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this list includes 15 of the best Football teams the world has ever seen(only in club's level).
please,select your best ever 5 teams.vote for exactlly 5!
discuss...

Liverpool
Celtic
Real Madrid
Ajax
Santos

Manchester United
Liverpool
Real Madrid
AC Milan
Nottingham Forest

now you have a list.select the best 5 between them.as you can see,the thread is about specific teams in very specific periods.
I vote for:Ajax of 95',Milan of 89'-90',Liverpool of 77'-78',Juventus of 96' and Ajax of 71'-73'.those were the best 5 teams the world has ever seen,in my opinion.

No Chelsea 2005 - 20.....?

Liverpool 76/77, 77/78, 79/80, 87/88

Milan 89/90

Piece of piss this.

I'd have loved to have seen the Liverpool and Milan teams of the late 80's play each other.

Wolves 1955-60 - because of them theres a Champions League today

Post-War Success
When league football resumed in 1946, Wolves suffered yet another heartbreaking failure in the First Division. Just as in 1938, victory in their last match of the season against Liverpool would have won the title but a 2-1 win gave the 1947 championship to the Merseyside club instead. That game had been the last in a Wolves shirt for Stan Cullis, and a year later he became manager of the club. In Cullis' first season in charge he led Wolves to a first major honour in 41 years as they beat Leicester City 3-1 in the FA Cup Final, and a year later only goal average prevented a first league title being won.

The 1950s were by far the most successful period in the history of Wolverhampton Wanderers. Captained by Billy Wright, Wolves finally claimed the league championship for the first time in 1954, overhauling local rivals West Bromwich Albion late in the season. The club was described by some as the greatest football team in the world after beating the Hungarian side Honvéd 3-2, having been 2-0 down at half time. Spartak Moscow, Dynamo Moscow and Real Madrid all came to Molineux and were beaten. Wolves were also league champions in 1958 and 1959, and in 1960 became the first team to pass the 100 goal mark for three seasons in succession. Coming agonisingly close to a hat-trick of titles and the first "double" of the twentieth century, Wolves finished just one point behind Burnley and had to make do with a fourth FA Cup win, beating Blackburn Rovers 3-0 in the final.

Tottenham Hotspurs 1961-1963
Nottingham Forest 1978-1980
Barcelona 2005/06
Arsenal 2003/04
Manchester United 1998/99

Its a shame this period gets over looked, it was the time when Real Madrid dominated European football, but only because Wolves and English teams werent allowed to compete thanks to the Football Association. Because of this Real Madrid offered Wolves a double legged match, both home & away. Wolves won both.



September 29 1954 - Champions Wolverhampton Wanderers and FA Cup holders West Bromwich Albion share the Charity Shield after a 4-4 draw.

November 16 1954 - Wolverhampton Wanderers defeat Spartak Moscow 4-0 at Molineux, a team widely regarded as one of the best in the world.

December 13 1954 - Wolves restore some pride to English football with a 3-2 win over Budapest Honvéd FC of Hungary, a team containing seven Hungarian internationals who defeated England 6-3 at Wembley in 1953, including Ferenc Puskás. It prompts the famous newspaper headline, which proclaims Wolves as the best team in the world.

I don't think that a team which haven't competed in the big stages can be called great.

Heres a nice article

How an English boast and a French riposte launched the Chamions League
Friday, 30 September 2005

The millions of fans who revel in the glamour and excitement of the UEFA Champions League can thank a legendary English club manager and an innovative French sports journalist for making it all possible 50 years ago.

It is in 1955 that we find the genesis of the most compelling of all the continental football competitions. Its progenitor was Gabriel Hanot, editor of the famous all-sports daily L’Equipe, in time the most successful of all French newspapers, who had long cherished the idea of initiating a European club championship.

The real spur to his desire came from Stan Cullis, manager of Wolverhampton Wanderers, the outstanding English team of the 1950s. Cullis pricked Hanot into action when he proclaimed his club “the best football team in the world” after they had beaten the star-studded Honved of Hungary in a friendly match.

