Este es el nuevo proyecto para el estadio del Real Madrid:
This is the new proyect for Real Madrid Stadium:

http://www.lamela.com/DEPOT/fotos/0356_-_tpr_-_18%20Idea%20para%20cubricion%20estadio.jpg

http://www.lamela.com/DEPOT/fotos/0356_-_tpr_-_19%20proceso%20cubricion%20estadio.jpg


Y este es el nuevo estadio para mi ciudad, Palencia:
And this is the new stadium for my city, Palencia:

http://www.fmangado.com/images/obra/Detalle/Det_432.jpg

http://www.fmangado.com/images/obra/Detalle/Det_435.jpg

En el proyecto del Bernabeu....es retractil?...y como para cuando lo pretenden tener?

Si, es retractil
Esto es tan solo un proyecto, todavia no hay fechas.

http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=262780

Some of the pictures on the Spanish thread
Nuevas fotos en la web de Lamela

http://img496.imageshack.us/img496/4903/0358obr00001cdrmext12ni.jpg

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the airport
Thanks dewback ;)

Bueno, ahí va alguna foto más de la web de AS:

Plantilla y autoridades en la zona del primer equipo
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/3338/recorte119on.jpg
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/1755/recorte221dp.jpg
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/6925/recorte338vx.jpg

Vestuario del Castilla
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/232/recorte559oj.jpg

Gimnasio del primer equipo
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/4083/recorte660sm.jpg

Sala de hidroterapia
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/9770/recorte8894cs.jpg

Sauna (junto a ésta tb hay un baño turco)
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/7523/recorte770me.jpg

Sala interior de calentamiento con césped artificial
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/4337/recorte9912av.jpg

Fachada de la zona del primer equipo
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/8748/recorte9928bf.jpg

Señaletica
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/9688/recorte9944hc.jpg

Sala de prensa
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/2037/recorte9976bd.jpg

Sala de convivencia
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/5033/recorte9999gh.jpg

Desde la cubierta del edificio del primer equipo, carpa donde se celebró la inauguración
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/136/recorte9964jx.jpg
noticias de la web oficial blanca sobre la Ciudad del Real Madrid:
Las Peñas visitan la nueva Ciudad Deportiva (http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/penas_ciudad_deportiva_25221.htm)
Así planifica el Club el traslado a la Ciudad del Real Madrid (http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/asi_club_ciudad_real_madrid_25764.htm)
Los técnicos de las categorias inferiores del Real Madrid visitan Valdebebas (http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/real_madrid_valdebebas_26036.htm)
Los veteranos del Real Madrid disfrutan visitando Valdebebas (http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/real_madrid_valdebebas_26059.htm)
El viernes se inaugura oficialmente la nueva Ciudad del Real Madrid (http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/ciudad_real_madrid_26246.htm)
Valdebebas recibe el primer entrenamiento del Real Madrid Castilla (http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/valdebebas_real_madrid_castilla_26230.htm)
La Ciudad de los 1.000 árboles (http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/ciudad_arboles_26222.htm)
CIUDAD REAL MADRID: Un mundo de curiosidades por descubrir (http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/ciudad_real_madrid_22701.htm)
CIUDAD REAL MADRID: Hoy se levanta el telón de la Ciudad Real Madrid (http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/ciudad_real_madrid_ciudad_real_26297.htm)
CIUDAD REAL MADRID: Butragueño: “Es un proyecto pensado por y para el Club” (http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/ciudad_real_madrid_butragueno_club_26317.htm)
CIUDAD REAL MADRID: Florentino Pérez: "Para tener la mejor cantera del mundo es necesaria una ciudad deportiva así" (http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/ciudad_real_madrid_florentino_perez_26324.htm)
CIUDAD REAL MADRID: Buyo: “Aquí se labrarán grandes jugadores” (http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/ciudad_real_madrid_buyo_26319.htm)
CIUDAD REAL MADRID: Raúl: "Esta es nuestra casa" (http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/ciudad_real_madrid_raul_26315.htm)
CIUDAD REAL MADRID: Datos de una gran obra (http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/ciudad_real_madrid_datos_22727.htm)
CIUDAD REAL MADRID: Merce emociona a los asistentes a la presentación con la versión del himno del Real Madrid (http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/ciudad_real_madrid_merce_real_26318.htm)
CIUDAD REAL MADRID: Esperanza Aguirre y Alberto Ruiz Gallardón: "Son unas instalaciones increíbles" (http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/ciudad_real_madrid_esperanza_aguirre_26313.htm)
CIUDAD REAL MADRID: Florentino Pérez: "Hoy el sueño se materializa" (http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/ciudad_real_madrid_florentino_perez_26320.htm)
CIUDAD REAL MADRID: Así fue el acto de inauguración de la mejor Ciudad Deportiva del Mundo (http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/ciudad_real_madrid_ciudad_deportiva_26310.htm)
2-3: El oficio se impone al talento en el estreno de la Ciudad Real Madrid (http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/2-3_ciudad_real_madrid_26341.htm)
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/7176/recorte9935sn.jpg

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/1906/recorte440gt.jpg

This is only the 20% of the Real Madrid's City, 120 hectares (300 acres?) of pure football.

Thats actually better than a lot of football stadiums in some countries. Probably most of Central, South America and Africa.

How is Real Madrid's debt going? They better hope that an Athletico or Barca supporter doesn't become Governor of that bank. ;)

Here in Brazil we have a lot of good training centers... some of them are maybe better than a lot in Europe.

Big clubs like Cruzeiro, São Paulo, Atletico Paranaense have great areas for football.

Some pics of Cruzeiro Training Center (called "Toca da Raposa")
Luis Felipe Scolari and Wanderley Luxemburgo work there.

http://www.cruzeiro.com.br/cruzeiro/galeria/40_foto.jpg
http://www.cruzeiro.com.br/cruzeiro/galeria/39_foto.jpg
http://www.cruzeiro.com.br/cruzeiro/galeria/37_foto.jpg
http://www.cruzeiro.com.br/cruzeiro/galeria/36_foto.jpg
http://www.cruzeiro.com.br/cruzeiro/galeria/34_foto.jpg
http://www.cruzeiro.com.br/cruzeiro/galeria/28_foto.jpg
http://www.cruzeiro.com.br/cruzeiro/galeria/26_foto.jpg
http://www.cruzeiro.com.br/cruzeiro/galeria/25_foto.jpg
http://www.cruzeiro.com.br/cruzeiro/galeria/24_foto.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y8/edsonlmdias/toca.jpg

It's great!!!
And what about a new Flamengo's training complex project by Niemeyer? It's true?

Ciudad del Real Madrid

http://img496.imageshack.us/img496/5967/cdenas1305040gn.jpg

It's great!!!
And what about a new Flamengo's training complex project by Niemeyer? It's true?


Its true! But is a legend. Flamengo is one of the poorest teams in Brazil.
In the national league this year, he is only 19º. If they finish in that position, they will play the second division in 2006.

They have 20 million fans, but is very bad administrated.
Their debt is aprox. 180 mi dollars.

A training center (they dont have one today) is important. But they have more problems.

If you look the standings of the league today, 2003 and 2004 you will see that the bests clubs have more structures, and low debts.
Today, the biggest clubs in Brazil: Cruzeiro, Sao Paulo, Santos, Atletico Paranaense and Internacional.

More pics:

Atletico Paranaense Training Center
http://www.furacao.com/images/ct/ct01.jpg

Sao Paulo Training Center
http://www.tricolormania.com.br/imagens/novas_imagens/patrimonio/cct.jpg
http://www.tricolormania.com.br/imagens/treinos/3103/photos/Mvc-841f.jpg

Santos is a big club and Corinthians is not a big club?
I am afraid that my knowledge about the brasilian championship is very small...

The biggest club in Brasil, O Timao - Corinthians

How is Real Madrid's debt going? They better hope that an Athletico or Barca supporter doesn't become Governor of that bank. ;)

Real Madrid's current debt = 0€

Real Madrid's current debt = 0€

Yep. They're fortunate to have a city council that was happy, a few years ago, to pay way over the odds to purchase the land upon which Real Madrid's old training ground stood. Wiped out Real Madrid's huge debts in an instant!

Yep. They're fortunate to have a city council that was happy, a few years ago, to pay way over the odds to purchase the land upon which Real Madrid's old training ground stood. Wiped out Real Madrid's huge debts in an instant!


Well they did sell some land the same way many other clubs have and will in the future.What's your point.
I remember an angry Atletico Madrid supporter telling me that Real Madrid is the club of the government or the rich.Where as Atletico were the working mans club.Ha,ha,ha.I've yet to see any of these so called working class clubs feed the poor.
They are all the same unjustifiably over rated clubs run by corporations.Be it the governments club,the working clas club etc.....It's all the same bullshit.

Well they did sell some land the same way many other clubs have and will in the future.What's your point.
I remember an angry Atletico Madrid supporter telling me that Real Madrid is the club of the government or the rich.Where as Atletico were the working mans club.Ha,ha,ha.I've yet to see any of these so called working class clubs feed the poor.
They are all the same unjustifiably over rated clubs run by corporations.Be it the governments club,the working clas club etc.....It's all the same bullshit.

Kind of misses the point.

It's well known that a few years ago (before Real Madrid started splashing out tens of millions on the likes of Zidane, Figo, Ronaldo etc, if I remember correctly) Real Madrid had huge debts. Then the Madrid City council saved Real by paying a huge sum to buy their training ground. It was a big scandal because everyone knew that the council had paid far, far too much for the land. In effect, they were bankrolling a football club with the public's money.

I would never talk about things that I do not know, you should do the same thing. Though my english is very very limited, I am going to try to explain what I want to say in a best possible way.

THE COUNCIL DIDN'T PAID ANYTHING TO REAL MADRID!!!!!!, ok?
After this sentence, everything what you have said does not mean anything. You lost the moral authority to talk about Real Madrid.

Madrid's Council and the region of the Comunidad de Madrid (CAM) did not pay anything, they re-qualified part of the land of the old training center (it was a sport area and turned into edificable area) and they obteined 1+1/3 of the four skyscrapers that are going to be constructed in that place. Only four skyscrapers because Real Madrid, and as consequence of this agreement, obtained fewer edificability that was corresponding to him and obtained less than all the rest owners of the neighborhood that also was in the same case; even being the first owner there 50 years ago when it was an area out of city (now is in a privileged situation).
Two towers and the 64'3 % of the third one was from Real Madrid, the rest from this one for the CAM and the fourth one for the Council. Each one sold this patrimony the way they want to do it. Real Madrid got 90.000 million pesetas (less than 550 millions euros), the Council and the CAM 40 000, and the Estate obteined the third part of these 130.000 in taxes. The city earned 60.000 square meters of green zones and a new incredible financial center.
The place will turn into one of the most emblematic tertiary complexes in Europe, at a the level of the Defense, the Docklands or the Postdamer Playz; in representation, volume of business and importance.
The agreement was approved by practically all the political and social institutions: PP, IU, UGT and CC.OO, the Managerial Organizations and the Federation of Residents Associations. An operation of this type was never realized by so many transparency and political and social support.

You said "they're fortunate to have a city council that was happy, a few years ago, to pay way over the odds to purchase the land upon which Real Madrid's old training ground stood". I repeat, nobody paid anything.
The operation "Old Training Ground" was a success for all the parts and a Harvard business case study has been made (the second one that this prestigious University dedicates to Real Madrid during the mandate of the current president, Florentino Pérez).
One year ago "someone" that is not capable to expel his eternal complex of inferiority (we all know the name of the club even they kept in the anonymity) denounced illegalities of Real Madrid, of the CAM and of the Council in the sale of the land, to the Comisión Europea (CE). A few weeks later the CE not only reaffirm the legality of the operation but they praised the cleanliness of this one.

Also you should know that the Barcelona sold lands that the Council of Barcelona re-qualified; twice in the Barcelona's history. During the dictatorship of Franco and again a few months ago. But the operations neither were so successful nor were done by the extreme cleanliness of Real Madrid.
The Atlético wants to do the same thing with the stadium, a land that for the Council is not very strategically important but sure that they will give green light to the operation.

This is very funny, Atlético de Madrid claims that Alcorcón's council (close to Madrid) gives them 130 hectares. You wrote "they were bankrolling to football club with the public's money", that's a good example. They will give them many hectares that had been destined to the enjoyment of the people in these council. The residents in Alcorcón are not going to receive anything. This is what you call a "big scandal"
The area of the new Real Madrid Training Ground does not a gift, Real Madrid bought this 120 hectares land negotiating one to one and directly with the many little owners of the land.
Real Madrid bought these area in 2001 paying 2' 53 millions euros (what a reserves player costs) but due to the privileged situation and the presence of a prestigious club like it is Real Madrid, the land nowadays costs 361'45 millions euros (5 Zidanes, the most expensive football player of the history of football). When the things are done by cleanliness and from the legality, the luck is with you.

The madridistas can agree more or less with the sports policy of the current president Florentino Pérez but what we cannot criticize him it is the dedication, effort, honesty, cleanliness, legality ... with the one that leads the club. And he does it with generosity, dedicating his valuable time without receiving anything because he is not the owner of the club, the onwers are the 80.000 members who fill every Sunday the stadium and all the white supporters in the world.
Probably in the past, Real Madrid could be as the rest of the clubs of the world that believe they can live out of the law with impunity. But during the last 5 years the supporters of Real Madrid Football Club can feel proud because Real Madrid is different from the rest we will not see related to anything turbid or illegal for a long time.

Real Madrid is the best club of the world and this generates many rumors and lies surround him everyday. The supporters are accustomed and already we do not answer to these assaults but there are moments in which you feel that is a personal attack.
I hope that you have understood me and do not return to talk about things that you do not know.

I'm sorry. I was angry :)

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3866/1bbe8a5288maqueta800g5cg.jpg

Kind of misses the point.

It's well known that a few years ago (before Real Madrid started splashing out tens of millions on the likes of Zidane, Figo, Ronaldo etc, if I remember correctly) Real Madrid had huge debts. Then the Madrid City council saved Real by paying a huge sum to buy their training ground. It was a big scandal because everyone knew that the council had paid far, far too much for the land. In effect, they were bankrolling a football club with the public's money.



Errrr.I don't think it misses the point at all.There has never been any proof of any wrong doing.If you have any please release it as all the anti-Madridistas would love to see it.I think you're a victim of sensationalist journalism.
First thing Barcelona and other anti Real Madrid supporters do is make up sensationalist bullshit to make up excuses.
Excuses as to why they are not the greatest,most famous and biggest club in the world.A problem which Real Madrid doesn't have.As they suffer no inferiority complex.Not from Barcelona.Not from Milan.Not from any o club.
As they are rightly recognized as the zenith of club football.
Albeit i still think the big players earn way tooooooooooo much money.Winks.

@ JimB: See what happens when you know nothing about Real Madrid? See what happens, Lebowski? See what happens? :poke:

@ JimB: See what happens when you know nothing about Real Madrid? See what happens, Lebowski? See what happens? :poke:

Well, I'll admit that I don't know nearly as much about this as Eli, or even Peshu. My post was based on what I read or saw in numerous media at the time. If those reports were all 100% wrong, then I apologise. But blame the source of the reports rather than me.

However, it would be interesting to see an informed and objective opinion from someone who isn't so close to Real Madrid. I suspect that we might get a rather different story. I'm in no position to say which side is being more economical with the truth.

Those reports were 100% wrong, Jim. Clubs like Manchester Utd, FC Barcelona or Bayern München asked Brussels to investigate the transaction, but no sign of irregularity was found at all.
There can't be any investigation more transparent with the truth than Brussels itself.

However, it would be interesting to see an informed and objective opinion from someone who isn't so close to Real Madrid. I suspect that we might get a rather different story. I'm in no position to say which side is being more economical with the truth.
You'll never find anyone that talk about Real Madrid with objectivity. An example: you are not a supporter of any spanish club but you had talked about Real Madrid with hardness, accusing without arguments, influenced by slightly professional media. I gave you confirmed information but I recognize that I'm always going to look at the positive side of my club, and as consequence of this I´m not an objetive opinion.
This Club shakes so many passions so or you hate it deeply, or you adore and admire it up to the infinite; nobody is indifferent. :dunno: :)

The old training center. You can see the tennis courts, the football grounds and the Raimundo Saporta Arena.
http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/8223/siudaddeportiva2cy0qqkf8.jpg

An initial idea of the new financial center...
http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/1229/4a86e1901ya3mmhv9.jpg

The four skycrapers of the new financial center designed by Pei, Pelli, Carvajal and Álvarez-Sala, and Foster.
http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/9878/torr9sy7btpm7.gif

At the left, the Santiago Bernabeu Stadium. In front of it, the Azca financial center. You can see the Picasso Tower and the Europa Tower.
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/3298/bernabeucentrofinanciero9kq2wbjq3.jpg

In this general view you can see the Azca financial center (right) and the new financial center (left). There are 2'5 Km between them and both of them will form de Financial Corridor.
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/4005/recorte0ds6akyd2.jpg

I edit:
the 16th spanish thread about the new financial center (the Madrid Arena)
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=285394
The international thread
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=310162






As they are rightly recognized as the zenith of club football.

