Ivan Drago
May 21st, 2006, 09:07 PM
I wasn't trolling - it was a genuine question that I wanted to know the answer to.
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View Full Version : LONDON - Emirates Stadium (60,362) Ivan Drago May 21st, 2006, 09:07 PM I wasn't trolling - it was a genuine question that I wanted to know the answer to. Its AlL gUUd May 21st, 2006, 09:09 PM well i wouldn't call highbury intimidating, but i am sure Emirates will have 'soul' as long as the arsenal fans can fill it James21 May 21st, 2006, 09:25 PM I think it could actually be more inimidating, the stands will be as close to the pitch as possible and being completely filled with a sloping roof the atmosohere should be excellent, rather than at highbury where the sounds just dissapers! I think given time it will be excellent, I think if u look at that pic of henry on the pitch it is going to be quite imposing. As for filling it it is clearly not going to be a problem, they have now sold out the season tickets and have thousands still on the waiting list. I wouldnt be suprised if they didnt sell all the club level seats, although even then there will only be maybe 100 left, and actually as it gets closer im willing to bet people on the season ticket waiting list will consider it, i know my dad has thought about it rather than waiting. Fillet Tower May 21st, 2006, 09:50 PM well i wouldn't call highbury intimidating, but i am sure Emirates will have 'soul' as long as the arsenal fans can fill it When I say intimidating, I mean the fact that the crowd are so close to the pitch. Having people shouting at you at just an arm's length away must be quite intimidating for most. The East and West stands of Highbury must feel like they are almost on top of the players. I'm sure it often helps in European competition, mainly against latin teams, as most never experience the closeness due to running tracks, fences, etc. At the Emirates the tracks are quite a bit wider and the stands further away. James21 May 21st, 2006, 10:14 PM this is nice, from a while ago but gives you an idea of scale etc http://media.putfile.com/New-Arsenal-Stadium 2005 May 21st, 2006, 10:21 PM well to be fair whoever made that list is clearly a bit of a joker, stadium of light 3rd? white hart lane 10th, celtic, which we all know to be a horrible stadium in there! I think thats a wind up. Anyway you were clearly trying to insinuate that it was arsenals fault it wasnt 5*, when that was an impossibility, what do u want to do go back 80yrs and blame them for picking the wrong site?? Anyway the important thing is that the emirates stadium is going to be, outside wembley, by far and away the best ground in the country, with the best facilities for everyone, as well as making a large amount of money for the club. Well to be fair whoever made that list has a different opinion to you shame you couldn't see that. mauritius gunner May 21st, 2006, 11:09 PM We can do that here because almost every other poster seems determined to compare every other stadium to Ibrox. Check - theres loads of them doing it! No, every other poster is YOU!!! I think you need to get out more.... Coventry Nutter May 21st, 2006, 11:23 PM That is because, you need a ground capacity of near 50,000+ to qualify for UEFA 5 star status. Highbury's capacity meant that this wasn't possible, nothing to do with the quality of stands or the facilities which were already first class. Don't knock Highbury, it is already universally recognised as a supurb stadium. Irrespective of what you may think Bubomb/Socrates/Ivan the Terrible or whatever you choose to call yourself these days. I know its you because you fell for my 'Ibrox' bait I'm afraid the only people who rate Highbury as a great stadium are Arsenal fans. The proof that it is not a great/classic stadium is the fact that it no longer exists!! Classic stadiums evolve over decades, poor stadiums get turned into flats and the owners move on. Highbury is a classic example of bad stadium design. The 'Clock end' is a pathetic stand. They had enough room to build a huge 'Holte end' style stand (13500), but instead built a pathetic 6000 stand??? Look at the pics - loads of room, but wasted by some kind of daft huge hall behind the stand. The two classic east/west stands were also neglected with no attempt to bring them up-to-date. They could have done what Rangers done with their main stand, but I guess Arsenal are not a club with much history, passion or tradition. This was seen by their pathetic away supports on route to the Champions League final, and the absolutely disgraceful attempt at a support in a Champions League final. They just sat in their seats for 90 minutes as quiet as mice.....do they have any traditional club songs at all?? They were even winning for 75 minutes!!!! If that was Rangers, there would of been at least 100000 in Paris and the stadium would of been a cauldron of noise, songs, flags and banners. Your average Arsenal fan is a perfect example of the new 'trendy' fans who have latched on to football. Arsenal have about 4000 genuine hardcore supporters, and 56000 part-time/glory hunters who now like football as it's the 'in thing'. I am still shocked that their away support was 2000 for a Champions League semi-final!!!! Rangers took 20000 to Villareal for a last 16 game!! Hearts took 4000 to Basle for a UEFA Cup group game!! Hibs took 1500 to an unknown Ukrainian city (Dnipropetrovsk) for a UEFA Cup first round game!! That's almost the same number as Arsenal took to a Champions League semi-final!!! What a joke! Arsenal a big club? - you're havin a laugh. Even Hibs have a far larger travelling away support! I've heard Arsenal fans make excuses for the 2000 away support, but such a tiny support for such a huge game is inexcusable!! A few days later, Rangers took 14000 to Derby for a friendly!! Now that's a real support!! As for Highbury being compared to Ibrox??? Grow up. I have yet to meet anyone who has been to both stadiums and classed Highbury as better. Look at the forum below (an England fan forum), Ibrox is constantly mentioned as the best club stadium in Britain. Same goes for the footballgroundguide.co.uk forums. In fact, the main stand at Ibrox won 'best stand in Britain' on that forum. http://boards.footymad.net/mboard/fmb.php?tno=683&fid=281&sty=2&act=1&mid=2136814385 Arsenal may have a lot of money, but they are an entertainment product, not a way of life. They are the PSP of football. There is nothing big about them, they are just a play thing for bored people with money to enjoy and a fashionable product for millions of mickey mouse fans to use as their latest fad! http://www.arsenalamerica.com/graphics/highbury.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/27/Arsenal_Stadium_interior_Clock_End.jpg/300px-Arsenal_Stadium_interior_Clock_End.jpg and isn't it ironic that the people accusing 'Socrates' of being Bubomb and calling him stupid, are in fact too thick to even realise that Socrates is not Bubomb!!! You've got to laugh at these poor misguided souls!! Must be a London thing!! tv123 May 21st, 2006, 11:31 PM you have less than 30-50posts so you are socrates go away Coventry Nutter May 21st, 2006, 11:32 PM No, every other poster is YOU!!! I think you need to get out more.... hmmm, this is what you posted This is a HOK stadium, designed and made by the best stadium planners in the world. Unlike Ibrox, Socrates. we also have from other posters er....I dunno if you've failed to notice the aesthetic merits of your own stadium, but its few and far between; all this veneration of Ibrox is wasted flannel; its a rather non-descript red brick post-industrial facade with 3 very neglected cumbersome sheds. Yes the interior of Archibald Leitch's stand is very beautiful, the exterior though is mediocre; infact Leitch is rather overated on these forums by a certain few. Lets not forget that Arsenal demolished his parochial vision of mass spectatorship with something far more elegant and progressive. hmm...disrepair eh? can you qualify that statement in any way without obviously resorting to your usual crass pictograms? but I guess you can't reason with a geeky 15 yr old, and even less when the geek is probably over 30! a sh*thole within the bigger sh*thole that is glasgow. Oh and Rangers play football there, and we all know they are pretty sh*t Oh dear god, Mo how often u visit this stadium forum? & you dont know wat the Ibrox is, at least 90% of each thread has pics of the ibrox. whats ibrox? It is quite amazing how obsessed the posters on this forum are with Ibrox!! Here is a hint pee brains, if you don't want to hear about Ibrox, then stop talking about it!! Will any of you grow a brain, or will you continue to talk about Ibrox? Let's see....... James21 May 21st, 2006, 11:35 PM :applause: :applause: :applause: I think that has to be the best post we have ever had, i actually haven't laughed that much in a long time, thankyou!! I especially liked the way you worked yourself up into a little frenzy, were we a bit angry by the end?!! There isnt really a way to answer such a pile of crap, and im sure what you really want me to do is answer it so i wont. Safe to say 50,000 arsenal fans in paris, sung our hearts out, maybe you just couldnt hear because you and all your glaswegian buddies have been deafened in the fshipyards? But anyway thanks again, that was a real laugh! Coventry Nutter May 21st, 2006, 11:37 PM you have less than 30-50posts so you are socrates go away You couldn't make this up!! We have another live moron!! Do you know 2.5 million people live in central Scotalnd? Do you think only one or two have internet access? Do you practice at being thick? This forum has been mentioned on numerous very popular football fan forums for Scottish teams. There will be lots of Glasgow based posters on the site. Coventry Nutter May 21st, 2006, 11:39 PM :applause: :applause: :applause: I think that has to be the best post we have ever had, i actually haven't laughed that much in a long time, thankyou!! I especially liked the way you worked yourself up into a little frenzy, were we a bit angry by the end?!! There isnt really a way to answer such a pile of crap, and im sure what you really want me to do is answer it so i wont. Safe to say 50,000 arsenal fans in paris, sung our hearts out, maybe you just couldnt hear because you and all your glaswegian buddies have been deafened in the fshipyards? But anyway thanks again, that was a real laugh! No, my hearing is fine, as all I heard was Barcelona fans during the 90 minutes. What a shite support Arsenal have if that's the most noise 40000 of them can make. What a joke of a club!!! Thank god you lost, as a club like that should never be allowed to win Europes top trophy. Do Arsenal have any traditional club songs? As I honestly did not hear one proper song. Mo Rush May 21st, 2006, 11:43 PM of course i know what ibrox is...was just kidding..trying to piss off whoever actually likes that excuse for a stadium lol.. Coventry Nutter May 21st, 2006, 11:45 PM Well, you have a hell of a lot of England fans to piss off - http://boards.footymad.net/mboard/fmb.php?tno=683&fid=281&sty=2&act=1&mid=2136814385 tv123 May 21st, 2006, 11:46 PM Do you know 2.5 million people live in central Scotalnd? Do you think only one or two have internet access? im hungarian,i have not any reason to hate the scottish people(yet).i just know you are socrates :sleepy: Coventry Nutter May 21st, 2006, 11:48 PM im hungarian,i have not any reason to hate the scottish people(yet).i just know you are socrates :sleepy: but i'm not, which makes it all the more funnier!! I'm going back to Budapest in July. Great city, loved