Direct flights to Frankfurt to open ahead of schedule
VNECONOMY updated: 01/06/2005

The national flag carrier, Vietnam Airlines, will officially open its direct flights to Frankfurt, Germany, on June 20, nearly six months ahead of schedule amid the increasing number of passengers from Germany to Viet Nam, an airline official has said.

Pham Ngoc Minh, Deputy General Director of the Vietnam Airlines Corporation, said that German visitors to Viet Nam numbered 70,000 in 2004, an increase of around 70 percent from the previous year.

According to Minh, every week, Vietnam Airlines will initially offer two flights from Ha Noi and one flight from Ho Chi Minh City to Frankfurt and visa versa. So far, all seats on these flights to be in June and July have been booked.

The direct flights will save passengers around five hours in comparison with the existing flights, which require a transit in Russia, Minh added.

Currently, Vietnam Airlines is negotiating with German air carrier Lufthansa to provide code sharing service on the Germany-Vietnam route, scheduled to begin in winter this year.

Minh also revealed that the Viet Nam Civil Aviation Administration is negotiating to open direct flights to the US. It is also in negotiations with Japan, the Republic of Korea, and Taiwan for permission to stop-over in one of their airports before flying to the US, he added.

Source: Vietnam Agency
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Gov’t gives go-ahead for purchase of new Boeing jets
Vietnam’s Prime Minister has approved the purchase of four Boeing 7E7 Dreamliner jets and asked local aviation authorities to further negotiate the deal, local newswire VietnamNet reported Thursday.

The decision was made after discussions between the Cabinet and Vietnam Airlines Corporation, which runs the national flag carrier, VietnamNet said.

Vietnam is expected to ink the contract during the prime minister’s upcoming visit to the U.S. in June.

The PM, thus, urged Vietnam Airlines to further negotiate with Boeing over the contract details.

The wide-body jetliners are scheduled for delivery to Vietnam’s national flag carrier in 2010 as part of Vietnam Airlines’ plan to expand its international traffic.

In late December 2004, Vietnam Airlines signed a contract with leading aircraft maker Airbus to buy 10 narrow-body A321 aircrafts as part of its aircraft fleet expansion program.

by thanhniennwes.com
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Boeing, Microsoft support aviation training
Boeing, Microsoft and Vietnam Airlines have donated laptops to universities in Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh City to support their training of human resources for Vietnam's aviation industry, company official said.

The recipients were the Hanoi University of Technology, the Ho Chi Minh City University of Technology and the American Pacific University in Ho Chi Minh City.

Earlier this year, Boeing granted US$1 million for the construction of the Tan Thong Hoi primary school in Ho Chi Minh City's outlying district of Cu Chi.

Anticipating long-term cooperation with Vietnam, Boeing has been supporting training programs to develop the Vietnamese aviation sector.

by thanhniennews.com

Vietnam Airlines goes for A380?

Hopefully...as a vna speaker said if Vietnam Airlines makes non-stop flights to the USA....just big aircrafts such as A380 and B747 can serve on these flights.

i dont think Vietnam is curretly afford to buy such big airplane though....can Tân Sơn Nhất airport infrastructure big enough for that giant jumbo? ....it would be nice to get one sơon however.

B777 in VNA's fleet has the same range as B747,enough to serve VN-US non-stop flights.

That's the reason why Lufthansa has changed the final destination to Munchen.

Munchen = Munich?

Anyway there isn't any plan yet for Vietnam Airlines to purchase A380 due to the the lack of need and the lack of support infrastructure (ie. airport).

How is the construction of the new terminal of TSN? Will I go through the new one when I visit Vietnam in 2 years?

http://tinypic.com/5ma54i<== this is how TSN airport will look like in the upcoming furute.

TAN SON NHAT AIRPORT'S NEW TERMINAL( CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION, will be completed towards the end of 2006, it will be having all global standard facilities,... 'n is located right next to the existent old terminal...the old int'l terminal will be used for domestic traveling as well!...it's expected to be capable in competing against other int'l airports in the region.)

Facts about the new terminal:
. 3 stories, 92.920m2
. a spacious parking lot in front of the airport, which covers 30.000m2
. automatic ticket booths
. relaxing lounges or waiting halls, as well as restaurants, and free-duty stores, etc.
. 10 carousels
. 8 pairs of tunnels, which will link the terminal gate to the plane
. 8 systems of walking conveyer
. 20 escalators
. 18 elevators
. 24/24 info booth, as well as flight schedule board
. full-served security service
.......

NJOI!

p/s: by the way, the construction of the emblem of HCMC ,on the entrance way to the TSN int'l airport, has been started in the recent months . The construction is expected to be completed before the NATIONAL INDEPENDENT DAY, WHICH IS THE SECOND OF SEPTEMBER this year.
===> REDERING:
http://tinypic.com/5ma5go

another angle of the new terminal

http://img28.echo.cx/img28/7256/air0yr.png

all VNA fleet

B777-200ER (10)
VN-A141 leased (ILFC) ->ACTIVE
VN-A142 leased (ILFC) ->ACTIVE
VN-A143 ->ACTIVE
VN-A144 ->ACTIVE
VN-A145 ->ACTIVE
VN-A146 ->ACTIVE
VN-A147 5 years lease (Ex Aeroflot VP-BAS) ->ACTIVE
VN-A148 5 years lease (Ex Aeroflot VP-BAU) ->ON ORDER
VN-A149 ->ON ORDER
VN-A150 8 years lease ->ON ORDER

B767-300ER (4)
VN-A763 3 years lease (ILFC) ->ACTIVE
VN-A765 ->ACTIVE
VN-A769 ->ACTIVE (Ex Air Europe)
PH-AHY leased from Belgium Exel->ACTIVE
remark:All VNA B767 fleet to be remplaced soon by B787

A321 (17)
VN-A341 ->ACTIVE
VN-A342 ->ACTIVE
VN-A343 ->(STORED) TO ENTER IN SERVICE
VN-A344 ->ACTIVE
VN-A345 ->ACTIVE
VN-A347 ->ACTIVE
VN-A349 ->ACTIVE
VN-A350 ->ON ORDER
VN-A351 ->ON ORDER
VN-A352 ->ON ORDER
VN-A353 ->ON ORDER
VN-A354 ->ON ORDER
VN-A355 ->ON ORDER
VN-A356 ->ON ORDER
VN-A357 ->ON ORDER
VN-A358 ->ON ORDER
VN-A359 ->ON ORDER

A320 (10) all active leased???
S7-ASA
S7-ASB
S7-ASC
S7-ASD
S7-ASE
S7-ASF
S7-ASG
S7-ASH
S7-ASI
S7-ASJ

ATR-72 (9) all active
VN-B202
VN-B204
VN-B208
VN-B206
VN-B248
VN-B246
VN-B210
VN-B212
VN-B214

Fokker-70 all active
VN-A502
VN-A504 remark:the last fokker ever build

B787 4 ON ORDER

I think Noi Bai, Tan Son Nhat and Long Thanh were able to receive the A380 in the near future. Oh...the Chu Lai Airport, too. They were stupid when they expand the NBA/TSN and build the new huge Long Thanh Airport (for 80-100mio passangers a year!!!)without a possibllity for using the A380. Vietnam will still have a tourism and economy boom in 5 years.

hey guys, it's me again. I just flew on a VietnamAirlines plane to Cam ranh, and there took a taxi to Nha Trang. Anyways, I went on a small plane, with propellers instead of jets. Quite a ride, seeing as how I have never been on a plane so small! Someone threw up on the plane right in the middle aisle. GROSS!

The stewardesses were beautiful. ;)

Nha Trang is a beautiful place. I will be here for a few days and then going to Hanoi and then to check out the magical Halong Bay. I will be back in HCMC around the 16th. :)

Sounds like you have a lot of funs..

How are the pictures so far? hahaha

lucky u... enjoy Nha Trang, and go have a drink at the rainbow divers bar, this is where i spent most of my nights in Nha Trang back in 2001!
enjoy!

WASHINGTON, June 21 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- The Boeing Company (NYSE: BA - News) and Vietnam Airlines today signed the firm agreement for the purchase of four Boeing 787-8 Dreamliners by the national airline of Socialist Republic of Vietnam. The signing ceremony, held at the Department of Commerce, included Vietnam Airlines President and CEO Nguyen Xuan Hien and Alan Mulally, president and CEO, Boeing Commercial Airplanes.
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The event was witnessed by Vietnam Prime Minister Phan Van Khai and U.S. Department of Commerce Secretary Carlos M. Gutierrez.

Vietnam Airlines plans for the 787 to be its future mid-sized, twin-aisle jetliner. The new airplanes, which are valued at $500 million at list prices, are scheduled for delivery in 2009 and 2010. The agreement also includes purchase rights for 11 additional airplanes in the 2010 - 2013 time frame.

Vietnam Airlines became the eighth announced customer and a member of the launch team for the 787 in December 2004. Customer announced orders and commitments for the 787 now total 252 airplanes, including 128 under firm contract.

"This is another great step as Boeing and Vietnam Airlines continue to build our strong, long-term working together relationship," said Mulally. "The competitive advantages of the 787 Dreamliner will help Vietnam Airlines continue its incredible growth and the development of its global route structure."

Vietnam Airlines plans to use the 787-8 to expand its route system and to replace some existing airplanes. The airline has not made an engine selection.

"We are looking forward to operating the 787 Dreamliner," said Nguyen. "The superior efficiency of the 787 will allow Vietnam Airlines to further develop our route structure to include city pairs that would otherwise not be financially viable, while providing the best comfort to our passengers."

Boeing jetliners comprise Vietnam Airlines' entire long-range fleet. The carrier operates seven 777-200ERs and three 767-300ERs. Four of the 777s have been purchased directly from Boeing; the remaining 777s and the 767s are leased.

Vietnam Airlines has a significant international route system, connecting Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh City to major world cities including Moscow, Paris, Beijing, Sydney and Melbourne, Seoul, Osaka, Tokyo, Taipei, Manila and many others.

The 787-8 Dreamliner will carry around 223 passengers in a tri-class configuration on routes of 8,500 nautical miles (15,700 kilometers). The airplane will use 20 percent less fuel for comparable missions than any similarly sized airplane and will also travel at speeds similar to today's fastest wide bodies, Mach 0.85.

General Electric and Rolls-Royce are developing the engines for the new airplane, which will feature a standardized engine interface, allowing either manufacturer's engines to be installed at any time on the airplane. The new engines are expected to contribute as much as eight percent of the increased efficiency of the new airplane.

Source: Boeing Co.

Fastest growing airline in Asia
"Vietnam Airlines is the fastest growing airline in Asia", according to EADS Test & Services upon signing a 3.5 million euro contract to provide the airline with an ATEC Series 6 test bench for the maintenance of their Airbus A320, A321 and Boeing 777 fleets.

The handover of the test station will be completed by the end of the year and installed at Hanoi's Noi Bai Airport. The system will provide the airline with maintenance capabilities in line with its expansion strategy. It plans to increase the number aircrafts to 49 by the end of the year and to 75 by 2010.

(Boeing Co, VOV)

wow..i never knew vietnam had an airline

It has 3 airlines: Vasco,Vietnam Airlines and Pacific Airlines.

Why don't you spend your summertime in Vietnam,to discover more things that you haven't known? :)

so is vietnam better than cambodia?

so is vietnam better than cambodia?

what do you mean better? in regards to aviation? I have no clue.

But who is the girl in your avatar? ;)

Cambodia has more airliners than Vietnam but most are small,private companies.

ooo ok..~ thats me in my avatar

^ oh i see now,welcome another girl in this forum :)......really,are you from Sulawesi,Ryo-chan?

National carrier Vietnam Airlines said on Friday its revenues in the first half of this year jumped nearly 30 percent to 9.96 trillion dong ($629 million) following a rise in the number of air travelers.
The unlisted airline posted revenues of 7.69 trillion dong in the first half of last year.

Vietnam Airlines said in a statement it flew 2.99 million passengers in the January-June period, a rise of 25 percent on a year earlier. The number of foreigner passengers jumped 30.66 percent to 1.33 million.

Seat occupancy in the six-month period was nearly 70 percent, up from 62.5 percent for the same period last year, the statement said.

A total of 1.72 million foreigners visited Vietnam in the first half of this year, up 23.7 percent on a year earlier, government figures showed.

Vietnam Airlines said it will launch a direct flight linking Ho Chi Minh City with Nagoya on July 29, its fourth such route to Japan.

Last month Vietnam Airlines signed a contract to buy four Boeing Co. 787 "Dreamliner" aircraft worth around $500 million at list price during Prime Minister Phan Van Khai's visit to the United States.

The airline targeted revenues this year at 19 trillion dong, up 9.3 percent from last year.

Vietnam Airlines has 38 planes, including 8 Boeing 777-200ERs, four 767-300s, six Airbus A321s, 10 Airbus 320s, nine ATR-72s and two Fokker-70s. It has said it will expand the fleet to 75 by 2010.

(Source: Reuters)

www.thanhniennews.com

Vietnam’s new int’l airport to be major regional competitor


Vietnam’s new international airport in Dong Nai province is to be a global transit destination in the Southeast Asian region, said a senior official from the Civil Aviation Authority Tuesday.

The Vietnamese Prime Minister has approved a master plan for construction of the Long Thanh International Airport in Long Thanh District of Dong Nai Province, 40km south east of HCMC.

“One of the most important aspects of the project is to make Vietnam the country of choice for transit to compete with airports in Singapore, Bangkok or Kuala Lumpur. Foreign travelers will choose to transit via the Long Thanh Airport to go to other places in the world,” said Vu Pham Nguyen Tung, deputy head of CAAV’s airport management department.

Major passenger load

The airport will command some US$8 billion in investment and cover 5,000 hectares, designed to handle 5 million pieces of cargo and 100 million passengers per year, 10 times Tan Son Nhat Int’l Airport in HCMC.

The project is also aimed at alleviating passenger loads at Tan Son Nhat Airport, as it is impossible to expand the airport due to space limitations.

The authority will focus on promotion activities for the airport and propose the government to adopt “market-opening” policies to attract carriers to the airport, said Mr. Tung.

“In the initial phase, air carriers operating flights to Long Thanh will enjoy reductions and exemptions in landing, take-off, and air traffic navigation fees,” he explained.

According to Mr. Tung, the 40km distance from Long Thanh to HCMC is ideal in that it will not cause noise pollution or disturb urban activities in the city.

The airport is scheduled to open between 2010 and 2015 with four runways able to receive Airbus 380s, and have several terminals and commercial sections.

Currently, CAAV is conducting feasibility studies for phase-one infrastructure construction.

National plan

Noi Bai Int’l Airport in Hanoi will be expanded and upgraded to receive 50 million passengers a year to meet the traveling demand of the northern region, he said.

In the central region, Danang Int’l Airport is building a new 4-million-passenger-per-year international terminal, with Chu Lai Airport in central Quang Nam province designated essential for cargo transit.

Source: Tuoi Tre - Compiled by Thanh Hang.

greatly cool :), hope you guy have a design or the sketch of the new airport so we can see what it look like. Competing is always better, it lower the price but intrigue the expectation

Two Vietnam-made amphibious light planes underwent successful test flights in South Vietnam on August 3-5.

The planes are the enhanced version of a light plane – actually Vietnam’s second locally-manufactured plane – which was tested last December, said the producers, technicians of the Vietnam Air Defense-Air Force.

The planes, known as VNS-41, are about 7m long and 2.5m high with a maximum take-off weight of 780kg. Each can carry two or three people and reach a maximum range of 300km and maximum height of 3000m above sea level.

They have a cruising speed of 100-135km per hour while the maximum speed is 140-160km per hour.

Technicians began developing the VNS-41 in June 2003 for use in forest patrols and search and rescue operations.

Vietnam’s first super light airplane, the VAM-1, also enjoyed a successful test flight in September 2003.

The 6.4m long plane was developed by the Vietnam Mechanics Association and can fly at 140km per hour at 3,000m.

VAM-1 weighs 150kg, spans 9.7m and has a loading capacity of 400kg, with maximum fuel consumption running at 20 liters per hour.

(Source: Sai Gon Giai Phong – Compiled by The Vinh)

http://thanhniennews.com/society/?catid=3&newsid=8431

Good news but i doubt they would secure any government order as long as they haven't enough money to bribe officials.( In VN, only official aircrafts and stateteowned corporate aircrafts can fly)

We have invented a lot but unfortunately, we don't rely on local products , why ??? I remember a Saigonese who invented a honda-based firemotorcycle carrying pumps and water tank, it can be on the field very quickly, roving amidst heavy urban traffic. But no city authority has ordered any...

Vietnam Airlines is very impressive. I believe its better than Philippine Airlines and Garuda Indonesia.

Trân, i think thoses could fly soon,guess what,they were made by the VNPAF :D

According to Saigon Online news..Vietnam will have a third Airline after Vietnam Airline and Pacific Airline..

http://www.sggp.org.vn/thoisu/nam2005/thang10/71099/

do you think we need another one?

