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RafflesCity April 18th, 2003, 09:58 PM Charlton Centre
Johannesburg, South Africa
HEIGHT: 223m/730 feet
FLOORS: 50 floors
COMPLETION: 1973
ARCHITECT: Skidmore, Owings & Merril (SOM)
http://photo.starblvd.net/RateOurTalls/1-1-5-1078348081?m=1&pg=0&ro=0&co=4
http://photo.starblvd.net/RateOurTalls/2-3-5-1076689930?m=1&pg=1&ro=2&co=4
http://photo.starblvd.net/RateOurTalls/2-4-1-1079086063?m=1&pg=1&ro=3&co=0
http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/664/81carlton_pic2.jpg
http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/664/1479carlton-big.jpg
Wu-Gambino April 19th, 2003, 01:12 AM 4/10
Pathetic, however it seems to fit for Africa's tallest building.
SteelCity32 April 19th, 2003, 03:09 AM I don't care for it.
5/10
BGT April 19th, 2003, 05:30 AM 4.5/10
Muse April 20th, 2003, 08:24 AM 70s SOM ...
....errrr, 4
RafflesCity April 20th, 2003, 05:15 PM 5.5/10
I cant believe that this was allowed to be Africa's tallest for such a long time and still is!
renell April 21st, 2003, 10:48 AM 5/10. what a bore.
stanford April 22nd, 2003, 01:56 AM not even africa deserves this crap.
4/10
Hacksaw April 22nd, 2003, 01:57 AM I sorta like it. It fits in with the rest of the skyline... 6/10
X-seed 4000 April 22nd, 2003, 06:48 AM It kinda blows... 4.0/10
Ashram April 25th, 2003, 06:09 PM 5/10..............well atleast it's tall.
Jase Calvin April 28th, 2003, 07:14 PM No imagination whatsoever. Knock it down for something better. 3/10.
TropicalSQ744 May 10th, 2003, 05:55 PM At least its from South Africa.. But i do agree its design needs a thorough review! >(
6.5/10
huaiwei May 28th, 2003, 12:29 PM A uninspiring box gets my standard 4/10 vote.
Labrador July 19th, 2003, 03:28 PM 6/10
Okay. It's tall and stand's out. Not that bad.
SkyHawk July 21st, 2003, 04:42 PM Uhmmm
5/10
enzo July 24th, 2003, 07:04 AM Ugh. Another SOM "masterpiece".
>3
New Jack City July 29th, 2003, 05:40 AM 6/10...Very dull, bland, unimaginative. Though I do like how it blends in with the natural landscape, and gives you the sense it wasn't man made.
james2390 August 8th, 2003, 05:18 AM ugly, 7
AtlanticaC5 August 24th, 2003, 09:50 PM Quite boring box, 5.5/10
Liz L August 25th, 2003, 09:46 AM 4/10 - Dull, almost ugly slab that's too fat to soar well, with a facade that makes no attempt to dance with the light at all...
Sheesh! THAT'S by SOM?!! Did one of their interns get the job by mistake?
The Messiah August 28th, 2003, 04:26 PM It's a dull tower.No good..
4.5/10
SUNNI August 29th, 2003, 12:07 PM I usually love SOMs buildings ...but...thins one is errr...
4/10
Patrick September 10th, 2003, 03:02 PM facade: i hate it!
form: it's a box, in combination with this ugly facade ->
points: 1/10
SeeMacau September 11th, 2003, 12:28 PM Tall and ugly
6/10
Fabio November 8th, 2003, 06:24 PM 5/10
I don't like it
airsickpenthousedweller November 8th, 2003, 10:41 PM Needs better pictures, now I can only rate it 6/10
johnrosstaiwan December 5th, 2003, 06:09 PM 10/10. My favorite building in the world.
Sounds stupid?? It was my first skyscraper.I grew up on the countryside of South Africa and this was my first. I was only 12 years old when I saw it for the first time.The Carlton Center was already 14 years old by that time.
How can you forget your first ????
This building was the beginning of my love for skyscrapers.How can I put into words?? Those of you who truly love skyscrapers will understand.
:angel1: :angel1: :angel1: :angel1: :angel1: :angel1: :angel1:
TYW December 19th, 2003, 08:51 AM just a box
just a 6
Aquarius December 21st, 2003, 05:00 PM 2/10, very very ugly
alex3000 December 23rd, 2003, 03:56 AM 3/10
7 World Trade April 23rd, 2004, 04:04 AM the color's not bad, but those detached support columns from the main building that creates a caged look makes it look absolutely low quality.
6.5
Desven July 7th, 2004, 07:00 PM this ugly building is #173???????????
3 or less!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Agent Orange July 14th, 2004, 09:02 AM A hideous building that no city should have the disgrace having this as their tallest. If only you could rate a building 1/10.
Trances July 14th, 2004, 09:53 AM Dull box
nice outer shell with rough rendering but nothing much to to save it
4/10
Schroedinger's Cat July 14th, 2004, 02:55 PM 5.5/10
DamienK August 3rd, 2004, 04:20 PM Boring box. 6/10
SChristopher September 7th, 2004, 09:01 PM 3...looks like a giant skyscraper version of a Target store
David3820 September 18th, 2004, 09:16 PM Oh there just so much sence of hopelesness in this one but it doesn't bother me that much. 3.5/10
Hed Kandi October 24th, 2004, 11:04 AM looking at age size and location 8
Þróndeimr October 24th, 2004, 02:50 PM Boring and ugly, 4/10
kota16 October 24th, 2004, 03:41 PM I enjoyed the view from the top floor, so I give it 5. The Hotel section was very ritzy.
Curtis October 24th, 2004, 04:14 PM 8
I like this kind of 'bland' 1970's Architecture. For that same reason I really like the Singapore Land Tower.
Monkey October 31st, 2004, 01:31 AM 5/10
Dull beyond belief. The only interesting thing is its height.
Winus November 2nd, 2004, 07:23 PM I think a 4 is quite high
empersouf November 12th, 2004, 04:05 PM 7.0 for the tallest building of Africa. But why is it a Box :'(
joburg November 14th, 2004, 07:08 PM Unfortunately it's as boring as hell.
5/10.
Us South Africans seem to be extremely conservative when it comes to building design. The current trend is anti-skyscraper (there are only two in Johannesburg currently under construction), and all embracing of squat, cliched and boring office blocks. It's an eye sore! :(
tritown November 14th, 2004, 10:56 PM It's a little dull...6...it's a shame that the tallest couldn't be something more original.
Agglomeration November 18th, 2004, 04:36 PM Pretty average for a skyscraper, but it's still important to the city's economy and character considering how poor the country is. Better than nothing I guess. 6/10
andysimo123 November 22nd, 2004, 03:06 PM 4/10
R@ptor February 28th, 2005, 03:44 PM 3.0/10
Africa really deserves a better highest building!
Reflex March 3rd, 2005, 10:59 PM 5/10.
Medo March 7th, 2005, 06:08 AM 4/10 looks like an eyesore, oh wait it is an eyesore.
MattSal March 20th, 2005, 05:38 AM Africa deserves better. Still, an okay building. I give it a 7/10.
VanSeaPor March 24th, 2005, 09:40 PM How dull and boring, looks dirty, with 1oo% room for improvement. 3.5/10. :down:
Sonic from Padova March 26th, 2005, 12:20 PM It's really UGLY, 3!
Chibcha2k April 1st, 2005, 06:37 AM I like it...maybe after a reclad...it would look awesome
8/10
superskyline April 9th, 2005, 02:58 AM very plain and boring, I don't like the facade that much
6/10
Alfa April 15th, 2005, 07:21 PM Way to flat.Maybe acceptable in the time it was build but now ...
3/10
BTW:Is it Johannesburg tallest tower?
clive330 April 18th, 2005, 02:20 AM There are 2 standalone observation / comms towers that are taller, but it is the tallest office building
Service Lift Attendant April 18th, 2005, 05:48 AM A 223m high tire-fire would be more appealing than this totem of trash.
clive330 April 18th, 2005, 07:26 AM It does make you wonder how bad all the designs that this one beat were!
SoboleuS April 22nd, 2005, 02:11 PM I like boxes, but this one is rather average ;) 6/10
B@dGuYoM April 22nd, 2005, 08:17 PM 6/10 for its size
get13 April 24th, 2005, 02:39 PM Very dull and bland. A boring box
4/10
EdZed April 26th, 2005, 07:02 AM 5/10
Must be such an eyesore
mtb_nz April 26th, 2005, 07:07 AM ewwwwwww 3/10
Minneapolitan May 12th, 2005, 07:08 AM 4/10
Pathetic, however it seems to fit for Africa's tallest building.
^How smug and arrogant.
I have always liked this building. One of the striking features of this building is the way the outer facade is disconnected from the windows, almost forming a skeletal structure hanging the rest of the building from it. A cool effect.
7.5
DRAKKO May 12th, 2005, 07:11 PM 7/10
Phobos May 12th, 2005, 11:19 PM 5/10
It needs to be redesigned.
Latoso May 28th, 2005, 09:37 AM 7.5/10 Materials could be better.
Wssps May 28th, 2005, 09:45 PM For that time, I think it was very creative >>>>>>> 5.5 :P
Jules June 5th, 2005, 11:27 PM Boring. 4.
Fern June 6th, 2005, 12:47 AM :puke: 0!!!
thryve July 6th, 2005, 02:34 AM It was to Johannesburg what the Trade Centre was to New York... a big, brash, tall tower that still got loved by just about everybody... Its not pretty, but linear, simple, and timeless you could say.
Imperfect Ending July 6th, 2005, 09:26 AM 0/10
MAKE IT GO AWAY!
ROYAL BLUE July 6th, 2005, 11:50 PM 6/10
CborG July 13th, 2005, 12:36 PM It looks likr it has been abandoned for a long time, 4.5/10
El_Greco August 17th, 2005, 08:29 PM 6/10
1984 D.F. September 3rd, 2005, 07:18 AM 3/10 it´s big box.
marpa September 24th, 2005, 02:22 AM I like boxes, but this one is rather average
7/10
drmadham September 24th, 2005, 02:31 AM blagh! ill give it 4.5 only cause it was in johannesburg during the 70's. other than that - "make it go away"
jimm September 28th, 2005, 12:57 PM 9/10
SGoico October 12th, 2005, 07:59 PM 3,5 Nothing to say
Accura4Matalan October 22nd, 2005, 05:44 PM 4/10 :puke:
ChiLooper October 22nd, 2005, 08:04 PM 4.5/10
clarky October 23rd, 2005, 03:45 PM 6/10
www.sercan.de October 27th, 2005, 11:24 AM look like a multi-storey car park
3/10
۩SkyScraper۩ October 30th, 2005, 07:24 AM 5/10
Skylandman November 1st, 2005, 01:10 PM 3.5/10
Pengui November 15th, 2005, 09:59 AM International-style, concrete, way too big, this one has everything to please !
Africa deserves a better tallest (the sooner the better).
0.5 (for holding a record).
ChiLooper November 16th, 2005, 11:13 PM 4/10
forvine December 9th, 2005, 04:03 PM the facade looks dirty 5/10
Sinjin P. December 10th, 2005, 10:44 AM 5.5/10
JAB323 January 2nd, 2006, 03:52 AM I love it because I love anything South African
mr_storms January 4th, 2006, 03:54 AM 5/10
Scruffy88 January 9th, 2006, 07:07 AM Looks skeletal. 5/10 solely for being the tallest building on the entire continent
Fallout January 13th, 2006, 12:19 AM What is it? Prison? Barracks? Largest multi-storey parking in the world?
3.0 or less
FROM LOS ANGELES January 13th, 2006, 01:55 AM I would like it if the walls on the front were made from other material. It sucks. 5/10
kylof February 4th, 2006, 12:10 AM And some of you write that the Palace of Culture (Warsaw) is ugly :)
warnings February 5th, 2006, 12:34 AM 5/10
Harkeb February 7th, 2006, 08:03 AM unimaginative apartheid-era architecture, eventhough it was once one of the best hotels in the world.
Moren-o February 12th, 2006, 02:54 PM horrible, but maybe it can use some more pics.
skipperBill March 5th, 2006, 08:43 PM 6.5/10.
Henk April 27th, 2006, 10:56 PM 4/10.
anakin April 28th, 2006, 09:15 AM 4/10
dżimi pejdż April 29th, 2006, 01:35 PM 3/10
Skyman May 5th, 2006, 03:30 PM 4/10
ZZ-II June 14th, 2006, 07:45 PM it's ok 8/10
Erebus555 June 19th, 2006, 08:51 PM U.G.L.Y 4/10.
_zner_ June 23rd, 2006, 08:38 AM 7.
virarch July 5th, 2006, 07:34 AM 3/10
gutooo July 16th, 2006, 07:53 PM 5/10
Mosaic August 22nd, 2006, 10:52 AM 5/10
Dreamlıneя October 26th, 2006, 09:35 AM 4/10
weirdo November 5th, 2006, 07:08 PM i dunno if it's just me, but i don't see anything.
W!CKED April 14th, 2007, 06:19 PM 4/10
AM Putra April 17th, 2007, 05:18 AM Common. 6/10.
Ralphkke May 11th, 2007, 12:36 AM Can't see any pictures:(
cong san muon nam June 15th, 2007, 08:16 AM I threw up blood when I saw it :puke: It's TOO UGLY. 1/10
Kelsen June 17th, 2007, 02:22 AM :redx: :redx: :redx: :redx:
Aliya June 24th, 2007, 05:34 PM 5.5/10
LMCA1990 August 30th, 2007, 10:05 PM 6/10 -eww.
http://amethyst.co.za/JhbLandmarks/Skyscrapers/CarltonCentre.jpg
Sound. August 31st, 2007, 11:27 PM 7/10
krull September 4th, 2007, 12:15 AM 4/10 Dont care for it.
Cabman September 10th, 2007, 04:35 PM Doesn't look as tall as it is...oh and it is dull 5/10
kyle@1008 September 12th, 2007, 12:46 PM 5....
Slodi September 12th, 2007, 01:17 PM ugly box 3/10
Astralis September 24th, 2007, 04:46 PM 4/10
newyorkrunaway1 September 25th, 2007, 07:58 AM 4/10
MasonicStage™ September 28th, 2007, 11:46 AM 4/10
RON-E September 29th, 2007, 07:17 AM 4/10
hiiamdib September 29th, 2007, 09:02 PM I will be nice to this one. Ill give it a 7.5
SkyLerm September 30th, 2007, 10:22 PM 5/10...
DragonAnime November 23rd, 2007, 08:44 PM Not exactly the most beautiful building ever constructed, but not the worst... 6/10 is the most fair rating I can give it.
krzewi January 7th, 2008, 11:45 PM 4/10
IMPRESARIO January 20th, 2008, 03:36 PM uglyyyy!
FloridaFuture January 20th, 2008, 09:10 PM 2/10
Halabalooza February 24th, 2008, 10:24 AM ew 3
roen March 14th, 2008, 02:04 PM 3/10
davee08 March 23rd, 2008, 02:13 AM 4/10
GOR@N April 12th, 2008, 04:38 PM 5/10
Nikkodemo May 8th, 2008, 04:15 AM What a box!!!
3/10
Fundador May 8th, 2008, 11:37 AM not bad 7/10
henry hill September 18th, 2008, 10:49 PM 6/10
briker October 5th, 2008, 02:19 PM 5/
Rutger1991 October 21st, 2008, 01:18 PM 7/10
Ni3lS October 22nd, 2008, 12:00 PM 4/10
Kawasaki KG October 31st, 2008, 11:46 PM 3/10
Inconfidente December 12th, 2008, 12:02 PM No pics anymore.
DinamiT April 5th, 2009, 12:44 AM 6/10
too plain
A_Voz_Da_Figueira April 5th, 2009, 01:21 PM 5/10
tonyssa April 26th, 2009, 09:56 PM 4/10
ireneo April 27th, 2009, 12:29 AM 5/10
skyperu34 May 16th, 2009, 01:09 AM Boring...
5.0/10
Jan Del Castillo July 30th, 2009, 03:52 AM 7. Regards.
deranged August 14th, 2009, 01:47 PM 4/10
Kurtin October 12th, 2009, 09:48 AM This ones going to get the sympathy vote since its called the Carlton Center not the Charlton Center.
Plus this is MNU headquarters in the movie District 9 :D
9/10
xavarreiro October 17th, 2009, 08:00 PM 7/10
sieradzanin1 January 2nd, 2010, 04:38 PM 7/10
New York Morning January 6th, 2010, 09:01 PM 5.5
c6josh March 8th, 2010, 10:14 AM voted 6.5/10
motozine August 20th, 2010, 06:24 AM 5/10
romanito August 24th, 2010, 03:03 AM 9/10
Heidjer August 29th, 2010, 08:59 PM Good old 70's box. 6.5/10
ethan153 November 8th, 2010, 09:52 PM 4/10
OldBoy137 January 17th, 2011, 09:41 AM 5/10
v-sun February 11th, 2011, 04:17 PM 8/10
Eric Offereins March 24th, 2011, 02:22 PM 7/10 :)
mossimoh May 1st, 2011, 10:21 PM Fail! 2/10
yudibali2008 May 20th, 2011, 12:48 PM oh my 5/10
Geocarlos May 28th, 2011, 08:22 PM http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/6875/193431.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/151/193431.jpg/)
http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/4944/carltoncentre.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/830/carltoncentre.jpg/)
http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/2108/jhbcarltonmineheadgears.gif (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/839/jhbcarltonmineheadgears.gif/)
Geocarlos May 28th, 2011, 08:23 PM 4/10
dnh310 May 29th, 2011, 07:08 AM 8/10
keroro91 June 4th, 2011, 02:09 PM 6.5/10
xJamaax June 6th, 2011, 01:44 PM Very old but impressive for a place like Africa!
7/10
mecanico242 July 22nd, 2011, 09:51 PM 3/10
Amboseli Daima August 25th, 2011, 02:47 AM 4..soooo 70's.Reclad,renew or knock it down.
cyberprince November 22nd, 2011, 12:09 PM 6/10
Blingchampion November 28th, 2011, 04:44 PM 6/10
xJamaax December 27th, 2011, 03:55 PM This tower is a bit old, SA needs another one to replace these old ones!
briker December 28th, 2011, 05:17 PM bring it down already!!!!!
Dakaro December 29th, 2011, 02:09 PM 8
In my opinion, nice building ;)
ThatOneGuy June 11th, 2012, 09:16 PM http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/32/CarltonCentreExterior.jpg/200px-CarltonCentreExterior.jpg
Looks like it would belong in NYC. 7.5/10
Highcliff June 17th, 2012, 07:46 PM 10/10
Kulla July 12th, 2012, 12:35 PM 7/10
SydneyCity July 14th, 2012, 03:54 AM Ehh...4.5/10.
Grejv August 18th, 2012, 03:51 PM 7/10
NickABQ April 8th, 2013, 07:33 PM Definitely Carlton Center needs an update. I have been here a few times now, and it is a really vibrant place! needs some love and could be really nice again.
The observation deck on the 50th floor is in terrible shape unfortunately :(
They really should reinvest soon, as it will be the tallest in the CBD for some time...
Still, I like the size and scale, and I have an odd affinity for brutalism. 7/10
christos-greece April 9th, 2013, 07:49 PM 7.5/10
billyjean April 19th, 2013, 03:37 PM 5/10
burgund May 3rd, 2013, 12:19 AM 6/10
bozenBDJ May 10th, 2013, 11:23 AM 10/10
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