the Szechenyi spa. And most the women are lovely with huge fun balloons!! Fantastic, I would eat their arses out!! 2005 May 22nd, 2006, 12:27 AM I liked Highbury as a stadium but I totally agree with what Coventry Nutter said about the clock end and how it is a complete and utter waste of space. I've said before that I prefer the Highbury before the shoddy modern developments. One thing that Arse fans need to start doing is SINGING!!! I agree with what CN said when he/she was talking about how Arsenal bearly sang during the final. I was shell shocked to hardly hear anything from the arse. Also lately we've had people talking about Henry signing. I'm happy hes stayed as its good for the prem and I wanted him to stay because of something else. I read how loyal he is yet if hes so loyal why did it take so long to sign that contract? I think it is all to do with being biased. I'm biased towards Tottenham some times, Roar is biased to the arse, Bubomb/whatever else is biased to Rangers etc. I think that the goons on this site that went on about Highbury being so great said so because they have great memorys there but love the design and that love is increased further by the fact that it was the home of their club for many years. I think that Emirates is a great design but my problem with the stadium is that it is well and truly introducing the game to prawn sandwich brigade. Instead of rewarding the loyals goons AFC have tried their best to get new fans that want to pay stupid amounts to watch a team for every home game of the season. Sadly this is going to happen to other clubs that have a large & loyal fanbase. asdfg May 22nd, 2006, 12:34 AM Highbury is a dump. I really hate "old style" British stadia. Their box-like style is so dull and Highbury is a particularly bad example of it. However Emirates is fucking superb. Looks like a cracker. Its AlL gUUd May 22nd, 2006, 12:43 AM Just to let everyone know Coventry Nutter is not Socrates, why can't people tell the difference! Coventry Nutter May 22nd, 2006, 12:45 AM because they have small brains!! Ivan Drago May 22nd, 2006, 12:50 AM Highbury is a dump. I really hate "old style" British stadia. Their box-like style is so dull and Highbury is a particularly bad example of it. However Emirates is fucking superb. Looks like a cracker. http://www.starsdufoot.com/images/Ash.jpg = http://www.chamber.london.on.ca/graphics/cracker1.gif :weirdo: tv123 May 22nd, 2006, 12:51 AM Just to let everyone know Coventry Nutter is not Socrates, why can't people tell the difference! http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=352778 Covenry Nutter - "Berlin is much better than Hampden, and slightly better than Ibrox." not socrates? he must be socrates twin Coventry Nutter May 22nd, 2006, 12:53 AM http://www.etravelphotos.com/england/photos/2005uk-0917-009d-w.jpg = http://www.p2ptv.co.uk/images/donkey/cracker.jpg :weirdo: Its AlL gUUd May 22nd, 2006, 12:53 AM because they have small brains!! speaking of which............. Coventry Nutter May 22nd, 2006, 12:54 AM http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=352778 Covenry Nutter - "Berlin is much better than Hampden, and slightly better than Ibrox." not socrates? he must be socrates twin Yes, you are right, Rangers have an average attendance of 1. Ivan Drago May 22nd, 2006, 12:55 AM http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=352778 Covenry Nutter - "Berlin is much better than Hampden, and slightly better than Ibrox." not socrates? he must be socrates twin Except I would never say that, because both Ibrox and Hampden are clearly better than that dump in Berlin. The lad from Coventry is obviously a nutter. Ivan Drago May 22nd, 2006, 12:56 AM because they have small brains!! speaking of which............. Don't put yourself down like that! Its AlL gUUd May 22nd, 2006, 12:57 AM Except I would never say that, because both Ibrox and Hampden are clearly better than that dump in Berlin. The lad from Coventry is obviously a nutter. well we all know that certain guy is a nutter, because he keeps coming bacck with his same old crap Ivan Drago May 22nd, 2006, 12:58 AM http://www.etravelphotos.com/england/photos/2005uk-0917-009d-w.jpg = http://www.p2ptv.co.uk/images/donkey/cracker.jpg :weirdo: Heres what Emirates really looks like http://www.joeschmidt.com/img/ritz-cracker.jpg Its AlL gUUd May 22nd, 2006, 12:58 AM Don't put yourself down like that! i hope your referring to bubo err coventry nutter Coventry Nutter May 22nd, 2006, 01:00 AM no, he meant you. asdfg May 22nd, 2006, 01:01 AM Heres what Emirates really looks like http://www.joeschmidt.com/img/ritz-cracker.jpg I'm sure you'll agree it looks much better than the old-style box stadiums that the UK is infested with: http://www.jimcarson.com/life/lifesample.jpg Coventry Nutter May 22nd, 2006, 01:02 AM The new Arsenal stadium - http://www.celebrity-pictures-world.com/pics/m/melissa-george/melissa-george-008.jpg Its AlL gUUd May 22nd, 2006, 01:03 AM I'm sure you'll agree it looks much better than the old-style box stadiums that the UK is infested with: http://www.jimcarson.com/life/lifesample.jpg I agree these old styled stadiums with four bog standard stands are out of date now, only with some exceptions of course chester84 May 22nd, 2006, 09:35 AM I'm afraid the only people who rate Highbury as a great stadium are Arsenal fans. The proof that it is not a great/classic stadium is the fact that it no longer exists!! Classic stadiums evolve over decades, poor stadiums get turned into flats and the owners move on. Highbury is a classic example of bad stadium design. The 'Clock end' is a pathetic stand. They had enough room to build a huge 'Holte end' style stand (13500), but instead built a pathetic 6000 stand??? Look at the pics - loads of room, but wasted by some kind of daft huge hall behind the stand. The two classic east/west stands were also neglected with no attempt to bring them up-to-date. They could have done what Rangers done with their main stand, but I guess Arsenal are not a club with much history, passion or tradition. This was seen by their pathetic away supports on route to the Champions League final, and the absolutely disgraceful attempt at a support in a Champions League final. They just sat in their seats for 90 minutes as quiet as mice.....do they have any traditional club songs at all?? They were even winning for 75 minutes!!!! If that was Rangers, there would of been at least 100000 in Paris and the stadium would of been a cauldron of noise, songs, flags and banners. Your average Arsenal fan is a perfect example of the new 'trendy' fans who have latched on to football. Arsenal have about 4000 genuine hardcore supporters, and 56000 part-time/glory hunters who now like football as it's the 'in thing'. I am still shocked that their away support was 2000 for a Champions League semi-final!!!! Rangers took 20000 to Villareal for a last 16 game!! Hearts took 4000 to Basle for a UEFA Cup group game!! Hibs took 1500 to an unknown Ukrainian city (Dnipropetrovsk) for a UEFA Cup first round game!! That's almost the same number as Arsenal took to a Champions League semi-final!!! What a joke! Arsenal a big club? - you're havin a laugh. Even Hibs have a far larger travelling away support! I've heard Arsenal fans make excuses for the 2000 away support, but such a tiny support for such a huge game is inexcusable!! A few days later, Rangers took 14000 to Derby for a friendly!! Now that's a real support!! As for Highbury being compared to Ibrox??? Grow up. I have yet to meet anyone who has been to both stadiums and classed Highbury as better. Look at the forum below (an England fan forum), Ibrox is constantly mentioned as the best club stadium in Britain. Same goes for the footballgroundguide.co.uk forums. In fact, the main stand at Ibrox won 'best stand in Britain' on that forum. http://boards.footymad.net/mboard/fmb.php?tno=683&fid=281&sty=2&act=1&mid=2136814385 Arsenal may have a lot of money, but they are an entertainment product, not a way of life. They are the PSP of football. There is nothing big about them, they are just a play thing for bored people with money to enjoy and a fashionable product for millions of mickey mouse fans to use as their latest fad! http://www.arsenalamerica.com/graphics/highbury.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/27/Arsenal_Stadium_interior_Clock_End.jpg/300px-Arsenal_Stadium_interior_Clock_End.jpg and isn't it ironic that the people accusing 'Socrates' of being Bubomb and calling him stupid, are in fact too thick to even realise that Socrates is not Bubomb!!! You've got to laugh at these poor misguided souls!! Must be a London thing!! What is your problem? You start off by making some valids points about the clock end that i strongly agree with you on, then you go off on a tangent and start laying into a football club. you're wasting your breath/fingers bubomb talking that crap on here. JOBINHO May 22nd, 2006, 05:08 PM This stadium is looking awsome. The comparrison with La Luz is justified but i feel this stadium has more class about it. Roar May 22nd, 2006, 08:01 PM As with Season Tickets, corporate boxes are sold out and club level seating has only 450 seats left. Bubomb. As a person of English/Irish decent I have to say I would find it very embarrasing to wear either a Celtic or Rangers jersey. Both are sectarian and (racist towards each other) and have nothing to do with football, just hate for each other. Your refereces to Villareal indicate your bitterness of your teams failure to pass the "last 16" while we strolled into the Final past them to pick upa cool £30 Million in prize money. I therefore take delight in Rangers plight into the Uefa baby cup and would most certainly like to send Ireland FC into the Uefa cup if we meet them in the group stages. If they are Irish why not go back to Ireland, an Irish team has no place in Scotland. 2005 May 22nd, 2006, 08:10 PM As with Season Tickets, corporate boxes are sold out and club level seating has only 450 seats left. Bubomb. As a person of English/Irish decent I have to say I would find it very embarrasing to wear either a Celtic or Rangers jersey. Both are sectarian and (racist towards each other) and have nothing to do with football, just hate for each other. Your refereces to Villareal indicate your bitterness of your teams failure to pass the "last 16" while we strolled into the Final past them to pick upa cool £30 Million in prize money. I therefore take delight in Rangers plight into the Uefa baby cup and would most certainly like to send Ireland FC into the Uefa cup if we meet them in the group stages. If they are Irish why not go back to Ireland, an Irish team has no place in Scotland. Calm down. Roar Arsenal aren't in the CL yet. Remember you have to go through the qualying stages. I totally agree with what you said about Celtic Rangers. :applause: :applause And thanks for answering my question about how many Club Level seats and boxes are left. asdfg May 22nd, 2006, 08:11 PM As with Season Tickets, corporate boxes are sold out and club level seating has only 450 seats left. Bubomb. As a person of English/Irish decent I have to say I would find it very embarrasing to wear either a Celtic or Rangers jersey. Both are sectarian and (racist towards each other) and have nothing to do with football, just hate for each other. Your refereces to Villareal indicate your bitterness of your teams failure to pass the "last 16" while we strolled into the Final past them to pick upa cool £30 Million in prize money. I therefore take delight in Rangers plight into the Uefa baby cup and would most certainly like to send Ireland FC into the Uefa cup