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bagel
December 17th, 2004, 12:20 PM
well....then, tell me what i'm misunderstanding about it....:)


it's half-finished looking paint scheme? the lack of a design above the podium? if you don't agree with that, you might agree that this "seamless union of old charm and modern allure – a stunning architecture that blends the unique character of two different periods." is not the best mix out there. Comparable, say, with the old, restored Manila Hotel lobby with the new high-rise new section of it....it goes far much deeper than some colour scheme

I'm just saying that if you were also an ugly building too, then you would find your fellow ugly buildings... not ugly. Sometime somewhere, somebody once thought that these uglies were probably good ideas. That's why they got built. I don't know what the hell they were thinking or what the heck kind of drug they were taking, and I'm trying to figure out what it was because their designers surely understood these buildings to have some kind of inner beauty that I'm not seeing easily.

whyte
January 2nd, 2005, 12:38 PM
Let's talk. Cityland buildings automatically disqualified for unfair competition. to give Ortigas and Makati buildings a chance it will be only for building with or above 25 floors.

Here's my list
-Greenbelt Parkplace
-The Peak
-more to come, i just gotta think of em:D

the microwave towers on top of THE PEAK made it even more an eyesore

cropher
January 6th, 2005, 01:13 AM
The u/c Cityland twin towers in Buendia cor. SSH in Makati is almost like a clone of a similar twin building in Vito Cruz ( P.Ocampo st. ) Manila near the Rizal Sports Complex . Is it Cityland's too?

Dvorak
January 6th, 2005, 05:05 AM
yup that's Citiland Vito Cruz

whyte
January 7th, 2005, 03:37 AM
REGALIA PARK Towers
that condominium being built in the corner of EDSA and P Tuazon Cubao.

cropher
January 7th, 2005, 05:41 AM
What about the u/c or unfinished twin towers in Cubao ( near EDSA and the new Makro branch ), what is its name ? is that the Regalia Park Towers

Francis20
January 7th, 2005, 08:34 AM
i guess they are u/c. but slowly moving up.

pau_p1
January 7th, 2005, 08:51 AM
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid127/p91eef15ea5a307ac6f2e83b45dbda477/f7ed7df4.jpg

speaking of this?... this was taken around July.. now the u/c part is near its top-off... yeah.. I find this ugly too... plus.. the u/c building has a different exterior than its twin, its window panes are different from the other...

Francis20
January 7th, 2005, 08:59 AM
yes indeed paul.
it has some similarities with the Gateway residences of Robinson's.

ThisFire
January 8th, 2005, 03:58 AM
I'd say any building or skyscraper that isn't completed and abandoned is the ugly one

thomasian
January 8th, 2005, 08:30 AM
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid127/p91eef15ea5a307ac6f2e83b45dbda477/f7ed7df4.jpg

speaking of this?... this was taken around July.. now the u/c part is near its top-off... yeah.. I find this ugly too... plus.. the u/c building has a different exterior than its twin, its window panes are different from the other...

Yup, the windows of the u/c tower is different.

The u/c one has really larger windows, meaning less concrete and more glass on the façade, so I guess it won't be as ugly as the other twin that I find really ugly.

whyte
January 9th, 2005, 12:43 PM
speaking of U/C buildings....
what is the future of those twin towers beside megamall.
BSA TOWERS?

cropher
January 9th, 2005, 01:57 PM
Yah Pau , exactly that is the one im referring to .

rmn
January 13th, 2005, 08:57 AM
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid127/p91eef15ea5a307ac6f2e83b45dbda477/f7ed7df4.jpg

speaking of this?... this was taken around July.. now the u/c part is near its top-off... yeah.. I find this ugly too... plus.. the u/c building has a different exterior than its twin, its window panes are different from the other...

ABC-5 will be moving their news and public affairs department to this building from their Novaliches complex. Story has it that Tony Boy Cojuanco (sp?) has been eyeing Makati but couldn't find a place with a large enough parking space. Then again, Regalia doesn't have any space either.

BTW, Regalia Park was originaly a project of Kuok Philipppine Properties until a new consortium took over.

***

The Regalia Park Towers (http://www.regaliagroup.com.ph/). A mixed-use commercial-residential condominium project consisting of two 32-storey towers, for parking, commercial units, and residential areas. The Regalia Park is right at the gateway of the Cubao Central Business District. Just a walking distance from the Araneta Center, very accessible to EDSA and a stone's throw away from the MRT station which makes every business district in Metro manila a next door neighbor.

Description of Floor / Units

GROUND FLOOR will serve as the reception area for Tower B; will have three high-speed elevators servicing the office, residential and condotel units.

4TH to 8TH FLOORS will be floors for office units, delivered in bare condition.

15TH FLOOR will serve as amenities floor where the function rooms will be, and possibly some concessionaires like bars and restaurants. This floor will likewise be the formal reception area for condotel guests and will serve as the service floor housing the condotel departments like maintenance, housekeeping, condotel management and business center.

16TH TO 20TH FLOORS will be the floors for the condotel units mandatorily pooled for the first 10 years of the Condotel's Operation, renewable every 2 years thereafter, at the option of the Condotel unit owner and the Condotel Association. Condotel units will be delivered in uniformly finished condition and thereafter furnished by the Condotel Operator at the condotel unit buyer's/owner's expense. The Buyer of a condotel unit must submit to the rules of the Condotel Operator who reports to the Condotel Association made up of the condotel unit buyers/owners.

21ST TO 23RD FLOORS will be the floors for the condotel-type units, which may or may not be pooled with the condotel units. Like the condotel units, the condotel-type units will be delivered in uniformly finished condition. If the condotel-type unit buyer/owner wishes to pool the condotel-type unit with the condotel units and the Condotel Operator agrees and accepts the unit in the pool, the Condotel Operator will furnish the condotel-type unit at the buyer's/owner's expense. Once pooled with the condotel units, the condotel-type unit becomes a condotel unit and all the rules and benefits for the condotel units and the condetel unit buyer/owner shall apply. Unlike the condotel unit however, which is locked in for the first 10 years, the condotel-type unit will be locked in only for the first 5 years from the date it is first pooled with the condotel units, renewable thereafter every 2 years, at the condotel-type unit owner's and Condotel Operator's mutual consent.

24TH TO 28TH FLOORS will have the residential units that are cut in sizes that are similar to the condotel and condotel-type units. However, unlike the condotel units and the condotel-type units units, these residential units will be delivered in bare condition having studio, 1-BR and 2-BR possibilities.

29TH & 30TH FLOORS will have residential units that are similar to the units in the 9th to the 14th floors, delivered in bare condition, with up to 2-BR or 3-BR possibilities.

31ST & 32ND FLOORS will have the lower and upper residential penthouse units, delivered in bare condition with up to 3-BR or 4-BR possibilities.
Tower B - Configuration


FLOOR# : DESCRIPTION : CONDITION : # OF UNITS/FLR
Ground : Reception
4 to 8 : Office : Bare : 12
9 to14 : Residential : 2/3BR : Bare : 8
15 : Amenities/Utilities
16 to 20 : Condotel : Finished : 12
21 to 23 : Condotel-type : Finished : 12
24 to 28 Residential-Studio,1/2BR Bare 12
29 & 30 Residential-2/3 BR Bare 8
31 & 32 Residential-Penthouses Bare 4

normandb
January 13th, 2005, 11:47 AM
Well the winner in this category as the most ugly building in philippines is the Prudential Bank Building along Ayala Avenue in Makati City and I'm sure those who saw it will agree with me.

JudeD
January 13th, 2005, 03:40 PM
I actually kind of like the Prudential Bank building. It's an intriguing mix of neoclassical and modernist. It just needs a new paint job. It reminds me of the E.U.R. buildings put up by Mussolini in Rome, that were used as locations for the movie "Titus". The nearby old Madrigal building with all the fins and pebble wash looks much worse. Even a paint job won't be able to improve it.

XetraDAX
January 14th, 2005, 01:48 AM
Prudential Bank's Ayala building is good ah... it doesnt blend in lang. Pero its really nice!

bagel
January 14th, 2005, 07:09 AM
Pix!

normandb
January 15th, 2005, 03:29 AM
just open www.prudentialbank.com.ph (http://www.prudentialbank.com.ph) it has photo of it's building.

whyte
January 15th, 2005, 03:48 AM
oh yeah! it really is one of the "ugliest" along Ayala.
argh! those "windows"

normandb
January 15th, 2005, 04:08 AM
@XetraDAX, i think the building of prudential bank in ayala ave is good if it is located in Carriedo in Manila city because the building there are old and it will blend.

whyte
January 15th, 2005, 04:14 AM
http://www.prudentialbank.com.ph/images/hologo.jpg

whyte
January 15th, 2005, 04:17 AM
even metrobanks main office? along buendia is sort of ugly but luckily its on the "old"isde of buendia

also PLANTERS BANK along buendia is so ugly. its a BRICK SKYSCRAPER

renell
January 15th, 2005, 04:53 AM
well it's old. hmm... yeah maybe recladding would do it good. it's not related to any history is it?

normandb
January 15th, 2005, 04:55 AM
yes it's not related but the look of the building looks like history he he he.

whyte
June 29th, 2005, 07:18 PM
any "skyscraper" of BRICK "finish" is UGLY :lol:

mysaong03
June 29th, 2005, 07:53 PM
i found another one, the Philtrust Bank's HQ in UN Avenue, it badly needs a paint job

:)

renell
June 30th, 2005, 07:47 AM
any "skyscraper" of BRICK "finish" is UGLY :lol:

that's not really possible is it? maybe 12-15 flooors of brick is too mcuh .

amras
October 27th, 2005, 10:59 PM
bump

marites4
October 27th, 2005, 11:28 PM
I agree here with most of the post about Makati.Binay sucks! enough of this tyrant. Where are all the moneys he's collecting from all the big businesses in Makati and prop. taxes of those multimillion enclaves. To his fat pocket. He's not doing anything to improve Makati dwellers, he just pacifies them with free movies and free tshirts. uughh.He can't even fix Makati side of Pasig river.

Æsahættr
October 27th, 2005, 11:38 PM
Makati, Pasig and Mandaluyong.

LhexiMont
October 28th, 2005, 02:52 AM
For me its Muntinlupa City , the gateway to the south . With numerous developments

Filinvest Alabang
Ayala Alabang / Madrigal Business Park
Brittany Bay -Sucat

ThisFire
October 28th, 2005, 03:48 AM
Makati is obvious, but I have to choose three: Makati, Pasig and Mandaluyong because these three are fast becoming one big hub of a mega-center/business area. I vote for QC as well but I just consider it to be a city of its own. All of this makes me think of the many qualities of each Metro Manila city like Marikina's cleanliness, Manila's historic value.

Sinjin P.
October 28th, 2005, 10:22 AM
I have lived in Muntinlupa and Paranaque and I have appreciated the beauty of MUNTINLUPA...

3cr
October 28th, 2005, 11:45 AM
Came across this article posted by Asraz about Ayala's Masterplan for Fort Bonifacio Global City. If things go as planned, FBGC will become the kind of Metropolis it is destined to be. I am looking forward to seeing FBGC develop into it's own vibrant life-style community and become an alternative place for business, commerce, cuisine, culture, education, and residence. Already in the plans are a convention center and a coliseum and there are more projects to come. Needless to say FBGC gets my vote. :)

Pleasantly pedestrian
First posted 09:48pm (Mla time) Aug 20, 2005
By Linda Bolido
Inquirer News Service

TO MANY Filipinos, Ayala has become almost synonymous with class—in capital letters.

