If you see it in person, the gap really isn't as bothersome as one might expect ... I love the little screens as well! They had a volkswagen logo that poped in and out of the screens and went all the way around ... it has so much potential I'm glad it wasn't just the large screen by it self.

^^ Yeah, I am going to wait and see it in person. That is a really bad photo.

it was probably from a camera phone.

But it is our first nightime perspective.

Im so happy to see the new ticker installed under the Future Shop sign at the corner of Yonge/Dundas. Maybe thats why the ticker planned under the LCD screen is now a backlit ad.

As for the Future Shop sign, I hope the exposed wires are somewhat hidden. It looks a bit sloppy up close.

photo by paul451 over at UT....

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd313/paul451/DSC_0867.jpg

I wonder how this will affect Best Buy???

I wonder how this will affect Best Buy???

Considering Best Buy owns both, I don't think it will be that much of a problem. I have both a Best Buy and Future Shop by my house in Mississauga (almost across the street from eachother) and both stores are doing fine.

I wonder how this will affect Best Buy???

They are one in the same.

I finally know what the "FS" in sign behind the windo stands for.

geez that took a while.

I finally know what the "FS" in sign behind the windo stands for.

geez that took a while.

It threw me off too, I figured it was for Future Shop but it said FSFS, so I was puzzled kinda, haha :)

This wasn't in the render or the ticker there, seems its changed a bit already. I wonder if the ticker where the peneq sign isn't a ticker anymore, I have a feeling it isn't now...

Someone fill me in b/c I can't figure out the FS sign :(:bash:

Someone fill me in b/c I can't figure out the FS sign :(:bash:
Future Shop

Someone fill me in b/c I can't figure out the FS sign :(:bash:

_uture _hop

There is now a third Future Shop sign up on the Yonge St. side. The sidewalk on Dundas is now partially open and they are still working on the Victoria St. sidewalk.

Plus, there's already a FS almost next door (though an outdated one with no video/audio).

Plus, there's already a FS almost next door (though an outdated one with no video/audio).

Isnt it closing down once the one in TLS opens?

Isnt it closing down once the one in TLS opens?

I was in the store today and on the middle of the stairs going up to the third floor computer department there was a bucket because water was dripping from the ceiling. They can't wait to get out of this building and into the new TLS.

I always hated the Future Shop on Yonge Street. It's just gross. Reminds me of Sam's. And that's not a compliment!

Future Shop has a boring, dated-looking logo. I am surprised they have never bothered to make a new one.

I like their logo, with the >> .

When is it opening?

When does the subway entrance open?

anyone...anyone..

A little off track, was anyone on Yonge today??? It has turned into Harlem, all the fancy Yonge signs have been taken down, and have been given New York looking signs. It goes on for quite a stretch too, from Gerrard past Dundas. The Youth centre is now a centre for Harlem youth and we have an Apollo theatre.

They're filming The Hulk!

They were setting up for hours yesterday and were filming tonight. Hundreds of extras lined the streets, they had a tank, a burnt bus, many New York cabs, some smashed in cars (like the Hulk punched them), it was all very surreal.

A little off track, was anyone on Yonge today??? It has turned into Harlem, all the fancy Yonge signs have been taken down, and have been given New York looking signs. It goes on for quite a stretch too, from Gerrard past Dundas. The Youth centre is now a centre for Harlem youth and we have an Apollo theatre.

Yep. Walked up it to get to class and also noticed all the trucks and trailers parked around campus. I also noticed Gould St. is still playing Gould St. in the movie:) They just made it a green NY sign.

Yep. Walked up it to get to class and also noticed all the trucks and trailers parked around campus. I also noticed Gould St. is still playing Gould St. in the movie:) They just made it a green NY sign.

I was up on Gould on Saturday. They had a New York subway exit at Yonge, but it wasn't completely finished. The panel identifying the station was missing. What exactly did they do with Sam's?

Ok folks! You saw it here first.... the curved sign is up and running! Pics I took while attempting to photograph Incredible Bulk stuff:

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j251/dawnd_01/Summer%20Part%20Two/IMGP9294.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j251/dawnd_01/Summer%20Part%20Two/IMGP9295.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j251/dawnd_01/Summer%20Part%20Two/IMGP9311.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j251/dawnd_01/Summer%20Part%20Two/IMGP9314.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j251/dawnd_01/Summer%20Part%20Two/IMGP9319.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j251/dawnd_01/Summer%20Part%20Two/IMGP9322.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j251/dawnd_01/Summer%20Part%20Two/IMGP9326.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j251/dawnd_01/Summer%20Part%20Two/IMGP9332.jpg

Why?? Because you're worth it!

I was up on Gould on Saturday. They had a New York subway exit at Yonge, but it wasn't completely finished. The panel identifying the station was missing. What exactly did they do with Sam's?

I noticed them changing the ads on Sam's exterior last week. I dont know if it was movie related. The spinning discs on Yonge can still be seen.


Thanks for the pics TB. Its looking great, but those gaps still piss me off:@

They're filming The Hulk!

They were setting up for hours yesterday and were filming tonight. Hundreds of extras lined the streets, they had a tank, a burnt bus, many New York cabs, some smashed in cars (like the Hulk punched them), it was all very surreal.

I accidently walked into that parking lot today and was surrounded by burnt out cars, lol. That's when I started to notice I was not in T.O. anymore.

Taller: Is that screen lookin good or what. I finally saw it on today but it was just a crazy checker board pattern on it.

more pix to come

AWSOME! HAHA! The screen's on bitches!

Nice screen!! I like the little screen surrounding the big one!
But I find that the Future Shop logo sucks... Hopefully there will be many other ones soon! It's still too empty!

good catch TB keep em comin

the screen is better than i expected , anyone else get this impression?

Holy fuck! Thanks TB!!!!

Looking real good!!!!

amazing stuff!

So im at school right now, the screen is still on. Looks like it will be on from now on.

I noticed the NY subway entrance on Gould St. Today. Its covered by a tarp. Ill try taking a pic on my way home.

Damn I was down at the Eaton Centre yesterday and I saw all the film trucks lining Victoria. They also renamed Yonge at Gould 'Dr Martin Luther King Blvd' I wondered to myself what they were filming. Too bad I didn't take the time to check it out. They also did some filming at Pearson airport I believe

I noticed them changing the ads on Sam's exterior last week. I dont know if it was movie related. The spinning discs on Yonge can still be seen.


Thanks for the pics TB. Its looking great, but those gaps still piss me off:@

The first impression I got with the small screens surrounding the larger one was that I was looking at a piece of film! I don't know if that was the effect they were going for or if they serve any other purpose, but they aren't that bad. I don't really notice them (as I'm thinking it's film) when the screen's activated.

thanks TB, great pics

Thanks for those shots!

