LONDON - Emirates Stadium (60,362) [Archive] - Page 7

James21

April 16th, 2006, 05:45 PM

Is that compared to Liverpool's Huge new stadium of...oh wait yeah, 60,000. I think it is quite clear there is a point where it gets to stupid money to build anything bigger. Utd are lucky they can expand old trafford, most clubs cant. Arsenal could fill bigger (filled Wembley consistently for Champ League) but would never get permission and dont want to move out of islington and lose their identity. So its a pay off, 60,000 is enough for what we need.

As for the design, it is one of the highest spec stadiums in the world, prob only Wembley will be better. Fully HD, Beautiful Shape and sightlines, and the exterior is excellent. Anyone who doesnt like the concrete go and have a look at it. In the flesh it looks great, i think the pictures just dont show enough of the stadium to do it justice.

Boot Wheat

April 16th, 2006, 05:45 PM

Funny that. I'm currently watching Cagliari v Juventus on the Fox Soccer Channel. I wasn't aware you could get that in Britain.

chester84

April 16th, 2006, 06:44 PM

zee

April 16th, 2006, 07:08 PM

^^ i strongly agree

mauritius gunner

April 16th, 2006, 07:48 PM

The total cost of this project is £357 million, its the biggest financial undertaking ever made by a football club.

not bad for a club that is supposidly far, far smaller than Man U, Liverpool, Rangers and Celtic.

Oi! that's my quote you pinched there ;-)

antigr12

April 16th, 2006, 08:15 PM

I don't believe this, people are so bloody quick to criticise what they haven't got!

Concrete, concrete, so bloody what!!! Every sodding building has got concrete, its an essential ingredient in construction. FACT

Frankly, Wembley is a shambles, regardless of how it looks or will look. I am so glad we've got Sir Robert McAlpine doing the building work and not Multiplex. They have managed and delivered on time and in budget, well done.

Credit to the builders, they should consider them for the Olympic stadium in Stratford.

yes , the building where i live is 30 years old and of course is made of concrete but at least has DECENT paint on itself ( All *new* buildings have paint or cladding to cover dirty-ugly nude mass concrete ) , and doesn't cost 357 m£ :D :rofl:

Fillet Tower

April 16th, 2006, 08:45 PM

yes , the building where i live is 30 years old and of course is made of concrete but at least has DECENT paint on itself ( All *new* buildings have paint or cladding to cover dirty-ugly nude mass concrete ) , and doesn't cost 357 m£ :D :rofl:

Perhaps we should paint St Paul's Cathedral bright pink too.

1. The stadium isn't finished yet.
2. There isn't mass concrete, only the cores are showing.
3. The stadium it's self isn't £357. (How many times must this be said?)

chester84

April 16th, 2006, 09:00 PM

The concrete is not 'nude', it's covered in architectual mesh. The photos don't do it justice, you need to see the stadium in the flesh to fully appreciate the effect the mesh has.

Usually the concrete is painted before the mesh is installed but this has not happened with the emirates. I personally can't see how painting the concrete would have had a positive effect. What colour would they paint it? Red? That would look ridiculous. Grey? whats the point, the concrete is grey.

tv123

April 16th, 2006, 10:28 PM

Boot Wheat

April 16th, 2006, 11:06 PM

Juventus=they are the record champions(29titles?)
Juventus plan to rebuild the delle alpi,the new stadium will hold only 40000 people

And?

tv123

April 16th, 2006, 11:30 PM

And?

and happy easter!!! :)

Its AlL gUUd

April 16th, 2006, 11:37 PM

Its AlL gUUd

April 16th, 2006, 11:42 PM

And?

and according to ur logic as Juventus are only gonna have a 40,000 seater stadium, that surely makes Arsenal a bigger club since they have 60,000.

Are u really this stupid or are u just pretending. :weirdo:

Boot Wheat

April 16th, 2006, 11:46 PM

Do u even know what ur talking about? Arsenal only had planning permission for 60,000 they will not be allowed more by the council (transport, safety etc). Yeah AC Milan have an 80,000 seater stadium, so what, its shit. U proved that u know jack all u idiot.

U must be stupid or something, have u even read this thread? its got all the new technology and gizmos, and don't let me get started on the pitch.

Yes it's got HD!!!! Woooopie Dooooo!!!!!! Amazing they are soooooooo massive! And the pitch... wait until hear you about the pitch!!!

Anyone who seriously thinks Arsenal are up with the Manchester Uniteds, Barcelonas and Real Madrids of the world is a balloon. Arsenal aren't even as big a club as Liverpool. In fact, it's arguable whether they're even the biggest club in London. You know, that city that has never come close to winning the European Cup.

We've even got an Arsenal fan on this thread admitting 60,000 is about right. I'll guarantee that the cheap, dull, uninspiring lump of concrete in Ashburton Grove named after a second rate airline from the Middle East will not sell out for every game next season.

Boot Wheat

April 16th, 2006, 11:55 PM

Turnover - Manchester United > Arsenal
Stadium - Manchester United > Arsenal
Support - Manchester United > Arsenal
Worldwide Fame - Manchester United > Arsenal
Trophies Won - Manchester United > Arsenal
Sponsorship Manchester United > Arsenal
Profit - Manchester United > Arsenal
Newspaper column inches - Manchester United > Arsenal
History - Manchester United > Arsenal
Glamour - Manchester United > Arsenal

But hey, I admit you've got us trumped with this HD malarkey. Well done!

Its AlL gUUd

April 17th, 2006, 12:00 AM

Yes it's got HD!!!! Woooopie Dooooo!!!!!! Amazing they are soooooooo massive! And the pitch... wait until hear you about the pitch!!!

Anyone who seriously thinks Arsenal are up with the Manchester Uniteds, Barcelonas and Real Madrids of the world is a balloon. Arsenal aren't even as big a club as Liverpool. In fact, it's arguable whether they're even the biggest club in London. You know, that city that has never come close to winning the European Cup.

We've even got an Arsenal fan on this thread admitting 60,000 is about right. I'll guarantee that the cheap, dull, uninspiring lump of concrete in Ashburton Grove named after a second rate airline from the Middle East will not sell out for every game next season.

Did u even read my post, are u arguing against a brick wall??

U said Emirates Stadium is crap - NOT true
U said capacity determines how big a club is - NOT true

Ur stupid is showing again

and i m not even an arsenal fan!!

Roar

April 17th, 2006, 12:02 AM

Can you imagine the likes of Barcelona, Manchester United and Real Madrid building a new stadium and only having it hold 60,000 people? I think that tells us everything about the size of club Arsenal are and their need for anything bigger.

Manchester United
Liverpool
Rangers
Celtic

Four British clubs far, far bigger than Arsenal.

Very average stadium as well in my opinion. Nothing original about it or groundbreaking whatsoever.

BuBomb

Don't make me laugh, yes United and Liverpool have the advantage (noting even after Liverpool won the Champions League they still need funding for their new ground).

Rangers and Celtic....

Nah we are as big if not bigger... remember our city has 3 times the population of scotland put toghether... We are the biggest club in our city hands down. AND you're not exactly screened half as much as we are throughout the globe.

Ashburton Grove?

Mate, Arsene Wenger knows we could have got 70,000 week in week out if we wanted, we got nearly 74,000 for a champions league game at wembley and that was before our debut on the big stage within sattelite TV!

Arsenal have done absolutely outstanding in the way we have managed to free up space in a crowded area.

We would have gone for 70,000 but the council wouldn't grant us that anytime soon.

Ashburton Grove is probably the best stadium alongside Old Trafford in Club Football within Britain, in terms of revenue these two grounds produce 4 times the amount the old firm could.

Heck I reckon it won't be long before we start getting higher attendances than Celtic.

So fuck of you old wankstain!

tv123

April 17th, 2006, 12:03 AM

Yes it's got HD!!!! Woooopie Dooooo!!!!!! Amazing they are soooooooo massive! And the pitch... wait until hear you about the pitch!!!

Anyone who seriously thinks Arsenal are up with the Manchester Uniteds, Barcelonas and Real Madrids of the world is a balloon. Arsenal aren't even as big a club as Liverpool. In fact, it's arguable whether they're even the biggest club in London. You know, that city that has never come close to winning the European Cup.

We've even got an Arsenal fan on this thread admitting 60,000 is about right. I'll guarantee that the cheap, dull, uninspiring lump of concrete in Ashburton Grove named after a second rate airline from the Middle East will not sell out for every game next season.

after 120+years yes, Real,Manchester,Barca,Pool are bigger than Arsenal
(but in the first 6years of EPL Sunderland was the record champion)

Its AlL gUUd

April 17th, 2006, 12:05 AM

^^ Calm down Roar, don't waste ur time getting all angry with him, he is a bit confused, he just needs our support.

2005

April 17th, 2006, 12:05 AM

BuBomb

Don't make me laugh, yes United and Liverpool have the advantage (noting even after Liverpool won the Champions League they still need funding for their new ground).

Rangers and Celtic....

Nah we are as big if not bigger... remember our city has 3 times the population of scotland put toghether... We are the biggest club in our city hands down. AND you're not exactly screened half as much as we are throughout the globe.

Ashburton Grove?

Mate, Arsene Wenger knows we could have got 70,000 week in week out if we wanted, we got nearly 74,000 for a champions league game at wembley and that was before our debut on the big stage within sattelite TV!

Arsenal have done absolutely outstanding in the way we have managed to free up space in a crowded area.

We would have gone for 70,000 but the council wouldn't grant us that anytime soon.

Ashburton Grove is probably the best stadium alongside Old Trafford in Club Football within Britain, in terms of revenue these two grounds produce 4 times the amount the old firm could.

Heck I reckon it won't be long before we start getting higher attendances than Celtic.

So fuck of you old wankstain!

I personaly do not see Arsenal filling 70k day in day out thats why 60k is just right.

Roar

April 17th, 2006, 12:06 AM

Roar

April 17th, 2006, 12:11 AM

^^ Calm down Roar, don't waste ur time getting all angry with him, he is a bit confused, he just needs our support.

EH CALM DOWN CALM DOWN!!!

Yeah I think we all agree, Bubomb is Quincy.

tv123

April 17th, 2006, 12:16 AM

EH CALM DOWN CALM DOWN!!!

Yeah I think we all agree, Bubomb is Quincy.

Quincy? Owusu-Abeiye?

Boot Wheat

April 17th, 2006, 12:16 AM

U said capacity determines how big a club is

Stop making things up to back your already weak argument. Show me exactly where I said that? Thought so... you can't.

And the only reason Arse got that many at Wembley was because it was a tenner to get in and a fiver for kids.

I'll say it again: Arsenal won't sell out every game next season.

Does it pain you to accept obvious facts? Arsenal are in no way on a par with Manchester United. We're bigger in everyway. Only a complete helmet or a one-eyed Arse fan (same thing I guess) could even try and pretend otherwise.

But hey, you've got HD!!!! :hilarious

tv123

April 17th, 2006, 12:21 AM

2zanzibar

April 17th, 2006, 12:21 AM

mauritius gunner

April 17th, 2006, 12:23 AM

Boot Wheat

April 17th, 2006, 12:24 AM

at least we have HD,and you?

Yeah you've got us beat there. What a club!

Boot Wheat

April 17th, 2006, 12:28 AM

Also, Emirates are not a second rate airline, they have been twice voted international airline of the year. Absolute flawless first class service and very efficient.

Plus, have you ever been to Dubai airport?? Fantastic, and I even went 1st class on to the Philippines, couldn't sleep because I had drunk too much Dom Perignon!

Then again, I couldn't say no to the fit hostesses who kept filling up my glass!

I dislike the scousers more than anyone, but at least they have come out and said their new ground will be called Anfield. Some things are beyond money you see; the lump of concrete in Ashburton Grove (HD ready :lol: ) aside.

2zanzibar

April 17th, 2006, 12:28 AM

Yeah you've got us beat there. What a club!

Great! that's settled then

mauritius gunner

April 17th, 2006, 12:31 AM

I dislike the scousers more than anyone, but at least they have come out and said their new ground will be called Anfield. Some things are beyond money you see; the lump of concrete in Ashburton Grove (HD ready :lol: ) aside.

You Manc twat, naming rights are the way of the future- FACT.

You are a Manc, by the way, saw your admission on another thread and not Bubomb. To more pressing matters at hand, can you admit that failing to beat Tottenham tomorrow will cost you the premiership??

Let's see your reply then or fuck off

James21

April 17th, 2006, 12:32 AM

wait i just think i saw a pile of shite fly past my screen, oh no it was just bubombs post! I think you will find the seats were in no way that cheap at wembley, i went to every game and couldnt get a ticket for less than £25, what would have been the point of moving to a stadium with double the capacity if we charged half the price, what a ridiculous idea.

73,00 to watch us against lens. Hardly an amazing tie yet still packed out, what does that tell you? Also while I agree Liverpool and Man Utd may have the edge in terms of global support you wont find a club who are more admired around the world for class and the way we play. Oh and we are the only english team to go a season unbeaten, most fa cup final appearances and the longest run in the top flight of any club. So not exactly bad.

As for saying 60,000 was about right that was in relation to the cost of building a bigger stadium, which as Wembley shows would be too high. Hence Liverpool also aiming at 60,000. And I'm willing to bet you havent even seen the stadium so i dont really care what you think it looks like, because if you had you would know how amazing it it. Much better than any crap Glasgow has to offer or the hodge podge Old trafford is turning into

tv123

April 17th, 2006, 12:35 AM

Yeah you've got us beat there. What a club!

Henry > (4*Rooney+12*RVN)/Fletcher

2zanzibar

April 17th, 2006, 12:38 AM

Boot Wheat

April 17th, 2006, 12:39 AM

You Manc twat, naming rights are the way of the future- FACT.

You are a Manc, by the way, saw your admission on another thread and not Bubomb. To more pressing matters at hand, can you admit that failing to beat Tottenham tomorrow will cost you the premiership??

Let's see your reply then or fuck off

Is it beyond your capabilities to have a debate and not resort to juvenile name-calling? It's making you look silly.

Ok, to recap, I have mentioned two points here:

1. United are bigger than Arsenal - no real shock there. As I've pointed out, you'd have to be an idiot to disagree with that and apart from the laughable HD argument, nobody has really given any evidence to show what I'm saying is nothing but commonsense.

2. I'm not impressed with the lump of concrete in Ashburton Grove named after a 2nd rate airline from the Middle East - now if you can't handle somebody having a difference of opinion to you, and you really want us all to be sheep and agree on everything, then may I suggest a public forum is not the place for you?

I can just imagine the Gooner boys at Old Trafford next season, awakening from their usual silent slumber to hit us with the immortal "we've got HD we've got HD you've not!!!"

You really can't make it up.

eddyk

April 17th, 2006, 12:42 AM

Lame.

mauritius gunner

April 17th, 2006, 12:50 AM

Boot Wheat

April 17th, 2006, 12:59 AM

Alright, I take back the Juvenile name-calling.

But if you are not going to compliment what is being achieved on this thread, then what's the point you being here?

Frankly, I couldn't care less if Man Utd are a bigger club. Jupiter is a bigger planet than Saturn etc.

This is a thread about the Emirates (2nd class Middle Eastern Airline) Stadium and all our views about what is good and what is bad about it. It's not a thread to sing the praises of the 'bestest stadium in all the world ever (HD ready)' and for a bunch of Arsenal fans to go spitting their dummies out of their prams as soon as somebody says something bad about it.

Like I've already said, when it's completed, I think it will be the 3rd best stadium in London and a credit to the Premiership. What's so hard for you to handle about that?

Diaby

April 17th, 2006, 01:48 AM

Mate please do not insult our intelligence. You main aim here is not to talk about the stadium, you have come here with the intent to insult Arsenal and the stadium. There is no need for you to bring up history, a comparison of the two clubs and then use the HD thing as a way of belittling the stadium and Arsenal.

Stop making things up to back your already weak argument. Show me exactly where I said that? Thought so... you can't.
Well I believe these are your own words
Can you imagine the likes of Barcelona, Manchester United and Real Madrid building a new stadium and only having it hold 60,000 people? I think that tells us everything about the size of club Arsenal are and their need for anything bigger.

eddyk

April 17th, 2006, 01:54 AM

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/5941/emiratesstadium2uz.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Still confusing as to how it will turn out.

refering to the concrete bit.

http://www.islington.gov.uk/Business/ABET/..%5C..%5Cimages%5Cleisure%5Carsenal%5Cpodium_level_stadium.jpg

http://www.arsenal.com/images/thestadium/wallpapers/800x600/800x600_2.jpg

Its AlL gUUd

April 17th, 2006, 02:14 AM

Stop making things up to back your already weak argument. Show me exactly where I said that? Thought so... you can't.

And the only reason Arse got that many at Wembley was because it was a tenner to get in and a fiver for kids.

I'll say it again: Arsenal won't sell out every game next season.

Does it pain you to accept obvious facts? Arsenal are in no way on a par with Manchester United. We're bigger in everyway. Only a complete helmet or a one-eyed Arse fan (same thing I guess) could even try and pretend otherwise.

But hey, you've got HD!!!! :hilarious

i cant believe how stupid someone can get, i am not an Arsenal fan and Man u are a bigger club then Arsenal ofcourse, and so ...??? stop repeating urself, ur argument is crap.

The Emirates stadium is not crap and capacity doesn't determine the size of a club.

Its AlL gUUd

April 17th, 2006, 02:18 AM

2. I'm not impressed with the lump of concrete in Ashburton Grove named after a 2nd rate airline from the Middle East -

Emirates is probably thee best airline in the world, u don't get out much do u? :weirdo:

Its AlL gUUd

April 17th, 2006, 02:19 AM

This is a thread about the Emirates (2nd class Middle Eastern Airline) Stadium and all our views about what is good and what is bad about it. It's not a thread to sing the praises of the 'bestest stadium in all the world ever (HD ready)' and for a bunch of Arsenal fans to go spitting their dummies out of their prams as soon as somebody says something bad about it.

Like I've already said, when it's completed, I think it will be the 3rd best stadium in London and a credit to the Premiership. What's so hard for you to handle about that?

no such word as 'bestest' btw

Its AlL gUUd

April 17th, 2006, 02:21 AM

The emirates stadium will be the best stadium in the Premiership next season, even better then OT, though it pains me to say that

fuzz

April 17th, 2006, 02:42 AM

I dislike the scousers more than anyone, but at least they have come out and said their new ground will be called Anfield. Some things are beyond money you see; the lump of concrete in Ashburton Grove (HD ready :lol: ) aside.

I don't think any Arsenal fans would argue that Arsenal were bigger than Manu. At the end of the day Manu's trophy cabinet is bigger and better than Arsenal and that can't be argued with. Nor can the fact Manu have a stronger international fanbase, that's to kenyon.

Arsenal are however no means as small as you like to make out. In terms of success on the pitch Arsenal are only second to Liverpool and Man U i.e. the third most succesful team in english football (e.g. League title liverpool 18, Man u 15, Arsenal 13).