So why is Jim Ayala, the 43-year-old president of Ayala Land Inc. (ALI), talking about “pedestrianizing” not just the Makati commercial center (MCC) but even the Bonifacio Global City at The Fort in Taguig, Metro Manila?
But then pedestrianizing for ALI is a far cry from slumming. What Ayala (despite his family name he is not related to ALI’s owners) is talking about is simply making it easier and more pleasant for people who live, work, and visit the two sites to go on walkabouts—whether for shopping, dining or entertainment.
The idea is not only some kind of public service. It actually makes good business sense, especially if you are trying to draw people who really do not have a compelling reason to go to the MCC or the Fort, like non-residents or non-employees.

“The nice thing is, since we did the bridgeways, you can go almost from the Makati Medical Center (MMC) all the way to the MRT (Metro Rail Transit) station on Edsa,” points out Miriam Katigbak, executive vice president and head, Commercial Centers Group. She adds the plan for the network of covered overpasses, underpasses and street-level pedestrian pathways has been with the company since 1990.

Big difference

Though people were really able to walk from the MRT station to MMC starting only last year, Ayala says, “It has really made a very big difference. Where before you have a lot of traffic on the ground floors (of malls), you now have a lot more traffic on the upper levels so all of our merchants had to adjust. It also eased our parking. (Parking demand) went down a lot because people now walk, which is good.”

So good that it has made the idea worth replicating elsewhere.

“We want to take that to a whole new level at Fort Bonifacio,” says Ayala, “because it will be a mix of uses (unlike Makati where things are separate-offices, commercial establishments, etc.). We want to make it a more integrated, mix-use, pedestrian-oriented place.”
He says the Fort is geared towards a mix market. “It is a large area, too big to be totally high end.”
He adds, “The problem when you have a setup where you only have business offices sa gabi patay…You want something that is alive all the time, that is very safe and very pedestrian-friendly.” What ALI plans for the Global City is a “retail promenade with landscaping.”

Not just buildings

Both Ayala and Katigbak stress that ALI always makes its plans as comprehensive as possible, anticipating every possible use and service and facilities that may be required. “There is so much more to real estate (development) than just putting up building,” Katigbak points out.

Ayala adds time frame should be at least 20 years since “we’re studying this… to make the project sustainable. We all exist in a broader community. We cannot ignore, in fact, we have an obligation to, use resources sustainably.”

If he sounds like an environmentalist, that is because Ayala is a member of the board of the World Wildlife Fund in the Philippines. He finds no conflict between his pro-environment sentiments and ALI’s goals, saying the company has always been environment conscious.

Given the current political upheaval, is ALI being overly optimistic?

Ayala, who worked with a multi-national company and was based overseas for several years, shares the company’s faith in the country and its people. He says businesses can do well “if they do things right, if they understand the market. I don’t think the Philippines is so far gone… that the whole place is corrupt (but) the private sector has to show leadership.” It is a matter of knowing where to focus energy, identifying growth areas despite circumstances.

The company’s faith in the country seems well-placed. Newspapers report that in the second quarter of the year ending in June, ALI’s net profit rose by 4.4 percent—P640 million from P613 million for the same period last year. The increase was attributed primarily to sustained rise in mall rentals and property sales despite political and economic uncertainties.

Ayala attributes the company’s robust “health” to integrity and commitment, as well as innovativeness. “Sigurado ka sa Ayala,” he says.

_zner_
October 28th, 2005, 11:52 AM
1. QC

2. Makati

3. Pasig

4. Manila --- because this city is so chaotic, polluted and very third world. I pity the historical sites for being on that city. just my opinion. :)

rustyboi
October 28th, 2005, 04:02 PM
MUNTINLUPA. Alabang! :okay:

marites4
October 28th, 2005, 05:55 PM
yeah I believe in Ayala land. They know how to plan and it always turns out classy and unique with all their projects, so much that I buy their stocks . he he

tigidig14
October 28th, 2005, 06:12 PM
ideal Manila for me is Alot of Marites lurking around, very minute tigs is around

wecky
October 28th, 2005, 09:12 PM
skyscrapers and business: I go for Makati, Pasig (bec of Ortigas), Mandaluyong, Quezon and Manila

history: Manila top it all

cleanliness: Marikina

traffic: -nil-

malls: Makati, Mandaluyong, Quezon

lifestyle: Makati-Ayala and Pasig-Ortigas

tigidig14
October 28th, 2005, 11:07 PM
^we all be shown in the rich and famous, what happened to that show btw, it has the new version now, probably the one that shows in vh1: the faboulous lifestyle,

wornout
October 29th, 2005, 06:02 AM
Quezon City for me. This place is very much a garden city with it's large avenues, planned enclaves, well maintained parks and gardens, the best universities and schools, very good business environment, EASTWOOD CITY, and many more. I think no other city beats {like} Quezon City. It's large but it's good that it is. hehehe.

OtAkAw
October 29th, 2005, 10:22 AM
I would have to say Makati minus the scumbag that rules it.

Aragon
October 29th, 2005, 12:16 PM
QC....very spacious....lot's of hidden treasures....lot's of surprises....like new manila, roxas district, banawe, etc

qt_bi
October 29th, 2005, 05:14 PM
yeah i guess QC is a complete city on its own, like essentially all major components of a city are in QC. The north northeastern part of the city is reallly something.Verdant Rolling hills in a premiere urban city are rare, very suburban. The downtown is Cubao, Diliman-the civic n institution center. North and East triangles, the new CBD.

ThisFire
October 29th, 2005, 07:56 PM
I would have to say Makati minus the scumbag that rules it.


Hahahhaah funny but....TRUE

manileño
November 26th, 2005, 09:20 AM
just a random question.

why do we love to include City in all our cities? Do we have to constantly remind ourselves that they are cities already and not towns no more? Why? What's the pleasure with adding "City" to San Jose del Monte or Cagayan de Oro?


I just find it weird.


I don't mind people calling the city of Cebu as "Cebu City" and city of Quezon in Metro Manila as "Quezon City". Because i know they're doing that in order to distinguish them from the provinces with the same name.

Cebu City as different from Cebu Province.
Quezon City as different from Quezon
Davao City and Davao province
Zamboanga City and Zamboanga province
Batangas City and Batangas province
Cavite City and Cavite province
Iloilo City and Iloilo province
New York City and New York State
Kansas City and Kansas State
Quebec City and Quebec Province
Mexico City and Republic of Mexico


But, Legazpi City? Cagayan de Oro City? Parañaque City? Baguio City? General Santos City? Antipolo City? Pasay City? Makati City? Bacolod City? Olongapo City? Angeles City? Naga City? San Jose del Monte City? ETC CITY?

Where are your provinces?!?

Why call it Makati City when there isn't any need to distinguish it from any other province or town? it's its own name??

it's like calling LA, Los Angeles City and Chicago, Chicago City and Paris, Paris City, and Tokyo, Tokyo City and London, London City? etc etc etc city?
There is no Los Angeles City, Los Angeles State! :)

Champagnesupernova
November 26th, 2005, 09:29 AM
Maybe because they were separated cities before they joined Metro Manila?

cyrusal
November 26th, 2005, 09:32 AM
i have no idea.. but a city named from its province name seems to be famous.

manileño
November 26th, 2005, 09:34 AM
Maybe because they were separated cities before they joined Metro Manila?

huh? it's not just Metro Manila, all cities in the Philippines just want to be called with "City" like some guy who likes to be always called a Mr.

Hahaha

And even with Metro Manila cities. I dont think they call the 'cities' or boroughs in NYC as Brooklyn City, Queen City, Bronx City, Staten Island City, Manhattan City?

and yea, Brooklyn was a separate city before!! :)

tigidig14
November 26th, 2005, 09:35 AM
isnt it certain population w/in a vicinity or zone when number's met contitutes to become a city :dunno:

manileño
November 26th, 2005, 09:36 AM
i have no idea.. but a city named from its province name seems to be famous.

thats just the right thing to do.. like i said the Big Apple was called New York CITY because there is a New York State.

Cebu City and the rest are fine.

But for Christs sake, where's Antipolo City? in Antipolo province? heheh

manileño
November 26th, 2005, 09:39 AM
isnt it certain population w/in a vicinity or zone when number's met contitutes to become a city :dunno:



maybe.. i'm sure Osaka, Melbourne, San Francisco, Honolulu, Dublin, and Boston were small towns as well but they are already big cities now.

Why dont they call them Osaka City, Melbourne City, San Francisco City, Honolulu City, Dublin City and Boston City? :)

tigidig14
November 26th, 2005, 09:45 AM
^foreigner likewise doesnt know that Manila is called Manila city. Maybe within their zonal they have their own city such as Chicago, we have calumet city, rockport city, value city<-- :lol: and so on and so forth

manileño
November 26th, 2005, 09:49 AM
i notice it's a Filipino sickness.. try checking the other cities/countries forums and they don't call their cities with City, Ciudad, Ville, Stadt, etc... etc. except for some cases when it's suppose to distinguish it from another entity within their territory.


There's no Kuala Lumpur City.
There's no Penang City.
There's no Tijuana City/Ciudad Tijuana.
There's no Toronto City.
There's no Berlin Stadt or Frankfurt stadt.
There's no Nagoya City.
There's no Hong Kong City.
There's no Milan City/Citta di Milano

manileño
November 26th, 2005, 09:55 AM
^foreigner likewise doesnt know that Manila is called Manila city. Maybe within their zonal they have their own city such as Chicago, we have calumet city, rockport city, value city<-- :lol: and so on and so forth


Huh? Of course I MYSELF DONT CALL MANILA as MANILA CITY?

I never called Chicago as Chicago City?
I never called Vancouver as Vancouver City?

But yea, some places in the states have "City" added to their names. But because they are either identical to a state or because they are common names.

Salt Lake City as different from just Salt (salty) Lake.
Rockport City, as different from Rockport (whats that a brand? new gadget?)
Value City, as different from Value (Value what?)
Carson City as different from Carson (either town or the person).
Jersey City as different from Jersey (clothing) or New Jersey state.
Atlantic City as different from Atlantic (ocean).
gets mo?

But Detroit, Seattle, Miami, Minneapolis, the biggest cities are never called CITY.

manileño
November 26th, 2005, 10:05 AM
They dont put it in writing addresses even..

6818 Wilshire Avenue, Los Angeles City, CA
63 Earl's Court Road, London City, United Kingdom
105 Adelaide Street, Brisbane City, Australia
84 Prince Albert Drive, Perth City, Australia
1034 Plymouth Road, Halifax City, NS Canada
356 Gandhi Avenue, Bangalore City, India

?!!?!??!!?!

and then

Block 4 Lot 7 Sampaguita Street Don Mariano Subdivision, Santa Cruz, San Jose del Monte City, Philippines!

WTF?!! hahahaha

slerz
November 26th, 2005, 10:05 AM
You forgot Bacolod City....