In response to Cullis’s boast, Hanot retorted: “We better wait until the Wolves travel to Moscow and Budapest to proclaim their invincibility; but if the English are so sure about their hegemony in football, this is the time to create a European tournament.”

L’Equipe had already created a monumental precedent in sporting innovation. Three years after its birth under the title L’Auto in 1900, the newspaper organised a big cycle race to help grow its circulation.

They called it the Tour de France and the newspaper’s sales shot from 25 000 before the first race in 1903 to 65 000 after it. By the 1923 Tour, sales had hit 500 000 and ten years later they peaked at 854 000.

In 1919 it was decided that the race leader should be awarded a yellow jersey in keeping with the yellow newsprint on which L’Auto was printed.

Cullis was a man who lived and breathed Wolverhampton Wanderers. He made 155 appearances in the famous black and old gold strip, captaining them at the age of 20, and earning 12 full caps for England before the second world war cut short his career.

He was in fact appointed England captain at the age of 22 – the youngest yet – but the match against Romania was the last international before war broke out. He continued to play in 20 wartime internationals and Ferenc Puskas, the masterful Hungarian goalscorer, described him as “the most classical centre-half of his time”.

Cullis would go on to manage Wolves between 1948-1964 and his legend was writ when, under his disciplined guidance and a controversial “long ball” strategy, they won the English League in 1954, 1958 and 1959, finished runners-up in 1950, 1955 and 1960, and came third in 1953 and 1956. They also lifted the FA Cup in 1949 and 1960.

Puskas was a key member of Hungary’s national team that was called the Magic Magyars for its great exploits of the 1950s. Among their triumphs was the 6-3 thumping of England in 1953 which was the first win by a foreign team at Wembley.

It was that same year that Wolves, under Cullis, restored English pride by beating Honved, packed with Hungarian internationals including Puskas, 3-2 at Molineux Stadium in Wolverhampton.

In the same season at Molineux, Wolves beat Spartak Moscow 4-0 and Moscow Dynamo 2-1.

All these matches were friendlies played at night. Floodlit football was a new innovation and, interestingly, the Molineux lights were first tested in 1953 against the visiting South African team.

It was noteworthy that Hanot’s plan for a “European Cup” had always included a stipulation that matches be played midweek under lights. This would allow working folk to attend the football.

His audacious plan was tabled to European football bosses early in 1955. It did not meet with immediate approval because counter-proposals were on the table, including the acceptance of the Fairs Cup which would be played simultaneously in cities hosting trade fairs that conveniently picked up the tab for the football matches.

It was only several months later that the world governing body Fifa stepped in to help steer Hanot’s plan to fruition. It ruled, however, that the name “European Cup” would be saved for a future championship contested by national teams.

Thus, on 4 September 1955, the European Champion Clubs' Cup was launched (it was renamed the UEFA Champions League in 1992) with the first game in Lisbon between Sporting CP of Portugal and FK Partizan of Yugoslavia.

Real Madrid, for whom Puskas was to star, were the dominant team that would be crowned champions in the first five years of the new tournament’s existence. Wolves never did win the championship that Cullis and Hanot had helped create.

Today, Wolves are a mid-table team in England’s second-tier Championship league, but Molineux remains a proud ground that is presided over by a magnificent statue of Stan Cullis and a grandstand bearing his name.

By Rodney Hartman

I don't think that a team which haven't competed in the big stages can be called great.

But thats the point, they played every team that challenged them and beat them. including the European Champions of 5 years in a row. I dont really think you understand, what Wolves did for English and European football during this time period.

Magic nights under Molineux lights

No tribute to Wolves would be complete without recollection of the nights which saw the name of Wolverhampton Wanderers writ large on the world stage.

