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jeremy stephens
May 24th, 2006, 05:16 AM
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With the news of Trump planning to build in Atlanta, I wanted to start a thread to discuss the possible developement, and how it will effect the skyline. Feel free to post news. Enjoy!!!!!!!!!!!! :)

DallasTexan
May 24th, 2006, 05:51 AM
Oh, you haven't seen the rendering that was just released?!

http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/591/3818260000.jpg

panamaboy9016
May 24th, 2006, 05:59 AM
Will that be possibly in ATlanta?

panamaboy9016
May 24th, 2006, 06:00 AM
Looks like the one in Dubai that is being constructed...

I-275westcoastfl
May 24th, 2006, 06:25 AM
^^ It is Dubai buildings are in the backround.

Dale
May 24th, 2006, 06:48 AM
It looks amazingly like Burj Dubai.

Hey, it is Burj Dubai. How in the hell are they going to move it to Atlanta ?

MexAmericanMoose
May 24th, 2006, 06:59 AM
It looks amazingly like Burj Dubai.

Hey, it is Burj Dubai. How in the hell are they going to move it to Atlanta ?

tow truck?

DallasTexan
May 24th, 2006, 08:05 AM
hee hee!

Sa Town Tx Gringo
May 24th, 2006, 08:25 AM
As much as i don't like Atlanta, congrads guys. Im sure you will get one hell of a nice building out of Trump. That will impact the already great skyline alot.

Amd1588
May 24th, 2006, 02:26 PM
Is that a joke?

jeremy stephens
May 24th, 2006, 05:19 PM
Come on you guys, please take the thread seriously. This is to discuss the proposed developement by Donald Tump in Atlanta!!!!!
Trump may build in Atlanta

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Trump may build in Atlanta
Tower plan has condos plus hotel

By JULIE B. HAIRSTON, WALTER WOODS
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Published on: 05/04/06

"Atlanta! You're almost hired!" The Donald may be coming to town.

Donald Trump, the New York real estate tycoon, pizza pitchman and reality TV star, is negotiating with a local developer to build a condo and hotel tower behind the Woodruff Arts Center and High Museum of Art by 2010.

Trump Atlanta, if built, would rise on 2.5 acres between Spring and West Peachtree streets in Midtown, across the street from the Arts Center MARTA station.

Wood Partners, a Marietta-based condo developer, bought the site in March for $21 million. Wood's partner in the deal is Miami-based Dezer Development, said Mark Randall, a director at Wood Partners.

Dezer and Trump have worked together on other condo projects, including the Trump Grande hotel and condo complex on Sunny Isles Beach near Miami.

Randall said the Trump name could end up on the Atlanta project, too.

"It is something we have entertained, but it is not something that we have finalized," Randall said. "We haven't decided if it's something we want to do."

A spokesman for Trump in New York said Wednesday that the project was too preliminary to comment on.

Across interstate from Atlantic Station

The would-be Trump site, at 15th Street, is near a number of high-profile projects, including the Atlanta Symphony Orchestra's proposed hall and 1180 Peachtree, the new mirrored skyscraper at Peachtree and 14th streets. The tower would be just across I-85/75 from Atlantic Station.

Trump, the Big Apple's largest developer, has been shopping for an Atlanta partner, said Marty Kennedy, a local developer and founder of Kennedy Capital Group. Kennedy is a part owner of the former Gold Club site in Buckhead.

Kennedy met with Donald Trump, son Donald Jr. and daughter Ivanka in March to discuss building an Atlanta project.

"They've had their eye on [Atlanta] for some time as the heart of the Southeast," he said.

Trump has been moving aggressively into Southern markets in recent months.

He announced in August the Trump International Hotel & Tower New Orleans, a high-rise project next to the French Quarter. He unveiled plans for a 52-story condo tower in downtown Tampa in January.

With interest rates on the low side and many consumers looking for a more urban lifestyle, Atlanta has seen a wave of high-rise condo projects in the past two years. Locally, more than 16,000 condos sold in 2004, up 30 percent from 2003.

Wood Partners has built several local residential projects, often partnering with Atlanta-based developer Novare Group.

Wood also took the condo tower concept to the metro suburbs last year with a 19-story project on Windy Ridge Parkway in Cobb County.

