hi, anyone knows what is the easiesrt way to get to suntec city by public transport? thanks

Just take express bus no 36, just 2 stops and 10 minutes away from Suntech City. So convenient

Love Laguna,

Thanks for your effort to improve our estates, let's hope WL will follow through and implement some of our recommendations.

One word of advice should you want to cross Amber Road over to the bus stop. It is better to use the traffic light though you end up crossing 2 traffic lights. I was stranded in the middle of the road and pretty scary as the traffic is really heavy.

I had tried to jaywalk on Marine Parade Rd at Parkway Parade on a weekend and took me over 10 mins to cross that road. Hence overhead bridge and traffic lights are safer though troublesome.

This is to keep all posted of the meeting we had with WL on 27 May.


Prusa and I met the representative from WL, two architects from RSP and a gentleman, I think is the project manager, for an hour. We stepped through many issues and concerns covering the unit layout design (like maid’s room, kitchen layout and entrance space for type C and D), block design, basement carpark (like car washing, signage), club house (lighting, and pool/majong table, use of function room), estate management (like sunning of laundry at the balcony, at least there are two units doing this now), security, tree planting etc including all the feedback gathered from you.


The list of issues was given to WL without keeping a copy. Many issues raised were feedback for WL to take into consideration for their future projects so the needs of home makers can be better addressed. I am not sure whether WL will get back, if they do, I will update you accordingly.


I just want to inform you the major (ie touches on security and safety) unresolved issues :


1. Security : many of us have expressed deep concerns over the physical security of the unit. Prusa and I were shown of the approved window grill. Both of us rejected it as it is not durable to withstand the weather (we are very near to the sea), and the owners shall not bear with the problem of rust and paint dropping within years and the estate will then carry the problems for good. Of course, the design is another consideration for not accepting. Prusa felt that the cost of such installation shall be absorbed by the developer and not the owners as this is a shortcoming of design. Well, this is going to be difficult as there are many units being affected including those at the high floor.


2. Prusa has 5 bikes and I have three. All bikes will be grounded at basement and not allowed to transport via lift, but via the carpark ramp. This is not acceptable for safety reason. There is no separate track for bike at the ramp.


WL has taken action for certain minor issues like removed the death plants, setting up of bike rack at the basement (well, the bike will be overpopulated very soon), installation of holders and hangers at the shower room to the pool. I think they will look into the signage at the carpark as well.


At the end of the day, I felt rather bad to bring up so many issues reflecting the work of the architects in the presence of WL. This is not my style but I was given no choice due to the circumstances. My apology to the two architects. Well, Mr Love Laguna commented on me that : “all because of u…”:bash:



Nevertheless, we have taken one big step. Most important, WL is willing to listen. Well, we have to see the end result. Action will speak for the effectiveness of the session.


Prusa : any more to add? Thanks for the joint forces.:) You really aired out the frustration faced by many of us. Happy moving.

For your info : Prusa has done a major overhaul of all the closet and wallrobe. I did minor surgery to enhance the usability of these.


Not much to add...Love Laguna did a terrific job in representing everyone's views. :banana: I ran into WL this afternoon and they said that another proposal for the security grill is in the works and should out within days. I think WL and the MA teams are really working hard on the issues the SPs have raised.

Finally, some idiot came up to my wife in the parking lot Wednesday, handed over a "inspection sheet" and said call him for a inspection of the unit's electrical and aircons. This is clearly a scam - similar to ST stories of HDB estate scams. I informed the MA immediately and they have tighten security within the parking lot. If you see any of this nonsense do not be shy in reporting it immediately to the MA's office.

Just take express bus no 36, just 2 stops and 10 minutes away from Suntech City. So convenient

Thanks bro, that is indeed convenient. Will bring my client for viewing tom. Heard it is agent hell at seaview as it is very hard to get in. Heard stories that tenants walk off angry because agent has to park on the main road.
Not good for landlord's too.

Thanks bro, that is indeed convenient. Will bring my client for viewing tom. Heard it is agent hell at seaview as it is very hard to get in. Heard stories that tenants walk off angry because agent has to park on the main road.
Not good for landlord's too.

Btw lax security and unhappy prospective tenants-to-be over residents' safety, I'm sure the residents' interest will be the most importance priority. Angry agents and their clients can always look for the other condo projects with more "convenient security access". In fact, restricted access may even be a plus-point for those agents to promote to prospective buyers/tenants :nuts:

One remaining wardrobe shelf (bedroom 3 - type E unit) to be given away. Last call. Can pick-up immediately. PM me if you want it. First come first serve.

One remaining wardrobe shelf (bedroom 3 - type E unit) to be given away. Last call. Can pick-up immediately. PM me if you want it. First come first serve.

UPDATE - OK...last one gone. Thanks.

Wee family goes condo-shopping
Its members pick up three units in Nassim Park Residences for $40m

(SINGAPORE) Members of the Wee family have bought three units at Nassim Park Residences near Botanic Gardens for a total of nearly $40 million, a filing by UOL Group to Singapore Exchange (SGX) on Wednesday shows.

Wee Ee Cheong, CEO of United Overseas Bank and son of UOL chairman and controlling shareholder Wee Cho Yaw, picked up a penthouse for $18.33 million or $2,670 per square foot (psf).

Two of his siblings bought a sky unit each in the five-storey freehold condo at about $10.6 million each. Wee Ee Chao, who sits on the UOL board, bought a unit with his wife Jennifer for $3,308 psf, while his sister Wei Chi snapped up a unit for herself for $3,293 psf.

The SGX filing also showed that UOL director Alan Choe's son Jonathan, through his company Montgomery Hills, bought a ground-floor unit, that comes with its own pool, for nearly $11.5 million or $2,513 psf.

Buyers of the four units received a special 2 per cent discount. More than 40 units have been sold in the development, which has a total 100 units, since its preview began the week of Vesak Day.

The average price achieved is said to be somewhere in the $3,000-$3,200 psf band, although analysts expect the developer to raise prices slightly when the project is officially launched next week. The project is being marketed by CB Richard Ellis and Savills.

The units in the development are priced at $10 million and above, with each having at least four bedrooms.

Nassim Park Residences has drawn a good mix of local and foreign buyers, and market watchers attribute its encouraging take-up to its 'reasonable pricing'.

'Had this project been launched a year ago, it could have been priced in the mid to high-$3,000 psf range, on average,' a market watcher said.

UOL is developing Nassim Park Residences jointly with Kheng Leong group (a privately owned vehicle of the Wee family) and Japan's Orix Corporation, on the former Nassim Park condo site that UOL bought in August 2006 for $380 million.

Its land cost worked out to about $1,131 psf of potential gross floor area inclusive of an estimated development charge of $8 million at the time. The breakeven cost then for a new development on the site was estimated at $1,600-1,700 psf.

UOL has also sold over 40 units of its 88-unit Breeze by the East condo along Upper East Coast Road near The Bayshore since it began selling the project around mid-April.

The five-storey freehold project was initially priced at about $950 psf on average, but this has since been raised to $980 psf, BT understands.

Even so, the pricing is considered attractive compared with the $1,600-$1,700 psf average price that Tiong Aik picked for its 20-storey freehold Parc Seabreeze in the Marine Parade/Joo Chiat area in early May.

Tiong Aik has since withdrawn the project from the market.

First, thanks Aaron for the message that Seabreeze been withdrawn from market after selling at such high price. All The SeaView owners shall be much happier.

Today is the fifth day I stayed here. I had been very busy these few days, still catching up in buying things to make the place better. Many neighbours (including self invitation) and friends visited.

Also appreciate Aaron being so sweet to buy me PEANUT soup from Beach Road on my day of shifting. :), totally unexpected. But, subsequent to that, I paid a heavy price, he has been trying very hard to prove to me, the lack of privacy of low floor. He called, SMSed, and told me what was I doing in my unit. TERRIBLE....lucky, Aaron will stay here for ONLY THREE MONTHS from next week when he shift in. He was not pleased with size even thought I had prepared him for it on the day I collected the key.

This is a great place with space to stay, I enjoy very much, and hope u all can join me soonest possible.

WL unofficially updated me that they are still working on the window grills. Not to the common area, but for individual owner to install at the yard at their own cost. I am trying very hard to have WL to settle the bill...can all we think something about this. Not sure about windows at the yard.

We are allowed to have shoe rack at the entrace, the private clove area (covered with the marble), which is part of the built-in. Also don't put up window film, we will be asked to remove.

Just online today, found there were not many postings...

Hi L.Laguna good to have you back online.

Thanks for all your feedback,info and your kind hospitality.

Refer to window grills, can we instead opt to install windows (similar to the one in your yard) as it will help in 2 ways - to keep out the rain and security.

Hi L.Laguna good to have you back online.

Thanks for all your feedback,info and your kind hospitality.

Refer to window grills, can we instead opt to install windows (similar to the one in your yard) as it will help in 2 ways - to keep out the rain and security.
Sorry Lah, u hv to check with WL or the mgt office

Hi L.Laguna good to have you back online.

Thanks for all your feedback,info and your kind hospitality.

Refer to window grills, can we instead opt to install windows (similar to the one in your yard) as it will help in 2 ways - to keep out the rain and security.

Hi Propty-aire,

I'm in full support with you on having windows instal at the yard area. I have already written in to WL and hope to gather more of the same support thru you and the rest on grd of security, rain and dust......:banana:

Pls write in to WL :bash:

First, thanks Aaron for the message that Seabreeze been withdrawn from market after selling at such high price. All The SeaView owners shall be much happier.

Today is the fifth day I stayed here. I had been very busy these few days, still catching up in buying things to make the place better. Many neighbours (including self invitation) and friends visited.

Also appreciate Aaron being so sweet to buy me PEANUT soup from Beach Road on my day of shifting. :), totally unexpected. But, subsequent to that, I paid a heavy price, he has been trying very hard to prove to me, the lack of privacy of low floor. He called, SMSed, and told me what was I doing in my unit. TERRIBLE....lucky, Aaron will stay here for ONLY THREE MONTHS from next week when he shift in. He was not pleased with size even thought I had prepared him for it on the day I collected the key.

This is a great place with space to stay, I enjoy very much, and hope u all can join me soonest possible.

WL unofficially updated me that they are still working on the window grills. Not to the common area, but for individual owner to install at the yard at their own cost. I am trying very hard to have WL to settle the bill...can all we think something about this. Not sure about windows at the yard.

We are allowed to have shoe rack at the entrace, the private clove area (covered with the marble), which is part of the built-in. Also don't put up window film, we will be asked to remove.

Just online today, found there were not many postings...


Hey, I just saw on a 4th flr unit (with its front facing Amber Rd) with window film on (including the balcony)..... did the unit manage to get a special approval?!?! Anyone know how to get the same approved!?!

Hey, I just saw on a 4th flr unit (with its front facing Amber Rd) with window film on (including the balcony)..... did the unit manage to get a special approval?!?! Anyone know how to get the same approved!?!


Yes have noticed it as well - seems like the film (on the balcony) is a camouflage for them to hang the laundry on the balcony railings !!

Yes have noticed it as well - seems like the film (on the balcony) is a camouflage for them to hang the laundry on the balcony railings !!

I spoke to the Manager of the MA on window film. Accordingly to him, this is stated in the owners' manual and strictly not allowed. Owners will be advised to remove them...if not, they will be served with lawyer's letter.??? One more unit at Block 35, lower floor, facing East Coast Rd is also fixed with heavy colour film.

I saw an unit at block 39, I think is 19th floor, fixed their cloths hanger at the balcony...very untidy...

