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Forza Raalte May 20th, 2006, 11:10 AM Name some.
(please don't make this turn into a 'my country is better than your country' thread)
Iraq seems like a fascinating country to me. Samarra, Bagdad and Najaf are great cities and it's the craddle of civilization. But than again, name some place more dangerous than Iraq. It's impossible to go there as a tourist at the moment.
Colombia is a place I would probably never visit. Bogota and Medelling are nice cities, true metropolis. But I just won't feel safe in a country which run by drugs gangs. When I think of Colombia I always think of a nice mountanious country packed with FARC troops and great chances to be kidnapped when you're in the rural areas.
Lebanon. Lebanon is one of my favourite countries in the world. My dad went there as a soldier and he likes to return there with whole the family. Plans were actually made to travel to Lebanon in 2005 but a few months before the minister of foreign affairs was assassinated. The country was very turbulent. People called for a democracy and the departure of the Syrians in their country. Me and my family decided that we didn't go to Lebanon. Maybe we will when the situation is better.
There are a lot of other countries which I won't travel because of safety reasons but which I wouldn't travel anyway. Like Sudan, Togo and Somalia.
Nicolás May 20th, 2006, 11:18 AM countries I'd like to visit if they were safer (a better question for this thread I think!):
Beautiful landscape, but not safe: Haiti
same with lots of central African or some central American countries!
JustHorace May 20th, 2006, 12:00 PM Chechnya
schmidt May 20th, 2006, 01:02 PM Israel. Nice history, but too dangerous.
To Iraq I would never travel anyway, so that wouldn't be for safety reasons...
persian May 20th, 2006, 01:09 PM Colombia, Iraq
DrasQue May 20th, 2006, 01:33 PM Iraq,Syria,Iran
Tom_Green May 20th, 2006, 01:33 PM Everything south of the USA and Africa.
I know my opinion is based on a lack of information and some generalization but this is my opinion now.
Tomesh May 20th, 2006, 02:02 PM I think most places are allright, Iraq and Afghanistan seem to be risky though ;) Some of the poorest African nations I also doubt I would travel to.
Everything south of the USA and Africa.
I know my opinion is based on a lack of information and some generalization but this is my opinion now.
What is there unsafe south of the African continent ? Penguin colonies in Anarctica ?
premutos May 20th, 2006, 02:06 PM Name some.
(please don't make this turn into a 'my country is better than your country' thread)
Iraq seems like a fascinating country to me. Samarra, Bagdad and Najaf are great cities and it's the craddle of civilization. But than again, name some place more dangerous than Iraq. It's impossible to go there as a tourist at the moment.
Colombia is a place I would probably never visit. Bogota and Medelling are nice cities, true metropolis. But I just won't feel safe in a country which run by drugs gangs. When I think of Colombia I always think of a nice mountanious country packed with FARC troops and great chances to be kidnapped when you're in the rural areas.
Lebanon. Lebanon is one of my favourite countries in the world. My dad went there as a soldier and he likes to return there with whole the family. Plans were actually made to travel to Lebanon in 2005 but a few months before the minister of foreign affairs was assassinated. The country was very turbulent. People called for a democracy and the departure of the Syrians in their country. Me and my family decided that we didn't go to Lebanon. Maybe we will when the situation is better.
There are a lot of other countries which I won't travel because of safety reasons but which I wouldn't travel anyway. Like Sudan, Togo and Somalia.
sounds like you really need to turn your tv off, and listen to the media and its virulent sensationalist crap less
especially on lebanon and colombia, I would suggest you inform yourself
saying u wouldnt travel to these places because of ignorant stereotypical stuff you just mentioned
is like me saying I could never go to any european country because of the nazis!! and le pen!! and the riots in france
GET INFORMED
THIS THREAD SUCKS, IS PLAIN OFFENSIVE AND STEREOTYPICAL BASED ON MISSINFORMATION.
premutos May 20th, 2006, 02:08 PM Colombia, Iraq
Colombia is a lot safer than Iran
at least in Colombia they dont cut your head for being gay or women get stoned for cheating on their husbands.
Tom_Green May 20th, 2006, 03:12 PM What is there unsafe south of the African continent ? Penguin colonies in Anarctica ?
Everything south of the USA
and
the entire continent Africa.
