^^But I don't want to turn gothic. :cry: Z Gallerie, Apple, and Cheesecake Factory are all now confirmed to be coming to Magnolia Park Town Center according to a very reliable source that is involved with the project. :)

Anybody know where I can find plumbing permits that have been issued in the City of Greenville online? Thanks.

Photo of the day. Well, actually two of them. New YMCA:
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http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc56/lilj4425/002-3.jpg

^^ Nice! Is that the main one on Cleveland Street?

^^Yes. Too bad forumers like NYTransplant, maninthepark, RestedTraveler, and Skyliner seem to no longer be on board. :ohno: Where did everybody go? Did they die or something?

Is it time for bed yet?

How about now? Sleeping is for weiners. :D

g-man, the nocturnal forumer :lol:

The white truck was near the pinnacle site today. I rode by there. Also there is good activity on the peacock site. No activity on the city hall site.

The white truck was near the pinnacle site today. I rode by there. Also there is good activity on the peacock site. No activity on the city hall site.

Thanks for the updates! :)

^^Expect pics later today if they're on site when I drive by. ;)

I took some with my phone. The big white truck was down beside the Daniel building parking lot when I saw it. I went for a ride between my physics class lecture and the lab part of the class

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f361/erm1981/0109080957b.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f361/erm1981/0109080952b.jpg

^^I took pics too which i'll post in a little bit in the right sub-forum. ;)

Photo of the day. Erm1981 will like this one seeing how he is working on the project. LivN-Nout Wellness Center:
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc56/lilj4425/005-4.jpg

Growth is still the buzz in Simpsonville

Published: Wednesday, January 9, 2008 - 1:00 pm

By Nathaniel Cary-Greenville News staff

Simpsonville City Council welcomed two new members to their first business meeting, Tuesday night, but the city’s recent theme of growth issues remained the same as it approved a giant mixed-use subdivision, changes to a development near West Georgia Road, and initial approval for a new hotel.

City Council gave its blessing to rezone 162 acres of property that borders Heritage Park for a 715 home mixed-use subdivision, despite some concerns about its proximity to the park’s amphitheater.

New Councilman George Curtis questioned whether proposed townhouses should be built overlooking the amphitheater and if buyers would know that the city expects to host regional and national acts – and sometimes loud performances - on the stage.

Curtis wanted to avoid “homeowners in our audience out here upset that Freedom Weekend (Aloft) or any other event would be too loud or too long.”

Mark Holmes, an attorney representing the developers of Glenna Jones’ property, said the market would let them know who would want to live near the park. There are specific buyers the developers would be looking for, he said.

City Administrator Russell Hawes agreed and pointed to two more developing subdivisions – Heritage Point and Heritage Creek – as examples that people want to live near the park.

“We believe very strongly that people will locate there for the very reason that the amphitheater is there and that the amenity of Heritage Park is so close by,” Hawes said.

At question is property that sits just south of the park where developers have drawn plans to build 300 townhouse units and 415 houses in a mixed-use development.

The front portion of the property would be designated for retail along South East Main Street and the developers would donate 25 acres of land to Simpsonville to use as additional parking for Heritage Park.

Developers want to build in two phases and site plans show part of the subdivision lies on property that hasn’t yet been annexed into Simpsonville. Additionally, developers hope to build houses on property inside Fountain Inn city limits.

Two access points along South East Main Street are planned and a third could open up onto Howard Drive at the back portion of the subdivision, Holmes said.

The council voted 6-0 in favor of rezoning the land to planned development for the subdivision.

The council also voted in favor of two properties on 17 acres on West Georgia and Hammond roads that Juan Maldonado wants to annex and rezone for a planned development.

He previously stated his intent to build a gated subdivision on the property.

Also near West Georgia Road, the council voted in favor of a site plan change that allows the developers of Patton Park, which includes a Bloom shopping center, to build a mixed-use development on a second part of their property.

Fort Properties has agreed to let McCall Capital build 288 apartments on the property in addition to retail and office space. The original plan called for an 87-home subdivision to be built as the second phase of Patton Park.

Finally, City Council voted on the first of two required readings to annex and rezone 2.1 acres on Grandview Drive to C-2 commercial to be developed into a four story Comfort Suites hotel next to Interstate 385.

First tenant for this development: http://www.furmanco.com/pdfs/Mkt%20Pkg%20%20-%20W%20Georgia%20Rd%2010-06.pdf has been announced:
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Foundation laid for future hotel:
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http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc56/lilj4425/018-1.jpg

O'Charleys, Fleming's Steakhouse, FedEx/Kinkos, Alltel, Ruth's Chris, or Raleigh-NC's super duper almost orgasmic five star restaurant development thing:
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc56/lilj4425/003-3.jpg

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc56/lilj4425/004-5.jpg

Ahhh...another apartment complex. This one will have around 15 buildings when complete:
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Village at Pelham hospital:
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Griffin Park:
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Cascades at Verdae:
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Thanks for the updates, G-Man. Verdae, Griffin Park, and the Village at Pelham are all looking good. You sure covered some ground on that photo tour. Thanks!

BTW, where's that apartment complex? Simpsonville? Greer?

^^Simpsonville. James Davis is leaving. :cry: :cry:

I'm a FBI agent. YES. :master: :cheer: :horse:


G-Man(short for Government Man) is slang for a Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) agent. The word "Government" stands for the United States Federal Government, as opposed to state or local government police agencies.

In FBI mythology, the nickname is held to have originated during the arrest of gangster George "Machine Gun" Kelly by agents of the Division of Investigation (DOI), a forerunner of the FBI, in September 1933. Finding himself unarmed, Kelly supposedly shouted "Don't shoot, G-Men! Don't shoot, G-Men!"[1] This event is dramatized in the 1959 film, The FBI Story, where its somewhat implausible quality is in no way diminished.

The term "G-Man" was also used at least as far back as 1916 in Ireland as a reference to the detectives of the Dublin Metropolitan Police force's "G" Division, whose job it was to collect information on the various revolutionaries within the city.[2]


Look at what g-man found: http://www.lookwhatgmanfound.com/

I'm a FBI agent. YES. :master: :cheer: :horse:


G-Man(short for Government Man) is slang for a Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) agent. The word "Government" stands for the United States Federal Government, as opposed to state or local government police agencies.

In FBI mythology, the nickname is held to have originated during the arrest of gangster George "Machine Gun" Kelly by agents of the Division of Investigation (DOI), a forerunner of the FBI, in September 1933. Finding himself unarmed, Kelly supposedly shouted "Don't shoot, G-Men! Don't shoot, G-Men!"[1] This event is dramatized in the 1959 film, The FBI Story, where its somewhat implausible quality is in no way diminished.

The term "G-Man" was also used at least as far back as 1916 in Ireland as a reference to the detectives of the Dublin Metropolitan Police force's "G" Division, whose job it was to collect information on the various revolutionaries within the city.[2]


Look at what g-man found: http://www.lookwhatgmanfound.com/

Nice picture!

http://www.lookwhatgmanfound.com/wp-content/themes/paul/images/gman2on.jpg

:lol:

^^That's not me. :rant: Must be Raleigh-NC. :lol:

^^That's not me. :rant: Must be Raleigh-NC. :lol:

I know, I was just kidding.

^^It's Raleigh-NC? :eek:

Are you kidding me? This is me, with my dad:

http://daddys.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/kerry-king-jim-marshall.jpg

And one with an old girlfriend ;)

http://www.supertouchblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/imsbg_3020.jpg

Oops!!! I forgot to say thanks for the update photos!!!

^^:rock: :nocrook: Led Zeppelin, is that you? :lol:

James Davis for Clemson? dam, that will suck.

^^Yes. :cry: He's going to the NFL according to WYFF.

^^Yes. :cry: He's going to the NFL according to WYFF.

We will miss James, but we'll be fine. We still have Spiller, plus we have two stud running backs coming in this fall from the high school ranks.

I'm receiving word that McChesney has pulled the plug on the Point project. Can't confirm whether this is true or not.

^^:rock: :nocrook: Led Zeppelin, is that you? :lol:
Soft music is one way to get into the hard stuff :poke: Yes, Led Zeppelin were good, but I will stick with Black Sabbath, Motorhead, King Diamond/Merciful Fate, Slayer, Venom, etc. :)

I'm receiving word that McChesney has pulled the plug on the Point project. Can't confirm whether this is true or not.

If so, that really sucks. The only way that would be a good thing is if they have found a better site somewhere else (e.g., County Square).

Soft music is one way to get into the hard stuff :poke: Yes, Led Zeppelin were good, but I will stick with Black Sabbath, Motorhead, King Diamond/Merciful Fate, Slayer, Venom, etc. :)

I like crazy train. :D I also like this one too: http://youtube.com/watch?v=KZimumOkA1s

edit: double post.

If so, that really sucks. The only way that would be a good thing is if they have found a better site somewhere else (e.g., County Square).

I told you our economy sucks. :(

The Point project is officially DEAD according to an email I just received from McChesney Investment Advisors. :cry: Expect a news story soon. How many proposals have we now seen for this site that have died? It's over five. Reminds me of the gateway site downtown.

We will miss James, but we'll be fine. We still have Spiller, plus we have two stud running backs coming in this fall from the high school ranks.Andre Ellington is expected to be very similar to C.J. Spiller, with every bit as much speed. Daquan Bowers was just ranked as the #1 player in the nation. (read more (http://www.thetigernet.com/view/story.do?id=7041)) He will make an immediate impact. :)

Ellington video (http://youtube.com/watch?v=yB-UVJV51fg)

Bowers video (http://youtube.com/watch?v=yvK14FiAS8U&feature=related)

Davis was not smart to have left early. His stock would have been much higher after his senior season.

Andre Ellington is expected to be very similar to C.J. Spiller, with every bit as much speed. Daquan Bowers was just rated as the #1 defensive recruit in the nation by one organization. He will make an immediate impact. :)

Ellington video (http://youtube.com/watch?v=yB-UVJV51fg)

Bowers video (http://youtube.com/watch?v=yvK14FiAS8U&feature=related)

Davis was not smart to have left early. His stock would have been much higher after his senior season.