Copied these from somewhere

35, AMBER RD, 14-15
Project Name : THE SEA VIEW Postal (Old/New) : 1543/439945
Contract Date : 29/05/2008 Floor (Area/Rate) : 1410 S.F / $ 722 P.S.F
Property Type : APT Land (Area/Rate) : S.F / P.S.F
Tenure : FH Price : $ 1,018,302

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29, AMBER RD, 20-04
Project Name : THE SEA VIEW Postal (Old/New) : 1543/439942
Contract Date : 23/05/2008 Floor (Area/Rate) : 1647 S.F / $ 1200 P.S.F
Property Type : APT Land (Area/Rate) : S.F / P.S.F
Tenure : FH Price : $ 1,976,400

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33, AMBER RD, 16-12
Project Name : THE SEA VIEW Postal (Old/New) : 1543/439944
Contract Date : 21/05/2008 Floor (Area/Rate) : 1410 S.F / $ 1280 P.S.F
Property Type : APT Land (Area/Rate) : S.F / P.S.F
Tenure : FH Price : $ 1,804,800

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31, AMBER RD, 14-09
Project Name : THE SEA VIEW Postal (Old/New) : 1543/439943
Contract Date : 09/05/2008 Floor (Area/Rate) : 1410 S.F / $ 1277 P.S.F
Property Type : APT Land (Area/Rate) : S.F / P.S.F
Tenure : FH Price : $ 1,800,000

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31, AMBER RD, 16-09
Project Name : THE SEA VIEW Postal (Old/New) : 1543/439943
Contract Date : 06/05/2008 Floor (Area/Rate) : 1410 S.F / $ 1277 P.S.F
Property Type : APT Land (Area/Rate) : S.F / P.S.F
Tenure : FH Price : $ 1,800,000

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37, AMBER RD, 02-18
Project Name : THE SEA VIEW Postal (Old/New) : 1543/439946
Contract Date : 06/05/2008 Floor (Area/Rate) : 1410 S.F / $ 1160 P.S.F
Property Type : APT Land (Area/Rate) : S.F / P.S.F
Tenure : FH Price : $ 1,635,600

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31, AMBER RD, 19-06
Project Name : THE SEA VIEW Postal (Old/New) : 1543/439943
Contract Date : 02/05/2008 Floor (Area/Rate) : 1216 S.F / $ 1290 P.S.F
Property Type : APT Land (Area/Rate) : S.F / P.S.F
Tenure : FH Price : $ 1,568,640

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33, AMBER RD, 02-13
Project Name : THE SEA VIEW Postal (Old/New) : 1543/439944
Contract Date : 29/04/2008 Floor (Area/Rate) : 1647 S.F / $ 1032 P.S.F
Property Type : APT Land (Area/Rate) : S.F / P.S.F
Tenure : FH Price : $ 1,700,000

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31, AMBER RD, 20-09
Project Name : THE SEA VIEW Postal (Old/New) : 1543/439943
Contract Date : 29/04/2008 Floor (Area/Rate) : 1410 S.F / $ 1250 P.S.F
Property Type : APT Land (Area/Rate) : S.F / P.S.F
Tenure : FH Price : $ 1,762,500

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35, AMBER RD, 16-16
Project Name : THE SEA VIEW Postal (Old/New) : 1543/439945
Contract Date : 28/04/2008 Floor (Area/Rate) : 1410 S.F / $ 1200 P.S.F
Property Type : APT Land (Area/Rate) : S.F / P.S.F
Tenure : FH Price : $ 1,692,000

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29, AMBER RD, 11-04
Project Name : THE SEA VIEW Postal (Old/New) : 1543/439942
Contract Date : 18/04/2008 Floor (Area/Rate) : 1647 S.F / $ 756 P.S.F
Property Type : APT Land (Area/Rate) : S.F / P.S.F
Tenure : FH Price : $ 1,245,280

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39, AMBER RD, 03-24
Project Name : THE SEA VIEW Postal (Old/New) : 1543/439947
Contract Date : 09/04/2008 Floor (Area/Rate) : 1518 S.F / $ 1173 P.S.F
Property Type : APT Land (Area/Rate) : S.F / P.S.F
Tenure : FH Price : $ 1,780,000

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35, AMBER RD, 14-16
Project Name : THE SEA VIEW Postal (Old/New) : 1543/439945
Contract Date : 08/04/2008 Floor (Area/Rate) : 1410 S.F / $ 1149 P.S.F
Property Type : APT Land (Area/Rate) : S.F / P.S.F
Tenure : FH Price : $ 1,620,000

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29, AMBER RD, 13-01
Project Name : THE SEA VIEW Postal (Old/New) : 1543/439942
Contract Date : 08/04/2008 Floor (Area/Rate) : 1647 S.F / $ 1214 P.S.F
Property Type : APT Land (Area/Rate) : S.F / P.S.F
Tenure : FH Price : $ 2,000,000

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35, AMBER RD, 03-14
Project Name : THE SEA VIEW Postal (Old/New) : 1543/439945
Contract Date : 03/04/2008 Floor (Area/Rate) : 1647 S.F / $ 725 P.S.F
Property Type : APT Land (Area/Rate) : S.F / P.S.F
Tenure : FH Price : $ 1,194,009

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33, AMBER RD, 15-11
Project Name : THE SEA VIEW Postal (Old/New) : 1543/439944
Contract Date : 28/03/2008 Floor (Area/Rate) : 1410 S.F / $ 801 P.S.F
Property Type : APT Land (Area/Rate) : S.F / P.S.F
Tenure : FH Price : $ 1,128,902

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31, AMBER RD, 16-06
Project Name : THE SEA VIEW Postal (Old/New) : 1543/439943
Contract Date : 24/03/2008 Floor (Area/Rate) : 1216 S.F / $ 1270 P.S.F
Property Type : APT Land (Area/Rate) : S.F / P.S.F
Tenure : FH Price : $ 1,544,320

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35, AMBER RD, 14-15
Project Name : THE SEA VIEW Postal (Old/New) : 1543/439945
Contract Date : 20/03/2008 Floor (Area/Rate) : 1410 S.F / $ 1150 P.S.F
Property Type : APT Land (Area/Rate) : S.F / P.S.F
Tenure : FH Price : $ 1,621,500

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31, AMBER RD, 14-07
Project Name : THE SEA VIEW Postal (Old/New) : 1543/439943
Contract Date : 19/03/2008 Floor (Area/Rate) : 560 S.F / $ 1281 P.S.F
Property Type : APT Land (Area/Rate) : S.F / P.S.F
Tenure : FH Price : $ 716,800

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31, AMBER RD, 12-06
Project Name : THE SEA VIEW Postal (Old/New) : 1543/439943
Contract Date : 18/03/2008 Floor (Area/Rate) : 1216 S.F / $ 1250 P.S.F
Property Type : APT Land (Area/Rate) : S.F / P.S.F
Tenure : FH Price : $ 1,520,000

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37, AMBER RD, 19-20
Project Name : THE SEA VIEW Postal (Old/New) : 1543/439946
Contract Date : 18/03/2008 Floor (Area/Rate) : 560 S.F / $ 1193 P.S.F
Property Type : APT Land (Area/Rate) : S.F / P.S.F
Tenure : FH Price : $ 668,000

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37, AMBER RD, 03-21
Project Name : THE SEA VIEW Postal (Old/New) : 1543/439946
Contract Date : 03/03/2008 Floor (Area/Rate) : 1216 S.F / $ 1200 P.S.F
Property Type : APT Land (Area/Rate) : S.F / P.S.F
Tenure : FH Price : $ 1,459,200

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39, AMBER RD, 10-23
Project Name : THE SEA VIEW Postal (Old/New) : 1543/439947
Contract Date : 26/02/2008 Floor (Area/Rate) : 1647 S.F / $ 1330 P.S.F
Property Type : APT Land (Area/Rate) : S.F / P.S.F
Tenure : FH Price : $ 2,190,500

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29, AMBER RD, 13-01
Project Name : THE SEA VIEW Postal (Old/New) : 1543/439942
Contract Date : 25/02/2008 Floor (Area/Rate) : 1647 S.F / $ 1214 P.S.F
Property Type : APT Land (Area/Rate) : S.F / P.S.F
Tenure : FH Price : $ 2,000,000

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29, AMBER RD, 11-04
Project Name : THE SEA VIEW Postal (Old/New) : 1543/439942
Contract Date : 17/02/2008 Floor (Area/Rate) : 1647 S.F / $ 1214 P.S.F
Property Type : APT Land (Area/Rate) : S.F / P.S.F
Tenure : FH Price : $ 2,000,000

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37, AMBER RD, 17-18
Project Name : THE SEA VIEW Postal (Old/New) : 1543/439946
Contract Date : 15/02/2008 Floor (Area/Rate) : 1410 S.F / $ 835 P.S.F
Property Type : APT Land (Area/Rate) : S.F / P.S.F
Tenure : FH Price : $ 1,177,547

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37, AMBER RD, 10-22
Project Name : THE SEA VIEW Postal (Old/New) : 1543/439946
Contract Date : 13/02/2008 Floor (Area/Rate) : 1410 S.F / $ 768 P.S.F
Property Type : APT Land (Area/Rate) : S.F / P.S.F
Tenure : FH Price : $ 1,082,457

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31, AMBER RD, 05-06
Project Name : THE SEA VIEW Postal (Old/New) : 1543/439943
Contract Date : 04/02/2008 Floor (Area/Rate) : 1216 S.F / $ 1429 P.S.F
Property Type : APT Land (Area/Rate) : S.F / P.S.F
Tenure : FH Price : $ 1,738,000

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35, AMBER RD, 15-15
Project Name : THE SEA VIEW Postal (Old/New) : 1543/439945
Contract Date : 31/01/2008 Floor (Area/Rate) : 1410 S.F / $ 733 P.S.F
Property Type : APT Land (Area/Rate) : S.F / P.S.F
Tenure : FH Price : $ 1,033,868

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35, AMBER RD, 05-14
Project Name : THE SEA VIEW Postal (Old/New) : 1543/439945
Contract Date : 28/01/2008 Floor (Area/Rate) : 1647 S.F / $ 740 P.S.F
Property Type : APT Land (Area/Rate) : S.F / P.S.F
Tenure : FH Price : $ 1,218,253

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35, AMBER RD, 03-14
Project Name : THE SEA VIEW Postal (Old/New) : 1543/439945
Contract Date : 24/01/2008 Floor (Area/Rate) : 1647 S.F / $ 1350 P.S.F
Property Type : APT Land (Area/Rate) : S.F / P.S.F
Tenure : FH Price : $ 2,223,450

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31, AMBER RD, 20-05
Project Name : THE SEA VIEW Postal (Old/New) : 1543/439943
Contract Date : 23/01/2008 Floor (Area/Rate) : 1410 S.F / $ 851 P.S.F
Property Type : APT Land (Area/Rate) : S.F / P.S.F
Tenure : FH Price : $ 1,199,910

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35, AMBER RD, 07-16
Project Name : THE SEA VIEW Postal (Old/New) : 1543/439945
Contract Date : 21/01/2008 Floor (Area/Rate) : 1410 S.F / $ 1260 P.S.F
Property Type : APT Land (Area/Rate) : S.F / P.S.F
Tenure : FH Price : $ 1,776,600

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33, AMBER RD, 15-11
Project Name : THE SEA VIEW Postal (Old/New) : 1543/439944
Contract Date : 18/01/2008 Floor (Area/Rate) : 1410 S.F / $ 1360 P.S.F
Property Type : APT Land (Area/Rate) : S.F / P.S.F
Tenure : FH Price : $ 1,917,600

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29, AMBER RD, 13-03
Project Name : THE SEA VIEW Postal (Old/New) : 1543/439942
Contract Date : 16/01/2008 Floor (Area/Rate) : 1518 S.F / $ 1330 P.S.F
Property Type : APT Land (Area/Rate) : S.F / P.S.F
Tenure : FH Price : $ 2,019,000

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29, AMBER RD, 05-01
Project Name : THE SEA VIEW Postal (Old/New) : 1543/439942
Contract Date : 28/12/2007 Floor (Area/Rate) : 1647 S.F / $ 720 P.S.F
Property Type : APT Land (Area/Rate) : S.F / P.S.F
Tenure : FH Price : $ 1,185,544

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29, AMBER RD, 05-04
Project Name : THE SEA VIEW Postal (Old/New) : 1543/439942
Contract Date : 28/12/2007 Floor (Area/Rate) : 1647 S.F / $ 715 P.S.F
Property Type : APT Land (Area/Rate) : S.F / P.S.F
Tenure : FH Price : $ 1,177,885

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37, AMBER RD, 17-18
Project Name : THE SEA VIEW Postal (Old/New) : 1543/439946
Contract Date : 21/12/2007 Floor (Area/Rate) : 1410 S.F / $ 1560 P.S.F
Property Type : APT Land (Area/Rate) : S.F / P.S.F
Tenure : FH Price : $ 2,200,000

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37, AMBER RD, 10-22
Project Name : THE SEA VIEW Postal (Old/New) : 1543/439946
Contract Date : 19/12/2007 Floor (Area/Rate) : 1410 S.F / $ 1550 P.S.F
Property Type : APT Land (Area/Rate) : S.F / P.S.F
Tenure : FH Price : $ 2,185,500

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35, AMBER RD, 16-15
Project Name : THE SEA VIEW Postal (Old/New) : 1543/439945
Contract Date : 07/12/2007 Floor (Area/Rate) : 1410 S.F / $ 1336 P.S.F
Property Type : APT Land (Area/Rate) : S.F / P.S.F
Tenure : FH Price : $ 1,883,500

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31, AMBER RD, 08-05
Project Name : THE SEA VIEW Postal (Old/New) : 1543/439943
Contract Date : 07/12/2007 Floor (Area/Rate) : 1410 S.F / $ 1250 P.S.F
Property Type : APT Land (Area/Rate) : S.F / P.S.F
Tenure : FH Price : $ 1,762,500

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29, AMBER RD, 06-01
Project Name : THE SEA VIEW Postal (Old/New) : 1543/439942
Contract Date : 06/12/2007 Floor (Area/Rate) : 1647 S.F / $ 725 P.S.F
Property Type : APT Land (Area/Rate) : S.F / P.S.F
Tenure : FH Price : $ 1,193,202

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31, AMBER RD, 12-07
Project Name : THE SEA VIEW Postal (Old/New) : 1543/439943
Contract Date : 30/11/2007 Floor (Area/Rate) : 560 S.F / $ 1429 P.S.F
Property Type : APT Land (Area/Rate) : S.F / P.S.F
Tenure : FH Price : $ 800,000

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39, AMBER RD, 20-24
Project Name : THE SEA VIEW Postal (Old/New) : 1543/439947
Contract Date : 16/11/2007 Floor (Area/Rate) : 1518 S.F / $ 772 P.S.F
Property Type : APT Land (Area/Rate) : S.F / P.S.F
Tenure : FH Price : $ 1,172,200

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35, AMBER RD, 07-14
Project Name : THE SEA VIEW Postal (Old/New) : 1543/439945
Contract Date : 14/11/2007 Floor (Area/Rate) : 1647 S.F / $ 1400 P.S.F
Property Type : APT Land (Area/Rate) : S.F / P.S.F
Tenure : FH Price : $ 2,305,800

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31, AMBER RD, 20-05
Project Name : THE SEA VIEW Postal (Old/New) : 1543/439943
Contract Date : 12/11/2007 Floor (Area/Rate) : 1410 S.F / $ 1480 P.S.F
Property Type : APT Land (Area/Rate) : S.F / P.S.F
Tenure : FH Price : $ 2,086,800

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31, AMBER RD, 17-07
Project Name : THE SEA VIEW Postal (Old/New) : 1543/439943
Contract Date : 12/11/2007 Floor (Area/Rate) : 560 S.F / $ 1306 P.S.F
Property Type : APT Land (Area/Rate) : S.F / P.S.F
Tenure : FH Price : $ 730,800

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35, AMBER RD, 08-14
Project Name : THE SEA VIEW Postal (Old/New) : 1543/439945
Contract Date : 09/11/2007 Floor (Area/Rate) : 1647 S.F / $ 1438 P.S.F
Property Type : APT Land (Area/Rate) : S.F / P.S.F
Tenure : FH Price : $ 2,368,386

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35, AMBER RD, 08-14
Project Name : THE SEA VIEW Postal (Old/New) : 1543/439945
Contract Date : 09/11/2007 Floor (Area/Rate) : 1647 S.F / $ 1438 P.S.F
Property Type : APT Land (Area/Rate) : S.F / P.S.F
Tenure : FH Price : $ 2,368,386

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39, AMBER RD, 10-26
Project Name : THE SEA VIEW Postal (Old/New) : 1543/439947
Contract Date : 07/11/2007 Floor (Area/Rate) : 1647 S.F / $ 743 P.S.F
Property Type : APT Land (Area/Rate) : S.F / P.S.F
Tenure : FH Price : $ 1,223,836

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I saw a couple of units hanging their clothes at the balcony. One unit came replete with bamboo poles. The other unit simply flung their wet clothes over the balcony rails - and one of the items left to dry was a bra.

Also saw another unit with a film covering the balcony glass.

I am simply flabbergasted. I hope WL will do something soon. First class resort with third world living habits. Sigh.

I saw a couple of units hanging their clothes at the balcony. One unit came replete with bamboo poles. The other unit simply flung their wet clothes over the balcony rails - and one of the items left to dry was a bra.

Also saw another unit with a film covering the balcony glass.

I am simply flabbergasted. I hope WL will do something soon. First class resort with third world living habits. Sigh.



Totally agree with your view, I feel very disappointed whenever I drive back to Seaview, with colourful clothes hanging at the balcony, different colours of window film, it really bring down the whole image of the Seaview, worse than those condos without balcony. Beside that, till today, still have hard time finding a single dustbin in the whole compound, not even at the lift lobby, it is really unbelievable, this will definitely encouraging littering. Hope WL can do something on these 2 things asap.

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u234/aaronchong/IMG_0039.jpg:banana::banana:

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u234/aaronchong/IMG_0037.jpg:banana::banana:

Oh yes, congrat to Aaron with the breeze and view and good profit too
happy staying then

Congrats to Aaron on the beautiful views from his unit!

Aaron, how is the traffic noise on that side of the estate?

When is SilverSea coming?

Aaron, how is the traffic noise on that side of the estate?

The noise level is not that bad for my 21st floor. Love laguna visit my unit before she should able to advice better as 3rd party view.

Aaron, congrats on a wonderful unit. At least your seaview will be preserved despite the building of Silverseas.

Btw, has anyone noticed the 2 hanging balcony lamps on the 2nd floor unit of Block 29 (facing visitor waiting area)? When is the management office going to start to enforce the estate "rules"?

I went to Aaron and Propty-Aire’s units (and some others’ as well), both high floor and facing the sea. View is good, but not as great as those along ECP coastal projects along Meyer Road, Cotz, Costa etc (as there is no roof tops from the coastal line) but noise level is much much better and acceptable. Propty-aire’s unit is nosier mainly due to the some demolition work, construction at the Amber side. Of course, Aaron has a Stressless sofa at the balcony and this makes a world of difference especially to a stress free man. :banana::banana::banana:

For trade off, Seaview units with sea view is a better choice with lesser noise. Personally, still like the Pearl Tower of Bayshore Park, the view is uncomparable and no noise.

Perhaps, let Aaron / Propty-Aire has a house warming and share with us their priceless view.

The weekend activities were much quieter, in term of pool usage and housing agents. For Ph 1, the most, only 30% or less have moved in.

For Pursa’s point, in fact, two weekends ago, I got David (the manager from MA) to stop one unit from installing balcony light, (really STOP work immediately) the owner has to patch back the balcony ceiling as well. I have also highlighted to David the unit that Pursa mentioned.

I have given the following feedback to the Management Office
- use of window film
- frosting the balcony glass panel
- $500,000 worth of art work to the club house
http://business.asiaone.com/Business/Story/A1Story20080421-61059.html
- convex mirror to the carpark exit to East Coast Road
- take down the advertisement pasted on the windows/door
- laundry at the balcony

The designer bins are in, but some defects, (the lids cannot close on its own, very hard to open the lids) also reported, but look like the request for more bins is not going to be accepted. This weekend, I will mark out what are the locations need to have bin, and have one of u to get back to WL.

I think I am now blacklisted by them already.

Propty-aire is suggesting we have a collection petition on certain issues, like window to the yard. Can Propty-aire add on this point.

cheers!

My girl was laughing at me for the postings I made.
Look like the $500,000 art work refers to the chilli in front of the club house and big red pepper at the lap pool.

Lovelaguna, Aaron, I think u will be the few enjoying the great life in the seaview. Of course including those bought at early stage for own use in seaview. But for those who bought on subsale at 1400 SGD, I think the risk is really high. Last night,the big drop of US stock mkt really scare me. Thank god I did not bid too high to buy the seaview, though I still love to be neighbour of lovelaguna and aaron, u must be very nice neighbours

FYI, Blk 35 #09-14 was sold for $ 1,450 psf on early June. :banana:

Blk 35 #17-14 was tenanted out at 7.3K without furnished and Blk 35 #17-17 was at 8K with fully furnished .

Blk 33 #19-13 was tenant out for 8K without furnished.

I don't thing seller will sell too low at the current market. :nuts:

I keep hearing from agents that the market may be slow but units at The Seaview are in high demand/interest both by buyers and renters. The rents people are getting are pretty incredible given the worries in the economy.

My agent friend who just have dinner with Far East Management term last week inform me that Sliver Sea will be selling @ min $ 1,700psf ( is Confirm ). Any thing lower than that they will wait for the property market to recover.

Far East still have few units of Icon which they are selling @ min $ 2,200psf.

My agent friend who just have dinner with Far East Management term last week inform me that Sliver Sea will be selling @ min $ 1,700psf ( is Confirm ). Any thing lower than that they will wait for the property market to recover.

Far East still have few units of Icon which they are selling @ min $ 2,200psf.

Yups sometime it make me wonder how they can sell so high while the subsale prices so low, and i am not even talking about very low floors.

i was on the 21st floor on on of the stack facing the pool. A 4 room unit.

The ROOMS are really small!!! at most 1 single bed for the small rooms and 1 Queen bed in the master and there are no space for anything else i think a table in the room would be a huge challenge.

Heard that many people complain the room and room door size. The door wheel chair cannot go in coz smaller than standard. So people with old folks on wheelchair have a problem.

Went to the penthouse facing the sea. WOW the size is much better and room size more standard.. but OMG... will cost almst $3M a unit.

Also looking down 23 floors from the balcony is quite scary.

But much said I like the seaview surrounding :) and plot ratio. Amber and esta are more cramp. Not sure abt the room size though. But the standard room size in the 4 roomer do put me off.

The ROOMS are really small!!! at most 1 single bed for the small rooms and 1 Queen bed in the master and there are no space for anything else i think a table in the room would be a huge challenge.

Mine is a 1416 unit. I put in a king size bed and 2 more mattresses. cramp 2 of us and 3 kids into the room at night. I must admit walking space is very limited but feel that a bedroom is a bedroom for sleeping. Most of the bonding activities are in the balcony and LR.
I managed to customise a table on the bay window on each of the 3 bedrooms.

anyway think out of the box. be creative. there are constraints everywhere.

Agree on creativity - in a 4 bedder 1647 sq ft, there is ample space for two
super single beds, a small study table and a 5ft wardrobe to fit in the Junior master.

If one needs lavish size bedrooms, then its either a penthouse (only the Master room is big) or a landed property.

It is a matter of adjustments and adaptation. I made lots of changes after much of nightmare, inconvenience and $ to adjust to the size of The SeaView. Compare Singapore and HK, we are still living in wonderland.

1. Master Bedroom : still stay with my Euro King bed with a TV console, but downsize the two bedside tables. Full suite from Acanthus.
2. Two smaller rooms : change from Super Single Long bed with 16” mattress to custom made bedframe mount over bay windows (thus giving storage space under the bed) and 6” natural latex mattress. With good size table and chairs, and book shelf on wall, from Acanthus. The rooms are now comfortably well space and cozy.
3. Junior suite, custom made cupboard, with Super Single Long bed, a very much smaller table and chair and a TV. Bed, table, chair also from Acanthus. I have made sufficient room for wheelchair for this room.

I am extremely pleased with Acanthus for their superb services. Eg, the boss came down to take measurement and allowed us to change after they had made the items. For the tables, after using, we found that there was limited leg room, they changed two brand new one, custom-made without additional charges.

I am always happy and contented; spend much time in the pool and walking in the estate. There is no such new project could give me the luxury of space, pools, quality, and life style. My family has also changed the way we live, balcony with the four season view, has become our favorite place to read, to rest, to interact with guests, having breakfast, and of course to see men and women in the pool. (very interesting to observe people in fact, sometimes really giving me good laugh…)

I visited a few projects recently, all come with bay windows, big terrace / balcony with planters, and small rooms, smaller living / dinning room, and tiny kitchen. Unless I go for 2400 sq ft for 4 bedders, then I would hv for the type of space in the wish list. If u cost in all these, u will find the price of The Seaview @$1400 psf for good facing units and quality is still a steal.

See the way Aaron dishing out the up-to-date prices, he is now MUCH RICHER and so is everyone of us. Property is an asset class with long cycle, timing and location are ultra critical, but who can have a good reading? Which analyst told us in 2004/05 or even early 2006 to move into property? So make the decision base on your capacity and assessment.

PoorMan : there are many nice people here like Aaron, Prusa, Proprty-Aire, Ignite, many many, if possible, come and be part of us. The penthouses are still waiting for u. Don’t need to go Newton and stay in the concrete jungle. Air is better at the East. Aaron was so sweet that bot me dessert on the day of moving, and I carried cherry and tomoto to his house as well. And many of u have visited me, gave me cake, bot me lobster porride...perfume...and also many unsolicited neighbours as well visited me.....wonderfull isn't it?

I just got my keys recently. Excited and happy to hear that we have some great neighbours in this development. Totally agree on the need to be creative with space comments. That's why I am really keen to know what people are doing to get more space.

Anybody has any idea how to get more space from the existing wardrobe? Also, since we cannot change the lights at the balcony, it is too dark to read or eat in the night in that space. How did you guys manage? btw, was wondering where and how we wash cars in the car park? Is there an allocated area where residents can wash their cars?

I just got my keys recently. Excited and happy to hear that we have some great neighbours in this development. Totally agree on the need to be creative with space comments. That's why I am really keen to know what people are doing to get more space.

Anybody has any idea how to get more space from the existing wardrobe? Also, since we cannot change the lights at the balcony, it is too dark to read or eat in the night in that space. How did you guys manage? btw, was wondering where and how we wash cars in the car park? Is there an allocated area where residents can wash their cars?

You will not like the answer on the wardrobes - replace the doors from accordian style to sliding (requires building a new frame around existing unit - can be done) or tear them out and do your own style to fit your needs. I did both ways - depending on the room. Painful, expensive but had to be done!:bash: As for balcony, use candles (lots of them)...works for us, adds a bit of posh romance...or turn on your LV lamps. With the small interior space, the light will reflect over to the balcony.

Type E unit owners - Utility Yard casement windows. FYI...my contractor spoke to the sub-contractor whoprovided the Seaview windows. The sub has absolutely zero interest in supporting this supplemental project because - the windows were made in China so making the new windows will be a logistics nightmare; the number of windows required depends on the Type E unit owners decision so the sub is not able to plan nor can financially justify ordering a small run that would likely be required. Therefore, we are on our own.

My contractor will check with some local window manufacturers to see if they can make to the WL specs. I will then get WL to sign off on the final design so that they later cannot claim it is out of spec and must be removed. Argh!!!

Type E unit owners - Utility Yard casement windows. FYI...my contractor spoke to the sub-contractor whoprovided the Seaview windows. The sub has absolutely zero interest in supporting this supplemental project because - the windows were made in China so making the new windows will be a logistics nightmare; the number of windows required depends on the Type E unit owners decision so the sub is not able to plan nor can financially justify ordering a small run that would likely be required. Therefore, we are on our own.

My contractor will check with some local window manufacturers to see if they can make to the WL specs. I will then get WL to sign off on the final design so that they later cannot claim it is out of spec and must be removed. Argh!!!

Count me in if you need to get a better price for your neg.

Count me in if you need to get a better price for your neg.

Will do. If any other Type E owners are interested, please let me know. Misery does love company!

Will do. If any other Type E owners are interested, please let me know. Misery does love company!

I think we have Aaron and Property-aire are also Type E owners.

Seems like the URA finally woke up to the bay window/GFA games by developers. http://www.ura.gov.sg/circulars/text/dc08-17.pdf.

Seems like the URA finally woke up to the bay window/GFA games by developers. http://www.ura.gov.sg/circulars/text/dc08-17.pdf.

This will in turn lead to larger or more balconies within the unit.....

I read this twice and still fail to understand how is the home buyer benefit from this change in term of better usability of space. Currently, the developers may charge lower psf to the buyer due to the 10% bouns. By removing it, we have yet to see the impact.

Look at the recent new projects, like Dakota, Clover, which one does not have big balcony / planter...even there's such sizeable balcony / planter at the backyards as well. With all these, the selling price is then be lower. Let's see.....

I read this twice and still fail to understand how is the home buyer benefit from this change in term of better usability of space. Currently, the developers may charge lower psf to the buyer due to the 10% bouns. By removing it, we have yet to see the impact.

Look at the recent new projects, like Dakota, Clover, which one does not have big balcony / planter...even there's such sizeable balcony / planter at the backyards as well. With all these, the selling price is then be lower. Let's see.....

We need to feedback to URA to get them to rewrite it on simplify english. :bash::bash::bash: for Love Laguna to understand better.

:lol::lol::lol: Happy buying !!!

Today, bay windows and planter boxes, which often make up as condo’s saleable area, had been exempted from GFA calculations. But in providing them to buyers, developers had been charging full price to buyers for them.

This exemption will no longer apply from Oct 7, according to a circular issued by the Urban Redevelopment Authority (URA) on Monday.

Hope this is help....:nuts::nuts::nuts:

I read this twice and still fail to understand how is the home buyer benefit from this change in term of better usability of space. Currently, the developers may charge lower psf to the buyer due to the 10% bouns. By removing it, we have yet to see the impact.

Look at the recent new projects, like Dakota, Clover, which one does not have big balcony / planter...even there's such sizeable balcony / planter at the backyards as well. With all these, the selling price is then be lower. Let's see.....

There is little or no direct benefit to home buyers. Previously, when exempted, it means that developers can declare a lower GFA of the total devpt and get away with paying less govt levies which are computed based on GFA. But when they sell the devpt, they very often include such planter boxes and bay windows as saleable floor space hence charging home buyers more. In other words, they used to pay less and charge more (what's new....:ohno:). Now they pay more and charge more lor...whatever the case, they will probably pass it onto end-consumer.

How it benefits home buyers is murky. With this ruling in place, it means that for NEW developments, the bay windows and planter boxes are construed as GFA. On a prima facie interpretation, if home buyers choose to convert bay windows and planter boxes into some semblance of liveable floor space now, they will no longer be 'contravening' rules of increasing GFA in the development since their effective GFA stays the same. HOWEVER, right now since there is no clear cut approvals or guidelines that allow owners to carry out such alterations, it is still very grey as to whether this 'benefit' can be enjoyed.:bash:

If you read carefully, take note that existing devpts which was approved based on such exemptions will still fall under the old guidelines so existing owners will NOT be able to partake of the 'perceived benefits'.

There is little or no direct benefit to home buyers. Previously, when exempted, it means that developers can declare a lower GFA of the total devpt and get away with paying less govt levies which are computed based on GFA. But when they sell the devpt, they very often include such planter boxes and bay windows as saleable floor space hence charging home buyers more. In other words, they used to pay less and charge more (what's new....:ohno:). Now they pay more and charge more lor...whatever the case, they will probably pass it onto end-consumer.

How it benefits home buyers is murky. With this ruling in place, it means that for NEW developments, the bay windows and planter boxes are construed as GFA. On a prima facie interpretation, if home buyers choose to convert bay windows and planter boxes into some semblance of liveable floor space now, they will no longer be 'contravening' rules of increasing GFA in the development since their effective GFA stays the same. HOWEVER, right now since there is no clear cut approvals or guidelines that allow owners to carry out such alterations, it is still very grey as to whether this 'benefit' can be enjoyed.:bash:

If you read carefully, take note that existing devpts which was approved based on such exemptions will still fall under the old guidelines so existing owners will NOT be able to partake of the 'perceived benefits'.

Going forward, I think we will see a lot fewer bay windows, etc in new project designs. My original point was that the URA made this change under the impression that this would spur on better designed apartments for a more cosmopolitan "world-class" city look. Developers used the change to "charge more but pay less" and the URA finally figured it out. Was the original URA goal met? I don't think so. The bay windows designed into the projects seem an after thought (no meaning or context) and the planters were completely useless. Certainly from the owner/occupant view, the original bay window ruling has made living in such small spaces that much more of a challenge with no corresponding benefit.

Aaron : as u know, Love Laguna has a very low IQ to understand such complex issue.....

Proper-T : I am trying to read the message of the para 8 whereby "Planter boxes that are provided within the balcony can be treated as part of the 10% bonus balcony GFA.". and in the same para of "URA will leave it to the developers and building owners to decide if they wish to continue to provide bay windows and planter boxes for their residential developments so long as these building features are counted as GFA"

Consequently, there will be much bigger planter box at the balcony which is the 10% bonus balcony GFA. Also, balcony to all the bedrooms with planter box instead of bay windows.....

Under para 5 of URA's announcement, it mentioned : "This defeats the purpose of giving GFA exemptions for the planter boxes to encourage vertical greenery in the first place." and entire para 6.

So at the end of the day, does URA fully address the trigger of changes mentioned under para 5 and 6? or a bigger fee for the developers / consumers to pay? this is why I fail to understand the logic behind....hope that my IQ is not that bad ...:) or I interpreted wrongly? anyone?

Prusa : I don't think the buyers will get bigger rooms......or more space...perhaps bigger planter box at the balcony which cannot be converted for other usage...

Planter boxes and balcony always cheaper to build than actual rooms. Developers will find their way around it somehow. Bigger air-con ledge, balcony, planter boxes sure to hit the stores....

Aaron : as u know, Love Laguna has a very low IQ to understand such complex issue.....

Proper-T : I am trying to read the message of the para 8 whereby "Planter boxes that are provided within the balcony can be treated as part of the 10% bonus balcony GFA.". and in the same para of "URA will leave it to the developers and building owners to decide if they wish to continue to provide bay windows and planter boxes for their residential developments so long as these building features are counted as GFA"

Consequently, there will be much bigger planter box at the balcony which is the 10% bonus balcony GFA. Also, balcony to all the bedrooms with planter box instead of bay windows.....

Under para 5 of URA's announcement, it mentioned : "This defeats the purpose of giving GFA exemptions for the planter boxes to encourage vertical greenery in the first place." and entire para 6.

So at the end of the day, does URA fully address the trigger of changes mentioned under para 5 and 6? or a bigger fee for the developers / consumers to pay? this is why I fail to understand the logic behind....hope that my IQ is not that bad ...:) or I interpreted wrongly? anyone?

To me, allowing the planter box within the 10% balcony bonus is, to put it crudely, 'LPPL' or in other words, useless, now that planter boxes are construed as GFA. Previously, with the exemption, balconies could be made much larger than the 10% bonus by including in planter boxes. Developers use this as a gimmick to sell super large balconies. The benefit to home owners is in fact quite tangible as effectively, this could be used as 'real' floor space just by covering up the boxes.

Now that planter boxes are not exempt, developers are restricted to a strict additional 10% for balconies even with planter boxes. So in effect, unless planter boxes help developers to save materials cost (less cement???) in the balcony, they may as well not include it.

Net effect...new developments will probably not have planterboxes or bay windows anymore.....

i think this discussion is pertinent, and perhaps rather painful to the owners of the development. Although no one has directly addressed it (from a quick read of the various posts), it appears that Wheelock certainly capitalized on the loophole and got away with a huge amount of bay windows per unit. has anyone actually calculated the total amount (and cost to buyer) attributed to the bay wondows in each unit? Coupled with the large balcony, i suspect Wheelock had done their sums when pricing the project.

1whosold, what at what price?

anyway, next time enbloc got headache. strata area n floor area dont match.

perhaps the effect of the changes would be that developers will no longer include bay windows in the units as they are generally not appreciated by buyer. I don't think this change will create a huge dent in their revenues, just that buyers can now avoid paying unecessary amounts for 'dead space' and not have to put up with unecessary seating areas, book shelves and the likes.

good point!
i actually sold about 50K below market because i wanted a quick exit and was happy with the gains.

Can we, therefore, sue Wheelock for overcharging us for the area encompassing the bay windows? That area is only good for sitting on, or placing picture frames and knick knacks.

er, don't think you can sue them, what they did was totally within the law (thank goodness the gvt has since done something about that!). layout was also reflected in the showflat...

Is it possible to put in a King size Divan bed in Master, and Queen size divan bed in room 2 of Type D, 4-bedder? Without having problems opening the wardrobe doors? I don't plan on putting anything else in...

Many thanks.

has anybody noticed that #04-23 , in the block nearest to the gate next to rose garden has tinted/frosted its windows and balcony? how is that allowed?

david lai is not allowing a shoe case outside the door, and how come this was allowed?

Type E owners - Utility window. Quick update as my contractor has found a window manufacturer who will make to the required spec for $1,600! Have not had a chance to see final design (which I will make WL sign off on before I install) nor quality. However, the price can likely go down if there are other interested owners who would sign up with the same supplier. Let me know.

Type E owners - Utility window. Quick update as my contractor has found a window manufacturer who will make to the required spec for $1,600! Have not had a chance to see final design (which I will make WL sign off on before I install) nor quality. However, the price can likely go down if there are other interested owners who would sign up with the same supplier. Let me know.

Hi, Prusa. I am a new member in the forum. thanks for the update. I want to know if it is compulsory to put a window in the unitility are? Can we have an option of putting white grills as it maintains the cross ventilation.

Dear Neighbours,

We have recently moved into Sea View from a relatively larger flat. We have a lot of good quality furniture which we are not able to accomodate in our type E unit hence we wanted to have a garage sale. These are the things we are looking to sell:

a. An ethnic wooden bookshelf
b. 2 matching wooden bed side tables
c. some artwork/paintings - indonesian, thai etc.
d. and some other stuff..

All good quality and excellent condition. Feel free to contact me if you are interested.....h/p 97330103.

Is it possible to put in a King size Divan bed in Master, and Queen size divan bed in room 2 of Type D, 4-bedder? Without having problems opening the wardrobe doors? I don't plan on putting anything else in...

Many thanks.

STANDARD KING at master bedroom - ok, but may only one bedside table next to the walkin wardrobe.

Queen at the bedroom 2 : should be ok with the bed next to baywindow, and no bedside table....it is ok if mount over baywindow

has anybody noticed that #04-23 , in the block nearest to the gate next to rose garden has tinted/frosted its windows and balcony? how is that allowed?

david lai is not allowing a shoe case outside the door, and how come this was allowed?

we have written officially to WL on the issue of lights and fan at the balcony and use of films to the windows. The issue on window film is still a hot topic that we are discussing with WL. David first mentioned that only the approved window film is out, then he can ask the unit owners (many of them) to change the film. But WL has disapproved all form of window films (unofficially at this moment) and we have yet to find out the reason.

For shoe case, well, perhaps Prusa wants to share his experience which all of us can have a laugh at it. I just have a simple shoe rack, movable to the space next to the door..normal days, I just put at the private area..solve my problem

Hi, Prusa. I am a new member in the forum. thanks for the update. I want to know if it is compulsory to put a window in the unitility are? Can we have an option of putting white grills as it maintains the cross ventilation.

it is not compulsory for the window at the yard as far as I know.

For the grilles : a very firm answer of NO to the parapet. For the unit, so far, the answer is NOT Sure

Dear Neighbours,

We have recently moved into Sea View from a relatively larger flat. We have a lot of good quality furniture which we are not able to accomodate in our type E unit hence we wanted to have a garage sale. These are the things we are looking to sell:

a. An ethnic wooden bookshelf
b. 2 matching wooden bed side tables
c. some artwork/paintings - indonesian, thai etc.
d. and some other stuff..

All good quality and excellent condition. Feel free to contact me if you are interested.....h/p 97330103.

Welcome!

prusa: would be interested in it too.. though the price seems too high

For shoe case, well, perhaps Prusa wants to share his experience which all of us can have a laugh at it. I just have a simple shoe rack, movable to the space next to the door..normal days, I just put at the private area..solve my problem

According to strict reading of estate rules, nothing can be kept outside our front doors in common area. This includes a shoe rack (or anything else - shoes, plant pots, etc). This rule does not include the marble slab at front door which is part of each unit's area. However, even at this area - where you can place a narrow, high shoe rack - nothing can be "attached" to the common walls of the building. "Attached" in the view of the managing agent also includes using silicone to seal the gap between a floor to ceiling shoe rack and the wall to prevent moisture, etc., from settling behind the rack and keeping it in place. This is my situation. Our estate managing agent and even WL's on-site customer service people acknowledge that after the 1 year hand-over period, the elected MCST will undoubtly change this rule in some manner to allow each resident to make practical use of the small space at their front door. In the meantime, expect on-going discussions with DTZ and WL.

prusa: would be interested in it too.. though the price seems too high

Understand. I need to meet up with my contractor, confirm the quality, talk price reduction and get WL to sign off on the vendor. I'll keep you informed. Thanks.

Anyone knows if there is any bicycle racks in Seaview? Btw, where is a good place to buy reasonable priced outdooor furniture to put in the balcony? :)

Anyone knows if there is any bicycle racks in Seaview? Btw, where is a good place to buy reasonable priced outdooor furniture to put in the balcony? :)

Lots of places around and depends on if you want wood or metal type. But need to check on quality of material used...the sea climate which we are directly exposed to daily is a killer on outdoor furniture.

Quick call to all E-type owners on Utility Window installation. I'm reviewing the material quality this evening and will report back to this site with my impressions. My contractor indicated that with more business he (and the window manufacturer) can lower the price by several hundred dollars so price could drop to $1,200. However, I need a pretty good idea on how many owners are going to take up this offer. Please PM with your interest.

With the design constraints WL has placed on us, I'm not sure we can get something for much less. If anyone has alternative contractors to consider please post. Thanks.

We have created a mailbox for all The SeaView owners to drop comments/feedbacks to the MA/WL


TheSeaview@ymail.com

mailbox is manned by Prusa, Propty-aire and LL...and the MA..
We hope to collect the common concerns we have and collectively follow up with WL

Update I just got from WL

1. Bike rack will be installed by end 9/2008
2. there are 7 owners applied for windows at the yard, WL will ask them on hold, and work with us (Prusa?) for a single contractor for better pricing and control
3. owners can propose window grilles design to WL for approval. if ur interested, pl PM me

There are other issues involved we are still working very hard to have them done or answered by WL, including the window films

Are you saying window grills are allowed (subject to approval) for all windows, or is that just for the yard?

Are you saying window grills are allowed (subject to approval) for all windows, or is that just for the yard?

Only for utility window.

Update I just got from WL

1. Bike rack will be installed by end 9/2008
2. there are 7 owners applied for windows at the yard, WL will ask them on hold, and work with us (Prusa?) for a single contractor for better pricing and control
3. owners can propose window grilles design to WL for approval. if ur interested, pl PM me

There are other issues involved we are still working very hard to have them done or answered by WL, including the window films

Will WL give us names of SP owners moving forward with yard windows so that we can get uniform look and reduce cost?

We need to request WL to allow unit owners the following options :

Option 1 : install both windows and grills to the yard area

Option 2 : install windows only to the yard area

Option 3 : install grills only to the yard area

Are you saying window grills are allowed (subject to approval) for all windows, or is that just for the yard?


U hv a good point, but I doubt for all windows as windows come with the unit have child-lock...we will check with WL....

drop us a mail at

Theseaview@ymail.com

as we do not wish to publish too much details at a public forum, we want to maintain a close group communication

thanks

We need to request WL to allow unit owners the following options :

Option 1 : install both windows and grills to the yard area

Option 2 : install windows only to the yard area

Option 3 : install grills only to the yard area

WL just confirmed either Option 1 or 2 but not 3

i dont understand their logic.... windows only wud be ok,
but if they are ok with window+grill, why not grill only! strange...
anyway, atleast some decision is made

i dont understand their logic.... windows only wud be ok,
but if they are ok with window+grill, why not grill only! strange...
anyway, atleast some decision is made
Sorry that I did not convey the rationale given by WL.
WL explained that the grilles will be hidden behind the windows, as such, the exterior look of the building will not be affected.

regards

Yups sometime it make me wonder how they can sell so high while the subsale prices so low, and i am not even talking about very low floors.

Far East always hold units at high price for long term....look at Rafflesia and Bishan 8...10 yrs later still got units.

ALL it took was one look at the big balcony spanning the living room and the master bedroom, and the deal was sealed for Mrs Jean Hong.
The 47-year-old company director bought a three-bedroom unit for close to $1,500 per square foot in the Parc Centennial condominium in Kampong Java Road three months ago and is still gushing about the large balcony to her friends.
She is planning to rent it out and feels expatriates will appreciate the balcony space.
‘There is enough space to put some chairs and a small table in the balcony, so that the tenant is able to have a drink or read there without cluttering the place unnecessarily,’ she said.
Parc Centennial is among a number of new condos that are bucking the trend of developments from the 1990s, which had balconies that were tiny corners with just standing space or irregular-shaped ones that nobody used.
In contrast, some of the new private housing projects today have large balconies that even extend to the master bedroom or outside the lift.
Projects with generous balconies include completed ones like Residences@Evelyn in Evelyn Road as well as those nearing completion such as Parc Centennial, JIA at 65 Wilkie Road, Lucida in Suffolk Road, Parc Mackenzie in Mackenzie Road and Cliveden at Grange in Grange Road.
Developers say that buyers prefer units with large balconies because the open space lets in natural light and ventilation and can be used as an alfresco dining area or just an outdoor area to relax in.
EL Development, the developer behind Parc Centennial, designed its units with large balconies because of the expansive views offered at the site: There are no tall buildings nearby so residents have good views of the surrounding greenery.
The balcony also serves to screen off the afternoon sun for the west-facing units.
Similarly for developer City Developments Limited (CDL), the decision to incorporate balconies into the projects depends on their location.
‘Typically, buyers would like a balcony where there are good views of the surroundings, such as the lush greenery which residents of Shelford Suites or Cliveden at Grange can enjoy, or if there are waterfront views that can be appreciated, which is the case with One Shenton and The Oceanfront@Sentosa Cove,’ said Mr Chia Ngiang Hong, group general manager of CDL.
Larger balconies are also good for homeowners to keep in touch with their surroundings, says developer SDB. Its first local project here, JIA, is only seven storeys high so owners get to enjoy the greenery nearby from their balconies.
The developer also designed the balconies with enough depth to put a coffee table.
‘Enjoying the outdoors from the balcony means being able to have a relaxing cup of tea comfortably seated,’ said Ms Leon Kim Yoke, senior manager of SDB Properties.
The developer has also included ‘fold and slide’ screens at the balconies to provide privacy when required. They double as safety features.
Their two-bedroom units even have the lift opening directly into the balcony.
‘Large balconies are targeted at those who enjoy the outdoors and do not want to be confined to indoor spaces only. Anyone downsizing from a landed property to an apartment would particularly appreciate such features,’ Ms Kim Yoke added.
Mrs Hong, who lives in Serangoon Gardens, agrees.
‘In my house, I can take a walk around my garden or koi pond, but in a condo, you have only your bedrooms and living room to turn to, so having a balcony helps.
‘Even some HDB flats are getting their own balconies too nowadays. With large balconies, I am able to get higher rents for my unit,’ she said.
About 70 to 80 per cent of expatriates opt for large balconies, according to Mr John Koh, 60, associate director of Huttons real estate group.
‘Singaporeans are quite kiasu. Some think it is a waste of space and don’t want to pay for it,’ he said.
Senior executive Kelvin Ho, who bought a flat in Parc Mackenzie, begged to differ.
‘I don’t understand why people don’t want balconies. I like the open air, space, lights, breeze and view. I think it is usable space,’ he said.
It is opportune that buyers like him have secured units that come with large balconies as they may become a thing of the past with the recent announcement by the Urban Redevelopment Authority.
From Oct 7, features such as bay windows, balconcies and planter boxes are no longer exempt from the gross floor area (GFA) calculations.
This means that developers may scale down balcony sizes since they will be charged for the area, unlike now.
‘I think it’s scary if the sizes of balconies shrink in future as Singapore is going to be one large concrete jungle,’ said Mrs Hong.
‘Personally, I do not mind paying for the space if the design is nice and it is functional.’

One Shenton has good waterfront views ? Chia still couldn't face the fact or self vested ? :lol:

‘Typically, buyers would like a balcony where there are good views of the surroundings, such as the lush greenery which residents of Shelford Suites or Cliveden at Grange can enjoy, or if there are waterfront views that can be appreciated, which is the case with One Shenton and The Oceanfront@Sentosa Cove,’ said Mr Chia Ngiang Hong, group general manager of CDL.

Latest transaction from URA website..... one unit sold for a staggering $1550 psf. Imagine this being done at the height of the credit crisis. Prices holding up very well.

#03-11 1410sqft $1277psf $1,800,000 18Jul08
#03-22 1410sqft $1550psf $2,185,500 17Jul08
#05-15 1410sqft $1050psf $1,480,000 7Jul08
#14-08 1216sqft $1260psf $1,532,160 30Jun08
#20-20 560sqft $1289psf $716,800 26 Jun08
#03-15 1410sqft $1028psf $1,450,000 17Jun08
#09-14 1647sqft $1450psf $2,388,150 13Jun08
#12-21 1216sqft $1065psf $1,295,040 12Jun08
#08-15 1410sqft $1100psf $1,551,000 10Jun08

#03-22 - with very good pool view

Is it true that current rental for the smallest Seaview unit is $1,700/mth - 1bedroom?

Is it true that current rental for the smallest Seaview unit is $1,700/mth - 1bedroom?

$3,000 to $3,500 depends on levels, views etc.

http://www.wheelockproperties.com.sg/residential/portfolio/seaview/pics/seaview-siteplan.jpg


#03-11 1410sqft $1277psf $1,800,000 18Jul08
#03-22 1410sqft $1550psf $2,185,500 17Jul08
#05-15 1410sqft $1050psf $1,480,000 7Jul08
#14-08 1216sqft $1260psf $1,532,160 30Jun08
#20-20 560sqft $1289psf $716,800 26Jun08
#03-15 1410sqft $1028psf $1,450,000 17Jun08
#09-14 1647sqft $1450psf $2,388,150 13Jun08
#12-21 1216sqft $1065psf $1,295,040 12Jun08
#08-15 1410sqft $1100psf $1,551,000 10Jun08


love laguna: Thanx for sharing the recent sales transactions. From the analysis with the site plan, instead those units facing the pools (highlighted in green) are selling at a good premium.

$3,000 to $3,500 depends on levels, views etc.

One unit, mid floor, studio, pool facing, unfurnished, done at $2900 or $5 psf
good price

T0=wallstreat;
just copy and paste from SingaporeCondo....
hv yet to see the price of sea facing units, should be better I think

T0=wallstreat;
just copy and paste from SingaporeCondo....
hv yet to see the price of sea facing units, should be better I think

I did a quick calculation based on the same set of data, the average premium for the pool-facing units is about 30% higher than non pool-facing units.

Will be interesting to know what are the premiums achievable by the sea-facing units :)

Dear Fellow neighbours
Few of us have been working rather hard to better our homes, I would like to update all the official reply:banana::banana: from WL dated 1 Aug on some of our suggestions. We are still working on the rest:), please let us know if u hv any contributions. Drop mail to TheSeaview@ymail.com In brackets are my comments

1. all external door handlers at ground floor, (fire exits and CD shelters) have been removed. The damaged door closures been fixed. :banana:
2. Window grille alone at the yard is not allowed. :ohno:Approved only either casement window, or casement window and grille, ie a set with grille installed behind the casement window. This is to maintain a uniform building façade.
3. Owner is to provide their own weather strips to the bathroom shower screen.:ohno: (this cost $15 per piece at the DIY shop at the basement of PP. We installed, and solved the problem of water splashing through the gap at the bottom of the shower screen. One tip, when u want to paste the weather strips, make sure the portion of shower screen is very very dry. My husband used a hair dryer to solve the problem of non-sticking)
4. Tables and chairs are now provided at the basket ball and tennis courts.
5. Replacement trees will be completed within Aug. Tree’s canoples (? Not sure what is this) will be provided on the pool desk in due course.
6. bike rack will be installed in the basement carpark in due course.
7. Request for window film is under review.:banana::nuts:
8. Child lock will be installed to those second floor service yard casement window by WL.:banana::banana: (good for me lah)
9. Roof covering to all blocks is being reviewed.
10. faulty light will be rectified
11. bare areas will be covered with appropriate groundcovers:evil:
12. benches are provided along footpath at strategic locations
13. replanting works at the exit / entrance to PP will be carried out
14. Rectification work is undergoing at the carpark:banana:
15. colour of arrows sign on the floor of basement carpark is under review (BTW, the directional signage at the basement has been greatly improved)
16. additional bumps (I think there will be four more) at basement will be provided (sorry to car owners, this is needed for safety as I saw one sport car speeding at basement, there are too many great sport cars there)
17. car washing lots have been designated. Residents will be informed soon. (this is to prevent soapy water all over. For safety reason)
18. WL explained the balcony light is designed as such is to avoid long term light pollution for a calm living environment.
19. Robe hooks will be provided in the female and male changing room for both gym and pool users.
20. Water dispenser will be provided to the gym in due course
21. adjustments to the lighting level in the mahjong room and pool table have been carried out. (BTW, I am looking for mahjong kaki, I am a beginner, willing to pay reasonable tuition fee:dunno:)
22. pool score board will be provided in due course
23. necessary work to the doors, windows and small opening on the upper level at the Club House will be carried out.
24. Comments on the closing mechanism of the waste bin lid cover is already receiving attention
25. consumption of food is not allowed within 2m of the pool perimeters :ohno: (this is interesting)
26. all waste bins are permanently anchored on the ground (this is a one-legged waste bin)
27. Each unit is entitled to one car parking lot. Allocation of additional carpark lots will be reviewed when more residents move in
28. request for re-cycle bin is under review


THANK YOU TO WL
I also received some verbal unofficial confirmation to our requests, like waste bin at the letter box etc, As these are unofficial, I will not post them here.

Love Laguna,

Thanks for the update.:applause: All positive except for the yard area where grilles would be more practical. WL is more concerned about the yard beauty although clothes continue to hang in the balcony area of many units!! So much for the facade:?

Love Laguna,

Thanks for the update.:applause: All positive except for the yard area where grilles would be more practical. WL is more concerned about the yard beauty although clothes continue to hang in the balcony area of many units!! So much for the facade:?

Agreed on that issue. I'm sure there are many residents who prefer only
grilles in the yard.

The only option would be to wait a couple of months more till we residents take over from developer and then make some practical decisions.

Has anyone installed the Utility Yard window? If so, please post pics and cost or perhaps allow a viewing. Mine is delayed as vendor waiting for parts to be imported. Thanks.

Has anyone installed the Utility Yard window? If so, please post pics and cost or perhaps allow a viewing. Mine is delayed as vendor waiting for parts to be imported. Thanks.

U can arrange the contractor who provides the window grille. They do both window and grilles and according to the MA, there are few units use this contractor. Their job is good

U can come down to see my yard grille..it is nice

#1X-XX 1,216 sqft $1,350 psf $ 1,642,000 14 Aug 08

#1X-XX 560 sqft $1,533 psf $ 808,000 14 Aug 08

:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:

#1X-XX 1,216 sqft $1,350 psf $ 1,642,000 14 Aug 08

#1X-XX 560 sqft $1,533 psf $ 808,000 14 Aug 08

:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:

Congratulations to all owners of Seaview! :)

The good news does not apply to all owners of The Seaview as the disparity of prices between good units (like the one owned by Aaron) and poor facing units, is as much as 50%-55%. There are units only asking for $1000 psf now. So only Aaron is HAPPY and dance like the banana....haha

The silversea will launch this Friday, range is 1300 to 1700 SGD/sf, that is interesting

Yep...saw the agents/sales meeting going on at the show flat last night. Am surprised at the pricing range given the developer's prior strong words on sticking with a $1800/sq ft. floor. Also, considering you can already buy a already built full sea view apartment at The Seaview between $1,300 - 1,500 it doesn't make a lot of sense for Sliversea to be priced in the same range. If any "early birds" get an invite please post pics for the rest of us.

Yep...saw the agents/sales meeting going on at the show flat last night. Am surprised at the pricing range given the developer's prior strong words on sticking with a $1800/sq ft. floor. Also, considering you can already buy a already built full sea view apartment at The Seaview between $1,300 - 1,500 it doesn't make a lot of sense for Sliversea to be priced in the same range. If any "early birds" get an invite please post pics for the rest of us.

Was told by an agent that 1300psf to 1700psf is for low floors up till 14th floor. 15th level onwards developer planning to release at 2K psf. Thats the info i have.

Was told by an agent that 1300psf to 1700psf is for low floors up till 14th floor. 15th level onwards developer planning to release at 2K psf. Thats the info i have.

yes, Propty-aire is right, only Tower 4 up to 14th floor be released with entrace price $1,320...not sure of discount....some goodies....but not significant

Direct perview starts tomorrow.....