FREKI May 20th, 2006, 03:29 PM I prefere to travel in developed countries, where you know there's always professionel help in case you need it... So my won't go list is quite extensive :D
Basicly drug infested countries, ultra religius countries, places with civil war or internal fighting and very poor places...
However I would love to see everywhere on the planet as long as it's with a UN resolution and a rifle in my hands :D
Beiruti May 20th, 2006, 03:39 PM Lebanon. Lebanon is one of my favourite countries in the world. My dad went there as a soldier and he likes to return there with whole the family. Plans were actually made to travel to Lebanon in 2005 but a few months before the minister of foreign affairs was assassinated. The country was very turbulent. People called for a democracy and the departure of the Syrians in their country. Me and my family decided that we didn't go to Lebanon. Maybe we will when the situation is better.
I am sorry but you are very confused about Lebanon. I traveled to Lebanon in 2005 and have gone almost every summer for vacation. It is VERY safe and very western/tourist-friendly. Please reconsider your opinion on the safety of the country. I admit, there have been political problems (but that is true with most democracies) and yes last year Lebanon witnessed a terrible tragedy, however unless you are some very important political figure or journalist you have nothing to worry about. There has been no violence in the country so far in 2006 and things are very calm. The minister of tourism is predicting that 1.6 million tourists will come to Lebanon this year. So, if you still think this way I feel very sorry for you because you are missing out greatly.
PS. I urge you to visit the new Lebanon sub-forum!
Audiomuse May 20th, 2006, 04:29 PM 1Iraq
2Afghanistan
3North Korea--(even though ppl say its safe you never know.)
4Haiti
5Iran/Indonesia/Colombia/Myanmar/Somalia
6Saudi
7Syria
8Liberia
9Palestine/Israel
10Sri Lanka
OtAkAw May 20th, 2006, 05:15 PM This thread might be filled with ignorance and some maybe terribly misinformed or just stubborn enough to downgrade other nations' tourism.
snife2005 May 20th, 2006, 06:20 PM I probably would nt go to the middle east, eastern Africa, and some south american countries, also Antartica, dangerously cold, oh yes and nottingham.
grzes May 20th, 2006, 08:05 PM Parts of Russia, South America, certain countries in Africa, and certain countries in the middle east, but only the ones that are de-stabilized.
schmidt May 20th, 2006, 08:16 PM It's funny to see how some people think everything outside North America, Europe, Japan/Korea and OZ/NZ is a warzone.
FREKI May 20th, 2006, 09:14 PM It's funny to see how some people think everything outside North America, Europe, Japan/Korea and OZ/NZ is a warzone.
I think it's more a question about having a good time while travelling - most people in the west are used to a high standard and very little corruption, so when they spend their money and time on a vacation they want to keep the risk of bad stuff to a minimum. And should something happen anyway they want to feel safe and sure the athorities will help them.
I have a friend travelling around South America for 3 months - last week she was mugged twice in Peru - not excactly how she wanted her vacation to go!
In resent times there's been some debate here about the terror attack in Egypt, where a young Danish child lost his leg and 2 other Danes were seruisly injured - and why people would go to the country, where the risk is what it is, and after the resent cartoon deal Danes ain't particularly welcome.
It's not even been 3 months since the Danish Foreign Ministry cleared it for recreationel travelling again...was it worth it to bring young children there so soon after, just to save a few bucks? I think not!
It's not so much a question about if the non-western countries have something to offer - ofcause they have.. tons! - but more a question about if the risk is worth it...
Personly I would love to see the entire world, but I won't jeopardice everything to do so - unless it's part of my duty!
When I travel I prefere to leave all worries behind - and I don't think I will be able to do so in a place with a high risk of terror, kidnapping or mugging.
Skyman May 20th, 2006, 09:29 PM 1Iraq
2Afghanistan
3North Korea
4Manila
5Iran
6Lebanon
7Israel
8Egypt
9Syria
10Saudi
I-275westcoastfl May 20th, 2006, 09:55 PM Basically the Middle East, Africa except for South Africa and Egypt, Parts of Asia and most of South America, oh and Antarctica those penguins are mean sons of bitches :lol: Those are basically places i wouldnt go if it came to safety reasons.
