It's about time for a development thread for my city with a lot of things going for it right now. :)

Ok, i'll start off with some breaking news. The Greenville Mall will be torn down to make way for the Magnolia Park Town Center which will be an open air mall that will feature a Costco, a Rooms To Go, and possibly a Bass Pro Shops. More info here: http://greenvilleonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060521/BUSINESS/605210328

Next, there are plans to build two seven story condos right next to I-385 which is a few miles outside of downtown. No renderings yet, but expect some soon.

Here are just a few of the developments going on here that have been announced and are either proposed or under construction:

The Pinnacle on Main-13 stories tall; proposed and approved, expect construction of this to start real soon: http://www.pinnacleonmain.com

The Camperdown Condos-14 stories tall; proposed and approved, expect construction of this to start in the fall: http://www.thecamperdowncondos.com

The Shops at Greenridge-huge open air shopping center all complete except for the outparcels: http://www.shopgreenridge.com

Riverplace-Mixed use development going downtown that will consist of 9 buildings. So far 4 buildings have been complete, all in phase 1 and a fifth building, the terrace at riverplace, which is part of phase 2 is under construction. http://www.terraceatriverplace.com, http://riverplace.hreinc.com, http://www.55riverplace.com

CU-ICAR (Clemson University International Center for Automotive Research) Huge Automotive and research center that will include Clemson University, BMW, Michelin, SAE, Timken, British Automotive, NASCAR, IBM, Microsoft, and more. Construction is under way on phase 1 right now. There are 5 phases in all. http://www.cu-icar.com

Verdae Development-10,000 residences, 15,000 employees, 1.5 billion dollars. Pre-construction has already begun like moving homes that currently exist on site and clearing of some trees. Expect the building of homes to begin within the next several months. Here is the story that was published a little over a year ago on this: http://greenvilleonline.com/news/sp...05050563957.htm and here is the main website of the development: http://www.verdaedevelopment.com/
MASTER PLAN: http://greenvilleonline.com/news/sp..._plan/index.htm


MORE TO COME!!!!

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Riverplace update-

Rendering:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/aerial-perspective.jpg

Construction of Terrace at Riverplace:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/Pictures202.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/Pictures200.jpg

Riverwalk at Riverplace:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/Pictures207.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/Pictures203.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/Pictures204.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/Pictures205.jpg

Field House at West End-Mixed use development project right next to the new Greenville Drive Ballpark:
Renderings-
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/rendering206.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/rendering2.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/rendering.jpg
Construction update-
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/Pictures190.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/Pictures187.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/Pictures188.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/Pictures189.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/Pictures191.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/Pictures192.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/Pictures196.jpg

Great thread and photos!!! Keep it as up-to-date as possible ;)

Verdae Retirement Village Update-

News Release:

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

June 22, 2006


Contact: Ken Bolt, President

864-322-7178

Banyan Senior Living Announces Plans for
Continuing-Care Senior Living Community
within Verdae Development

GREENVILLE, SC — Banyan Senior Living, a Greenville, S.C.-based firm specializing in the development, marketing, and management of senior living communities in the Southeast, announced it has been selected to construct a Continuing-Care Senior Living Community (CCSLC) in the master planned Verdae development. Banyan has entered into an agreement with Javelin Capital Partners, LLC, a private equity firm based in Dallas, Texas, to purchase a 40-acre tract of land off Verdae Boulevard on Old Sulpher Springs Road near the intersection of I-85 and I-385 in Greenville. The tract is part of the 1,100-acre, mixed-use Verdae Development Master Plan created in 2005 by Hollingsworth Funds, Inc., and Verdae Development, Inc.


“We are extremely pleased with the selection of Banyan Senior Living in partnership with Javelin Capital Partners as developer and operator of a full-service CCSLC. This is the first in a series of major announcements that will be unfolding in the near future,” commented John Cothran, president and chairman of Verdae Development, Inc. According to Rick Sumerel, executive vice president and chief operating officer of Verdae Development, “Banyan was selected following a deliberate and comprehensive evaluation process that included national, regional, and local entities. We look forward to working with them to bring this key component of our plan to fruition. The patience and commitment of the Verdae Development Board to the careful execution of the Verdae Master Plan is being rewarded today with this announcement of our first major development component.“


“We couldn’t be more excited about our involvement in this development,” said Ken Bolt, president of Banyan. “The Verdae Master Plan is a comprehensive design that has been crafted with care. Our new senior living community is part of Phase I and is just the beginning of what promises to be an awesome asset to the Greenville community and the Upstate. As a CCSLC, the community will offer a variety of residential options enabling residents to age-in-place without the worries of where they will move when additional assistance is required.” An estimated $100 million project employing more than 150 people, Banyan’s vision for the community is one that promotes health, wellness, and social interaction on a beautiful, wooded, superbly landscaped campus that utilizes traditional design in a non-institutional setting. The community’s first phase is currently programmed to include 40 patio homes and 160 Independent Living apartments. For residents needing more assistance, there will be 48 Assisted Living apartments, 24 Memory Care apartments, and 44 Skilled Nursing units.


Along with multiple residential options, the community will also offer a full range of recreational, wellness and social programs, scheduled transportation, housekeeping and laundry services, a wide range of planned activities, and interior and exterior maintenance. At the center of the community will be the Clubhouse, which will feature formal and informal dining, as well as a host of activity opportunities and services catering to a wide range of tastes. In addition, the Clubhouse will house a state-of-the-art Fitness Center and indoor pool. Being part of the Verdae community will also provide residents the opportunity to enjoy the community’s park, walking trails, green spaces, and golf course. Located in the “heart-of-it-all,” just 10 minutes from downtown Greenville, the community’s residents will have easy access to Greenville’s award-winning Main Street and its many offerings. The community’s location is central to all of the area’s acute healthcare and physician practices, and is ideal for shopping and dining—located less than three miles from the Haywood shopping district and the new Shops at Greenridge.

With 20 years of experience, Banyan is the most experienced developer and manager of CCRCs in South Carolina. Ken Bolt adds, “Our business is totally focused on creating the best possible living environment and experience for our residents. As a local firm, we are committed to Greenville both corporately and as residents. This community will be state-of-the-art and our flagship. We understand this market and the needs and desires of Greenville’s senior citizens.” The current schedule calls for construction to begin within 15 months with initial occupancy in August 2008. Additional details will be released over the next 60 days as due diligence and programming details are finalized. For more information about this senior living community, call 864-322-7178 or e-mail info@banyanseniorliving.com. You may also contact Banyan Senior Living by mail: P.O. Box 26867; Greenville, S.C. 29616-1867; or visit us at 86 Villa Road, Greenville.


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Rendering:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/GreenvilleCCRCSitePlan-Larger22.jpg

CU-ICAR Update:

ICAR Neighborhood 1 Rendering:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/sectorplan.jpg

Campbell Graduate Center:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/misc073.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/misc072.jpg

Foundation for Parking Garage:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/misc071.jpg

Parking Garage:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/misc070.jpg

Parking Garage Rendering:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/bilde.jpg
GO HERE FOR OTHER RENDERINGS OF ICAR BUILDINGS: http://www.cu-icar.com

Timken/Collaboration 3:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/misc069.jpg

Millennium Campus Update-

Hubbell Lighting Headquarters:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/Picture058.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/Picture041.jpg

Vision 2025 Update-

Future Multi-Modal Rendering going Downtown most likely:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/Multi-Modal-Center.jpg

ICAR is REALLY coming along fast.

Nice updates :okay: Things seem to move along just fine in Greenville!!!

VERDAE DEVELOPMENT UPDATE:

The Parvey Companies Purchase 32 Acres in Verdae Community for Traditional Neighborhood Development


Details of Phase I Development to Unfold in Late July



Greenville, S.C., July 7, 2006 – Verdae Development has sold the first residential lot component of the Verdae community to The Parvey Companies, an award-winning Georgia-based developer. Working with Verdae as master developer, Parvey will be responsible for the development of the community’s first residential offering.

“Richard Parvey and his associates will be great partners for this initial venture,” said Rick Sumerel, chief operating officer and vice president of Verdae Development, Inc. “They truly understand the vision of Verdae and will create a neighborhood development that will embrace the quality and natural beauty of this community.”

Consisting of 32 acres and approximately 125 home sites in Hollingsworth Park, the initial traditional neighborhood development (TND) concept will offer a range of price points with many sites offering panoramic views of the forthcoming Legacy Park. Traditional neighborhood development is characterized by a community design that fosters neighborly interaction and an intimate, small-town feel. In Verdae, this will be accomplished through smaller sites with homes and porches facing the street, service alleys behind the homes and small pocket parks throughout the community.

Parvey has selected a distinguished list of builders who will offer the quality and craftsmanship synonymous with the Verdae community. These builders will be named within a larger Verdae press announcement in late July which will also detail further development of Phase I of the master plan.


About The Parvey Companies


The Parvey Companies is a collection of subsidiary companies under the management of founder Richard E. Parvey, created to provide a fully-integrated approach to property development with services including acquisition, consulting, master planning, development, architecture and marketing.

The Parvey Companies was created with a vision of “place making” and the creation of unique communities of enduring quality and sound investment for the future. From Parvey’s appreciation for craftsmanship and preservation, its developments are about doing things the right way. They live in the communities they build and are creating a lifetime of memories and value for families. Recent substantial developments include projects in Seaside, Fla. and Nantucket, Mass.

About Verdae

Throughout his lifetime, John D. Hollingsworth invested in real estate because of his love for the land and belief in its enduring value. When his legacy was entrusted to the Board of Hollingsworth Fund, Inc., they carefully considered how best to utilize a key piece of property in the heart of Greenville and created Verdae Development, Inc. to realize the vision.

The result is Verdae, a 1,100-acre property located near the intersection of I-85 and I-385 in Greenville, S.C. As the subsidiary of Hollingsworth Funds, the not-for-profit organization established by the textile magnate, Verdae Development, Inc. will arrange for the development of this property.

The master-planned development will encompass a mix of different uses and residential neighborhoods. Upon completion, Verdae will include single-family homes, townhouses, condominiums, apartments and a retirement center. The commercial component of the development will feature hotels, retail and a variety of office and professional spaces.

For a comprehensive history and master plan information, please see www.verdaedevelopment.com.