In the near future we will have some private vietnamese airlines which will operated in Vietnam. Air Saigon for an example. But the government doesn´t allowed it not before Pacific Airlines haven´t recovered yet. But I think it will be happen in 2-3 years.

VASCO seems to be just a subsidiary of VA, which may be isn´t dangerous to the revenue of Vietnam Airlines.

they all are state owned enterprises ....

I flew Vietnam Airlines to Bangkok. I like the lotus livery and the girls wear lovely tradtional ao dai. What I want to know is when their forecast direct flights to London will begin? There are rumours about services beginning this winter but does anyone have anything more concrete?

To me, Vietnam is better than Cambodia in every aspect.

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an old airplane by Gia Lam
http://img415.imageshack.us/img415/4980/12080546mh.jpg

Hanoi Noi Bai International Airport
http://img415.imageshack.us/img415/1921/16080530fy.jpg
http://img415.imageshack.us/img415/5390/16080547xv.jpg
http://img415.imageshack.us/img415/7425/16080573pb.jpg
http://img415.imageshack.us/img415/6596/200705338zj.jpg
http://img415.imageshack.us/img415/1052/200705344gd.jpg
http://img415.imageshack.us/img415/2155/200705322sl.jpg

a B777 at the Frankfurt Airport
http://img415.imageshack.us/img415/4857/200705182cw.jpg
http://img415.imageshack.us/img415/5747/25805472xt.jpg
http://img415.imageshack.us/img415/5908/25805481ca.jpg

Interior
http://img415.imageshack.us/img415/4140/200705191fb.jpg
http://img415.imageshack.us/img415/7468/200705207kf.jpg
http://img415.imageshack.us/img415/1558/200705226an.jpg
http://img415.imageshack.us/img415/3968/200705287po.jpg

(c) TQ Tuan

Very impressive B-777, but I'm wondering why an aerobrigde is not provided at FRA in the second pic.
I have flown B777 quite a few times but not with VNA.
@ TQ: what can you say about PTVs on VNA 777 and their entertainment programs?

Those pics are cool...I've never been on Vietnam Airline. Are their food good?
I went on ANA and I can't eat their food (don't like Japanese food).

VNA meals are quite exceptable for me, but it's said that their wines are horrible (not sure, i never drink alcohol whilst on board).
@ phamAnhh:If you flew with All Nippon Air, I assume that they provided western and Japanese choices on main course, probably you made a wrong decision :)

Very impressive B-777, but I'm wondering why an aerobrigde is not provided at FRA in the second pic.
I have flown B777 quite a few times but not with VNA.
@ TQ: what can you say about PTVs on VNA 777 and their entertainment programs?

The food is average, neither better nor more badly than by Thai... You haven´t a big choice at the entertainemnt programm...between the latest Hollywood Blockbusters and asian movies and some other stuff like news. The music programm on the PTV is not so good because it contains almost unfamous artists.
But what I very like is the two magazines Heritage and Heritage Fashion. They contain very interesting arcticles and pictures.

VNA is trying to improve their entertainemnt program every year. So at the end of the year Boing is going to install Internet service (Connexion) on the B777´s. Just a few airlines in the World (!) have this programm on their airplanes. VNA is gonna be grow rapidly higher and just higher ;-)

Some of the VNA meals pics (www.airlinemeals.net :) )
Bussiness Class

http://www.airlinemeals.net/images/meals/vietnamairlines049SGNCDG.jpg

http://www.airlinemeals.net/images/meals/vietnamairlines046SGNCDG.jpg

Economy Class

http://www.airlinemeals.net/images/meals/vietnamairlines059.jpg

:cheers:

man those looks good yum yum

no

I've flown with VN Airlines a few times. The food were considerably better than those offered by other airlines I've also flown with.

for me, food offered by any airlines are just the same and I like them all :tongue4:
Air France is going to resume the direct services from CDG to HAN/SGN on 30/10 which have been suspended since April. This seems to be another problem for VNA.
AF will be using A 340-300 on the 2 routes, btw has anyone here flown AF A 340-300 yet, do they have any advantages over B-777 (from passengers' point of views)

AF will be using A 340-300 on the 2 routes, btw has anyone here flown AF A 340-300 yet, do they have any advantages over B-777 (from passengers' point of views)
From my experience, the A340 is quieter than the triple-7 (plus the A340 looks better :D).

some VNA B772 pics (airliner.net)
http://www.airliners.net/photos/middle/8/0/9/927908.jpg
VN-146 at SYD


http://www.airliners.net/photos/middle/9/4/7/936749.jpg
Vn-145 at BKK


http://www.airliners.net/photos/middle/0/0/9/912900.jpg
VN-144 at DME

@staff: I think 777 look better especially with VNA livery :-)

source: http://www.justplanes.com/

Vietnam Airlines leased 2 used A330-200s from ILFC (International Lease Finance Corporation) . The aircraft are scheduled for delivery in Jan07 and Feb07.

...so this aircraft from Airbus will be the longest airplane in the vn fleet.

another angle of the new terminal

http://img28.echo.cx/img28/7256/air0yr.png
Wow, the main terminal looks so much like T4 in JFK. I hope it will meet up with my expectations. Thanks for the nice pics

when is the new airpot of vietnam... i hope it will be operational soon.

does anyone know the "lotus flower" logo behind vietnam airlines?

New airport will be operational in 2008.

http://www.aseansec.org/images/Lotus_-_VN.JPG
The lotus flower is the most loved and revered flower in Vietnam. The people of Viet Nam regard the Lotus as one of the four graceful flowers and plants, along with the pine, bamboo, and chrysanthemum. Known as the ‘flower of the dawn’, the Lotus is found throughout the country at lakes and ponds. To the Vietnamese, the lotus is the symbol of purity, commitment and optimism for the future. The elegance of the lotus is often cited in the Vietnamese folk songs and poems.

The lotus as described in a Vietnamese poem:
Trong dam gi dep bang sen
la xanh bong trang lai chen nhuy vang
nhuy vang bong trang la xanh
gan bun ma chang hoi tanh mui bun

In the pond there is none prettier than the lotus
Green leaves, white petals and yellow stamens
Yellow stamens, white petals and green leaves
It rises out of the mud but does not smell of mud

no

New airport will be operational in 2008.

http://www.aseansec.org/images/Lotus_-_VN.JPG
The lotus flower is the most loved and revered flower in Vietnam. The people of Viet Nam regard the Lotus as one of the four graceful flowers and plants, along with the pine, bamboo, and chrysanthemum. Known as the ‘flower of the dawn’, the Lotus is found throughout the country at lakes and ponds. To the Vietnamese, the lotus is the symbol of purity, commitment and optimism for the future. The elegance of the lotus is often cited in the Vietnamese folk songs and poems.



Thanks for the info, i know this is the new logo of vietnam airlines and i like it. But what about the old logo... the shadow ofthe bird flying over the sun.

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:)

the old livery of VNA was a kind of uniform of airlines from Socialist part such as Air China and Aeroflot, the aircrafts were painted white along with some sort of dark blue patents. It seems that all of those airlines are trying to forget about the good old days. The Aeroflot new livery looks very special with the Federal flag and silver color.The livery of Air China is still there but it is now painted on some of the most powerful flying machines in the world like A 340-600 B747-400. It's good to see VNA going in the right direction. :)

the old one is the bird flying over the sun? I didn't know that u know
maybe the bird got bird flu ..and the sun stopped playing with the bird?

this is the logo that I'm talking about....

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b384/ianers_ianized/VN.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b384/ianers_ianized/VN3.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b384/ianers_ianized/VN2.jpg

I found this amazing pic in top 10 of Airliners.net today, rarely a case. :)
http://photos.airliners.net/photos/middle/6/5/3/1033356.jpg

Wow, was it photoshopped?

I assume the photographer did use some filters for better quality but this does not play an important role in this superb shot. There is a fact that heavily computer edited pics never get into top 500 of Airliners.net :)

Phó Tổng giám đốc Vietnam Airlines, ông Phạm Ngọc Minh cho biết Vietnam Airlines đang chuẩn bị cho việc mở đường bay từ Việt Nam đến Mỹ vào giữa năm 2007.

Lộ trình mở đường bay đến Mỹ bị chậm trễ là do thời gian qua VNA chưa đàm phán xong các điểm trung chuyển để bay quá cảnh từ Việt Nam đến Mỹ. Điểm đến đầu tiên sẽ là khu vự bờ Tây nước Mỹ hướng đến Log Angeles, San Francisco, sau đó nối chuyến vào 14 thành phố nội địa khác của Mỹ qua mạng bay của American Airlines.

Trước mắt, VNA vẫn triển khai đường bay Việt Nam - Mỹ qua các chuyến bay liên danh với AA, nối chuyến qua Paris, Frankfurt, Tokyo và Osaka.


Source: SGGP

Iam in Florida - USA.How can I get home land - Vietnam?

Iam in Florida - USA.How can I get home land - Vietnam?
You can fly there via New York or LA.

Hello... I've recently been in Vietnam last week and I can say that Vietnam Airlines is a promisinh airline hope it wil fly soon to the phillipines.

Hello... I've recently been in Vietnam last week and I can say that Vietnam Airlines is a promisinh airline hope it wil fly soon an operated flight to the phillipines in their beautiful lotus livery.

And Vietnamese staffs at the airport were nice, friendly and good.

When is Vietnam Airlines going to be listed in the stock market?

http://asia.news.yahoo.com/060327/5/2i0k6.html
INSIDE INDOCHINA: Vietnam Airlines Seeks Regional Role

Thread already existed http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=219668 :)

Saigon Monsooner: Thanks for the link.

Vietnam's latest scandal (of the month)

http://www.tuoitre.com.vn/Tianyon/Index.aspx?ArticleID=142117&ChannelID=3
http://vnexpress.net/Vietnam/Phap-luat/2006/06/3B9EA7D6/
http://vnexpress.net/Vietnam/Phap-luat/2006/06/3B9EA80C/

It's like having mole's hole in your garden, you know it's there but never do anything, until your wife set her foot on, this is not the case with VNA anyway, suddenly everything under the rug is being swept out.

I expect the food will look less delicious on your next flight because they have to save up the money to pay for the law suite in Italy (5.2 Mil euro..)...:)

by the way, how could they turned down RR engines offer for PW engines on their "custom" 777s?..:)

And how about $190,000 late fee on the bill huh?...so amazing

Creative accounting do amazing things with numbers.

I hope Vietnam Airlines is not like Enron.

here comes another article of the day

http://www5.dantri.com.vn/Sukien/2006/6/122063.vip

I used to like Vietnam Airlines but the recent news are very disappointing. I'm resigned to the fact that this corrupted regime is incurable.

There is a Vietnamese saying "Mo^.t Con Sa^u La`m Sa^`u No^`i Canh" which

translates into English as "One Parasite Destroys The Whole Soup." Vietnam must

confront corruption as a war that should be defeated. If Vietnam does not defeat

corruption, how can Vietnam compete with other countries such as Thailand and

Malaysia and become better than those countries. Corruption is like the termites that

are ruining the foundation of the house. With one gentle wind, the house comes down

like it is made of grasses. With one gentle wave, the house house comes down like it

is made of sands.

next on the list

http://www.vnexpress.net/Vietnam/Phap-luat/2006/06/3B9EA9DF/

It's called enjo kosai in Japanese i think

Sat_Cong:

Thank you for that news. It is horrible for some people to take advantage of women like that. Hopefully, Vietnam can improve on the corruption score in 2006 and improve to 3.0 and above. Vietnam's current corruption score is 2.6 (2005). New Zealand is above 9.0 . The score is ranged from 0 (worst) to 10 (best).

BetterFuture, where do you get or view the scores? New Zeland is pretty good huh..:) how do they grade it anyway?

Sat Cong :) Please check this link out and read page 12. Vietnam is ranked near the bottom in term of corruption.

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http://www.vinacapital.com/upload/files/VietnamRegionalPlays_Merrill%20Lynch_280406.pdf

TI 2005 Corruption Perceptions Index
2 New Zealand 9.6
5 Singapore 9.4
9 Australia 8.8
15 Hong Kong 8.3
21 Japan 7.3
32 Taiwan 5.9
39 Malaysia 5.1
40 South Korea 5.0

59 Thailand 3.8
78 China 3.2
88 India 2.9
107 Vietnam 2.6
117 Philippines 2.5
130 Cambodia 2.3
137 Indonesia 2.2
144 Pakistan 2.1
158 Bangladesh 1.7

Thanks, BetterFuture...:)

Some corruption cases are not simple to be recorded, i guess the data just shows the measurable corruption....

Oh no...

http://www6.dantri.com.vn/Sukien/2006/6/122537.vip

Prime Minister Phan Van Khai and Vietnam must fight corruption like how President George W. Bush and the United States fight terrorism.

I would like to see Vietnam becoming an economic powerhouse like South Korea, Japan, or Germany. But with Vietnam's rampant corruption like this, it is not going to happen.

If Vietnam can defeat corruption and remove it from the society, Vietnam can go far and the opportunity for Vietnam is endless.

It is time for Vietnam to step up and realize her full potential like South Korea, Japan, or Germany.

Just one after another....this guy took the matter on his own hands...launching the cash to pay for vna's debt..hehehehe

http://www9.dantri.com.vn/Sukien/2006/6/122615.vip

Prime Minister Phan Van Khai and Vietnam must fight corruption like how President George W. Bush and the United States fight terrorism.

I would like to see Vietnam becoming an economic powerhouse like South Korea, Japan, or Germany. But with Vietnam's rampant corruption like this, it is not going to happen.

If Vietnam can defeat corruption and remove it from the society, Vietnam can go far and the opportunity for Vietnam is endless.

It is time for Vietnam to step up and realize her full potential like South Korea, Japan, or Germany.

with those hot issues keep popping up on the newspapers everyday, hopefully, they can clean it up within the next 10 years. First they need to build up some trust so the investors can be comfortable to invest their money in the country.

Sat Cong :)

I read the story. What is that pilot from Vietnam Airlines doing with $500,000 US Dollars? That is a large amount of money.

I hope Vietnam can clean up corruption within 10 years like you say. Corruption stinks the whole place and it is so barbarious and uncivilized.

Please check this out.

http://english.vietnamnet.vn/reports/2006/06/578660/

"List of government officials whose children received Vietnam Airlines scholarships but were unqualified."

here's another story of vna....If you are waiting for direct flights from US to SG...best of luck to you...:)

http://www9.dantri.com.vn/Sukien/2006/6/122618.vip

BetterFuture, thanks for the link...all the big shots' kids huh..

'Hope that VN will start flying again in Manila in their golden lotus livery.

here's another story of vna....If you are waiting for direct flights from US to SG...best of luck to you...:)

http://www9.dantri.com.vn/Sukien/2006/6/122618.vip

BetterFuture, thanks for the link...all the big shots' kids huh..
hey can someone translate this? i cant really read viet... lol cant find a 'translate to english' button on the site lol. what does it say?

source: http://www.justplanes.com/



...so this aircraft from Airbus will be the longest airplane in the vn fleet.
oh vn will recieve a330's? how cool! cant wait to see the a330 in the golden lotus livery! it will be so :eek2: :)

http://today.reuters.com/stocks/QuoteCompanyNewsArticle.aspx?view=CN&symbol=&storyID=2006-07-18T020609Z_01_HAN30931_RTRIDST_0_AIRLINES-VIETNAM-BOEING.XML&pageNumber=0&WTModLoc=InvArt-C1-ArticlePage2&sz=13

Vietnam Air to plan purchase of 10 new Boeing 787s
Mon Jul 17, 2006 10:06pm ET

http://www.thanhniennews.com/travel/?catid=7&newsid=17944

An American business is discussing with Pacific Airlines to obtain 30% stake in the company.

Temasek Holdings of Singapore already had a 30% stake in Pacific Airlines.

Pacific Airlines Shareholders
40% owned by Vietnam
30% owned by Singapore (Temasek Holdings)
30% owned by America

OMG, it's finally here. The first ever Airbus widebody for VNA
A-330 322
http://p.airliners.net/photos/middle/7/5/8/1101857.jpg
Just unbelievable :cheers:

Agree with Better Future. If you have competition within the system, a free press, rule of law, and checks and balance, it helps to keep the officials honest, eh.

Tư nhân sẽ có thể lập hãng hàng không


Dự thảo cho phép tư nhân và người nước ngoài lập hãng hàng không
Cục Hàng không dân dụng Việt Nam vừa hoàn thành dự thảo Nghị định về kinh doanh vận chuyển hàng không, trong đó cho phép doanh nghiệp được lập các hãng hàng không tư nhân.
Doanh nghiệp xin cấp giấy phép kinh doanh vận chuyển hàng không phải có vốn pháp định từ 80-480 tỷ đồng, khai thác ít mất một máy bay trong điều kiện không quá 10 năm sử dụng.