Beiruti May 21st, 2006, 12:29 AM It seems most of you didn't hear me the first time, so I'll repeat myself...
I am sorry but you are very confused about Lebanon. I traveled to Lebanon in 2005 and have gone almost every summer for vacation. It is VERY safe and very western/tourist-friendly. Please reconsider your opinion on the safety of the country. I admit, there have been political problems (but that is true with most democracies) and yes last year Lebanon witnessed a terrible tragedy, however unless you are some very important political figure or journalist you have nothing to worry about. Despite this, there has been no violence in the country so far in 2006 and things are very calm. The minister of tourism is predicting that 1.6 million tourists will come to Lebanon this year. So, if you still think this way I feel very sorry for you because you are missing out greatly.
PS. I urge you to visit the new Lebanon sub-forum!
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Lebanon has one of the lowest violent crime rates in the world! NO ONE will ever even think to mug you or attack you in the streets...locals are very friendly and generous people, they will welcome you into their homes and offer you water if they see you are thirsty!
So stop with the generalizing and stereotyping.
schmidt May 21st, 2006, 12:50 AM Well, I've travelled to Argentina, Uruguay, tons of times to major cities in Brazil and, hey, nothing happened! Thing is, sometimes people from Europe/N.A. call too much attention. They come with those hats and huge backpacks and all. If you take care a little bit and do some research before on where you want to go, I assure you won't have any further problems. I recognize, though, that we must have some extra cautionness in violent cities, like Rio, Mexico City or Cartagena. But I don't think one could exclude an entire country just for one or two cities.
I don't know, maybe that's bullshit for you and maybe I say this because I'm actually used to some violence in my country (not in my city though).
Forza Raalte May 21st, 2006, 01:03 AM It seems most of you didn't hear me the first time, so I'll repeat myself...
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Lebanon has one of the lowest violent crime rates in the world! NO ONE will ever even think to mug you or attack you in the streets...locals are very friendly and generous people, they will welcome you into their homes and offer you water if they see you are thirsty!
So stop with the generalizing and stereotyping.
I'm convinced.
R@ptor May 21st, 2006, 02:10 AM In alphabetical order:
Afghanistan, Angola, Belarus, Bolivia, Colombia, Congo, East Timor, Ethiopia, Haiti, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Ivory Coast, Myanmar, Nigeria, Pakistan, Rwanda, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Venezuela, Yemen
premutos May 21st, 2006, 02:41 AM Europe
I dont wanna get blown up in a terrorist attack or attacked by neo nazis
allan_dude May 21st, 2006, 04:44 AM 1Iraq
2Afghanistan
3North Korea
4Manila
5Iran
6Lebanon
7Israel
8Egypt
9Syria
10Saudi
mabuhay! have you ever been to manila (metro)? :ohno:
allan_dude May 21st, 2006, 05:05 AM oops! lemme change my question: what do you know bout manila? (compare that with other asian cities)
thryve May 21st, 2006, 05:25 AM Any country in which I will be unsafe or miserable because I am a Christian and they have a problem with that.
-thryve
ZimasterX May 21st, 2006, 05:33 AM Any place where there is a civil war, high level of terrorism, or political instability. Of chorse, any place with a dictatorship is not exactly the best place to travel, but I nevertheless wouldn't mind traveling to such places.
allan_dude May 21st, 2006, 05:37 AM well i respect your opinion.
i'm not trying to be smart here, but for your information the Philippines is Asia's largest Christian nation with over 82% of its population following the Roman Catholic faith. think about it?
Zaki May 21st, 2006, 06:53 AM Well if the classic european and north american tourists didn't try so hard to stickout then maybe they wouldn't fear the rest of the world so much. I mean if i went to the US wearing my traditional clothes and carrying whatever i could manage to carry here from my country then some stupid kids would probably see me as an easy target too.
shayan May 21st, 2006, 10:18 AM Hello this thread is not about proving that your country is save, so to Beirut!get over it.
my countries are
Turkmenistan,
Somalia
Iraq,
Congo.
♣628.finst May 21st, 2006, 11:25 AM 1- Virtually the entire Africa and Eastern Europe.
