I loved Sidekick, and might go rent it again. Great movie, and you really showed off our town well! :cheers:

I rented my copy at 7-24 on Church Street in the village...

i like you taller, better. you're good peeps.

Ryerson has bought the old future shop building and is on the hunt for more property in the area.

Posted on 01/08/08
Written by John Shmuel

(The Eyeopener) - Ryerson University has bought a lucrative new Yonge Street property right next to Sam the Record Man.

Sheldon Disenhouse, lawyer for the family that owned 353 Yonge St., site of the former Future Shop building, confirmed the sale.

“The property is owned by Ryerson now,” he said.
Another property, a Church Street parking lot right across from the George Vari Engineering and Computing Centre, is currently under negotiations.

“We’re very close to completing [the deal],” Levy said. “There’s a couple of things to be done, but we’re very close.”

Bryce Gibson, of real estate firm DTZ Barnicke and realtor for the Church Street property, confirmed a deal was close to being reached, but refused to give any details.
“All I can confirm is Ryerson is interested in the property.”

Levy said that if all goes well, he expects to have the parking lot bought by the end of the month. He did not reveal what the new space would be used for.

A third property, a building that currently houses an American Apparel on Yonge Street, was also eyed by Levy. According to him, Ryerson chose not to purchase the property due to financial constraints.

The Church Street lot and the American Apparel building are both owned by the Sniderman family, who also own the famous Sam the Record Man store that Ryerson is currently negotiating to buy. Ryerson is very close to finalizing the purchase of the Sam the Record Man building from the Snidermans, according to Levy.

If purchased, the school intends to dismantle Sam’s famous spinning neon records. The signs, however, along with the building itself, are protected under the Ontario Heritage Act.

Levy hinted that Ryerson is looking into whether the signs could be relocated, or whether a replica could be made in their place without having to change the building’s heritage designation.

“There’s not any question that the sign has to be dismantled,” he said.

Under the Ontario Heritage Act, a building designated as a heritage site cannot be altered or demolished without an appeal process to the Toronto Preservation Board. In June of this year, Toronto City Council designated the entire Sam’s building as heritage property in order to specifically protect the signs.

Scott Barrett, senior co-ordinator at Heritage Preservation Services, said allowances could be made if a heritage building was relocated to a location nearby. In this case, the university would need an allowance to move the infamous neon signs.

“As long as the original qualities that made it receive a heritage designation are kept intact, then accommodations can be made.”

He added that he could not comment about the Sam’s site, because the heritage designation of the building was under appeal by an unnamed party.

Sam the Record Man is currently owned by Bobby and Jason Sniderman, the sons of founder Sam Sniderman. Problems arose initially in the sale of the building last summer when Bobby Sniderman told the media he was upset that Ryerson was interested in purchasing the building even before it had closed down. That led Levy to suggest expropriation would be an option if the building was not offered to Ryerson.

Levy said he expects to conclude the purchase of the two properties soon.

“These things are not going to be six month negotiations. It’s either going to be you’re successful or you’re not.”

Turns out our emails and phone calls of complaint, about Future Shop and the retarded decision to have the change room facing the square, might have had some effect after-all. I was walking by the square today and I noticed someone putting a reflective coating on the windows. The lunch room was completely blocked out. So no more peeking at "hot" Future Shop supermodels anymore. I think it's a good thing, very good indeed.

.. that's even worse!!

Well chalk this one up as a SSC victory for Toronto.

So what's the next pressing Toronto problem?

Our old nemesis, the Gardiner!

It wont be permanent. They just want to introduce viewers to their new space. They will be back on Queen St. Monday morning.

Ahhh.

Wow... they moved fast on the current sign covering the shafts. Awesome.

Turns out our emails and phone calls of complaint, about Future Shop and the retarded decision to have the change room facing the square, might have had some effect after-all. I was walking by the square today and I noticed someone putting a reflective coating on the windows. The lunch room was completely blocked out. So no more peeking at "hot" Future Shop supermodels anymore. I think it's a good thing, very good indeed.

There's a bunch of Letters to the Editor in today's Star following up on Hume's article. And one of the letters is by me! See below...although they edited the hell out of it. Seriously, I went after PenEquity hard, but they erased all mention of them.

From today's Star:

I couldn't agree more with Christopher Hume's assessment of the abomination that has risen at the northeast corner of Yonge and Dundas Sts. Toronto Life Square demonstrates once again that the developer has no business (or vision) for buildings woven into the fabric of a thriving city centre.

However, there's one building detail that must be added to Hume's list of offences. Future Shop, which occupies the second floor, has positioned its staff room – with its bland, grey lockers and fold-out lunch table – overlooking the square. Beside the staff room is a long, bleak, white hallway stretching to the store itself. These details are the guts of a building. They're not supposed to be on display.

This contradicts the developer's assertion that other corporations should spend major dollars to advertise on this building because of its prime exposure to the square. If I was a corporation, I'd see no value in advertising on this building. And they're right. This building is of no value. What a lost opportunity.

Hey, well done!! That is magnificent!! :applause:

This contradicts the developer's assertion that other corporations should spend major dollars to advertise on this building because of its prime exposure to the square. If I was a corporation, I'd see no value in advertising on this building. And they're right. This building is of no value. What a lost opportunity.

That's why this person is not a CEO of a major electronics company, dumb Canadian phone companies, and/or a movie studio executive.

As all of the above have seen at least some merit to spending dollars advertising on this building.
____________

In fact another writer commented that the building does serve it's function irregardless of what some may consider it's hulking phyiscal form.

Our old nemesis, the Gardiner!

I'm sure 15 guys with sledge hammers could probably take it down in a day. It's like a billion years old anyway.

From today's Star:
However, there's one building detail that must be added to Hume's list of offences. Future Shop, which occupies the second floor, has positioned its staff room – with its bland, grey lockers and fold-out lunch table – overlooking the square. Beside the staff room is a long, bleak, white hallway stretching to the store itself. These details are the guts of a building. They're not supposed to be on display.



Very well put. If what you're saying is true, then that's pretty scary.

I just found something in the TLS media kit regarding ad space that makes me happy:

"Capability to customize and develop unique signage, i.e. 3D or electronic"

The cheapness of the ads currently up are a result of the corporations putting them up, not PenEquity. I imagine that once the building is complete, companies will start coming up with better ads to try and capture the attention of everyone in the area.

In time it should develop into something great, it has potential

Photos taken today January 21 the sign is installed but not illuminated.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2078/2210561699_a3ea7fd5ec_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2366/2210582881_00867f7ccc_b.jpg

thx for the pix :)

I noticed the other night riding my bike through the intersection, that they do not have enough lights shining down on the Tri sign... it looks patchy at night, with pools of light and darker. You can see the
effect a bit in the photos here...

Why is there a little block on the video screen that is shining in white? Aren't dead pixels typically black :P

I noticed the other night riding my bike through the intersection, that they do not have enough lights shining down on the Tri sign... it looks patchy at night, with pools of light and darker. You can see the
effect a bit in the photos here...

Yea I also noticed that. I spent some time at Y-D Square this morning (Not much seeing as it was fucking freezing!) and took it all in. It looks great! Some people may feel intimidated by all of the ads, but I love them. I finally see the purpose of the canopy along the North end of the square... it was obviously built to hide all of the imperfections on TLS!

Looking more and more like you-know-what all the time:

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j251/dawnd_01/Autumn%202007/winter%202007/timeSquarepixbyKingoftheHillii.jpg

pic by KingoftheHill

Looking more and more like you-know-what all the time:

pic by KingoftheHill

Wow... look closely... they even have a torch!

Looking more and more like you-know-what all the time:

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j251/dawnd_01/Autumn%202007/winter%202007/timeSquarepixbyKingoftheHillii.jpg

pic by KingoftheHill

There's still WAAAAYS to go before Dundas Square is remotely similar.

There's still WAAAAYS to go before Dundas Square is remotely similar.

Are you kidding? People have this strange idea that Times Square is some magical place, probably from watching too many American movies. The truth is that there's nothing really awesome about it. It has some better signage than YD Square, but it's probably less of a "place".

I have seen Times Square enough times in the past 30 years to have drawn my own conclusions! ;)

another shot of dundas square from hollywoodjohnpierce. (www.flickr.com)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2276/2192836369_3f74cbf7d8_o.jpg

AMC Theatres @ Toronto Life Square - slated to open on March 28th 2008.


(Sorry if this info has been posted previously)

AMC Theatres @ Toronto Life Square - slated to open on March 28th 2008.


(Sorry if this info has been posted previously)

woo!

I have seen Times Square enough times in the past 30 years to have drawn my own conclusions! ;)

And they are...

AMC Theatres @ Toronto Life Square - slated to open on March 28th 2008.


(Sorry if this info has been posted previously)

Nice!

Are you kidding? People have this strange idea that Times Square is some magical place, probably from watching too many American movies. The truth is that there's nothing really awesome about it. It has some better signage than YD Square, but it's probably less of a "place".

Wow...have you ever been to both Times Square and Dundas Square? If you think that they are both similar than I honestly don't know what to say. Even if you put the "better signage" factor aside, that place is a city in itself with the constant hustle and bustle. In comparison, Dundas Square struggles to attract people even on the best of days.

Wow...have you ever been to both Times Square and Dundas Square? If you think that they are both similar than I honestly don't know what to say. Even if you put the "better signage" factor aside, that place is a city in itself with the constant hustle and bustle. In comparison, Dundas Square struggles to attract people even on the best of days.

