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dysan1
June 15th, 2006, 04:05 PM
South Africa's 2010 stadiums kick Off...

With thankz to Durbsboi....

The new Senzangakhona sport stadium unveiled

15 June, 2006

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/4125/stadium2sd.jpg

FUTURISTIC: 2010 and beyond - the new Senzangakhone stadium will be a world-class multi-purpose sporting facility

The new Senzangakhona Stadium, unveiled this morning at Durban's ICC by KwaZulu-Natal's Premier Sbu Ndebele and eThekwini Mayor Councillor Obed Mlaba, will be a world-class stadium.

The new stadium will be built on the site of the existing King's Park stadium and has been designed as a first-class multi-purpose sporting facility.

The project has been awarded to the Ibhola Lethu consortium.

Projected capital expenditure on construction of the stadium is R1,6 billion, making it the most ambitious construction project undertaken in South Africa to date.

The stadium will be built to comply with international safety and security standards.

Senzangakhona stadium key features
The stadium will have a seating capacity for 70 000 people.
The arches will be 100m high.
The stadium will cover 320 x 280 square metres and will be 45m in height.
Important milestones
Physical demolition of the existing stadium will take place end June.
Building construction will begin towards the end of the year.

Source:www.durban.gov.za

dysan1
June 15th, 2006, 04:09 PM
the "70 000 to 100 000" is that the design is for 70 000 permanent seats with design capacity to allow for 100 000 temp if Durban gets the Commonwealth or Olympics like it plans to bid for.

Great looker...and two arches instead of one...symmetry...

www.sercan.de
June 15th, 2006, 06:03 PM
looks like Calatrava :D

i like it
but i need also interior pics

sorry dysan1 :(
i don't understand how they will make it to 100,000

The Concerned Potato
June 15th, 2006, 06:55 PM
the Wembley architects must be a bit annoyed lol

Mo Rush
June 15th, 2006, 06:56 PM
the "70 000 to 100 000" is that the design is for 70 000 permanent seats with design capacity to allow for 100 000 temp if Durban gets the Commonwealth or Olympics like it plans to bid for.

Great looker...and two arches instead of one...symmetry...
yeah olympics would need 100 000, 70,000 is more than enough for a commonwealth games

Mo Rush
June 15th, 2006, 07:07 PM
the Wembley architects must be a bit annoyed lol
yeah and to think it might get built in half the time and at half the cost..

Sparks
June 15th, 2006, 08:12 PM
Nice and original :bash:

dysan1
June 16th, 2006, 12:04 AM
looks like Calatrava :D

i like it
but i need also interior pics

sorry dysan1 :(
i don't understand how they will make it to 100,000


We all want to see many more pics!!! we doing our best to get them, but this was the only one on the cities website today.

The design of the stadium is such, that at a later stage the capacity can be increased to 100 000 with the use of temp stands. i dont know how, but thats what they told us! it was only made public on thursday, so we all low on the facts right now

dysan1
June 16th, 2006, 12:10 AM
R1,6 billion Stadium unveiled

Provincial and City officials today unveiled a model of the R1,6 billion stadium that will play host to some of the world’s finest footballers in 2010.

KZN has become the first province in the country to unveil the design of its stadium, which will be about 30 stories high and be completed well before the world soccer tournament in 2010. The stadium will be built on the site of the existing Kings Park Soccer Stadium.

KwaZulu-Natal Premier S’bu Ndebele said by unveiling the design of the new King Senzangakhona Stadium, they were launching the provinces readiness programme and setting out on an exciting road towards the world’s most watched sports event.

He said the completion of the new King Shaka International Airport at La Mercy would facilitate better transport for tourists and give the city a fair share of the R21 billion in tourism spin-off’s.

The stadium will have a parking basement that can accommodate more than 10 000 cars.

Mayor Obed Mlaba said: “By today’s unveiling, the city of Durban signals that it is ready for the 2010 Soccer World Cup.” He said the construction of the stadium and all the preparations for the tournament would create plenty of job opportunities and further increase economic growth.