2- Most of Asia and Latin America
3- Southern Europe to lesser extent
NOT because of safety reasons- Quebec, Denmark, Greenland, Saint Pierre et Miquelon and France.
premutos May 21st, 2006, 11:43 AM I dont understand what some of you are doing here
this is a cosmipolitan website dedicated at posting pictures of the world, destroying stereotypes
some of you should stay in your country and never leave and stay narrow minded and ignorant of anything beyond your city limits
delfin_pl May 21st, 2006, 11:56 AM North Korea
Belarus
Russia
Iran
Küsel May 21st, 2006, 12:29 PM North Korea is safe - as long as you follow the rules. Similarities to Singapore ;) I would be careful in both places, but not afraid because of criminality.
1. Chechnia
2. Afghanistan
3. Iraq
4. Shantytowns in Jo'burgh and Favelas in Rio
Anyway I survived the civil war in Algeria, The crisis in Aceh and midnight Rio bus station area, so what! :lol:
S.Yorks Capital May 21st, 2006, 12:30 PM Israel
Captain Chaos May 21st, 2006, 01:32 PM Most have named countries though it doesn't need to be so generalised. Places I won't go?
Grimsby. Name says it all. And it is oop north.
Chernobyl for obvious reasons. Don't care if they think it's safe, wouldn't ever catch me there. Wittenoom for similar reasons
And Armidale. Great chance of being accosted by Bogans.
persian May 21st, 2006, 02:03 PM Colombia is a lot safer than Iran
at least in Colombia they dont cut your head for being gay or women get stoned for cheating on their husbands.
Actually Iran is a lot safer than colombia specially for foreign tourists. At least they don't kidnap foreign tourists like they do in colombia.Just because Iran is developing nuclear energy doesn't mean it is not safe.
shayan May 21st, 2006, 03:13 PM persian dont defend it will F up this thread man..
eklips May 21st, 2006, 03:24 PM 1- Virtually the entire Africa and Eastern Europe.
2- Most of Asia and Latin America
3- Southern Europe to lesser extent
NOT because of safety reasons- Quebec, Denmark, Greenland, Saint Pierre et Miquelon and France.
You don't have much places left to go...
♣628.finst May 21st, 2006, 03:27 PM You don't have much places left to go...
That's not true. North America is HUGE, which is larger than Europe. And I would still visit some parts of Latin America. And, notably Australia is a very interesting and safe place to visit. New Zealand, as well as some parts of Western Europe, also attract my attention.
LtBk May 21st, 2006, 03:28 PM Aside from the suicide bombings(which have stoped), Israel is a very country from what i heard. Ask the Israelis if you don't believe me.
Küsel May 21st, 2006, 03:33 PM Israel may be safe, but it's anyway not a good idea from an ethic point of view to support the appartheit regime by spending the hollidays there... same unfortunatly goes to a lesser limit to the US during Bush government - hope there is finally a change soon. But if you go only after ethics, then there is a lot of places you shouldn't visit :)
♣628.finst May 21st, 2006, 04:03 PM But if you go only after ethics, then there is a lot of places you shouldn't visit :)
Maybe that's why you did not visit Canada (Or Quebec) under Chretien or Martin. ;)
eddyk May 21st, 2006, 04:08 PM The Sun.
I can't think of any place in the world I wouldn't go, because i'd love the experience.
CrazyCanuck May 21st, 2006, 04:13 PM Maybe i'm crazy, but the more dangerous the place, the more alluring it is to me. So the only place I would really not travel would be places i'm not allowed to visit, and the only way of getting there would be to sneak in.
vishalt May 21st, 2006, 04:23 PM I don't intend to go anywhere except for Australia, NZ, Europe, USA, Canada, Singapore & South Korea.
Audiomuse May 21st, 2006, 04:50 PM Well if the classic european and north american tourists didn't try so hard to stickout then maybe they wouldn't fear the rest of the world so much. I mean if i went to the US wearing my traditional clothes and carrying whatever i could manage to carry here from my country then some stupid kids would probably see me as an easy target too.
I agree with you totally. When in Rome do as the Romans do. Try to learn a bit of their language to show respect for their way of life.
Audiomuse May 21st, 2006, 04:52 PM You don't have much places left to go...