Trump, a pop culture icon since the 1980s, started his Trump Organization in 1974 and has hotel and condo projects across the country, including Las Vegas and Chicago.

His reality show, "The Apprentice," in which Trump chooses a new employee from a cast of competing candidates, started in 2004.
After months of quiet discussions with local condo developers, New York real estate mogul Donald Trump is set to put his name on Atlanta's skyline.

"I'm going to be doing a job in Atlanta," Trump confirmed to Atlanta Business Chronicle Tuesday. "I can't say much about it now because I don't want to jinx myself."

And then, after a short pause, he said, "but it's going to be big."

Trump said he will develop a project with a local partner, who has already been chosen, but stopped short of giving more details.

Mark Randall, managing director of Wood Partners LLC, said he is in discussions with Trump to build two towers, including a 55-story condominium tower, at the intersection of 15th Street and Spring Street in Midtown.

As Atlanta Business Chronicle reported in April, Wood Partners paid $196 per land square foot ($21.25 million) for 2.4 empty acres at 1240 West Peachtree. The land sits near the former Oakwood Apartment tower, now 1280 West condominiums.

Randall said he was in competition with Miami-based Dezer Development to buy the land. After securing the land, Dezer approached Wood Partners with a joint venture proposal that has led to the discussions with Trump.

Trump, for his part, said details would be available in a month.

For the past six months, Trump's development team has been scouting Atlanta for a site to build a luxury condominium, hotel and retail tower.

Among those who have had discussions with Trump are Dewberry Capital Corp., Kennedy Capital Group LLC, and Wood Partners. Another possible partner is Miami-based The Related Group.

Randall said a second developer is still in active discussions with Trump but feels Wood Partners is close to a deal.

The Related Group recently purchased land in Buckhead and announced plans to build 3,832 condo units.

Trump's projects, including one with The Related Group in Florida, typically have a smaller number of units and are built in more prominent locations than The Related's site at Roxboro and East Paces Ferry roads.

Dewberry does own a prominent location that drew Trump's attention: a full Midtown block at the intersection of 10th and Peachtree streets.

Lara Hodgson, partner with Dewberry Capital, said discussions with Trump were brief and ended with a few telephone calls.

Dewberry is currently developing a speculative office building, Two Peachtree Pointe, in Midtown.

"Our focus is on that right now," Hodgson said.

Marty Kennedy, principal of Kennedy Capital Group, said that his discussions have progressed further than phone calls but not to the point of a deal.

I've had several meetings with them about being a partner," Kennedy said. "I know they're talking to other people. I can't say more than that."

Mark Randall, director of Wood Partners, could not be reached for comment.

Although known mostly for New York developments, Trump has developed projects throughout the world.

While still an active developer, Trump more often licenses his name to a local developer for a fee. Trump's company will oversee the development to maintain certain quality controls but does not manage the project directly.

Trump's towers, often branded as Trump International Hotel & Tower, tend to be the tallest in a city and have a distinctive, opulent architecture.

In Tampa, a local developer broke ground in March on a 52-story Trump Tower. The $260 million project is expected to sell condos starting in the $700,000s and going up to $6.5 million.

In New Orleans, Trump announced a 67-story tower a week before Hurricane Katrina struck. Trump's local partner has vowed to move forward with the $400 million project, with presales expected to begin in May. It will be the tallest building in Louisiana when complete.

In Chicago, Trump is building a 92-story hotel and condo tower near Michigan Avenue and the Chicago River.

In Toronto, Trump has plans for a 70-story tower that will be Canada's tallest residential tower when complete.

Moving into the Atlanta condo market is a practical next step for his company. Atlanta currently has no Trump-branded developments, while New York and Florida have nearly two dozen.

Plus, several local developers are already developing luxury high-rise condominiums, which are Trump's sweet spot.

ATLanta94
May 24th, 2006, 05:32 PM
New Here. Hello everyone. Trump building in Atlanta presents the city with a new caliber of development. Regardless of size or architecture, it will be a great boost for the already happening building boom of DT,MT,and Buckhead. One thing I hope Trump's development entices other developers to build bigger(a few 700's-1000+) scrapers in the near future.