Koolio, with all due respect, how familiar are you with Dundas Square? Do you get in from Mississsauga often to see it? It has been a HUGE success, and in the summer is PACKED with people. Does it matter if it is not identical to New York City's Times Square? There are a lot of similarities, but DS has its own feel.
Torontonians (and those from the GTA) are loathe to admit they might have done something right... but to say that Dundas Square struggles to attract people does boggle the mind.

Wow...have you ever been to both Times Square and Dundas Square? If you think that they are both similar than I honestly don't know what to say. Even if you put the "better signage" factor aside, that place is a city in itself with the constant hustle and bustle. In comparison, Dundas Square struggles to attract people even on the best of days.

Since no one taught you to read, I'll walk you through the post you responded to: I did not say they are similar to one another, I said Times Square is nothing special.

As for being busy, your flat wrong about YD Square.

I understand where you are coming from koolio, but I find that a problem of the Times Square. It is so big and the signs are so imposing, that it does not feel very pedestrian friendly. It is just out of scale to a normal person. I find the Dundas Square to shine in this regard. The relatively low-rise surrounding buildings make the space feel brighter, maybe similar to the Picadilly Circus of London. Obviously with less people.

It may have no people at 3 AM at night, which sucks but that's simply because the city is MUCH smaller. I bet you anything if our subway was open 24 hours, it would be full and lively.

Since no one taught you to read, I'll walk you through the post you responded to:

Uhh....why would you even respond to my original post when all I mentioned in that instance was that Dundas Square is not even remotely similar to Times Square? I did not make a single mention of Times Square being special or not. So before you go around questioning the comprehension skills of others, maybe you should brush up on your own.

Also, Taller Better, granted that my statement about Dundas Square may be a bit hyperbolic in nature but the original point still stands....it is still nowhere close to being the Times Square of Toronto (or any other significant public gathering place in the world). I've frequented Dundas Square on numerous occasions this past year (haven't had the opportunity to visit Toronto since the New Year) and I absolutely love it. All I was trying to say is that as good as it is, it is not getting similar to Times Square in any regard. Thats not a criticism...just a fact.

And don't mention the inferiority complex innate in Torontonians to me. I've criticized such mentality in this very same thread a few pages back. As I mentioned before, I like Dundas Square for what it is...but it is not Times Square and to compare the two would be in correct. If by posting its picture you meant something else than I apologize.

Uhh....why would you even respond to my original post when all I mentioned in that instance was that Dundas Square is not even remotely similar to Times Square? I did not make a single mention of Times Square being special or not.

You fail. Read it again, this time slowly.

Jesus christ....look....here's what I posted:

There's still WAAAAYS to go before Dundas Square is remotely similar.

And here's what you posted:

Are you kidding? People have this strange idea that Times Square is some magical place, probably from watching too many American movies. The truth is that there's nothing really awesome about it. It has some better signage than YD Square, but it's probably less of a "place".

Now tell me where I mentioned anything about Times Square being a magical place, or being a place of any sort of merit at all.

aaaaaaanyhow... how 'bout dem Raptors?

ya, raps are looking good. they're getting hot at the right time.

^^106-78 raps v.s bucks

Wow...have you ever been to both Times Square and Dundas Square? If you think that they are both similar than I honestly don't know what to say. Even if you put the "better signage" factor aside, that place is a city in itself with the constant hustle and bustle. In comparison, Dundas Square struggles to attract people even on the best of days.

I like Dundas Square better than Times Square.

Dundas Square is equally as busy as Times Square, but with a smaller scale. I've been to both, and can honesty say Times Square has no sense of place. - Dundas Square is actually a Square which makes it overall a more pleasing experience than Times Square.

As for Dundas Square struggling to attract people, that seems like something that could only flow from the mouth of a Mississaugian.

As for Dundas Square struggling to attract people, that seems like something that could only flow from the mouth of a Mississaugian.

Please do not bring Mississauga into this. Its something that could only flow from the mouth of an ignorant person*.

Please do not bring Mississauga into this. Its something that could only flow from the mouth of an ignorant person*.


fair enough.

I love how defensive Mississaugans are.

I love how defensive Mississaugans are.

Its not being defensive about mississauga. Im from there and think the comment was stupid. I want nothing to do with it and by saying its a 'Mississauga thing' brings me into it.

Mississauga is like the ugly stepsister.. But she tries very hard so we still somewhat like her.:)

I also love how people from like Scarborough are saying that Mississauga is a crappy area :lol:

I also love how people from like Scarborough are saying that Mississauga is a crappy area :lol:

Both Scarborough and Mississauga are creepy if you ask me. (Creepy and scary) :ohno:

well saying scarborough is creepy essentially means that all of toronto is creepy if the new research is true that scarborough doesnt deserve its bad rep since it actually has less violence or equal then the rest of the neighbourhoods in toronto, EAST YORK, NORTH YORK, TORONTO, and ETOBICOKE.

And I lived in scarbrough growing up and I live downtown now and neither are CREEPY at least not by my definition.

well saying scarborough is creepy essentially means that all of toronto is creepy if the new research is true that scarborough doesnt deserve its bad rep since it actually has less violence or equal then the rest of the neighbourhoods in toronto, EAST YORK, NORTH YORK, TORONTO, and ETOBICOKE.

And I lived in scarbrough growing up and I live downtown now and neither are CREEPY at least not by my definition.

I guess he's not referring to crime or violence but the sad state of the built environment: car oriented, not pedestrian friendly, without a sense of place and crappy strip malls among many other things

Mississauga is like the ugly stepsister.. But she tries very hard so we still somewhat like her.:)

Uh oh! Be careful now, or the Sauga crew'll unleash its fury upon you!

Oh lord, we shouldn't get started on this--even though I started it.

well car oriented is creepy but then ur talking bout anything 905. to be honest its not the residents fault they live out there in the bush. Its the governments fault for ever allowing developers to build out there. Now we have people driving in from Barrie everyday. From stratford from oshawa. Im not a environmentalist at all but come on! Almost every car has only one person in them and they drive as if there is no possible effect on our city. But I dont expect much from ppl I should expect something from the government. But how can you have faith in ppl who just accept bribes left right and centre which is the real reason they never fulfil any of there promises once elected. Moneys hard to turn away especially when its under the table and non taxable.

"to be honest its not the residents fault they live out there in the bush"

Were they like Cartman and got abducted by aliens and forced to live out in the sticks?

no they werent. But I guess I look at us like the kids and the government as the parents. We might want certain things like 8 bedroom houses on acres of land but its the parents job to say um no son as much as you think you want that and its good for the immediate future the negatives far out weigh the current satisfaction such as environmental issues, gridlock, transportation crisis, wasting the best farm land in the country, cutting down countless trees. However the government cant act like responsible parents if they keep surcumbing to the almoghty dollar. Then again when was the last time any of us met a RESPONSIBLE parent?

I understand that MUCH is moving there head quarters to the OLYMPIC building across from TLS. What will happen to the current MUCH building on Queen Street?

I heard that CityTV is moving. Much is now owned by CTV, and they own the building on Queen.

CityTV and Omni are moving in together.

I understand that MUCH is moving there head quarters to the OLYMPIC building across from TLS. What will happen to the current MUCH building on Queen Street?

Only CityTV is moving. The Torch building is owned by Rogers and Much is owned by CTV.

soo the queen street building will stay there occupied by CTV?

pretty sure, a lot of the old Chum channels are still there too like fashion tv. but i don't think that CTV itself is looking at moving in. but don't quote me!

ok soo the old city tv building WONT become a condo or a empty building then?

Nope.

The Queen street building will remain under CTV's control. For the time being, MUCH will stay put, so will CP24.

Obviously since CityTV is now owned by Rogers, it will be moving out. I believe they have 2 years, but now that they have purchased the Torch at Dundas Square, they will move in there as soon as it's ready.

Regarding 1331 Yonge St. which is the original CHUM AM/FM building. That will eventually be sold and CHUM Radio will move it's HQ, and I assume the famous building will be torn down and replaced by condos, like every other building in the area.

There is speculation that CHUM Radio may move to the Masonic Temple. Or even into the old CityTV building, since they are both owned by CTV. Space is really the major issue.

The Queen street building will remain under CTV's control. For the time being, MUCH will stay put, so will CP24.

Obviously since CityTV is now owned by Rogers, it will be moving out. I believe they have 2 years, but now that they have purchased the Torch at Dundas Square, they will move in there as soon as it's ready.

Regarding 1331 Yonge St. which is the original CHUM AM/FM building. That will eventually be sold and CHUM Radio will move it's HQ, and I assume the famous building will be torn down and replaced by condos, like every other building in the area.

There is speculation that CHUM Radio may move to the Masonic Temple. Or even into the old CityTV building, since they are both owned by CTV. Space is really the major issue.



I'm sure they could sell the radio building for condos.


I looked in the windows of the new CityTV - and they've already got banners up inside, and it looks like renovations have begun.

I looked in the windows of the new CityTV - and they've already got banners up inside, and it looks like renovations have begun.

They had some banners in there a week or two ago for the first airing of BT there, some of them kinda perm which was cool.

I really hope they change the outside of it, but it seemed when they were on air on BT that it was inside only, I can't see Rogers keeping it that ugly tho.. hmm.. time will tell for O.S :)

When will the first BT air in the new building?