Jack Rabbit Slim
June 16th, 2006, 12:12 AM
Whoa, a curvy, rounded stadium with a big arch supporting the roof.....where do these guys get their ideas, we should be buildings these kind of stadiums in England...oh, wait.... ;)

Nice stadium, good capacity, not orginal, not gonna get used to full extent after the WC, but a nice stadium none-the-less

hngcm
June 16th, 2006, 03:30 AM
I'll shoot someone if it has a track for WC games.

nomarandlee
June 16th, 2006, 03:57 AM
I think it looks pretty dope (would still like to see the inside renders). Would these mean that Durban would have the inside track to representing South Africa in a future Olympic I wonder? I assume this is going to be built in time for WC 2010?

As far as not being "orginal". Pfff.. How many stadiums are TRUELY origonal? Maybe some Wembley boosters think that any arch over a stadium ever again is a shameless rip off inferior to the mother ship. As if an arch is that novel of a concept.

Mo Rush
June 16th, 2006, 04:24 AM
I think it looks pretty dope (would still like to see the inside renders). Would these mean that Durban would have the inside track to representing South Africa in a future Olympic I wonder? I assume this is going to be built in time for WC 2010?

As far as not being "orginal". Pfff.. How many stadiums are TRUELY origonal? Maybe some Wembley boosters think that any arch over a stadium ever again is a shameless rip off inferior to the mother ship. As if an arch is that novel of a concept.
cape town is getting a new stadium with an athletics track to seat 70,000 as well...so im sure joburg durban and cape town would bid nationally for 2020 or beyond.

Mo Rush
June 16th, 2006, 04:29 AM
I'll shoot someone if it has a track for WC games.
hopefully retractable seating...

Zorba
June 16th, 2006, 05:14 AM
I like the design. Any photos of what the interior should look like?

GregPz
June 16th, 2006, 08:53 AM
http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/8021/newstadium7bt.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Durban's skywalk stadium
June 16, 2006 Edition 1

GREG ARDÉ & NOLOYISO MCHUNU

PEDESTRIANS will enjoy panoramic 360-degree views of Durban's sea and cityscape as they walk 100m above the turf at the "iconic" new R1.6 billion King Senzangakhona soccer stadium, plans of which were unveiled in Durban yesterday.
The covered stadium, to be built ahead of the 2010 World Cup, will boast a spectacular pedestrian arch which, at 100m, will be as high as the city's landmark Roma Revolving Restaurant atop John Ross House on the Esplanade.

An international consortium that counts Durban advocate Kessie Naidu as one of its local members has been awarded the tender to design and project manage construction of eThekwini's new showpiece.

Naidu is the Chairman of the BKS Group, a civil engineering firm that will act as lead consultants in the Ibhola Lethu consortium that was awarded the design and project management of the 280m-wide stadium project.

The site is a 2ha piece of land opposite Durban's Absa rugby stadium and is home to the old soccer stadium, which is being demolished.

Premier S'bu Ndebele announced the successful consortium at the launch of the concept design at the International Convention Centre in Durban yesterday.

Mayor Obed Mlaba said the stadium, to be built in part to host a semi-final during the 2010 Soccer World Cup, would stimulate the regional economy and create jobs.

Julie-May Ellingson, who heads the city's strategic projects unit, said the public would receive a detailed technical briefing in a fortnight.

But she did reveal that the 70 000 to 85 000-seater stadium would have an athletics track and would be suitable for a host of sports.

It had been financially modelled to pay for itself, but might cost ratepayers R2 million a year in subsidies.

"We will be very aggressive in attracting international sporting events," she said.

Ellingson said the stadium, named after King Shaka's father, would have 2 600 hospitality seats for businesses that could not afford the 120 corporate boxes.

Ordinary tickets would cost the same as the R25 now charged for soccer fans, but with annual inflation increases.

Part of the concept proposal for the stadium is a 10 000-bay underground parking lot where the train shunting yards are.

It is also envisaged that Walter Gilbert Avenue will be turned into a pedestrian boulevard.

The tender for construction of the stadium will be announced in November. Construction will begin in January next year to be completed by January 2009.

Construction will involve 5 300 tons of steel and 190 000 tons of concrete. The stadium will have a basement with restaurants and curio shops facing the sea.

The project management tender is worth about 13% of the total R1.6 billion cost and the balance is spent on construction.

The BKS Group is among South Africa's top three civil engineering firms and heads the Ibhola Lethu consortium.