Arsenal, according to a recent study are the fastest growning football brand in the uk and one of the largest in europe. They have consistantly been in the top 10 richest clubs in the world and are now members of the g14.

In relation to the Emirates stadium, Arsenal were capped at 60,000 capacity. The choice to move out of islington would have probably made more financial sense since they would have the chance to build a larger stadium and at a cheaper price, but the opted to stay where they were. That is the reason for the 60,000 capacity. On a side note i've read the stadium can be expanded by a further 10,000, but that is unlikely to happen till the council are happy.
Actually there are a fair few comparisons, with regards problems, with liverpool's proposed stadium i.e. restrictions on size and exterior by external bodies.

On the issue of naming rights, i think you will find that Liverpool (Rick Parry) have actually gone back on their word. Initially the club had stated that they would not sell the naming rights of the new stadium, but after Arsenal struck their deal with emirates, liverpool (Rick Parry) said 'it was an eye opener' and (to paraphrayse) ' that the club would be silly not to now at least investigate the option of naming rights'.

Finally I'd just like to ask why you are so insecure about your club? We all know Arsenal aren't as big as Man u so why debate it. Maybe it's because Man U's financial/infracstructural strength, which for so long put them above everyone else, is now being genuinley challenged, and in a long term manner as well? Chelsea have billions, Arsenal will soon have a stadium that will generate similar amounts of cash to united's and liverpool are also planning to move. I think someone is scared of a little competition? One thing man u fans used to be able to rest easy about was arsenal and liverpool would never be able to match them financialy and hence challenge them seriously in the long term. I mean to be fair arsenal accoring to wenger even have over achieved when you consider their stadium/finance compared to united. Arsenal should not ever really have been challenging with a financial gulf that big, but now that that is about to go i think you realise man u's stranglehold on things has gone too, to be fair it went when roman abramovic arrived, but that's a different issue all together.

highburysouljah

April 17th, 2006, 03:15 AM

guys man serious this is not the right forum for, all you guys are just trying to piss off the gooners because deep inside your jealous of our new stadium

Shumbi

April 17th, 2006, 06:25 AM

Emirates stadium dosen't need many more than 60000 seats to be the most profitable club because 1 london toff in a corporate box is equal to 8 manc factory workers.
The prospect of Arsene Wenger with a real budget is scaring a lot of people methinks.

Fillet Tower

April 17th, 2006, 11:20 AM

Come on now. Remember these are the comments of an Englishman in New York (Sting?), A Manchester United fan who is nowhere near Manchester let alone the UK, someone who watches the Fox Soccer channel and someone who could actually be a frustrated Rangers fan. He/she is however entitled to his/her opinion no matter how far off the mark or false it is. I for one couldn't care less about HD tv, airline comparison or how big the place/club/manhood is as long as I am sitting there next season. And also, in my opinion, the place looks great, should be full just because of our style of football and should be a great place to watch football, which is good enough for me!

2zanzibar

April 17th, 2006, 12:27 PM

[QUOTE=eddyk]Still confusing as to how it will turn out.

refering to the concrete bit.

QUOTE]

I think its pretty much how it is now. Once the logos go on (shame about the Emirates logo though) the concrete won't look so bare

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i255/2zanzibar/emirates10.jpg

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i255/2zanzibar/emirates11.jpg

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i255/2zanzibar/emirates13.jpg

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i255/2zanzibar/emirates12.jpg

MoreOrLess

April 17th, 2006, 12:40 PM

Combined with the glass sections I think the concrete looks good, reminds me of the kind of minimalist house Herny likely lives in. ;)

If theres one area where I think the stadium could lay claim to being the best I'd say its in the exterior, no real grand ideas as in the likes of the Allianz Arena or Wembley but just a classly stylish design.

chester84

April 17th, 2006, 12:45 PM

Just looking at the renders eddyk posted earlier and noticed there may have been a change in the design for the cores before construction started.

http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/5645/emr24kg.png

This is the core from the initial render.

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/4742/emr17mf.jpg

Here's the core from a later render.

As you can see the appearance of the cladding has changed. Perhaps something else apart from the mesh was going to be used to clad the core then they change it to the mesh as shown im the later render.

Also to clear up confussion, I think what's shown in the render is the architectural mesh. hopefully my 'superb' attempt at using paint shows this :)

http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/2710/emr44vp.jpg

http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/4482/erm39sq.jpg

Disraeli

April 17th, 2006, 12:53 PM

I thought that it would only be called 'Emirates Stadium' for about ten years or so or however long Emirates paid to sponsor it. After this it will go back to being called 'Ashburton Grove'. Anyone have anymore to add on this?

eddyk

April 17th, 2006, 01:00 PM

After 10 years it might get a New Sponsor....or Emirates might do another deal.

tv123

April 17th, 2006, 01:33 PM

(shame about the Emirates logo though)

why?

look at the reebok logo of Bolton stadium,it looks awful

the emirates logo is artistic and fine

2zanzibar

April 17th, 2006, 05:33 PM

why?

look at the reebok logo of Bolton stadium,it looks awful

the emirates logo is artistic and fine

Granted, its probably better than some others, but its a shame the Arsenal logo doesn't travel all the way around the stadium. I think having 'Emirates Stadium' written around the whole thing is enough to get their money's worth

but hey! thats late capitalism for ya

mauritius gunner

April 17th, 2006, 05:49 PM

The concrete will be covered by glass, that is what those pins sticking out of it are there for.

Its called curtain-walling, or similar

Roar

April 17th, 2006, 05:54 PM

Stop making things up to back your already weak argument. Show me exactly where I said that? Thought so... you can't.

And the only reason Arse got that many at Wembley was because it was a tenner to get in and a fiver for kids.

I'll say it again: Arsenal won't sell out every game next season.

And who the fuck are you a gypsie lady with a magic ball.

Does it pain you to accept obvious facts?

- Oh we will get at least 59,000 average for the season.

- What you haven't won the title in 3 years?

Arsenal are in no way on a par with Manchester United. We're bigger in everyway. Only a complete helmet or a one-eyed Arse fan (same thing I guess) could even try and pretend otherwise.

- We are very close. Especially if we win the Champions League this year.

But hey, you've got HD!!!!

Well atleast, we don't have Malcolm Glazer :hilarious

I can sence the bitterness - It's a mixture of Lemon and Poo, a mixture of Bitterness and anxiety that the day's of Man United being abig club are LONG LONG GONE!! :hilarious:

2zanzibar

April 17th, 2006, 05:58 PM

The concrete will be covered by glass, that is what those pins sticking out of it are there for.

Its called curtain-walling, or similar

'fraid not Mauritius, the smaller pins sticking out are holding up the wire meshing, while the larger pins are to support the logos

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i255/2zanzibar/emirates9.jpg

Socrates

April 17th, 2006, 06:02 PM

wait i just think i saw a pile of shite fly past my screen, oh no it was just bubombs post! I think you will find the seats were in no way that cheap at wembley, i went to every game and couldnt get a ticket for less than £25, what would have been the point of moving to a stadium with double the capacity if we charged half the price, what a ridiculous idea.
73,000 to watch us against lens. Hardly an amazing tie yet still packed out, what does that tell you? Also while I agree Liverpool and Man Utd may have the edge in terms of global support you wont find a club who are more admired around the world for class and the way we play. Oh and we are the only english team to go a season unbeaten, most fa cup final appearances and the longest run in the top flight of any club. So not exactly bad.

Is it all about the money then?
I thought using Wembley was so more fans could get to see the game.
But it turns out it was just greed.

Roar

April 17th, 2006, 06:10 PM

:cheers:

Socrates

April 17th, 2006, 06:35 PM

I know what it is - It's a Rangers fan jealous that we are still in europe!!! :cheers:

Not at all mate. I hope you win it. Better hope you do it this year or next because after that it is coming to Glasgow!

Let the Revolution begin

http://img270.imageshack.us/img270/9366/plglegaffer0uu.gif

Boot Wheat

April 17th, 2006, 06:41 PM

http://archives.tcm.ie/irishexaminer/1998/08/28/phead.htm

Arsenal were happy to be drawn away in the first game as their plan to stage all 'home' matches in the Champions' League at Wembley would have been a non-starter with a Spice Girls pop concert already booked at the stadium in the same week. Now the way is clear for Panathinaikos, Lens and Dynamo Kiev to all face the Gunners there in the group matches and Arsenal revealed a plan yesterday to sell more than 20,000 tickets for every Wembley tie in the group at just £10 a head

I think you will find the seats were in no way that cheap at wembley, i went to every game and couldnt get a ticket for less than £25

What a wally :weird:

rantanamo

April 17th, 2006, 07:15 PM

The mesh over concrete is often used in hotter places as a 'green' measure. It cools down the concrete, cooling down the building overall.

chester84

April 17th, 2006, 07:17 PM

Yeah it's called solar shading, it's used on my university dept. building.

Boot Wheat

April 17th, 2006, 07:19 PM

I read in Saturday's newspaper that they're going to have images of past legends beamed onto there (Gail Porter style).

So like Manchester United would have the likes of Best Law and Charlton displayed, expect to see images of Frank McLintock, Charlie George and errr... Willie Young appearing some time soon.

chester84

April 17th, 2006, 07:26 PM

Boot Wheat

April 17th, 2006, 07:28 PM

Well that would be cool, which paper was it?