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Bert Williams trots towards the dressing room and Eddie Stuart shakes hands with the great Ferenc Puskas after the epic win over Honved at Molineux in 1954
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For today's generation to be aware of the significance of Wolves win over Honved on Monday December 13, 1954, you need to be aware of what had happened just a year before.
On a foggy November day at Wembley the myth of English soccer supremacy had been shattered forever by a team of gifted Hungarians led by a slightly chubby one-footed player called Ferenc Puskas.

The Magical Magyars became the first Continental side to beat England in their own backyard and they did not just beat them - they annihilated them 6-3

To add insult to that Wembley injury, England were then beaten 7-1 in the return in Budapest.

So when crack Hungraian club side Honved came to Wolverhampton, boasting six of the national side, including Puskas, Sandor Kocsis and Josef Bozsik it was not just about Wolves pride it was about national pride.

And after 14 minutes it did not look as though the men from Wolverhampton would salvage any of that when they trailed 2-0 thanks to goals from Kocsis and Machos.

Then with BBC cameras broadcasting the second half Wolves staged an epic comeback.

Johnny Hancocks pulled a goal back from the penalty spot and centre forward Roy Swinbourne struck twice to seal a memorable victory on a night that lived long in the memories of the 54,998 who were there.

A month earlier, Wolves had entertained top Russian side Moscow Spartak under the Molineux lights and did not break the deadlock until Dennis Wilshaw struck on 63 minutes.

In the last five minutes, however, Hancocks (2) and Swinbourne hit the goals that brought Wolves a 4-0 win.

It was these sort of prestige club games that paved the way for the European Cup.

Typically the FA and League did not encourage English clubs to take part in the early tournaments which saw Real Madrid emerge as the major team in Europe.

So it was quite an occasion when Real came to Molineux as European champions in 1957 to play Wolves in a friendly under new higher brighter floodlights on Thursday, October 17.

There were 55,169 to see the Spaniards who struck first through Marsal on 14 minutes. Peter Broadbent and Jimmy Murray put Wolves in front in the second half before Marsal struck again after 71 minutes

Wolves were not done and Dennis Wilshaw hooked home the winner.

It was a fitting climax to Wilshaw's Wolves career as soon he was to leave Molineux for Stoke City.

This victory was achieved without Billy Wright, who was with the England team, and George Showell, as he so often did, proved a more than able deputy even though opposed by a forward line who included Alfredo di Stefano, Raymond Kopa and Francisco Gento.

For good measure Wolves went to Madrid later the same year and held Real 2-2. Bobby Mason gave Wolves the lead, Real went 2-1 up but Jimmy Mullen's centre took a deflection to level matters nine minutes from time.
Few nights can compare to these though the new stadium is still capable of providing drama by floodlight. Witness Wednesday, February 8, 1995 when Wolves met Sheffield Wednesday in a fourth round FA Cup replay.

The match ended 1-1 after extra time but then came a penalty shoot-out whose drama evoked memories of Honved for those old enough. Down 3-0 in the shoot-out Wolves came back to win it 4-3, 'keeper Paul Jones and final scorer Don Goodman taking the main honours.

So why haven't that Wolves side competed in the European cups?

keep voting mates.

Not until you include Leeds United 1968-75.

So why haven't that Wolves side competed in the European cups?

Which bit of the last article didnt you read? It was discouraged and the only time Wolves did enter they lost to Schalke 4-3 on aggregate, but fielded a weaken team in the process, during the 50's Wolves dominated the English game and proved there worth on the International stage, they even beat Racing Club of Argentina after they challenged Wolves credidentials as "The best team in the world" - without them you could argue European football would'nt be where it is today.

The Invincibles of Arsenal

The Invincibles of Arsenal
49 games and then who beat them?

during the 50's Wolves dominated the English game.

No they didn't! Wolves won the first division title three times, 1953-54, 1957-58, 1958-59 and were runners up twice. 1954-55, 1959-60.

Man Utd also won the first division three times, 1951-52, 1955-56, 1956-57 and were also runners up twice. 1950-51, 1958-59

Also remember Man Utd lost a team in the 1957-58 season.

