The SeaView with 500 condominium units is opened for private preview on 23rd June 2005, will update this site after the visit.

http://www.wheelockproperties.com.sg/home8.cfm?content=01_07&a=2098663031270.8481?

oh any ideas what style the condominium will be in?

Heard that the government is planning to do more land reclaimation on the stretch of East Coast from Changi to Tanjong Rhu.

So the sea views from existing (and upcoming) sea-front condos may change drastically in the forseeable future.

I remember seeing a proposal for a super-long and slim island that will hug the eastern coastline.

At average $750 psf, no sure who is stealing from who?
City Square with soft launch price of $500 plus should be considered as "Free"


Enjoy waterfront living at The Sea View at a steal
Waterfront living continues to beckon with Wheelock Properties' latest offering, The Sea View. Except this one is easier to reach.
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Home buyers at the East Coast condominium's soft launch this weekend will find that each square foot averages $750.
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That is lower than the prices of seaside properties launched earlier: The Sail @Marina Bay averaged $960 psf while The Berth by the Cove at Sentosa Cove went for an average price of $830 psf.
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The charm of The Sea View lies in its developer's name, said analysts. Wheelock, formerly Marco Polo Developments, is known for building luxurious living spaces – such as The Cosmopolitan sitting on the former Times House site, and Grange Residences — in districts 9, 10 and 11.
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This time, Wheelock is building six 23-storey towers where Seaview Hotel once stood on Amber Road. The Sea View houses 546 units, comprising one-, three-, and four- bedroom apartments as well as 24 penthouses.
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Sizes range from 560 sq ft to 2,900 sq ft. All units, except the one-bedroom apartments, come with a big balcony. Besides swimming pools, a jogging track and a clubhouse, there is an underground car park.
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Cushman & Wakefield managing director Donald Han expects the property to garner a good response: "It's Wheelock's quality assurance. And the location is good — five minutes away from the city and walking distance to eateries."
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Another property analyst who declined to be named added that the East Coast area is synonymous with a relaxed lifestyle. What's more, the price is good, she said: "Sometimes a developer's aim is to get the launch off to a good start. They can always adjust it later."
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At this weekend's soft launch, Wheelock will offer units in two towers at a 10-per-cent discount of $650 psf to $890 psf. It would not say when subsequent phases would be and how prices would be adjusted.
Waterfront living continues to beckon with Wheelock Properties' latest offering, The Sea View. Except this one is easier to reach.
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Wheelock sells 110 units in freehold Katong condo

27 Jun 05

(SINGAPORE) Wheelock Properties (Singapore) has sold about 110 of the 189 units that were released last Thursday during the soft launch of The Sea View condo in Katong.

http://business-times.asia1.com.sg/mnt/media/image/launched/2005-06-27/krseaview27-215738.jpg

The average price the Singapore-listed developer achieved for the units sold in the freehold condominium is $775 per square foot.

This is higher than the $750 psf average pricing that Wheelock announced last week for the first phase release in the condo, and market watchers say this could be due to the fact that the units sold have the choicest views among those released so far.

The 110 or so units sold include six penthouses, which fetched prices ranging from $1.8 million to $2.4 million. The project has drawn interest from both Singaporeans and foreigners. Wheelock is developing the condominium, which will have a total of 546 apartments in six towers, on the former Sea View hotel site it bought in August 2003 and which it later combined with adjoining sites, including one bought from China Airlines.

Analysts say that assuming a $750 psf average selling price for the entire project, Wheelock should be able to book a pretax profit of about $100 million from the project progressively over the next few years, as it sells units and completes the 23-storey development.

The development comprises mostly three and four-bedroom apartments.

Wheelock's acquisition of the Sea View hotel site in August 2003 marked the beginning of an acquisition trail that was to include the China Airlines site next to Sea View hotel; the Times House site along Kim Seng Road; Scotts Shopping Centre and The Ascott Singapore serviced residences above it; and Angullia View. Its shopping bill on sites over the past two years was about $800 million.

Besides the Sea View and China Airlines sites which are being developed into The Sea View condo, Wheelock has also started developing the former Times House site into a condo named The Cosmopolitan, which was launched earlier this year.

Its most profitable project was The Ardmore Park luxury condo, which generated a pre-tax profit of about $1 billion, booked in stages between financial years ended March 1998 and March 2003.

that looks nice

looks rather generic but I like the top.

Keppel's The Belvedere (in Meyer Rd) commanded around $850 psf when launched, so The Sea View's price is actually very reasonable.

For a new sea-facing condo in Katong, $750 psf is a very good price. What's more this is by Wheelock Properties, an upmarket (albeit understated) developer. Their Grange Residences are of a very high quality in finishing and construction.

Not too sure whether is cheap or not.
For a 1200 sq ft unit, the price is 900K, almost equivalent to the price of a landed property.

A DTZ agent SMS me before the soft launch, were told that the price range from 750K to 850K and only certain units (above 8 floors) have sea view.

@Bull

you bought or thinking to get one? :)

but landed property got no view (unless you're on a hill-ouch for wallet), and uhm you're actually close to soil.

$900K won't get you landed property in District 15 lah. Or in any of the 9, 10, 11 prime districts for that matter.

$750 psf is considered cheap already lah. East Coast leh!

At average $750 psf, no sure who is stealing from who?
City Square with soft launch price of $500 plus should be considered as "Free"


Please lah you cannot compare City Square with Sea View. Totally different neighborhoods. One is genteel and historically upper-class, the other used to be red-light district and it is an extension of Little India.

And if you have experienced the launch of City Square, you will know in your heart what sort of neighbors you want to live with - City Square type or Sea View type.

$900K won't get you landed property in District 15 lah. Or in any of the 9, 10, 11 prime districts for that matter.


You will be surprised. :)

Try a search on recent property transactions for landed properties in district 15. You will find quite a number of landed properties sold under $900k. Whereas, there were only 5 recent transactions under $900k in district 9, 10, 11 combined.

http://spring.ura.gov.sg/lad/ore/real_estate/transaction.cfm

Looks like what Richard Meier would do.

Try a search on recent property transactions for landed properties in district 15. You will find quite a number of landed properties sold under $900k.


Yeah I checked, you're right, you CAN get landed property under $900k, albeit tiny ones.

Noticed also that the D15 properties transacted under $900k aren't located in very nice neighborhoods, whereas The Sea View has a nice location. Also, most are old and small terraces and little can be done in rebuilding/refurbishing.

re: D9,10,11. The five properties that were transacted under $900k are also located in not-so-desirable areas, and have small land area. All of them are terraces.

Noticed that of the five, 2 were in Niven Road (District 9). That's the area where Parc Emily is being built. Nearby, there is also 8@Mount Sophia and the Cathay building redevelopment. According to some property watchers, this whole area is destined for great things, after some revamping and getting rid of all the sleazy stuff (KTV, billiards saloons, etc.). Maybe it is a better decision to invest in a Niven Road terrace instead of a chi-chi condo like Sea View. Call me naive, but when more big condo developers start coming into that area, you might be able to buy TWO Sea View units after trading your Niven Road terrace! :nuts:

I was just verifying if "$900K won't get you landed property in District 15 lah" was true.

No hard feelings? :)

No hard feelings? :)


huh? why would you think that? :)

good. ;)

I wonder how long had the plot of land been empty... :runaway:

The project's so big....

What is the status of this project? Is it coming out of the ground yet? Seems like a nice place to live - can walk across the road to Parway.

I'm a bit surprised this one doesn't have a thread already, it's a big project by Wheelock Properties (those guys building the Cosmopolitan ^ ^ ) and it's not exactly lowrise. It's gonna be a few hundreds metres away from Parkway Parade. And it's quite advanced too.