New York Post

chester84

April 17th, 2006, 07:33 PM

hmmmmm no chance of me reading that article then

Kampflamm

April 17th, 2006, 07:34 PM

I don't think the New York Post sports section covers European football. :laugh:

Boot Wheat

April 17th, 2006, 07:37 PM

hmmmmm no chance of me reading that article then

No, I very much doubt it but these are fairly inexpensive and supposed to be quite decent.

link (http://www.icslearn.co.uk/creative-skills-leisure-courses/general-interest/adult-literacy/)

Good luck!

chester84

April 17th, 2006, 07:38 PM

lol yeh i got that, chose to ignore it, aswell as the sarcasm.

Boot Wheat

April 17th, 2006, 07:39 PM

I don't think the New York Post sports section covers European football. :laugh:

Wrong. It's sporadic but it's there. Fantastic article in there last week in fact regarding Manchester United.

Next.

Kampflamm

April 17th, 2006, 07:40 PM

Do you have a brother in Glasgow who's a Rangers fan?

chester84

April 17th, 2006, 07:41 PM

No, I very much doubt it but these are fairly inexpensive and supposed to be quite decent.

link (http://www.icslearn.co.uk/creative-skills-leisure-courses/general-interest/adult-literacy/)

Good luck!

cheers, perhaps after i complete the course i'll actually be able to understand the rubbish you post

eddyk

April 17th, 2006, 07:45 PM

'PWND'

Roar

April 17th, 2006, 10:19 PM

http://archives.tcm.ie/irishexaminer/1998/08/28/phead.htm

What a wally :weird:

It states it was planned, maybe not ever decided to do that in the end.

Boot Wheat

April 17th, 2006, 10:46 PM

It states it was planned, maybe not ever decided to do that in the end.

If you had a brain you'd be dangerous.

Jack Rabbit Slim

April 17th, 2006, 11:48 PM

Good God, what the hell has happened to this thread??? Last time I looked it was respectable and focused solely on the stadium, and now....well, I don't actually know what crap you guys are talking about now....but, when a thread goes to pieces, BuBomb isn't usually far behind....look BuBomb, I don't really know for certain which accounts are you, and frankly I don't care, but if you have any shread of decency in you you'll just leave the forum, cus you're beond pathetic, and it aint even funny any more.

To get back to the stadium, I gotta say, I don't really mind the concrete exterior part at all. I think it fits in well with the overall look of the stadium, and gives the stadium a more solid look, instead of the usual plastic, glass and steel; plus according to some, it looks better in real life, and it will look even better illuminated.

Anyone got any new pics of the inside of the stadium?? Last time I looked I got the impression they weren't too far off from preparing the pitch for the laying in of the grass seed!

:cheers:

chester84

April 18th, 2006, 12:20 AM

I think the northern end of the pitch was already being seeded when I last looked at the webcam on thursday, be interesting to see the progress made when the webcam is back up and running tomorrow, thats if any progress has been made, the workers may have had easter off.

Really looking forward to see what lettering designs are going to be used in the seating, I assume the classic 'arsenal fc' will be used on the bottom tier like at Highbury. I'm sure 'Emirates' will be lurking about in the upper tier too and possibly a cannon?

Roar

April 18th, 2006, 12:50 AM

If you had a brain you'd be dangerous.

And if you had a brain you wouldn't be on here all moaning and bitter.

Jealousy is a terrible thing.

NOW BACK TO THE ARCHITECTUAL TOPIC....

I agree entirely with the person who said the concrete gave the stadium a more solid feel.

I think subconciously a lot of people are afected by the construction work around the stadium if you know what I mean.

tv123

April 18th, 2006, 01:16 AM

from Arsenal News Review:

"From a supporters perspective it was enjoyable to hear so much technical stuff about the new stadium, from us buying a satellite farm from the winter Olympics, to employing 4000 match day staff. "

eddyk

April 18th, 2006, 10:37 AM

There's a little tractor buzzing around at like 30mph pulling a trailor on the pitch.

Looks like he's pulling rollers and flattening the pitch.

Bubomb's lawyer

April 18th, 2006, 10:42 AM

This is a message from Bubomb's lawyer, who is speaking on behalf of Bubomb. It has come to Bubomb's attention that many copycat Bubomb's have appeared on the stadium section of Skyscrapercity.com. The real Bubomb is currently very busy with his new job and is also two month's into recovery from his 3rd ACL reconstruction (he has had ACL's reconstructions on both knee's due to Sunday football - He may now retire!!). He has been keeping an eye on the stadium section, and has been posting deep undercover and has so far escaped detection (apart from the obvious one's - like this account, although I'm Bubomb's lawyer, not Bubomb). He would like to point out that these 'copycat' Bubombs are easy to spot. Bubomb only supports one team, and would not pretend to passionately support another, so any hardcore Man United fans are not the real Bubomb. He is also always 100% honest on his stadium opinions (no fanboy stuff will ever appear from bubomb's lips), and is in fact impressed with the new Arsenal stadium. He was worried about the roof, but now thinks it looks quite good as it approaches the final stages in construction, and he also likes the concrete facade - he feel's it gives it the look of a proper 'strong' stadium, unlike the laughable 'shopping centre' that is the new Wembley.

Bubomb will be travelling to Norwich with an English work colleague for a Norwich City game (home to Wolves), and he will return with a report on the stadium. He would also like to point out that 'Its AlL gUUd' has finally, beyond all doubt, proved what an utter complete London Fanboy he is by calling the 85700 capacity San Siro a 'shit' stadium!! Bubomb thinks this London Fanboy must be the only person on earth who thinks the San Siro is a 'shit' stadium!!! Bubomb say's this is a shit stadium -

http://stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionlisten/schottland/shawfield/150.jpg

Bubomb say's this is NOT a 'shit' stadium -

http://www.raphaelk.co.uk/web%20pics/Italy/first/San%20Siro.jpg

http://www.globalstadia.com/campo_sansiro.jpg

http://www.tuttiallostadio.it/liga/02-03_milan-inter_sem%20champ.jpg

http://www.tuttiallostadio.it/images/milan%20TIFO%20%203..jpg

eddyk

April 18th, 2006, 10:56 AM

http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/1307/emiratesstadium7mu.png (http://imageshack.us)

P.S
You can say your stupid little statement....but don't flood stadium threads with pictures of other stadia....

eddyk

April 18th, 2006, 01:19 PM

Lookin at the webcam now, for a midday kick off only a tiny bit will be in shadow...the corner flags.

I'll take another look at 3pm to see what it will be like.

Its AlL gUUd

April 18th, 2006, 01:41 PM

Bobomb will be travelling to Norwich with an English work colleague for a Norwich City game (home to Wolves), and he will return with a report on the stadium. He would also like to point out that 'Its AlL gUUd' has finally, beyond all doubt, proved what an utter complete London Fanboy he is by calling the 85700 capacity San Siro a 'shit' stadium!! Bubomb thinks this London Fanboy must be the only person on earth who thinks the San Siro is a 'shit' stadium!!!

Oh Bubomb have u been stalking my posts again?? cos i cant even remeber myself wer and when i posted that, but yeah i think its pretty shit compared to alot of other stadia, if u were clever enough u would realise capacity isn't everything. and im not the only person on earth who thinks this alot of my scottish chums think this aswell :weirdo:

and just cos my location is in London don't make assumptions, gosh u must be one crap lawyer if u can't work out simple things like that :bash:

and one more thing how obsessed can u get with this site?? :runaway:

Genç

April 18th, 2006, 01:41 PM

Yeah, I was a little concerned about the shadow...it looks pretty big. But considering the time of day etc, it shouldn't really be a problem.

Thanks for the update, eddyk! :okay:

tv123

April 18th, 2006, 03:16 PM

some new pictures

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006170652,00.html

Diaby

April 18th, 2006, 03:25 PM

some new pictures

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006170652,00.html :eek2: Absolutely ridiculous. They need to stop this quickly (although I hope scouser dave can still get us those great pics :) )

Noostairz

April 18th, 2006, 03:36 PM

:eek2: Absolutely ridiculous. They need to stop this quickly (although I hope scouser dave can still get us those great pics :) )

scouserdave's been banned - a ridiculous decision as far as i'm concerned. he did kindly send me a message, though, offering to let me know when he next has a new set of pics on his site.

Durbsboi

April 18th, 2006, 03:47 PM

scouserdave......banned.........why? what he do?

& I know that boot wheat aint bubomb, its Quron with a normal speech,
me thinx he is tired ov typin lik dis!

Diaby

April 18th, 2006, 03:48 PM

scouserdave's been banned - a ridiculous decision as far as i'm concerned. he did kindly send me a message, though, offering to let me know when he next has a new set of pics on his site.What was the reason behind the ban?

tv123

April 18th, 2006, 03:52 PM

What was the reason behind the ban?

maybe the photographer of the club,i think he was jealous

Noostairz

April 18th, 2006, 03:58 PM

as far as i know all he did was open a thread in the uk skybar simply asking why a previous, harmless thread had been locked. some PMs were apparently exchanged between him and a mod and then he was banned.

even if he did go over the line (still yet to see any evidence of that) it's hardly fair to ban a guy who's provided us all with the most exclusive shots of wembley and emirates available. this is an architectural forum, and he consistently contributed positively to the topic of discussion: architecture. if he pissed someone off, who cares? plenty of people who never even actively contribute to architectural discussion piss each other off on these forums and they're never even so much as warned, let alone brigged, let alone banned.

Durbsboi

April 18th, 2006, 04:04 PM

cant we start a poll to bring him back?

2005

April 18th, 2006, 04:06 PM

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006170652,00.html

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d157/Ginola90/awnker.gif

The Sun are a bunch shitesters I hate them.