Audiomuse
May 24th, 2006, 06:01 PM
2 towers! How typical of him.

louisianacharm
May 24th, 2006, 06:28 PM
i think i mentioned this before, but dont get to comfortable with trump's developments, because he is well known to shaft cities for publicity, so until the dirt starts flying, i wouldnt get to excited. its ironic that he announced this project right before he was to speak in atlanta. same thing with dallas, he announced a project right before he spoke there which generated a lot of interest.

gwiATLeman
May 24th, 2006, 06:57 PM
^^ And I think someone mentioned to you before that this particular project does not depend Trump.

TexasStar
May 24th, 2006, 07:10 PM
Every city he goes to he promises a Trump Tower.
I'll believe them when I see them.

glenirismt
May 24th, 2006, 07:33 PM
^^ And I think someone mentioned to you before that this particular project does not depend Trump.
The excitement does depend on Trump, that's why this thread was started.

Amd1588
May 24th, 2006, 07:43 PM
Oh, you haven't seen the rendering that was just released?!

http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/591/3818260000.jpg


That doesnt look like it belong in Atlanta......Its out of character.

gwiATLeman
May 24th, 2006, 08:03 PM
The excitement does depend on Trump, that's why this thread was started.

The excitement? Exactly what are you talking about? This story mentioned a project by a local developer that is in negotiations to "brand" it as a Trump Tower. That developer has said that the building will be built with or without a deal with Trump. Trump has nothing to do with it unless he reaches an agreement with this developer to stick his name on the building.

glenirismt
May 24th, 2006, 09:24 PM
The excitement? Exactly what are you talking about? This story mentioned a project by a local developer that is in negotiations to "brand" it as a Trump Tower. That developer has said that the building will be built with or without a deal with Trump. Trump has nothing to do with it unless he reaches an agreement with this developer to stick his name on the building.
From the AJC to the ABC, it always mentions first the Trump name. Also, if the deal does not include Trump, it won't be an ultra luxury condominium tower. So, he does has something to do with the project. His impact will have a strong impact to what kind of developement that would be built.

jeremy stephens
May 24th, 2006, 10:39 PM
What do you guys think the tower will look like, and how tall will it be?

panamaboy9016
May 25th, 2006, 01:44 AM
I mean I know that he is building TRump Ocean Club in Panama City,Panama of 265m...And knowing him with his other nice projects I say it will look nice and it will be ranging from 230m-320m...It would be nice though to see another skyscraper in Atlanta.

jeremy stephens
May 25th, 2006, 04:30 PM
That would be freaken awesome if it was that tall, sooner or later atlanta will finally be one huge skyline, with amazing skyscrapers!!!!

gwiATLeman
May 25th, 2006, 05:18 PM
From the AJC to the ABC, it always mentions first the Trump name. Also, if the deal does not include Trump, it won't be an ultra luxury condominium tower. So, he does has something to do with the project. His impact will have a strong impact to what kind of developement that would be built.

Wrong. The developer specifically said that it WILL NOT be this super-luxury project everyone thinks. That statement leads me to believe a good bit of the particulars of the project including the architeture and height ( 50-60 stories) are already done. The only thing Trump will do is "brand" it a Trump tower. If he does, it will of course give this project more publicity, and if he doesn't, this building will be built anyway and Trump may reach a deal with another developer on another project.

glenirismt
May 25th, 2006, 07:36 PM
Wrong. The developer specifically said that it WILL NOT be this super-luxury project everyone thinks. That statement leads me to believe a good bit of the particulars of the project including the architeture and height ( 50-60 stories) are already done. The only thing Trump will do is "brand" it a Trump tower. If he does, it will of course give this project more publicity, and if he doesn't, this building will be built anyway and Trump may reach a deal with another developer on another project.
Wrong.I have more insight with the project. They are specifically wanting Trump so it can be an luxury project. My uncle is with this company. This a little insiders information.

CusK
May 25th, 2006, 11:22 PM
Wrong.I have more insight with the project. They are specifically wanting Trump so it can be an luxury project. My uncle is with this company. This a little insiders information.
Uncle? So, what the hight then?

gwiATLeman
May 26th, 2006, 06:53 PM
Wrong.I have more insight with the project. They are specifically wanting Trump so it can be an luxury project. My uncle is with this company. This a little insiders information.