Năm ngoái, lãnh đạo Bộ Giao thông vận tải cũng đã thông báo việc hãng Pacific Airlines sẽ được một công ty Đầu tư tài chính của Singapore đầu tư tới 30% cổ phần của hãng này.

Điều này là đột phá vào tình trạng bùng nhùng “ba trong một”, khi Pacific Airlines trước đó vẫn bị Bộ Tài chính chi phối, và hãng này cùng với Vietnam Airlines và Công ty bay dịch vụ VASCO cũng có những thỏa thuận về giá vé, đường bay, tần suất bay, v.v, với Vietnam Airlines đóng vai trò chủ đạo – một sự độc quyền về khai thác trong một thị trường độc quyền.

Đó cũng là nguyên nhân vì sao giá vé của Vietnam Airlines luôn đụng giá trần và hiếm khi thấy giảm. Còn Pacific Airlines cũng ít khi dám giảm giá vé thấp hơn giá quy định.

Nước ngoài được tham gia

Thực tế, Luật Hàng không dân dụng Việt Nam năm 1991, và vừa rồi là Luật Hàng không dân dụng (sửa đổi) mới được Quốc hội thông qua, cũng đều khẳng định cho phép tổ chức, cá nhân thuộc mọi thành phần kinh tế được tham gia hoạt động hàng không.

Trước đây cũng có một số đề án xin thành lập hãng hàng không tư nhân, nhưng theo Cục hàng không thì hầu hết là “không khả thi”, với dự tính của chính phủ trong ba năm tới củng cố Pacific Airlines trước khi cho ra các hãng hàng không khác.

Còn theo nghị định vừa rồi của Cục Hàng không dân dụng thì không chỉ có các cá nhân trong nước được khuyến khích thành lập hãng hàng không, mà các nhà đầu tư nước ngoài cũng được tham gia liên kết, với người đại diện theo pháp luật của hãng hàng không là công dân Việt Nam.

Người nước ngoài sẽ không chiếm quá một phần ba số thành viên điều hành, và vốn nước ngoài không chiếm quá 49% vốn điều lệ của hãng hàng không, hoặc 60% vốn điều lệ nếu là hãng liên doanh.

Trực tiếp Thủ tướng sẽ xét cấp giấy phép kinh doanh vận chuyển hàng không, trên cơ sở đề nghị của Bộ trưởng Giao thông Vận tải, còn thời hạn xét duyệt hồ sơ sẽ là hai tháng.

Viễn cảnh

Mọi người hy vọng với việc mở cửa cho thành lập các hãng hàng không tư nhân và cho phép đầu tư nước ngoài với tỷ trọng lớn hơn sẽ làm tăng tính cạnh tranh trong lĩnh vực vận tải hàng không, vốn vẫn là độc quyền từ trước tới nay.

Khi cạnh tranh làm ăn và “cuộc chiến thị phần” diễn ra, người tiêu dùng sẽ được hưởng lợi vì giá vé có thể sẽ rẻ hơn và chất lượng phục vụ được chú ý hơn, như những gì đang thấy trong ngành viễn thông hiện nay tại Việt Nam.

I couldn't believe it too until' I read this on the german website of Vietnam Airlines: http://vietnam-air.de/service.aspx#ecodeluxe

They were awarded by two German travel agancy's:

Celver reisen!: "The best Premium Economy which takes off from Germany"
Reise&Preise: "One of the best Comfort-Class in the world"

Thành lập hãng hàng không: Nhà đầu tư nước ngoài được tham gia 49% cổ phần


Ông Lại Xuân Thanh, Phó cục trưởng Cục Hàng không dân dụng VN cho biết, Luật Hàng không dân dụng sửa đổi có hiệu lực vào ngày 1-1-2007 tới đây sẽ tạo điều kiện cho các thành phần kinh tế tham gia mạnh hơn vào lĩnh vực hàng không, đặc biệt là nhà đầu tư nước ngoài có thể tham gia thành lập hãng hàng không với số vốn góp lên đến 49% cổ phần.

Đây là một điểm mới và được xem là khá cởi mở so với quy định hiện nay là 30% (hiện Chính phủ cho phép hãng hàng không Pacific Airlines được kêu gọi nước ngoài đầu tư nhưng không quá 30% vốn điều lệ).

Nếu dự thảo Nghị định được Chính phủ thông qua, các nhà đầu tư nước ngoài có thể tham gia liên kết với người đại diện theo pháp luật của hãng hàng không là công dân VN, để thành lập hãng hàng không với số vốn góp lên đến 49% cổ phần trong lĩnh vực vận tải hàng không. Ngoài ra, đối với những hãng kinh doanh hàng không phục vụ nông lâm nghiệp… Dự thảo đưa ra quy định phía nước ngoài được sở hữu tới 60% vốn điều lệ.

Việc cho phép các nhà đầu tư nước ngoài được tham gia bao nhiêu phần trăm cổ phần trong một hãng hãng hàng không luôn là vấn đề “nhạy cảm”, được cân nhắc không chỉ ở VN mà còn ở nhiều nước trên thế giới. Tuy nhiên, theo đánh giá của các chuyên gia thì nội dung của dự thảo Nghị định là rất cởi mở, mang tính hội nhập cao và tiên tiến so với thế giới.

Một người xin thành lập hàng không tư nhân 16:04:00, 26/09/2006



Tiến sĩ Đoàn Văn Quảng, nguyên Viện trưởng Viện Khoa học Hàng không vừa chính thức có văn bản tái đề nghị được lập hãng HK Sàigòn (Saigon Air).

Chỉ cần 80 tỷ đồng, một máy bay… là cá nhân, tổ chức có thể thành lập hãng hàng không (HK). Đây là quy định mới nhất của dự thảo hướng dẫn Luật HK dân dụng (sửa đổi).

Ông cho biết: Từ năm 1987 trong phương án đề nghị tổ chức lại ngành Hàng không dân dụng (HKDD) gửi Chính phủ, tôi có đặt ra việc nên thành lập các hãng HK cổ phần, vì tôi cho rằng, vị trí địa lý và xu hướng hội nhập của nước ta chắc chắn sẽ thúc đẩy sự phát triển của vận tải hàng không.
Ông Đoàn Văn Quảng

Khi về hưu, vào năm 1995, sau chuyến đi khảo sát nghiên cứu 22 tỉnh và thành phố từ Bình Định trở vào, gồm Nam Trung Bộ, Nam Bộ và Tây Nguyên, tôi thấy tình hình đủ điều kiện để tổ chức một Cty HK cổ phần.

Tôi đã đem ý kiến này bàn bạc với một số bạn bè nguyên là cán bộ không quân, HKDD đang nghỉ hưu và một số tướng lĩnh Quân đội trước đây có liên quan đến việc chỉ huy và quản lý không quân.

Sau đó, chúng tôi thành lập một Ban Vận động thành lập Cty HK cổ phần MEKONG, gọi tắt là Mekong Air nhưng Cục HK phản đối, họ cho là với thị trường HK Việt Nam còn ít ỏi thì một mình Vietnam Airlines (VNA) có thể bảo đảm bất cứ yêu cầu nào...

Đến năm 1999, tôi và các cộng sự đã xây dựng dự án thành lập Saigon Air nhưng dự án gửi đi không có hồi âm, mặc dù mỗi năm tôi đều cập nhật sửa chữa lại dự án và tiếp tục gửi...

*Và nay, khi dự thảo Nghị định kinh doanh vận tải HK và hoạt động HK chung mà Cục HKDD mới hoàn thành, hứa hẹn sẽ “mở hết cỡ” hành lang pháp lý cho việc thành lập HK tư nhân, ông đã làm văn bản để nhắc lại với các cơ quan chức năng về đề án Saigon Air?

Đề án xin phép thành lập Saigon Air lần này khác với những lần trước ở chỗ, chúng tôi xác định sẽ xây dựng một hãng HK hoạt động cả trong nước và quốc tế, có chở khách, chở hàng và bay theo dạng taxi, tức là Hãng HK Saigòn sẽ có Airlines, Air Cargo, Air Taxi.

Đó sẽ là hãng HK đa năng, ngoài việc bay, chúng tôi liên doanh với nhiều tổ chức kinh tế khác để tạo nguồn hàng, và chú trọng đào tạo các loại nhân viên hàng không, cũng như tổ chức câu lạc bộ HK để tạo điều kiện cho mọi người hiểu về HK, tham gia chuẩn bị cho việc phát triển HK với khả năng và điều kiện của mình.

Chúng tôi đã có nhiều sự chuẩn bị khả thi cho đề án này cả về tài chính lẫn kỹ thuật, còn về nhân lực thì hiện đội ngũ cán bộ HK đang nghỉ hưu là tài sản vô giá mà Saigon Air có thể tận dụng.

Trong thành phần ban vận động, những người đăng ký góp vốn và sức lực đầu tiên cho Saigon Air, có đủ những người ưu tú nhất trong ngành kỹ thuật HK trước đây...

*Theo lãnh đạo Cục HKDD VN hiện chúng ta mới khai thác được 6 triệu lượt hành khách, trong khi đó đã có đến 23-24 hãng tham gia, trong nước mới có hai hãng bay mà còn không có đủ khách để phục vụ?

Đó là cách đánh giá tầm ngắn, chứ không nhìn xa, bởi vì HKVN hiện tại ngồi chờ thị trường chứ chưa chủ động tạo ra thị trường. Trong việc chuyên chở khách nội địa, ngành HK đã tổ chức tốt việc vận chuyển hành khách trên các tuyến Bắc - Nam và Hà Nội - Đà Nẵng-TPHCM nhưng chưa đáp ứng được yêu cầu của những khách đi tuyến lẻ ở các địa phương...

Còn so với nhu cầu của thị trường bay quốc tế, VNA đang là “người cô độc”, ngoài Hãng PA bay thêm vài chuyến đi Đài Loan, thì không có hãng HK nào khác chia sẻ gánh nặng với VNA, những Hiệp định HK với các nước nhất là Hiệp định HK với Hoa Kỳ đều cần có 2 hãng HK Việt Nam bay đối ứng.

Tại sao không tổ chức thêm nhiều hãng HK Việt Nam để giành lấy thị phần mà hơn 20 hãng HK nước ngoài đang khai thác trên chính sân nhà chúng ta?

*Như vậy, ông cho rằng, VN cần phải có thêm các hãng HK, để chuẩn bị cho sự cạnh tranh trên thị trường HK nội địa và quốc tế sau khi gia nhập WTO?

Sự độc quyền trên lĩnh vực kinh tế thường đi đôi với sự trì trệ, cửa quyền. Không phải người ngoài, không phải ai khác mà chính những người lãnh đạo HK đã thấy điều này, trong khi bàn về việc cải tổ hãng HK cổ phần PA chính Tổng Giám đốc VNA Nguyễn Xuân Hiển đã nói cần phải có thêm hai hay ba hãng HK nữa và VNA cần có đối tác cạnh tranh để phát triển.

*Nhưng HK là lĩnh vực kinh doanh có điều kiện, thưa ông?

Nên nhớ một điều là, HKDD là ngành kinh tế, nó phải phát triển theo quy luật kinh tế. Tất nhiên, HKDD quản lý những phương tiện vận chuyển đặc thù là máy bay, cần phải hết sức cảnh giác và thận trọng, nhưng HKDD không phải là tổ chức quân sự, và HKDDVN có mối quan hệ mật thiết với HKDD quốc tế, cho nên việc quản lý ngành này theo Luật HK đã được Quốc hội thông qua, còn phần cảnh giác thì đã có những quy định về an ninh mà các hãng HK hoạt động trên nước CHXHCN Việt Nam phải chấp hành.

Nếu chúng ta mong muốn ngành HKVN trong 10-15 năm tới phải là ngành vận tải HK có tầm cỡ trong khu vực và trên thế giới, thì ngay bây giờ Nhà nước phải khơi dậy sự sôi động trên thị trường và hỗ trợ sự phát triển, tránh tình trạng như hiện nay VNA khống chế thị trường, thiếu năng động, buồn tẻ, thiếu đòn bẩy.

Hi locbuuloc! welcome to the forum!

Hi Saigon_monsooner :) . Yeah, I am new to the forum. Thank you for your warm welcome. I am very interested in this website in general and vietnam forum in particular. I like your English. It sounds native. Mine is still not good. I need to learn more though.
Cheers mate.
:cheers:

Website sucks! have to wait until June!

VietNamNet (http://english.vietnamnet.vn/biz/2007/01/653226/)

VietNamNet Bridge – On January 11, Vietnam Airlines announced it had received the first of the 10 A321 aircrafts it had ordered from Airbus Industries of Hamburg Terminal Airport.

According to Vietnam Airlines, this A321 will be put into use after the completion of all activities related to technical inspection and customs.

The A321 carrier has 182 seats and the top speed of 877km/h at the height of 10.668m above sea level. The plane’s body is 44.51m long and its wingspan is 34.1m.

In order to upgrade its fleet, Vietnam Airlines signed a contract with Airbus Industries to purchase the ten A321 carriers after many negotiation rounds in December 2004. According to the contract, Vietnam Airlines will receive five more in 2007, three more in 2008 and the last one in 2009.

According to a report by Vietnam Airlines, Calyon Bank and other financial organisations in Europe have supported the Vietnamese side in its capital mobilisation for the project.

Prime Minister Nguyen Tan Dung has approved decision No QD 05 assigning the Ministry of Finance and the Ministry of Justice to complete all legal documents and other formalities necessary so that Vietnam Airlines can receive four A321 carriers in January 2007.

The A321 and A320 are produced by Airbus Industries using the most state-of-the-art technologies. The aircrafts will satisfy the need of Vietnam Airlines for domestic and regional routes.

H.Yen

Website sucks! have to wait until June!

This really say something about their management.

When i visited the site in July 2006, it says the site will be available by November 2006. So i visited it again in November, I was surprised that the completion date was moved to June 2007.

It doesn't take a normal functional company a year to get a website working. Especially for an airline company, a website is vital to its growth/success.

The prime minister should replace all the top level executives with ones educated from the west, at least they have a better understanding of business, economy and management.

It is a State Owned Enterprise that's why it sucks! The main shareholder is the government. I heard they want to privatized some part of it. Hopefully, this will help it to be run more efficiently and transparently. I've been on the airlines, the service level is terrible. I don't know where or how they recruit the staff from but they really need to work on their human resources department. The government shouldn't be running enterprises, it is something that been known and written since the time of Adam Smith. On the other hand, Singapore Airlines is mostly owned by the Singaporean government but it is run very effectively and efficiently. When I read Lee Kuan Yew's memoir, he said that although SIA is state owned, the management for the company recruits the best staff and they have to operate on a purely competitive basis with no political interference. Oh well, VN needs another Doi Moi II.

Máy bay Vietnam Airlines hạ cánh khẩn cấp tại Azerbaijan.

Tối qua, một chiếc Boeing 777 của Vietnam Airlines chở 307 người đang trên đường từ Paris về Hà Nội phải hạ cánh khẩn cấp xuống sân bay thủ đô Baku của Azerbaijan vì bị nứt kính chắn gió buồng lái.
Một chiếc Boeing 777 của Vietnam Airlines đang cất cánh từ sân bay Paris Charles de Gaul. Ảnh: Airliners.
Một chiếc Boeing 777 của Vietnam Airlines đang cất cánh từ sân bay Paris Charles de Gaulle. Ảnh: Airliners.

Cú hạ cánh được thực hiện an toàn lúc 21h giờ địa phương (24h giờ Hà Nội) và không có ai bị thương trong sự cố nói trên. Một quan chức sân bay Baku cho biết phi hành đoàn chiếc Boeing 777 của Việt Nam quyết định cho đáp khẩn cấp sau khi phát hiện vết rạn nứt của kính chắn gió tại buồng lái. Trên máy bay khi đó có 290 hành khách và phi hành đoàn 17 người.

Đây là lần thứ ba trong chưa đầy hai tuần qua các máy bay phải hạ cánh khẩn cấp xuống Baku vì lý do tương tự. Trước đó là một chiếc Boeing 757 của hãng Air Slovakia đang từ Ấn Độ tới Slovakia hạ cánh hôm 5/1 và chiếc Tu-134 của Nga hạ cánh mới tuần trước.

Những công trình tiền tỷ hoang phế của Vietnam Airlines

Sở hữu nhiều khu đất đẹp, ở vị trí mặt tiền tại TP HCM nhưng Vietnam Airlines sử dụng kém hiệu quả, thậm chí để “đóng băng". Riêng khu đất góc đường Đinh Tiên Hoàng - Nguyễn Đình Chiểu, phường Đa Kao, quận 1 trị giá 500 tỷ đồng xây dựng dang dở 8 năm qua.

