Ah, the power of Chicago's mighty skyline! Only the headline & photo of Chicago are legible in this image, but that is all you need to get the snafu:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y150/wjcordier/IndependentOnlineEditionTravel.jpg

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They (The Independent (UK)) mistakenly used a photo of Chicago's skyline to advertise a promo to NYC...

stuff like this happens all the time, unfortuantely. i've seen a close-up image of seattle's skuyline used for NYC before as well. the problem is that most people aren't obsessed with this shit like we are, so they figure that any old image of a big city skyline is suitable enough to use as an image for NYC (or any other big city).

the specific problem with this case is that chicago and new york haver very different styles of skylines, when picturesd in their entirety (due in large part to their very different pinnacle skyscrapers, sears and ESB). maybe most folks in england wouldn't catch this mistake, but i have a feeling that most americans know that the sears tower (clearly seen in the picture used) ain't located in NYC.

My initial reaction is to think this person is an idiot. But then when I think about it, I realize he is probably from a different country and the skyline most like NYC's is probably Chicago.

This type of thing happens a lot in movies too. Take for example The In-Laws with Michael Douglas (2003). Towards the end, he was supposed to be inside the Hancock Building eating in the Signature Room. Instead, you can see the Hancock through the window out in the distance. It looks like they were actually in the Sears Tower, but it does seem like there were some authentic shots inside the Hancock mixed in with the scene.

It seems like there is a lot of misinformation out there when it comes to architecture and buildings. Maybe I just know or care more than most people, but I catch a lot of mistakes. It makes me wonder how many other errors there are but I just don't realize it, because I am not very knowledgeable in that subject category.

It's funny. I have this great pictorial book in the Urban Tapestry series (great series, btw) called New York: A State of Mind. I noticed about halfway in that there was a picture of a street scene but the taxis weren't yellow. Why not? Because they somehow slipped a shot of Michigan Avenue in it! I wonder if anyone else ever noticed.

:lol: it will be funny if people thought that was NYC

This type of thing happens a lot in movies too. Take for example The In-Laws with Michael Douglas (2003).
Or like in the car-drop scene of the Blues Brothers, were several Milwaukee skyscrapersare clearly visible in the background.

Yeah, but that's because there weren't any incomplete interchanges in Chi at the time.

This is almost as funny as the scene in Spiderman II when Spidey and Doc OCk start off in NYC and end up on Chicago's elevated. The movie makers have an excuse, They are telling a fictional story. The Independent should be fact checking. In fact this blooper is pretty consistent with the Independent's overall attitude toward truth and fact checking. Generally if the facts fail to fit the Independent's left wing agenda, facts seem to be expendable. Then again maybe the editors just knew Chicago has a better skyline than New York and printed it to make a better looking story.

Generally if the facts fail to fit the Independent's left wing agenda, facts seem to be expendable.
A solid observation applicable to all forms of public media regardless of their ideological bent. Speech confined to the "cave" of scientific nihilism knows no facts only interpretation.

On the special features they said the chose Chicago for some reason... I forgot.

A solid observation applicable to all forms of public media regardless of their ideological bent. Speech confined to the "cave" of scientific nihilism knows no facts only interpretation.

Umm...Frumie...just what the hell is scientific nihilism......the term itself smacks of intellectual hogwash.


It is internally inconsistent, and a logical impossibilty......science by its very nature posits a knowable, and understandable reality......scio in latin means " to know"


meanwhile, nihilism posits the exact opposite....there is no underlying knowable substratum.......



perhaps you can educate me, but scientific nihilism seems like a totally off the cuff, overwrought, heavy handed, intellectual for the sake of being so, type of comment

It's getting closer

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/5318/nychicago3lb.png

Umm...Frumie...just what the hell is scientific nihilism......the term itself smacks of intellectual hogwash.


It is internally inconsistent, and a logical impossibilty......science by its very nature posits a knowable, and understandable reality......scio in latin means " to know"


meanwhile, nihilism posits the exact opposite....there is no underlying knowable substratum.......



perhaps you can educate me, but scientific nihilism seems like a totally off the cuff, overwrought, heavy handed, intellectual for the sake of being so, type of comment

Not so fast there, Forumly. Frumie is referring to the conumdrum of Plato's Cave, from The Republic , and while I can't really expound well on philosophy, I do know that there is such a thing as Scientific Nihilism, eg Nietzsche, and that Plato's Cave is a good baseline for discussions of it. Google "plato cave science nihilism" to get a bit of an overview.

looool, this is great.
Somebody in their research dept will probably get fired soon :D

but i have a feeling that most americans know that the sears tower (clearly seen in the picture used) ain't located in NYC.

not so fast. I was driving into chicago with my girlfriend on I-290. We come over a rise and get our first look at the skyline (best in the world, btw). I say 'look, it's the sears tower' and point at it. My gf quickly pulls out her camera and snaps about five pictures of some random suburban office park mid-rise that had also just come into view :bash: She had no fucking clue whatl I was talking about when I said Sears Tower :lol:

Umm...Frumie...just what the hell is scientific nihilism......the term itself smacks of intellectual hogwash.