Maybe he's a home body. :)
crossbowman May 21st, 2006, 06:10 PM I have been to Israel and Lebanon and actually i didn't feel threatened at all...For me the most dangerous place on earth this moment is Iraq
CrazyCanuck May 21st, 2006, 07:36 PM I agree with you totally. When in Rome do as the Romans do. Try to learn a bit of their language to show respect for their way of life.
I was told that in Mexico, the natives will respect you more if you learn a little Spanish, even only some basic words.
Küsel May 21st, 2006, 11:02 PM Maybe that's why you did not visit Canada (Or Quebec) under Chretien or Martin. ;)
I wish I did... but I am more intersted in BC or Alberta I think - maybe Yukon as well ;)
deëpdïsh May 22nd, 2006, 12:04 AM I was told that in Mexico, the natives will respect you more if you learn a little Spanish, even only some basic words.
mm well.. I don't think the word "respect" is the appropriate in this case.. even if you talk japanese they will respect you, but if you talk spanish they will feel more comfortable, like with ppl that know how's the culture in Mexico
btw i wouldn't go at this time to:
Africa (except some cities of South Africa)
Almost every Middle East (except some cities of Israel)
Sao Paulo, Brazil (for the things that are going on there at this moment)
Some parts of China and Asia
Tubeman May 22nd, 2006, 12:21 AM Africa (except some cities of South Africa)
That's sad. Admittedly some bits of Africa are likely to be a bit 'hairy' like Liberia, but I can assure you that despite the poverty you'll nowhere receive as warm a welcome as in Africa. In fact, I'd think you're probably safer in much of the continent compared to the South African cities.
Personally, there are few places I'd be downright reluctant to go to. I'd probably give Egypt a little thought after the repeated terrorist attacks on tourists, but even then the chances of being involved are minimal.
I never was in any hurry to visit Iraq or Afghanistan...
eklips May 22nd, 2006, 12:34 AM That's not true. North America is HUGE, which is larger than Europe. And I would still visit some parts of Latin America. And, notably Australia is a very interesting and safe place to visit. New Zealand, as well as some parts of Western Europe, also attract my attention.
So appart from places that have european cultures (or close) you won't visit any place in the world?
Sad...
Personnaly there is nowhere in the world that I wouldn't want to go to, exept the obvious Iraq, Afganistan, Soudan, Liberia and maybe Cote d'Ivoire.
Though I would definitly avoid "touristic" places.
Xusein May 22nd, 2006, 12:46 AM For the people who listed Somalia, you don't know what you are missing.
Don't let the media scare you, Somalia is actually a safe place. The killings happening are concentrated in Mogadishu, which is hell on earth. But the rest of the country is moving forward. The northern cities are rapidly modernizing and booming. Hargeisa is probably the safest place I've ever been in my life. Nearly a half mil, and NO murders reported in the whole city.
By saying that you will not visit a country because of safety reasons, when most places are OK, you are just closing your mind.
Not to be hypocritical, I wouldn't go to Iraq, because of a threat of getting caught in the middle of a fight. But not ALL of Iraq is a hellhole either, just Baghdad and the Sunni Triangle.
_zner_ May 22nd, 2006, 06:46 AM iraq, afghanistan and colombia.
Renkinjutsushi May 22nd, 2006, 07:17 AM Iraq, Iran (I'm not covering my head!), Sudan, and maybe East Timor.
Gilgamesh May 22nd, 2006, 08:16 AM I'd go anywhere exept Iraq.
Giorgio May 22nd, 2006, 09:54 AM South Africa - Crime levels are ridiculously high. Also disease.
Israel - too much bad news. atleast the media makes me scared
F-ian May 22nd, 2006, 09:59 AM I bet this Thread is Gonna get Locked :)
Küsel May 22nd, 2006, 10:17 AM Iraq, Iran (I'm not covering my head!), Sudan, and maybe East Timor.
What is wrong with Iran? Don't think the people there are the media stereotypes! I know personally Iranians and also people who travelled that country and believe me: it's not a bunch of extreme islamist Taliban who beat up their wives as certain media wants you to believe. Teheran is a very modern and progressive place and in the pop the US and Europe has a higher reputation than their president, that never will have a chance to get re-elected again (especially because he doesn't have a strict line for home affair politics). There may be laws against rock music and fashion clothes as you might have read - but no one follows that rules because they only exist on paper but not in reality (although the government was threatening recently the pop that they will actually make controls in the future).