When will the first BT air in the new building?

like a week and a half ago! don't worry though, it was just to show off the space, they wont be moving for a year or so.

What???? Not for another year???? Shitttttt....

They have to refit the space, which may take sometime. But be glad it's a tv station that is taking up the space, it's the perfect spot for one.

http://www.thestar.com/News/GTA/article/300091

Iconic Yonge-Dundas Square a major city asset

Feb 04, 2008 04:30 AM
Christopher Hume

Perhaps it's not surprising a city that has always wanted to be New York would also want its own Times Square.

Still, there's something touching, almost endearing, about a town that believes Yonge and Dundas could stand in for the famous Manhattan precinct.

Yonge and Dundas isn't Times Square, neither is it the Shinjuku of the North. As much as we might long to be New York or Tokyo, we're Toronto, for better or worse, a city better known for qualities other than brashness. The 24-hour electronic pandemonium that is Times Square and the non-stop neon-architecture of Tokyo have no equivalents in Toronto.

Thank God.

Not to say that Yonge and Dundas doesn't offer the faithful a chance to worship at the altar of consumerism almost any time of the day or night. But what distinguishes the neighbourhood is not the signage but Yonge-Dundas Square, which, at the risk of sounding precious, is a place of urban contemplation, if not quiet, certainly set apart and unhurried.

True, it's surrounded on every side by a noisy barrage of video screens, LED signs, oversized billboards, the whole paraphernalia of North American consumer culture. Everywhere you look, you're exhorted to buy, spend, acquire and desire.

So what else is new?

The most engaging aspects of Yonge-Dundas Square aren't those it has in common with Times Square, but those that make it different. For a start, there's nowhere to sit in Times Square; the crowds of tourists, hawkers and street vendors hustle you along relentlessly. It's impossible to step back from the frenzy except in one of countless overpriced restaurants or bars. Even there, you're still in the thick of it. The public part of Times Square is too small and insignificant to matter. In reality, there is no square in Times Square.

By contrast, Yonge-Dundas Square, with its chairs, benches and fountains, invites passersby to stop and spend time, not just money. It offers space for visitors to be human, not just consumers. It is a place for people-watching and conversation, more Paris than Manhattan.

Yes, the square hosts its share of concerts, corporate events and community gatherings and isn't always accessible. That's the price of success. Then, of course, there's winter, when hanging around outdoors is rather less appealing. (On that score, however, we might learn from Sweden where outdoor cafes provide blankets to customers at the beginning and end of the cold season.)

Still, whether we realize or appreciate it, Yonge-Dundas Square is actually a whole lot more sophisticated, even civilized, than Times Square. As an element in the urban landscape as well as a piece of civic design, it towers above its Manhattan "counterpart." This isn't necessarily good news at a time when the race to the bottom has reached warp speed, and it may mean that Yonge-Dundas Square will never attract similar sized hordes, but who cares?

Besides, it isn't as if Yonge and Dundas lacks for the crassly commercial. The Eaton Centre and the still-unfinished Toronto Life building are just steps away; shopping opportunities abound. Indeed, that's why the corner is the busiest in Canada. That's also why Yonge-Dundas Square makes so much sense, why it's a major asset to the city.

Distant pastures, distant squares, seems they always look greener.

Yet of all recent efforts to improve Toronto, to enhance a sense of urbanity, Yonge-Dundas may be the most successful. Though much criticized when it opened in 2003, the square has emerged as an iconic space, a destination and civic space.

How long before some Big Apple contingent comes north asking questions about how to create its own Yonge-Dundas Square? Maybe it already has.

Christopher Hume can be reached at chume@thestar.ca

He just can't help being a condescending twat. :lol:

But he is right on when he says:

"Distant pastures, distant squares, seems they always look greener",

for there are many people in this town that don't have the confidence to shake that belief.

Wow... a surprisingly good article. I must say, I think his assessment of Dundas Square and its comparisons to Times Square and Shinjuku are completely accurate.

Why do we need articles like this?

Because Torontonians have an insecurity complex!:ohno:

It's like he's paraphrased this forum.

It's like he's paraphrased this forum.

You never know.

Maybe he lurks among us. :shifty:

You never know.

Maybe he lurks among us. :shifty:

... well we definitely give him an endless supply of material.

... well we definitely give him an endless supply of material.

The developers supply the material. You guys (umm, I mean we) supply the humour.

here's a couple of pics from today....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/yyzer/dwtn021614.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/yyzer/dwtn021604.jpg

Nice shots yyzer.

The look of The Met really varies as you look at it from different angles. It's quite a building.

TLS doesn't look as bad as I had once thought, but still, it's underwhelming.

Maybe it will make a good foil for whatever Ryerson does next door. It's bound to make anything even HALF decent look great!!:lol:

Awsome pics! Now picture that view with 1 Bloor!

looks like they're starting on the final sign. i'd like to think it'll make a difference, but i doubt it.

i had dinner last night in the bar of the newly renovated pickle barrel across the street from TLS. as you look up at the future shop from the low angle all you can see is their shit-ass exposed ceiling and cheap-ass industrial lights hanging down. looks like the place is under construction, not a completed flagship store.

TLS sucks. That's all there is to say.

The one complaint I cannot hide is the huge sign. That REALLY should have been an LED sign. It's clearly stands out. The back-lit sign is just a huge disappointment imo. That's the only thing that really, really bugs me. I can live with the rest.

I haven't been to an AMC theatre but I've read that the screens are smaller than most other cinemas. (that sucks) I'm just wondering if the prices are also smaller? Who is going to pay high prices for a small sized screen? Call me a size-queen but I like my movie screens BIG. I'll occasionally pay to go to the smaller screens at Rainbow but that's only because it's a lot cheaper than The Paramount. For the same price, I'll walk over to Paramount.

I haven't been to an AMC theatre but I've read that the screens are smaller than most other cinemas. (that sucks) I'm just wondering if the prices are also smaller? Who is going to pay high prices for a small sized screen? Call me a size-queen but I like my movie screens BIG. I'll occasionally pay to go to the smaller screens at Rainbow but that's only because it's a lot cheaper than The Paramount. For the same price, I'll walk over to Paramount.

The majroity of the screens are smaller, but the big opener movies are on the big screen (as big as Paramount and others). They will probably have 4-6 big ones at the Metropolis site. Giving the other 18-20 theatres small. It is a 24 theatre from what I recall. Now the small ones aren't tiny but they ain't BIG :) I don't mind AMC.

The one complaint I cannot hide is the huge sign. That REALLY should have been an LED sign. It's clearly stands out. The back-lit sign is just a huge disappointment imo. That's the only thing that really, really bugs me. I can live with the rest.

The good news is that the signage can and will change/evolve over time, so all hope is not lost for this sea of back-lit.

The good news is that the signage can and will change/evolve over time, so all hope is not lost for this sea of back-lit.

Good point. This building is basically a blank canvas that can improve with time (money). One day it could be all top notch video screens.


RE "size queen": lol!

Yes, good old Molly is a bona-fide, dyed in the wool size queen! :D

Yes, good old Molly is a bona-fide, dyed in the wool size queen! :D

And I won't deny it. I like it big. lol We are of course, talking about skyscrapers, aren't we? :-P :lol:

I go to AMC all the time and have no issues with their screen sizes. It's the older movies that get the smallest screens. I tend to see movies soon after they open, so I get the big screens! :)

I visit AMC quite often too, it's not only the older movies that get the smaller screens, a film like There Will Be Blood will be relegated to the smaller screens.

My only point of contention with AMC vs Cineplex/Empire/Famous Players/whoever is that AMC's choice of concessions is quite lacking compared to the others.

If I'm going to be gouged, I want to have a wide variety of choices!

I visit AMC quite often too, it's not only the older movies that get the smaller screens, a film like There Will Be Blood will be relegated to the smaller screens.

My only point of contention with AMC vs Cineplex/Empire/Famous Players/whoever is that AMC's choice of concessions is quite lacking compared to the others.

If I'm going to be gouged, I want to have a wide variety of choices!

Personally I would never buy food at a theatre. It's such a waste of money. I really don't understand why anyone would? Why not eat before the movie? Or after?

Personally I would never buy food at a theatre. It's such a waste of money. I really don't understand why anyone would? Why not eat before the movie? Or after?


Or bring your own...

either of the three alternatives works! unless they have a fast-food chain, the food isn't even remotely worth it.

I stick bags of candies in my pocket, but if a person is a popcorn afficiando (which rarely I am), you pretty much have to get it fresh, there. Plus, who is going to bring in their own pop? I usually spend some money at the concession stand.

I stick bags of candies in my pocket, but if a person is a popcorn afficiando (which rarely I am), you pretty much have to get it fresh, there. Plus, who is going to bring in their own pop? I usually spend some money at the concession stand.

I always bring in my own pop. I hate the watered down shit they give you. A bottle in my friends purse, or in my jacket usually does the trick.

I like the big Tub-O'-Pop to share with my b/f! a measly lukewarm can smuggled in my jacket pocket just doesn't cut it...

I'm quite sure that you can take essentially anything you want into a movie. They really don't have any right to tell you to not bring something in your hand.


Maybe if it was a freshly microwaved Michalena's dinner, that would be weird, but a pop in your hand is not going to get you any attention.

And if someone does actually tell you that you cannot bring it in, tell them to "lick tha dick", and walk right past them.

It's a movie theatre, not a restaurant.

At the Scotiabank Theatre I love the Pizza Hut!!

yummy... I know-i have extra cash.


