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RafflesCity April 18th, 2003, 10:52 PM One Astor Plaza
New York, USA
HEIGHT: 227m/744 feet
FLOORS: 54 floors
COMPLETION: 1972
ARCHITECT: Kahn & Jacobs
was built in 1968-1969 in Times Square, replacing Hotel Astor (Clinton & Russell, 1904), which was closed in 1967.
The development initiated the Special Theater District Zoning Amendment, introduced to lessen the detrimental effect of office tower construction to the traditionally entertainment-orientated Times Square area. In effect from Sixth to Seventh Ave. and 40th to 57th St., it offered bonuses for inclusion of theaters to the new office buildings in order to keep the area vital also in the evenings. In case of the 1 Astor Plaza, the 20 per cent increase in space resulted in a 130,100 m² building.
The 54-storey office tower is set back 41 meters from the Broadway side building line, rising behind a base of glass and concrete housing the theater and retail spaces.
The tower's curtain wall of glass is flanked by protruding corner "piers" of glass and limestone, doubling as mechanical equipment shafts. The top of the building at 222.5 m has a limestone "cap" with eccentric crownlike spikes at the roof corners, making the building easily recognisable on the skyline and an early break from the Internationalist rationale. Originally also known as the W.T. Grant Building, in the early years the text logo "Grants" was perched on the face of the top crown.
The office tower main entrance is from the Broadway side corners, with escalators leading to the second-floor lobby and elevators of the office tower. A through-building arcade leading from 44th Street to 45th doubles as an entrance to the building's Broadway theater.
The large Minskoff Theater, named after the building's developers, was designed by Scutt and has a 1,621 seat capacity. The theater lobby, accessible by escalators from the arcade, occupies the upper portion of the glass walled space facing Broadway, along with two cantilevered balconies. There is also a below-grade, 1,500-seat cinema underneath the retail spaces.
The building proved to be structurally demanding as the Minskoff Theater's stage and technical tower was housed underneath the Broadway side of the office building, necessitating the use of massive trusses to redirect the loads around the theater stage.
On the backside of the building is the old theatrical throughway of Shubert Alley, in the original designs planned to be covered as a glazed galleria, in vein of the ex-AT&T Building.
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Wu-Gambino April 19th, 2003, 02:15 AM 5.5/10
Pretty boring, but I love that thing on the top!
Evergrey April 19th, 2003, 02:46 AM 2.5 What is that thing on the top?
BGT April 19th, 2003, 06:33 AM 6/10
SteelCity32 April 19th, 2003, 07:08 AM weird top. But it's boxy
5/10
Bobdreamz April 19th, 2003, 08:03 AM boy some of you are being harsh!...isn't this where Viacom has it's headquarters and MTV it's studios?...I've been inside this building to see a movie once....it really stands out in the midtown skyline when viewing it from the Jersey side...I actually like the top at least they did something to make it different than your average box....7.5/10
Muse April 20th, 2003, 09:37 AM Always looks out of place - in pics and real life.
...and that late 60s/early 70s attempt at a featured roof :ohno:
...but not evil.
lol @ the last pic with that whacky 'n zany Conde Nast Building giving it a kick up the rear!
A "kind" 6
RafflesCity April 20th, 2003, 05:59 PM 6/10
The white blades on top fail to redeem the black mass beneath.
airsickpenthousedweller April 20th, 2003, 06:06 PM Typical seventies building.
I like the solution for the top that the vertical elements provide. Much better than the (often) far-fetched, anecdotic roofdesigns on many buildings from a later period.
renell April 20th, 2003, 06:07 PM 6.5 those things in the top kept it from being a simple box
Chad April 22nd, 2003, 01:42 PM definitely needs to be recladed....and absolutely not a masterpiece.......5/10
The Messiah April 28th, 2003, 02:21 AM This tower wants to be intresting....
5.5/10
Jase Calvin April 28th, 2003, 09:46 PM I think the top part is the only good thing about it. 5.5/10.
TropicalSQ744 May 10th, 2003, 06:53 PM They tried to make us tink that is isnt just a box but failed.. terribly.. The top looks horrible! Good thing the cool blue glass amkes up for it! :)
7/10
huaiwei May 28th, 2003, 01:32 PM 5/10...not inspiring..not revolting..
james2390 August 11th, 2003, 08:04 PM interesting one, 7.5
AtlanticaC5 August 21st, 2003, 07:50 PM It isn't beautiful, but it's quite tall. 7/10
il fenomeno August 28th, 2003, 10:06 PM strange box 4/10
SUNNI August 29th, 2003, 11:14 AM i like it..do u?