Ibhola Lethu includes German-based GMP International, a firm of architects, another German firm, SBP (structural engineers with experience in roofs), local architects T&J Ambrose Afrique, Durban quantity surveyors Letchmiah Daya Mandindi, Ilison Consulting Engineers (civils), Singatha Africa (traffic management), Ibuya Consulting (electrical) and LSG International (mechanical engineers). There are 14 sub-consultants and five specialist consultants.

According to BKS KZN Regional Director Tim Ter Haar, his company has managed the construction of the Nelson Mandela Bridge in Johannesburg, the Ellis Park, Loftus and Absa stadiums, as well as the FNB Soccer City in Gauteng. Ter Haar said BKS, in conjunction with GMP, was the lead consultant on three new stadiums for 2010.

Source: themercury.co.za

Giorgio
June 16th, 2006, 08:58 AM
To me it looks like the archs were an afterthought or an element of Calatravas OAKA.
Who knows....I love the white though.

dysan1
June 16th, 2006, 11:19 AM
There will be 2 boulevard/park areas. one leading to the CBD, the other to the beach...i dont think u cld get closer to the beach if you really wanted.

Also like the symettry of the arch, even tho an arch aint a new thing, the balance and split are good elements. also being able to walk to the top of the arch and see the whole city surround u will be a great thing!

they still have to release more images and details. They also have to release images of the new multimodal transport station and indoor arena that lie next to the development.

dysan1
June 16th, 2006, 12:39 PM
B]Seems no athletics track in the way[/B]:



Durban’s R1,6 billion World Cup Soccer stadium was unveiled by KZN Premier S’bu Ndebele and eThekwini Mayor Obed Mlaba yesterday.

Named after King Shaka's father, the King Senzangakhona Stadium will anchor a precinct that includes the “Central Park of Africa” and a number of additional stadiums, all named after Zulu kings.

The 70 000-seater King Senzangakhona Stadium is expected to be “substantially finished” by the end of 2008 so it can be handed over in 2009 for the Confederation Cup that precedes the 2010 Fifa World Cup. It will host a number of matches and a semi-final during the World Cup. It is also central to Durban’s bids for the Commonwealth and Olympic games.

KZN is the first province and Durban the first city to reveal its stadium plans. The Senzangakhona Stadium is also the first project of this size and value in KZN. The doughnut-shaped, space-age design, with a 30-storey arch, will sit on the existing King’s Park Soccer Stadium site fronting Walter Gilbert Road. [/B]There will be restaurants and coffee bars on a piazza area. Walter Gilbert Road will be paved and commercialised. It will be closed as a pedestrian thoroughfare during events and opened for slow-moving traffic in between.[/B]

Julie-May Ellingson, head of the city’s strategic project unit and the 2010 programme, told The Witness that the stadium is designed as part of a Central Park of Africa concept.

Plans to invest hundreds of millions in a 70 000-car underground parking facility next to the stadium (that is not part of the official stadium contract) have also been given the green light. It will stretch back to Argyle Road underneath the railway shunting yards and be topped by a park. A link to adjacent beaches has been proposed.

Details of proposed developments surrounding the new stadium remain sketchy but Ellingson said the King’s Park framework plan has been finalised and submitted to sports federations within the precinct for final comment.

The stadium design allows for a huge amount of versatility. The floor level of the stadium can be raised by about 1,6 metres and retrofitted to form a world-class athletics track at very little cost. This equips the city to bid for the 2014 Commonwealth Games. The stadium can also accommodate most sports (with the exception of cricket) and is integral to an active campaign to attract more international sporting events to Durban.

“The new Senzangakhona Stadium will act as the hub of the Kings’ Park precinct for all the other facilities and initiatives within the province. The new stadium will be an iconic, world-class, multi-purpose stadium.

“We are determined that the benefits of hosting a World Cup event will be long term and that the projects we embark on to get 2010 ready are sustainable and focused on our long-term strategic objectives for eThekwini and for KwaZulu-Natal,” Ndebele said.

Ellingson said the business plan for the stadium centres on affordability and sustainability, including ease of maintenance, to ensure a lifespan of at least 20 years.

After 2010 “should rugby come into the stadium” it would be completely self sufficient. Without rugby, the provincial and local governments will have to subsidise the stadium by R2 million a year.

Local soccer match ticket prices will be extremely affordable — the business plan for King Senzangakhona is based on the current soccer ticket price of R25.

Another important income stream will be hospitality. There are plans for 2 650 hospitality seats in 112 to 120 hospitality suites. However, according to Ellingson, international trends support a move away from private boxes towards large corporate hospitality areas and these have been designed into the stadium.