if we meet them in the group stages. If they are Irish why not go back to Ireland, an Irish team has no place in Scotland. Celtic aren't Irish and don't want to be Irish you ignorant prick. I am a British, Scottish Celtic fan, as are most Celtic fans. The club plays in Scotland, the vast majority of the fans are from Scotland, and happy to be Scottish. Roar May 22nd, 2006, 09:04 PM Calm down. Roar Arsenal aren't in the CL yet. Remember you have to go through the qualying stages. I totally agree with what you said about Celtic Rangers. :applause: :applause And thanks for answering my question about how many Club Level seats and boxes are left. Reminds me, just hope we make it past qualifiers. Enjoy Uefa Cup Tottenham, I actually mean it as although it may only be the UEFA Cup it is your first go at Europe in a while, the best thing about Europe is that it is great to enjoy football outside storylines within the domestic story of your season. Roar May 22nd, 2006, 09:08 PM Celtic aren't Irish and don't want to be Irish you ignorant prick. I am a British, Scottish Celtic fan, as are most Celtic fans. The club plays in Scotland, the vast majority of the fans are from Scotland, and happy to be Scottish. Alright maybe I went a bit overboard about the whole thing. Coventry Nutter May 22nd, 2006, 11:17 PM Celtic aren't Irish and don't want to be Irish you ignorant prick. I am a British, Scottish Celtic fan, as are most Celtic fans. The club plays in Scotland, the vast majority of the fans are from Scotland, and happy to be Scottish. Yes, you really are a Scottish/British club - Billy McNeil, ex Celtic captain of the Lisbon Lions - "Celtic are an Irish club playing in Scotland" Celtic are the only club in the UK who do not fly a British flag at their stadium. Celtic fans in Manchester for Roy Keane's testimonial (shocking footage)- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUJqPET97m4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bc-ZDGBI4yU http://img52.exs.cx/img52/9543/seville.jpg http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/2927/image0019db.jpg Compare and contrast timmy, compare and contast - http://gersnet.info/fmrangers/blueorder/images/intercard/10.jpg http://www.rangersmedia.com/album/dcrsc/photo16.jpg http://www.rangersmedia.com/album/p600jul050021089ti.jpg http://gersnet.info/fmrangers/blueorder/images/intercard/14.jpg http://www.rangersmedia.com/album/album4/sl.jpg http://www.rangersmedia.com/album/album4/villarreal1.jpg http://www.rangersmedia.com/album/album6/pict0007.jpg http://www.rangersmedia.com/album/album4/wearethe1.jpg http://www.rangersmedia.com/album/album4/keepglasgow.jpg http://www.rangersmedia.com/album/jockwallacebanner.jpg http://www.beepworld.de/memberdateien/members34/viennatrueblues/vtbneuefahneklein3.jpg http://www.geocities.com/mexicorsc/RaRaR.gif http://mitglied.lycos.de/Eastgers/pics/utrecht.jpg http://members.lycos.co.uk/dublinrangers/images/dam.jpg http://mitglied.lycos.de/Eastgers/pics/cis3.jpg http://mitglied.lycos.de/Eastgers/pics/5.jpg and the very best - Baku Bears (Azerbaijan) http://www.bakubears.az/images/summer.jpg http://www.bakubears.az/ Ivan Drago May 22nd, 2006, 11:26 PM Celtic fans in Manchester for Roy Keane's testimonial (shocking footage)- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUJqPET97m4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bc-ZDGBI4yU Truly appalling footage. Celtic fans everywhere should hang their heads in shame. Are there any depths to which this dispicable club or its ghastly "supporters" will not plunge? tv123 May 22nd, 2006, 11:31 PM im glad the stadium is nearly completed 2005 May 22nd, 2006, 11:47 PM Reminds me, just hope we make it past qualifiers. Enjoy Uefa Cup Tottenham, I actually mean it as although it may only be the UEFA Cup it is your first go at Europe in a while, the best thing about Europe is that it is great to enjoy football outside storylines within the domestic story of your season. Thanks man. Very confident that we can move into the CL after this season shal wait and see. Congrats on signing Rosicky good player. easysurfer May 23rd, 2006, 12:12 AM Celtic fans in Manchester for Roy Keane's testimonial (shocking footage)- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUJqPET97m4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bc-ZDGBI4yU Truly appalling footage. Celtic fans everywhere should hang their heads in shame. Are there any depths to which this dispicable club or its ghastly "supporters" will not plunge? What has this got to do with the emirates stadium? Normally i am quite tolerant but can somebody try to ban this loser for good? All you try to do is cause aggrovation and stir up trouble between different groups. Don't you depress yourself with all the bitterness you hold inside, you must be such a miserable person to be around. We don't want a biggoted half-wit ruining the threads for the decent majority who would like the forums to remain friendly. We already know there are some idiots amongst the Rangers and Celtic fanbase who want to cause division. All you seemingly want to do is increase these divisions and provoke people into arguement. This will be my only reply to such a sad individual. :sleepy: Its AlL gUUd May 23rd, 2006, 12:17 AM Please my scottish chum's don't bring the old firm rivalry (especially ur pics bubomb) into the emirates thread, although that footage is rather disturbing and that Keep Glasgow tidy poster is hilarious. please no more oldfirm rivalry on here, you two really let yourselves down when you are like this, i am very dissapointed in you :sleepy: Coventry Nutter May 23rd, 2006, 12:20 AM What has this got to do with the emirates stadium? Normally i am quite tolerant but can somebody try to ban this loser for good? All you try to do is cause aggrovation and stir up trouble between different groups. Don't you depress yourself with all the bitterness you hold inside, you must be such a miserable person to be around. We don't want a biggoted half-wit ruining the threads for the decent majority who would like the forums to remain friendly. We already know there are some idiots amongst the Rangers and Celtic fanbase who want to cause division. All you seemingly want to do is increase these divisions and provoke people into arguement. This will be my only reply to such a sad individual. :sleepy: I wouldn't post it if people like you didn't reply to it!!! You fuel me!! and it was in reply to celtic fan who claimed celtic were a 'Scottish' club!! So your beef should be with him, as he started the non emirates chit chat. In fact, even he was replying to a arsenal fan who took the thread off topic by saying celtic were not Scottish, so your beef is with the arsenal fan!!! Do you understand, or do I have to type more slowly? Ivan Drago May 23rd, 2006, 12:21 AM Actually I think it was Roar who started the off topic stuff - so you should be disappointed in him. Ivan Drago May 23rd, 2006, 12:22 AM What has this got to do with the emirates stadium? Normally i am quite tolerant but can somebody try to ban this loser for good? All you try to do is cause aggrovation and stir up trouble between different groups. Don't you depress yourself with all the bitterness you hold inside, you must be such a miserable person to be around. We don't want a biggoted half-wit ruining the threads for the decent majority who would like the forums to remain friendly. We already know there are some idiots amongst the Rangers and Celtic fanbase who want to cause division. All you seemingly want to do is increase these divisions and provoke people into arguement. This will be my only reply to such a sad individual. :sleepy: I was quoting someone else you nonce. Its AlL gUUd May 23rd, 2006, 12:24 AM but why keep posting those pics? Coventry Nutter May 23rd, 2006, 12:27 AM Please my scottish chum's don't bring the old firm rivalry (especially ur pics bubomb) into the emirates thread, although that footage is rather disturbing and that Keep Glasgow tidy poster is hilarious. please no more oldfirm rivalry on here, you two really let yourselves down when you are like this, i am very dissapointed in you :sleepy: blame 'roar', he started it!! Ivan Drago May 23rd, 2006, 12:28 AM I didnt post any pics in this thread eddyk May 23rd, 2006, 12:30 AM To quote yourself bubomb 'Don't you have no will power?' If someone annoys you....leave it. P.S Quit trying to pass the blame, be a man. Its AlL gUUd May 23rd, 2006, 12:30 AM I didnt post any pics in this thread obviously it wasn't directed at you, i thought you would be able to figure that out, guess i was wrong Coventry Nutter May 23rd, 2006, 12:31 AM To quote yourself bubomb 'Don't you have no will power?' If someone annoys you....leave it. P.S Quit trying to pass the blame, be a man. Yes, I must try harder!! who's bubomb? Ivan Drago May 23rd, 2006, 12:32 AM obviously it wasn't directed at you, i thought you would be able to figure that out, guess i was wrong I was being needlessly aggressive, and should have counted to 10 before posting. [But it wasn't obvious who it was directed at] Its AlL gUUd May 23rd, 2006, 12:35 AM It wasn't fairlu obvious you fool. You didn't quote anyone, and your post came in the middle of losts of posts. How would anyone be able to figure out who you were talking to? You were not only wrong, but you were extremely foolish. gosh you really are agressive tonight, did something happen? Ivan Drago May 23rd, 2006, 12:36 AM Apologies, long day. Splitting headache. I'll retract that easysurfer May 23rd, 2006, 12:40 AM Mmmm since i've decided not to respond personally to any nationalistic morons, i'll state my point for the benefit of those whose intelligence stretches beyond that of a wild bore. No thats underestimating the beast, it has to be more civilised. Very slowly now, i need to be careful to make sure you understand. What has YOUR RESPONSE got to do with the emirates stadium? I do hope you understand as it's difficult enough trying to explain how mis-guided you are in the first place. zee May 23rd, 2006, 12:40 AM think we need to close this thread and open part 5 asdfg May 23rd, 2006, 12:43 AM think we need to close this thread and open part 5 Yes, another thread ruined by Bubomb and Socrates. Ivan Drago May 23rd, 2006, 12:45 AM Mmmm since i've decided not to respond personally to any nationalistic morons, i'll state my point for the benefit of those whose intelligence stretches beyond that of a wild bore. No thats underestimating the beast, it has to be more civilised. Very slowly now, i need to be careful to make sure you understand. What has YOUR RESPONSE got to do with the emirates stadium? I do hope you understand as it's difficult enough trying to explain how mis-guided you are in the first-place. What have YOUR RESPONSES got to do with the emirates stadium? Its AlL gUUd May 23rd, 2006, 12:47 AM OK back to the thread, when exactly is the Bergkamp testimonial, July the..? Ivan Drago May 23rd, 2006, 12:49 AM I would think the Dennis Bergkamp testimonial would be a sell out if they were allowed to open all parts of the ground, but is there not a 40,000 restriction? If so that is a shame. (Unless he's keeping all the £££ for himself) chester84 May 23rd, 2006, 12:49 AM I am sure these have been posted before, but lets remind ourselves of some of the main facts about The Emirates Stadium: http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/4411/image0602gx.jpg The overall project cost is £390 million. 