A schematic site plan:
http://membres.lycos.fr/pengssc/img/060513_seaview04.jpg

The board:
http://membres.lycos.fr/pengssc/img/060513_seaview06.jpg

No rendering to be seen :-(
But here is the conservation bengalow mentioned on the above pic:
http://membres.lycos.fr/pengssc/img/060513_seaview03.jpg

Progress as of 13th of May:

http://membres.lycos.fr/pengssc/img/060513_seaview02.jpg

Huge site:
http://membres.lycos.fr/pengssc/img/060513_seaview05.jpg

Blocks are around 15 out of 23 floors built:
http://membres.lycos.fr/pengssc/img/060513_seaview07.jpg

Great water landscaping. :D

Ha, so there was a thread after all ^ ^
Oops ^ ^

yup...tidying up duplicate threads :D

10 Jun 2006

Reaching 18th floor
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h204/hyapic01/DSC_1740.jpg

Some towers already on 21st floor. Agent said it is 90% sold and should be completed ahead of schedule around end of 2007.

Wow... really big :cool:

The Esta, The Sea View or One Amber - all new condo's, all next door, what's the best of the three? Didn't like the layout/lack of privacy at The Esta. I felt One Amber was best price. But settled on a unit at Sea View because of the large balconies, space between apartments and land size despite the tiny size of the bedrooms.

I bought a unit at the Sea View for the same reasons. I must admit though that in my excitement i forgot to bargain properly :) did you get a discount beyond the quoted discount?

I bought in early December - tried to get a discount but agents flat out refused. So I paid full quote price. I heard there was an earlybird discount at launch, wish I was ready for a condo purchase when it was launched.

Major progress, but looks like it is going to be much smaller than the show model. Anyone know if any of the commercial buildings in neighborhood will be upgraded given all the new residential housing added?

Hmm...with approx $1B worth of new properties coming up within a 2km radius, i would hope some of the tacky buildings will be refurbished/redeveloped.

Wheelock has not indicated that the Sea View is sold out. Presumably they are saving some units for sale at higher prices. Can you one confirm that ?

Hi Aaronchong,

Welcome to the forum.

From the URA website, as of Dec 2006, all 546 units have been launched, with only 10 units still unsold.

The website is at:

http://spring.ura.gov.sg/lad/ore/real_estate/takeup.cfm

Select Property Type - Apartments and Condominiums

Select Planning Region - Central Region

I bought a unit at the Sea View for the same reasons. I must admit though that in my excitement i forgot to bargain properly :) did you get a discount beyond the quoted discount?

Hmm...interesting. You mean it is even possible to negotiate the price if it is direct purchase from developer during launch ? Please share your experience.

Well, Sea View would not budge, despite my protestations about a weak property market (then). However, One Amber was willing to offer a discount of a few thousand $ through some creative means. All moot now, i suppose.

The View@Meyer where lower floors were $950+ psf and high floors were $1,700+ psf.

I see sub-sale units are asking for just under $1,000psf now. Anyone knows if there have been any sub-sales above $1,000 yet?

Ads still asking around $1000 psf. I suspect after CNY, prices will go up, with new launches setting benchmarks.

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You can post them here directly:

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BT reported yesterday that if the Paramount Hotel site, which is up for sale, is redeveloped as a condo, the breakeven cost for the developer will be $1100 psf. This bodes well for the Sea View.

Does anyone know of any impending launches in the Amber Road, Marine Parade area? Some classified ads in the saturday papers cryptically refered to impending launch of Silverview...

Thanks.

Anyone??

Heard from that some of the agts who market The Seaview, the latest transacted price already reach 1400psf for a high flr unit last week, some of the owner already asking 1500-1600psf. Look like it going to break the barrier of 1600psf with the impending launch of Amberville & Eastern Mansion this year. Does this F/H Wheelock proj really worth that much?? Any1 can comment on that?? :ohno:

My unit was #21-XX, 1647Sqft. I just got a confirm Oversea buyer who offer my unit for 1578psf.

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My unit was #21-XX, 1647Sqft. I just got a confirm Oversea buyer who offer my unit for 1578psf.


hi Aaron,

I think at present time only those overseas buyers and super rich local buyers will go for that price, but a few months down the road will be different. Your overseas buyer if confirms will set a new benchmark price for the seaview if i not mistaken.:banana: :banana:

The Amberville By Far East will set new benchmark price in this Area by Q3.

The Amberville By Far East will set new benchmark price in this Area by Q3.


Any news of the Amberville will be a leasehold or F/H?? For the 2nd half of this year, the launch of Amberville & Eastern Mansion by Hong Leong will be a hit around this D.15/16 area, think the seafront by Meyer pheomenon will resurfaced again. Look optimistic for The Seaview again....:lol:

Amberville will be LH99(SilverSea)
Eastern Mansion will be FH(Alto),I heard already selling in HK.

Hong Leong Holdings paid $152.90 million or $410 psf/plot ratio for Eastern Mansion, off Meyer Road and Amber Road. With an area of 108,329 sf, the site can yield 320 apartments. Likely will be selling @ $ 1,500psf or more.

Amberville, which cost Far East a total of $183 million, is the first privatised HUDC estate to be sold en bloc. The price set by Far East's $396 per sq ft bid for the estate is higher than expected. The 218,435 sq ft site can be redeveloped into a condo with 530 units measuring 1,200 sq ft on average.
Far East is estimated to have paid a development charge of $35.2 million and $23.8 million to top up the site's lease.

Hong Leong Holdings paid $152.90 million or $410 psf/plot ratio for Eastern Mansion, off Meyer Road and Amber Road. With an area of 108,329 sf, the site can yield 320 apartments. Likely will be selling @ $ 1,500psf or more.

Amberville, which cost Far East a total of $183 million, is the first privatised HUDC estate to be sold en bloc. The price set by Far East's $396 per sq ft bid for the estate is higher than expected. The 218,435 sq ft site can be redeveloped into a condo with 530 units measuring 1,200 sq ft on average.
Far East is estimated to have paid a development charge of $35.2 million and $23.8 million to top up the site's lease.

End of the day, the big winners are the developers ! Buy so cheap, sell so super high.

I personally felt :

-Amberville has a much better location than Seaview, i.e. closer to Parkway and un-blocked sea view.
-Eastern Mansion has a similar un-blocked sea view as well but a bit far from Parkway for amenities. Seafront is more prime as it's at closer to city.

That Amber/T.Katong/Meyer junction is going to be flooded with mass number of new units in the next 3 years.

Any ideas on what rent i can expect for my 1518 sq ft 4 bedder mid-to-high floor pool facing, partially furnished? I've heard upwards of 6k per month.

Hong Leong sells about 60 units of Aalto....:banana:

Ong Beng Seng and family buy condo block. They pay over $200m for 180 units at Costa del Sol in Bayshore area :ohno:

Hong Leong sells about 60 units of Aalto....:banana:

Ong Beng Seng and family buy condo block. They pay over $200m for 180 units at Costa del Sol in Bayshore area :ohno:

Aalto seems more expensive than Seafront@Meyer by Capitaland.
In this hot market, Aalto will be snapped up although location wise Seafront is more prestigious from address and location wise.
Nearby Amber, Esta and Seaview will benefit from Aalto's high price.

Costa del Sol - Few wants to buy over last 7 years - highly price since the launch and reluctant to reduce price even when market at it's low. Cheung Kong must be damn glad to finally pull out and transfer the risk to OBS. But OBS could be right to sell them at a huge profit down the road...time will tell.