It looks great, I love the little screens surrounding the large one. I'm still a little worried about the spacing, but overall it looks pretty good.

As promised:
Here we have the new 125th street TTC entrance at Dr. Martin Luther King blvd. and Gould St.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/canadian_gino87/Summerhill059.jpg

Every major City in the US has a street named after MLK

As promised:
Here we have the new 125th street TTC entrance at Dr. Martin Luther King blvd. and Gould St.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/canadian_gino87/Summerhill059.jpg

How long before we get an ACTUAL subway exit at that location? Unless it's the lighting aren't the B and D lines supposed to orange?

How long before we get an ACTUAL subway exit at that location? Unless it's the lighting aren't the B and D lines supposed to orange?

Well if they keep the prop there, all we need is a hole and some stairs!

jk... the prop looks incredibly cheap up close as does every other prop on the site. Its funny how you cant notice it in pictures or movies... but in person, you can tell they are fake. There is a red information pillar right behind the subway entrance that looks poorly made too. (Just behind the tarp on the left side of the pic i took)

Unless it's the lighting aren't the B and D lines supposed to be orange?

yep, they are. and the picture's lighting looks perfect so it's a mistake. the 1, 2, 3 & 9 lines are red i believe.

http://wvs.topleftpixel.com/07/09/17/

here are lots of pictures of the hulk movie set including the very funny shot of the apollo theatre in front of the CIBC building.

Does anyone know, is it allowed to post photographs from the set of the movie? I assume it is, as they are in the public domain. The other night a set worker did his best to shield all of us from taking photos, with an umbrella. We were standing on the north side of the railings. Any lawyers out there?

LOL da BIG SLICE will be in the hulk movie lol

Does anyone know, is it allowed to post photographs from the set of the movie? I assume it is, as they are in the public domain. The other night a set worker did his best to shield all of us from taking photos, with an umbrella. We were standing on the north side of the railings. Any lawyers out there?

T,B, you're the new official SSC paparazzo!

I would figure that if you are standing in a public place you can shoot what you can!

^^ I would think it is legal too....but I was wondering if anyone knew for sure

Apparently Google has leased the old Olympic Torch building across from Toronto Life Square. Got this tidbit from UT member 3Dementia.

Apparently Google has leased the old Olympic Torch building across from Toronto Life Square. Got this tidbit from UT member 3Dementia.

Ahh!! Very interesting! I was wondering that question two nights ago. This is an exceptionally crap photo, but I suppose soon we will be seeing Googlish things on these billboards:

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j251/dawnd_01/Summer%20Part%20Two/IMGP9330.jpg

This news is old, but found it on the net.

August 12, 2006
Google eyes bigger Canadian office

Google Inc. wants to create a mid-sized research and development office in Canada with as many as 200 staff.

“We’re looking to grow aggressively. We think there’s a real opportunity for a Southern Ontario R&D centre,” Shona Brown, the company’s senior vice-president of business operations, said in an interview in Toronto.

The foundations of that office are already in place, following the acquisition last summer of Reqwireless Inc., a startup in Waterloo, Ont., that makes Internet browser and e-mail software for wireless devices.

Google’s website now advertises for just two positions in Waterloo, but Ms. Brown said the company is actually hiring across the board, from directors to fresh engineering graduates.

“We would like to grow a fairly sizable R&D centre there,” ranging between 100 and 200 people, she said. The company is also adding sales and marketing staff in Toronto. Google doesn’t disclose its local headcount, but in Canada it is still small. In Toronto, it doesn’t have its own offices, but rents executive space downtown. Worldwide, the eight-year-old company has about 6,000 employees.


http://blame.ca/?p=89

^^ That is extremely interesting, and I am happy to hear new jobs will be created there!

^^ I would think it is legal too....but I was wondering if anyone knew for sure

There were some crew members watching me take the picture. I think they were protecting the props... they didnt stop me.

Heres a pic of the sidewalk on Dundas taken this afternoon. Its nice and wide!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/canadian_gino87/Toronto013.jpg

The ticker is now functional.

pics? updates!?!

The backside is getting prepped for a billboard(behind the big screen).

I've only started looking at this thread in the last couple months. I thought this particular development was called "metropolis". What's with this "Toronto Life Square"?

Toronto Life (the rag) bought the rights to the naming of the building. Hence
Toronto Lite Square.

^^ LOL i must be really slow.


I didn't even find out about GO's new fare system(as of Oct '06) til this past spring :O

http://www.gotransit.com/publicroot/fares/fndfare.aspx

^^ LOL i must be really slow.


It's all starting to make sense now. If only you had realized this sooner. :D

It's all starting to make sense now. If only you had realized this sooner. :D

You aren't a sock puppet, by any chance? Created to bash me?

Don't let some corporate naming rights deal tell you what to call it. Skydome is Skydome, the Royal York is the Royal York, and Metropolis is Metropolis. Toronto Life Square? Please, I don't think so!

I will and always will call Skydome, Skydome. Never Rogers Centre or whatever they call it now.
Btw, anyone take any shots of it with the ticker on? lol

I can never remember the Rogers thing, and everyone knows Skydome, so I use that! LOL! Doubt if I will ever call it Toronto Life Building, but then I doubt if I would have called it Metropolis, either.... Dundas Square kind of encapsulates the whole corner.

You aren't a sock puppet, by any chance? Created to bash me?

You make it so easy. Just keep talking (posting).

You make it so easy. Just keep talking (posting).

I knew it! :lol:

No sign yet.

...still waiting.

I knew it! :lol:

At least we can laugh about it, right? And isn't that the important thing? :lol:

Sidewalks are now open right up to the building along Yonge and Dundas! (except a small portion on the east side of Dundas)

found these

http://youtube.com/watch?v=IWFl1JJycaM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=sNMzeO4rdEU

The screens work well with each other, but why the non-symmetrical aspect?

Nice vids

Update from today. It looks like they're getting ready for another ad above the 30 days of night poster.

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/6084/img3428cp2.jpg

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/3684/img3429ot6.jpg

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/7039/img3430bn8.jpg

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/9550/img3431uy1.jpg

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/6656/img3432ng3.jpg

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/8371/img3433gi2.jpg

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/6008/img3434yt9.jpg

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/9531/img3435zl1.jpg

Thanks for all these updates man!!!!

Nice pix :) Hopefully some ads will come soon, it looks so empty now it's almost finished! And these little screens definitly look great!

The video screen is really cool, i like it :) Glad to see they change the ads often so far 3 ads have been in the backlit one in the past few months alone.

