old trafford is just a bigger version of elland rd. In the end all stadia will look like something else you cant get by that fact.

If arsenal had built a stadium with straight stands joined at the corners you would all be complaining it was just an attempt to copy OT or something, its a no win situation. As it is the bowl shaped arena is quite unique in english football, it's size makes it very different to bolton, jjb etc which arent really bowls anyway.

so what would u prefer, tell me how it could be unique? One massive stand of 50k? Or should they have built it with 8 different levels? Where they have been original is in the exterior and facilities. These will be better than any other ground, places like OT are very crap in some areas which are older, and other european grounds, even new ones are similar, so this is where it will be original.

But show me a stadium shaped like ashburton in english football? Cos I can show you ten shaped like OT.

Are you trying to tell me that these two stadiums have the same design?

Take away the roof and they are identical. The heart of a stadium, the actual stands, are identical!!

These are 2 new stadiums with different designs -

http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionguides/deutschland/1_fc_koeln/images/west_03.jpg

http://ocean_girl.hot.lu/users/6912/11260360726.jpg


Anybody who claims Da Luz and Emirates do not have a huge amount in common is talking out their botty. It's no bad thing copying Da Luz, as it is a superb stadium. All stadiums are influenced by other stadiums going right back to the Coliseum.

This stadium essentially has 4 tiers:

http://i4.tinypic.com/10h7o0y.jpg

What is the tiny tier for?

http://i4.tinypic.com/10h6cmr.jpg

FFS, did it occur to you that maybe supporters of other clubs are just disgusted with the lack of originality or the blandness of Ashburton?

You are rivals with Spurs... not United, Chelsea, Rangers, or even the scousers.Mate do you surely believe the rubbish you are typing? We are not rivals with United and Chelsea!?. Surely you have missed the the 98 - 2005 season for you to write that sort of rubbish. Just because the rivalry between us and United died down last season does not mean the rivalry does not exist. Chelsea have also always regarded arsenal as their main rivals, just because we have fallen behind them this season does not mean the rivalry has disappeared.
Also Rangers don't have to be direct rivals with Arsenal for a fan of theirs to dislike us, I dislike Real Madrid but it does not mean we are rivals.
You sound like an armchair supporter mate, most UTD supporters will tell you Arsenal and Man Utd are rivals.

old trafford is just a bigger version of elland rd. In the end all stadia will look like something else you cant get by that fact.

If arsenal had built a stadium with straight stands joined at the corners you would all be complaining it was just an attempt to copy OT or something, its a no win situation. As it is the bowl shaped arena is quite unique in english football, it's size makes it very different to bolton, jjb etc which arent really bowls anyway.

so what would u prefer, tell me how it could be unique? One massive stand of 50k? Or should they have built it with 8 different levels? Where they have been original is in the exterior and facilities. These will be better than any other ground, places like OT are very crap in some areas which are older, and other european grounds, even new ones are similar, so this is where it will be original.

But show me a stadium shaped like ashburton in english football? Cos I can show you ten shaped like OT.

OT a bigger elland road? Are you havin a laugh?

for english stadia, Ashburton is most similar to the Reebok

Valencia had some unique proposals... but most new stadia are crap anyway, so I would've renovated Highbury because it was a lovely stadium

I would say it has 3 tiers. Technically the North Stand at Hampden has 2 tiers, but in reality it has one big tier.

http://www.cssc.co.uk/graphics/scotland/hampden.jpg

Seth Gecko, they are the executive boxes i believe, they have the higher quality seats.(circled below)

http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/4079/emirates10050613xf.jpg

Hopefully this picture gives you a better idea.

http://img470.imageshack.us/img470/4301/image0558ir.jpg

Take away the roof and they are identical. The heart of a stadium, the actual stands, are identical!!

These are 2 new stadiums with different designs -

http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionguides/deutschland/1_fc_koeln/images/west_03.jpg

http://ocean_girl.hot.lu/users/6912/11260360726.jpg


Anybody who claims Da Luz and Emirates do not have a huge amount in common is talking out their botty. It's no bad thing copying Da Luz, as it is a superb stadium. All stadiums are influenced by other stadiums going right back to the Coliseum.

The shape of the stadium bowls are the same, everything else is completely different. Even the stands are different beneath the curve of the bowl, you can see that from the exterior. da luz used the curve of the bowl from the emirates, nothing else.

Seth Gecko, they are the executive boxes i believe, they have the higher quality seats.(circled below)

http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/4079/emirates10050613xf.jpg

Hopefully this picture gives you a better idea.

http://img470.imageshack.us/img470/4301/image0558ir.jpg
Cheers, I take it then that the tier under that is the club seats, and they have just standard run of the mill seats like everywhere else? Seems a tad strange, I would have merged the two.

I would say it has 3 tiers. Technically the North Stand at Hampden has 2 tiers, but in reality it has one big tier.

http://www.cssc.co.uk/graphics/scotland/hampden.jpg

The four tiers of seating will all be covered by a roof of approximately 30,000m2 (Football pitch covers approx 8,600m2).

Taken from here (http://www.arsenal.com/emiratesstadium/article.asp?article=Key%20Facts)

Mate do you surely believe the rubbish you are typing? We are not rivals with United and Chelsea!?. Surely you have missed the the 98 - 2005 season for you to write that sort of rubbish. Just because the rivalry between us and United died down last season does not mean the rivalry does not exist. Chelsea have also always regarded arsenal as their main rivals, just because we have fallen behind them this season does not mean the rivalry has disappeared.
Also Rangers don't have to be direct rivals with Arsenal for a fan of theirs to dislike us, I dislike Real Madrid but it does not mean we are rivals.
You sound like an armchair supporter mate, most UTD supporters will tell you Arsenal and Man Utd are rivals.

There is no rivalry between United and Arsenal. There was one on the pitch there for five years or so, but it has gone... too many players have come and gone. Remember we were about 20 points ahead of you lot this season. You may think you are our rivals but you're not. Your support never sing, at Highbury or even OT. Go on Red Issue and ask if we're rivals, and they'll think you're taking the piss.

These are our rivals in order

1. Liverpool
2. City
3. Leeds
4. The rest

The shape of the stadium bowls are the same, everything else is completely different. Even the stands are different beneath the curve of the bowl, you can see that from the exterior. da luz used the curve of the bowl from the emirates, nothing else.


The stadium bowl is the heart of the stadium...the main part of a stadium. When people think of the shape of a stadium, they think of the shape of the stands, not what is under the stand!! Why do you think every single posters first comment when they see pics of Emirates is "hey, that's identical to Da Luz"!! They even have the same architects!!

They are very similar stadiums...end of story. It's nothing to be ashamed of!! Emirates is not a new design. The fundamental design of the stadium is a carbon copy of Da Luz...and there is nothing wrong with that!!

The four tiers of seating will all be covered by a roof of approximately 30,000m2 (Football pitch covers approx 8,600m2).

Taken from here (http://www.arsenal.com/emiratesstadium/article.asp?article=Key%20Facts)


Jesus christ man. I have eyes, I can see 4 tiers!! My point is one is so small that I wouldn't class it as a tier. Just my opinion...learn to live with it.

Does the stand below have 4 tiers? Not in my opinion.


http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/park/yfh45/chelsea33.jpg

The stadium bowl is the heart of the stadium...the main part of a stadium. When people think of the shape of a stadium, they think of the shape of the stands, not what is under the stand!! Why do you think every single posters first comment when they see pics of Emirates is "hey, that's identical to Da Luz"!! They even have the same architects!!

They are very similar stadiums...end of story. It's nothing to be ashamed of!! Emirates is not a new design. The fundamental design of the stadium is a carbon copy of Da Luz...and there is nothing wrong with that!!

I am aware of the perfectly valid points you have brought up there and arsenal fans definately have nothing to be ashamed of with the new stadium. I personally take into account the stadium as a whole, not just the curve of the upper tier of the stadium and the tier structure. Its just a part of the stadium and it's obviously the first thing people see when they enter the stadium bowl. But I think the similarities will be quickly forgotten when the eye wonders to the rest of the stadium.

That's the Diamond Level executive boxes.

http://www.arsenal.com/emiratesstadium/article.asp?article=202579&Title=Executive+Boxes&lid=Navigation+thestadium

Jesus christ man. I have eyes, I can see 4 tiers!! My point is one is so small that I wouldn't class it as a tier. Just my opinion...learn to live with it.

Does the stand below have 4 tiers? Not in my opinion.


http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/park/yfh45/chelsea33.jpg

that stand technically has 4 tiers. If someone asked you "how many tiers does that stand have?" and you reply with "three" you would be wrong. you cant deny that fact, even if it looks like there are 3.

I would say 3. I may technically be wrong, but I am a man of the people!! I call a spade a spade, i'm not afraid to say what others shy away from!!

I'm hangin the hood cause i'm in a bad mood!

There is no rivalry between United and Arsenal. There was one on the pitch there for five years or so, but it has gone... too many players have come and gone. Remember we were about 20 points ahead of you lot this season. You may think you are our rivals but you're not. Your support never sing, at Highbury or even OT. Go on Red Issue and ask if we're rivals, and they'll think you're taking the piss.

These are our rivals in order

1. Liverpool
2. City
3. Leeds
4. The rest
Just because you are 20 points ahead of us does not mean that the rivalry has gone, if that is the case then Leeds are no longer your rivals. No one is begging to be your rivals but for you to say that a rivalry on pich does not transcend to the fans is absolute rubbish. I never said once that you were our main rivals (and I wouldn't put you in our top 3 rivals) but for you to dismiss us as one of the main rivals is pathetic.

Just because you are 20 points ahead of us does not mean that the rivalry has gone, if that is the case then Leeds are no longer your rivals. No one is begging to be your rivals but for you to say that a rivalry on pich does not transcend to the fans is absolute rubbish. I never said once that you were our main rivals (and I wouldn't put you in our top 3 rivals) but for you to dismiss us as one of the main rivals is pathetic.

I forgot one... marketing wise our rivals are Real Madrid

Ok then, Arsenal are more of our rivals then lets say... Newcastle

Jesus christ man. I have eyes, I can see 4 tiers!! My point is one is so small that I wouldn't class it as a tier. Just my opinion...learn to live with it.

Lucky you!

http://i4.tinypic.com/10hivpg.jpg

im sure this has been mentioned somewhere else along the copious amount of emirates stadium threads, but to clear some confusion, im guessing one of the main reasons the da luz and emirates are so similar is due to the fact their both designed by the same company!HOK

info courtesy of who else but wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HOK_Sport

I forgot one... marketing wise our rivals are Real Madrid

Ok then, Arsenal are more of our rivals then lets say... Newcastle
Exactly as you (Man Utd) are just above Sunderland in my list.

im sure this has been mentioned somewhere else along the copious amount of emirates stadium threads, but to clear some confusion, im guessing one of the main reasons the da luz and emirates are so similar is due to the fact their both designed by the same company!HOK

info courtesy of who else but wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HOK_Sport

there's other companies to choose from, and I'm sure HOK has more than one design

One design fits all .....get your stadiums direct from HOK!! Order now, and for a limited time, get a 2nd Da Luz for half price!! You can even pay in 4 easy to manage installments! HOK - quality stadiums at a price YOU can afford!