It is internally inconsistent, and a logical impossibilty......science by its very nature posits a knowable, and understandable reality......scio in latin means " to know"
That's it exactly, the positing a "knowable reality," works only when reality is empty or nothing. In a posited world speech devolves into either silence of endless chatter, which is just another form of silence. But enough said, back to skyscraper chatter. :)

not so fast. I was driving into chicago with my girlfriend on I-290. We come over a rise and get our first look at the skyline (best in the world, btw). I say 'look, it's the sears tower' and point at it. My gf quickly pulls out her camera and snaps about five pictures of some random suburban office park mid-rise that had also just come into view :bash: She had no fucking clue whatl I was talking about when I said Sears Tower :lol:

Is one of them... this?

http://www.equityoffice.com/images/OAKBROO2_110.jpg

What city is your girl friend from, St. Paul also?

In fact this blooper is pretty consistent with the Independent's overall attitude toward truth and fact checking. Generally if the facts fail to fit the Independent's left wing agenda, facts seem to be expendable.

Care to give an example? Your statement is pretty worthless without some solid examples.

Umm...Frumie...just what the hell is scientific nihilism......the term itself smacks of intellectual hogwash.


It is internally inconsistent, and a logical impossibilty......science by its very nature posits a knowable, and understandable reality......scio in latin means " to know"


meanwhile, nihilism posits the exact opposite....there is no underlying knowable substratum.......



perhaps you can educate me, but scientific nihilism seems like a totally off the cuff, overwrought, heavy handed, intellectual for the sake of being so, type of comment

dont mess with Mr A dude he knows his shit.

Is one of them... this?

http://www.equityoffice.com/images/OAKBROO2_110.jpg

This would be more visible from I-88 not so much from I-290.

dont mess with Mr A dude he knows his shit.
...to say nothing of Shinola; my first ever skatology endorsement. :)

haha

http://www.equityoffice.com/images/OAKBROO2_110.jpg

It may have been that one. And now that I think of it, it may have been on I-88. We were coming in from the west, going through DeKalb and Naperville and those suburbs. I'd know the spot in a second if I saw it....it's the first place that you get a view of the skyline on either 88 or 290. Very dramatic because it stretches forever in two directions :cheers:

And it's not like she's dumb, either. (She does live in St. Paul) I think you'd be surprised at the number of people that don't pay attention to stuff like this. Where we see the Sears Tower or the Hancock or the Aon building....alot of people just think of 'that really, really tall building' and don't bother to know any more about them. I guarantee you that there's a ton of people that live in the U.S. that couldn't tell you the difference between the NY and Chicago skyline (minus the WTC). I mean, for god sakes, what was that recent poll.....35% of people couldn't locate Iraq on a map or something?

Most people in the U.S.A couldn't tell the difference between the Empire State Building and the Chrysler Building. And even in Chicago, many people only know Sears, JHC, Wrigley, and Trib by name. The Aon Building is just "that really tall building that looks like the World Trade Center."

Nath, I think you are talking about Oak Park on 290, that is where the skyline really opens up. But you can actually see the Sears Tower when you are still on 88 somewhere near Downers Grove.

In Chicago, people often get the Hancock and Sears confused because they are both tall, black, and have antennas. Since I am a skyscraper fanatic, I couldn't get these confused in my wildest dreams. But for the normies, I could almost see how it could happen.

John Hancock is a a Slanted Trapizoidish-Rectangular Prism, while a Sears Tower is many Rectangular prisms put together into one base.

It's getting closer

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/5318/nychicago3lb.png


wow cool pic of NYC

^^ That's Chicago!

^^ That's Chicago!

i think it was irony. (irony and subtlety are truly lost forms of humor in american society)

Yeah, any guy from "Northern NJ" who visits this website should be able to identify NYC properly in a shot.

^^

yes it was a joke :D

Yeah, I always forget not everyone is obsessed with skylines and urbanity. I was driving my parents in for the first time after moving here ( they parked way out in the west burbs, cause god forbid they drive in city traffic ) we were driving on 290 and my mom pointed and said very seriously "now....is that one the Sears Tower there???". She was pointing at the Sears Tower (yay), but I of course said something really sarcastic how of COURSE that wasn't the Sears Tower. She didn't think it was very funny, but I realized how a lot of people just don't give a rats ass about stuff like that until they're there, at what point they are actually thinking about it for the first time. While I use to be in awe and obsessed with the "tallest building on earth"....most people probably just think "that's lovely....la la la"

Growing up in Iowa I found a really awesome picture of downtown Des Moines when I was 14 ( I hung it on my bedroom wall, haha, I'm a dork ). Anyway, I took it to work and asked my teachers if they knew what city it was since we lived in Iowa City just an hour and a half east of there. None of them knew what it was, and we were in one of the top ranked schools in Iowa, at the time the top ranked state for eduction. They said things like...Cleveland...Milwaukee, west cost cities....yeah....

i think it was irony. (irony and subtlety are truly lost forms of humor in american society)

^^

yes it was a joke :D

Well you never know, Boston people are pretty stupid! :jk: ;)

i think it was irony. (irony and subtlety are truly lost forms of humor in american society)
Are we the world's dolts? Is your resigned observation true everywhere in American society? Are you suggesting these refinements are to be found in non-American societies elsewhere?