Also, considering you can already buy a already built full sea view apartment at The Seaview between $1,300 - 1,500 it doesn't make a lot of sense for Sliversea to be priced in the same range.

after Silversea is up, The Seaview still got sea view meh???

I also thought so ...... similar repeated episode as the Bayxxxxx blocked by Costaxxxxx at Upper East Coast

after Silversea is up, The Seaview still got sea view meh???

I also thought so ...... similar repeated episode as the Bayxxxxx blocked by Costaxxxxx at Upper East Coast

Silversea should be at least the same height as Cote DAzur. FEO will maximise seaview for all their Silversea units.

Partial seaview still possible between the Silversea blocks if they are NOT angled to maximise views.

From earlier postings - I believe around page 15 onward - there was a layout for SS. If this remains valid then the height will be the same as SeaView and most of our estate blocks facing Marine Parade Road will be blocked. 35, 39 and 29 will have partial seaviews remaining. Again, it depends if FE changed the final design since the earlier posting.

I went over to the Silversea today. All I can say is that we have got a lot better for much less money! You cannot compare between WL and FE quality. They are in two different worlds. The SS units puts more space in the bedrooms but smaller LV/DR. Also glass partitions (not ID mind you) for MB bathroom will not appeal to all. Finally, the facilities are very cramped especially the pool. As I asked before, why pay 1400 - 1750 (2 bedroom - 4 bedroom price range) and wait until 2012 TOP when you can buy SV below 1500 with full seaview.

I also thought so ...... similar repeated episode as the Bayxxxxx blocked by Costaxxxxx at Upper East Coast

The developer of Bayxxx that you are referrring to incidentally is the same as The Silverxxx. Maybe, the word of caution should go to potential buyers of this new development: that history will repeat itself...not due to poor view blockage but rather on the general quality of finishing vis-a-vis Wheelock's. Silverxxx is LEASEHOLD whilst Seaview is FREEHOLD and with a much better plot ratio. Aren't these already big PLUS+ when buying a property?

100% agree with prusa, do not buy SS, not worth the money, they have the face to ask 1700 for level 11 unit!!!! eat themselves

100% agree with prusa, do not buy SS, not worth the money, they have the face to ask 1700 for level 11 unit!!!! eat themselves

I believe u hv yet to find one yet...that is why u made such conclusion.

Pursa shall be happy that there are buyer for SS at such a price as his unit at The SeaView will worth more...and so am I...

There is nothing wrong for all these trx at the SS....willing buyer and willing seller...this is the market....so why work up....:banana:

Seaview owners should be thankful to FEO for pricing Silversea value.

Which means that your current apartment is under priced and needs re-valuation.

RIGHT, STILL SEARCHING, ESTA is at 850 level, but for sure not as good as SS, but i see value, but again, 4 bdrm too small. Really want to ask any new FH nowadays has 1800 to 2000 sf 4 bdrm? hate those bay windown, plant area, etc

I believe u hv yet to find one yet...that is why u made such conclusion.

Pursa shall be happy that there are buyer for SS at such a price as his unit at The SeaView will worth more...and so am I...

There is nothing wrong for all these trx at the SS....willing buyer and willing seller...this is the market....so why work up....:banana:

Quite true this is all very good news for SV owners for valuation purposes. I can only imagine that continued turmoil in financial markets will cause a sharper slowdown in take-up rate for new developments.

anyone knows what is the market out now at seaview now? i'm waiting to buy at a good price, but one of the agent told me there is a high floor 4 room going at $1120psf. But i don't like the facing.

anyone came across better units?

RIGHT, STILL SEARCHING, ESTA is at 850 level, but for sure not as good as SS, but i see value, but again, 4 bdrm too small. Really want to ask any new FH nowadays has 1800 to 2000 sf 4 bdrm? hate those bay windown, plant area, etc

I don't know what to do with plant areas or planters. Put plants may breed mozzies and need to water/maintain regularly. The soil may attract insects or crawlies.. :nuts:

Try putting pebble.

I don't know what to do with plant areas or planters. Put plants may breed mozzies and need to water/maintain regularly. The soil may attract insects or crawlies.. :nuts:

anyone knows what is the market out now at seaview now? i'm waiting to buy at a good price, but one of the agent told me there is a high floor 4 room going at $1120psf. But i don't like the facing.

anyone came across better units?


I'm looking for unit at SV as well, any units care to share ?

Try putting pebble.

Thanks, good idea. But what about maintenance? Will grow algae and need to wash pebble by pebble? :nuts:
Minimal care I hope because no maid. :ohno:

Any idea on what the asking rate is at SV for sale?

Any idea on what the asking rate is at SV for sale?
should be 1200-1300psf.

From earlier postings - I believe around page 15 onward - there was a layout for SS. If this remains valid then the height will be the same as SeaView and most of our estate blocks facing Marine Parade Road will be blocked. 35, 39 and 29 will have partial seaviews remaining. Again, it depends if FE changed the final design since the earlier posting.


Let the pics do the talking. I have superimposed SS site plan on the plot. It is indeed a china wall. Matters will be made worse once Amber residences, Aristo and 25 Amber road are completed. SV will be left with none or slivers of seaview. 'Slivers'? 'Seaview'? Silversea? Is that a naughty pun by FE to :poke:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/keenetic/silversea-siteplan1.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/keenetic/silver-sea-4.jpg

Even for SilverSea, to meaningfully have sea view, have to be above 11th floor.

Buy 10th floor is a waste on your premium for higher floor.

Even for SilverSea, to meaningfully have sea view, have to be above 11th floor.

Buy 10th floor is a waste on your premium for higher floor.

Must not forget the noise and exhaust fumes of the traffic from ECP. It will be noiser at higher floor.

kooool...

Gd news for PS, SS, SV and all marine parade HDB/amber/meyer rd property owners...looks like mrt coming yr way. Soil tests have begun.


Quote:
Originally Posted by profkingsfield2004
Saw soil-testing at these locations:

1. Jalan Kg. Siglap - opposite Victoria School
2. Opposite Mandarin Gardens
3. Overhead pedestrian bridge at Chapel Close opposite MP Library
4. Blk 74
5. Overhead pedestrian bridge at Parkway Parade
6. Roundabout in front of The Seaview
7. Opposite Jalan Haji Salam in front of SAF Camp

so Mandarin garden ready to go enbloc if MRT station gonna built beside ?
kooool...

so Mandarin garden ready to go enbloc if MRT station gonna built beside ?

Maybe but the site is kinda huge and will be hard for developers to digest. Bayshore park's enbloc was also put on hold. Better bets may be older devpts along marine parade or amber road but prices are trending up very quickly there. Since one of the soil test was at Kg Siglap area, you can also look at villa Marina (quite cheap still) or other siglap ppties but that's a long term gamble .

FEO would want to maximise the sea view for their units. The Seaview lucky still got peeks of the sea. If FEO follows Costa Del Sol's continuous wave design, The Seaview cannot even see the sea..

How about changing the name of Seaview to SilverSea View :-)

what is the render of the project?

How about changing the name of Seaview to SilverSea View :-)

silversea are all mirrors. maybe can project a visual of the sea on it..

Agent inform me that One mid floor unit sold for $1,400+psf last week. :)

Agent inform me that One mid floor unit sold for $1,400+psf last week. :)

wah..the good times are back. I remember at the peak asking was 1600-1700psf

wah..the good times are back. I remember at the peak asking was 1600-1700psf

The Seafront On Meyer ( Developer Sales ! )

4 bedroom
1) #10-13 2,110sqft $4,008,000 $1,900psf
2) #20-13 2,293sqft $5,388,000 $2,350psf

1600psf - 1700psf is cheap la !!! :bash::bash::bash:

The Seafront On Meyer ( Developer Sales ! )

4 bedroom
1) #10-13 2,110sqft $4,008,000 $1,900psf
2) #20-13 2,293sqft $5,388,000 $2,350psf

1600psf - 1700psf is cheap la !!! :bash::bash::bash:

Huh? Aaron, is this recent transaction or during developer launch?

Huh? Aaron, is this recent transaction or during developer launch?

This are Developer current asking price.

Developer still have few units on hand with NPP, if you need DPS pay 3% more. :lol::lol::lol:

This are Developer current asking price.

Developer still have few units on hand with NPP, if you need DPS pay 3% more. :lol::lol::lol:

10th floor already $1,900psf! :nuts:

This are Developer current asking price.

Developer still have few units on hand with NPP, if you need DPS pay 3% more. :lol::lol::lol:

Thought all sold out for SF except some 2 rooms?

I was told that FE is selling the Rose Garden on a 99 lease base instead of FH

Agent inform me that One mid floor unit sold for $1,400+psf last week. :)


guess prices went up too for TSV. maybe time to sell soon. Miss 07 offer. Sigh

THE proximity of MRT stations to new housing projects has long been a selling point when developments are launched, and it is common to find condominium advertisements displaying ‘nearby’ train stations.

But a couple of developers have taken the sales pitch one step further: by pinpointing the sites of MRT stations which have not been confirmed.

In UOL Developments’ recent advertisement for Meadows@Pierce, a freehold condominium project in Upper Thomson Road expected to be ready around 2012, the developer ran a map showing station sites of the future Thomson Line, which will only be completed in 2018.

These include ‘Springleaf’, ‘Kebun Bahru’, ‘Venus Drive’ and ‘Sin Ming’ stations.

Another major developer, Far East Organization, showed the location of a ‘Marine Parade MRT’ station in an online page for its Silversea condo. The east coast development is expected to attain TOP in 2014.

The station is supposedly part of the Eastern Region Line, which will be completed in 2020.

The Land Transport Authority has not confirmed the alignment of the new rail projects, much less the location of stations. An LTA spokesman dismissed the developers’ information as ‘wild guesses’.

Far East Organization declined to comment; but Ms Claire Cher, spokesman at UOL Group, parent company of UOL Developments, said it got the location and names of the stations from singeo.com – an online map service.

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According to the website, the names and locations of the supposed Thomson Line stations were suggestions from users.

Ms Cher nevertheless stood by the advertisement, saying ‘we’re not misleading, because we put the word ‘planned’ under each of the station site’.

The Consumers Association of Singapore does not quite agree.

Case executive director Seah Seng Choon said that it fell short of the advertising industry’s code of practice, which dictates that all advertisements should be ‘legal, decent, honest and truthful’.

‘In this case, the sites of the MRT stations as indicated in the advertisement are questionable when the LTA has not confirmed them. As such the advertisement could be misleading.’

Other developers interviewed said it is an occasional practice among some players to include hypothetical sites of new stations in their sales materials – although some frown upon it.

Mr Gerry de Silva, head of group corporate affairs at City Developments, said his company does not resort to this.

Ms Sarah Jane Smith, spokesman for SC Global Developments, said her company has never had to do so because ‘all our properties have been very centrally located, so all MRT stations and lines are well established’.

The inclusion of transit stations in property ads is tightly controlled in advanced countries. In Japan for instance, the Real Estate Fair Trade Council says ‘future lines or stations are not allowed to be presented in sales collaterals unless the plan is already announced to the public by the transportation company’.

Even so, the line’s planned start of operation has to be clearly stated. And the walking distance between MRT station and development has to be made known.

Now i'm thinking aloud... whether there will be similar episodes of caving in of land and cracks in properties when they are doing the underground tunnel.. like in paya lebar, bt timah and nicole highway and biopolis .. all had episodes of accident..

A penthouse had just been sold @ 1550psf!

Anyone has any idea what's the cheapest 1654 sqft unit is asking now?

A penthouse had just been sold @ 1550psf!