Hong Leong sells about 60 units of Aalto

Hong Leong Group is said to have sold close to 60 units at its freehold Aalto condo on the former Eastern Mansion site on Meyer Road.

The project is priced at around $1,950 per square foot (psf) on average, and so far the development has been marketed mostly overseas - in Indonesia and Hong Kong. Former apartment owners of Eastern Mansion have also bought some units in Aalto, which will have 196 apartments in two 27-storey blocks.

So far, slightly more than 100 units have been released, according to industry sources. The 60 or so units sold vary widely in pricing, from around $1,400 psf to $2,200 psf. Market watchers note the pricing is broadly in line with that of CapitaLand’s The Seafront On Meyer launched earlier this year.

Caveats have ben lodged for CapitaLand’s condo at prices ranging from $1,190-1,950 psf, although industry sources say some units have lately been transacted at above $2,000 psf. Aalto has three and four-bedroom apartments.

Hong Leong is also expected to develop another condo along Meyer Road, on a site it bought earlier this year from Della Suantio Lee, wife of Lee Seng Gee of the Lee Foundation. The group bought Eastern Mansion in a collective sale and an adjoining site at a combined unit land price of about $410 psf per plot ratio in 2005.

They pay over $200m for 180 units at Costa del Sol in Bayshore area

Hotel Properties managing director Ong Beng Seng and his family members have bought an entire block of 180 apartments at Costa del Sol on Bayshore Road, for about $200.77 million or $820 per square foot, BT understands

The sale of the final block in the 906-unit condo concludes a 10-year episode for Japura Development

The units were sold by the 99-year leasehold project’s developer, Japura Development Pte Ltd, a unit of Hong Kong tycoon Li Ka-shing’s Cheung Kong Holdings. The 906-unit condo is now fully sold, concluding a 10-year episode for Japura. It bought the site for the condo in early 1997.

The shareholders in the entities that bought Costa del Sol’s final block are said to include Mr Ong, his wife Christina, her brother David Fu and his wife. Mr Ong’s brother, Beng Huat, also has a small stake.

The deal is said to have been driven by Mr Fu. All the 180 units in Block 70 boast unobstructed views of East Coast Park and the sea. They were sold for between $700 psf and $950 psf. The 180 apartments have a combined floor area of nearly 245,000 sq ft.

‘The apartments are leased, which means the Ongs and Fus can enjoy immediate rental return on their investment; plus they can look forward to reaping capital appreciation in the not-too-distant future as this segment of the market has not gone up much,’ said a seasoned market watcher.

Going by two recent deals in two other blocks in the development - $844 psf for a low-floor apartment and $1,108 psf for a higher-floor unit - the Ong/Fu consortium seems to be already in the money on its investment. The sale of the 180 apartments means that Japura has now fully sold the 906-unit condo, seven long years after it began marketing the project in May 2000. Japura’s initial average price was $765 psf but by February 2005, it had trimmed this to $650 psf for a relaunch of about 600 available units then. The project, comprising seven 30-storey blocks, received Temporary Occupation Permit between 2003 and 2004.

Japura paid $683 million or $456 psf of potential gross floor area for the 427,300 sq ft site in January 1997, before the Asian financial crisis hit. Its bid was considered aggressive then, at least 30 per cent above market expectations. The second highest bid in that tender was $351 psf per plot ratio, made by a joint venture between Pidemco Land (now part of CapitaLand) and Malayan Credit (now known as MCL Land).

hi the seaview is nice, but by the time i went to see the showflat, most of the nice units were already sold or blocked.

No worry there is still few good sub-sales units in the market. Better buy now before Amberville Launch by Oct. :bash:

I stay around the East and I can see the final block of Amberville being demolished. If Far East decides to maximise their seaview by building a continuous block of apartments spanning the entire length of the site, this would negatively impact The Seaview.

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Most of the High floor Units with SeaView will be block by SilverSea Project by FarEast.
Only Blk 33 is safe as there is a Power Sub-station beside SilverSea.

...and Rose Garden has gone en-bloc to the north. Three 23 storey towers will likely block north view.

Cotz D'Azure will benefit the most when Amberville is redeveloped for sale.

The good about Seaview despite most of it's sea view will be blocked eventually, is it's big land plot and freehold. Each block is far apart from each other, and each unit has big balcony ( no sea view but can still have good salty sea breeze ).

Most of the High floor Units with SeaView will be block by SilverSea Project by FarEast.
Only Blk 33 is safe as there is a Power Sub-station beside SilverSea.

agree...but even blk 33 may not be spared as it seems that amberville extends to behind the substation in the pic


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wah...like that also can ?

Just a small window to peep into the sea view, so those units are the jewel of Seaview !

Let's see if Far East will give any face to Wheelock.

These are what i call "slivers" of seaview. Isn' it coincidental that the FE project is called Silversea.

Far East would be more concerned about profit maximisation than anything else. Besides, The Seaview is already fully sold so it wouldn't really matter to Wheelock anyway.

Just as a matter of interest, Far East "The Bayshore" was accorded the same treatment from Japura's Costa Del Sol.

These are what i call "slivers" of seaview. Isn' it coincidental that the FE project is called Silversea.

Far East would be more concerned about profit maximisation than anything else. Besides, The Seaview is already fully sold so it wouldn't really matter to Wheelock anyway.

Just as a matter of interest, Far East "The Bayshore" was accorded the same treatment from Japura's Costa Del Sol.

Yes, that's under Li Ka Shing - typical Hong Kong seafront condo with very selfish Great Wall effect. I went there in 2003 and had a chance to see one of it's empty unit on the 15th floor. Very nice sea view even at this level. I pity the Bayshore blocks behind that lost their sea view premium.

Far East learnt the lesson, and now will do similar to maximise it's sea view units, but at the expense of others behind.

Far East and First Capital have done it before to Pebble Bay,Causuarina Cove and Parkshore. My sympathies to the poor Seaview owners. They will probably get to enjoy the view for about 2 years whilst Silversea is being constructed.



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wow.. sanctuary green sure looks like a very nice development from this view..

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Thks for the layout. Superimposing on the site, only stack 13 of block 33 seem to get the sliver of seaview. The rest will have to strain their neck at an obtuse angle. The better stacks seem to be the higher floors of stack 17, 12 and 16 which can clear the podium of parkway parade. They will, however, have to sit at an angle from the direction their balconies are facing.

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Yes, that's under Li Ka Shing - typical Hong Kong seafront condo with very selfish Great Wall effect. I went there in 2003 and had a chance to see one of it's empty unit on the 15th floor. Very nice sea view even at this level. I pity the Bayshore blocks behind that lost their sea view premium.

Far East learnt the lesson, and now will do similar to maximise it's sea view units, but at the expense of others behind.

Actually I've heard of some Bayshore owners who received "compensation" from Far East when Costa del Sol was built. This was due to the fact that they bought Bayshore for its "premium sea views" and when Costa came up, it was gone. Umm ... of course, this is only a rumor not sure if it really happened. ;)

Amber Road

Sweeping away the old

A WAVE of collective sales is gradually sweeping old properties out of the area, to make room for high-style condos that will give the street a brand-new look.

This enclave is becoming the hottest on East Coast Road as buyers snap up units at yet-to-be-completed, relatively large condos, jacking up the area’s value.

Prices averaged $1,050 to $1,500 per sq ft (psf) in the first quarter, up 40 to 45 per cent from $800 to $950 psf a year ago, said consultancy CB Richard Ellis (CBRE).