:okay: Whatever you say chief.

glenirismt
May 27th, 2006, 03:39 AM
Uncle? So, what the hight then?
He said the preliminary goal is to top 1180.

The Mad Hatter!!
May 27th, 2006, 05:58 PM
I guess you guys dont read very well, the article said wood partners and dezer development are going to the develop the site, and it would be around 50 stories.

here in miami dezer development and trump have supposedly developed a couple of buildings always around 50 stories and they all look like buildings on steriods, you know the huge waterfront condos which hoag all the beach front and are painted white. well anyways my point is that the only role trump plays in it is lending his name to the building for marketing purposes, so in my opinion you guys are getting a bit excited for a project which probably wont exceed 600ft and wont look to good.

panamaboy9016
May 27th, 2006, 07:13 PM
1180 feet?? That is like what 340m?? Oh man that would be amazing!

CusK
May 27th, 2006, 08:50 PM
He said the preliminary goal is to top 1180.
Whoa, cool.

GAtoCA
May 27th, 2006, 10:12 PM
Um, perhaps he meant 1180 Peachtree?

glenirismt
May 28th, 2006, 01:07 AM
Um, perhaps he meant 1180 Peachtree?
Sorry for the confusion, he was talking about 1180 Peachtree. I didn't want to say anything but I can't resist. He also said that there were speculations that he and his son was in talks to build a tower in Buckhead on the magnitude of the tower he is building in Chicago. The idea was to have his name on the tallest tower in one of the most ritziest areas in the southeast. Though he did not know of which developer they were talking to about that project, but he said that was the word was that's been traveling around.

Stratosphere 2020
May 28th, 2006, 02:41 AM
Just what Atlanta needs a Trump ugly duck scraper amongst the beauties. Of all his towers only Trump Chicago is goodlooking...

TexasBoi
May 28th, 2006, 04:39 AM
I like the New Orleans Trump Tower. That deserves mentioning as one of his best. But your point is noted.

panamaboy9016
May 28th, 2006, 08:59 PM
Man that means this one would be taller than 198.1m....So at least it will definitely be over 200m...Awesome! Hope it is in downtown ATlanta so that the skyline looks better!...

CusK
May 28th, 2006, 09:07 PM
Sorry for the confusion, he was talking about 1180 Peachtree.
So it's going to be like 600 feet. That sucks.

panamaboy9016
May 29th, 2006, 03:52 AM
I mean if it was like 800 feet-1000 feet that would be nice...

Ian604
May 29th, 2006, 04:17 AM
Am i hearing this right. Trump Atlanta is only going to be 600 ft???

Dale
May 29th, 2006, 07:17 AM
So, if I've got all this right, it will/will not be a new tallest, and will/will not look good.

louisianacharm
May 29th, 2006, 07:44 AM
Am i hearing this right. Trump Atlanta is only going to be 600 ft???


what a waste of undeveloped land...................

panamaboy9016
May 29th, 2006, 11:41 PM
It really would be a waste of undeveloped land. I mean if it was like 900 feet or even more than our big Bank of America Plaza that would be nice but man only 600ft?? Cheap bastards....Lol...Atlanta has been waiting 14 years for a building taller than 312m...and now Nashville is getting there.. :bash: ACT FAST ATLANTA!!!! :bash: or I will run away from this city!!!!! :runaway:

AubieTurtle
May 30th, 2006, 12:24 AM
If Atlanta is not short on something, it is land. Building a taller building just for the sake of building a taller buildinig is pointless. So what if Nashville builds a taller building? All that means is, well, they have a taller building. It won't have any effect on Atlanta's quality of life. It's funny, it seems like the people who actually live in the city of Atlanta aren't at all concerned about having the tallest building in the South, while it is the folks from the suburbs who want it. The people in the city are more concerned about creating a better quality of life.

Three four hundred foot condo towers will add more to the city than one 1200 footer and two vacant lots (most likely surface parking lots).

These companies do lots of market reseach and know how many people are out there who are willing to buy condos at different price points and what features (such as being 1000 feet up in the air) they want. If the demand is there for super high rise living, it'll get built. But I think we are far away from that.