AMBER ROAD Condominium 1 3,700,000 2,809 Strata 1,317 Jul-09
THE SEA VIEW AMBER ROAD Condominium 1 1,488,000 1,216 Strata 1,223 Jul-09
THE SEA VIEW AMBER ROAD Condominium 1 1,575,000 1,216 Strata 1,295 Jul-09
THE SEA VIEW AMBER ROAD Condominium 1 2,080,000 1,647 Strata 1,263 Jul-09
THE SEA VIEW AMBER ROAD Condominium 1 1,450,000 1,216 Strata 1,192 Jul-09
THE SEA VIEW AMBER ROAD Condominium 1 1,530,000 1,216 Strata 1,258 Jul-09
THE SEA VIEW AMBER ROAD Condominium 1 680,400 560 Strata 1,216 Jun-09
THE SEA VIEW AMBER ROAD Condominium 1 1,800,000 1,647 Strata 1,093 Jun-09
THE SEA VIEW AMBER ROAD Condominium 1 1,811,700 1,647 Strata 1,100 Jun-09
THE SEA VIEW AMBER ROAD Condominium 1 690,000 560 Strata 1,233 Jun-09
THE SEA VIEW AMBER ROAD Condominium 1 1,785,000 1,410 Strata 1,266 Jun-09
THE SEA VIEW AMBER ROAD Condominium 1 728,000 560 Strata 1,301 Jun-09
THE SEA VIEW AMBER ROAD Condominium 1 1,440,960 1,216 Strata 1,185 Jun-09
THE SEA VIEW AMBER ROAD Condominium 1 1,720,000 1,410 Strata 1,220 Jun-09
THE SEA VIEW AMBER ROAD Condominium 1 1,600,000 1,647 Strata 972 May-09
THE SEA VIEW AMBER ROAD Condominium 1 1,551,000 1,410 Strata 1,100 May-09
THE SEA VIEW AMBER ROAD Condominium 1 1,544,320 1,216 Strata 1,270 May-09
THE SEA VIEW AMBER ROAD Condominium 1 1,442,100 1,518 Strata 950 May-09
THE SEA VIEW AMBER ROAD Condominium 1 1,665,000 1,647 Strata 1,011 Apr-09
THE SEA VIEW AMBER ROAD Condominium 1 1,647,000 1,647 Strata 1,000 Apr-09
THE SEA VIEW AMBER ROAD Condominium 1 1,565,000 1,518 Strata 1,031 Apr-09
THE SEA VIEW AMBER ROAD Condominium 1 2,975,000 2,928 Strata 1,016 Apr-09
THE SEA VIEW AMBER ROAD Condominium 1 1,366,200 1,518 Strata 900 Apr-09
THE SEA VIEW AMBER ROAD Condominium 1 1,729,350 1,647 Strata 1,050 Feb-09
THE SEA VIEW AMBER ROAD Condominium 1 1,600,000 1,518 Strata 1,054 Jan-09
THE SEA VIEW AMBER ROAD Condominium 1 1,520,000 1,216 Strata 1,250 Jan-09
THE SEA VIEW AMBER ROAD Condominium 1 2,610,000 2,196 Strata 1,189 Dec-08
THE SEA VIEW AMBER ROAD Condominium 1 1,518,000 1,518 Strata 1,000 Oct-08
THE SEA VIEW AMBER ROAD Condominium 1 1,560,000 1,216 Strata 1,283 Oct-08
THE SEA VIEW AMBER ROAD Condominium 1 1,466,400 1,410 Strata 1,040 Oct-08
THE SEA VIEW AMBER ROAD Condominium 1 1,669,800 1,518 Strata 1,100 Sep-08
THE SEA VIEW AMBER ROAD Condominium 1 1,617,280 1,216 Strata 1,330 Sep-08

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Anyone has any idea what's the cheapest 1654 sqft unit is asking now?

Seaview got this layout?

Seaview got this layout?

Sorry I mean 1647 sqft 4 bedder unit

Sorry I mean 1647 sqft 4 bedder unit

Look for those low floor those facing the round about.

Latest transacted price $1420 psf. S$2m for a 1410 sqft unit.

Lots of potential China buyers in the market...

Latest transacted price

$1,360 psf for S$1.9m 1410 Sqft &

$1,385 psf for $ 1.68M 1216 Sqft :):):)

37 Amber Road* #12-21 Freehold $1223 1216 $1488k 23 Sep 09
39 Amber Road* #17-25 Freehold $1251 1518 $1898k 18 Sep 09
31 Amber Road* #19-09 Freehold $1418 1410 $2000k 08 Sep 09
37 Amber Road* #22-22 Freehold $1550 2723 $4220k 07 Sep 09
33 Amber Road* #15-12 Freehold $1228 1410 $1731k 17 Aug 09
31 Amber Road* #16-06 Freehold $1380 1216 $1678k 12 Aug 09
37 Amber Road* #17-21 Freehold $1217 1216 $1480k 11 Aug 09
33 Amber Road* #06-12 Freehold $1241 1410 $1750k 11 Aug 09
31 Amber Road* #17-07 Freehold $1408 560 $788k 06 Aug 09

Anyone can tell me the phone number of the Sea View's condo management?

Love the Seaview the lights on the top a really nice at night

Love the Seaview the lights on the top a really nice at night
The pool and the landscape at nite are even greater

The pool and the landscape at nite are even greater

Never been in. I also like the entrance very grand.:cheers:

I have a unit 560sf high floor, tenanted till Feb 2012, almost 4% rental yield, ask only $900k.

Please contact me if keen. Also if this post is not appropriate, please inform and I will delete.

I have a unit 560sf high floor, tenanted till Feb 2012, almost 4% rental yield, ask only $900k.

Please contact me if keen. Also if this post is not appropriate, please inform and I will delete.

The last two units of studio

37 Amber Road #09-20 Freehold $1555 527 $820k 14 May 10
37 Amber Road #08-20 Freehold $1497 560 $838k 10 May 10

I always liked the seaview project....

i love it...but was too high a price tag when i spotted it...lol

i love it...but was too high a price tag when i spotted it...lol

Fortunate for you. Was surprised to know the kind of less desirable system that is being installed there.

Fortunate for you. Was surprised to know the kind of less desirable system that is being installed there.

what is this less desirable system?

$1607psf - 太贵 leh, wow next flip has to be at least $18xx-20xx to have a meaningful profit ....


I have a unit 560sf high floor, tenanted till Feb 2012, almost 4% rental yield, ask only $900k.

Please contact me if keen. Also if this post is not appropriate, please inform and I will delete.

$1607psf - 太贵 leh, wow next flip has to be at least $18xx-20xx to have a meaningful profit ....

cheap lor, compare to Siglap V and those in Geylang

Looks like price is dropping?

Condo Name Size PSF Date
THE SEA VIEW* 1,647 1,275 10-Jun
THE SEA VIEW* 1,410 1,277 10-Jun
THE SEA VIEW* 1,410 1,500 10-Jun
THE SEA VIEW* 1,216 1,357 10-Jun
THE SEA VIEW* 1,216 1,440 10-May
THE SEA VIEW* 1,647 1,442 10-May
THE SEA VIEW* 1,410 1,240 10-May
THE SEA VIEW* 527 1,555 10-May
THE SEA VIEW* 560 1,497 10-May

$1607psf - 太贵 leh, wow next flip has to be at least $18xx-20xx to have a meaningful profit ....

its asking leh.. have not nego ma..

its asking leh.. have not nego ma..

1350psf can?

Looks like price is dropping?

Condo Name Size PSF Date
THE SEA VIEW* 1,647 1,275 10-Jun
THE SEA VIEW* 1,410 1,277 10-Jun
THE SEA VIEW* 1,410 1,500 10-Jun
THE SEA VIEW* 1,216 1,357 10-Jun
THE SEA VIEW* 1,216 1,440 10-May
THE SEA VIEW* 1,647 1,442 10-May
THE SEA VIEW* 1,410 1,240 10-May
THE SEA VIEW* 527 1,555 10-May
THE SEA VIEW* 560 1,497 10-May

within Seaview, the price differential could be as high as 20%, depending on the units

Looks like price is dropping?

Condo Name Size PSF Date
THE SEA VIEW* 1,647 1,275 10-Jun
THE SEA VIEW* 1,410 1,277 10-Jun
THE SEA VIEW* 1,410 1,500 10-Jun
THE SEA VIEW* 1,216 1,357 10-Jun
THE SEA VIEW* 1,216 1,440 10-May
THE SEA VIEW* 1,647 1,442 10-May
THE SEA VIEW* 1,410 1,240 10-May
THE SEA VIEW* 527 1,555 10-May
THE SEA VIEW* 560 1,497 10-May


Maybe due to the construction on the FEO condo at the back. I think those that are facing the construction price dropped a bit.

Maybe due to the construction on the FEO condo at the back. I think those that are facing the construction price dropped a bit.

Front got SilverSea, back got The Shore
Only the inner pool view units are still great

Hi All,

Have not seen much postings by the people staying in SV for a long time. Could anyone provide some update on your living experience there? improved? better? nicer? comfortable?

Does anyone stay in the studio in SV? I would like to know your living experience of a studio unit there as well.

I went to look at one of the studio unit there and realise that there is not much ventilation point as in very little windows? and also during rainy days, you cant seem to open the windows as the rain will drip right into the living room or bedroom. anyone could share on this??

Appreciate anyone or anybody to share their thoughts on SV thus far. THank you.

Source:http://sg.news.yahoo.com/wheelock-properties-unit-sued-for-s-14m-for-defects.html
Wheelock Properties unit sued for S$14m for defects
By Ewen Boey | Yahoo! Newsroom – 12 hours ago

Residents of The Seaview, an upmarket condominium in the east, are seeking $14 million in compensation for defects that have been plaguing the estate for the last three years.

The developer, Mer Vue Developments, a subsidiary of Wheelock Properties, is being sued for what is believed to be one of the largest amounts ever in Singapore.

The main contractor Tiong Aik Construction, RSP Architects Planners & Engineers and engineering firm Squire Mech are also named in the suit, which was filed by the condo's management corporation (MC), The Straits Times reported on Saturday.

Complaints of shoddy workmanship and bad smells in their units abounded shortly after residents moved into the estate in mid-2008, which was billed originally as the "Ardmore Park of the east".

The estate's water bill once spiked to S$20,000 a month from S$4,000, before maintenance staff and experts hired by the MC found a leak in a pipe supplying water to the swimming pool. The leak has been tackled by temporarily installing valves.

In late 2009, building surveyors found at least 32 cases of defects in areas such as lift lobbies, the swimming pool, residential units and the basement car park.

In addition, the MC claimed that the contractors did not carry out waterproofing properly in areas such as the basement car park, causing damage and safety risks.

Residents said the same problem was occurring on the rooftops, which meant that higher-floor residents had problems of water seepage and water-stained ceilings and walls.

The problems did not end there, the condo's management claimed.

Experts hired by the MC discovered that floor traps and pipes in the kitchen were not installed properly, leading to food waste being stuck in the pipes, resulting in foul smells and flies in the units.

The residents were given more details of the case in the condo's newsletter last week. It stated that the joint inspections of the defects by the developer and MC in 2009 did not help to resolve the issues.

The MC said that it decided to sue Wheelock Properties after the firm's lawyer wrote to it last year, stating that they would no longer listen to complaints of defects.

In its claims, the MC said it was "reasonable to believe and expect" that Wheelock would construct the development in a "good workmanlike manner" and that the residents can seek recourse against defects.

Defence statements show all parties have denied responsibility for the defects and pointed the finger at the MC for failing to maintain the property.

Mer Vue Development and Tiong Aik Construction argued that competent and reputable contractors and sub-contractors were engaged respectively to carry out the works.

The latter also blamed the MC for their failure to maintain the property.

Wheelock is also behind other luxury projects such as Ardmore Park and The Cosmopolitan.

A High Court pre-trial conference is due to be held next month.