The stadium will be 270 metres by 320 metres and 45 metres high, with the arch rising to close to 100 metres (just over 30 storeys).

Demolition of the existing stadium is imminent.

Tender documents for the construction of the new stadium should be awarded by the end of October and a main contractor will be appointed towards the end of the year. Some initial earthworks and piling may begin by the first week of December 2006, but the bulk of the work will be undertaken over 32 weeks in 2007 and 2008.

The professional consortium responsible for the final design and construction management for the new stadium is Ibhola Lethu, which is believed to include both German experts and a local black empowerment element.

Mlaba said Durban has plans to welcome the expected World Cup visitors. There are already 8 000 hotel beds within 10 minutes of the grounds, and at least 10 hotels will be built by 2010. “The city’s public transport system [taxis, buses, minibuses and a planned people mover within the city centre] will have the capacity to carry fans to the venues. An integrated plan has been submitted to the treasury for a major upgrade of transport facilities and will be fast-tracked for the World Cup 2010,” he said.

Published: 16 June 2006
Source: The Witness

Mo Rush
June 16th, 2006, 12:39 PM
prob not very original but how about putting part of the fan park inside absa stadium? surely absa stadium could be used for something during the world cup...maybe matches for fans..supporters playing against each other? or setting up tents for hospitality areas...i spose the stadium would kinda act as a wind barrier or not if one is putting up tents inside?

Mo Rush
June 16th, 2006, 12:43 PM
B]Seems no athletics track in the way[/B]:



Durban’s R1,6 billion World Cup Soccer stadium was unveiled by KZN Premier S’bu Ndebele and eThekwini Mayor Obed Mlaba yesterday.

Named after King Shaka's father, the King Senzangakhona Stadium will anchor a precinct that includes the “Central Park of Africa” and a number of additional stadiums, all named after Zulu kings.

The 70 000-seater King Senzangakhona Stadium is expected to be “substantially finished” by the end of 2008 so it can be handed over in 2009 for the Confederation Cup that precedes the 2010 Fifa World Cup. It will host a number of matches and a semi-final during the World Cup. It is also central to Durban’s bids for the Commonwealth and Olympic games.

KZN is the first province and Durban the first city to reveal its stadium plans. The Senzangakhona Stadium is also the first project of this size and value in KZN. The doughnut-shaped, space-age design, with a 30-storey arch, will sit on the existing King’s Park Soccer Stadium site fronting Walter Gilbert Road. [/B]There will be restaurants and coffee bars on a piazza area. Walter Gilbert Road will be paved and commercialised. It will be closed as a pedestrian thoroughfare during events and opened for slow-moving traffic in between.[/B]

Julie-May Ellingson, head of the city’s strategic project unit and the 2010 programme, told The Witness that the stadium is designed as part of a Central Park of Africa concept.

Plans to invest hundreds of millions in a 70 000-car underground parking facility next to the stadium (that is not part of the official stadium contract) have also been given the green light. It will stretch back to Argyle Road underneath the railway shunting yards and be topped by a park. A link to adjacent beaches has been proposed.

Details of proposed developments surrounding the new stadium remain sketchy but Ellingson said the King’s Park framework plan has been finalised and submitted to sports federations within the precinct for final comment.

The stadium design allows for a huge amount of versatility. The floor level of the stadium can be raised by about 1,6 metres and retrofitted to form a world-class athletics track at very little cost. This equips the city to bid for the 2014 Commonwealth Games. The stadium can also accommodate most sports (with the exception of cricket) and is integral to an active campaign to attract more international sporting events to Durban.

“The new Senzangakhona Stadium will act as the hub of the Kings’ Park precinct for all the other facilities and initiatives within the province. The new stadium will be an iconic, world-class, multi-purpose stadium.

“We are determined that the benefits of hosting a World Cup event will be long term and that the projects we embark on to get 2010 ready are sustainable and focused on our long-term strategic objectives for eThekwini and for KwaZulu-Natal,” Ndebele said.

Ellingson said the business plan for the stadium centres on affordability and sustainability, including ease of maintenance, to ensure a lifespan of at least 20 years.

After 2010 “should rugby come into the stadium” it would be completely self sufficient. Without rugby, the provincial and local governments will have to subsidise the stadium by R2 million a year.