Jack Rabbit Slim

April 18th, 2006, 05:14 PM

^^ Yer, me too, but still, it is quite frightening to think that anybody with a flurencent coat and a hard hat can have unlimited access to the stadium, I mean...wtf???

Its AlL gUUd

April 18th, 2006, 09:32 PM

yeah i know, but it has its advantages look at scouser dave :)

p.s. i detest The SUN :horse:

highburysouljah

April 19th, 2006, 02:02 AM

pfft the twat bin laden is an arsenal surporter so i dont think the wanna blow up emirates

Socrates

April 19th, 2006, 02:08 AM

I think the powers that be on this site are far too over-zealous when it comes to banning people.

eddyk

April 19th, 2006, 02:16 AM

Not zealous enough.

Durbsboi

April 19th, 2006, 10:15 AM

I thought Bin Landen supported the manc's? oh but maybe since Glazer bought them off, he changed aliances?

eddyk

April 19th, 2006, 10:22 AM

Bin Laden used to live in London, and he visited highbury aswell to watch some matches.

Durbsboi

April 19th, 2006, 10:37 AM

oh ok, maybe he likes the French?

Its AlL gUUd

April 19th, 2006, 12:12 PM

can we get back on topic pleez

Durbsboi

April 19th, 2006, 12:30 PM

What bin landen supporting Arsenal?

eddyk

April 19th, 2006, 12:35 PM

I havn't seen any more seats go up in a while.

Its AlL gUUd

April 19th, 2006, 12:36 PM

:mad2: back on topic pleez

chester84

April 19th, 2006, 12:41 PM

is the webcam working for you guys?

eddyk

April 19th, 2006, 12:45 PM

No it isn't, I had a look earlier but it wasnt.

Something about it not being able to open windows.

highburysouljah

April 19th, 2006, 12:45 PM

Artificial grass for new Arsenal stadium
Source: scenta

Arsenal’s new home at Ashburton Grove will be fitted with an artificial pitch.

Today’s match against Villareal will be their last international game at Highbury before moving home.

Next season, the English top team will be moving its home from Highbury to the new Emirates Stadium.

The installation of the new stadium pitch has recently been assigned to Desso DLW Sports Systems and its partner Hewitt Sportsturf.

The pitch will incorporate DD GrassMaster, a natural grass pitch reinforced by over 20 million artificial fibres.

A computer-controlled machine injects over 20 million artificial grass fibres about 20 centimetres deep into a natural grass pitch.

The patented system is installed at more than 250 professional and amateur football clubs.

Recently, the DD GrassMaster system received the award for the best American stadium pitch at NFL-club Denver Broncos.

Arsenal will become the seventh Premiership club to play on the DD GrassMaster system.

Six other sides, including Liverpool FC and Tottenham Hotspur, already have the grass installed.

The pitch will ensure that the surface stays true and level all year round.

As a stadium is constructed in such a way that makes grass very difficult to grow, a new system of turf was needed.

Water shortages across Britain are also causing stadiums to rethink their ground.

For this reason Arsenal selected a system that reinforces the grass and meets the high expectations of players such as Henry, Bergkamp and Fabregas.

The positive experience on the DD GrassMaster pitches of Liverpool and Manchester City convinced Arsenal of the quality of this system.

The installation of the pitch will start this week.

chester84

April 19th, 2006, 12:46 PM

No it isn't, I had a look earlier but it wasnt.

Something about it not being able to open windows.

Yeah said the same thing for me too, well at least I know its not my comp.

Diaby

April 19th, 2006, 01:07 PM

No it isn't, I had a look earlier but it wasnt.

Something about it not being able to open windows.
For some reason its not working when I use explorer but when I use firefox it works.

Diaby

April 19th, 2006, 01:11 PM

tv123

April 19th, 2006, 01:53 PM

they put up a tent on the pitch

Its AlL gUUd

April 19th, 2006, 02:16 PM

^^ how do u know?

Durbsboi

April 19th, 2006, 02:21 PM

yeh, that bloody webcam isnt working for me too, I conceded that the reason was because I am in SA, but then I heard u guys complaining

tv123

April 19th, 2006, 02:25 PM

^^ how do u know?

the webcam is working for me

nosehairuk

April 19th, 2006, 02:30 PM

In internet explorer i get Unable to create Windows Media player error. But like stated a few posts up... Firefox works fine.

tv123

April 19th, 2006, 02:31 PM

maybe this is the computer-controlled machine(it looks like a tent)

its moving slowly

tv123

April 19th, 2006, 02:35 PM

In internet explorer i get Unable to create Windows Media player error. But like stated a few posts up... Firefox works fine.

interesting,i have IE6 and works

chester84

April 19th, 2006, 02:37 PM

Yeah looks like one of those holiday caravans with the end chopped off. There is two of them now, never seen anything like it before so not sure what it's supposed to be doing. Looks like its laying soil.

Its AlL gUUd

April 19th, 2006, 02:49 PM

just checked myself, the webcam is working on my pc, when i read about the tents i thought of some huge thing in the middle of the pitch and looking at it now :hahaha:

Theres a sprinkler on the pitch btw

highburysouljah

April 19th, 2006, 02:57 PM

somebody wanna post it up

Durbsboi

April 19th, 2006, 03:16 PM

Yeah looks like one of those holiday caravans with the end chopped off. There is two of them now, never seen anything like it before so not sure what it's supposed to be doing.

maybe they planting weed! & have those highbay lights to speed up the process!

chester84

April 19th, 2006, 03:21 PM

So thats how they are getting the money to finance the stadium!

Durbsboi

April 19th, 2006, 04:31 PM

bloody french!

tv123

April 19th, 2006, 07:31 PM

awesome diamond club pics,posted by Talentscout on Arsenal-mania.com

http://img443.imageshack.us/my.php?image=diamondclub0021eo.jpg
http://img412.imageshack.us/my.php?image=diamondclub0032wl.jpg
http://img412.imageshack.us/my.php?image=diamondclub0048jt.jpg
http://img405.imageshack.us/my.php?image=diamondclub0050gi.jpg
http://img412.imageshack.us/my.php?image=diamondclub0066cb.jpg
http://img412.imageshack.us/my.php?image=diamondclub0086jz.jpg
http://img405.imageshack.us/my.php?image=diamondclub0092bi.jpg
http://img412.imageshack.us/my.php?image=diamondclub0109jp.jpg
http://img405.imageshack.us/my.php?image=diamondclub0133om.jpg
http://img412.imageshack.us/my.php?image=diamondclub0142zt.jpg
http://img405.imageshack.us/my.php?image=diamondclub0153om.jpg

eddyk

April 19th, 2006, 07:36 PM

The Emirates stadium is haunted...

Orbs everywhere :O

JimB

April 19th, 2006, 07:41 PM

Nice article but correct me if I am wrong but I thought the grass was being seeded?

Grass and artificial fibres are compatible. Tottenham and Liverpool (and others too, I don't doubt) also have this artificial fibre system in their pitch. The artificial fibres are mixed with the grass to help to keep the grass rooted, rather than huge divots being ripped out of the turf after every tackle etc.

chester84

April 19th, 2006, 11:45 PM

nice pics, thanks tv123

Jack Rabbit Slim

April 19th, 2006, 11:45 PM

Good win tonight Arsenal, though it was not up to the usual standard, and a 1-0 lead is always risky to take to an away leg, so next week is gonna be exciting!

:cheers:

Diaby

April 19th, 2006, 11:49 PM

Fantastic pics tv123!!

MoreOrLess

April 20th, 2006, 12:02 AM

Good win tonight Arsenal, though it was not up to the usual standard, and a 1-0 lead is always risky to take to an away leg, so next week is gonna be exciting!

:cheers:

A much better result for Arsenal than I think the commentators made it out to be, one goal for them in Spain and Villa Real will need three.

zee

April 20th, 2006, 12:14 AM

^^ tru but villa are not that easy to break down although we played well today..henry was onside but on the other hand gilberto got away with that challenge in the box..could have been worse so we gotta step up a few gears for that 2nd leg

Diaby

April 20th, 2006, 12:22 AM

http://www.as.com/futbol/imagenes/capturas/2006/abril/19/6.jpg
It wasn't a pen thse yellow submarines just knew how to dive into the box.

Morten M

April 20th, 2006, 12:37 AM

The best thing about Arsenal getting a new stadium is that they fanally get a new place for the main TV-camera. The main camera at Highbury can't be placed much more than 2 meters above ground level.

highburysouljah

April 20th, 2006, 01:00 AM

I hope its like the one at allianze stadium the camera travels up and down the pitch

2zanzibar

April 20th, 2006, 01:07 AM

The best thing about Arsenal getting a new stadium is that they fanally get a new place for the main TV-camera. The main camera at Highbury can't be placed much more than 2 meters above ground level.

In a way I'll miss Highbury's foreshortening of the camera angle. It was unique, and always looked like we were specialists in playing along the edges (even in George Graham's era!)

It was a good match tonight though it hasn't given us a week to feel too good about ourselves; we could've done with another. When we're favourites we get nervous, if we reach the finals against Barca then we'll be underdogs again.....which is a far more inspiring position to be in.

Roar

April 20th, 2006, 01:30 AM

A much better result for Arsenal than I think the commentators made it out to be, one goal for them in Spain and Villa Real will need three.

Indeed.

I think a key to this game was that Villareal liked to have an away goal to lean on, they don't have that advantage now.

IF we make it to the finals, well I would be climbing the walls and ceiling to say the least.

Roar

April 20th, 2006, 01:33 AM

In a way I'll miss Highbury's foreshortening of the camera angle. It was unique, and always looked like we were specialists in playing along the edges (even in George Graham's era!)