Nice pix :) Hopefully some ads will come soon, it looks so empty now it's almost finished! And these little screens definitly look great!

The huge section above the screen and the movie poster will be one giant trivision.

What is a trivision?

What is a trivision?

Basically a billboard which is made up of strips. Each strip has 3 sides. When the strips rotate, a new ad is shown. I think the Eaton Centre media tower has some trivision ads.

So does the media tower at the Atriumn on Bay.

Basically a billboard which is made up of strips. Each strip has 3 sides. When the strips rotate, a new ad is shown. I think the Eaton Centre media tower has some trivision ads.

That is what I suspected... wish it had been a MASSIVE tv screen, but thank God it is not a back lit plastic box.

Loreal or Futureshop trivision here we go.

The ad on the North side is massive.

Is it fully up? If so let's get some pix people! :)
I might be downtown this weekend, if I am I will take some

Is it fully up? If so let's get some pix people! :)
I might be downtown this weekend, if I am I will take some

From Paul451 on UT:

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd313/paul451/DSC_1228.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd313/paul451/DSC_1231.jpg

Today as I was leaving school I noticed that half of it had gone up already.

Awesome!!

Thanks for the updated pic :) Looks big

Thanks for the updated pic :) Looks big

Size queen!

Size queen!

If only you knew :lol:

Is it fully up?

Looks big

Awesome!!

:lol:

walked past it this morning and no progess since the last update.

From VoiceofReality at UT. That sign is definitely huge.

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff271/voiceofreality/YongeStFromLevis.jpg

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff271/voiceofreality/YongeStSouth.jpg

wow, that completely changes that view/angle of yonge and dundas!


but seriously, ANOTHER futureshop sign! lol

Seems like UT is the place to go for updates on TLS.

A new rendering of what the completed TLS will look like... Warning... This might make you sick...

Before:

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/1128/exteriorrenderingnorthebx1.jpg

Now:

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/1319/tlsbigrv7.jpg

^ damn, it says "TORONTO LIFE SQUARE" twice on it! this is really gonna confuse ppl concerning the dundas square/ TLS name debate

Was it designed by a blind man? There is little or no cohesion, or design sense. Put together in a mish mash with the result looking like a dog's breakfast of signs.

Was it designed by a blind man? There is little or no cohesion, or design sense. Put together in a mish mash with the result looking like a dog's breakfast of signs.

Agreed. So much for my hope that it would turn out alright. I dont even know what can save this building anymore. This maybe?

http://i23.tinypic.com/72axec.jpg

It completely lacks balance and proportion. It's plain awful. The embellishments and correlation of all the elements to one another is critical in a project like this. Simply slapping on billboards till the facade is covered doesn't cut it.

The first render may be more vulgar and busy, but that is the nature of this type of structure. It is supposed to be commercialism taken to excess. They should go back to the first render. It works.

I can't believe they removed the cornice along the top... at least it kind of pulled it all together at the top in a single line. Looks like they are trying to save a few bucks.

I really hope it doesn't turn out this way. It looks cluttered and unimaginative. The building looked playful before.

Well, at least they got rid of some exposed grey sections. But in the process they totally lost any sense of flow.

What a disaster. It looks all over the place.

They took the crown away! This went from king to joker!

wow toronto is fucked

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff271/voiceofreality/YongeStSouth.jpg

What are they going to do with the back of TLS? I hope they don't leave it completely blank.

As for the redesign, I don't think it's as bad as most of you are making out. A lot of the spots that were uncovered in the original rendering, will be covered. Plus, I'm not sure if the original concept would have looked as good in reality. It looked kinda cartoonish.

^^ That is true... especially at night, all the eye will see are the bright signs. The average viewer wouldn't see a difference to have a cornice or not...
it is the overwhelming effect that will be obvious.

^^ :lol: isn't TORONTO LIFE a free magazine? Our times square sponsered by a free magazine-thats great:lol: :lol:

Nay... believe it or not they charge for it! They have a good restaurant listing.
Frank magazine (my heros) called it Toronto Lite. :lol:

it is the overwhelming effect that will be obvious.

i agree

Agreed. So much for my hope that it would turn out alright. I dont even know what can save this building anymore. This maybe?

http://i23.tinypic.com/72axec.jpg

.. in defense of the revised rendering - its the perspective of the older drawing that makes it look more sophisticated than it really is.

I think the new rendering is close to the previous one - they clearly choose that perspective as to make it look less like a wall of ads.

What's missing is some flare at the top of the structure - some building elements that will add some pizzaz to the building.

^^ :lol: isn't TORONTO LIFE a free magazine? Our times square sponsered by a free magazine-thats great:lol: :lol:

Hmmm isn't Toronto Life trying to "rename" a public square?

Think Toronto Life Square is in reference to the building - at Yonge and Dundas square - so they shouldn't have the right to name the building that - right?

Think Coke Cola Square, Wal-Mart Square.

Toronto Life should also be paying the city for some money - how long before people start calling Yonge and Dundas - Toronto Life Square.

.... the commercialization of public space continues...

Hmmm isn't Toronto Life trying to "rename" a public square?

Think Toronto Life Square is in reference to the building - at Yonge and Dundas square - so they shouldn't have the right to name the building that - right?

Think Coke Cola Square, Wal-Mart Square.

Toronto Life should also be paying the city for some money - how long before people start calling Yonge and Dundas - Toronto Life Square.

.... the commercialization of public space continues...

Maybe the city can buy some ad space on Toronto Life Square to promote Yonge-Dundas Square.

How confusing would that be for visitors, lol!

Anyone know why the current giant video screen has all those little boxes of screens as a border? Do you think they did it because they think it looks cool, or because it's cheaper than one really big video screen? It seems like when they are airing most things, the little boxes act as if they were actually part of the big screen (sort of like windows into a bigger screen behind it) instead of doing anything funky... makes the whole thing just look incredibly weird.

I'm actually in denial about that rendering.

Hmmm isn't Toronto Life trying to "rename" a public square?

Think Toronto Life Square is in reference to the building - at Yonge and Dundas square - so they shouldn't have the right to name the building that - right?

Think Coke Cola Square, Wal-Mart Square.

Toronto Life should also be paying the city for some money - how long before people start calling Yonge and Dundas - Toronto Life Square.

.... the commercialization of public space continues...



I doubt very much if anyone will confuse the two, and start calling Yonge Dundas "Toronto Life Square". I've not heard a soul do so.

I doubt very much if anyone will confuse the two, and start calling Yonge Dundas "Toronto Life Square". I've not heard a soul do so.

I'm actually thinking the exact opposite. The only reason why no one has mixed them up thus far is because the only people that know that that building will be called Toronto Life Square is us on this site. Once the signs go up, I can see Dundas square going extinct.