Bowers was chosen by ESPN as the #1 high school player in the country, regardless of position! :) He is a beast, for sure. It's incredible that a guy who is that tall and weighs 260 pounds was not only an outstanding defensive end, but also a quality running back. He supposedly has 4.4. speed in the 40. The guy even returned kicks!

We also have the #4 quarterback recruit in the country, Kyle Parker. Both he and Bowers started classes at Clemson this week.

Does anybody actually care about the Point dying or only Clemson football players? :rant:

The Point project is officially DEAD according to an email I just received from McChesney Investment Advisors. :cry: Expect a news story soon. How many proposals have we now seen for this site that have died? It's over five. Reminds me of the gateway site downtown.

Cue the meltdown. :lol:

^^So that's why global warming is happening. :fiddle:

Does anybody actually care about the Point dying or only Clemson football players? :rant:Shut up g-man. We don't need any more childish whining around here.:bash::ohno::nuts::uh::jk::hug:

^^I am not a child. I just act like one. :D

I FOUND IT: http://www.maniacworld.com/squirrel-vs-penguin.htm :carrot: Let's what you got now Tux. Squirrel is here.

^^I am not a child. I just act like one. :D

Classic! :lol:

^^You like my squirrel? :lol:

The Point project is officially DEAD according to an email I just received from McChesney Investment Advisors. :cry: Expect a news story soon. How many proposals have we now seen for this site that have died? It's over five. Reminds me of the gateway site downtown.


I am really bummed about this one! I knew when the sale did not go through that this would happen. Maybe that is what makes it so frustrating, it was going to happen if the land deal had worked out. I garantee you the person just wanted waaay too much money for the land. This project could really have taken Gville to the next level, singlehandedly. This just seems like a huge loss to me :ohno::cry:. Remember the video they put out, and the scope of it? This is truly "the big one that got away"! :ohno::badnews:

^^Don't remind me of the video. I don't want to remember it. :fiddle: :cry: :(

McChesney Investment Advisors could a learn a thing or two from Menin Development. :yes:

I'm bummed about this too. There's definitely plenty of available land out there though. Millennium Campus seems appropriate, too. Maybe they're just playing hard to get, and the owner will come begging for the sale.

The proposed bridge design for Salters Road over I-85 can be found here: http://greenvilleonline.com/news/specialreport/verdaedev/media/master_plan/index.htm

I'm bummed about this too. There's definitely plenty of available land out there though. Millennium Campus seems appropriate, too. Maybe they're just playing hard to get, and the owner will come begging for the sale.

They want I-85 frontage for visibility reasons. That's why they will not build in Millennium Campus.

I'm bummed about this too. There's definitely plenty of available land out there though. Millennium Campus seems appropriate, too. Maybe they're just playing hard to get, and the owner will come begging for the sale.

I'm bummed about the Point also. But, look on the bright side, we can look forward to the POM rising in downtown. This is something we can look forward to for a long time as I'm sure they will get going in the next 20 years!!:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::ohno:

^^I thought it was 200 years. I'm confused. :cry: :lol: I've said it once, i'll say it again. Our economy sucks. :bash:

^^I thought it was 200 years. I'm confused. :cry: :lol: I've said it once, i'll say it again. Our economy sucks. :bash:

Hey, 200 years is only twice as long as John McCain wants to continue the war in Iraq. :nuts:

^^Oh, don't get me started on the war in Iraq. :lol: I can get heated about it.

^^So that's why global warming is happening. :fiddle:
Because you farted too much. Don't worry though, the global freezing era is coming right after this, so leave something for the squirrels :lol:

BTW, I loved the video :rofl:

The Point project is officially DEAD according to an email I just received from McChesney Investment Advisors. :cry: Expect a news story soon. How many proposals have we now seen for this site that have died? It's over five. Reminds me of the gateway site downtown.
Hey g-man, can you post the e-mail you received? I (along with several others) have heard the project is not dead. The "land deal" did expire this week officially, however I've heard McChesney has not canceled the project and they are looking at options.

Hey g-man, can you post the e-mail you received? I (along with several others) have heard the project is not dead. The "land deal" did expire this week officially, however I've heard McChesney has not canceled the project and they are looking at options.

Other options, as in another site in Greenville?

Cough*"County Square"*Cough. :)

Hey g-man, can you post the e-mail you received? I (along with several others) have heard the project is not dead. The "land deal" did expire this week officially, however I've heard McChesney has not canceled the project and they are looking at options.

I sent George McChesney who is the CEO/President of McChesney Investment Advisors an email saying this: "I've been hearing from a few sources that the Point project is officially dead. Is that true?" His response was this: "Yes." HOWEVER, Scott Drake who is the director of communications with McChesney Investment Advisors told me just earlier this week that it's not dead and the project is still on the table. Unfortunately, i'm going to have to go with the CEO over the director of communications seeing how he would know more.

Because you farted too much. Don't worry though, the global freezing era is coming right after this, so leave something for the squirrels :lol:

BTW, I loved the video :rofl:

It's all the cows fault. :lol:

I sent George McChesney who is the CEO/President of McChesney Investment Advisors an email saying this: "I've been hearing from a few sources that the Point project is officially dead. Is that true?" His response was this: "Yes." HOWEVER, Scott Drake who is the director of communications with McChesney Investment Advisors told me just earlier this week that it's not dead and the project is still on the table. Unfortunately, i'm going to have to go with the CEO over the director of communications seeing how he would know more.

I'm not doubting you g-man, but please post the e-mail. Seems strange a CEO would just answer "Yes", with nothing else.

Rumblings around have this still alive and looking at other options.
Greenville, yes they are looking at options in Greenville.

^^Ok. Here is the exact copy of it. Email him yourself if you don't believe me. Maybe he meant the project is dead on that site but not dead all together. :dunno:



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Why is this spam/nonspam?Jacob Sharp to gmcchesney
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I'm hearing from a few reliable sources that you guys have pulled the plug on the project. :( Is that true?

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Yes





From: Jacob Sharp [mailto:sharp222us@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 3:03 PM
To: George McChesney
Subject: The Point dead?








Here is the one from Scott Drake too:


Hey Scott. Anything new regarding the Point development? -Jacob
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Guess not. :(- Show quoted text -



On Jan 4, 2008 4:23 PM, Jacob Sharp <sharp222us@gmail.com> wrote:

Hey Scott. Anything new regarding the Point development? -Jacob


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Not from our position yet…..the project is still in our active pipeline but as of today we have not reestablished the property under contract.

Scott S. Drake
Director of Communications
McChesney Investment Advisors, LLC
400 Colony Square, Suite 1550
1201 Peachtree St., NE
Atlanta, GA 30361
www.mcchesneyinvestmentadvisors.com

O 404.869.8800 x 5
C 404.932.7652




From: Jacob Sharp [mailto:sharp222us@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 8:55 PM
To: sdrake@mcchesneyadvisors.com
Subject: Re: The Point

The idea of McChesney looking elsewhere is interesting. Do you guys think that they see it as essential to be away from downtown, or would they be interested in being closer in if the location at The Point doesn't workout?

I have already mentioned how awesome the County Square location would be, in terms of visibility, views of downtown from there, etc. But perhaps they need to create a "second downtown" for their concept to work. Until we learn more, I think it would be fun to play around with locations where they could build their urban cluster, and I would like everyone's input on this. To get the discussion started:

What about Pleasantburg Drive next to the Carolina First Center? Discuss. :)

^^I AM CONFUSED. That's all I have to say. :lol: :cry:

Just got another email from Scott Drake. Just read the bolded parts:


The contract officially expired earlier this week and you are looking at other options currently. Is that correct?
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On Jan 9, 2008 1:54 PM, Jacob Sharp <sharp222us@gmail.com> wrote:

At least you haven't given up on it yet. It would of broken ground by now too if it wasn't for all of this red tape. :(



On Jan 9, 2008 8:53 AM, Scott Drake <sdrake@priceandpartners.com> wrote:

Not from our position yet…..the project is still in our active pipeline but as of today we have not reestablished the property under contract.

Scott S. Drake
Director of Communications
McChesney Investment Advisors, LLC
400 Colony Square, Suite 1550
1201 Peachtree St., NE
Atlanta , GA 30361
www.mcchesneyinvestmentadvisors.com

O 404.869.8800 x 5
C 404.932.7652




From: Jacob Sharp [mailto: sharp222us@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 8:55 PM
To: sdrake@mcchesneyadvisors.com
Subject: Re: The Point

Guess not. :(
On Jan 4, 2008 4:23 PM, Jacob Sharp <sharp222us@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey Scott. Anything new regarding the Point development? -Jacob





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No. The contracts to purchase 75 acres expired separately……back in fall of 2007. We still have our concept and may make another run at securing the land or we may partner with another group if they were to secure the land…..that is an unknown for now.

Scott S. Drake
Director of Communications
McChesney Investment Advisors, LLC
400 Colony Square, Suite 1550
1201 Peachtree St., NE
Atlanta, GA 30361
www.mcchesneyinvestmentadvisors.com

O 404.869.8800 x 5
C 404.932.7652

Would somebody just give me the right info. :gaah: :wallbash: I want to punch somebody so badly right now. :lol:

:llama: COUNTDOWN: 7 days!!!! http://www.motortrendautoshows.com/greenvl/index.html :llama:

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The Point is still on according to GreenbergFarrow who is designing the project.

Where's the whistling emotion: http://www.loopnet.com/xNet/Looplink/Profile/Profile.aspx?LL=true&LID=14827627&STID=cbre and http://www.loopnet.com/xNet/Looplink/Profile/Profile.aspx?LL=true&LID=14493861&STID=cbre

I wish somebody would steal a bulldozer and start knocking down the old factory on the Point site. Or maybe i'll get lucky and a tornado will touch down on it and destroy the whole thing. :gaah:

Interesting stuff about the Point. I hope their project is still on in some form or fashion at some site. While the Point site is would be GREAT visibility for sure. I also like the fact that it would be close to the proposed BRT line. Mass transit would be extremely important to a project this big located anywhere in the county, much less Woodruff Rd.