For me, I don't want the city of Cebu to be called "Cebu City"... I want want my city to be called just Cebu but as they say, there is Cebu province so nothing I can do about that....

manileño
November 26th, 2005, 10:11 AM
You forgot Bacolod City....

For me, I don't want the city of Cebu to be called "Cebu City"... I want want my city to be called just Cebu but as they say, there is Cebu province so nothing I can do about that....


yea. like NYC had no choice but to be called with a C.


our system just sucks.. we might even have the LONGEST WRITTEN ADDRESS in the WORLD. :)

manileño
November 26th, 2005, 10:19 AM
and maybe we're the only country that doesn't use any ZIP CODE system!!

who amongst us use these zip codes?

6100 Bacolod City
6200 Dumaguete City
4500 Legaspi City
4217 Lipa City
8000 Davao City
2900 Laoag
9000 Cagayan De Oro
2600 Baguio City
etc???

This whole address:
Block 4 Lot 7 Sampaguita Street Don Mariano Subdivision, Santa Cruz, San Jose del Monte City, Philippines!
CAN BE SHORTENED/SIMPLIFIED FOR PRACTICAL USE
BY JUST USING ZIP CODE:

3023 San Jose Del Monte City

and REMOVING THE TITLE CITY!!

therefore:

47 Sampaguita Street, San Jose del Monte, Philippines 3023

or

47 Sampaguita Street, San Jose del Monte, Bulacan 3023 Philippines



Where's the common sense, PEOPLE IN THE GOVERNMENT?

slerz
November 26th, 2005, 10:25 AM
and maybe we're the only country that doesn't use any ZIP CODE system!!

who amongst us use these zip codes?

6100 Bacolod City
6200 Dumaguete City
4500 Legaspi City
4217 Lipa City
8000 Davao City
2900 Laoag
9000 Cagayan De Oro
2600 Baguio City
etc???

This whole address:
Block 4 Lot 7 Sampaguita Street Don Mariano Subdivision, Santa Cruz, San Jose del Monte City, Philippines!
CAN BE SHORTENED/SIMPLIFIED FOR PRACTICAL USE
BY JUST USING ZIP CODE:

3023 San Jose Del Monte City

and REMOVING THE TITLE CITY!!

therefore:

47 Sampaguita Street, San Jose del Monte, Philippines 3023

or

47 Sampaguita Street, San Jose del Monte, Bulacan 3023 Philippines



Where's the common sense, PEOPLE IN THE GOVERNMENT?

We use zipcode here in Cebu...

My address goes like this

#*** F Jaca St.,
Pob. Pardo, Cebu City
6000 Philippines

manileño
November 26th, 2005, 10:32 AM
very good! hehehe. but i know (based on observation in the airports---of maletas and balikbayan boxes, there are no zip codes, and there written BLOCK, LOT, STREET, SUBDIVISION, BARANGAY/BARRIO/POOK/SITIO, CITY

Kung pwedeng lagyan pa ng "..... Province, White Gate Blue Door, Don't forget to knock, Philippines".


CITY just irritates me.

renell
November 26th, 2005, 10:42 AM
it's a pride thing. The word city sounds big and more important and for mayors and the local government.

_zner_
November 26th, 2005, 12:37 PM
maybe its civilized!

ishtefh_03
November 26th, 2005, 12:59 PM
yeah... when one is named with a city, it can be said that it is civilized already like our place in pampanga... san fernando became a city when the Malls are built like sm and robinsons... but the name is not san fernando city but "city of san fernando", they make it like that so that it will not be the same as san fernando city in la union...

normandb
November 26th, 2005, 01:22 PM
yea. like NYC had no choice but to be called with a C.


our system just sucks.. we might even have the LONGEST WRITTEN ADDRESS in the WORLD. :)

Thats so true. I always have problem in the address field when filling-up some forms most of the time because of the limited allocated space. Especially if the form has squares and you need to put the characters inside the squares.

You need to put the word Blk. and Lot numbers then the street names and Village/Subdivision name then the Baranggay, then the city/municipality, then the province, then the country then the zip code.

Sinjin P.
November 26th, 2005, 01:49 PM
Actually, A certain town would be called a city only if it has at least P100 million annual income.

Why does the Philippines have many cities?
---It's because before the year 2004, the income requirement was only at P15 million annually so as you see, that's why many towns were declared cities in the 90's and 2000's. This changed in 2004 where the income requirement was raised to P100 million.

---Good thing it was changed. If not, all towns could have been cities already now. :)

drfeelgood17
November 26th, 2005, 05:06 PM
Actually, A certain town would be called a city only if it has at least P100 million annual income.

Why does the Philippines have many cities?
---It's because before the year 2004, the income requirement was only at P15 million annually so as you see, that's why many towns were declared cities in the 90's and 2000's. This changed in 2004 where the income requirement was raised to P100 million.

---Good thing it was changed. If not, all towns could have been cities already now. :)

Thanks for the info - I too have been curious as to why there are so many "cities" in the RP these days. But what exactly are their advantages over municipalities, apart from having the privilege of putting the word city after their name? My second question is: I've noticed that towns are classed 1st, 2nd, etc - but what are the criteria for classifying them as such ? Is it based on income, or demographics?

drfeelgood17
November 26th, 2005, 05:09 PM
Why call it Makati City when there isn't any need to distinguish it from any other province or town? it's its own name??

it's like calling LA, Los Angeles City and Chicago, Chicago City and Paris, Paris City, and Tokyo, Tokyo City and London, London City? etc etc etc city?
There is no Los Angeles City, Los Angeles State! :)[/QUOTE]

I kinda agree with you here :) it has a certain naive aspect to it - or as we say in Bicol - nali :)

bustero
November 26th, 2005, 05:22 PM
Your question seems to pose two ideas. The semantics of why places prefer to be called cities and why so many places "want" to be cities.

The second one is easier to answer as in order to call oneself a city , you actually have to go to congress and get a law passed chartering the city. Certain requirements as posted above are looked at. There are some very important reasons a city wants to remain as such. These include the fact that cities are not part of a province administration wise, how their IRA's are counted, the different legislation specially for money raising that a city but not a municipality can pass, so on and so forth.

The higher status of the city is probably why places want the label of a city.

marites4
November 26th, 2005, 05:26 PM
most importantly your budget allocation fr national coffers increase once you're officially a city.

drfeelgood17
November 26th, 2005, 06:02 PM
One result of this Philippine obsession with cities is (Metro) Manila's status as a world city suffers somewhat...If you search for such trivia as the world's top ten biggest cities, in many encyclopedias and trivia books Manila does not even feature in the Top 10 (or sometimes 20). Why? Because, officially of course, Metro Manila is a classed as a region containing dozens of cities, with Manila proper being just one of them. Now because Manila proper's population is only around 1.5m, this put it far below many other world cities. As a result, some articles perpetuate the nonsense that Quezon City is a separate city, and also the Philippines's largest!! But this is clearly nonsense, because, in that case, Manhattan should be called a city in its own right and listed separetly from Brooklyn, Queens etc....Likewise, London should be split into the historic cities of Westminster, City of London etc...

A second result of this is that provincial cities such as Cebu are often ranked AFTER Metro Manila's component cities because they are also split into different cities (Cebu, Mandaue, Talisay etc...)

Thankfully, some articles, such as Wikipedia's, have chosen to ignore this Philippine bizarrie and put Manila in its rightful place:

Rank City Population Country Continent
1 Shanghai 12,762,953 China Asia
2 Mumbai (Bombay) 12,692,717 India Asia
3 Karachi 11,627,379 Pakistan Asia
4 New Delhi 10,928,270 India Asia
5 Manila 10,443,877 Philippines Asia
6 Moscow 10,381,288 Russia Europe
7 Seoul 10,349,291 South Korea Asia
8 São Paulo 10,021,437 Brazil South America
9 Istanbul 9,797,536 Turkey Asia and Europe
10 Lagos 8,789,133 Nigeria Africa
11 Mexico City 8,657,045 Mexico North America
12 Jakarta 8,540,306 Indonesia Asia
13 Lima 8,380,300 Peru South America
14 Tokyo 8,336,611 Japan Asia
15 New York City 8,108,040 United States North America
16 Kinshasa 7,787,832 D.R. Congo Africa
17 Cairo 7,734,602 Egypt Africa
18 Beijing (Peking) 7,490,618 China Asia
19 Chennai (Madras) 7,450,618 India Asia
20 London 7,421,228 United Kingdom Europe
21 Tehran 7,157,993 Iran Asia
22 Bogotá 7,102,602 Colombia South America
23 Dhaka 6,488,623 Bangladesh Asia
24 Lahore 6,310,888 Pakistan Asia
25 Rio de Janeiro 6,023,742 Brazil South America
26 Bangkok 5,694,475 Thailand Asia
27 Baghdad 5,672,516 Iraq Asia
28 Bangalore 4,931,603 India Asia
29 Santiago 4,837,248 Chile South America
30 Saint Petersburg 4,661,219 Russia Europe


However, that is not the end of the story! In another Wikipedia article, this time under the criteria of " metropolitan area" Manila is placed at a lowly 19th. Why? 1) judging from the overinflated population of some cities, such as Tokyo, some writers are obviously cheating by including other cities (and even regions!) that are very far from the main ones and should be considered separate 2) because the name Metro Manila creates confusion to foreigners who mistakenly believe that MM's metro area stop abruptly at Alabang and Caloocan. In other words, if NYC can include cities up to 200 miles away, then in that case maybe Manila's metro area should stretch all the way from Dagupan in the north to Batangas and Lucena cities in the south - hell, why not?! Using this criteria, Manila could almost match Tokyo's absurd 35m!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_metropolitan_areas_by_population

bagel
November 26th, 2005, 07:19 PM
i notice it's a Filipino sickness.. try checking the other cities/countries forums and they don't call their cities with City, Ciudad, Ville, Stadt, etc... etc. except for some cases when it's suppose to distinguish it from another entity within their territory.


I don't think it is a sickness. If you really look into it, the official administrative names of the cities you mention outside of the Philippines actually do include "city" but in common parlance is not used.

City of Los Angeles
City of San Francisco
City of Chicago
New York City

Manila is actually really the City of Manila. But in common parlance, it's just called Manila, just like in common parlance, Makati City is called just plain Makati.

Even smaller municipalities have administrative names that include their official population designation-- my parents live in the Township of Edison, there is the Borough of Highland Park.

So I think what you accuse Philippine cities of having is in actuality official designations that most cities really do have.

manileño
November 26th, 2005, 07:27 PM
Exactly. In common parlance, they're just called by their names, without any tag.

But it's not just that. They may be 'officiallly' designated in writing as you said. BUT They are never written in Addresses both Official and Residential/Commercial. :)

manileño
November 26th, 2005, 07:33 PM
One result of this Philippine obsession with cities is (Metro) Manila's status as a world city suffers somewhat...If you search for such trivia as the world's top ten biggest cities, in many encyclopedias and trivia books Manila does not even feature in the Top 10 (or sometimes 20). Why? Because, officially of course, Metro Manila is a classed as a region containing dozens of cities, with Manila proper being just one of them. Now because Manila proper's population is only around 1.5m, this put it far below many other world cities. As a result, some articles perpetuate the nonsense that Quezon City is a separate city, and also the Philippines's largest!! But this is clearly nonsense, because, in that case, Manhattan should be called a city in its own right and listed separetly from Brooklyn, Queens etc....Likewise, London should be split into the historic cities of Westminster, City of London etc...