8/10
Patrick September 10th, 2003, 04:02 PM facade: dark, nice
form: boxy
specials: cool top!
points: 8
Liz L September 10th, 2003, 09:58 PM 7.5/10 - Nice, shiny facade, which provides a good contrast for the stone mullions and the roof. The knife-edged blades on the roof make it livlier than a plain flat top, and the indentations running up the side are another good touch.
It's still a bit boxy, though...
Fabio November 8th, 2003, 07:26 PM 4.5/10
I don't like it
SeeMacau November 21st, 2003, 08:31 AM The top is great !!
Nice black facade
8.5/10
Falcaonet November 21st, 2003, 08:08 PM 6.5/10 i don't really like the top, but it's a discrete tall building
peterthegreat November 24th, 2003, 06:38 AM ugly... 4/10
7 World Trade April 23rd, 2004, 06:24 AM the facade is ho-hum, but the crown totally saved this one
7
DamienK September 11th, 2004, 09:19 PM The pinwheel spiky top is interesting, but the rest of the tower is boring. 6.5/10
therock September 12th, 2004, 06:41 PM 7.5/10
Imperial September 12th, 2004, 06:49 PM 7/10
SChristopher October 22nd, 2004, 04:38 AM Awful. 1/10
Monkey October 31st, 2004, 10:20 PM Rubbish.
4/10
Sitol447 October 31st, 2004, 11:44 PM 7/10 - Not bad
Winus November 2nd, 2004, 10:03 PM 6/10
empersouf November 7th, 2004, 05:22 PM Nice building, but I hate the top and you can see the top on almost every NYC pic. grrrr.
8.0
andysimo123 November 22nd, 2004, 03:55 PM 6/10
TYW February 1st, 2005, 08:49 AM the top doesn't go well with the building. worse, is it's windows
6/10
Þróndeimr February 18th, 2005, 12:14 PM 6.5/10
Medo March 7th, 2005, 07:24 AM 3/10 quite hideous
MattSal March 20th, 2005, 06:37 AM A nice building, though the facade could be better. The crown kicks ass. I give it an 8.5/10. :yes:
Sonic from Padova March 26th, 2005, 01:41 PM 6!
long foot March 29th, 2005, 10:39 AM Nothing special
5
Latoso May 30th, 2005, 11:40 AM 8/10
Jules May 30th, 2005, 08:59 PM 5.
Phobos June 1st, 2005, 03:00 AM 8/10
The top's design is nice and tha facade seems good too.
Reflex June 4th, 2005, 01:42 AM 7.5/10.
ROYAL BLUE July 7th, 2005, 02:34 AM 9/10
CborG July 13th, 2005, 01:25 PM 7/10
SoboleuS August 10th, 2005, 03:53 PM I like the top. The rest of the building looks OK. 7,5/10
El_Greco August 16th, 2005, 02:33 AM 7/10
Trances August 28th, 2005, 11:26 AM nice clean facade but very boxy
not even sure i like the top rendered
1984 D.F. September 3rd, 2005, 08:32 AM simply but nice 9.5/10
United-States-of-America September 5th, 2005, 02:11 AM 7/10. Pretty nice design.
Camaway September 23rd, 2005, 11:27 AM Never really liked it aside for the top 5.5
Dancer September 30th, 2005, 07:02 PM Its not bad for a glass box and a cool little thing on top. 7.5
SGoico October 12th, 2005, 08:58 PM 3,5 I feel generous today
TowersNYC October 22nd, 2005, 03:43 PM A 10 ...and this tower actually looks better NOW, than it did in 1972... imagine HUGE red letters a top the crown with the words "GRANT"S DEPT STORE " !!!!! true!
clarky October 22nd, 2005, 05:47 PM 7.5/10
Accura4Matalan October 22nd, 2005, 06:35 PM 5.5/10
www.sercan.de October 27th, 2005, 12:31 PM 5,5/10
۩SkyScraper۩ October 30th, 2005, 08:21 AM i dont like this one 5/10
Skylandman November 1st, 2005, 02:08 PM 5/10
Pengui November 15th, 2005, 11:07 AM Too boxy, tried to get some attention with some ugly concrete thingies at the top, failed. A proof that glassy cladding on boxes can also be very ugly.
2.
ChiLooper November 17th, 2005, 12:15 AM 6/10
ROYU December 9th, 2005, 05:30 AM Nice glass box 7.5
forvine December 9th, 2005, 08:55 PM 6/10
Sinjin P. December 10th, 2005, 11:43 AM 8/10 here
anakin January 3rd, 2006, 11:38 AM 5/10
mr_storms January 4th, 2006, 04:45 AM uniqe top but thats about it
6.5/10
Scruffy88 January 9th, 2006, 08:18 AM When I was 8 years old this was my favorite building because of the crown. Now a days it still has nostaglia factor. its cool in person. Its bid but the crown rains down to street level on all 4 sides breaking up the mass. I know im totally biased here.
8.5/10
FROM LOS ANGELES January 13th, 2006, 03:26 AM It's just a box with an ordament at the top. 6/10
jimm January 18th, 2006, 11:35 AM 6/10
warnings February 5th, 2006, 02:01 AM 8.5/10 i like it :)
marpa April 16th, 2006, 02:30 AM 3/10
Skyman May 5th, 2006, 05:55 PM 7/10
ggmm May 5th, 2006, 06:16 PM It's massive, but so 70's.. should have its windows replaced. 4.5/10
ZZ-II June 14th, 2006, 08:15 PM 8.5/10
virarch July 5th, 2006, 07:58 AM 6.5/10
gutooo July 16th, 2006, 09:07 PM 7.5/10
Woko August 18th, 2006, 08:29 AM it's a 70's building, and i don't like every 70's buildings. This one makes destroyed the times square's skyline.
Pelha August 19th, 2006, 05:59 AM Huge and amazing...9.5/10
Mosaic August 24th, 2006, 09:30 AM 8/10
Cabman August 31st, 2006, 04:28 PM good in it's day looks like a good effort 7/10
delmaule September 4th, 2006, 04:34 AM 8.5/10
skipperBill September 10th, 2006, 11:20 PM 7/10.
Dreamlıneя October 14th, 2006, 02:36 AM 5/10
kirby21 October 15th, 2006, 02:08 AM 5 / 10
_zner_ November 8th, 2006, 05:06 AM 7. :ohno:
Chinky Orz November 16th, 2006, 01:31 AM 4.5/10 top ruins it all
weirdo November 26th, 2006, 03:00 PM yeah. the top kinda made everything else look a little better. just a little. 7.5/10
HT November 26th, 2006, 05:47 PM ugly : (
hoangduong December 1st, 2006, 07:01 AM ... 6/10
nygirl December 1st, 2006, 07:05 AM I loathe and love this building at the same time. It really is a monster but it is a farmiliar site on the Hudson River Skyline.
W!CKED April 14th, 2007, 04:12 PM 7/10
Ralphkke May 11th, 2007, 07:56 PM Nah the roof sucks. 5 out of 10.
cong san muon nam June 15th, 2007, 03:59 AM 7.5/10
Aliya June 24th, 2007, 06:38 PM 8/10
Henk June 25th, 2007, 03:42 PM 4/10.
LMCA1990 August 30th, 2007, 08:14 PM 7/10
newyorkrunaway1 September 25th, 2007, 10:03 AM 7/10
Astralis September 26th, 2007, 02:45 PM 8.5/10
MasonicStage™ September 26th, 2007, 04:56 PM 6,5/10
RON-E September 29th, 2007, 08:43 AM 6/10
SkyLerm September 30th, 2007, 11:18 PM When you see it from bottom is quite impressive... 7/10
Slodi October 1st, 2007, 04:41 AM boring 5/10
Sound. October 7th, 2007, 07:58 PM 5.5
Rodrigo U. October 18th, 2007, 12:05 AM 4.5/10
il fenomeno October 28th, 2007, 03:46 PM somehow interesting. 6/10
DragonAnime November 23rd, 2007, 07:48 PM Fits into Times Square well.8/10
kon133 December 9th, 2007, 12:39 AM 7,5/10
krzewi January 8th, 2008, 12:07 AM 8/10
IMPRESARIO January 20th, 2008, 04:29 PM glassy, nice name.
FloridaFuture January 20th, 2008, 10:16 PM It's not an exceptional tower but it suits its surroundings near perfectly
7/10
Halabalooza February 24th, 2008, 11:20 AM 6.5 nothing special
roen March 14th, 2008, 03:09 PM 7/10
davee08 March 23rd, 2008, 03:11 AM 5/10
LAYZIEDOGG March 23rd, 2008, 03:30 AM 6/10
GOR@N April 12th, 2008, 05:32 PM 8/10
Nikkodemo May 25th, 2008, 05:40 AM 7/10
meds June 3rd, 2008, 12:31 AM 4.5/10
Fundador June 12th, 2008, 08:07 AM 8/10:)
henry hill September 18th, 2008, 11:28 PM 7/10
briker October 5th, 2008, 04:04 PM 6/
Kawasaki KG October 19th, 2008, 11:42 AM 8/10
Rutger1991 October 19th, 2008, 03:09 PM 7/10
Malbo October 22nd, 2008, 06:34 PM 6/10
Imperfect Ending January 24th, 2009, 11:38 PM 7/10
Nice crown
poshbakerloo February 10th, 2009, 10:56 PM 3/10 good proportions...but the rest is VILE!
Eric Offereins February 28th, 2009, 12:52 AM 6/10 :)
Squiggles April 3rd, 2009, 09:00 PM 6.5/10
I've seen far worse boxes. The roof piece is not too bad, but the building itself doesn't fit its location.
DinamiT April 3rd, 2009, 10:20 PM 7.5/10... not more..
tonyssa April 26th, 2009, 04:49 PM 7/10
skyperu34 May 16th, 2009, 06:28 AM Nice...
7.0/10
HK999 July 19th, 2009, 02:52 PM don't like the top. 7/10.
Jan Del Castillo July 30th, 2009, 06:25 PM 8. Good building. Regards.
deranged August 14th, 2009, 02:32 PM 7/10
xavarreiro October 18th, 2009, 07:50 PM 7/10
desertpunk November 20th, 2009, 04:43 AM Leon Uris's masterpiece. Which is to say, it's really bad. 5
Heroico November 23rd, 2009, 07:52 PM One Astor Plaza
New York, USA
HEIGHT: 227m/744 feet
FLOORS: 54 floors
COMPLETION: 1972
ARCHITECT: Kahn & Jacobs
http://mywebpage.netscape.com/rotpics02/1astor.jpeg
http://img51.photobucket.com/albums/v156/AtlanticaC5/1AP.jpg
http://www.wirednewyork.com/times_square/images/times_square_esb_observatory_23march02.jpg
http://mywebpage.netscape.com/rotpics02/1astorbase.jpeg
8/10
sieradzanin1 January 1st, 2010, 07:24 PM 8/10
New York Morning January 6th, 2010, 09:58 PM 5.5
c6josh March 8th, 2010, 11:15 AM voted 9/10
national guard April 27th, 2010, 03:03 AM 9.5/10
ikops July 10th, 2010, 09:14 PM 7/10
motozine August 19th, 2010, 09:41 AM 7/10
romanito August 24th, 2010, 09:42 PM 8/10
Heidjer August 28th, 2010, 02:43 PM Got quite an Asian look. 4.5/10
ChitownCity September 2nd, 2010, 06:48 PM 4.5/10 that shyt on top is just ugly
ethan153 October 29th, 2010, 10:31 AM 7.5
OldBoy137 October 29th, 2010, 07:40 PM 6.5/10
Geocarlos February 6th, 2011, 11:40 PM 8.5/10
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v-sun February 11th, 2011, 02:29 PM 7/10
MonsterPug February 27th, 2011, 05:42 AM 8/10
mossimoh May 2nd, 2011, 12:45 AM 7/10
keroro91 May 2nd, 2011, 04:42 PM 8/10
konik93 May 11th, 2011, 07:05 PM 6.5/10 for materials
yudibali2008 May 20th, 2011, 01:10 PM 6.5/10
cyberprince September 13th, 2011, 12:10 AM 8/10
mecanico242 September 17th, 2011, 05:59 AM 8/10
xJamaax November 5th, 2011, 10:27 PM Just a regular tower,6/10
tim1807 November 11th, 2011, 03:51 PM 6,5/10
luis fernando November 14th, 2011, 01:12 AM 8/10
lophophora November 19th, 2011, 10:58 PM 7/10
Mike____ November 20th, 2011, 02:51 PM 9/10
Dakaro December 29th, 2011, 02:37 PM 9/10
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