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RafflesCity
April 18th, 2003, 10:52 PM
One Astor Plaza
New York, USA

HEIGHT: 227m/744 feet
FLOORS: 54 floors
COMPLETION: 1972
ARCHITECT: Kahn & Jacobs

was built in 1968-1969 in Times Square, replacing Hotel Astor (Clinton & Russell, 1904), which was closed in 1967.
The development initiated the Special Theater District Zoning Amendment, introduced to lessen the detrimental effect of office tower construction to the traditionally entertainment-orientated Times Square area. In effect from Sixth to Seventh Ave. and 40th to 57th St., it offered bonuses for inclusion of theaters to the new office buildings in order to keep the area vital also in the evenings. In case of the 1 Astor Plaza, the 20 per cent increase in space resulted in a 130,100 m² building.
The 54-storey office tower is set back 41 meters from the Broadway side building line, rising behind a base of glass and concrete housing the theater and retail spaces.
The tower's curtain wall of glass is flanked by protruding corner "piers" of glass and limestone, doubling as mechanical equipment shafts. The top of the building at 222.5 m has a limestone "cap" with eccentric crownlike spikes at the roof corners, making the building easily recognisable on the skyline and an early break from the Internationalist rationale. Originally also known as the W.T. Grant Building, in the early years the text logo "Grants" was perched on the face of the top crown.
The office tower main entrance is from the Broadway side corners, with escalators leading to the second-floor lobby and elevators of the office tower. A through-building arcade leading from 44th Street to 45th doubles as an entrance to the building's Broadway theater.
The large Minskoff Theater, named after the building's developers, was designed by Scutt and has a 1,621 seat capacity. The theater lobby, accessible by escalators from the arcade, occupies the upper portion of the glass walled space facing Broadway, along with two cantilevered balconies. There is also a below-grade, 1,500-seat cinema underneath the retail spaces.
The building proved to be structurally demanding as the Minskoff Theater's stage and technical tower was housed underneath the Broadway side of the office building, necessitating the use of massive trusses to redirect the loads around the theater stage.
On the backside of the building is the old theatrical throughway of Shubert Alley, in the original designs planned to be covered as a glazed galleria, in vein of the ex-AT&T Building.

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/rotpics02/1astor.jpeg

http://img51.photobucket.com/albums/v156/AtlanticaC5/1AP.jpg

http://www.wirednewyork.com/times_square/images/times_square_esb_observatory_23march02.jpg

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/rotpics02/1astorbase.jpeg

Wu-Gambino
April 19th, 2003, 02:15 AM
5.5/10

Pretty boring, but I love that thing on the top!

Evergrey
April 19th, 2003, 02:46 AM
2.5 What is that thing on the top?

BGT
April 19th, 2003, 06:33 AM
6/10

SteelCity32
April 19th, 2003, 07:08 AM
weird top. But it's boxy

5/10

Bobdreamz
April 19th, 2003, 08:03 AM
boy some of you are being harsh!...isn't this where Viacom has it's headquarters and MTV it's studios?...I've been inside this building to see a movie once....it really stands out in the midtown skyline when viewing it from the Jersey side...I actually like the top at least they did something to make it different than your average box....7.5/10

Muse
April 20th, 2003, 09:37 AM
Always looks out of place - in pics and real life.

...and that late 60s/early 70s attempt at a featured roof :ohno:

...but not evil.

lol @ the last pic with that whacky 'n zany Conde Nast Building giving it a kick up the rear!

A "kind" 6

RafflesCity
April 20th, 2003, 05:59 PM
6/10

The white blades on top fail to redeem the black mass beneath.

airsickpenthousedweller
April 20th, 2003, 06:06 PM
Typical seventies building.
I like the solution for the top that the vertical elements provide. Much better than the (often) far-fetched, anecdotic roofdesigns on many buildings from a later period.

renell
April 20th, 2003, 06:07 PM
6.5 those things in the top kept it from being a simple box

Chad
April 22nd, 2003, 01:42 PM
definitely needs to be recladed....and absolutely not a masterpiece.......5/10

The Messiah
April 28th, 2003, 02:21 AM
This tower wants to be intresting....
5.5/10

Jase Calvin
April 28th, 2003, 09:46 PM
I think the top part is the only good thing about it. 5.5/10.