1,800 new jobs will be created in the Borough of Islington as a result of the new stadium project. Over 2,000 new homes will be built in Islington as part of the project. At the project's peak, 1,000 construction workers will be working on the new stadium. The site of the new stadium is 17 acres. The new stadium will have a capacity for 60,000 spectators. The height of the new stadium will be 41.9 meters from pitch level to the top of the roof. Two of the key points in the Club's brief to the design team were for the pitch to be as good as Highbury, and to create an exhilarating stadium atmosphere through the design. 1,140,000 is the anticipated number of supporters to attend Premiership matches at the new stadium in one season (Average number at Highbury - 722,795). There will be 150 Executive Boxes in the new stadium, compared to 48 boxes at Highbury. The new stadium Executive Boxes will have the total capacity to serve up to 2,000 meals on a matchday. There will be approximately 250 catering serving points around the new stadium. Over 900 WCs will be at the new stadium, together with 370 metres of urinals and 113 Disabled toilets. Over 2,500 legal documents have been signed in order to give the project full clearance. There will be 41 TV camera positions throughout the stadium, as well as 215 seats for the media. The stadium will be the site for a new 1,000m2 merchandising megastore. Arsenal appointed Sir Robert McAlpine Ltd to carry out the construction works for the project in January 2002. Previous projects which Sir Robert McAlpine have been responsible for are the new Hampden Park Stadium in Glasgow, the Centenary Stand at West Ham United, The Millennium Dome and the Bullring Birmingham. The new stadium is designed by HOK Sport, who are the Architects of Stadium Australia in Sydney, The English National Stadium Wembley, Royal Ascot Racecourse and Wimbledon Centre Court. Over 25,000 cubic metres of contamination has been removed from all the sites, to make way for the project. There will be capacity for up to 250 wheelchair users at the new stadium. These positions will be provided at all public and corporate levels throughout the building. Size of the grass area will be 113m by 76m. Compared to 105m by 70m at Highbury. Over 60,000 cubic metres of concrete will be used in the structure, which is sufficient to fill the team bath at Highbury over 7,500 times, or also, enough to fill the area of the pitch three stories high. 10,000 tons of steel reinforcement will be used in the stadium, which is the equivalent of the weight of over 300 team coaches. 3,000 tons of tubular steel will be in the main roof (there are 100 tons in the existing North Bank). There will be 33,000 metres of concrete terracing. The new stadium will house 15,000m2 of glazing, the equivalent area of two football pitches. There will be 4,500 metres of metal hand railing. The stadium complex will contain 2,000 doors. There will be 100 flights of stairs, which is enough to go to the top of Canary wharf twice. Also there will be 13 elevators and 5 escalators. The four tiers of seating will all be covered by a roof of approximately 30,000m2 (Football pitch covers approx 8,600m2). To improve the potential quality of the pitch at the new stadium, extensive computer modelling is being carried out to study the sunlight and ventilation at pitch level. (Taken from arsenal.com) Coventry Nutter May 23rd, 2006, 12:56 AM Mmmm since i've decided not to respond personally to any nationalistic morons, i'll state my point for the benefit of those whose intelligence stretches beyond that of a wild bore. No thats underestimating the beast, it has to be more civilised. Very slowly now, i need to be careful to make sure you understand. What has YOUR RESPONSE got to do with the emirates stadium? I do hope you understand as it's difficult enough trying to explain how mis-guided you are in the first place. Stop ruining the thread. Let it go. Stadium talk or button it! easysurfer May 23rd, 2006, 12:58 AM I'd like to clear trolls out of the forum so that they won't be closed down meaning everyone will suffer. Then maybe we can discuss the topic in the title without being bombarded by all this immature nonsense. We can play silly games all night but i'd much rather discuss things with people who are more educated and respectful towards other cultures and religions. There is a world outside of 'merry' little scotland you know. Great some pictures of the emirates, now we're back on track. Let's keep this up now. Coventry Nutter May 23rd, 2006, 12:59 AM I'd like to clear trolls out of the forum so that they won't be closed down meaning everyone will suffer. Then maybe we can discuss the topic in the title without being bombarded by all this immature nonsense. We can play silly games all night but i'd much rather discuss things with people who are more educated and respectful towards other cultures and religions. There is a world outside of 'merry' little scotland you know. Will you ever learn? Stop trolling the thread. If you think I don't like other cultures, then why are you talking with me? Ignore me! Try it! This is a good forum and people like you are ruining it. Talk about Emirates or hit the road Jack! zee May 23rd, 2006, 01:02 AM ^^ yes can we stop the immature off topic discussions and talk about the stadium part 5 is now open zee May 23rd, 2006, 01:04 AM Lets remind ourselves of some of the main facts about The Emirates Stadium: http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/4411/image0602gx.jpg The overall project cost is £390 million. 1,800 new jobs will be created in the Borough of Islington as a result of the new stadium project. Over 2,000 new homes will be built in Islington as part of the project. At the project's peak, 1,000 construction workers will be working on the new stadium. The site of the new stadium is 17 acres. The new stadium will have a capacity for 60,000 spectators. The height of the new stadium will be 41.9 meters from pitch level to the top of the roof. Two of the key points in the Club's brief to the design team were for the pitch to be as good as Highbury, and to create an exhilarating stadium atmosphere through the design. 1,140,000 is the anticipated number of supporters to attend Premiership matches at the new stadium in one season (Average number at Highbury - 722,795). There will be 150 Executive Boxes in the new stadium, compared to 48 boxes at Highbury. The new stadium Executive Boxes will have the total capacity to serve up to 2,000 meals on a matchday. There will be approximately 250 catering serving points around the new stadium. Over 900 WCs will be at the new stadium, together with 370 metres of urinals and 113 Disabled toilets. Over 2,500 legal documents have been signed in order to give the project full clearance. There will be 41 TV camera positions throughout the stadium, as well as 215 seats for the media. The stadium will be the site for a new 1,000m2 merchandising megastore. Arsenal appointed Sir Robert McAlpine Ltd to carry out the construction works for the project in January 2002. Previous projects which Sir Robert McAlpine have been responsible for are the new Hampden Park Stadium in Glasgow, the Centenary Stand at West Ham United, The Millennium Dome and the Bullring Birmingham. The new stadium is designed by HOK Sport, who are the Architects of Stadium Australia in Sydney, The English National Stadium Wembley, Royal Ascot Racecourse and Wimbledon Centre Court. Over 25,000 cubic metres of contamination has been removed from all the sites, to make way for the project. There will be capacity for up to 250 wheelchair users at the new stadium. These positions will be provided at all public and corporate levels throughout the building. Size of the grass area will be 113m by 76m. Compared to 105m by 70m at Highbury. Over 60,000 cubic metres of concrete will be used in the structure, which is sufficient to fill the team bath at Highbury over 7,500 times, or also, enough to fill the area of the pitch three stories high. 10,000 tons of steel reinforcement will be used in the stadium, which is the equivalent of the weight of over 300 team coaches. 3,000 tons of tubular steel will be in the main roof (there are 100 tons in the existing North Bank). There will be 33,000 metres of concrete terracing. The new stadium will house 15,000m2 of glazing, the equivalent area of two football pitches. There will be 4,500 metres of metal hand railing. The stadium complex will contain 2,000 doors. There will be 100 flights of stairs, which is enough to go to the top of Canary wharf twice. Also there will be 13 elevators and 5 escalators. The four tiers of seating will all be covered by a roof of approximately 30,000m2 (Football pitch covers approx 8,600m2). To improve the potential quality of the pitch at the new stadium, extensive computer modelling is being carried out to study the sunlight and ventilation at pitch level. (Taken from arsenal.com) Coventry Nutter May 23rd, 2006, 01:05 AM Looks like a poorer version of Da Luz. Not bad though. Too nice/soft looking and not very intimidating. Looks like a stadium designed for the prawn sandwhich brigade. 6 out of 10. Ivan Drago May 23rd, 2006, 01:07 AM Roar will just ruin this one again anyway. But, oooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhh: http://www.islington.gov.uk/images/leisure/arsenal/emirates_stadium1.jpg Its AlL gUUd May 23rd, 2006, 01:12 AM emirates would be the best club stadium in Britain, interms of quality zee May 23rd, 2006, 01:13 AM ^^ i agree even in terms of technology Coventry Nutter May 23rd, 2006, 01:15 AM 113 Disabled toilets??? Tells you something about Arsenal fans! asdfg May 23rd, 2006, 01:15 AM The Emirates is/will be the best club stadium in Britain full stop. Coventry Nutter May 23rd, 2006, 01:16 AM The Emirates is/will be the best club stadium in Britain full stop. No it won't. zee May 23rd, 2006, 01:17 AM yes it will asdfg May 23rd, 2006, 01:18 AM No it won't. You are wrong. Only Old Trafford comes close to Emirates. Coventry Nutter May 23rd, 2006, 01:18 AM No it won't asdfg May 23rd, 2006, 01:19 AM No it won't Which club stadium is better than Emirates then? zee May 23rd, 2006, 01:20 AM why r we havin this pointless conversation yes it wil be the best club stadium in UK END OF!! Coventry Nutter May 23rd, 2006, 01:21 AM You are wrong. Only Old Trafford comes close to Emirates. No, YOU are wrong. Old Trafford is a joke. Old Trafford won't be close to Emirates, but that is no shock, as Old Trafford is shit. The Reebok is better than Old trafford (The Reebok is a stunning stadium). Quality, not quantity. Emirates will be the 2nd best UK club stadium. Coventry Nutter May 23rd, 2006, 01:21 AM why r we havin this pointless conversation yes it wil be the best club stadium in UK END OF!! what team do you support? I think I know which one it is. asdfg May 23rd, 2006, 01:21 AM No, YOU are wrong. Old Trafford is a joke. Old Trafford won't be close to Emirates, but that is no shock, as Old Trafford is shit. The Reebok is better than Old trafford (The Reebok is a stunning stadium). Quality, not quantity. Emirates will be the 2nd best UK club stadium. This is wrong. Its AlL gUUd May 23rd, 2006, 01:22 AM No it won't well obviously it will, your acting more moronic then usual zee May 23rd, 2006, 01:22 AM r u saying reebok is better? hahahahaha we have a contender for joke of the month here reebok may look good from the outside but has ugly interiors Its AlL gUUd May 23rd, 2006, 01:23 AM 1. Emirates 2. OT zee May 23rd, 2006, 01:23 AM what team do you support? I think I know which one it is. the gunners!!! Coventry Nutter May 23rd, 2006, 01:24 AM No, it won't. It's not even open yet!! It may be the best, but I seriously doubt it. I only judge stadiums I have been to, unlike most posters on this forum. Thankfully I have been to nearly