I like the idea that Greenville threw out about near the Palmetto Expo Center. Pleasantburg could use it, it'd be close to the BRT line to downtown. It'd be great due to its orientation being the North/South artery in the city and would therefore create easy access to the rest of the metro... Downside: visibility from a major interstate.

Fingers are crossed here for a deal to be worked out. :)

^^From the way it sounds now, there is still a very good chance the Point still could happen. They will either be able to rebuy both of the sites back and build the project or partner with another development company that is able to buy the site and build it then. I don't think there is enough room for something of this magnitude next to the Carolina First Center. I would rather have it be downtown or out on Woodruff Road.

Let's all keep our fingers crossed regarding the point. I just wish something would happen with the County Square property. What an awesome piece of land going to waist. A few mid to high rise buildings on that property would be the ultimate.

But the number one priority is still POM! What's the latest? Never mind I know!
:lol::bash::ohno::nuts:

What kind of CRAP is this???

http://www.greenvilleonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080111/NEWS01/80111056 :bash::bash::bash:

^^What kind of CRAP is this?? They don't even give you a description. How am I supposed to know who I am looking for? http://greenvilleonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080111/NEWS01/80111007 :bash: :bash: :bash:

What kind of CRAP is this???

http://www.greenvilleonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080111/NEWS01/80111056 :bash::bash::bash:

I just want to know what Sanford is trying to do! How much money will it cost us if we cannot fly anywhere? How much will it cost our airports? How many jobs will be affected? How many businesses will be affected? What is he thinking??? :bash:

^^What is he thinking? He's not thinking. :D

Let's all keep our fingers crossed regarding the point. I just wish something would happen with the County Square property. What an awesome piece of land going to waist. A few mid to high rise buildings on that property would be the ultimate.

But the number one priority is still POM! What's the latest? Never mind I know!
:lol::bash::ohno::nuts:

What's going on with the POM currently? Who knows. :ohno: I want to move to Raleigh. I hate this red tape shit. :bash:

First Raleigh was taking notes from Greenville. Now we're taking notes from them: http://www.gsatc.org/2008/01/11/presentation-greenville-mayor-knox-white/

:llama: IMPORTANT. If anybody still has the December issue of Greenville Magazine, can you please either scan or take a picture of the article regarding Greenville Transit Authority and post it on here. Thanks.

Let's all keep our fingers crossed regarding the point. I just wish something would happen with the County Square property. What an awesome piece of land going to waist. A few mid to high rise buildings on that property would be the ultimate.

"A few mid to high rise buildings" :lol: More like 20-30 buildings. That site is HUGE. Unless McChesney were to move the Point project there, I'd be afraid that some possible development would not utilize the land appropriately...

^^Do you have the December issue of Greenville Magazine? Project Skyline involves County Square. Rumor has it that Menin is involved somehow.

^^Do you have the December issue of Greenville Magazine? Project Skyline involves County Square. Rumor has it that Menin is involved somehow.

Not I.:ohno:

The old Bi-Lo on Roper Mountain Road will make way for a new church. I think it's going to be one like the Redemption Center on Haywood Road but not as large.

Somebody get the license plate number. I have just been violated. :cry:

New development coming to Easley across Highway 123 from Easley Town Center that will include office supply store, restaurants, possibly a bank or Starbuck's, and other things: http://www.croxtongray.com/listings/wp-content/uploads/easley-development.pdf Also, I received an email earlier today from The Shopping Center Group that construction won't begin on Easley Town Center for at least another 60-90 days. The city hasn't even approved the project yet.

A new development that will include a Bi-Lo grocery store and other retail shops will be coming to Easley, SC at 504 West Main Street. Go here: http://www.loopnet.com/South-Carolina/Easley/?LinkCode=18400 Second one up from the bottom.

APALADIN in the house. :banana: :righton:

:llama: :righton: :banana2: :rock:

Carmakers set sights on Upstate
South Carolina International auto show opens Friday at Carolina First Center

Published: Sunday, January 13, 2008 - 2:00 am

By Jenny Munro
BUSINESS WRITER
jmunro@greenvillenews.com

Hybrid cars, alternative-fuel vehicles, concept cars -- those and more will be on display at the South Carolina International Auto Show, set to begin its three-day run Friday at the Carolina First Center.

"It gives you a chance to dream," said Pat Watson, executive vice president of the South Carolina Automobile Dealers Association. "They get to smell and see new cars. People love going to see new cars."

Diana Derrick, show spokeswoman, said, "The cars are the stars. We're going to have a few concept vehicles. It's a great place. It's like one-stop shopping. We want to put it out there."

The show -- the only one of its type in South Carolina -- allows consumers to see cars and new gadgets, not only heated seats but also air-cooled seats, Watson said. They can see navigation systems and how they work.

"There will be no sales people there, but there will be people to demonstrate the cars," he said.

Visitors will be able to view new cars, concept cars and customized cars. They can kick the tires and open and shut the doors and hoods on most of them.

Admission is $8 for adults, $5 for senior citizens and children 7-12 and free for children 6 and younger. Also, discount coupons are available at participating new car dealers and online at http://www.SouthCarolinaAutoShow.com. The state Auto Dealers Association is giving attendees a free one-year subscription to Motor Trend magazine with purchase of box-office or online tickets.

"I've gone a couple of times," said Jay Hendricks, a Greenville resident who is planning to buy a new car this year. "I'll go see what is out there. It might give me some ideas. I'm leaning toward a hybrid or a flex-fuel car. But they cost more so I don't really know. Besides, it's fun to look at cars I know I'll never buy."

Derrick said she doesn't know how many cars will be displayed, but it should be similar to last year's total -- more than 300 vehicles.

"Things look great," Watson said, "with all the interest in the 'new' vehicles, the hybrids and alternative-fuel cars," he said.

Although the interest is there, he's not sure how a more expensive car will fare with the American public.

In the six months between July 2006 and March 2007, "citizens of South Carolina could buy hybrid vehicles and alternative fuel vehicles without a sales tax," he said. "Did people go crazy? No."

Looking at history, Watson said, "The only way all this will work is if gas prices stay high. It's all based on the buying power of you and me."

Concept cars, always a big hit, will include the Suzuki Zuk and the Chevrolet Camaro this year. Concept cars allow designers and manufactures to test out new ideas and technology on consumers. The Camaro, with a hood bulge and a vintage grill and hidden headlights, is reminiscent of the 1980s-era car. It is powered with a V-8 small block engine with 400 horsepower. The Zuk, designed for performance, features an all-wheel drive system and a metallic paint job.

This year's show will include new versions of the Ford F-250, the Buick Enclave, the Honda Accord, Cadillac CTS, Lincoln MKX, Chrysler Town & Country, Nissan Rogue, Saturn Vie, Honda Civic, Ford Escape, Nissan Alta, Lexus GS and Toyota Camry.

A specialty collection from Foreign Cars Italia will include Ferrari, Maserati and Aston Martin models. Also, Foothills Mustang Club will offer collections of Mustangs, and Carolina Corvettes will have on display a collection of Chevrolet Corvettes.

Other collections include street rods and muscle cars and customized vehicles with the latest aftermarket parts and accessories. Also, other displays will feature fuel-efficient vehicles from Chevrolet, Ford, GMC, Honda, Lexus, Mercury, Nissan, Saturn and Toyota, as well as a display on teen safety.

"We want to put some attention on teenage drivers," Watson said.

The Chevrolet Ride & Drive will feature a completely redesigned Chevy Malibu, a Silverado, a full-size Chevy Tahoe, a Chevy Avalanche, the Chevy HHR truck, the Chevrolet Impala and the Chevy Cobalt. The street-course ride and drive will be held Jan. 18-19 from 10 a.m. to 6 p.m. and Jan. 20 from 11 a.m. to 6 p.m. Registration will be located inside the GM/Chevrolet Display. The drive will begin and end in the parking lot just outside the entrance to Carolina First Center.

Drivers must be at least 21 years old and have a valid driver's license. Children may ride as passengers if seating is available.

Kids Day will be held Jan. 20, and children 12 and younger will be admitted free when accompanied by an adult. Family-friendly entertainment will include clowns, face painting and balloon animals.

College Two-Fer Day is Jan 18. College students with official college ID who purchase one adult admission can receive a second one free for another college student, also with official ID.

The South Carolina International Auto Show is produced by Motor Trend Auto Shows and is sponsored by the South Carolina Automobile Dealers Association and The Greenville News.

Discount coupons may be purchased at participating new car dealers and online at http://www.SouthCarolinaAutoShow.com

Are you ready for the next adventure:
http://www.thestate.com/local/story/283376.html and http://www.forbes.com/afxnewslimited/feeds/afx/2008/01/13/afx4524911.html

Volkswagen mulls US site in Georgia, S.Carolina

Sat Jan 12, 2008 10:30am EST-Reuters

FRANKFURT, Jan 12 (Reuters) - Volkswagen (VOWG.DE: Quote, Profile, Research) (VOWG.DE: Quote, Profile, Research) has narrowed the field among possible sites for a U.S. assembly plant to Georgia or South Carolina, German industry publication Automobilwoche reported on Saturday citing a company source.

Both Georgia with Savannah and South Carolina with Charleston possess a harbour, it reported, while the latter also has a strong supplier network helped in part by BMW (BMWG.DE: Quote, Profile, Research) which began assembling cars in the state several years ago.

The article is scheduled to appear in Automobilwoche on Monday. Volkswagen, which could not be reached for a comment, has said it expects to decide in the first half of 2008 whether it will build cars in the United States again.

(Reporting by Christiaan Hetzner, Editing by Peter Blackburn)

:rock: :righton: Looking at the show floor map, it looks like Ferrari along with Aston Martin and Maserati will be at the auto show this year: http://www.motortrendautoshows.com/greenvl/floorplan.html I'm italian so this works out for me. :D :drool: http://www.motortrendautoshows.com/greenvl/features.html

Where is everybody? :cry:

^Im here.