Local soccer match ticket prices will be extremely affordable — the business plan for King Senzangakhona is based on the current soccer ticket price of R25.

Another important income stream will be hospitality. There are plans for 2 650 hospitality seats in 112 to 120 hospitality suites. However, according to Ellingson, international trends support a move away from private boxes towards large corporate hospitality areas and these have been designed into the stadium.

The stadium will be 270 metres by 320 metres and 45 metres high, with the arch rising to close to 100 metres (just over 30 storeys).

Demolition of the existing stadium is imminent.

Tender documents for the construction of the new stadium should be awarded by the end of October and a main contractor will be appointed towards the end of the year. Some initial earthworks and piling may begin by the first week of December 2006, but the bulk of the work will be undertaken over 32 weeks in 2007 and 2008.

The professional consortium responsible for the final design and construction management for the new stadium is Ibhola Lethu, which is believed to include both German experts and a local black empowerment element.

Mlaba said Durban has plans to welcome the expected World Cup visitors. There are already 8 000 hotel beds within 10 minutes of the grounds, and at least 10 hotels will be built by 2010. “The city’s public transport system [taxis, buses, minibuses and a planned people mover within the city centre] will have the capacity to carry fans to the venues. An integrated plan has been submitted to the treasury for a major upgrade of transport facilities and will be fast-tracked for the World Cup 2010,” he said.

Published: 16 June 2006
Source: The Witness
durban could get the commonwealth games handed to it on a plate if it bids..however south africa is not bidding for the 2014 commonwealth games, we're still apparently supporting nigeria to gain their support for a possible south african olympic bid in future.....

so the stadium won't initially have an athletics track right? basically a platform system allowing it to construct an athletics track if need be...very wembleyish ...and its got arches...all u have to do now is finish this stadium before wembley is completed...hehe

Mo Rush
June 16th, 2006, 12:47 PM
the roof reminds me a curved version of sevilles olympic stadium

http://www.rfea.es/competi/cpeuropasevilla2002/gifs/estadio1.jpg

http://googleglobetrotting.com/thumb/4747.gif

MoreOrLess
June 16th, 2006, 01:15 PM
I like the single arch spilting in two design, 85,000 would be big enough to bid for the Oylimpics aswell.

As for the track I'd say the real problem doesnt come at a WC where people are there for the event more than to get the best possible view but rather from the subsequent use by football clubs.

nosehairuk
June 16th, 2006, 02:00 PM
This is the 1st design attempt.
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/5338/wembleyripoff7gr.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

dysan1
June 16th, 2006, 02:24 PM
^^ u bloody poms always have to say how wonderful wembly is :)...its fine tho, we can do it cheaper here...and i think our location wins hands down.

Yes the looks are similar, but then what stadium these days isnt?? they all serve the same purpose, hence are the same shape.

As for after the world cup...you people obviously dont know how big a crowd we get for local derbys here, be it in rugby or soccer

nosehairuk
June 16th, 2006, 06:04 PM
Yes the looks are similar, but then what stadium these days isnt?? they all serve the same purpose, hence are the same shape.

I would agree with you if they had copyed Wembley seat for seat inside. But the arch is the new symbol of Wembley. Its even the logo. Certainly a better location tho.

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/1864/wembleybadge2eg.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

mauritius gunner
June 16th, 2006, 06:26 PM
Lovely stadium- question is you only have 4 years in which to do it.

Demolishing the old one before building the new one. R1.6B is not a realistic fee either, as it will probably end up being double that with cost over-runs etc

Mo Rush
June 16th, 2006, 10:39 PM
Lovely stadium- question is you only have 4 years in which to do it.

Demolishing the old one before building the new one. R1.6B is not a realistic fee either, as it will probably end up being double that with cost over-runs etc

the stadium will be completed in two years...and no...not every stadium has to go into cost over-runs...just because the stadium looks a bit like wembley (basically just the arch concept)...doesnt mean it has to take twelve years to complete and doesnt mean it has to cost 7 times the amount originally budgeted for...

skaP187
June 17th, 2006, 01:02 PM
A very poor presentation, but it looks promising, don't like the arches that much but that's a matter of tast. I am looking forward seeing more material.