No, Iran is DEFINITLY no Iraq or Afghanistan.
Forza Raalte May 22nd, 2006, 10:28 AM Renkinjutsushi is a girl Kuesel. That changes some stuff.
I would definatley visit Iran if I had the chance. It is a GREAT and diverse country. Same for North Korea, a few people who are running the country may be complete idiots but the people are very nice. Actually, I don't think a lot of countries are safer than North Korea.
shayan May 22nd, 2006, 04:31 PM For the people who listed Somalia, you don't know what you are missing.
Don't let the media scare you, Somalia is actually a safe place. The killings happening are concentrated in Mogadishu, which is hell on earth. But the rest of the country is moving forward. The northern cities are rapidly modernizing and booming. Hargeisa is probably the safest place I've ever been in my life. Nearly a half mil, and NO murders reported in the whole city.
By saying that you will not visit a country because of safety reasons, when most places are OK, you are just closing your mind.
Not to be hypocritical, I wouldn't go to Iraq, because of a threat of getting caught in the middle of a fight. But not ALL of Iraq is a hellhole either, just Baghdad and the Sunni Triangle.
I know its sad that people see Somali people like some kind of war loving people who do nothing than killing one a nother, the somali land part is kinda good (in my opinion better than Jemen)
But i wanted to ad a nother country, i dont want to visit Sri lanka at this moment.
Tubeman May 22nd, 2006, 05:38 PM But i wanted to ad a nother country, i dont want to visit Sri lanka at this moment.
Why? I'm going there in July...
Its like saying you wouldn't visit England during the Northern Ireland 'Troubles'... The strife in Sri lanka is largely restricted to the North-East, and foreign tourists are never targets of the LTTE as far as I'm aware.
empersouf May 22nd, 2006, 07:25 PM ^^
Indeed, Sri Lanka is absolute safe.
Places you shouldnt go to, according me:
Iraq (Unless you have a escort of twenty tanks with 200 soldiers)
Everything outside Kabul in Afganistan (Kabul is pretty safe)
Slums in Brazil
The inlands of Columbia
Somalia, it's really not safe there(In fact only Mogadishu si not safe).
Darfur, Sudan(Khartoum is safe)
I think the rest of the world is safe enough to travel too(Yes, there are places where you risk your life(Israel) but the risk isnt so big)
Forza Raalte May 22nd, 2006, 08:44 PM I know its sad that people see Somali people like some kind of war loving people who do nothing than killing one a nother, the somali land part is kinda good (in my opinion better than Jemen)
But i wanted to ad a nother country, i dont want to visit Sri lanka at this moment.
I read some article a few days ago about hundreds of Ethiopian and Somalian people who tried to go to Yemen. They tried to find work in Yemen or even better, in Saudi Arabia. So something is wrong on the opinion of this newspaper and all the people who are leaving Somalia for a better life in Yemen or you are the only one who thinks the quality of live in Somalia is better than in Yemen.
Effer May 22nd, 2006, 08:56 PM -Almost all of Africa.
-Iraq.
-Iran.
-Afganistan.
-Parts of Asia and the Middle East.
:)
shayan May 22nd, 2006, 09:00 PM I read some article a few days ago about hundreds of Ethiopian and Somalian people who tried to go to Yemen. They tried to find work in Yemen or even better, in Saudi Arabia. So something is wrong on the opinion of this newspaper and all the people who are leaving Somalia for a better life in Yemen or you are the only one who thinks the quality of live in Somalia is better than in Yemen.
Did you read what i say? I said Somali land (its the northern part of somalia thats is in relative peace, people are improving there quality of live of there). The problems are in the south with darods and other clangs killing one a nother (i have somali friends and they tell me that the more north you go the more peace you will see in somalia)
premutos May 22nd, 2006, 11:02 PM forza raalte
it would do you good to stop being ignorant and stereotyping countries and peoples based on your narrow minded perspectives
look at your comments!!
I WOULD NEVER GO TO X COUNTRY BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO BE VERY DANGEROUS, it seems to you, you have never been there, nor you know the people from there or anything.