^^Finally a play in the Dallas-New York game without a penalty. :banana: :lol:

Not I.:ohno:

You're supposed to say yes. :rant:

The Greenville News does in fact read the Greenville section of Urbanplanet. Well, at least Rudolph Bell does. :D

Funny how BMW doesn't have vehicles at this event. :lol: 4 DAYS!!!! Are you ready? http://www.motortrendautoshows.com/greenvl/index.html :dj: :dance:

:dj: Somebody slap me silly and call me sally. It could SNOW Wednesday night-Thursday. YES. :banana2: :carrot: :tiasd:

In December of 2006, the average price of gas here was $1.88. In December of 2007, the average price of gas here was $2.88. In December of 2008, well...http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/15/transportation.safety.ap/index.html

Whoever posted on urbanplanet that VW is preferring Rocky Mount over Anderson should be beat down with a stick. :bash: Read this article that says South Carolina and Georgia instead: http://www.forbes.com/afxnewslimited/feeds/afx/2008/01/13/afx4524911.html

Saco Lowell redevelopment plan moves forward

Published: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 11:33 am

By Amy Clarke-Greenville News staff

Easley City Council decided Monday night to go it alone in the redevelopment of the Saco Lowell site.

The council unanimously approved a resolution to adopt a memorandum of understanding with developers.

"This MOU expresses the city’s intention to work with Cedarwood (Development) to provide a mechanism to finance a portion of the public improvements related to the development of the former Saco Lowell site," said city administrator Fox Simons.

With Pickens County Council and the school board having previously declined to participate in a tax increment financing district at the site, the City of Easley announced its plan to implement a city-only TIF and contribute an additional $1.7 million to the project.

Simons called the resolution a "serious statement of intention" to assist with redevelopment at Saco Lowell and said the process of finalizing the TIF and authorizing the financing will begin in the next month.

Developer David Scarnati said Easley residents could start seeing activity at the site by the spring and could expect a "full-service shopping center development" with some "familiar names."

"This is a big step forward in the successful redevelopment of Saco Lowell," he said.

Mayor Larry Bagwell, presiding over his first council meeting since his election in November, said, "It’s going to carry Easley another step forward."

Come on, come on...listen to the money talk. :rock:

Developers keep their eyes on Target

By Trevor Anderson-Spartanburg Herald Journal

Published: Monday, January 14, 2008

What do the nation's fifth-largest retailer and the east side's biggest mixed-use commercial development have in common?

Nothing, yet.

But as Easton MarketCenter enters its critical planning phase, Minnesota-based Target Corp.'s name keeps popping up as a big-box tenant of interest for the development.

“I think it's a name that's been mentioned a lot (in relation to Easton MarketCenter),” said Foster Chapman, president and CEO of Spartanburg-based Johnson Development Associates, the company that will build about 200 apartments on the former Lan-Yair Country Club site. “I think it would be a good thing for our tenants. It would pool and establish some good business and put a draw on the east side.”

City officials have said Easton MarketCenter is expected to bring in up to $100 million in investment and should generate high hospitality-tax revenues for other projects.

The project's developers, Centennial American Properties LLC of Greenville and Atlanta-based Cousins Properties Inc. plan to build more than 500,000 square-feet of commercial space and up to 150 single-family homes on the property.

Site plans for the project include other amenities such as water features, bicycle and walking paths, sidewalks and green spaces, as well as layouts for high-end commercial retail buildings.

Target expresses interest

While representatives from Centennial and Cousins have declined to comment on whether they are courting Target or any other national retailers, Target spokeswoman Delia McLinden said her company is exploring the possibility of building a second store in Spartanburg (Target already has a store on Warren H. Abernathy Highway.)

“We are very interested in Spartanburg, and we're analyzing potential opportunities for another store,” McLinden said.

McLinden said her company begins building new stores exclusively in March, July and October.

Josh Gillespie, senior planner for the city's Planning Department, said Centennial and Cousins' timeline has construction on the development beginning in either March or April.

“They have told us that in three to four months they would like to begin moving ground,” Gillespie said. “They haven't mentioned any names and they still have to meet some zoning requirements, have their final site plan reviewed and then they can move forward.”

Target already has a relationship with Cousins.

Cousins owns 17 lifestyle centers in seven states that are finished or under development.

Four of those upscale commercial properties are anchored by a Target.

Popular national retailers and restaurants such as Books-A-Million, Belk, Old Navy, PetSmart, Dick's Sporting Goods, Old Navy, TGI Friday's, Circuit City, Marshalls, Linens 'n Things, Regal Cinemas, Coldwater Creek and Bed Bath & Beyond also call Cousins properties home.

“They're very good at what they do,” said Brody Glenn, president of Centennial American Properties. “That's why we're working with them to make this project great for Spartanburg.

But we aren't ready to discuss anything at this time regarding tenants.”

:dj: Somebody slap me silly and call me sally. It could SNOW Wednesday night-Thursday. YES. :banana2: :carrot: :tiasd:

The forcast has now changed and NOAA is now reporting mostly ice:ohno::bash:. Sigh... Man I remember those pretty snows we used to get... it would sure be nice...

^^Damn global warming. Quit farting damnit. :bash: :lol:

The Greenville News website says a couple inches of snow. :dunno: Who's right?

^^Only God knows that.

http://www.erh.noaa.gov/gsp/briefing/winter_wx.php this sounds like they expect mostly ice for our area, though a "quick" inch or tow may be possible.

^^Damn global warming. Quit farting damnit. :bash: :lol:That's the garbage the mainstream media and politicians want everyone to believe, but in reality many prominent scientists firmly believe based on strong evidence that global warming is being caused by activity on the sun rather than something created by humans. Too bad they are being ignored and censored. That's what political power can do to good people. Check this out (http://www.greatglobalwarmingswindle.com/). ;)

I have also heard that the earth might just be going through its normal cycle. I remember scientist did a sample on an ice core test that also showed a spike in carbon dioxide before a previous warming had happened 1000's of years ago. The same thing is happening now also. I watched a show on discovery about it. The earths cycle is so precise that even the smallest change can have large effects.

^^That is indeed true. It is going through a normal cycle, BUT the earth is warming faster than it should be. A 2-mile-long (3.2-kilometer-long) ice core laboriously drilled out of an Antarctic ice sheet in 1999 showed that levels of heat-trapping greenhouse gases are higher now than at any time in the past 420,000 years. I took a class on meterology in school so I should know this. It's sad how the oil junkies still try to hide the truth and ignore millions of scientists.
TRUTH: http://www.climateark.org/articles/1999/icecore2.htm

The media has definitely done a "good" job misinforming us. Of course, we need to remember that good news is never big news, and not be surprised by the media's coverage. Many people like to be fed with doom and gloom, which explains why g-man's squirrel is so freaking fat. I have heard about the cycle the weather is going through and that we are getting closer to the reverse effect. That is, cooler temperatures. Unfortunately, there is some truth to the increasing pollution by the larger industrial nations, and we must address this, but whether that is enough to cause global warming I am not in position to say... Neither is Al Gore. In the last few years we had record lows in many areas, too.

On the good side, we have the weather to thank for our projects moving faster to completion than anticipated :)

^^My squirrel is not fat. That's muscle. :D Al Gore is too liberal and George W. Bush is too conservative. They both suck in my book. Go Ron Paul. :yes:

You are liberal, too... And so is your fat squirrel that causes the global warming. Speaking of which, have you seen those younger hippy-wannabe's that drive those beaten up cars? They do more harm to the environment than 10 SUVs combined :bash:

^^I have a radio in my car. :D Tux is going to go extinct if we don't do something. I say we go to Antarctica, grab them all up, and stick them in the zoos. :yes:

Al Gore is too liberal and George W. Bush is too conservative. They both suck in my book. Go Ron Paul. :yes:

:applause::okay:

^^Did you hear about the blimp his campaign is going to be flying over the upstate for the next couple of days? Check http://www.goupstate.com for more. :okay:

I wonder how freezing rain affects blimps? :lol:

^^Did you hear about the blimp his campaign is going to be flying over the upstate for the next couple of days? Check http://www.goupstate.com for more. :okay:

Great article about the Ron Paul blimp! I hope the weather won't prevent it from flying the next few days. I love the way supporters got together to launch it, with zero involvement from the official campaign. Now that's grassroots marketing! :)

The funny thing is that the media is largely ignoring his campaign. Sadly, most people don't know that Ron Paul has a lot more total votes thus far than Giuliani or Thompson - putting him securely in fourth place among Republican candidates. And if the media would stop purposely trying to hurt his campaign (Faux News especially) then he would surely be getting more votes. It is sad that the media can't accurately and fairly report the news, rather than pushing their agenda all the time. They are obviously threatened by his ideas and his devoted following.

The good thing is that the campaign has tons of money, and they have been saving it until after SC to prepare for Super Tuesday on February 5. Get ready for Ron Paul to make some noise on the campaign trail, while McCain, Huckabee, Thompson, etc. struggle with money.

The Greenville News website says a couple inches of snow. :dunno: Who's right?

Interesting changes. NOAA website now has greater GSP in a Winter Storm Warning, with accumulations of 3-5 inches. HOWEVER, NOAA radio has a totally different forcast, with "a possible qucik inch in the GSP area before transition." :dunno:

:lol:Sounds like NOAA can't even make up their minds.l


NOAA radio has just updated thier broadcast, reports 2-4 inches for the greater metro area. Predicted low is only 32 though, that is awful close...

Weather is dynamic, y'all. That's just how it rolls.

^^3-5 inches of snow now. :eek:

Tonight: Periods of rain and snow between 10pm and 1am, then periods of snow and sleet after 1am. Low around 31. Calm wind becoming northeast between 15 and 18 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. Total nighttime snow and sleet accumulation of 3 to 5 inches possible.

http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?site=GSP&llon=-82.732083&rlon=-81.947083&tlat=35.165417&blat=34.380417&smap=1&mp=0&map.x=106&map.y=96

Tonight: Periods of rain and snow between 10pm and 1am, then periods of snow and sleet after 1am. Low around 31. Calm wind becoming northeast between 15 and 18 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. Total nighttime snow and sleet accumulation of 3 to 5 inches possible.

http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?site=GSP&llon=-82.732083&rlon=-81.947083&tlat=35.165417&blat=34.380417&smap=1&mp=0&map.x=106&map.y=96

The snow has started at my house. :cheers:

Hey G-Man, Can you post the article in this mornings paper regarding the completion of the sale of the Gateway property. Sounds interesting with multiple towers "at least 20 stories".