Kampflamm
June 17th, 2006, 01:31 PM
Whoa, a curvy, rounded stadium with a big arch supporting the roof.....where do these guys get their ideas

I guess they got their idea from Athens' Olympic Stadium (which unlike Wembley has two arches...just like this SAfrican stadium) :D

http://www.stadia.gr/oaka/oakaworks39.jpg

Typical English attitude though "Wembley's got an arch, so any stadium which incorporates an arch into its design in the future is a blatant rip-off." ;)

Giorgio
June 17th, 2006, 01:37 PM
Dosnt look like Wembley at all...just British forumers having a stab at it.
I think it looks very nice and if it looks like any stadium, it looks like Athens with abit of emirates thrown in the mix.

Very Promising, especially at night (from what I can imagine).

dysan1
June 17th, 2006, 04:02 PM
A very poor presentation, but it looks promising, don't like the arches that much but that's a matter of tast. I am looking forward seeing more material.

The pics are a scan from the newspaper...

Durbsboi
June 18th, 2006, 12:30 AM
bunch of jealous poms, besides the arch (which is nothing like wembleys) nothing is the same as wembley! plus we can upgrade to 100 000 while wembley is stuck at 90 000, take nothing away from wembley, its a grate stadium but I think that ur'll just a tad bit jealous that ours will be better ;) & ours will host the worlds most prestigous tournoment before wembley.

Oh & we can walk over our arch can ur'll?

Dont worry we will build this stadium in time for the confederations cup, & if my firm has anything to do with this stadium I will ensure that this is top priority!
the old stadiums pitch has been fully dug up, the light pylons are to be dismantled soon , then the bulldozers & recking ball come in!

to 2010 & beyond!
Durban ......... South Africa's playground!
where the fun never sets

Paulo2004
June 18th, 2006, 01:18 AM
All projects are nice.

Mo Rush
June 18th, 2006, 02:12 AM
bunch of jealous poms, besides the arch (which is nothing like wembleys) nothing is the same as wembley! plus we can upgrade to 100 000 while wembley is stuck at 90 000, take nothing away from wembley, its a grate stadium but I think that ur'll just a tad bit jealous that ours will be better ;) & ours will host the worlds most prestigous tournoment before wembley.

Oh & we can walk over our arch can ur'll?

Dont worry we will build this stadium in time for the confederations cup, & if my firm has anything to do with this stadium I will ensure that this is top priority!
the old stadiums pitch has been fully dug up, the light pylons are to be dismantled soon , then the bulldozers & recking ball come in!

to 2010 & beyond!
Durban ......... South Africa's playground!
where the fun never sets
and cape town..the only city that matters...just kidding durbsboi..is ur firm part of the consortium that won?

Aka
June 18th, 2006, 02:24 AM
And if the game turns out to be boring we can all go to the beach!

http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/8021/newstadium7bt.jpg

Giorgio
June 18th, 2006, 09:13 AM
bunch of jealous poms, besides the arch (which is nothing like wembleys) nothing is the same as wembley! plus we can upgrade to 100 000 while wembley is stuck at 90 000, take nothing away from wembley, its a grate stadium but I think that ur'll just a tad bit jealous that ours will be better ;) & ours will host the worlds most prestigous tournoment before wembley.

Oh & we can walk over our arch can ur'll?

Dont worry we will build this stadium in time for the confederations cup, & if my firm has anything to do with this stadium I will ensure that this is top priority!
the old stadiums pitch has been fully dug up, the light pylons are to be dismantled soon , then the bulldozers & recking ball come in!

to 2010 & beyond!
Durban ......... South Africa's playground!
where the fun never sets

Now now, lets not get carried away, How many people think this stadium is better than Wembley?

Aesthetically, Wembley seems better for now, its less generic.

Irish Blood English Heart
June 18th, 2006, 10:42 AM
Come on it looks nothing like Wembley, all stadiums in this day and age share some charecteristics. However to the person so said Wembley cant be expanded beyond 90000 it can, it has extra large seats at the moment, with a normal configuration (if they sort transport out) it could hold 110,000.

Aka
June 18th, 2006, 03:51 PM
If this stadium looks like Wembley, then I'm Michael Jackson. Watch out kids!!!

skaP187
June 18th, 2006, 04:11 PM
The pics are a scan from the newspaper...