It was a good match tonight though it hasn't given us a week to feel too good about ourselves; we could've done with another. When we're favourites we get nervous, if we reach the finals against Barca then we'll be underdogs again.....which is a far more inspiring position to be in.

I know I hate the way the media gets time to build up stories about how teams are about to muller us when we clearly demolished them in the first leg.

Noostairz

April 20th, 2006, 03:58 AM

new pics from dave: http://www.**************************/emirates5/ although if you haven't: a) sent him a few quid via paypal for the parking expenses he's accumulated taking these pics, or b) expressed your dismay at him getting banned then really, quite frankly, you want to take a look at yourself.

cheers dave. :cheers:

16LEGEND

April 20th, 2006, 08:49 AM

Look at the inbreds stadium..... See they have put the arm chairs in. Which one will arse-n whinger sit in i wonder with all his kids!

Durbsboi

April 20th, 2006, 09:20 AM

^^LOL, its turning out to look great, thanx to dave for the pics, you will be missed!

highburysouljah

April 20th, 2006, 09:32 AM

great pics again better the arsenal one anyway, we should really give dave that money he got in parking fine, ROAR im looking in your direction.

2005

April 20th, 2006, 10:38 AM

Disgrace complete and utter disgrace

http://www.**************************/emirates5/image050.html
http://www.**************************/emirates5/image051.html

I still think the way the council "gave" Arsenal the land is true disgrace. I'm sure £800,000 will be enough for these companys :|

eddyk

April 20th, 2006, 10:43 AM

http://www.**************************/emirates5/images/image050.jpg
What will Arsenal do here then?

The inside of the Emirates is amazing...better than I ever invisioned it to be.

highburysouljah

April 20th, 2006, 10:47 AM

thats where the arsenal store will go and in between a the enterance

highburysouljah

April 20th, 2006, 10:52 AM

http://www.**************************/emirates5/image007.html

is that the players tunnel?? what are they doing???

JacobRit

April 20th, 2006, 01:08 PM

relax it is just a temporary platform to ut the speakers up!

Durbsboi

April 20th, 2006, 02:53 PM

http://www.**************************/emirates5/image007.html

is that the players tunnel?? what are they doing???
dam, sounds like you having a nervous break down, at ease souljah!

James21

April 20th, 2006, 03:14 PM

anyone else still unable to use the webcam? It isnt even working on firefox on mine now which it was yesterday, i wanna see those tents!

Jack Rabbit Slim

April 20th, 2006, 03:16 PM

http://www.**************************/emirates5/images/image050.jpg

Does that look like the crappiest street in the world, or what?

Durbsboi

April 20th, 2006, 03:18 PM

^^Its Highbury, everything about the place is crappy!

tv123

April 20th, 2006, 03:22 PM

anyone else still unable to use the webcam? It isnt even working on firefox on mine now which it was yesterday, i wanna see those tents!

http://www.**************************/emirates5/image034.html

Durbsboi

April 20th, 2006, 03:43 PM

^^yep that confirms it, they deff growing weed there.

highburysouljah

April 20th, 2006, 04:18 PM

that why arsenal are redoing it !!!

mauritius gunner

April 20th, 2006, 04:40 PM

A much better result for Arsenal than I think the commentators made it out to be, one goal for them in Spain and Villa Real will need three.

Absolutely! That Andy Gray is a complete twat! He completely pisses me off as he always talks down the Arsenal in games, the absolute opposite if United are playing.

Noostairz

April 20th, 2006, 04:48 PM

get dave back on these forums - vote now!

http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=340910

Fillet Tower

April 20th, 2006, 06:43 PM

Does that look like the crappiest street in the world, or what?

There's plenty of streets like that in North London! Good job it's being regenerated, although the new northern triangle building they've put up looks like a nightmare.

2zanzibar

April 20th, 2006, 09:02 PM

Absolutely! That Andy Gray is a complete twat! He completely pisses me off as he always talks down the Arsenal in games, the absolute opposite if United are playing.

I couldn't agree with you more, god he's such an idiot!

Diaby

April 20th, 2006, 10:53 PM

This comes from yesterdays programme. It is about the lighting test that took place last week.
http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?thisNav=&article=380473

Socrates

April 21st, 2006, 02:35 AM

Durbsboi

April 21st, 2006, 09:29 AM

^^yeh it does tend to distract you. bloody irratating in my opinion.

James21

April 21st, 2006, 09:31 AM

While that is kinda true the bowl shape of the stadium means that even if you cant see across you can see to the sides which you cant at old trafford etc due to the sqaureness of it! Also I think it is really only the seats that are near the top that are majorly affected, most will be fine. But I think most fans would suffer a slightly worse view of other stands (while still being able to see the pitch completely) to ensure the pitch is up to scratch. It's very important for Arsenal's game, especially the way we pass, so i think there was no way around the roof situation.

MoreOrLess

April 21st, 2006, 10:02 AM

The sloping roof chosen for Emirates is a major design error in my opinion. As you'll probably have noticed on the Old Trafford thread, the fans don't like it, and its the same for me when I attend Ibrox. One stand has a sloping roof and not being able to see the other stands is a real irritant for some reason.

http://stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionguides/schottland/ibrox_stadium/images/Ibrox_c_17.jpg

Looking at Emirates it doesnt seem nearly as bad as in those cross section design views though, I spose because the roof lowers and stands rise in the middle of the sides/back. Only the very top of the "humps" look like there going to have a restricted views to me and even then I'd guess you'll be able to see the lower tier on the other side of the ground.

I'd guess a major factor in the design of the roof(and the lower tier) was the the height restriction on the project, with a flat roof and those supports rise about 5-10 meters.

Speaking of the lower tier while its not the ideal gradient I doubt the Arsenal fans will complain that much as Highbury is pretty similar now.

Durbsboi

April 21st, 2006, 11:02 AM

Well even though one can view the whole pitch, its still feels odd, not being able to see the other side of the stadium, like the view is being robbed from you.

chester84

April 21st, 2006, 11:59 AM

Yeah poor guys at the back of the stand.

I agree not seeing the other stands can be a bit off putting, i was at the back of the Kop at Anfield once and could only see just above the opposite goals crossbar, which was pretty annoying when corners are being taken for obvious reasons.

Although the roof at Emirates is at a much lower gradient and gives better visability, which you can see from the webcam (in the roof at the back of the stand) as you can see the bottom terrace of the opposite stands. It is a shame but unfortunately for some reason the council would not allow the stadium to be built higher. Anyway the sloped roof allows for better atmosphere and improved air flow to the pitch.

eddyk

April 21st, 2006, 12:25 PM

Durbsboi

April 21st, 2006, 12:30 PM

^^Yes its not that bad, but still doest make one fell a touch claustrophobic

chester84

April 21st, 2006, 12:33 PM

Yeah they must be taken from near the back because the roof is very close overhead. I think those views are pretty good considering they are probably the worst in the stadium.

Just to change the subject a little, does anyone have an idea of what the capacity will be for Bergkamps testimonial? was thinkin around 40,000?

eddyk

April 21st, 2006, 12:38 PM

Yeah, I think i've heard a few times it will only be 40,000 for the first match.

Which will of course....the the testimonial.

Of course the few times I heard that, where from users on here....in this thread.

chester84

April 21st, 2006, 12:39 PM

So it's probably a complete guess :)

eddyk

April 21st, 2006, 12:48 PM

Here we go....

Arsenal will restrict capacity to 40,000 for the first game at the Emirates Stadium - Dutch striker Dennis Bergkamp's testimonial against an Ajax all-star side on July 22nd

chester84

April 21st, 2006, 01:02 PM

Cheers, just confirms my thoughts of how ridiculously hard it will be to get tickets. Just have to wait until August before I can have a look inside.

carlspannoosh

April 21st, 2006, 01:23 PM

Fillet Tower

April 21st, 2006, 02:46 PM

http://www.**************************/emirates3/images/image024.jpg

I belive this pic to be taken pretty much from the very back, it's a shame we can't have Dave confirm or deny this.

http://www.**************************/emirates3/images/image025.jpg

It's not that bad.

I wonder if you can still view the big screens from any position in the ground. Looking at the bottom pic, maybe you can. That's another small annoyance about roof obstruction, not being able to check how long there is left on the clock!
I like the smooth ceiling though, maybe it wont feel quite so claustraphobic because of that.

2005

April 21st, 2006, 03:18 PM

Great stadium that by the looks of these fans will have racist fans or just twats.

http://www.awimb.com/fudforum/index.php?t=msg&th=125379&start=0&rid=0&S=6b59ee2c3f58a7af0902c51df11c833e

http://www.awimb.com/fudforum/index.php?t=msg&th=125364&start=0&rid=0&S=6b59ee2c3f58a7af0902c51df11c833e

Complete and utter disgrace.

Lets see whats so funny

http://members.aol.com/Elvissb/holo1.jpg

http://www.einsatzgruppenarchives.com/images/gassing.jpg
Just before they're gassed.

http://romove.radio.cz/en/article/20320

Oh sides are splitting

:|

Those people are not football fans they are a disgrace to the game.

2zanzibar

April 21st, 2006, 03:20 PM

hmm...looking at the webcam does indeed show 2 tents, pitched on what appears to be 2 long strips of something green!

tv123

April 21st, 2006, 03:28 PM

hmm...looking at the webcam does indeed show 2 tents, pitched on what appears to be 2 long strips of something green!

yeah it looks deffiniately green

tv123

April 21st, 2006, 03:35 PM

Great stadium that by the looks of these fans will have racist fans or just twats.