Condos under construction include Wheelock Properties’ 546-unit The Sea View; MCL Land’s 400-unit The Esta; the 562-unit One Amber from United Industrial Corp and United Overseas Land; and Ho Bee’s 42-unit Vertis.

The three large freehold condos have seen active sub-sales, said CBRE. They are popular for the location, facilities and well-known developers, said a consultant. Recent deals for The Sea View were done near $1,300 psf on average.

Buyers will soon have more choices.

A new project is earmarked for the sites now housing Amber Lodge and Jin Fu Apartments. Voda Land bought these estates en bloc in a private treaty at an undisclosed price and aims to launch Amber Residences in about three months.

Amber Residences It will be an ‘upper mid-market’ condo with 114 units in one 21-storey block selling average of $1,500psf, said Savills Singapore.

More condos will come when Far East Organization redevelops Amberville and Rose Garden, which it bought in collective sales last year.

For now, while construction roars ahead, the existence of older estates like Rose Garden makes for a noisy juxtaposition of past and future.

Did you read the Sunday Times yesterday? It says that some farmer is NOT benifiting because of the en-bloc sales, because dust falls on his plants. Trouble started in 2003 when Mer Vue Developments ( Subsidary of Wheelock Properties ) bought the Seaview Hotel and started constructing The Seaview. Then, 1 year later, MCL Land bought a old condo ( I do not know the name ) and started building The Esta. Haha now the east area is popular with en-blocs.:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

cheers

excelsvr

That farmer stupid !

Take the opportunity and sell off his land to developer - retire immediately, why bother to do farming and make all the complaints.

I guess he want's to attract attention :D

cheers

excelsvr

A....where is One Amber by UIC located ? Was it an en-bloc site as well ?

hm...didnt know Amberville was a HUDC block too....anyone got its picture can share here ??

By the way, anyone has any info about Suites @ Amber ?

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A....where is One Amber by UIC located ? Was it an en-bloc site as well ?

hm...didnt know Amberville was a HUDC block too....anyone got its picture can share here ??

By the way, anyone has any info about Suites @ Amber ?

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Check www.map.gov.sg. It is Mountbatten area. Yes. It is an enbloc site. Cannot remember the name. Maryland Park becomes The Esta.

Yes. Amberville is a HUDC enbloc. So L99. Showroom structure up. Now doing the interior. So coming in 2weeks to 1 mth time. BTW Amberville will block the sea view of The Seaview...hee hee.

Check www.map.gov.sg. It is Mountbatten area. Yes. It is an enbloc site. Cannot remember the name. Maryland Park becomes The Esta.

Yes. Amberville is a HUDC enbloc. So L99. Showroom structure up. Now doing the interior. So coming in 2weeks to 1 mth time. BTW Amberville will block the sea view of The Seaview...hee hee.

Thanks, Bigbird. Didn't know Amberville exist at all in all my life. Only knew the hudc at neptune and lagoon view/lagoona park. :doh:

Check www.map.gov.sg. It is Mountbatten area. Yes. It is an enbloc site. Cannot remember the name. Maryland Park becomes The Esta.

Yes. Amberville is a HUDC enbloc. So L99. Showroom structure up. Now doing the interior. So coming in 2weeks to 1 mth time. BTW Amberville will block the sea view of The Seaview...hee hee.

I thought it was Maryland Park that was on One Amber?

I thought it was Maryland Park that was on One Amber?

i am not sure. cannot rem the name already.

Yes, should be. I remember when I went to see the showflat for One Amber, the old apartment "Maryland Park" was still there.

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Where did you get it from? By the way, it looks slightly like Soleil @ Sinaran. Why isn't there any information about it on DP Architect's website?

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Nice one ^^

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Former Amberville site good location except traffic will be a killer when Esta, OneAmber, The Seaview, former Rose Garden, site beside Marine Pt, Voda Land sites @ Amber Rd all fully developed. All GPR 2.8 developments. At least 2-3k households coming.

Imagine additional 2-3k cars moving at peak hours. 5-6k more people at Parkway Parade and East Coast Park. 500 more children aiming for Phase 2C (<1km) for Tao Nan Pri. Not a nice place to live in the future. And it is quite bad on weekends now.

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Nice rendering. Reminds me of the facade of Soleil @ Sinaran.

Only that it is shorter :lol: :lol:

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Nice rendering! Perhaps we should start a thread on Silversea soon?

Glorified HDB.

Nice rendering! Perhaps we should start a thread on Silversea soon?

I was confused how come Seaview looks different from what I had seen ?

With Siversea design, does it really block all the Seaview's sea view ? Seems there are gaps between the towers.

It sure looks better than The Seaview.

I was confused how come Seaview looks different from what I had seen ?

With Siversea design, does it really block all the Seaview's sea view ? Seems there are gaps between the towers.


FEO would want to maximise the sea view for their units. The Seaview lucky still got peeks of the sea. If FEO follows Costa Del Sol's continuous wave design, The Seaview cannot even see the sea..

This is my personal approximation (see the green blocks)based on the rendering. There seems to be pockets of seaview for the Seaview

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/keenetic/Silversea-3.jpg

Proper-T base on your personal approximation, then No swimming Pools for Sliver Sea already.......:lol:

Plenty of space...:D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/keenetic/Silversea-3.jpg

You the can la...must be working in DP Architect's..:nuts:

Nah lah...just play play only. :rofl:

Ooops. after looking at the rendering, I realised that the drawing is actually fronting the ECP and not amber road. Have replaced the drawings in earlier posts.

Plenty of space...:D

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Now what is that condominium/ building under construction in front of The Seaview?

FEO would want to maximise the sea view for their units. The Seaview lucky still got peeks of the sea. If FEO follows Costa Del Sol's continuous wave design, The Seaview cannot even see the sea..
The same thing happened to Bayshore.

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Woah! The pool and drop-off area looks good! But I can see that there is still a lot of landscaping to be done.

How are the interiors coming along? Nice updates by the way :okay:

Huge landscape, Building & Building distance is far, nice.

Yes. And pool is not edgy like Citylights, The Seaview's one looks calm and serene :lol:

Thks Aaron for the updates. thy r helpful! Pls keep them comg.
BTW anyone knows when the TOP of Seaview is?
Called Wheelock in April 07, thy told me Q3 07.
Called them again in Oct 07, thy told me Q1 08.
Selling my current home soon, but not too sure by then Seaview is ready to move in.

You have a unit there? Congratulations!

I suspect TOP in Feb-Mar 2008. I intend to rent mine out anyway.

Thanks Aaron for the nice pics.

But we don't know the progress for the units interior, so no point guessing unless we have the real progress of it.

I've asked this before with no joy...any idea what a 4 bedder 1518 sqft high floor facing the pool will rent for?

Got the 1410 sq feet 3-bedder facing Katong.
Think the interior is quite done up.
In fact I saw the washer and refrigerator moved in Jun tis yr.

In Seaview?

How did you get in?

^^

The 2 boxes were placed at the balcony. then disappeared days later.

Yeah I also saw a few units with a lot of boxes inside. One unit even had as many as 10 boxes inside. Maybe they used this particular unit for storage?

18th November

Beautiful development, really stands out in the neighbourhood. The photos don't do it justice as the light was real bad ;-)

http://ssc.singapenguin.net/07/071118_the_seaview01.jpg

http://ssc.singapenguin.net/07/071118_the_seaview02.jpg

SeaView has been very fast........ or is it time flies too fast ?

Very fast ^^

When I went to see it in 2005 they were only at the lift lobbies.

18th November

Beautiful development, really stands out in the neighbourhood. The photos don't do it justice as the light was real bad ;-)

http://ssc.singapenguin.net/07/071118_the_seaview01.jpg

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Nice updates Pengui. It's so prominent. I like the second picture where all blocks are visible!