Otherwise I sneak food into the theatre too!!!

Yeah, I guess I consider it a part of the movie going experience. I still get my girlfriend to sneak in certain things in her purse (usually water, since I'd rather not pay $5 for a 700ml bottle of water) and we do go to bulkbarn to stock up on candy from time to time.

HOwever, there are certain things that need to had fresh/warm and certain things that I consider part of the movie going experience, so I just accept the fact that I'm spending a few dollars more than I should. Plus, we do watch movies on the spur of the moment, so there isn't always time to stock up beforehand.

And yes, things like the lack of Pizza Hut are why I think AMC's concessions options are lacking.

Eating deep fried pizza, while drinking over priced sugar water, watching over-priced entertainment films..... wooooo:banana:

I'm a hopeless spender whenever I go to the movies.. That includes the whole combo at a wopping $12.. Stupid, I know.

In case anyone is wondering why I'm up at this hour... No, I'm not insane, nor lifeless, just pulling a wonderful all night studying for the horror that is Financial Accounting. You seriously need the patience of God to put up with inventory.

Eating deep fried pizza, while drinking over priced sugar water, watching over-priced entertainment films..... wooooo:banana:

That's what fat wallets and seriously good dentists can do for you!!!

yay!!!

I'm quite sure that you can take essentially anything you want into a movie. They really don't have any right to tell you to not bring something in your hand.



Rules surrounding this are not specific, but it is against the law to bring a projectile into a theater/stadium. A can of pop would be considered a projectile. You could throw it, and it could hurt someone. A bag of candy is not considered a projectile, but most people are quite capable of throwing candy.

If you bring a backpack into the SkyDome, they will give it a squeeze. That is what they are checking for, projectiles.

Rules surrounding this are not specific, but it is against the law to bring a projectile into a theater/stadium. A can of pop would be considered a projectile. You could throw it, and it could hurt someone. A bag of candy is not considered a projectile, but most people are quite capable of throwing candy.

If you bring a backpack into the SkyDome, they will give it a squeeze. That is what they are checking for, projectiles.

I was at the Waterfront Festival one year and they wouldn't let us bring in a bag of chips. They made us throw them out. There was an entire garbage can full of food. I guess on one hand they were ensuring that there weren't any "projectiles" used during the concert or anywhere else on the festival grounds. On the other hand, they were pretty much forcing people to either buy the overpriced stuff inside or go hungry.

I'm quite sure that you can take essentially anything you want into a movie. They really don't have any right to tell you to not bring something in your hand.

Dude. It's their property. They have every right.

The profits come from concessions. In fact, the cost for admission is usally a money loser when you take into account operational costs and licensing fees.

Movie stars are GROSSLY, and I mean GROSSLY over compensated. We wind up paying for
it at the box office.

Movie stars are GROSSLY, and I mean GROSSLY over compensated.

I disagree. They bring in the bags of money and have to contend with an insatiable audience that wants to know every single bowel movement while the producers making 10 times as much for a hit movie (many times a miss in the theatres becomes a hit on DVD) can walk down the street relatively unknown.

So, we have to shell out $10 to go see a film so someone can get paid $10 million and live in a palace in Beverley Hills, but it's ok because papparazi follow them around? Where do I sign up?

It is outrageous beyond belief and the logic is backward. They are followed around because they are so ridiculously over paid and spoiled. Pay them $20/hour instead and give some of the other thousands of very talented actors some of the work.

And it's not just the actors, it's the whole industry. Talk about a fix. These people have figured out how to control all the cinemas, split a multi-billion dollar industry among just a few players, and keep the number of actors working low. If any other industry worked like this, the industry would be taken to anti-trust court so fast your head would spin.

People tolerate it because they are rich, famous, and pretty.



Back to Metropolis:


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2331/2307970697_1b132d7f5b_b.jpg

Wow it looks like a Borg ship from this angle.

EDIT: I actually kinda like it!

There probably aren't too many other people that agree, but I love this side of the building too. It's one of my favourite strips in the whole city. Coruscanti is right, it does look like a Borg ship. Nothing subtle about it, but that's why it's great.

That is a cool shot.......

Resistance is futile.

We will assimilate you!

So, we have to shell out $10 to go see a film so someone can get paid $10 million and live in a palace in Beverley Hills, but it's ok because papparazi follow them around? Where do I sign up?

It is outrageous beyond belief and the logic is backward. They are followed around because they are so ridiculously over paid and spoiled. Pay them $20/hour instead and give some of the other thousands of very talented actors some of the work.

And it's not just the actors, it's the whole industry. Talk about a fix. These people have figured out how to control all the cinemas, split a multi-billion dollar industry among just a few players, and keep the number of actors working low. If any other industry worked like this, the industry would be taken to anti-trust court so fast your head would spin.

People tolerate it because they are rich, famous, and pretty.



Back to Metropolis:




There probably aren't too many other people that agree, but I love this side of the building too. It's one of my favourite strips in the whole city. Coruscanti is right, it does look like a Borg ship. Nothing subtle about it, but that's why it's great.

It's gray, it's brutal. Very Toronto.

Dude, it's your hate-on for TO that's grey and brutal!:bash:

So, we have to shell out $10 to go see a film so someone can get paid $10 million and live in a palace in Beverley Hills, but it's ok because papparazi follow them around? Where do I sign up?


a whole $10 dollars ... probably a whole 20 minutes of your life plugging away in front of a computer screen ... oh the humanity!!!



If any other industry worked like this, the industry would be taken to anti-trust court so fast your head would spin.



What a load! Name one industry in Canada that has more than 4 or 5 major players? I'm sure it exists but it will take you awhile to find it.

WOW....that may be the only beautiful side of this building. It actually has some form and rhythm.

actors and athletes are paid because they are entertainers and they have a skill that ppl are willing to pay to see live or at the theatre. If you hate these actors so much because they are jealous you should simply stop watching there movies or stop buying those court side seats or the sports package or movie package. Stealing the movie via internet or bootleg is simply showing you might dislike them but you still appreciate there work.. How bout we simply go back to books or excersising ourselves. It might help us not be jealous we didnt pursue a lucrative career.

Are we getting screens/ads on this side ?

Seems like there are wires just hanging there in the two little inset sections ...

I don't think ads on this side make much sense, it backs onto the Univeristy right? A huge 'We buy your used textbooks' sign wouldn't be too sexy would it?! lol

a whole $10 dollars ... probably a whole 20 minutes of your life plugging away in front of a computer screen ... oh the humanity!!!


I'd rather give my $10 to some orphan in Africa, but think what you want. $10 million/film is fair pay according to you because people like Tom Hanks work so hard. No wonder the world has so many problems when there are people attempting to rationalize such absurdities. Enough already before I puke. Too late.

:puke:

I don't think ads on this side make much sense, it backs onto the Univeristy right? A huge 'We buy your used textbooks' sign wouldn't be too sexy would it?! lol

There seems to be two large identical rectangles indented with heavy duty cables dangling out of them. It looks like there will be some sort of billboard/lighting feature here. Perhaps the cinema will advertise to lure Ryerson students in.

Those 2 indents belong to Ryerson. They will be used for Ryerson branding.

Dude. It's their property. They have every right.



They don't have every right (unless there is a contract in place - which could be part of the ticket for some events), but will let everyone think that they do.

If movie theatres had a right, then you would see a big sign saying "no food or beverages beyond this point" right at the entrance.

They don't have every right (unless there is a contract in place - which could be part of the ticket for some events), but will let everyone think that they do.

If movie theatres had a right, then you would see a big sign saying "no food or beverages beyond this point" right at the entrance.

Some of them do have signs, but a sign isn't required. Its private property so they can make up whatever rule they want. You don't have a right to be there, so if they want to kick you out for bringing in outside food or drink, they have every right to.

Back to Metropolis:

There probably aren't too many other people that agree, but I love this side of the building too..

I was just wondering where this building could be..... when I read the rest of your post. Looking very sharp indeed.

Back to Metropolis:

There probably aren't too many other people that agree, but I love this side of the building too. It's one of my favourite strips in the whole city. Coruscanti is right, it does look like a Borg ship. Nothing subtle about it, but that's why it's great.

I got a little confused here. I'm ScrapeTheSky on this board! Guess you copied my comment from UT!

And I hope they don't put ads on that side, it would ruin the Borgesque look.

That would be confusing.

I agree that I prefer it without ads, but it looks like there may end up being some. Perhaps, Trekkies will end up holding their conventions in there. At first a Borg ship didn't come to mind. It reminded me of the Nostromo cargo ship in the movie Alien.

I'd rather give my $10 to some orphan in Africa, but think what you want. $10 million/film is fair pay according to you because people like Tom Hanks work so hard. No wonder the world has so many problems when there are people attempting to rationalize such absurdities. Enough already before I puke. Too late.


To each his own. I like movies. It's still more fulfilling then the $10 martini most of the time. The actors are completely deserving of the small cut they get. Contrary to what you believe, they do work hard and neither is the work at all glamorous.

Neither am I big on socialist extremes

I would hardly call the wages for Hollywood actors a "small cut", nor would I say the same about bloated, overpaid professional athletes. But then, I am a big old pinko Commie!! :banana:

Personally I think actors and athletes are overpaid. But if you TRULY have a problem with that, DON'T watch Hollywood movies! Don't financially support an industry you don't support ideologically. Personally I'll keep supporting the franchises I like: Star Trek, Star Wars, Battlestar Galactica, Lost, Heroes, Doctor Who, Torchwood (yes there's a definite sci-fi slant there :))

I would hardly call the wages for Hollywood actors a "small cut",

We're not talking about an employee earning $15000/yr at a McD's franchise with gross revenues of $800000/yr. We're talking about the lead role, the moneymaker, earning 3$0 million for a movie that may gross several billion dollars worldwide.

I doubt that too many on this forum could run flat out for several blocks every five to ten minutes for 16 hours straight as it may take to film a 10 sec action sequence.

I still remember the public outcry when the actors on Seinfeld demanded one million per episode. Well, the show ended and George, Elaine and Kramer received their final paycheque. And executive producer Jerry, well ... I can only imagine he's still receiving close to a million dollars per episode per the 10 years off the air and I'm not talking about one season but the entire series

They might deserve good recompense, but not a snowball's chance in Hell do they deserve that kind of money. They are paid more than leaders of countries, or CEO's of international corporations, and often with little training or even talent. I don't ask they be paid $9 an hour, but I also don't like being the one to pay the bill when I go to watch a film at the cinema and it costs $30 for two people. Hell, I work hard. Most people on this board work hard. But I would hardly expect $1,000,000 just for showing up for a hard day's work.

They might deserve good recompense, but not a snowball's chance in Hell do they deserve that kind of money. They are paid more than leaders of countries, or CEO's of international corporations, and often with little training or even talent. I don't ask they be paid $9 an hour, but I also don't like being the one to pay the bill when I go to watch a film at the cinema and it costs $30 for two people. Hell, I work hard. Most people on this board work hard. But I would hardly expect $1,000,000 just for showing up for a hard day's work.

I would much rather see actors earning as much money as they can as opposed to studio execs. Lets face it...the market dictates the value and if actors are short changed, the money will just go to the executives instead.

We're not talking about an employee earning $15000/yr at a McD's

What I find funny is that here in Toronto they make peanuts, in the US a burger flipper at McDs in south strip (across from Mandalay Bay) in Vegas makes $30,000US, Manager $75,000US down there.. they post their salaries on the wall to lure people to get a job. Good way to do it, made my mouth drop.

This is purely my humble opinion.

Pro athletes and actors get paid a lot because of the high risk aspect of their job. When I say High Risk, I don't mean being a miner in China. It's their high risk of failure. The chance of an aspiring actor or athlete to make it, is very very very slim. How many of you personally knows a high paying pro sport athlete or Hollywood actor? But we sure know many waiters who are aspiring actors (or failed actors) or tennis pros at your local clubs that failed to crack the top 100.

The higher the risk you take in your career, the higher your possible achievements. But at the same time, the greater the chance of your failure (just look at Conrad Black!!). Most of us take the low risk route in life and we end up with a relatively safe career (not as safe as it used to be but I digress) that will give you plenty of time to complain about how much the athletes and actors make.

So, the next time you think pro-athletes and actors are being paid way too much, you should also think about the 10s of thousands (may be millions) of failed attempts behind their success.

But back to Metropolis. I saw a subway ad about AMC at dundas and it's opening on March 25th.

But I would hardly expect $1,000,000 just for showing up for a hard day's work.


I don't think your quite the marketable asset that your company can use to double its expected revenue in the hundreds of millions of dollars. $30 bucks for two people? I paid $30 bucks for one person (50% off) to see some heavyweight pop a lung who I know is not getting their fair take.

Leaders? CEOs? You don't really need training or skills to be one of them.

But you are missing my point.. this is what I object to:

"double its expected revenue in the hundreds of millions of dollars."

the whole industry is out of control, and is slowly pricing itself out of the market... hence all the people downloading movies for free from the internet.
The scale of the money involved, and the wages being paid to the stars is, in my opinion, becoming obscene. We wind up paying for it all at the box-office, and that is what I object to. I am afraid that the argument that stars "work hard" gets used too much. Everyone works hard; many of us for up to 200 days a year. I say handsomely recompense actors... even lavishly. But I think double digit millions of dollars per film, or over a million dollars per tv episode is just plain wacko. For tv shows, advertisers pay for it, and guess who pays the price of the advertisers in the long run? Joe Q. Public.

I do see your point however in what industry is the cream of the cream ... the top .001 percentile ... not making mondo Hollywood style bucks? I just don't think the emphasis on Hollywood being out off control or monopolizing the entire industry (It's shoes aren't even the biggest) when the whole world runs this way is all that fair.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2258/2315686994_5529eb2fde_b.jpg
source: http://www.flickr.com/photos/25211216@N00/2315686994

^^What a great shot that is!!

It is a wonderful shot! Where did you capture the shot from??

TORONTO

That's a beauty shot, looks to be from Dundas, not sure where though, but east of Spadina.

^^ Yup, Dundas Street East looking into Dundas Square. Just next to Bay and Dundas.

BTW, absolutely brilliant shot!!

The fact that the shot is perfectly aligned with the south sidewalk of Dundas street means it must have been taken from the building on the south-west corner of University and Dundas. This also makes sense from what you can see in the picture, such as One City Hall condos, and the Chinese restaurants in the foreground.
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z236/Ziggy5857/University-Dundas.png

PS, upon further investigation, looking at the flickr source, he also has this picture which must have been taken from the same building:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2286/2314877171_77ac1ac91b_b.jpg
Source: Brandon King (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bking/2314877171/in/photostream) from flickr

You went to a lot of detective work there, Ziggy.

But University and Bay? Hmmm, not sure about that one.

Very nice shots. It's kinda weird seeing cars on the top of a roof (look on the left side of the first shot).

You went to a lot of detective work there, Ziggy.

But University and Bay? Hmmm, not sure about that one.

heh heh....Oops. Thanks, I fixed it now.

The fact that the shot is perfectly aligned with the south sidewalk of Dundas street means it must have been taken from the building on the south-west corner of University and Dundas. This also makes sense from what you can see in the picture, such as One City Hall condos, and the Chinese restaurants in the foreground.
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z236/Ziggy5857/University-Dundas.png



What if there was a second sniper on the grassy knoll? ;)

I just read over at UT that E Entertainment is going to broadcast a weekend show from The Hard Rock Cafe in Dundas Square. Slowly the media is moving to the centre, of the centre of the universe.

It is the perfect location for such things.

If this becomes a media hub it will probably move the square in a better direction. It would probably lead to improvements to the billboards and a general reduction in cheapness.

Does anyone else think it's strange that on Dundas Ave, the storefronts are drasticaly different just east of Bay and west of Bay? The run down looking random restaurants and convenience stores just west of Bay seem so out of place. They don't really seem like the type of establishments that would emerge smack downtown...I wonder how much rent they pay

amc theatres are doing test runs march 22nd-25th. 17 theatres running free movies all day. not new releases, but stuff near the end of their run or on DVD.

theatres open the 28th for bid'ness.

Any idea if NYE celebrations are being moved to the Sq anytime soon?

I recall a rumour back when Metropolis was meant to be done before 2000, and the NYE countdown was meant to be there in 2000 and no more at NPS.

Hmmmmmm.... I am torn on that issue. I like it at NPS, because there is no better backdrop than our City Hall, however like a moth to the flame I am attracted to the idea of NYE at Dundas Square...

NYE would be fantastic there, but it's quite a bit smaller than Nathan Phillips Square and you know how jam-packed that gets. Perhaps, we could have 2 celebrations. The traditional one at City Hall with ice-skating, etc. and then a less family oriented event at Dundas Square.

Hmmmmmm.... I am torn on that issue. I like it at NPS, because there is no better backdrop than our City Hall, however like a moth to the flame I am attracted to the idea of NYE at Dundas Square...

I feel the same way, the backdrop of city hall is nice. However, when your at DS Sq, you can feel the vibe if new years was there. The Beyonce concert there was amazing, looked great in pictures (I had to work that day :( )

If the roads are closed on Yonge and Dundas that would easily accomadate 50,000 people, and NPS only gets around 35,000 on NYE according to CityTV. It can be done.

I feel the same way, the backdrop of city hall is nice. However, when your at DS Sq, you can feel the vibe if new years was there. The Beyonce concert there was amazing, looked great in pictures (I had to work that day :( )

If the roads are closed on Yonge and Dundas that would easily accomadate 50,000 people, and NPS only gets around 35,000 on NYE according to CityTV. It can be done.

The giant monitors would also allow people to see whats going on south on Yonge St. (via the metropolis screen), north on yonge st. (via the screen above the hardrock, and west on Dundas (via the screen on the torch)

Imagine a ball drop from on top of torch?

Ball drop? Can't anything be original?

Imagine a ball drop from on top of torch?

If its in the shape of the ball, it would be the Rogers logo.
I can hear it now, "Welcome to the Rogers New Years Eve countdown! ,
5, 4, 3, 2, 1, *rogers sound from ads* Happy New Year!"

Ball drop? Can't anything be original?

How about a square?

Well according to the website (TLS) the signage on top of the building is not happening it seems. What you see now is what you get, however, it is a real picture not a render so who knows. Keep your fingers crossed.. lol.. not that it'll make it better but hey it's more crap on crap, haha!

Something that makes things interesting tho, is if you scroll down on the main page, you see a Vodafone sign on some building under News... now the govt has opened up for new carriers, wonder if this will be one :)
http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/9321/image1ek9.jpg

Also, here's the store directory, http://www.torontolifesquare.com/directory/#31 , oh and no McDonaldas is shown, so that's good news. A Harveys is being put in there... mmmmm :)

Wow, we've gone from a Wolfgang Puck's to a Jack Astors. This place just keeps getting better. And not that Wolfgang Puck was anything special, but at least they don't blink the letters on the signage to spell "Jack Ass". I can imagine the guy patting himself on the back for coming up with that.

Something that makes things interesting tho, is if you scroll down on the main page, you see a Vodafone sign on some building under News... now the govt has opened up for new carriers, wonder if this will be one :)
http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/9321/image1ek9.jpg



Ginza, Tokyo.

http://images.google.ca/url?q=http://www.galen-frysinger.ws/japan/ginza01.jpg&usg=AFQjCNE-hXglkM2DSbmz_fznVWL_g3DTww

http://www.lib.uwo.ca/weldon/news/hottopics/images/ginza-6.jpg

If I remember reading the article on G&M correctly, there are no foreign telecom companies interested in bidding for the new spectrum. There's Videotron, MTS and a few other Canadian companies.

The giant curved screen's pixels are always screwed up. And the one on the tower about the Forever21 store was also going screwy at the same time this morning around 10am... it showed "Windows XP" and what was possibly a computer desktop background. LOL! :banana:

Good eye Skybean, wow Tokyo looks so much better than NYC Times Sq ;) I always wanted to go to Japan.

Am in Montreal now, and just went to the big FutureShop downtown- I have a question for those here who said it was much nicer and sleeker design than the one at TLS.. is there another one somewhere in Montreal that you guys were talking about, cuz the big one downtown is ghastly....

Am in Montreal now, and just went to the big FutureShop downtown- I have a question for those here who said it was much nicer and sleeker design than the one at TLS.. is there another one somewhere in Montreal that you guys were talking about, cuz the big one downtown is ghastly....

... that might have been me.

It's far nicer than TLS - common'

... that might have been me.

It's far nicer than TLS - common'

You must be joking! It looks like Honest Ed's inside. Are we talking about the same one? Close to the big Hudson Bay store downtown? It is the flagship one... completely unfinished concrete ceiling.. exposed pipes and electrical. Total bargain basement effect.. I was absolutely shocked that this seems to be Future Shop's approach. I'll bet they actually thought they had really made a special effort at TLS judging from the one on Ste Catherine...

anybody have pics of the atrocity...er, building now that the last sign is up?

AMC theatres are open for free films this weekend, btw.

From urbantoronto,

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff271/voiceofreality/TLS.jpg

Ugh...the building looks like a collage of candy canes with all the white and red. Hopefully we'll get some more colourful and less bland posters up.

Well the combination of 3 (or so) companies that feature red prominently in their logos plus one of the biggest add being for a strawberry yogurt would give the effect of lots of red and white.

I just puked.

LOL. Sharp, AMC, Futureshop and Toronto Life are all red. There is also too much grey. Comparing to the Ginza photos above, there is much to be desired. However, it may improve if the tenants to those retail spaces add some colour into the windowed areas. Some creative backlit ads from inside stores can do a good job of pushing colour through the windows.

I too am disappointed in this project, and in fact, it is to the point of me contacting PenEquity to ask them if they even see the shortcomings of this projects, let alone correct it.

But before I do that, I am wondering if someone can tell me why there is only one column of the small panels running on the left side of the sign above 'Sharp' (the one that says 'all digital theatres' with the maroon background) compared to two columns of the small panels running on the right side....and also why is there more space between these panels on the top and bottom right hand corners? is there an actual reason for this or is it one of the many flaws of this project?

cheers.

I wish I had a scanner...

Here is how they've worded the invite for the official opening party for TLS. Save for the graphics, this is it verbatim:

IT'S A WRAP!

CELEBRATE A JOB WELL DONE

PEN EQUITY MANAGEMENT CORPORATION

invites you and a guest to a night of cocktails, hors
d'oeuvres, music and a movie to mark the completion
of the soon-to-open retail, office, and entertainment complex


Date, time, etc...

I bet whoever wrote that, was biting their tongue when thinking of what words to use.

I'll tell you how it is.

We went by last night, the 24 theaters are open - free movies Saturday, Sunday (today) and Monday...it looked very busy, and actually better than expected inside....the food court is not open yet, but it seemed like it will be very soon, likewise Starbucks at the main entrance..

Whatever we think about the architecture, this project will bring a lot of activity to Yonge/Dundas...

TLS is just one component of the more important square. The signage comes alive at night. I am looking forward to the activity in the square this summer.... may take in one of those late night freebie outdoor movies as it looked like fun.

March 22

AMC ground floor ticket area.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2379/2355374396_4bc2ebfd9f_b.jpg

From the AMC theatre level looking down at the unopened food court and Future Shop.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2419/2355374430_844ceef884_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2126/2355374438_7539b057ce_b.jpg

East side of TLS from Devonian Square.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2409/2355374448_4648d97119_b.jpg

Victoria and Gould.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3173/2355418478_c719355e71_b.jpg

AMC Theatres
Opening March 28, 2008

Sporting Goods & Clothing
Adidas
(opening soon)

Health & Beauty
Shoppers Drug Mart
(opening soon)

Services
Extreme Fitness
(opening soon)

Lottery Kiosk
(opening soon)

Food & Restaurant
Bagel Stop
(opening soon)

Baskin Robbins
(opening soon)

Beijing Express
(opening soon)

Bubble Tease
(opening soon)

California Thai
(opening soon)

Carribean Queen
(opening soon)

Cinnabon
(opening soon)

Crepe Delicious
(opening soon)

Gundam Base
(opening soon)

Harvey's
(opening soon)

Jack Astor's Bar & Grill
(opening soon)

Johnny Rockets
(opening soon)

Jugo Juice
(opening soon)

Juice Rush
(opening soon)

Kitchen Food Fair
(opening soon)

Koryo
(opening soon)

Made in Japan
(opening soon)

Milestone's Grill & Bar
(opening soon)

Mrs. Field's & Pretzelmaker
(opening soon)

OPA! Souvlaki
(opening soon)

Pita Village
(opening soon)

Saute
(opening soon)

Starbucks
Opening March 28, 2008

Subway
(opening soon)

Sushi Q
(opening soon)

Tim Hortons
NOW OPEN

Timothy's
(opening soon)

Vici Gelateria and Café
(opening soon)

Electronics
Bell Solo
(opening soon)

Bell World
NOW OPEN

Future Shop
NOW OPEN

Rogers Plus
(opening soon)

http://www.torontolifesquare.com/directory/

"Gundam Base
(opening soon)"

:?

^^ I read it as "Godamn Base" and wondered what on earth it was! LOL!
Don't see anything on the list to draw me in.

What the hell? It's like a big food court.

It's not a food court, its an ethno-cultural budget pot luck. although anything truly ethnic has been replaced with tastes that the average Canadian (think someone from the 60s) wouldn't be offended by. in other words, worse than a food court, a bland food court.

So is this food court going to become a Regent Park hang out?

What's going to stop this place from becoming like the Harvey's and Flea Market that it replaced?

^^ Are you actually being serious?

... ya. Right now the hang-out is the arcade on Yonge Street.

You don't think Eaton Centre doesn't work very hard at not becoming the hang-out for Regent Park wannabe gansta's?

You watch if security is lax at TLS - it will become a problem spot.

"Gundam Base
(opening soon)"

Fuck yeah.

... ya. Right now the hang-out is the arcade on Yonge Street.

You don't think Eaton Centre doesn't work very hard at not becoming the hang-out for Regent Park wannabe gansta's?

You watch if security is lax at TLS - it will become a problem spot.

FYI that arcade on Yonge St. is across the street from the covenant house. The problems have nothing to do with Regent Park.

FYI that arcade on Yonge St. is across the street from the covenant house. The problems have nothing to do with Regent Park.

ya, the boatloads of guys who mill around in front of the place all day are coming in from Vaughn.

Where do you think these people live? The Annex? And the arcade is equal distance from TLS.

BTW - College Park (ParK) is summer has become the hotspot for ganstas' - I guess the cameras on Yonge do work.

College Park has always been a hang out for "weekend streetkids" and Richmondhill Gangsta's...

hopefully with the addition of a couple more towers and thus more eyes on the park something can be done to improve the situation.

College Park has always been a hang out for "weekend streetkids" and Richmondhill Gangsta's...

hopefully with the addition of a couple more towers and thus more eyes on the park something can be done to improve the situation.

... thank you - so I'm not the only person that noticed.

I was through College Park (the building) the other day - and tons of hoods hanging out there.

I notice the Gangsta's hang out around the park all summer.

Only a matter of time before a working class citizen is shot.

When the $6 million dollar townhomes that overlook the park are completed, security will be beefed up, I'm sure of it.

There's gorgeous looking btw. I just saw them tonight.

I think the owners of those expensive townhouses are going to have a world of trouble with security...they may end up needing iron bars on the doors and windows...

/just sayin'

So is this food court going to become a Regent Park hang out?

What's going to stop this place from becoming like the Harvey's and Flea Market that it replaced?

Funny how I got the same vibe when I dropped by last weekend to check out the AMC....

I think the owners of those expensive townhouses are going to have a world of trouble with security...they may end up needing iron bars on the doors and windows...

/just sayin'

... ya it screams security problems. Imagine the first floor units?

Plus they ladder to the roof, the open staircases.

It's going to be more an issue of the Hommies drinking and doing drugs late into the night in the park.

It's not a food court, its an ethno-cultural budget pot luck. although anything truly ethnic has been replaced with tastes that the average Canadian (think someone from the 60s) wouldn't be offended by. in other words, worse than a food court, a bland food court.

I really don't understand why the food courts in Toronto is so crappy. For such a ethnically diverse city, I am shocked that people still eat Manchu Wok! In Hong Kong, food courts are no longer operated by branded franchise. Instead, it is managed by the mall property management but operated by individual operators. i.e. no brand name (or just one single food court brand name), just different types of food (e.g. Thai, Shanghai dumpling, Indian, Japanese, Korean, etc). And the quality is actually quite decent (definitely above food court, think Spring Roll quality).

I have the same complaint about the new Pearson terminal 1 eatery offering. It's so un-Toronto when your choice is burger, burger, or non-offensive mystery fish-less maki rolls (who knows how long they have been in that fridge....). But that's a whole new topic.

My food court post got me thinking.
What would be your replacement tenants for TLS? Here're my picks:

Future Shop ----> FNAC (www fnac com) = Futureshop minus appliances plus books plus in-store cultural events (book reading, photography seminar, etc)
Jack Astor's ----> Asian Legend
Beijing Express ----> A Cooked Food outlet of T&T Supermarket
Extreme Fitness ----> An olympic size swimming pool operated by the city (don't we have enough gym in that neighbourhood already?)

I'm not entirely certain why anyone would even eat at a foodcourt downtown. There are a billion real restaurants... why choose to eat mall food?

no disrespect, but Yonge and Dundas is simply not feasible for maintaining an Olympic sized pool.
Yes we need one, but not at that intersection.

I EAT AT THE FOOD COURTS ALL THE TIME>.... Because it is cheaper and faster... Not every meal can I either spend alot of money or wait arround for a incompetant waitress.

There are tons of cheap but real restaurants downtown. Personally I think I would rather pack a lunch than eat at food courts all the time, but that is just me. Once in awhile I could find at least something ok there, but the food is pretty awful.

My fav food court of choice downtown is the Atrium on Bay food court and the College Park food court.

I like them because they are quiet. I hate the Eaton Centre food courts.. too loud.

I look forward to the TLS food court. I can't wait to look out the windows overlooking yonge street.

Im another one who will pick the food court over a real restaurant when downtown. Its just more convenient.

Eaton Centre used to have a Jamaican jerk chicken place that was ok, but they replaced it with "Bourbon St", which claims to be Cajun food, but to my eye and taste it is just another one of the many low end Asian food places in that food court. I see nothing Cajun about that food, and there is a shocking lack of variety in that place. A&W makes a great Teen Burger, though! :)

TLS will not be complete until it contains a White Castle and/or an In-N-Out.

fast food is pretty useless to humanity, go eat some real food you sickos. :)

I really don't understand why the food courts in Toronto is so crappy. For such a ethnically diverse city, I am shocked that people still eat Manchu Wok!

People think its healthy and apparently some people actually think it's good authentic food. There are never any real Chinese people who eat there consistently. Imagine if these Manchu Wok regulars tried some real authentic food that real Chinese eat... well it's already happened with some more authentic fast food places in the downtown PATH. At these places there are endless lineups. A gem in the fast food chain mess is very rare.

More authentic fast food joints which reflect the diversity of the city would be great.

I'm not entirely certain why anyone would even eat at a foodcourt downtown.

My guilty pleasure: I love Chinese food from food courts. I have had Chinese food from proper restaurants, but I still love the food court stuff.

Eaton Centre used to have a Jamaican jerk chicken place that was ok, but they replaced it with "Bourbon St", which claims to be Cajun food, but to my eye and taste it is just another one of the many low end Asian food places in that food court. I see nothing Cajun about that food, and there is a shocking lack of variety in that place. A&W makes a great Teen Burger, though! :)

Blasphemy! Bourbon Street Grill tastes like HEAVEN!

I see tons of Asian people go to Thai Express (my fav food court place). Manchu Wok, not so much. I usually do Thai Express or Subway. But also A&W and Manchu Wok when I'm in the mood for them.

I have no problems with foodcourts. I won't go to a real restaurant alone. I'm not gonna sit by myself.

fast food is pretty useless to humanity, go eat some real food you sickos. :)

Yes, however, White Castle + In-N-Out > humanity.

Im another one who will pick the food court over a real restaurant when downtown. Its just more convenient.

Wait this is sarcasm, right?

Blasphemy! Bourbon Street Grill tastes like HEAVEN!

but...but... but.... ??? :dunno:
Wow, I ate there once or twice when it was new, and just glanced briefly at it, and it seemed like Chinese fast food. Didn't remind me of anything in New Orleans. What is good there? Maybe I am missing out on something.

Wait this is sarcasm, right?

haha, yeah it should be...how many food courts we got? not too many...take-out is the ultimate tool nowadays.

In Hong Kong, food courts are no longer operated by branded franchise. Instead, it is managed by the mall property management but operated by individual operators. i.e. no brand name (or just one single food court brand name), just different types of food (e.g. Thai, Shanghai dumpling, Indian, Japanese, Korean, etc). And the quality is actually quite decent (definitely above food court, think Spring Roll quality).
.

a food court all run by the same management? Doesn't sound very appealing to me.

Wait this is sarcasm, right?

No... Im downtown for school, not to go out for lunch. I grab food and bring it back to my building... something I cant do when im at a restaurant. Hence why fast food is my main choice.

Even fast food is hard to grab this semester since I go through 2 days with no breaks in between classes. I usually just grab something from Timmy's which is everywhere on campus.

Regardless of some of the nay sayers, this place along with the new CITYTV digs will solidify Dundas Square as the hub (main meeting place) of the city.

Some of the signage is a bit underwhelming/bland but I actually like the building, grey paint and all.

http://www.thestar.com/entertainment/article/404767

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Projecting magic


On the fifth floor of the AMC Yonge & Dundas 24, sandwiched between two floors of movie auditoriums, is a corridor of unnervingly quiet digital movie projectors. (An example is below.)

Standing in rows like Cubist versions of Easter Island statues, they don't whir or click like the projectors of old. You can't see any motion, apart from the tiny data lights on the boxes or the flickering images they throw upon the faraway silver screens.

It's a matter of personal taste whether digital projection is better than the sprocket-and-reel celluloid that has served cinema for more than a century.

A fresh print in either format looks and sounds very good, almost identical to these eyes and ears. The difference comes over time. Digital will always look and sound exactly the same, while celluloid will degrade.

Digital also allows AMC to make good use of the 3-D technology that Hollywood honchos are confidently predicting as the next big thing in movies.

Peter Howell





Yonge-Dundas area's forgotten theatres
The streets around Yonge and Dundas Sts. used to be known for their movie houses with huge auditoriums, distinctive architecture and innovative marketing.Yonge and Dundas Sts. was once Toronto's movie hub and a new theatre complex hopes to make it that way again

Mar 28, 2008 04:30 AM
Peter Howell
Movie Critic

Toronto's newest megaplex is so into its movie mission, even the flooring talks Hollywood.

"It's showtime, folks!" shouts a quote from All That Jazz, inlaid into the terrazzo that sprawls between the snack bars and theatres at the AMC Yonge & Dundas 24.

Other film sayings roar from the floor: "I'm walkin' here!'' (Midnight Cowboy), "Go ahead, make my day" (Sudden Impact) and "Show me the money!" (Jerry Maguire).

If it seems a tad aggressive, it's understandable. The AMC Y&D, which officially opens today after a decade of bureaucratic and construction delays, is making up for lost time.

Boasting 24 large screens, 5,000 stadium seats and digital light and sound that could make HAL 9000 jealous, the facility returns big-time moviegoing to Yonge and Dundas Sts. at a stroke, reversing the trend of decades of cinema closures in the area.

The intersection used to be Toronto's movie mecca, as recently as the 1980s. The Eaton Centre Cineplex near the southwest corner pioneered the arthouse multiplex, with its 18 small screens and 1,600 seats offering pictures from around the globe – at least until it went more commercial in the decade prior to its 2001 shuttering. The complex had long been dogged by complaints about picture quality, cramped seating and inadequate security.

Just down the road from the southeast corner, where the live-stage Canon Theatre now stands, the Imperial Six (originally the Pantages) reigned as a blockbuster paradise throughout the 1970s and '80s. Billing itself as "Canada's Largest Theatre," with a total 3,127 seats for its six large screens, it was the place to see the James Bond and Rocky franchises, and many of the classic seventies movies like The Godfather Part II, Serpico, Chinatown and Last Tango in Paris.

The Imperial Six also proudly screened the kung fu and peek-a-boo sex movies that have largely been consigned to home video, the scourge of all theatres. Canadian movies also found a home at the Imperial: Black Christmas began its profitable run there. An eclectic cast of supporting stars helped make it more than a multiplex: Xaviera Hollander showed up to help promote The Happy Hooker, her sensual sensation, and Stompin' Tom Connors had his wedding reception there.

But the Imperial never saw the 1990s, and neither did its smaller Yonge St. neighbours: the Rio, Coronet and Biltmore theatres, all just north of Dundas.

Now comes the AMC Y&D, which offers not just movies but "a true entertainment destination," to use the lingo of Andy DiOrio, the spokesman from AMC corporate home base Kansas City, Mo., who is in town for the launch.

AMC Y&D rises out of the new Toronto Life Square, a combo meeting place and retail mall that is intended to revitalize this neglected corner of Hogtown.

It's not the biggest movie megaplex in Canada or even the region – AMC already has 24-screen operations in Whitby and Mississauga – but it's the first to offer all-digital projection and sound.

It's a revolution AMC hopes will make fools out of the naysayers who predict that out-of-home movie viewing will soon go the way of cheap gasoline.

While others fret about the rise of home theatres, iPod movies and fragmented audiences, AMC obviously believes that people still want to go out for a communal good time at the movies.

It has long been a leader in cinema innovation, boasting the introduction of armrest cup holders (1981), stadium seating (1995) and the patented LoveSeat (1995 again). The AMC Y&D may seem like a shot across the bow to competitor Cineplex Entertainment, Canada's biggest movie. It operates the Varsity and Carlton multiplexes a few streets north.

But if Cineplex is fretting about the new kid on the block, it's not showing it.

"Competition is always good," says Pat Marshall, Cineplex's vice-president of communications and investor relations.

"Our focus at Cineplex has always been to be a leading-edge service provider. We were the first to introduce VIP auditoriums with service at your seat."

Cineplex has bragging rights of its own. It recently opened the SilverCity Oakville Cinemas, a 12-screen, 2,292-seat facility that includes six lanes of bowling, party rooms, a licensed VIP lounge and numerous other attractions in 45,000 square feet of fun. The company modestly calls it "the ultimate one-of-a-kind entertainment destination."

SilverCity Oakville has nine digital projectors. The other three are conventional 35mm, Marshall said in an interview, and there's a reason for that: not all films are available in digital format.

"The industry is just buzzing over digital right now, but it's not 100 per cent there yet," she said. "We chose to operate with both platforms until the industry fully converts."

AMC's decision to go all-digital, she said, "has a potential to be limiting for them."

DiOrio doesn't seem the least bit worried.

One thing that DiOrio and Marshall agree on is that public moviegoing is far from dead. At a time when other areas of the economy are contracting, movie exhibitors are in expansionist mode.

"Theatres will always be a preferred entertainment destination," DiOrio said.

"Theatres offer an opportunity to escape and immerse yourself into the movie, with a shared communal experience which simply can't be duplicated at home."

And nobody ever called a home an "entertainment destination."

I didn't get a chance to check them out in person, but it looks like AMC went slightly above and beyond their usual interior decor for this location. (There are pictures in today's Star).

Boasting 24 large screens, 5,000 stadium seats and digital light and sound that could make HAL 9000 jealous,

"Theatres offer an opportunity to escape and immerse yourself into the movie, with a shared communal experience which simply can't be duplicated at home."

And nobody ever called a home an "entertainment destination."


Oh yeah? Easy to make your own Home Entertainment System! :D

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j251/dawnd_01/Autumn%202007/winter%202007/ATT00002.jpg

Oh yeah? Easy to make your own Home Entertainment System! :D

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j251/dawnd_01/Autumn%202007/winter%202007/ATT00002.jpg

That is sweet!

"Honey!! The neighbours are complaining about your Metallica again!! "

"Honey!! The neighbours are complaining about your Metallica again!! "

What?

Oh yeah? Easy to make your own Home Entertainment System! :D

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j251/dawnd_01/Autumn%202007/winter%202007/ATT00002.jpg

yea, but does it go up to 11?

yea, but does it go up to 11?

yeah, when they need that little something extra, heh

So I finally checked out AMC tonight and give it an A.

The amount of escalators going up and down was the joke of the night... as it seemed they were never ending. The crowd control was great, as the line did not stretch to the doors as it did previous days. I was ready to pay for my movie, showed my student ID and they let me in free, (Ryerson students are free for the weekend) while all my friends had to pay. Free popcorn was pretty good too.

I love the interior of the AMC. They did a great job with it. Despite the escalators being the joke of the night, they really added to the experience. It was pretty fun.

I noticed outside food and drink was allowed. Im not sure if it will continue being allowed (seeing as there is a food court one floor below and a starbucks in the lobby, which is now open) or if its just because its the grand opening.

Overall it was a great experience. I prefer it over Scotiabank theatre.

So I finally checked out AMC tonight and give it an A.

The amount of escalators going up and down was the joke of the night... as it seemed they were never ending. The crowd control was great, as the line did not stretch to the doors as it did previous days. I was ready to pay for my movie, showed my student ID and they let me in free, (Ryerson students are free for the weekend) while all my friends had to pay. Free popcorn was pretty good too.

I love the interior of the AMC. They did a great job with it. Despite the escalators being the joke of the night, they really added to the experience. It was pretty fun.

I noticed outside food and drink was allowed. Im not sure if it will continue being allowed (seeing as there is a food court one floor below and a starbucks in the lobby, which is now open) or if its just because its the grand opening.

Overall it was a great experience. I prefer it over Scotiabank theatre.


... but the real question is ... would you want a lecture in the theatres?

... but the real question is ... would you want a lecture in the theatres?

I'll bet the seating is about 500 times more comfortable than any other lecture hall in the world, and there is a place to hold your Jumbo Diet Coke!! :cheers:

... but the real question is ... would you want a lecture in the theatres?

Hell yea! Its no different than the current lecture theatres we have. (minus the theatre smell)

As for cup holders, there wont be any. The desks slide into those cup holders.

Get a baseball hat that has a beer can holder with a plastic tube coming down. Who needs
diet Coke anyway?

Get a baseball hat that has a beer can holder with a plastic tube coming down. Who needs
diet Coke anyway?

That would come in handy for the times we watch movies in class. I wonder if they will use the theatre projector or if there is a smaller one for power point presentations and movies?

i heard that movies are free all week for rye students now, it's been extended...any truth to that?

TLS is getting a major overhaul of the billboards in 2009, at the cost of $60 million.

Coca Cola, Rogers, Sharp, and AMC are going to make it super red to coincide with the Rogers TV station next door. Check the TLS (metropolis) site under news.

TLS is getting a major overhaul of the billboards in 2009, at the cost of $60 million.

Coca Cola, Rogers, Sharp, and AMC are going to make it super red to coincide with the Rogers TV station next door. Check the TLS (metropolis) site under news.

So we'll be going from Times Square to Red Square?! :lol:

In other news... my wallet is now being emptied every morning with Starbucks open, and being on my way to class.

Couldn't have asked for a better location... and the position within TLS is perfect too. You walk in, grab your coffee and walk right back out. For those with more time on their hands, a stop at Dundas square can complete the experience.

TLS is getting a major overhaul of the billboards in 2009, at the cost of $60 million.

Coca Cola, Rogers, Sharp, and AMC are going to make it super red to coincide with the Rogers TV station next door. Check the TLS (metropolis) site under news.

April fools joke?

There is a new ad (ITS LIME GREEN!!!) on the eastern side of TLS where the Telus and TLS ad once was. The ad is for a new cell phone company and takes up both billboards.

Edit: The company is Koodo Mobile (www.koodomobile.com) and is owned by Telus. Their plans look amazing and have no system access fees! Lets hope this results in price reductions at Fido/Rogers and Bell!

hehe, yeah i'll admit, it's a joke ;) but in due time it'll evolve (at least we hope)
don't worry this was the 2nd and last joke I've pulled on SSC today.. lol :)

http://www.penequitytorontolifesquare.com/torontolifesquare.htm

Wow if your a true Toronto buff - you'll be able to tell visitors the name of each billboard "backlite 4".

I don't know if I like the Toronto Life "street sign" look.

Metroboi,you seem like such an honest, sensible lad that I fell hook line and sinker for both of your April
Fool's jokes!!
Ya lousy bum!

Lol, I fell for the red square thing too. :P What was metroboi's first deed of tomfoolery?

Metroboi,you seem like such an honest, sensible lad that I fell hook line and sinker for both of your April
Fool's jokes!!
Ya lousy bum!

You know you love me, hahahah
It was over Aura being over 900ft on the City of Toronto site.. lol
C'mon guys you'd know i'd post my sources if it was true ;)
Thankfully it's April 2nd now, lol..

I've been to Metropolis 3 times since the AMC theatres have opened, including today at 6pm and each time the movie theatres were completely dead. Is this place doing well or is the crappy interior so miserable, that it just scares people away. I will not spend any money in that embarssment. I'm boycotting the place. I'll walk to The Paramount.

I've been to Metropolis 3 times since the AMC theatres have opened, including today at 6pm and each time the movie theatres were completely dead. Is this place doing well or is the crappy interior so miserable, that it just scares people away. I will not spend any money in that embarssment. I'm boycotting the place. I'll walk to The Paramount.

Its new, and 6pm is still pretty early. Give it some time. It needs to pick up some big titles and Toronto Life Square needs to fill up with more tenants. Things should start picking up soon!

I've been to Metropolis 3 times since the AMC theatres have opened, including today at 6pm and each time the movie theatres were completely dead. Is this place doing well or is the crappy interior so miserable, that it just scares people away. I will not spend any money in that embarssment. I'm boycotting the place. I'll walk to The Paramount.

... nobody knows about the place yet.

It will take a while for people to adjust their film going habits.

True. I'm so much in the mindset of going either to Varsity or Paramount that I rarely think of going anywhere else. I'd give this AMC a whirl, though!

same...haven't been there yet, but planning on it soon! this summer

True. I'm so much in the mindset of going either to Varsity or Paramount that I rarely think of going anywhere else. I'd give this AMC a whirl, though!
I usually go for Carlton, I absolutely love that place.