.. in defense of the revised rendering - its the perspective of the older drawing that makes it look more sophisticated than it really is.

I think the new rendering is close to the previous one - they clearly choose that perspective as to make it look less like a wall of ads.

What's missing is some flare at the top of the structure - some building elements that will add some pizzaz to the building.

Yes i was just going to say that. The ads are nearly in the same locations, all that is missing is the coke and McD's symbols at the top. The newer design also has more windows on the front. But other than that its very close.

As originally stated by Tuscani01 when he posted those pics, its just a "rendering" ... lets be patient and not over-react yet, hopefully it will all turn out well

Nay... believe it or not they charge for it! They have a good restaurant listing.
Frank magazine (my heros) called it Toronto Lite. :lol:

cool:lol:

I must say I despise the latest rendering... the first one rivaled Times Square:ohno:

after all these years i'm just excited to finally have "something" there. but in the end, that's all it really is, isn't it? something. but not much of anything. it's truly unfortunate. this should have been a major, world-class development with a tower stretching high into the sky. penequity really did a crappy, cheap-out job - on both this and the ex-torch building. my fave structures are still the buildings on the south side of the square. the one with the white facade is spectacular looking to this day.

The city should be the only entity able to name something "square."

But tell that to "Square One"! (which I visited once, and found to be very square). In any case rest assured I shall boycott the use of the name of that puerile rag and insist on calling it Yonge and Dundas for the rest of my born days. Call me old fashioned.

I'll say this, the building will evolve over time. Look at the Atrium on Bay...it started out rather bland, but now it's not so bad, and is almost as ad filled as Metropolis. ( maybe more)

Last I check the Atrium on Bay has 2 video screens, Metropolis will only have 1 video screen; and the Atrium on Bay was never designed to be an ad filled building. It just evolved into what it is due to its location at the heart of Yonge and Dundas.

hopefully we see it evolve to dundas east !

Man, this "Toronto Life Square" is bullcrap! :mad2:

But tell that to "Square One"! (which I visited once, and found to be very square). In any case rest assured I shall boycott the use of the name of that puerile rag and insist on calling it Yonge and Dundas for the rest of my born days. Call me old fashioned.

and Lawrence Square.

I, for one, will not be calling Dundas Square, "Toronto Life Square", I can guarantee you that.

Now that they have come out with this latest update render, I am concerned that those big, ugly, boxy things (what are those called anyway?) will be quite noticeable on the roof. Pen Equity did that on Torch. Right above where the restaurant was, you have these big, green mechanical things that should never be exposed on a building because they are so ugly and very easy to hide. It was supposed to be hidden by the large signs, but as always, Pen Equity cheaped out.
The original rendering had a decorative roof element, which would have blocked the nasty things from view but good old Pen Equity has done it again. Now we have the new artists rendering, which just shows the tips of them but the reality is, that they stick right up, very visible from Dundas Square and also the Yonge st. side. It's bad enough that they used that shanty-town siding all over this thing but to remove the roof element and have those nasty vents showing is pushing it too far. I say, stop Pen Equity now before Toronto looks like one big third world shanty-town. (exaggeration, YES but Pen Equity has done enough damage in this town) SHEESH, I'm pissed!

I must say I despise the latest rendering... the first one rivaled Times Square:ohno:

It was no where near Times Square. But it looked way better than the latest rendering.

I, for one, will not be calling Dundas Square, "Toronto Life Square", I can guarantee you that.

Now that they have come out with this latest update render, I am concerned that those big, ugly, boxy things (what are those called anyway?) will be quite noticeable on the roof. Pen Equity did that on Torch. Right above where the restaurant was, you have these big, green mechanical things that should never be exposed on a building because they are so ugly and very easy to hide. It was supposed to be hidden by the large signs, but as always, Pen Equity cheaped out.
The original rendering had a decorative roof element, which would have blocked the nasty things from view but good old Pen Equity has done it again. Now we have the new artists rendering, which just shows the tips of them but the reality is, that they stick right up, very visible from Dundas Square and also the Yonge st. side. It's bad enough that they used that shanty-town siding all over this thing but to remove the roof element and have those nasty vents showing is pushing it too far. I say, stop Pen Equity now before Toronto looks like one big third world shanty-town. (exaggeration, YES but Pen Equity has done enough damage in this town) SHEESH, I'm pissed!

Calm down and stop being in denial. You know you love it.

Oh yes, we will all love it. Faced with a construction site for almost 10 years, Pen Equity could have thrown up a mud hut, and we would've still gone nuts for it.

It's like sex, the longer you wait the better it is. (even if it really sux, you'll still be glad to get some action)

which reminds me.....

Don't poke your eye out with that thing, dude.

Wow... this had so much potential. They need another giant screen on this building in order to salvage the design from all the revisions that have been made.

I don't think the loss of the unifying cornice is going to be that big of an effect when it is completed. From a standpoint of pure design, it is a dog's breakfast. From the standpoint of reality, it is going to look like most of the rest of the signage in the square that has been completed. Few spectators looking up will see anything but a bunch of flashing lights and signs; they will do the same thing they do now, and that is stand with their mouths open a bit and gawk.

They are going to see 2 ugly mechanical boxes sticking right out of the top. In such a prominent place, that's unacceptable. Most buildings now cover them up. Without the roof elements, I think it's pretty nasty. Look at the Torch, you can't help but see them so prominent on top. It makes the building look unfinished. There should be a citywide regulation on all new buildings, no visible clutter on roofs.

They are going to see 2 ugly mechanical boxes sticking right out of the top. In such a prominent place, that's unacceptable. Most buildings now cover them up. Without the roof elements, I think it's pretty nasty. Look at the Torch, you can't help but see them so prominent on top. It makes the building look unfinished. There should be a citywide regulation on all new buildings, no visible clutter on roofs.

You are probably right.... I can't see them in the new rendering, but I am sure they are there. To me the sad part of it is that it is a lost opportunity for them to use the cornice at the top to not only unify, but it could have been some pretty spectacular bad-ass massive neon lettering. It does kind of look like someone is going through with a red pencil and seeing where they can cut costs and maximize profit.

You are probably right.... I can't see them in the new rendering, but I am sure they are there. To me the sad part of it is that it is a lost opportunity for them to use the cornice at the top to not only unify, but it could have been some pretty spectacular bad-ass massive neon lettering. It does kind of look like someone is going through with a red pencil and seeing where they can cut costs and maximize profit.

Neon is dead in Toronto.

Sez who? The huge circular LG electronics side across the road is entirely neon.

Hi All.
New member of SSC here from Dallas, TX.
First off, I LOVE Toronto. Been there twice last year when Toronto Life Square was still under construction.

Reading the posts, I can see the general consensus is that this project is a disappointment.

I am not an architect and certainly not an expert about architectural design in any way shape or form, but I actually REALLY LOVE the project, and so will the thousands of non-architecture-types that will walk through the square everyday! C'mon, it's not THAT bad is it?

I can only hope something like this will happen in downtown Dallas, but I will probably have to wait well into the 27th century for that to happen....

I agree with Roger72075, the new render isnt really that bad, it might be a bit more simple than the original, but it shows more class, and not just a ton of adds overlapping on a wall. Just in my opinion, the original was nice, just a bit messy and mixed up. The new render, however, has everything organized.

Hi All.
New member of SSC here from Dallas, TX.
First off, I LOVE Toronto. Been there twice last year when Toronto Life Square was still under construction.

Reading the posts, I can see the general consensus is that this project is a disappointment.

I am not an architect and certainly not an expert about architectural design in any way shape or form, but I actually REALLY LOVE the project, and so will the thousands of non-architecture-types that will walk through the square everyday! C'mon, it's not THAT bad is it?

I can only hope something like this will happen in downtown Dallas, but I will probably have to wait well into the 27th century for that to happen....



I think people are being too quick to judge this structure. Once all the signage is up - then we can really assess it's success.

Remember this building will evolve over time, improvements will be made. But it's a great start - sure beats the Harvey's and the Flee Market.

It was no where near Times Square. But it looked way better than the latest rendering.

Times square is shite imo.

Times square is shite imo.

Have you been there? The atmosphere is incredible. It's just a total wow effect. Dundas Square is no where near that. And the huge towers surrounding the area make it that much more amazing.

Times Sq is really cool, I love it. It does get boring tho after you've gone for the past 7 years in a row tho (I have friends in the city, so I got a reason to go.. lol) Dundas Sq won't be like that, but why would we want to? It's best to have our own type of sq.

There's other examples too, like Trafalgar Sq in London and the one in Tokyo. They're unique and that's how it should be, not a copy. They are similar cos ads are in place but the area ain't. I would hate to see Trafalgar Sq like Times Sq, it would look hideous for the surrounding.

In terms of "Metropolis", atleast its not an empty hole and something is there. It's true with time it'll develop like the Atrium ;)

Have you been there? The atmosphere is incredible. It's just a total wow effect. Dundas Square is no where near that. And the huge towers surrounding the area make it that much more amazing.

... Times Square is just one big traffic island.

I think YD will in time be a much more people friendly dynamic place vs. Times Square.

Have you been there? The atmosphere is incredible. It's just a total wow effect. Dundas Square is no where near that. And the huge towers surrounding the area make it that much more amazing.

Have you been there? It isn't even a square, it is a busy traffic intersection. It is just big signage very much like what is at YD square.

It's true, Times Sq isn't a social place to hang, just venture thru the crowd of people and cars around you.. lol.

I know YD Sq is a concreate slab with a few trees/fountains but you can actually sit outside and relax for a while if you wanted to. Good luck doing that in Times Sq.. lol..

It's true, Times Sq isn't a social place to hang, just venture thru the crowd of people and cars around you.. lol.

I know YD Sq is a concreate slab with a few trees/fountains but you can actually sit outside and relax for a while if you wanted to. Good luck doing that in Times Sq.. lol..

That might change soon from what I've read. Times Square is building huge glass steps for the public to sit and relax on. It's part of the new discount tickets booth opening soon.

Where are they going to build them? It is all busy streets/sidewalks and medians.
It is not exactly a people-friendly corner of town.

Hi All.
Reading the posts, I can see the general consensus is that this project is a disappointment.

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Hey Roger, welcome... people here in Toronto are exceedingly hard to please! LOL! I think it has something to do with everyone having higher standards than everyone else. Glad you enjoyed your stay here! :cheers:

Have you been there? It isn't even a square, it is a busy traffic intersection. It is just big signage very much like what is at YD square.

The signage is far superior to that in Dundas Square. Video screens galore. Billboards the size of homes. The architecture that surrounds the area too and the height of the buildings. It's incredible. Dundas Square is only better for it's openess and less congestion.

Where are they going to build them? It is all busy streets/sidewalks and medians.
It is not exactly a people-friendly corner of town.



Hey Roger, welcome... people here in Toronto are exceedingly hard to please! LOL! I think it has something to do with everyone having higher standards than everyone else. Glad you enjoyed your stay here! :cheers:

No, we're just tired of half assed projects.

I'll leave you be, Dream Bother, or you will go on and on forever.

Night!

That might change soon from what I've read. Times Square is building huge glass steps for the public to sit and relax on. It's part of the new discount tickets booth opening soon.

That would be nice to see :) I do recall them doing work on it the last two years i've been there, hopefully its not filled with people waiting in line for tix. I know it use to be crazy before.

Mollywood is referring to this:
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/3633/tktsnewuc9.jpg


Which was formerly this:
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/5093/tktsbg8.jpg


New TKTS Now on Track for Fall

When the stalwart seventies-era TKTS booth in Father Duffy Square — it's not Times Square, mind you, but the square just north of it — came down a year ago, we were promised a new version, complete with a shiny red staircase as a roof, a public space to rival Rome's Spanish Steps, in time for last New Year's Eve. No dice. What happened? An ownership change at the manufacturer originally slated to provide glass for that new hull derailed things, architect Nick Leahy of Perkins Eastman tells us. But the team is finalizing its choice for a new supplier, Leahy says, and expects the goods by late summer. "It was a hiccup that we managed," Leahy says. "The ticket booth is in place and the geothermal heating [underground] is in place, and I would expect installation by early fall." Which means it'll be ready for next New Year's or whatever autumn events — the World Series on the Jumbotron, the Macy's parade, impeachment hearings — you might be looking forward to. —Alec Appelbaum

First image and story were obtained from here: http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2007/04/new_tkts_now_on_track_for_fall.html

Mollywood is referring to this:
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/3633/tktsnewuc9.jpg


Which was formerly this:
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/5093/tktsbg8.jpg


New TKTS Now on Track for Fall

When the stalwart seventies-era TKTS booth in Father Duffy Square — it's not Times Square, mind you, but the square just north of it — came down a year ago, we were promised a new version, complete with a shiny red staircase as a roof, a public space to rival Rome's Spanish Steps, in time for last New Year's Eve. No dice. What happened? An ownership change at the manufacturer originally slated to provide glass for that new hull derailed things, architect Nick Leahy of Perkins Eastman tells us. But the team is finalizing its choice for a new supplier, Leahy says, and expects the goods by late summer. "It was a hiccup that we managed," Leahy says. "The ticket booth is in place and the geothermal heating [underground] is in place, and I would expect installation by early fall." Which means it'll be ready for next New Year's or whatever autumn events — the World Series on the Jumbotron, the Macy's parade, impeachment hearings — you might be looking forward to. —Alec Appelbaum

First image and story were obtained from here: http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2007/04/new_tkts_now_on_track_for_fall.html

Yep, that's it. I read about it in the New York Times a few days ago and it sounds really cool. Bigger than the Spanish Steps in Rome? That's big, so I guess it will be filled with wide-eyed tourists. Tourism is NYC is going gangbusters. (unlike Toronto)

No, we're just tired of half assed projects.

Taller, you have to admit, the boy does have a point.:lol: We can be happy with second or third rate buildings but if we can do better and have better, why not do it? Is there some unwritten rule that only NYC or Chicago should strive for greatness? I think it's about time Toronto and Torontonians demand more of their politicians, city planners, architects and everyone in general who has an effect on this city and all our lives. :ohno:

You think that football stadium seating with plexiglass edging shown above is greater than the Spanish Steps? Let me get this straight.. that red platform is "First Rate", and what we have is "Third Rate".

In my opinion the High Rise and Low Rise development sections are being turned into a whinge-fest about how third rate Toronto is.

Mollywood is referring to this:
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/3633/tktsnewuc9.jpg


Which was formerly this:
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/5093/tktsbg8.jpg


New TKTS Now on Track for Fall

When the stalwart seventies-era TKTS booth in Father Duffy Square — it's not Times Square, mind you, but the square just north of it — came down a year ago, we were promised a new version, complete with a shiny red staircase as a roof, a public space to rival Rome's Spanish Steps, in time for last New Year's Eve. No dice. What happened? An ownership change at the manufacturer originally slated to provide glass for that new hull derailed things, architect Nick Leahy of Perkins Eastman tells us. But the team is finalizing its choice for a new supplier, Leahy says, and expects the goods by late summer. "It was a hiccup that we managed," Leahy says. "The ticket booth is in place and the geothermal heating [underground] is in place, and I would expect installation by early fall." Which means it'll be ready for next New Year's or whatever autumn events — the World Series on the Jumbotron, the Macy's parade, impeachment hearings — you might be looking forward to. —Alec Appelbaum

First image and story were obtained from here: http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2007/04/new_tkts_now_on_track_for_fall.html

Excuse my language but, what the fuck is that?

Excuse my language but, what the fuck is that?

it's finally something ugly enough to divert attention away from the toronto life square problems.

Mollywood is referring to this:
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/3633/tktsnewuc9.jpg


Which was formerly this:
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/5093/tktsbg8.jpg


New TKTS Now on Track for Fall

When the stalwart seventies-era TKTS booth in Father Duffy Square — it's not Times Square, mind you, but the square just north of it — came down a year ago, we were promised a new version, complete with a shiny red staircase as a roof, a public space to rival Rome's Spanish Steps, in time for last New Year's Eve. No dice. What happened? An ownership change at the manufacturer originally slated to provide glass for that new hull derailed things, architect Nick Leahy of Perkins Eastman tells us. But the team is finalizing its choice for a new supplier, Leahy says, and expects the goods by late summer. "It was a hiccup that we managed," Leahy says. "The ticket booth is in place and the geothermal heating [underground] is in place, and I would expect installation by early fall." Which means it'll be ready for next New Year's or whatever autumn events — the World Series on the Jumbotron, the Macy's parade, impeachment hearings — you might be looking forward to. —Alec Appelbaum

First image and story were obtained from here: http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2007/04/new_tkts_now_on_track_for_fall.html


Wow, this made me like Y&D square even more.

This is a good idea an it's an innovative use of the space, but you know it will be packed with tourists and crazies.

Taller, you have to admit, the boy does have a point.:lol: We can be happy with second or third rate buildings but if we can do better and have better, why not do it? Is there some unwritten rule that only NYC or Chicago should strive for greatness? I think it's about time Toronto and Torontonians demand more of their politicians, city planners, architects and everyone in general who has an effect on this city and all our lives. :ohno:

Exactly. I've never been to Chicago but New York City is mind boggling. Total architecture arousal.

Wow that's so bad it's disgusting...

You think that football stadium seating with plexiglass edging shown above is greater than the Spanish Steps? Let me get this straight.. that red platform is "First Rate", and what we have is "Third Rate".

In my opinion the High Rise and Low Rise development sections are being turned into a whinge-fest about how third rate Toronto is.

No, I wasn't refering to the steps. lol It's hard to tell what they will look like from that rendering. I was talking generally about Toronto.

Mollywood is referring to this:
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/3633/tktsnewuc9.jpg


First image and story were obtained from here: http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2007/04/new_tkts_now_on_track_for_fall.html



So I give it 2 years before it's shut down due to lawsuits (people 'falling on the unkept winter steps')

What if its heated steps? They better be! lol ;)

The signage is far superior to that in Dundas Square. Video screens galore. Billboards the size of homes. The architecture that surrounds the area too and the height of the buildings. It's incredible. Dundas Square is only better for it's openess and less congestion.


Rome wasn't built in a day. The signage will improve with time.

As spectacular as Times Square is, it's not as comfortable to be in as Dundas Square.- You can't take in the sights without someone trying to walk right over you.

What if its heated steps? They better be! lol ;)

"People falling on the slippery steps"

What if its heated steps? They better be! lol ;)

... environmentalists would protest and sue.

Dundas Square is only better for it's openess and less congestion.


So, the fact that Dundas Square is an actual square, with things going on all the time for people to get involved with, where Times Square is not, is just a minor detail to you when evaluating squares?


Interesting.




KGB

What if its heated steps? They better be! lol ;)

Best to leave them unheated... more people falling down them in the winter when they are icy.
That would be the only interesting thing about this little slice of BMO stadium plopped down in Times
Square.

I think it's about time Toronto and Torontonians demand more of their politicians, city planners, architects and everyone in general who has an effect on this city and all our lives.


My experience has been that the ones who are the most vocal about being 3rd rate and striving for greatness, are infact, the same rubes who are actually standing in the way of it.

Irony...the only true evidence that their may be a god....and man, does he have a cruel sense of humour.




KGB

so true man.Well said:applause:

ignore.

It was no where near Times Square. But it looked way better than the latest rendering.

my point. Why can't Toronto ever get anything reasonable?:nuts:

ignore.

:applause:

:applause:

????

^^ Wait, what were you referring to?

Everyone got the clap by now? Hmm?

Everyone got the clap by now? Hmm?

I hope not, it's not a fun STD I heard :lol:

And now...back to Toronto Life Square.