TropicalSQ744
May 10th, 2003, 06:53 PM
They tried to make us tink that is isnt just a box but failed.. terribly.. The top looks horrible! Good thing the cool blue glass amkes up for it! :)

7/10

huaiwei
May 28th, 2003, 01:32 PM
5/10...not inspiring..not revolting..

james2390
August 11th, 2003, 08:04 PM
interesting one, 7.5

AtlanticaC5
August 21st, 2003, 07:50 PM
It isn't beautiful, but it's quite tall. 7/10

il fenomeno
August 28th, 2003, 10:06 PM
strange box 4/10

SUNNI
August 29th, 2003, 11:14 AM
i like it..do u?
8/10

Patrick
September 10th, 2003, 04:02 PM
facade: dark, nice
form: boxy
specials: cool top!
points: 8

Liz L
September 10th, 2003, 09:58 PM
7.5/10 - Nice, shiny facade, which provides a good contrast for the stone mullions and the roof. The knife-edged blades on the roof make it livlier than a plain flat top, and the indentations running up the side are another good touch.

It's still a bit boxy, though...

Fabio
November 8th, 2003, 07:26 PM
4.5/10


I don't like it

SeeMacau
November 21st, 2003, 08:31 AM
The top is great !!

Nice black facade

8.5/10

Falcaonet
November 21st, 2003, 08:08 PM
6.5/10 i don't really like the top, but it's a discrete tall building

peterthegreat
November 24th, 2003, 06:38 AM
ugly... 4/10

7 World Trade
April 23rd, 2004, 06:24 AM
the facade is ho-hum, but the crown totally saved this one

7

DamienK
September 11th, 2004, 09:19 PM
The pinwheel spiky top is interesting, but the rest of the tower is boring. 6.5/10

therock
September 12th, 2004, 06:41 PM
7.5/10

Imperial
September 12th, 2004, 06:49 PM
7/10

SChristopher
October 22nd, 2004, 04:38 AM
Awful. 1/10

Monkey
October 31st, 2004, 10:20 PM
Rubbish.

4/10

Sitol447
October 31st, 2004, 11:44 PM
7/10 - Not bad

Winus
November 2nd, 2004, 10:03 PM
6/10

empersouf
November 7th, 2004, 05:22 PM
Nice building, but I hate the top and you can see the top on almost every NYC pic. grrrr.
8.0

andysimo123
November 22nd, 2004, 03:55 PM
6/10

TYW
February 1st, 2005, 08:49 AM
the top doesn't go well with the building. worse, is it's windows

6/10

Þróndeimr
February 18th, 2005, 12:14 PM
6.5/10

Medo
March 7th, 2005, 07:24 AM
3/10 quite hideous

MattSal
March 20th, 2005, 06:37 AM
A nice building, though the facade could be better. The crown kicks ass. I give it an 8.5/10. :yes:

Sonic from Padova
March 26th, 2005, 01:41 PM
6!

long foot
March 29th, 2005, 10:39 AM
Nothing special
5

Latoso
May 30th, 2005, 11:40 AM
8/10

Jules
May 30th, 2005, 08:59 PM
5.

Phobos
June 1st, 2005, 03:00 AM
8/10

The top's design is nice and tha facade seems good too.

Reflex
June 4th, 2005, 01:42 AM
7.5/10.

ROYAL BLUE
July 7th, 2005, 02:34 AM
9/10

CborG
July 13th, 2005, 01:25 PM
7/10

SoboleuS
August 10th, 2005, 03:53 PM
I like the top. The rest of the building looks OK. 7,5/10

El_Greco
August 16th, 2005, 02:33 AM
7/10

Trances
August 28th, 2005, 11:26 AM
nice clean facade but very boxy
not even sure i like the top rendered

1984 D.F.
September 3rd, 2005, 08:32 AM
simply but nice 9.5/10

United-States-of-America
September 5th, 2005, 02:11 AM
7/10. Pretty nice design.

Camaway
September 23rd, 2005, 11:27 AM
Never really liked it aside for the top 5.5

Dancer
September 30th, 2005, 07:02 PM
Its not bad for a glass box and a cool little thing on top. 7.5

SGoico
October 12th, 2005, 08:58 PM
3,5 I feel generous today

TowersNYC
October 22nd, 2005, 03:43 PM
A 10 ...and this tower actually looks better NOW, than it did in 1972... imagine HUGE red letters a top the crown with the words "GRANT"S DEPT STORE " !!!!! true!

clarky
October 22nd, 2005, 05:47 PM
7.5/10

Accura4Matalan
October 22nd, 2005, 06:35 PM
5.5/10

www.sercan.de
October 27th, 2005, 12:31 PM
5,5/10

۩SkyScraper۩
October 30th, 2005, 08:21 AM
i dont like this one 5/10

Skylandman
November 1st, 2005, 02:08 PM
5/10

Pengui
November 15th, 2005, 11:07 AM
Too boxy, tried to get some attention with some ugly concrete thingies at the top, failed. A proof that glassy cladding on boxes can also be very ugly.
2.