A second result of this is that provincial cities such as Cebu are often ranked AFTER Metro Manila's component cities because they are also split into different cities (Cebu, Mandaue, Talisay etc...)

Thankfully, some articles, such as Wikipedia's, have chosen to ignore this Philippine bizarrie and put Manila in its rightful place:

Rank City Population Country Continent
1 Shanghai 12,762,953 China Asia
2 Mumbai (Bombay) 12,692,717 India Asia
3 Karachi 11,627,379 Pakistan Asia
4 New Delhi 10,928,270 India Asia
5 Manila 10,443,877 Philippines Asia
6 Moscow 10,381,288 Russia Europe
7 Seoul 10,349,291 South Korea Asia
8 São Paulo 10,021,437 Brazil South America
9 Istanbul 9,797,536 Turkey Asia and Europe
10 Lagos 8,789,133 Nigeria Africa
11 Mexico City 8,657,045 Mexico North America
12 Jakarta 8,540,306 Indonesia Asia
13 Lima 8,380,300 Peru South America
14 Tokyo 8,336,611 Japan Asia
15 New York City 8,108,040 United States North America
16 Kinshasa 7,787,832 D.R. Congo Africa
17 Cairo 7,734,602 Egypt Africa
18 Beijing (Peking) 7,490,618 China Asia
19 Chennai (Madras) 7,450,618 India Asia
20 London 7,421,228 United Kingdom Europe
21 Tehran 7,157,993 Iran Asia
22 Bogotá 7,102,602 Colombia South America
23 Dhaka 6,488,623 Bangladesh Asia
24 Lahore 6,310,888 Pakistan Asia
25 Rio de Janeiro 6,023,742 Brazil South America
26 Bangkok 5,694,475 Thailand Asia
27 Baghdad 5,672,516 Iraq Asia
28 Bangalore 4,931,603 India Asia
29 Santiago 4,837,248 Chile South America
30 Saint Petersburg 4,661,219 Russia Europe


However, that is not the end of the story! In another Wikipedia article, this time under the criteria of " metropolitan area" Manila is placed at a lowly 19th. Why? 1) judging from the overinflated population of some cities, such as Tokyo, some writers are obviously cheating by including other cities (and even regions!) that are very far from the main ones and should be considered separate 2) because the name Metro Manila creates confusion to foreigners who mistakenly believe that MM's metro area stop abruptly at Alabang and Caloocan. In other words, if NYC can include cities up to 200 miles away, then in that case maybe Manila's metro area should stretch all the way from Dagupan in the north to Batangas and Lucena cities in the south - hell, why not?! Using this criteria, Manila could almost match Tokyo's absurd 35m!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_metropolitan_areas_by_population


my thoughts exactly.

And the prospective tourist to the Philippines might ask, how far is "Makati City" from Manila? Do i have to take a plane from Cebu City going to Mandaue City? :)

manileño
November 26th, 2005, 07:52 PM
it's a pride thing. The word city sounds big and more important and for mayors and the local government.


for me though, it wouldn't sound that positive/big. When i hear the word "City"--and in english!--it's like i can only think about New York, and how some towns are becoming so embracing of Manhattanisation ('skyscrappization').

Sure, give the distinction and economic benefits of 'cityhood' to Baguio, Vigan, Venice, Acapulco, Bordeaux, etc but we don't have to modify their names like some marketing scheme. These cities don't need to be called City.
And they need not be turned into a Manhattan. :)


Imagine an old Spanish heritage city like Vigan being repackaged to this clickish, english Vigan CITY? Doesn't sound right at all.

And Venice is just called Venezia in Italian.. they even refer to it as a Comune still (a municipality) eventhough it's already a city. http://www.comune.venezia.it/

manileño
November 26th, 2005, 07:58 PM
i need not be reminded that Manila is a city, therefore i'll never refer to it as Manila City.

I need not be reminded that San Jose del Monte is already a ciudad, it's just a waste of space and besides, if they're gonna do that---why not translate the whole thing in order to suit the title of 'City'.

Call it 'City of St. Joseph of the Mountain' or 'St. Joseph City' instead. :)

bagel
November 26th, 2005, 08:16 PM
I think this is not a problem at all. They're only telling the truth. The Local Government Code is a good thing and saying that these are really administrative units is not confusing to the layperson. Truth is that they are cities. And if you call it Mandaue or Mandaue City, that's your prerogative. I certainly don't call Makati City Makati City. I call it Makati. But it is a city so let it be called a city. I think you're complaining about trivialities that can be solved by just looking at a map.

Mandaue is a city. Not as bad as calling a part of New York City Long Island City when in all actuality, LIC is not a city at all but a constituent community of New York City.

Lili
November 26th, 2005, 11:12 PM
Such trifles. (sniff)

But there is actually a certain beauty to hearing a beauty contestant proclaim. "I am from the beautiful city of QUEZON CITY!!!" har har...

bulakenyo
November 27th, 2005, 12:13 AM
^^ I have a somewhat related joke. Natawa talaga ako dito.

The contestant, presenting herself, talks into the mic
and says, "Hi! I'm Cristine Reyes from Bagiuo...," and
then she turns around, walks a little, goes back then
yells at the top of her lungs and shouts:
"CITYYYYYYYY!!!!"

hahahahaahh!! :rofl:

Animo
November 27th, 2005, 12:50 AM
^^ I have a somewhat related joke. Natawa talaga ako dito.

The contestant, presenting herself, talks into the mic
and says, "Hi! I'm Cristine Reyes from Bagiuo...," and
then she turns around, walks a little, goes back then
yells at the top of her lungs and shouts:
"CITYYYYYYYY!!!!"

hahahahaahh!! :rofl:

:eek2: So true... :hahaha:

Christerdom
November 27th, 2005, 02:14 AM
The second one is easier to answer as in order to call oneself a city , you actually have to go to congress and get a law passed chartering the city. Certain requirements as posted above are looked at. There are some very important reasons a city wants to remain as such. These include the fact that cities are not part of a province administration wise, how their IRA's are counted, the different legislation specially for money raising that a city but not a municipality can pass, so on and so forth.

The higher status of the city is probably why places want the label of a city.


infact, converting a municipality to city requires a 'Plebiscite' not just the congress to do it. so in effect, this is being subjected to the inhabitants approval. why is that so, because its a big move for a 'muni to city' since the IRA (or city budget) will no longer come from the national government (or atleast the way i know it). meaning, the city can stand-up on its own without the central government help in budgetary funding.

congress can change the city/municipality name though.

but, i agree to shorten the name esp for addresses, gosh, its soo messy when creating a Client information system, takes so many diskspace if the system is for the Philippines. :)

tigidig14
November 27th, 2005, 02:52 AM
Such trifles. (sniff)

But there is actually a certain beauty to hearing a beauty contestant proclaim. "I am from the beautiful city of QUEZON CITY!!!" har har...


i thought ur from sampaloc, so do u live in galas which is the far end of g.tuazon

drfeelgood17
November 27th, 2005, 03:56 AM
Such trifles. (sniff)

But there is actually a certain beauty to hearing a beauty contestant proclaim. "I am from the beautiful city of QUEZON CITY!!!" har har...

Sorry Lili, I was feeling extra nerdy today - won't do it again - promise! :cool:

manileño
November 27th, 2005, 05:21 AM
^^ I have a somewhat related joke. Natawa talaga ako dito.

The contestant, presenting herself, talks into the mic
and says, "Hi! I'm Cristine Reyes from Bagiuo...," and
then she turns around, walks a little, goes back then
yells at the top of her lungs and shouts:
"CITYYYYYYYY!!!!"

hahahahaahh!! :rofl:



AHAHAHAHAHAHA NAKNANGTETENG

amigo32
November 27th, 2005, 11:13 AM
Oh! You forgot my favorite city.

It's SM CITY!


Hehehehe.

Lili
November 27th, 2005, 04:03 PM
i thought ur from sampaloc, so do u live in galas which is the far end of g.tuazon

Oh if you've read my personal geographic history before, you'll find out I'm a true daughter of Metro Manila-- born in Sampaloc (UST Hospital), grew up there as a kid, moved to Marikina as a pre-teen, moved to Quezon City as a teen, studied in UP Dil., worked in Makati and Pasig/Mandaluyong, then moved to NY. My father is Visayan/Waray (some Spanish roots) while my Mom is true blue Sampaloquena with roots from Bulacan.

Sorry Lili, I was feeling extra nerdy today - won't do it again - promise! :cool:

Hey, don't let me stop you. Nerds are cool.

AHAHAHAHAHAHA NAKNANGTETENG

Oh Manileno, you just smashed my image of you as a true Manila sophisticate with that comment. Hahaha.

pau_p1
November 27th, 2005, 04:36 PM
i notice it's a Filipino sickness.. try checking the other cities/countries forums and they don't call their cities with City, Ciudad, Ville, Stadt, etc... etc. except for some cases when it's suppose to distinguish it from another entity within their territory.


There's no Kuala Lumpur City.
There's no Penang City.
There's no Tijuana City/Ciudad Tijuana.
There's no Toronto City.
There's no Berlin Stadt or Frankfurt stadt.
There's no Nagoya City.
There's no Hong Kong City.
There's no Milan City/Citta di Milano

and so, what's the problem with having City connected to our cities?... is this coming out from a colonial mentality that we should be like what other countries do?...

I don't find it an issue to connect city in a city name...

since Manila is the only city in the country that doesn't call itself Manila City is because it is our capital... as most capital cities of the world... and it is Manila which is the most recognized city of our country to other countries.... I believe our three major cities are Manila, Cebu City and Davao City...

also, the whole country uses ZIP Codes.. and I guess that you should know yours...

pau_p1
November 27th, 2005, 04:43 PM
i need not be reminded that Manila is a city, therefore i'll never refer to it as Manila City.

I need not be reminded that San Jose del Monte is already a ciudad, it's just a waste of space and besides, if they're gonna do that---why not translate the whole thing in order to suit the title of 'City'.

Call it 'City of St. Joseph of the Mountain' or 'St. Joseph City' instead. :)

uhmmm.. have you thought of what could have happened if they translated Bangkok to Freedom City, or Nagoya, Osaka, Tokyo or Kuala Lumpur to English as well?

anyways.. I think (if I'm not mistaken), Vigan is a city already... and it is not called Vigan City...

manileño
November 27th, 2005, 04:55 PM
uhmmm.. have you thought of what could have happened if they translated Bangkok to Freedom City, or Nagoya, Osaka, Tokyo or Kuala Lumpur to English as well?

anyways.. I think (if I'm not mistaken), Vigan is a city already... and it is not called Vigan City...


exactly, we don't want to do that right? Fortunately, they dont call their cities Bangkok City, Nagoya City, Osaka City, Tokyo City, Kuala Lumpur City, etc.

They call it Vigan City now...

What's Thai, Japanese, Malaysian word for 'city'? I'm saying Vigan City stinks not just because they had to add the title, but also because Vigan is native word and City is ENGLISH word (doesn't match).