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Looks like nice things are going on in Greenville,SC! :okay:

NEW MIXED-USE DEVELOPMENT COMING TO DOWNTOWN GREENVILLE!!!!
-MORE INFO: http://www.hughescommercial.com/properties/index.php?view=detail&realty-id=22#

NEW 5 STAR HOTEL COMING TO DOWNTOWN GREENVILLE, SC!!!!
MORE INFO: http://greenvilleonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060718/NEWS01/60718004 :banana:

Here is the rendering for it:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/bilde-1.jpg

RIVERPLACE UPDATE-

New interactive fountain:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/misc090.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/misc091.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/misc089.jpg

Terrace at Riverplace:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/misc088.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/misc087.jpg

Hampton Inn and Suites/Patio Area:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/misc084.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/misc085.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/misc092.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/misc093.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/misc094.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/misc095.jpg

Millennium Campus/Hubbell Lighting update pics:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/misc074.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/Picture097.jpg

CU-ICAR update pics:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/Picture098.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/Picture099.jpg

The Hampton is looking REALLY nice, and I can't wait to see that fountain!

I'm diggin' the rendering for the hotel/condo complex. Don't know much about the Peacock chain, but I'm sure it will be a hit. ;)

This is going to be a GREAT looking hotel when finished. In case you didn't see the news story before, here it is again (click on the right hand side of page to see renderings on website): http://www.greenvilleonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060718/NEWS01/60718004

I'm glad those pictures included the actual site. Now I can get a better feel of where this hotel will be located, and the location looks to be a good one.

As it looks now the hotel will be parallel to McBee Avenue and the Bookends. The Spire side will be facing Church Street and the back end will be facing Main Street. This is going to look great from the Church Street bridge.

Well if the back end will be facing Main, I'm sure the back will be just as aesthetically pleasing as the front.

I would certainly think so, even though that side doesn't have a spire. I could be wrong though about it facing that direction and/or they could change the direction it's facing if they wanted too.

I loved the design of the hotel :okay: The update photos are great, too!!! Thanks for continuing to post news and updates.

The developments just keep on coming. :banana:

MAGNOLIA PARK TOWN CENTER!!!!

Rendering of Residence Tower (Note: there will probably be an office tower also this tall):
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/lg1000415.jpg

More info about this project: http://www.theshoppingcentergroup.com/content/Product-121-1-415.htm


MID-TOWN CENTER!!!!

Rendering of site:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/UTS-Rendering8-12-05.jpg

Site plan:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/UTS-ColorSitePlan8-12-05-1.jpg

Aerial views:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/University20Ridge201207-11-05.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/University20Ridge202207-11-05.jpg

More info about this project: http://www.hughescommercial.com/properties/index.php?view=detail&realty-id=22#

WOW! Greenville is really coming up. Thanks for posting these updates.

No problem, man.

Peacock Hotel and Spa Update (Note: This building is 11 stories tall, but will be a 14 story building in height without the spire and 16-17 with the spire):

Preconstruction:
Hotel site-
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/bilde-2.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/bilde-3.jpg

Renderings:
Condo Entrance-
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/bilde-4.jpg

Hotel Lobby-
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/bilde-6.jpg

Hotel Entrance-
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/bilde-7.jpg

Building Rendering-
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/bilde-5.jpg

Riverplace Fountain Update Pics: (The right side of the fountain was on most of the day when these were taken I think about two weeks ago, so it's getting close now to being complete)
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/RiverPlace_03.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/RiverPlace_04.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/RiverPlace_05.jpg

Great updates :okay:

Like I said before the developments just keep on coming. It seems like there is a new one announced for the area every day.

$250 million dollar, 500 acres, 2,000 job, mixed-use development could be coming to the Greenville/Spartanburg County line or in better terms Greer. Official announcement should be sometime around the end of this year. More info can be found here: http://www.greenvilleonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060721/BUSINESS/607210344 and/or here: http://www.goupstate.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060721/NEWS/607210364/1062
:banana:

Great news! :) Can't wait until Greenville gets a new tall!! :D

That was a really speculatory article, but it's good to have a heads up. Can't wait to hear more details.

Great photo update on the fountain g-man! What is the projected completion date?

Thanks, but the credit goes to Skyliner from Urbanplanet, seeing how he's the one who took the pics. I'm not sure when the completion date for it is.

What ever happened to the 350 ft. tall tower that was proposed for downtown? :?
Is it on hold? :?

The 350 ft. tall tower called the Tower at Falls and Broad that was supposed to be built here is dead and has been for sometime now.

The 350 ft. tall tower called the Tower at Falls and Broad that was supposed to be built here is dead and has been for sometime now.
:( That's too bad. :(
Maybe there will be a new tall proposed soon. :)

:( That's too bad. :(
Maybe there will be a new tall proposed soon. :)
There is rumor of such a plan underway. Hope to hear more soon!

There is rumor of such a plan underway. Hope to hear more soon!
That would be so good to hear. :) Man! What a difference a new tall can do for a city! :D Please keep us informed. :)
Thanks.

No matter what you hear from people living in other cities, Greenville is on fire and getting hotter every year. As our mayor has recently stated, Downtown Greenville is emerging as a destination downtown, regardless of what some say. We welcome everyone with equal warmth. It is a very diverse city, with international flair visible virtually everywhere you look - no surprise, since Greenville has a higher per capita of international investment than any other location in the nation. I really enjoy the many street festivals held throughout the year to honor many different nations represented here. It gives one a sense of global family bonding. Also, it is quite impossible to walk around downtown and not hear multiple languages being spoken - mostly European, but many other dialects are often heard as well. Not a bleak picture at all for a former textile-centered town. Look for more great developments to come to this extremely vibrant city. :)

No matter what you hear from people living in other cities, Greenville is on fire and getting hotter every year. As our mayor has recently stated, Downtown Greenville is emerging as a destination downtown, regardless of what some say. We welcome everyone with equal warmth. It is a very diverse city, with international flair visible virtually everywhere you look - no surprise, since Greenville has a higher per capita of international investment than any other location in the nation. I really enjoy the many street festivals held throughout the year to honor many different nations represented here. It gives one a sense of global family bonding. Also, it is quite impossible to walk around downtown and not hear multiple languages being spoken - mostly European, but many other dialects are often heard as well. Not a bleak picture at all for a former textile-centered town. Look for more great developments to come to this extremely vibrant city. :)

Well said Skyliner!

I have received confirmation from the Marchant Co., the company selling the condos for the 14-story Camperdown Condos downtown that they have pre-sold enough units and are ready to start construction. The contractor of the project Harper Corporation told them they plan to start construction on it soon.

I have received confirmation from the Marchant Co., the company selling the condos for the 14-story Camperdown Condos downtown that they have pre-sold enough units and are ready to start construction. The contractor of the project Harper Corporation told them they plan to start construction on it soon.
Fantastic news!!! With both The Camperdown and The Peacock being such contemporary structures, this will do great things for the skyline!

I totally agree! How exciting to finally be on the verge of the upward building boom! :)

Boom? It's more like a loud pop, really. :lol: Throw a third tower in there and then maybe we can call it a boom.

Don't go getting all too excited because it could still be a couple months before construction starts on it.

For all you guys wanting to know, The Staybridge Suites by Holiday Inn is now under construction at the Point. Grading has already taken place and the foundation is being layed for it. It is not where you would expect it to be though. It is located on that 4 lane road a couple hundred feet past the new Blue Fire Grill on the same side as it right before you get to that medium sized one story office building. There is a sign there that says "Staybridge Suites: Coming 2007." I would of taken a picture of it, but unfortunately I didn't have my camera with me. If somebody could get a pic of it that would be great. Thanks.

The Greenville Dog Park in Cleveland Park is scheduled to open on August 12th at 10:00 am. The Greenville Drive will be on hand for the opening.

Nancy Whitworth has informed me that the city does not know yet what is going into the old Woolworth site yet.

Nancy Whitworth has informed me that the city does not know yet what is going into the old Woolworth site yet.
Any info on the City Hall Plaza site? She knows more than she is willing to tell. :)

I will definitely email her about that, Skyliner. :)

Local real estate executive John Boyd has just bought a large portion of the Woolworth's property. Read more at http://www.gsabusiness.com/ :)

This list is subject to change.


The Pinnacle on Main
350 North Main St. (N. Main & Elford)
Type: Mixed Use: Residential, Office, and Retail
Location: Downtown
Status: Planned, Groundbreaking delayed
Start Date: August 2005
Floors: 13
Height: 239 ft
Units: 6 Residential
Commercial space:
Developer: Triangle Construction Co.
Architect: Bob Ellis
Website(s):http://www.pinnacleonmain.com/
Articles: http://greenvilleonline.com/news/business/...04120254273.htm (http://greenvilleonline.com/news/business/2004/12/02/2004120254273.htm)
Renderings:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/UPspartan/GSA%20Index/images%20resized/PinnacleRE.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y100/Skyliner25/Divider2.png

The Camperdown Condominiums
Reedy View Drive
Type: Residential
Location: West End
Status: Planned, Groundbreaking delayed
Start Date: Summer 2005
Floors: 14
Height:
Units: 71
Developer: Southland Corp.
Architect: Justice Design Studio
Website(s):
http://camperdown.southcorpinc.com/
http://www.marchantco.com/camperdown.php

Articles:
Southcorp News on Phase 1 (http://www.southcorpinc.com/content/view/31/35/)

Renderings:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y100/Skyliner25/Camperdown.png
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y100/Skyliner25/Divider2.png

The Tower at Falls and Broad
Falls Street @ Broad Street
Type: Mixed-use: Office, Residential, Hotel, Retail
Location: Central Business District
Status: Planned, now DEAD
Start Date: NA
Floors: 20
Height: 350'
Units: NA
Developer: PHC Communities
Architect: Ron Vergnolle
Website: Official Website (http://thetoweratfallsandbroad.com/index.php)
Articles:
Greenville News Article (http://thetoweratfallsandbroad.com/press/RisetoNewtower.pdf)
GSABusiness Article (http://www.gsabusiness.com/addedValuesPI/stories/storyReader$908)

Renderings:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y100/Skyliner25/ToweratFallsandBroadUP.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y100/Skyliner25/Divider2.png