Its obvious there is a lot of jealousy at the moment. The Emirates stadium seems to be the only football stadium thread that is bombarded by rival fans, most of these haters are convinced that their stadium (WHL, OT, Ibrox) are the greatest stadiums ever built but once someone says the same about the emirates they always have a negative response.

I have seen the old trafford redevelopment & WHL threads and although some arsenal fans have been guilty in saying the odd negative things here and there they have never done it in a way to ruin the thread.

Actually, there aren't any Spurs fans posting persistently negative posts about the Emirates in this thread. I think you'll find that most of the criticism is coming from bubomb and some Man Utd fans.

I do have one or two criticisms of the Emirates (1. the sloping roof limiting the view for those in the upper tier and 2. the curvy cut outs in the upper corners being too extreme and 3. the shallow lower tier). But, overall, I can acknowledge that the Emirates will be a vast improvement on the frankly overrated Highbury and that it will launch Arsenal into the really big players' league in terms of income.

I think bubomb said it was a good stadium, good but not great! Have we all got to say it's the best stadium in the world incase Arsenal fans go home crying to their mums???

^^^ i give that guy 2 days before he gets banned

As an Arsenal fan I wouldn't say it is the best stadium in this country or the world, because it has not been used! All stadiums have borrowed something from somewhere else, the questions is have the architects and engineers improved on those ideas. I haven't read the Wembley thread, but am I correct in thinking that the people who criticise the Emirates have done so on that thread? I take it they will also not be visiting either stadiums through their dislike for both!

To remind a few Arsenal had no choice but to move, I think a few are worried because each time we do manage to sell out we will make vastly more money than any other team in the country. For a club which has to make do with a capacity of 38,500, we have punched above our weight for a long time, yes I would be worried if I supported Man Utd because a lot of your income will be going to pay of the debt of the Glazer's.

As an Arsenal fan I wouldn't say it is the best stadium in this country or the world, because it has not been used!

Exactly! One can only get a clear idea how good/impressive a stadium really is when they visit the place. For instance, Old Trafford is a great place to watch football, but over-rated in terms of quality. I have a feeling the Emirates may be the opposite of both, great for making money from the yuppies but not so good for the average fan. But we will soon see.

I also see no problem selling out for most, if not all matches at least for the next couple of seasons.

It is now sold out, with a waiting list on the executive boxes and a three hundred on the waiting list for club level and growing, all season tickets have been allocated and i think they only made it about 8-10k down the waiting list, so there are still plenty more there!

That is the executive box tier, there is a seperate area on the halfway line which has the 'diamond club' which i think you have to be invited to, it's a 25k upfront payment with then another 75k upfront for the first three seasons. Spare change isnt it? The reason the seats are different is that those boxes are permanantly covered so dont need weather proof seats, and people in those boxes have paid a ridiculous amount!

Someone mentioned they would rather have renovated highbury well as shown above that was never an option, im sure most people would prefer than but being impossible it couldnt happen.

I do have one or two criticisms of the Emirates (1. the sloping roof limiting the view for those in the upper tier and 2

Thats the only main difference from the Luz to Emirates, the roof, & I must say although its sloping, visualy it does look better than the one in Lisbon.
Its still a fantastic stadium & as I said in the previous Emirates thread, Arsenal & Bolton are the only 2 premiership sides that have brand new state of the art mordern stadiums, not that the others are all rubbish.

So tocino pleez shut it with ur old trafford talk, save it for the OT thread.

I wonder if those coverings are going to come off revealing some kind of Logo?

Is this thread some sort of broken record??

Emirates carbon copy estadio da luz, no it isn't, reason given
Emirates carbon copy estadio da luz, no it isn't, reason given
Emirates carbon copy estadio da luz, no it isn't, reason given
Emirates carbon copy estadio da luz, no it isn't, reason given

SHUT UP, OR TRY TO BOTHER READING THE THREAD PREVIOUS TO THIS!

Is this thread some sort of broken record??

Emirates carbon copy estadio da luz, no it isn't, reason given
Emirates carbon copy estadio da luz, no it isn't, reason given
Emirates carbon copy estadio da luz, no it isn't, reason given
Emirates carbon copy estadio da luz, no it isn't, reason given

SHUT UP, OR TRY TO BOTHER READING THE THREAD PREVIOUS TO THIS!

Nice stadium, but I think it is a copy of the estadio da luz... :bash:

No but to be fare, it is a great stadium, def. progress from where Arsenal came from despite the history.
Are there options to expend the stadium if nescesarry or is this it?

Its obvious there is a lot of jealousy at the moment. The Emirates stadium seems to be the only football stadium thread that is bombarded by rival fans, most of these haters are convinced that their stadium (WHL, OT, Ibrox) are the greatest stadiums ever built but once someone says the same about the emirates they always have a negative response.

I have seen the old trafford redevelopment & WHL threads and although some arsenal fans have been guilty in saying the odd negative things here and there they have never done it in a way to ruin the thread.

Sitback would never stop I remember for months it would be him saying this and him saying that on the WHL thread. As far as I'm concerned all as bad as each other.

Nice stadium, but I think it is a copy of the estadio da luz... :bash:

Da Luz is a copy of Emirates actually, they have the same designers anyway

To the goons getting pissed of with people saying that The Eimrates is a copy of the Estaio da Luz.

You might find it annoying with people saying that the Emirates is a copy of the EDL when you shouldn't. Both stadiums are class and to be honest apart from the the teirs there nothing else that is the same. The roof is very different and the exteria is very different.

Emirates
http://www.arsenal.com/images/emiratesstadium/emirates23122005_1x.jpg
http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/3307/image0604hu.jpg
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/4641/image0831dw.jpg

Estadio Da Luz
http://www.stadiumguide.com/lisboa9.jpg
http://p.vtourist.com/1521661-Travel_Picture-View_from_Restuarant.jpg
http://www.em2004.de/images/stadt/lissaluz1.jpg

Apart from the seating plan is there anything else that is the same? In my opinion no.

Tottenham's plans for a new West stand look a bit like the West stand at Stamford bridge if someone was to point that out would I get pissed off? No. I'm more than sure that you can ignore these silly comments of the Emirates being a copy of EDL :)

is there gonna be any seat designs?

2005, that was a very good post. i am pleasantly surprised

is there gonna be any seat designs?
I hope not. in my opinion a stadium is cheapened immeasurably by giant lettering on the seats. Its best to have every seat the same colour, and white dividing staircases. Much classier.

eg
good/classy =
http://webzoom.freewebs.com/invictaloyal/The%20temple%20that%20is%20Ibrox.JPG

bad/cheap =
http://www.netsport.ro/data/news/articole/Echipe-Fotbal/Anglia/Stadium/Old-Trafford.jpg

I hope not. in my opinion a stadium is cheapened immeasurably by giant lettering on the seats. Its best to have every seat the same colour, and white dividing staircases. Much classier.

eg
good/classy =
http://webzoom.freewebs.com/invictaloyal/The%20temple%20that%20is%20Ibrox.JPG

bad/cheap =
http://www.netsport.ro/data/news/articole/Echipe-Fotbal/Anglia/Stadium/Old-Trafford.jpg

every chance you get ey, soc? thought you had improved :no:

My point is that this EDL and Emirates comparison keeps coming up all the time, like a broken record. What's the point in raising this argument again and again, when its already been answered?

P.S. Hello again, Socrates!

My point is that this EDL and Emirates comparison keeps coming up all the time, like a broken record. What's the point in raising this argument again and again, when its already been answered?

P.S. Hello again, Socrates!

Exactly.

Both stadiums look nothing like each other.

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_menu/past_future/pictures/past_stadiums/lisbon_luz1.jpg

http://www.byrne-bros.co.uk/showcase/arsenal2.jpg

;)

you're jealous that nothing in England, Scotland, Wales, or Ireland comes close to this beaut...

http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/5240/stadia7dw.jpg


...about a century older than Ashburton and it still pisses all over Arsenal's poor effort of a stadium




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Honest question. Are you some type of cunt? You are ain't you? That is an ugly stadium, always has been. The only thing it has going for it is it's scale. Looks like a turd on the Emirates shoe you stupid pillock.

Honest question. Are you some type of cunt? You are ain't you? That is an ugly stadium, always has been. The only thing it has going for it is it's scale. Looks like a turd on the Emirates shoe you stupid pillock.
http://revistes.upc.es/mediawiki/images/7/70/Rofl2.jpg

Hello Everyone, Ive been reading your threads and I thought I might be able to contribute. About the comparison between Emirates and I think its the benfica stadium. (correct me if Im wrong) but when I went to choose my season ticket the Arsenal staff were actually showing me pictures of it to show the comparisons. So what if they look the same. I think there both cool. I went to Highbury for years and in that time I sat in some really pants seats with a terrible view so roll on the new stadium. Yes the roof is odd but if it improvess the pitch... Ps. Im new to all this thread stuff. How can I post a picture on this thing?

Hello Everyone, Ive been reading your threads and I thought I might be able to contribute. About the comparison between Emirates and I think its the benfica stadium. (correct me if Im wrong) but when I went to choose my season ticket the Arsenal staff were actually showing me pictures of it to show the comparisons. So what if they look the same. I think there both cool. I went to Highbury for years and in that time I sat in some really pants seats with a terrible view so roll on the new stadium. Yes the roof is odd but if it improvess the pitch... Ps. Im new to all this thread stuff. How can I post a picture on this thing?

Bloody goons always know nothing ;)


Click on the image box.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d157/Ginola90/untitled11122gf.jpg

Then type the addrees of the pic into the image box.
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d157/Ginola90/untitled24435.jpg

And hey presto.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d157/Ginola90/brazileng.jpg

Honest question. Are you some type of cunt? You are ain't you? That is an ugly stadium, always has been. The only thing it has going for it is it's scale. Looks like a turd on the Emirates shoe you stupid pillock.



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Exhihit A why posters shouldn't be biased or else their posts are deluded.

You are jealous of United. You are jealous of United's success. You are jealous United are much bigger than your club and always will be. You are jealous that OT has character and is imposing unlike your new plastic stadium. You are jealous that our support takes the piss out of yours for 90 minutes home and away.

You are going to be banned, because of abusive language. Bye bye.

i quite like the fact that arsenal have managed to compete with team of multiple income all these years.

but anyway....

a company called Alma Media Internation do a prity interesting magazine of the construction, infrastructure and commercial issues to do with Emirates Stadium. I believe they do 1 for wembley aswell. The only problem is i dont know how to get it because its only really distributed to stadium owners, architects etc.

