davao's not yet a Metropolis... Only Abs-cbn thinks it metro... haha

if toril breaks up... thats when davao becomes a metro...
its not about being the most progressive... its about a city, haaving a city inside...
example... MANila=pasig pasaymakati
CEBU=not familiar
and surprisingly NAGa

Davao= Digos Panabo Tagum is not inside davao City per se

if the proposed breaking up of davao into three cities ( ithink its going tobe divided accdg to the 3 congressional ditricts..then that will be the day ill call davao a metro.. :D) tapos we can annex samal..right now, the idea of metro davao as suggested by this website http://www.pcpd.ph/grants/locator.asp# isnt that acceptable for now (at least for me)

other articles i found re:metro davao


Antalan: Metropolitanization
By Roger P. Antalan

The metropolitan area is rapidly growing. As early as now, there is a need for the LGUs to collaborate on their common issues, problems and opportunities.

METROPOLITANIZATION is a word that is hard to pronounce. Unless understood very well, it is a concept that might even be harder to implement. Briefly, it means forming or uniting the LGUs of Davao City, Island Garden City of Samal, Panabo City and the Municipality of Sta. Cruz into a Metropolitan Davao Development Authority.

About four years ago, some consultants had already proposed the creation of a Metro Davao. No doubt about it, complementation among the four neighboring LGUs is a great and much-needed idea.

The project however was shut down before it could take off. The local chief executives concerned did not like the idea of a Metro governor taking over with a higher authority. There was also some mention of a big amount of funds need up front to organize and operate the new conglomerate. Furthermore, the Metro Manila experience was not really a good model to be excited about and to emulate.

Recently, however, the University of the Philippines in Mindanao (UP Min), together with the Philippine Center for Population and Development (PCPD), has embarked on the same complementation project but with an entirely different approach. UP Min asked the LGUs concerned to participate in a joint research undertaking entitled: "Developing Collaborative Research Between the Academe and the LGU Towards Addressing Metropolitan Issues of Davao." The project coordinator is Prof. Roberto P. Alabado III of the UP Min School of Management.

AS a first step, UP Min and PCPD facilitated a visioning workshop last year seeking to identify the commonalities amongst the LGUs. The metropolitan area is rapidly growing. As early as now, there is a need for the LGUs to collaborate on their common issues, problems and opportunities.

The workshop participants identified four common opportunities to pursue:

1) To be the center of trade in Southern Mindanao, the rest of the country, and the world; in particular to be the trading hub of BIMP-Eaga. 2) To be a prime alternative tourist destination competing in the national and international market for leisure and recreational travel. 3) To become an important location for investments in clean industries in agri-processing, information technology, tourism and recreation. 4) To become the education, training and human resource development center of Mindanao and eventually the Philippines.

There are however five common problems to be addressed: 1) the growing volume of solid waste. 2) The deterioration of the equality of Davao Gulf and the marine environment. 3) The increasing cost of inter-locality transport. 4) The threats to sustainability of cheap fresh water. 5) The external perceptions of uncertain peace and order.

During that visioning workshop, actions were recommended by the LGUs to sustain the dialogue and collaboration amongst themselves. At this point, the academe will play a very important role. Researches and project proposals must be developed to serve as common grounds for partnerships.

The PCPD and UP Min is facilitating this process to prepare the LGUs towards active collaboration.

It is good to note that Dacun (Davao Colleges and Universities Network) has also joined the project as a key partner. There has been some criticism regarding the irrelevance of the academe to the realities of the communities they are supposed to serve.

The active involvement of the academe in the metropolitinazination of Davao will enable the LGUs to avail themselves of the academe's expertise to develop better and effective networks.

By the end of this important and worthwhile project, when all the necessary researches and project proposals are done and endorsed to funding agencies, two great achievements will be attained: the much-needed complementation of the four LGUs, and the long-awaited collaboration and partnership of the LGU and the academe.

No need to worry about a tongue-twister development word. By then collaborative actions will speak louder than words.

Philippine Institute for Development Studies

DISCUSSION PAPER SERIES NO. 98-29
October 1998
The Research Information Staff, Philippine Institute for Development Studies
3rd Floor, NEDA sa Makati Building, 106 Amorsolo Street, Legaspi Village, Makati City, Philippines
Tel Nos: 8924059 and 8935705; Fax No: 8939589; E-mail: publications@pidsnet.pids.gov.ph
Or visit our website at http://www.pids.gov.ph
Ruben G. Mercado
In Search of Metropolitan Definitions:
Lessons from Metro Davao





[1. Introduction
Defining a metropolis should not be difficult, at least in the theoretical sense.
Angotti (1993) in writing a modern day perspective on metropolitanization in the world
has suggested a general rule-of- thumb in defining a metropolis or at least distinguishing
it from a city. In the context of the twentieth century, the term metropolis refers to large
urban settlements, usually crossing local jurisdictional boundaries, with at least one
million population. The term city, on the other hand, refers to medium-sized settlement
between 100,000 and one million population. Following this categorization, therefore,
settlements under 100,00 population are considered rural.


LEFT]3. Conclusion
The above analysis presented the three emerging definitions of Metro Davao and
evaluated the same based on the simple criteria for accurately defining settlements as
metropolis: a largely urban settlement with a population of at least a million and usually
extending beyond political jurisdictions. As have been articulated in the analysis, from
among the three references to Metro Davao, Metro Davao as defined as the whole area
of Davao City is the definitional model that meets such criteria. The second model
(Davao City plus neighboring municipalities) would also qualify but is still considered
prospective or just a potential possibility in view of the absence of immediate inter-urban
concerns at the present time. Also, a new finding is that, applying the theoretical
distinction between a city and a metropolis, Davao City has graduated from being a city
and has become a full-fledge metropolis in 1995. Thus, Davao City can already be
classified as a metropolitan city.
Given the high growth in population being experienced not only in Davao City but in
all of the Davao provinces especially in the urban areas, Gaffud (1997) has rightly
pointed out, that the DIDP can be “an initial vehicle in the promotion of cross-border
management of urban services”. Perhaps, in particular, there might also be a need to
develop a sub-component of the program for Metro Davao (i.e. Davao City) concerns. In
view of its current and future strategic role as the international trade center and gateway
to the Southern Pacific Rim particularly in the BIMP-EAGA, a distinct program must be
crafted to develop Metro Davao along the concept of a well-functioning and competitive
metropolis. It might be useful to develop a separate Metro Davao Development Master
Plan (Davao City concept) but anchored on the framework and broad strategies of the
DIDP.
The recent transformation of Davao City into a metropolis should not be seen only
as an urban redefinition. More importantly, it implies a need to shift the management
paradigm of the city towards a broader approach to urban management. That is, going
beyond the traditional city management towards metropolitan planning and
management. The development plan for the new metropolis must be able to provide a contemporary urban-management system (organisations, human resources, operational
systems and approaches) that will aid this transition process[/LEFT][I]



nyek mali diay ta..metro davao jud diay dapat....

haha! gravy! taga davao panaman tau... ambot uy!

dili pa man gud ko convinced na metro davao..even with this study..kay bihira ra man na ginagamit nga term

actually ako rin... haha
i still believe in what i think that toril should break to make davao a metro!
ikaw?

ganun din..pero ideally kanang 3 cities unta..if the 2nd and third district become separate cities..then that would be the time..(so ang nangyayari ngayon, by definition metro davao na since 1995, pero kita ra nagbuot buot na dili pa.hahaha.)

basta ako... hindi! haha
ikaw?! hindi! walang laglagan!
haha!
pero in one gameshow, it said that the 3metros in the rp are Cebu manila and ???
contestant: DAVAO
hos: MALI!... NAGA!

ganun din..pero ideally kanang 3 cities unta..if the 2nd and third district become separate cities..then that would be the time..(so ang nangyayari ngayon, by definition metro davao na since 1995, pero kita ra nagbuot buot na dili pa.hahaha.)

So Davao is "Unofficially" a Metro since 1995. We are only waiting for proper Legislation to officially recognize Davao as a Metropolitan Area. I think Davao in itself is very urbanized but what were waiting for is adjacent towns to become cities. By then Davao will truly be a Metro. :)

^^^ hahaha dapat nga 2 lang eh..mas mali ang game show

basta ako... hindi! haha
ikaw?! hindi! walang laglagan!
haha!
pero in one gameshow, it said that the 3metros in the rp are Cebu manila and ???
contestant: DAVAO
hos: MALI!... NAGA!

The case is that Naga has officially been designated a Metro because it had 14 adjacent towns. But according to global standards it should be flanked by cities not towns. Even Metro Naga as a whole is smaller than non-metro cities like Cagayan de Oro, Iloilo or Bacolod. Personally, I don't understand why Metro Naga was formed by the Gov't. It simply doesn't qualify as a metro in modern terms.

So Davao is "Unofficially" a Metro since 1995. We are only waiting for proper Legislation to officially recognize Davao as a Metropolitan Area. I think Davao in itself is very urbanized but what were waiting for is adjacent towns to become cities. By then Davao will truly be a Metro. :)


according to this study, metro davao daw since 1995 (3 points discussed 1. metrodavao as davao city alone 2. metro davao as davao city, panabo and sta cruz and 3 metro davao as DC, and its neighboring provinces)

pero nagsabot mi ni global not to call it metro until such the time nga matunga ang davao into three cities (kay maski i join pa ang panabo and sta cruz, it would instead make the so called "metro davao" more rural than urban man)


Philippine Institute for Development Studies

DISCUSSION PAPER SERIES NO. 98-29
October 1998
The Research Information Staff, Philippine Institute for Development Studies
3rd Floor, NEDA sa Makati Building, 106 Amorsolo Street, Legaspi Village, Makati City, Philippines
Tel Nos: 8924059 and 8935705; Fax No: 8939589; E-mail: publications@pidsnet.pids.gov.ph
Or visit our website at http://www.pids.gov.ph
Ruben G. Mercado
In Search of Metropolitan Definitions:
Lessons from Metro Davao





[1. Introduction
Defining a metropolis should not be difficult, at least in the theoretical sense.
Angotti (1993) in writing a modern day perspective on metropolitanization in the world
has suggested a general rule-of- thumb in defining a metropolis or at least distinguishing
it from a city. In the context of the twentieth century, the term metropolis refers to large
urban settlements, usually crossing local jurisdictional boundaries, with at least one
million population. The term city, on the other hand, refers to medium-sized settlement
between 100,000 and one million population. Following this categorization, therefore,
settlements under 100,00 population are considered rural.


LEFT]3. Conclusion
The above analysis presented the three emerging definitions of Metro Davao and
evaluated the same based on the simple criteria for accurately defining settlements as
metropolis: a largely urban settlement with a population of at least a million and usually
extending beyond political jurisdictions. As have been articulated in the analysis, from
among the three references to Metro Davao, Metro Davao as defined as the whole area
of Davao City is the definitional model that meets such criteria. The second model
(Davao City plus neighboring municipalities) would also qualify but is still considered
prospective or just a potential possibility in view of the absence of immediate inter-urban
concerns at the present time. Also, a new finding is that, applying the theoretical
distinction between a city and a metropolis, Davao City has graduated from being a city
and has become a full-fledge metropolis in 1995. Thus, Davao City can already be
classified as a metropolitan city.
Given the high growth in population being experienced not only in Davao City but in
all of the Davao provinces especially in the urban areas, Gaffud (1997) has rightly
pointed out, that the DIDP can be “an initial vehicle in the promotion of cross-border
management of urban services”. Perhaps, in particular, there might also be a need to
develop a sub-component of the program for Metro Davao (i.e. Davao City) concerns. In
view of its current and future strategic role as the international trade center and gateway
to the Southern Pacific Rim particularly in the BIMP-EAGA, a distinct program must be
crafted to develop Metro Davao along the concept of a well-functioning and competitive
metropolis. It might be useful to develop a separate Metro Davao Development Master
Plan (Davao City concept) but anchored on the framework and broad strategies of the
DIDP.
The recent transformation of Davao City into a metropolis should not be seen only
as an urban redefinition. More importantly, it implies a need to shift the management
paradigm of the city towards a broader approach to urban management. That is, going
beyond the traditional city management towards metropolitan planning and
management. The development plan for the new metropolis must be able to provide a contemporary urban-management system (organisations, human resources, operational
systems and approaches) that will aid this transition process

nagsabot ug buot buot... haha!

kita may kinakusgan...hahaha

haha...
cge gravy!
tulog nko!
nice talking! nyt!

i agree sera! basta...when u visit Davao...You'll never see the phrase "Welcome to Metro Davao". Davao City lang po! or Davao! ehehehehehehe

It's not us who keeps on tagging Davao as Metro Davao...Blame it on the weatherman!

ahahahahahah kidding lang......

same here in Cebu, it is only indicated welcome to Cebu or welcome to Cebu City, mas cooler pakinggan kaysa Metro Cebu na mainit at congested ang dating....

so while others insist on calling their cities "metro" kita na hinuong dapat tawagong metro ang mudili.hahaha, lain man gud paminawon..lets say naa tga MM na mag anhi, tapos they hear nga metro davao ang tawag..maka ana sila "metro?" diba?

