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caltrane74
August 6th, 2007, 01:45 AM
The picture 401 King posted, is looking a little blade runnerish??

yyzer
August 6th, 2007, 02:25 AM
you said it, caltrane...!

The 'Sauga
August 6th, 2007, 08:27 AM
Disgusting.

Taller, Better
August 6th, 2007, 05:48 PM
Rendering for reference..

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/1128/exteriorrenderingnorthebx1.jpg


I'm afraid that it is going to be too subtle and understated, and that no one will notice it! ;)

401_King
August 6th, 2007, 07:41 PM
http://www.blogto.com/upload/2007/04/20070411_yongedundas.jpg

Another angle. it would be fucking sick if they showed sports games at the square on the Monitor like they have in their rendering (leafs vs sens in pic above)...absolutely sick, i'd never leave the place...... mall, theater, hot dawg stand and leafs!

Regan4000
August 6th, 2007, 11:05 PM
Yikes. Looks like a giant billboard on top of a mall with a bunch of small ads on it. Couldn't they have at least done something a tad bit more innovating? I think the idea of Metropolis is a little absurd, but they could have legitimized it much more if they had actually put some creative effort into it.

I'm sure it will look okay, but it really could have been something so much better. Rather than a defining landmark, it now just fades into a sea of ads, stretching from Queen up until Bloor.

isaidso
August 7th, 2007, 01:53 AM
They set up a large video screen at Dundas Square during the Athens Olympics, so it might be a possibility that we'll get to watch Beijing 2008 from the side of Metropolis. Let's hope.

Regan: if Metropolis doesn't live up to expectations, they still have a chance to out do themselves by building above the Hard Rock, or redeveloping to the east of the Square: Hakim Opitcal, Olympic Spirit, and Bond Hotel. Maybe north of Dundas Square could become a 3 block strip packed tight with Metropolis type commercialism, but with scrapers built above them. Tokyo, eat your heart out!

Marcanadian
August 7th, 2007, 03:15 AM
They set up a large video screen at Dundas Square during the Athens Olympics, so it might be a possibility that we'll get to watch Beijing 2008 from the side of Metropolis. Let's hope.


Watching the Olympics we could have had...

Tuscani01
August 7th, 2007, 03:25 AM
Watching the Olympics we could have had...

Yea, YD Square could have even played home to the medal awarding ceremonies every night. Get the major Olympic sponsors to jazz up TL Square with their ad's and it would have made an amazing backdrop.

isaidso
August 7th, 2007, 04:55 AM
AAAARRGGGGHHHH, don't remind me. When we get the Olympics in 2020 or 2024, Toronto will offer an even greater backdrop for the Games than it does now. Hopefully, by then we'll be a poweful summer sports nation in addition to a powerful winter sports nation. Getting beat by tiny Australia has got to stop.

urban 2.0
August 7th, 2007, 06:58 AM
You know what pisses me off about the video billboards around Y&D - they never show anything but ads!!

For example they had Just for Laughs - they could have plugged the video into one of the jumbotrons - so everyone could see the stars on stage - but nooo.

Or Toronto FC matches, Jays games, etc. They should be using the screens for more than Global "News" updates.

Jaye101
August 7th, 2007, 09:02 AM
^^ They did that for the Beyonce concert, it had A LOT of technical difficulties.

yin_yang
August 7th, 2007, 04:34 PM
^^ They did that for the Beyonce concert, it had A LOT of technical difficulties.

then they should be fixed by now, it's been a good YEAR! it's just a screen with some cables hooked up to it, for f*ck's sake.

Taller, Better
August 7th, 2007, 05:32 PM
I am really loving this late night movies in the square thing this summer, and some nights on my way home just stop for awhile and watch the crowd. They have the sound cranked up full volume, and those hundreds of metal chairs are packed. Tons of fun on a hot summer night.. who cares if you can see the same film at home with a DVD... this reminds me a lot of going to one of the old rural Drive-in Theatres!

Mollywood
August 7th, 2007, 08:48 PM
Why is there no neon on this building? Neon is such a creative and colourful way to advertise, it's so much nicer than the crap they are putting on there now.
I have very little faith that this building will be anything but an embarassment to Toronto. I am baffled as to how Pen Equity is allowed to get away with it. Developers should not be allowed to change and cheap out buildings after they have been approved, the way Pen Equity always does. They never build what they first propose, it always goes from bad to worse.

elliot
August 7th, 2007, 10:00 PM
... and worse to "for sale"....

isaidso
August 7th, 2007, 11:12 PM
I am really loving this late night movies in the square thing this summer, and some nights on my way home just stop for awhile and watch the crowd. They have the sound cranked up full volume, and those hundreds of metal chairs are packed. Tons of fun on a hot summer night.. who cares if you can see the same film at home with a DVD... this reminds me a lot of going to one of the old rural Drive-in Theatres!

Oh s**t! Thanks for the reminder. That's tonight. Gattica! I miss drive-ins also. These movie nights are great. Time to strap on the blades, and get down there. Might rain, but I'm willing to get wet.

caltrane74
August 7th, 2007, 11:13 PM
Why is there no neon on this building? Neon is such a creative and colourful way to advertise, it's so much nicer than the crap they are putting on there now.
I have very little faith that this building will be anything but an embarassment to Toronto. I am baffled as to how Pen Equity is allowed to get away with it. Developers should not be allowed to change and cheap out buildings after they have been approved, the way Pen Equity always does. They never build what they first propose, it always goes from bad to worse.

Mollywood, I feel ya.

401_King
August 8th, 2007, 12:40 AM
oh well, its still U/C , more surprises await

Regan4000
August 8th, 2007, 01:52 AM
Rogers should buy ad space, put up a giant TV screen and just play Sports Net. Straight from cable tv. It would just be one giant ad for their station and all their sponsors, plus people could watch Jays and Leaf games all year round on it.

Seems pretty simple to me. They bought the SkyDome, why can't they buy ad space at Yonge/Dundas?

isaidso
August 8th, 2007, 02:41 AM
Nah. I love that square, but would go ballistic if I continuously had to only watch sports everytime I went there. It's a public square...well, actually it's not. Dundas Square operates like the inside of a mall: there own security and they can ask you to leave when ever they want. There was outcry over it, but it is not public, to the surprise of many.

It may not be public space, but I'd still be pissed off if it catered to one portion of the public 24/7, to the exclusion of everyone else. Special events like the Olympics or movie nights are great, but 24/7 visual and audio programming is not ok.

Taller, Better
August 8th, 2007, 06:20 AM
Oh s**t! Thanks for the reminder. That's tonight. Gattica! I miss drive-ins also. These movie nights are great. Time to strap on the blades, and get down there. Might rain, but I'm willing to get wet.

I came home past it tonight, and I was amazed at the number of people who
braved the rain and watched the film! Was great to see such a crowd, even in the rain.

Jackie003
August 8th, 2007, 08:46 AM
This thing looks amazing. Haven't been there yet, is the water feature gone?

Gil
August 8th, 2007, 09:55 AM
You know what pisses me off about the video billboards around Y&D - they never show anything but ads!!

For example they had Just for Laughs - they could have plugged the video into one of the jumbotrons - so everyone could see the stars on stage - but nooo.

Or Toronto FC matches, Jays games, etc. They should be using the screens for more than Global "News" updates.

I've noticed, the screen on top of the Olympic Spirit broadcasts Global News updates, the one above the Hard Rock broadcasts City/CP 24 updates, while the one atop the Atrium on Bay by the LG sign broadcasts CBC updates. The only network missing is CTV, which I'll assume will go somewhere on the TL building. Though they do have one set up at Yonge and Bloor, maybe they'll move it or install a second one in the Square. Talk about media overload. Still, it's a bit of a respite from the repetitive ads.

Now if another major international crisis/event were to take place, I could imagine people in the Square scanning the screens for the latest updates. It'd turn the Square into a living room of sorts where people could discuss what was going on. Although YD already fulfills this role for the city, I don't think it has done so in this particular capacity.

phunky
August 8th, 2007, 10:08 AM
This thing looks amazing. Haven't been there yet, is the water feature gone?
What water feature? There hasn't been one for this development as far as I can remember?

Jackie003
August 8th, 2007, 11:22 AM
What water feature? There hasn't been one for this development as far as I can remember?

Well I haven't been there Phunky so I'm not sure. I saw in some pictures posted here before they put up the massive signage. The pics showed holes in the ground for a fountain or something.

caltrane74
August 8th, 2007, 03:55 PM
are you sure you're from Toronto?

caltrane74
August 8th, 2007, 04:08 PM
btw: the hording is down!!

Jackie003
August 8th, 2007, 07:01 PM
Yes I am from Toronto. Just because I didn't stop at the square to analyze it doesn't mean I'm not a resident lol. Usually I just pass by it if I'm at Yonge and Dundas.


Oh wait... Phunky I think u have a picture you once posted somewhere on this forum. Your standing in the square I think and there is water fountains shooting up behind u. Might be in the post your picture thread. Do u recall what I am talking about?

Mollywood
August 8th, 2007, 08:55 PM
Whenever there is a water feature in a rendering (in Toronto) it always disappears from the finished project. Did you see HTO? All the water features are gone, as well as most of the other little touches. Hell, they even wanted to remove the umbrellas and sand bar from the project. As for water features, I've never seen any on a rendering for this project but if there were, I'd say, don't count on it being done.

Dream Brother
August 8th, 2007, 08:59 PM
He's talking about the water fountains that are in the ground by the Hard Rock Café. Those have been there for bout 5 years now.

401_King
August 8th, 2007, 09:11 PM
yea the fountains are there

phunky
August 8th, 2007, 11:37 PM
Yes those fountains are at Yonge-Dundas Square. That is not a part of this building.

Jackie003
August 9th, 2007, 09:38 AM
I didn't say they they were a part of the building. I was asking if they were still in the Square. Square meaning the entire area.

phunky
August 9th, 2007, 12:17 PM
Toronto Life Square and YD Square are not the same thing, which is why I did not understand what you were saying, hence why I replied with what I did.

Taller, Better
August 9th, 2007, 12:56 PM
Whenever there is a water feature in a rendering (in Toronto) it always disappears from the finished project. Did you see HTO? All the water features are gone, as well as most of the other little touches. Hell, they even wanted to remove the umbrellas and sand bar from the project. As for water features, I've never seen any on a rendering for this project but if there were, I'd say, don't count on it being done.

What water features at YD have disappeared? Also do you have a rendering of the original idea of HtO? What water features disappeared there?

Jackie003
August 9th, 2007, 01:49 PM
Toronto Life Square and YD Square are not the same thing, which is why I did not understand what you were saying, hence why I replied with what I did.

Okay clarifying here then since punky is too technical. I am referring to the yd square area and the water features there and the question was answered now so THUS leave it alone.

thryve
August 9th, 2007, 10:20 PM
HtO is a perfectly executed park. Even if it was missing water features, I wouldn't care in the least.

Jaye101
August 9th, 2007, 10:32 PM
What water features at YD have disappeared? Also do you have a rendering of the original idea of HtO? What water features disappeared there?

The water around the park was supposed to be illuminated or something like that.

phunky
August 9th, 2007, 11:18 PM
Yes, why isn't the water illuminated?

Mollywood
August 10th, 2007, 05:18 AM
Finally, all most all the hording is down. I was beginning to think it might be a permanent fixture of Yonge St.

Jaye101
August 10th, 2007, 06:44 AM
is it still up on Dundas?

look@round
August 10th, 2007, 07:52 AM
:? Sorry about this stupid question but what is "hording"??? :dunno:
I can't find this word in any French/ English dictionnary (at least with a meaning that could suits here...). Thanks :)

Taller, Better
August 10th, 2007, 08:00 AM
It is the wooden fence that they put up (usually plywood) around a project to keep nosy people like us from entering! Often painted blue, and often has L'Oreale Because You Are Worth It ads plastered all over.

look@round
August 10th, 2007, 08:16 AM
^^ Oh, OK, thanks! :)
So I pass by Dundas Square yesterday night, and I think that the hording are still there (along Dundas st. because on Yonge they were removed a few weeks ago). Or I didn't noticed it!!

caltrane74
August 10th, 2007, 03:33 PM
I think the hoarding only remains around the subway entrance now.

Mollywood
August 12th, 2007, 01:41 AM
Finally, some good news! lol First of all, all the hording is gone. It feels so weird but good.

More good news, we are going to get a big, curvy screen, not straight! (no offence to straights lol) I was just by there today and the LCD screen brackets are definitely curved and I like it. The screen (brackets) looks almost double the size of the other screens in that area. It looks like it will be very close to the other sign, so we won't see much of that cheap, corrugated crap. (thank god) Finally, I'm seeing something on Metropolis I like! If they would just add some crazy neon, I might get really excited. lol I got a thing for bright, funky, cool, colourful neon.

Tuscani01
August 12th, 2007, 02:39 AM
is it still up on Dundas?

All down, check UT for pics!

Taller, Better
August 12th, 2007, 07:54 AM
Finally, some good news! lol First of all, all the hording is gone. It feels so weird but good.

More good news, we are going to get a big, curvy screen, not straight! (no offence to straights lol) I was just by there today and the LCD screen brackets are definitely curved and I like it. The screen (brackets) looks almost double the size of the other screens in that area. It looks like it will be very close to the other sign, so we won't see much of that cheap, corrugated crap. (thank god) Finally, I'm seeing something on Metropolis I like! If they would just add some crazy neon, I might get really excited. lol I got a thing for bright, funky, cool, colourful neon.

Excellent news.... here is to a massive LCD screen! :cheers:

metroboi_nay
August 12th, 2007, 09:11 AM
I was down there tonight and it's all gone! And the video screen on the corner of the building is being added when it is curved, so it's looking like how it does in the rendering. The industrial fans are in place and are for show only, I thought they were going to be real, hahaha :) I was I had my cam with me to take pix :P

I must agree with Mollywood, it's weird to see the blue hoarding gone, but it's nice to see it not there anymore!

rick1016
August 12th, 2007, 09:57 AM
pictures anyone?

yyzer
August 12th, 2007, 03:08 PM
courtesy of drum118 over at UT...

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1408/1084893947_d8937d2699_b.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1206/1085748946_aa5942a21e_b.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1164/1085738272_03db70737d_b.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1420/1085743532_1c996f329b_b.jpg

caltrane74
August 12th, 2007, 05:37 PM
sweet!!!

A few points

1. That Screen is Huge!!! (nice)

2.Wouldn't it be cool if the Subway Entrance was closed permanently and we could begin using the Metropolis Subway Entrance?

3. Why haven't they finished covering the insulation on the exterior? no big deal but curious.........

4. There will be precious little room for doors "opening" and "pedistrians" on Yonge or Dundas when TLS (Metropolis) opens.

BaM! door in the Face!

or

You have to wait on the sidewalk while people ingress and egress out of the place..... ( wtf, eh?)

Mollywood
August 13th, 2007, 04:22 AM
After looking at the rendering, I just realized that the led screen might not be as large as I thought. The led screen will be surrounded by a bunch of smaller screens, so when you factor that in, the space for the large screen becomes that much smaller. It might turn out to be about the same size as the other screens in that area but just surrounded by the small screens. I hope I am wrong.

Filip
August 13th, 2007, 04:25 AM
sweet!!!

A few points

1. That Screen is Huge!!! (nice)

2.Wouldn't it be cool if the Subway Entrance was closed permanently and we could begin using the Metropolis Subway Entrance?

3. Why haven't they finished covering the insulation on the exterior? no big deal but curious.........

4. There will be precious little room for doors "opening" and "pedistrians" on Yonge or Dundas when TLS (Metropolis) opens.

BaM! door in the Face!

or

You have to wait on the sidewalk while people ingress and egress out of the place..... ( wtf, eh?)
I'm pretty sure in that case the doors would open inward.

Taller, Better
August 13th, 2007, 05:30 AM
I'm pretty sure in that case the doors would open inward.

Hmmm... doesn't the fire code demand egress doors open outward in case of panic? I'm always a teeny bit surprised when I am in cities where old buildings have doors that open in.. I like to think that if
I have to get out fast I can just push a door.

Filip
August 13th, 2007, 05:32 AM
I know a lot of doors that open inward.. I'm just trying to remember where.. haha

Taller, Better
August 13th, 2007, 05:33 AM
Probably.. but I am pretty sure current fire codes would require a swing outward. Maybe someone in the business here can clarify.

valantino
August 13th, 2007, 06:44 AM
its pretty clear from the photos that they open outwards

Waterloo_Guy
August 13th, 2007, 09:23 AM
Probably.. but I am pretty sure current fire codes would require a swing outward. Maybe someone in the business here can clarify.

Absolutely. By code, doors on commercial buildings must open outwards.

caltrane74
August 13th, 2007, 06:24 PM
After looking at the rendering, I just realized that the led screen might not be as large as I thought. The led screen will be surrounded by a bunch of smaller screens, so when you factor that in, the space for the large screen becomes that much smaller. It might turn out to be about the same size as the other screens in that area but just surrounded by the small screens. I hope I am wrong.

I hope you are wrong too , but the rendering does show smaller screens..


However, I'm also still pretty sure this video screen will be bigger than the others in Dundas Square.

Regan4000
August 13th, 2007, 08:34 PM
I'm sitting here with my girlfriend. She asked what the fans were for. I replied they're just for show. Then she asked "what?", and I said "I don't know why they're there, they look retarded."

Why are they there? Is that the best they could do? Will this just look like one of those massive movie cinemas out in the suburbs that look overgrown and dated???

Jaye101
August 13th, 2007, 09:16 PM
OMG, I'm such a freak. I actually dreamed about them putting in the Screen last night.

caltrane74
August 13th, 2007, 09:38 PM
I'm sitting here with my girlfriend. She asked what the fans were for. I replied they're just for show. Then she asked "what?", and I said "I don't know why they're there, they look retarded."

Why are they there? Is that the best they could do? Will this just look like one of those massive movie cinemas out in the suburbs that look overgrown and dated???

The best thing about TLS ( like most of the buildings at Y/D) they can always be retrofitted with the latest advertising technologies. Which in theory would mean the building should never really get to badly out of date.

metroboi_nay
August 14th, 2007, 01:21 AM
Thanks for the updated pix, good that we have members who keep everyone up to date :)

Tuscani01
August 14th, 2007, 04:27 AM
I got an email from school regarding frosh week... The Ryerson frosh concert is being held in Dundas Square this year. We were kicked off the island by Virgin.

I cant wait to get back!

ericeric
August 14th, 2007, 04:51 PM
I was under the impression that the giant fans would be (mostly) covered by those floating AMC movie posters.

TorontoMegaCity
August 14th, 2007, 05:04 PM
this is awsome........

4 those ppl who want to see amazing pictures....WWW.FLICKR.COM is the website to go to see top notch toronto pics.

caltrane74
August 14th, 2007, 07:16 PM
flickr.com, eh? I'll have to check that out sometime.

:)

isaidso
August 14th, 2007, 07:33 PM
Yes, there are some great pics of Metropolis on Flickr. I hope the final product does say Metropolis on it, but I imagine Toronto Life has negated that possibility.

caltrane74
August 14th, 2007, 09:00 PM
What about the Panasonic Sign. I figure that is where the Toronto Life Square Sign will now go. (where the Panasonic Sign is in the Renders; in neon at the top of the building.)

Metropolis may still be on the wall banners... ( who knows?)

Waterloo_Guy
August 15th, 2007, 04:46 AM
flickr.com, eh? I'll have to check that out sometime.

:)

lol

Jackhammer
August 15th, 2007, 03:33 PM
I'm sitting here with my girlfriend. She asked what the fans were for. I replied they're just for show. Then she asked "what?", and I said "I don't know why they're there, they look retarded."

Why are they there? Is that the best they could do? Will this just look like one of those massive movie cinemas out in the suburbs that look overgrown and dated???
I like the fans .. gives it that Neuromancer / Blade Runnerish feel.

Jaye101
August 15th, 2007, 09:40 PM
See them in person and you'll change your mind.

caltrane74
August 15th, 2007, 10:58 PM
Hopefully the screen is this big!! ( I know it wont be, oh well)

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1117/1111773611_0683a882e5_b.jpg

Regan4000
August 16th, 2007, 12:28 AM
Looks cool. I hope that Pen Equity sign is gone soon though; it looks pretty tacky!

And wtf is up with working on one ad at a time. Wouldn't they want to have a team dedicated to installing the ads ASAP? Could they not start making money sooner? It just looks bare right now.. and granted, I know it's still under construction, but wow, why not install those ads, and start attracting attention and money.

Who cares if it's not ready inside yet?

caltrane74
August 16th, 2007, 12:33 AM
I think the slow processs with regards to installing the signage has to do with shutting down Yonge & Dundas in the process. Costly endevour to say the least!!

Dream Brother
August 16th, 2007, 12:39 AM
I think the slow processs with regards to installing the signage has to do with shutting down Yonge & Dundas in the process. Costly endevour to say the least!!

So install them at night.

Taller, Better
August 16th, 2007, 02:02 AM
I was hoping the video would be bigger, but I guess that is the full size.

Mollywood
August 16th, 2007, 03:38 AM
I wish that video screen want all the way to the top. With those smaller screens surrounding it, it would be quite flashy.

Jaye101
August 16th, 2007, 04:13 AM
The video screen is only going to take up a fraction of the space the backing implies. The screen will take up the bottom-left portion of that area, while the smaller "video tiles" will take up the remainder.

The 'Sauga
August 16th, 2007, 04:24 AM
I said it already but I'll say it again, such a disgusting waste of possibly Toronto's most important piece of prime real estate. The only redeeming feature this might have is that the billboards and videoscreens will dwarf this piece of non-architecture and hopefully be strong enough to blind us from indulging our eyes in such garbage.

[end rant]

monkeyronin
August 16th, 2007, 05:55 AM
The only redeeming feature this might have is that the billboards and videoscreens will dwarf this piece of non-architecture

Well thats kind of the point. If it wasn't to be covered with advertising, I'm sure they would have, you know, put windows and stuff up there.

Really my only complaint is the advertisments themselves. I wanted something a bit more flashy, with more neon, LEDs, videoscreens, and the like.

isaidso
August 16th, 2007, 06:22 AM
I said it already but I'll say it again, such a disgusting waste of possibly Toronto's most important piece of prime real estate.

[end rant]

To you it is a disgusting waste, to others it is the most urgently needed addition of fun in downtown Toronto. Finally, something electric, intense, loud, dramatic, charged, over the top, and just plain fun, and you don't want it. It's an overdue tribute to Canadian capitalism. It should be celebrated. What would you prefer? Another condo? Office building? BOOOOORING!!!!!!! We've got hundreds of blocks of that already, but nothing like this.

This is going to be the most photographed, iconic, magnet for tourists and Torontonians this city has ever had. It's already happening. Garish and vulgar is usually not welcome, but this is 100% brash, dazzling, exhilarating fun.

caltrane74
August 16th, 2007, 03:21 PM
I said it already but I'll say it again, such a disgusting waste of possibly Toronto's most important piece of prime real estate. The only redeeming feature this might have is that the billboards and videoscreens will dwarf this piece of non-architecture and hopefully be strong enough to blind us from indulging our eyes in such garbage.

[end rant]


Stop tryin' to squeeze a pickle between your asscheeks and have a little fun already.

:banana:

rick1016
August 16th, 2007, 03:42 PM
Why doesn't he like it?

Taller, Better
August 16th, 2007, 04:30 PM
Perhaps he misses the way it was before the reno:

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j251/dawnd_01/Summer%20Part%20Two/oldyongedundas.jpg

The 'Sauga
August 16th, 2007, 04:34 PM
To you it is a disgusting waste, to others it is the most urgently needed addition of fun in downtown Toronto. Finally, something electric, intense, loud, dramatic, charged, over the top, and just plain fun, and you don't want it. It's an overdue tribute to Canadian capitalism. It should be celebrated. What would you prefer? Another condo? Office building? BOOOOORING!!!!!!! We've got hundreds of blocks of that already, but nothing like this.

This is going to be the most photographed, iconic, magnet for tourists and Torontonians this city has ever had. It's already happening. Garish and vulgar is usually not welcome, but this is 100% brash, dazzling, exhilarating fun.

I have nothing against the function of the building at all, I believe that something like this is perefect for the intersection. I'm just appalled by its total lack of archtectural consideration, and another cheaped-out and poorly executed job by PenEquity. Given that this is one of Toronto's busiest and most important intersections, it is an embarassment architectural wise. And I don't see anything "iconic" about this building in general, it will receive a lot of exposure due to it being right smack in YD Square but it is definitely not photogenic as you glorify it to be. Now the Crystal ROM building, that's iconic and a tourits must see.

I would of still muchos prefered it if they went with the Core architects design: www.corearchitects.com (Work>Commercial>Metropolis)

Whatever, with that being said, I'm really not going to waste my time on this anymore, this Ginza in a nutshell building might grow on me overtime as it'll be overwhelmned by ads but till then. But if you seem to like this building so much, cheers and enjoy! :cheers:

caltrane74
August 16th, 2007, 04:44 PM
Perhaps he misses the way it was before the reno:

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j251/dawnd_01/Summer%20Part%20Two/oldyongedundas.jpg

Taller this picture is one block south of the Metropolis....

:(

caltrane74
August 16th, 2007, 04:49 PM
This is what you are lookin' for:


http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/5200/dundasyongely3.jpg



This...

.... is far better: ( and it maintains the add-on, tack-on advertising theme)

....

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1117/1111773611_0683a882e5_b.jpg

Notice the how the first building looks like a 40's or 50's building covered in advertising. Just like TLS.

Taller, Better
August 16th, 2007, 04:51 PM
Hmmmmm....now I am confused. I thought these buildings were demolished for Yonge Dundas renos. Are you saying these still exist?!




Thanks for that other old photo. I remember that tacky and failed Windows on Yonge Street restaurant! LOL! Also I played pin ball a few times at that arcade. I used to love the tacky plastic sign across the street for another pinball arcade:" Yonge Street is FUN Street"! haha

caltrane74
August 16th, 2007, 04:59 PM
they were demolished. But those buildings you posted made way for "Yonge-Dundas Square" not Metropolis - TLS.

Taller, Better
August 16th, 2007, 05:08 PM
Oh, yes... I figured that was the corner they were on. I was thinking this was about the whole YD square. Shocking to see those old photos and thank god someone made this plan to revitalize the area. One of the smartest moves made here. Can you imagine if they had done nothing?

isaidso
August 17th, 2007, 12:15 AM
I have nothing against the function of the building at all, I believe that something like this is perefect for the intersection. I'm just appalled by its total lack of archtectural consideration, and another cheaped-out and poorly executed job by PenEquity. Given that this is one of Toronto's busiest and most important intersections, it is an embarassment architectural wise. And I don't see anything "iconic" about this building in general, it will receive a lot of exposure due to it being right smack in YD Square but it is definitely not photogenic as you glorify it to be. Now the Crystal ROM building, that's iconic and a tourits must see.

I would of still muchos prefered it if they went with the Core architects design: www.corearchitects.com (Work>Commercial>Metropolis)

Whatever, with that being said, I'm really not going to waste my time on this anymore, this Ginza in a nutshell building might grow on me overtime as it'll be overwhelmned by ads but till then. But if you seem to like this building so much, cheers and enjoy! :cheers:

OK, that's fair enough. From what I can see, the CORE design is superior, but I assumed your criticism was with the type of development that Metropolis is. Metropolis architecturally can not stand by itself, but will rely on video screens and billboards to hide its bones.

I too, initially had hoped for a more sophisticated design, but rationalized that I should be thankful that we got this type of development. Metropolis looks awful right now, but realize that this type of building can only be judged once it is finished.

Photogenic? The photos taken by tourists are endless. They aren't taking photos because it is beautiful like the Pompidou Centre or Versailles, but they certainly are taking photos.

Taller, Better
August 17th, 2007, 07:05 AM
Pic yesterday:


http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j251/dawnd_01/Summer%20Part%20Two/IMGP7233.jpg

isaidso
August 17th, 2007, 08:33 AM
Is there still little confirmation regarding the tenants? A cinema is the main anchor correct? My sister and I were speculating on it the other day. The area needs a Shopper's Drug Mart and a good coffee shop. If you don't want Tim Horton's you have to travel 2 - 5 blocks for a Lettieri's, Timothy's, Starbucks, or Second Cup. Heading into the Eaton Centre is too far and malls close earlier.

The Canadian Music Hall of Fame was an interesting idea that I saw included in one of the renders. Perhaps eventually, this area will get a Sobeys Express or a Longo's. There is no mini grocery around here. Another 5,000 people living within a few blocks should warrant the need.

catcher_of_cats
August 17th, 2007, 02:50 PM
Is there still little confirmation regarding the tenants? A cinema is the main anchor correct? Perhaps eventually, this area will get a Sobeys Express or a Longo's. There is no mini grocery around here. Another 5,000 people living within a few blocks should warrant the need.

They are getting a large Future Shop that has been known for 5 years. Also there are 2 full sized Dominion grocery stores within a 5 minute walk so there is no chance of a mini-grocery store here.

rick1016
August 17th, 2007, 03:31 PM
Who goes there to shop for groceries?

bar1967
August 17th, 2007, 04:19 PM
Is there still little confirmation regarding the tenants? A cinema is the main anchor correct? My sister and I were speculating on it the other day. The area needs a Shopper's Drug Mart and a good coffee shop. If you don't want Tim Horton's you have to travel 2 - 5 blocks for a Lettieri's, Timothy's, Starbucks, or Second Cup. Heading into the Eaton Centre is too far and malls close earlier.

The Canadian Music Hall of Fame was an interesting idea that I saw included in one of the renders. Perhaps eventually, this area will get a Sobeys Express or a Longo's. There is no mini grocery around here. Another 5,000 people living within a few blocks should warrant the need.

Go to http://www.metropolis.ca/pdf/metropolisFullFloorplanPkg.pdf and you will see who is leasing and where. FYI, Shoppers Drug Mart will be on Concourse 1.

401_King
August 17th, 2007, 04:38 PM
There is a Timothy's 0.5 blocks from metropolis on dundas west and Tim hortons already exists inside the east side of Metropolis on Victoria street. I think Starbucks will be inside though

Mollywood
August 17th, 2007, 07:26 PM
What happened to the bowling alley? At one time a funky, glow light bowling alley was going to be a part of it. I think Metropolis needs more entertainment venues, if it's going to be a tourist attraction. A movie theatre doesn't cut it. I wanna see more fun activities, something other than just more stores. We already have all the stores we need, in that area and from what I read on Urban Toronto, the torch will soon have 3 new stores in it. All stores with no play could make Yonge St. quite dull.

Taller, Better
August 17th, 2007, 08:43 PM
^^^ Mollywood, did they say which stores?

samsonyuen
August 17th, 2007, 09:01 PM
There is also a Starbucks at Yonge and Shuter that you can access without going into the mall.

The 'Sauga
August 17th, 2007, 11:57 PM
Concourse 1

http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/9813/concourse1yj8.jpg

Level 1

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/189/level1uv5.jpg

Level 2

http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/9749/level2pm6.jpg

Level 3

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/1922/level3mk9.jpg

Level 4

http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/7082/level4pz8.jpg

Level 5

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/8539/level5vp0.jpg

Level 6

http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/7973/level6fa2.jpg

LordMandeep
August 18th, 2007, 04:19 AM
lucky Ryerson students...

They ARE practically are surrounded by stores and restaurants in every direction.

Tuscani01
August 18th, 2007, 04:58 AM
lucky Ryerson students...

They ARE practically are surrounded by stores and restaurants in every direction.

Weren't you coming to Ryerson?

The amount of choices we have on where to eat actually makes things difficult. No one can ever decide where to go.

Mollywood
August 18th, 2007, 06:01 AM
No, it didn't say what the stores in The Torch would be. Too bad it wasn't an Apple store. That would have been better than the Eaton Centre, well, after they changed the cladding and funked it up a bit.

urban 2.0
August 18th, 2007, 06:50 AM
I look at all the tenants - and it makes me feel like this is a big box vaughn mall stacked on top of each other.

We're just missing Costco.

Lets call this place "Little America" - Home of Generisism

Taller, Better
August 18th, 2007, 07:55 AM
^^Wow.. do you ever approve of anything in this city, Urban? It is beyond me why you live here.
Those shops look like pretty regular shopping mall ones to me... and that is precisely what this is.

CrazyCanuck
August 18th, 2007, 07:59 AM
I'm worried about the gaps in between the ads. Hopefully it won't stay grey.

Jaye101
August 18th, 2007, 09:26 AM
It will. Unless some changes were made from the rendering.

bar1967
August 18th, 2007, 03:39 PM
I look at all the tenants - and it makes me feel like this is a big box vaughn mall stacked on top of each other.

We're just missing Costco.

Lets call this place "Little America" - Home of Generisism

And what would you have liked to see in it then?

Mollywood
August 18th, 2007, 05:42 PM
I'd like it to be an entertainment, sports, leisure and tourism centre with things like a video arcade, bowling, pool hall, roller blading, high tech gadget centre, museum, art gallery, wax museum, kinda like Clifton Hill but with a bit more substance. As tacky and flashy as it is on the outside, you'd think it would be a little more exciting on the inside. Younge street already has lots and lots of stores but very little in the way of entertainment and leisure activities. Does it really need more food courts with the same restaurants as the Eaton Centre across the street? Isn't there already a Shoppers Drug Mart in the Eaton Centre? I'm sorry, you can call me a cynical, old bastard but I don't see much in Metropolis to get excited about, other than a movie theatre.

caltrane74
August 18th, 2007, 05:53 PM
I'd like it to be an entertainment, sports, leisure and tourism centre with things like a video arcade, bowling, pool hall, roller blading, high tech gadget centre, museum, art gallery, wax museum, kinda like Clifton Hill but with a bit more substance. As tacky and flashy as it is on the outside, you'd think it would be a little more exciting on the inside. Younge street already has lots and lots of stores but very little in the way of entertainment and leisure activities. Does it really need more food courts with the same restaurants as the Eaton Centre across the street? Isn't there already a Shoppers Drug Mart in the Eaton Centre? I'm sorry, you can call me a cynical, old bastard but I don't see much in Metropolis to get excited about, other than a movie theatre.

all of the above could still end up in the metropolis. The spaces have not been leased out 100%; and you may be surprised.

ScrapeTheSky
August 19th, 2007, 12:32 AM
The lack of leased spaces is something to worry about I'd think. Nothing has changed on those maps of what's leased in the longest time. And yeah, they're fairly typical: Jack Astor's, AMC, Bell World, Future Shop, Starbucks, Subway, Shoppers Drug Mart. Nothing really unique in the mix.

Taller, Better
August 19th, 2007, 01:13 AM
I don't think there is a downtown Jack Astors, is there? I think it is mostly a suburban thing. We go by it coming back from Montreal up in some suburb.

The 'Sauga
August 19th, 2007, 01:35 AM
I don't think there is a downtown Jack Astors, is there? I think it is mostly a suburban thing. We go by it coming back from Montreal up in some suburb.

I believe there's a Jack Astors @ Front and University Ave. It could be a lot worse like those god awful suburban parking lot restaurants that no one goes to like Boston Pizza, or Kelsey's, etc.

I'm interested in the Adidas store however, they have one on Queen Street but this one seems like their flagship downtown Toronto store. I also really wish that Aeropostale would become a tenant in TLS as it is expanding in Canada.

http://www.aeropostale.com/home/index.jsp

Aeropostale is opening (or already is) @ the Dufferin Mall, Fairview Mall, Georgian mall, Guildford Town Centre, MetroTown Centre, Oakville Place mall, Pickering Town Centre, Vaughan Mills, and White Oaks Mall.

ericeric
August 19th, 2007, 02:57 AM
I don't understand why we need so many Shoppers. Didn't another one just open at College and Yonge? Is it the new hip place for the teenkids to hang out these days?

kettal
August 19th, 2007, 07:34 AM
http://www.aeropostale.com/home/index.jsp

Aeropostale is opening (or already is) @ the Dufferin Mall, Fairview Mall, Georgian mall, Guildford Town Centre, MetroTown Centre, Oakville Place mall, Pickering Town Centre, Vaughan Mills, and White Oaks Mall.

It looks like old navy. I'd probably shop there. :angel:

LordMandeep
August 19th, 2007, 07:01 PM
well shoppers is really expanding everywhere, so more people downtown could warrant another shoppers.

metroboi_nay
August 20th, 2007, 05:18 AM
http://www.aeropostale.com/home/index.jsp

Aeropostale is opening (or already is) @ the Dufferin Mall, Fairview Mall, Georgian mall, Guildford Town Centre, MetroTown Centre, Oakville Place mall, Pickering Town Centre, Vaughan Mills, and White Oaks Mall.

I never knew they were in Canada til I just saw your post.. lol... surprised one isn't opening up at Sherway or Eaton Ctr

caltrane74
August 20th, 2007, 03:22 PM
No development news at Metropolis this weekend, eh?

ratoronto
August 20th, 2007, 07:32 PM
any more ads/ video screens up yet?

caltrane74
August 20th, 2007, 07:35 PM
nope.

dtour
August 20th, 2007, 11:44 PM
The Superbad sign is all lit up at night. This area is going to be lit up light a mofo once finished :)

yin_yang
August 21st, 2007, 03:00 PM
I don't understand why we need so many Shoppers. Didn't another one just open at College and Yonge? Is it the new hip place for the teenkids to hang out these days?

increased importance of personal appearance/increased demand for prescription medicine.

401_King
August 21st, 2007, 03:47 PM
shoppers in TO is like the duane reade of NYC, too many!

Taller, Better
August 21st, 2007, 04:06 PM
I remember being so frustrated in Manhattan at how few drug stores there were.
I am wondering if this new Shoppers is going to replace the tired old 24 hours one on Bay Street at LuCliffe Place.

caltrane74
August 22nd, 2007, 03:43 PM
interesting thought. I've never used the lucliff place outlet.


so it could be a possiblity..

caltrane74
August 23rd, 2007, 01:54 AM
Andrew (aka whistler) on Urbantoronto.ca posted this:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1369/1197897229_39e9731522_o.jpg


looks like the superbad ad, was backlit a couple of nights ago.

what do you guys think?

Waterloo_Guy
August 23rd, 2007, 03:20 AM
what do you guys think?

They should have sent a poet.

urban_grace
August 23rd, 2007, 04:29 AM
I don't understand why we need so many Shoppers. Didn't another one just open at College and Yonge? Is it the new hip place for the teenkids to hang out these days?

I saw a comedian on tv a while back (can't remember his name) who was poking fun at the fact Shoppers sells a tonne of products at the front of the store such as chips, candy bars, pop......etc. that ensure that you will inevitably require the products they sell at the back of the store, namely the prescription drugs.

So cynical yet so true! :lol:

isaidso
August 23rd, 2007, 05:24 AM
Now that's a good business plan. Makes you wonder whether junk food companies also own liposuction clinics.

Tuscani01
August 23rd, 2007, 05:25 AM
Andrew (aka whistler) on Urbantoronto.ca posted this:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1369/1197897229_39e9731522_o.jpg


looks like the superbad ad, was backlit a couple of nights ago.

what do you guys think?

It was backlit on Monday night when I was there too.

Taller, Better
August 23rd, 2007, 06:16 AM
I saw a comedian on tv a while back (can't remember his name) who was poking fun at the fact Shoppers sells a tonne of products at the front of the store such as chips, candy bars, pop......etc. that ensure that you will inevitably require the products they sell at the back of the store, namely the prescription drugs.

So cynical yet so true! :lol:

PharmaPlus had an advertising campaign out a year or two ago to convince people not to buy non presription medicines at grocery stores. The one at Church and Wellesley had a big advertisement poster in the window saying "Would you buy your medicine at a place that sold peaches??" right beside a stack of canned fruit!! I wish I had had my camera that day.

yyzer
August 23rd, 2007, 04:31 PM
new pic from the metropolis website....

http://www.metropolis.ca/gallery/images/1187448878.jpg

ggaleazz
August 23rd, 2007, 06:22 PM
new pic from the metropolis website....

http://www.metropolis.ca/gallery/images/1187448878.jpg

Looks fantastic! I love that angle, I think we'll see a lot of panorama's from this vantage point for a long while after the building is complete.

samsonyuen
August 26th, 2007, 04:44 AM
Great view.

The Shoppers at College and Yonge's not new (though the 24-hours is new). It just took over the space that was Baroli's, and connected it to their existing store.

urban_grace
August 26th, 2007, 07:23 PM
Does anyone know if they're planning any renovations/reconstruction of the TTC subway entrace on the northeast corner of Yonge and Dundas? The existing one is ugly and inadequate given the number of people that go through there.......a number that will surely grow once metropolis is up and running.

phunky
August 26th, 2007, 09:54 PM
Metropolis will have it's own link into the subway.

dtour
August 27th, 2007, 02:16 PM
Is that video screen supposed to be small individual panels, cause thats what there installing. I thought it was supposed to be just one huge screen wrapping around the edge.
So far they've installed just the bottom row, maybe above it will be one huge screen. Was the design in the latest rendering?

caltrane74
August 27th, 2007, 03:17 PM
lets see what happens.

The big screen is supposed to be surrounded by smaller screens.

elliot
August 27th, 2007, 10:16 PM
Just post the bloody rendering again Cal... geez... these comments are ....

caltrane74
August 27th, 2007, 11:48 PM
see the smaller screens surrounding the big video screen. Those little screens are what I saw going up yesterday.

no one took any flickin' pictures?

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/1128/exteriorrenderingnorthebx1.jpg

metroboi_nay
August 28th, 2007, 01:27 AM
Looks like the ticker underneath the vid screen is a lame poster ad now (unless they changed it cos it says peneq on it so far.. lol)

urban_grace
August 28th, 2007, 06:28 AM
^^ :master: :master: :master: :master: :master:

ALL HAIL MCDONALD'S!

yin_yang
August 28th, 2007, 08:18 AM
just walked by, they had just the bottom row of small screens set up, but i wasn't sure if they were screens or speakers...anyone who passed by during the daytime for sure see that they were LCD's?

caltrane74
August 28th, 2007, 03:43 PM
here is a picture from SeanTrans at urbantoronto.ca

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/spmarshall/Update/Met3.jpg

401_King
August 28th, 2007, 04:36 PM
look like speakers!

thryve
August 28th, 2007, 05:20 PM
I was standing down there yesterday, and had my camera with me, and I still didn't take any photos. Ahhh.... *idiot*.

That's a good update though.. thanks!!

rick1016
August 28th, 2007, 06:33 PM
Thanks caltrane74!

Mollywood
August 28th, 2007, 09:26 PM
I hope they don't leave that with all the poles and metal parts showing. (on the video board) That's a lot of unnecessary clutter.

caltrane74
August 28th, 2007, 09:37 PM
I think the exposed brackets are part of the industrial "look" or "cache".

Did you forget about the fans already?

samsonyuen
August 29th, 2007, 03:53 AM
Fans aren't in the rendering. Too bad they're there in reality.

Dream Brother
August 29th, 2007, 04:19 AM
Those video screen panels are spaced closer together in the rendering. They look too far apart in reality.

Jaye101
August 29th, 2007, 09:06 AM
Fans aren't in the rendering. Too bad they're there in reality.

Yeah they are.

caltrane74
August 30th, 2007, 03:26 PM
So they put up a portion of the video screen last nite, eh?

caltrane74
August 30th, 2007, 04:45 PM
courtesy of Paul451 on urbantoronto.ca

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd313/paul451/DSC_0723.jpg

Jaborandi
August 30th, 2007, 08:27 PM
I hope they don't leave that with all the poles and metal parts showing. (on the video board) That's a lot of unnecessary clutter.

I thought unnecessary clutter was the look they were ...well ... looking for. I think they have taken a page from the late Queen Mum whose philosophy on dressing appeared to be "when in doubt, add"

Taller, Better
August 30th, 2007, 08:35 PM
I thought unnecessary clutter was the look they were ...well ... looking for. I think they have taken a page from the late Queen Mum whose philosphy on dressing appeared to be "when in doubt, add"


:lol:

Waterloo_Guy
August 30th, 2007, 08:58 PM
Those little screens make no sense. I don't get it.

That Pen Equity sign looks real good. It's like a metaphor for the whole damn thing. I hope they keep it.

urban_grace
August 30th, 2007, 11:14 PM
I can't beleive Pen Equity has the guts to put their ad up considering the fact they are sooooooooooooooooo behind schedule!

Waterloo_Guy
August 31st, 2007, 12:47 AM
Their ad looks like something I'd see on a strip mall.

Mollywood
August 31st, 2007, 03:05 AM
I've seen better ads in strip malls. I would be embarrassed to put up that sign, if I were them, it looks so cheap. They need to hire a graphic designer in that company, that's pathetic.

bar1967
August 31st, 2007, 03:31 PM
The sign is only temporary...

caltrane74
September 2nd, 2007, 12:27 AM
latest picture. voice of reality on urbantoronto.ca

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff271/voiceofreality/ViewFromHardRock.Sept07.jpg

Tuscani01
September 2nd, 2007, 12:47 AM
So the video screen should be installed by time I get back to school on tuesday?

Taller, Better
September 2nd, 2007, 01:21 AM
I'll say.. it is up now. Saw it when I was coming to work. Looks cool...

Jaye101
September 2nd, 2007, 01:26 AM
Was it on?! *Gasps*

Tuscani01
September 2nd, 2007, 01:41 AM
Was it on?! *Gasps*

*Holds Breath*

401_King
September 2nd, 2007, 05:47 AM
goddam, it makes dundas square look a lot bigger

Taller, Better
September 2nd, 2007, 07:40 AM
No... tis still black. Saw it on the way home tonight... looks big and impressive..Visible from all corners...

urban 2.0
September 3rd, 2007, 01:41 AM
No... tis still black. Saw it on the way home tonight... looks big and impressive..Visible from all corners...

... looks finished ... and you can see it from Yonge and Queen.

Jaye101
September 3rd, 2007, 10:20 AM
drum118 @ UT:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1292/1309017340_cf1f3bef77_b.jpg

rick1016
September 3rd, 2007, 10:59 AM
Sweet.

teryaki
September 3rd, 2007, 12:53 PM
It looks awesome and they even changed the movie advertisement. No more superbad.

dtour
September 3rd, 2007, 02:51 PM
Look what i found

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o240/loop429/100_0291.jpg?t=1188823587

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o240/loop429/100_0286.jpg?t=1188823689

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o240/loop429/100_0296.jpg?t=1188823721

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o240/loop429/100_0275.jpg?t=1188823752

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o240/loop429/100_0260.jpg?t=1188823789

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o240/loop429/100_0292.jpg?t=1188823819

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o240/loop429/100_0293.jpg?t=1188824095

401_King
September 3rd, 2007, 04:53 PM
nice! but dundas square looks SOOO dead there!

Taller, Better
September 3rd, 2007, 08:26 PM
LOL! That is one thing that YD square does not have to worry about... being dead. Might be so momentarily at different times of day, but it is one of the most popular meeting spots, if not the most popular in the city.

401_King
September 3rd, 2007, 10:17 PM
come on TB, u know that i know that!

i can't wait till this thing lights up

Taller, Better
September 3rd, 2007, 10:27 PM
I guess Resident Evil 2 was not filmed here?

rick1016
September 4th, 2007, 01:06 AM
^^ actually he's right it kind of does look dead there.

Mollywood
September 4th, 2007, 02:20 AM
What's up with those 2 extra squares of LED on the right side? Was that part of the plan? It seems like there is a uneven gap on the bottom right too. They should of made the screen a bit longer and had just one row of the smaller screens on the right. Who can understand the logic of Pen Equity? lol

Jaborandi
September 4th, 2007, 03:03 AM
^^ actually he's right it kind of does look dead there.

Judging by the lone pedestrian and single automobile at Yonge & Dundas and the fact that no vendors have set up under the tents, it might be just a little too early in the a.m. for the crowds to mosey on down

ONE HUMAN
September 4th, 2007, 03:39 AM
What's up with those 2 extra squares of LED on the right side? Was that part of the plan? It seems like there is a uneven gap on the bottom right too. They should of made the screen a bit longer and had just one row of the smaller screens on the right. Who can understand the logic of Pen Equity? lol

Looking at the photo there is a larger gap at the right end of the horizontal rows. It almost appears to me that when mounting these they weren't spaced correctly and there wasn't enough room to properly squeeze them in, so they just added the extra two off to the right in their own column.

However, this probably isn't the case, as there definitely is more framework on the right hand side. There is clearly room enough for two columns on the right hand side, which I don't really understand. Perhaps there are still some adjustments to be made centering the whole thing. If not, it's a very peculiar setup.

LordMandeep
September 4th, 2007, 04:09 AM
the square only becomes very busy after lunch...

401_King
September 4th, 2007, 07:14 AM
^not really. i bike past there 8am lots, its pretty busy, students, contsructoin workers, rush hour, more students....but those pics are DEAAAAAAAAAD like its sunday night at 4am dead...but its during the day, weird

Jaye101
September 4th, 2007, 09:29 AM
I guess Resident Evil 2 was not filmed here?

Ahh, this is the third! This time it was filmed in Mexico.

Looking at the photo there is a larger gap at the right end of the horizontal rows. It almost appears to me that when mounting these they weren't spaced correctly and there wasn't enough room to properly squeeze them in, so they just added the extra two off to the right in their own column.

However, this probably isn't the case, as there definitely is more framework on the right hand side. There is clearly room enough for two columns on the right hand side, which I don't really understand. Perhaps there are still some adjustments to be made centering the whole thing. If not, it's a very peculiar setup.

There is supposed to be an 2 rows of smaller screens to the right of the main screen.

ONE HUMAN
September 4th, 2007, 04:12 PM
There is supposed to be an 2 rows of smaller screens to the right of the main screen.

Yes, looking at the renderings I see there are supposed to be two columns of screens on the right-hand side. I think it's a peculiar design and it still doesn't account for the larger gap between the last screens in the horizontal rows and those last two columns. It looks odd almost as if a couple of screens are missing or that the spacing wasn't done correctly.

Hopefully it's simply because some adjustments still need to be made. Then again, I thought there was no way Torch was going to be left the way it was during the final phases of construction and look at what we ended up with!

Tuscani01
September 4th, 2007, 05:33 PM
Having walked by Metropolis today to get to class, I have to say... I like it. There is one thing that I noticed that I dont like though. On the Dundas St. side, there seems to be a step in the sidewalk, and then a smaller step right after it. Hopefully it wont stay that way because it makes for an awkward 2 steps. Other than that, the street level is great!

caltrane74
September 4th, 2007, 06:38 PM
I like it too!

can't wait for the additional screens ads, and neon signs to go up.

Taller, Better
September 4th, 2007, 06:55 PM
If it is true that nothing succeeds like excess, then this might just be a winner!

urban_grace
September 4th, 2007, 07:48 PM
I walked by the building today too. As large and imposing the building may be it oddly makes the intersection and square feel bigger. It's coming along real nicely, can't wait to check it out from inside.

ONE HUMAN
September 5th, 2007, 12:46 AM
There's definitely a lot of interest in this project, not to mention the entire intersection. There's no denying that. All you have to do is look at the number of posts in this topic.

It is what it is, but I think a lot of people realize that the outcome of Metropolis (can I call it that?) and Toronto Life Square will define Toronto to a certain extent. It's one of the places in Toronto where both tourists and locals will congregrate, and like the CN Tower, I think in a short time it will be recognized as part of the face of our city.

Taller, Better
September 5th, 2007, 02:24 AM
The second row of small screens on the right were installed today. I can't wait to see the whole thing completed....

urban 2.0
September 5th, 2007, 03:03 AM
^^ actually he's right it kind of does look dead there.

... well the photo looks like it was taken at 7 or 8 in the morning - the sun hasn't even fully risen. No traffic on the street.

CrazyCanuck
September 6th, 2007, 03:08 AM
The screen looks pretty good. Hopefully it is up and running next week when zi start to venture back downtown for school.

Tuscani01
September 7th, 2007, 12:54 AM
The stepped sidewalk i was complaining about in my last post is now gone. The sidewalk on the Dundas street side is currently being poured and the forms for the curb are up.

There are a few doors on the Dundas street side that have a small circular window. I wish they would have used something better. They look pretty bad.

caltrane74
September 8th, 2007, 06:27 PM
Let there be light at Yonge And Dundas
Installation of video billboards nears completion

Karon Liu
National Post


Saturday, September 08, 2007


This weekend, workers will finish erecting one of North America's largest video billboards at Toronto Life Square, the massive commercial project overlooking Yonge-Dundas Square.

The billboard is one of nine totalling more than 20,000 square feet that will wrap around the 10-storey building, fulfilling the original vision of Yonge-Dundas as Toronto's Times Square.

''It's going to be amazing," said city councillor Kyle Rae who helped spearhead the project and the revitalization of Yonge-Dundas Square. ''It's going to be the place to be, where you can hang out and listen to music. It's a European piazza, a gathering of activities.''

John Klissouras, who is overseeing the mounting of the exterior signs as project manager for Provincial Sign Systems, said three billboards are already up, and he expects all nine to be up and working by the end of the year.

The 30-by 53-foot video billboard -- 34 smaller screens surround it, bringing its total size to 43 by 69 feet -- took two months to design, three months to make and another month to install, Mr. Klissouras said. It uses about 347 kilowatts, just 50 kilowatts short of what the Eiffel Tower uses for its nightly light show.

Workers began erecting the screens in early August, with cranes brought in from the company's facility in Ajax.

It's a 12-hour-a-day job for 16 people: eight installers, two crane operators, five paid-duty officers to control traffic and Mr. Klissouras as supervisor.

Mr. Klissouras and his team worked closely with the city and PenEquity, the company responsible for Toronto Life Square, to decide on the size, location and how bright the signs would be. After

years of delays since the project's inception in 1995, the city is looking forward to the finished product.

"We're all disappointed that it's taken 10 years. It's regrettable and it's done some damage in moving forward with other projects," Mr. Rae said.

"Its been a project that's been long-anticipated. It was conceived in the '90s as a catalyst for the rejuvenation of the area, and having an outdoor-oriented centre that will balance out the Eaton Centre and help establish the street itself," said James Robinson, executive director of the Downtown Yonge BIA. "With construction being complete in the next few months, it's a very positive thing for the area."

On the east side of Yonge-Dundas Square, PenEquity's $42-million vacant Torch building, which housed the Olympic Spirit complex before closing in June, 2006, is also expected to find new retail and office tenants soon.

Mr. Robinson believes that once Toronto Life Square is finished, other retailers will be drawn to the Torch building because of the increased number of visitors.

Once this weekend's work is over, crews will turn to the remaining billboards, all of which are backlit and use between 26 and 35 kilowatts.

James Brown of Brown & Storey architects, the husband-and-wife team who designed Yonge-Dundas Square, has had to live with a lot of criticism from people who wanted a park, with trees and grass, not the piazza they designed. Now that Toronto Life Square is nearly done, he said critics may finally get an appreciation of why the city chose his firm's vision for Yonge-Dundas Square.

"We're well aware of what it [Yonge-Dundas Square] will look like, but when you only have three-quarters of it done it's hard to understand," Mr. Brown said. "When you have that building done it'll add intensity to the area. Right now, the Hard Rock Cafe side works nicely with the square so it'll be interesting to see how the other side will look like."

kliu@nationalpost.com

© National Post 2007

Dino Domingo
September 8th, 2007, 06:57 PM
Great article.

Thanks.

rick1016
September 8th, 2007, 07:10 PM
Thanks for posting that. I'm even more exited now!

caltrane74
September 8th, 2007, 07:16 PM
I can't believe how much power the main billboard will use. I thought this was suppose to be an LED Screen?

It's going to be eternal daylight at Yonge and Dundas, when they turn that monster on.

401_King
September 8th, 2007, 11:25 PM
artificial sunlight 24/7/365 lol. bring it on!

its gonna look pretty interesting from the sky

ladyscraper
September 9th, 2007, 03:07 AM
The 30-by 53-foot video billboard --

sounds huge.. anyone know the size of some of the video screens at times square in new york for a general comparison?

thryve
September 9th, 2007, 06:47 PM
^^ Excellent question

Taller, Better
September 9th, 2007, 11:39 PM
Good article, but I wish the media would stop using that term "Toronto's Times Square".

DrT
September 10th, 2007, 03:57 AM
Here are the dimensions for comparison with NYC's Times Square:

Around the corner, the NASDAQ sign, also incorporating LEDs, is a huge video screen eight stories tall, 120' by 90' [36x27m]. It follows the curved form of the Conde Nast Building on the corner of Seventh Avenue and 43rd Street. Created by Saco Smartvision, the sign produces a palette of more than 16.7 million colors and can display live video, text, graphics, and videotape from a multitude of sources. Besides being the largest LED sign in the world, it is an integral part of the NASDAQ presence in Times Square, which consists of a large visitor and exhibition center and a multipurpose TV broadcast facility that incorporates the NASDAQ stock ticker, utilizing corporate logos, being displayed on a video wall consisting of 96 video cubes.

Taller, Better
September 10th, 2007, 04:22 AM
Sometimes Bigger IS Better!!! :D

rick1016
September 10th, 2007, 08:43 AM
Good article, but I wish the media would stop using that term "Toronto's Times Square".

I think the main reason it is referred to that is because Times Square is the closest thing this will resemble. :)

Which, to me, is pretty cool. I understand where your coming from though, you want it to be unique.

Taller, Better
September 10th, 2007, 04:31 PM
Well... my objection is that it is so very different from Times Square. Times Square is not even a square... it is a a busy intersection. You can of have to stand on a median (beside the naked cowboy) to gawk up at everything.

rick1016
September 10th, 2007, 04:34 PM
Oh ok. As ridiculous as this sounds I've never been to New York City.

caltrane74
September 10th, 2007, 05:05 PM
New York is a cool city.

rick1016
September 10th, 2007, 05:30 PM
Any new updates? Pictures?

401_King
September 10th, 2007, 08:20 PM
times square on new years is as good as it gets since the traffic is closed. 1 million ppl!

ladyscraper
September 10th, 2007, 09:46 PM
Here are the dimensions for comparison with NYC's Times Square
Around the corner, the NASDAQ sign, also incorporating LEDs, is a huge video screen eight stories tall, 120' by 90' [36x27m]. .

oh christ.. that's massive! it's funny.. i've visited new york about 50 times and i have never bothered to visit times square. things like times square and now dundas square may be fascinating and impressive but all the ads and crap makes them quite repulsive as well.
watching dundas square come together is like watching a car crash for me. i am disgusted by it but i can't stop looking.

Dream Brother
September 11th, 2007, 12:31 AM
Good article, but I wish the media would stop using that term "Toronto's Times Square".

I know. If anything New York should be calling Times Square America's Toronto Life Square.

Taller, Better
September 11th, 2007, 12:46 AM
^^ Exactly!! :lol:
pix from today:

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j251/dawnd_01/Summer%20Part%20Two/IMGP9054.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j251/dawnd_01/Summer%20Part%20Two/IMGP9057.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j251/dawnd_01/Summer%20Part%20Two/IMGP9059.jpg

monkeyronin
September 11th, 2007, 01:08 AM
I know. If anything New York should be calling Times Square America's Toronto Life Square.

Dundas Square. :)

FTech
September 11th, 2007, 02:53 AM
I want my giant Coke bottle!!!:speech:
(on Metropolis)

CrazyCanuck
September 11th, 2007, 03:25 AM
I saw the screen for the first time today. I was impressed, must have just missed ya Taller.

DrT
September 11th, 2007, 03:27 AM
Video screen looks pretty awsome. Starting to make the whole square come together. Long time in the making for us long suffering forumers.

I wonder if they'll have a "screen lighting" ceremony when they turn it on officially. Good excuse for a drink and some yelling and screaming (aka cheering).

Tuscani01
September 11th, 2007, 05:10 AM
Update on street level:

The sidewalk along Dundas is almost fully complete. The Victoria St. sidewalk is being ripped out and will be re-poured probably in the next week or so.

Taller, Better
September 11th, 2007, 05:45 AM
I want my giant Coke bottle!!!:speech:
(on Metropolis)

There was originally supposed to be one on the first big sign (the one that is now a round LG neon sign). A bottle was supposed to go up the side. They cancelled that one (probably $$) and put that big ugly blow up plastic Labatt
Blue bottle instead and there are a bunch of inexplicable rings on the side. Crappily done.

I saw the screen for the first time today. I was impressed, must have just missed ya Taller.

You probably would have guessed it was me on my bike, snapping pics!

Tuscani01
September 11th, 2007, 05:46 AM
There was originally supposed to be one on the first big sign (the one that is now a round LG neon sign). A bottle was supposed to go up the side. They cancelled that one (probably $$) and put that big ugly blow up plastic Labatt
Blue bottle instead and there are a bunch of inexplicable rings on the side. Crappily done.

The can isn't there any more. They took it down a few months ago.

Taller, Better
September 11th, 2007, 06:03 AM
The useless rings are still there. That Blue "can" was so cheesy. Glad it is gone... I was tempted to buy a B-B gun and deflate the hideous thing.

rick1016
September 11th, 2007, 12:11 PM
The useless rings are still there. That Blue "can" was so cheesy. Glad it is gone... I was tempted to buy a B-B gun and deflate the hideous thing.

Wow I looked back at the pictures and it is. Any idea of what's going to be there next?

Taller, Better
September 11th, 2007, 04:40 PM
Probably nothing. The entire design of that first big sign was so random. A Coca Cola
bottle going up the side would have made sense of it all.

caltrane74
September 11th, 2007, 10:23 PM
The video screen has been turn on for testing. Somebody please grad some pictures.

...Please!!!

Jaye101
September 11th, 2007, 10:28 PM
Hop on that bike Taller!

Tuscani01
September 11th, 2007, 10:46 PM
The video screen has been turn on for testing. Somebody please grad some pictures.

...Please!!!

Figures, the day I don't go to school they start testing it. Ill have my camera down there tomorrow and will take pics if its being tested.

Canadian Chocho
September 12th, 2007, 12:34 AM
This pic (Taller's) is making me think. Would a big advertisment thingy look good on top of Atrium or will it just look ugly?

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j251/dawnd_01/Summer%20Part%20Two/IMGP9057.jpg

caltrane74
September 12th, 2007, 12:56 AM
apparently the HD LED Screen is extremely bright and impactful!!!

I can't wait to see it.........I'm only hearing good things so far.

Me Too
September 12th, 2007, 12:57 AM
Figures, the day I don't go to school they start testing it. Ill have my camera down there tomorrow and will take pics if its being tested.

It's just a changing patchwork test pattern right now. It looks a lot brighter than the screen in the LG media tower though.

caltrane74
September 12th, 2007, 01:01 AM
We need nightime pictures ....please!!!

caltrane74
September 12th, 2007, 01:22 AM
party's on kids!!!

http://www.upside-down.ca/sdphotos/led.jpg

Jaye101
September 12th, 2007, 01:32 AM
WOOT!...

caltrane74
September 12th, 2007, 02:03 AM
More pictures courtesy Voice of Reality on Urbantoronto.ca

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff271/voiceofreality/ViewFromSears.Sept07-1.jpg
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff271/voiceofreality/ViewFromHM.Sept07.jpg
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff271/voiceofreality/TLS.Corner.jpg

Waterloo_Guy
September 12th, 2007, 02:18 AM
Awesome! But I don't think I like the little ones around the perimeter. What does everyone else think?

Tuscani01
September 12th, 2007, 02:41 AM
party's on kids!!!

http://www.upside-down.ca/sdphotos/led.jpg

Pretty dam cool, but how does the spacing between the outer LCD screens not piss off anyone at PenEquity? Every time I see that space it just drives me nuts.

urban_grace
September 12th, 2007, 03:01 AM
^^ i'm sorry but those smaller screens look like an illogical mess :nuts:

caltrane74
September 12th, 2007, 03:05 AM
small screens or no small screens...

I like the attempt to differentiate this video screen from the others at Dundas Square.

_________________________________-

nite time pictures please

DrT
September 12th, 2007, 03:11 AM
Pretty dam cool, but how does the spacing between the outer LCD screens not piss off anyone at PenEquity? Every time I see that space it just drives me nuts.

It's the asymmetry that bugs me (two columns on the right versus one on the left).

FTech
September 12th, 2007, 03:21 AM
Did someone edit the picture or are the screens being tested?

Marcanadian
September 12th, 2007, 03:38 AM
They're being tested.

I don't mind the little sceens, it does add some difference to the square.

401_King
September 12th, 2007, 05:22 AM
i'm neutral on the screens, but i will make my final judgement on that when its all done and finished i guess....other than that, wooooooo , we got a monitor on metropolis!

ONE HUMAN
September 12th, 2007, 05:52 AM
It's the asymmetry that bugs me (two columns on the right versus one on the left).

That and the gap at the right-hand end of the horizontal rows before the two columns. I still find it hard to believe someone would have designed it to look that way. Why? I would love to talk to whomever is responsible.

Taller, Better
September 12th, 2007, 07:16 AM
That and the gap at the right-hand end of the horizontal rows before the two columns. I still find it hard to believe someone would have designed it to look that way. Why? I would love to talk to whomever is responsible.

They would have much to answer for... so much of the design looks wholly arbitrary. Why would one sign be two feet higher than a sign beside it? Makes no sense. A lot of it looks like the designing was winged on the back of a paper napkin and built as closely as possible to that.

dtour
September 13th, 2007, 04:17 AM
Heres a night time pic. Looks light they added a new row of smaller screens:lol: :ohno:
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o240/loop429/100_0330-1.jpg?t=1189650036

Mollywood
September 13th, 2007, 06:18 AM
It's the asymmetry that bugs me (two columns on the right versus one on the left).

It's that weird gap on the right side that bothers me. If they would have spaced the screens a bit tighter, they could have fit in one more screen and it would have looked so much better. Was that awkward gap intentional? If it was, that is messed up.

caltrane74
September 13th, 2007, 03:45 PM
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o240/loop429/100_0330-1.jpg?t=1189650036

nice picture.