The supports for the tri-vision are up... or at least some of them. I couldn't get a good enough look walking under it.

The supports for the tri-vision are up... or at least some of them. I couldn't get a good enough look walking under it.

... maybe wait a few weeks before you walk under them ... who know's how good the engineering or mounts are for a little while.

I guess the Big Screen will be going up next Sunday? ... do a sense a road closure (I'll get the Star on the story)

I actually quite like the whole Toronto Life Square and Dundas square thing. When it first came about, I had some doubts, but it's really blossomed into something great. It would be even cooler though if they retrofitted some of the surrounding buildings with building sized video screens like the buildings in Shanghai, but then again those only look good from far away :x

couple of pics from today, courtesy of Andrew3D over at UT....

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2031/1582661276_e588fb6f7a_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2396/1582661282_423bd69a37_b.jpg

Man, did they ever mess up that video screen.

I dunno. So far so good, I think.

Thx for the pix :)

Nice pic. Needs more ads to add more colour.

Man, did they ever mess up that video screen.

You wouldn't be happy unless you had something to complain about. You seem like more of a Nightmare Brother to me, but I'm only basing that on the fact that all I ever read from you is negativity. Cheer up.

Man, did they ever mess up that video screen.

Really I think you need to move to Quebec City, it has great nitelife; so I've heard. Maybe it'll perk you up.

At worse you'll get some tang.

You wouldn't be happy unless you had something to complain about. You seem like more of a Nightmare Brother to me, but I'm only basing that on the fact that all I ever read from you is negativity. Cheer up.

Don't be so emophobic, the boy needs to vent, so let him get it all out. :ohno: I don't want some emo going postal all over our ass. :lol:

Is there 98 pages on this thread or what? because I seem to be stuck on the 97th and every time I click to go to 98 it redirects me back where I came from.

Don't be so emophobic, the boy needs to vent, so let him get it all out. :ohno: I don't want some emo going postal all over our ass. :lol:

Most of my comments are made in jest. And believe me I'm the antithesis of emo. Emo people don't complain they whine and slit their wrists and have brutal fashion sense. I wear plaid and yetti fur long johns.

You wouldn't be happy unless you had something to complain about. You seem like more of a Nightmare Brother to me, but I'm only basing that on the fact that all I ever read from you is negativity. Cheer up.

Dream Brother is a Jeff Buckley song. Not a reference to me. You should check it out.

Is there 98 pages on this thread or what? because I seem to be stuck on the 97th and every time I click to go to 98 it redirects me back where I came from.

It's happening to me too, weird, lol

Dream Brother is a Jeff Buckley song. Not a reference to me. You should check it out.

I know, but I prefer his cover of Hallelujah.

I'm more of a fan of Pete Yorn, Joshua Radin, Cary Brothers, and Joseph Arthur, to name a few.

Wow, this is sad. Don't any of you know what emo is?

In related news, the building opens November 16, 2007 according to, http://www.pcl.com/projects/Active/0900342/index.aspx

"(as of Oct. 15/07):

The building is now closed in and finishes are in progress. Early occupancy is scheduled for for November 16, 2007. The AMC theaters are on schedule."

check out this link:

http://www.urbandb.com/canada/ontario/toronto/metropolis.pdf

then check out this one:

http://penequity.com/Docs/Metropolis%20Pkg.pdf

where the hell did the canadian music hall of fame go!? and when did it go!?

anyone know anything about this? could they be the new tenant for torch!?

check out this link:

http://www.urbandb.com/canada/ontario/toronto/metropolis.pdf

then check out this one:

http://penequity.com/Docs/Metropolis%20Pkg.pdf

where the hell did the canadian music hall of fame go!? and when did it go!?

anyone know anything about this? could they be the new tenant for torch!?

Its been gone for a while now. Months, going on years now.

I know, but I prefer his cover of Hallelujah.

I'm more of a fan of Pete Yorn, Joshua Radin, Cary Brothers, and Joseph Arthur, to name a few.

Hallelujah is beautiful but no where near his best work. All those others you mentioned are just typical folkies. Buckley was the most eclectic musician i've ever heard. Pete Yorn and Joseph Arthur are huge Buckley fans but I don't know about the others.

I bet you any money McDonalds is going in at 314 on Level 3 ;)

It's a shame Tim Hortons didn't get a front style entrance to this building, it would've been nice than to go around the side where the nice homeless man holds the door for you.

Hallelujah is beautiful but no where near his best work. All those others you mentioned are just typical folkies. Buckley was the most eclectic musician i've ever heard. Pete Yorn and Joseph Arthur are huge Buckley fans but I don't know about the others.

In your opinion. Because you say it, doesn't make it so, other than in your own mind. That's called being subjective and opinionated, and not necessarily correct.

You're one of those people that acts as if you know everything and that your opinion is the only one that matters. You exhibit this day in and day out on this forum. You would do well to take a step back and realize at your young age you don't have everything figured out and there is room for an open mind and some objectivity.

Its been gone for a while now. Months, going on years now.

not that blogto is a supremely credible source (http://www.blogto.com/city/2007/04/dundas_square_meet_toronto_life_square/), but as late as April 2007, that's 6 months ago, people were still under the assumption that the hall of fame was going to open up here.

what happened? does anyone know? and is the torch building a possibility?

Once you propose to change the venue of the Canadian Music Hall of Fame you have to open up the bidding process again, that's what I've heard.

A few years ago Toronto won the Hall of Fame bid but nothing materialized so the bidding process was opened and Toronto won again. Once again nothing materialized.

Once you propose to change the venue of the Canadian Music Hall of Fame you have to open up the bidding process again, that's what I've heard.

A few years ago Toronto won the Hall of Fame bid but nothing materialized so the bidding process was opened and Toronto won again. Once again nothing materialized.


... maybe they should hire PenEquity to find and build them a venue - you know to speed up the process.

I still think they should use the silos for this project.

not that blogto is a supremely credible source (http://www.blogto.com/city/2007/04/dundas_square_meet_toronto_life_square/), but as late as April 2007, that's 6 months ago, people were still under the assumption that the hall of fame was going to open up here.

what happened? does anyone know? and is the torch building a possibility?
My understanding is they are looking at getting space in the L Tower.

Metropolis is a way better location for this museum, but I suppose it is good to spread attractions throughout the core.

I was at Y-D last night. That video screen is briiiight! Makes it feel like daytime :O

That Ryerson bldg at Bay is very nice looking, design-wise at least. Personally I would've liked it better if it was taller. Otherwise, it's great. I don't understand why it gets bashed all the time. Maybe it's the parking lot across the street that makes it look unfinished :dunno:

Just for the record, Dream Brother is an excellent song. Tied with Lover, You Should've Come Over as favourite song on the album (for totally different reasons).

Just for the record, Dream Brother is an excellent song. Tied with Lover, You Should've Come Over as favourite song on the album (for totally different reasons).

As is Spoonman. Jeff and Chris Cornell were good friends while he was alive. He and his band opened up for Soundgarden in '94.

In your opinion. Because you say it, doesn't make it so, other than in your own mind. That's called being subjective and opinionated, and not necessarily correct.

You're one of those people that acts as if you know everything and that your opinion is the only one that matters. You exhibit this day in and day out on this forum. You would do well to take a step back and realize at your young age you don't have everything figured out and there is room for an open mind and some objectivity.

How do you know my age? I am very open to other opinions when it comes to music. I just don't think anyone can compare to Jeff Buckley. He's the one artist that had something extra special. I just find people like Yorn and Arthur to be one dimensional, musically and vocally. Jeff was a jazz crooner, a bluesman, a rocker, a soul singer, he even sang Qawwali music in Urdu. Nobody does stuff like that. Check out his other work, aside from Grace if you haven't. But I'll leave it at that. Ben Harper said it best. "Never have I seen such infinite ability in any artist. And it's all just gone. It's chilling."

How do you know my age? I am very open to other opinions when it comes to music. I just don't think anyone can compare to Jeff Buckley. He's the one artist that had something extra special. I just find people like Yorn and Arthur to be one dimensional, musically and vocally. Jeff was a jazz crooner, a bluesman, a rocker, a soul singer, he even sang Qawwali music in Urdu. Nobody does stuff like that. Check out his other work, aside from Grace if you haven't. But I'll leave it at that. Ben Harper said it best. "Never have I seen such infinite ability in any artist. And it's all just gone. It's chilling."

that is a really great quote. ben is not too bad himself...every time i go to a show my jaw drops. with my own two hands > war is always incredible, and his groove is always tight. so much emotion in his singing. dope dope dope!

That Ryerson bldg at Bay is very nice looking, design-wise at least. Personally I would've liked it better if it was taller.

I do recall reading that the building is design for vertical expansion which I agree would improve the overall aesthetics. The ground level currently overpowers the main facade of randomize panels above.

I do recall reading that the building is design for vertical expansion which I agree would improve the overall aesthetics. The ground level currently overpowers the main facade of randomize panels above.

Yep... and they should have built it to its full height considering there is a need for space at Ryerson.

Yep... and they should have built it to its full height considering there is a need for space at Ryerson.

... hey remember that was to be the site of the Raptors stadium.

How do you know my age? I am very open to other opinions when it comes to music. I just don't think anyone can compare to Jeff Buckley. He's the one artist that had something extra special. I just find people like Yorn and Arthur to be one dimensional, musically and vocally. Jeff was a jazz crooner, a bluesman, a rocker, a soul singer, he even sang Qawwali music in Urdu. Nobody does stuff like that. Check out his other work, aside from Grace if you haven't. But I'll leave it at that. Ben Harper said it best. "Never have I seen such infinite ability in any artist. And it's all just gone. It's chilling."

I'm so tired of arguing about subjective things like music and architecture with know-it-all kids. Because you like something or say it's great doesn't necessarily make it better than something else. And if you're not a kid, then what's your excuse?

Whether an artist/musician is multi-dimensional or extra special doesn't matter to me. What matters is how it sounds coming out of my speakers or in my headphones, and your opinion -- believe it or not -- simply isn't a factor. Thanks for coming out though.

Who the hell is Jeff Buckley and why is he being brought up in this thread anyway?

Who the hell is Jeff Buckley and why is he being brought up in this thread anyway?

the guy with the cough syrup ... geeeeez, lol

here's a nice pano i found on flickr

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1088/1415621669_766843695e_b.jpg

Nice pic, wow! I hope to see one of these next summer when the building is done and filled with ads. I know most of us think its ugly, but a finished product is what were all looking forward to. Atleast something is done. lol :)

Anybody else thing this building should have been painted black?

Just to let everyone know, ted rogers just purchased the old spirit building and is planing to have city tv and omni move in.

Inside source from rogers told me.:cheers:

^^ AMAZING news.... there is a news release on the main Toronto page.

Does your inside source read the Toronto Star? lol

It would've been better black I agree, but the surronding buildings are grey and that wouldn't blend well. As well the concrete at YD Sq. The pano above gives you an idea.

And we all know about CityTV moving, it was posted yesterday online ;)
This should help out the sq. I hope they change O.S, it's hideous.

Does anyone know when the theater will open?

The giant remote for the Emirates advertisement has gone up. Its on the south-east corner of Atrium and looks like crap. It doesn't even look like a remote.

Does anyone know when the theater will open?

Next summer/fall, it'll be ready for next yrs classes for Ryerson ;)

Anybody else thing this building should have been painted black?

I know Mick Jagger does.

I know Mick Jagger does.

Good one!


Nice to see you out of the brig.

Good one!


Nice to see you out of the brig.

Thanks. I did my time and feel refreshed. I'll be less crass but still loopy as always.

Because of the anonymity, everyone is a bit rough around the edges when they first start these types of forums... but most learn after awhile to soften the edges a bit and can still get their message across! These places become kind of "families" and are not so anonymous after you get used to them! ;)

I remember my first few months. I was labeled as a TROLL! But I JUST turned 15 when I had joined!

Good to see you here again, Jaye. Thought you'd vanished into thin air....

Emirates Airlines' "billboard" advertising their Dubai -Toronto service and the 600 channels of entertainment onboard their planes is on the Atrium on Bay building.

I was in Future Shop today, asking the employees about when the new Future Shop was going to open and I was told around Nov. 15th, so it's not much longer.

I remember my first few months. I was labeled as a TROLL! But I JUST turned 15 when I had joined!

You're not even Norwegian.

any progress, anyone? pics?

from the metropolis website....also, the north-facing sign (on Yonge) is now illuminated.....

http://www.metropolis.ca/gallery/images/1193510829.jpg

looking good for now.

does anyone else realize how awkward that awning is right at the corner of yonge and dundas?

looking good for now.

does anyone else realize how awkward that awning is right at the corner of yonge and dundas?

Not as awkward as the building behind it.

It's good to see the ads are going up.... thanks for the pic :)

looking good for now.

does anyone else realize how awkward that awning is right at the corner of yonge and dundas?

That whole canopy is redundant.

That whole canopy is redundant.


Why...is there one already there?




KGB

He likely doesn't know the meaning of the word....
lol:ohno:

As much as I want to hate that video screen, I kinda like it.

That whole canopy is redundant.
repugnant?

Why...is there one already there?




KGB

Unnecessary is more accurate.