Wolves were a great side, but to say they dominated the English game in the fifties, is total rubbish.

El dream team Barcelona 1 & 2
Bayern Munich
Santos
and Juveentus

What about the Manchester United European Cup winning side of 1968? As well as beating the team many considered to be the best team in Europe- Benfica 4-1 in the final, they also beat them 5-1 away from home the previous season. That was at a time when the big teams very rarely lost at home in Europe.

Santos??????Just because of Pelé ???!!!!!!!!!!!

Boca Juniors won far more tournaments (Nac&Internacional) than Santos!
Not to talk about World Clubs Cups! And also known for the constant raising&supply of universal talents like Maradona, Gatti,Tevez, Palermo, Palacio, etc

But there is even one other argie team which won more Copa Libertadores than Boca, I am talking of my team`s enemies: Independiente
Also the ranking looks like that:
Independiente de Avellaneda=7 Times
Boca Jrs.= 5 Times
Santos= 2 Times

Bayern Munich 2001(Hitzfeld era)

Did a lot that team, I think they won the treble...but by God that Champions League is by far the worst I have ever seen. It was so boring. It was 1-1 after 90 mins. Both goals were scored from the spot and the final was in the end decided by Pens. How that team is in the poll ahead of the 94 Inter Milan team that thrashed Cruyff's barca 4-0 is beyond me.

The only English team to win THE Treble! MUFC 1998-99

Liverpool 1970 - 1990 :) 5 times!!!

Liverpool 1970 - 1990 :) 5 times!!!

So it's 6 with the 2005 win then!? :)

My vote goes to the great Real Madrid side that won 5 on the run, and included great players like Puskas, Di Stefano and Hento etc.

The Ajax side of 1971-1973 come a close second.

No 5 all together

England 2006 :)

Man utd 98/99

Won Premiership, FA Cup, European Cup and World Club Cup won in Tokyo.

Man utd 98/99

Won Premiership, FA Cup, European Cup and World Club Cup won in Tokyo.

For some inexplicable reason they were not included on the list.

Hello mates.I am new and I'm glad to joy. :)
this list includes 15 of the best Football teams the world has ever seen(only in club's level).
please,select your best ever 5 teams.vote for exactlly 5!
discuss...

Petrolul Ploeisti

I'd put the current Barcelona up there.

¿Santos?

Can be Boca Juniors or Peñarol for South America. (Only candidates Ok)

¿Santos?

Can be Boca Juniors or Peñarol for South America. (Only candidates Ok)

Totally agree with you. Also I would include Independiente de Avellaneda.

For some inexplicable reason they were not included on the list.

And 1998/99 featured some of the most nailbiting and exciting games, including the most dramatic closing minutes of a European Final and argubly the greatest FA cup goal ever scored and that's just scratching the surface of that season!

Man Utd were outplayed for most of that game though, it was a travesty Bayern Munich lost really.

Anyone with an ounce of sense will tell you that AC Milan had the greatest team of all time.

Anyone with an ounce of sense will tell you that AC Milan had the greatest team of all time.

There were no English teams in the European cup for that season including a good Liverpool side which is probably one of the reasons why AC Milan won it that season.

Liverpool 5. London 0.

Liverpool 5. London 0.

Between '76 and '85, Liverpool reached 6 European finals (1 UEFA & 5 European Cup finals), won Uefa Cup, 4 European Cups, 7 league titles and 4 League Cups. But for Heysel and being drawn against bogey team Forest in the first round in '78-79, it might have been a whole lot more. Forest are on that list, Cloughies '79-'80 side, but I doubt even Cloughie would dispute that Liverpool were a better side at that time!

Man Utd were outplayed for most of that game though, it was a travesty Bayern Munich lost really.

It was their own fault, they thought they had won it. United didn't start playing until injury time, they froze as well as having two of their key players missing.