Main at McBee
Main Street @ McBee Avenue
Type: Mixed Use: Street-level Retail, Office
Location: Central Business District
Status: Planned, On hold due to lack of sufficient tenants
Start Date: NA
Floors: 7
Height: NA
Units: NA
Commercial space: 112,000 sf.
Developer: KDS Properties
Architect: Craig Gaulden Davis Architects (http://cgdarch.com/)
Website(s): NA
Articles: GSABusiness Article (http://www.gsabusiness.com/addedValuesPI/stories/storyReader$881)
Renderings:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y100/Skyliner25/MainatMcBeeUP.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y100/Skyliner25/Divider2.png

RiverPlace Office Tower
RiverPlace Phase III
Type: NA
Location: Downtown
Status: Planned
Start Date: NA
Floors: 12
Height: NA
Units: NA
Total space: 140,000 sf
Developer: Hughes Investments
Architect: NA
Website(s): RiverPlace - Hughes Real Estate, Inc. (http://riverplace.hreinc.com/)
Articles:
Renderings: Note that this rendering is outdated and doesn't show proper building height.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y100/Skyliner25/RiverPlaceOfficeUP.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y100/Skyliner25/Divider2.png

Bob Ellis Second Tower
No location disclosed as of yet.
Type: Mixed Use: Office, Retail, Residential
Location: Downtown
Status: Publicly mentioned, DEAD
Start Date: NA
Floors: 14
Height:
Units: NA
Commercial space:
Developer: NA
Architect: Bob Ellis
Website(s):
Articles:
Renderings: NA
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y100/Skyliner25/Divider2.png

U.S. Federal Courthouse*
Gateway Site (Church Street at North Street)
Type: Government
Location: Central Business District
Status: Being planned, NA
Start Date: NA
Floors: 8-12+
Height:
Units: NA
Commercial space:
Developer: NA
Architect: NA
Website(s): NA
Articles:
Renderings: NA
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y100/Skyliner25/Divider2.png

The Peacock Hotel & Spa
McBee Avenue @ Spring Street
Type: Hotel, Condo, and Restaurant
Location: Central Business District
Status: Planned, NA
Start Date: September 2006
Floors: 11
Height: NA
Units:
Commercial space: NA
Developer: Mark Kent and Grant Peacock
Architect: Craig Gaulden Davis Architects (http://cgdarch.com/)
Website(s): NA
Articles: The Greenville News - July 18, 2006 (http://www.greenvillenews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060718/NEWS01/60718004)

Renderings:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y100/Skyliner25/PeacockHotelSpa.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y100/Skyliner25/Divider2.png

Office Tower at Main and Broad
Main Street @ Broad Street
Type: Mixed-Use: Office, retail, residential
Location: Central Business District
Status: Dispute during land acquisition, Now looking for different property downtown
Start Date: NA
Floors: 15-20
Height: NA
Units: NA
Commercial space: NA
Developer: NA
Architect: MCA Architecture
Website(s): NA
Articles: NA
Renderings: NA
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y100/Skyliner25/Divider2.png

Mixed-use Tower at City Plaza
Main Street @ Broad Street, adjacent to City Hall
Type: Mixed-Use: Office, retail, residential
Location: Central Business District
Status: Plans submitted for review and approval by City Council
Start Date: NA
Floors: 12
Height: NA
Units: NA
Commercial space: NA
Developer: Holmes Smith
Architect:
Website(s): NA
Articles: NA
Renderings: NA


*Funding for the new Federal Courthouse will not be available until next Fall at the earliest. The footprint will be rather large due to the required square footage and the limited number of floors spoken of to reporters. Early requirements for building design (http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=6931&view=findpost&p=55527) More Info Here (http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2004/06-June/04-Jun-2004/FBO-00596187.htm)

Another important property to really watch for multi-story development is the old Woolworth site @ Main & Washington Streets. The mayor has already spoken of this development, but not given details.

These are only those projects which have either been proposed, are in the early concept stages, or are near construction and have been made public to date.

Skyliner, this is an ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC way to present the new projects in Greenville :applause: One question, though: If the Tower at Falls and Broad is now dead, how come the renderings have been altered? Is the initial desing dead, or the entire project?

The entire project of the Tower at Falls and Broad is dead, Raleigh-NC. Also, Nancy Whitworth emailed me telling me that as soon as she hears more about the city hall plaza site, she would email me about it.

Isn't a hotel rumored for that site?

Isn't a hotel rumored for that site?

You are correct, Krazee. It will obviously not be as nice as the Peacock will, but it might be as tall if not taller than that.

Was driving on Interstate 385 today and noticed that construction has started on that development between JHM Hotels and the Hilton.

Here is the site plan for that development: http://www.loopnet.com/Attachments/3/9/7/3973BEB8-87AB-4F2F-ACA1-28C1BBF5CC9C.pdf

Here is the site plan for the development on Roper Mountain Road near I-385:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/552E7C8D-EE61-41EA-9FEB-8C47F30A7E1.jpg

Is it just me or does this site look a little different then it did yesterday: http://www.pinnacleonmain.com/

Umm, looks like I was kind of wrong. According to Kathy Slayter from Marchant Corporation in an email I just got, there are only 20 units under reservation for the Camperdown Condos. I'm not sure why their website says more than half of the 81 units have been reserved, but that information is wrong. I have emailed her again asking many need to be reserved for construction to begin.

Greenville FIRST has two HUGE sets of lettering up on their new headquarters at Bonaventure on Verdae! It's great to see Verdae progressing... only months before bulldozers and construction workers will begin the first residential portion just down the road!

I noticed the same thing driving by there a couple days ago. :)

Here's a look at the sign at the site of downtown Greenville's newest announced development. It's in the West End Historic District. The Brick Street Lofts.

http://static.flickr.com/80/214285860_e1154ba959_b.jpg

I haven't heard about this before now. Where exactly is it located (Brick Street doesn't mean anything to me)?

I haven't heard about this before now. Where exactly is it located (Brick Street doesn't mean anything to me)?
It's on Augusta Street next to Brick Street Cafe across from Greenville High. I don't think an actual "Brick St" exists- just named after the resturant next door?

That's pretty nice. The glass entrance on the corner had me fooled for a minute; it looked like a rail stop. How cool would that be? The development actually does resemble some TOD's I've seen.

That's pretty nice. The glass entrance on the corner had me fooled for a minute; it looked like a rail stop. How cool would that be? The development actually does resemble some TOD's I've seen.
That would be cool. This is going to be a great development. I assume it will have retail at street level from the rendering, which will be a great addition to a blossoming Augusta Street.

Four stories of residential is nice in that location. It will add to the booming urban fill-in projects taking place around this area.

This project reminds me of something that I've seen in Charleston, and I no idea what it is. But everytime I see the rendering I think "charleston"

Great looking project. Is Spring 2007 the construction start time or the finish time for these lofts?

That's pretty nice. The glass entrance on the corner had me fooled for a minute; it looked like a rail stop. How cool would that be? The development actually does resemble some TOD's I've seen.
What is funny, and something you may not know, krazeeboi, just across Augusta Street from this property is a railroad. ;)

What is funny, and something you may not know, krazeeboi, just across Augusta Street from this property is a railroad. ;)

And hopefully the future home of a light rail transit stop. :)

Here's a look at the sign at the site of downtown Greenville's newest announced development. It's in the West End Historic District. The Brick Street Lofts.

http://static.flickr.com/80/214285860_e1154ba959_b.jpg
Thanks for posting GvilleSc! This will definitely help fill in along Augusta in West End. Not sure if I should tease you guys or not....... soI guess I will. There are two more very similar developments being worked on for the same stretch of Augusta that should be announced before years end. Can't say anymore.

Thanks for posting GvilleSc! This will definitely help fill in along Augusta in West End. Not sure if I should tease you guys or not....... soI guess I will. There are two more very similar developments being worked on for the same stretch of Augusta that should be announced before years end. Can't say anymore.
OOOOOooooooh! Exciting!!! I hope atleast one of those will be on the other side of the street. Some of that stuff over there has to go! Thanks for the info!

CU-ICAR update: http://www.goupstate.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060814/NEWS/608140326/1062

CU-ICAR powerpoint presentation: http://www.clemson.edu/autoresearch/about/clemsonICAR062405.htm

CU-ICAR powerpoint presentation: http://www.clemson.edu/autoresearch/about/clemsonICAR062405.htm

This is a good, basic presentation about ICAR. Thanks for posting it.

On a side note (which relates to another thread), the skyline shot of Greenville on slide 6 of the presentation is really good. I especially like the angle and colorful sky. :)

Thanks g-man. I agree with Greenville, nice nightime skyline shot. Never seen it before. The whole presentation is good....I like the way they show the location of ICAR between Charlotte and Atlanta.

Go here and click on the Greenville News and Events section below where the "Welcome" video is playing then click on the first video posted for an excellent presentation on CU-ICAR: http://www.greenvillechamber.org/in...annel&recid=375

And hopefully the future home of a light rail transit stop. :)

Keep those fingers crossed! In a few years, Greenville will need it, or at least an extensive streetcar system.

Go here and click on the Greenville News and Events section below where the "Welcome" video is playing then click on the first video posted for an excellent presentation on CU-ICAR: http://www.greenvillechamber.org/in...annel&recid=375
Hey g-man, this link isn't working for me. What's the full web address?

Keep those fingers crossed! In a few years, Greenville will need it, or at least an extensive streetcar system.
Ooooh, streetcar system would be really neat. How would something like this work? If you have to stop at traffic signals and get caught up in traffic, would it be efficient and a money maker? I'm really intrigued

Hey g-man, this link isn't working for me. What's the full web address?

Go here and it will be on the front page: http://www.greenvillechamber.org/ :)

Coming to Irmo in Spring of 2007 and coming to Greenville in Summer of 2007.
More info: http://www.hyatt.com/hyatt/features/hotel-search-results.jsp?Ntt=South%20Carolina&_requestid=1241726

Exterior looks very nice: http://www.hyattdevelopment.com/hp_dc_exterior.html

More info about Hyatt Place hotel chain:
http://www.hyatt.com/hyatt/place/

Check out this awesome video too: http://www.hyattdevelopment.com/hp_dc_exterior_video.html

For Greenville, this is not a new hotel but just a total redesign of the Ameri-Suites next to Hilton, seeing how they got bought out by Hyatt Place.