every large UK ground. It looks too much of a prawn sandwhich stadium for my liking. It will be full of soft nancy boys. Too much comfort is a bad thing in my opinion. I was brought up in the tough terraces, many a brick bounced of my coupon. I like it hard! What one person likes in a stadium is different to others. zee May 23rd, 2006, 01:25 AM 1. Emirates 2. OT as much as i hate to admit..you are right 1 Emirates 2. OT 3. DONT KNOW AND DONT CARE asdfg May 23rd, 2006, 01:26 AM r u saying reebok is better? hahahahaha we have a contender for joke of the month here reebok may look good from the outside but has ugly interiors He said Reebok is better than Old Trafford for some reason. Bizarre, since I asked which stadium is better than Emirates. I mean he's not seriously saying the Reebok Stadium is better than Emirates is he? zee May 23rd, 2006, 01:27 AM ^^thats wat i am shockingly trying to understand zee May 23rd, 2006, 01:28 AM No, it won't. It's not even open yet!! It may be the best, but I seriously doubt it. I only judge stadiums I have been to, unlike most posters on this forum. Thankfully I have been to nearly every large UK ground. It looks too much of a prawn sandwhich stadium for my liking. It will be full of soft nancy boys. Too much comfort is a bad thing in my opinion. I was brought up in the tough terraces, many a brick bounced of my coupon. I like it hard! What one person likes in a stadium is different to others. which team do you support? Coventry Nutter May 23rd, 2006, 01:29 AM The Reebok is far better than Old Trafford. Ask any non-Man United fan who has been to both, and they will say they preferred the Reebok. It's a stunning stadium. Old Trafford is large, but shit. It is the most overrated stadium in the UK. Have you been to both? as I have. If you haven't, then your opinion is irrelevant. Coventry Nutter May 23rd, 2006, 01:30 AM which team do you support? Coventry City zee May 23rd, 2006, 01:31 AM asdfg askd which stadium is better than emirates and you said reebok Ivan Drago May 23rd, 2006, 01:31 AM You're all wrong - the best club stadium in Britain is this work of art http://www.newcastle-online.com/stadiums/frattonpark_portsmouth/images/frattonpark1.jpg zee May 23rd, 2006, 01:32 AM The Reebok is far better than Old Trafford. Ask any non-Man United fan who has been to both, and they will say they preferred the Reebok. It's a stunning stadium. Old Trafford is large, but shit. It is the most overrated stadium in the UK. Have you been to both? as I have. If you haven't, then your opinion is irrelevant. matter of fact i have been to both and i prefer old trafford Its AlL gUUd May 23rd, 2006, 01:32 AM which team do you support? Are you honestly saying you don't know?? he supports Rangers, just have a look at the threads on here, he can't stop talking bout them Coventry Nutter May 23rd, 2006, 01:32 AM asdfg askd which stadium is better than emirates and you said reebok No I didn't. Are you a schizo? zee May 23rd, 2006, 01:33 AM You're all wrong - the best club stadium in Britain is this work of art http://www.newcastle-online.com/stadiums/frattonpark_portsmouth/images/frattonpark1.jpg if it makes you feel better Coventry Nutter May 23rd, 2006, 01:33 AM matter of fact i have been to both and i prefer old trafford Fair enough. That is your opinion and you are entitled to it. People will always have bad taste. Ivan Drago May 23rd, 2006, 01:33 AM This is a beauty http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/united_kingdom/england/south_east/watford_vicarage1.jpg Its AlL gUUd May 23rd, 2006, 01:33 AM just to reiterate Emirates will be the best club stadium in Britain interms of quality Coventry Nutter May 23rd, 2006, 01:34 AM Are you honestly saying you don't know?? he supports Rangers, just have a look at the threads on here, he can't stop talking bout them Rangers are my favourite Scottish team, but I don't really know much about them. I'm a Coventry Nutter! asdfg May 23rd, 2006, 01:35 AM The Reebok is far better than Old Trafford. Ask any non-Man United fan who has been to both, and they will say they preferred the Reebok. It's a stunning stadium. Old Trafford is large, but shit. It is the most overrated stadium in the UK. Have you been to both? as I have. If you haven't, then your opinion is irrelevant. Yes I've been to both. Which club stadium is better than Emirates? Ivan Drago May 23rd, 2006, 01:35 AM The premerhip has loads of rubbish stadiums, so if Emirates was the best it is hardly a great achievement. Its AlL gUUd May 23rd, 2006, 01:35 AM This is a beauty http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/united_kingdom/england/south_east/watford_vicarage1.jpg can't believe that will be part of the premiership next season, the league has lost good stadia in Stadium of light, st Andrews and that west brom one zee May 23rd, 2006, 01:36 AM The Reebok is better than Old trafford (The Reebok is a stunning stadium). Quality, not quantity. Emirates will be the 2nd best UK club stadium. so which stadium is the best then Its AlL gUUd May 23rd, 2006, 01:37 AM Rangers are my favourite Scottish team, but I don't really know much about them. I'm a Coventry Nutter! Yeah, i think your starting to believe that actually Its AlL gUUd May 23rd, 2006, 01:37 AM The premerhip has loads of rubbish stadiums, so if Emirates was the best it is hardly a great achievement. You have sunk to a new low, socrates. i had expected better from you Coventry Nutter May 23rd, 2006, 01:38 AM just to reiterate Emirates will be the best club stadium in Britain interms of quality Depends what you mean by quality? If you mean a bunch of soft London twats mincing about on their laptops booking a meal for their favourite restaurant whilst eating prawn sandwhiches and shouting 'Arsenal, Arsenal, Arsenal, Arsenal' and 'jolly good game chaps'........ then yes, you may be right. zee May 23rd, 2006, 01:38 AM ^^ i cant believe ivan said that Ivan Drago May 23rd, 2006, 01:39 AM You have sunk to a new low, socrates. i had expected better from you Its a sad fact. I expected better too, but the evidence doesn't lie. Coventry Nutter May 23rd, 2006, 01:40 AM so which stadium is the best then I'm not telling you. zee May 23rd, 2006, 01:40 AM Depends what you mean by quality? If you mean a bunch of soft London twats mincing about on their laptops booking a meal for their favourite restaurant whilst eating prawn sandwhiches and shouting 'Arsenal, Arsenal, Arsenal, Arsenal' and 'jolly good game chaps'........ then yes, you may be right. haha at least we have a class team to cheer on Ivan Drago May 23rd, 2006, 01:41 AM ^^ i cant believe ivan said that Do you want me to post 20 pics of Premiership stadiums to prove my point? Its AlL gUUd May 23rd, 2006, 01:41 AM Depends what you mean by quality? If you mean a bunch of soft London twats mincing about on their laptops booking a meal for their favourite restaurant whilst eating prawn sandwhiches and shouting 'Arsenal, Arsenal, Arsenal, Arsenal' and 'jolly good game chaps'........ then yes, you may be right. Why do you hate London so much? what has it ever done to you, oh wait you don't have to reply to that Coventry Nutter May 23rd, 2006, 01:41 AM the gunners!!! So you support Arsenal and you think Emirates will be the best stadium in the UK??? hhhmmmm interesting!! Yes, you really don't sound like your average stupid football fan. zee May 23rd, 2006, 01:42 AM I'm not telling you. you dug urself ur own grave youre clearly indicated that the reebok is better asdfg May 23rd, 2006, 01:42 AM You have sunk to a new low, socrates. i had expected better from you I have been disappointed with Socrates too. He used to come across slightly bitter, but far more intelligent than Bubomb. Now he's just turned in a poor imitation of Bubomb. Disappointing. Coventry Nutter May 23rd, 2006, 01:42 AM haha at least we have a class team to cheer on Yes you do, and for a glory hunter enjoying the latest fad, that is all that counts. Well done. Its AlL gUUd May 23rd, 2006, 01:43 AM Do you want me to post 20 pics of Premiership stadiums to prove my point? premiership stadiums change every season, as certain good stadiums get relegated and some crappy ones get promoted as next season will show, But england have a collection of some of the better stadia in europe. zee May 23rd, 2006, 01:43 AM So you support Arsenal and you think Emirates will be the best stadium in the UK??? hhhmmmm interesting!! Yes, you really don't sound like your average stupid football fan. ur right, im not the average STUPID fan im jus an average fan Coventry Nutter May 23rd, 2006, 01:44 AM you dug urself ur own grave youre clearly indicated that the reebok is better No I didn't. I only said it was better than Old Trafford. In no way did I indicate it was better than Emirates. Emirates is not better than any stadium yet, as it is not finished and I haven't visited it. zee May 23rd, 2006, 01:45 AM Yes you do, and for a glory hunter enjoying the latest fad, that is all that counts. Well done. unbeaten 49..nuff said Its AlL gUUd May 23rd, 2006, 01:45 AM I have been disappointed with Socrates too. He used to come across slightly bitter, but far more intelligent than Bubomb. Now he's just turned in a poor imitation of Bubomb. Disappointing. i hope socrates is reading this, i expect stuff like that from bubomb but socrates your not helping yourself by trying to imitate him Coventry Nutter May 23rd, 2006, 01:46 AM premiership stadiums change every season, as certain good stadiums get relegated and some crappy ones get promoted as next season will show, But england have a collection of some of the better stadia in europe. Same happened in the sausage league. 3 great stadiums down, 1 average and 2 shit up. England have poor stadiums though. zee May 23rd, 2006, 01:46 AM No I didn't. I only said it was better than Old Trafford. In no way did I indicate it was better than Emirates. Emirates is not better than any stadium yet, as it is not finished and I haven't visited it. fair enough Ivan Drago May 23rd, 2006, 01:47 AM I have been disappointed with Socrates too. He used to come across slightly bitter, but far more intelligent than Bubomb. Now he's just turned in a poor imitation of Bubomb. Disappointing. LOL HAHAHA LOL Poor imitation nothing. We are completely different in all aspects of our posting. I am far more intelligent than you are, however I dumb down my content to enable you to understand it. Coventry Nutter May 23rd, 2006, 01:47 AM Why do you hate London so much? what has it ever done to you, oh wait you don't have to reply to that I don't hate London, only some certain types of Londoners, just like I hate certain types of Glaswegians. Coventry Nutter May 23rd, 2006, 01:48 AM LOL HAHAHA LOL Poor imitation nothing. We are completely different in all aspects of our posting. I am far more intelligent than you are, however I dumb down my content to enable you to understand it. This is true. Bubomb is a gay stadium fanatic who loves Metroid Prime. zee May 23rd, 2006, 01:48 AM LOL HAHAHA LOL Poor imitation nothing. We are completely different in all aspects of our posting. I am far more intelligent than you are, however I dumb down my content to enable you to understand it. hahahah zee May 23rd, 2006, 01:49 AM I don't hate London, only some certain types of Londoners, just like I hate certain types of Glaswegians. and who r these certain types? asdfg May 23rd, 2006, 01:50 AM LOL HAHAHA LOL Poor imitation nothing. We are completely different in all aspects of our posting. I am far more intelligent than you are, however I dumb down my content to enable you to understand it. You are a bubomb wanabee. You obviously envy the attention he gets as your attempts at imitating him are pathetic. When it comes to trolling pricks, he is the real deal whereas you are just a pale imitation. Nae luck. Coventry Nutter May 23rd, 2006, 01:50 AM and who r these certain types? Possibly you, but I can't be sure. zee May 23rd, 2006, 01:51 AM ^^ im not a londoner Coventry Nutter May 23rd, 2006, 01:51 AM You are a bubomb wanabee. You obviously envy the attention he gets as your attempts at imitating him are pathetic. When it comes to trolling pricks, he is the real deal whereas you are just a pale imitation. Nae luck. and you clearly come a poor 3rd! reyrey May 23rd, 2006, 01:51 AM Fucking hell, grow up lads... Coventry Nutter May 23rd, 2006, 01:52 AM ^^ im not a londoner Just as well I wasn't sure then. zee May 23rd, 2006, 01:52 AM ^^ i was waitin for some1 to say that and tell us to go to beds zee May 23rd, 2006, 01:53 AM Just as well I wasn't sure then. yup u wernt but FYI i am a true gunner and not a glory hunter Its AlL gUUd May 23rd, 2006, 01:54 AM Same happened in the sausage league. 