ChiLooper
November 17th, 2005, 12:15 AM
6/10

ROYU
December 9th, 2005, 05:30 AM
Nice glass box 7.5

forvine
December 9th, 2005, 08:55 PM
6/10

Sinjin P.
December 10th, 2005, 11:43 AM
8/10 here

anakin
January 3rd, 2006, 11:38 AM
5/10

mr_storms
January 4th, 2006, 04:45 AM
uniqe top but thats about it
6.5/10

Scruffy88
January 9th, 2006, 08:18 AM
When I was 8 years old this was my favorite building because of the crown. Now a days it still has nostaglia factor. its cool in person. Its bid but the crown rains down to street level on all 4 sides breaking up the mass. I know im totally biased here.

8.5/10

FROM LOS ANGELES
January 13th, 2006, 03:26 AM
It's just a box with an ordament at the top. 6/10

jimm
January 18th, 2006, 11:35 AM
6/10

warnings
February 5th, 2006, 02:01 AM
8.5/10 i like it :)

marpa
April 16th, 2006, 02:30 AM
3/10

Skyman
May 5th, 2006, 05:55 PM
7/10

ggmm
May 5th, 2006, 06:16 PM
It's massive, but so 70's.. should have its windows replaced. 4.5/10

ZZ-II
June 14th, 2006, 08:15 PM
8.5/10

virarch
July 5th, 2006, 07:58 AM
6.5/10

gutooo
July 16th, 2006, 09:07 PM
7.5/10

Woko
August 18th, 2006, 08:29 AM
it's a 70's building, and i don't like every 70's buildings. This one makes destroyed the times square's skyline.

Pelha
August 19th, 2006, 05:59 AM
Huge and amazing...9.5/10

Mosaic
August 24th, 2006, 09:30 AM
8/10

Cabman
August 31st, 2006, 04:28 PM
good in it's day looks like a good effort 7/10

delmaule
September 4th, 2006, 04:34 AM
8.5/10

skipperBill
September 10th, 2006, 11:20 PM
7/10.

Dreamlıneя
October 14th, 2006, 02:36 AM
5/10

kirby21
October 15th, 2006, 02:08 AM
5 / 10

_zner_
November 8th, 2006, 05:06 AM
7. :ohno:

Chinky Orz
November 16th, 2006, 01:31 AM
4.5/10 top ruins it all

weirdo
November 26th, 2006, 03:00 PM
yeah. the top kinda made everything else look a little better. just a little. 7.5/10

HT
November 26th, 2006, 05:47 PM
ugly : (

hoangduong
December 1st, 2006, 07:01 AM
... 6/10

nygirl
December 1st, 2006, 07:05 AM
I loathe and love this building at the same time. It really is a monster but it is a farmiliar site on the Hudson River Skyline.

W!CKED
April 14th, 2007, 04:12 PM
7/10

Ralphkke
May 11th, 2007, 07:56 PM
Nah the roof sucks. 5 out of 10.

cong san muon nam
June 15th, 2007, 03:59 AM
7.5/10

Aliya
June 24th, 2007, 06:38 PM
8/10

Henk
June 25th, 2007, 03:42 PM
4/10.

LMCA1990
August 30th, 2007, 08:14 PM
7/10

newyorkrunaway1
September 25th, 2007, 10:03 AM
7/10

Astralis
September 26th, 2007, 02:45 PM
8.5/10

MasonicStage™
September 26th, 2007, 04:56 PM
6,5/10

RON-E
September 29th, 2007, 08:43 AM
6/10

SkyLerm
September 30th, 2007, 11:18 PM
When you see it from bottom is quite impressive... 7/10

Slodi
October 1st, 2007, 04:41 AM
boring 5/10

Sound.
October 7th, 2007, 07:58 PM
5.5

Rodrigo U.
October 18th, 2007, 12:05 AM
4.5/10

il fenomeno
October 28th, 2007, 03:46 PM
somehow interesting. 6/10

DragonAnime
November 23rd, 2007, 07:48 PM
Fits into Times Square well.8/10

kon133
December 9th, 2007, 12:39 AM
7,5/10

krzewi
January 8th, 2008, 12:07 AM
8/10

IMPRESARIO
January 20th, 2008, 04:29 PM
glassy, nice name.