Ooooh, streetcar system would be really neat. How would something like this work? If you have to stop at traffic signals and get caught up in traffic, would it be efficient and a money maker? I'm really intrigued

It would be neat, and I could see Greenville getting that before light rail. I'm not sure how it would work. Charlotte has streetcars, but I don't know if they're the most efficient (in terms of scheduling). But I don't think they're held up by regular traffic. With ICAR, Verdae, Millenium Campus, etc. all coming aboard in the same general area, I don't see why a case couldn't be made for streetcars. The neatest ones I've seen (pictures, not in person) are in Portland (of course).

New $10 million dollar Super Bi-Lo coming to Simpsonville. More info: http://greenvilleonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060817/BUSINESS/608170351

New $10 million dollar Super Bi-Lo coming to Simpsonville. More info: http://greenvilleonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060817/BUSINESS/608170351
The nice thing about this Bi-Lo, is it won't really add to sprawl. The location of the store is at the corner of the main crossroad in Simpsonville. Right in it's downtown area. So while located in a suburb, it will be less suburban in nature.

Site plan: http://www.loopnet.com/Attachments/B/6/3/B63A09C3-E97F-4C0C-B19A-2B06E3C69A1F.pdf

Dicuss concerns, issues, and the future of downtown Greenville August 23rd at 5:30 pm at city hall. More info: http://www.greatergreenville.com/Downtownbusinessesmeeting.pdf

I will not be able to attend this due to school, so if you can please definitely do. :)

It would be neat, and I could see Greenville getting that before light rail. I'm not sure how it would work. Charlotte has streetcars, but I don't know if they're the most efficient (in terms of scheduling). But I don't think they're held up by regular traffic. With ICAR, Verdae, Millenium Campus, etc. all coming aboard in the same general area, I don't see why a case couldn't be made for streetcars. The neatest ones I've seen (pictures, not in person) are in Portland (of course).
So they are on rails like old trolley lines?

I wouldn't mind seeing the tram service that is going to run from TR to downtown Greenville be expanded and meet this need. Then whenever time came, you could turn the tram ways into rail, if necessary. BUT the one from TR is going to be slow as Christmas and have weird running times, if i'm correct. So, with some alterations, it could be a cool thing. :)

^From what I see, they do run on rails like the old trolley lines...at least in Charlotte.

This project is well under construction, but I thought it would be nice to include here as well. This is a remodel from a former Ramada Inn just outside of downtown, into a luxury condominium complex.

What: The Brio - Luxury condominiums

Where: Church Street at Pearl Street

Website: Loopnet.com (http://www.loopnet.com/xNet/MainSite/Listing/Profile/ProfileSE.aspx?LID=14557443&linkcode=1070&sourcecode=1lww2t006a00002)

Rendering: http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y100/Skyliner25/Brio20Rendering201.jpg

A few of the remaining old mills in Greenville have been experiencing revitalization into loft condos and apartments. Here are a few links to these:

The Lofts of Greenville (http://www.theloftsofgreenville.com/) - Gallery (http://theloftsofgreenville.com/gallery/index.php)

The Lofts at Mills Mill (http://www.millsmill.com/)

Poe Mill Art Studios and Apartments (http://www.metrobeat.net/gbase/Expedite/Content?oid=oid%3A3626)

I have reviewed the renderings for the Riverplace Carillon contest thanks to RT and I must say they picked one of the worst designs out of the nine submitted. It's better than #5, but it worse than all the others I think. I would of picked #6, #2, or #9 if that one was in the center. I absolutely loved #6 and can't believe they didn't pick that one seeing how it was taller than the Terrace and Hampton Inn like at 10 stories tall with a clock and everything. It reminded me of the Bell Tower at Furman. I will post the renderings on here shortly for the people who haven't seen them.

The South Financial Group (http://www.thesouthgroup.com/), the largest financial institution headquartered in South Carolina is about to begin construction of its new headquarters on I-85 in Greenville.

What: The South Financial Group - Headquarters

Where: I-85, south of Woodruff Road

Cost: $100 to 200 million

Rendering:http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y100/Skyliner25/SouthFinancial_Greenville.jpg

Pendleton West (http://www.pendletonwest.com/) is a new mixed-use development in the West End of Downtown. Construction has been underway for several months now.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y100/Skyliner25/PendletonWest.jpg

Thanks, Skyliner. Where did you get the rendering for the South Financial headquarters at?

The first "community" of the Clemson University International Center for Automotive Research (http://www.clemson.edu/autoresearch/) is well underway. This is one of the most incredible developments ever to be built in the state. The collaboration between many major international corporations and the training of new professionals in the automotive industry are creating a new center for future transportation research.

What: CU-ICAR

Where: I-85 at Laurens Road

Rendering:http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y100/Skyliner25/ICAR_Phase1.jpg

Thanks, Skyliner. Where did you get the rendering for the South Financial headquarters at?
I have a copy from the initial news release. :)

Here are the renderings and winners for the Riverplace Carillon contest:

Winners:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/218843647_a8375d0863.jpg

1st place:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/218838011_d353b3ef0d.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/218838013_41e5641649.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/218838017_4bfd528f08.jpg

2nd place:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/218838020_21bf719fa1.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/218838023_59f78aed5f.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/218838027_cec13854b3.jpg

3rd place:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/218843644_efdd3af4d5.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/218843646_7ed0023438.jpg

4th place:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/218843649_85b58a3d6c.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/218843652_907958f7a1.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/218843654_93e26b4a76.jpg

5th place:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/218849253_0b9a80a33f.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/218849257_14f25cf211.jpg

6th place:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/218849258_c97121a81f.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/218849261_6499f25376.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/218849263_5898d10a94.jpg

7th place:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/218853917_9e934aa736.jpg

8th place:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/218853918_f893e17648.jpg

9th place:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/218853920_8eabcea791.jpg

10th place:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/218853922_e07cc823a6.jpg

Hey g-man: I don't think the place is accurate beyond 3rd. The rest were just taken and posted at random order and numbered for the purposes of a poll. Sorry I didn't make that clearer when I e-mailed these photos to you. :nuts:

Also, a couple of the photos appear to have gotten hosed up when you uploaded them to your photobucket account. You may want to re-upload/replace those to see if it fixes them.

Oh, I didn't realize that RT. Thanks for informing me. I already tried reloading the ones that didn't come out right to photobucket, but it still didn't work. :(

^^ Very cool. :yes:

Hey, any of you guys even been to lake wales, Fla. an seen the "Bok" Carillon tower?
It's awesome.

I thought the residential tower for Magnolia Park Town Center was going to be only 8 stories tall. By looking at the rendering photo posted here: http://www.theshoppingcentergroup.com/content/Product-121-1-415.htm, it looks to be 10-11 stories, due to the fact that when it rises above the three story building, it's already 7 stories tall, so 7+3=10, not 8. Also, how come Mid-Town Center isn't on Hughes Commercial's website anymore?

I still do not care for the residential tower rendering for Magnolia Park Town Center. It looks way too Myrtle Beach-ish for me, with the prominent balconies. Oh well, hopefully it will look better in real life once it's completed.

I'm still trying to figure out whether it's 8 or 10 stories tall, not whether it looks good or not, even though it does look ugly. The design still could change though. Also, why did Hughes Commercial take Mid-Town Center off their website. Is the project dead or something? One more thing; does anybody know when the heck their going to put up those renderings for the villagio verde site 7-story condo building? It seems to be taking forever. I wish somebody would answer my questions. :bash:

It is 10-stories tall. Mid Town is still early in the planning stages, but definitely not dead. :)

Thank you, Skyliner. Finally, I get my answer after days of questioning. :)

Have you or anybody else heard anything on the 7-story condos coming to the former Villagio-Verde site?

There is a rezoning sign up on the site of the formerly-proposed Villagio Verde. Call 467-5797 tomorrow to find out what it is about, since the City of Greenville will update their list tomorrow. ;)

Will it be on their website and what list are you talking about, Skyliner? Why did it have to be KDS Properties doing this twin 7-story condo project, because they suck. They can't even get the 9-story building downtown off the ground. :bash:

Patience, G-man. :colgate:

Haha, so what list are you talking about??????????

Every month, the Greenville Design and Preservation Commission (DPC) publishes a list of requests for review by the board on a specific date. Tomorrow is the date for the list to be updated on the phone line. Just call the number above sometime tomorrow to hear the latest updates.

Oh, ok. I know what your talking about now. I was reviewing their latest ones from early August just yesterday on http://www.greatergreenville.com

Will it be on their website and what list are you talking about, Skyliner? Why did it have to be KDS Properties doing this twin 7-story condo project, because they suck. They can't even get the 9-story building downtown off the ground. :bash:

I understand your frustration with this one. But remember that this location DT is very prominent. Perhaps with The Peacock announcement right across the street, this project will really get a boost. In fact, it could potentially add the need for some more retail or something and add a couple more floors to the plans!

Another good point, distortedlogic1. This is off-topic, but one thing i've noticed about Greenville is there's never any spray paint graffiti on buildings and other places like you see in Atlanta, which is a very good thing. :)

I expect to see more class-A office space enter the CBD soon. The current vacancy rate among that sector is extremely low right now, and the demand is very high. Overall, the downtown office market is experiencing low vacancy rates, so I am positive at least a few of these larger projects will eventually get underway. It takes time. Don't lose heart. :)

Greenville Office Market Trends - 2nd Quarter 2006 (http://www.greenvilleonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060813/BUSINESS/608130332/1003/) (.pdf)

Downtown Greenville remains Upstate's magnet for Offices (http://www.greenvilleonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060813/BUSINESS/608130332/1003/) - Article on GreenvilleOnline.com

This belongs here, not in the Peacock Hotel thread. Thanks for telling me Skyliner that I posted it in the wrong place:

-New lost-cost air carrier; most likely either Jet-Blue or Southwest is coming to Greenville-Spartanburg International Airport. Full announcement to be made tomorrow. More info about this can be found here: http://www.greenvilleonline.com/app...SINESS/60823003

Here is the airline company:

Allegiant Air (http://www.allegiantair.com/)

And here is the route map:

http://www.allegiantair.com/aaRouteMap.php

Fairly extensive. Looks like they use the format of flying into secondary airports near large cities to keep the cost lower.....Bellingham for Seattle, Sanford for Orlando, Ft. Collins from Denver, etc.

As well as the originating GSP passengers, I bet they are banking that their low fares will pull some from Charlotte. With US Airways being so dominant in Charlotte, it's fares are pretty high for a large city, except on routes where US Airways competes with AirTran.

and here is g-man back on SSC after being unable to get on this website for a while until I got some help on how to get on the back way.

and here is g-man back on SSC after being unable to get on this website for a while until I got some help on how to get on the back way.
I couldn't get on until today either (just going in the front way... haha)

I heard SSC got a new server or something. Just glad it's finally fixed now.

Good news. Timken has decided to add more jobs than originally planned for it's new research facility at CU-ICAR. Story link below:

http://www.greenvilleonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060829/BUSINESS/608290334

Noticed today that several phases of Verdae are underway. Signs and renderings are up along several of the streets. Didn't have my camera or I would have snapped a few. This is going to be a lot of development to watch.....it will keep us busy! :)

Yeah, those are nice signs they put up right after the announcement was made in late July. I haven't been by there in the last couple of weeks. Has actual construction started on any of it yet, gsupstate? :)

Yeah, those are nice signs they put up right after the announcement was made in late July. I haven't been by there in the last couple of weeks. Has actual construction started on any of it yet, gsupstate? :)
I'll snap some photos this weekend. Site prep has definitely started on the park area and the initial housing phase.

Thanks, man. Also, signs are now up next to Greenville Mall on the Woodruff Rd. side for Magnolia Park Town Center.

Thanks, man. Also, signs are now up next to Greenville Mall on the Woodruff Rd. side for Magnolia Park Town Center.
Heard today that demo of the old mall is suppose to start on September 28th.

Hey, where are the Verdae pics you promised and good timing seeing how I just uploaded this pic; notice the website listed:

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/house050.jpg

Also, a test piece of glass is now up on the parking garage office tower at ICAR facing Millennium Blvd. or whatever it's called and I didn't realize the rail-road track going through ICAR/Verdae was still in use:

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/house045.jpg

Oops, I forgot to post these here too:

Riverplace Fountain:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/house021.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/house023.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/house024.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/house025.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/house026.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/house027.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/house028.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/house011.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/house029.jpg

Field House at West End:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/house030.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/house031.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/house032.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/house033.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/house034.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/house020.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/house018.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/house015.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/house013.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/house006.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/house010.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/house009.jpg

West End Coffee:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/house019.jpg

Terrace at Riverplace starting to peak above the skyline:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/house017.jpg

Rest of Main St. is now open (hopefully those power lines get buried or they come down during the next ice storm):
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/house008.jpg

Developer Tom Croft, who has already developed two condominium projects downtown, is mulling a 10-story, 60-unit condominium building near RiverPlace in the West End.

FULL STORY (http://www.greenvillenews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060907/NEWS01/60907007)

Wow, I didn't realize that RT. Thanks for the great info, man. :)

Hopefully, this gets approved by the DPC and at least 75% of the condos are sold. Also, I hope the prices of the condos are what he says they will be. At those prices, the condos should be a breeze to sell, just like the Terrace at Riverplace condos were and those cost more too. :)

Developer Tom Croft, who has already developed two condominium projects downtown, is mulling a 10-story, 60-unit condominium building near RiverPlace in the West End.

FULL STORY (http://www.greenvillenews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060907/NEWS01/60907007)
Thanks RT!
I'm not sure I'm understanding the issue of "scale and height". I mean, The Camperdown was approved at 14 floors and it's in West End, so what's the deal with this building, it's only 10 floors?

I'm not sure why some of the members of the DPC are making an issue of this either, gsupstate. The proposed building isn't in the West End Historic District, so hopefully it shouldn't be a problem for it to pass. The Camperdown Condos and Riverplace is also not in the West End Historic District. This building isn't too tall, it's too short. Any taller though and they might not approve of it for some stupid reason. Hopefully, they pass it though and it gets built. :)

To: Neighborhood Association Representatives, registered email recipients, and owners of property located within 150 feet of one of the following applications
From: Bryan Wood, Zoning Administrator
Subject: Upcoming Applications for the Board of Zoning Appeals
Date: September 8, 2006

The City of Greenville Board of Zoning Appeals will hold Public Hearings for the purpose of considering the following applications. The meeting will be held on Thursday, September 21, 2006 at 4:00 p.m. in the 1st floor meeting room at City Hall. (Note: Items are listed in the order they will appear on the agenda.)

A 06-03. Appeal of the Zoning Administrator's decision that the property at 107 Frank Street is being operated as a boarding house in violation of its RM-1 zoning classification, and must cease such operation. The appellant is Amy Parham (864 335-9923).

S 06-12. Special exception to allow a community development center associated with Mountain View Baptist Church at the corner of Cagle and Temple Streets, zoned R-6, Single Family Residential District (TMS # 54-8-3, 54-8-4, 54-8-4.1, & 54-8-4.2). The applicant is Stacey Mills (233-1923).

S 06-13. Special exception to allow a bar/restaurant at 115 N. Brown St., zoned C-4, Central Business District (TMS # 1-6-10). The applicant is Brian Doiron (233-2804 x 13).

S 06-14. Special exception to allow renovations/ reconfiguration of the Cleveland Street YMCA, at 721 Cleveland Street, zoned RM-2, Multi-family Residential District. (TMS # 67.6-3-10). The applicant is Earle Hungerford (242-2033).

S 06-15. Special exception to change a nonconforming doctor's office to a nonconforming employment service office at 402 Ansel Street, zoned RM-1, Multi-family residential district. (TMS # 82-2-19). The applicant is Ernest Wideman (271-2012).

S 06-16. Special exception to allow a bar/restaurant at 7 W. Washington St., zoned C-4, Central Business District (TMS # 1-3-12). The applicant is Neelu Matai (627-4311).

V 06-20. Variance to reduce the minimum required parking for an office development to 2.8 spaces per 1,000 square feet of building area for property at 68 Pointe Circle (TMS #284-1-9.28). The applicant is Troy Gilreath (505-0898).

S 05-03. Request to modify the Order of the Board of Zoning Appeals regarding the Special Exception allowing a bar/lounge at 221 N. Main St., zoned C-4 Central Business District. (TMS # 2-6-23). The applicant is Kelley Hagerty (444-3276).

You are welcome to review documents relating to these applications before the public hearing. These documents are available in the Zoning Office on the 4th floor of City Hall, 206 South Main Street, Greenville, between 8:00 am and 5:00 pm, Monday through Friday. Additionally you may call the Zoning Office at (864) 467-4476 for more information on these applications. You may speak for or against an application at the Public Hearing, or you may submit written comments prior to noon on the date of the meeting to Bryan Wood, Zoning Administrator, PO Box 2207, Greenville, SC 29602, or by fax at (864) 467-5715, or by email at woodbr@greatergreenville.com. Please reference the application number on all correspondence.

I have just received confirmation that the Camperdown Condos currently has 22 condo units under reservation.

I have just received confirmation that the Camperdown Condos currently has 22 condo units under reservation.

Remind me, what is the total needed to begin construction? 35-40?

45-50, unfortunately.

45-50, unfortunately.

Based on that, then, I don't think this project will ever happen. Seriously, I think we can consider this a great project with bad timing and/or poor strategy. To be so far away from construction after two years is very telling. Our only hope is if the developer gets desperate and reduces the price. I do not think that is likely. Another option they should have considered before was an auction. I do not think that is likely at this point either.

The other thing to consider is that the longer the project stays in limbo, the greater the chance that some of the people who have committed to purchase a unit will back out.

All I can say is that if that condo project next to Riverplace is approved, which I hope it is, the Camperdown is going to have a lot more competition. I think this will start a lot sooner than most people think though, due to the fact that people who have reserved a condo for the Camperdown haven't backed out yet. If this thing weren't going to start in the next 6 months, more people would of backed out by now.

...And now on to some pics I took today of ICAR and Millennium Campus.

Millennium Campus-

Hubbell lighting headquarters:
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ICAR-

Timken:
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Parking Garage:
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Campbell Graduate Center:
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Great photo update of the progress at ICAR and Millenium Campus! :okay: Thanks g-man!

I have just received an email from Bob Ellis that said the Pinnacle on Main is going to start towards the end of this month or the beginning of October. He also said though that there is still a lot of work to be done before construction begins.

I didn't realize Renaissance Place was going to consist of seven, 5-story buildings, unless it's a typo: http://www.hines.com/property/detail.aspx?id=1872

The Brio Condos:

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International flavor to spice up downtown. Three restaurants planned. Two for the West End and one at Riverplace. More info: http://www.greenvilleonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060911/BUSINESS/60911005

First Verdae newsletter: http://mail.google.com/mail/?view=att&disp=attd&attid=0.1&th=10d9f518523cda78

I didn't realize Renaissance Place was going to consist of seven, 5-story buildings, unless it's a typo: http://www.hines.com/property/detail.aspx?id=1872

This will create some nice low- to mid-rise density. Remind me where this project will be located, because the link you provided seems to suggest that it is near the intersection of Church and Beattie. Is that right?

This will create some nice low- to mid-rise density. Remind me where this project will be located, because the link you provided seems to suggest that it is near the intersection of Church and Beattie. Is that right?

Unfortunately, it's nowhere near downtown. It's off of Pleasantburg near BJU (where the old Play it Again Sports and Lizard's Thicket used to be).

GPATS summer 2006 survey: http://www.greenvilleplanning.com/land_development/Newsletter_Summer06.pdf

Greenville County Long Range Transportation Plan-Bike Routes: http://www.greenvilleplanning.com/transportation_planning/Bike_Routes/Bike%20Routes.pdf

I don't know if this is true or not, but i'm looking at a rendering right now of that proposed building by KDS Properties that was supposed to be built at the intersection of Main and McBee and it shows that the building is going to house a Starbuck's, J Crew, B Dalton, and Kinko's on the 1st floor next to McBee Avenue.

Ignore that last post. I have just received an email from Nancy Whitworth that said that the building at Main and McBee is officially dead. However, she also said that something else could be coming to that site soon. She couldn't give me details though.

Ignore that last post. I have just received an email from Nancy Whitworth that said that the building at Main and McBee is officially dead. However, she also said that something else could be coming to that site soon. She couldn't give me details though.
Well, the previous post is quite exciting if that was indeed the case. That's be a great addition to downtown's shopping, BUT just because the project is dead, doesn't mean that the tenants aren't looking still... Hopefully we will hear something in the next year...? Is there not a deadline for this site?

I don't know if this is true or not, but i'm looking at a rendering right now of that proposed building by KDS Properties that was supposed to be built at the intersection of Main and McBee and it shows that the building is going to house a Starbuck's, J Crew, B Dalton, and Kinko's on the 1st floor next to McBee Avenue.

That's an old, old, old rendering. Those stores were just examples for the rendering, too, not actual tenants that were lined up by the developer.

Unfortunately, it's nowhere near downtown. It's off of Pleasantburg near BJU (where the old Play it Again Sports and Lizard's Thicket used to be).

Okay, I remember that now. This project will be great for that area and hopefully help spur redevelopment along Pleasantburg. :)

I have just been informed by KDS Properties that the Main at McBee project is NOT dead, but just put on hold. They also told me they hope to start construction of it in the next 18-24 months. The reason construction hasn't started yet is due to not enough tenants leasing out shop spaces.

I have just been informed by KDS Properties that the Main at McBee project is NOT dead, but just put on hold. They also told me they hope to start construction of it in the next 18-24 months. The reason construction hasn't started yet is due to not enough tenants leasing out shop spaces.
:bash: everytime...

REINSTATE G-MAN430 TO URBANPLANET, METRO'M.

^ oooh, he banned you, too?

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^ oooh, he banned you, too?

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It's his favorite pasttime.

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Yes.

REALITY CHECK FOR ICAR.

One of the best quotes i've heard in a long time:

"I think hydrogen is deader than disco, and all it needs to do now is lay down."

-Dan Neil,
Los Angeles Times auto critic

I sure hope to god, ICAR is not going to be about mostly hydrogen research. If it is, they are going to fail tremendously. If you don't believe me, go watch the movie "who killed the electric car" and look at the 5 miracles that must happen for hydrogen fuel cells to be successful in a car. Two miracles that jumped out to me was that each hydrogen car produced so far cost around 1 million dollars. Would you pay 1 million dollars for a car? Don't think so. The other miracle is that hydrogen is really expensive, somewhere around the range of 5-10 dollars a gallon. Would you want to pay that kind of money? Don't think so. Still don't believe me, then read this: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/09/12/eveningnews/main2002959.shtml

BMW to build hydrogen cars. More info: http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/15513703.htm

BMW likely to build new Z2 roadster in South Carolina beginning in 2010. More info: http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/15513705.htm

Some news about South Financial Headquarters: http://www.greenvilleonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060914/NEWS01/609140344

Email from the shopping center group about the development at the intersection of Garlington Road/Pelham Road/I-85 that is possibly NOT dead like btoy on urbanplanet said:

Jacob,

It was my understanding that the landowner did change his mind about 60 days ago. I have recently understood that the developers, Crescent Resources and Core Properties which my former partner Kivett Williams has just gone to work for, have gotten the landowner back to the table and have the property under contract again and are working with SuperTarget for that site, but the SuperTarget deal is not finalized yet.

Andy

More info about the project listed above can be found here: http://tscg.net21.com/pdf/pelhammarketingpackage.pdf

REALITY CHECK FOR ICAR.

One of the best quotes i've heard in a long time:

"I think hydrogen is deader than disco, and all it needs to do now is lay down."

-Dan Neil,
Los Angeles Times auto critic

I sure hope to god, ICAR is not going to be about mostly hydrogen research. If it is, they are going to fail tremendously. If you don't believe me, go watch the movie "who killed the electric car" and look at the 5 miracles that must happen for hydrogen fuel cells to be successful in a car. Two miracles that jumped out to me was that each hydrogen car produced so far cost around 1 million dollars. Would you pay 1 million dollars for a car? Don't think so. The other miracle is that hydrogen is really expensive, somewhere around the range of 5-10 dollars a gallon. Would you want to pay that kind of money? Don't think so. Still don't believe me, then read this: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/09/12/eveningnews/main2002959.shtml

Based on what you posted, are you going to trust:

A.) An auto critic from the Los Angeles Times, or

B.) The cumulative intelligence of executives at BMW, Michelin, Clemson University, Microsoft, Sun Microsystems, etc.?

I don't know much about hydrogen-powered cars, but I do know that many people seem very excited about its potential and feel that it is worth researching and looking into. Whether the experts are right remains to be seen, but if Clemson/BMW/Michelin et al. decide to go for it, I trust them fully. I hope you realize that they would not proceed on a whim. Rather, they would do so only after a great deal of research, forecasting, and planning.

What one dud in a freakin' newspaper has to say about it should not matter.

It wasn't just one dude who said that. The people in the movie "who killed the electric car" and the people on CBS News said the same thing. I sure hope it works out in the end and doesn't turn out to be a huge failure that costs these companies billions and billions of dollars.

Palmetto Bank to build new headquarters downtown. More info: http://greenvilleonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060922/BUSINESS/609220335

Here is the massive announcement we were anticipating! Greenville is contemplating moving all county offices to a new multistory building at Magnolia Park Town Center, which would leave the current space wide open for a massive mixed-use development that would "change the face of downtown." A major hotel is part of the deal, if the move is approved by Council. More info: http://greenvilleonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060917/NEWS01/609170332

Here is the massive announcement we were anticipating! Greenville is contemplating moving all county offices to a new multistory building at Magnolia Park Town Center, which would leave the current space wide open for a massive mixed-use development that would "change the face of downtown." A major hotel is part of the deal, if the move is approved by Council. More info: http://greenvilleonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060917/NEWS01/609170332

"Massive" is quite a hyperbolic statement for a project that is only being contmplated, isn't it, Gman?

No, not really. Massive is an understatement.

G-man, your enthusiasm is amusing, lol.

Ok? I bet RT and Skyliner would agree with me that this is "massive" news and will be a "massive" development at county square, if it goes through.

Skyliner should post that pic here showing the eviction notice to the Camperdown Condos/Marchant Co. just to show how stupid they were not to have an auction like Riverplace did. I'm not saying the project is dead, but it is well on its way there at this rate. :bash:

Ok? I bet RT and Skyliner would agree with me that this is "massive" news and will be a "massive" development at county square, if it goes through.

I think waccamatt's point was that it's a little too early to be talking about a "massive development" when they haven't even worked out the details yet (e.g., the county hasn't even officially agreed to move to Magnolia Park Town Center).

This will certainly be a "huge" and "massive" development IF the particulars are worked out, but several key agreements must take place before we're to that point. Hopefully it will happen. :)

Ok? I bet RT and Skyliner would agree with me that this is "massive" news and will be a "massive" development at county square, if it goes through.

G-man, you answered your own question by the use of the little word, "if". When construction begins then you can talk about it being a "massive" development, but as presented I don't consider it to be a massive development. When you use extreme hyperbole to describe good-sized, but not huge projects, it is similar to crying wolf. A "massive" project would be a 40 story mixed use development with a hotel, office building, retail and condo's. Right now I don't know of any proposed or under construction projects in South Carolina that I would call massive. The project you posted about would be a nice development, but I think that when you exaggerate the size, it sounds kind of juvenile. That is just my opinion and I really am glad that you get excited about developments, but the over-the-top descriptions take away from your posts, in my opinion.

First, why do you care soo much whether I think this project is massive or not. I think it is and that all that matters. It's my own damn opinion. Second, you say there aren't any massive developments going on in South Carolina right now. What about ICAR and Verdae in Greenville and Hard Rock Park in Myrtle Beach. Those seem pretty massive to me. And third, why does a massive project have to be a 40-story mixed use development. Can't a massive project just be something that's large in size?

I think waccamatt's point was that it's a little too early to be talking about a "massive development" when they haven't even worked out the details yet (e.g., the county hasn't even officially agreed to move to Magnolia Park Town Center).

This will certainly be a "huge" and "massive" development IF the particulars are worked out, but several key agreements must take place before we're to that point. Hopefully it will happen. :)

What is with you guys? Are you purposely trying to put the fire out on this project or something? Geez. It's not an "if" anymore; trust me. They are going to move the offices over to Magnolia Park. Maybe if you read the new Magnolia Park sign over the old Greenville Mall one next to I-385, you would learn something. Also, everybody in the city and county council are for this, so there's no reason it won't go through.

This *should* be massive when it takes shape, but that will take time. We've got to see the Greenville Mall torn down, the tower go up, the County moved, and County Square demolished first. We've got years ahead of us. But it's a good thing. The downtown market needs some time before another BIG project hits. Riverplace and McBee should be done by this time hopefully and out of its way.

Question: Church Street is going to be a BIG divider between the Midtown project and County Square's redevelopment. Do you guys have any ideas on how to connect the two? Church Street is too dangerous for pedestrians to cross, even at crosswalks.

I agree GvilleSC, except I thought Mid-Town Center was dead seeing how Hughes took it off their website. If it isn't dead and it gets built, then could build a skybridge or a footbridge like the one that goes over Pleasantburg Drive. Also, is it true the Peacock Hotel and Spa won't begin until the end of October now?

Sorry for diverting from the topic, but I have a question: When was Main Street revitalized in order to look as nice as it does today? What was the retail/destinations status prior to that? I am trying to figure out if DT Greenville went through the same "dead period" that DT Raleigh went through from the the 70's up until recently. Reopening, or revitalizing a street is not enough and it takes time, but how long must be hard to estimate. I think Greenville's Main Street is something to model every main street after.

You are dead on RaleighNC. Greenville's revitalization first started in I think it was 1982 when the Hyatt was built and they shrinked Main St. from 4 to 2 lanes and added sidewalks, parking, lights, and trees on the side.

Great story on all of the developments being built and coming downtown: http://www.wyff4.com/news/9938733/detail.html

Sorry for diverting from the topic, but I have a question: When was Main Street revitalized in order to look as nice as it does today? What was the retail/destinations status prior to that? I am trying to figure out if DT Greenville went through the same "dead period" that DT Raleigh went through from the the 70's up until recently. Reopening, or revitalizing a street is not enough and it takes time, but how long must be hard to estimate. I think Greenville's Main Street is something to model every main street after.

This link (http://www.greatergreenville.com/development/dt_rev.asp) should help.

Rail-to-trails and Piazza Bergamo update: http://www.upstatelink.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060926/LINK/609260303

CREDIT TO GSA BUSINESS:

While developer Mark Kent continues to move ahead with plans for a luxury hotel in downtown Greenville, the fate of an adjacent property remains up in the air. Kent and business partner Grant Peacock plan to build the Peacock Hotel and Spa on the corner of Spring Street and McBee Avenue. The former Kimbrell's Furniture building at 113 S. Main St. abuts the hotel property.

Kent, president of Keystone Properties LLC, purchased the Kimbrell's building in 2002. Shortly thereafter, Kimbrell's decided to relocate its business to a shopping center near Pleasantburg Drive. Several ideas have been proposed for the Main Street site, but none have come to fruition. Kent says he doesn't currently have any plans for the site. "Everything is under wraps," Kent says. "We want to finish the hotel and then look at potential projects."

The city Design and Preservation Commission rejected plans in 2004 to demolish the Kimbrell's building and build a multi-screen movie theater in its place. Commission members denied a second request filed a year later that would have demolished the building to make way for a public park with a mixed-use building behind it.

Last year, developers won preliminary city approval to demolish the building and replace it with a similar-looking building as part of a plaza and townhome project. Kent says he planned to include the Kimbrell's site in the Peacock Hotel and Spa development. "We originally wanted the condos to go there, but we became aware it would be easier to put the condos vertically on top of the hotel," Kent says. "When we started looking at the cost per square foot, it would have cost almost double to put the condos there."

The 11-story Peacock Hotel and Spa will consist of 116 rooms, an upscale restaurant and full-service spa. The property will also contain meeting rooms, a boardroom and a ballroom with capacity for 150 people. Kent hopes to break ground by the end of the year and wrap up construction in 18 months. "Presently we're doing fundraising efforts," Kent says. "We're hoping to get some local investors and out-of-state investors."

Kent have been active in redeveloping downtown Greenville for several years. He purchased and restored the nearby American Cigar Factory and Chamber of Commerce buildings. It is unclear what will take place at the Kimbrell's location. Any future use of the property would likely result in preserving the 88-year-old building's facade, which has been a particular point of debate with the Design and Preservation Committee.

Greenville Mayor Knox White says the city believes the building would be an ideal mixed-use development. "It's a great site because it's on Main Street," White says. "If you look at Main Street, there's not a lot of frontage available." Robin Prince, a member of the Design and Preservation Commission and a local architect, says he is hopeful the Kimbrell's site will be an important part of downtown's redevelopment. "I would like to see something that energizes Main Street and adds a lot of vitality to it," Prince says.

New Cleveland St. YMCA. Go to greenvilleonline's frontpage to see rendering: http://greenvilleonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060926/NEWS01/60926007

CREDIT TO GSA BUSINESS:

While developer Mark Kent continues to move ahead with plans for a luxury hotel in downtown Greenville, the fate of an adjacent property remains up in the air. Kent and business partner Grant Peacock plan to build the Peacock Hotel and Spa on the corner of Spring Street and McBee Avenue. The former Kimbrell's Furniture building at 113 S. Main St. abuts the hotel property.

Kent, president of Keystone Properties LLC, purchased the Kimbrell's building in 2002. Shortly thereafter, Kimbrell's decided to relocate its business to a shopping center near Pleasantburg Drive. Several ideas have been proposed for the Main Street site, but none have come to fruition. Kent says he doesn't currently have any plans for the site. "Everything is under wraps," Kent says. "We want to finish the hotel and then look at potential projects."

The city Design and Preservation Commission rejected plans in 2004 to demolish the Kimbrell's building and build a multi-screen movie theater in its place. Commission members denied a second request filed a year later that would have demolished the building to make way for a public park with a mixed-use building behind it.

Last year, developers won preliminary city approval to demolish the building and replace it with a similar-looking building as part of a plaza and townhome project. Kent says he planned to include the Kimbrell's site in the Peacock Hotel and Spa development. "We originally wanted the condos to go there, but we became aware it would be easier to put the condos vertically on top of the hotel," Kent says. "When we started looking at the cost per square foot, it would have cost almost double to put the condos there."

The 11-story Peacock Hotel and Spa will consist of 116 rooms, an upscale restaurant and full-service spa. The property will also contain meeting rooms, a boardroom and a ballroom with capacity for 150 people. Kent hopes to break ground by the end of the year and wrap up construction in 18 months. "Presently we're doing fundraising efforts," Kent says. "We're hoping to get some local investors and out-of-state investors."

Kent have been active in redeveloping downtown Greenville for several years. He purchased and restored the nearby American Cigar Factory and Chamber of Commerce buildings. It is unclear what will take place at the Kimbrell's location. Any future use of the property would likely result in preserving the 88-year-old building's facade, which has been a particular point of debate with the Design and Preservation Committee.

Greenville Mayor Knox White says the city believes the building would be an ideal mixed-use development. "It's a great site because it's on Main Street," White says. "If you look at Main Street, there's not a lot of frontage available." Robin Prince, a member of the Design and Preservation Commission and a local architect, says he is hopeful the Kimbrell's site will be an important part of downtown's redevelopment. "I would like to see something that energizes Main Street and adds a lot of vitality to it," Prince says.


Great article. thanks for posting it! It's good to know what's up with the Kimbrell's site. I didn't realize that it was 82 years old-- it sure doesn't look it, that's for sure (architecturally). I still say tear it down though. Keeping the facade works as long as it doesn't hold any potential development back from acheiving greatness...

Umm...it's 88 years old, not 82. I also agree that the Kimbrell's building should be torn down. All, the building does is sit there and be an eye sore, while not producing any economic impact or bringing in taxes for anything. I really liked the movie theater idea. The DPC should be banned and illegal. :bash:

Thanks for the information, guys. It sounds like a great success story for everyone to enjoy. Sorry for creating a distraction from the main topic of the thread.

First, why do you care soo much whether I think this project is massive or not. I think it is and that all that matters. It's my own damn opinion. Second, you say there aren't any massive developments going on in South Carolina right now. What about ICAR and Verdae in Greenville and Hard Rock Park in Myrtle Beach. Those seem pretty massive to me. And third, why does a massive project have to be a 40-story mixed use development. Can't a massive project just be something that's large in size?

It is called an example.

What is with you guys? Are you purposely trying to put the fire out on this project or something? Geez. It's not an "if" anymore; trust me. They are going to move the offices over to Magnolia Park. Maybe if you read the new Magnolia Park sign over the old Greenville Mall one next to I-385, you would learn something.

Maybe I would read the new Magnolia Park sign over the old Greenville Mall sign if I lived in Greenville! In case you missed it, I am a student in Charleston and I do not get to ride around Greenville after school to look at random stuff.

And aren't you the last person here who should be telling other people to "learn something?" :lol:

It's not an "if" anymore; trust me. They are going to move the offices over to Magnolia Park. Maybe if you read the new Magnolia Park sign over the old Greenville Mall one next to I-385, you would learn something. Also, everybody in the city and county council are for this, so there's no reason it won't go through.

But it's not yet definite, is it? I'm just asking, not trying to start anything. You sound really confident about it; you must have an inside source or something.

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Maybe I would read the new Magnolia Park sign over the old Greenville Mall sign if I lived in Greenville! In case you missed it, I am a student in Charleston and I do not get to ride around Greenville after school to look at random stuff.

And aren't you the last person here who should be telling other people to "learn something?" :lol:

Haha, I totally forgot you are in Charleston right now. Very true about me being the last person who should be telling other people to learn something. :lol:

Backside rendering of Peacock Hotel and Spa (Sorry for the small size; i'll try to make it bigger): http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g112/sharp222us/9941530_80X60-2.jpg

New email from Bob Ellis on Pinnacle on Main:

Jacob,
It is anticipated we will complete submission requirements for a grading permit in October and start thereafter. Projected bldg shell construction timeframe is 14 months with interior completion according to Owners personal requirements. Thank you for your interest.

Here is the video of the story they had on WYFF-TV yesterday about the Peacock Hotel and Spa, the Pinnacle on Main, and McBee Station. Notice the story also includes new renderings of the Peacock like the one that shows the backside of the building: http://www.wyff4.com/video/9941551/index.html

That was an excellent video and the report should generate enthusiasm among Greenville residents. I think it will only be a matter of time before more and more such projects appear all over. All it takes is a great public-private cooperation - Greenville seems to have this component already in place - and a couple of success stories. The rest will come naturally. Thanks for the link, g-man430.

Update on Pinnacle on Main: As of today, the developers now have enough financing to begin construction. Currently, The Ellis Group Architecture Firm is in the process of getting a grading permit. It is anticipated and scheduled that they will have this permit sometime in October. Construction is to begin immediately after they receive the permit.

Greer considers seceding from Spartanburg County. Could be a good boost in population and economy for Greenville County if the deal goes through. BMW would not be included in the deal though. More info: http://goupstate.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060928/NEWS/609280330/1062

*Update pics taken earlier today by me*

Field House at West End-

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McBee Station-

Scafolding (spelling) to lay brick for Publix building:
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Two cranes:
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Foundation wall and part of site:
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Terrace at Riverplace-

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Two pics of the day-

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Demolition of the old Service Merchandise store has begun at Verdae Marketfair. It will be replaced by a Super Bi-Lo. Here are some pics I took today of the progress:

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n68/cdude9409/Picture035.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n68/cdude9409/Picture036.jpg

Peacock Hotel and Spa groundbreaking put on hold until mid-to-late November. More info: http://greenvilleonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060929/BUSINESS/609290332/1068/NEWS01

you know, i always liked service merchandise, back in its prime.

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The Greenville City Council will consider the sale of the city plaza at Main and Broad streets as well as a development agreement with Windsor Aughtry Co. Inc. to develop a mixed-use project that is to include a hotel. More info on this story: http://www.greenvilleonline.com/apps...WS01/610020367

Here is a story from May 5th of this year that tells you more about it: http://greenvilleonline.com/apps/pbc...NESS/605050336 (Windsor/Aughtry will get the contract most likely)

Here is a story from April 23rd of this year that also talks about it: http://greenvilleonline.com/apps/pbc...NESS/604230323

you know, i always liked service merchandise, back in its prime.

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All of those old catalog showroom places have gone by the wayside...Service Merchandise, Key Wholesalers, Sam Solomon, Gran Jewel, Grendels, etc...:runaway:

The Greenville City Council will consider the sale of the city plaza at Main and Broad streets as well as a development agreement with Windsor Aughtry Co. Inc. to develop a mixed-use project that is to include a hotel. More info on this story: http://www.greenvilleonline.com/apps...WS01/610020367

Here is a story from May 5th of this year that tells you more about it: http://greenvilleonline.com/apps/pbc...NESS/605050336 (Windsor/Aughtry will get the contract most likely)

Here is a story from April 23rd of this year that also talks about it: http://greenvilleonline.com/apps/pbc...NESS/604230323

None of these links work. Would you mind trying again?

I found one of the stories, about the Greenville City Council meeting tomorrow:

http://www.greenvilleonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061002/NEWS01/610020367/1004/NEWS01

Thanks for telling me Greenville the links didn't work. Here is the one from April 23rd: http://greenvilleonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060423/BUSINESS/604230323

Here is the one from May 5th: http://greenvilleonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060505/BUSINESS/605050336

I sure do love those first three words in this article: http://greenvilleonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061003/NEWS01/610030392 "Several downtown developments" :)

Email about city hall site:

"Council will be taking action this afternoon on a proposed contract for
sale and development agreement on the site. If Council proceeds, this
will just be the first reading of an ordinance to sell. It will
require a second reading to finalize which, if proceeding, would be at
the next regularly scheduled council meeting.

The specifics of the actual development would be finalized over a due
diligence period and cannot say specifically when that might happen.
Generally the first step in a development project is to gain control of
a site, then specific designs and programming of the space can
commence.

The action by council obviously is public, so once taken the
announcement of the developer is made. Details of the design, etc, may
take some time. Hope that helps."

-Nancy Whitworth, City of Greenville Economic Director

Email about city hall site:

Jacob,

I understand that you are interested in receiving a copy of the plans for the proposed project. I am not sure when they will be available, as the preliminary design will be modified by City Council during the preliminary design phase. Once the Developer and City have a mutually agreeable design, then we should be able to release something to the public.

Charles S. Reyner, Jr., CCIM


Windsor/Aughtry Company, Inc.

PO Box 16449

Greenville, SC 29606

:) Fort Wayne noticing and taking notes from Greenville:

http://jordan.fortwayne.com/ns/projects/providence/text/providence0.php

http://jordan.fortwayne.com/ns/projects/providence/text/greenville.pdf

I have received word that if the city hall site vote passes tonight, it will be in the paper tomorrow. I'm not sure if there will be info about what the development will look like or not.

:) Fort Wayne noticing and taking notes from Greenville:

http://jordan.fortwayne.com/ns/projects/providence/text/providence0.php

http://jordan.fortwayne.com/ns/projects/providence/text/greenville.pdf

WOW! The pictures that accompany the second link are AMAZING! WOW, what a beautiful city we have!

New hotel for downtown Greenville: http://www.greenvilleonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061003/BUSINESS/61003005

New hotel for downtown Greenville: http://www.greenvilleonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061003/BUSINESS/61003005

Why all the duplicate posts, g?

I posted that story once on here and once in the hotel construction thread. If that's the duplicate posts your talking about Waccamatt, then the reason I posted it in both places is because this is the "Greenville development news" thread and that is the "hotel construction" thread and this story involves both and that's why I posted it in both places. Hopefully that clears up any confusion. Here is an updated story today on the new mixed-use project that is to include a hotel that I posted yesterday: http://www.greenvilleonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061004/BUSINESS/610040405

Rails-to-Trails: http://greenvilleonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061003/SPORTS/610030377/1038

I have received word that the Pinnacle on Main developers are going to put up a webcam on the site as soon as construction begins. :)

:) Greenville officially is getting a Kroc Center. More info: http://www.wyff4.com/news/10009045/detail.html

Greenville and Charleston have the highest hotel occupancy rates in South Carolina. More info: http://www.greatergreenville.com/visitors/reports/declodge05.pdf

Rails-to-trails phase 1 in Greenville opens today. More info to come.

HUGE tourism plan announced for Greenville. Most likely it will pass and is getting wide-spread approval. More info:

http://greenvilleforward.com/Main%20Pages/TRAC.htm

http://www.wyff4.com/news/10048032/detail.html

http://www.greenvilleonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061011/NEWS01/610110404

Sign with rendering and info now up on the Peacock Hotel and Spa site. I will post a pic of it on here tomorrow. :)

Rails-to-trails phase 1 now open. More info:
http://greenvilleonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061013/NEWS01/610130346/1004

Peacock Hotel and Spa sign:
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http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n68/cdude9409/Picture041.jpg

:) Fall for Greenville begins at 5 PM today:
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Cool. I thought the hotel was going to have 2 spires?

It was originally going to have 2 spires, but they changed it to one for some reason.

Too bad. Two would have looked better IMO.

Yeah, tell me about. If the developers don't like how it looks after it's built, they could easily add a second spire to the building if they wanted too.

:) This is a GREAT idea and I support it as does most of county council and area residents: http://www.greenvilleonline.com/assets/gif/BS455741014.GIF

http://greenvilleonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061014/NEWS01/610140323

I REALLY hope that College Street can be sunk and the cool pedestrian walkways with condos, etc can happen downtown. THis is EXACTLY what Heritage Green needs and would be such a nice compliment to the West End's anchor, Falls Park. I wonder how likely this is to happen before 2010?

Well, parts of the project has a completition date of 2009, while other parts have a completition date of 2016. GvilleSC, the part your talking about is part of the 10-year plan unfortunately, but if this passes which it most likely will, you'll probably see it done sometime over the next 5 years, depending on how much money they get and how fast they can get it.

...and what do they mean by "sunk?" Do they mean actually sinking the street or is it just an expression for meaning something else? If they mean actually sinking, how do they do that and what is the purpose and point of it?

...and what do they mean by "sunk?" Do they mean actually sinking the street or is it just an expression for meaning something else? If they mean actually sinking, how do they do that and what is the purpose and point of it?

I think that means actually sinks it below the sidewalk level. I think it would acheive a "safer" feel on the sidewalk being farther removed from the wide street and heavy traffic. I think it would work wonders and be well worth the money.

Now it makes sense. Thanks for the info, GvilleSC.

Thanks for the pics, g-man. It really helps us, who are not familiar with Greenville, to place the hotel in the skyline better. Nice pics :okay:

Thanks, man. Here is what happened to the Terrace at Riverplace during Fall for Greenville Friday night:
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http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n68/cdude9409/Picture059.jpg

It caught fire? Well, better now than later, after it is finished :(

What happened was something electrical on the bottom floor caught on fire, but luckily it was a small fire and no damage was done to the building itself. They also got it out very quickly.

This is very good event worth attending if only it didn't cost $25.00 dollars: http://www.greenvillechamber.org/events.asp?content=Events&pageid=45&navtreeid=0&recid=45

New shopping center coming to Greenville to include Super Target. We at urbanplanet have known about this coming for at least a year now though. More info: http://greenvilleonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061018/BUSINESS/61018009

I'll let you decide:

Jacob,

Regarding the Pinnacle-on-Main we are moving forward, ever so slowly. We have met with our engineers and City regarding grading permits. We have another meeting scheduled next week. The City has a new storm water policy, passed in September, regarding water quality which will require an additional water treatment facility which we want to incorporate with our storm water recycling and green roof system. We are spending the extra effort to have this building certified as LEED Silver. That is not easy or cheap but it would be the first high-rise in South Carolina to be LEED Certified, especially Silver, not to mention the energy efficiency and environmental quality. In fact, very few high rises achieve LEED certification. We want to start construction as soon as anyone, but we want to do it right. We have spent a lot of time and study to make this a signature building and we believe it will be worth the wait.

Thank you for your interest.

Bob Ellis

SITE PLAN for shopping center to include Super Target: http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n68/cdude9409/rezoningtargetconcept22D.jpg

To: neighborhood association representatives, owners of property located within 150 feet of the following applications, registered email recipients
From: Brennan C. Townsend, Esq., Development Planner
Subject: Upcoming Applications for the Design & Preservation Commission
Date: October 18, 2006

The City of Greenville Design & Preservation Commission (DPC) will hold a Public Hearing on Thursday, November 2, 2006, at 4:00 p.m. in the 1st floor meeting room at City Hall, for the purpose of considering the following applications:

CA 06-68 A request by the Johnston Design Group for approval of final materials and plaque design for the Sterling Square monument at the NW corner of W. Washington St. and N. Main St. in the Central Business District, Pedestrian Zone.

CA 06-139 A request by Matthew and Paula Williams to make exterior changes to and move an historic single-family house from 427 Rutherford Street to property at 310 Lloyd Street, in the Hampton-Pinckney Preservation Overlay District.

CA 06-110 A request by Tom Croft of The Croft Company to demolish existing structures and construct an eight-story condominium building at 121 Rhett Street in the Central Business District, Pedestrian Zone.

CA 06-135 A request by the Johnston Design Group make exterior alterations to an historic structure at 314 Lloyd Street, in the Hampton-Pinckney Preservation Overlay District.

CA 06-136 A request by Greenville Mechanical, LLC to install an exhaust fan at 101 E. Court Street, which is individually listed on the National Register of Historic Places.

CA 06-138 A request by Jason Smith to make changes to the building façade at 125 N. Main Street in the Central Business District, Pedestrian Zone.

CA 06-141 A request by Charles Lachanos to demolish an existing house and construct a nine-unit townhouse development at 236 Rhett Street in the Central Business District, Vehicular Zone.

CA 06-143 A request by Gable Stubbs of Neal Prince and Partners to construct a seven-story mixed-use building at 100 E. Washington Street in the Central Business District, Pedestrian Zone.

You may review documents relating to these applications before the public hearing. These documents are available in the Planning & Development Office on the 4th floor of City Hall, 206 South Main Street, Greenville, between 8:00 am and 5:00 pm, Monday through Friday. Additionally you may call the Planning & Development Office at (864) 467-4476 for more information on these applications. You may speak for or against an application at the Public Hearing, where a total of five minutes will be allotted for all comments in support and a total of five minutes will be allotted for all comments in opposition. Additionally you may submit written comments prior to noon on the date of the meeting to Marie Faircloth, Planning & Development Office, P.O. Box 2207, Greenville, SC 29602, or by fax at (864) 467-5715, or by email at fairclm@greatergreenville.com. Please reference the application number on all correspondence.

Applications for Preliminary Comments may be accepted by the Design and Preservation Commission up to three days before any regular or special meeting, whether or not they are included on the published agenda for such meeting. A revised agenda will be posted at the meeting location at least 24 hours prior to the meeting.