...and basketball, the other "galactic" section :D . We are the best basketball club in Europe, and the two best european players of the basketball history were here, Drazen Petrovic (tragically dead) and Arvydas Sabonis
http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/sabonis_bernabeu_ojala_copa_europa_26804.htm
, both very important NBA players in a difficult epoch for the european players in USA.

+Real Madrid Fútbol (football):
9 Champion's Leagues
29 Spanish Leagues
....

+Real Madrid Baloncesto (basketball):
8 Euroleagues
29 Spanish Leagues
....

The NBA want to form a future European Conference and Real Madrid is one of the keys for this project. This summer the Real Madrid basketball executives had meetings with Chicago Bulls and LA Lakers executives, when Real Madrid visited this two cities in his World Tour.

Good news, on Monday the First Team will make their first train in the new training complex (built in 15 months!!), the Academy has been working there during the last 40 days.
http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/equipo_ciudad_real_madrid_27333.htm
When the mini-stadium be finish (it was begun in august and want to finish it in january!!), is going to be constructed the 1B fase with a mass media building, a training area for the Basketball team and the Real Madrid Arena.
And then the second fase...

The presidente of the Citic Guoan and important chinese businessmen visiting the new training center in a 90 minutes tour.
http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/shilin_li_presidente_citic_guoan_27296.htm

is it possible that they could build a new " bernabeu " inside the ciudad real in the future ? if they build a new 20000 seats arena , then they could build a +100000 stadium with selling of their current one ( which is limited *in capacity* in spite of modernizing , new roof etc... ) and its ground near the avenida castellana , they'd win huge amount of money . There was that plan/option included by Lamela for the whole project to increase spectacularily the mini-stadium to this capacity .

^^ It is a reality to face in the future by the club, Antigr12.
Bernabéu stadium is in its final period of life... probably it'll last 5 or 8 years more, but a new stadium is highly required by the club's current and future status. A stadium with more capacity (around 100k), a modern and astounding design and plenty of facilities such as restaurants, shops... even a hotel, if it's possible, it's highly desirable in a short period of time.

^I,m not sure if building a new stadium is such a good idea.The Bernabeu is not the best stadium in the world.But it would have to be in the top ten.
I think that the real problem lies in the fact that where ever they build it.It won't be in such a prestigious location as the Castellana.
Correct me if i'm wrong.But i believe that the Bernabeu has a capacity to seat 80,000 spectators.And with all the renovations has finally become a five star stadium according to u.e.f.a.
So i don't know if building a new stadium far away from the city to increase the capacity by another 20,000 spectators is worth it at all.
And have in mind that even if they decide to build the most stunning stadium on the planet.Some one else will always build a better one in the future.And then another one and so on.
I think the current stadium is good enough.And in a location that's the envy of every other football club in the world.So i think they should just leave it in its unique location.

Correct me if i'm wrong.But i believe that the Bernabeu has a capacity to seat 80,000 spectators.And with all the renovations has finally become a five star stadium according to u.e.f.a.
80.354 normal seats + 3.800 VIP seats + media, club workers, police,...
I think Real Madrid don't need a bigger stadium. Higher seats are in the "limit" of differ the football players.
Bernabeu is not a five stars stadium because of its location :weird: . You know how UEFA works...
The UEFA congratuleted the club for the extraordinary quality of the stadium but used the excuse that it was not possible to control the advertising in such a centric place.; the buildings and shops that surround it are full of advertising cartels. Always the money...
The best players in the world can not play and enjoy an international final in a historical and modern place like Bernabeu Stadium because of a stupid thing.

I stated that the Bernabeu became a 5 star stadium after the renovations.Not due to its location.I only said its location was unique.They are two different things.I guess English is not your first language.So i understand.

Anyway uefa are money hungry pricks.Goooooo Real Madrid.

I stated that the Bernabeu became a 5 star stadium after the renovations.Not due to its location.I only said its location was unique.They are two different things.I guess English is not your first language.So i understand.
I understood what you said, the problem is my english :D
I was trying to say that at this moment the Bernabeu is not a five stars stadium, the uefa has not given it this honor. The UEFA have put a silly excuse,his sponsors would not have exclusivity because the stadium is surrounded with marks/brands due to his centric location.
When I said " :weird: " I was talking about the UEFA.

That was the real reason??? Phucking UEFA!!!!!
Anyway, the stadium is getting older... Another idea: Why not to completely refurbish Bernabéu from its foundations?

I understood what you said, the problem is my english :D
I was trying to say that at this moment the Bernabeu is not a five stars stadium, the uefa has not given it this honor. The UEFA have put a silly excuse,his sponsors would not have exclusivity because the stadium is surrounded with marks/brands due to his centric location.
When I said " :weird: " I was talking about the UEFA.

Sorry Eli.I obviously misunderstood you.Are we still amigos? :cheers:

That was the real reason??? Phucking UEFA!!!!!
Anyway, the stadium is getting older... Another idea: Why not to completely refurbish Bernabéu from its foundations?

I think that is a fantastic idea :okay:

I understood what you said, the problem is my english :D
I was trying to say that at this moment the Bernabeu is not a five stars stadium, the uefa has not given it this honor. The UEFA have put a silly excuse,his sponsors would not have exclusivity because the stadium is surrounded with marks/brands due to his centric location.
When I said " :weird: " I was talking about the UEFA.


i heard too that after the renovations, bernabeu has become a 5-stars stadium this year

i heard too that after the renovations, bernabeu has become a 5-stars stadium this year
It is not a five stars stadium, trusts in me. When it happens, the UEFA puts this plate in the stadium.

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/6904/plauef8xr3az.gif

It is shameful that the Bernabéu does not have this title and other out of date stadiums...

First day in the new training center:
http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/ciudad_real_madrid_equipo_27379.htm
http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/estreno_ciudad_real_madrid_27381.htm


Sorry Eli.I obviously misunderstood you.Are we still amigos? :cheers:
Of course, amigo; hahaha
That's a sample of my friendship, I dedicate you this pics as Guti dedicated, the match against Betis, to Di Stefano and Sacchi ;) :D .

It might be the mini-stadium in January (8.000 seats)
http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/6126/80001au.jpg

It might be the mini-stadium in some years (25.000 seats); in font of it, the Real Madrid Arena
http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/9167/250008lr.jpg

http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/9215/creafoto8ir.jpg

http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/8820/creafoto10lz.jpg

The offices and mass media building (placed between the first team area and the mini-stadium).
http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/8708/slide0278image0071jz.jpg

I'll promise you some pics of the area. Soon.

^^ Crocodine don't forget this promise!!!
I would like to see actual pics, I love this exciting RealMadrid project.

Eli, ¿donde conseguiste esas imagenes? (Eli, where did you get those pics?)

Eli, ¿donde conseguiste esas imagenes? (Eli, where did you get those pics?)
The last five ones?
The 3th and the 4th in the spanish thread where you wrote this morning :)
The first, the second and 5th in realmadrid.com. In this page http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/22800.htm you have ancient information and you can find a Power Point archive (Dossier Prensa 78'7 MB) with a lot of renders.

^^ Crocodine don't forget this promise!!!

I wouldn't. You'll see. ;)

The last five ones?
The 3th and the 4th in the spanish thread where you wrote this morning :)
The first, the second and 5th in realmadrid.com. In this page http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/22800.htm you have ancient information and you can find a Power Point archive (Dossier Prensa 78'7 MB) with a lot of renders.

Thank you! :D

The Stadium today: 80.000 Seats.

http://www.realmadrid-futbol.com/377.jpg


The Stadium in four years time:

http://www.realmadrid-futbol.com/bernabeu_cubierto_01.jpg

http://www.realmadrid-futbol.com/vista_interior_nuevo_bernabeu.jpg

http://www.realmadrid-futbol.com/interior_nuevo_proyecto.jpg

Closing the Stadium will cost 30.000.000 Euros. :cheers:

The most important changes:

14-12-1947
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8634/011412470tz.jpg

60's-70's
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/2227/s2ze.jpg

80's
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8130/s1nr.png

90's
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/5752/s4md.jpg

nowadays (the new front)
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/6130/0534365755232327ffp583dot3e233.jpg

the future
what Perico said...

Santiago Bernabéu, always in construction!



I don't want to sell it... :cry:

Great stadium
Shame about the team!

BARCA! BARCA! BARCA!

Barcelona I would say are the best in the world what a team!

pffffffffffffffffhahahahahahahahahah............. have a nice day, time for important things


CIUDAD DEL REAL MADRID

Football area
initial plan
http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/2377/0358pry0320planta20usos1qw.jpg

model
http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/554/0358pry0920maqueta1pt.jpg

http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/4619/0358pry0420maqueta20fase2015rr.jpg

first team
http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/1658/0358pry0620primer20equipo0gy.jpg

academy
http://www.lamela.com/DEPOT/fotos/0358_-_pry_-_07%20cat%20inferiores.jpg


You can find this and other pics in http://www.lamela.com (training center and stadium)

Cual es la "arena" ?

If the Stadium is AWESOME the history of the club is INCREDIBLE worldwide:

http://www.realmadrid.com/palmares/portada_eng.htm

Have a nice day!! :) :) :)

The new trophies tour in the Bernabéu Stadium.
http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/inaugurada_fase_exposicion_27452.htm


Cual es la "arena" ?
We don't know many things about the Arena. Only the situation, the capacity, a "humble" model and a "humble" render; but not sure at all.


+Situation:
If you see the 7th post, at first the Arena was placed in the comercial area. Next to the mini-stadium there was a parking and between the mini and de first football team area, there was two pavilions: one was for the basketball Academy and the other was a training pavilion for the first basketball team. You can see the same distribution in the 47th post.

The last plan I saw is this.The Arena is included in the sports area, next to the mini. The two training pavilions disappear ¿? and in the same place there's an offices and media building.
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/9741/1bbe8a5500mapaciudadrealmadrid.jpg

More detail
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/1874/02ttt0tm.png

I don't know if it is definitive.


+Capacity:
18.000 (if Real Madrid Basketball turns in a NBA team, it needs to be a NBA Arena; NBA has its requirements: capacity, VIP seats, parking seats,...)


+The model:
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/3733/03103tm.jpg


+The render:
37th post, 2º picture

This thread must be on top :D

3.000 people visited the Bernabéu Tour and the new trophies tour, in five hours!!!http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/tour_bernabeu_sala_trofeos_27671.htm

eli I heard last weekend that the new Real Madrid basketball arena is already being built

¿is it true?

Real Madrid 74-78 Gran Canaria
Real Sociedad 2-2 Real Madrid
The press continua with the attack and giving the championship to Barcelona (in november!). Everybody in Spain is criticizing the coaches and the players...... But they are not galactics, they are human beings.
We must learn to support the teams now, even days like this. RealMadrid fans are the best winners but we are not very good losers :dunno: :wink2:

eli I heard last weekend that the new Real Madrid basketball arena is already being built
¿is it true?
:shocked: I don't know, I heard that they are building the Mini-stadium and the next thing is the Media building. I heard too that RealMadrid Basketball has a 2 years rent contract with the current pavilion (Palacio Vistalegre :ohno:, a cover bullring with 15.000 seats):
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/512/gra347357ol.jpg

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/6821/sinttulo15bk.jpg

But if your information is true it's a great idea to build it first, I think the Arena is more important than the Mini. Maybe Crocodine can give us some info soon ;)

80's
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8130/s1nr.png

90's
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/5752/s4md.jpg
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Am I the only one who think the stadium actually looked more modern in its WC 82 form?

^^ Maybe...

By the way, the second pic you've quoted doesn't shows the stadium as is today.

@ 2005: The same team who has won 2 Champions League titles, 2 La Liga titles, 2 Spanish' Supercup titles, 1 Intercontinental Cup title and 1 European Supercup title in this last 5 years?

Edit: Photos on this next week, i swear.

All of that and they still are a terrible underachieving club

Among the render of the sport city this that is a palace of sports but I don't know if it will be made. .

http://images5.theimagehosting.com/Ciudad deportiva RM 1.jpg (http://www.theimagehosting.com)

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/7061/ciudad20deportiva20rm2013sl.jpg

^^ this is not the basketball Arena.
It is a Lamela proposal of a new stadium (100.000 seats) in La Ciudad del RealMadrid. antigr12 talk about this in the 25th post.
Another views:
http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/452/19su.png

RonJon found this link where you can read more things about this:
Nuevo estadio (http://www.parquedevaldebebas.com/muestra_notaprensa.php?archivo=QVKfIVK3MBKfYNKvU5WXMhGjIFS=IlKTERKDIZKbkNKPMFGnMBGrU1GnIpKPItOfQNWjYha7UxabYleLcRajcBGXIVGf&tipo=pdf)

What about the extension of camp nou

What about the extension of camp nou
Is it a joke? :eek:
I never heard it and I think it has no sense because they "never" (once or twice) fill their 98.000 seats stadium. At this moment they are "the best team on the earth", according to the spanish press, and "have the best player in the world" but last weekend there are only 50.000 people in the stadium. It's a bit sad to see this bigs stadiums half empty. Delle Alpi is going to be reduced and it is not shameful, it is normal/logical

the extension work is being made by ricardo bofill ( no news since the info in april )

the extension work is being made by ricardo bofill ( no news since the info in april )
Is this stadium in construction nowadays? I din't know anything
Of what does Bofill's extension consist? I don't like Bofill at all but maybe in sports facilities...

115000 seats , improvements inside the structure etc... usual stuff for a big renovation , but no construction yet if this project has not been scrapped . The info dates from april and no further news so we don't know ; bofill admitted that the work was not a problem because the camp nou was an old construction .

Kind of misses the point.

It's well known that a few years ago (before Real Madrid started splashing out tens of millions on the likes of Zidane, Figo, Ronaldo etc, if I remember correctly) Real Madrid had huge debts. Then the Madrid City council saved Real by paying a huge sum to buy their training ground. It was a big scandal because everyone knew that the council had paid far, far too much for the land. In effect, they were bankrolling a football club with the public's money.

you should be more informed before talk about anything... the old Real Madrid's "ciudad deportiva", was not bought by the city council, they simply allowed the sale to private companies with a new use for the land (not only that, but the council itself earned money with the operation). and if you know something about Madrid, you must know that this land is in the natural extension of the financial zone of the city, so it's completely logical to change the "sport use" to a "financial use"

All of that and they still are a terrible underachieving club
All of that and more, you'll see.
I think "terrible underachieving" it's a hard description of Real Madrid, there are good times and bad times, it always happen. This year can be a good year.

+Ajax; 4 Champion' League
+Nottinghan Forest: 2 Champion' League
+Benfica: 2 Champion' League
+Oporto: 2 Champion' League
+Celtic Glasgow: 1 Champion' League
+Feyenoord: 1 Champion' League
+Hamburg: 1 Champion' League
+Steaua Bucarest: 1 Champion' League
+PSV: 1 Champion' League
+Red Star: 1 Champion' League
+Olympic Marsella: 1 Champion' League
+Borussia Dortmund: 1 Champion' League
+Aston Villa: 1 Champion' League
+Arsenal: .... I don't think Arsenal is an underachieving club; and next year you are going to have a great new stadium and many other things as bars, restaurants, a museum, a comercial zone, a hotel, sports centres, health clubs, a residential development, office buildings,.... a 54 acres complex, the biggest development since Canary Wharf. You must be proud as we are.

^^ You've forgotten F.C. Barcelona as one time Champions League cup winners. :D

All of that and they still are a terrible underachieving club

:rofl:
How ignorant (i'd like to say "stupid", but that would brig me) some people can be. :hilarious

^^ You've forgotten F.C. Barcelona as one time Champions League cup winners. :D

and Milan (6), Liverpool (5), Bayern Munich (4), Manchester United (2), Juve (2), Inter (2).....life is life ;)

Am I the only one who think the stadium actually looked more modern in its WC 82 form?
¿more modern?

+If you are talking about Modern Architecture; you know, International Style, the Masters of Racionalism, 1st half of the XX century,... maybe you are right. For me the 82WorldChampionship form is very elegant.
You must know that the 90's form is the result of a very particular situation: Real Madrid needed more seats but they don't have more square meters, and they don't had money and need a cheap solution re-using the cover.
Maybe is not the more nice solution but I think it is a very intelligent solution that makes it very attractive; and I love the concrete treatment and the effects of lights and shades that it provokes.