3 great stadiums down, 1 average and 2 shit up. England have poor stadiums though. i didn't expect anything else from you bubomb zee May 23rd, 2006, 01:55 AM whos bubomb? Coventry Nutter May 23rd, 2006, 01:55 AM yup u wernt but FYI i am a true gunner and not a glory hunter ok, if you say so. Ivan Drago May 23rd, 2006, 01:55 AM You are a bubomb wanabee. You obviously envy the attention he gets as your attempts at imitating him are pathetic. When it comes to trolling pricks, he is the real deal whereas you are just a pale imitation. Nae luck. I genuinely pity you. I don't troll, I just state my opinion. I tell the truth about stadia, if they're rubbish, I'll say so. You are too think to understand the difference, and so in your eyes I am poor at trolling. Honestly! :bash: Here is an example I asked a question in the last emirates thread, got an answer and thanked the person who provided it. You popped up laughing at how my "trolling" had "backfired". You are clearly of below average intelligence, and your petty insults are as pointless as they are unjustified. Now go home Timothy, back to your terrorist chums where your opinion matters. Coventry Nutter May 23rd, 2006, 01:56 AM whos bubomb? who's scorates? zee May 23rd, 2006, 01:57 AM ok guys it was ok until us fightin over which stadium is better but talkin about imitations is just silly Its AlL gUUd May 23rd, 2006, 01:57 AM whos bubomb? if you've been on this forum from november you should know, that he is a Rangers fan who is anti english and trolls on every thread he can find, and has been banned at least a 100 times and is currently coventry nutter zee May 23rd, 2006, 01:57 AM who's scorates? i dunno zee May 23rd, 2006, 01:58 AM if you've been on this forum from november you should know, that he is a Rangers fan who is anti english and trolls on every thread he can find, and has been banned at least a 100 times and is currently coventry nutter oh right not surprised asdfg May 23rd, 2006, 01:58 AM I genuinely pity you. I don't troll, I just state my opinion. I tell the truth about stadia, if they're rubbish, I'll say so. You are too think to understand the difference, and so in your eyes I am poor at trolling. Honestly! :bash: Here is an example I asked a question in the last emirates thread, got an answer and thanked the person who provided it. You popped up laughing at how my "trolling" had "backfired". You are clearly of below average intelligence, and your petty insults are as pointless as they are unjustified. Now go home Timothy, back to your terrorist chums where your opinion matters. ^^ Fake bubomb ^^ Its AlL gUUd May 23rd, 2006, 01:58 AM i dunno thats his side kick zee May 23rd, 2006, 01:59 AM ok guys can we stop this silly conversation Its AlL gUUd May 23rd, 2006, 02:00 AM sad to say they have destroyed another thread, just to change things: http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/4202/henrysigupdate3ku.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Coventry Nutter May 23rd, 2006, 02:00 AM if you've been on this forum from november you should know, that he is a Rangers fan who is anti english and trolls on every thread he can find, and has been banned at least a 100 times and is currently coventry nutter How dare you!! Im from Coventry and i'm a nutter. For every thread Bubomb trolled, you replied with another troll, so which is worse? Takes two to tango! In fact, stop trolling this thread, you troll! Bubomb had his IP banned, so is currently lost in cyberspace! zee May 23rd, 2006, 02:01 AM i opened this thread and hr ago and we on the fifth page! Its AlL gUUd May 23rd, 2006, 02:01 AM How dare you!! Im from Coventry and i'm a nutter. For every thread Bubomb trolled, you replied with another troll, so which is worse? Takes two to tango! In fact, stop trolling this thread, you troll! Bubomb had his IP banned, so is currently lost in cyberspace! Ok i apologise bubomb Coventry Nutter May 23rd, 2006, 02:01 AM sad to say they have destroyed another thread, just to change things: http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/4202/henrysigupdate3ku.jpg (http://imageshack.us) what's that big thing behind Henry??? Coventry Nutter May 23rd, 2006, 02:03 AM i opened this thread and hr ago and we on the fifth page! Emirates sure is a popular stadium! Its AlL gUUd May 23rd, 2006, 02:03 AM what's that big thing behind Henry??? i know it hasn't been discussed alot in this thread but surprisingly it is actually the emirates stadium zee May 23rd, 2006, 02:03 AM ^^ dnt start agian Its AlL gUUd May 23rd, 2006, 02:04 AM ^^ dnt start agian wot? zee May 23rd, 2006, 02:05 AM wot? it was for the nutter's post of henry Ivan Drago May 23rd, 2006, 02:07 AM I told you it would be ruined. asdfg (which by the way is the worst username I have ever seen anywhere) has bagan a petty vandetta against who he delightfully labelled the poor mans troll or some other such nonsense. He has then proceeded to troll this thread in an attempt to sully the name of one of the most enlightened posters on this forum. The irony is lost on him it seems. But Emirates --- wow, what a great stadium for such a great team and their great fans. Disraeli May 23rd, 2006, 02:13 AM Looks like the boys have been banned. Doesn't the Emirates stadium look great btw? zee May 23rd, 2006, 02:14 AM yup jmancuso May 23rd, 2006, 02:14 AM let's thank our resident retards for shitting up this thread. jmancuso May 23rd, 2006, 02:16 AM thread #5 was beyond repair... zee May 23rd, 2006, 02:18 AM ^^ lol i agree and im partly at fault for that so i apoligise jmancuso May 23rd, 2006, 02:20 AM no, the stadium section's two resident assclowns (socrates and bubomb) are to blame. 50 different usernames and no lives. pretty sad... zee May 23rd, 2006, 02:23 AM ^^yep..very sad zee May 23rd, 2006, 02:25 AM Lets remind ourselves of some of the main facts about The Emirates Stadium: http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/4411/image0602gx.jpg The overall project cost is £390 million. 1,800 new jobs will be created in the Borough of Islington as a result of the new stadium project. Over 2,000 new homes will be built in Islington as part of the project. At the project's peak, 1,000 construction workers will be working on the new stadium. The site of the new stadium is 17 acres. The new stadium will have a capacity for 60,000 spectators. The height of the new stadium will be 41.9 meters from pitch level to the top of the roof. Two of the key points in the Club's brief to the design team were for the pitch to be as good as Highbury, and to create an exhilarating stadium atmosphere through the design. 1,140,000 is the anticipated number of supporters to attend Premiership matches at the new stadium in one season (Average number at Highbury - 722,795). There will be 150 Executive Boxes in the new stadium, compared to 48 boxes at Highbury. The new stadium Executive Boxes will have the total capacity to serve up to 2,000 meals on a matchday. There will be approximately 250 catering serving points around the new stadium. Over 900 WCs will be at the new stadium, together with 370 metres of urinals and 113 Disabled toilets. Over 2,500 legal documents have been signed in order to give the project full clearance. There will be 41 TV camera positions throughout the stadium, as well as 215 seats for the media. The stadium will be the site for a new 1,000m2 merchandising megastore. Arsenal appointed Sir Robert McAlpine Ltd to carry out the construction works for the project in January 2002. Previous projects which Sir Robert McAlpine have been responsible for are the new Hampden Park Stadium in Glasgow, the Centenary Stand at West Ham United, The Millennium Dome and the Bullring Birmingham. The new stadium is designed by HOK Sport, who are the Architects of Stadium Australia in Sydney, The English National Stadium Wembley, Royal Ascot Racecourse and Wimbledon Centre Court. Over 25,000 cubic metres of contamination has been removed from all the sites, to make way for the project. There will be capacity for up to 250 wheelchair users at the new stadium. These positions will be provided at all public and corporate levels throughout the building. Size of the grass area will be 113m by 76m. Compared to 105m by 70m at Highbury. Over 60,000 cubic metres of concrete will be used in the structure, which is sufficient to fill the team bath at Highbury over 7,500 times, or also, enough to fill the area of the pitch three stories high. 10,000 tons of steel reinforcement will be used in the stadium, which is the equivalent of the weight of over 300 team coaches. 3,000 tons of tubular steel will be in the main roof (there are 100 tons in the existing North Bank). There will be 33,000 metres of concrete terracing. The new stadium will house 15,000m2 of glazing, the equivalent area of two football pitches. There will be 4,500 metres of metal hand railing. The stadium complex will contain 2,000 doors. There will be 100 flights of stairs, which is enough to go to the top of Canary wharf twice. Also there will be 13 elevators and 5 escalators. The four tiers of seating will all be covered by a roof of approximately 30,000m2 (Football pitch covers approx 8,600m2). To improve the potential quality of the pitch at the new stadium, extensive computer modelling is being carried out to study the sunlight and ventilation at pitch level. Filipe_Golias May 23rd, 2006, 02:34 AM The new stadium is designed by HOK Sport, who are the Architects of Stadium Australia in Sydney, The English National Stadium Wembley, Royal Ascot Racecourse and Wimbledon Centre Court. ... and Da Luz Stadium (Benfica), hence the resemblance. Disraeli May 23rd, 2006, 02:37 AM Totally off-topic here but why is there no search option on this forum? I asked this once before but it was not answered. Cheers JOBINHO May 23rd, 2006, 02:46 AM Hang on, how about if some one creates an 8th thread which actually talks about the Emirates Stadium? asohn May 23rd, 2006, 03:06 AM ^^ It takes up too much bandwith, and to keep the site free its neccesary. You can do a crude search by going to google and searching within this site. Betty Swollocks May 23rd, 2006, 03:24 AM ^^ lol i agree and im partly at fault for that so i apoligise Yup, you were blameless, not once did you post off-topic. All the fault of those 2 guys, everybody else only mentioned emirates. Yup that's right, lets take the easy option and blame the usual suspects. jmancuso May 23rd, 2006, 04:22 AM what? there's a thread number 6, go there. yido362 May 23rd, 2006, 06:59 AM http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2006/05/18/Ronaldinho_wideweb__470x350,0.jpg Ronaldinho says he likes the new stadium. pompeyfan May 23rd, 2006, 07:32 AM ^^ It takes up too much bandwith, and to keep the site free its neccesary. You can do a crude search by going to google and searching within this site. But wouldn't it save bandwidth because there would not be 50 threads on everything??? pompeyfan May 23rd, 2006, 07:38 AM nice stadium though Durbsboi May 23rd, 2006, 08:09 AM Now yido362 was they really a need for that? brand new flippin thread & you go & put that there, ah jeez, to all the arsenal fans lets not F*ck up this thread from the start, just ignore that picture. Now regarding those BIG screens on the outside of the stadium, any idea if there are going in, because I said they could be used for advertising, like displaying the next match & Emirates & tickets prices's & so on. Diaby May 23rd, 2006, 09:40 AM Now yido362 was they really a need for that? brand new flippin thread & you go & put that there, ah jeez, to all the arsenal fans lets not F*ck up this thread from the start, just ignore that picture. Now regarding those BIG screens on the outside of the stadium, any idea if there are going in, because I said they could be used for advertising, like displaying the next match & Emirates & tickets prices's & so on. I have never seen any big screens outside the ground. Can you please post a pic. eddyk May 23rd, 2006, 09:43 AM He's on about an old video which showed video screens outside the ground. Video screens which i'm almost certain havn't been, and wont be built. James21 May 23rd, 2006, 10:08 AM yeah i think not, i think that was more of a gimmick in the video. The residents have a huge problem with the lighting of the stadium (they have kicked up a huge fuss over the arsenal and emirates logos on the outside) so i would image massive projections would not go down too well! Durbsboi May 23rd, 2006, 10:11 AM But one must admit, if the stadium did have it, it would be rather cool. James21 May 23rd, 2006, 10:34 AM It'd be great, and to be honest I see no reason why on a matchday (when there are 60,000 people around so its not exactly gonna be quiet) why should a few video screens bother them? I think they have settled now though for the logos, and im not sure there is any way they would be able to put them in. It's a great stadium but it could be just that bit better if the residents were so damned annoying! Still I'd rather that than have been moved out of islington. anyone got that pic of henry in the stadium? think it gave a really good idea of scale Diaby May 23rd, 2006, 11:11 AM Here you go James http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/4202/henrysigupdate3ku.jpg highburysouljah May 23rd, 2006, 12:04 PM well the board said they arnt trying to make the biggest or most expensive stadium but the most beautiful tv123 May 23rd, 2006, 12:39 PM the box seat http://www.abc.net.au/newinventors/txt/s1597451.htm Ventura1 May 23rd, 2006, 02:12 PM Now that is what I call a cheesy video! Great seat though! Ventura1 May 23rd, 2006, 02:14 PM And now we have the pleasure of watching the "mozart of football" (Tomas Rosicky) in the Emirates Stadium next season. 2005 May 23rd, 2006, 02:25 PM And now we have the pleasure of watching the "mozart of football" (Tomas Rosicky) in the Emirates Stadium next season. Nothing to do with the stadium! Sorry people but I'm now going to have to create another thread :| Ventura1 May 23rd, 2006, 03:12 PM Oooh, a touch dramatic I think! Ventura1 May 23rd, 2006, 03:14 PM 2005, two quick questions... What exactly does your picture of Martin Jol on your profile have to do with a stadium? And what exactly does your quote in your signature have to do with a stadium? eddyk May 23rd, 2006, 03:22 PM Anyhoo....looking on the webcam i'd say about 1/5 of the lower tier seats are in place. P.S I think 2005's comment was aimed at jmancuso rather tna you ventura1. Jack Rabbit Slim May 23rd, 2006, 03:50 PM Anyhoo....looking on the webcam i'd say about 1/5 of the lower tier seats are in place. Yer, I'd say that is about right...maybe a little more then 1/5....hard to tell though. But it is really starting to come together now, and I can't stress how good that pitch is looking. Are all the seats in place for the upper tiers? I can't really see from the image that the webcam shows, but it looks like they are. I first saw the new seats for the bottom tier laid out ready to be installed on May 19th (according to a post I made in a previous thread) and they took about 4 days to do 1/5 of the lot, so (and this is crappy logic really), it should take about 16 days to have the whole bottom tier steas installed....maybe give-or-take 4 days, so we're looking at no more then 20 days (possibly about 2 and a half weeks) for the seating to be complete. Of course this is purely speculation, as they could have a hold up, or delay installing the seats for a while or something like that, which would eman it takes longer. Alternatively, now that they have gotten fully going with the job, they might take less time installing each seaction of seating so it could take less time....you get what I'm saying... :) :cheers: Ventura1 May 23rd, 2006, 04:03 PM Someone posted in a previous thread the details of how many seats they are able to install per day and also the deadline of when they will be done. I'll try and track that post down... James21 May 23rd, 2006, 04:19 PM I think basically the upper tier is complete, apart from the two corners where they are finishing off the giant screens. So prob 7/8 done up there, and it wouldn't take long to do those corners. I think they can install as many as they like in a day, depends how many people are at it, but that system of just clicking them onto the bars which have already been installed obviously makes it a lot easier. I would like to see them doing it though, see how long it does actually take! The grass is looking very nice, and the fact is has 2-3 months to properly take root is excellent, means that it will be very hard wearing. Another thing ive noticed is that the pitch gets sun 9-5, which is gonna be good. I know it will get less in the winter but you can see it will still get enough, especially with the lighting system arsenal have as well. 2005 May 23rd, 2006, 04:20 PM 2005, two quick questions... What exactly does your picture of Martin Jol on your profile have to do with a stadium? And what exactly does your quote in your signature have to do with a stadium? Ask the same to questions to Jack rabbit Smith and you might get the same answer. Noostairz May 23rd, 2006, 04:45 PM http://www.awimb.com/emAlbum/albums/Ashburton%20Grove/webcam%20shots.jpg James21 May 23rd, 2006, 05:52 PM one thing, that concrete surround around pitch, do you think they are going to cover it or is that the finished product? It's just that I cant see it being very safe for the players if they run off the pitch to suddenly go on that, be like being on a playground? I thought maybe it would have a rubber type top, like the red stuff that is at highbury? mauritius gunner May 23rd, 2006, 06:38 PM The Emirates thread is the only one that get's bombarded by complete morons, simply because they are jealous of the finest club football stadium to embrace europe. J Mancuso, well done for incriminating the sados in question. I agree we should try to ignore them as it will just spoil the thread. Besides, with the stadium opening due in months, I cannot see this thread continuing for much longer skaP187 May 23rd, 2006, 07:02 PM The Emirates thread is the only one that get's bombarded by complete morons, simply because they are jealous of the finest club football stadium to embrace europe. J Mancuso, well done for incriminating the sados in question. I agree we should try to ignore them as it will just spoil the thread. Besides, with the stadium opening due in months, I cannot see this thread continuing for much longer It is a nice stadium yes it is/ will be (I hope) but this talk, is fan talk, you might think it is the best stadium in the world, but I will asure you, the rest of the world will not agree with you. :eek2: Poor Man's Bubomb May 23rd, 2006, 07:14 PM Mauritius is so biased its unreal. He thinks Highbury is the bees knees too, this was taken from the locked emirates thread: That is because, you need a ground capacity of near 50,000+ to qualify for UEFA 5 star status. Highbury's capacity meant that this wasn't possible, nothing to do with the quality of stands or the facilities which were already first class. Don't knock Highbury, it is already universally recognised as a supurb stadium. Irrespective of what you may think Bubomb/Socrates/Ivan the Terrible or whatever you choose to call yourself these days. I know its you because you fell for my 'Ibrox' bait To which the poster Ivan Drago replied: ...Highbury is most definitely NOT universally recognised as a superb stadium. Top 10 football stadiums in Britain http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=329332 (no mention of Highbury) Now, considering the fact that England is bereft of superb football stadia (only one UEFA certified 5 star stadium and one 4 star stadium), the fact that Highbury made it onto no one's list shows that they clearly do not regard it as "superb", irrespective of what you may think, mauritius. (I just wanted to bring this to mauritius gunners attention, in case he missed it.) skaP187 May 23rd, 2006, 07:30 PM Allright allright it is a very nice stadium, but the design is a ripp off, still very nice though! (better steel good, then create bad or something like that?) Simply The Best May 23rd, 2006, 07:31 PM I can name at least 20 stadiums in Europe better than this one. Even 2 in Portugal are better. Fillet Tower May 23rd, 2006, 07:37 PM I can name at least 20 stadiums in Europe better than this one. Even 2 in Portugal are better. Wrong answer. The Dreaded QS May 23rd, 2006, 07:40 PM the concrete around the pitch maybe to do with the advertising boards. apparently they rise out of a trench (like old trafford). has any1 ever seen the emirates stadium official magazine. ive had issue 3 (from november05) and i was trying to find out how to get issue 4 which is due out in spring06 James21 May 23rd, 2006, 07:45 PM ah i didnt know thats how the advertising thing worked, makes sense! chester84 May 23rd, 2006, 07:50 PM Allright allright it is a very nice stadium, but the design is a ripp off, still very nice though! (better steel good, then create bad or something like that?) Are you refering to the Estadio de luz? If you are then I think you would like to know that the Emirates Stadium was actually designed before the Estadio de Luz. I remember reading in an early thread that the seating installation deadline is the 5th June. So we are looking at at most 13 days for completion, which seems feasible considering the rate at which the seats are being installed. In terms of the concrete around the pitch, i agree that its probably going to used for the advertising boards. James21 May 23rd, 2006, 08:02 PM Someone may find this interesting, it's the plan for the organisation of the stadium, isnt it amazing what google finds!! http://www.arsenal.com/userincludes/docs/emiratesstadium_operationsplanlicence.doc It does say on there the advertising comes out of a trench so i guess that must be what the concrete is! Also interesting that the tv gantry can be extended if they want more room or brought in if less. Othere than that a lot of pointless stuff in there but still interesting. I like the fact they control the podium but have to close it one day of the year to keep ownership, how random! tocino May 23rd, 2006, 08:11 PM I can name at least 20 stadiums in