^^Look in the downtown development news thread for article and information regarding Peacock Hotel and Spa/Gateway site.

4 inches of snow fell at my place in Powdersville. I measured with a ruler around midnight last night. I'll post pictures of the snow in a few hours.

4 inches of snow fell at my place in Powdersville. I measured with a ruler around midnight last night. I'll post pictures of the snow in a few hours.

Plus, you took a meteorology class so you should know. ;)

Plus, you took a meteorology class so you should know. ;)

:rofl:

Plus, you took a meteorology class so you should know. ;)

Your cynicism is quite amusing, but for some reason i'm not laughing. :ohno:

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Your cynicism is quite amusing, but for some reason i'm not laughing. :ohno:

I wasn't being cynical. Just stating the facts! :)

^^What was the wink for then? :dunno: Also, why would distortedlogic start laughing and gsupstate start whistling over that? I like weather. There's nothing wrong with that.

:bash: :fiddle: I told you our economy sucks: http://www.goupstate.com/article/20080117/NEWS/518781818/1051/NEWS01 Also, it was announced yesterday that the Alice textile plant in Easley will close eliminating around 200 jobs. We need VW badly, but probably have a slim to no chance of getting it. :yes:

:nocrook: :righton: Credit to Greenville News for pics. Some of the many high-end cars you will see at the South Carolina International Auto Show which starts tomorrow:

Ferrari F430-
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Jeep Hurricane concept with Ferrari again-
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Lotus-
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:applause: One for the money, two for the show, clap your hands if you've got a bank roll:
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Looks like it could snow again Saturday. Timing and the direction of the low pressure system is key. Temps will be cold enough at night for snow, but might be a little too warm during the day for any accumulation. Most of the precip is currently scheduled to arrive around noon, but if that gets pushed up 6 hours then we could see a repeat of yesterday:
http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?site=GSP&llon=-82.732083&rlon=-81.947083&tlat=35.165417&blat=34.380417&smap=1&mp=0&map.x=108&map.y=99&FcstType=graphical

-To distortedlogic, Greenville, and Gsupstate. Please stop bashing/making fun of me for liking weather. It's not funny to me one bit and it shows lack of class. Thanks.

:rofl:

Is that funny? I'm not laughing. :down:

Your cynicism is quite amusing, but for some reason i'm not laughing. :ohno:Dude, just relax. A few of my friends are active professional Meteorologists. You having taken a class in high school isn't that impressive to me. One other thing... You bash others all the time without hesitation, so let someone else share in the fun at your expense once in awhile. ;)

^^Sort of like how you guys should relax about all of the failed highrises downtown. Relax guys. Who cares if they get built or not. ;)

Goodbye Volkswagen. :wave: Have fun with your new plant in Rocky Mount, NC. This state is too stupid to know what tax incentives mean.

Nothing has failed which has never been started. Nothing started is nothing accomplished. ~My proverb for the day :)

Consider this... How many buildings do you see being torn down and how many do you see going up? Never lose heart when the latter outweighs the former. There are so many plans in place, so many that have been and are being developed that it should not be a serious concern whether now is the time for highrises to be built or not - unless you are considering investing in one.

^^I guess it will help the suppliers in the area, but that's about it. I'd give it a 75% of going to Rocky Mount. Large site, under contract by a bunch of Germans, to close on January 28th all sound like VW automotive plant to me.

Nothing has failed which has never been started. Nothing started is nothing accomplished. ~My proverb for the day :)

Consider this... How many buildings do you see being torn down and how many do you see going up? Never lose heart when the latter outweighs the former. There are so many plans in place, so many that have been and are being developed that it should not be a serious concern whether now is the time for highrises to be built or not - unless you are considering investing in one.

You're right. I'm wrong. :yes:

Perhaps you forgot whom you are responding to? I remember trying to calm you down more than once regarding the out-of-control excitement over plans for new highrises. You seem to be slipping back into another multipersonality scheme again. You're too crazy/silly... :lol:

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^^Sort of like how you guys should relax about all of the failed highrises downtown. Relax guys. Who cares if they get built or not. ;)
You are a hypocrite :bash: :rofl: We both know how much you care about skyscrapers being built... Say that you don't care AND mean it, and if I detect honesty in you I will come to Greenville and take away all the high-rises you have because we can use a few more in my city :lol:

As for the VW plant, I doubt it will end up in NC. I wish it did come to Rocky Mount - it would provide much needed jobs to the Eastern part of the state - but North Carolina has a history of losing automotive-related plants to other states (i.e. BMW, Mercedes)... I wonder who provided more incentives to BMW ;) Come on, g-man, can't you guess the state?

^^Fine. You win. I do love highrises and skylines. I want to be able to say "Now what Columbia? We have a bigger skyline than you do suckers." I want big national retailers, so I can say "Our city is bigger and better than yours because we have more high-end national retailers." I like contacting developers and taking update pics to find out and show what's going on with projects currently. I just don't like it when people want me to do their dirty work for them. G-man, can you email Triangle Contruction and find out when the Pinnacle on Main will start construction? G-man, can you take some pics of Pendleton West? No and no. You can do it yourself. You have a car and an email address. You can have the green monster at the intersection of Augusta Road and Main Street Raleigh-NC. ;) South Carolina was the state but we still won't get it. The site in Rocky Mount is more convenient for them. You think it would provide much needed jobs there? Look here. We're the ones losing tons and tons of jobs every year due to textile plants closing. It was announced yesterday that a plant in Spartanburg is going to close in March eliminating 525 jobs. Luckily, most if not all of those will be transferred to Atlanta.

Save the penguins. Protect Raleigh-NC. :nocrook:

However, I still believe they should put a Waffle House somewhere downtown. :lol:

-To distortedlogic, Greenville, and Gsupstate. Please stop bashing/making fun of me for liking weather. It's not funny to me one bit and it shows lack of class. Thanks.

C'mon gman, we weren't bashing you. We were just joking a little because that was a statement you have repeated several times. Besides, I took an Astronomy class in college, but that doesn't make me an astronomer. :okay:

As for liking weather, I am the biggest weather junkie I have ever met! My favorite things to watch on TV are TWC and Golf, so I know a little about being teased:)

^^:hug: I don't like being teased. :yes:

I am getting so hot, I wanna take my clothes off.

^^:hug: I don't like being teased. :yes:

Come on, it's not like we called you mean names like Bob Ellis or something. :lol:

^^Bob the no builder. :baaa:

I am getting so hot, I wanna take my clothes off.
Better keep them on... We have seen enough nightmares :rofl:

Glad to see that you finally revealed your true intentions. You want to hog it all from cities like Columbia, Raleigh and Charlotte... Anyway, I am still wishing you guys the best. I will definitely join you in celebrating a 30+ story tower. Make no mistake, I will be very happy for you.

^^It would look better than if your penguin shaved its fur off. :lol:

^^It would look better than if your penguin shaved its fur off. :lol:

It's not a Brazilian penguin!

^^:lol: Why not? :cry:

...You think it would provide much needed jobs there? Look here. We're the ones losing tons and tons of jobs every year due to textile plants closing. It was announced yesterday that a plant in Spartanburg is going to close in March eliminating 525 jobs. Luckily, most if not all of those will be transferred to Atlanta.??? Look here... We are gaining many more jobs each year than losing them, so where on earth do you get the idea that life sucks in the Upstate? You're sure trippin' over that plant closing in Spartanburg aren't you? Have you already forgotten about EchoStar and Adidas? Those new jobs alone far outweigh the losses in that county, plus there are many other new jobs within other companies. :bash::hahaha:

^^Ok Skyliner. Look at this then for proof: http://greenvilleonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080118/NEWS01/80118008/1003/BUSINESS If we're gaining more jobs than we're losing then why is the unemployment rate going up?

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St. Francis plans $110 million complex on Laurens Road
$110 million facility will focus on delivering health care through digital technology

Published: Friday, January 18, 2008 - 7:42 pm

By Rudolph Bell-Greenville News

Bon Secours St. Francis Health System hopes to break ground next year on a $110 million to $120 million complex along Laurens Road that will specialize on delivering healthcare through new digital technology, its chief executive said today.

CEO Valinda Rutledge declined to provide details about what would be St. Francis’ third location in Greenville.

"I’d like to wait until we’re ready to make the official announcement, but we’re anticipating about $110 million to $120 million worth of investment on that land," Rutledge said. She referred to 60 acres at the Millennium Campus office park that St. Francis bought last year for $9 million.

She made the remarks at the International Center for Automotive Research -- the Clemson University research park adjacent to the Millennium Campus -- during a ceremony to announce a $500,000 sponsorship of a fitness center at ICAR.

Asked about the new complex that St. Francis planned not far away, Rutledge said, "Right now we’re in the middle of planning. We know it’s going to be very innovative. It’s going to be very creative. We want it to be a combination of health and wellness. We also want it to have a very green concept. We feel that’s a very important part of who we are and who CU-ICAR is. So we’re having consultants around the country help us and taking a look at very innovative models."

Rutledge said St. Francis plans to ask the state government in late spring for a certificate of need to build the complex. If the certificate is granted, St. Francis could break ground six months later, she said.

"Hopefully, it’ll be next year at this time," she said. "We’ll be breaking ground."

A new hospital planned at the campus would be built to archive medical records electronically, "and it will allow us to actually go outside in the community and allow people to interact with us through electronics," Rutledge said. "We’ve brought in lots of experts around the country and we’re talking to people in California and New York to look at nontraditional ways at getting health information passed back and forth."

Mary Hassett, a senior vice president with St. Francis, said the planned complex should have more than one building and more than one phase.