Emirates
http://www.arsenal.com/images/emiratesstadium/emirates23122005_1x.jpg
http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/3307/image0604hu.jpg
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/4641/image0831dw.jpg

Estadio Da Luz
http://www.stadiumguide.com/lisboa9.jpg
http://p.vtourist.com/1521661-Travel_Picture-View_from_Restuarant.jpg
http://www.em2004.de/images/stadt/lissaluz1.jpg

Estadio

http://www.in.gr/news/Reviews/Review534204/assets/Luz.jpg

Ashburton

http://www.awimb.com/emAlbum/albums/Ashburton%20Grove/ag018.jpg


Fill in the red for Ashburton and I think they look identacle. Too bad Arsenal have no ambition to build something new, something bold, something original.

Lame, fack off.

Lame, fack off.

Excuse me? What does your post have to do with Asburton or this discussion?

First of all if you cant see a difference between those pictures you are blind. The exteriors are completely different. The roofs are completeley different. The only thing that is the same is the bowl shape.

Smothing New, bold and original?

Describe what that would look like to me? Name a stadium in England that has the same design as the emirates, you cant. There are few alternatives. Yes it looks like a stadium in Portugal, but how are you supposed to avoid being like a stadium in any country in the world.

The size of the site, and its shape, meant an oval shaped stadium had to be built. It couldnt have one giant stand ala OT, Elland Rd, Stadium of Light, Chelsea, Tottenham, Newcastle, and then north bank style end tiers like OT, Villa Park, Anfield.

If arsenal had built something like that everyone would be saying, oh isnt that boring, just like any other english ground. Instead they have tried something a bit different for English football, without the square shape that everywhere else have. Fuck sake if you cant be any where near similar to any ground in the world without being boring then every stadium is boring.

Oh and as for man u fans singing, that one made me laugh. Even one of your greatest players called you a prawn sandwich munching brigade so dont make me laugh.

First of all if you cant see a difference between those pictures you are blind. The exteriors are completely different. The roofs are completeley different. The only thing that is the same is the bowl shape.

Smothing New, bold and original?

Describe what that would look like to me? Name a stadium in England that has the same design as the emirates, you cant. There are few alternatives. Yes it looks like a stadium in Portugal, but how are you supposed to avoid being like a stadium in any country in the world.

The size of the site, and its shape, meant an oval shaped stadium had to be built. It couldnt have one giant stand ala OT, Elland Rd, Stadium of Light, Chelsea, Tottenham, Newcastle, and then north bank style end tiers like OT, Villa Park, Anfield.

If arsenal had built something like that everyone would be saying, oh isnt that boring, just like any other english ground. Instead they have tried something a bit different for English football, without the square shape that everywhere else have. Fuck sake if you cant be any where near similar to any ground in the world without being boring then every stadium is boring.

Oh and as for man u fans singing, that one made me laugh. Even one of your greatest players called you a prawn sandwich munching brigade so dont make me laugh.

Valencia has some bold and unique proposals as do the hungarians and croats for Euro 2012.

Listen no one said stadia cannot look similar to one another. OT shares similarites with celtic park and st james, however they do not look identical. The Estadio and Ashburton look identical and to make things worse, only 3 years later by the same architect Ashburton was built! Thats very poor if you ask me.

As far as support goes... MUFC would never have a soccer am/sky-made tshirt display... and you obviously haven't been to any MUFC-Arsenal fixtures recently. Anyone remember Villa Park? SHALL WE SING A SONG FOR YOU? Yes, OT is not up for fixtures against the likes of Charlton and Portsmouth but thats because they mean nothing to us, but for the big matches it's still special. And the MUFC away support is second to none. You lot have about 3 songs and you rarely ever sing them.

First of all if you cant see a difference between those pictures you are blind. The exteriors are completely different. The roofs are completeley different. The only thing that is the same is the bowl shape.

Smothing New, bold and original?

Describe what that would look like to me? Name a stadium in England that has the same design as the emirates, you cant. There are few alternatives. Yes it looks like a stadium in Portugal, but how are you supposed to avoid being like a stadium in any country in the world.

The size of the site, and its shape, meant an oval shaped stadium had to be built. It couldnt have one giant stand ala OT, Elland Rd, Stadium of Light, Chelsea, Tottenham, Newcastle, and then north bank style end tiers like OT, Villa Park, Anfield.

If arsenal had built something like that everyone would be saying, oh isnt that boring, just like any other english ground. Instead they have tried something a bit different for English football, without the square shape that everywhere else have. Fuck sake if you cant be any where near similar to any ground in the world without being boring then every stadium is boring.

Oh and as for man u fans singing, that one made me laugh. Even one of your greatest players called you a prawn sandwich munching brigade so dont make me laugh.

Perhaps Tocino would feel more at home if they built some un-even quandrants on to the stadium.

Perhaps Tocino would feel more at home if they built some un-even quandrants on to the stadium.

Perhaps Fillet Tower would feel more at home if Skycrapercity had no discussion, total silence, just like Highbury on a matchday.

As far as support goes... MUFC would never have a soccer am/sky-made tshirt display... and you obviously haven't been to any MUFC-Arsenal fixtures recently. Anyone remember Villa Park? SHALL WE SING A SONG FOR YOU? Yes, OT is not up for fixtures against the likes of Charlton and Portsmouth but thats because they mean nothing to us, but for the big matches it's still special. And the MUFC away support is second to none. You lot have about 3 songs and you rarely ever sing them.
Aren't you the same muppet who was telling me we werent rivals yesterday but you tend to bring up the rivalry in all your posts. It doesn't take a fool to sense the bitterness you have towards arsenal in your posts.

Perhaps Fillet Tower would feel more at home if Skycrapercity had no discussion, total silence, just like Highbury on a matchday.

At least we're a footbal club and not a franchise. Get over it,your day''s are up.

im afraid the only way u r going 2 get rid of this lost manc fan is if u STOP REPLYING 2 HIS POSTS! he knows his arguements r weak and thats y he is posting on a construction forum rather than a footballing 1.

back to emirates........

i went past the north bridge entrance building the other day. Its definatly unusual (and green at the moment) but it still looks prity good. the northern traingle is looking prity funky aswell

Aren't you the same muppet who was telling me we werent rivals yesterday but you tend to bring up the rivalry in all your posts. It doesn't take a fool to sense the bitterness you have towards arsenal in your posts.

It's what I call "little man syndrome" they are bitter and hateful. What I can't understand is how he comes on here foaming at the mouth (apparently) saying we are jealous that they have scraped a few more trophies than we have. I am confident we can surpass their success within 10 Years. They fear Arsene with a budget half the size of theirs.

Another thing I would Like to point out is until 1967 Arsenal had been Champions 7 times compared to Uniteds once. So as far as history is concerned Highbury owns that part of the century as far as History is concerned.

The Northern Triangle is a bit odd I must say, although I will reserve judgement till it's finished, of course if they want to fit a few more flats in they could always wack on a quadrant that isnt really attached to anything and looks ridiculous. Was the HQ building nearly finished? Probably just the quadrant to go i suppose.

To the goons getting pissed of with people saying that The Eimrates is a copy of the Estaio da Luz.

You might find it annoying with people saying that the Emirates is a copy of the EDL when you shouldn't. Both stadiums are class and to be honest apart from the the teirs there nothing else that is the same. The roof is very different and the exteria is very different.

Emirates
http://www.arsenal.com/images/emiratesstadium/emirates23122005_1x.jpg
http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/3307/image0604hu.jpg
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/4641/image0831dw.jpg

Estadio Da Luz
http://www.stadiumguide.com/lisboa9.jpg
http://p.vtourist.com/1521661-Travel_Picture-View_from_Restuarant.jpg
http://www.em2004.de/images/stadt/lissaluz1.jpg

Apart from the seating plan is there anything else that is the same? In my opinion no.

Tottenham's plans for a new West stand look a bit like the West stand at Stamford bridge if someone was to point that out would I get pissed off? No. I'm more than sure that you can ignore these silly comments of the Emirates being a copy of EDL :)

Great post 2005, those pictures prove the point i was trying to get across last night perfectly.

. And the MUFC away support is second to none.
http://i4.tinypic.com/10mu9t3.jpg

^^ haha

It's what I call "little man syndrome" they are bitter and hateful. What I can't understand is how he comes on here foaming at the mouth (apparently) saying we are jealous that they have scraped a few more trophies than we have. I am confident we can surpass their success within 10 Years. They fear Arsene with a budget half the size of theirs.

Another thing I would Like to point out is until 1967 Arsenal had been Champions 7 times compared to Uniteds once. So as far as history is concerned Highbury owns that part of the century as far as History is concerned.

little man syndrome? ha.

Honours
First Division and Premier League[3] titles: 15
1908, 1911, 1952, 1956, 1957, 1965, 1967, 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2003
Football League Second Division[4] 2
1936, 1975
FA Cup 11¹
1909, 1948, 1963, 1977, 1983, 1985, 1990, 1994, 1996, 1999, 2004
League Cup 2
1992, 2006
UEFA Champions League 2
1967-68, 1998-99
UEFA Cup Winners' Cup 1
1991
Intercontinental Cup 1¹
1999
European Super Cup 1
1991
FA Community Shield 15¹
1908, 1911, 1952, 1956, 1957, 1965*, 1967*, 1977*, 1983, 1990*, 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 2003 (* joint holders)
BBC Sports Personality of the Year Team Award 2
1968, 1999

Come back to me when you win the Champions league.

im not 2 sure about the hq building. i couldnt tel if it had a temp green covering over stainless steel or if it was bracketing for another type of cladding, or even if it was finished like that.

hopefully the liverpool pictorial guy can get a few pictures of it and the northern triangle building next time. i would take some pictures, but its such a pain trying to park ur car in that area.

i must say the seating area in da luz looks brilliant. im glad emirates will b like that. in fact it shuld look even better with a perfectly flat roof. looks very classy.

http://i4.tinypic.com/10mu9t3.jpg

beware the Rangers the mighty Rangers, they took the stretty two years ago you know :lol:

little man syndrome? ha.


calm down
Manutd a big franchise
http://i71.imagethrust.com/t/35277/cmer.jpg (http://i71.imagethrust.com/images/9aZ/view-image/c-mer.html)
respect

and now go away

Great post 2005, those pictures prove the point i was trying to get across last night perfectly.

they prove that they look exactly the same

tocino mate, your turning into a MASSIVE troll on this thread, why not use your love for OT Man U as a positive instead of looking at Emirates as the new kid on the block which might steal Man U's thunder, thats the only reason i can think of why your attacking the emirates and arsenal with this useless drivel. Sorry but it had to be said

I support man u and i can still give credit where its due.

Aren't you the same muppet who was telling me we werent rivals yesterday but you tend to bring up the rivalry in all your posts. It doesn't take a fool to sense the bitterness you have towards arsenal in your posts.

we aren't rivals, I;m just pointing out the obvious, that Arsenal copyed Benfica

tocino mate, your turning into a MASSIVE troll, why not use your love for OT Man U as a positive instead of looking at Emirates as the new kid on the block which might steal Man U's thunder, thats the only reason i can think of why your attacking the emirates and arsenal with this useless drivel. Sorry but it had to be said

I support man u and i can give credit where its due.

You support "man u" ? Don't the yanks and ABU's call us that?

I'm a troll for criticizing Arsenal for hiring Benfica's architect to rebuild Benfica's stadium just 3 years later. Ok, what ever you say mate.

they prove that they look exactly the same

NO it doesn't, they look similar. Two different stadiums.

Admin if your are any good, ban this guy right away.

You support "man u" ? Don't the yanks and ABU's call us that?

I'm a troll for criticizing Arsenal for hiring Benfica's architect to rebuild Benfica's stadium just 3 years later. Ok, what ever you say mate.

well if you want to say something at least get it right, Emirates was designed first

you don't need to use your sporting allegiances to judge something architecturally, and cos of you people have started to slag off Man U, you must be well pleased

beware the Rangers the mighty Rangers, they took the stretty two years ago you know :lol:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=zfedYPqCuyA&search=rangers%20manchester

Distinct lack of decorum from a Manchester United fan towards the end, probably jealous at the awesome display of fan solidarity.

We are the people. Do not fuck with us.

NO it doesn't, they look similar. Two different stadiums.

Admin if your are any good, ban this guy right away.

ban me? ban me for having a differing opinion? I have not called anyone a 'cunt' like Sitback has. I have already pmed the admin about that and hopefully he will sort it out soon.

socrates don't start this up mate, Man U probably has the most fans in the world but lets stay On the EMIRATES

Only thing good about Old Trafford is we took their title on that architectually speaking "Pile 'O' Shite".

well if you want to say something at least get it right, Emirates was designed first

you don't need to use your sporting allegiances to judge something architecturally, and cos of you people have started to slag off Man U, you must be well pleased

if it was designed first then why was Estadio built 3 years before?

aresnal and rangers spam the OT thread, going on and on about how it's such an ugly and horrible stadium, why can't I give my opinion about Ashburton then?

socrates don't start this up mate, Man U probably has the most fans in the world but lets stay On the EMIRATES
Doesn't make them the best though.

Doesn't make them the best though.

yea, Celtic are the best :)

if it was designed first then why was Estadio built 3 years before?

aresnal and rangers spam the OT thread, going on and on about how it's such an ugly and horrible stadium, why can't I give my opinion about Ashburton then?

why would you stoop to their level just for revenge?

OT is an awesome arena to play football in: the "Theatre Of Dreams"
Emirates is just built to a higher spec

end of.










please

if it was designed first then why was Estadio built 3 years before?

aresnal and rangers spam the OT thread, going on and on about how it's such an ugly and horrible stadium, why can't I give my opinion about Ashburton then?

cos the quadrants look terrible and emirates is beautiful

emirates is a great stadium..end it

plz dont make this thread so bad that its beyond repair

ban me? ban me for having a differing opinion? I have not called anyone a 'cunt' like Sitback has. I have already pmed the admin about that and hopefully he will sort it out soon.

Justified in my opinion for being such a pretentious imbecile. Trying to antagonise the general viewers of this thread by claiming that the Estadio da Luz and Ashburton Grove are the same stadium when clearly they have their differences while the Da luz is based on our design.

why would you stoop to their level just for revenge?


they have no basis for their lunacy, OT is the best stadia in England, it's original and it has characterm and the design is second to none. Do they not remember what OT looked like just 15 years ago?

however I have a legitimate point about Ashburton, there is no denying it looks very much like Estadio. Now whether you still like the stadium even though it is a replica model, is up to you, personally I do not, but point is it still looks almost identical with Estadio

^^ hes causing a fuss on purpose

Some of you need to lighten up. This is like playing with a bunch of 2 year olds.

"He called me a name!"

http://i4.tinypic.com/10n5bo0.jpg

cos the quadrants look terrible and emirates is beautiful

they'll never learn

it wud have made more sense if there was an arsenal player

because if you had read the thread rather than just posting random shite you would have notice many many times the comment that arsenal first submitted plans for emirates in 1999, well before the da luz. The fact it has taken longer to build means nothing, it was still designed before.

If maybe you had actually paid some attention rather than stupidly trolling it wouldnt be a problem, now either go back and sit in your crap looking quadrant or sod off back to florida with the rest of your 'fans'

Justified in my opinion for being such a pretentious imbecile. Trying to antagonise the general viewers of this thread by claiming that the Estadio da Luz and Ashburton Grove are the same stadium when clearly they have their differences while the Da luz is based on our design.

what differences, the shade of red?

they both are designed by the same architect

they both have 3 tiers with a little mini one right above the second

they both have an absence of seats in the 3rd tier corners

the rooves look similar

exterior, yes they do look different... however on the interior there is very little seperating them

I keep hearing Estadio is based on Ashburton. Why did Arsenal wait for so long to build the stadium and why did they not complain when allegedlly Benfica copyed them?

If maybe you had actually paid some attention rather than stupidly trolling it wouldnt be a problem, now either go back and sit in your crap looking quadrant or sod off back to florida with the rest of your 'fans'

ycnmiu!

So posters who dislike Ashburton should be banned, while posters who dislike the quads are fine.

Answer my question, why did Arsenal hold off for so long if they had this great looking stadium planned and just let Benfica steal their idea and beat them by 3 years?

what differences, the shade of red?

they both are designed by the same architect

they both have 3 tiers with a little mini one right above the second

they both have an absence of seats in the 3rd tier corners

the rooves look similar

exterior, yes they do look different... however on the interior there is very little seperating them

I keep hearing Estadio is based on Ashburton. Why did Arsenal wait for so long to build the stadium and why did they not complain when allegedlly Benfica copyed them?


Its not as if David Dein and the rest of the Arsenal board designed the stadium themselves. The company that built it would have done this and Benfica certainly wouldn't have stole any plans.
I believe it took long to start building the stadium because of planning permision etc etc. Local residents were complaining and all that jazz.

ok even if they do look the same..who cares

its the fans that make the stadium wat it is..the cheers, the atmosphere, the fans

you wouldnt find that anywhere except england or more precisely the premiership

Its not as if David Dein and the rest of the Arsenal board designed the stadium themselves. The company that built it would have done this and Benfica certainly wouldn't have stole any plans.
I believe it took long to start building the stadium because of planning permision etc etc. Local residents were complaining and all that jazz.

Thanks. I did not know local residents were against the new stadium being built, but that would explain things. With that being said, I'm still not drooling over Ashburton like everyone else, because I generally don't like new stadia. Look at some of the new stuff being built... Walkers Stadium, the Riverside, madjeski, etc. however Sunderland did a good job.

ok even if they do look the same..who cares

its the fans that make the stadium wat it is..the cheers, the atmosphere, the fans

you wouldnt find that anywhere except england or more precisely the premiership

^^
I finally agree with someone in this thread. :eek2:

Highbury was a great stadium though, even though it didn't have an atmosphere.

ok even if they do look the same..who cares

its the fans that make the stadium wat it is..the cheers, the atmosphere, the fans

you wouldnt find that anywhere except england or more precisely the premiership
Oh dear. Blinkers on by the sound of it.

Oh dear. Blinkers on by the sound of it.

i was expecting something from you, but atleast its not the "other' guy, he would have gone off his head!

^^
I finally agree with someone in this thread. :eek2:

Highbury was a great stadium though, even though it didn't have an atmosphere.

OMG u finally agrred with someone

i was expecting something from you, but atleast its not the "other' guy, he would have gone off his head!
I thought I was the "other guy". You usually refer to him by name and me as the "other"

I thought I was the "other guy". You usually refer to him by name and me as the "other"

oh yeah, i did call you the "other guy" the other time, but i thought you might be feeling a bit left out so..

btw i think sidekick would be more suited though

i was expecting something from you, but atleast its not the "other' guy, he would have gone off his head!
With good reason. Thats the good thing about Bubomb, he doesn't suffer fools gladly.

I haven't bothered to read all the inane comments that have been spewed onto this thread like so much puke coming from a drunk, but I can tell that the last two pages or so have been filled with irrelevant nonsense and bickering that has nothing to do with the Emirates stadium, and I have so far refused to get involved in it in the hope that it might get back on track, but it has been officially hyjacked now and it has gotta stop!

Why is it that every Emirates stadium thread attracts so much nonsense and crap...it's like a magnet for idiotic comments. I suspect that the colossus of cretins formally known as BuBomb has a lot to do with it, but he is deffinitely not the only one who has dragged this thread off topic.

I would suggest to a mod that this thread be closed and a new one started...again!...unless the problem very quickly sorts itself out, cus I don't like coming onto this thread every day hoping to find new developments on the stadium to find people bitching about God knows what!

ok even if they do look the same..who cares

its the fans that make the stadium wat it is..the cheers, the atmosphere, the fans

you wouldnt find that anywhere except england or more precisely the premiership

Aye mate, it'e electric!!!


http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/icliverpool/sep2005/2/2/000E26A7-5A69-1332-AD970C02AC1BF824.jpg

http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/icteesside/dec2005/8/3/000C34D1-2E7F-13B1-B9160C01AC1BF814.jpg

http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionlisten/england/ewood_park/170.jpg

http://imagebank.ipcmedia.com/imageBank/b/blackburn-newcastle.jpg


Auschwitz has a better atmosphere than most Premiership games!! English fans must be the most drab looking fans in Europe. Look at the huddled masses below!! I've seen more colour in Nelson Mandela's bum crack!!!!

http://www.picturesofengland.com/pictures/500/Riverside_Stadium_Middlesbrough_1130154784.jpg


Please sir, can I have some more!!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/learningenglish/images/oliver-twist.jpg


Check the link below to see fans who don't look like they are at a funeral -

http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=322993

I haven't bothered to read all the inane comments that have been spewed onto this thread like so much puke coming from a drunk, but I can tell that the last two pages or so have been filled with irrelevant nonsense and bickering that has nothing to do with the Emirates stadium, and I have so far refused to get involved in it in the hope that it might get back on track, but it has been officially hyjacked now and it has gotta stop!

Why is it that every Emirates stadium thread attracts so much nonsense and crap...it's like a magnet for idiotic comments. I suspect that the colossus of cretins formally known as BuBomb has a lot to do with it, but he is deffinitely not the only one who has dragged this thread off topic.

I would suggest to a mod that this thread be closed and a new one started...again!...unless the problem very quickly sorts itself out, cus I don't like coming onto this thread every day hoping to find new developments on the stadium to find people bitching about God knows what!


Bubomb hasn't been on this thread for ages........you cock jockey!!! All the trolling is from English plums!!

Let's start over now eh???? If that Cretin Posts on Here Please do not reply.

The Jumbotrons have Nike logo's on them. They're nearly ready. At pitch Level the whole seating area is visible.

http://www.awimb.com/fudforum/index.php?t=msg&th=137857&start=0&rid=2205&S=96d42a963b7e04d5c93b270101ad9cdd

Couple more pics, you can see the nike tick on the screens. You can also see the trench where the advertising boards are going to come out from, although that still leaves the big concrete bit which i dont understand

Grass is looking good though!

are those monitors HD?their looking really nice though, especially in the widescreen format

eeeh this stadium looks kind o' formelier... Didn't we have a thread about this one allready or was that one wasted again?

what are the the test matches they are going to carry out before the Bergkamp testimonial in July

there are 400 odd hd tvs throughout the stadium, the big screens are 'diamond vision' by mitsubishi, see here for more details http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?thisNav=&article=375628

should be much clearer and the fact they are 72m compared to 40m at highbury is good news!

There is going to be a members day, which they used to have at highbury, where 20,000 members will be invited to watch the team train, then the db testimonial which will be 40,000 and then the first game at 60,000, so there wont be a friendly with a capacity of 20k, i think the members day is a good idea

what are the the test matches they are going to carry out before the Bergkamp testimonial in July
"test matches" why? what could possibly wrong that they have to have "test matches"?

Oh & if that dumbass MOFO I mean MUFC idiot comes here again, I'd say we ban him!

Does anyone know what date the members day is? Will need to book the day off!

"test matches" why? what could possibly wrong that they have to have "test matches"?

Oh & if that dumbass MOFO I mean MUFC idiot comes here again, I'd say we ban him!

to test safety, facilities etc

e.g. wembley will have smaller matches taking place to test things out before opening it up for the full 90,000

I'm not sure when it is, you get invited and i think they have extended to deadline of when seasons tickets have to be paid for so i dont think we will know till after than, but i would guess the beginning of july, although there wont be many first team players around cos of the world cup

SO what is the average "gooner" going to call this place? Is it to be Emirates or Ashburton Grove?

If Emirates sticks then they will have a problem when it comes to renaming it again.

Let's start over now eh???? If that Cretin Posts on Here Please do not reply.

The Jumbotrons have Nike logo's on them. They're nearly ready. At pitch Level the whole seating area is visible.



Roar,,any friendlies lined up,or willt he first game be opening dau of the Prerm(i know Prem clubs don't normally play pre-season games at home)
there is talk of QPR and Arsenal plaing a charity match

There are so many Emirates threads now.

Still think it is a Benfica ripp of, and you can say what you want, but at least I am staying on the topic! nice Stadium! (gooooooood ripp of hehehe)

Wait, i thought Roar just made one?

thanks james, and thanks awimb.com:

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/861/arsenalemirates1145gf.jpg

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/5622/arsenalemirates1129mw.jpg

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/6798/arsenalemirates1076rh.jpg

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/2847/arsenalemirates1040pf.jpg

Club Level Sold Out (http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?thisNav=News&article=389417&lid=NewsHeadline&Title=Emirates+Stadium+Club+Level+Sold+Out)

Still think it is a Benfica ripp of, and you can say what you want, but at least I am staying on the topic! nice Stadium! (gooooooood ripp of hehehe)

Right you've made your point now don't say it again.

Even if it was a Benfica rip off it would have been a good template as the Benfica Stadium is one of the finest in the world.

Roar,,any friendlies lined up,or willt he first game be opening dau of the Prerm(i know Prem clubs don't normally play pre-season games at home)
there is talk of QPR and Arsenal plaing a charity match

I don't think so mate.

I wonder if this stadium will get to host an FA Cup semi final next year. I heard a while back that once Wembley is complete the Millenium Stadium would be used for the Semi's but I think that was just a rumour and not set in stone.

By the way those pictures are fantastic, thanks!

The pitch looks great and the seats are very close to the pitch, a lot closer than I thought they would be anyway.

Those HD jumbotrons look excellent, has anyone signed up for red or silver membership yet?

Let's make this thread work well. Only months now to the first kick off, afterwards I am sure the thread will be less active.

Regarding those idiots out there, ignore them and let's set a good example, worthy of our brilliant football team

Right you've made your point now don't say it again.

Even if it was a Benfica rip off it would have been a good template as the Benfica Stadium is one of the finest in the world.

You're absolutely right mate! And so Arsenal will get one of the finest in the world to, maybe even the upgraded version.
I like the rooth of the arsenal stadium better then the Benfica one.
Question, Is there any possebilletey of extending the stadium?
To let's say 70.000.? Filling up the corners is that possible?
Things like that have they been counted for in the original design, or is this it.
(which is worldclass by the way)

You're absolutely right mate! And so Arsenal will get one of the finest in the world to, maybe even the upgraded version.
I like the rooth of the arsenal stadium better then the Benfica one.
Question, Is there any possebilletey of extending the stadium?
To let's say 70.000.? Filling up the corners is that possible?
Things like that have they been counted for in the original design, or is this it.
(which is worldclass by the way)

There is...

Add another ring around the top level of the stadium leaving the gap that was there before for the air tunnel. This would be built on a concrete stair way/tower. The roof could be then hoisted up to this level with attachments which would keep the essentially two structures shelltered. This would be akin to the San Siro Design.

This would take capacity to around 82 - 91K !!!! It's possible!!!! Although the main obsticles to that would be the small concourse area and the council.

There is...

Add another ring around the top level of the stadium leaving the gap that was there before for the air tunnel. This would be built on a concrete stair way/tower. The roof could be then hoisted up to this level with attachments which would keep the essentially two structures shelltered. This would be akin to the San Siro Design.

This would take capacity to around 82 - 91K !!!! It's possible!!!! Although the main obsticles to that would be the small concourse area and the council.

Theoretically that could be done, but it would be extremely difficult and ridiculously expensive, so i strongly doubt it ever would. 'Hoisting' the roof wouldn't happen, a structure of that size and shape could never be lifted up, it would have to be pushed up from underneath using some kind of hydraulic system, or possilbly a system similar to that of raising the height of a crane but on a more complex level. Also cranes would not be able to position the concrete sections that would make up the new upper tier as the roof would be in the way.

Does anyone know of the details of dugouts for the teams? Also what is the time line for completing building works around the stadium especially the walk ways and the concourse around the stadium. I would hope that the megastore would be open a few weeks before Dennis's testimonial.

I think in terms of increasing the capacity with the council and community approval, Arsenal would need to put some of the promise investment into the modernising of the local transport facilities e.g. Holloway Road (lift station). Maybe a tunnel to the concouse from the stadium to train level? Also as in the first brief keeping the pitch in perfect condition for the whole of the year is essential, when you consider how the team is focused on passing football.

Can some post up to date pictures of the screens with logos?

i think by keeping the capicity at 60000 they would keep demand prity high and therefore they could keep the ticket prices fairly high.

im surprised they have not mentioned this stadium for the olympics, but i guess they just wanted spread games over the whole country

Let's start over now eh???? If that Cretin Posts on Here Please do not reply.

The Jumbotrons have Nike logo's on them. They're nearly ready. At pitch Level the whole seating area is visible.

Jumbotrons are for the yanks...

http://www.ballparks.com/baseball/american/kauffm/kauffm14.jpg

http://www.spokingformore.com/Jays/jumbotron.jpg

http://www.odysseybmx.com/riders/Gary%20Young/jumbotron.jpg

http://mellophones.bands.uiuc.edu/1999/bowl99/jmbotron.jpg





No proper football ground has one!




.

"test matches" why? what could possibly wrong that they have to have "test matches"?

Oh & if that dumbass MOFO I mean MUFC idiot comes here again, I'd say we ban him!


You are not forum dictator and continue the abusive language and I'll report you to the REAL mods

back from school tocino??

jumbotrons r for the yanks?? how long till we c them at old trafford then??

has any1 got the link for the construction schedule for emirates???ta

back from school tocino??

jumbotrons r for the yanks?? how long till we c them at old trafford then??

has any1 got the link for the construction schedule for emirates???ta

stop typing in text talk and people will begin to take you seriously

sorry. i just have things to do!

anyway as i said before, i think they intentionally wanted 60000 rather than a larger stadium because they want it to be full for every game, like at highbury

sorry. i just have things to do!

anyway as i said before, i think they intentionally wanted 60000 rather than a larger stadium because they want it to be full for every game, like at highbury

that would make sense since Arsenal pre-Wenger often struggled to get 30,000

It would be embarrassing for Arsenal if this started happening again...

http://www.arsenal.com/Images/h/highbury_seats.jpg

Does anyone know of the details of dugouts for the teams? Also what is the time line for completing building works around the stadium especially the walk ways and the concourse around the stadium. I would hope that the megastore would be open a few weeks before Dennis's testimonial.

I think in terms of increasing the capacity with the council and community approval, Arsenal would need to put some of the promise investment into the modernising of the local transport facilities e.g. Holloway Road (lift station). Maybe a tunnel to the concouse from the stadium to train level? Also as in the first brief keeping the pitch in perfect condition for the whole of the year is essential, when you consider how the team is focused on passing football.

Can some post up to date pictures of the screens with logos?

They are on the pics posted earlier in the thread, you just have to look hard, look at the right side of the screens, theres a nike logo there.

Jumbotrons are for the yanks...

http://www.spokingformore.com/Jays/jumbotron.jpg


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Does anyone know what stadium that is? Just curious to know as I wonder how big that titantron is compared to the ones at the emirates.

Good one about the attendence tocino, that was funny, that pic is from a wenger period game, im guessing league cup when we get 35,000+ to watch the reserves.

The jumbotrons are, i believe 74 sq m, which is about 30 more than highbury so pretty big! I actually find it hard to believe many grounds dont have them, it allows replays of goals etc, better buildup, the fact that some of the 'great' stadia dont have them is a bit of a joke really.

Is that the skydome or whatever its called in Toronto, i think it is and i can tell you that is a huge screen compared to any football ground! There is a 'whats left to do' thing somewhere on the arsenal website, from a programme, but i cant seem to find it! I think all the seats will be in by 2nd june, then its basically just finishing off the facilities and snagging etc

Good one about the attendence tocino, that was funny, that pic is from a wenger period game, im guessing league cup when we get 35,000+ to watch the reserves.

The jumbotrons are, i believe 74 sq m, which is about 30 more than highbury so pretty big! I actually find it hard to believe many grounds dont have them, it allows replays of goals etc, better buildup, the fact that some of the 'great' stadia dont have them is a bit of a joke really.

Is that the skydome or whatever its called in Toronto, i think it is and i can tell you that is a huge screen compared to any football ground! There is a 'whats left to do' thing somewhere on the arsenal website, from a programme, but i cant seem to find it! I think all the seats will be in by 2nd june, then its basically just finishing off the facilities and snagging etc

Great stadia don't have jumbotrons because they are unnecessary. Who are the jumbotrons for? They are for people who miss the action because they're too busy sitting on their hands and discussing Shahbaz from Big Brother with their wives and children.

these are so SMALLTIME, I can't believe Arsenal have stooped to this level...


http://largebarge.com/images/jumbotron.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/1/432135_31cf5207fc.jpg

http://www.eponymous.org/mt/archives/pics/dad.jpg

actually i think you will find they are so everyone can re-live the moment where henry flicks the ball up turns and volleys to beat utd, or where he robs barthez twice to beat united. I suppose you wouldnt know not having any, but it really is great to watch that again at half time and full time, rather than having to wait till you get home. Still i suppose glazer probably doesnt want to pay to put any in, after all not like he cares what the supporters think!

you can post as many pictures of screens in america as you like, i think the fact that the nou camp, bernabeu, gelsincherken, san siro, allianz arena, stade de france etc all have them speaks for itself. I think they could have put some in at ot, would have looked better than your messed up quadrants, but i suppose you have to get as many fans in as possible to pay off glazers loans

There are so many Emirates threads now.

aah m'lad, there can never be enough threads about this breathtaking stadium!!

How about some replays of Henry living in Rio's pocket for the last three years?
Having the screens in the stadium is a nice extra, but they don't add a lot to a game like football where the games are played without constant breaks for people to admire the highlight of the past few minutes of action.
A nice bonus, but they don't really make the stadium any more or less special.

How about some replays of Henry living in Rio's pocket for the last three years?
Having the screens in the stadium is a nice extra, but they don't add a lot to a game like football where the games are played without constant breaks for people to admire the highlight of the past few minutes of action.
A nice bonus, but they don't really make the stadium any more or less special.

That's true. Although it's nice to see replays after goals and after the game, I suspect the main reason for putting them up is advertising money. However, it's also a good way of getting information across visually, such as upcoming fixtures, tickets, latest scores in other games, etc. It's a step up from the old electronic scoreboards.

wembley has the large screens too, but i suppose you hate wembley as well because its ultra-modern. I suppose that every new ground built in this country should be made to look old, out of date and in need of maintanance, then it could be a 'proper' english stadium.

MCG has the new HD Jumbotrons, they had them installed for the Commi's maybe they will use the same, the Athens olypmic stadium had sum kick ass panasonic screens there too really good quality.

The screens in my opinion are a welcom addition to football. It allows the clubs to attract the fans into the ground as early as possible to avoide that last 20 minute rush into grounds which we all know we should avoid. As well as showing replays of exciting moments the allow for information and highlights to be shown in a modern and attractive way.

The arguments against are very limited, would we also argue against electronic advertising boards with moving logos and products? Or are they a way to keep fans attention away from what is going on?

Football needs to keep making or trying to make advances, that is why the Premiership was created, to improve the product (football) available to fans. What I also find funny is the certain snobbery some fans have against fans who are either wealthy or educated beyond the traditional 'I work in the mines' (not that this makes you unintelligent), but football is great because it is for everybody. The majority of the people in the UK see themselves as middle class, so one would imagine a lot of those go to the football and have been going a lot longer than since 92 as some have suggested.

We as fans need to embrace more people of all kinds to the beautiful game and accept their differences be it team, religon or colour.

I'm excited at the thought of visitin the Emirates/Ashburton and I just love football and most of the places of worship of the great game.

Can the mods please lock either this thread or the other one about the Emirates / Ashburton? No need for two. While they're at it, can they lock the entirely irrelevant Arsenal princes thread? This is not an Arsenal message board!

Thank you.

That's true. Although it's nice to see replays after goals and after the game, I suspect the main reason for putting them up is advertising money. However, it's also a good way of getting information across visually, such as upcoming fixtures, tickets, latest scores in other games, etc. It's a step up from the old electronic scoreboards.

As well as the primary, functional uses of big screens, I believe that they can also add an aesthetic dimension to a stadium - White Hart Lane being the prime example.

http://www.footanglais.com/stades/white.jpg

I don't know why more stadia that have jumbotrons haven't done the same as at White Hart Lane. It looks far better to have the jumbotrons attached to the roof instead of tucking them away in some corner. The jumbotrons become an architectural feature. Furthermore, it means that the jumbotrons are closer to those fans that can see them and they do not take up space that could otherwise be given over to seating.

@jimb,

I do lilke what they did at WHL with the screens, but with the dipping roofs at ES they had to put the screens in the corner. I don't think Arsenal would have got planning permission for above 60k. The roofs at ES will hopefully keep the noise in the stadium.

aah m'lad, there can never be enough threads about this breathtaking stadium!!
There's 8 if you include the one named 'Estadio de Luz', maybe we need a couple more, as 10 would be a nice round number. You can do the honours...

The screens in my opinion are a welcom addition to football. It allows the clubs to attract the fans into the ground as early as possible to avoide that last 20 minute rush into grounds which we all know we should avoid. As well as showing replays of exciting moments the allow for information and highlights to be shown in a modern and attractive way.

The arguments against are very limited, would we also argue against electronic advertising boards with moving logos and products? Or are they a way to keep fans attention away from what is going on?

Football needs to keep making or trying to make advances, that is why the Premiership was created, to improve the product (football) available to fans. What I also find funny is the certain snobbery some fans have against fans who are either wealthy or educated beyond the traditional 'I work in the mines' (not that this makes you unintelligent), but football is great because it is for everybody. The majority of the people in the UK see themselves as middle class, so one would imagine a lot of those go to the football and have been going a lot longer than since 92 as some have suggested.

We as fans need to embrace more people of all kinds to the beautiful game and accept their differences be it team, religon or colour.

I'm excited at the thought of visitin the Emirates/Ashburton and I just love football and most of the places of worship of the great game.

^^

you sound like a tory... "lets have more middle class muppets in our stadia"

Football is a working class sport, always has been and always will.

I admit, I am bigoted towards southerners, or people of your line of thinking, because they ruin the once great atmosphere that surrounded English football. Too many of these types are infiltrating OT... they come not to sing their hearts out but rather to have a picnic with their families while observing a game of "footy". The only positive thing to come out of our recent lack of success is that these people are beginning to F off and go watch Chelsea allowing more working class mancunians to take their place.

The reason not to like jumbotrons is because they are a distraction and made by Americans and for Americans.

wembley has the large screens too, but i suppose you hate wembley as well because its ultra-modern. I suppose that every new ground built in this country should be made to look old, out of date and in need of maintanance, then it could be a 'proper' english stadium.

correct, the new Wembley looks terrible compared to the more polished, the more English the real Wembley

what a beaut... they dont make em like this anymore

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/940000/images/_941916_7manu_liverpool300.jpg

http://www.homesoffootball.co.uk/4436_MANCHESTER_UNITED.jpg

http://www.homesoffootball.co.uk/2395_MANCHESTER_UNITED.jpg

you sound like a tory... "lets have more middle class muppets in our stadia"

Football is a working class sport, always has been and always will.

I admit, I am bigoted towards southerners, or people of your line of thinking, because they ruin the once great atmosphere that surrounded English football. Too many of these types are infiltrating OT... they come not to sing their hearts out but rather to have a picnic with their families while observing a game of "footy". The only positive thing to come out of our recent lack of success is that these people are beginning to F off and go watch Chelsea allowing more working class mancunians to take their place.


OMG tocino, u have stooped to a new low

sport is for everyone, playing or just spectating

^^

you sound like a tory... "lets have more middle class muppets in our stadia"

Football is a working class sport, always has been and always will.

I admit, I am bigoted towards southerners, or people of your line of thinking, because they ruin the once great atmosphere that surrounded English football. Too many of these types are infiltrating OT... they come not to sing their hearts out but rather to have a picnic with their families while observing a game of "footy". The only positive thing to come out of our recent lack of success is that these people are beginning to F off and go watch Chelsea allowing more working class mancunians to take their place.

The reason not to like jumbotrons is because they are a distraction and made by Americans and for Americans.

I agree with what you are saying, and football these days is attracting too many 'rugby' types who are ruining the atmospheres. I actually got told once at a game 'please don't swear, my child is here'.........I told him to 'fuck off' and he didn't say another word!! What happened to the days of a few drinks and a good laugh with your mates for 90 minutes, singing and shouting abuse at the opposition and their fans??? Season tickets and seats are also largely to blame!! Too many families and shandy drinking southern nancy boys at football these days!! We will soon have poofs turning up at football games at this rate!!!

We need terraces back, not 'Jumbotrons'!! It's football we are watching, not wanky Baseball or some other shite sport!!

I am a tory and I am middle class, but I am also a man!! I know the score when it comes to football!!



but the old Wembley was shit by any standards!!

OMG tocino, u have stooped to a new low

sport is for everyone, playing or just spectating

I can tell you have never stood on a packed terrace, singing your heart out for 90 minutes with the lads and being part of a real group of supporters. No doubt you are about 18 years old and are a shandy drinking southern nancy boy!!

OMG tocino, u have stooped to a new low

sport is for everyone, playing or just spectating

Are you a windup? Are you trying to "poke fun" at our support? You really are playing into all the stereotypes that ABU's have of the United support.

First you call United, "man u" which as all reds know is a derogatory term for the club. Reds don't like it and ABU's do.

Secondly, London is proudly in your location. We have all heard the myths that most of United's support is from Surrey nowdays and that Manchester is blue. What's next a "Man U fan" from Cornwall posting how much he loves Anfield and how badly he rooted for the vermin in last years champions leage final?

Thrid, text talk... ahhh there is nothing more annoying then acting like chavscum on the internet.

Fourth, why do you always side with the oppostion supporters instead of MUFC supporters like myself?

If you are genuine, I apologize for calling you out, but you seem to always be getting on my back and taking the other side of the arguement.

Are you a windup? Are you trying to "poke fun" at our support? You really are playing into all the stereotypes that ABU's have of the United support.

First you call United, "man u" which as all reds know is a derogatory term for the club. Reds don't like it and ABU's do.

Secondly, London is proudly in your location. We have all heard the myths that most of United's support is from Surrey nowdays and that Manchester is blue. What's next a "Man U fan" from Cornwall posting how much he loves Anfield and how badly he rooted for the vermin in last years champions leage final?

Thrid, text talk... ahhh there is nothing more annoying then acting like chavscum on the internet.

Fourth, why do you always side with the oppostion supporters instead of MUFC supporters like myself?

If you are genuine, I apologize for calling you out, but you seem to always be getting on my back and taking the other side of the arguement.

sorry mate, but i refuse to let my sporting allegiances to control my opinion on an architectural forum, if i did that i would turn into bubomb. who i support has nowt to do in this forum, if i was talking on a sports site then that would be different, and i am not always taking sides against you, but alot of the things you say are just so that you can piss people off and you even said you are biggoted towards southerners which makes me think you are narrow minded.

Don't you ignore me young man!!

Don't you ignore me young man!!

Oh sorry, :wave:

i know you just want some banter :sleepy:

@ tociino,

funny that you get that impression, but you culdn't be more wrong. It shouldn't make a difference (black/working class/union member/male), I've been going to footie, when most fans were abusive to black fans and players. I love the game and stadiums, up and down this country and others. football is a great leveler, be it Tory, Lib or Labour.

I like most stadiums, although I think Loftus rd in places is dangerous!

I hope the ES can have a great atmosphere.

Football is a working class sport, always has been and always will.

Not true.

Association football is so called because it was conceived by a group of some of England's top public schools - like Charterhouse and Eton.

I concede, though, that professional football has generally had working class roots.

But you're wrong to single out middle class supporters for lack of passion. From my experience of going to football over the last thirty years, there are some fans who like to make a lot of noise and others who prefer to watch the game in relative silence. And their social background has nothing to do with whether they are passionate or subdued.

There's no doubt that the atmosphere has died in English football over the past fifteen years. But I think factors other than a new sort of fan are to blame. Primarily, the fault lies with all seater stadia and the fact that, with pre-allocated seats, those who like to sing can no longer freely congregate together.

I have a hunting license that allows me to shoot 4 working class people each year. Got to keep the riff raff numbers down!

double post

^^

you sound like a tory... "lets have more middle class muppets in our stadia"

Football is a working class sport, always has been and always will.

I admit, I am bigoted towards southerners, or people of your line of thinking, because they ruin the once great atmosphere that surrounded English football. Too many of these types are infiltrating OT... they come not to sing their hearts out but rather to have a picnic with their families while observing a game of "footy". The only positive thing to come out of our recent lack of success is that these people are beginning to F off and go watch Chelsea allowing more working class mancunians to take their place.

The reason not to like jumbotrons is because they are a distraction and made by Americans and for Americans.

you're ranting about absolute rubbish and the funniest and probably the most worrying thing is is that you think what you're saying is actually true. Wembley was an amazing stadium, the home of football. But when it was built it was just a stadium, until it was filled with fans and history was made, then it became something special. The same applies to the new wembley, and with the emirates too (jumboscreen or not).

A stadium is nothing without the fans that use it, what a stadium must do is fill its function, which is to give the fans the best possible experience and enhance the viewing of the sport played there to its maximum. This why the new stadia of today look the way they do and have the features they have. I believe that in years to come the emirates stadium will create a better atmosphere and provide a better experience for the fans than highbury ever did.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/53/Arsenal_FC.svg/150px-Arsenal_FC.svg.png
Arsenal FC

13x Champion:
1931, 1933, 1934, 1935, 1938,
1948, 1953, 1971, 1989, 1991,
1998, 2002, 2004

10x Cup Winner:
1930, 1936, 1950, 1971, 1979,
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1x UEFA Cup:
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1994



Right then. It seems some biggot apparently from Manchester area has ruined the one thread I managed to get going.


So lets try again.

A side note.

*If any of these mods had one bone of decency in their body they would just ban this "person" as in my view his/her comments are hate inspiring (technically racist) towards people who are not of working class background.

I am a person of Middle Class background and yes that's right when I go to games I actually make an effort to create an exilerating atmosphere ( I suppose you've never heard of that before eh Tocino. I thrive for that atmosphere, and I get very passionate about the game. I can understand your upset with the lack of contributors to atmosphere these days, but you have to understand that people who want to sit there and do nothing then that's there right's as a human being. Personnaly If I had a choise I would convert 10,000 of the seats at the new ground to 20,000 standing positions, it would probably enhance the atmosphere while offering diversity for everyone while still having the fancy gadgets like the jumbotrons. If I had to pick which which part of the ground I would be in - I would probably pick the standing area as thats probably the area were you will get the best "footballing experiences".

^^ i absolutely agree roar

i would definately prefer the standing positions

p.s please mods, do the right thing and ban this person

roar, the title of the thread is wrong. it should be

(FOOTBALL) LDN - England - Ashburton Grove/Emirates Stadium (60,000)

http://i4.tinypic.com/10satkl.jpg

did the stadium have height resrictions by islington

did the stadium have height resrictions by islington


yes

I think I am going to give up on this thread entirely. I am sure many have already.

It amazes me how this thread has been reconstructed ELEVEN times, started off as the original Ashburton grove by genuine architectural enthusiasts, then Emirates stadium had EIGHT threads, followed by these two. Simply because the same idiots keep trashing it.

It's pathetic really and frankly I have better things to do with my time, as I am sure do most people....

I have a question:

Of all the posters who contribute to these Arsenal stadium threads, how many of you are women?

I am a bloke and I am sure that most of you are, considering the mindless banter that has been going on, because a woman wouldn't do this

I have a question:

Of all the posters who contribute to these Arsenal stadium threads, how many of you are women?

I am a bloke and I am sure that most of you are, considering the mindless banter that has been going on, because a woman wouldn't do this

Your point being?

nevermind........

its just frustrating sometimes when you want to talk about the stadium, but it gets trashed. I just wouldn't expect women to do that

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"Right then. It seems some biggot apparently from Manchester area has ruined the one thread I managed to get going.


So lets try again."


Here's an idea: If you and all the other naive posters around here stopped feeding the trolls, then you would not have to start yet another thread on Ashburton Grove.

This website is a joke.

Goodbye.

^^ And good riddance

thats dissapointing that isington put restrictions on the stadium, arsenal should have moved out if they didnt surrport arsenals needs.

thats dissapointing that isington put restrictions on the stadium, arsenal should have moved out if they didnt surrport arsenals needs.

From what I've heard the council moved Heaven and Earth for the project to happen. By the way looking at your comment (the way its been written spelling etc) I think your a bit pissed :lol:

Come on how many have you had?

The council did do an awful lot, although they also dis some very stupid things! But I think most people would tell you moving out of Islington would be a last resort, the fact the new stadium is 500yds from the old one is really excellent, people can use the same transport, go to the same pubs etc. the only other option would have been to move north of london into an area without these facilities, or the tradition, so it wouldn't have suited. As it is there is a 60,000 seater (which is what the club wanted) so it works really well

I am a bloke and I am sure that most of you are, considering the mindless banter that has been going on, because a woman wouldn't do this

You're absolutely right; women are known for concise, no-nonsense conversations...

Ha.

If we must generalise, if any gender has the reputation for running their mouths with mindless banter, it's certainly not males.

Sorry for the off-topicness. It shan't happen again.

the most intelligent thing to come out a woman's mouth was Einstein's cock!!!

From this:

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8305/18qj1.jpg

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/1839/1a4mm.jpg

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/644/22gy.jpg

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8889/38bx.jpg

http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/4752/43by.jpg

http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/2058/50dp.jpg

To this:

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/2070/4a6up.jpg

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/7298/5a8ma.jpg

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/6559/6a1jq.jpg

According to Arsenal.com the following tasks are currently in progress. But we all know how up to date the website is (sarcasm) so a couple of these may already be completed.

-Pitch grass 1st cut (already taken place)
-Complete Emirates logo signage to cores
-Complete Level 1, Level 2 bars
-Water chlorination
-Complete boiler and chiller commissioning

so when are the test matches if there are any

why would they play cricket in the stadium??? Daft idea!!!

i remember the early pics, i was thinking man this stadiums gonna be shit, i thought it was gonna be like reebok.. same height hahahaha

i remember the early pics, i was thinking man this stadiums gonna be shit, i thought it was gonna be like reebok.. same height hahahaha


You were half right....it's still shit!!

^^^ here we go again

so when are the test matches if there are any

1st match will be Dennis Bergkamps testimonial on the 22nd July.
45,000 maximum attendance for health and safety reasons.
Then a couple of friendlies I suppose, before the premiership kickoff

http://i4.tinypic.com/10yj9d4.jpg

Beautiful modern stadium, but Highbury is better.

does someone have anymore info?

does someone have anymore info?Doesn't really make any difference though whether it's five star or not. I suppose you might get a European final to gain some extra kudos but that's about it.

It's official, the biggest ever attendance for Old Trafford was for Soccer Aid!

HAhaha!

^and you wonder why threads go off topic... :weirdo:

It's official, the biggest ever attendance for Old Trafford was for Soccer Aid!

HAhaha!

the attendance was 71,920 thats not the biggest attendance this season at OT is it? im sure the latter games for utd were bigger?

pretty funny your making fun of the club who has the biggest support in the league. i know ur just trying to get at Tocino, but you just made yourself look foolish

does someone have anymore info?

As far as I understand it, the FA have to ask, UEFA simply don't go round stadiums givng them stars.

Emirates surely will have to be 5 stars, it can't be anything else, meets all of UEFA's requirements.

Although it is a good stadium (not great), it will probably be the best in England (I will only make a final verdict when I have visited it in person for a game). Clearly miles better than Old Trafford, which wouldn't even make it into my top 5 English stadiums.

Welcome back, OT is still one of the best

Emirates is just more high tech and built to a higher spec

Welcome back, OT is still one of the best

Emirates is just more high tech and built to a higher spec

From a design point of view OT is a desasture!
History and stuff might change the feeling with a stadium, but it is not a pretty design. It is just big. Back to the topic. Arsenal is a great (Benfica ripp of hehehe) stadium!

r you seriously saying the emirates is da luz rip off, everything in emirates is done to a higher and better quality then da luz, just compare the pitch

I said it was a great ripp of, Arsenall is getting the upgraded version (only smaller in cap.) but yep it looks def. better then the Benfica stadium

what's wrong with the pitch in da luz by the way, serious I don't know

I said it was a great ripp of, Arsenall is getting the upgraded version (only smaller in cap.) but yep it looks def. better then the Benfica stadium
Does it?

And when did this site decide to start bombarding us with adverts?

yeah, i know. was this the reason why the forum has been relatively slow for the past couple of days?

I said it was a great ripp of, Arsenall is getting the upgraded version (only smaller in cap.) but yep it looks def. better then the Benfica stadium

Oh Ok, i agree only thing better is the capacity

Da Luz simply looks better, anybody who cannot see that is a classic Arsenal/England fanboy!!

Remember the Da Luz actually originated from our design. Get your facts right.

Who cares???? It looks better, that's what counts (and it's bigger)!!

Who cares???? It looks better, that's what counts (and it's bigger)!!

ok bubomb, i think the interior of da luz probably does look better, but can't tell yet

ok bubomb, i think the interior of da luz probably does look better, but can't tell yet

i'm shocked!! I bet that hurt?

I am not an Arsenal/ England boy, def. not
I am from the Netherlandsliving in Spain and I like some English/German/French stadiums too, heee Life is to short not to.
And the Arsenal stadium is a great stadium, to my opinion def. better then where they came from (this is a thing to discus about the old Benfica stadium because that was something special to!) despite the history.

Roar says: Remember the Da Luz actually originated from our design. Get your facts right.
Well Arsenal sure took there sweet time to construct then. Where not talking about Wembley are we? :) How old is da Luz now 2-3 years.
I don't know...it is not like with concordski that the Benfica stadium was like 1 month earlier but well.

Great stadium, can't wait to see it alive! :cheers:

Just been looking at some pics of the stadium and came across this beaut. Haven't seen it posted on this thread or the thread in the UK forum so thought I should stick it on here. Something I noticed on the pic that I didn't know before is that the bottom tier is actually below 'ground level'. Perhaps they did this to get round the height restrictions put on the design?

http://show.imagehosting.us/show/1391920/0/nouser_1391/T0_-1_1391920.jpg

i'm shocked!! I bet that hurt?

still think Emirates is the better stadium though,

why would that hurt im not an Arsenal fan

Right then. It seems some biggot apparently from Manchester area has ruined the one thread I managed to get going.


So lets try again.

A side note.

*If any of these mods had one bone of decency in their body they would just ban this "person" as in my view his/her comments are hate inspiring (technically racist) towards people who are not of working class background.

I am a person of Middle Class background and yes that's right when I go to games I actually make an effort to create an exilerating atmosphere ( I suppose you've never heard of that before eh Tocino. I thrive for that atmosphere, and I get very passionate about the game. I can understand your upset with the lack of contributors to atmosphere these days, but you have to understand that people who want to sit there and do nothing then that's there right's as a human being. Personnaly If I had a choise I would convert 10,000 of the seats at the new ground to 20,000 standing positions, it would probably enhance the atmosphere while offering diversity for everyone while still having the fancy gadgets like the jumbotrons. If I had to pick which which part of the ground I would be in - I would probably pick the standing area as thats probably the area were you will get the best "footballing experiences".

terracing is the answer, original ideas for stadia is the answer, banning me is not

with the terraces you get...

http://melda.gallery.whitelands.com/files/small/photo1212.jpg


with plastic stadia you get more of this...


http://www.redimps.premiumtv.co.uk/javaImages/dd/fa/0,,10440~260829,00.jpg

plastic stadia are here to stay, so what can you do?

I wouldn't say that terracing is an original idea. It's was used in footall stadia for decades and still is used in the lower leagues. To be honest it would be a step back and still would have been phased out by clubs even if the health and safety rules hadn't been inforced.

1st match will be Dennis Bergkamps testimonial on the 22nd July.
45,000 maximum attendance for health and safety reasons.

HEALTH AND SAFETY REASONS.... ARE YOU HAVING A LAUGH? :hahaha:

Dein didn't want this for Arsenal's most popular player of the last decade...

http://www.arsenal.com/Images/h/highbury_seats.jpg

meanwhile we get 70,000 for Keano's

plastic stadia are here to stay, so what can you do?

blow them up and replace them with traditional stadia

HEALTH AND SAFETY REASONS.... ARE YOU HAVING A LAUGH? :hahaha:

Dein didn't want this for Arsenal's most popular player of the last decade...

http://www.arsenal.com/Images/h/highbury_seats.jpg

meanwhile we get 70,000 for Keano's

For arsenal to gain their full licence they need to have a series of practice matches with the allowable attendance rising every game. So it's forced.

For arsenal to gain their full licence they need to have a series of practice matches with the allowable attendance rising every game. So it's forced.

so then run the B squad out there to bump it up... let's face the facts here, Arsenal will never be able to sellout a 60,000 stadium for a testimonial

so then run the B squad out there to bump it up... let's face the facts here, Arsenal will never be able to sellout a 60,000 stadium for a testimonial

get a life :bash:

get a life :bash:

get an original stadium

oooh good comeback. how about 'next time you build a new stand maybe think about making it the same height as the other stands so it doesnt look shit when you fill the corners in'.

Arsenal would sell out 60,000 easily for bergkamp's testimonial, unfortunately to get a health and safety licence they have no choice but to use Bergkamp's testimonial as one because of the limited time between the world cup and the start of the season. You cant just play 2 games in a week, there has to be time in between to assess stewarding, problems etc so there isnt enough time to play an extra game on top of the members day and bergkamps testimonal

oooh good comeback. how about 'next time you build a new stand maybe think about making it the same height as the other stands so it doesnt look shit when you fill the corners in'.

Arsenal would sell out 60,000 easily for bergkamp's testimonial, unfortunately to get a health and safety licence they have no choice but to use Bergkamp's testimonial as one because of the limited time between the world cup and the start of the season. You cant just play 2 games in a week, there has to be time in between to assess stewarding, problems etc so there isnt enough time to play an extra game on top of the members day and bergkamps testimonal

excuses excuses excuses...

IF Lehman wasn't rightfully sent off we would've won the final - EXCUSE

IF the ref would've made more calls in our favour we would've won the final - EXCUSE

BUT Larsson was offsides - EXCUSE

Arsenal had a great season even though they were 25 points off 1st place - NOT A FACT

Arsenal will finish ahead of United and Liverpool next season - NOT A FACT

IF Arsenal really thought they could sell 60,000 tickets for a testimonial they would've gone through the steps to do so. - FACT

tocino, since you have been away, the forum has been relatively peaceful. why have you come back to diss Arsenal as per usual?

45,000 is all that they were allowed for the testimonial, what can't you understand about that!?

da luz vs emirates

the roof
http://i4.tinypic.com/111qek7.jpg
http://i4.tinypic.com/111qfs0.jpg

the upper tier from outside
http://i4.tinypic.com/111qrh0.jpg
http://i4.tinypic.com/111qpfk.jpg

the emirates looks better

I think its a draw actually.

ok tocino, i respect your opinion. you're wrong but i respect you for constantly being wrong, it's quite a talent.

The da luz roof actually looks a bit crazy, the height is riduclous on it! Still i suppose when the weather is nice you dont actually have to cover all the spectators unlike in england!

I must admit I was lead to believe this was a forum about Architecture and Design, yet it seems there are the occasional few people that insist on talking about anything other than architecture. I have been lurking on these forums, waiting for news on the new stadium at Arsenal and a majority of the time all I read about is the rubbish that certain forum members post on an hourly basis. Now it is quite clear there is a rivalry between clubs, my d*ck is bigger than your d*ck etc etc but this is not what this forum is about. So I suggest that all you people who insist on posting none Ashburton Grove, Emirates Stadium media should just grow up and perhaps start up a forum on another website that is geared toward tedious club related banter.

I've supported Arsenal since being a kid, I don't particularly like many of the other premiership clubs but there is just no need to rant and rant on about non topic related media, so either grow up or just get lost and let people who actually care about the stadium chat about what they are interested in.

Plus, for gods sake talk about something other than the Da Luz being the same as Ashburton Grove, it's like a broken Record, over and over and over and over again.

I watched a documentary on the building of the Allianz Arena, Munich last night and I must admit that is an amazing looking stadium. I also think, once finished, despite the concrete corr and quite possibly the roof, Ashburton Grove has amazing potental as a football Stadium and Arsenal fans should firstly be proud that their board care enough to actually keep the club in the same area and secondly build such an amazing arena to watch what is the most popular sport in the world.

I must admit I was lead to believe this was a forum about Architecture and Design, yet it seems there are the occasional few people that insist on talking about anything other than architecture. I have been lurking on these forums, waiting for news on the new stadium at Arsenal and a majority of the time all I read about is the rubbish that certain forum members post on an hourly basis. Now it is quite clear there is a rivalry between clubs, my d*ck is bigger than your d*ck etc etc but this is not what this forum is about. So I suggest that all you people who insist on posting none Ashburton Grove, Emirates Stadium media should just grow up and perhaps start up a forum on another website that is geared toward tedious club related banter.

I've supported Arsenal since being a kid, I don't particularly like many of the other premiership clubs but there is just no need to rant and rant on about non topic related media, so either grow up or just get lost and let people who actually care about the stadium chat about what they are interested in.

Plus, for gods sake talk about something other than the Da Luz being the same as Ashburton Grove, it's like a broken Record, over and over and over and over again.

I watched a documentary on the building of the Allianz Arena, Munich last night and I must admit that is an amazing looking stadium. I also think, once finished, despite the concrete corr and quite possibly the roof, Ashburton Grove has amazing potental as a football Stadium and Arsenal fans should firstly be proud that their board care enough to actually keep the club in the same area and secondly build such an amazing arena to watch what is the most popular sport in the world.

http://i4.tinypic.com/111uk91.jpg

emm what was the need to attak him like that socrates??

Thought it would be funny.

Was expecting something like that, probably deserved it.

get an original stadium
Get some frys & a shake to go with ur Big Mac :eat:

Thought it would be funny.
trust socrates to do thing like that, but it was funny :D

Everybody agrees that Arsenal get's the upgraded version of the Benfica stadium?
Sorry i think I started this discusion, so I will end it too!
Don't care about design dates or that the design was origenaly for the Arsenal stadium because the Benfica stadium was there first, way first, period.
But confert yourselfs, the Arsenal stadium looks better then the Benfica stadium.
The only thing is that it is smaller!
New photos please!

I think its a draw actually.

thats probably the most mature thing you've said

has anyone got any info on the sound system going in???

I must admit I was lead to believe this was a forum about Architecture and Design, yet it seems there are the occasional few people that insist on talking about anything other than architecture. I have been lurking on these forums, waiting for news on the new stadium at Arsenal and a majority of the time all I read about is the rubbish that certain forum members post on an hourly basis. Now it is quite clear there is a rivalry between clubs, my d*ck is bigger than your d*ck etc etc but this is not what this forum is about. So I suggest that all you people who insist on posting none Ashburton Grove, Emirates Stadium media should just grow up and perhaps start up a forum on another website that is geared toward tedious club related banter.

I've supported Arsenal since being a kid, I don't particularly like many of the other premiership clubs but there is just no need to rant and rant on about non topic related media, so either grow up or just get lost and let people who actually care about the stadium chat about what they are interested in.

Plus, for gods sake talk about something other than the Da Luz being the same as Ashburton Grove, it's like a broken Record, over and over and over and over again.

I watched a documentary on the building of the Allianz Arena, Munich last night and I must admit that is an amazing looking stadium. I also think, once finished, despite the concrete corr and quite possibly the roof, Ashburton Grove has amazing potental as a football Stadium and Arsenal fans should firstly be proud that their board care enough to actually keep the club in the same area and secondly build such an amazing arena to watch what is the most popular sport in the world.

I have three words: THEY ARE JEALOUS

End of. Besides, once it opens, the thread will probably not exist anymore

get an original stadium

We had one. But it made financial sense to move. I bet your shitting yourself that we now have a £51 Million increase in revenue each year.

Get a life.