Khu đất góc đường Đinh Tiên Hoàng - Nguyễn Đình Chiểu, phường Đa Kao, quận 1, TP HCM (địa chỉ cũ là 27B Nguyễn Đình Chiểu) do Vietnam Airlines (VNA) quản lý. Năm 1994, thời điểm TP HCM còn “sốt” cao ốc, khách sạn, VNA cùng với Công ty S.M.I. Travel Company Limited (Thái Lan) thành lập Công ty liên doanh TNHH Khách sạn hàng không Việt Nam để cải tạo, nâng cấp tòa nhà 5 tầng tại địa chỉ trên thành khách sạn đạt tiêu chuẩn quốc tế 4 sao, kinh doanh các dịch vụ khách sạn.

http://vnexpress.net/Vietnam/Xa-hoi/2007/01/3B9F2A56/tienty.jpg
Công trình xây dựng của Vietnam Airlines tại góc đường Đinh Tiên Hoàng - Nguyễn Đình Chiểu, quận 1, TP.HCM bị bỏ dở dang. Ảnh: Tuổi Trẻ.

Công trình được khởi công và công ty liên doanh cũng hai lần điều chỉnh tăng vốn vào năm 1995, 1999 lên 27,3 triệu USD (tuy nhiên diện tích khu đất thời điểm này điều chỉnh giảm còn 5.006 m2). Vốn công ty liên tục điều chỉnh tăng, nhưng tiến độ công trình cứ ì ạch. Người dân xung quanh cho biết khoảng năm 1998 công trình ngưng xây dựng...

Ngày 21/12/2000, Bộ Kế hoạch Đầu tư đồng ý cho chuyển nhượng phần vốn góp của phía công ty Thái Lan cho VNA, thành doanh nghiệp 100% vốn VN, chấm dứt hoạt động của công ty liên doanh. Nhưng hơn 6 năm qua, dự án vẫn án binh bất động. Công trình trở thành hoang phế. Phía đường Nguyễn Đình Chiểu là tòa nhà 5 tầng đã xuống cấp, tầng trệt được trưng dụng làm bãi giữ xe. Khu phía sau dở dang, chỏng chơ gọng sắt...

Giám đốc một công ty thẩm định bất động sản cho biết, với vị trí khu đất trên, giá thị trường hiện nay 8-9 lượng vàng/m2. Như vậy giá trị toàn bộ khu đất trên không dưới 500 tỷ đồng. “Đống vàng” này đã bị "bỏ quên" hơn 8 năm qua, không được đưa vào khai thác, sử dụng, lãng phí tiền tỷ.

Xây rồi... đập bỏ

Lãng phí trong sử dụng đất công cũng diễn ra tại địa chỉ 108 Hồng Hà, phường 2, quận Tân Bình, TP HCM do VNA quản lý, sử dụng làm nhà nghỉ và văn phòng các đơn vị trực thuộc. Tại đây là một dãy nhà dài khoảng 100 m, sâu khoảng 15 m, một trệt hai lầu, tổng cộng trên 100 phòng. “Khoảng 2 năm trước, công trình bắt đầu được cải tạo, nhưng sau đó ngưng sửa chữa”, một người dân nói.

Hiện công trình loang lổ bởi những chỗ đã bị đập phá chưa kịp sửa chữa, còn phần đã cải tạo cũng chưa được sử dụng do công trình chưa hoàn chỉnh. VNA phải tốn tiền thuê bảo vệ canh giữ.

http://vnexpress.net/Vietnam/Xa-hoi/2007/01/3B9F2A56/tientyn.jpg
Dãy nhà 108 Hồng Hà, quận Tân Bình tốn chi phí cải tạo, nhưng nay chờ phá bỏ, xây mới. Ảnh: Tuổi Trẻ.

Ông Lương Ngọc Thuyên, đội trưởng đội phục vụ hành chính đoàn bay 919 (đơn vị quản lý dãy nhà trên, thuộc VNA), cho biết, khu nhà này trước đây do đoàn bay 919 quản lý, phục vụ hành khách quá cảnh. Do công trình xuống cấp nên đầu năm 2004, VNA giao cho ban quản lý dự án của Tổng công ty cải tạo công trình. Tuy nhiên, quá trình cải tạo lại phát hiện kết cấu công trình không đảm bảo nên đã tạm dừng sửa chữa vào cuối năm 2004. Ông Thuyên nói khu đất tại địa chỉ trên có diện tích khoảng 6.000 m2.

Theo một cán bộ VNA, việc tạm dừng sửa chữa do quá trình khảo sát, đơn vị có trách nhiệm đã không đánh giá kỹ chất lượng công trình. Nếu tiếp tục cải tạo, công trình sẽ không sử dụng được lâu, lại phải đập bỏ, xây mới.

Ngoài hai khu đất trên, hiện nay VNA còn được giao quản lý, sử dụng nhiều khu đất khác có diện tích khá rộng trên đường Hồng Hà. Tuy nhiên, một số diện tích được tận dụng làm hồ bơi, sân tennis...

(Theo Tuổi Trẻ)


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I have some pic just taken last year in Noi Bai and TSN airport. Just upload!:cheers:


In Noi Bai:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/183/369962937_9f5763ed23_o.jpg


In TSN:

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Interior of TSN:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/68/369962917_fb58dada90_o.jpg

(Cai thang on mac ao trang ban hang trong san bay ma dep trai nhu Won Bin :ohno: )
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/157/369958920_cbd18a9cbd_o.jpg

Co em Han Xeng xinh xinh, the la phai chup ngay, chi toi may anh deu, anh xau qua
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http://farm1.static.flickr.com/154/369956608_f6c77e7d97_o_d.jpg


And the final is Viet Nam Airline! :D

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/162/369956602_3f28a884e0_o_d.jpg


Where is this!? Nha Trang or Vung Tau of cai thang Milky?

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/150/369956598_03d7d29ef1_o.jpg

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^^ be a gentleman and come greet the girl...the pic you've taken is so far away...i cant tell how good looking she is...

He he! I'm not good looking enough so................................. I'm always SHY! :nuts: :lol:

bạn shy mà bạn chửi nhau hay thiệt là hay, mình nghe bạn chửi mà mình shy-mê

bạn shy mà bạn chửi nhau hay thiệt là hay, mình nghe bạn chửi mà mình shy-mê

:master: :master: :master:

that girl is really gud-lookin'. :D nguoi nuoc nao vay?? chac ko fai VN roi :D

Qantas to purchase Pacific Airlines?

14:43' 30/01/2007 (GMT+7)

VietNamNet Bridge – It is said that the Australian air carrier Qantas is attempting to purchase shares of Pacific Airlines. Meanwhile, the information is not neither confirmed nor denied by the involved parties.




Experts said that Qantas attempts to buy Pacific Airlines’ shares in order to help its subsidiary, JetStar, a budget airline, which has the non-stop route from Sydney to HCM City since December 2006, have a wider entrance door to the Asian market
The ‘hot news’ came to the public ears after Qantas Airways’ Finance Director Peter Gregg stated on the sideline of an event held in Singapore that Qantas is planning to purchase a big volume of shares worth two digits of millions dollars from an airline in Asia. He said that this is a part of the air carrier’s plan to expand the air route network of Qantas in the Asia Pacific market.



Analysts said that if the purchasing deal can be made, Qantas would purchase 49% of total shares of Pacific Airlines at maximum, which belong to the Ministry of Finance of Vietnam. Pacific Airlines’ plan to sell 30% of total capital to Temasek Holdings, a Singaporean Government owned company, has broken for one year. In the last year, Pacific Airlines was valued at $167mil.



In 2006, Pacific Airlines could carry 4mil passengers with the fleet of chartered Boeing 737 aircrafts. The airline strives for carrying 8mil passengers in 2007 when it begins operating as budget airline and selling cheap tickets on line. The airline’s leader told to the press in interviews that it would offer the super cheap airfare, at $1 only.



From February 2007, Pacific Airlines will become the first Vietnamese budget airline. In the immediate time, it would provide budget flights from Hanoi to Da Nang and HCM City (domestic flights) and two destinations Taipei and Cao Hsiung in Taiwan. The plans on opening the air routes to Japan, China, Hong Kong, Macau and India have also been mentioned by the airline on its website.



Experts said that Qantas attempts to buy Pacific Airlines’ shares in order to help its subsidiary, JetStar, a budget airline, which has the non-stop route from Sydney to HCM City since December 2006, have a wider entrance door to the Asian market.



Qantas has had 86 year experiences, and it has become more financially powerful after accepting the new owner, Airline Partners Australia, which consists of the Australian Macquarie Bank, Allco, a financial company, Canadian Onex Corp and the US-based Texas Pacific Group, in a commercial affair worth $11.1bil inked in mid December 2006.

http://english.vietnamnet.vn/biz/2007/01/659358/

new website (http://www.vietnamairlines.com.vn/English/Vietnamairlines/Goldenlotusplusprogram/tabid/249/Default.aspx)

http://www.vietnamairlines.com.vn/Portals/0/BannerE.jpg

Not very well designed, not professional as other airlines' website especially the booking section.

but www.vietnamairlines.com is still u/c...I don't get it!

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This is just beta version, so maybe it only available on one domain.

http://www.vietnamair.com.vn/

LINK NÀY HOẠT ĐỘNG TỐT NÀY !!! ^^

Hai máy bay của Vietnam Airlines gặp sự cố

Lúc 0h45 sáng 3/2, chiếc máy bay Airbus A330-368 mang số hiệu VN 936 bay chặng Nội Bài - Seoul (Hàn Quốc) chở 278 hành khách sau khi cất cánh gần 60 phút đã phải quay lại sân bay Nội Bài vì gặp sự cố. Cùng ngày, một chuyến bay khác từ Điện Biên về Hà Nội cũng bị huỷ do cháy một bộ phận của động cơ.

Chuyến bay từ Điện Biên về Hà Nội chở theo 31 hành khách bằng máy bay ATR 72 đang chạy trên đường băng và chuẩn bị cất cánh thì một chi tiết của động cơ bốc cháy. Phi hành đoàn phải ra lệnh dừng lại, toàn bộ hành khách được sơ tán an toàn.

Riêng chặng bay từ Hà Nội đi Seul, sau khi bị sự cố Vietnam Airlines bố trí cho hành khách về khách sạn nghỉ ngơi, đồng thời bố trí một chuyến khác bằng máy bay Boeing 777 vào lúc 16h30 chiều cùng ngày.

Ông Lại Xuân Thanh, Phó Cục trưởng Hàng không Việt Nam thừa nhận, mấy ngày qua máy bay của Vietnam Airlines liên tục phải hạ cánh khẩn cấp, ngừng bay vì lý do kỹ thuật. Đêm 26/1, một chiếc máy bay Airbus A320 bay chặng TP HCM - Hà Nội cũng gặp sự cố kỹ thuật phải ngừng bay.

Máy bay Vietnam Airlines lại phải hạ cánh khẩn cấp

Vietnam Airlines bi truc trac nhieu the nhi.

Sáng 5/2, lại có thêm một chuyến bay của Vietnam Airlines phải hạ cánh khẩn cấp vì trục trặc kỹ thuật. Các sự cố liên tiếp xảy ra trong thời gian ngắn khiến cho dư luận không khỏi đặt câu hỏi về an toàn hàng không. Trong cuộc họp khẩn sáng qua, lãnh đạo hãng vẫn chưa tìm ra nguyên nhân của vấn đề này.


Máy bay của Vietnam Airlines liên tục gặp sự cố. Ảnh: H.H.
Sáng qua, chiếc máy bay A320 mã hiệu VN241 chở theo 147 hành khách từ Hà Nội vào Huế đã phải quay khẩn cấp về sân bay Nội Bài sau 30 phút cất cánh do động cơ bị trục trặc. Toàn bộ hành khách được sơ tán về khách sạn để bù một chuyến bay khác vào lúc 16h15 chiều cùng ngày. Chiếc A320 đã được đưa vào xưởng để sửa chữa. Nguyên nhân về sự số thì vẫn không được tiết lộ.

Trước đó, hôm 3/2, một chiếc máy bay A330 khác chở theo 278 hành khách trên chặng Nội Bài - Seoul (Hàn Quốc) cũng bị sự cố sau khi cất cánh gần 60 phút. Cùng ngày, một chuyến bay khác từ Điện Biên về Hà Nội cũng bị hủy do cháy một bộ phận của động cơ.

Theo ông Trần Tiến Dũng, quyền Trưởng ban An toàn an ninh Vietnam Airlines, so với cuối năm ngoái tỷ lệ tăng chuyến, tăng tải của hãng vẫn chỉ ở mức 10-15%, trong mức độ cho phép. Tuy nhiên, tỷ lệ máy bay bị lỗi kỹ thuật trong tuần qua khá cao. Vietnam Airlines đã yêu cầu các bộ phận có liên quan thống kê lại toàn bộ các vụ việc và làm rõ nguyên nhân để đánh giá lại đồng thời liên hệ với các hãng chế tạo Airbus, ATR để tìm hiểu thêm xem những máy bay cùng loại trên thế giới có bị hiện tượng tương tự. Hãng cũng đang làm rõ xem yếu tố khí hậu, chuyển mùa có ảnh hưởng tới hoạt động của máy bay.

Chưa làm rõ nguyên nhân song ông Dũng cho hay một số trường hợp có thể là do máy bay mới nhận về nên có những sự cố mà đội kỹ thuật chưa "bắt được bệnh", hoặc ở một số trường hợp khác là do hư hỏng nhỏ khó phát hiện. "Vietnam Airlines đang tích cực tăng cường thêm máy bay, cơ cấu lại các đường bay để tăng cơ số dự phòng, giảm tỷ lệ chậm hủy chuyến", ông Dũng nói.

Hiện tỷ lệ chậm hủy chuyến bay của Vietnam Airlines trong khoảng từ 8-10%. Nguyên nhân chậm hủy chuyến được ghi nhận chủ yếu do lỗi kỹ thuật. Một kỹ sư Xí nghiệp sửa chữa máy bay A76 thừa nhận máy bay hỏng đột xuất nhiều, dự phòng vật tư không đủ thay thế nên nhiều máy bay phải dừng bay chờ thiết bị. Hơn nữa, với khả năng máy móc trình độ thợ như hiện nay việc nhanh chóng khắc phục lỗi kỹ thuật của máy bay là rất khó.

Một hạn chế khác là hai đơn vị sửa chữa máy bay của Vietnam Airlines đặt ở hai đầu đất nước, mỗi đơn vị chuyên bảo dưỡng, sửa chữa một dòng máy bay. A76 ở Nội Bài đảm trách các vấn đề liên quan đến máy bay Airbus, A75 sửa chữa Boeing. Mỗi đầu có một đội sửa chữa cơ động cho dòng khác nhưng với những sự cố phức tạp một chút, thì phải chờ kỹ sư và vật tư thay thế chuyển từ cơ sở sữa chữa chính ra khiến việc khắc phục chậm trễ.

Phong Lan - Hồng Anh

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this is not such a bad news...because it's saying that vnairlines is doing so well, they have to overload the planes to accomodate demands...

positive thinking eh~?!
int'l residence will get familiar with the brand "vietnam airline" through all this matters :lol:
good news though :lol:
let s talk about Pacific Airline in this thread/ change this thread name to 'Vietnam Airline/ Pacific Airline'
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that s a lot to talk ab

Skidlin,

"VietNamNet: The air carrier has not yet found out the reasons behind the troubles; however, it affirmed that it was not because of the overuse of aircrafts" (http://english.vietnamnet.vn/biz/2007/02/662777/)

Their words, not mine. Anyway, the frequent most complaint that I've heard and personally experienced is the scheduled delay. It's way out of the norm for large and efficient airline operation. Another thing doesn't help is the dumb delay due to official use of the airport. Twice during my visit to VN, they held the scheduled landing for 1 extra hour in the air because the official use of the airport!!! Just ridiculous... I asked the co-pilot on my way out whose responsibility for such a dumb thing would be... yup, the airline. Guess who will pay for that cost?

Does anybody wonder why flying to Bangkok is cheaper than flying to Saigon from the States?

Unless they privatize the VN Airlines operation, it's NOT going to get better!!!

--Capee

Skidlin,



Their words, not mine. Anyway, the frequent most complaint that I've heard and personally experienced is the scheduled delay. It's way out of the norm for large and efficient airline operation. Another thing doesn't help is the dumb delay due to official use of the airport. Twice during my visit to VN, they held the scheduled landing for 1 extra hour in the air because the official use of the airport!!! Just ridiculous... I asked the co-pilot on my way out whose responsibility for such a dumb thing would be... yup, the airline. Guess who will pay for that cost?

Does anybody wonder why flying to Bangkok is cheaper than flying to Saigon from the States?

Unless they privatize the VN Airlines operation, it's NOT going to get better!!!

--Capee

Hey Capee,

Bingo! Good observation. VN Airlines is run as a classic SOE. The government is the major shareholder. Publicly traded companies have a board of directors that hire the management team. The board of directors is supposed to look after the interest of the shareholders. Thus, if the management team does not produce profits for the company, they will be replaced. According to Milton Friedman, the purpose of a business is, well, to do business which means to be profitable. The business organization is not meant to be an "iron rice bowl" to feed the mouths of the state employees. Therefore, the company should learn to compete commercially with its competitors. It should benchmark itself with other quality airlines such as Singapore Air, Asiana, and such.

I doubt any member of its management team has an MBA at all.

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i guess it can also be due to bad quality airbus and atr. bangkok has a very low landing fee for its well run airport as the regional hub of SEA...

Skidlin,

Bad quality Airbus and ATR!!! No... Let me say again so you don't have to make excuse for them OK... The international airline communities HAVE TO FACTOR the ADDITIONAL COST INCURRED when dealing with the ridiculous inefficient run airport, fuel cost due to holdings and delays.

--Capee

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Skidlin,

Does anybody wonder why flying to Bangkok is cheaper than flying to Saigon from the States?

Unless they privatize the VN Airlines operation, it's NOT going to get better!!!

--Capee

There must be a lot more people travelling to Bangkok than to Saigon, at the present time. And the more airlines are flying there, (more competition among them) the better price consumers are going to get.

^^i'm just saying what the articles are saying...you just have personal issues with the airline...i understand how you dislike them

When I fly into Vietnam, I always choose Vietnam Airlines if given the choice. I know the service is mediocre, but the ability to speak and listen to Vietnamese on an airlines is worth it for me. So far the only international routes I have flown on Vietnam Airlines are HongKong-Hanoi and Saigon-HongKong.

One time I got to fly Hanoi-Saigon on the then new B777. It was awesome. And it was a discounted flight (last flight of the day) when they needed the plane to take off from SG the next morning on an international flight. The interior was beautiful with the golden lotus design of the airlines.

hihi...same attitude as me...I don't care of anything...just want that our country become as fast as possible an industrial country ^_^...so support our economy, support Vietnam Airlines!!!

There must be a lot more people travelling to Bangkok than to Saigon, at the present time. And the more airlines are flying there, (more competition among them) the better price consumers are going to get.

famster,

The most expensive operating cost item for airlines is fuel (I'm in the business). The more competition will help consumers in terms of low profit margin but airlines won't cut into their operating profit for something they can't control.

--Capee

..

If you remember the turbo fan engines that VN Airlines ordered for their fleet, those are short haul engines (very efficient due to high pressure ratio between entry/intake). You can't use short haul engine for trans-Pac flight since the long haul engines have different requirement (less efficient but last longer due to margin of safety in design). Guess what these "smart" people ordered for their fleet to fly trans-Pac.

I haven't heard anybody getting fired from that goof!!!

--Capee

If you remember the turbo fan engines that VN Airlines ordered for their fleet, those are short haul engines (very efficient due to high pressure ratio between entry/intake). You can't use short haul engine for trans-Pac flight since the long haul engines have different requirement (less efficient but last longer due to margin of safety in design). Guess what these "smart" people ordered for their fleet to fly trans-Pac.

I haven't heard anybody getting fired from that goof!!!

--Capee

Hey Capee,

I didn't know you're in the aviation business. Do you belong to Vietnamese in Aviation forum. I'm a member there, although, I have not been in the forum for a while. A very good friend of mine (who is like a father to me) was a VNAF pilot who was also a Air Vietnam pilot introduced me to the site. He piloted the South Vietnamese delegation to the Paris peace talks. Anyway, very intersting person. He also flew one of the few strike missions by the VNAF up North. I'm working on his memoirs at the moment. But check out Vietnamese in Aviation if you have a chance.

Siddude,
Yes I am... No, I don't belong to any Vietnamese in Aviation forum. Very interesting to hear you're working on VNAF pilot memoir...

--Capee

Hi Guys! Vietnamairlines has just put in its testing version website at the same web address. Please visit and share your opinions about it. Do you think it is well designed and look good? Remember it is just a testing version. Thankx

wat is the difference between this http://www.vietnamair.com.vn/ and these two? http://www.vietnamairlines.com/ & http://www.vietnamairlines.com.vn/

wat is the difference between this http://www.vietnamair.com.vn/ and these two? http://www.vietnamairlines.com/ & http://www.vietnamairlines.com.vn

There is no difference among these addresses. They all lead to the same site. I think they should have photos of the fleet. I did not see any photos of planes in the fleet section.

There is no difference among these addresses. They all lead to the same site. I think they should have photos of the fleet. I did not see any photos of planes in the fleet section.

no this http://www.vietnamair.com.vn/ connects to a beta website
but, http://www.vietnamairlines.com.vn/ and http://www.vietnamairlines.com./ connects to a bullshit u/c website

no this http://www.vietnamair.com.vn/ connects to a beta website
but, http://www.vietnamairlines.com.vn/ and http://www.vietnamairlines.com./ connects to a bullshit u/c website

no, they all lead to the same beta version.

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Vietnam Airlines to rank second in regional aviation

source: VOV (Vietnam Airlines to rank second in regional aviation)


The national flag carrier, Vietnam Airlines, aims to become the second largest airlines in the Southeast Asian region by 2015, just after Singapore.

As planned, Vietnam Airlines will develop its fleet, improve the quality of services and increase the number of aircraft to 104 in 2015 and 150 in 2020.

The airlines currently ranks fourth in the region with 50 aircraft operating on 29 domestic and 36 international air routes.

To achieve this goal, Vietnam Airlines will focus on upgrading air routes, developing infrastructure, training pilots and improving maintenance work.

I think Vietnam Airlines can make it to second best! but it is kinda of hard when your a 3 star airlines when there are two 5 star airlines and one 4 star airline in the region! But VN comes in an earned 4th place!

1. Singapore Airlines (5 stars)
2. Malaysia Airlines (5 stars) - not for long!
3. Thai Airways (4 stars)
4. Vietnam Airlines (3 stars)
5. Phillipine Airlines (3 stars)
6. Garuda Indonesia (3 stars)

I think Malaysia Airlines domestic service is a joke! I rather go on VN's a320's then their 737's anyday! plus Vn provides better service i believe! but they do have friendly staff. Vn should become 4 stars by next year when they hopefully join SkyTeam! :)

Vietnam airlines provides good service but their meals are awful, even in business class it's hard to digest its so called signature dishes.

Vn should become 4 stars by next year when they hopefully join SkyTeam! :)

so the Skyteam logo will be seen on the livery then? eew...I don't like that idea for some odd reason :D

^^ well it would look better than oneworld's! If JAL can convince VN to join them but they are pretty much falling apart. But it would be great to see VN join an alliance before PAL & Garuda! :) :) :) It proves that VN is the next bigg major carrier in the region!!!! :)

1st: Star Alliance has got Singapore Airlines & Thai Airways.

2nd: Skyteam & oneworld both have no member in the SEA.

3rd: Malaysia Airlines considers to join Skyteam in 2009/2010.

4th: Garuda Indonesia is currently banned from flying to the European Union.

5th: PAL has not even recovered from 1997 Asia Economic Crisis.

6th: From the remaining airlines (Garuda; PAL; Vietnam Airlines) only Vietnam Airlines seems to have a growth will/potential & agressive backing by the government.

-> Vietnam's Long Thanh Airport has the advantage, that it's in the center of SEAsia.
-> 2 new major airports as backbone (Long Thanh; new Hanoi airport) 'till 2020/25 + ~ 20 additional smaller airports, which will soon be international standard & could function as backup.
-> new routes to NAmerica, Middle East, more routes to Europe soon to be open.
-> new long range aircrafts for intercontinental flights on order (787 Dreamliner & A350 + already eyeing for the 747-8 & A380)

Vietnam Airlines is surely the hottest bride besides Malaysia Airlines in SEAsia.

oh....why is Garuda Indonesia banned from flying to EU? Will Vietnam Airlines have possible flights to South America and Africa as well? However, I'm very happy for Vietnam Airlines. When will the Dreamliners arrive in VN? I guess not this year anymore.

oh....why is Garuda Indonesia banned from flying to EU? Will Vietnam Airlines have possible flights to South America and Africa as well? However, I'm very happy for Vietnam Airlines. When will the Dreamliners arrive in VN? I guess not this year anymore.

I think Garuda Indonesia wants to use quite old aircrafts to fly to Europe & also the ban is mostly enforce due safety concerns.

I don't know, but Vietnam's commerce relationship with SAmerica is (currently) very small, but I would put a bet on routes to Caracas (Venezuela) & Rio (Brasil) around 2013/15 or even earlier, because of Venezuela's oil & Brasil's raw materials/growing political weight.
Also Vietnam's exporters want to become less dependent from Chinese/EU and especially from the USAmerican market. The Vietnamese government/corps will agressively targeting SAmerica.

South Africa might be an option in the future, but I don't think there is much to earn for Vietnam Airlines in the other African countries.

The problem is that flights from VN to South America would be ultra long haul routes - requiring special version from Boeing/Airbus.

Thanks to the striking workers of Boeing in Everett the first Dreamliner will arrive in VN in 2011. I think it will then be used on the nonstop Saigon/Hanoi - Los Angeles route.
I read sometimes ago that Vietnam Airlines is negotiating with the FAA on route between Saigon and Houston in the future (same problem like potetial flights to SAmerica).

The world leading aircraft manufacturer Airbus will grant a sum of 850,000 EUR to the Bay Viet (Vietnam Flight) Training Company to help train pilots for Vietnam.
An agreement regarding the project, jointly funded by Airbus’s parent firm - the Engineering Architectural and Design Services (EADS) - was signed on March 5.
France-based ESMA Aviation Academy will provide consultancy and technical assistance for the project.
Also on March 5, Bay Viet opened its first pilot pre-qualification training course in Ho Chi Minh City for 15 students. Excellent graduates will be selected for further professional training to work as lecturers at the school.
A pilot training centre will be established at the Vung Tau airport. The first pilot training course is scheduled to commence next June to meet growing demand for pilots in the country.
Every year, the national flag carrier Vietnam Airlines has to hire some 150 foreign pilots and send between 60-80 Vietnamese abroad for training. The country’s other airlines also have to employ most of their pilots from foreign nations.
Headquartered at the Tan Son Nhat Airport, the Bay Viet Training Company was set up by seven stakeholders, Vietnam Airlines, the Vietnam Aircraft Leasing Company, the Service Flight Corporation of Vietnam, the ESMA Aviation Academy, the HiPT Group, the Vietnam Aviation Academy and the Air and Air Defence Force of Vietnam.

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Why opening flight to Brasil&Venezuela? There are like how many? 10 passengers/month? Or they'd prefer the old way, ie wasting taxpayers' money by operating non-profitable routes for political reasons.

VNA should expand on other lacking routes, for example i'm surprised there are no SGN-Shanghai flight served by VNA, no connection at all between Hanoi and Shanghai, between Hanoi and Chengdu and other major Chinese cities, on the European side, they should open Hanoi-London line which could be quite profitable.

SGN-SFO or SGN-LAX is a must in the near future.

Other possibilities:

HAN-Jakarta
SGN-Dubai
SGN-Kunming
HAN-Nanning
HAN-Guilin
HAN-Manila
Danang-Hong Kong
Hanoi-Hainan
Danang-Hainan
Can Tho-Da Nang
Hai Phong-HKG...
etc.

VN flies their 777's to my home town, Melbourne! They just introduced a new Friday service! fr 3 to 4 weekly, but the Thursday flights are now pretty empty thanks to the friday flights but could VN obtain a daily sevice using 777's Tuesdays, Fridays & Saturdays and use their a330's on other days?, it would be great to see them everyday!

Vietnam Airlines expressed once that it wishes to fly to India. Praha might be a possible destination in the near future as well. It could serve (beside Moscow) the whole Eastern bloc, where a lot of Vietnamese live.

Vietnam Airlines expressed once that it wishes to fly to India. Praha might be a possible destination in the near future as well. It could serve (beside Moscow) the whole Eastern bloc, where a lot of Vietnamese live.

There should be more routes to U.S.A too. Lots of viets overseas travel to vietnam every year. :)

Vietnam Airlines trebles passengers in last decade; currently serves just three European destinations but not London

source: anna.aero
(http://www.anna.aero/2009/03/13/vietnam-airlines-trebles-passengers-in-last-decade/)

In less than 10 years Vietnam Airlines has trebled its passenger numbers from less than 2.5 million in 1998 to 7.5 million in 2007. Average load factor was just over 76% in 2007. Growth was briefly interrupted in 2003 by the SARS outbreak in the region which affected international air travel.

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The airline operates two main bases in Vietnam; Hanoi in the north of the country and Ho Chi Minh City (formerly known as Saigon) in the south. Currently Vietnam Airlines (VN) operates 76 weekly departures between the two major hubs. The key statistics for the two hubs are shown below.

Jetstar Pacific, formerly known as Pacific Airlines, is part-owned by Qantas hence the re-branding in May 2008. It operates primarily on domestic routes apart from a daily Bangkok service from Ho Chi Minh City.

The last new route started by Vietnam Airlines appears to be a four-times weekly service from Hanoi to Nagoya in Japan which began on 12 August last year using an A321.

Just five long-haul routes; three in Europe and two in Australia

Vietnam Airlines operates just five long-haul routes using some of its fleet of 10 777s. In Europe Frankfurt, Moscow Domodedovo and Paris CDG are all served (less than daily) non-stop from both Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh City. The lack of readily available slots at Heathrow may be a factor in the airline not currently serving London. Melbourne and Sydney are both served non-stop four times weekly from Ho Chi Minh City.

The airline has a code-share arrangement with American Airlines that allows it to offer flights to the US via Frankfurt or Paris (for east coast destinations), and Taipei or Tokyo (for west coast destinations). A service to Heathrow would provide even better connections given American’s significant presence at the airport.

^^ I don't know why but why is the article keep on saying that VN doesn't fly to London but should? I actually think VN should also fly to London!- Heathrow :):):)

Photo by royisher / Royi Sher (http://www.flickr.com/people/royisher/)

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at Tan Son Nhat Airport

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There should be more routes to U.S.A too. Lots of viets overseas travel to vietnam every year. :)

This statement is true. I would definitely try to support Vietnam airlines if they do fly to the US. That is if their price is comparable to the other airlines flying to Vietnam. The other questions I don't know. How do they treat overseas Vietnamese? Are they doing us a favor by flying us to Vietnam or is it the other way around? When will they become as professional as SIA? I mean I would not entrust my life to Vietnam Airlines when I keep hearing news of pilots and flight attendants involved in smuggling etc. I mean if the higher paid pilots and flight attendants are involved in illegal activities what is happening in the other parts of the organization? Are the mechanics installing inferior parts? Is the food service substituting inferior ingredients and pocketing the difference? The statment below is from a customer in Vietnam which can be found at http://vietnamesegod.blogspot.com/:

"Another queuing nightmare is the Noi Bai Airport. I remember one situation two years ago when I flew to Ho Chi Minh City for Tet. I went to the airport two and a half hours in advance because I knew there would be thousands of people there at the same time. A problem came up when the Vietnam airlines staff gave our seats to their relatives or people they know and they told us that we came late and the plane had no seats left. More than 50 passengers including me shouted at the Vietnam airlines staff. We know this is a bad airline but we had no choice. Two hours later, they announced that our new flight was delayed without any excuse. We arrived in Ho Chi Minh City at 1 am, 5 hours later than our plan."

I like this pic:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tphoangviet/2793196502/in/photostream/

Guys, do you read the previous posts? :bash:

^^ I don't know why but why is the article keep on saying that VN doesn't fly to London but should? I actually think VN should also fly to London!- Heathrow :):):)

There will be flights to London soon, but the problem is that air traffic is much more regulated than any other form of transportation. London-Heathrow has currently a flight-slot problem aka: If British airlines (Virgin, BA) get flights permit for Vietnamese airports, so vice versa. It looks like more that the British have problem to get some free slots for Vietnam Airlines - not vice versa.

This statement is true. I would definitely try to support Vietnam airlines if they do fly to the US. That is if their price is comparable to the other airlines flying to Vietnam. The other questions I don't know. How do they treat overseas Vietnamese? Are they doing us a favor by flying us to Vietnam or is it the other way around? When will they become as professional as SIA? I mean I would not entrust my life to Vietnam Airlines when I keep hearing news of pilots and flight attendants involved in smuggling etc. I mean if the higher paid pilots and flight attendants are involved in illegal activities what is happening in the other parts of the organization? Are the mechanics installing inferior parts? Is the food service substituting inferior ingredients and pocketing the difference? The statment below is from a customer in Vietnam which can be found at http://vietnamesegod.blogspot.com/:

"Another queuing nightmare is the Noi Bai Airport. I remember one situation two years ago when I flew to Ho Chi Minh City for Tet. I went to the airport two and a half hours in advance because I knew there would be thousands of people there at the same time. A problem came up when the Vietnam airlines staff gave our seats to their relatives or people they know and they told us that we came late and the plane had no seats left. More than 50 passengers including me shouted at the Vietnam airlines staff. We know this is a bad airline but we had no choice. Two hours later, they announced that our new flight was delayed without any excuse. We arrived in Ho Chi Minh City at 1 am, 5 hours later than our plan."

FACT IS: VIETNAM WILL FLY TO THE US SOON!
There are only technical hurdles (connecting Vietnamese immigration systems to the US ones - you know security and so on. Dreamliner delay..)

Customer is customer - Viet/Kieu, Foreigner ....
If you pay the ticket price for a 3* airlines, than you should not expect to get 5* service, get it?
Travelling at Tet/Christmas or other important holidays is always stressful - no need to complain.
Nearly all airlines operate with the overbook method - meaning selling more tickets than seats are available, they calculate/predict a certain amount of cancelled bookings.
But as you can see, sometimes they make wrong calculations. Some years ago I & my family were placed into Business class of a Thai Airways flight from Frankfurt to Bangkok due real overbooking of economy class. A friend of mine even flew from Madrid to Rio/Brazil in First Class. If your (Economy class) flight is overbook, stay hard & insist on your (Business/First class) flight! :)

Not that I tolerate the criminal behaviour of certain employers of Vietnam Airlines, the technical staff of Vietnam Airlines is certified - no need to worry,
BTW human fault can happen everywhere.

He Vietnam Airlines is a latecomer to the business, but already on par with many other 3* airlines, which started decades before Vietnam and more it's still earing a small profit - unlike many other airlines, which are in deep red numbers. :)

I like this pic:
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This pool also ^^^^^^

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Soon to be in the fleet ^^

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We have a dream..................!!! :cheers:

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VNA could fly to London Gatwick like a lot of airlines already do.

Italy’s national carrier targets Vietnam Airlines

source: VOVNEWS.VN (http://english.vovnews.vn/Home/Italys-national-carrier-targets-Vietnam-Airlines/20093/102551.vov)


Italy’s aviation group Alitalia plans to strengthen its ties with Asian countries to tap the potential of newly-emerging markets, according to the Italian News Agency ANSA.

Altalia’s President Roberto Colaninno said that the group will consider the possibility of sharing air routes to Europe and Asia with Vietnam Airlines.

According to the Rome daily newspaper II Messaggero, there are two reasons why Altalia has targeted Vietnam Airlines as a partner. First, many of Vietnam’s airlines do not operate in Italy but would like to get a foothold in the market. Second, Vietnam has been developing rapidly and catching a lot of attention from Italian businesses over the past few years.

If you pay the ticket price for a 3* airlines, than you should not expect to get 5* service, get it?
Travelling at Tet/Christmas or other important holidays is always stressful - no need to complain.
Nearly all airlines operate with the overbook method - meaning selling more tickets than seats are available, they calculate/predict a certain amount of cancelled bookings.
But as you can see, sometimes they make wrong calculations. Some years ago I & my family were placed into Business class of a Thai Airways flight from Frankfurt to Bangkok due real overbooking of economy class. A friend of mine even flew from Madrid to Rio/Brazil in First Class. If your (Economy class) flight is overbook, stay hard & insist on your (Business/First class) flight! :)

Not that I tolerate the criminal behaviour of certain employers of Vietnam Airlines, the technical staff of Vietnam Airlines is certified - no need to worry,
BTW human fault can happen everywhere.

He Vietnam Airlines is a latecomer to the business, but already on par with many other 3* airlines, which started decades before Vietnam and more it's still earing a small profit - unlike many other airlines, which are in deep red numbers. :)

I wouldn't mind paying a 3* price if the expected service is really 3*. With most things from Vietnam a 3* price might mean a 2* service. As you say, Vietnam is a latecomer to the business. To get ahead, it must provide something that others with better prestige are not providing already. The only advantage I can see might be direct connection to Vietnam. Other than that, why should I waste money with Vietnam Airlines if they are less then or the same as other established airlines? If they do provide a 5* experience at a 3* or a 4* price, I am pretty sure they will definitely overcome most ppl hesitation to give them a try. They should definitely delay their entry into the US until they get everything down right. The US is a very fickle market not like a monopoly in Vietnam. A great company they should learn from is Hyundai - great quality 4* cars at a 2* price.

No, not Alitalia please! They are already bankrupt & other major airlines like Lufthansa turndowned offers from the Italian government to buy stakes from them. Alitalia is the prime example hown not to run a state-owned airline. :ohno:

Vietnam Airlines Buys 39 New Aircrafts

The Vietnam Airlines, the national flag carrier will upgrade and expand its fleet after placing orders for 39 new aircrafts including Boeing 787-9s, Airbus A350-900s and A321s.
In this regard, the Vietnam Airlines will suspend the operation some aircrafts operation between June 2009 to January 2010, General Director Pham Ngoc Minh said Monday.
Speaking to the Vietnam news agency (VNA), he however said that the suspension will not affect the carrier's service.
"With the arrival of these new aircrafts, this is an opportunity for Vietnam Airlines to refurbish the interiors and conduct maintenance and upgrade of equipment of its existing fleet," he said, adding that between June 2009 to May 2010, the carrier will replace its ATR72-200s with 14 modern ATR72-500s.
The carrier's fleet is expected to comprise 104 units of aircraft by 2015 and 150 by 2010.
In the second half of last year Vietnam Airlines had 48 units of aircraft, including 10 Airbus A320-200s, 13 Airbus A321s, 3 Airbus A330s, and 10 boeing 777-200 ERs.

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Vietnam Airlines to ground aircraft for upgrade, CEO says
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Vietnam Airlines has announced it will ground a number of its aircraft between June 2009 and January 2010 for maintenance and upgrade work.
This would not affect either the airline’s domestic or international schedules, said the national carrier’s President & CEO, Pham Ngoc Minh.
He did not elaborate on the number and kinds of aircraft that will be grounded.
Vietnam Airlines, Southeast Asia’s fourth largest airline, has a fleet of about 50 aircraft that fly 29 domestic and 36 international routes.
Its revenues in 2008 rose 31 percent year on year to VND26.6 trillion (US$1.5 billion), but pretax profits plunged 35 percent to VND240 billion ($13.7 million) as fuel prices soared earlier in the year and the economic slowdown hurt traveling demand later.
Minh said this year would be “extremely difficult” as the aviation market may shrink significantly while competition gets increasingly tougher.
However, he said, Vietnam Airlines would take this opportunity to improve its services and expand its fleet to become the second largest carrier in Southeast Asia after Singapore Airlines by 2015.
The carrier has ordered a total of 39 Boeing 787-9, Airbus A350-900 and A321 aircrafts.
Its current fleet of ATR72-200 airplanes will be gradually replaced by 14 ATR72-500 between June 2009 and May 2010, Minh said.
The national carrier expects its fleet to expand to 104 aircraft by 2015 and to 150 by 202

They seem to use the current decline for some major upgrades.

I'm actually glad VN oredered their 787's early or they would have to wait even longer, also smart with the a350's orders! :) expect 787's early next year or middle of next yr.

^^ with refurbishment i hope all a330's & 777's get PTV's in all classes! with new business class product! and hopefully First Class! :)

soorox, just being curious, your location reads 'Docklands' , are you currently in London?

soorox, just being curious, your location reads 'Docklands' , are you currently in London?

I would guess it's the Melbourne docklands.

^^ if you read the furst post of this page you would noe! :)
yeh i from Melbourne, Docklands! :) a wonderful place to live, in a beautiful place in Melbourne.

BUT! ABIT OFF TOPIC!

also in news; Vietnam Airlines sued for being sacked by VN?

Vietnam may receive Boeing B787 Dreamliners next year

source: Thanh Nien News (http://www.thanhniennews.com/business/?catid=2&newsid=47349)


Vietnam may begin to receive delivery of the 16 Boeing B787 Dreamliners it has ordered in the first quarter of 2010, Stanley A. Deal, Boeing’s sales vice president for Asia-Pacific, told the media in Hanoi Tuesday.

Boeing has not yet announced the delivery schedule, he said, adding that the B787, work on which began in August 2007, is expected to have its first trial flight in the first quarter. Boeing and its partners are discussing the handover schedule, he said.

Vietnam Airlines and the Vietnam Aircraft Leasing Company have each signed contracts for buying eight B787s.

Reported by Bao Van

Boeing to help Vietnam assembly aircraft components in June

source: xinhuanet (http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-03/25/content_11069750.htm)


HANOI, March 25 (Xinhua) -- Boeing, the world's largest manufacturer of commercial jetliners and military aircraft, said that it will help Vietnam assembly aircraft components in June this year, the local newspaper New Hanoi reported Wednesday.

The announcement was made by Stanley A. Deal, Pacific-Asian Sale Executive Vice Chairman of Boeing Company at a working visit to Vietnam.

Stanley A. Deal highlighted Vietnam for its civil aviation safety, flight security and the opportunities and potential for Vietnamese civil aviation sector development, even in the context of the ongoing global economic downturn.

Therefore, the Boeing will cooperate closely with the national flag carrier Vietnam Airlines in the process of development, said Stanley.

Initially, the assembly for winglets of the aircraft will be kicked off at Hanoi-based Thang Long industrial zone in June. The Mitsubishi Heavy Industries Ltd (MHI), one of the big players in Japan's heavy industry sector, will partially involve in the manufacture.

Vietnam Airlines went on to record annual revenue of 15.3 million U.S. dollars in 2008, representing an increase of 31.32 percent over 2007.

Editor: Deng Shash

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Vietnam Airlines to Join SkyTeam! & Lovin them a321's & buying more!!!!!

http://army.qdnd.vn/vietnam.economy.enews.24116.qdnd

I found this pic thinking it was a nice shot but not sure where about this city is, do you know?

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wow plan fly too low

I found this pic thinking it was a nice shot but not sure where about this city is, do you know?

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Kansai International Airport, Osaka, Japan (KIX)
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Nice shot:
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Thanks White Bear, nice shot.

Vietnam Airlines will receive engine MRO and management support from SR Technics and Pratt & Whitney under new contracts announced at AVIATION WEEK's MRO Americas conference here.
SR Technics, which also announced that Abu Dhabi Aircraft Technologies' parent Mubadala Development Co. has acquired a controlling interest of its shares, will provide MRO services for the Hanoi-based carrier at its engine service center in Zurich. The three-year contract covers 23 CFM56-5B engines and is an extension of an agreement signed in 2006.
SR Technics also carries out maintenance and overhaul for the Pratt & Whitney PW4168 engines that power Vietnam's A330 fleet. The airline operates a total of 49 aircraft, including Airbus A320 and A330 family aircraft, Boeing 777s, ATR 72s and Fokker 70s, according to AVIATION WEEK's World Aerospace Database.
Engine monitoring services for Vietnam's 58 PW4000 and IAE V2500 engines will be provided by Pratt & Whitney under a five-year engine management contract announced here on Tuesday. The service provides analysis of engine operational data to monitor and forecast engine health, according to the OEM.
Source: Aviation Week

VietJet Air, which will be the first privately-owned Vietnamese airline when it launches later this year, has restructured its management board.
VietJet Air was formed by T&C Group, Sovico Group and HCM City HousingJoint Stock Commercial Bank (HD Bank) with an initial investment capital of VND600 billion (US$37.5 million). Sovico Holdings – a group investing in the numerous strategic industries such as banking and real estate – has since bought T&C’s stake in the airline to become the carrier’s largest stockholder with 82 per cent of its shares.
The carrier has set itself the goal of becoming the leading airline in the country, said VietJet Air director general Nguyen Duc Tam.
Source: VietNamNews

^^ I don't think that VietJetAir will succedd. GO! Vietnam Airlines!!!!!!! + SkyTeam!

The national flag carrier VietNam Airlines and the European Aeronautic Defence and Space Company (EADS) have just discussed the possibility of Viet Nam to become one of the suppliers of EADS.

Accordingly, Vietnam Airlines not only buys Airbus planes but also becomes the partner of EADS - the parent company of Airbus aircraft manufacturing corporation.

Two sides have agreed to establish a co-operation group to develop this project, of which, Vietnam ensures from 1% to 5% of A350 XWB aircraft production line. Initially, this co-operation project focuses on human resource training, aircraft maintenance, spare parts production…

Interesting, first Boeing and now EADS.

^^ maybe to get their a350's early???

Interesting, first Boeing and now EADS.


These company have been trying to woo China, India, VN,... growing markets in the next 20 years to buy their products. The decision to buy what from which company rests on the governments. As a result, China now owns a production of A320 which is a huge benefit, in return China probably will buy more Airbus instead of buying from Boeing who has a larger market share in China up to now. Long time ago, Boeing urged Mitsubitshi to oursouce the production of doors, flaps to VN. Hopefully VN gets more share in aircraft manufacturing, and start building a new high-tech industry. Interesting..

Oh, folks someday you guys will fly made-in-China jets, scary huh? Next 20 maby 40 years we'll see China will design, and build medium to jumbo jets. Already VN and poor countries have placed order of arj-21, first designed and assembled in China commercial airplanes. China is developing this industry very fast thanks to airbus and boeing.

^^

As far as the news go, Vietnam Airlines hasn't ordered any ARJ-21. It's only an updated DC-9....
I only see that Vietnam Airlines has got ATR-72s & Airbus A-321s on order for regional routes.

^^
Could you stop posting bullshit, please?
As far as the news go, Vietnam Airlines hasn't ordered any ARJ-21. It's only an updated DC-9....
I only see that Vietnam Airlines has got ATR-72s & Airbus A-321s on order for regional routes.

My memory is wrong, maybe I am getting tơ old. Nơ nêd to say bullshit.

Oh, folks someday you guys will fly made-in-China jets, scary huh? Next 20 maby 40 years we'll see China will design, and build medium to jumbo jets. Already VN and poor countries have placed order of arj-21, first designed and assembled in China commercial airplanes. China is developing this industry very fast thanks to airbus and boeing.

lol i doutb it....down here ppl were going to boycott the main airline provider cause they shifted all maintenance work to china and travelers didnt like it one bit. cant do much about it since its the main flyer in the country.....

lol i doutb it....down here ppl were going to boycott the main airline provider cause they shifted all maintenance work to china and travelers didnt like it one bit. cant do much about it since its the main flyer in the country.....

If they can flood VN with cheap consumer products why they cannot sell VN some ARJ-21s? I will be reliable and safe anyway since many critical parts are from the West like avionics, navigation system, engines... and most importantly they don't want to fail, and risk their reputation, so they will put safety first.

wonder if VN airline offers 1st class on any routes? and what the 1st class looks like?

If they can flood VN with cheap consumer products why they cannot sell VN some ARJ-21s? I will be reliable and safe anyway since many critical parts are from the West like avionics, navigation system, engines... and most importantly they don't want to fail, and risk their reputation, so they will put safety first.

wonder if VN airline offers 1st class on any routes? and what the 1st class looks like?

If a state-owned airlines buys something, then it's always a political move. I don't see Vietnam Airlines buying ARJ-21 in short/medium term. Maybe in longterm perspective.

Most airlines are going for a Business Class/Deluxe Economy Class/Economy Class configuration. If you read the earlier post, than you would know that Vietnam Airlines is going to overhaul their interior design/configuration. Let's wait & see.

On 19th May 2009, Vietnam Airlines has introduced the newly upgraded website with enhanced functions and services.

The currently available domestic destinations have been complemented with a wide choice of flights to international destinations in North East Asia, South East Asia, Indochina and Australia.
Vietnam Airlines continues to accept online payments with the two most popular cards, Visa and MasterCard. Security of online payments has been enhanced further with the introduction of Verified by Visa and MasterCard SecureCode features, providing customers with another level of protection against unauthorized transactions.
Members of Golden Lotus Plus, Vietnam Airlines’ frequent flyer program, gain access to all future bookings in one place, regardless of where they were purchased. The same GLP member ID and password can be used to access frequent flyer account details.
Customers who are not Golden Lotus Plus members can enroll online. Although GLP membership is not required for purchasing tickets on www.vietnamairlines.com, it provides additional convenience features to customers.
Vietnam Airlines website provides new capabilities to view and print itineraries and electronic tickets, forward travel details to friends, and set up flight notifications using Sabre Virtually There functionality. Sabre Virtually There can be accessed via the booking website or by going directly to www.virtuallythere.com/VN.
Vietnam Airlines continues to enhance our online services to meet the diverse demands of our customers.

I actually want Vietnam Airlines to at least get 2 747's or a380's. I would actually want them to offer a new First (to compete with SQ), a new Bussiness product for long-haul and economy+ & economy is fine, just upgrade the AVOD!

I wonder if VN offer bussiness on their a330's? 1 more will join the fllet soon!

I just can't wait to see a VN bird (777) in SkyTeam colours next year!!! :banana:

I actually want Vietnam Airlines to at least get 2 747's or a380's. I would actually want them to offer a new First (to compete with SQ), a new Bussiness product for long-haul and economy+ & economy is fine, just upgrade the AVOD!

I wonder if VN offer bussiness on their a330's? 1 more will join the fllet soon!

I just can't wait to see a VN bird (777) in SkyTeam colours next year!!! :banana:

Can VN airlines fill up seats in 747 or a380 on any route? These are 2 giants and hard to fill up to 80% all year round. I knew Emirate had to stop using A380 on some routes due to economy slowdown. I want to see 787, but right now Boeing just finished first test phase. they have had so many problems with this new bird, and keep delaying the schedule.

Can VN airlines fill up seats in 747 or a380 on any route? These are 2 giants and hard to fill up to 80% all year round. I knew Emirate had to stop using A380 on some routes due to economy slowdown. I want to see 787, but right now Boeing just finished first test phase. they have had so many problems with this new bird, and keep delaying the schedule.

Vietnam Airlines has currently one of the highest occupancy rates.
The base disput among airlines/airports/aviation industry is how air traffic will develop in the next decades.

Is it the hubs, which will gain even more importance?
A380 & 747-8 Intercontinental

Or will there be much more direct routes?
A350XWB & 777/787

Anyway pior the opening of Long Thanh Airport & "new northern major airport" no A380/747-8 can operate regularly from Vietnam.

I believe they can fill up at least x2 daily SGN-HAN on the 747's and they can use them on busy long-haul routes during tet or end of the year to MEL, SYD, CDG, FRA & NRT etc..... But 2 747's are about fair I say or maybe 2-5 747's, Would be amazing to see them in VN colours! :)

Can they fill up 747 after peak seasons? But first how were B747 configured? 3 classes or 2 or 1 economy? If all economy configured, then maybe it is hard to fill up. 1st-business-economy, or business-economy then they must fill up these 2 upper classes. Does VN airlines do well with 1st, business class compared to other ailines in the region?

Right now old 747-400 is not as economical as B777-ER, 747-I is better fuel consumption but 50 more seats than 747-400.

Looks like point2point is the trend nowadays, VN airlines maybe better off with A350,B777,B787. Few and fewer airlines use big birds like B747,A380. Look at A380 sales, it is still low, while B787 gets 900 sales, A350 400 sales.

^^ Vietnam Airlines is surprinsingly cheaper in Bussiness for pax arriving fr Europe to SE Asia than MH, TG & SQ, but still their Bussiness class is outdated, even Royal Brunei have better seats & now Garuda. So I say they can have 747's in 3 class, Bussiness, Deluxe & Economy, SGN-HAN runs are pretty busy all year round but we all know that when the end of year holidays come along VN needs planes size of 747's

Only if the Vietnamese governemnt lifts visa requirements to transitting pax than Vietnam Airlines can have seamless connections, you can't expect Long Thanh Airport to be a major HUB if you charge people for visa's for transitting. Maybe the joining of SkyTeam maybe force the Vietnamese governement to drop the visa requirements

Guys, what are you talking about?

CURRENTLY NO 747 & A380 can operate from Vietnamese airports. Those are not optimized for those large aircrafts - period.

IF Vietnam Airlines would already have 747/A380, it would in deficit right now.
Substainable growth.

mynameischarlie, i'm not getting what your trying to say, I thought Tan Son Nhat can accomodate the 747, as China Airlines, EVA air, Air France, Lufthansa etc... operate them there, Vietnam Airlines would also be operating those aircrafts on International routes

mynameischarlie, i'm not getting what your trying to say, I thought Tan Son Nhat can accomodate the 747, as China Airlines, EVA air, Air France, Lufthansa etc... operate them there, Vietnam Airlines would also be operating those aircrafts on International routes

"can operate them there" =/= "operate & base from there"

enough air-brigdes at the terminals?
capacity for higher amount of luggage?
Support facilites?
Repair capabilities?

I mean the Sukhoi-27/30 ordered by the VPAF are delivered by An-124. Thanks to their military origin, they could land & start from Vietnamese airports. :nuts:

I'm hope that Long Thanh Airport/new Northern major airport will offer the necessary facilities for those big birds.

News:

A consortium of banks Thursday signed loans with Vietnam Airlines to finance the purchase of six short-haul aircraft from French manufacturer ATR, HSBC Bank (Vietnam) said.
It said Swiss bank Credit Suisse and Techcombank of Vietnam would also contribute to a 120-million-dollar package to finance the purchase of the ATR 72-500 turboprop planes.
"With this financing package, Vietnam Airlines has assured the completion of its ATR fleet renewal and expansion plan, which aims to enhance our operating efficiency on short-haul routes," the news release quoted Pham Ngoc Minh, Vietnam Airlines' president and chief executive officer, as saying.
The state-run carrier signed a contract for the six aircraft in December. They are in addition to five ATR 72-500s already on order, ATR officials said at the time. Three of the planes are already in service with the airline, meaning the ATR 72-500 fleet will soon reach 14 in all.
Minh said in December that the 11 new planes, to be delivered this year and next, would help meet rising demand for short-haul routes and promote tourism, investment and trade in Vietnam and its surrounding region.
They will replace older ATR 72-200s.
Vietnam Airlines, which serves domestic, regional and international routes, expects by 2020 to triple its overall fleet of 50 aircraft, which includes Boeing 777 and Airbus A330 planes. Officials say the carrier is seeking to become one of the region's best airlines.
ATR, based in Toulouse, France, is a joint venture between Alenia Aeronautica and European aerospace giant EADS.

European aerospace giant EADS, Airbus's parent company, expects no change in the number of deliveries this year despite global economic woes, its chief executive officer Louis Gallois said Friday.
"For 2009, we expect to deliver the same number of airplanes as last year. The same number would be plus or minus a limited number, a couple of airplanes," he told reporters.
"For 2010 and 2011 visibility is more limited," he said during a business trip to the Vietnamese capital.
On Thursday the International Air Transport Association said the outlook for aviation remains bleak during a global recession that has shrunk passenger and cargo demand.
"I think 2010 will be a crucial year for the crisis. We will see the depth of the crisis," Gallois said. "I hope this crisis is not too deep but we are prepared to face all scenarios."
Airbus delivered 483 planes in 2008. Its products include the world's largest passenger jet, the superjumbo A380.
Airbus sales director John Leahy said last month that the number of orders this year was likely to fall below 300.
Gallois said the company was not expecting big orders at this month's International Paris Air Show.
The CEO was in Vietnam for talks with local authorities and state carrier Vietnam Airlines, which is modernising its fleet, about building "a long-term partnership."
Airbus in December 2007 signed deals for 30 passenger jets with Vietnam Airlines and a local aircraft leasing company.
That deal came a month after Vietnam and US aircraft maker Boeing signed agreements for twelve 787-8 Dreamliners.

^^ I actually think that Vietnamese airports (SGN & HAN) can actually base 1 or 2 747's, SGN's old terminal can accomadate the 747

But with maintenance I don't know if they can do it as well as luggage capacity, although they have actually been out before I have a couple of times at SGN

Although not right now but hopefull Long Thanh can actually be a bigg hub for Vietnam Airlines so they can expand their services and accomodate larger aircraft like 747's & A380's

VIETNAM AIRLINES TO TRIPLE ITS FLEET BY 2020

source: TM (http://www.tradingmarkets.com/.site/news/Stock%20News/2369969/)


HANOI, Jun 11, 2009
Vietnam Airlines is planning to triple its fleet from current 50 to 150 aircraft by 2020.

General Director of the national flag carrier Pham Ngoc Minh said that the corporation will improve its service quality to turn into the second biggest Southeast Asian carrier after Singapore Airlines in 2015 with 104 aircraft.

To reach the target, the airlines will order for the purchase of 39 Boeing 787-9 and Airbus A350-900 and A321 aircraft.

It will also gradually replace ATR72-200 planes used for domestic short-haul routes with 14 modern ATR 72-500s.

New-generation ATR 72-500 aircraft are expected to be delivered between June 2009 and May 2010.

The corporation is currently using 50 planes for 29 domestic routes and 36 international ones.

(VNA)

That's very ambitious. Vietnam Airlines needs to improve their customer service and hire better (and more beautiful) mannered stewarts and stewardesses for a better flight experience.

Vietnam Airlines is planning to buy two long-haul Airbus A350 jets and 16 medium-haul A321s, the airline's chairman told AFP on Monday at the Paris Air Show.
The catalogue price for the jets is 1.9 billion dollars (1.4 billion euros).
"We are going to sign a memorandum of understanding this week during the air show," said Nguyen Sy Hung, chairman of Vietnam Airlines.
Also on Monday, the airline signed a contract with European aircraft maker ATR to buy two ATR 72-500 turbo-prop passenger planes for 41 million euros.
Vietnam Airlines is in the process of renewing its fleet and put in orders for 30 Airbus jets in 2007. The airline has a fleet of 50 planes and carries nine million passengers a year.

Skyteam's new player in SEA is serious with expansion.

Vietnam Airlines đặt mua 18 máy bay Airbus
Thứ tư, 17/06/2009, 14:02 (GMT+7)

(SGGP 12G).- Thông tin từ Airbus cho biết, tại triển lãm hàng không Le Bourget hôm nay, 17-6, Vietnam Airlines (VNA) đã ký hợp đồng mua thêm 16 máy bay một lối đi Airbus A321 và ký Biên bản ghi nhớ mua thêm 2 chiếc A350-XWB. Hợp đồng mua máy bay A321 mới nhất giúp nâng tổng số đơn đặt hàng của VNA lên 41 chiếc, trong đó 14 chiếc đã được bàn giao.

VNA hiện đang khai thác một đội bay gồm 52 chiếc máy bay hiện đại và bay đến 19 điểm đến nội địa và 23 điểm quốc tế.

Ông John Leahy, Giám đốc Điều hành phụ trách khách hàng của Airbus nhận định “Việt Nam sẽ tiếp tục là một trong những thị trường trọng điểm tại châu Á trong thời gian tới. Với dòng máy bay 1 hành lang dọc khoang hành khách và máy bay A350-XWB mới, VNA sẽ điều hành một trong những đội bay hiện đại và hiệu quả nhất trong khu vực và đáp ứng được nhu cầu của cả thị trường châu Á và quốc tế”.

M.Hạnh SGGP

I don't know what you're talking about charlie but SGN has been handling Air France, Cathay P, Lufthansa, UA, China Air... 747s for more than 15 years now.

For A380 a new air bridge would be needed, but that's not a major issue.

Just new air bridge for A380? What about runway, luggage handling, waiting room, etc..? Note A380 also has large wing span, more takeoff weight. I wonder why only a few airports in the world can handle A380?

What about runway?

What about runway?
My memory was wrong as I remembered they mentioned about runway upgrade to accommondate A-380.

VN should buy this bird
http://airbase.ru/hangar/russia/soukhoi/kr/860/img/kr-860.jpg

http://www.gadgetreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/airbus-a380-suites.jpg

I don't know what airline offers this 1st class suit. but SIA has a rule: No sex in the flight. Heard the price for this 1st class can be up to 60K. Man ...people are so rich.

60K to join the Mile High Club:nuts:??? Too rich for me :ohno:

I don't know what you're talking about charlie but SGN has been handling Air France, Cathay P, Lufthansa, UA, China Air... 747s for more than 15 years now.

For A380 a new air bridge would be needed, but that's not a major issue.

Read my previous posts, please!

Germany-based Lufthansa had to invest several hundreds millions € to prepare for the A380, it's more than just some new air-brigdes. Training & logistic cost & life cycle cost has become THE major factors in many branches, not only in the aviation industry. But those cost are not published &or discussed as often as e.g. the procurement cost. Vietnam Airlines should stick with a few models (ATR-72,A321,A350,777,787) but in higher numbers. Introducing more models would cost alot more.
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http://de.rian.ru/safety/20090619/122046378.html

According to this news, the Russia will start negotiations for further deliveries/orders of 8/12 Sukhoi-30 fighters in autumn.

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Eurocopter could be on the verge of a major military deal with Vietnam after confirming that it is in negotiations to sell helicopters to the Southeast Asian country's navy.

The service is in talks to buy several EC225 and EC155 helicopters and Norbert Ducrot, Eurocopter's senior vice-president for sales and customer relations in Asia Pacific, says that a deal could be made before end-2009.

"We are having good discussions with Vietnam on this issue," says Ducrot. "Eurocopter has an excellent relationship with Vietnam and the discussions with the navy are going well. We are hopeful of a breakthrough this year."

The country's navy primarily uses its helicopters for search and rescue and transport missions, according to industry sources. Older Eurocopter helicopters such as the SA365 N2 Dauphin, Eurocopter AS350 B3 Ecureuil, SA330J Puma and AS332 L2 Super Puma are already in service with the country's air force.

Vietnam opened its economy in the early 1990s and registered one of the highest annual gross domestic product growth rates in Asia for several years until last year's global economic crisis. Investment from US and European companies has helped it to wean itself off a dependence on the former Soviet Union and Russia, and that could soon be the case in the military sector as well.

Since the end of the Vietnam War in the 1970s, the country has mostly bought Soviet-bloc and Russian arms. The air force, for instance, has ordered 24 Sukhoi SU-30MK2s and received 12 of them. It seeks more fighters and officials from Lockheed and Boeing say that they have received positive signals about their prospects in what could potentially be a huge market.

Source: Flightglobal.com

Hmm, what's going to be the replacement for MiG-21 & Su-22?

Mig 29 and Su-24 respectively. :) Maybe from North Korea and Belarus again.

Mig 29 and Su-24 respectively. :) Maybe from North Korea and Belarus again.

i read they want to buy add su27/30 (total 72) and mig29 (total 36-72) to replace their mig21 and su22. wikipedia writes they have 180+mig21 in service, whereas only 70-80 are fully operational and would get upgraded from India to mig21-93 standard (?)....so are they getting replaced by the mig29 or not?

su22: i can hardly believe they really so many are in service, wiki writes 145+, i think max the half would be fully operational

i do not think that they will buy western warplanes in the near future as the russian planes have same or even better performance at only 30-40% of the costs

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_People%27s_Air_Force

I don't think VN (Vietnam Airlines) really wants to buy some Russian made aircrafts right now, if they wanted to improve their image that is. They should always consider a 747 or A380, to amp up the competion & service in SE Asia as SQ already have them, MH & TG are also getting them. Introduce brand new products, cause J is a joke compared to other products other airlines serve, even Brunei have a better product!

It looks like VN has finally got their acts together & is building a very big regional network, maybe the A321's can be used to expand SE Asia? as they don't fly to MNL, CDK, DPS etc.. SkyTeam would like to build SGN & HAN into bigg hubs for connecting flights through SE Asia.

Anyone know when the London & USA flights might come into action?

The government’s office has announced a Prime Minister decision of discipline against General Director Pham Ngoc Minh of Vietnam Airlines.

Accordingly, the disciplinary measure imposed on Minh is an official warning. Previously, the Ministry of Home Affairs and Vietnam Airlines submitted a report to the Prime Minister about Minh.
The decision took effect on the day of signing, June 29, but it didn’t mention why the top official of Vietnam Airlines had been warned.
Pham Ngoc Minh replaced Nguyen Si Hung, who is now Vietnam Airlines’ chairman, as the airline’s general director in late 2007. He was the deputy general director in charge of commerce of Vietnam Airlines for many years

Anyone got more info on this?

He was warned because of having the 3th child.

He was warned because of having the 3th child.
Really? :rofl:

EDIT:

Minh has a child with his ex-wife and two others with his second wife. VNA reported this case to a superior authority.
The General Department of Population’s vice head Duong Quoc Trong said government officials who have third children will be punished. If they are Communist Party members, they will be officially warned or even expelled from the Party.
In the case of Minh, if his second child with the second wife was born after March 22, 2005, Minh violated Decision 94 of the Politburo and Guidance 11 of the Central Party Inspection Committee. If the second child was born prior to March 22, 2005, his case will not be taken into account.

Love gets you higher than any plane...

Losing money on international flights

Vietnam Airlines’ figures show that the operations of the air carrier were heavily affected in the first six months of 2009 by the global economic downturn and H1N1 pandemic, with the biggest influence seen in international flights.

The number of foreign passengers coming to Vietnam by air decreased by 12 percent in the period, enabling Vietnam Airlines to fulfill only 42 percent of its yearly plan. While the average seat occupancy rate of the airline was 72.5 percent, the rate for international flights was just 36.5 percent.

Meanwhile, the airline had to compete more fiercely with foreign airlines as they continuously launched promotion campaigns.
Therefore, even the 15 percent growth rate in the domestic market could not offset the losses brought on by international flights.

Vietnam Airlines’ profit was 28 billion dong in the first six months of the year, while in the first quarter of the year it was 24 billion.

The total number of passengers in the first half of 2009 of Vietnam Airlines increased by 0.6 percent only. Jetstar Pacific saw 28.7 percent growth in the number of passengers in the first quarter of 2009, but the growth rate was still lower than the 54.6 percent growth rate of 2008.

Indochina Airlines, meanwhile, is still struggling with a 50 billion dong debt for fuel, traffic control fees and airport service fees; Vietjet Air has not been self-confident enough to offer its first flight, though it was licenced one year ago.

Vietnam Airlines said that cutting expenses will be its priority for the rest of the year.

Its fuel saving programme, for example, has helped it save $6-7 million already this year. Moreover, the air carrier has been considering adjusting air routes to reduce flight costs.

Since the beginning of July, the air carrier has been providing direct flights in accordance with four new air routes and changed its flight mode with Tan Son Nhat Airport, which will enable it to save several hundred billion dong every year.

The Government has also put forward important measures to rescue domestic airlines. It has approved investment plans on upgrading 10 airports to make them meet international standards by 2020.

The Government has also approved a finance plan allowing Vietnam Airlines to purchase 32 Airbuses, 16 Boeings and 11 ATR 72s, ensuring foreign currencies for the airline to raise its fleet to over 100 aircrafts by 2014.

Dang Ngoc Minh, Deputy Director of the Tax Policy Department under the Ministry of Finance, said that Vietnam is applying a 0 percent tax rate on imported aircraft and aircraft parts. Machines and equipment serving the aviation industry also see preferential import tax rates in comparison with other sectors (buses for airports are now imposed a 5 percent tax, while normal buses 60 percent).

Well, this late summer will at least have 2 passengers on their route from FRA to HAN/SGN to FRA.

commercial

theme: lotus flower

http://digisun.tv/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=257:vietnam-airlines-lotus&catid=49:tv-commercials&Itemid=116

He was warned because of having the 3th child.

WHATTTTTTTTTTT? having a third child in Vietnam is a crime?are you serious?:master:

Vietnamese families are advised to have only 1 or 2 children, but they can have the 3th if they want, the communists have the 3th child will be strictly warned or punished.

I remember that,viet airlines.when I went back to sweden,i fly from saigon to bangkok hihi i were in a viet airline.this is a truly shame.My friend testing how much the attendent endure,he were asking May muon dit me khong?? ,may muon du ma khong??

My sources indicate that Vietnam Airlines will join SkyTeam on May 10, 2010, just on time for SkyTeam's 10th aniversary!

My sources indicate that Vietnam Airlines will join SkyTeam on May 10, 2010, just on time for SkyTeam's 10th aniversary!

When it comes to air transportation I think Thailand & Singapore (both of their national airlines are members of Star Alliance) will be more "hostile" towards Vietnam now.
Skyteam now holds a foothold in SEA & surely trying to push SGN/HAN as new hubs in the medium/long term.

Vietnam's Prime Minister Nguyen Tan Dung has approved a plan to spend up to 600 million dollars upgrading Cam Ranh domestic airport into an international one, the government has said.

Under the plan, the airport, near the tourist resort of Nha Trang, will be expanded to give it a capacity of 5.5 million passengers and 100,000 tonnes of cargo per year, said a report on the government's website.

By 2030 this will rise to 8 million passengers and 200,000 tonnes of cargo, the report said.

Airport officials said the facility currently handles around a million passengers every year.

Cam Ranh International Airport will be located on an area of more than 650 hectares (1,600 acres) and be used for both civil and military purposes, the Internet report added.

Source: AFP

Can we make a separate thread for Vietnam Airports and construction updates?

Lets share facts and information about airports all across Vietnam.

What I know:
1.Tan Son Nhat was recently upgraded with a new terminal.
http://www.vietnamopentour.com.vn/images/news/images1387995_airportTSNhat.jpg
Google

Tan Son Nhat is also upgrading an additional building?

2. Noi Bai is also upgrading a terminal building?
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=703616

3. Can Tho is also building a new terminal?
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk206/locbuuloc/sanbaycantho.jpg
Locbuuloc- ssc member

4. Phu Quoc is building a new international terminal?
http://www.cpgcorp.com.sg/admin/files/portfolio/travel/New_Phu_Quoc_Airport_Vietnam.jpg
http://www.cpgcorp.com.sg/portfolio/viewdetails.asp?Lang=EN&PCID=9&PDID=348
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=853270

5. Cam Ranh airport is approved a 600 million USD upgrade.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iergpL0E6OPFxPV_64ldrAkrdgFA
also MyNameIsCharlie for first informing SSC in Vietnam airlines thread

6. Phu Bai airport near Hue is also approved for a 700 million USD upgrade.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gLwZtUAaauXCH8LarYOyCgmx5TIw

7. Da Nang is building a new terminal also?
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3299/3661541543_cacc745e01_b.jpg
Flickr (And Starboy for posting into SSC)

8. Long Thanh new airport.
We haven't heard much of what happened, but I heard a few unimportant/secret things. It is supposed to be one of the biggest in SEA. There aren't much renderings?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Thanh_International_Airport



I am sure there are more airport upgrades and constructions (Most of what I posted is in the South). If there are any more that others know, please post up.

This thread should be renamed to "Vietnam Aviation". We should concentrate all related news & updates in this thread.

Anyway 10 millions have disappeared within days:

The investment capital will be raised from different sources including the State budget and private investments to turn the airport in Khanh Hoa province into one that meets the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) standards and a first-class military airfield.

More than VND3.4 trillion will be invested until 2020 and the rest in the 2020-2030 period. By 2020, the airport will be able to handle 27 types of aircraft such as ART 72s, Airbus A320s and A350s, as well as Boeing B737s, B767s, B777s and B474Fs at a time.

Cam Ranh International Airport is designed to receive 5.5 million passengers and 100,000 tons of cargo a year by 2020. Around 32 parking plots for aircraft will be developed in the 658-hectare airport, and four more will have gone up by 2030.

Facilities will also be built on 35,000 square meters in the airport area to train pilots and mechanics by 2020. A 2,000-square-meter hangar and a 4,800-square-meter office area for airlines will be made available at the airport.

The airport will have a new runway, 3,048 meters long and 45 meters wide. The plan envisages upgrading the existing runway between 2020 and 2030.

By 2030, the airport will be able to handle 37 airplanes at a time, and eight million passengers a year.

A non-aviation area comprising of offices for lease, restaurants, hotels, supermarkets, conference rooms, post office, culture and sports centers will be developed when there are demands for these facilities.

Formerly used as a military airfield, Cam Ranh was turned into a civilian airport in 2004 and an international airport in 2007. This is one of the 10 airports to be expanded and developed in Vietnam as outlined in a revised zoning plan recently announced by the Ministry of Transport.

Cat Bi, Chu Lai, Cam Ranh, Phu Bai and Can Tho will meet international standards after their forthcoming upgrades while Tan Son Nhat, Noi Bai and Danang will be expanded to better serve international flights.

The two new airports - Phu Quoc offshore Kien Giang province and US$5-billion Long Thanh in Dong Nai province - will join the list of 10 international airports in Vietnam.

Phu Quoc International Airport has been under construction since November last year and is scheduled for opening in the second quarter of 2012. This US$707-million airport is designed to handle 20 aircraft including modern planes like Boeing B777, B747s and Airbus A380-800s at a time, and three million passengers a year.

Vietnam will spend up to 700 million dollars to turn Phu Bai airport near the former imperial city of Hue into an international facility, the government said Tuesday.

By 2020 the airport will be able to handle 20 aircraft at one time and five million passengers annually, with further expansion over the following decade, Prime Minister Nguyen Tan Dung said.

Capital for the project, to be located on an area of more than 520 hectares (1,280 acres), will be mobilised from state sources, companies and individuals, the government said.

The airport currently serves up to 1.2 million passengers and 15,000 tonnes (16,500 tons) of cargo per year.

Hue is a UNESCO World Heritage site in central Vietnam about 80 kilometres (50 miles) north of Danang, the country's fourth-largest city.

Danang itself has only two direct international flights, from Bangkok and Singapore, which local investment and tourism officials said had hindered development of the area's tourism potential.

The Hue airport upgrade follows a similar announcement last week when the government said 600 million dollars will be spent to turn Cam Ranh domestic airport, on the southern coast, into an international facility.

Under the plan, the airport near the tourist resort of Nha Trang will be expanded with an annual capacity of 5.5 million passengers, the government said.

Source: AFP

Quite ambitious, the recent plans.

Yeah, VN has a lot of new projects and we want to expand the network of aviation. New international airport will be constructed and allow very large aircrafts (VLA) to land/take off. Up to now, the biggest pax airplane is airbus A380 - 800. The problem is, we need a park which is 80 x 80 m for a A388. Hence, SGN or HAN can not do that because they are too small. In the future, just Longthanh and Phu Quoc will be able to do that. Others can not do that without expandsion.

Direct/non-stop flight between VN and USA can be operated by A359 and B788. Both can fly around 15000 km with the pax payload. When fully loaded, they can flight directly to europe (guess so).

I have the question, why didn't VN buy B77W or B77L? A388 is "too big", according to Mr Pham Ngoc Minh. Also, he didn't mention about B748. Can someone solve my problems???

^^ I think the type numbers are confusing you. Just read up the previous posts.

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Eurocopter has delivered the first EC225 to Southern Service Flight Company (SSFC) based in Vung Tau City, Vietnam. Founded in 1985, SSFC belongs to the Service Flight Corporation of Vietnam (SFC VN), a long-standing partner of Eurocopter. SSFC is a leading helicopter service provider in Vietnam, providing a wide range of helicopter flights for offshore exploration, search and rescue (SAR) operations, emergency medical service (EMS), and more.

Captain Le Trong Dong, Operations Director from SSFC, said at this occasion, “We are very proud to receive this new EC225 helicopter. A second EC225 is due to arrive before the end of the year. The two new EC225 helicopters will reinforce our existing helicopter fleet and allow us to intensify our activity in the booming oil and gas market in Vietnam.”

Dr. Bernhard Brenner, President of Eurocopter South East Asia added, “We are extremely honored by SSFC’s continued confidence in our products. Eurocopter has been present in the country since 1985. It is a privilege for Eurocopter to take part in Vietnam’s promising aviation market. Eurocopter looks forward to meeting its growing demands for helicopters.”

The delivery of the EC225 to SSFC this year will increase SSFC’s fleet to 8. The purchase of the EC225 is proof of SSFC’s confidence in Eurocopter’s long-range twin-engine helicopter. With the introduction of the long-range EC225, SSFC is able to provide its customers with better services in terms of comfort, vibration, speed and payload. The newest addition to the Super Puma helicopter family, the EC225 benefits from the Super Puma’s long experience in oil and gas industry and is the reference for offshore operations today.

WHATTTTTTTTTTT? having a third child in Vietnam is a crime?are you serious?:master:

sure, except a pair have more than one child in the second pregnant. This is alike China. Every pair in China are just permitted to bear 1 child.

Vietnam Airlines will have a second subsidary after VASCO comes the launch of 49% owned Cambodia Angkor Airlines, using VN's 2 new ATR7's and maybe A321's, will we see this airline a great asset for VN, and maybe future SkyTeam member? (as subsidary) Flights will all be code-shared with VN and connections from SGN on VN's large Global network.

Looks like VN is now becomming a carrier of choice in the region!

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Giá 17 triệu USD, chiếc trực thăng EC 225 được sản xuất tại Pháp vừa xuất hiện tại sân Vũng Tàu.

Chiếc EC 225 do Công ty Bay Dịch vụ Miền Nam mua là đời máy bay mới nhất của hệ máy bay Super Puma, được sản xuất ở nhà máy Eurocopter (Pháp). Loại máy bay này được thiết kế dành riêng cho bay ở vùng biển, có thêm nhiều tính năng hiện đại thích hợp cho công tác tìm kiếm, cứu hộ. Với 5 cánh, tốc độ EC 225 lên tới hơn 260 km/giờ, tải trọng tối đa 11 tấn với sức chứa đủ cho 19 hành khách và 2 phi hành đoàn. Đặc biệt, nhờ được lắp thêm khoang chứa dầu phụ nên máy bay này có thể bay xa tới 850 km mà không cần nạp dầu.

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Ngoài ra, hệ thống hiển thị buồng lái tích hợp kỹ thuật số công nghệ mới nhất và bộ điều khiển tự động 4 trục, EC 225 tăng cường được sự kiểm soát của phi công, bảo đảm tính an toàn cho chuyến bay.

Đây được xem là chiếc máy bay trực thăng hiện đại nhất, lần đầu có mặt tại Việt Nam, vượt giá 7 triệu USD mà bầu Đức - ông chủ đội bóng Hoàng Anh Gia Lai, bỏ ra cho chiếc máy bay riêng Beechcraft King Air 350 của Mỹ.

Đích thân hai phi công Nguyễn Đức Toàn và Lê Trọng Phương đã sang Pháp và thay nhau lái máy bay về Việt Nam. Họ đã bay qua 12 nước, dừng tại 14 trạm và mất 14 ngày để về đến Vũng Tàu.

Theo lãnh đạo Công ty Bay Dịch vụ Miền Nam, đơn vị này đã đặt mua thêm một chiếc EC 225 thứ 2, trị giá 25 triệu USD mỗi chiếc và sẽ về tới sân bay Vũng Tàu trong tháng 10 tới.

ky cong that bay 14 ngay tu Phap ve VN,sao ko cho ve bang tau hoac may bay van tai nhi?con chuon chuon nay em thay no bay o duoi vt cung lau roi ma

Máy bay trực thăng phản lực mà đi so với máy bay cánh quạt của bầu đức. Bọn nhà báo này thích show kiến thức mà show tới đâu thì *** tới đó

Đặt cược 5 triệu USD cho đường bay vàng
(NLĐO)- Trước đề xuất của Bộ GTVT với Chính phủ cho phép ngừng xúc tiến mở đường bay mới từ Hà Nội đi TPHCM dọc theo kinh tuyến 106 độ Đông (đường bay vàng), một cá nhân là ông Trần Đình Bá đã đề nghị được đặt cược 5 triệu USD để chứng minh hiệu quả của đường bay vàng.

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Ông Trần Đình Bá hiện là hội viên Hội Kinh tế vận tải Đường sắt VN. Trong văn bản gửi lên Chính phủ, các tổ chức ngành nghề liên quan và các hãng hàng không VN, ông Trần Đình Bá cho biết đã nghiên cứu và đưa ra kết quả cho thấy việc mở đường bay vàng sẽ tiết kiệm được 20% về mặt kinh tế so với đường bay Hà Nội – TPHCM hiện hữu.

Trong khi đó, cục Hàng không VN lại kết luận rằng: “hiệu quả kinh tế của đường bay vàng so với đường bay hiện tại là không nhiều vì chi phí phát sinh do bay quá cảnh qua Lào và Campuchia. Đường bay mới chỉ tiết kiệm được142 km, giảm giờ bay 9 phút trong khi chi phí phát sinh thêm 364 USD”.

Theo đề xuất của ông Bá, nếu ông chứng minh được hiệu quả của đường bay vàng, Cục Hàng không VN phải trả cho ông 5 triệu USD và ngược lại, ông sẽ trả cơ quan này số tiền trên nếu thất bại.

Ông Bá cũng đề xuất Hội đồng trọng tài gồm ba tổ chức: Hội khoa học kinh tế VN, Viện Vật lý TPHCM mà Viện Kinh tế TPHCM. Được biết, đường bay vàng là ý tưởng của cựu phi công quân đội Mai Trọng Tuấn.

Ông này nhiều tiền ghê ta :lol:

the golden line is a great idea when the price of jet fuel, crude fuel are so high. Once more, it saves some minutes and may be help us increase few flights if essential.
Hope Vietnamese airliners apply the golden line smartly. Using it when it is advantage and rejecting it when it is disadvantage.

Vietnam Airlines bán máy bay cũ ( trich tu VNexpress)

Hãng hàng không Quốc gia VN (Vietnam Airlines) vừa tuyên bố bán chiếc ATR 72 - 200 đầu tiên trong tổng số 7 chiếc thế hệ cũ cho Công ty ATR theo chiến lược phát triển và đổi mới đội bay của hãng.

Theo đó, toàn bộ 7 chiếc ATR72-200 thế hệ cũ do Vietnam Airlines khai thác từ năm 1992 sẽ được bán và bàn giao lại cho nhà sản xuất là Công ty ATR trong vòng một năm tới. Với hai hợp đồng đặt mua 6 chiếc ATR72-500 vào tháng 12/2008 và hợp đồng mua 5 chiếc ATR72-500 năm 2007 thì cứ mỗi chiếc máy bay ATR72-200 cũ đưa ra khỏi đội bay sẽ được thay vào đó một chiếc ATR72-500 mới.

Theo chương trình này, đến cuối 2010, Vietnam Airlines sẽ thay toàn bộ máy bay ATR 72 mới trên các đường bay ngắn từ TP HCM tới đồng bằng sông Cửu Long, Côn Sơn, Phú Quốc, từ Hà Nội tới Tây Bắc...

Theo kế hoạch, đội bay của Vietnam Airlines sẽ có 104 chiếc vào năm 2015 và 150 chiếc vào năm 2020.