+But if you talk about new materials, high technology... I think the pics I showed you could have cheated you.
Here you are some pics that maybe reflect the changes... or maybe not:

-50's (Santiago Bernabéu, Di Stefano, Gento, Puskas, Muñoz,... in the stadium)
http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/3271/122b5e5distefano01p9mr.jpg http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/3559/foto72ui.jpg

http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/4517/235granmadridde19607zt.jpg

http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/9955/bernabeudistefano6pq.jpg http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/8605/inauguracionalineacion2up.jpg

-60's-70's (a new front)
http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/783/00foto55wd.jpg

http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/2121/01luces12pw.jpg

http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/2198/03cidbernabeu9xm.jpg

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/5279/031untitledhok6xsnv9.png

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/7756/04untitled1110tt.png

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/7743/05untitledlo1vn.png

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/3955/061805778bc.jpg

-80's (first pic; the green zone is el Campo de las Naciones, the area next to the new Real Madrid training center of Valdebebas).
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/9535/19878ke.jpg

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/7915/santibernabeu8vm.jpg

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/5835/sinttulok3xr.jpg

-90's (you have more pics in http://www.lamela.com/ , EXTENSION OF FOOTBALL STADIUM REAL MADRID).
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/1778/0218tob0620evolucion20obra0dr.jpg

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/8039/obras2fi.jpg

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/3639/santiagobernabeu026ho.jpg

-Today (the last four years the change is spectacular).
*Heating
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/5075/001581xj.jpg

*The bars
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/3300/014097mg.jpg http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/7507/024103gf.jpg

*The new mechanical stairs
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/8/034d6485escalerasmec06288p5nj.jpg http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/5574/04150f1d5florentinoescaleras28.jpg

*The bathrooms
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/8784/0592911eb.jpg

*The elevators
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/3111/08bernabeu108tf.gif http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/6605/0678611gm.jpg

*The new boxes, the new grade (More pics in http://www.lamela.com/ , FAÇADE AND INTERIOR DESIGN BERNABEU STADIUM.), vip zones, media zones, safety... companies area http://www.realmadrid.es/serviciosempresas/portada_eng.htm
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/8210/14deseptiembre20031sc.jpg

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/2016/0949cz.jpg

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/1466/10recorte1zi.jpg http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/8351/11bernabeu21yl.jpg

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/9413/12pic01497jf.jpg

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/2881/14creafoto41ps.jpg

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/5682/13vistabernabeu0kz1sn.jpg

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/5844/15bernabeucelta1411mb8jq.jpg

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/5494/16palcos16fz.jpg

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/7046/17palcosvip9cm4ix.jpg

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/9546/18lyuitgrte0zl.jpg

*The exterior (I don't like very much the glasses) is not finished.
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/867/19creafoto10gn.jpg

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/1811/20bernabeu13vp7hm.jpg

*2 restaurants: Puerta 57 ( http://www.puerta57.com/ ) and Real Café (http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/rma24152.htm and http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/real_cafe_bernabeu_24321.htm)
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/7016/248618qw.jpg http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/7584/238596ip.jpg http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/6227/220828ge.jpg

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/2374/211cb7905288realcafe1p1oh.jpg

*A new building in the east front with parking, a huge official shop, offices, auditorium,... and maybe another restaurant in the top of the stadium and a new mall. In construcction.
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/7365/250672sf.jpg



If you have the opportunity, you should visit it.
http://www.realmadrid.es/elclub/tour/portada_eng.htm

Thanx for the info :okay:

That's one hell of a nice stadium.Anybody visiting Madrid should visit it.Especially the trophy museum.It's unbelievable.I remember visiting the trophy museum of the camp nou.And i thought.My god.Real Madrid should give them a few trophies so their museum could look a bit more respectable he,he.
All in all.Madrid is the biggest club in the world.

That's one hell of a nice stadium.Anybody visiting Madrid should visit it.Especially the trophy museum.It's unbelievable.I remember visiting the trophy museum of the camp nou.And i thought.My god.Real Madrid should give them a few trophies so their museum could look a bit more respectable he,he.
All in all.Madrid is the biggest club in the world.

Well, Real Madrid museum is the second most visited museum in town after Prado museum.
And if you want to see 9 European Champions league cups together.... :) one after another.... 1...2....3....4....5...6...7...8......9.... :nuts: then there is only one place in the world: Real Madrid Stadium!

Real Madrid's problem: the board (directive), a group of millionaires businessmen (and an ex-footballplayer) that the president already cannot control. They are not the owners of the club but gives his opinion as if they had the trainer's title and decides on football and basketball without having not even idea, being influenced for his acquaintances and for the press. But whom nobody demands responsibilities. One man, one vote; stupid men, stupid votes... stupid decisions.
"The new coach López Caro" and "play with reverves without quality", are some of his "brilliant" ideas. They are in the most comfortable situation, they are the cancer of Real Madrid and they are destroying it but nobody knows those who are.

Capricious fans, manipulative press, board (directive) deified ... some years without trophies it is a good medicine, our dose of humility after a very good epoch; and it is not not bad at all, it always has happened this way along the history. We must be calm, we will return.

http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/1554/pic02261eb.jpg

This year or in ten years but we will get our 10th champion's league.





I try to be rational but... :gaah: ¡¡we all have a bad day!!

Don't worry Eli.The good days will return.

^^ For sure. And sooner than later.

I promised some pictures of Real Madrid's new Ciudad Deportiva, but my computer crashed some days ago and i'm still trying to recover it. Sorry guys. I'll post the pics ASAP.

Olimpiakos 2-1 Real Madrid
I don't trust in this trainer, I don't trust in the babyreserves, I don't trust in the football manager (who is the Real Madrid football manager?), I don't trust in the directives... I hate football inculture, the people who think that anyone can be a trainer.
In football I only trust in Raúl, Maldini, Valdano, Luxa and Mourinho, they never disappoint ME. They are not populist and funny men so they don't have the fondness of the football fans, but they are tireless workers and honesty football people (a rare species) and everyone must be quiet whem they talk about football.
Intelligent people would not accept a Real Madrid working place at this moment, it is a professional suicide.
Fernando Hierro football manager according to the press???? It's a tragedy. This can only guide Real Madrid to "Florentino out, Butragueño president (his only aim)"; this it's not a tragedy, it's even worse and not because Florentino goes away but for how dangerous is "Goldilocks" with the power. :no:

Yes Peshu, (I don't know when but) Glory will return home, I hope it find the way in spite of the fog :D .
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/1151/42cimg39970dx.jpg

Grande Croco!! :okay: , I have desire of seeing how the works go there. I hope to visit Madrid soon, there's a lot of time that I do not go. There are many things that I want to see and among them, La Ciudad del Real Madrid. I love Madrid!!

Well I'm a Barca fan, but if you want the good days to return, get rid of this crappy president, he's destroying the club. The coaches, some players and the fans have to pay for it.

^^ First of all, you're not welcomed here. :tongue: :jk:
This crappy president saved Real Madrid from bankrupcy, among many other achievements.

Yes, it is clear that with the football team he is not capable of being kept to the margin but the rest...
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4610/20044rp.jpg

We do not have many alternatives. Anyone cannot be a Real Madrid president, is a very greedy position and it is possible that another person take advantage of the situation and cheat us :dunno:
Madridistas must be intelligent in this election.

Well i can say one positive thing about this president.He has pretty much converted Real Madrid into the best known club in the world.They have always been the most successful.But nowdays even in non footballing countries Madrid is the most respected football club in the world.Due to ignorance this was not the case a few years ago.Especially in the non-footballing nations.Plus he has also finally converted the club into the richest in the world.Which is quite logical.Seeing that they are the greatest :banana:

Other future training center: Chelsea's Cobham Training Center
At a cost of around £20 million and completed in July 2006, the development will include 15 football pitches, three of which will have under-soil heating, an indoor artificial pitch and the latest medical facilities.
The site, part of 50 acres bought from Imperial College will be home to the first-team and academy players.
Monday, Sep 27, 2004

CHELSEA GO-AHEAD FOR COBHAM
Chelsea are delighted to announce that final planning permission for their academy and training facility at Cobham has been granted.
The news brings to an end the club’s long search for a training ground to rival the best facilities anywhere in Europe.
Elmbridge Borough Council planning committee approved the scheme last Monday after a public consultation period that began in July. It is hoped that the site will be fully operational in July 2006.
The multi-million pound state-of-the-art facility will be home to the club’s academy and all its professional players, including the first team squad under manager Jose Mourinho.
It is one of the largest investments in academy, youth and community football programmes ever undertaken by a football club.
The project is designed to unify all football aspects at the club, from the youngest academy player to the most experienced international footballer and will contain the latest in training and rehabilitation equipment. There will also be a substantial community programme in the local area.
Mourinho said: “This is fantastic news for Chelsea. One of the reasons I joined the club was the commitment that Mr Abramovich and the board showed about investing in youth.
“With the academy, youth, reserves and first team all on the same site, this will act as an inspiration for the young players at Chelsea.
“A modern and top training ground is also important for first team players. Our current home at Harlington is an excellent facility but the club needs its own home for training and top players want to know about the facilities and their environment for work before they join a club. If we can tell them we have the best training ground this is a big advantage. I am looking forward to moving there.”
Chief executive Peter Kenyon said: “The Cobham development is central to the future of the club and we are delighted we now have the final go-ahead.
“Developing home grown players is a vitally important goal for Chelsea. One of the many reasons we wanted Jose is that he was also firmly committed to developing our academy, youth and reserve structure.
“Cobham gives us the perfect platform for that. We are also totally committed to developing a community programme in the local area and we look forward to a long and mutually beneficial partnership with Elmbridge Borough Council and its residents who have been extremely supportive and positive.
“The club would also like to put on record its thanks to our company secretary, Alan Shaw, whose tireless work on this project with the local council, has ensured its smooth progress to a positive conclusion.”
The details of the community programme are currently being discussed by our Football in the Community department and Elmbridge Leisure Services. The site design has been tailored for community use.
Shaun Gore, director of Chelsea’s Football in the Community said: “The training facilities at Cobham will be a massive step forward for Chelsea. Not only will we have state of the art playing and training facilities, it will also give the club a solid foundation from which to build.
“The Football in the Community Department already has a very proactive working relationship with Elmbridge Leisure Services and development team and they will be working closely in the planning of a fully comprehensive community development programme.
“The programme will encompass projects surrounding healthy lifestyles, education and football development. However there will be flexibility towards the needs of the local community.
“The opportunity to use the magnificent facilities at Cobham through the community scheme will be a fantastic prospect for the local people of Elmbridge and we look forward to working with them.”
One of the key factors in the planning approval process was the agreement of all sides that the design of the main building would need to blend in with the local landscape.
To that end Alan Shaw, and the architects, AFL, based in Manchester, worked hard in consultation with the planning authorities to come up with the idea of a curved roof with a grass surface which would remain faithful to the surroundings. The height of the main building is no taller than any of the buildings in the immediate area.
Initial planning permission for a facility to accommodate the academy and professional players was granted in September 2003. This was for 2000m sq. Chelsea then sought additional permission and the main building was substantially redesigned which reduced the overall footprint but increased its size by way of a basement built into the ground. One of the most distinctive aspects of the new design is a moat around the main building to allow light into the basement.

Facts about Cobham:
- total size of facility 3,338m sq
- 15 football pitches
- 6 pitches recently re-laid to highest Premiership standard
- 3 with revolutionary under soil heating design
- 1 indoor artificial grass pitch for winter use
- the latest in training and rehabilitation equipment
- 24 hour security
- grass roof on main building for environmental purposes
- moat around main building to allow light into basement area

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/281/newscobham10dt.jpg
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/960/newscobham23kd.jpg
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/8945/newscobham36vo.jpg
If you have more info about this project, I would like to see it.

In March 2001 Juventus bought “Campi di Vinovo S.p.A.”, society owner of a ground of around 500.000 square meters/125 acres (ex racecourse of the gallop of the city of Turin), with the purpose to realize a new and futuristic Training Center and a "Commercial Park" for activity leisure & retail.
This new training center of Juventus, Mondo Juve, is located in Vinovo-Nichelino. I think the first team released it last summer. The Academy players have been there since June 2004.

The original area
http://img415.imageshack.us/img415/9265/stad32pr.jpg

Render
http://img415.imageshack.us/img415/8199/stad44op.jpg

This is London Colney, a great training centre where our next Champion's League rival work.
Arsenal's training complex based at Shenley was opened on 11th October 1999 by then sports minister Kate Hoey. Before the centre's opening Arsenal had previously trained on a ground owned by University college London. Arsenal are now settled into their Shenley complex which rates as one of the very best in Europe. The £10m Shenley complex comprises of a 2500sq metre building with 8 outdoor football pitches, some of which are under soiled heated.
Arsene Wenger was instrumental in the training ground development. When Arsene Wenger first arrived he was shocked that a club the size of Arsenal did not own their own facilities. In 1997 the Arsenal board agreed to Wenger's request and set the wheels in motion to create a purpose built facility where the club could train uninterrupted with the best facilities available. In September of 1998 Arsenal were given planning permission to construct a new complex at Shenley in Hertfordshire.
As well as having put forward the possibility of a new training centre Wenger was also heavily involved with the development of the centre and what facilities should be incorporated to achieve the best results. In a fact finding process to the facilities of the new complex Wenger set about on a world tour taking in the best ideas from clubs such as Nantes, Ajax, Auxerre, Bayern Munich, and Tokyo, all of which are renowned for producing young players for their first teams.
Wenger worked closely alongside project architect Richard Marshall and project manager Peter Kelsall insisting on the best materials and equipment for the centre and also sought feedback and ideas from his fitness staff including: Physio Gary Lewin and fitness coach Tony Colbert. The end product is a training facility to rival anything previously built, a facility with the best training, exercise and recuperation facilities in Europe.

Facilities:
10 indoor and outdoor pitches
Hydro-therapy pool
Steam room and massage baths
Gym facilities
Canteen
Media areas
Treatment rooms and administration rooms
Swimming pools
Doctor's consultancy
Restaurant
Warm up rooms
Common room
Rooms for a doctor, manager, coaches and youth officer

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I get the info here http://www.arsenal-land.co.uk/Club/Shenley.htm

We are going to play against an english club in Champion's League so I want to talk about some relationship between Real Madrid and England...
Real Madrid have and had really great english players in its history, 11 untill now. The last ones are McManaman, Owen, Beckham and Woodgate (Woody is going to surprise many people with his great football in a few months) but I want to remember Laurie Cunningham (08-03-1956 Holloway, England).
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Laurie, English with Jamaican origin, came from Birmingham (West Bromwich Albion) to Madrid in 1979 and the club paid for him one million pounds sterlings (it was the most expensive player of Real Madrid up to that moment). He was an elastic, fast, elegant and extremely technical player, a football juggler that amazed the Real Madrid fans in his first year and turned him into an idol. It was memorable his great game against Barcelona. But at the end of this first season, he broke a toe and he had to be had an operation. A few days later someone saw him with the plaster/stucco in his foot dancing in a known discotheque of Madrid (Madrid the best clubbing in the world, maybe it was not his fault ;) ), a big scandal was formed, and from that day everything started going badly. He was in Madrid another two seasons but he did not return to be the same and everybody was speaking more of his conflicts that of his football. He played for Manchester United and Olympique Marseille too. Cunningham was extrovert and festive but his life was marked by the tragedy and in 1989 he died in Madrid in a car accident.
A worthy Real Madrid player who is a part of the history of this club.

The day he signed for Real Madrid with Luis de Carlos, president of the club in that moment
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Doing jugglings the day of his presentation
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His amazing game against Barcelona
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Very good physically...
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... but a certain sloth
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He played and won the "whitest" final of the King's Cup (Spanish Cup) of the history, this which only Real Madrid could win. On June 4, 1980 there was celebrated the final of the King's Cup who was facing Real Madrid CF against Castilla CF (the Real Madrid reserves team) in Bernabéu Stadium; this day the result was the least important thing (6-1). The whole Europe was surprised and valued the work of formation that Real Madrid realizes.
In the pic Cunningham and other players of the first team changed the shirt with some reserves. Both teams celebrating the victory
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Nowadays the regulation of the Spanish Federation of Football and UEFA does not allow that reserves teams play the King's Cup in spite of being able to play in professional divisions (Real Madrid reserves team plays in the second Spanish division this season).
Play the Cup final allowed that Castilla FC could play the Cup Winner's Cup the following season, the first and the last time that a reserves team plays an international competition. At the same time the first team was competing in Champion's League. Castilla CF faced West Ham and played very well; they win the first game in a full Bernabéu Stadium (3-1) but the inexperience made him be eliminated in the second game (5-1).
Before the appearance of Castilla FC, Real Madrid had another mithycal "subsidiary" team called Plus Ultra.
Plus Ultra (1930-1972), Castilla CF (1972-1990), Real Madrid B (1990-2005), Real Madrid Castilla (2005-?); a lot of great football players was formed in that teams.
Nowadays the shield of Real Madrid CF and that of Real Madrid Castilla are the same.
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/3155/zrecorte8zx.jpg

This one was the shield of Castilla FC, it was inspired by the shield of Real Madrid FC.
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For Eli -

There's already a thread about the proposed new Tottenham training ground but, in case you haven't seen it. The main building will have a footprint of 115 metres by 75 metres and will be three stories high, one of which (like Chelsea's) will be below ground level. The facility will be built on a 56 acre site (about 23 hectares):

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Tottenham Hotspur Football Club has submitted a planning application for a new Training Centre and Community Partnership Development at Bulls Cross, Enfield.

The Club’s plans include a pavilion building that will house ‘leading edge’ training and rehabilitation facilities for both the First Team squad and Youth Academy players. The pavilion’s main features will include a fitness and rehabilitation gymnasium, hydrotherapy and treatment areas, physiotherapy areas, a covered practice pitch, changing rooms, media room, parents’ lounge, players and staff dining areas. There will also be an education suite, computer centre and study facilities for the Youth Academy players.

The landscaped grounds of the training centre will feature four full size first team practice pitches which will match the dimensions of the Club’s White Hart Lane pitch, further practice pitches together with goal keeping practice areas.

For the Youth Academy there will be seven practice pitches of various sizes to suit each of the different age groups training plus additional outdoor all weather training areas.

The plans also include the creation of a dedicated Community Partnership development that will create a unique opportunity to deliver the most dynamic community programme in football.

The Community Partnership facility will provide four pitches (one artificial and three natural turf), changing facilities, an indoor multi purpose hall, education suite with 20 computer stations and two teachers’ offices. It will also serve as the head office for the administration of Tottenham Hotspur Community. The activities at the community facility will be developed in partnership with the local authority, local schools and other organisations.

Daniel Levy, Chairman, Tottenham Hotspur, said: "Our new Centre will provide us with the highest standard of facilities for our First team and allow us to attract and nurture the best young talent for future Tottenham Hotspur teams. In designing the facility we worked hard to ensure it is sympathetic to the local surroundings and environment, and that it will be of real benefit to the local community. We shall be consulting the local populace and hope that they will welcome this scheme and the contribution it makes to the area."

Kathryn Robinson, Director of Community Development, added: "The Community programme that the new facility will be able to host and deliver will be the most innovative of its kind in the country and provide the opportunity for a unique partnership with the Local Authority and other local organisations."

The planning application will be considered by the London Borough of Enfield later this year.

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There's also a PDF file with two or three more (bigger and better pictures) here:

http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/enfieldtg.pdf

^^ Of course, I saw it and I like it so much :okay:
I was going to ask you and to 2005 if I could take your info but you are more rapid than me ;)
People should see this detailed plan, it is amazing http://www.enfieldpressoc.org.uk/thfc_plans.pdf
Thanks

I hope your ready to get rocked by the Arsenal

^^ Arse*** doesn't rock anything outside the islands, my mate.

^ After the last 3 weeks you could say we don't even rock anything inside the islands.

I feel sorry for Arsenal, really. It's my favourite Premiership club. I hope the good days come back soon!!

i dont like it

I feel sorry for Arsenal, really. It's my favourite Premiership club. I hope the good days come back soon!!

Well if your a Real Madrid supporter you should, you don't want Henry to be going off to Barcelona.

i dont like it

Yes, you're right, i also don't like srilankan cinema.

@ Zaqattaq: Henry to FC. Barcelona will only bring problems to that club. Assuming they're looking for a pure striker in the figure of Henry, Samuel Eto'o will had to fall back several meters but... into which position? Which player will then have to watch the games from the substitutes bench? It'll be Messi? Deco? Giuly? It'll be Eto'o himself?
But, wait, the most important thing is: Do FC. Barcelona have the money required to buy Henry? Let's not forget that Barça has a debt of over 400 Mio. € Besides, they haven't payed Real Madrid and Mallorca FC. yet for the move of Samuel Eto'o...

I agree, they should not mess with their current chemistry. Right now they are the best team in the world and I don't think they should put another superstar up there or it will just take away from Eto'o.

Why we are so yokels? When we have a top trainer as Luxa, we despise him and we press until the club throw him. We only stand the mediocre trainers; we said that they are humbles, they feel Real Madrid in his heart,... garbage!!
We must be clear, Lopez Caro has no idea of what elite football means, is a poor man used by the club to stop the critiques in the short term. I bet that in January he will return to the reserves team.

We have been lucky because Arsenal was the most weakest team to whom we could face, but Arsenal is even more luckier because Real Madrid:
+has a lost trainer who does not orders on nobody, a marionette.
+we are blinded, we want that reserves play in the first team and they are not at the level of the first division.
+we play every game as visitors, even in Bernabéu. We have 80.000 members that seems they enjoy whistling to the team and pressing the players.

zaqattaq, I think that say that Barça is the best team in the world is a free opinion. First, they will have to demonstrate it with titles (I am talking about being a winning team and not win a league and continuing sleeping 5 years more, we will see); secondly, they continue without hooking the supporters (61.000 supportes last game in a 98.00 stadium), ¿what is happening?; and thirdly, there is only two teams that offer safety and witness and the name are Juventus and Chelsea (sorry but it's my opinion ;) ), the others can win and lose against anyone.

Eli, the media threw Luxa and some of the brazilian players to the angry mob. Yes, the same media that a year ago put Luxa in the Mount Olympus.
The Bernabeu spectators are very driven. They don't have any personality at all... Look, there's still many people that whistles Ronaldo every single time he touches the ball.
There's a difference between a corporation and a football club: The fanatic and media driven supporters. That's the big issue with Real Madrid today.
We must clean those bastards from the Bernabeu grades.

Besides, they pay in some cases a respectable amount of money for their tickets and the only thing they do is to whistle. Poor brainless bastards...

Whats wrong with just training at the stadium itself? It must be a pain for the players to have to drive all the way out to the middle of whoop-whoop just to train when you have a perfectly decent ground in the middle of the city.

Whats wrong with just training at the stadium itself? It must be a pain for the players to have to drive all the way out to the middle of whoop-whoop just to train when you have a perfectly decent ground in the middle of the city.

Training would tear up the pitch too much.

Whats wrong with just training at the stadium itself? It must be a pain for the players to have to drive all the way out to the middle of whoop-whoop just to train when you have a perfectly decent ground in the middle of the city.

Actually, most of the players live nearer to the new facilities than to the stadium. And, of course, the main reason is what Iain wrote.

We must clean those bastards from the Bernabeu grades.
Amen. I am glad to see that someone think the same way as me though the majority think that the supporters can do what they want. Be a Real Madrid member give a a lot of rights but it required a few duties; it is not only receive, Real Madrid fans must contribute. It is supposed that these 80.000 members represent all the Real Madrid fans but at this moment they do not represent me, and I believe that they don't represent anybody.
Bitter fanatics, Skinheads and Cigar smokers, out of this sacred stadium!!
Whats wrong with just training at the stadium itself?
As Iain1974 said, the grass suffer so much and the stadium don't have many important things: the gymnasium, the hidrotherapy for injured players,.... Fortunately the old training center of Real Madrid was in the middle of the city and the new training center (Valdebebas) is is near the urban center and next to the airport.
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"La Ciudad del Real Madrid" is placed in a zone where there is projected one of the most important developments of Europe. In a few years Valdebebas will transform in a very important neighborhood of Madrid.
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This is my christmas gift for the people who love or hate... but admires Real Madrid.





Maybe many people don't know it but Real Madrid is more than a football club. Besides the football it has had 25 successful sports sections:

+CYCLING
Vicente Carretero and Julián Berrendero took part of the II Vuelta a España, 1936 (the third best competition of the world cycling). Carretero won 5 stages and Berrendero was 4th in the general classification and was the first spanish cyclist. In that years Spain was a Republic so the shield/emblem of Real Madrid was the republican one (without the crown)
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+BOXING
Boxing in the Bernabéu stadium. In the 50's boxing was a very popular sport in Spain. "Young" Martín won the European Championship Flyweight defending Real Madrid
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+ATHLETICS
This sports section was created in 1930 and won several championships of Spain. In the pic, José Luis González, get the World Record of 1500 meters in covered facility in 1986
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+HANDBALL11
Champions of Spain in 51-52 campaign. It is the sports section that more followers was congregating in the stadium, after football. In the pic, a game of Handball11 in the Bernabéu Stadium with its clasicist form (50's)
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+HANDBALL7
Champions of Spain in 52-53 season.

+CHESS
Section founded in 1933. The best masters of that years competed with the chess-players of Real Madrid. Arturito Pomar, Fuentes, Sanz and Pérez won the Spanish Championship. Pic of the Spanish Championship 1943, Arturito Pomar (11 years) faces Fuentes
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+VOLLEYBALL
It was created in the 50's. It won 7 Spanish Leagues and 12 Spanish Cups. In the pic the team of the 82-83, this season won the League and the Cup but it was the last year that existed
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+ROWING
Pic in the reservoir of el Parque del Retiro. In 1954 the two first teams in the Spring Cup were Real Madrid B and Real Madrid A
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+BOLOS PALMA (SKITTLES?)

+FENCING

+GYMNASTICS RHYTHMIC

+GYMNASTICS ARTISTIC

+WEIGHT-LIFTING

+HOCKEY (over grass)

+ROLLER HOCKEY
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+ WRESTLING

+SWIMMING

+PELOTA

+PETANQUE

+BASEBALL (pelota-base)
This section was active from 1945 to 1963 and in this time it won 8 Spanish Leagues. The pic shows the celebration of the title in 1950, in the Bernabéu Stadium
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+RUGBY

+ARCHERY

+TABLE TENNIS

+TENNIS
Ok, I hope you believe what I am going to say. Real Madrid won a Tennis Grand Slam... Wimbledon!! Manolo Santana competed with the emblem of Real Madrid in two phases of his sports career. The first phase (first years of the 60's) won the Spanish Championship and the Torneo Conde Godó de Barcelona. In the second phase (1965-70's) he won another Spanish Championship and the prestigious english tournement. The pic was taked in July 1, 1966, that day Santana won Wimbledom with "Real Madrid in his heart"
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And finally....

The baskertball section is an example of the exigency that exists in Real Madrid (sometimes is excessive). In the NBA you play for showtime, in Europe you play to win and in Real Madrid you live to win (or maybe you win to live). Fortunately the basketball fans of Real Madrid are more reasonables than the football ones. But while basketball certainly draws less attention than in America, the pressure to win is still great in Madrid. Coaches receive intense scrutiny and often criticism. NBA coaching legend, George Karl, learned this when he coached Real several years back.
"In a place like Real Madrid, you have to win, or you'll get fired," Karl told CBS Sportsline.com's Frank Lawlor. "They don't give coaches there the time that you would get even in the NBA to build a team. The first year I thought I coached as well as I could have, but that's not how they saw it."
Despite facing the difficult task of leading the team following Real Madrid captain's death, Karl encountered pressure to resign after his first season in 1989-90. He returned for the 1991-92 campaign, but the results again fell short of lofty expectations. "I had fun coaching there, and we won a lot of games, but if you talked to people in Spain, they'd say I was a failure, because I didn't win a championship," Karl said.
People in America describes Karl as a "leader with the only ambition of winning", did he learn to win in Madrid?

+BASKETBALL
Basketball is a sport that I don't know very well but I am going to try to explain the best I could what Real Madrid Basketball means. I hope you excuses my ignorance and mistakes (and my terrible english, as usual); it is not easy to find information of european basketball, football eclipses everything.
It is the only RealMadrid sports section active today, though it has been thought to close it many times because is not autosufficiently and is alive due to the football team. This section was created in 1931 and did not stand out until the 50's, when the excelent and honesty executive Raimundo Saporta and the splendid coach Ferrandiz put on the foundations to create "the best basketball team of the world out of the NBA".
The section has been a few years without giving good results (today spanish basketball is not also the mediatic sport that was when Real Madrid was the King of Europe) but last year the club signed one of the best coachs of Europe (Bozidar Maljkovic) with whom we won the Spanish League (ACB). We trust in him to make a team with stars (now we have Bullock and Rakocevic) and young players with NBA future (Reyes, Sinanovic, Tomas, Gelabale, Hervelle) that allows us to compete again as the best European team.

--The team in the 30's
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--The team in 1947. A game in Frontón Fiesta Alegre, the place where Real Madrid played. In that years basketball was played in places without cover and with the football ball
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--1952
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--The first Euroleague
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--In 1965 Real Madrid won its second Euroleague. In the pic the great President don Santiago Bernabéu with the team over the "concrete" of Frontón Fiesta Alegre. The captain, Emiliano, seizes don Santiago.
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--Pic of 1970. Luyk with the ball and a Varese player, Varese was the maximum rival of that years. This day Real Madrid scored in its own hoop as a winning strategy, this provoked a change in the international regulation
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--Real Madrid win its 5th euroleague against Varese and turns into the best team in Europa (1974), an honor that nobody has managed to be equal till now
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--7th Euroleague (1980). Brabender with the cup, and Walter Szczerbiak (the father of Wally Szczerbiak, the NBA star of Minnesota Timberwolves).
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Our current player Igor Rakocevic played in Minnesota Timberwolves for one year, he did not manage to triumph but he found the protection of the Szczerbiak family, "Wally and his family treated me as one of them, I passed a lot of time with them and they helped me to adapt to the american way of life". The destiny wanted that Rakocevic signed for Real Madrid last summer, the team where the father of his great friend Wally played. In the pic, Walter with his son, Wally, admiring the Euroleague trophy. Wally as a NBA star
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--Sorry, I don't have any pic of the 80's: Corbalán, Delibasic the gentleman (+),...

--Drazen Petrovic, one of two best European players of the history. It was pure showtime (62 points in an european final) but overcoat a real winner; a winner player in the most winner club. He played in Madrid only one season, 88-89, and then he went away to the NBA ... without saying goodbye. It was a shock.
Some months later to leave Madrid, Petrovic said: "If I have to leave the NBA and come back to Europa, the team I would choose it would be Real Madrid; no doubt. It is the best european team and I had a great year there, we won two titles and due to the injuries we could not win the Spanish League, I love the city, the club and the fans.
I did not desert the Real Madrid fans, I am a professional and I always have to aim to the highest. I also left the Cibona to go to Madrid and my countrymen had to accept it. I have very good memories of the RealMadrid fans and I hope they think the same about me."
Of course, the best memory.
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--Arvydas Sabonis, the other best European player of the history. He always said that he would not play in the same team as Petrovic... at the same time. The president of Real Madrid that days, Ramon Mendoza, wanted to buy both players the same year, but Sabonis fulfilled his words (the relationship beetwen this great players was not very good). He stayed 3 seasons with us and he won our 8th and last Euroleague (1995). He went away from Madrid to the NBA with tears in his eyes. Sabas, we don't forget you!!!
http://img496.imageshack.us/img496/7656/111993sabonis3vh.jpg

At this moment Sabas is the president of Zalgiris, his former team. This team played last year against Real Madrid in Euroleague and in the pic you can see the "president" Sabas joking with "Boza" Maljkovic, our coach
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--Fernando Martín. Not surprisingly, a Real Madrid player was the pioneer; the first spanish player in NBA. Good player, the best competitor, the captain. Fernando playing the Open McDonalds final, 1988: Real Madrid-Boston Celtics
http://img496.imageshack.us/img496/5362/13fernando7jj.jpg

Nobody has taken the number 10 in Real Madrid since he died.
http://img496.imageshack.us/img496/9758/14pic02230jq.jpg

--Sorry, I don't have any pic of the latest 90's first 00's (bad days for Real Madrid basketball): Djordjevic the leader, Herreros,...

--The basketball team today (as the coach use to say: "a team of greats players, better as human beings")
http://www.realmadrid.com/baloncesto/plantilla/
http://www.acb.com/plantilla.php?cod_equipo=MAD&cod_competicion=LACB&cod_edicion=50
http://www.euroleague.net/teams/teamCard.jsp?id=MAD

Some of our current players:

>Gelabale: as Boza said, "when we manage to anger him, his face can touch the hoop"
http://img496.imageshack.us/img496/5181/15dsc6583encancha1ne.jpg http://img496.imageshack.us/img496/7203/16gelabaleshowtime23km1km6sp.gif

>"Sweet" Bullock: a human cannon
http://img496.imageshack.us/img496/9589/17is5p26774ov.jpg

>Sinanovic: 2'21meters
http://img496.imageshack.us/img496/7183/18a98e45288sinanovicpnov0qq.jpg

>Rako: the best player of the best national team of the world (Serbia and Montenegro)
http://img496.imageshack.us/img496/7456/19c7ebb5rakocevic288p2iv.jpg

>Tomas: 20 years
http://img496.imageshack.us/img496/5418/20a98e45288tomasp9cc.jpg

>Reyes: our fighter
http://img496.imageshack.us/img496/6884/21d72df5288reyesruedaprensap9p.jpg

>Hervelle: the belgian gladiator
http://img496.imageshack.us/img496/8185/221045875hervelleentrevistap2n.jpg


--ARENAS: Real Madrid played in the Frontón Fiesta Alegre its first games. Until there was inaugurated the basketball pavilion in the Old Training Center (1966) where Real Madrid obtained the major exploits. Some years later and with the boom of the spanish basketball in the first years of the 90's, the facility remains small and Real Madrid played in the Palacio de Deportes de la Comunidad de Madrid, sharing the Arena with another club of Madrid, Estudiantes
http://img496.imageshack.us/img496/9669/23palacio3re.jpg

But spanish basketball had a crisis and the big pavilions was almost impossible to fill, the club takes the decision to return to the Pavilion of the Old Training Center. It suffered a few improvements and it was inaugurated on February 16, 1999, with capacity for 5.200 persons. In this years the pavilion was called Raimundo Saporta
http://img496.imageshack.us/img496/2554/24pabellon5gj.jpg

The Old Training Center and the Saporta Pavilion were destroyed in 2003 to build the new financial center (post 23). Nowadays the team plays in the Palacio Vistalegre (post 53) waiting for the new Arena (post 50).


--TORNEO DE NAVIDAD: The Christmas Tournement (today is called Torneo Raimundo Saporta Memorial Fernando Martín) it is the most prestigious basketball friendly tournement and possibly the most ancient (1965). The best teams and european national teams competed in it. This year is not going to be celebrated, the club decided that it should be played in the summer (pre-season). Lately it was not the same thing than before and was not easy to bring maximum level teams to Madrid in the middle of the season. In the pic the Real Madrid, winner of the Torneo de Navidad, in the top of the podium
http://img496.imageshack.us/img496/1999/25sinttulo69do.jpg


--FOOTBALL-BASKETBALL: The friendly Christmas games between this two sections (and the lunch that they celebrate after it) are historical. They played a football game and a basketball game. Lately they has sttoped to do it though last year, due to the snowfalls, the football team had a train in the pavilion where they played a basketball game; the teams were reinforced with Gelabale and Hervelle. Guti is not bad but it is clear that Ronaldo, Salgado or Roberto Carlos have not born to play basketball. The lunch continues being celebrated; nowadays it happens in a restaurant of the stadium, Puerta 57. Then the players make a hospitals tour to take some gifts to the sick children:
http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/futbol_baloncesto_florentino_perez_comida_28169.htm
http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/real_madrid_jugadores_reparten_juguetes_28176.htm

The two sports sections playing football in the old training center. Luyk and Amancio. Luyk goalkeeper
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The two sports sections playing basketball next to the east front of Bernabéu Stadium (1969), where today is locate the mall "La Esquina del Bernabéu"
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I continue with the training centres

Ajax training centre - De Toekomst (a place of reference for the Academy work)

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Pics of the President in the Training Center of Valdebebas saying stupid things to the players :ohno: :

http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/florentino_perez_no_real_madrid_28394.htm

Real Madrid end United reign as the game's biggest earner


Real Madrid´s policy is finally paying dividends for Florentino Perez´s club. Nick Harris reports.

Real Madrid have ended Manchester United's eight-year reign as the biggest earners in world football on the back of a galactico policy that truly started paying dividends when David Beckham swapped Old Trafford for the Bernabeu two years.
Real's income to the year ending 30 June 2005 jumped 17 per cent to €275.7m (£190m), but the most eye-catching figure is that 42 per cent of their income now comes from commercial revenue, a lot of that thanks to a boom in post-Beckham marketing.
Real's revenue from club merchandise, such as shirts, jumped 67 per cent in Beckham's first season alone, and climbed another 6.5 per cent in the year to June. Overall commercial income, which includes money from deals with the likes of Siemens, adidas and Pepsi, which have all grown in value with the "Beckham effect", now stands at around £80m a year.
Real also earned £48m (26 per cent of turnover) from match-day income (primarily ticket sales), £44m (24 per cent) from television, and £16m (eight per cent) from promotional activities such as lucrative overseas tours and friendlies, which have also become better earners because of Beckham.
United's last full-year figures showed that in the year ending 30 June 2004, their turnover was £169m, and, crucially, not on course to top the £190m that Real have earned in a like-for-like period to June this year.
And whereas the key indicators in Real's figures point to steady growth and sensible economics, United's did not. Real's income is forecast to jump again next year, to around £204m.
United's half-year results to 31 January 2005 came with a warning that a £14m decline in media revenue will harm the full-year data. And that was before the Glazer family took on debts that will need refinancing, partially from earnings.

And whereas Real's annual wage bill (£98m) now equates to 52 per cent of turnover, and is falling towards an expected ratio of 47 per cent next year, United's wage bill last year (£76.9m) is forecast not only to rise in actual terms, but to creep from around 45 per cent of turnover to more than 50 per cent.
It is quite likely, perhaps conveniently so for United, that it will never be possible to make a direct year-for-year comparison between Real's figures and United's. This is because of the Glazer family's takeover. When they arrived at Old Trafford, saddling the club with some £300m of immediate debt and more to come, they also changed United's accounting year, from August to July, to July to June.
Which means that when United's figures do emerge (and the Glazers are not obliged to do more than register them at Companies House some time between now and the end of April), they will be for only 11 months.
What is certain is that United will not have matched Real's stunning growth in commercial income as a percentage of turnover. Against Real's 42 per cent this year, United's figure last year was 27 per cent. United made 36 per cent of their money from match-day income and 37 per cent from media, mostly television.
Real's upturn in fortunes can largely be explained by the galactico strategy of their president, Florentino Perez, who came to power in 2000, since when Real's merchandising and commercial revenues have more than trebled on the back of signing the likes of Luis Figo, Zinedine Zidane, Ronaldo - and especially Beckham. Real may have spent £340m on buying players in that time, and some £540m in wages, but the investment is paying dividends.
The sale of the club's city centre training ground (for £326m) funded the initial spree. A cheaper out-of-town facility replaced it.
The logic behind Perez's plan was examined thoroughly in White Angels: Beckham, Real Madrid and the New Football, John Carlin's book about the Perez-era Real, which was written with insider access and Perez's full co-operation. Carlin describes the galactico theory as "Perez's riddle", or in other words, how the most expensive players in the world were actually the cheapest. "The reason is that they generate the greatest profits," Perez told him. "The best players are the most profitable players in every sense."

And this has been most true in the case of Beckham, bought from United in 2003 in a deal that would only ever cost Real a maximum of £22m, even if Real had won every trophy available while he played for them.
"Peanuts! They're asking peanuts," is how Real's director of marketing, Jose Angel Sanchez, memorably informed Perez of the price United were seeking for Beckham. Figo had cost £37m, Zidane had cost £47m and Ronaldo £29m, and here was Beckham, already an icon in lucrative Far East markets that Real wanted to exploit, being given away for a maximum of £22m.
Before the deal was done, Perez asked Sanchez: "So how much is Beckham worth to you?" Sanchez estimated the England captain could be worth €500m (£340m) of business. It was a no-brainer.
According to one source in Madrid yesterday: "Even now, there are still people walking around the club shaking their heads in disbelief that Beckham arrived for so little."
If one irony of the situation is not enough - Real leap-frogging United in the cash stakes on the back of a player United no longer wanted - then Perez added a second as he confirmed a continuing upturn in Real's fortunes with the release of positive yearly results on Sunday night.
"We want Real Madrid to remain a club that belongs to everyone," he said. "Real Madrid is not obsessed with economic results alone, but our economic stability will guarantee our freedom in the future".

In other words, while other clubs, either plc-owned or run as personal fiefdoms by profit-hungry businessmen, are motivated by the bottom line for themselves, Real, looking to remain truly independent, are actually outdoing them. And unlike United, under the Glazers, Real have no debt.
And they still have Beckham.
REAL MADRID
Annual income*: £190m
Biggest earner: Commercial income from merchandise and sponsorship, worth almost £80m a year (42 per cent of income). When Florentino Perez became president of the club in 2000, this figure was lower than 10 per cent of income.
Other major revenue streams: Match-day income (mainly tickets) of £48m (26 per cent of income); television income of £44m (24 per cent); and friendlies, tours and other promotions earning £16m (eight per cent).
Wages: £98m, currently 52 per cent of income, which is forecast to fall to 47 per cent of turnover next year.
MANCHESTER UTD
Annual income**: £169m
Biggest earner: Television income, which was by far the largest chunk of overall media income of £62.5m in the year (37 per cent of income). TV income forecast to fall £14m in the current year.
Other major revenue streams: Match-day income of £61.2m (36 per cent); commercial income of £45.3m (27 per cent).
Wages: £76.9m in the last full-year figures, equating to 45 per cent of income, which is expected to rise above 50 per cent in the next figures.
* denotes year to 30 June, 2005; ** denotes year to 31 July, 2004, but little or no growth expected in year to June 2005.

Milanello, Milan training centre
http://www.acmilan.com/InfoPage.aspx?id=460
Completely restructured and renovated upon Silvio Berlusconi’s wish, Milanello is nowadays one of the most prestigious and innovative European sport centres. Located on a hill at 300-m height, at a distance of only 50 kilometres from Milan and close to Varese, Milanello can be easily reached through the highway directed to the Lakes.
The centre, built in 1963, is placed in a green oasis of 160 thousand square metres, also comprising a pinewood and a little lake and it is located between the towns of Carnago, Cassano Magnago and Cairate. The hypothetical boundary line between these towns passes through the middle of Milanello dressing rooms.
Milanello currently represents an important asset not only for the Milan Club, but for the whole Italian football system. This was indeed the objective pursued by Andrea Rizzoli who decided to build it. The continuity has then been ensured by Silvio Berlusconi with his firm willingness to provide to coaches, trainers and players a comprehensive centre designed to satisfy their needs. The ever most advanced facilities of Milanello have often been used also by the Italian Football Association (Federazione Italiana Giuoco Calcio) for the preparation of the National Team’s important competitions, such as the European Championships in 1988, 1996 and 2000.
At Milanello there are six regular pitches, 1 in synthetic grass (35 m x 30), 1 covered pitch with synthetic ground (42 m x 24) and a small-sized outdoor pitch in grass named "cage" because the playing field is surrounded by a 2,30 m high wall and topped by 2,5 m high fencing. Inside the cage, the play never stops, with the ball always in motion in order to enhance the speed of execution. A path running through the woods ca. 1,200 m long at various altitudes is used during the season for the players’ physical training (running and biking) and for the recovery of injured players. The main building of the centre is a two-floor building (plus the basement) hosting the offices, the players’ rooms, the chimney room, a TV-room, a pool-room; a bar, a kitchen, two dining-rooms, the press room, the meeting room, the laundry, the ironing-room and the medical centre. Next to the main building the "guest-quarters" are located, where also a few players from the Youth Department live. These youngsters, coming from various parts of Italy and from abroad too, go to school as all other teen-agers and in the afternoons attend their training sessions on the field made available to them.
A separate building apart from the main body hosts two dressing-rooms (one for the first team, the other for the youth) and a very modern gym endowed with the most advanced Technogym equipment, one of Milan’s prides. .
The gym is indeed the area most frequently renovated: in the 2000-2001 season, the indoor training space has been doubled. A highly technologically advanced gym that offers the possibility to work out and evaluate the training schedule of each single player. It is an innovative centre where the players and the staff can use the most recent and sophisticated equipment available worldwide. The renovated Milanello gym equipment comprise machines for training the strength of all muscles and cardiovascular exercises, machines for joints rehabilitation and for evaluation (REV 9000), Technogym Systems (TGS), the "keys" for the setting of individual training programs and rehabilitation protocols.
Milanello is presently considered by all international operators as the Number One Sport Centre in the world. The Italian national team often designates it as location for its retreats in view of important commitments, such as the World Cup or the European Championships.
The most advanced technical-accommodation facilities and services offer the ideal conditions for the best management of sport activity at top quality levels. The last changes implemented at the centre concern the communication sector: recently 3000-m cabling has indeed been executed in order to place in strategic points the cameras of Milan Channel - the Club’s thematic channel - for the coverage of everything going on at the Sport Centre for Milan’s fans.

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This is the extension of Camp Nou. De model is made in de early 90's. I hope that FC Barcelona built this construction.
http://community.webshots.com/photo/546590432/2169632350084723840gMFgJR

stadiumfuture, did you see that? I have just found it. :eek:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=7082994&postcount=1

eli:
Thank you for the picture, its likes an golfcourse. Barca the greencity.

Pics of "La Ciudad del Real Madrid" in the snow. The "white" complex of the White Club:
http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/valdebebas_viste_blanco_28954.htm

Cool.

LIVE REALMADRIDTV

+If you want to watch Realmadrid Television (spanish version) in your computer by streaming:

mms://stream1.terra.es/farm/*/rmadrid.wmv

o

http://s59.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=18SRDJ61VVGP20VXX7MM8DW6PP



+If you live in America, Europe or Asia, you can watch the spanish or the english version in your TV. You only have to orientate your satellite dish towards the satellites Astra or Hispasat:


In Europe:
-Satellite Hispasat 30º W
RMTV, frequency 12.092-H MHz. (SR 27500, FEC 3/4)

-Satellite Astra1E 19,2º E
RMTV, frequency 11.509-V MHz. (SR 22000, FEC 5/6)

-Satellite Eutelsat Hot Bird 13º E (english version)
RMTV, frequency 11.785-H MHz. (SR 27500, FEC 3/4)


http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/1018.htm

http://gestiona.madrid.org/nomecalles/index.jsp?idioma=en
"NOMECALLES is a Geographical Information System prepared by the Region of Madrid´s Institute of Statistics. It aims to provide data of use to experts and non-experts alike. General interest items such as geographic boundaries, streetfinders and aerial photographs are featured in addition to the exact location of points of specific interest."

1956 ("Vuelo Americano")
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2004
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MEDIA PROJECTS

"With its brand and following, Real Madrid TV has great potential beyond Spain," says Richard Brook, corporate development director at European sports broadcasting company Setanta. "Films and soccer TV lifestyle/entertainment programming are less established business models."

RMTV started life in February 1999 as a paid-for option on basic cable in Spain, show business newspaper, Variety, reported. By late last year it had just 65,000 subs -- something had to change.

It relaunched in February 2005 as a free channel on basic cable and has inked with Hispasat, Astra, Eutelsat, PanAmSat, AsiaSat and Intelsat Americas to transmit round-the-clock Spanish- and English-language versions. The English-version will broadcast worldwide, barring Africa.

It has a slew of projects on the go aiming at transforming RMTV "from a local niche pay TV service into an international, sports, entertainment and lifestyle service," according to director Michael Novack. "CNN International meets ESPN meets MTV" is how Novack described the network.

It has teamed with Interactive Sports Television to develop and broadcast interactive TV program "Realmadrid Life" for local-language editions in Asia and French satellite broadcaster TPS has signed to carry RMTV and as well as weekly programming blocks on TPS Foot soccer channel.

Novack says it's also prepping a raft of half-hour TV series: a weekly health magazine; players' biodocs (The Road); one-on-one interviews (Real Insight); and insights into players' private passions (Inside Out). There's a muppet-style series, manga toontoon skeinskein and a drama on Madrid fans in the works.

As if all that's not enough, the club's first feature, Real, the Movie (http://www.reallapelicula.com/ ), premiered on 26 August in Spain. It's also co-producing docupic Football: the Birth of a Passion (http://www.elnacimientodeunapasion.com/ ) and cooperating on Goal! 2 (http://www.goalthemovie.com ) and a film portrait of player Zinedine Zidane by producer Joni Sighvatsson for Universal France.

The official lunch with the guest executives it is in the habit of being done in the Ritz. But this time it was celebrated in the new training center due to the interest of Arsenal to see Valdebebas.
http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/valdebebas_arsenal_real_madrid_29500.htm

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What horrible support, our 6,000 fans upstaged your whole stadium of "supporters". "Galacticos" what a joke!

What horrible support, our 6,000 fans upstaged your whole stadium of "supporters". "Galacticos" what a joke!
zaqattaq, unfortunately it is not a surprise :dunno: . Congratulations.




+The basketball ex-coach of Real Madrid Pedro Ferrándiz has been nominated to accede to the Basketball Hall of Fame, Springfield. Other finalists are Charles Barkley and Dominique Wilkins. I hope that he is choosen, he deserves it. http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/pedro_ferrandiz_hall_fame_29499.htm

If you want to talk about spanish basketball, you can do it here: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=325139




+The new stadium in the training center, the reserves ministadium, it is almost finished. It will be inaugurated in a few months and will be called Alfredo Di Stéfano Stadium. Initially it will have capacity for 6.000 people though it will be extended until 27.000

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http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/estadio_alfredo_di_stefano_ciudad_29527.htm
http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/di_stefano_que_estadio_29530.htm

Real president, Florentino Pérez, resigned on Monday after six years at the helm of Real Madrid.
Fernando Martín is the new president.
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Martín has been part of the board since Perez took power in 2000.

Martín's appearance at the Real Madrid University was his first official event as Real Madrid president. The school of health, leisure, management, communication and sport is the part of the larger European University of Madrid. Jorge Valdano is going to direct this project. It is the first time that a university and a sports club had collaborated to create a higher education institution and its students will have access to Real Madrid facilities:
http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/rma29683.htm
http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/accede_fernando_martin_real_madrid_29695.htm
http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/fernando_martin_florentino_perez_29699.htm

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Fernando Martin greeting the workers of la Ciudad del Real Madrid:
http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/fernando_martin_ciudad_real_madrid_29727.htm

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Bernabéu and la Ciudad del Real Madrid are are the unique facilities of the world totally managed from a small position of control in the stadium (UCI).
http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/rma29409.htm

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Madrid Die Sportstadt (http://www.lamela.com/DEPOT/arch_publicaciones/040715%20sb%20Ciudad%20Deportiva%20low.pdf)

This publication, SB Sportstättenbau und Bäderanlagen 4/2004 (July 2004), talk about la Ciudad del Real Madrid.

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May 9 the future ministadium of the reserves team will be inaugurated. It is located in la Ciudad del Real Madrid and its name will be Alfredo di Stefano Stadium. There will celebrate the game Real Madrid vs Stade de Reims, historical team that faced to Real Madrid in the first final of European Cup, 1956 (the Champion's League).
http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/con_madrid-stade_reims_30424.htm

Gardening

http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/valdebebas_florece_30719.htm

http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/susana_canogar_paisajista_30717.htm

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The new ministadium is ready:
http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/alfredo_di_stefano_30857.htm

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Castilla (Real Madrid reserves) has released the new stadium in which they will play:
http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/sesion_alfredo_di_stefano_30882.htm

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Any news yet? They had (I saw excedently on an old thread) big plans.
But that was a long time ago. does anyone have news?

sorry, I have just found the old thread on it is not as dead as I thougt it was... See you guys on the other thread! :bash:

Does anybody have any pics, details or news on some of the developments that are supposed to be happening in Spain? Below is a list of what I think is either happening or in the pipeline:

New Espanyol Stadium
New Atletico Madrid Stadium
New Bilbao Stadium
New Deportivo La Coruna Stadium
Renovated Real Sociedad Stadium
Completion of bowl at Real Betis Stadium
Roof for the Bernabau

Also I know there are plans for new stadium for Valencia but obviously there is a current thread for that.

and the renovation of camp nou also , but for bilbao and atletico , there is no project yet ( definite )

BERNABÉU


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Closing the Stadium will cost 30.000.000 Euros.
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It is a project of Lamela Architects. It was an electoral promise of the ex-president, we do not know if the next Real Madrid president will agree with it.

and the renovation of camp nou also , but for bilbao and atletico , there is no project yet ( definite )
There are no plans for Camp Nou.

New Espanyol Stadium - In construction
New Atletico de Madrid Stadium - Just intentions
New Athletic de Bilbao Stadium - Just intentions
New Deportivo de la Coruña Stadium - Don't know how it's going on, but it was just a renovation of the stadium.
Renovated Real Sociedad Stadium - I don't know nothing about it.
Completion of the new Betis Stadium - Stand by
Roof of Real Madrid Stadium - Just intentions
New Zaragoza Stadium - Paralyzed 'till new order on the same day the works began.
New Valencia Stadium - The club will choose the 75,000 seats final project in a few weeks.

Definately seen plans for sociedad, think I saw them on worldstadiums.com, i think they involve replacing the area where the running track is with seating.

I'm sorry but from the interior of the Bernabeau the roof is gonna look stupid.

why couldn't they demolish the stand they recently put a roof on and just rebuild it to look like the other three, it'd look so much better if they did

Why do they need to change the Bernabeau? its incredible as it is! and why do they need a stupid roof? it hardly rains in Madrid?

Dang, 80,000 people under a roof, its gonna get really loud in there.

I would love to post something (the zaragoza stadium for instance) but I can't post attachements!!! How do I solve this? :bash:

hopefully bernadeu will be a 5 star stadium..

Is sanchez pijuan the stadium of betis or of fc seville?

hopefully bernadeu will be a 5 star stadium..

Is sanchez pijuan the stadium of betis or of fc seville?

It's the stadium of Sevilla FC. Betis' stadium is called Ruiz De Lopera.

I really like Bernabeu. For me its in the top three in the world.

Simply looks amazing, the sheer height and steepness of the stands, the coherent look, the sea of blue seats. It's just beautiful. One of the best stadiums we have on this Earth, in my book.

News and/or renderings, pics etc. about the development of other Spanish grounds would be much appreciated yes :) What ever happened to Real Sociedad's plans? I remember a proposal for them looking quite simply awesome.

RCD Espanyol..

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^^Really nice

I'm sorry but from the interior of the Bernabeau the roof is gonna look stupid.

why couldn't they demolish the stand they recently put a roof on and just rebuild it to look like the other three, it'd look so much better if they did

Why do they need to change the Bernabeau? its incredible as it is! and why do they need a stupid roof? it hardly rains in Madrid?

Dang, 80,000 people under a roof, its gonna get really loud in there.

85.000 people ;)

I think that the different form of the new stand is related to the construction of the future cover (that it is going to be mobile/movable). Probably for ventilation or in order that could open and close the cover easily.

Madrid is not a rainy city but it is a good thing that all the crowd is protected of the rain. For me is not important because I watch the games on TV but it is great for the people who go to the stadium. There are things that only there can value the people that goes to Bernabéu. This year the stadium has mechanical stairs in the whole facility, maybe you think that it is an unnecessary luxury but the children and the old people are grateful.
The new cover is not only going to protect of the rain and snow, also it helps the heating works better, it improves acoustics and it makes that the furniture of the stadium does not degenerate (degradation) fastly.

I think that is a very good idea.

Sorry about my english, I hope you understand me.

There are no plans for Camp Nou.

New Espanyol Stadium - In construction
New Atletico de Madrid Stadium - Just intentions
New Athletic de Bilbao Stadium - Just intentions
New Deportivo de la Coruña Stadium - Don't know how it's going on, but it was just a renovation of the stadium.
Renovated Real Sociedad Stadium - I don't know nothing about it.
Completion of the new Betis Stadium - Stand by
Roof of Real Madrid Stadium - Just intentions
New Zaragoza Stadium - Paralyzed 'till new order on the same day the works began.
New Valencia Stadium - The club will choose the 75,000 seats final project in a few weeks.



there are no plans yet but it has been mentioned several times ( bofill work )in articles and this site , the stadium is aging so they should do something important in the ( near ) future .

The Real Madrid Basketball History (new)
http://www.realmadrid.com/especiales/75anosdebaloncesto/portada_esp.htm

whats espanyols capacity going to be?

85.000 people ;)

I think that the different form of the new stand is related to the construction of the future cover (that it is going to be mobile/movable). Probably for ventilation or in order that could open and close the cover easily.

Madrid is not a rainy city but it is a good thing that all the crowd is protected of the rain. For me is not important because I watch the games on TV but it is great for the people who go to the stadium. There are things that only there can value the people that goes to Bernabéu. This year the stadium has mechanical stairs in the whole facility, maybe you think that it is an unnecessary luxury but the children and the old people are grateful.
The new cover is not only going to protect of the rain and snow, also it helps the heating works better, it improves acoustics and it makes that the furniture of the stadium does not degenerate (degradation) fastly.

I think that is a very good idea.

Sorry about my english, I hope you understand me.

The Bernabeu has a 80354 capacity.

there are no plans yet but it has been mentioned several times ( bofill work )in articles and this site , the stadium is aging so they should do something important in the ( near ) future .
But that Bofill projects were for the spot where Mini Estadio is, (Mini Estadio is the "next door stadium", it's a Barça property too) not for Camp Nou.

the basic project idea is to sell mini-estadi area to finance a new palau blaugrana and increase capacity / renovation for the camp nou ( it's in every article related to this and bofill stated that the work was useful because the stadium is an old construction ) , i think 120 m euros is too low for both though , but obviously the club can't make urban projects without thinking of their main building property which is camp nou .

The Bernabeu has a 80354 capacity.
...and 4.000 in the VIP zones+650 in the press zone.


Also there are 1.500 club workers (waiters, the people of the ticket offices,...) and 1.500 security people (stewarts, private security, national and municipal policemen,...); but these people don't watch the game ;).

Sorry Diego, the capacity is 78657 seats and 1697 VIP seats, for a total capacity of 80354.

http://stats.football365.com/dom/ESP/teams/RlMadrid.html

Sorry Diego, the capacity is 78657 seats and 1697 VIP seats, for a total capacity of 80354.

http://stats.football365.com/dom/ESP/teams/RlMadrid.html
Your numbers are not updated. You have described the situation before the last extension in 2004.

http://img307.imageshack.us/img307/3016/14deseptiembre20037uj.jpg

Bernabéu has 80.200 normal seats + royal box, vip boxes, vip ante-boxes (4.000)+ panoramic restaurant Puerta 57 (200)+ panoramic restaurant Real Cafe (closed during the game)+ 650 press, radio and tv seats.

No it doesn't!! Real Madrid will never have a crowd of 84000, as the stadium holds 80354. 75000 was the old capacity.

http://stats.football365.com/dom/ESP/teams/RlMadrid.html
http://stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/index.php?template=stadionlisten&land=Spanien
http://www.fussballtempel.net/uefa/ESP.html
http://www.stadiumguide.com/realmadridstory.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santiago_Bernab%C3%A9u_Stadium

We will never agree. I give you information that I read in the official web (I read it daily) and you put a wikipedia link :ohno:

Give me the link then.


and why do Madrid never get any 84000 crowds?? Their top crowds are always just over 80000.

whats espanyols capacity going to be?


41.000

Give me the link then.


and why do Madrid never get any 84000 crowds?? Their top crowds are always just over 80000.
As you can see, the first article of this page explain it (el Santiago Bernabéu en datos) but it doesn't work.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=numeros+bernabeu+camareros+realmadrid.com
The design of the official web had change some months ago and the archive doesn't work since that day.
So I you cannot demonstrate it; I remember this information because I love to read about the facilities of Real Madrid (the new training center and the stadium).

Nobody count the vip seats because the people who go there are not members. This seats are used for invitations (politicians, actors, the injured players, the Real Madrid Basketball team, rival executives,...) or to rent to companies.

Inauguration of the Alfredo Di Stefano new ministadium:
http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/don_alfredo_inaugura_estadio_31095.htm

http://www.realmadrid.com/addon/img/7add26planogeneral288p.jpg

Bollocks, and how handy that it is no longer there. Of course VIP seats are included in attendances, and Real Madrids top attendance has been 80354, which by bizarre coincidence is also their capacity.

Not one single website has their capacity as 84000.

The old capacity was 75000, there is no way in hell that small expansion was 10000 seats.

Bollocks, and how handy that it is no longer there. Of course VIP seats are included in attendances, and Real Madrids top attendance has been 80354, which by bizarre coincidence is also their capacity.

Not one single website has their capacity as 84000.

The old capacity was 75000, there is no way in hell that small expansion was 10000 seats.
Not even now, either two years ago, and 7 years ago when Real Madrid began to built the vip zones, nobody count the people who goes to the vip zones. Nobody count any person who go to the restaurant, or the friends or clients you invite your rented vip box,... is impossible.
They have their own exclusive doors to the stadium.
It's ok if you do not believe me, I am not going to continue discussing.

The first game in Alfredo Di Stefano Stadium (ministadium):

The executives of Real Madrid and Stade de Reims have a lunch in Valdebebas (La Ciudad del Real Madrid). (http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/comida_directivas_31111.htm)

The stadium is prepared for the game. (http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/listo_preparado_31117.htm)

Inside the stadium. (http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/entranas_nuevo_estadio_31116.htm)

Real Madrid Veterans - National Team Veterans (http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/amavisca_estadio_estrena_31119.htm)

Veterans (http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/veteranos_31125.htm)

The crowd (http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/habla_madridismo_31122.htm)

Don Alfredo is grateful (http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/gracias_alfredo_31120.htm)

The game Real Madrid - Stade de Reims (http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/6-1_va_alfredo_31123.htm)

http://www.realmadrid.com/addon/img/8a1f66288prolegomenos7p.jpg

^^ how funny that in the header of that website only David Beckham's face is shown

^^ how funny that in the header of that website only David Beckham's face is shown
Not only...

http://www.realmadrid.com/img_esp/foto_3.jpg

http://www.realmadrid.com/img_esp/foto_7.jpg

... but it is true that too many times.
It's Becks! :dunno:

Real Murcia wil get a big fat new stadium to. Planns where to make it suitable for UEFA cup finals, so I guess about 40.000. I cannot open the files on the site of Real murcia. Maybe you guys can... www.realmurcia.es and then at installaciones, nuevo condomina. Good luck. hope to see the photos later in this forum. I like the Spanish stadia (I live here for 4 years now) there real arenas!

Does anyone know if Real Betis have plans to complete the bowl? this would make it into a mini Nou Camp.

Not even now, either two years ago, and 7 years ago when Real Madrid began to built the vip zones, nobody count the people who goes to the vip zones. Nobody count any person who go to the restaurant, or the friends or clients you invite your rented vip box,... is impossible.
They have their own exclusive doors to the stadium.
It's ok if you do not believe me, I am not going to continue discussing.

eli - 80,354! that's it, final, it's not 84,000, and it never will be

http://www.fussballtempel.net/uefa/ESP.html

VIP counted as well

Come on new Riazor....

Is Valencia gonna extend or get a new stadium? they doing pretty well in Laliga. the Maestella is a magnifiscent stadium, but do they have any intentions of renovating or building a new stadia?

Is Valencia gonna extend or get a new stadium? they doing pretty well in Laliga. the Maestella is a magnifiscent stadium, but do they have any intentions of renovating or building a new stadia?


There is another thread about this stadium on this forum with some realy cool pics. I do not now if Valencia has already made there mind up about which one it will be.

Is Valencia gonna extend or get a new stadium? they doing pretty well in Laliga. the Maestella is a magnifiscent stadium, but do they have any intentions of renovating or building a new stadia?
You've got here a thread about the new Valencia stadium

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=288914

Real Murcia wil get a big fat new stadium to. Planns where to make it suitable for UEFA cup finals, so I guess about 40.000. I cannot open the files on the site of Real murcia. Maybe you guys can... www.realmurcia.es and then at installaciones, nuevo condomina. Good luck. hope to see the photos later in this forum. I like the Spanish stadia (I live here for 4 years now) there real arenas!

The Nueva Condomina official capacity it's 33.045 and it's one of the candidates to host the 2008 UEFA Cup final

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f53/rade_/d19d0d32.jpg

The stadium will be inaugurated in August. This are some pictures from yesterday. They are from Murcianico (mate of spanish forum), you can se more pictures in this thread http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=347974

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/8762/nuevacondomina1005061398bm.jpg

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/5994/nuevacondomina100506031b9mf.jpg

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/8681/nuevacondomina1005060655ui.jpg

the capacity of bernabeu is 80.354
I have got the stadionwelt magazine and they visit bernabeu and speak with the stadium chief (?)

Thanks Rade!
you do not know where to get more 'pictures of the planns? I just drove by Murcia (on my way to the goddamn IKEA, girls...) and I saw the situation. Will it be the stadium for only Real Murcia or also Cuidad Murcia? With the stadium which allready excests I thought both teams played in the same stadium or not?

A falconers' company takes care of Santiago Bernabéu

http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/bernabeu_guardianes_31437.htm

http://www.realmadrid.com/addon/img/17e4366288halcon1p.jpg

just to get on top again!

Does anyone know if Real Betis have plans to complete the bowl? this would make it into a mini Nou Camp.

I think Betis has alot of planns, (I have seen pictures of what I thought would be a whole new stadium) but if they are going to put them in effect?
Well they'll have to do something now their biggest rivals have won the uefa cup. Maybe now there will be action suddenley
They have got a very, very big 'olympic' stadium in Sevilla, from what I would guess is rotting away at this moment, maybe they (sevilla and Betis) could transform this in a San Siro type of thing (Inter and Milan are rivals to, I can say I think) and adjust the runningtrack a la Sant Denis?
Because i heard somewhere that Sevilla might want a new stadium too

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okay here we go, I think I know how to put the pictures in now
The new Zaragoza Stadium

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eh...

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http://i2.tinypic.com/1199y02.jpg

http://i2.tinypic.com/1199ybl.jpg

Getting the hang of it guys! Funny stadium no? To be hounest i do not realy know what to think about it. It is different def. I think i like it!

its a bizarre stadium,it looks like a toilett

That's a way of saying it. but well damn you're right! nice toilet though

http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/tour_bernabeu_nocturno_31540.htm

Besides the stadium tour that it is possible to do during the whole year, this summer is possible to visit the Santiago Bernabéu stadium in the night. From 21:00 till 1:00 it is possible to make the night stadium tour while it is enjoyed a Flamenco Spectacle or have a dinner in its restaurants.

http://www.realmadrid.com/addon/img/6bc1f6tour11p.jpg

http://www.realcafebernabeu.es/ (http://)

One of these four men will be the next president of Real Madrid on July 2: :no:

http://www.realmadrid.com/addon/img/7b0436288baldasanookp.jpg
http://www.baldasano.com/

http://www.realmadrid.com/addon/img/6bc1f6288villarmirfotooficialp.jpg
http://www.villarmir-carlossainz.com/

http://www.realmadrid.com/addon/img/6bc1f6palaciosoficialp.jpg
http://www.palacios2006.com/

http://www.realmadrid.com/addon/img/6bc1f6288calderonfotooficialp.jpg
http://www.ramoncalderon.com/


The members will decide...

where there planns for a real new main stadium for real madrid or is that nonsens?

where there planns for a real new main stadium for real madrid or is that nonsens?



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April 18th, 2005
El futuro campo madridista, bajo la mirada del arquitecto
El estudio de Lamela se ha especializado en diseñar campos de fútbol. Además de proyectar la nueva Ciudad Deportiva del Real Madrid también trabaja en diseñar el «techo» que cubrirá el actual Bernabéu. Entre los proyectos del arquitecto para la nueva Ciudad Deportiva blanca se han «colado» varios bocetos sobre el futurible estadio Bernabéu en Valdebebas. En ellos puede apreciarse cómo las dos tribunas que ha diseñado para el miniestadio permanecerían intactas para convertirse en la base del gran recinto. El campo para el equipo filial no dispondrá de fondos, pero en el caso de que la entidad decidiera convertirlo en el futuro Bernabéu dicha zona se rodearía de una nueva tribuna, como en el caso de La Peineta. El proyecto tiene forma de platillo volante, aunque la parte superior estaría suspendida sobre una base, al igual que ocurre con las Torres de Colón, obra también de Lamela. Respecto al interior del recinto, como puede apreciarse en la imagen superior, el estadio blanco contaría con unas gradas en forma circular que recordarían a las del estadio Maracaná de Brasil. La visión del arquitecto sobre el interior del futuro Bernabéu es completamente futurista, que recuerda más a una cancha de baloncesto de la NBA que a un estadio de fútbol, muy en sintonía con la visión que tiene Florentino Pérez para el Real Madrid del siglo XXI. El estudio de arquitectura de Antonio Lamela se ha convertido en un experto en diseñar estadios de fútbol. Además de participar en la ampliación del Santiago Bernabéu, así como en su futura cubierta, también ha proyectado el campo de fútbol de Son Moix, donde juega el Real Mallorca. En la actualidad también se encuentra en plena elaboración del proyecto del nuevo estadio de La Romareda, en Zaragoza, y negocia con otro equipo de Primera división la posibilidad de diseñar su nuevo campo.
April 18th, 2005
MADRID. El arquitecto Antonio Lamela ha concluido el proyecto de una de las joyas de la futura Ciudad Deportiva del Real Madrid en Valdebebas. Se trata del miniestadio que acogerá los encuentros del equipo filial, así como del resto de categorías inferiores del club. El diseño futurista, que cuenta con dos tribunas cubiertas con sendas carpas metálicas que las protegen del sol, pretende ser presentado por el Real Madrid a finales de la actual temporada futbolística. El recinto dispone de una capacidad para 20.000 personas. Sin embargo, el prestigioso arquitecto se ha guardado un «as» en la manga por si los responsables del club decidieran ampliar el aforo del estadio en un futuro.

Y es que el proyecto que ha realizado Lamela para la entidad madridista está concebido para multiplicar por cinco su capacidad y alcanzar así las 100.000 personas. La entidad blanca ha querido dejar así una puerta abierta al futuro traslado del Santiago Bernabéu a Valdebebas. Aunque a corto plazo nadie se plantea la «mudanza» -el club se centra ahora en cubrir el actual estadio-, fuentes de la entidad han manifestado a ABC que Florentino Pérez no lo descartaría «para más adelante».

El máximo mandatario del club se llegó a plantear en sus primeros años de mandato llevar a Valdebebas el estadio blanco. Pero un informe económico le obligó a descartar la idea, dado el alto coste que iba a suponer para las arcas de la entidad. Sin embargo, el Real Madrid sólo ha urbanizado un tercio de los terrenos que tiene en este desarrollo del Este de la capital. No es de extrañar, como apuntan desde dentro de la entidad merengue, que los otros dos tercios puedan utilizarse en un futuro para levantar uno de los más modernos estadios del mundo. El proyecto de Lamela supondría el primer paso para este futurible traslado. La estructura y la base del miniestadio, en este caso, están diseñadas para convertirse en los pilares del nuevo Bernabéu.

Las dos fases del estudio

Hasta el momento, el proyecto de la nueva Ciudad Deportiva está dividido en dos fases. La primera, que el club quiere inaugurar en junio, dispone de una zona con campos de fútbol para el primer equipo, otro espacio central de usos comunes con el centro de alto rendimiento, zona de visitantes y prensa, y los edificios y campos destinados a las categorías inferiores donde se incluyen los vestuarios, salas polivalentes y despachos de los técnicos.

Lamela ha diseñado para la ocasión edificaciones muy sencillas, de configuración ortogonal y poca anchura, que facilitan la ventilación e iluminación natural, además de potenciar las vistas sobre el conjunto. «Son los edificios los que se someten al solar, y no al contrario, buscando los menores desplazamientos y la máxima integración con lo existente», apunta el arquitecto en un estudio.

El miniestadio blanco formaría parte de la segunda fase del proyecto. En él se incluye, además, un palacio de deportes (Arena), la residencia de los jugadores y un área de convivencia, un edificio de oficinas para los trabajadores de la entidad, un plató para el canal de televisión del Real Madrid y, finalmente, el anhelado museo del club «más laureado del siglo XX».

Un proyecto con historia

El proyecto de la nueva Ciudad Deportiva parte en 2000 con la campaña electoral de Florentino Pérez a la presidencia. El mandatario blanco concebía el complejo como una «casa común donde los aficionados pudieran concurrir diariamente». Lamela supo recoger el guante lanzado por el presidente madridista y proyectó un complejo que albergara actividades deportivas, de ocio y cultura, en donde no sólo se practicara el fútbol.

Pero en el año 2002, ambas partes decidieron dar una nueva vuelta de tuerca al proyecto, para fijar aún más el concepto de una Ciudad Deportiva contemporánea y futura «para el club de fútbol más importante de la historia». Por ello se realizó un estudio pormenorizado de las más recientes instalaciones deportivas a nivel mundial, así como de los principales centros de entrenamiento de otros históricos equipos de fútbol.

Al final, ambas partes concluyeron levantar «un lugar de referencia para el deporte mundial, donde se cedía espacio para su práctica, a la vez que se convertía en un soporte para la experimentación de todo lo último que gira en torno al deporte, nuevos materiales en instalaciones, vestimenta, información y divulgación, medicina etc...». Todo ello giraría sobre lo que se concibe como la «casa del club», donde se darán cita los acontecimientos referentes al Real Madrid, así como la práctica deportiva, investigación, promoción y celebraciones
Maybe in... fifty years? ;)

Works in New Espanyol Stadium

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Works in New Espanyol Stadium

Wow! Is it going to be build finally?

U know it looks nice but from the side, with that office tower behind it, it does look like a toilet :rofl:

Toilet?!!!!!!!!! I'd like to have a shit there, I love shitting in fancy toilets!
and like I said, this is one nice toilet!

Now that Espanyol are building a new stadium what are they gonna do with the olympic stadium?

Now that Espanyol are building a new stadium what are they gonna do with the olympic stadium?


Nothing, the Olympic stadium is not a property of the Espanyol FC.


A new little stadium in Palencia...Palencia CF plays in the second division B,

Renders

http://www.retena.es/personales/chroma.retena/imagenes/palenciafc3.JPG

http://www.retena.es/personales/chroma.retena/imagenes/palenciafc5.JPG

http://www.fmangado.com/images/obra/Detalle/Det_432.jpg

Works..
Bueno aqui pongo unas fotos sacadas el 30 de mayo:
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a242/nazgules/campo%20nuevo/P5310041.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a242/nazgules/campo%20nuevo/P5310040.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a242/nazgules/campo%20nuevo/P5310053.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a242/nazgules/campo%20nuevo/P5310052.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a242/nazgules/campo%20nuevo/P5310050.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a242/nazgules/campo%20nuevo/P5310049.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a242/nazgules/campo%20nuevo/P5310048.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a242/nazgules/campo%20nuevo/P5310047.jpg

New Valencia Stadium:

http://213.162.200.230/images/multimedia/catalogos/060616-ESTADIO01.jpg

http://213.162.200.230/images/multimedia/catalogos/060616-ESTADIO02.jpg

http://213.162.200.230/images/multimedia/catalogos/060616-ESTADIO03.jpg

http://213.162.200.230/images/multimedia/catalogos/060616-ESTADIO07.jpg

http://213.162.200.230/images/multimedia/catalogos/060616-ESTADIO08.jpg

Finally it won't have that mall around the stadium so it isn't the final design.

http://img324.imageshack.us/img324/7255/19394zg.png

Forty years ago (July 1, 1966) Real Madrid won Wimbledon.
Manolo Santana was joined to the tennis sports section of Real Madrid when he get this title with his wood racket and a white Slazenger polo shirt with the Real Madrid emblem. White because of Wimbledon, white because of Real Madrid.
When Manolo took the trophy, he tried to kiss the hand of the Duchess of Kent, but she was pulling the hand. Manolo knew later than this gesture does not respect the protocol of the Crown of England. In Spain it is very normal. Even it is an spontaneous and funny gesture that a sportsman, because of the nerves, breaks the protocol and he kisses in the face and abrace the Queen; and she enjoy with it.

http://img496.imageshack.us/img496/7624/sinttulo92bq.jpg

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/518/recorte2zr.jpg

http://www.marca.com/centenario_realmadrid/santana030202.jpg

There are also plans to build a new third tier in Sevilla's FC stadium and cover the stands increasing the current capacity of 45,000 to the new for 55,000 spectators :)

3rd tier but onyl to 55.000?
the new 3rd tier will be small than, becuas Allianz Arena 1st and 2d tier is 44,000

Now that Espanyol are building a new stadium what are they gonna do with the olympic stadium?

why did Espanyol move out of their original home anyway?.Remembering the classic Italy v Brazil match from the '82 world cup,it looked a classic staduim

also,what is the capacity of that new Valencia stadium

^^The new VCF's stadium capacity is for 73,000 spectators for football matches and around 55,000-60,000 for athletics.

@www.sercan.de: that 3rd tier is so small, I've seen some pictures in the spanish forum.
You can see some renderings in this forum:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=258902

This was the project for "Gipuzkoarena", the renovation of the Anoeta stadium, home of Real Sociedad (from Donostia-San Sebastián, Basque Country).

It now has 32.000 seats, it was going to have about 42.000 after the renovation.

The project has been rejected because of budget problems.


Renders

http://www.real-sociedad-sad.es/caste/home/ampliar.asp?imagen1=/img/general/instalaciones/gipuzkoarena_01.jpg&imagen2=&sharpen=1&sharpenvalue=130&marca=20

http://www.real-sociedad-sad.es/caste/home/ampliar.asp?imagen1=/img/general/instalaciones/gipuzkoarena_02.jpg&imagen2=&sharpen=1&sharpenvalue=130&marca=20

http://www.real-sociedad-sad.es/caste/home/ampliar.asp?imagen1=/img/general/instalaciones/gipuzkoarena_03.jpg&imagen2=&sharpen=1&sharpenvalue=130&marca=20

http://www.real-sociedad-sad.es/caste/home/ampliar.asp?imagen1=/img/general/instalaciones/gipuzkoarena_04.jpg&imagen2=&sharpen=1&sharpenvalue=130&marca=20

http://www.real-sociedad-sad.es/caste/home/ampliar.asp?imagen1=/img/general/instalaciones/gipuzkoarena_05.jpg&imagen2=&sharpen=1&sharpenvalue=130&marca=20

http://www.real-sociedad-sad.es/caste/home/ampliar.asp?imagen1=/img/general/instalaciones/gipuzkoarena_09.jpg&imagen2=&sharpen=1&sharpenvalue=130&marca=20

http://www.real-sociedad-sad.es/caste/home/ampliar.asp?imagen1=/img/general/instalaciones/gipuzkoarena_10.jpg&imagen2=&sharpen=1&sharpenvalue=130&marca=20

http://www.real-sociedad-sad.es/caste/home/ampliar.asp?imagen1=/img/general/instalaciones/gipuzkoarena_11.jpg&imagen2=&sharpen=1&sharpenvalue=130&marca=20

http://www.real-sociedad-sad.es/caste/home/ampliar.asp?imagen1=/img/general/instalaciones/gipuzkoarena_12.jpg&imagen2=&sharpen=1&sharpenvalue=130&marca=20

http://www.real-sociedad-sad.es/caste/home/ampliar.asp?imagen1=/img/general/instalaciones/gipuzkoarena_13.jpg&imagen2=&sharpen=1&sharpenvalue=130&marca=20

http://www.real-sociedad-sad.es/caste/home/ampliar.asp?imagen1=/img/general/instalaciones/gipuzkoarena_15.jpg&imagen2=&sharpen=1&sharpenvalue=130&marca=20

thank you SkyLerm
but ii isn't so small :D

the pics (lzy SkyLerm D:)

http://img57.imageshack.us/my.php?image=10000656yl3eo.jpg
http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/7497/10000635sk2rf.jpg

@Klima: They won't build Guipuzkoarena? It's a pity that such a nice project don't be carry out :(

Ramón Calderón is the new president of Real Madrid
http://www.realmadrid.com/addon/img/2ee006288ramoncalderonconbanderap.jpg

http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/discurso_32169.htm
http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/proclamacion_ramon_calderon_32167.htm
http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/capello_pedja_haran_equipo_32171.htm
http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/presidente_dia_32172.htm
http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/ramon_calderona_realmadrid_tv_32178.htm





His sportive staff
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/379/dibujoug7.jpg

1. Pedja Mijatovic_Director General:
http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/mijatovic_valdebebas_conoce_32183.htm
http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/pedja_mijatovic_32273.htm

2. Franco Baldini_Technical Director:
http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/Capello/defensivo/juega/puntas/dasftbA00/20060706dasdaiftb_34/Tes/

3. Fabio Capello_ Coach of Real Madrid:
http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/capello_ejerce_32201.htm
http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/firma_capello_32215.htm
http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/traerle_era_obsesion_32218.htm
http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/quiero_recuperar_espiritu_32219.htm
http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/dia_reconocimiento_32274.htm

4. Vlade Divac_ Basketball Director:
http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/vlade_divac_bernabeu_32182.htm

5. Michel González_ Coach of Castilla and Academy Director:
http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/michel_cantera_frente_32192.htm
http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/mi_obsesion_formacion_32194.htm
http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/presentacion_oficial_32277.htm





A project of a new Basketball Arena
90 M€
seats: 16.300+810 (VIP)+350 (restaurant)
44.580 m2

http://www.ramoncalderon.com/Ficheros/presentación%20pabellón.pps

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http://i73.imagethrust.com/i/513384/slide0006image030.jpg

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http://i73.imagethrust.com/i/513401/slide0009image039.jpg





A some other new things...

I am not sure of where it lei but if they transferred the stadiums Santiago bernabeu it built with a capacity for 120.000 people.

Awesome

http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/8513/recortesp9.jpg

EVATA is going to design the Basketball Arena.
Evata is one of Europe’s leading architectural and consulting groups. The board of Valencia CF has awarded them the design of its new stadium of the football club. Evata has special expertise and experience on Sports and entertainment venues. Evata’s recent realizations include for example Colorline Arena in Hamburg, Germany and Kazan Arena in Russia, the home of AK Bars, last season Russian champion in ice-hockey. Magnitogorsk Arena in Russia is under construction and multipurpose arena in Malmö, Sweden is under design.


Evata also collaborated with Real Madrid with a 2004project in "La Esquina del Bernabéu " but I don't know if it is going to be built.
http://www.evata.com/site/reffx/Esquina%20Bernabeu.pdf
"The emblematic La Esquina del Bernabéu Shopping Centre is in remodelling an possibly also to be extended. The Centre is located at the edge of the Real Madrid football stadium where importante renovations works are currently being carried out. The goal of the project is to reshape the entrances, extend the parking and renovate the present mall floors and roofs. The first floor remains united ti de facade of the Padre Damián street and cannot be extended. New tenants will be housed after the renovation such as medium size commercial units and an official shop for the Real Madrid club on the first floor".

http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/9854/1wm7.jpg

http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/6214/2qs0.jpg

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/8333/3be6ko2.jpg

ROYAL MADRID

On June 29, 1920 the president, executives and the captain of "Madrid Foot-ball Club" go to the Oriente Palace where the King Alfonso XIII grants the most important title that the Spanish Crown grants, the title of Real (Royal). Since this day the club will be call "Real Madrid", a crown is added to the emblem, and the King became in the Honorific President of the Club.

In the pic Carlos Aparici (executive), Meléndez (executive and ex-president), Pedro Parages (president), Julio Chulilla (executive) and Santiago Bernabéu (captain of the team and future president of Real Madrid).

http://img432.imageshack.us/img432/3725/1realfx2.jpg

Why are shopping malls integral to any expansion? The esadio de luz in Lisbon was a nightmare for that!
Doesnt it restrict further expansion for the football stadium in the future?

Why are shopping malls integral to any expansion? The esadio de luz in Lisbon was a nightmare for that!
Doesnt it restrict further expansion for the football stadium in the future?
This mall (La Esquina del Bernabéu) was build in the 90's by Ramón Mendoza who was the president of Real Madrid (1985-1995). The Evata project (2004) is a proposal to remodel it, but there is not any official info about it.

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/1579/amenazabombapy6.jpg

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/5329/dibujoel5.jpg

In spite of being placed in the center of the city, it is not a very big mall as Colombo Shopping Center, so it is not a problem at all.
The stadium cannot grow any more, the last expansion grow till the limit; so the mall does not restrict any expansion.

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/6979/112575720048bwdt1sg2.jpg

In two months Real Madrid will receive permission of the city council to build a new building in la Ciudad de Real Madrid. It will be a residence for the kids of the Academy. At this moment Real Madrid has 70 young players in the Academy who are not from Madrid and they live in different schools of the city; because of it is necessary a project like that. The building will have common zones (to study, to eat, to enjoy,...) and 60 double rooms.

NUEVA CONDOMINA.. REAL mURCIA NEW STADIUM..


http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/9909/nc0708069010ym4.jpg


http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/6329/nc0708069012mg7.jpg
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/1043/nc0708069013wo7.jpg


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Today I'm going to talk about Valdebebas.
La Ciudad del Real Madrid (Real Madrid's City) is placed in a neighborhood called Valdebebas that today does not exist; it is in construction but in a few years will turn into another neighborhood of Madrid. This huge project is going to place la Ciudad del Real Madrid into an urban environment in a few years.


The situation in the city:

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/7061/ubicacionjg8.jpg


In this picture you can see how Valdebebas will be. The blue forms are destined to hotels, restaurants, offices... and to a big comercial center. As you can see, la Ciudad de la Justicia (the City of the Justice) is located in front of the land of Real Madrid. Valdebebas will also have an urban park of 500 hectares with a lake. 12.500 families will live in this privileged neighborhood.

http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/7295/planoordenacionhr3.jpg


The land in 2004. La Ciudad del Real Madrid is placed in this corner.

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/2810/untitledxy8.jpg

February 19, 2004

Valdebebas
http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/8504/119febrero2004fg5.jpg

Ciudad del Real Madrid
http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/4338/1119febrero2004iw7.jpg



July 25, 2004

Valdebebas
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/7884/225julio2004wg5.jpg

Ciudad del Real Madrid
http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/4979/2225julio2004ct6fz4.jpg

March 11, 2005

Valdebebas
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/1227/311marzo2005tz8.jpg

Ciudad del Real Madrid
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/3696/3311marzo2005cp0.jpg



September 20, 2005

Valdebebas
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/9876/420septiembre2005bp9.jpg

Ciudad del Real Madrid
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/8969/4420septiembre2005ov0.jpg

December 6, 2005

Valdebebas
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/2437/56diciembre2005hz0.jpg

Ciudad del Real Madrid
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/7219/556diciembre2005bj2.jpg



April 11, 2006

Valdebebas
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/5554/611abril2006hv0.jpg

Ciudad del Real Madrid
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/8875/6611abril2006ki7.jpg

The future

Valdebebas
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/6088/valdebebascenitalqa7.jpg

The Comercial Centre of Valdebebas
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/8237/valdebebascomercialqc0.jpg

The lake of Valdebebas
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/4669/valdebebaslagomj3.jpg

La Ciudad de la Justicia of Valdebebas
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/6389/valdebebascjusticiakg6.jpg

La Ciudad del Real Madrid
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/9108/slide0255image002of2.png

Video: http://www.parquedevaldebebas.com/archivos/area_prensa/corporativo/Parque%20de%20Valdebebas%20-%20Infografia.mpg





You can see all this pics (at real size) here: http://www.parquedevaldebebas.com/corporativo.php

New Arena in Cartagena (Spain) under construction

Seats: 5.000 espectadores.
Superficie: 30.000 metros cuadrados.
Presupuesto: 15 millones de euros.
Plazo de ejecución: 18 meses.


Fotos y planos

Exterior:
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/4760/exterior2yw0.jpg

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/237/exterior1if9.jpg

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/9300/exterior3jy8.jpg

Interiores:
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/1981/interior1il6.jpg

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/2794/interior1bhs4.jpg

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/5286/interior2ru6.jpg

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http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/2979/interior3qf2.jpg

Today a sports newspaper say that Real Madrid wants to improve the economic yield of the land where there is "La Esquina del Bernabéu" (its small shopping center).
The land is rented to URBIS until 2011 but this company wants to extend the contract. Real Madrid is thinking that it might construct a building as high as the stadium, an office building to rent. The last option would be the sale of the land; it is said that this small triangle of land in the center of the city has a worth of 400M €.
http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/Esquina/Bernabeu/vale/400/millones/dasftb/20061004dasdaiftb_7/Tes/

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/8778/recortefb9.jpg


Real Madrid bought this land in 1927 for 620.000 pesetas.

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/2140/sinttulokk1.jpg


I do not think that Real Madrid goes to sell the area, now it does not have problems with money as it does not happened six years ago. In 2000 Real Madrid sold four skyscrapers that will be located in its Old Training Center, to not disappear as a sports institution.

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/9453/sinttulo11xo9.jpg

I think this one is almost finished
Real Murcia and Cuidad Murcia are going to play her
33.000 cap and I like it
http://i10.tinypic.com/48puziw.jpg
http://i10.tinypic.com/345j58k.jpg
http://i10.tinypic.com/3444djm.jpg
http://i10.tinypic.com/3yi4ab9.jpg
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The new building placed close to the shopping center, is almost finished:

http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/bernabeu_crece_34184.htm



http://www.realmadrid.com/addon/img/1235226288edificioabrirp.jpg http://www.realmadrid.com/addon/img/1235226288fachada2p.jpg

The construction of Real Madrid's Multi-use Building has lasted for 17 months and is nearing its end. It is on Padre Damián street in Madrid, on a 2,226.67 m2 lot, it will have five stories for general stadium use -parking, Press Room, Mixed Zone, Player Zone, television set, etc.- offices, and a big store of Real Madrid and Adidas products.

The construction works are divided into three sections. The most advanced area is the one destined for the Club's general use sections. This area is comprised of the following sections: Access to the Presidential Balcony, multi-use room, Player Zone, Press Area, Garage, and a central vertical access to the stadium.
The Presidential Balcony, the Player Zone and the Press Area could be used to hold various kinds of events in the future, apart from keeping the role they play on a regular match day.


PRESS AREA
Santiago Bernabéu Stadium's new Press Room is on Floor -2 of the building, and holds areas for the different kinds of media: room for the press, television sets, and a production area and television set for Realmadrid TV.

The Press Room is of approximately 350 m2, and can hold up to 208 seated people. It has 26 working booths equipped for members of the press, and alotted spots for photographers and television cameras. It also holds booths for simultaneous translators. All the spots reserved for cameras and press are fully equipped to allow live broadcasts.

The room has been designed to be able to split for two different simultaneous usages. It is air conditioned and well lit for the comfort of its users. It also has fire detection devices and sprinklers required by safety regulations.

http://www.realmadrid.com/addon/img/1235226288salaprensap.jpg

There are three television sets designed following UEFA regulations, that are placed next to the Mixed Zone and the Press Room.

http://www.realmadrid.com/addon/img/1235226288settelevisionp.jpg

That same floor holds the area reserved for Realmadrid TV, which comprises a television set and a production area, divided into two sections; one for video and one for audio. It also holds racks.ha

http://www.realmadrid.com/addon/img/1235226288platop.jpg http://www.realmadrid.com/addon/img/1235226288realizacionp.jpg


ACCESS TO THE PRESIDENTIAL BALCONY AND THE PLAYER ZONE
One of the most splendid novelties this building comprises is the Presidential Balcony, which shows how much the access has been extended for the important personalities that attend matches at the Santiago Bernabéu.

http://www.realmadrid.com/addon/img/1235226288palcop.jpg http://www.realmadrid.com/addon/img/1235226288halpalcop.jpg

http://www.realmadrid.com/addon/img/1235226288salonreyp.jpg

The Player Zone is on Floor -1, and it's designed for the players' family members to wait for them there after the matches. It holds a waiting room, a bar and a kitchen.

http://www.realmadrid.com/addon/img/1235226288salavipp.jpg

The building is connected to the stadium only by the area before the Presidential Balcony and the Mixed Zone, because it has been designed to be used independently from the stadium. There are various VIP rooms with a kitchen. They could be used for meetings or events.


PARKING

http://www.realmadrid.com/addon/img/1235226288parkingp.jpg

The building's parking has approximately 450 m2, and can hold 18 large vehicles. The parking has two access routes to the building. One of them connects the parking, Player Zone, Presidential Balcony, VIP Lounge and what will be the Future Board Room for the Managing Direction offices. This will make it the most important access to the edifice. Also, on match days, the stadium's current offices and the changing rooms can be accessed from the parking by going through the mixed zone.

http://www.realmadrid.com/addon/img/1235226288zonamixtap.jpg

A new security post has been built in the gallery next to the parking. It controls both vehicle and pedestrian access to the stadium. Eighteen obstacles have been installed on this side of the stadium to prevent parking in the area.


OFFICES

http://www.realmadrid.com/addon/img/1235226288oficinasp.jpg

Floor 2 is completely designed to hold offices. The Club's Managing Direction departments will be placed there, as well as the new Presidential Board Room. The floor above is an open terrace with a garden that has extraordinary views of the stadium and of Padre Damián street.

http://www.realmadrid.com/addon/img/1235226288terrazap.jpg


CENTRAL MECHANICAL STAIRS
A set of mechanical stairs has been constructed in the centre of the stadium's East Side to ease access to the higher parts. It is destined for the crowd accessing the stadium from Gates 46 and 55. It is linked to Level 2 of the Second and Third Amphitheaters.

The six staricases will carry 9,000 people every hour. They are equipped with the required security devices and are controlled by CCTV cameras. They will also be watched by the stadium's centralised control system, so that any alarm on that section is immediately picked up by the main control center.


REAL MADRID SHOP

http://www.realmadrid.com/addon/img/1235226288futuratiendap.jpg

The new Multi-use Building will have the largest known shop for a Football Club, that will cover 2.600 m2. The store will have three floors: Floor -1 will sell exclusive Real Madrid merchandise; the Ground Floor will sell Real Madrid-Adidas products, such as team kits and Adidas sponsored products; and Floor 1 will sell Adidas sports clothes, shoes, etc.

The three floors are linked by mechanical stairs and a panoramic lift placed in its centre. It will also hold offices, toilets, dressing rooms and a kithcen for its employees.

The shop can be accessed from Padre Damián street, and the entrance is next to Gate 57. It's façade is made of glass and is 40 metres high, and it will allow pedestrians to see Real Madrid products from the street. The store's ground floor exits to a nice little terrace with artificial grass and a view to the stadium. The works on this area, like on the rest of the building, are running steadily and smoothly.


THE END IS NEAR
It all started 17 months ago. The terrain was emptied on February 2005, by demolishing the "trident" -the stadium's historical ramp with access to the amphitheatres. The works go fifteen metres into the ground, and have been undertaken by 500 workers.

All the facilities are expected to be operative by the start of the new year. By then, these works will have improved on the stadium's requirements during match days, and it's everyday use for the Club's employees.

I think this one is almost finished
Real Murcia and Cuidad Murcia are going to play her
33.000 cap and I like it



wow, it looks almost exactly like Karaiskaki stadium for Olympiakos:


http://www.stadia.gr/karaiskaki/karaiskaki2.jpg

http://i10.tinypic.com/48puziw.jpg


http://www.stadia.gr/karaiskaki/karaiskaki6.jpg

http://i10.tinypic.com/3yi4ab9.jpg

it is a nice but not a very original stadium that is true. I am lacking a lot of originality in stadiums these days anyway... or is that just me

that nueva condomina project looks good!

it is a nice but not a very original stadium that is true. I am lacking a lot of originality in stadiums these days anyway... or is that just me


I feel that there is more originality now than say 10 years ago. Every stadium was built like the Riverside stadium.

Now, we have weird designs that stretch the mind to the limit thinking about them

Joseph Blatter visited Real Madrid City before returning to Zurich

http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/y_valdebebas_terminar_35199.htm

http://www.realmadrid.com/addon/img/1516706288blattervaldebebas12p.jpg

The expanded Exhibit Hall of Real Madrid

http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/ampliacion_exposicion_35378.htm

http://www.realmadrid.com/addon/img/1acf486museo5p.jpg

Bernab?u Stadium: six new mechanical stairs

http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/nuevas_comodidades_35427.htm

http://www.realmadrid.com/addon/img/1cb790602escalerap.jpg

http://www.realmadrid.com/addon/img/1cb790601escalerap.jpg

The world's biggest store belonging a football team inaugurated at the Santiago Bernabéu

http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/rma35440.htm

http://www.realmadrid.com/addon/img/1cb7906288tienda1p.jpg

http://www.rcdespanyol.com/galeria/thumbs/galeria/tn_1167842127.JPGhttp://www.rcdespanyol.com/galeria/thumbs/galeria/tn_1168258136.JPGhttp://www.rcdespanyol.com/galeria/thumbs/galeria/tn_1168258117.JPG

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0T_qhtHTHko

http://www.rcdespanyol.com/camara/miniaturas/tn_02CDEC1P02070427180305.jpghttp://www.rcdespanyol.com/camara/miniaturas/tn_02CDEC1P04070427180505.jpg

^^Wonderful Nou Sarria

ESpanyol works..

Panorámiques amb l'estat de les obres:

21 de maig

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y35/fernolea/perico/21may.jpg

11 de juny

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y35/fernolea/perico/11jun.jpg

18 de juny

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y35/fernolea/perico/18jun.jpg

Valencia CF - New Stadium:

http://www.designbuild-network.com/projects/nou%2Dmestalla/

- 75.000 spectators


http://www.designbuild-network.com/projects/nou%2Dmestalla/images/1-parking-map.jpg
http://www.designbuild-network.com/projects/nou%2Dmestalla/images/3-seating-cutout.jpghttp://www.designbuild-network.com/projects/nou%2Dmestalla/images/4-seating-cutout.jpg
http://www.designbuild-network.com/projects/nou%2Dmestalla/index.html#nou-mestalla6
http://www.valenciacf.es/images/noticias/NuevoEstadio/VAlenciaCFestadiox1.jpghttp://www.valenciacf.es/images/noticias/NuevoEstadio/VAlenciaCFestadiox3.jpg
http://www.valenciacf.es/images/noticias/NuevoEstadio/VAlenciaCFestadiox4.jpg
http://www.designbuild-network.com/projects/nou%2Dmestalla/images/7-city-map.jpg

Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjE8ds_JFDo

Summary:
http://213.162.200.230/lanzador/lanzaHTM.asp?Pagina=NUEVO-ESTADIO-FINAL.htm

Which of the two will it be,
I prefer this one

http://i19.tinypic.com/681ftk6.jpg

but this is allright too I guess.

http://i19.tinypic.com/6c4oh83.jpg

Greatest thing is that the third ring will be the biggest, that´s what will make this stadium very impressive and not the same as for instance Bayern Munchen

Any ews of the new stadium in Zaragoza? Is it still paralyzed?

I really hope Real Betis can finish/expand their stadium soon. At the moment the south stand is much smaller than the rest, looks bad :(
http://www.paitsio.com/uploads/pics/betis_stadion.jpg

It could look like this when finished:
http://www.fussballtempel.net/uefa/ESP/Ruiz_Lopera_new_A.jpg

Anyone has news about this project?

Sevilla is probably going to expand too, they're very succesful at the moment and the stadium is sold out every week. Today there are nearly 70'000 Sevillistas in Madrid for the Cup final :eek:

Camp Nou is going to be renovated too, the project will be presented at the 24th of September.
It's not sure yet if the capacity is going to be increased.

The new stadium of Espanyol looks really nice, maybe a bit too big for their needs though.

Which of the two will it be,
I prefer this one

http://i19.tinypic.com/681ftk6.jpg

but this is allright too I guess.

http://i19.tinypic.com/6c4oh83.jpg

Greatest thing is that the third ring will be the biggest, that´s what will make this stadium very impressive and not the same as for instance Bayern Munchen

It will be this:
http://i19.tinypic.com/681ftk6.jpg

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa13/AdemABorja2/palaciodeportesbilbao01copiar.jpg

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa13/AdemABorja2/palaciodeportesbilbao02copiar.jpg

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa13/AdemABorja2/palaciodeportesbilbao04copiar.jpg

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa13/AdemABorja2/palaciodeportesbilbao05copiar.jpg

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa13/AdemABorja2/palaciodeportesbilbao06copiar.jpg

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa13/AdemABorja2/palaciodeportesbilbao07copiar.jpg

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa13/AdemABorja2/palaciodeportesbilbao08copiar.jpg

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa13/AdemABorja2/palaciodeportesbilbao09copiar.jpg

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa13/AdemABorja2/palaciodeportesbilbao11copiar.jpg

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa13/AdemABorja2/palaciodeportesbilbao12copiar.jpg

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa13/AdemABorja2/palaciodeportesbilbao14copiar.jpg

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa13/AdemABorja2/palaciodeportesbilbao16copiar.jpg

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa13/AdemABorja2/palaciodeportesbilbao17copiar.jpg

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa13/AdemABorja2/palaciodeportesbilbao18copiar.jpg

eee strange.

What. The. Fuck.

Uhh, this seems 2 be awful... Looks like it's fallen into one of Popeye's spinach-boxes :scouserd:

i like it

awful

Any new informations about expansion of Ramón Sánchez Pizjuán?