Ciudad ti Vigan is Ilocano for Vigan City.
Ciudad de San Jose del Monte is Spanish for St. Joseph of the Mountain City.
Ciudad de Cagayan de Oro in English would be Golden Cagayan City.

Let's start calling CDO, Golden Cagayan City so that the addition CITY (tho really ugly to hear) may finally be justified.

otherwise, Cagayan de Oro has no business with 'city'. :) You dont get it no?
Just ignore it :)

manileño
November 27th, 2005, 05:00 PM
Oh Manileno, you just smashed my image of you as a true Manila sophisticate with that comment. Hahaha.


LOL and Tagalog sophisticate is an oxymoron?? :)

manileño
November 27th, 2005, 05:08 PM
and so, what's the problem with having City connected to our cities?... is this coming out from a colonial mentality that we should be like what other countries do?...

I don't find it an issue to connect city in a city name...



It's just common sense and practicality. It's not colonial mentality. It's actually even more of a colonial mentality when we always include the ENGLISH WORD "CITY" to all our mga lungsod. :)

you don't see anything wrong with Cauayan City, Isabela?

It's not just wasting space, irritating folks, it's also very unappropriate.

If you're ever gonna add "City" to it, change it to Bamboo so it'll click.

Cauayan, Isabela or Bamboo City!! :cheers:

pau_p1
November 27th, 2005, 05:45 PM
What's Thai, Japanese, Malaysian word for 'city'? I'm saying Vigan City stinks not just because they had to add the title, but also because Vigan is native word and City is ENGLISH word (doesn't match).


if I'm not mistaken, the Malay term for city is Bahru... that's why Malaysia has Johore Bahru.. and other Bahrus...

I personally don't like to hear a city change its name to match its title of being a city... the 'City' just changes the municipality's status...

amras
November 27th, 2005, 07:20 PM
do we really have to fuss about it?

drfeelgood17
November 27th, 2005, 08:21 PM
[QUOTE=Lili]Oh if you've read my personal geographic history before, you'll find out I'm a true daughter of Metro Manila-- born in Sampaloc (UST Hospital), grew up there as a kid, moved to Marikina as a pre-teen, moved to Quezon City as a teen, studied in UP Dil., worked in Makati and Pasig/Mandaluyong, then moved to NY. My father is Visayan/Waray (some Spanish roots) while my Mom is true blue Sampaloquena with roots from Bulacan.


wow Manila Girl talaga - as well as New York City girl :tongue3:

I'm not much of a Manila boy myself, although I lived briefly with my parents in near the UST campus and also in Vito Cruz when I was little.

Solblanc
November 28th, 2005, 05:41 AM
Of course, I'd like to point out that the "several cities" thingamajig suits our political climate too well. An extra city would mean that you would get more allocations from the government. That, and in the Metro's case, it allows multiple politicians to carve out their own little kingdom :D

chymera00
November 28th, 2005, 01:54 PM
1. I know there are 3 factors in legislating a town as a city: land, pop, and income. But what are the specifics, how big does a town need to be to become a city?
2. How big does a city have to be to become a highly urbanized city?
3. Is the Metro in Metro Cebu or Metro Davao legislated also or is it just a title that people or the executive branch use.
3a. Is there a mayor for the whole of Metro Cebu?
3b. Why is MetroDavao a metropolis when it does not have a metro area because it is just one big city?
4. In Iloilo and Cebu there must be atleast 40municipalities and cities, but in areas like Negros Occidental there is only like 20-30 even though it is bigger than Iloilo or as nearly big as Cebu. Is this division purely political or is there another reason?

bulakenyo
November 28th, 2005, 08:49 PM
Oh! You forgot my favorite city.

It's SM CITY!


Hehehehe.

I'm from the City of Stars....







...StarCity!! :rofl:
hahahahahha!!

naku nagiging masyadong makulit na ata ako. sige serious na. :happy:

Lili
November 28th, 2005, 10:38 PM
do we really have to fuss about it?

Oh you know us, we are just fussy little pseudo-intellectual opinionated know-it-all urbane sophisticates (sniff) but really nothing but trying hard, second-rate, copy cats. (pak pak - complete with slapping effect). :bash:

tigidig14
November 28th, 2005, 10:46 PM
^LOL

renell
November 29th, 2005, 06:45 AM
you need at lot of jeepneys, tricycles, at least an SM or a local equivalent, squatters and Jollibee, maccas, or local equivalent.

ryanr
November 29th, 2005, 06:46 AM
^^ :lol: thrown in some billboards too.

ewh1
November 29th, 2005, 09:10 AM
with at least a million utility wires :banana:

tigidig14
November 29th, 2005, 09:21 AM
i dont find a city as a city until i find bum hanging around. men, i went to paris when i was 17, OMG they were everywhere

bustero
November 29th, 2005, 10:14 AM
1. I know there are 3 factors in legislating a town as a city: land, pop, and income. But what are the specifics, how big does a town need to be to become a city?
2. How big does a city have to be to become a highly urbanized city?
3. Is the Metro in Metro Cebu or Metro Davao legislated also or is it just a title that people or the executive branch use.
3a. Is there a mayor for the whole of Metro Cebu?
3b. Why is MetroDavao a metropolis when it does not have a metro area because it is just one big city?
4. In Iloilo and Cebu there must be atleast 40municipalities and cities, but in areas like Negros Occidental there is only like 20-30 even though it is bigger than Iloilo or as nearly big as Cebu. Is this division purely political or is there another reason?
1. It's a legislated process, Samal Island opposite Davao is really small but somehow managed to have itself chrtered into a city.
2. A million from what I remember but don't quote me on this.
3. The title Metro Cebu is more an economics term used for the agglomoration as opposed to MM which is designated as NCR. I think there's an informal Metro Cebu Council but not as well defined as MM.
3a.Both Metro Cebu and Manila have no mayors for the whole area.
3b. Again more a lable. Really more to distinguish it as a large urban area.
4. Most divisions are political starting though from much older divisions such as language, ethnicity, geography. In general everyone wants to be boss of their own town so they keep asking congress or the relevant legislature to break it up to smaller pieces.

c0kelitr0
November 29th, 2005, 11:31 AM
^^ a highly urbanized city in the philippines doesn't need a million population to be recognized as such. 200,000 is more like it. Iligan and Butuan are highly urbanized, and also Cebu (less than 1mil).

bulakenyo
November 29th, 2005, 10:58 PM
I remember when Malolos was proposed for cityhood, medyo madami ang kumontra. Kasi meron mga towns na mas deserving daw na maging city. Like Baliuag (my hometown) and Meycauayan. Even the late Blas Ople opposed it. But seeing how the development was fast-tracked by its cityhood, parang agree na ako.

ramvingar
November 29th, 2005, 11:38 PM
i notice it's a Filipino sickness.. try checking the other cities/countries forums and they don't call their cities with City, Ciudad, Ville, Stadt, etc... etc. except for some cases when it's suppose to distinguish it from another entity within their territory.


There's no Kuala Lumpur City.
There's no Penang City.
There's no Tijuana City/Ciudad Tijuana.
There's no Toronto City.
There's no Berlin Stadt or Frankfurt stadt.
There's no Nagoya City.
There's no Hong Kong City.
There's no Milan City/Citta di Milano

I think it's just a matter of having a nickname. In the case of Kuala Lumpur, I think "Kuala" already means city. I could be wrong. As for the other cities that you mentioned, if you look at their official names, they usually have "City of" in the beginning. Like City of Toronto, or City of Nagoya, or even City of Los Angeles and City of Paris. It's just a matter of preference if you want to drop the "City" at the end or "City of" in the beginning. You can call Legazpi City just plain Legazpi if you want or Olongapo City as Olongapo

pau_p1
November 30th, 2005, 04:53 AM
I think you pointed that out correctly.. it will all depend on the preference of the person addressing the city if he decides to add it or drop it....

chymera00
November 30th, 2005, 02:02 PM
oh ok ... hehe
was just curious

I thought the whole MM has a mayor coz they call Atienza Mayor of Mayors ..hehe

cyrusal
November 30th, 2005, 05:30 PM
Oh you know us, we are just fussy little pseudo-intellectual opinionated know-it-all urbane sophisticates (sniff) but really nothing but trying hard, second-rate, copy cats. (pak pak - complete with slapping effect). :bash:

:rofl: :rofl:

weirdo
November 30th, 2005, 06:54 PM
same reaction sa avatar ni cyrusal.

ishtefh_03
December 2nd, 2005, 07:03 AM
i just wanna ask... kase according to one of my housemate when one is a city, di pwedeng galawin ito ng governor?? mayor ang my hawak?? tulad sa min, city of san fernando, di pwedeng makialam si lapid kahit na sya ung governor ng pampanga... la lng just want to make it clear...

c0kelitr0
December 2nd, 2005, 10:31 AM
it depends what kind of city it is. some component(???) cities are still part of their respective provincial governments.

driftwood
December 2nd, 2005, 10:40 AM
"To city or not to city?"

Sinjin P.
December 3rd, 2005, 04:43 AM
I think it's in the Philippine Constitution.

As I mentioned previously, a city distinguishes itself from a municipality. A city gets more allocated budget than the municipalities. That's why it's every municipality's aim to become a city. ;)

thomasian
December 3rd, 2005, 05:03 AM
...but a city also pays bigger taxes than a municipality.

Sinjin P.
December 6th, 2005, 12:18 PM
1. I know there are 3 factors in legislating a town as a city: land, pop, and income. But what are the specifics, how big does a town need to be to become a city?
2. How big does a city have to be to become a highly urbanized city?
3. Is the Metro in Metro Cebu or Metro Davao legislated also or is it just a title that people or the executive branch use.
3a. Is there a mayor for the whole of Metro Cebu?
3b. Why is MetroDavao a metropolis when it does not have a metro area because it is just one big city?
4. In Iloilo and Cebu there must be atleast 40municipalities and cities, but in areas like Negros Occidental there is only like 20-30 even though it is bigger than Iloilo or as nearly big as Cebu. Is this division purely political or is there another reason?

Just to clarify:
3. The Metro in Metro Cebu is legislated. Infact the petition to include areas until Carcar in the South and Danao City in the North into Metro Cebu was already approved by the Metro Cebu Development Council ;)

bustero
December 7th, 2005, 04:49 AM
When was metro cebu set up ? Was it by Congress or is it more like an association initiated by the ind. cities?

Lili
December 7th, 2005, 05:51 AM
1. It's a legislated process, Samal Island opposite Davao is really small but somehow managed to have itself chrtered into a city.
2. A million from what I remember but don't quote me on this.
3. The title Metro Cebu is more an economics term used for the agglomoration as opposed to MM which is designated as NCR. I think there's an informal Metro Cebu Council but not as well defined as MM.
3a.Both Metro Cebu and Manila have no mayors for the whole area.
3b. Again more a lable. Really more to distinguish it as a large urban area.
4. Most divisions are political starting though from much older divisions such as language, ethnicity, geography. In general everyone wants to be boss of their own town so they keep asking congress or the relevant legislature to break it up to smaller pieces.