One thing I always wonder: why the glass doors and window panes are not tinted like most developments, even for HDB ones.

With no offence to any owners of The Seaview, I can' t help but noticed that a lot of new condos nowsaday look so similar in design and very boring. I believe it is possible to inject some creativity into the architecture while keeping in mind budget/P&L.

What do you mean "offence"? This a fact and I totally agree with you! Compare Citylights, CitySquare Residences, Riverine by the Park, you'll understamd why.

The only advantage the block design of SeaView is that there is no wasted
space, room sizes are regtangular or squarish allowing for maximum space
utilization.

Another plus is the distance between the blocks - very few new developments offer such a luxury.

Yes, practical design and shape.

With no offence to any owners of The Seaview, I can' t help but noticed that a lot of new condos nowsaday look so similar in design and very boring. I believe it is possible to inject some creativity into the architecture while keeping in mind budget/P&L.wheelock design is never interesting. Only the interior is very interesting.

The only advantage the block design of SeaView is that there is no wasted
space, room sizes are regtangular or squarish allowing for maximum space
utilization.

Another plus is the distance between the blocks - very few new developments offer such a luxury.
trademark of wheelock...

wheelock design is never interesting. Only the interior is very interesting.

Yeah. Their designs like Ardmore II, Scotts Square and Seaview are not iconic at all. But it is very luxurious.

any seaview owners here (on progressive payment) hv paid the 5% for the completed construction of road surface?

any seaview owners here (on progressive payment) hv paid the 5% for the completed construction of road surface?sorry to ask, i was told wheelock only has progressive payment mode. was seaview offered deferred payment? pls advise. thanks!:)

any seaview owners here (on progressive payment) hv paid the 5% for the completed construction of road surface?

Wow, road surface completed means TOP-ing soon!

sorry to ask, i was told wheelock only has progressive payment mode. was seaview offered deferred payment? pls advise. thanks!:)

Yes, Arthur. For 3% more, deferred payment was available. I opted for it.

Yes, Arthur. For 3% more, deferred payment was available. I opted for it.

Well, now there is only progressive payment, so I have no choice but to opt for it :tongue4:

Wow, road surface completed means TOP-ing soon!

That is the next phase I have to pay. so was asking anyone here has made that drawndown.

That is the next phase I have to pay. so was asking anyone here has made that drawndown.

Oh, so it is finishing soon, not completed already :(

Oh, so it is finishing soon, not completed already :(

once this 5% is drawndown, next 20% is 2 weeks bef TOP.
I guess once the road surface is done, wat is left bef it is TOPed?

once this 5% is drawndown, next 20% is 2 weeks bef TOP.
I guess once the road surface is done, wat is left bef it is TOPed?

Have they completed the interiors of the units yet? (the cupboards, tiles, main doors and painting of the walls etc.)

Any latest updates on The SeaView ; photos, TOP date, etc

Pls post them - thanks.

Any latest updates on The SeaView ; photos, TOP date, etc

Pls post them - thanks.

No updates :(

I think the updates are all in the units.

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The Block Lobby
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The Seaview has TOP? How come the lift lobby is accessible? Nice updates by the way ;)

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Woah, hey, Seaview is open to public already?

Great someone must have sneaked in with a camera.....keep posting the photos -thanks.

There is still more work to be done. TOP may be at least 3 to 6 months away.

Great someone must have sneaked in with a camera.....keep posting the photos -thanks.

There is still more work to be done. TOP may be at least 3 to 6 months away.

Woah, woah, sneaking in before TOP is punishable by law..

But I am ok so long as it is not me doing it, so long as can see the photos :lol:

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Woah, The Seaview has TOP, or that is some mock-up show-flat?

Thks Aaron. Nice updates. That's the 4-bedroom apartment. looks quite ready.
If you are "sneaking in" again, dun forget the pools and other rooms, esp the balcony!
any insiders' news when it will TOP?
2 weeks ago, saw they were working on the main entrance and clubhouse.

Thks Aaron. Nice updates. That's the 4-bedroom apartment. looks quite ready.
If you are "sneaking in" again, dun forget the pools and other rooms, esp the balcony!
any insiders' news when it will TOP?
2 weeks ago, saw they were working on the main entrance and clubhouse.

Maybe Seaview will TOP 1Q next year. With all these "sneak peaks" by Aaron, I think roughly about 2 - 3 months more before TOP :)

Thks Aaron. Nice updates. That's the 4-bedroom apartment. looks quite ready.
If you are "sneaking in" again, dun forget the pools and other rooms, esp the balcony!
any insiders' news when it will TOP?
2 weeks ago, saw they were working on the main entrance and clubhouse.

Checked the floorplans and noted that the photos taken are of the 4 bedder 1518sq ft unit. Kitchen layout of the 1647sqft 4 bed is different.

Woah, woah, sneaking in before TOP is punishable by law..

Even a dead woman was sneaked into and left in an uncompleted condo unit at the Viz Holland construction site yesterday, what's more an alive man? :ohno:

My friend is the project manger on site. He take the photo for me.

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My friend is the project manger on site. He take the photo for me.

so he knows when Seaview will TOP?

By End Of Feb. Before Q1 :banana:

By End Of Feb. Before Q1 :banana:

xie xie....right after CNY. perfect timing for me.

Even a dead woman was sneaked into and left in an uncompleted condo unit at the Viz Holland construction site yesterday, what's more an alive man? :ohno:

Wah, the particular unit that the body was found, price sure drop!

What a nice development. Regret not buying an unit. :ohno:

Never be late as you can still buy form open sub-sales market units which is lower price than Amber Residences.

Amber Residences are about 85% sold with min $ 1,600psf for 2nd floor units to $1,900psf for 18th floor.

Never be late as you can still buy form open sub-sales market units which is lower price than Amber Residences.

Amber Residences are about 85% sold with min $ 1,600psf for 2nd floor units to $1,900psf for 18th floor.

To be frank, I don't really like the ceramic floor tiles at the balcony; I don't like to be white in this material. Twin Regency's one is pretty nice though :D

What about the living room and bedrooms? Is it marble and parquet?

Never be late as you can still buy form open sub-sales market units which is lower price than Amber Residences.

Amber Residences are about 85% sold with min $ 1,600psf for 2nd floor units to $1,900psf for 18th floor.

Crazy expensive... One Amber, SeaView was selling at $600-$700psf two years ago. Even the Hong Leong's launch at Meyer Rd at better location and view was selling at $1500-$2000psf two months ago..

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Wow wow :D

The entrance looks good. Nice updates!

Never be late as you can still buy form open sub-sales market units which is lower price than Amber Residences.

Amber Residences are about 85% sold with min $ 1,600psf for 2nd floor units to $1,900psf for 18th floor.

Hi thanks for posting the photos of interiors and the pool.

Can you get photos of the living and the rooms ( of 4 bed -1647 sqft) ?
Thanks once again.

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Deferred Payment Scheme properties. Waiting to see non-DPS properties sales to confirm trend. FEO's Silversea (former Amberville) will be the first major non-DPS property in Amber Rd area.

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Bravo! Bravo! :applause: :applause:

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Will that seaview stay ? I meant does it escape the FEO's new development ?

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I see the theme for Seaview is mostly white?

The living/dining area as shown in the photos look spacious.
White theme looks grand but need extra care.....

Balcony is huge ; perhaps can make it as alfresco dining area.

Any suggestions ?

we bought an apt there in the sub sale market, so we could not see the showflat. according to the plan, the bedrooms look a little small. can anyone who has seen the showflat comment on the size, or give the rough dimensions.

thanks for the photos aaron.

we bought an apt there in the sub sale market, so we could not see the showflat. according to the plan, the bedrooms look a little small. can anyone who has seen the showflat comment on the size, or give the rough dimensions.

thanks for the photos aaron.

In comparison the room sizes are better than the neighbouring Cote d Azur.
It all depends on which project you compare with.

In the 1518 sqft 4 bed - one of the rooms is very tiny - its more practical to
be called a study room.

Of course developments that are more than 10 years old have better room sizes.Nowadays they have the bay windows in every room so that takes up
space.

In comparison the room sizes are better than the neighbouring Cote d Azur.
It all depends on which project you compare with.

In the 1518 sqft 4 bed - one of the rooms is very tiny - its more practical to
be called a study room.

Of course developments that are more than 10 years old have better room sizes.Nowadays they have the bay windows in every room so that takes up
space.

I think with proper Interior Design work, the place can look spacious. I think I went to see the 1,647 sqft showflat for one of the 4-bedders and the space seemed very big?

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From the showflat...for the 1518 sqft i think...


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thanks very much locgreen. they indeed look small.
i guess will have to use mirrors to "increase" size

From the showflat...for the 1518 sqft i think...


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Nice, the interiors look high end, but I think I see the small bedroom that Property-aire mentioned here. I like the mirrored wardrobes too ;)

Locgreen, is that you taking the picture in the 16th picture, you being reflected from the gigantic mirror?

Nice, the interiors look high end, but I think I see the small bedroom that Property-aire mentioned here. I like the mirrored wardrobes too ;)

Locgreen, is that you taking the picture in the 16th picture, you being reflected from the gigantic mirror?

Yes.

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The showroom's balcony with sofa looks much bigger than the actual completed unit's balcony.

Yes.

Oops! :lol:

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Nice pictures. I like the bathroom and the bedroom view. I didn't know The Seaview units come with free fridge? Are there any more frills?

The photos of the actual bedrooms show the size is pretty decent and not
too small.

The photos of the actual bedrooms show the size is pretty decent and not
too small.

I think it is enough to put a single bed plus a study table at the very least. Does the layout incorporate this?

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The showroom's balcony with sofa looks much bigger than the actual completed unit's balcony.

Balcony sizes differ for Type D and E.

What a very lovely apartment. Congratulations!

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Nice, I noticed that for Bedroom 3 in Type E, the 1,647 sqft four-bedder, there is no wardrobe? Are we supposed to imput ourselves?

Yes you are right, there is no wardrobe for BedRoom 3 for Type D & E. we supposed to imput ourselves or use it as study room.

Yes you are right, there is no wardrobe for BedRoom 3 for Type D & E. we supposed to imput ourselves or use it as study room.

Wheelock so smart, leave out the wardrobe to create more space. In bedroom 3 for the 1,647 sqft apartment, if we imput a wardrobe, there will not be enough space for the study table!

IMO the long corridor at entrance foyer in 1518sq ft is wasted space.

The 3 Bedroom Type C 1410 Sqft also have long corridor at entrance foyer of wasted space. :ohno:

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The 3 Bedroom Type C 1410 Sqft also have long corridor at entrance foyer of wasted space. :ohno:

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Maybe to make the place seem bigger, Wheelock could have placed glass panels or windows at the Kitchen with one side facing the long entrance foyer as deemed a waste of space by many forumners

I have recently bought a unit on the 10th flr facing the Marine Parade Rd. Any chance of anyone to snap a photo from a unit on the same flr to see if we are able to enjoy the 'sea-view'?

You need min 12th floor to get the Sea View.

You need min 12th floor to get the Sea View.

Maybe Seaview Owner's unit can see a thin strip of the sea view but not the maximised one. Then what view does Seaview Owner get? The thick foliage below?

Hi Aaron, any more new photos to share with all of us - thanks.

Just wonder any one can provide a confirmed date for TOP, pse! I first heard was Oct 07, then Nov, Dec and now Feb 08 :(

Hear also from the developer that no window grills are allowed for all new condos including The Seaview! True!

Just wonder any one can provide a confirmed date for TOP, pse! I first heard was Oct 07, then Nov, Dec and now Feb 08 :(

Hear also from the developer that no window grills are allowed for all new condos including The Seaview! True!

How can they not allow grilles for a condominium that is high enough to die if fallen from the window? I mean, Seaview is high enough for you to just accidentally drop down and die!

Maybe they will allow the grilles but keep it in uniform fashion so it does not look cluttered.

Buyers on progressive payment have received letters to pay 5% for the completion of car park, drains, etc. This is the payment before TOP.

In the earlier posts, Aaron had mentioned that TOP will be end Feb 08.

Wheelock is also indicating TOP as first quarter 2008.

Buyers on progressive payment have received letters to pay 5% for the completion of car park, drains, etc. This is the payment before TOP.

In the earlier posts, Aaron had mentioned that TOP will be end Feb 08.

Wheelock is also indicating TOP as first quarter 2008.

So that is the consolation for Seaview Owner. He finally can estimate the TOP date already :)

Anyone knows if other new developments that have TOP-ed, eg CityLights, The Belvedere, etc - have any restrictions on window grilles ?

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Basket Ball Court is Ready !!!:banana:
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SeaView Recent Transacted Prices

14th Nov 07 Blk 35 #07-14 4Bdrm 1,647Sqft $2,305,8M $1,400psf

12th Nov 07 Blk 31 #17-07 1Bdrm 560Sqft $ 730,8K $1,306psf

09th Nov 07 Blk 35 #08-14 4Bdrm 1,647Sqft $2,368,3M $1,438psf

31st Oct 07 Blk 33 #16-11 3Bdrm 1,410Sqft $1,903,5M $1,350psf

25th Oct 07 Blk 31 #20-08 3Bdrm 1,216Sqft $1,799,6M $1,480psf

22th Oct 07 Blk 31 #02-07 1Bdrm 560Sqft $ 728k $1,301psf

18th Oct 07 Blk 35 #15-15 3Bdrm 1,410Sqft $1,738,5M $1,233psf

10th Oct 07 Blk 35 #22-15 P.H. 2,723Sqft $3,539,9M $1,300psf

18th Sep 07 Blk 33 #10-13 4Bdrm 1,647Sqft $2,360,0M $1,433psf --- SeaView Owner ??

13th Sep 07 Blk 33 #06-10 4Bdrm 1,647Sqft $1,950,0M $1,184psf

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Basket Ball Court is Ready !!!:banana:
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Oh, my! I just love the fencing! There si still some turfing to be done at the foor of the blocks.

Anyone knows if other new developments that have TOP-ed, eg CityLights, The Belvedere, etc - have any restrictions on window grilles ?

They should not disallow. In most cases, the developers (e.g.-Wheelock for The Seaview) would most likely keep a uniform on the grilles used.

The Club House...
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More gardening work need to be done before TOP la...
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The Club House...
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More gardening work need to be done before TOP la...
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The club house is a conserved building? Sure didn't know that. I thought the whole project is new.

Some questions about procedure after TOP:
How long does it take for one to move in after TOP is announced (considering no renovation to be done)
What is the exact procedure? ( will the lawyers be coordinating everything?)
our current house lease runs out in april, and if TOP is announced say Feb, can we ask the developer to release our unit as soon as possible, maybe "out of queue"?

Some questions about procedure after TOP:
How long does it take for one to move in after TOP is announced (considering no renovation to be done)
What is the exact procedure? ( will the lawyers be coordinating everything?)
our current house lease runs out in april, and if TOP is announced say Feb, can we ask the developer to release our unit as soon as possible, maybe "out of queue"?once the developer got the TOP status, they will instruct their lawyer to contact the buyer's lawyer.
Buyer's lawyer will contact the owner to make arrangement for the bank to release the fund. typically take 2 weeks, the faster 1 arrange the fund, the faster 1 get the key.
yes, you can request the developer to release the key to you.

Some questions about procedure after TOP:
How long does it take for one to move in after TOP is announced (considering no renovation to be done)
What is the exact procedure? ( will the lawyers be coordinating everything?)
our current house lease runs out in april, and if TOP is announced say Feb, can we ask the developer to release our unit as soon as possible, maybe "out of queue"?

Yes, if you give a valid reason, like in your case, the lease runs out in April, developer may be able to allow you to collect your keys first.

Hi pls post photos of the lift lobby - ground level and residential level.

The siteplan shows the lobby area is fairly good size unlike other developments where the lift lobby are very cramped and tight.

Hi pls post photos of the lift lobby - ground level and residential level.

The siteplan shows the lobby area is fairly good size unlike other developments where the lift lobby are very cramped and tight.

I think Aaronchong posted some pictures of the lift lobbies a few posts above. The lift lobby, I noticed too, is quite big. I guess The Seaview is fatter in width thus the space to provide a big lift lobby.

Alto relaunch on 29 dec, starting price of S$ 1,600 Psf onwards.

On Nov checked with my property agent friend. Units from 17th floor upwards were done at above S$2,000 psf. Units below 7th floor were done at below S$1,500 psf. The rest of the floors were between S$1,500 - S$2,000 psf.

Aalto
Locality . Median .... Lowest .... Highest
RCR ...... $2,052psf $1,546psf $2,565psf

Now, 3 / 4 bedrooms priced at abt S$ 1,900 psf for the 7 / 8 floor units.

They have set a new beachmark price for district 15...:banana:

Hi Aaron, seen that you had posted a number of picts on the Seaview. Can you guide how to post the picts on this forum, i got some picts to share with all bros.

Alto relaunch on 29 dec, starting price of S$ 1,600 Psf onwards.

On Nov checked with my property agent friend. Units from 17th floor upwards were done at above S$2,000 psf. Units below 7th floor were done at below S$1,500 psf. The rest of the floors were between S$1,500 - S$2,000 psf.

Aalto
Locality . Median .... Lowest .... Highest
RCR ...... $2,052psf $1,546psf $2,565psf

Now, 3 / 4 bedrooms priced at abt S$ 1,900 psf for the 7 / 8 floor units.

They have set a new beachmark price for district 15...:banana:

You may goto http://photobucket.com

Sign up as a New User, start upload your picture to the server.

Once you upload the picture, you can Copy the IMG code and Paste it in this Forum.

Have fun !!!:)

Does any one have the individual room dimensions for the Type E - 1647 sq. ft. - unit that they can post? Having a very difficult time trying to figure out if my furniture will fit in the space. Also, any further clarity on actual TOP date. Similar to other forum users, I'm running into a pretty hard moving deadline from my current landlord.

My friends who work as a Project Manager on site inform me that they are working to get TOP ready before Chinese New Year. :banana:

They are 90% ready.....let hope for the best...

that is good news aaron. thanks for the info.
that gives me a little more time for the minor renovation, and moving.

Does any one have the individual room dimensions for the Type E - 1647 sq. ft. - unit that they can post? Having a very difficult time trying to figure out if my furniture will fit in the space. Also, any further clarity on actual TOP date. Similar to other forum users, I'm running into a pretty hard moving deadline from my current landlord.


You may put a request to Aaron to ask his friend (who's a project mgr at the site) to provide the room dimensions for Type E.

I suppose it will benefit all SeaView owners on this forum as well.

You may put a request to Aaron to ask his friend (who's a project mgr at the site) to provide the room dimensions for Type E.

I suppose it will benefit all SeaView owners on this forum as well.

Aaron, can your friend help with the room dimensions? Great news on TOP. :) Thanks.

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Aaron - simply outstanding!!! :banana: Thank you very much you do not know how much this is appreciated.

thanks a lot aaron!! :banana:

Now that we have the measurements of all the rooms,living,dining and balcony - a big thank you to Aaron.... what is the general opinion on the room sizes and on the overall unit. Spacious, sizeable, tiny, etc ??

Lets have the feedback,comments and perhaps ideas for id.

the living room is the best part of the house, it is nice and spacious, one of the largest i have seen in new condos being built.
the master bedroom could have been a little bigger, but since they had to fit in 4 bedrooms in 1647, they had to compromise i think.
the balcony is great too, although after the FEO condo comes up and blocks the sea view, i think the view wouldnt be as great.

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Aaron, any photos of the other rooms - yard/bomb shelter, other bathrooms, remaining bedrooms?

Now that we have the measurements of all the rooms,living,dining and balcony - a big thank you to Aaron.... what is the general opinion on the room sizes and on the overall unit. Spacious, sizeable, tiny, etc ??

Lets have the feedback,comments and perhaps ideas for id.

LV and DR are decent size and the balcony is certainly large. I would have liked some of that balcony space to have been shifted to the bedrooms but it is the wheelock vision to have small bedrooms. Using a partial mirror in the DR wall (like in the 1500 show flat pictures) will make the space look even larger. Figuring out what to do with the bay windows in the bedrooms are the real challenge.

Folks, I just heard from inside Wheelock that TOP may not happen in Feb but only in March. I hope this is incorrect hallway chatter but the way the project TOP date has been pushed out over the past 6 months nothing would surprise me anymore. That said, how much can be left to do that would take 12 weeks to complete? Anyone have any feedback?:nuts:

Anyone know the 'real' reason for the TOP delay? It's getting way too long now............sigh :)

Anyone know the 'real' reason for the TOP delay? It's getting way too long now............sigh :)

Perhaps Aaron can help us find out if this "delay" is for real.
( Sorry to trouble you Aaron ! )

In a few earlier posts, Aaron did mention that TOP could be before CNY (as per
info from project mgr ).

They are trying very hard to get the TOP out before CNY, but due to bad weather ( raining in the last few weeks ) some project work been delay. :ohno::ohno::ohno:

Prusa is right. The TOP will be delay till after CNY now. :bash:

Hong Leong Group approaching property launches with caution

CDL may consider putting off redevelopment

THE Hong Leong Group, which includes Hong Leong Holdings (HLH) and City Developments Ltd (CDL), appears to be taking a cautious approach to new property launches amid the fallout from the US sub-prime crisis.

The Aalto: The development will be officially launched at an average price of $1,800-$1,900 psf

After selling about 60 per cent of the 196-unit Aalto at Meyer Road since August 2007 through soft launches, HLH has decided to officially launch the development at an average price of $1,800-$1,900 per square foot (psf).

And asked about future launches, including those on en bloc sites like Lucky Tower in Grange Road, CDL, which has one of the biggest landbanks here, said that it may consider putting redevelopment on hold.

‘Depending on construction schedules, where there are opportunities we may consider other alternatives like short-term leases,’ a CDL spokesman said.

According to CB Richard Ellis, CDL alone could have about 2,800 residential units ready for launch this year.

With this sort of figure, it makes sense for developers to tread carefully, with some preferring to test the market first.

HLH’s Aalto will only be officially launched this weekend but monthly data from the Urban Redevelopment Authority reveals that sales began as early August last year.

According to the data, about 60 units were sold at a median price of $1,597 psf that month. The highest price achieved was $2,470 psf while the lowest was $1,389 psf.

A month later, HLH sold one unit at $1,570 psf, followed by 49 units in October at a median price of $1,632 psf. In November, it sold six units at a median price of $2,052 psf.

A spokesman for HLH said: ‘The units released during the soft launch were mainly units on the lower floors, hence the average price for the units sold during the soft launch was lower than for the six units sold in November, which were on the higher floors. We are opening up high-floor units for the official launch and henceforth the estimated average price for the whole development will be at $1,800-$1,900 psf.’:banana:

Knight Frank’s director of research and development Nicholas Mak reckoned that the pricing for the official launch is on the ‘aggressive’ side but said that because more than half the development has been sold, the developer can afford to test the market with higher prices. ‘Developers can choose to price high and sell at a slower pace, or price low and sell at a faster pace,’ he said.

Pricing developments too high can be a ‘gamble’, depending on how the US sub-prime crisis plays out, he added.

HLH said that 50 per cent of the buyers so far are Singaporeans, with about 5 per cent thought to be HDB upgraders. The remaining buyers are foreigners.

HLH said that it is still allowed to offer deferred payment to Aalto buyers and about 40 per cent have taken this up.:nuts:

HLH said that 50 per cent of the buyers so far are Singaporeans, with about 5 per cent thought to be HDB upgraders. The remaining buyers are foreigners.

HLH said that it is still allowed to offer deferred payment to Aalto buyers and about 40 per cent have taken this up.:nuts:

HDB upgraders bought this property for stay ? Ave. $1.6k * 1600sf = $3.2million ?
Must be investors staying in HDB address bought for speculating/investment with deferred payment.

They are trying very hard to get the TOP out before CNY, but due to bad weather ( raining in the last few weeks ) some project work been delay. :ohno::ohno::ohno:

Prusa is right. The TOP will be delay till after CNY now. :bash:

Aaron, thanks for the update. I suspect this is going to drag into March and have started the lease extension discussions with my landlord already.:ohno:

SINGAPORE : A few versions outlining Singapore’s likely future MRT map are currently circulating on the Internet.

They include what appears to be a new MRT line — the North Shore Line — and station names and locations for the Eastern Region Line.

The map looks remarkably like the real deal, and there are a few versions floating around on the Internet, with details filled in.

In the north, the speculative map pointed to a new MRT line. It is called the North Shore Line — starting from Sembawang, going past Punggol and ending at Changi Airport.

Further down is the Eastern Region Line — previously announced but without details. Now it has station names, which authorities cannot confirm. The line starts from Chinatown and goes past Bendemeer to Kaki Bukit, after which it branches off — one going to Tampines and the other to Marine Parade.

While there has been no confirmation on the exact station details, Channel NewsAsia asked some of the residents in one of the areas mentioned, Marine Parade, what they thought and where they thought — if any such station should come up — it would be located."

One resident said, "I heard that the MRT will be coming up somewhere in NTUC Marine Parade Central." Another added, "They just said an MRT near Tanjong Katong." A third noted, "It is going to go past Telok Kurau and come out at Marine Parade."

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Another interesting possibility these maps pointed to is a Shenton Way Station as part of the Circle Line, and a Marina View Station at the end of the North—South Line.

When asked about the authenticity of the maps, the Transport Ministry said they did not originate from the Land Transport Authority and should not be taken as an accurate indication of future MRT lines.

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I can imagine LTA not want to confirm this as it is state secret stuff given the impact such a map can have on property prices. In all likelyhood the planning drawings are already complete for the East Line since the time it takes to get these things done is long. Perhaps there is a reason that N-Parks had part of the land at Katong Park (Meyer/Fort Rd) taken back by SLA. Also, ever wonder why the old movie theater at Parkway has never been torn down and redelvoped? Pretty easy to extend the Circle Line from Stadium station straight down with stops at Fort Rd, Tanjong Katong, Still Rd (Parkway), etc. then link back up to Bedok as the map shows above. Just my guess.

SPEECH BY MR MAH BOW TAN, MINISTER FOR NATIONAL DEVELOPMENT, AT URA CORPORATE PLAN SEMINAR

Planning for Growth, Investing in Our Future

Transportation

19 Another important area is transportation. Singapore can be proud of our public transport system, which is reliable, convenient and affordable.

20 As our population grows and more visitors make their way to Singapore, greater transportation needs will have to be met. We will need to add to and extensively improve the existing road network. Existing expressways will be upgraded, and many new expressways will be added. However, as Singapore becomes more built up, land for further road widening and new roads will be limited. Some may have to pass through built-up areas, and many new roads will have to be underground or on viaduct, to optimise the use of space. These roads will be more expensive to build. But even then, there is a limit to how many new roads we can build. The trade-off will be less land for other uses, such as housing and industry. Nature areas and parks may have to go. More vehicular traffic could also compromise our living environment by generating more noise and air pollution.

21 We need to think of bold solutions to meet the greater transport needs without undermining the quality of our environment. One way is to improve our public transport system even more, so that we are less reliant on private transportation. A comprehensive review is being carried out by the Ministry of Transport (MOT)/Land Transport Authority (LTA) to look into the way we travel. The aim is to increase the proportion of trips taken on public transport during the morning peak period from 63% today to at least 70% over the next 10 to 15 years. This approach of heavy reliance on public transportation is not unusual. In dense cities such as New York and London, most people leave their cars at home and travel by the subway and public buses, as it is the most convenient way of moving around the city.

22 To achieve this, we have to invest in our public transport infrastructure and improve the service levels to provide a high quality and affordable public transport system for commuters. For a start, the Rapid Transit System (RTS) network will have to be expanded, with more rail lines added to new areas, thereby enhancing accessibility and reducing travel times. The integration between rail and bus services will also be improved for more seamless connectivity.

23 For instance, the Circle Line will add another 33.3 km to our rail network when it opens from 2010 onwards. It will link all existing Mass Rapid Transit (MRT) lines running into the city, greatly enhancing connectivity between suburban areas and reducing journey time for commuters considerably. Commuters travelling from Serangoon to Paya Lebar, for example, will take less than 15 minutes on the Circle Line, compared to about half an hour by bus or MRT today. The Boon Lay Extension to the East-West MRT line, when completed in 2009, will serve the needs of the people working in the Jurong Industrial Estate. LTA is currently carrying out feasibility studies for a new 33-station Downtown Line. The 40 km underground line will link up the developments in Marina Bay to estates in the Choa Chu Kang/Bukit Panjang/Bukit Timah corridor and the MacPherson/Bedok Reservoir/Tampines corridor. Beyond that, LTA will be evaluating other new lines as well as extensions to current lines in different parts of Singapore which are currently under-served by the RTS network as part of the overall master plan. In the long term, we may need to at least double our rail network.

The Eastern Region Line will start form Marine Parade via Telok Kurau, East Coast then Bedok. Will not stop via Mayer/Fort Rd as that is mainly landed property area.

:badnews::badnews:Actually if they delay past CNY for TOP, PLUS realistically, any internal renovation/retro-work by new owners will probably take another 2-4 weeks, we will be looking at Chinese Ching Ming (Lunar 3rd Month) before any household will be able to move in. Not too sure if people will be prepared to move in such non-auspicious month.

Maybe, someone who knows the developer should seriously ask them to take into consideration of such plight their buyers may be facing and empathize by 'rushing' thru to TOP asap. I'm sure those that had been looking forward to having their first Christmas Turkey on the balcony in 2007 were disappointed the second time of not able to pop their champagnes on New Year Day and now probably missing out even on the "lo-hei" and what's next.........??!?!?!?! It seems that we will even have to miss our chance of sharing Easter Eggs with our new neighbours this year!!!