Europe better than this one. Even 2 in Portugal are better. I can think of 50. Ashburton Grove looks boring and soulless, but that's what you're going to get when you copy other stadiums. James21 May 23rd, 2006, 08:28 PM tbh in thousands of years of stadium design how is anything meant to be original? If you look at liverpool's new design its a boring 4 sided box one, old trafford is just a mass with no really interesting bit, and now looks like a mess as well. Even Wembley is hardly out there. There isnt a way to create a brand new concept, it's all been done and there are limits. It will be great because of the facilities which will only be second to wembley. I've been to quite a few of the 'great' stadiums and frankly they are crap for the fans - take the Stade de France, about 4 toilets for 4,000 fans, and no where really to eat etc, arsenal will be different to that Simply The Best May 23rd, 2006, 08:56 PM Are you refering to the Estadio de luz? If you are then I think you would like to know that the Emirates Stadium was actually designed before the Estadio de Luz.. hahahahahahahaha, that's the best one yet!! Da Luz copied Emirates!! hahahahahaha Simply The Best May 23rd, 2006, 08:58 PM well the board said they arnt trying to make the biggest or most expensive stadium but the most beautiful They failed on both counts!! Its AlL gUUd May 23rd, 2006, 09:26 PM hahahahahahahaha, that's the best one yet!! Da Luz copied Emirates!! hahahahahaha Da Luz WAS designed AFTER emirates Its AlL gUUd May 23rd, 2006, 09:27 PM Emirates will be the best club stadium in EUROPE in terms of quality James21 May 23rd, 2006, 09:29 PM well emirates was designed before da luz. I dont really see how that is funny. anyway at least we wont hear tina turner at our ground, are you still allowed to play that having not even managed 2nd tocino May 23rd, 2006, 09:33 PM Emirates will be the best club stadium in EUROPE in terms of quality quality in terms of what? Definitely not atmosphere, design, or football. Best mega video screens maybe? Its AlL gUUd May 23rd, 2006, 09:36 PM quality in terms of what? Definitely not atmosphere, design, or football. Best mega video screens maybe? i think your letting your rivalry cloud your judgement mate, if you really want to know interms of what you should look through the threads about the emirates. even i can admit its great and im not an arsenal fan tocino May 23rd, 2006, 10:12 PM i think your letting your rivalry cloud your judgement mate, if you really want to know interms of what you should look through the threads about the emirates. even i can admit its great and im not an arsenal fan there is no rivalry between United and Arsenal supporters, there was an on-pitch rivalry between the two sides but that has since all but vanished as far as Ashburton Grove goes, I find it as very boring architecture, they could've done something unique but choose not to MrCopy May 23rd, 2006, 10:19 PM Ese estadio es el del Arsenal Ingles. para cuando lo Inauguran. Saludos. mauritius gunner May 23rd, 2006, 10:24 PM Da Luz WAS designed AFTER emirates Correct, original plans for Emirates were submitted back in 1999, with the original opening date planned for the beggining of the 2004/5 season. This was even before Uefa awarded Euro 2004 to Portugal. Since the same architect designed both stadiums, it is possible that the two designs were developed in tandem, but centred around Arsenal's specification and brief. mauritius gunner May 23rd, 2006, 10:28 PM there is no rivalry between United and Arsenal supporters, there was an on-pitch rivalry between the two sides but that has since all but vanished as far as Ashburton Grove goes, I find it as very boring architecture, they could've done something unique but choose not to That's your opinioin, but it shows you know absolutely fuck all about architecture tocino May 23rd, 2006, 10:39 PM That's your opinioin, but it shows you know absolutely fuck all about architecture no need to get abusive, do it again and I'll report you maybe I should translate into portuguese for you... Ashburton Grove is unoriginal and bland and will not sellout for many fixtures Its AlL gUUd May 23rd, 2006, 10:43 PM err how many new stadiums are original? OT is original cos its been built up over the years but i would say emirates better still, although I love OT tocino May 23rd, 2006, 10:43 PM well emirates was designed before da luz. I dont really see how that is funny. :hilarious denial is not just a river in Afrika Fillet Tower May 23rd, 2006, 10:49 PM no need to get abusive, do it again and I'll report you maybe I should translate into portuguese for you... Ashburton Grove is unoriginal and bland and will not sellout for many fixtures ...And that is your hugely unbiased, Manchester United supporter opinion is it? tocino May 23rd, 2006, 10:50 PM err how many new stadiums are original? OT is original cos its been built up over the years but i would say emirates better still, although I love OT OT is original not only because of history but because of design, there is nothing else like it in Europe, it has character! Arsenal meanwhile hired some bloke to build a carbon copy of a Lisbon stadium. tocino May 23rd, 2006, 10:54 PM ...And that is your hugely unbiased, Manchester United supporter opinion is it? ok, just because I'm not some keyboard warrior cockney, my opinion is devalued? Seth Gecko May 23rd, 2006, 10:58 PM OT is original not only because of history but because of design, there is nothing else like it in Europe, it has character! http://i4.tinypic.com/10h1ybr.jpg Chunk from the Goonies probably had character too. http://www.dizzybint.com/80sMemories/Movies/goonies3.gif Roar May 23rd, 2006, 11:01 PM OT is original not only because of history but because of design, there is nothing else like it in Europe, it has character! Arsenal meanwhile hired some bloke to build a carbon copy of a Lisbon stadium. Arsenal had to move because unlike the ghetto that hideous American franchise is built in we had no room to build upon our beloved Highbury. In my opinion I think Old Trafford is a hideous but no doubt monstrous compared to Highbury, Anfield or Ashburton. Fillet Tower May 23rd, 2006, 11:02 PM ok, just because I'm not some keyboard warrior cockney, my opinion is devalued? I have diagnosed your illness here. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inferiority_complex) Now, please behave yourself. Big Jedi Knight May 23rd, 2006, 11:23 PM Yes, Old Trafford sure does have 'character'.......shame it's a shit character!! http://www.kampfleecher.de/wupperhopper/OldTrafford4.jpg http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionlisten/england/old_trafford/370.jpg http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionlisten/england/old_trafford/140.jpg Diaby May 23rd, 2006, 11:25 PM Its obvious there is a lot of jealousy at the moment. The Emirates stadium seems to be the only football stadium thread that is bombarded by rival fans, most of these haters are convinced that their stadium (WHL, OT, Ibrox) are the greatest stadiums ever built but once someone says the same about the emirates they always have a negative response. I have seen the old trafford redevelopment & WHL threads and although some arsenal fans have been guilty in saying the odd negative things here and there they have never done it in a way to ruin the thread. Big Jedi Knight May 23rd, 2006, 11:26 PM Da Luz WAS designed AFTER emirates It doesn’t matter what was designed first, it what was built first that counts. Drawings change all the time before a stadium is finalised and even during construction. The Emirates drawings in 1999 would have been changed after Da Luz was built as the architects would have learned new info from their experiences in building Da Luz. Do you honestly think the plans in 1999 did not change in 7 years???? chester84 May 23rd, 2006, 11:43 PM It doesn’t matter what was designed first, it what was built first that counts. Drawings change all the time before a stadium is finalised and even during construction. The Emirates drawings in 1999 would have been changed after Da Luz was built as the architects would have learned new info from their experiences in building Da Luz. Do you honestly think the plans in 1999 did not change in 7 years???? the plans were submitted in 1999, once submitted they are not likely to change, not by much anyway, or the whole process has to start again. You cannot change the design once a request for planning pemission has been submitted without authority. de luz and emirates have similar stadium bowls, but that is where the similarites between the two ends. If you look at roof design, exterior, interior, overall quality etc... the differences are blatently obvious. Its AlL gUUd May 23rd, 2006, 11:49 PM Why are some rival fans behaving so typically envious!! the emirates is great new stadium, live with it tocino May 24th, 2006, 12:05 AM Yes, Old Trafford sure does have 'character'.......shame it's a shit character!! you're jealous that nothing in England, Scotland, Wales, or Ireland comes close to this beaut... http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/5240/stadia7dw.jpg ...about a century older than Ashburton and it still pisses all over Arsenal's poor effort of a stadium . tocino May 24th, 2006, 12:13 AM Its obvious there is a lot of jealousy at the moment. The Emirates stadium seems to be the only football stadium thread that is bombarded by rival fans, most of these haters are convinced that their stadium (WHL, OT, Ibrox) are the greatest stadiums ever built but once someone says the same about the emirates they always have a negative response. I have seen the old trafford redevelopment & WHL threads and although some arsenal fans have been guilty in saying the odd negative things here and there they have never done it in a way to ruin the thread. FFS, did it occur to you that maybe supporters of other clubs are just disgusted with the lack of originality or the blandness of Ashburton? You are rivals with Spurs... not United, Chelsea, Rangers, or even the scousers. chester84 May 24th, 2006, 12:13 AM i love old trafford, fantastic stadium, but are you sure tocino? these pictures say different. http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/3307/image0604hu.jpg http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/7489/image0621mv.jpg http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/4641/image0831dw.jpg http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/2374/image0857cd.jpg tocino May 24th, 2006, 12:17 AM these pictures say different. Yeah they say Estadio da luz chester84 May 24th, 2006, 12:21 AM In design, both stadiums are definately not bland, not by a long way. Old Trafford has a dignified beauty, a towering and imposing stadium that MUFC and the country can be very proud of. The stadium is a landmark! Whereas Emirates is an elegant new stadium. Part of a new era of high quality, well engineered stadiums. The roof is fantastic, my favourite part of the stadium. The truss system is amazing, it's what makes the stadium for me and will give it its identity, people will recognise it for its wide truss on either length of the pitch. Both are fantastic, for seperate reasons. Seth Gecko May 24th, 2006, 12:25 AM Has anyone got a close up pic of the club seat area, and in particular the top bit, whatever that is? http://i4.tinypic.com/10h6cmr.jpg chester84 May 24th, 2006, 12:31 AM Are you trying to tell me that these two stadiums have the same design? http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/3811/porlisluz21da.jpg http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/5993/image0620xd.jpg |