I knew it. It will take the Great Bustero to get a straight answer.

mmlon
December 10th, 2005, 07:19 AM
In my opinion for now it would be Makati, since it is well developed. But Bonifacio Global City will be next because it well plann. I can't wait to get a job and start investing there.

manileño
December 10th, 2005, 07:22 AM
manila-pasay-parañaque sunset bay cities :)

boybleauXx
December 10th, 2005, 01:34 PM
the recent Asian Institute of Management (AIM) study among Philippine cities in 2003 have classified urban areas into 3. The category is based on population alone and not on per annum income and land area included as what the Department of Interior and Local Government (DILG) is using as their basis for the IRA (Internal Revenue Allotment).

AIM study classifications:

A. Metro Cities (1 million population and over)
1. Manila
2. Quezon City
3. Pasay City
4. Makati City
5. Pasig City
6. Davao City
7. Cebu City

B. Mid-sized Cities (250,000 and +)
1. Bacolod City
2. Butuan City
3. Cagayan de Oro City
4. General Santos City
5. Iloilo City
6. Iligan City
7. Mandaue City
8. San Fernando City
9. Zamboanga City

C. Small Cities


The DILG is using the following classifications

A. Highly Urbanized City ( A city autonomous from Provincial control, and with separate congressional area, with a per annum income of-----I forgot :) )
B. Chartered City-Provincial Capital
C. Component City

Sinjin P.
December 10th, 2005, 01:38 PM
the recent Asian Institute of Management (AIM) study among Philippine cities in 2003 have classified urban areas into 3. The category is based on population alone and not on per annum income and land area included as what the Department of Interior and Local Government (DILG) is using as their basis for the IRA (Internal Revenue Allotment).

AIM study classifications:

A. Metro Cities (1 million population and over)
1. Manila
2. Quezon City
3. Pasay City
4. Makati City
5. Pasig City
6. Davao City
7. Cebu City

B. Mid-sized Cities (250,000 and +)
1. Bacolod City
2. Butuan City
3. Cagayan de Oro City
4. Iloilo City
5. Iligan City
6. San Fernando City

C. Small Cities


The DILG is using the following classifications

A. Highly Urbanized City ( A city autonomous from Provincial control, and with separate congressional area, with a per annum income of-----I forgot :) )
B. Chartered City-Provincial Capital
C. Component City

Cebu City's population is only about 700,000+ people not reaching a million. ;)

boybleauXx
December 10th, 2005, 01:42 PM
hmmm....dunno why they put it under Metro cities.

Sinjin P.
December 10th, 2005, 02:04 PM
Actually, the 3 basis (bases-correct grammar) for Metro Cities are Population, INCOME (the most important) and Land Area. ;)

Askal82
December 10th, 2005, 04:33 PM
Well, in terms of being a livable city, Marikina is still the best. It doesn't have the big shopping malls or tall scrapers yet no cities can parallel the orderliness, cleanliness and the discipline of its citizens. Marikina city set the standards of 'urbanity' from which all the other cities in the Philippines are measured.

SKYLINEPIGEON
December 22nd, 2005, 04:08 PM
so even if the muncipality has a huge population and big income but small land area it cant be a city???? are these instances when people rejected cityhood in a peblecite

FrancisXavier
January 26th, 2006, 08:23 AM
Let's post the best pictures of provincial skylines of the Philippines here.
We can also include here some renderings of proposed skyscrapers anywhere in the Philippines(excluding Metro Manila)..
Let's support this thread..

FrancisXavier
January 26th, 2006, 09:14 AM
Let me start it.. One of the dominating buildings in Cagayan de Oro..
Maxandrea Hotel
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d190/angeleslew/Maxandrea_Hotel2_small.jpg

rustyboi
January 26th, 2006, 09:31 AM
Cebu City

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/cebupics2/metropolis/cebu_dec2005_pano1.jpg

kyle@1008
January 26th, 2006, 09:32 AM
The PNB building, Bacolod city

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b198/kyle_Lark/building.jpg

Riverside Hospital

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b198/kyle_Lark/jpg67.jpg

FrancisXavier
January 26th, 2006, 09:42 AM
hahay, i always like cebu.. a great port city...

rustyboi
January 26th, 2006, 09:43 AM
The Fuente Osmeña Towers
Cebu City

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/cebupics2/club%20ultima/small/regency03.jpghttp://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/cebupics2/club%20ultima/small/regency04.jpghttp://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/cebupics2/club%20ultima/small/Fuente_towers.jpg

Club Ultima - Tower I (25 storeys) - Q1 2006
Crown Regency Hotel - Tower II (40 storeys) - approx 130-150 meters in height - Q4 2007

Posted by Sugbuanon
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/9572/img02607qz.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/4598/img02432js.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Citylights Gardens: Towers I and II

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/1707/img04271pf.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

from Sunstar Cebu: Towers III and IV groundbreaking
Target completion date: Year 2008

rustyboi
January 26th, 2006, 09:47 AM
in addition to the Fuente Osmeña towers, two more high-rise structures will rise within the complex. construction will start immediately after the completion of Towers I and II. more under constructions of high-rises from Metro Cebu. cant provide more details though you can check it out at Cebu Proposals and UC's thread. thanks!

FrancisXavier
January 26th, 2006, 09:54 AM
i like the building with round windows..

rustyboi
January 26th, 2006, 10:02 AM
i think it would be better to change the thread title to
Luzviminda Skyline (excluding Metro Manila and Metro Cebu)

too much exposure on Cebu photos already. lol

anyway, here's a rendering of Uptown Cebu with the upcoming Club Ultima Towers

created by Slimer
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/2633/uptown25dh.jpg

here's a photo collage i made
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/cebupics2/cebu_thread.jpg

KulasKusgan
January 26th, 2006, 10:22 AM
Dakbayan sa Dabaw

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a157/kulaskusgan/dc/gmall4.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a157/kulaskusgan/dc/davao4.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a328/nomdeusuario/davao01.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v332/ladies_nyt/davao1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v332/ladies_nyt/davao5.jpg

_zner_
January 26th, 2006, 11:10 AM
nice provincial skylines.. :D

chymera00
January 26th, 2006, 01:56 PM
Iloilo City
Aerial, in the sky :D

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y54/chymera00/iloilocitypics/iloilokskyline.jpg

slerz
January 26th, 2006, 02:15 PM
The Fuente Osmeña Towers
Cebu City

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/cebupics2/club%20ultima/small/regency03.jpghttp://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/cebupics2/club%20ultima/small/regency04.jpghttp://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/cebupics2/club%20ultima/small/Fuente_towers.jpg

Club Ultima - Tower I (25 storeys) - Q1 2006
Crown Regency Hotel - Tower II (40 storeys) - approx 130-150 meters in height - Q4 2007



so this will be included in the top 25 tallest buildings in the country.

MarkiiBoi
January 26th, 2006, 02:16 PM
@ chymeroo: first time ko nakita yan ah. ganda!

@ slerz: naa ka list sa top 25?

boybleauXx
January 26th, 2006, 02:21 PM
Butuan sky line views taken at diferent angles ~

The photo below taken from a high scale :
http://pic13.picturetrail.com/VOL473/4138906/8638500/117580473.jpg
Butuan City, with it flat 87,000 hectare territory has plenty of room to go sideways. There is no very tall building yet in the city as the tallest so far consists of 7 storeys only. The Agusan River is a 150 meter wide navigable body of water that divides he city into the western and eastern banks.


taken from a much closer scale
http://pic13.picturetrail.com/VOL473/4138906/8638500/117580481.jpg
This sprawl has been a result of haphazard build here and there due to inadequate planning as most urbanized Philippine cities are plagued with.


taken from a very much higher scale ~ SPACE
http://pic13.picturetrail.com/VOL473/4138906/8638500/117469440.jpg
Butuan as seen from a low orbit space satellite

MarkiiBoi
January 26th, 2006, 02:27 PM
^^ look! the color of the river from space is blue! :j/k:

boybleauXx
January 26th, 2006, 02:32 PM
color blind ata ang satellite na to :)

sugbuanon
January 26th, 2006, 02:59 PM
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/8874/img02759hh.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/728/img0258w0zh.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/4012/img0257w9da.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

slerz
January 26th, 2006, 03:09 PM
@ chymeroo: first time ko nakita yan ah. ganda!

@ slerz: naa ka list sa top 25?

here sa Emporis...
http://www.emporis.com/en/bu/sk/st/tp/co/?id=100131

MarkiiBoi
January 26th, 2006, 03:40 PM
^^ thnx bai. the list will surely be re-written by 2007.

chymera00
January 26th, 2006, 04:16 PM
@ chymeroo: first time ko nakita yan ah. ganda!

Thanks... too bad blurry ang ibang portions
Here the link for the zoomed out version:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y54/chymera00/iloilocitypics/SkylinePano.jpg

It was taken in Balaan Bukid, Guimaras a 15min boat ride, a 5-min tricycle, and a 30-45min hike from Iloilo City.

slerz
January 26th, 2006, 04:27 PM
Uptown Cebu
http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/7639/cebuskyline0fr.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/7305/gmofc929vg.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Downtown Cebu
http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/3826/downtowncebufromfgu15jd.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/794/cit26al.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Mandaue City
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/9289/mandct24na.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/9783/mandct3copy0mi.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

FrancisXavier
January 27th, 2006, 06:56 AM
CDO from eastern mountains
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d190/angeleslew/CDO_View_frm_Seminary_Hill2.jpg

LordCarnal
January 27th, 2006, 04:20 PM
@rusty

yah exclude nalang CC..

LordCarnal
January 27th, 2006, 04:23 PM
@boybluex

nice butuan pic.. :)

LordCarnal
January 27th, 2006, 04:32 PM
Sleepwaker_uno what's this structure colored green that looks like tiles at middle right? A sports stadium?
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a157/kulaskusgan/dc/davao4.jpg

Also, what's this establishment at lower left, and that glass building too.. The white building upper right is Pryce Plaza I guess?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v332/ladies_nyt/davao5.jpg

LordCarnal
January 27th, 2006, 04:36 PM
I wonder where an archaeological field might be located.. :)
http://pic13.picturetrail.com/VOL473/4138906/8638500/117469440.jpg

boybleauXx
January 27th, 2006, 04:44 PM
hello arnoldsa

actually the whole Butuan flat land is an archeologic field as this was once form the delta of the ancient river where the old trading port used to exists.....with continuing advancement of the land towards the sea due to sedimentation and siltation over the millenia these ancient sites now lie below to some Butuan citys present barangays.

boybleauXx
January 27th, 2006, 04:45 PM
hello arnoldsa

actually the whole Butuan flat land is an archeologic field as this was once form the delta of the ancient river where the old trading port used to exist.....with continuing advancement of the land towards the sea due to sedimentation and siltation over the millenia these ancient sites now lie below to some Butuan citys present barangays.

fundraiser
January 27th, 2006, 05:08 PM
makikipapel lang... butt in ko bai arnold, hehehe

that establishment, if i remember correctly is victoria plaza man siguro, dunno how theyre doing now with the entry of sm, but i heard nabili na raw ito ng robinsons. nice location dahil nasa main artery.

ps.
yeah, buti siguro if exclude na lang cebu city here, overexposed na ata, hehehe, there are a lot of pics of cebu on other threads naman

FrancisXavier
January 28th, 2006, 03:19 AM
Sleepwaker_uno what's this structure colored green that looks like tiles at middle right? A sports stadium?
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a157/kulaskusgan/dc/davao4.jpg

Also, what's this establishment at lower left, and that glass building too.. The white building upper right is Pryce Plaza I guess?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v332/ladies_nyt/davao5.jpg

is there a pryce plaza in DC? Ngayon ko lang nalaman.. all i knew is pryce plaza only exist in CDO.

LordCarnal
January 28th, 2006, 03:40 AM
^^

@FrancisXavier

Are you from CDO?

FrancisXavier
January 28th, 2006, 03:52 AM
yup..im from cdo.

LordCarnal
January 28th, 2006, 05:41 AM
^^

ows? I was born in CDO but grew up here in Cebu.. Meron din kami mga kilala dyan -- Sedigo, Lorenzo, etc..

KulasKusgan
January 28th, 2006, 06:16 PM
Sleepwaker_uno what's this structure colored green that looks like tiles at middle right? A sports stadium?
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a157/kulaskusgan/dc/davao4.jpg

currently, theres no sports stadium in davao. they are tents in PTA grounds, used in every agri-trade fairs during city fiestas. PTA grounds used to be a wooden stadium, caught fire long time ago and was never rebuilt.

Also, what's this establishment at lower left, and that glass building too.. The white building upper right is Pryce Plaza I guess?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v332/ladies_nyt/davao5.jpg

lower left fundraiser is right its victoria plaza mall, the first mall in davao built in early 90s. that glassy bldg in the middle is Landco Pacific Corporate Center. and to the right, yes ur right, its Pryce Tower.

LordCarnal
January 29th, 2006, 06:27 AM
^^

Umm.. I didn't notice that Victoria Plaza was just along the road?. I remembered the last time I visited Davao almost a decade ago there was a large space between the road and the building itself, some sort of a big parking area. Did they expand?

FrancisXavier
February 1st, 2006, 06:06 AM
areal of north CDO.Bay area.
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d190/angeleslew/50728389.jpg

LordCarnal
February 1st, 2006, 07:40 AM
^^

They can establish linear parks along the river and a Yacht Club at the bay. The tip of the city (left) will certainly look awesome with those tall buildings..

FrancisXavier
February 1st, 2006, 07:44 AM
ithinkthe river banks will be preserved.. they actually planned to pave it but many old cdo folks opposed..they dont want the kalambago trees along the river banks to be out.

LordCarnal
February 1st, 2006, 08:42 AM
^^

pave it? ummmm... A linear park with all those Kalambago Trees, tapos fishing along the river bank.. wow.. By the way, the port area is not in the pic posted above right? Because I remembered from the port we still had to travel a few kilometers to the city center.. :)

LordCarnal
February 1st, 2006, 08:52 AM
ORMOC CITY Skyline

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/ormoccity_big.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/photo_ormoc_labeled.jpg
http://userwww.aimnet.ne.jp/user/mizumoto/felipe1.jpg

fundraiser
February 1st, 2006, 06:09 PM
wow! didnt xpect ormoc to look that way ah, nice! maganda pala

tj_brewed
February 1st, 2006, 10:53 PM
is there a pryce plaza in DC? Ngayon ko lang nalaman.. all i knew is pryce plaza only exist in CDO.


There's no Pryce Plaza Hotel in Davao City..However, there is a Pryce Business Park which includes a Pryce Tower and Landco Tower.


http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/tj_brewed/DAVAO/Cebu/_tj.jpg

tj_brewed
February 1st, 2006, 10:56 PM
lemme share few of my pix...


Some Snapshots of Davao City... (taken almost 4 years ago na!)



http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/tj_brewed/DAVAO/Cebu/davao.jpg

lochinvar
February 2nd, 2006, 10:02 AM
Looking at the picture of Ormoc, are those barren area at the back of the picture part of the culprit for that extensive landslide that happened a few years back?

slerz
February 2nd, 2006, 10:13 AM
nop, there's no landslides that happened but a big flashflood due to a rain burst brought by the storm...

c0kelitr0
February 3rd, 2006, 06:19 AM
judging from that photo, it seems that Ormoc has a very tiny urban area.

ryanr
February 3rd, 2006, 06:35 AM
wow! didnt xpect ormoc to look that way ah, nice! maganda pala

I know! And its so clean. I dont see any slummy areas, which sadly is a trait of Filipino cities.

c0kelitr0
February 3rd, 2006, 07:00 AM
^^ many small cities here don't have slums.

FrancisXavier
February 3rd, 2006, 07:10 AM
one example is Malaybalay city in Bukidnon. i like the city. when you're there, parang nasa Baguio ka na rin bcoz of the landscape.

boybleauXx
February 3rd, 2006, 12:11 PM
can we have an exclusive thread dedicated to small cities?

Around my area, thre are other cities that are quiet modest and small yet scenic and beautiful...

slerz
February 3rd, 2006, 02:35 PM
uptown Cebu City skyline from a distance (excluding CBP)

http://img500.imageshack.us/img500/1945/dscn52028cp.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img500.imageshack.us/img500/8522/dscn52002ma.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img500.imageshack.us/img500/3133/dscn51979rm.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

downtown Cebu City skyline
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/3751/dscn52058hu.jpg

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/1701/dscn52185of.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

boybleauXx
February 3rd, 2006, 02:44 PM
nice views !

Its nice to bike along this road going to Talisay and enjoy the Cebu strait across it :)
I like the roads...so smooth...

I wonder how this road is built...Is it a concrete overlayed by a thick layer of high grade asphalt or purely asphalt?

The road system in the Mandaue Reclamation are purley made of asphalt...which is not suitable for heavy vehicles at high speeds...and there are portions that have started to buckle and sink going to the Mandaue City Hospital.

slerz
February 3rd, 2006, 02:52 PM
^^I always do the biking in that area (Talisay city side) every week... ;)

I dunno if its a concrete or not.... what I know is that the contractor of that billion worth road is Japanese...

boybleauXx
February 3rd, 2006, 03:03 PM
yep....If I am not mistaken.....Its Kajima Corporation... am not sure

Kajima is the major contractor of the LADP here in Butuan

Kumusta naman ang Talisay karon?

slerz
February 3rd, 2006, 03:13 PM
^^Here's the latest pics of Talisay City Cebu if you haven't seen it yet... post 99
http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=309694&page=5&pp=20

boybleauXx
February 3rd, 2006, 03:35 PM
thanks a lot slerz !

fundraiser
February 3rd, 2006, 06:40 PM
I know! And its so clean. I dont see any slummy areas, which sadly is a trait of Filipino cities.

yeah, very nice pala ang ormoc! looks like from monopoly tycoon or simcity, galeng! organized din yung grid pattern ng roads.

ot: dugay naman ko la kaduwag simcity and monopoly tycoon! hehe

sugbuanon
February 4th, 2006, 04:08 AM
ORMOC CITY Skyline

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/arnoldsa/ormoccity_big.jpg


looks like a european city to me..

slerz
February 4th, 2006, 04:20 AM
Ormoc before the 1991 tragedy is not organized compared today... There are slum like houses but they're not slum areas or squatter coz they own the lot... most houses are also located after the bridge, not in the city proper (Iforgot the name) but its located at the left of the pic.
Their trycicle terminal is very clean and also their public market...

sugbuanon
February 4th, 2006, 04:46 AM
yeah its really a very organized city.. everytime i hear the word ormoc, the first thing to come into my mind are the "mestizas".. marami daw mga mestizas sa ormoc..

kevinb
February 4th, 2006, 05:59 AM
the recent Asian Institute of Management (AIM) study among Philippine cities in 2003 have classified urban areas into 3. The category is based on population alone and not on per annum income and land area included as what the Department of Interior and Local Government (DILG) is using as their basis for the IRA (Internal Revenue Allotment).

AIM study classifications:

A. Metro Cities (1 million population and over)
1. Manila
2. Quezon City
3. Pasay City
4. Makati City
5. Pasig City
6. Davao City
7. Cebu City

B. Mid-sized Cities (250,000 and +)
1. Bacolod City
2. Butuan City
3. Cagayan de Oro City
4. General Santos City
5. Iloilo City
6. Iligan City
7. Mandaue City
8. San Fernando City
9. Zamboanga City

C. Small Cities


The DILG is using the following classifications

A. Highly Urbanized City ( A city autonomous from Provincial control, and with separate congressional area, with a per annum income of-----I forgot :) )
B. Chartered City-Provincial Capital
C. Component City

i only know 3 cities that have over 1M pop..
quezon,,manila and davao..
butuan,,gensan,,iligan,,mandaue,,and san fernando have below-than 250,000+ pop.. :)

kevinb
February 4th, 2006, 06:00 AM
so even if the muncipality has a huge population and big income but small land area it cant be a city???? are these instances when people rejected cityhood in a peblecite

actually,,land area is the least important factor..
a municipality becomes a city when it has over 50,000 pop and an income of over php 50M..

kiretoce
February 4th, 2006, 06:06 AM
^^ :hi: Hello @kevinb! Welcome! Are you new to the forums?

LordCarnal
February 4th, 2006, 07:01 AM
lemme share few of my pix...


Some Snapshots of Davao City... (taken almost 4 years ago na!)



http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/tj_brewed/DAVAO/Cebu/davao.jpg

umm so you were the one who took these pictures.. By the way, that building in the second picture, the one in upper right, that's Durian Hotel right?

Coffee
February 4th, 2006, 07:58 AM
actually,,land area is the least important factor..
a municipality becomes a city when it has over 50,000 pop and an income of over php 50M..

I think they changed the criteria recently. The current population requirement to become a city is 100,000.

And land area does not matter.

richard24
February 4th, 2006, 11:25 AM
Just to clarify:
3. The Metro in Metro Cebu is legislated. Infact the petition to include areas until Carcar in the South and Danao City in the North into Metro Cebu was already approved by the Metro Cebu Development Council ;)

hindi chartered and Metro cebu... meaning wala pang legislation sa congress creating metro cebu. local legislation palang. but i hope this will also be done. :)

rustyboi
February 4th, 2006, 05:12 PM
there are three major urban centers in three major islands in the Philippines. Metro Manila for Luzon, Metro Cebu for Visayas, and Davao City for Mindanao.

boybleauXx
February 5th, 2006, 06:14 PM
i only know 3 cities that have over 1M pop..
quezon,,manila and davao..
butuan,,gensan,,iligan,,mandaue,,and san fernando have below-than 250,000+ pop.. :)

the Philippine Cities Competitiveness Ranking Project in 2003 and soon in 2005 have placed those cities mentioned above as having equal or more than 250 Thousand and classified them as medium sized cities along with Bacolod, Iloilo, Cagayan de Oro, General Santos etc.

Manila-X
February 7th, 2006, 09:33 AM
What do you think of Manila? Is it a fast-paced city or is it laid-back?

rustyboi
February 7th, 2006, 09:36 AM
for me fast-paced syempre. why ask? :)

Manila-X
February 7th, 2006, 09:41 AM
for me fast-paced syempre. why ask? :)

Alot of people view Manila as a laid back city but when I was there, I felt that sometimes, life in Manila can be faster than HK! And alot people look at HK as fast paced!

MarkiiBoi
February 7th, 2006, 09:46 AM
Maybe in Makati, it is fast-paced, but somewhere else, laid-back... :D

Manila-X
February 7th, 2006, 09:49 AM
Maybe in Makati, it is fast-paced, but somewhere else, laid-back... :D

Ang suburban areas ng Metro Manila ay laid back. Ang exceptions ay Monumento sa Caloocan at Quezon City. The busiest area I've been to in Metro Manila is still quiapo/divisoria.

rustyboi
February 7th, 2006, 09:51 AM
Alabang is laid-back :D which i like.

Manila-X
February 7th, 2006, 09:54 AM
Alabang is laid-back :D which i like.

Very true :D

Anyway, I have mixed feelings with Makati. It is busy during weekdays but not too much activities happening there compared to Ermita or Quiapo. The CBD is dead on the weekends!

slerz
February 7th, 2006, 09:56 AM
Fast paced ofcourse pero if Binay will still be the Mayor in the next election, Makati will become laidback!!!

rustyboi
February 7th, 2006, 09:56 AM
^^ True! Ortigas Center and Ayala Ave Makati both are literally ghost towns on Sundays and working holidays. :D

slerz
February 7th, 2006, 09:57 AM
Very true :D

Anyway, I have mixed feelings with Makati. It is busy during weekdays but not too much activities happening there compared to Ermita or Quiapo. The CBD is dead on the weekends!

result of Binays kabalbalan... :ohno:

rustyboi
February 7th, 2006, 10:01 AM
result of Binays kabalbalan... :ohno:

well, not really... people who flock to makati only happen during office days/hours. it is where high-profiled companies are located. but it gets super fast-paced during anti-arroyo rallies! :lol:

rustyboi
February 7th, 2006, 10:05 AM
Very true :D

Anyway, I have mixed feelings with Makati. It is busy during weekdays but not too much activities happening there compared to Ermita or Quiapo. The CBD is dead on the weekends!

a recent survey says the most popular shopping place in metro manila among the locals is in Divisoria. it should be busier than ermita, quiapo etc.

slerz
February 7th, 2006, 10:07 AM
what I mean the businessmen don't like what the Mayor of the Philippines financial district is doing... It's ok if he's pro opposition but he should not include the whole city, sa kanya nalang un... ;)
Marami nang nagrereklamong mga negosyante, ano kaya ang sumunod... ???

_zner_
February 7th, 2006, 10:14 AM
i find it both though.. but fast paced is still heavier... :D

Askal82
February 7th, 2006, 10:40 AM
Hmm, If there is a continuum whereas fast pace is left and laid back is far end to the right, I would put Metro Manila as somewhere near the middle leaning toward fast pace. It's a vibrant city even on weekends. The city that never sleeps too. :)

kyle@1008
February 7th, 2006, 10:45 AM
congested.... wanch makati is alive at night... I stay up all the time there... check out makati ave..... and the greenbelt area... its alive even at 2am up to 4am.... :colgate:

normandb
February 7th, 2006, 11:11 AM
Fast paced. sometimes 24 hours is not enough :D it depends on what part of M. Manila.

Manila-X
February 7th, 2006, 11:32 AM
congested.... wanch makati is alive at night... I stay up all the time there... check out makati ave..... and the greenbelt area... its alive even at 2am up to 4am.... :colgate:

True that Greenbelt and also Burgos are some of the liveliest areas in Makati but the main CBD (where all the offices are) is pretty much dead!

normandb
February 7th, 2006, 11:37 AM
True that Greenbelt and also Burgos are some of the liveliest areas in Makati but the main CBD (where all the offices are) is pretty much dead!

true

kyle@1008
February 7th, 2006, 11:39 AM
.... because wanch.... people work there.... those buildings are for offices... oh well,.. don't you go to makati avenue andaming foreigners doon nang pipick up :naughty:

rmb
February 7th, 2006, 12:02 PM
manila is obviously fast paced....:)

makati CBD is "dead" at night starting at 10 pm and the whole of Sunday

bagel
February 7th, 2006, 12:22 PM
congested.... wanch makati is alive at night... I stay up all the time there... check out makati ave..... and the greenbelt area... its alive even at 2am up to 4am.... :colgate:

And you know, there's always someone alive right outside the back entrance of Manila Penn in Makati. Near Swiss Inn. That person is always there... but dangerous. I heard that he looks like a woman but is really a man.

kyle@1008
February 7th, 2006, 12:35 PM
^^ yikes...... a femme/homme fatale

kiretoce
February 7th, 2006, 03:06 PM
Evenly paced. ;)

manileño
February 7th, 2006, 03:11 PM
manila is generally fast paced.. at least you can hear it is fast paced. hehehe, i kinda associate the noise level with the level of activity sometimes. in that case, manila is very very fast. :lol:

drfeelgood17
February 7th, 2006, 03:12 PM
^ I can't imagine Manila being described as "laid-back" - if we mean, stress-free!! :)
Hola Juan, you're up early!

manileño
February 7th, 2006, 03:15 PM
^oi steve! mawning. yea cos i slept early last night and didnt anymore log in here due to heavy snow. im a bear. hehehehe

drfeelgood17
February 7th, 2006, 03:22 PM
Hibernating huh? hmmm i want snow now!

tigidig14
February 7th, 2006, 03:29 PM
want laid back ofcourse, who wudnt!!! but apparently not :sleepy:

kevinb
February 8th, 2006, 01:01 PM
^^ :hi: Hello @kevinb! Welcome! Are you new to the forums?

hi!yeah im new.. :wave:

and by the way,,metro naga is a legislated metropolitan area in luzon..it's composed of naga city and 14 adjacent municipalities.. :)

slerz
February 8th, 2006, 04:41 PM
When was metro cebu set up ? Was it by Congress or is it more like an association initiated by the ind. cities?

hindi chartered and Metro cebu... meaning wala pang legislation sa congress creating metro cebu. local legislation palang. but i hope this will also be done. :)


1st and foremost, walang nag set up ng metro cebu ven sa congress... tinawag nalang nila itong metro bigla kase kumalat nalang ring bigla ang development sa mandaue city, lapulapu city, talisay city etc... katulad din sya ng metro manila ang setting...

hindi kagaya sa Iloilo na they are setting it up kahit hindi pa siya defined as a real metro area.

my questions are...
1. with the current economic setting of cebu's urban areas, pwede ba itong di matawag na metro? as others are saying that metro manila is the only valid metropolitan center in the philippines and to think na hindi pa naaprove sa congress, so the whole cebu urban area shouldn't be called metro cebu...

2. with the current economic setting of iloilo's urban areas, pwede ba itong di matawag na metro? and iloilo is already applying for a metrohood...

slerz
February 8th, 2006, 04:47 PM
hmmm....dunno why they put it under Metro cities.

cebu city alone is not lined with metro cities...

if we base on population criteria... cebu is not valid to be part of metro cities so
cebu city is lined with mid-sized cities... ;)

cebu city's population should not reach 1 million... it will destroy cebu city's image...

LhexiMont
February 18th, 2006, 12:28 AM
What's the new skyscrapers that has been added lately ?

xXx carlos xXx
February 18th, 2006, 12:41 AM
GT international is my favorite..... the best skyscraper in the philippines

Askal82
February 18th, 2006, 04:04 AM
GT tower is the iconic one in Makati I guess. It really stands out in terms of aesthetics and architechture. The RCBC tower looks like a big water jug.

tyronne
February 18th, 2006, 04:29 AM
GT and Grand Shang :okay:

ryanr
February 18th, 2006, 04:33 AM
Overall: GT International
Office: GT International with RCBC, ATO and Enterprise not far behind.
Residential: ORT or Pacific Plaza Towers

OtAkAw
February 18th, 2006, 06:57 AM
Office: GT INternational
Residential: Pacific Plaza in FBGC

rockwell baller
February 19th, 2006, 09:18 PM
dis thread is good! grandest for me is Ayala Tower 1
stature is GT Tower and Robinsons Equitable(ortigas)
massiveness is RCBC
all day beauty is enterprise center

renell
February 20th, 2006, 09:15 AM
What's the new skyscrapers that has been added lately ?

Hmm.. there's Malayan Plaza, Columns, One Legazpi Place, Shang Grand Tower. The last one mentioned I reckon should seep in into people's grandest and best skyscrapers in a few years time, if it hasn't yet

slerz
March 17th, 2006, 11:36 PM
Cebu City

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/cebupics2/metropolis/cebu_dec2005_pano1.jpg
Cebu City Skyline

Photos by Iceman25
Edited by Rusty18

http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/4227/cebuosmenablvd9ne.jpg
Osmeña Boulevard Skyline

http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/3803/cebubusinesspark8vu.jpg
Cebu Business Park Skyline

Sinjin P.
March 18th, 2006, 01:08 AM
^^ It's beginning to grow! :applause:

mhe-ann
March 18th, 2006, 05:37 AM
nice thread. keep the pictures coming. :okay:

rustyboi
March 18th, 2006, 05:50 AM
Cebu City

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/cebupics2/metropolis/cebu_dec2005_pano1.jpg
Cebu City Skyline

Photos by Iceman25
Edited by Rusty18

http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/4227/cebuosmenablvd9ne.jpg
Osmeña Boulevard Skyline

http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/3803/cebubusinesspark8vu.jpg
Cebu Business Park Skyline

Magnificent skylines! two upcoming skyscrapers will be visible in Osmeña Blvd soon! and 5 more pending high-rise applications in Cebu Business Park this year! :rock:

junax
March 20th, 2006, 06:03 AM
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f368/badith/newcollage.jpg




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MarkiiBoi
March 20th, 2006, 06:47 AM
by sugbuanon:

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/6697/skyscrapercity17lo8gk.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

MarkiiBoi
March 20th, 2006, 12:57 PM
Late afternoon in Cebu City:

Photos by: MarkiiBoi ; Panorama by: rusty18


http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i83/MarkiiBoi4/DSC00358copy2.jpg

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h102/cebupics3/panorama/thead-sample.jpg

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h102/cebupics3/panorama/thead-sample02.jpg

ark
March 21st, 2006, 08:58 AM
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e116/gedalanga/iloilocapitol.jpg

NEW ILOILO PROVINCIAL CAPITOL, Bonifacio Drive, Iloilo City

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e116/gedalanga/iloilofutureprovcapitol.jpg

Rendu of the New and Old Capitol Buildings

Kaiser
March 21st, 2006, 10:42 AM
nice pix:colgate:

slerz
March 21st, 2006, 04:37 PM
LAPU LAPU City skyline

http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/5260/lapusk40en.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/1828/lapusk13ly.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/7678/lapusk21ex.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/6356/lapusk38lh.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Foggy afternoon
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/7012/cebucitysk5oa.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

JAMAICUS
March 22nd, 2006, 07:04 AM
Has anyone been to Malolos? How is its historical skyline?

rustyboi
March 22nd, 2006, 09:49 AM
LAPU LAPU City skyline

http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/5260/lapusk40en.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/1828/lapusk13ly.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/7678/lapusk21ex.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/6356/lapusk38lh.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
wow look at that! Lapu-Lapu City skyline alone can easily beat the country's top mid-sized cities :okay: haha. how much more when the 7-tower hotel is finished. beautiful :applause:

rustyboi
March 22nd, 2006, 10:23 AM
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h102/cebupics3/panorama/parktowertwo-pano.jpg
Cebu Business Park

Photos by Sugbuanon