STADIUM THREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :bash:

2zanzibar

April 21st, 2006, 03:40 PM

Great stadium that by the looks of these fans will have racist fans or just twats.

Complete and utter disgrace.

Lets see whats so funny

I'm sorry 2005 but why are you showing us this? this is offensive and as you might've realised, this is a stadium forum and not a forum for bigoted maniacs.

Of course its deplorable, but if you want to show your feelings of disgust can you post them on the forums where you found it and where this stupid material is circulated: NOT on this one.

2005

April 21st, 2006, 03:40 PM

STADIUM THREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :bash:

True but it had to be said I don't want a anything like that at any ground imagine how impressed peaople from Isreal would if they hear ssssssss or gas gas gas gas.

BUT LIKE YOU SAID THIS IS A STADIUM THREAD

zee

April 21st, 2006, 03:55 PM

do you think the new stadium will affect our performance?

i think it will because they current pitch is smaller than the new stadium pitch therefore they will take time adapting to the new conditions...thats maybe the reasons why we dont perform well away

tv123

April 21st, 2006, 03:59 PM

zee

April 21st, 2006, 04:07 PM

^^ aye...but i still think that it will affect out performance slightly..cuz at home, quite frankly, wer unbeatable but it will take tiem adjusting to new surroundings and also a much bigger crowd on a weekly basis

atila

April 21st, 2006, 04:07 PM

Hi guys,

I am very sorry, but the Emirates Stadium looks like a complete copy of the "La Luz" in Lisbon.

Don't you think so?

James21

April 21st, 2006, 04:12 PM

it will suit arsenal more, more work for the opposition to close us down so more space to play. 2 or three seasons ago we would have struggled with it but not now, we are a much more expansive team

Ventura1

April 21st, 2006, 04:21 PM

Reptilikus

April 21st, 2006, 04:34 PM

I think it's sad that the roof slopes so much that the spectators can't see each other. I think that the stadium loses some atmosphere in that way

chester84

April 21st, 2006, 04:55 PM

True but it had to be said I don't want a anything like that at any ground imagine how impressed peaople from Isreal would if they hear ssssssss or gas gas gas gas.

BUT LIKE YOU SAID THIS IS A STADIUM THREAD

Yes 2005, this is a stadium thread. It is not an 'i hate arsenal thread' or a 'look how disgraceful some arsenal fans are' thread. If you felt that strongly about it you would surely ignore it, not spread it across to another website so more ppl are exposed to it.

Roar

April 21st, 2006, 05:08 PM

I think it's sad that the roof slopes so much that the spectators can't see each other. I think that the stadium loses some atmosphere in that way

I agree to an extent... however, it was designed to make supporters feel almost like their in a boxed up elevated terrace. A roof with a low dipped peak can help noise reverberate around the stadium. In terms of support I don't expect any of the 9,000 toffs to be singing. Which I don't care really they're there to watch and most importantly cough up HUGE amounts for brilliant footy. 23,000 Gooners in the Lower Ring, 9,000 Money Machines in the Middle and 28,000 Gooners in the Upper Ring.

chester84

April 21st, 2006, 05:14 PM

Money Machines - awesome :hahaha:

Socrates

April 21st, 2006, 05:45 PM

Yes it does, especially internally!

However I think that the Emirates stadium is more attractive externally because it has been finished better, it has more glazing and doesn't have the red exposed metal beams.

When the Emirates stadium is complete I think it will be a bit more unique in it's styling because judging by the earlier pictures the interior (bars, restaurants etc) is being finished like no other stadium in the world.I think Estadio Da Luz has the advantage in capacity though.

They are both excellent stadiums!

The internals of Emirates are very impressive, and the only stadium that compares is the Brox, imo.

http://i3.tinypic.com/w1d05s.jpg

http://i3.tinypic.com/w1cuio.jpg

http://i3.tinypic.com/w1cutc.jpg

http://i3.tinypic.com/w1cwld.jpg

eddyk

April 21st, 2006, 05:53 PM

Be careful as not to flood the thread with pics of other stadiums.

Ventura1

April 21st, 2006, 06:08 PM

Socrates,

That is very impressive, I have never seen pictures of the interior at Ibrox, quite stunning!

It looks like Arsenal are going with the same old world classic charm as Highbury (and Ibrox) but are trying to mix it with a more modern, contemporary and open feel which makes sense as it's a new stadium of course.

chester84

April 21st, 2006, 06:45 PM

Highbury is full of features, such as the Marble Halls, Clock End clock etc. which shows and describes the history of the club and gives the old stadium the character and romance which makes Highbury so unique to Arsenal fans.

I'm glad classic interior is being used in the Emirates and hopefully features such as a replica clock from The Clock End and signs showing the recent history and records of the club shown in the pictures below carry over that unique 'character' which is usually missing from new stadiums.

http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/432/diamondclub0021eo6gh.jpg

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/1059/diamondclub0092bi1dj.jpg

It will be interesting to see the interior design of the general admission areas though, to see if as much care and thought has been put into them as the Diamond Club.

matherto

April 21st, 2006, 06:53 PM

WHAM

April 21st, 2006, 08:38 PM

Looking at those pics, the inside of Ibrox looks like one of those dodgy pub/restaurant places that offer '2for1' meals and sell shite beer.

As for the mini da Luz, am I the only one that thinks the interior is a bit tacky? It's got a touch of the Trump Tower about it. Sure they have marble associated with Highbury but that's no reason to plaster it everywhere they get the opportunity to. Talk about overkill.

Socrates

April 21st, 2006, 08:41 PM

Be careful as not to flood the thread with pics of other stadiums.

I'll try my best, Ed.

Madman

April 21st, 2006, 09:25 PM

mauritius gunner

April 21st, 2006, 10:12 PM

Hi guys,

I am very sorry, but the Emirates Stadium looks like a complete copy of the "La Luz" in Lisbon.

Don't you think so?

Actually mate, I think you probably find it was the other way round. You forget Emirates is over 2 years behind schedule

Emirates was originally designed by HOK & LOBB Sport back in 1999, and has remained virtually unchanged ever since. This would have been before UEFA even awarded Portugal Euro 2004, when La Luz and other stadiums in Portugal were only in planning stage.

The same architects, HOK sport designed La Luz, it has more or less the same seating plan as Emirates, but the roof is very different. So it remains a copy, albeit a 'cheaper' copy, costing only 120m Euros which is only a fraction of Emirates whopping £352m.

I think in the end, La Luz will in fact be NO comparison to Emirates in quality.

WHAM

April 21st, 2006, 10:15 PM

They're very similar that's for sure. The Emirates is like a little mini La Luz. Both nice but hardly radical.

mauritius gunner

April 21st, 2006, 10:30 PM

Mini La Luz??

Its only got 5000 fewer seats

WHAM

April 21st, 2006, 10:35 PM

Mini La Luz??

Its only got 5000 fewer seats

Yes but that's because of seat room. Arsenal's is a lot less. If La Luz had the same seat space as at Arsenal, it would have a capacity of 74,698.

It's a far bigger stadium. You only have to look at it to realise it's nowhere near the same size.

James21

April 21st, 2006, 10:36 PM

Somehow I dont think the general admission will be up to that, but then who wants it to be? The Diamond Club is basically the directors box so it fits that it looks so good, just like highbury it has to have class. It's hardly plastering the marble around, it's a very small area!

General Admission will be just like Highbury but with better tvs, bars, restaurants, and more room. Oh and the bars can pull loads of pints a second which is very important! Club level is much better but then you get what you pay for, i think they have done it very well - it will have the class as well as the basic facilities for all, in short, immense!

Oh and at old trafford they dont even have big screens which i still cant get over, they even have them at white hart lane!

mauritius gunner

April 21st, 2006, 10:36 PM

At the end of the day, we could have got bigger, had Islington Borough allowed them, but they had planning and environmental restraints and lack of transport links getting to and from the ground. Instead, Arsenal ploughed more money into every other facet of the stadium.

It's going to be a MUCH better stadium.

La Luz already is fantistic ground and already has UEFA 5 star accreditation.
Ironically, if ours is better, it should be 6 or 7 star. It is called the EMIRATES afterall

WHAM

April 21st, 2006, 10:38 PM

Those chandeliers are a complete embarrassment.

MoreOrLess

April 21st, 2006, 10:39 PM

Actually mate, I think you probably find it was the other way round. You forget Emirates is over 2 years behind schedule

Emirates was originally designed by HOK & LOBB Sport back in 1999, and has remained virtually unchanged ever since. This would have been before UEFA even awarded Portugal Euro 2004, when La Luz and other stadiums in Portugal were only in planning stage.

The same architects, HOK sport designed La Luz, it has more or less the same seating plan as Emirates, but the roof is very different. So it remains a copy, albeit a 'cheaper' copy, costing only 120m Euros which is only a fraction of Emirates whopping £352m.

I think in the end, La Luz will in fact be NO comparison to Emirates in quality.

Da Luz has a bigger capacity and taller stands with better views but within its height/capacity restrictions placed on it Emirates does look to be of a higher quality. Cost wise Da Luz was always going to be cheaper being built in portugal, the flipside being its not going to be earning anywhere near as much money.

Someone mentioned the possibility of increasing the capacity earlier, looking at the pics I don't really see any scope for building work but I spose they could have left some space for to add in extra seats once the stadium/infrastructure has prooved itself ala Allianz Arena.

tv123

April 21st, 2006, 10:39 PM

Those chandeliers are a complete embarrassment.

i think you dont like this stadium

ok :sleepy:

mauritius gunner

April 21st, 2006, 10:43 PM

Yes but that's because of seat room. Arsenal's is a lot less. If La Luz had the same seat space as at Arsenal, it would have a capacity of 74,698.