FloridaFuture
January 20th, 2008, 10:16 PM
It's not an exceptional tower but it suits its surroundings near perfectly
7/10

Halabalooza
February 24th, 2008, 11:20 AM
6.5 nothing special

roen
March 14th, 2008, 03:09 PM
7/10

davee08
March 23rd, 2008, 03:11 AM
5/10

LAYZIEDOGG
March 23rd, 2008, 03:30 AM
6/10

GOR@N
April 12th, 2008, 05:32 PM
8/10

Nikkodemo
May 25th, 2008, 05:40 AM
7/10

meds
June 3rd, 2008, 12:31 AM
4.5/10

Fundador
June 12th, 2008, 08:07 AM
8/10:)

henry hill
September 18th, 2008, 11:28 PM
7/10

briker
October 5th, 2008, 04:04 PM
6/

Kawasaki KG
October 19th, 2008, 11:42 AM
8/10

Rutger1991
October 19th, 2008, 03:09 PM
7/10

Malbo
October 22nd, 2008, 06:34 PM
6/10

Imperfect Ending
January 24th, 2009, 11:38 PM
7/10

Nice crown

poshbakerloo
February 10th, 2009, 10:56 PM
3/10 good proportions...but the rest is VILE!

Eric Offereins
February 28th, 2009, 12:52 AM
6/10 :)

Squiggles
April 3rd, 2009, 09:00 PM
6.5/10

I've seen far worse boxes. The roof piece is not too bad, but the building itself doesn't fit its location.

DinamiT
April 3rd, 2009, 10:20 PM
7.5/10... not more..

tonyssa
April 26th, 2009, 04:49 PM
7/10

skyperu34
May 16th, 2009, 06:28 AM
Nice...

7.0/10

HK999
July 19th, 2009, 02:52 PM
don't like the top. 7/10.

Jan Del Castillo
July 30th, 2009, 06:25 PM
8. Good building. Regards.

deranged
August 14th, 2009, 02:32 PM
7/10

xavarreiro
October 18th, 2009, 07:50 PM
7/10

desertpunk
November 20th, 2009, 04:43 AM
Leon Uris's masterpiece. Which is to say, it's really bad. 5

Heroico
November 23rd, 2009, 07:52 PM
One Astor Plaza
New York, USA

HEIGHT: 227m/744 feet
FLOORS: 54 floors
COMPLETION: 1972
ARCHITECT: Kahn & Jacobs
http://mywebpage.netscape.com/rotpics02/1astor.jpeg

http://img51.photobucket.com/albums/v156/AtlanticaC5/1AP.jpg

http://www.wirednewyork.com/times_square/images/times_square_esb_observatory_23march02.jpg

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/rotpics02/1astorbase.jpeg

8/10

sieradzanin1
January 1st, 2010, 07:24 PM
8/10

New York Morning
January 6th, 2010, 09:58 PM
5.5

c6josh
March 8th, 2010, 11:15 AM
voted 9/10

national guard
April 27th, 2010, 03:03 AM
9.5/10

ikops
July 10th, 2010, 09:14 PM
7/10

motozine
August 19th, 2010, 09:41 AM
7/10

romanito
August 24th, 2010, 09:42 PM
8/10

Heidjer
August 28th, 2010, 02:43 PM
Got quite an Asian look. 4.5/10

ChitownCity
September 2nd, 2010, 06:48 PM
4.5/10 that shyt on top is just ugly

ethan153
October 29th, 2010, 10:31 AM
7.5

OldBoy137
October 29th, 2010, 07:40 PM
6.5/10

Geocarlos
February 6th, 2011, 11:40 PM
8.5/10

http://img51.photobucket.com/albums/v156/AtlanticaC5/1AP.jpg

v-sun
February 11th, 2011, 02:29 PM
7/10

MonsterPug
February 27th, 2011, 05:42 AM
8/10

mossimoh
May 2nd, 2011, 12:45 AM
7/10

keroro91
May 2nd, 2011, 04:42 PM
8/10

konik93
May 11th, 2011, 07:05 PM
6.5/10 for materials

yudibali2008
May 20th, 2011, 01:10 PM
6.5/10

cyberprince
September 13th, 2011, 12:10 AM
8/10

mecanico242
September 17th, 2011, 05:59 AM
8/10

xJamaax
November 5th, 2011, 10:27 PM
Just a regular tower,6/10

tim1807
November 11th, 2011, 03:51 PM
6,5/10

luis fernando
November 14th, 2011, 01:12 AM
8/10

lophophora
November 19th, 2011, 10:58 PM
7/10

Mike____
November 20th, 2011, 02:51 PM
9/10

Dakaro
December 29th, 2011, 02:37 PM
9/10