St. Francis named the fitness center at ICAR the Vrum! Fitness Center in keeping with the research park’s automotive motif. In exchange for the $500,000, St. Francis also secured the right to offer health education information and wellness and screening programs at the fitness center exclusively and to provide trainers, Rutledge said.

The Timken Co., which operates a technology center at ICAR, provided much of the equipment for the fitness center.

The sponsorship is the second naming rights deal at ICAR.

In September, a foundation affiliated with The South Financial Group, the Greenville-based bank holding company, announced that it had paid $1.5 million to name an exhibit and meeting hall at ICAR the Carolina First Gallery after one of its bank brands.

Bob Geolas, ICAR’s executive director, said companies have the opportunity to lend their names to other aspects of the research campus, such as plaza spaces, outdoor areas and spots within a new graduate education center.

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The closer the snow gets to us, the worse the Weather Channel makes it sound. Jim Cantore (spelling?) is officially going nuckin' futs. :lol: :nuts: I wouldn't be suprised if the snow advisory gets changed to a heavy snow warning later tonight due to the thunderstorms starting to develop in Texas, which will move northeast towards this area. With the southerly flow out of the Gulf of Mexico, I wouldn't expect them to weaken much. Also, at 4pm the NWS said Montgomery, AL was going to only get around an inch of snow, but has just upgraded them to a heavy snow warning with 3-6 inches of wet snow expected.

^^:lol:
I love Jim Cantore, he is so dramatic.

I would be very surprised if there aren't some changes between now and 6am. I don't think I have ever seen a winter system around here that didn't have at least one pretty big change within the last 12 hours before onset. Overall, TWC seems to be talking this one up a littel more than NOAA, but the forcasted track and the totals throw me a little. I too would think the totals may be a little higher, but guess we'll have towait and see. I have been waiting for NOAA to put out their 9:00 statement, but nothing yet.

^^He needs to wax that bald head of his. :lol: Rare to see two winter storms less than two days apart here. :yes: I remember WYFF John Cessarich was saying a dusting-one inch 12 hours before the last one hit then changed it to 2-4 inches right before it started. I wouldn't be suprised if that happens again in this situation.

Also, Michael Smith from Fox Carolina is the ONLY person i've heard so far say that it will be rain then snow then ending as rain. Everybody else is saying it will start as a rain-snow mix then going to all snow. Ignore Fox Carolina. :yes:

Actually I think NOAAs last forecast note (when you click on the map) said "mixing with rain in the pm" (before ending). It sounds like they are backing off of it a little recently. Sounds like it may be more rain than they were saying. Who knows :nuts:

I do know it is 41 in Gville, but it is already 35 at my house. :banana:

Looks like it will be rain-snow mix at 7am going to all snow by noon through at least 7pm tomorrow according to the map WYFF just showed. The precip. is really starting to feel in throughout Alabama, Mississippi, etc. too. I expect 2-4 inches of wet snow just like the last system. With a low of 21 Saturday night, I expect it to stick around a little longer this time especially on the roads. It's 39 at my house.

-How about Clemson's Jamis Davis returning distortedlogic? ;) I hear you're a USC fan. :puke:

So that is about 5 hours of non accumulation which would explain the lower snow totals. :cry: That could actually be several inches missing out on.
Like I said though, I still expect changes by 6am.

^^How do you like those rides from the Auto Show? :D I want that Camaro. :drool: You better go to it or i'll steal Tux from Raleigh-NC. :lol:

Hey Gman, i noticed the NWS discussions for both Huntsville and Atlanta (which are more current than GSP) are talking about the low going further south which will inhibit precip. in the North. They even thought about cancelling the snow advisory for Huntsville :ohno:

^^There was never a snow advisory for Huntsville or Atlanta so it can't be cancelled.

Looks like the heavy precipitation in southern Alabama is heading directly toward the upstate from looking at the map in motion. Not sure how strong it will be though when it gets here. The Weather Channel is now reporting that the Atlanta area could get more snow than originally thought. 3-6 inches instead of 1-3 to be exact.

^^There was never a snow advisory for Huntsville or Atlanta so it can't be cancelled.

That is what the advisory stmt i read said for Huntsville. Atl is in winter storm warning. They usually say we get at least what Atl gets, so maybe we'll get in the 3-6?

NWS has ATL 1-2

^^Atlanta is under a watch not a warning currently. If Atlanta gets 3-6 inches then I expect the upstate to get just as much if not more with the precipitation backing up against the mountains.

Sorry , you are correct, Atl is under a watch. Funny they are under a watch yet Raleigh is under a warning while Atl is eminent. Actually TWC has an area south of ATL in the 3-6 band with ATL in 1-3 (on their website map). In this same area, NWS has about 1/2 inch :nuts:

^^Every station is different in their predictions which I hate. :nuts: Yeah, it's still 1-3 in ATL, but they might change it to 3-6 later. There's a movie called Snow Day that is on TBS right now. :lol: :D Concidence? I think not. Their headquarters is in the ATL.

I wonder if they're going to have school? :D Oh wait. SNOW PLOW MAN=the ruiner of all snow days. :gaah: :cry: TWC says it's 47 here. It says on my digital thermometer that it's 37. :lol:

38 now with the temperature plunging.

Where's the snow? It's raining outside. :cry: :cry:

The temperature at my house just dropped from 40 to 36 in under 15 minutes and now there is snow mixing in with the rain. :yes:

The snow isn't sticking. :ohno: :bash: And where is everybody? They're obviously not outside playing. :rant:

WHERE IS EVERYBODY? :gaah: Shopping?

WHERE IS EVERYBODY? :gaah: Shopping?


:weirdo: Most people have real lives and real friends and don't sit in front of their computer every hour of every day making pointless comments just to run up their post totals. We're not all 19 year old kids with absolutely no life like you. No wonder you were run off of UP, you're annoying sometimes. You either need to be on medication or you're taking too much medication. Can't tell which. :nuts: Get a life. Get a girlfriend. Get laid. And get out of your parent's house and off the freakin' computer so much, kid. Sheesh!

^^So you're out shopping then? :tongue: :lol:

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:weirdo: Most people have real lives and real friends and don't sit in front of their computer every hour of every day making pointless comments just to run up their post totals. We're not all 19 year old kids with absolutely no life like you. No wonder you were run off of UP, you're annoying sometimes. You either need to be on medication or you're taking too much medication. Can't tell which. :nuts: Get a life. Get a girlfriend. Get laid. And get out of your parent's house and off the freakin' computer so much, kid. Sheesh!I agree with nearly your entire post - minus the "get laid" part, which I don't view as completely necessary for emotional maturity. Everything else is right on in my book.:yes:

I will continue to be immature and will post on here 24/7. How do you like them apples? :righton: :rock:

I agree with nearly your entire post - minus the "get laid" part, which I don't view as completely necessary for emotional maturity. Everything else is right on in my book.:yes:

Party pooper. :blahblah: I don't give a crap what you think and never will. :yes: My name is g-man430 and I am not going anywhere. Snap yo fingers. :banana2:

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Holy shit. :lol: Looks like something Raleigh-NC would do. :D :drunk: :rock:

I'm pretty fly for a white guy. :naughty: Any women out there. Skyliner says I need a girlfriend. :D

Holy shit. :lol: Looks like something Raleigh-NC would do. :D :drunk: :rock:

well, since she's not hear, I thought i should do it.......... :D
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:weirdo: Most people have real lives and real friends and don't sit in front of their computer every hour of every day making pointless comments just to run up their post totals. We're not all 19 year old kids with absolutely no life like you. No wonder you were run off of UP, you're annoying sometimes. You either need to be on medication or you're taking too much medication. Can't tell which. :nuts: Get a life. Get a girlfriend. Get laid. And get out of your parent's house and off the freakin' computer so much, kid. Sheesh!

Don't be hatin'. You feel me? :D

Okay moron. Respect has to be earned. It will reciprocate back to those who have it, just as negativity and immaturity will come back to those who live it. If that is the way you wish to live your life, then don't be surprised if you continue to face opposition and repression.

Okay moron. Respect has to be earned. It will reciprocate back to those who have it, just as negativity and immaturity will come back to those who live it. If that is the way you wish to live your life, then don't be surprised if you continue to face opposition and repression.

You think you're special
You do
I can see it in your eyes
I can see it when you laugh at me
Look down on me
You walk around on me
Just one more fight
About your leadership
And I will straight up
Leave your shit
Cause I've had enough of this
And now I'm pissed

Yeah
This time I'm 'a let it all come out
This time I'm 'a stand up and shout
I'm 'a do things my way
It's my way
My way, or the highway

:rock: :righton:

I started this thread, not you. Go back to urbanplanet and leave me alone Skyliner. Who gives a shit if I face opposition? I sure don't. If people don't like it then they can leave. I'm not stopping them. I love everybody on this forum and that's why I will never leave. I will provide pics, news, and information when they want or need it. :hug:

Now can we PLEASE get back to the developments. :grouphug:

Saco Lowell redevelopment plan moves forward

By Amy Clarke-Greenville News

Easley City Council has decided to go it alone in the redevelopment of the Saco Lowell site.

The council unanimously approved a resolution to adopt a memorandum of understanding with developers.

"This MOU expresses the city's intention to work with Cedarwood (Development) to provide a mechanism to finance a portion of the public improvements related to the development of the former Saco Lowell site," said city administrator Fox Simons.

With Pickens County Council and the school board having previously declined to participate in a tax increment financing district at the site, the City of Easley announced its plan to implement a city-only TIF and contribute an additional $1.7 million to the project.

Simons called the resolution a "serious statement of intention" to assist with redevelopment at Saco Lowell and said the process of finalizing the TIF and authorizing the financing will begin in the next month.

Developer David Scarnati said Easley residents could start seeing activity at the site by the spring and could expect a "full-service shopping center development" with some "familiar names."

"This is a big step forward in the successful redevelopment of Saco Lowell," he said.

Mayor Larry Bagwell, presiding over his first council meeting since his election in November, said, "It's going to carry Easley another step forward."

Ok. I will try to be less immature from now on only if some people promise to quit bashing me. Deal?

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G-man, I think it's great that you're passionate about the development, improvement, and growth of your metro. I think it's obvious that you have lots of energy to go along with that passion, as well. It's your life. Live it like you want to.

^^It's that damn Red Bull. :D I'm calm now cause it wore off. :yes: I think StevenW had some too. :lol:

These trucks belong to secret government organizations... They have nothing to do with wrestling :lol:

StevenW, I am not a "she"... Far from it :ohno:

^^Are those the same trucks that carry weapons, but pretend to carry cheese? :D Is your penguin a she?

Is your penguin a she?

I don't think Raleigh-NC trusts you with his penguin. :lol:

^^What's the worse that could happen? Somebody hand me the tarter sauce. ;)

Now it looks like Savannah is in the running for the Volkswagen plant. :nuts: :lol: I love it how they say Rolls Royce is looking at it too especially seeing how they already decided where they're going to locate: http://www.savannahnow.com/node/433743 Just because the upstate area of South Carolina has ICAR, a good site, the workforce, suppliers, interstate/train access, ports nearby, provided more incentives for BMW then anybody else after looking at more than 300 sites, etc. does not mean we're going to get it. ;) BMW says they feel more welcomed here than anywhere else and that's why they keep expanding here. Volkswagen is obviously taking note of that seeing how they are a european automaker too. :yes: South Carolina is also non-union unlike North Carolina.

G-Man, I'm not a rasslin' fan, but I believe there is a nationwide pay-per view rasslin' event at the bi-lo center Sunday or Monday night.

^^:dunno: I know there is a TNA pay-per-view in late February, but that's it. I looked at the events page on the Bi-Lo Center's website. :nuts:

^^What's rasslin'? :dunno: I know there is a TNA pay-per-view in late February, but that's it.

Maybe they were there rehearsing?

^^But WWE and TNA are two different companies not affiliated with each other in any way. Raleigh-NC must be right. :lol: I don't watch rasslin' either. Just thought it was kind of odd to see those trucks there. :yes:

CRITERIA: TRAVEL AND TOURISM INDUSTRY PURPOSES

WELCOME SIGNS

PROJECT: Welcome, Thank You for Visiting/Come Again, and Directional Signs

BACKGROUND: Tourism is vital to the economy of South Carolina and the County of Greenville. Located at the base of the Blue Ridge Mountains with a wide array of natural features including waterfalls, parks, lakes, and trails, Greenville County is a destination for tourists seeking to experience the outdoors, the arts, and athletics, as well as enjoy fine dining and shopping. The opportunity to attract regional visitors is growing rapidly as the County’s implements the TRAC (Tourism, Recreation, and Athletics Coalition) Plan, and we are constantly working to highlight the County’s many attributes and capture the attention of visitors traveling through the region. Welcome signs visually alert and encourage visitors to stop and explore our region, inviting them to return often and share their experiences, increasing crucial tourism opportunities within Greenville County.

Recent statistics from the South Carolina’s Hospitality and Tourism Cluster Analysis Report show that increasing the percentage of visitors staying overnight or stopping and exploring Greenville County for the day will significantly impact our community. Greenville County is the 4th most visited County of South Carolina, annually receiving $829 million from domestic travelers (9.1% of the state total) and $47 million in state and local taxes, providing residents with over 9,000 jobs and $218 million in wages and salaries. The SC Department of Parks, Recreation, and Tourism’s statistics place Greenville at over 4.8 million visitors per year, increasing the virtual population of Greenville County by over 12,000 per day.

Additionally, South Carolina ranks 3rd behind Virginia and Florida as a southern destination of motor coach visitors. Our proximity to Virginia and Florida must significantly increase the number of motor coaches passing through Greenville County and South Carolina; however, Greenville County currently realizes little, if any, consistent scheduled motor coach visits. Improving signage will provide increased visibility to the motor coach tourism industry, as well as individual business and leisure travelers, alerting them to Greenville County’s many amenities and attractions.

Recognizing the economic import of increased tourism, Greenville County has partnered with the Recreation District, the Salvation Army, cultural institutions, and others to expand tourism opportunities through the Hospitality Tax implemented April 1, 2007. Currently the fund has pledged $51 million to tourism related capital projects of the TRAC Plan and tourist services including 8 sports complexes, 2 mountain adventure and retreat centers, 2 water parks, the Children’s Museum, an African American historical and cultural center, and a 30 mile trail connecting the County’s northern and southern regions with numerous recreational, educational, and environmental stopping points. The County is also working with the Convention and Visitors Bureau to attract more recreational weekend tourists. Additionally, a number of nonprofit organizations have pledged to landscape at no cost the welcome signs at critical, high visibility locations, complementing the aesthetics and appeal of the region.

DESCRIPTION: Greenville County is seeking to update Welcome, Thank You for Visiting/Come Again, and directional signage coming into and leaving from the Greenville County area on major vehicular arteries. This signage is designed to welcome travelers, tourists, and visitors into Greenville County, direct them to some of the beautiful recreational opportunities and facilities the County has to offer, thank them for their visits, and invite them to come again.

JUSTIFICATION: The addition of specially designed signs is intended to make travelers, tourists, and visitors aware that they have arrived, welcome them into the area, and increase tourism and overnight stays in the area, as well as provide directions to attractions in the area, thank visitors for making Greenville their destination, and invite them to come again.

COST: The cost for the welcome and directional signs is $30,000. This cost includes 50- 30”x48” Welcome/Thank You/Come Again/Directional signs and 5- 48”x96” Welcome/Thank You/Come Again signs for major routes such as I-85, I-385, SC25, etc., as well as the coordinating posts and hardware. As an in-kind match, Greenville County will provide the labor and equipment to install the signs at $120 per sign.

Once signs are installed, a number of nonprofit organizations have pledged to landscape the signs in the most visible areas at no cost to the County in a manner congruent to the aesthetic character of the County, visually inviting visitors and making a lasting impression. Greenville County is requesting $30,000 from the SC Budget and Control Board for this project. The project will begin as soon as funds are available.

I like the idea. I hope they get the funding.

^^I like the idea of Anderson getting a VW plant, but it's not going to happen. Same thing happened to Rolls Royce. :ohno:

In March-April 2007, we heard announcements for the Point, Project Skyline, and Magnolia Park Town Center. We haven't heard any major announcements since. I think we're do for at least one. ;)

It's all Dubai's fault. :rant:

Buddy, can you spare a crane?
Upstate builders cope with global shortage

Elizabeth H. Lewis, Contributing Writer-GSA Business

“Less is more” is a philosophy that may have its merits in terms of building design, but most architects, engineers and construction managers agree that “less” is not so great when it comes to the availability of materials and machinery necessary to actually get the building built.

Thanks to an explosion of construction across the globe, cranes have become a scarce commodity. This phenomenon comes as foreign economies flourish and channel much of their gains into infrastructure projects such as bridges, roads and energy-related facilities.

The country of Dubai is one construction hot spot due to a number of factors, including the availability of cheap labor, an increased emphasis on tourism, and the government’s push for diversification away from its dwindling oil-based economy. Consequently, it is estimated that 16 percent of the world’s cranes are housed in Dubai.

China has also commandeered its share of cranes, as frenzied construction paves the way for the Beijing Summer Olympics. Rebuilding of war-torn countries in the Middle East represents yet another demand for these machines.

The Upstate is no stranger to the competition for construction cranes.

“All major crane manufacturers are mostly sold out through 2008 on most models,” says Dean Smith, vice president and global asset manager for Ameco, a Greenville-based unit of Fluor Corp. that provides equipment and tools to government and industry.

Ameco owns some cranes, while renting others.

“The majority of rough-terrain cranes 90 tons and below are owned, while crawler cranes and larger rough-terrain cranes are rented,” explains Smith.

Like other companies, Ameco has felt the pinch of the crane shortage.

“The 200-ton and larger crawler cranes are the hardest to locate,” says Smith. “Smaller rough-terrain cranes can be located through dealer stock; however, dealers are charging a premium markup of 15 to 25 percent.”

He adds that Ameco’s most recent purchase of a 50-ton rough-terrain crane cost approximately $350,000.

Smith emphasizes the importance of effective scheduling and networking with crane rental companies in order to address the crane shortage with regard to individual projects. This sentiment is echoed by Gary Caldwell, owner of Greenville-based Caldwell Constructors.

“With proper advance planning and notice to our subcontractors, we have not really felt any negative impact of crane availability during the last year in the Upstate,” says Caldwell.

He recently completed a downtown Greenville project that required a large crane to lift steel to the roof and remove concrete wall panels. In order to ensure that the work take place the week after Christmas, the crane had been scheduled since early November.

Caldwell Constructors, whose recent projects include The Bookends condominiums and four new buildings in Pelham Hills Shopping Center, does not own cranes as a general contractor, and thus employs crane rental firms such as Davis Erecting & Finishing Inc. and Campbell Inc.

Although crane availability is undoubtedly a consideration for most large construction projects, not all Upstate builders have been significantly affected by the shortage.

“The only shortage we have found is in tower cranes, which we don’t use very often,” says Ashley Stipes of Greenville-based Harper Corp.

Harper owns several truck-mounted boom cranes and rents larger cranes, such as the one used on the Palmetto Bank headquarters project in downtown Greenville. Stipes agrees that scheduling cranes in advance is the best way to work around the shortage.

The type and size of the project dictates the type of crane needed, which in turn determines the extent to which crane availability is an issue. Tower cranes are commonly used in the construction of tall buildings.

The base of this T-shaped crane is anchored to a large concrete slab and supports the mast, or tower.

The mast supports a horizontal boom that enables optimum lifting and reach capabilities.

The rough-terrain crane is mounted on an undercarriage having four rubber tires. This mobile crane is designed for off-road or remote projects.

Crawler cranes are similar to rough-terrain cranes in that they are mounted to an undercarriage, but unlike the latter, crawler cranes move by means of tracks instead of rubber tires, thereby enabling them to carry heavier loads.

Truck-mounted cranes are designed for street and highway travel, thereby eliminating the need for special transport to the job site.

California-based Fluor maintains a network of offices in more than 25 countries across six continents and is presently managing construction projects in Canada, Mexico, Panama, South Africa, Russia, Iraq and other locales.

“Renting cranes internationally is nearly 30 to 40 percent higher than domestically, particularly in the Middle East,” Smith says.

Hey G-Man, Did you ever complete your homework assignment from a couple of months ago? LOL! :)The one to get the big green interstate signs that say "Greenville" that should say "Downtown"? :banana:

^^I contacted SCDOT, but never got a response back. :( However, they are finally starting to fix the median/interchange lights on I-85 in the western part of the county. :D

g-man, what happened to your fat squirrel? My penguin - who happens to be a male - loves your avatar ;)

^^I had to go back. I missed my fish. :D

The interstate lights haven't been a problem. There is plenty of light with the majority always working.

^^It's not a problem, just annoying. Actually, at least half of them were out. Now only 25% of them are out. The ones near the Southern Connector are still out. Hopefully they'll fix them soon. :yes: If they're going to put all of those lights up with taxpayer money, they should at least be able to keep them all on. It doesn't mark highly of the area if you can't do that.

I drive through there quite often after dark and have never seen only half working (except when we had a power outage). There are a few out near I-185, but again, the majority are fine and it is well lit. No need to be concerned.

^^Ok. Whatever you say. ;)

Gman i have to agree with you. I drive 85 everyday and i noticed it too. I even considered contacting the SCDOT and letting them now. Half of the lights between laurens rd and Augusta Rd didnt work. It really looked bad and i could never figure out why they just didnt fix them.

^^Also, the ones between the Southern Connector and Highway 153 along with the ones next to the Hitachi plant just west of Laurens Road didn't work at all. I sent the SCDOT an email a month ago about it. That could be why they finally got out there and fixed them. :)

^^Also, the ones between the Southern Connector and Highway 153 along with the ones next to the Hitachi plant just west of Laurens Road didn't work at all. I sent the SCDOT an email a month ago about it. That could be why they finally got out there and fixed them. :)

Another one of my pet peeves regarding interstate signs: When traveling North on I-85 the I-185 exit says downtown, if you're traveling south on I-85 the same exit does not say downtown. If you're traveling south on I-85 the I-385 exit says downtown, but if you're traveling north at the same exit it doesn't say downtown. Strange. You would think there is a conspiracy. Along those lines someone told me the person in charge of interstate signs is from Spartanburg. Everyone knows the jealousy that Spartanburg has toward Greenville. I wonder if that has anything to do with the signs being screwed up? I know Wofford College in Spartanburg had exit signs all over Spartanburg County for years before Furman finally got "one" in Greenville. They didn't get that one until Furman finally got involved. Another thing is technically coming out of Charlotte I-85 south signs should say Greenville, not Spartanburg. The I-26 West sign coming out of Columbia should say Asheville, not Spartanburg.
The "rule" is the next city with 50k population. Spartanburg has less than 40k.
All this makes you think the guy over the signs is from Spartanburg.

^^The ones that say downtown are newer and they haven't replaced the old ones yet. :yes:


GreenbergFarrow Plans 75-Acre Mixed-Use Project

News release-December 3, 2007

Atlanta-based GreenbergFarrow, an architecture, planning, engineering and development consulting firm, is laying the groundwork for one of the nation's most ambitious brownfield redevelopment projects. The 75-acre mixed-use project situated in Greenville, S.C., is the redevelopment of the former Hoechst Celanese fiber plant located near the intersection of Interstate 85 and Woodruff Road. GreenbergFarrow is working with Atlanta-based McChesney Investment Advisors, which envisions the creation of a sustainable living environment that incorporates "smart growth" redevelopment strategies. The first requirement to begin the site's redevelopment will be the demolition of a 2-million-sq.-ft. fiber plant factory presently on the site--expected to take place early next year. The project will ultimately cost about $600 million and is projected to include 4.5 million sq. ft. of retail, office, residential and hotel space, as well as a 2-acre linear public park. The developer hopes to create 500,000 sq. ft. of new retail, 600,000 sq. ft. of office space, a 420-room hotel, 1,225 condominiums and 1,125 apartments. Plans also incorporate pedestrian-friendly walkways, tree-lined boulevards, bike paths and recreational open green spaces. Demolition is expected to begin in the first quarter of 2008, and retail, including restaurant space, is expected to be part of the first phase. The entire project will be rolled out within a decade.

Another one of my pet peeves regarding interstate signs: When traveling North on I-85 the I-185 exit says downtown, if you're traveling south on I-85 the same exit does not say downtown. If you're traveling south on I-85 the I-385 exit says downtown, but if you're traveling north at the same exit it doesn't say downtown. Strange. You would think there is a conspiracy. Along those lines someone told me the person in charge of interstate signs is from Spartanburg. Everyone knows the jealousy that Spartanburg has toward Greenville. I wonder if that has anything to do with the signs being screwed up? I know Wofford College in Spartanburg had exit signs all over Spartanburg County for years before Furman finally got "one" in Greenville. They didn't get that one until Furman finally got involved. Another thing is technically coming out of Charlotte I-85 south signs should say Greenville, not Spartanburg. The I-26 West sign coming out of Columbia should say Asheville, not Spartanburg.
The "rule" is the next city with 50k population. Spartanburg has less than 40k.
All this makes you think the guy over the signs is from Spartanburg.

I understand what you're saying about the downtown signs, but wouldn't it make sense the way it is? If you're coming to the city from the South, you're not going to take 385, you'd take 185. And if you're coming from Spartanburg, you'd definitely take 385. I'd like to see it say downtown on both directions, but I'm just saying that it does make sense and the man in charge isn't NECESSARILY totally trying to screw Greenville over :pet:

I'd like for the signs from Columbia to say 'Greenville-Spartanburg' rather than just Spartanburg.

^^You're supposed to say something about the Point not the interstate signage. :rant:

The Point could of been built where Carolina First is building now if they would of built a highrise downtown. How do you like them apples? :bash: :ohno:

^^The ones that say downtown are newer and they haven't replaced the old ones yet. :yes:


GreenbergFarrow Plans 75-Acre Mixed-Use Project

News release-December 3, 2007

Atlanta-based GreenbergFarrow, an architecture, planning, engineering and development consulting firm, is laying the groundwork for one of the nation's most ambitious brownfield redevelopment projects. The 75-acre mixed-use project situated in Greenville, S.C., is the redevelopment of the former Hoechst Celanese fiber plant located near the intersection of Interstate 85 and Woodruff Road. GreenbergFarrow is working with Atlanta-based McChesney Investment Advisors, which envisions the creation of a sustainable living environment that incorporates "smart growth" redevelopment strategies. The first requirement to begin the site's redevelopment will be the demolition of a 2-million-sq.-ft. fiber plant factory presently on the site--expected to take place early next year. The project will ultimately cost about $600 million and is projected to include 4.5 million sq. ft. of retail, office, residential and hotel space, as well as a 2-acre linear public park. The developer hopes to create 500,000 sq. ft. of new retail, 600,000 sq. ft. of office space, a 420-room hotel, 1,225 condominiums and 1,125 apartments. Plans also incorporate pedestrian-friendly walkways, tree-lined boulevards, bike paths and recreational open green spaces. Demolition is expected to begin in the first quarter of 2008, and retail, including restaurant space, is expected to be part of the first phase. The entire project will be rolled out within a decade.

This news release is dated 12-3. Was this before or after the announcement that the sale fell thru?

^^After. The announcement about the contract expiring was in November.

The site is still for sale though: http://www.loopnet.com/Attachments/3/C/6/3C6A31CB-0C28-4B5C-89A1-ECEDD4C957EA.pdf McChesney is planning to partner with another investment group to see if they can buy the site and do a joint project. :yes:

You make me wanna shout, kick my heels up and shout. http://bestsmileys.com/toliot/1.gif

^^After. The announcement about the contract expiring was in November.

I am confused. We just heard last week that the whole project was off, november was when the sale pending on part of the land ran out. So it seems this article is telling what would have happened.:dunno:

^^Believe all of what you see, half of what you read, and none of what you hear. ;) Only one person out of like six I emailed said it was dead. Everybody else has said it's still very much alive.

^^Believe all of what you see, half of what you read, and none of what you hear. ;) Only one person out of like six I emailed said it was dead. Everybody else has said it's still very much alive.

Good.

But that's what was said about project skyline too:nuts:

^^Believe all of what you see, half of what you read, and none of what you hear. ;) Only one person out of like six I emailed said it was dead. Everybody else has said it's still very much alive.


"YEAH!"
"So you're sayin there's a chance... I hear ya." :lol:

^^Project Skyline is still very much alive. :yes:

Santa Claus: How about a nice football?
Distortedlogic: Football? Football? What's a football? With unconscious will my voice squeaked out 'football'.
Santa Claus: Okay, get him out of here.
Distortedlogic: [narrating] A football? Oh no, what was I doing? Wake up, Stupid! Wake up!
Distortedlogic: [Distortedlogic is shoved down the slide, but he stops himself and climbs back up] No! No! I want an Official Red Ryder Carbine-Action Two-Hundred-Shot Range Model Air Rifle!
Santa Claus: You'll shoot your eye out, kid.

Raleigh-NC: Oooh fuuudge! Only I didn't say "Fudge." I said THE word, the big one, the queen-mother of dirty words, the "F-dash-dash-dash" word!

Look at how much bigger Greenville is than Columbia: http://recenter.tamu.edu/data/popm/pm3160.htm and http://www.recenter.tamu.edu/data/popm/pm1760.htm

:yes: Why I will be shopping at Whole Foods over Earth Fare from now on unless Earth Fare decides to do the same thing: http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/food/2008-01-21-whole-foods-bags_N.htm#uslPageReturn

Looks like will have several mixed-use developments/shopping centers start up in the next 2-3 months. Magnolia Park Town Center, Crescent Place, Easley Town Center, and Easton Marketplace are all scheduled to start sometime around March-April.

"Fudge" back to your face :rofl:

^^:cry: :pet:

I am super confused about the McChesney development at The Point. :lol: