View Full Version : KPF LBT adandoned neighbour
June 12th, 2006, 05:11 AM
I found images of the proposed KPF skyscraper was was planned to go next door to LBT (the site of new london bridge house)but was abandoned when Sellar & pals bought the site a few yeasr back.
go to portfolio -London Bridge.
I dont know how to grab & paste quicktime images so if anyone can, please do & post them here.
June 12th, 2006, 05:14 AM
Looked quite nice btw - slight similarties to Heron but I think it would have ruined the setting of LBT so I prefer the new mini shard were getting now.
June 12th, 2006, 08:52 AM
June 12th, 2006, 08:54 AM
Very nice, but the Shard would obviously look better on its own.
June 12th, 2006, 08:56 AM
Any estimates on the height? Must have been at least 250m+ and that's not including the spire.
June 12th, 2006, 09:15 AM
that buildings incredible! :drool:
is it on guys hospital plot?!
if it is it has to be built!
June 12th, 2006, 09:19 AM
warcry: read post 1 again...
June 12th, 2006, 09:20 AM
warcry: read post 1 again...
June 12th, 2006, 09:34 AM
and... that little paragraph I wrote tells you where it is & what status it is ;)
will- I think a height of around 600ft was mentioned when someone wrote on the forums years back from someone having seen the proposal .
June 12th, 2006, 10:45 AM
It's much too close to Shard, a couple of 200m buildings by Shard would be nice. As for this one, I really like the design, it would be better in CW to add some character.
June 12th, 2006, 10:58 AM
Would suit somewhere like Stratford International but I'm glad we're getting the Baby Shard instead, this would have just ruined the setting of The Shard.
June 12th, 2006, 12:08 PM
looks awful next to the shard, glad it was scuppered, like a tower block next to a church
June 12th, 2006, 12:23 PM
It would have been very nice in Canary Wharf. I don't think it would be quite good enough on its own.
June 12th, 2006, 12:24 PM
I don't mind seeing a cluster of low-rise modern buildings surrounding The Shard to replace what architectural disasters are currently there, and this includes the 1980s office blocks plaguing the river front, but what this goes to show is nothing really can compete in terms of style and elegance as The Shard, and because of this I'm opposed to creating a high rise cluster in this part of Southwark. I've always been dubious as to turning Southwark into a business district- it's narrow streets and high residential population does not warrant huge office blocks, and should be clustered within the City.
Further into Southwark, I think Palestra has been a bit of a disaster in terms of street level experience. I wouldn't mind so much high rises here, as long as they opened up street level and contributed to the urban framework by opening up the streets to the pedestrian and prevented wind swept plazas from being created. To this end, I would welcome tall, thin residential or mixed use towers, with plazas and green spaces at their base and cultural elements that responded to the locality.
I have a feeling though the success of Palestra in monetary terms will mean even more of Southwark's tiny historical streets sucked up by floorspace heavy groundscrapers, which is just plain stupid and wrong.
June 12th, 2006, 12:35 PM
what this goes to show is nothing really can compete in terms of style and elegance as The Shard, and because of this I'm opposed to creating a high rise cluster in this part of Southwark.
I agree - the Shard is truly in a league of its own.
June 12th, 2006, 01:51 PM
I don't mind seeing a cluster of low-rise modern buildings surrounding The Shard to replace what architectural disasters are currently there, and this includes the 1980s office blocks plaguing the river front,
alas more london is brand new and unfortunately not going anywhere just yet :jk:
June 12th, 2006, 01:55 PM
I'd not want anything over 100m near LBT to tell the truth, it has to have that superior status being the tallest I feel.. if theres to be anything tall, it should remain in the cluster/ the wharf or elsewhere in another cluster..
This is an incredible design, shame it weren't somewhere else.. does look a bit too tall mind, but could of gone near Broadgate, lol.. Would of been ideal for the Wharf!
June 12th, 2006, 02:00 PM
Height was 211m according to SN.
June 12th, 2006, 05:12 PM
Imagine this building in the City cluster or Canary wharf!
June 12th, 2006, 05:42 PM
Would'nt surprise me if it did turn up in the City in some similar form.
Aren't KPF doing the design work on the tower thats due to go between Heron and Bishops gate Tower?
Jack Rabbit Slim
June 12th, 2006, 06:47 PM
RIP DOWN GUY's HOSPITAL AND BUILD THIS BEAST!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think (like most people) that LBt would look better on its onw, but if you have to have something next to it, I would muuuuuuuuuuuuch rather it be this proposal then God-awful Guy's hospital!
June 12th, 2006, 06:58 PM
actually I dont. LBT is completely ruined by this building. WTH is the point of having a slender tapering thing that is meant to seem like it is soaring above when you go and stick this next to it, it cancels out all the hard work of LBT. Remember LBT has been designed like it is because it stands alone. This building is parasitic full stop
June 12th, 2006, 07:29 PM
I liked this building at first glance, it doesn't seem to bad, but since it isn't going here it would be nice to see this proposed in the City.
June 12th, 2006, 09:01 PM
Basically it's not a bad proposal and the cladding looks excellent but that location would be a mess. Perhaps in somewhere like Canary Wharf this would fit in better. LBT needs to soar for now on its own, but I'd definetely support a new building of the same height on the plot of Guys. Shame it aint going to happen.
Danger! 50,000 volts
June 12th, 2006, 09:54 PM
Might be better further upstream - say by the vauxhall/E+C cluster.