If it had gone to extra time instead United would have murdered them.

Forest are on that list, Cloughies '79-'80 side, but I doubt even Cloughie would dispute that Liverpool were a better side at that time!

The only way to settle that argument would have been for Liverpool to play Forest over two legs in the European Cup and see who comes out on top.

:)

The only way to settle that argument would have been for Liverpool to play Forest over two legs in the European Cup and see who comes out on top.

:)


By that method, Liverpool were better than Chelsea under Mourinho.

By that method, Liverpool were better than Chelsea under Mourinho.

Correct.

Correct.

So you're agreed then, Liverpool were the best football team in Europe during the late 70s...

In the league in the 78-79 season, when Forest first won the European Cup...

Liverpool: played 42, won 30, drew 8, lost 4
Forest : played 42, won 21, drew 18, lost 3

A record points total in the 2 point system

If you translate that to 3 points, that would've been 98 points, which would also be a record I think?

Liverpool were still favourites for the European Cup at the start of the 79-80 season IIRC?

So you're agreed then, Liverpool were the best football team in Europe during the late 70s...

In the league in the 78-79 season, when Forest first won the European Cup...

Liverpool: played 42, won 30, drew 8, lost 4
Forest : played 42, won 21, drew 18, lost 3

A record points total in the 2 point system

If you translate that to 3 points, that would've been 98 points, which would also be a record I think?

Liverpool were still favourites for the European Cup at the start of the 79-80 season IIRC?

Fair enough, I can't argue with you there Joshef.

I originally questioned why the United team of the 1998/1999 season weren't included in the list when they only lost a total of 4 games in all competitions - one in the league cup and three in the league - and in the process won the Premier League, the Champions League and the FA Cup.

Fair enough, I can't argue with you there Joshef.

I originally questioned why the United team of the 1998/1999 season weren't included in the list when they only lost a total of 4 games in all competitions - one in the league cup and three in the league - and in the process won the Premier League, the Champions League and the FA Cup.


They should be in the poll, I agree. There is an old BBC article that posed a similar question, I remember reading it at the time.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_point/353585.stm

Liverpool 76/77, 77/78, 79/80, 87/88

Milan 89/90

Piece of piss this.

I'd have loved to have seen the Liverpool and Milan teams of the late 80's play each other.

I stand by this and as the song goes "Kenny's side of '88, there's never been a team so great".

Libpool yoof of 2011 look handy though.

There were no English teams in the European cup for that season including a good Liverpool side which is probably one of the reasons why AC Milan won it that season.

Sorry. I don't know why this dude who made this thread only included the Milan 89 team but between the late 80s, 90s and 00s Milan have won 5 CL and a whole host of other shit. Many of those trophies came with the same core of players. They were, by far, the greatest team of all time!

I stand by this and as the song goes "Kenny's side of '88, there's never been a team so great".

Libpool yoof of 2011 look handy though.


I remember Hansen saying the late 70s team were miles ahead of the '88 side.

The Real Madrid of what many consider to be the greatest player in history Alfredo Distefano will never be surpassed

The Real Madrid of what many consider to be the greatest player in history Alfredo Distefano will never be surpassed

They were surpassed by AC Milan a long time ago. Football was easier to dominate back then and less teams participated in the CL. AC Milan dominated in a modern era of world class players.

AC Milan >>> Real Madrid

They were surpassed by AC Milan a long time ago. Football was easier to dominate back then and less teams participated in the CL. AC Milan dominated in a modern era of world class players.

AC Milan >>> Real Madrid


Contrary to popular belief the Champions of each Euro country were already involved in the competition . And how do you measure world class ? Its easy to come up with new tactics or theories or to develop players physically when it has already been done. Real Madrid were on a level playing field . The game wasnt infested with sports enhancing drugs like today. Christ their boots and ball wouldnt even pass an occupational health and safety test these days .

REal Madrid dominated as no other club or even current Madrid side ( no matter how many millions the spend) will ever dominate.