Metropolitan Cebu Development Council

The Metropolitan Cebu Development Council was created by the RDC through Resolution No.117 (1997) and was patterned after the Metropolitan Manila Development Authority. It is mandated to formulate development plans, prepare programs and projects, and coordinate/monitor the implementation of programs and projects that address problems and concerns affecting Metro Cebu.

The MCDC is composed of the Provincial Governor of Cebu; the Mayors of the Cities of Cebu, Mandaue, Lapulapu and Talisay; and the Mayors of the Municipalities of Compostela, Liloan, Consolacion, Cordova, Minglanilla and Naga. The Governor of Cebu acts as Interim Chairman of the Council.

Last August 2005, the Regional Development Council (RDC 7) of Central Visayas, composed of all the governors of Region VII, the Metropolitan Cebu Development Council headed by the Cebu Provincial Governor and Local Government Units of Metro Cebu expanded the definition of Metro Cebu to include the towns of San Fernando and Carcar in the south and Danao City in the north [3].
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/4451/metrocebumap20063dq.gif

Metropolitan Manila Development Authority

The Metropolitan Manila Development Authority (MMDA) is the administrative body in charge of the metropolis' development, and solving perennial problems such as traffic management, flood control, garbage disposal and sewage maintenace. It closely coordinates with various other organizations such as the Pasig River Rehabilitation Commission (PRRC) and the Department of Public Works and Highways (DPWH), as well as the local government units of the component cities and municipalities. Its agency's head is appointed by the president, which is now presided by Chairman Bayani Fernando.

It is a member of Asian Network of Major Cities 21.

In a few years if Davao City is adjacent to at least 2 cities, it may be Officially recognized through an Approved Resolution & we will have a governing body for Davao's metro (Maybe MDDA-Metro Davao Dev't Authority). :)

but if davao city will annex the othe cities, that would make a less urban area since w/in the davao gulf region,davao ra man ang hghly urbanized thus defeating the purpose...the only highly urbanized city in the davao gulf is tagum..pero its too far to be agglomerated within the Metro davao concept..
for a metro davao to be realized (what the rush anyway?) dapat i divide ang city into three..sa ganun, seamless ang transition between one city to another.(tapos better services pa kay gamay lang i manage na area per mayor). eh kung i form ang metro davao in a concept that includes panabo and sta cruz? murag weird because of the distance and the fact na there is a large stetch of land na dili pa urban(in fat dili man urban ang panabo and sta cruz) so dapat davao city lang..no need to be a metro davao, unless nga (as i proposed) mabahin ang davao city into two or three :D

but if davao city will annex the othe cities, that would make a less urban area since w/in the davao gulf region,davao ra man ang hghly urbanized thus defeating the purpose...the only highly urbanized city in the davao gulf is tagum..pero its too far to be agglomerated within the Metro davao concept..
for a metro davao to be realized (what the rush anyway?) dapat i divide ang city into three..sa ganun, seamless ang transition between one city to another.(tapos better services pa kay gamay lang i manage na area per mayor). eh kung i form ang metro davao in a concept that includes panabo and sta cruz? murag weird because of the distance and the fact na there is a large stetch of land na dili pa urban(in fat dili man urban ang panabo and sta cruz) so dapat davao city lang..no need to be a metro davao, unless nga (as i proposed) mabahin ang davao city into two or three :D

Surrounding towns of Davao are growing so we expect cities soon. Its not for Davao city per se that a Metro area should be set up in the future but its for the "satelitte cities". Do you think Cebu City was the sole benificiary of being in a dev't zone like Metro Cebu. Its small cities like Mandaue or Lapu Lapu that benefited more because of more efficient allocation of funds & planning supervised by the MCDC.

ok so well have
Bajada city
Toril City
and... hm... DavaoCity(San Pedro Area)

Bajada City's the Best coz Lanang Sasa and Bajada

no..divide it accordingto the three congressional districts..meaning (3rd district being calinan and toril, 2nd being from the buhangin flyover to the northernmost tip of dc, while from ulas to bajada(up to flyover) is first district)

so while others insist on calling their cities "metro" kita na hinuong dapat tawagong metro ang mudili.hahaha, lain man gud paminawon..lets say naa tga MM na mag anhi, tapos they hear nga metro davao ang tawag..maka ana sila "metro?" diba?

lol. coz before we aimed for our city to be like MetroManila with dense buildings and population, but now we are experiencing the negative effects of a big city (coz I thought before nga inig heavy ang traffic or kung mas daghan ang sakyanan, mas progressive ang usa ka city pero karon nga grabe na kaayo ang taffic diri, mag cg lang nuon kog pamisti, pisti baya oi malate nasad ko ani, maka sala lang nuon ta nga wa sa lugar...hehe and also the congestion, the migration, pettty crimes, high cost of living that's why Cebu should prefer to be smaller than to be a giant metropolis coz we have not much resources to depend on unlike Davao) well! I personally wants Cebu to be a resort island than a big mega metro.

Please refer to earlier disccussions. We are from Skyscraper city forums and here we learn the "Proper" urbane terminologies. Sana wag tayo mag-padala sa weathermen or media who sensationalize things. Metro Davao isn't formed yet unlike Metro Manila (MMDA) & Metro Cebu (MCDA). As I say the word Metro is a term like a city, state or region.

@Sera: I'm aware of your earlier discussions. I am just stating a fact that Davao is a metropolis not what you learn from "proper" urbane terminologies. To quote Gravy_addict post: "...a new finding is that, applying the theoretical distinction between a city and a metropolis, Davao City has graduated from being a city and has become a full-fledge metropolis in 1995. Thus, Davao City can already be classified as a metropolitan city."

@gravy, salamat sa pinost mong Philippine Institute for Development Studies. I've been actually to Davao several times. The city has grown so fast for the past years and still there are plenty of land areas to spare because DC is REALLY so wide compared to Cebu and Manila.

but if davao city will annex the othe cities, that would make a less urban area since w/in the davao gulf region,davao ra man ang hghly urbanized thus defeating the purpose...the only highly urbanized city in the davao gulf is tagum..pero its too far to be agglomerated within the Metro davao concept..
for a metro davao to be realized (what the rush anyway?) dapat i divide ang city into three..sa ganun, seamless ang transition between one city to another.(tapos better services pa kay gamay lang i manage na area per mayor). eh kung i form ang metro davao in a concept that includes panabo and sta cruz? murag weird because of the distance and the fact na there is a large stetch of land na dili pa urban(in fat dili man urban ang panabo and sta cruz) so dapat davao city lang..no need to be a metro davao, unless nga (as i proposed) mabahin ang davao city into two or three :D

Iloilo City is in the same predicament as Davao City since there are no other cities within its immediate vicinity. They could have remained a metropolis if Iloilo City had not annexed what was once Jaro City. But even if Jaro is a separate city, "Metro Iloilo" still wouldn't make it to the list that the Manila based organization had published since they added another qualification that requires an agglomeration to have at least one million residents to be recognised as a metropolis. I think it is a really silly qualification though as the definition of a metropolitan area only requires a grouping of cities and towns that function or work together as a unit. There is no population requirement.

One other thing, legislation is not necessary to recognize a place as a metropolitan area. Legislation is only needed so that the cities and town could cooperate with each other in solving intercommunity problems like traffic, waste disposal, and other urban planning issues. If the cities and towns are functioning efficiently, why make a new legislative body? It'll only entail additional expenses in terms of salaries and other administrative expenditures.

^^ tumpak na tumpak. ang dili lang gyud ko kauyon is the centralize government. ambot basta mas ganahan ko sa federalismo. 100 years na ta aning centralize gov... cguro dapat testingan na nato ang federalism kay basin diri ra ta makagawas pagka 3rd world...

Depende mana....
Member man ko sa Citizens Movement for Federal Philippines...
cge me pangumpanya diri Cebu pag 2003 ana... ug sa mindanao...
naa pud hinoun negative side...
As of now man gud 5 ra ka regions ang self sufficient sa atung nasud...
COrdillera, NCR, Calabarzon, Region 7, Northern Mindanao...
unya kani nga NgA REGIONS cla man moy mu gasto para sa uban regions...
mao na iya negative side...

same here in Cebu, it is only indicated welcome to Cebu or welcome to Cebu City, mas cooler pakinggan kaysa Metro Cebu na mainit at congested ang dating....

Wa pa sad ko kita sign sa Cebu ng "Welcome to Metro Cebu"...

lol. coz before we aimed for our city to be like MetroManila with dense buildings and population, but now we are experiencing the negative effects of a big city (coz I thought before nga inig heavy ang traffic or kung mas daghan ang sakyanan, mas progressive ang usa ka city pero karon nga grabe na kaayo ang taffic diri, mag cg lang nuon kog pamisti, pisti baya oi malate nasad ko ani, maka sala lang nuon ta nga wa sa lugar...hehe and also the congestion, the migration, pettty crimes, high cost of living that's why Cebu should prefer to be smaller than to be a giant metropolis coz we have not much resources to depend on unlike Davao) well! I personally wants Cebu to be a resort island than a big mega metro.


haha, pag oranize na lang mo ug Cebu Death Squad, para mahadlok na mga criminal labi na mga ginagmay. bad trip bitaw nang traffic noh? sa pag sprawl sa Davao, maka experience gud ko usahay ug sobra one hour byahe gkan work to balay to think nga 10km+ lang ka layo akong byahe..mao usahay pag makakita ko ug wala nagatabok sa overpas masinghagan gud nako sa ka init sa ulo

I agree but there's a correction. Metro Cebu's Area is 51,000 hectares so Davao City is larger by 4.5 times only.


i think this claim (re: davao is 8 time bigger than cebu) refers to both cities alone as in Davao City is 8 time bigger than Cebu City and not the whole Metro Cebu)

Iloilo City is in the same predicament as Davao City since there are no other cities within its immediate vicinity. They could have remained a metropolis if Iloilo City had not annexed what was once Jaro City. But even if Jaro is a separate city, "Metro Iloilo" still wouldn't make it to the list that the Manila based organization had published since they added another qualification that requires an agglomeration to have at least one million residents to be recognised as a metropolis. I think it is a really silly qualification though as the definition of a metropolitan area only requires a grouping of cities and towns that function or work together as a unit. There is no population requirement.


i think 1 million is a good benchmark.it means you have a big city.remember the definition of a metrolitan area as a large city ith adjacent cities and towns..so what defines a large city?( you see, a city may be large as from its residents POV but what about that of people from other larger cities? would cebuanos consider dumaguete or bacolod city large?) so there is a population requirement as set by the study which is the one million mark.. so if a city only has half a million, its not large but medium sized. is is a city and not a metropolis


One other thing, legislation is not necessary to recognize a place as a metropolitan area. Legislation is only needed so that the cities and town could cooperate with each other in solving intercommunity problems like traffic, waste disposal, and other urban planning issues. If the cities and towns are functioning efficiently, why make a new legislative body? It'll only entail additional expenses in terms of salaries and other administrative expenditures.


what i was pointing out earlier on the case of a metro davao..davao is a metropolis, but it is not a metropolitan area as the city does not have adjoining cities .Plus there is no legislated body that governs the metropolitan area. they name an area metro by legislation.meaning there is a cooperatoin among the member cities. like MMDA and MCDC.


so two points..

by definition, if a city reaches one million..it is a metropolis..but not necessary a metropolitan area.as is the case with davao..it is a metropolis but not a metropolitan area and as such, there is no need to call it metro davao

by legislation.like cebu, the term "metro cebu" is called for as it is legislated.meaning the areas under metro cebu, like talisay, danao, mandaue atc are under the metropolitan cebu development council to which there is a legislated cooperation between the member cities and towns under metro cebu and they are managed by a single body..so cebu city is not a metropolis by population, but it is a metro cebu, together with its co-member cities under the metropolitan cebu development council

Wa pa sad ko kita sign sa Cebu ng "Welcome to Metro Cebu"...

Remember "Welcome To Metro Cebu" is not only applicable as a welcome sign for Cebu City per se but also for other cities like Mandaue, Toledo, Danao or Lapu Lapu. :)

@Sera: I'm aware of your earlier discussions. I am just stating a fact that Davao is a metropolis not what you learn from "proper" urbane terminologies. To quote Gravy_addict post: "...a new finding is that, applying the theoretical distinction between a city and a metropolis, Davao City has graduated from being a city and has become a full-fledge metropolis in 1995. Thus, Davao City can already be classified as a metropolitan city."

the question is "Did Metro Davao become officially recognized under legislation?, Did Davao ever have an Overall Governing Body like the MMDA (Metro Manila Dev't Authority) or MCDS (Metro Cebu Dev't Council)? or was Metro Davao created under a Resolution approved by both upper & lower houses?

The answer to the three basic questions are no. Davao is only a Metropolis through theory not Law. Therefore it isn't Official like Metro Cebu or Manila.

As i understand it, it doesnt require any law to be a metropolis..its just a definition..once a city gets into the 1 million mark, it becomes a metropolis..

however, it requires a law/legislation to form a functional metropolitan area ( combination of 2 or more cities)

like i said, davao is a metropolis but it isnt a functional metropolitan area (where 2 or more cities sooperate and are managed/covered by a single governing body)

thats why i said i dont subscribe to the title metro davao as even if it is a metropolis ( or a large city, to make th term longer :)) it is not in cooperation (by law) with its neighboring towns/cities to make a metropolitan area

As i understand it, it doesnt require any law to be a metropolis..its just a definition..once a city gets into the 1 million mark, it becomes a metropolis..

however, it requires a law/legislation to form a functional metropolitan area ( combination of 2 or more cities)

like i said, davao is a metropolis but it isnt a functional metropolitan area (where 2 or more cities sooperate and are managed/covered by a single governing body)

That's the point. Davao is only a "theoretical" Metropolitan area. If Davao functions like a Metropolis inwardly & outwardly towards its neighbors, then it is a "Functional/Legitimate" metropolis. Therefore, the Gov't will recognize this "Metropolitan Area" through the proper legislation. The thing with Davao is that not all agree on its "Metrohood" unlike that of Cebu or Manila. Davao will only become a true Metro if no FLAWS are found in it's Metrohood. :)

no, i think theres a difference between a metropolis and a functional metropolitan area.

as i understand it lang ha, a metropolis is just a city..pero with a very large population (much as newyork or singapore is a metropolis) while a metropolitan area, in the philippines setting, is one that is legislated (w/ the corressponding metropolitan devt authoriy to manage the member cities and towns)

so davao is a metropolis though it cannot be called metro davao since its not in cooperation with its adjoining cities to form a functional metropolitan area

the question is "Did Metro Davao become officially recognized under legislation?, Did Davao ever have an Overall Governing Body like the MMDA (Metro Manila Dev't Authority) or MCDS (Metro Cebu Dev't Council)? or was Metro Davao created under a Resolution approved by both upper & lower houses?

The answer to the three basic questions are no. Davao is only a Metropolis through theory not Law. Therefore it isn't Official like Metro Cebu or Manila.


If I may but in, Davao's add -on trapping as a metro was never self-proclaimed. History would clearly tell, the metro title has been attached to it 11 years ago, by definition re: per population requirement, Davao so deserves the title hands down minus the support of any small neighboring cities -and all by itself, but Davao never took it seriously. What the heck, we are more concerned with a lot of more pressing issues than mere sugar coats.

Now if you insist it's not a metro as you are harping then blame it to the media and the government and Davao's fast urban sprawl and population swell.

Trouble with us Filipinos is we seem not to swallow facts and what's not if at all not beneficial to us or to whatever we are rooting for.

Sadly though, your judgement on this issue is merely based on what you have heard sans what you have seen as you have never set foot in Davao.

To me, by all indications Davao is a true Metro City with or without the current Metro Davao agglomeration (which includes Panabo City, Digos City, Samal City And Municipality of Sta. Cruz). But who the heck cares, if Metro Manila is the shape of things to come for Davao as a Metro then forget it.

We would rather want a status quo in Davao Region than follow in the footsteps of the chaotic MM.

edited kay kay sera man diay tung quote ni pareng davaoeagle :D

edited kay kay sera man diay tung quote ni pareng davaoeagle :D

he hw, i PM na lang sa ako imong comment bahala against sa akong posting. LOL

una nko gi post kay


hoist taga davao jud bya ko ha...

sabay quote atong ingon nimo na

Sadly though, your judgement on this issue is merely based on what you have heard sans what you have seen as you have never set foot in Davao.


unya kay para kay sera man diay to..so wow mali! haha

una nko gi post kay


hoist taga davao jud bya ko ha...

sabay quote atong ingon nimo na

Sadly though, your judgement on this issue is merely based on what you have heard sans what you have seen as you have never set foot in Davao.


unya kay para kay sera man diay to..so wow mali! haha

ha ha, tuo na gyud ko taga Wadab ka uy. Pero seriously speaking, ang mga dagko ug prestigious institutions na man gud ang nag declare sa Davao as Metro and for me kinsa ba ta nga mo question ana? he he, pero like I said...whatever!

kay davao is a metropolis man jud..mao tawag cya ug metro-city sa AIM

ako lang dili nagatawg ug metro davao kay mas appropriate man ghapon nga davao city ra ang tawag kay dili pa man tingali kinahanglan tawagon cya nga metro davao..cguro kung tunga tungaon na ang durianburg mao na

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D

wrong posting

kay davao is a metropolis man jud..mao tawag cya ug metro-city sa AIM

ako lang dili nagatawg ug metro davao kay mas appropriate man ghapon nga davao city ra ang tawag kay dili pa man tingali kinahanglan tawagon cya nga metro davao..cguro kung tunga tungaon na ang durianburg mao na

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D

right on, let's leave it to the higher authorities to stick that name into our city. LOL

right on, let's leave it to the higher authorities to stick that name into our city. LOL
Why don't Davao officials consolidate all cities and towns surrounding DC and form an umbrella agency to perform plan, monitor and coordinate functions, and in the process to exercise regulatory and supervisory authority over the delivery of metro-wide services within "Metro Davao"? This is for the good of everyone in DC and outlying cities and towns din, di ba? I feel DC, being the largest city in the Philippines (land area), needs to move on too, right? :)

Why don't Davao officials consolidate all cities and towns surrounding DC and form an umbrella agency to perform plan, monitor and coordinate functions, and in the process to exercise regulatory and supervisory authority over the delivery of metro-wide services within "Metro Davao"? This is for the good of everyone in DC and outlying cities and towns din, di ba? I feel DC, being the largest city in the Philippines (land area), needs to move on too, right? :)

OT: Regarding the consolidation of development plans for Davao Region, the provinces, cities, and towns (local government units) in Davao have already created the DIDP or (Davao Integrated Development Plan).

Under DIDP, the masterplan includes the development of the provinces of Davao Oriental, Davao del Norte, Compostela Valley province, Davao del Sur the cities of Davao, Garden Island City of Samal, Panabo, Digos and Tagum into an integrated tourism and agro-industrial economy. The DIDP had already drafted its long term plan (upto 2015).

Currently, the agency's executive director is Davao City's Wendel Avisado.

right on, let's leave it to the higher authorities to stick that name into our city. LOL
officially recognized in the philippines as metropolis or metropolitan city and it's legitamcy is also recognized internationally. i agree with grayv addict his view on what a metro davao is. it is a misnomer the way i understand it too. but i wouldn'tbe surprised if it is always mislabeled by many bec in my opinion, davao could easily become one if it wants to give up it's 3 political districts to stand as independent cities because each district imo are highly qualif to become city. even growth centres like buhangin, matina, toril, agdao and others are qualif too, bec they are economically vialble imo. and these are also population centres. so, with downtown as central or main city, it can easily become metro davao.

right on, let's leave it to the higher authorities to stick that name into our city. LOL

Yes, if the higher authorities legitimize it as Metro Davao then be it. Remember we are living in the Philippines. A country that decides for its own. If by international standard Davao is a Metro Davao then internationally that's it. But Davao is under Phil. jurisdiction so if by law only Metro Cebu, Manila are the legitimate metro agglomerations then its the only "Official Metropolitan Areas". :)

Yes, if the higher authorities legitimize it as Metro Davao then be it. Remember we are living in the Philippines. A country that decides for its own. If by international standard Davaa is a Metro Davao then internationally that's it. But Davao is under Phil. jurisdiction so if by law only Metro Cebu, Manila are the legitimate metro agglomerations then its the only "Official Metropolitan Areas". :)

i don't get your point here. looks like an oxymoron to me, sorry.

i don't get your point here. looks like an oxymoron to me, sorry.

The point is simple...Up to now we can't say Metro Davao because there's no "Functional Metropolitan Agglomeration of Cities" in Davao

^^ lain man paminawon ang metro davao hehehe. mas gusto nako davao city lang. from now on let's not call davao city in ssc "metro davao". wala man ta kadungog ug "metro newyork" so mas ok sa ako ng davao city kay mas social para sa ako hehe. kung "metro" meaning daghan cities, mas gwapo nang 1 city lang pero kung mosuroy ka masaag man pod ka sa kadako hahaha. mao nang nag post ko ug 11 business districts sa akong signature to give outsiders the idea how big davao's urban areas mora napod na sya ug 11 cities by philippine standard. sa google earth sa davao wala pa gani naapil ang toril ug calinan nga mas urban pa man gani na sa tangub city or gingoog city.

^^^ my point exactly

grabe pu da if mas urban ang toril ug calinan sa tagum oi..havent been to tagum pero daghan nag sulti nindot daw didi2 :D

^^ lain man paminawon ang metro davao hehehe. mas gusto nako davao city lang. from now on let's not call davao city in ssc "metro davao". wala man ta kadungog ug "metro newyork" so mas ok sa ako ng davao city kay mas social para sa ako hehe. kung "metro" meaning daghan cities, mas gwapo nang 1 city lang pero kung mosuroy ka masaag man pod ka sa kadako hahaha. mao nang nag post ko ug 11 business districts sa akong signature to give outsiders the idea how big davao's urban areas mora napod na sya ug 11 cities by philippine standard. sa google earth sa davao wala pa gani naapil ang toril ug calinan nga mas urban pa man gani na sa tangub city or gingoog city.

Lol, nakakatawa nga ang obsesion ng pinoys sa term Metro. Akala nila it elevates the status of a city. Tignan mo ang Greater Tokyo, it has the world's most Populous Megalopolis of 50 million people pero you cant hear them say "Metro Tokyo" or "Mega Tokyo", instead "Greater Tokyo". As for Davao I agree that Davao City can be considered 5 cities in one so you can say that's a great achievement. To compliment Davao further I believe the city has the most balanced dev't among all Philippine cities :)

Why don't Davao officials consolidate all cities and towns surrounding DC and form an umbrella agency to perform plan, monitor and coordinate functions, and in the process to exercise regulatory and supervisory authority over the delivery of metro-wide services within "Metro Davao"? This is for the good of everyone in DC and outlying cities and towns din, di ba? I feel DC, being the largest city in the Philippines (land area), needs to move on too, right? :)

Davao City is pacing itself carefully. Davao City will continue to grow & so will the outlying cities. If there is already significant trade volume between Davao City & adjacent cities, the gov't will now step in to form a single governing body like the MMDA or MCDC to foster Davao+nearby cities into a single Economic Block. Great things are ahead for Durian Country :)

^^^ my point exactly

grabe pu da if mas urban ang toril ug calinan sa tagum oi..havent been to tagum pero daghan nag sulti nindot daw didi2 :D


Junax said TANGUB CITY and not Tagum City. Tangub is a very sleepy, rusty city in Northern Mindanao which raises a lot of eyebrows when it was converted into a city.

Of course our Tagum City is way, way more urbanized than most younger cities we have today.

Lol, nakakatawa nga ang obsesion ng pinoys sa term Metro. Akala nila it elevates the status of a city. Tignan mo ang Greater Tokyo, it has the world's most Populous egalopolis of 50 million people pero you cant hear them say "Metro Tokyo" or "Mega Tokyo", instead "Greater Tokyo". As for Davao I agree that Davao City can be considered 5 cities in one so you can say that's a great achievement. To compliment Davao further I believe the city has the most balanced dev't among all Philippine cities :)

Just to score you a little bit on this one. If you take a journey down this thread, most Davaoenos are not serious about this title rather it's something that powers-that-be imposes on it. You say "akala nila it elevates the status of a city", as if you are not guilty of it as well as you have been harping on Metro CDO in this thread. There's never a iota of an instance we in Davao hunger for such a name and we don't have to beg for it, it just came as natural as it could be in the light of size both of te population and urban sprawl. The "others" that you refer to could easily point to the cities under the 3 big metropolises such as Manila, Cebu, and Davao.

Junax said TANGUB CITY and not Tagum City. Tangub is a very sleepy, rusty city in Northern Mindanao which raises a lot of eyebrows when it was converted into a city.

Of course our Tagum City is way, way more urbanized than most younger cities we have today.

nyek, i thought typo ra tung gi ingon nya nga tangub (havent heard of that place (tangub city) pa man gud..sorry :))


oi can anyone please post pix of downtown tagum..la pa jud ko ka ad2 ba..nakatulog man gud ko on our way to comval, unya gabii na pag agi namo balik tagum..sa highway ra pa jud

Just to score you a little bit on this one. If you take a journey down this thread, most Davaoenos are not serious about this title rather it's something that powers-that-be imposes on it. You say "akala nila it elevates the status of a city", as if you are not guilty of it as well as you have been harping on Metro CDO in this thread. There's never a iota of an instance we in Davao hunger for such a name and we don't have to beg for it, it just came as natural as it could be in the light of size both of te population and urban sprawl. The "others" that you refer to could easily point to the cities under the 3 big metropolises such as Manila, Cebu, and Davao.

In this thread I am implying "Future" metropolises so its natural I did mention future Metro CDO, Iloilo or Bacolod. The case about Davaos Metrohood was discussed as a current issue because as youve said Davao satisfied some criteria of being a Metro :)

Anyway, the response of Davaoenos in this thread just shows your initiative in promoting your city. No wonder Davao has come this far, its people are so pro-active! Kudos :grouphug:

The point is simple...Up to now we can't say Metro Davao because there's no "Functional Metropolitan Agglomeration of Cities" in Davao

Sorry but your previous statement was contradicting and could have been simply expressed in the way you said it here.

Not to pick on you personally as we are just engaging ourselves in a "healthy" discussion here and as a Davaoeno and a well-informed citizen ( modesty aside) I beg to disagree that Davao has no Metro grouping of cities. Again, this is not to mean we thirst for the title but just so you would know where we are in this entire dialectics.

Davao, IGACOS, and PANABO cities and the industrial municipality of Sta. Cruz at the tip of southern Davao City are parts of the Metro Davao grouping. I'm not sure if that is official though Konsehal in the Davao thread mentioned the efforts officially done in line with this.

See why blurted Davaoenos are not serious in this name because if we were then we could have pursued the title without let up as opposed to just being callous and disinterested.

One last shot, I'm just wondering why some people want to appear more authoritative than highly-placed intellectuals and perstigious official or private institutions whose job is to use their "expertise" in designating what is and what's not.

nyek, i thought typo ra tung gi ingon nya nga tangub (havent heard of that place (tangub city) pa man gud..sorry :))


oi can anyone please post pix of downtown tagum..la pa jud ko ka ad2 ba..nakatulog man gud ko on our way to comval, unya gabii na pag agi namo balik tagum..sa highway ra pa jud

You should come and see Tagum for yourself Gravy, it really is a little brother of Davao City, what with its spanking, squeaky clean roads replete with lights, well-connected road network, big Overland Transpo Terminal-cum-Wet Market-cum-Agri Trading Centre. They now have the biggest cathedral in VISMIN or the whole nation. They boast of an NCCC mall and 2 Gaisano Dept Stores and 2 other big dept stores such as Grande and Buenas. Their hospital are massive and modern such as the Davao Regional Hospital, Tagum Doctors Hosp, MMG Hosp, and Bishop Regan Mem Hosp. It is a medium-size highly urbanized city I suppose.

Abskess comes from Tagum and he showed us some awesome pics in the previous thread.

Davao, IGACOS, and PANABO cities and the industrial municipality of Sta. Cruz at the tip of southern Davao City are parts of the Metro Davao grouping. I'm not sure if that is official though Konsehal in the Davao thread mentioned the efforts officially done in line with this.

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ive seen that in a website (philippines center for population studies ata)

they refer to the cities of davao, IGACOS, PAnabo and Sta cruz as metro davao..but its just an informal gouping they use to refer to the area not really official gouping as there is no body governing the area (metro davao) pa man.

Sorry but your previous statement was contradicting and could have been simply expressed in the way you said it here.

Not to pick on you personally as we are just engaging ourselves in a "healthy" discussion here and as a Davaoeno and a well-informed citizen ( modesty aside) I beg to disagree that Davao has no Metro grouping of cities. Again, this is not to mean we thirst for the title but just so you would know where we are in this entire dialectics.

Davao, IGACOS, and PANABO cities and the industrial municipality of Sta. Cruz at the tip of southern Davao City are parts of the Metro Davao grouping. I'm not sure if that is official though Konsehal in the Davao thread mentioned the efforts officially done in line with this.

See why blurted Davaoenos are not serious in this name because if we were then we could have pursued the title without let up as opposed to just being callous and disinterested.

One last shot, I'm just wondering why some people want to appear more authoritative than highly-placed intellectuals and perstigious official or private institutions whose job is to use their "expertise" in designating what is and what's not.

But is Igacos & Panabo's urban areas contiguous with Davao's? Are there any intermendiate small towns between the said cities. I looked up Wikipedia kasi & I only found listings of Metro Cebu & Metro Manila.

To answer your last question, those people who you say are authoritative usually were given the authority. For example our Gov't officials won't offically legislate the legitimacy of Metro Manila & Metro Cebu if they didn't ask the consultation of International expertise. Forming the MMDA or MCDC is a "Serious" matter that will economically affect the people within its jurisdiction.

A final note to those seemingly imposing people "Its Nice to be important but its more important to be nice :) "

here is he link nga pala re: metro davao grouping for DC, Panabo, IGACOS and Sta. Cruz

http://www.pcpd.ph/grants/locator.asp#

however, i think its kinda weird since these areas arent urban per se and anexing them would just make Metro davao more rural than urban.

But is Igacos & Panabo's urban areas contiguous with Davao's. Are there any intermendiate small towns between the said cities. I looked up Wikipedia kasi & I only found listings of Metro Cebu & Metro Manila.

You can never find that in google as there is really no effort coming from Davaoenos to push for that. Yes, Davao and Panabo are next to each other if that's what you mean, IGACOS is an island city accross (6 min ride on outrigger boat) from the mainland Davao, Sta. Cruz is next to south Davao City's last business district of Toril.

here is he link nga pala re: metro davao grouping for DC, Panabo, IGACOS and Sta. Cruz

http://www.pcpd.ph/grants/locator.asp#

however, i think its kinda weird since these areas arent urban per se and anexing them would just make Metro davao more rural than urban.

thanks :) True, Metro Cebu's adjacent cities of Mandaue, Danao & Lapu-lapu are urbanized. Anyway Panabo, Igacos etc will soon develop more to complement Davao's Metro in the future

pero if a functioning metro davao (if realized) annexes IGACOS, Panabo and Sta. Cruz ( and even TAgum and Digos) that would be hard to manage right? seeing that Davao city alone is very big..a metro davao stretching from Digos to tagum (worse comes to worst, since most prolly magpa apil man jud na) will be more that a hundred kilometers long, and will take 3 hours to cross ( 1 hour to digos to davao..on ehour to cross davao city alone and another hour from Dc to tagum)

pero if a functioning metro davao (if realized) annexes IGACOS, Panabo and Sta. Cruz ( and even TAgum and Digos) that would be hard to manage right? seeing that Davao city alone is very big..a metro davao stretching from Digos to tagum (worse comes to worst, since most prolly magpa apil man jud na) will be more that a hundred kilometers long, and will take 3 hours to cross ( 1 hour to digos to davao..on ehour to cross davao city alone and another hour from Dc to tagum)

The more Davao needs an overseeing comitee like MMDA. Davao's actual urban area is far less complicated than Manilas. Can you imagine the complexity of Metro Manila? Mas mahirap i-manage yung area na yun kung walang MMDA. ganun din yung Cebu.

But is Igacos & Panabo's urban areas contiguous with Davao's? Are there any intermendiate small towns between the said cities. I looked up Wikipedia kasi & I only found listings of Metro Cebu & Metro Manila.

To answer your last question, those people who you say are authoritative usually were given the authority. For example our Gov't officials won't offically legislate the legitimacy of Metro Manila & Metro Cebu if they didn't ask the consultation of International expertise. Forming the MMDA or MCDC is a "Serious" matter that will economically affect the people within its jurisdiction.

A final note to those seemingly imposing people "Its Nice to be important but its more important to be nice :) "

Metros Manila and Cebu are out of the question here. I hope you know what you are talking about. There was probably an effort from amongst them to graduate their cities to metrohood and this was through local legislation that would involve the LGUs within the supposed grouping. I doubt though they had to ask or consult international expertise for apporoval to effect the changes as this is an entirely domestic affair. Yes we may look up to model cities and prototypes but I believe we can pursue this endeavour without foreign intervention or recognition.

I don't know where to place your final note though in this discussion, at the very least.

Metros Manila and Cebu are out of the question here. I hope you know what you are talking about. There was probably an effort from amongst them to graduate their cities to metrohood and this was through local legislation that would involve the LGUs within the supposed grouping. I doubt though they had to ask or consult international expertise for apporoval to effect the changes as this is an entirely domestic affair. Yes we may look up to model cities and prototypes but I believe we can pursue this endeavour without foreign intervention or recognition.

I don't know where to place your final note though in this discussion, at the very least.

Metro Manila & Cebu are directly in the question because were talking about official Metros here & were trying to disect the criteria they garned to achieve such. With regards to forming the MMDA or MCDC, they are very big legislative measures affecting millions of people. If a single important building needs the international consultant expertise then without doubt forming a big Metropolian Supervising Comittee needed the advise of the ADB or other international agencies before they were formed. As you know the Philippine Metropolitan experience is still new compared to that of the West or Japan.

Yes the Philipppines is SOVEREIGN but that doesnt mean we cant seek the expertise of more experienced or developed soceities in the world.

pero if a functioning metro davao (if realized) annexes IGACOS, Panabo and Sta. Cruz ( and even TAgum and Digos) that would be hard to manage right? seeing that Davao city alone is very big..a metro davao stretching from Digos to tagum (worse comes to worst, since most prolly magpa apil man jud na) will be more that a hundred kilometers long, and will take 3 hours to cross ( 1 hour to digos to davao..on ehour to cross davao city alone and another hour from Dc to tagum)

This could very well be the bone of contention here. The size of the whole agglomeration makes it difficult to manage. And from what I gathered, the one thing that makes this an impossible eventuality is no mayor wants to have a governor (as the case so requires) lording over them instead of them being the only one who calls the shots in their own turf. I can't imagine Mayor Digong having to report to whoever it is in running DC.

The more Davao needs an overseeing comitee like MMDA. Davao's actual urban area is far less complicated than Manilas. Can you imagine the complexity of Metro Manila? Mas mahirap i-manage yung area na yun kung walang MMDA. ganun din yung Cebu.


I know MM is far more comlicated than the metro davao scenario i was talking about..my lang naman is the length of the stretch from Digos to Tagum.. or even Panabo to Sta. Cruz for that matter, is too long. Thus, it wont be like an MM setting na people go to makati from Qc as if they just went from Matina to Lanang. :) point is, if that area will be realized as Metro Davao,as opposed to having davao city divided into three ( by congressional districts) i doubt it people would conduct business in an inter-city basis (well for now)

Metro Manila & Cebu are directly in the question because were talking about official Metros here & were trying to disect the criteria they garned to achieve such. With regards to forming the MMDA or MCDC, they are very big legislative measures affecting millions of people. If a single important building needs the international consultant expertise then without doubt forming a big Metropolian Supervising Comittee needed the advise of the ADB or other international agencies before they were formed. As you know the Philippine Metropolitan experience is still new compared to that of the West or Japan.

Yes the Philipppines is SOVEREIGN but that doesnt mean we cant seek the expertise of more experienced or developed soceities in the world.

You have muddled the discussion all the more here. When I said out of the question, I meant their case is a much different case than Davao's that making them the prototypes (and as with me, i hope not) would not augur well for the Davao scenario. Yes, absolutely they are metros in the real sense of the word, no question about that.

To say we have to wait for international approval is way too overboard. ADB, yes as they, in some but not all cases fund some projects involving LGUs but to say they have to dip their hands into the legislation and influence the whole decision process is way out of context.

I know MM is far more comlicated than the metro davao scenario i was talking about..my lang naman is the length of the stretch from Digos to Tagum.. or even Panabo to Sta. Cruz for that matter, is too long. Thus, it wont be like an MM setting na people go to makati from Qc as if they just went from Matina to Lanang. :) point is, if that area will be realized as Metro Davao,as opposed to having davao city divided into three ( by congressional districts) i doubt it people would conduct business in an inter-city basis (well for now)

I do hope if they form a Functional Metro Davao agglomeration, the city will have a good mass transit system for less pollution. Naku, 1am na pala (time flies talaga kung maganda discussions) , sige sign of muna ako....for now :runaway:

You have muddled the discussion all the more here. When I said out of the question, I meant their case is a much different case than Davao's that making them the prototypes (and as with me, i hope not) would not augur well for the Davao scenario. Yes, absolutely they are metros in the real sense of the word, no question about that.

To say we have to wait for international approval is way too overboard. ADB, yes as they, in some but not all cases funds some projects involving LGUs but to say they have to dip their hands into the legislation and influence the whole decision process is way out of context.

lol...You do know the difference between "Consultation" & "Direct intervention". Nung sinabi ko na kailangan ng consultation, that means we need an input of MERE INFORMATION from the international expertise on urban matters. Does it hurt na matuto naman tayo sa years of experience nila about the fields of urban management?

Tsaka about Metro Manila & Cebu I was only suggesting that we refer to the basic criteria they satisfied to be a Metro. Example of BASIC criteria is (a. Is the population of the Metro Area above 1 million, b. Do they have functional relationship with outlying cities that may be considerd part of the proposed Metro etc.) Basic criteria is a general standard that should be the parameter of every city. We are not talking about the Instance of how MM or Cebu became metros.

pero if a functioning metro davao (if realized) annexes IGACOS, Panabo and Sta. Cruz ( and even TAgum and Digos) that would be hard to manage right? seeing that Davao city alone is very big..a metro davao stretching from Digos to tagum (worse comes to worst, since most prolly magpa apil man jud na) will be more that a hundred kilometers long, and will take 3 hours to cross ( 1 hour to digos to davao..on ehour to cross davao city alone and another hour from Dc to tagum)

We won't have any choice but to slice Davao up.We might see Agdao City, Buhangin City, Matina City and the Forested Uplands of Calinan-Kapatagan (F.*.*.K) if i may add... :D.

But it's also the same as Butuan to CDO na rin.

daghanang slice ana oi.. i propose divide dc lang according to the three congressional districs..meaning Davao City, Buhangin City and Toril City :)

Junax said TANGUB CITY and not Tagum City. Tangub is a very sleepy, rusty city in Northern Mindanao which raises a lot of eyebrows when it was converted into a city.

Of course our Tagum City is way, way more urbanized than most younger cities we have today.

LOLS. Is that so? So the creation of Gingoog also raised a lot of eyebrows diay?

daghanang slice ana oi.. i propose divide dc lang according to the three congressional districs..meaning Davao City, Buhangin City and Toril City :)

I also think so, but maayo mam pod to retain the Davao City as it is until it reaches a population of 5 million. We can't lose to Puerto Princesa as the largest city in terms of area.

you have a point...
pero I think Cebu in a way is helping Davao's Economy, also with Davao helping Cebu, VIS-a-Vis... there is always room for trade and business is just around waiting... mas daghan trade partners... the better man...

When it comes to manila naman without Visayas and Mindanao...
I think they will crumble... mag-lisud naman gani nga halus tanang resources padung na sa ilaha, mga infrastructure projects ilaha, halos tanan ilaha na... Exports from Visayas and Mindanao is aroud 60%... Unsaon na lang ug mubuwag ag Visayas ug Mindanao...

Pero I think it will not happen... A I said... Mas daghan... Happy ang tanan...
Ambot sad ug kauyon ka...

Which leads the question to...

What if Visayas and Mindanao actually becomes countries? Will our envisioned SSC metro-cities still be on the rise?

its just a title after all..id rather na mas maayo pagka manage sa city :)

LOLS. Is that so? So the creation of Gingoog also raised a lot of eyebrows diay?

this is a bit off topic but I believe the government should review its policies regarding the conversion of municipalities into chartered component cities.

over the past 8 years, we saw the creation of cities, some even thought not 'yet' qualified.....

the League of Cities of the Philippines has come with this issue as the creation of many cities (some I guess haphazardly) have burdened the share of their IRA.

^^ Correct. I think it's like the controversy made when Cebu Province was undecidedly suggested to be "sliced" up like Cebu del Sur, Cebu Del Norte or Cebu Oriental...

I also think so, but maayo mam pod to retain the Davao City as it is until it reaches a population of 5 million. We can't lose to Puerto Princesa as the largest city in terms of area.

Anyway if Davao is divided it will be overtaken by Puerto Princessa (1490 sq. km) & Zamboanga City (1480 sq. km) as the larger cities.

Actually if you slice Davao int 3 it could be better managed. Anyway, the distinction as the Philippines Largest City isn't important.

LOLS. Is that so? So the creation of Gingoog also raised a lot of eyebrows diay?


you bet!

"Anyway if Davao is divided it will be overtaken by Puerto Princessa (1490 sq. km) & Zamboanga City (1480 sq. km) as the larger cities."


There was a proposal to make that part outside of Zamboanga City proper to create a new province to be called Zamboanga Hermosa.

"Anyway if Davao is divided it will be overtaken by Puerto Princessa (1490 sq. km) & Zamboanga City (1480 sq. km) as the larger cities."

Is there already a formal proposal to divide Davao City into more cities?


There was a proposal to make that part outside of Zamboanga City proper to create a new province to be called Zamboanga Hermosa.

Lol, how many times would they divide the Zamboanga Peninsula? At first it was just Zamboanga del Norte and del Sur and further on, Zamboanga Sibugay rose. And now, Zamboanga Hermosa? :?

Is there already a formal proposal to divide Davao City into more cities?

so far, only toril is very eager to separate from davao city. if it will be divided based on commercial districts, i guess:

1. bajada-lanang
2. buhangin-sasa
3. agdao
4. toril
5. calinan-tugbok
6. downtown
7. matina-ulas-maa

are the best divisions. but for davaoeños... one davao city is the best, that's why proposals like this can not survive even in the first reading.

i heard it was the 2nd distirct (buhangin, lanang to the davao-panabo baoundary) that would be separated, whic i think is more feasible as it is more well of than the 3rd district (where toril and calinan is)

actually, ii will be advantageuous kay ang transactions na i handel sa city hall mabawasan so faster ang transactions (siguro)

Lol, how many times would they divide the Zamboanga Peninsula? At first it was just Zamboanga del Norte and del Sur and further on, Zamboanga Sibugay rose. And now, Zamboanga Hermosa? :?[/QUOTE]

I do think that idea would benefit Zamboanga City. Zamboanga City has lots of land to spare. They have 1,480 sq.km. of land. Transactions would be quicker within the city and Zamboanga will have the chance to boom once more and restore it's economic pre-eminence in Mindanao :)

This is an ideal megacity we need to emulate in the Philippines. A small city of China's standards but progress and environment preservation are very evident in all aspects. If we dream of future mega-metros or cities, Xiamen is the ONE!!

Xiamen City (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=4435951&postcount=1)

This is an ideal megacity we need to emulate in the Philippines. A small city of China's standards but progress and environment preservation are very evident in all aspects. If we dream of future mega-metros or cities, Xiamen is the ONE!!

Xiamen City (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=4435951&postcount=1)

That's where my father came from. Xiamen is also known as Amoy internationally, has transformed itself from a rural area to an ultra-modern metropolis. They have some corruption in their provincial government but still, it was able to recover itself on its own.
To compare the old photos of Amoy to the new ones is just so unreal.

http://tinypic.com/5vqikx

30 years from now, can The Philippines have a mega-metro? Maybe so, but during that time, others will have a different motif on mega-structures.

That's where my father came from. Xiamen is also known as Amoy internationally, has transformed itself from a rural area to an ultra-modern metropolis. They have some corruption in their provincial government but still, it was able to recover itself on its own.
To compare the old photos of Amoy to the new ones is just so unreal.

http://tinypic.com/5vqikx

30 years from now, can The Philippines have a mega-metro? Maybe so, but during that time, others will have a different motif on mega-structures.
oh gosh!!

it's beautiful!! I hope davao city will be like this!!

mega davao? hehe!! hope so!

Sweet Tooth (http://zhenmei.blogspot.com/2005_06_01_zhenmei_archive.html)
"Xiamen is like the Davao to Shanghai's Manila and Beijing's Cebu. But the comparison to Davao exists only because Xiamen is near the sea and because of the slow pace of life here. Davao has none of Xiamen's tall buildings, wide, wide streets, a highway above the sea, and crazy drivers. Why, some drivers even had GPS in their taxi, and my cousins and I couldn't believe it because the taxi looked so old..." :)

LEt's not compare our cities to China. They have their own distinctions.

On the other hand, let us compare our cities to other places with the same capability of making a city as us, like Thailand or Malaysia...

LEt's not compare our cities to China. They have their own distinctions.

On the other hand, let us compare our cities to other places with the same capability of making a city as us, like Thailand or Malaysia...
I did not actually made that above statement, Ady001. The statement was extracted and quoted from a blog by sweet tooth (http://zhenmei.blogspot.com/2005_06_01_zhenmei_archive.html). :)

China is in a league of it's own...simply no other country comes close to it's dynamic economy :)

The Philippines is a future tiger nonetheless but for now we should look at a smaller scope of comparisson. China is a Global Superpower in the making that makes todays so called powers tremble. Our comparrisson is with other ASEAN countries.

As for the Xiamen-Davao or any other China to Phil. comparisson I think that's overboard. Let's wait for the reforms of GMA's super-regions to kick-in and if Davao, Cebu, CDO, Iloilo, Bacolod etc. progress phenomenally then we can have a small comparisson with other ASEAN neighbors.

China is simply the Biggest Economic Future Power & I believe that Chineses cities today can serve as a blueprint for progress by our own future metropolises. :)

^^^ yes, let's not compare Chinese cities to any of ours. My daughter went to Xiamen and other Chinese cities a couple of months ago. She enjoyed her stay in Xiamen and visited some of our relatives. But on the other hand, like any countries, meron secret sila. Outside their major cities lie poverties, pollutions and restlessness on their citizens.

For the Philippine future, let's just make our place(city) a safe, tourist friendly and clean. No need for those towering structures that could not accomodate anyone's interests.

^^^ yes, let's not compare Chinese cities to any of ours. My daughter went to Xiamen and other Chinese cities a couple of months ago. She enjoyed her stay in Xiamen and visited some of our relatives. But on the other hand, like any countries, meron secret sila. Outside their major cities lie poverties, pollutions and restlessness on their citizens.

For the Philippine future, let's just make our place(city) a safe, tourist friendly and cean. No need for those towering structures that could not accomodate anyone's interests.

I agree, even the so called Utopian City of Singapore has some of its "flaws". But I do hope the Philippine cities of the future will adopt the prevalent "Green Architecture" in Singapore. I mean a majority of Singapore buildings even have roof gardens :eek2:

I agree, even the so called Utopian City of Singapore has some of its "flaws". But I do hope the Philippine cities of the future will adopt the prevalent "Green Architecture" in Singapore. I mean a majority of Singapore buildings even have roof gardens :eek2:

Sorry about the above comment, but as I said before, do not make comments about "the chicago of the Philippines" or any such bufoonry.

On the other hand, about the LRT-Davao project, will that really eliminate all the jeepneys in the streets? I imagine the city of the davao being a ghost town. We franchise jeepneys and this grim episode of our city's life might happen...

I agree, even the so called Utopian City of Singapore has some of its "flaws". But I do hope the Philippine cities of the future will adopt the prevalent "Green Architecture" in Singapore. I mean a majority of Singapore buildings even have roof gardens :eek2:

i liked the green ever since..BTW, there's a hotel here in naga with roof garden..dunnow the name of the hotel, but it's still u/c..

i vote quezon city

I prefer South Suburbia: Las Piñas City and Muntinlupa City. It's a bit laidback there. Mas laidback pa yata ang Pilar Village kung ikukumpara mo sa Golden City sa Imus/Dasma, Cavite.

I lived in Cavite for 12 years and the traffic there is getting worse as years go by.

Quezon City has a lot of places for expansion. It can have places for Business, Residential and even Industrial.

Marikina has very efficient local government, clean environment and supportive people. Basic necessities of a progressive city.

Las Piñas and Muntinlupa are growing pretty fast. But the former is quite saturated by sudivisions while the latter has still more spaces for businesses.

Parañaque is almost saturated but has a lot of potentials since it one of the largest cities south of Makati and Manila. It should invest more in high-rise projects (condos, etc). And should also improve its subdivisions. It certainly has to do something about its bureaucracy and inrastructure. I don't know where it should put its own CBD or is it still necessary? Since it is already near Makati. But I hope they put it in Baclaran near Roxas Blvd or in the Raclamation areas.

Pasay is small but it could take advantage of its proximity to Makati and Manila. Pasay is one of the oldest to become city in MM, result of the spill-over effects of progress from Manila.

Taguig is nearer Makati so it has its own advantages. It has a big land area. And it has Fort Bonifacio.

Makati and Manila have been there already. Meaning they are already well-known the world over. They only have to improve what they have. Still a large section of Manila is undeveloped. And I also saw some poor sections of Makati esp along EDSA near Rockwell and parts of Guadalupe Nuevo, Rembo(I don't know what it is called, perhaps West Rembo?) and nearby places.

As for the other cities such as in Camanava area, I haven't been there so I hae no idea.

It's so hard to choose between these cities. But certainly, we can see some progress in all areas of MM. THey just have to coordinate with one another to provide uniform and efficient services esp in Traffic and Waste management. I hope they would not treat themselves as seprate fiefdoms since it would create chaos, confusion and ineffciency within MM.

We also have to look out for nearby cities such as Bacoor, Santa Rosa, San Pedro, Antipolo and other cities In BUlacan, Rizal, Laguna and Cavite. The spill-over effects from MM has certainly benefited these provinces. Now, an effective and extensive mass transportaion is needed to facilitate more growth .

^^ id definitely go for Makati City minus the mayor... i think there's no need for me to defend my answer, obvious naman ehh.. it's the heart of philippines' business! what else can you ask for?

QC, Marikina and Manila.

Sorry Makati...we all hate Binay!

We're still behind Bangkok (7), Kuala Lumpur (9), Singapore (10). Although it's a great thing that we are ahead of U.S. City skylines (Except New York[2] and Chicago[6]). Not being a pessimist but isn't 13 an unlucky number? Just kidding! Peace! :) Just 22 votes less than Shenzhen.

Nice find

strange, i know the site but the ip address is homepages, perhaps it's a mirror, it's one of the old skyscraper sites like skyscraperpages or something.

ah ok it's the delft site.

nice but not to sure about their algorithm for ranking. e.g. while dubai is impressive am not sure it should be number three. too much emphasis on pure height, anyway it's their list.

^^lol in the end...it will always be subjective anyways...
Example:
Sydney is a very beautiful city with a great harbour and skyline, and two world re-knowned landmarks..how can Chongqing be above it when its not even as well known as Sydney..

that ranking is certainly going to be strengthened with the arrival of numerous 90m+ buildings before 2010. Then again.... the other skyscraper towns could be having some new ones too.. and more prolific and taller..

^ Yep, bigger construction booms they say

Why this algorithm?
It measures a mix of height and breath of a skyline which seems to be honest as they are both important for the WOW! factor. Of course, people may think differently about their favorite skylines -

It is really subjective to anyone. If most of you have been to major cities around the world, I'm sorry to say, Manila or Metro Manila skyline might not make it into 100 as the best skyline in the world in my list.

Here's another site from that same link, Makati is # 31 , Xiamen is 43 and Las Vegas is # 72 :lol:

http://www.emporis.com/en/bu/sk/st/sr/

wala namang pics!

wala namang pics!

Meron, just click on the link that I posted and click on the city names then click on the photos of each skylines.

3 clicks away. :)

Manila is on my top 10.

hong kong
new york/chicago tie
shanghai
singapore
toronto
sydney
seattle
metro manila
bangkok
melbourne
panama city
tokyo
san fransisco

that site has been around for a long time. I think in 2000, MM was in the top 10.

Yeah, If my memory serves right that was already posted here.

Manila is always on my top 10 list. :cheers2:

Yeah Marikina looks kinda peaceful and clean but it doesnt have the dynamism and modernity of Makati and QC. Marikina is a large bedroom community just that a a very nice bedroom commmunity , no sprawling commercial centers, lofty buildings superhighways leisure centers etc

MY VOTE
of course im partial towards QC

1. QC - TOTAL CITY! masterplanned (i know its misplanned somewhere, but theyre fixing it ryt now ok), tree lined boulevards, huge parks,beautiful aerial, forested north, hilly and chilly, very academic (UP,ADMU, Miriam,NEU, AMA) science city, media/govt ctr., beautiful Iglesia ni Cristo, supermalls araneta its all here

2.Makati- upscale modern and enjoys higher standard of living, home of the rich and socialites, swanky villages well appointed business hotels,

3.Manila- manila will always remain a great city,a city of heritage and culture, colorful (but jagged dirty environs) streetscape, cosmopolitan,

4.Pasig
5.Mandaluyong

We have exactly the same choice..in the same order.

how orderly is Marikina? as in walang basura ang streets? hmmmm sa probinsya maraming ganyang cities...diba tigs? :D

whats wrong with Binay? Please elaborate why Binay is so unpopular here...di ko kasi sya kilala..

makati...sans the rallies...

sa mga napuntahan ko, Manila..for its history, color and spirit

;10304236']how orderly is Marikina? as in walang basura ang streets? hmmmm sa probinsya maraming ganyang cities...diba tigs? :D

whats wrong with Binay? Please elaborate why Binay is so unpopular here...di ko kasi sya kilala..

Malinis compared sa lahat ng cities sa MM. At tsaka maayos yung waste management sa kanila. Efficient din yung city hall.

Si Binay naman, aside from the fact na corrupt siya eh mahilig siayng magparally sa Ayala. Kaya ayun buwisit sa kanya yung mga nagtatrabahao dun kasi malaking abala nga naman.

mga rally lang talaga ang nakakasira sa imahe ng Makati

categories:

1. Infrastructure - makati (for Makati CBD and Rockwell Complex) and mandaluyong/pasig (for Ortigas business district)
2. Traffic Control - marikina
3. Local governance - las pinas and marikina
4. Pollution control - muntinlupa

1) Quezon City
2) Makati City
3) City of Manila
4) Marikina City

:)

QC minus the slums in Visayas Ave going to Tandanag Sora. It boasts of top colleges and universities and huge malls.

^^ i'll go for mandaluyong... ortigas...

pag may world war 3 ground zero tyak dito.

Manila (southern portion only). The northern portion (Tondo, Divisoria, Port Area, Quiapo and Sta. Cruz) is really one big mess.

Anyway, just like what I've said, it's still Quezon City for me.

Generally, as compared to Manila and to a lesser extent, Makati, I guess QC is a more stable city. Maybe because given the fact that it's primarily residential and is home to the most prestigious educational institutions in the country (UP, AdMU...sorry wala dito ang Taft Avenue). The local government of QC is also operating on a budget surplus, giving it more financial independence. More so, QC is also home to a lot of BPO-related establishments, in which most are located in Libis. It's also home to the country's famous shopping centers such as SM North EDSA (the original SM City), Cubao (Gateway, etc.), Robinsons Galleria and the soon-to-open TriNoMa of the Ayalas. Two lines of the mass transit system pass through QC (MRT along EDSA and LRT along Aurora Blvd.), providing a wide variety of transportation modes for commuters. QC highways are also the widest in the Philippines (think about Commonwealth, EDSA, Luzviminda Avenues, Congressional Ave, Quezon Ave, all of which are considered wide roads). And last, of course, is the fact that I live in Quezon City.

I dunno where to exactly place this thread but i decided to place it here.... Which are the top 10 best skylines in the Philippines outside Metro Manila....?

Oops, my bad! Out of MM pala.

1) Metro Cebu (Mandaue, Lapu Lapu, Cebu and others combined)
2) Davao
3) Iloilo
4) Baguio
5) Zamboanga
6) Hmm...Angeles(?)
7) I don't know
8) I'm not that familiar with cities outside MM
9) except for the cities of Pampanga and Baguio
10) and Cebu in the Visayas.

^^lol. Outside Metro Manila and there's no best skylines outside Metro Manila.


Cebu has this young skyline. I took this almost a year na at mejo may nag bago nang konti kase there are several highrises na ginagawa pa lang sa panahong yun.

CEBU CITY

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o2/slerz4/fbanner1.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o2/slerz4/fbanner3b.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o2/slerz4/fbanner3a.jpg

Yeah... Actually I was having a second thought of that.... Let's see.... But do you mean of "Skyline" only pertains to high-rise buildings???

Boy, do we have skyscrapers in Iloilo? Our buildings are no higher than 8-9 floors due to soil composition. The mountains are so far away.

But for me, what makes Iloilo's skyline unique is the twin spires of Molo Church seen during the approaching the harbour from Panay Gulf.

Vertical development would come later.

here's my list.. (i only have 3)
1. cebu city (no doubt the first outside MM)
2. davao city
3. iloilo city
mmhh.. i think a city should have at least 3 skyscrapers almost close to each other in order to have a skyline (haha.. at least in our country).
:D

Yeah... Actually I was having a second thought of that.... Let's see.... But do you mean of "Skyline" only pertains to high-rise buildings???


but we are talking here of BEST SKYLINES (means to me the most defined) in the Philippines so for me based on your title, only Metro Manila has a defined skyline pero siguro I didn't understand your point lang siguro...hehe

^^ Then, every city has skyline but not skycraper/s... Correct me if I'm wrong.... :)

yeah.. the question seems to be a bit harsh.. hehe, coz it's a bit difficult to answer if we're really talking about a defined skyline.. i can only see that in our capital..

Well, here's my list...
1. Metro Cebu (definitley comes first)
2. Davao City
3. Bacolod
4. Baguio
5. Iloilo
6. Zambaoanga City
7. Cagayan de Oro
8. Angeles
9. Gen. Santos
10. Mmmmm, I dunno

I don't want to place Naga in the top 10... I don't want to be biased..... hehehe

hey how about a thread of top 10 best 'skyscrapers' outside MM? did we have that in SSC already? :)

^^ I think none yet... Maybe you could create one since you have thought it first.

^^lol again...hehe. there's only 1 skyscraper outside Metro Manila, the Crown Regency (if valid) sa cebu which is u/c as of this time so still, walang kalaban laban ang mga cities outside MM kung skyscrapers na ang pag uusapan.hehe

Here's mine:

1 Cebu
2 Davao
3 Baguio

^^ mmmh, according to emporis, for a building to be considered a skyscraper, it must have at least 12 floors..

^^highrise to be exact, skyscraper is a lot taller than a highrise.hehe

aw.. hehe. didn't know that. thanks anyway. so there is only one skyscraper outside MM (next year pa). i hope in 5 years, we'll have multitude of skyscrapers rooting the fertile grounds of cities outside MM.

Show some pics I wanna see!

Makati, specifically Ayala skyline is the only one that's best for me (best viewed from Skyway..)

I think there's already an existing thread about "skylines outside Metro Manila."

^^highrise to be exact, skyscraper is a lot taller than a highrise.hehe

I think Emporis is just inventing definitions.

Skyscraper and highrise are actually just the same. I've consulted my good old encyclopaedia here at home and it says that the world's first skyscraper or highrise building was a 10-stories building in Chicago, which was built in the early 1900s.

If I'm not mistaken, it was also the first building to use an elevator by Otis.

actually sa Skyline Village ako nakatira...

Honestly, we haven't got the tall highrises yet because as I have mentioned earlier, due to soil composition. But anyway, this is the pano view of Iloilo City.

A few highrises but no "skyscrapers" yet, but soon...
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h291/berniemacksouthcentral/IloiloCity3-2.jpg
*Sorry kung medyo hindi clean kasi yung labeled version lang ako merong copy ng pano pic na ito.

Courtesy of Chymera & IAMME

Beautiful, most prosperous cities really develop near rivers and coastal areas :yes:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v644/sleepwalker_uno/banner/davaosscbanner.jpg

1. Metro Cebu
2. Metro Davao
3. Vigan City
4. GenSan City
what else??

1. Cebu
2. Davao
3. Iloilo
4. Baguio
what else?? =)

I like Cebu Skyline.

1. Cebu
2. Davao
3. Baguio ( havent been to baguio, pero sa nakita ko sa mga pictures, they have tall buildings there)
4. Iloilo
5. Bacolod,Cagayan de Oro & Zamboanga (more or less the same, w/CDO having newer looking tall buildings..plus the overlooking Pryce Plaza)

Anyway, what is the tallest building outside MM, Cebu and Davao?

I like Cebu Skyline.

hello paradyto, long time no see...hehe. thanks for visiting Philippines again... thanks also for your comment :)

;10364604']1. Cebu
2. Davao
3. Baguio ( havent been to baguio, pero sa nakita ko sa mga pictures, they have tall buildings there)
4. Iloilo
5. Bacolod,Cagayan de Oro & Zamboanga (more or less the same, w/CDO having newer looking tall buildings..plus the overlooking Pryce Plaza)

Anyway, what is the tallest building outside MM, Cebu and Davao?


Baguio's St. Louis University has a 15 storey building under construction in 2002.

i think baguio has more tall buildings than davao..tama ba ako? or is it because of the terrain lang?

^^ i don't think so.... never seen 10++ storey buildings in baguio. i could be wrong though.

my skylines outside MM...
1. cebu (pictures not needed anymore)

2. davao (pictures not needed anymore)

3. zamboanga (has lots of 6 - 9 story buildings)
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/f/fd/Climaco_ave..jpg
http://www.zamboanga.net/Hotel%20Perlita%20Facade2.jpg
http://mindanao.com/photoblog/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/downtown-zamboanga-city.JPG

4. baguio
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o208/Bilmor/Picture156.jpg
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/4908/picture154ig9.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h319/ergit222/07292006327.jpg

5. iloilo - cdo - bacolod (not sure)

For me:

1. Cebu
2. Davao
3. Baguio
4. Iloilo
5. CDO
6. Bacolod
7. Zamboanga
8. Gensan

;10366359']i think baguio has more tall buildings than davao..tama ba ako? or is it because of the terrain lang?


I disagrre. I was there in 2002 and they have yet to finish their first building over 10 storey and that was the one at St. Louis Univ.

;10366359']i think baguio has more tall buildings than davao..tama ba ako? or is it because of the terrain lang?


If I'm not mistaken bai, the last time I visited Baguio, I've noticed that they have lots of hotels, apartments nga around 9-10 stories tall. The elevation also make the buildings look taller.

wow, Baguio City has changed na. I remember before, there were no structures yet at the back portion of the Church.

Anyhow, where's SM in this photo?

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/4908/picture154ig9.jpg

Metro Cebu
Metro Davao
Bacolod

so marami ngang mid-hi rise building sa baguio!

ok heres my revised list

1. Cebu
2. Davao
3. Baguio ( lots of mid-hi rise buildings)
4. Zamboanga (tall buildings pero medyo old)
5. Cagayan de Oro (soon magiging #3 with the completion of the 29 storey maxandrea hotel)
6. Ilo-Ilo (ang Medicus at yung sa Smallville, ilang floors ba yun? from the pic, tingin ko 12 tama ba?)
7. Bacolod (PNB bacolod and Riverside are how many floors?)
8.

yung sa iloilo parang 8 & 9 stories.. yung PNB 7 ata, sabi ni Dinho dati..

and yup.. ang daming 10 storey building sa baguio..

MAY TAMA AKO!

mas marami pa siguro b4 the 1991 disaster.. idagdag pa natin yung hyatt na ni minsan di ko nakita..ehehehe..

wow, Baguio City has changed na. I remember before, there were no structures yet at the back portion of the Church.

Anyhow, where's SM in this photo?

^^Actully, nasa SM ako ng kinunan ko yung pix :D

anong term nila dun sa burol, bundok na tinubuan ng mga bahay..lol..

Hyatt was 12 storeys..i think

so nauna pa nagka 12 storeys ang Baguio sa Davao

;10372417']Hyatt was 12 storeys..i think

so nauna pa nagka 12 storeys ang Baguio sa Davao

I don't think it was that tall, i guess between 7 or 8

I don't think it was that tall, i guess between 7 or 8

11 po yata..yun yung nasa comc'l ng JOY dishwashing liquid dati..lol..

^^

Well, actually di rin ako sure pero I guess the Baguio people can help us.

really? cdo will soon have a 29 story edifice? cool :okay:

STOREY bai slerz..STOREY..hehe

really? cdo will soon have a 29 story edifice? cool :okay:

that's still a "?".. kse maxandre has an existing 9storey building..now accdng to press release, they're gonna expand 20 more.. dunno if another building or they're just gonna build it on top of the existing building..

;10372500']STOREY bai slerz..STOREY..hehe

talagang wala kang pinapalagpas ha..ehehehe..

talagang wala kang pinapalagpas ha..ehehehe..


WAWAY=PASAWAY..:rofl:

;10372578']WAWAY=PASAWAY..:rofl:

hahaha...from Dinho to Zyans to FX(yung foundation na dapat columns) to Slerz..hahaha..

;10372608']in fairness di ko naman binara si bai slerz..

si DINHO ra man akong gina dumotan

si Zyans pud bai.. ma notice nako na...lol...

^^

there's a 29 storey hotel being constructed in CDO now? :)

in fairness di ko naman binara si bai slerz..

si DINHO ra man akong gina dumotan

OT: kaaliw naman to..umaatras yung reply..

^^

there's a 29 storey hotel being constructed in CDO now? :)

yup Maxandrea Hotel

OT: kaaliw naman to..umaatras yung reply..


KAKAALIW lew..KAKAALIW....

hehe para dili ot..here are the buildings that dot the DC skyline

http://www.davaodoctors.edu.ph/aboutddc/photos/pic04.jpg
http://www.prycegardens.com/images/pg_images/pryce_tower.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v332/ladies_nyt/davao5.jpg
http://www.philippines.travelmall.com/images/21606.jpg
http://www.asiatravel.com/philippines/royalmandaya/gifs/facade.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v332/ladies_nyt/davao2.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/tj_brewed/DAVAO/marco101.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f368/badith/metrobank.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g261/waway625/Landco1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v644/sleepwalker_uno/banner/davaosscbanner.jpg

;10372500']STOREY bai slerz..STOREY..hehe


nangutana lagi ko ana nga term, ingon nila story or storey, bisag asa ra daw ana nila gamiton kung ang number odf floors ang hisgutan...saun.hehe

;10372688']KAKAALIW lew..KAKAALIW....




e sa yun ang gusto ko gamitin eh..short cut..bat ba mas marunong ka pa sakin? lols..

nangutana lagi ko ana nga term, ingon nila story or storey, bisag asa ra daw ana nila gamiton kung ang number odf floors ang hisgutan...saun.hehe

pero sa amoa firm..we never type it as storey..

wala pa sab ko ka encounter ug plans nga story instead na storey

i could be wrong though :)

nangutana lagi ko ana nga term, ingon nila story or storey, bisag asa ra daw ana nila gamiton kung ang number odf floors ang hisgutan...saun.hehe



Yeah it's STOREY and not stories or story. Also, do not confuse skyscraper and highrise. They're just the same, so meaning a 12-storey highrise building is also a skyscraper. :)

PNB- 8 storey
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a325/zyanz/bacolod/bank_pnbbacolod1.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a325/zyanz/bacolod/bacolod_bankpnbnight.jpg

Riverside College- 8 storey
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a325/zyanz/bacolod/college_riversidewithparklotbacolod.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a325/zyanz/bacolod/college_riverside2buildingbacolod.jpg

Riverside Condominium- 12 storey (future)
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a325/zyanz/bacolod/hospitals_riversideexpansionbacolod.jpg

DBP- 5/6 storeys
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a325/zyanz/bacolod/bank_dbpbacolodlagoon.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a325/zyanz/bacolod/bank_dbpbacolod.jpg


Horizon Twin Tower- 9+ storey, future hotel & condominium, (no pics)

Architect man jud ni si Wawoy. What's the term for these vertical lines again? Is it "Louvres"? or what's the correct spelling? Hehehe.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a325/zyanz/bacolod/bank_dbpbacolod.jpg

^^

nice pics of PNB and DBP there Zyanz!!

re: 12 storey Riverside, i asked my friend (whos a torre btw) about it, wala daw sya kabalo regarding ana..

perhaps, on hold..

;10372794']^^

nice pics of PNB and DBP there Zyanz!!

re: 12 storey Riverside, i asked my friend (whos a torre btw) about it, wala daw sya kabalo regarding ana..

perhaps, on hold.

;10372753']pero sa amoa firm..we never type it as storey..

wala pa sab ko ka encounter ug plans nga story instead na storey

i could be wrong though :)

Ah ok, if that is, thanks for the correction... Ala Kris Aquino, flip here, flip there flip everywhere....:Dhehe

pero murag wa man diay letter E akong keyboard :lol::lol:

Ah ok, if that is thanks for the correction... Ala Kris Aquino, flip here, flip there flip everywhere....hehe

pero murag wa man diay letter E akong keyboard :lol:

haha..you're excused..ehehehe

Architect man jud ni si Wawoy. What's the term for these vertical lines again? Is it "Louvres"? or what's the correct spelling? Hehehe.

louvers or ouvres pareha ra man ata na..pero usually horizontal man nang louvers..kanang vertical na ana sa building mga sunshade man na..(afaik)

lols wala na ko kabalo sa exact term

perhaps, on hold.

or wala ra sya nabawan si yadyad...haha (name dropping mode)

^^

ok thanks..

;10372853']or wala ra sya nabawan si yadyad...haha (name dropping mode)

di ko na gets ah..

how bout in Ormoc city, the hotel along the port, ilang storeys gani to?

so unsa na ang nasa 8, 9 ug 10 sa top 10?

^^

That's Hotel Don Felipe. Less than 9 floors..


Here it is:

http://www.eduard-stirnimann.ch/Ormoc-006-640.jpg


http://userwww.aimnet.ne.jp/user/mizumoto/felipe1.jpg

so ano na 8, 9, ug 10 sa top 10

na ba'y official list?ehehehe

ang limpyo naman..

Ormoc City

http://p.vtourist.com/1545022-Travel_Picture-Ormoc_City.jpg

i think a high rise in the phil setting should be at least 10 storeys tall

^^

I think 10-storeys is the minimum bro.

My encyclopaedia says that the first skyscraper in the world was a 10-storey building in Chicago.

yeah..forgot the name of the building though..i think it was the first steel building though (as what ive read sa history of arch)

;10372838']louvers or ouvres pareha ra man ata na..pero usually horizontal man nang louvers..kanang vertical na ana sa building mga sunshade man na..(afaik)

lols wala na ko kabalo sa exact term

Function man na niya Bai ang sunshade... Pwede pud mahimo'g sunshade ang louvers. Basin Vertical Canopy na'g right term para ana...

Function man na niya Bai ang sunshade... Pwede pud mahimo'g sunshade ang louvers. Basin Vertical Canopy na'g right term para ana...

where in my post did i say na ang louver dili naga function as sunshade?

maraming form of sunshade..pwede louvers, pwede bris soleil and etc..

now the vertical lines..sunshade pud to..(ang function ba..not exactly mao ang tawag.) popularly used in the past..pero i forgot the exact term lang

;10374501']where in my post did i say na ang louver dili naga function as sunshade?

maraming form of sunshade..pwede louvers, pwede bris soleil and etc..

now the vertical lines..sunshade pud to..(ang function ba..not exactly mao ang tawag.) popularly used in the past..pero i forgot the exact term lang

:D Ana ba...

Bai, related ka kang Stephen Mangangan? - OT, sorry

:D Ana ba...

Bai, related ka kang Stephen Mangangan? - OT, sorry

WTF? why that retard of all people? lols

Function man na niya Bai ang sunshade... Pwede pud mahimo'g sunshade ang louvers. Basin Vertical Canopy na'g right term para ana...


i doubt if vertical canopy ang tawag though...

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ok that was not funny adonis....

ok

re: Riverside Hospital's 12 storey expansion....

thru sms..

i sent..

Mag expand pala ang riverside ng 12 storey building? kita ko ang pic sa net..nice

my friends reply...

ganun ba? Ndi kc namin alam bout it..san kaya pwede masilip yun?

my reply..

i email ko na lang, sa forums kasi yun..skyscrapercity.com

my friends reply..

cge..you have my email add naman diba?tnx

OT: nice ilo-ilo pano...i hope they build a bridge to guimaras...

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/manileno/lucena/lcnaerial4.jpg
View facing Brgy. Gulang-Gulang with St. Ferdinand Cathedral towering over the district.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/manileno/lucena/lcnaerial5.jpg
The majestic and mystical Mount Banahaw provides a backdrop to the city.
St. Ferdinand Cathedral Complex is seen in lower right. The yellow building in left center is Pacific Mall.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/manileno/lucena/lcnaerial2.jpg
Looking towards Tayabas Bay and Dalahican Port with the lights of Pagbilao's Hopewell Power Plant in the background.


http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/manileno/lucena/lcnaerial3.jpg
Ocean Palace Mall (OPM) is still Lucena City's tallest building.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/manileno/lucena/lcnaerial.jpg
Narrow one-way streets is typical of an old city like Lucena.

Oops, my bad! Out of MM pala.

1) Metro Cebu (Mandaue, Lapu Lapu, Cebu and others combined)
2) Davao
3) Iloilo
4) Baguio
5) Zamboanga
6) Hmm...Angeles(?)
7) I don't know
8) I'm not that familiar with cities outside MM
9) except for the cities of Pampanga and Baguio
10) and Cebu in the Visayas.

:rofl: Funny.

1. Metro Cebu
2. Davao
3. Baguio
4. Zamboanga
5. Iloilo
6. Sta. Rosa (Enchanted Kingdom)
7. Lucena
8. Angeles (It's growing. I saw some mid rises near Clark.)
9. GenSan
10. Mabalacat (5+ storey high school and new hospital.)

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/6334/44579303dsc016841zz8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/9249/44579316dsc016851tc4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p295/bonxxm/44579303.jpg

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p295/bonxxm/44579316.jpg

Hey everyone, did you saw Legazpi's skyline pics. They are excellent. Just drop by at Aerial Pics thread or the Legazpi city thread, you'll find excellent pics. If not, visit us and go for yourself at Lignon Hill and other places w/ high levels. Legazpi is definitely terrific with Mayon in its background... :)

As defined in school, high-rise structures are at least 15 stories high.

Just below that, (4-15 stories) buildings are called mid-rise structures.

I think the globally accepted definition of a highrise is that it should meet these criteria:

-It should be at least 12 storeys high and/or:
-It should stand at 90ft or higher

:yes:

^^

yea or something along the lines of that. bat kasi walang iisang definition ang high rise?

Another for Cebu

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1261/sunsetskylineee3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/545/cebuskyline22006hc3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

with the Crown Regency... Cebu's newest scraper.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c396/Slerz2/CEBUskylinebyRUSTYbanner.jpg

My LIST
1. Cebu
2. Baguio
3. Davao
4. Ilo-Ilo
5. Angeles
6. Bacolod
7. Dumaguete
8. San Fernando, Pampanga
9. Cagayan de Oro
10. Olongapo

1.Cebu
2.Davao
3.CDeO
4.Bacolod
5.Baguio
6.Lucena
7.Batangas
8.Legazpi
9.Naga
10.Lipa

^^

yea or something along the lines of that. bat kasi walang iisang definition ang high rise?

paano pag midget yung tao? di times two na yun kataasan ng building para sa kanya..
dapat may highrise for different heights ng tao :lol:

your cities really look nice...
i glad that every city has its own identity...
cebu is more or less the hongkong of the philippines, but i'd rather have it know as it is...

my personal favorite skylines are
1. cebu
2. davao
3. baguio
4. zamboanga
5. iloilo
6. bacolod
7. cagayan de oro
8. iligan (though this small city is not as dense as the rest, it's skyline is a magnificent blend of mid-rise buildings and mountains... lovely!)

...

personal picks outside MNL:

1.) CEB - skyscrapers in the Visayas. Where the mountains is at the backdrop and the harbour and the islands in the front with sky rise buildings which gives momentum to its progress.

2.) DVO - Mindanao's vibrant city mixing urban with laidback countryside. Expansive and with the aroma of durian and Sandawa as the sentinel in this bustling city.

3.) ILO - Although deprived of the skyrises more than 8 stories high, the skyline that clearly defines this city are not because of new high rises but the old chruches and establishments that witnessed its colorful history.

4.) LEG - Lingon Hill with the Bikolana Beauty in the backdrop.

5.) GES - Like Legaspi, it has "Fiery Mountain" backdrop behind. The skyline is marked with minarets, factories and commercial establishments, making it as the powerhouse of SOCCSKSARGEN

6.) BCD - Surrounded by sugar plantations and the towering Canlaon, this sugar city's skyline is clearly defined by the cathedral and the Capitol.

7.) CDO - Pryce Plaza may be the crown in the hills but CDO's mountainous backdrop along the bay makes it very unique with the river that runs through it.

8.) CBO - Although not clearly publicized due to "negative impressions", this cosmopolitan little city held its name to the hill that serves as the "stone fortress" of the island of Mindanao. Minarets with churches mixed together.

9.) BAT - The only city that made it to my list in CALABARZON area. I like its industrious bay by the mountain of Calaca behind it. The port serves as an alternative to MNL.

10.) TAG - The little city by the hills. It has a nice harbour (very clean waters in the port area) with some establishments prominent to it's skyline such as BQ, the church, etc with Panglao on the other side.

Another for Cebu

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/545/cebuskyline22006hc3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Looks like a bay city, Nice Cebu:) Hallo Slerz!!!! Nice to know Philipinos Cities, I think they're looks like Spanish cities.....

DAKABAYAN SA DABAW...

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f368/badith/ponciano.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a325/zyanz/bacolod/park_capitollagoonaerialviewbacolod.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a325/zyanz/bacolod/bacolodarialviewriversidereclamatio.jpg

My list:

1. Cebu
2. Davao
3. Iloilo
4. Cagayan de Oro
5. Legazpi
6. Bacolod
7. Iligan
8. Ormoc
9. Lucena
10. Dumaguete

I based my judgements on pictures...

Looks like a bay city, Nice Cebu:) Hallo Slerz!!!! Nice to know Philipinos Cities, I think they're looks like Spanish cities.....


welcome back paradyto.... I missed city vs city, hehehe...
actually, it's a straight (Mactan straight) not a bay. I took the photo from the 1st Mandaue Mactan bridge. The bridge connects mainland Cebu (the pic that you quoted) to Mactan island (pic below)

Mactan island taken from the 1st bridge
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c396/Slerz2/LapuSkyline.jpg

2nd Mactan bridge (Marcelo Fernan Bridge) taken from the first bridge
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c396/Slerz2/2ndMMB.jpg

Our city looks like a Spanish city coz of our churches.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c396/Slerz2/Cebuskylinecityhall.jpg

Cebu City

http://img476.imageshack.us/img476/80/skyline2ta1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Ormoc City
http://philippineintroductions.homestead.com/files/normoc_o3.jpg



Photos below from flickr.com


Tacloban City
http://static.flickr.com/55/147993321_ae6b9437d0_o.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/52/147993317_c08e1df2ef_o.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/87/260334494_27d98382ea_o.jpg




.:.

ok... the topic is Top 10 Best Skylines in the Philippines (outside MM)...

no doubt...

No. 1 Metro CEBU (Visayas)...
http://img476.imageshack.us/img476/80/skyline2ta1.jpg

No. 2 Davao City (Mindanao)
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f368/badith/mid1.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f368/badith/mid2.jpg

who's no. 3?

let's support it with pictures please para walang away hehehe.

Wow, Tacloban is such an expansive city! At first, I thought Ormoc was the largest urban area in Leyte...now I've realized that Ormoc is nothing compared to Tacloban in size. I mean, Look at that sprawl!

It is also worth noting that Ormoc seems so compact/small in urban land area that it could simply be a barangay and not a city nor town. The last time I was in Ormoc was in 1998.

Wow, Tacloban is such an expansive city! At first, I thought Ormoc was the largest urban area in Leyte...now I've realized that Ormoc is nothing compared to Tacloban in size. I mean, Look at that sprawl!

It is also worth noting that Ormoc seems so compact/small in urban land area that it could simply be a barangay and not a city nor town. The last time I was in Ormoc was in 1998.


Go to the Eastern Visayas thread. I posted some photos of their airport. Very nice location (beside the sea) and very clean and looks somewhat sprawling too -- more room for expansion and improvement.

^^ormoc had been declared the philippines greenest city for a couple of times already...that is according to my lola who's from over there...a nice little city, IMO i find it to be better in many ways than tacloban...