I would suggest they close this thread as is nothing but ignorant and a waste of time
Zaqattaq May 23rd, 2006, 03:53 AM http://www.world66.com/myworld66/visitedCountries/worldmap?visited=HTCOVEBJBFBICFTDKMCGCDDJGQERGAGMGHGWGNCILRMWMLMRNERESNSLSOSDTGUGEHZMZWGEIRIQILJOLBPQSASYYEAFBDKHTPIDKGLAPKLKTJTMUZPG
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vishalt May 23rd, 2006, 04:02 AM Oh I defintely wouldn't go to Indonesia!
It's ridiculous that every Aussie going there is getting caught with drugs and being shot to death.
Tubeman May 23rd, 2006, 04:58 AM http://www.world66.com/myworld66/visitedCountries/worldmap?visited=HTCOVEBJBFBICFTDKMCGCDDJGQERGAGMGHGWGNCILRMWMLMRNERESNSLSOSDTGUGEHZMZWGEIRIQILJOLBPQSASYYEAFBDKHTPIDKGLAPKLKTJTMUZPG
58 countries (26%)
I find it bizarre that you'd go to Nigeria with widespread strife between Muslims and Christians in the north and guerilla activities against the oil industry in the Niger Delta and yet shun stable and prosperous countries like Gabon, Ghana, Gambia and Senegal.
Plus, what's the deal with Cambodia, Laos and Bangladesh? They're all fine from a safety point of view (ok perhaps take waders to Bangladesh during the monsoon).
Zaqattaq May 23rd, 2006, 05:01 AM Nigeria would only be Lagos, no way would I go to the Niger River Delta
Bangladesh is Al-Qaeda's new hidding spot
Cambodia, Laos is a rather conservative concern towards landmines
Effer May 23rd, 2006, 05:12 AM http://www.world66.com/myworld66/visitedCountries/worldmap?visited=HTCOVEBJBFBICFTDKMCGCDDJGQERGAGMGHGWGNCILRMWMLMRNERESNSLSOSDTGUGEHZMZWGEIRIQILJOLBPQSASYYEAFBDKHTPIDKGLAPKLKTJTMUZPG
58 countries (26%)
You've never been to a Western nation? :runaway:
Facial May 23rd, 2006, 05:21 AM There is no place too dangerous for me.
If I am robbed, or if I die, then that is all part of the experience.
PanaManiac May 23rd, 2006, 06:13 AM In a word, IRAQ!
Tubeman May 23rd, 2006, 08:52 AM Nigeria would only be Lagos, no way would I go to the Niger River Delta
Bangladesh is Al-Qaeda's new hidding spot
Cambodia, Laos is a rather conservative concern towards landmines
How could someone with such impeccable taste in football teams talk such crap?
What the hell are you talking about re:Bangladesh? You'd sooner go to Egypt where HUNDREDS of foreign tourists have died in NUMEROUS Islamic extremist attacks in the past decade than Bangladesh? WTF?
If you'd have said you didn't fancy getting flooded then fair enough, but Bangladesh is certainly one of the safer Islamic countries for Westerners.
re: Cambodia and Laos... Were you planning on running through minefields for a laugh? Trust me, nowhere in Cambodia did I see a single 'Danger:landmines' signpost. Nowhere where any tourist is likely to go (Pnomh Penh, Angkor, Siem Reap, Sihanoukville) runs even the slightest risk of treading on a mine unless you fancy trekking through undisturbed jungle. I'd be much more worried by the chaotic traffic and complete absence of any highway code bar beeping your horn furiously and trying to get as many people as physically possible onto a moped. Laos I can't comment on, but some people I met in Cambodia who'd just been there raved about it as an idyllic and mysterious paradise off the beaten track. 'Dangerous' was not a word they used.
I think you've watched 'The Killing Fields' too much or something... Its not 1974 any more :crazy:
♣628.finst May 23rd, 2006, 10:54 AM No, Iran is DEFINITLY no Iraq or Afghanistan.
That's true. some parts of Iran is much better than Iraq or Afghanistan, actually Iran resembles Turkey, which is now a developing country. Though the best part of Iran is obviously around Tehran.
Iran's living standard, from what I have heard is around the level of Romania, China, Venezuela or Turkey.
Balikbayan May 23rd, 2006, 11:41 AM For 25 years I've visited Manila (and most of the Philippines) regularly without any insecure feeling. Also, 4 times been to Israel, really like that country!
Consider unsafe: Moro regions of the Philippines, Iraq, Chechnya, most of Colombia, most of Afghanistan, and practically all of sub-Sahara Africa. Been twice in South Africa - nice place as long as you remain in the touristic places, otherwise quite eerie!
Xusein May 23rd, 2006, 04:55 PM I read some article a few days ago about hundreds of Ethiopian and Somalian people who tried to go to Yemen. They tried to find work in Yemen or even better, in Saudi Arabia. So something is wrong on the opinion of this newspaper and all the people who are leaving Somalia for a better life in Yemen or you are the only one who thinks the quality of live in Somalia is better than in Yemen.
Yeah, you are right actually, people are risking their lives to go to Yemen by boat illegally. Most end up deported back, but the ones who make it either stay in Yemen or go to Oman or Saudi Arabia illegally, some even go to Europe.
But they aren't going for safety really, but to find jobs. While most of Somalia is safe, there is serious unemployment there.
Xusein May 23rd, 2006, 05:03 PM Did you read what i say? I said Somali land (its the northern part of somalia thats is in relative peace, people are improving there quality of live of there). The problems are in the south with darods and other clangs killing one a nother (i have somali friends and they tell me that the more north you go the more peace you will see in somalia)
True totally...the more north and farther you get from Mogadishu (and only parts of that city), the safer it gets...but a non-Somali (especially White) should stay aware of your surroundings anywhere in Somalia/land.
Not because of kidnappings or anything, but because you will be stared at by everyone and they will ask you stupid questions like "what are you doing here?" or "Is America, is it true beautiful women like that are normal?" annoying stuff
Anti-Americanism is not common either, they love American culture, music, and TV...you can get that there. But don't ever talk about Ethiopia, Arabs, or Israel or terrorism there. A heated argument will happen if you do.
Zaqattaq May 24th, 2006, 03:03 AM Wait a few years and I think we will find Bangladesh is a haven for terrorists
Metropolitan May 24th, 2006, 03:33 AM So appart from places that have european cultures (or close) you won't visit any place in the world?
Sad...
Personnaly there is nowhere in the world that I wouldn't want to go to, exept the obvious Iraq, Afganistan, Sudan, Liberia and maybe Cote d'Ivoire.
Though I would definitly avoid "touristic" places.I would personally love to visit Ivory Coast ! Though you're right for French citizens it might be risky and I fully understand you... but still, I guess that if I'd have the opportunity, I would go there.
When I was a kid, I've spent 24 hours in transit in Abidjan on my road to Pointe Noire, Congo. My only remembrance from that day was a view on the district of "Le Plateau" by car on a large avenue near the sea. I've always wished to go back with my grown up eyes. :)
As for North Korea, I don't believe visiting it is risky... however, I would certainly hate it as it's been told foreign visitors can go only in very restricted areas. :(
Tubeman May 24th, 2006, 04:00 AM Wait a few years and I think we will find Bangladesh is a haven for terrorists
Why? Just because its Muslim?
El_Greco May 24th, 2006, 04:14 AM 1- Virtually the entire Africa and Eastern Europe.
2- Most of Asia and Latin America
3- Southern Europe to lesser extent
NOT because of safety reasons- Quebec, Denmark, Greenland, Saint Pierre et Miquelon and France.
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
Zaqattaq May 24th, 2006, 04:36 AM Why? Just because its Muslim?
That really has nothing to do with it, I am just going off of what I have read in respected publications such as Time magazine.
♣628.finst May 24th, 2006, 04:46 AM :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
Actually I did visit some of these countries--- might be I would break such rules in the future, but NOT likely.
Bitxofo May 24th, 2006, 05:03 AM None!
:nono:
I want to visit all countries in the entire world!!
:yes:
Tubeman May 24th, 2006, 05:34 AM That really has nothing to do with it, I am just going off of what I have read in respected publications such as Time magazine.
Such as? This is news to me
Zaqattaq May 24th, 2006, 05:37 AM http://www.time.com/time/asia/magazine/article/0,13673,501021021-364423,00.html
There was also a good program about it on the Discovery/ NY Times channel here
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