Perhaps a mixed use tower could be built but in general, tall towers are not required to have a truely great city. Our energy could be better spent on making sure the beltline gets built or that developers aren't able to sneak in street level requirement variances.

jeremy stephens
May 30th, 2006, 03:24 AM
I was just thinking. You guys sre jumping to the conclusion that they are going to build a tower that is only about 600 ft. Have you all ever consiedered that he meant topping 1180 peachtree architecturally, because you guys know, the building has just opened 2 months ago, and in many peoples opinion the best skyscraper in Atlanta. So, maybe he means that he wants to to the nuilding in its elegance, not its height!!!! Keep in mind, we have never heard him say that the building is only going to be 600 ft anyways!!

Dont jump to conclusions!!!!! We just have to wait and see until he gives us the complete details of the tower. Personally, I think the tower wont be no less than 800 ft. Trumps ego is larger than that. He is planning something massive.

TRUST ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

panamaboy9016
May 30th, 2006, 03:58 AM
If Atlanta is not short on something, it is land. Building a taller building just for the sake of building a taller buildinig is pointless. So what if Nashville builds a taller building? All that means is, well, they have a taller building. It won't have any effect on Atlanta's quality of life. It's funny, it seems like the people who actually live in the city of Atlanta aren't at all concerned about having the tallest building in the South, while it is the folks from the suburbs who want it. The people in the city are more concerned about creating a better quality of life.

Three four hundred foot condo towers will add more to the city than one 1200 footer and two vacant lots (most likely surface parking lots).

These companies do lots of market reseach and know how many people are out there who are willing to buy condos at different price points and what features (such as being 1000 feet up in the air) they want. If the demand is there for super high rise living, it'll get built. But I think we are far away from that.

Perhaps a mixed use tower could be built but in general, tall towers are not required to have a truely great city. Our energy could be better spent on making sure the beltline gets built or that developers aren't able to sneak in street level requirement variances.

It's true but I just really would like to see a tall building in Atlanta....That is taller than Bank of America Plaza...

Dale
May 30th, 2006, 05:02 PM
It's true but I just really would like to see a tall building in Atlanta....That is taller than Bank of America Plaza...

No need to apologize. After all, this is SKYSCRAPERcity.com

panamaboy9016
May 30th, 2006, 08:47 PM
No need to apologize. After all, this is SKYSCRAPERcity.com

You're right...

Plasticman
May 31st, 2006, 06:59 PM
It's true but I just really would like to see a tall building in Atlanta....That is taller than Bank of America Plaza...
I would too. Atlanta just needs infill to connect DT and MT and what better way than some infill towers and a 1,200 footer.

And I say more power to Nashville to get a 1,000+ footer. Atlanta just needs the right developer with a vision who is willing to take the risk to fill an actual demand.

Sean in New Orleans
June 4th, 2006, 11:26 PM
I don't see it on his site: www.trump.com

panamaboy9016
June 4th, 2006, 11:38 PM
I would too. Atlanta just needs infill to connect DT and MT and what better way than some infill towers and a 1,200 footer.

And I say more power to Nashville to get a 1,000+ footer. Atlanta just needs the right developer with a vision who is willing to take the risk to fill an actual demand.

Exactly. I mean the Atlanta Tower would've been so amazing but the only problem with it in my own opinion was that it was too large in height to be built in Atlanta.

Colonel Cadillac
July 31st, 2006, 05:57 AM
The circa 1990 Atlanta Tower was one of those 2000ft proposals that pop up occasionally but should not be taken seriously. Even if there was funding and demand for such a thing, the FAA would never allow one within 20 miles of an airport.

gwiATLeman
August 4th, 2006, 04:34 PM
Two Trump towers to rise

New York Real estate mogul Donald Trump has formed a joint venture with Atlanta-based Wood Partners and New York-based Dezer Properties Inc. to build Trump Towers Atlanta - and the first phase should be ready by 2009.

The project at 15th and West Peachtree streets in Midtown, near the Woodruff Arts Center, will feature two high-rise condominium towers, luxury retailers and desintation restaurants.

Phase I will be 48 stories and include 370 units and 20,000 square feet of retail. Prices will range from the $400,000s to more than $1 million.

Phase II is still in design.

Sales should begin by the end of 2006 and construction is expected to start in early 2007.

gwiATLeman
August 4th, 2006, 06:16 PM
Trump Towers Atlanta
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y108/pincfx/Trump.jpg