It's a far bigger stadium. You only have to look at it to realise it's nowhere near the same size.

WHAT!? No way man, have you seen some of the pictures taken earlier on in this thread? Emirates has a much wider seating berth than any other ground with wide comfortable seats and a bigger legroom than any other ground.

La Luz doesn't come close. Frankly, if it is a much bigger stadium, I think it would have cost much more than a potsy 120m Euros. :nuts:

WHAM

April 21st, 2006, 10:49 PM

WHAT!? No way man, have you seen some of the pictures taken earlier on in this thread? Emirates has a much wider seating berth than any other ground with wide comfortable seats and a bigger legroom than any other ground.

La Luz doesn't come close. Frankly, if it is a much bigger stadium, I think it would have cost much more than a potsy 120m Euros. :nuts:

I have the facts and figures. Leg-room is bigger at Benfica. Don't rely on that though, just look at both stadiums and see the vast difference in size for yourself.

I think Arsenal's looks better from the outside, I've not seen La Luz from the inside but I expect Arsenal's to have the higher spec there, too (even taking those dodgy chandeliers into account) but Benfica's will be better where it really counts: outside watching the game.

mauritius gunner

April 21st, 2006, 10:50 PM

Da Luz has a bigger capacity and taller stands with better views but within its height/capacity restrictions placed on it Emirates does look to be of a higher quality. Cost wise Da Luz was always going to be cheaper being built in portugal, the flipside being its not going to be earning anywhere near as much money.

Someone mentioned the possibility of increasing the capacity earlier, looking at the pics I don't really see any scope for building work but I spose they could have left some space for to add in extra seats once the stadium/infrastructure has prooved itself ala Allianz Arena.

Only Labor is going to be cheaper in Portugal, but not that much- they are still an EU country don't forget, so they won't exactly be paid like Northern Chinamen!

Construction material such as Steel, glass and concrete costs the same virtually the world over and would account for 40-50% of the total build cost.

Its AlL gUUd

April 21st, 2006, 10:51 PM

Emirates is better in spec compared to da Luz, only the capacity gives da luz something more, otherwise emirates is better.

chester84

April 21st, 2006, 10:52 PM

Yes but that's because of seat room. Arsenal's is a lot less. If La Luz had the same seat space as at Arsenal, it would have a capacity of 74,698.

It's a far bigger stadium. You only have to look at it to realise it's nowhere near the same size.

Thats an interesting fact, i thought the Emirates individual seat areas were one of the largest in Europe. Where did you get that info. from WHAM?

mauritius gunner

April 21st, 2006, 10:52 PM

I have the facts and figures. .

Yeah right....

put your money where your mouth is

WHAM

April 21st, 2006, 11:01 PM

Thats an interesting fact, i thought the Emirates individual seat areas were one of the largest in Europe. Where did you get that info. from WHAM?

It's on the Wembley site.

Jack Rabbit Slim

April 21st, 2006, 11:02 PM

I think playing at this new stadium WILL affect Arsenal's style of play, and possibly their quality, because Arsenal have developed a style of play that is well suited to a smaller pitch, in which they can play inwardly, passing quick sharp balls in the middle, whereas teams like Man United are more used to a lot of space in which they can spread the ball out wide, so I think Arsenal may find it quite difficult to adapt at first, but the quality should still be there (as long as Henry stays ;) )

:cheers:

mauritius gunner

April 21st, 2006, 11:03 PM

Only Labor is going to be cheaper in Portugal, but not that much- they are still an EU country don't forget, so they won't exactly be paid like Northern Chinamen!

Construction material such as Steel, glass and concrete costs the same virtually the world over and would account for 40-50% of the total build cost.

Actually, that may not entirely be accurate. In La Luz sense, 40-50% materials, 30% labour, 20% land acquisition and landscaping (already owned by Benfica) is probably right.

So 60m euros on materials, or £40m.

Emirates, £260m (stadium only), much more would have been spent on land acquisition, planning and compolsory purchase orders probably £80m, lets say 30%

Much higher labour costs in London + first class builder, £60-70m? Say 25%

That leaves 45% on building construction material, or £117m, compared with £40m.

This is purely speculative, not based on fact

MoreOrLess

April 21st, 2006, 11:03 PM

Only Labor is going to be cheaper in Portugal, but not that much- they are still an EU country don't forget, so they won't exactly be paid like Northern Chinamen!

Construction material such as Steel, glass and concrete costs the same virtually the world over and would account for 60-65% of the total build cost

I'd guess labour is a far bit cheaper in Portugal along with more than a few other factors, I wouldnt be supprized if that 120 mill euro cost for Da Luz is less than 100% accurate either given it was at least partly public money. That said I don't doubt that even taking that into account Emirates cost a good deal more.

I think you have to consider why they were both built, Emirates was obviously to bring in as much income as possible where as Da Luz was built to host euro 2004. As at Wembley spending alot of luxury facilities pays off in the longrun as they offer a much better return on money spent than the rest of the stadium(almost 50% of the predicted income wasnt it?).

mauritius gunner

April 21st, 2006, 11:12 PM

It's on the Wembley site.

I've just had a look myself, where? Why on earth will they be talking about 'legroom' of da Luz on the Wembley website.

Sorry, mate, but that sounds like a load of shite

mauritius gunner

April 21st, 2006, 11:15 PM

I'd guess labour is a far bit cheaper in Portugal along with more than a few other factors, I wouldnt be supprized if that 120 mill euro cost for Da Luz is less than 100% accurate either given it was at least partly public money. That said I don't doubt that even taking that into account Emirates cost a good deal more.

I think you have to consider why they were both built, Emirates was obviously to bring in as much income as possible where as Da Luz was built to host euro 2004. As at Wembley spending alot of luxury facilities pays off in the longrun as they offer a much better return on money spent than the rest of the stadium(almost 50% of the predicted income wasnt it?).
Actually you may have a point about public money, where politics is concerned there are always 'hidden' costs. I still think Emirates is far superior though, and not that much smaller either

chester84

April 21st, 2006, 11:15 PM

It's on the Wembley site.

I think you are telling porkys there WHAM, the site does quote seat areas but not for da luz or emirates :|

I agree Arsenal will need some time to adapt to their new surroundings, although I don't think the size of the pitch will have that much of an affect because they play on pitches bigger than Highburys every other game so I don't think it'll be that much of a jump for them. I suppose we'll have to wait and see.... ;)

WHAM

April 21st, 2006, 11:18 PM

I think you are telling porkys there WHAM, the site does quote seat areas but not for da luz or emirates :|

I agree Arsenal will need some time to adapt to their new surroundings, although I don't think the size of the pitch will have that much of an affect because they play on pitches bigger than Highburys every other game so I don't think it'll be that much of a jump for them. I suppose we'll have to wait and see.... ;)

They regularly change the stadiums. I also have it on a document. When I get home from work I'll scan it in and post on here. Anyway, I think the mini La Luz has the edge over its bigger brother (from what I've seen). Just.

mauritius gunner

April 21st, 2006, 11:22 PM

They regularly change the stadiums. I also have it on a document. When I get home from work I'll scan it in and post on here. Anyway, I think the mini La Luz has the edge over its bigger brother (from what I've seen). Just.

ohh pleeaaase!! :hahaha:

eddyk

April 21st, 2006, 11:45 PM

Welly?

Disraeli

April 21st, 2006, 11:53 PM

It was always weird watching Arsenal on tv when they played at Highbury. With its small pitch dimensions and low tv gantry, the playing field looked really tiny and tight for space. Its gonna be weird seing Arsenal playing in a larger open space.

KiwiBrit

April 22nd, 2006, 12:42 AM

Originally Posted by eddyk
Welly?

Bubomb? :runaway:

Its AlL gUUd

April 22nd, 2006, 12:46 AM

zee

April 22nd, 2006, 12:48 AM

2zanzibar

April 22nd, 2006, 02:21 AM

They only play on the Highbury turf once a fortnight.

The rest of the time (apart from away games) they are at the training ground which holds 12 pitches of varying dimensions. Its absurd to think that they'll find it difficult to adapt to a new scale. The dimensions of the Emirates pitch has been calculated by Wenger himself, according to what will be the MOST suitable

Disraeli

April 22nd, 2006, 05:00 AM

so u haven't seen Arsenal play away matches?? :runaway:

I was referring to when they play at home in europe mainly.

Socrates

April 22nd, 2006, 02:50 PM

i'm still not convinced about this stadium.

http://i3.tinypic.com/w6ut0o.jpg

eddyk

April 22nd, 2006, 03:01 PM

It has HD screens though!!!!!!!!!!

tv123

April 22nd, 2006, 03:44 PM

i'm still not convinced about this stadium.

http://i3.tinypic.com/w6ut0o.jpg

its still under construction

Jack Rabbit Slim

April 22nd, 2006, 03:56 PM

Great game today lads! Well...great if, like me, you're a neutral watching it! First half was a little dull, but good God the second half came alive like a boxing match!
Did anyone else see Wenger and Martin Jole squaring up to eachother after the first goal, I seriously thought Wenger was gonna headbut him or something! Who knows whether that first goal should have stood or not, as the act of kicking the ball out of play is more professional curtesy then an actual rule...but u aint ever gonna get professional curtesy between Spurs and Arsenal! ;) But what a response from Henry, that was a masterclass of a goal!

I still think Spurs will finish forth though, so it loks as if next year's CL will depend on Arsenal winning it this year!

:cheers: