For all of you dear friends ! :)
(especially to our friend SK , Kuvvaci and all the turkish friends of agora )
i would like to show few photos of Ömeriye Camii (mosque) and meriye Ömeriye (emerike) Bath (HAMAM) in the old town of Nicosia.



The recently restored and completely renovated Ömeriye Turkish Baths of Nicosia ( Οθωμανικά Λουτρά Ομεριέ Λευκωσίας )

Address : Tyllirias Square, Old Town Nicosia

http://www.nicosia.org.cy/images/064.jpg

And some very good news first :


March 2006
WINNERS OF ANNUAL EUROPEAN UNION PRIZE FOR CULTURAL
HERITAGE
EUROPA NOSTRA AWARDS ANNOUNCED

Awards will be presented in June by H.M. Queen Sofia of Spain at Palacio Real de El Pardo, Madrid

Among the 5 Top Prices (5 categories) are the Omeriye Baths of Nicosia :

Conservation of Architectural Heritage:
to the 16th century Omeriye Ottoman Baths, Nicosia (Cyprus) located in one of the most neglected areas of the walled city. Their restoration and modernisation enabled to retain the traditional use, and has greatly contributed to upgrading the building environment and to preserving and promoting the multicultural character of the city.

Close view of the entrance (May 2006)
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/8103/emerike18cs.jpg


The hamam is operating every day (Sundays are only for women) . It was the first hamam in the 1500s and today it is fully equipped with modern necessities and impressively decorated.

View of the Hamam (May 2006)
http://img318.imageshack.us/img318/4049/emerike24uv.jpg



Ömeriye Camii

Converted into a mosque in 1571 by Mustapha Pasha, who believed that the original 14th century Augustinian church of St. Mary's, was built on the spot where prophet Omer rested when visiting Nicosia. Most of the original building was destroyed by Ottoman artillery. Engraved tombstones of the Lusignan period were used to re-floor the mosque. Remains of late Venetian building can be seen near the east end of the mosque.

View of the building today (May 2006)

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/2610/emerike37di.jpg

Για ρίξε μια ματια προς το CityScapes forum να δεις τι κάνουνε οι "φίλοι" σου.

very intressant !

thanks for the pictures.

Προμηθέα δεν είχα καν προσέξει τo thread που μου είπες , τώρα το είδα..
Τέλος πάντων η αναφορά μου προφανώς έχει να κάνει για εκείνα τα άτομα που κρατάνε χαμηλούς τόνους και μένουν μακριά από φανατισμό. Σε εκείνους που ανεξάρτητα με την καταγωγή τους αγαπούν την Ελλάδα με τα καλά της και τα στραβά της και επισκέπτονται την ελληνική αγορά για να δούνε ωραίες φωτογραφίες , να διαβάσουν απόψεις αλλά και άρθρα για την σύγχρονη ελλάδα και τον ελληνικό πολιτισμό μέσα στους αιώνες αλλά και για τα προβλήματα που την ταλαιπωρούν.
Γιατί πολύ απλά να μην αγνοήσουμε όσους δημιουργούν προβλήματα και προκαλούν με τις δημοσιεύσεις τους?

Τέλος πάντων η αναφορά μου προφανώς έχει να κάνει για εκείνα τα άτομα που κρατάνε χαμηλούς τόνους και μένουν μακριά από φανατισμό. Σε εκείνους που ανεξάρτητα με την καταγωγή τους αγαπούν την Ελλάδα με τα καλά της και τα στραβά της και επισκέπτονται την ελληνική αγορά για να δούνε ωραίες φωτογραφίες , να διαβάσουν απόψεις αλλά και άρθρα για την σύγχρονη ελλάδα και τον ελληνικό πολιτισμό μέσα στους αιώνες αλλά και για τα προβλήματα που την ταλαιπωρούν.
Γιατί πολύ απλά να μην αγνοήσουμε όσους δημιουργούν προβλήματα και προκαλούν με τις δημοσιεύσεις τους?

Ένταξη φιλε το μονο που ήθελα να πω είναι ότι ο Kuvacci δεν είναι φίλος σε μας εδώ στην Αγορά.

Αλλα πολύ οράο post και φωτογραφίες. Το έκανα post στο "Republic of Cyprus" thread στο άλλο forum. :) :)

Very nice pictures!

Thanks for posting. Hope to visit there someday. :)

very nice pics

This is 2nd message in a row I delete in this thread. The next one ( you know who you are ) who will try to play the smart guy will brigged for 1 week.

Political discussions in the english language are NOT allowed in the H.A.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=323732

Back to the topic.

@skaros
thanks!!!


i saw some time ago some pics of the interior of the hamam and it looks very nice.
a norwegian friend of mine who visited it said it is a 5 star hamam ,if such a classification can exist.
i will try to find those pics

Ευχαριστώ φίλε SK και Προμηθέα ! :)
Και εγώ πάντως έτσι άκουσα ότι είναι πολύ ωραίο μέσα , αν πας καμιά μέρα πάρε και τη μηχανή μαζί .

Is this located on the Greek or the Turkish side of Nicosia??

its situated in the old nicosia on the greek side

Why did they rebuild this?

What the FUCK? Rebuilding MOSQUES?

DO THEY KNOW WHAT THEY DID TO CHURCHES IN THE OCCUPIED AREAS?!!

i agree

well...we are not barbarians and uncivilized as them :)

i agree

lol, great avatar arxeos :lol:

So that we make a statement. We rebuilt and preserve your cultural sights and you turn ours into stables. Hopefully they will follow our example.

Because just like the Roman theater of Curium, the French castle Kolossi and the Venetian walls of Nicosia, they (the monuments from the ottoman period) are a part of the architectural heritage of our country and part of our history. By preserving them we not only benefit by attracting tourists to see them, but first of all we benefit ourselves because the result is the improvement and beautification of our city, which
unfortunately despite having a very long history, has very few surviving architectural monuments to show for it. Just my two cents...

^^ The problem with us is that when something is old aka more than 50 years old we demolish it and build something modern. We have no respect whatsoever for our beautiful neo-classical style. Take a look at the old neighbourhoods in cypriot cities. Europe is not like that. They just build somewhere else. That's why they have so beautiful cities and Cypriots flock to see them.

i agree but hopefully now we can rescue what can be saved. does anyone knows something about the Papadopoulou theater in old Nicosia that was a miniature of the Skala tou Milano; it was demolished to build a factory or a tall building back in the 60´s. that was something stupid i have seen pictures and it was so beautyfull

well...we are not barbarians and uncivilized as them :)

hmmm it's because the restoration of old Ottoman mosque in Athens not allowed and it's about to collapse. :)

hmmm it's because the restoration of old Ottoman mosque in Athens not allowed and it's about to collapse. :)
You are Turk, and you complain about the "destruction" of the Ottoman "heritage" in Greece? :bash: Have you ever seen the mosques in Greece?If yes, compare them with the churches of occupied Cyprus. If not, SEE them (the mosques-including the one you mentioned).

You are Turk, and you complain about the "destruction" of the Ottoman "heritage" in Greece? :bash: Have you ever seen the mosques in Greece?If yes, compare them with the churches of occupied Cyprus. If not, SEE them (the mosques-including the one you mentioned).

Thank you Olympios :) Yes I'm Turkish but I didn't say I'm muslim or whatever. So the churches & mosques don't interest me here much. My point of view here is, why in both culture and countries are so disrespectful and people behave so rude each other.
Anyway we are so close each other but we like fighting everytime. why???
In Greece, Athens,Thessaloniki, and I'm sure in other cities and Cyprus there are too many valuable ruins from Ottoman empire. And here in Turkey in Istanbul, Izmir and many cities of southernwast there are many valuable ruins from Greeks. Our people lived together for centuries. that's why we are so close and have similar cultural heritage.

I don't understand what is the problem that we cannot solve??
Or why do we continue "some" wrong opinions on us that we hear / see from our politicians? Why don't we try to change it into positive?
anyone can explain me but truely?

thank you

Anyway we are so close each other but we like fighting everytime. why??? Easy, because of politics.

I don't understand what is the problem that we cannot solve?? Come on, you know them.

In Greece, Athens,Thessaloniki, and I'm sure in other cities and Cyprus there are too many valuable ruins from Ottoman empire. And here in Turkey in Istanbul, Izmir and many cities of southernwast there are many valuable ruins from Greeks.

I agree with this, but it's difficult to swallow a comparison between what is happening to the occupied areas with this :) (mosque in Trikala, central Greece):
http://www.uth.gr/main/research/synedria/anakoinvseis/tefaa_synedrio_dec2001/trikala%20photos/tzami2.jpg

FINALLY!!i've internet! anw...all the ottomans monuments are safe in cyprus...btw this is a forum for cyprus so any complains about the greeks plz write them to the greek forum..anw, SHA you are so wrong! cyprus government has restored these mosques and graves!like halan sultan tekke,Omeriye Turkish Baths & Omeriye Mosque ,even a mosque where it was build for the honor of the first turk who passed the enetians wall in nicosia! we've keep your nations culture but i cant see the same thing in the occupied cyprus...moreover we made this buildings as a turist attraction

FINALLY!!i've internet! anw...all the ottomans monuments are safe in cyprus...btw this is a forum for cyprus so any complains about the greeks plz write them to the greek forum..anw, SHA you are so wrong! cyprus government has restored these mosques and graves!like halan sultan tekke,Omeriye Turkish Baths & Omeriye Mosque ,even a mosque where it was build for the honor of the first turk who passed the enetians wall in nicosia! we've keep your nations culture but i cant see the same thing in the occupied cyprus...moreover we made this buildings as a turist attraction

Thank you dear, :) You know unfortunately we have much way to drive :)
But here, I would like to say as most of Turkish people's opininon, we agree and in reality we do not have any problems each other and also support for it! ;)

And about ottoman&greek heritages,
It would be really great to see reality and know how to respect them each other. I cannot believe, how can it be destroyed / occupied etc. ?? it must be considered as cultural richness. Who cares ha? It was built by Ottomans or Greeks, we live in the same world :):) we have to much to criticize ourselves as Turkish&Greek :bash:

Thank you

FINALLY!!i've internet! anw...all the ottomans monuments are safe in cyprus...btw this is a forum for cyprus so any complains about the greeks plz write them to the greek forum..anw, SHA you are so wrong! cyprus government has restored these mosques and graves!like halan sultan tekke,Omeriye Turkish Baths & Omeriye Mosque ,even a mosque where it was build for the honor of the first turk who passed the enetians wall in nicosia! we've keep your nations culture but i cant see the same thing in the occupied cyprus...moreover we made this buildings as a turist attraction

You had to protect, not because you respect or like. If you demolish or destory them, your government couldn't explain it to the world as a state who says "I m Republic of Cyprus" wich is a common shared state. It is just a political move as making Turkish programs on TV or giving Turkish lessons at the schools.

All of them are for protecting the "Republic of Cyprus" title

You had to protect, not because you respect or like. If you demolish or destory them, your government couldn't explain it to the world as a state who says "I m Republic of Cyprus" wich is a common shared state. It is just a political move as making Turkish programs on TV or giving Turkish lessons at the schools.

All of them are for protecting the "Republic of Cyprus" title

maybe the programs on tv and the turkish lessons are a political move but not the restoration of monuments.
cyprus has very good relations with all other neighbouring muslim countries despite occassional problems(eg, egypt).
monuments on the island may not have been built by them but its part of their religious culture too.
we in cyprus dont usually destroy monuments,why are the venetian walls still standing in nicosia,why are there still colonial houses all over the island?

you might be right though in one thing,we may not like them.....but i know for sure that we do respect them!!!

so, for even relations with othe muslim countries is a policy too. Espacially you have to be good with some of them for oil researches.

Also EU is another fact. EU has culutral programs about cultural heritages in member countries.

North Cyprus is different than you. (IMO in a wrong way), they want to create a national identity, a new TRNC nationality. Their policy about monuments is wrong but they goes the same way what Balkan countries (including Greece) did after they had their independence.

so, for even relations with othe muslim countries is a policy too. Espacially you have to be good with some of them for oil researches.

Also EU is another fact. EU has culutral programs about cultural heritages in member countries.

North Cyprus is different than you. (IMO in a wrong way), they want to create a national identity, a new TRNC nationality. Their policy about monuments is wrong but they goes the same way what Balkan countries (including Greece) did after they had their independence.

It is interesting that you judge Greece's policy about monuments. Did Turkey took a different policy when they invaded Cyprus? When I visited the occupied parts 4 years ago my dad village church was stripped bare and turned into a mosque and my mom's was turned into a stable. The cemeteries of both villages were pillaged. How is Turkey's policy different? Their policy began centuries ago. Hagia Sophia anyone?

It is easy to point your finger and take self-righteous stance, but that doesn't make it a right thing to do.

I'm glad that you agree the TRNC policy is wrong. Some political policies of the Republic of Cyprus are wrong too! Cyprus will truly flourish again only when both sides reconcile and become one as before.

not really, restoration of monuments began a long time before the oil researches and joining EU.
of course now with the european cultural programs is better and easier to restore the ones not restored yet.

But what you say , being good to each other bc of oil research, can only benefit everyone which is very good.
lets hope that more things besides oil will be found as a common ground so that we can all be more nice to each other

It is interesting that you judge Greece's policy about monuments. Did Turkey took a different policy when they invaded Cyprus?

Did I say antyhing else, or where I judge that "you start your post like this? Do you understand what you read, or just understand what you want? You blame me what I didn't say and act with prejudice. You don't read what I wrote, you just think "oh auto Turkos probably said this" and react. :ohno:

Did I say antyhing else, or where I judge that "you start your post like this? Do you understand what you read, or just understand what you want? You blame me what I didn't say and act with prejudice. You don't read what I wrote, you just think "oh auto Turkos probably said this" and react. :ohno:

Kuvvaci I did not think of that. But I am a linguist. I know when a sentence is judgemental and when it is not. :) Your judgement was:

''Their policy about monuments is wrong but they goes the same way what Balkan countries (including Greece) did after they had their independence.''

Anyways. It's now forgotten on my behalf.