Thanks for the effort anyway! there isn't a website or something yet?
I could not find anything with the projectdeveloppersname in google. I gues we'll just have to wait after the WC for that.

dysan1
June 18th, 2006, 06:08 PM
^^ Yeah the city say they providing much more info over the next 2 weeks, where a complete list of all the features of the stadium will be released. Other durban forumers have said that they saw many more images at the presentation, but we do not have access to those yet...give us a week or so and i'm sure we will have them.

dysan1
June 18th, 2006, 06:39 PM
sorry for the quality of this one as well...also out the paper...hope we can get proper renders soon!!

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c128/dysan1/IMGP1599.jpg

Mo Rush
June 18th, 2006, 08:01 PM
sorry for the quality of this one as well...also out the paper...hope we can get proper renders soon!!

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c128/dysan1/IMGP1599.jpg

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/3715/senzangakhona5at.jpg

Durbsboi
June 19th, 2006, 09:58 AM
and cape town..the only city that matters...just kidding durbsboi..is ur firm part of the consortium that won?
Nope we not, but knowing these guys they will always ask other firms to help out with the design & ask for idea's from different engineers on how to build such things, so we might end up helping out in some parts, & as I said if we do end up helping out, it will be TOP PRIORITY!

Durbsboi
June 19th, 2006, 10:15 AM
']Now now, lets not get carried away, How many people think this stadium is better than Wembley?

Aesthetically, Wembley seems better for now, its less generic.

No ones getting carried away, just alittle excited thats all, waited forever to see this design! I think I'm gonna draw it in 3D, but I need internal renderings, as SKpa187 pointed outm there is no website or anything out as yet, so we have to sadly wait.

YES wembley is bigger in size than ours & better, okay

Giorgio
June 19th, 2006, 10:16 AM
:eek:
Beautiful. Very elegant, reminds me of Athens.

The outside reminds me of that stadium ... I think its in Ukriane:
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/9841/shakhtarnew11yw.jpg

Mo Rush
June 19th, 2006, 01:22 PM
']:eek:
Beautiful. Very elegant, reminds me of Athens.

The outside reminds me of that stadium ... I think its in Ukriane:
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/9841/shakhtarnew11yw.jpg
shaktar dontesk new stadium...one of my top ten favourites for stadia, theres this amazing video of the stadium on their website you should check it out...

The Concerned Potato
June 19th, 2006, 06:39 PM
Come on it looks nothing like Wembley, all stadiums in this day and age share some charecteristics. However to the person so said Wembley cant be expanded beyond 90000 it can, it has extra large seats at the moment, with a normal configuration (if they sort transport out) it could hold 110,000.


extra large seats for fatcats with extra large arses ;)

skaP187
June 19th, 2006, 07:07 PM
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha are you lots that fat in the UK? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargghhhhhhh !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Irish Blood English Heart
June 20th, 2006, 08:37 AM
No its to do with comfort but mainly that they only got planning permission for 90k because of transport issues, its a clever way that it can be expanded in the future when they sort the transport out.

skaP187
June 20th, 2006, 02:16 PM
aaaaaaaaahhhhh so no fat asses! that a same i like fat (lady) asses

JimB
June 20th, 2006, 02:42 PM
I guess they got their idea from Athens' Olympic Stadium (which unlike Wembley has two arches...just like this SAfrican stadium) :D

http://www.stadia.gr/oaka/oakaworks39.jpg

Typical English attitude though "Wembley's got an arch, so any stadium which incorporates an arch into its design in the future is a blatant rip-off." ;)

Nonsense, Kampflamm.

The functional elements of Calatrava's Athens arches are different to Foster's Wembley arch. And, at a brief glance, the functional elements of Durban's arches are similar to Wembley's.

So those who point out the similarities do have a valid point.

However, the Durban project has enough that is original and aesthetically pleasing (and certainly a great location) that it merits praise in its own right. Besides, I don't really see why it should matter or why some Wembley aficionados should complain if there are elements of Wembley's design that have been borrowed by Durban. It is the sincerest from of flattery. And Foster, too, will have borrowed from other stadias when designing Wembley.

Durbsboi
June 20th, 2006, 02:54 PM
Exactly, if we did "copy" wembley, its merely telling you how great your work of art is that others borrow its ingenius idea.

Mo Rush
June 20th, 2006, 03:29 PM
i think i remember giorgios saying the arches which actually hold the roof up are afterthoughts.??? if u compare it to the athens olympic stadium.the arches dont do anything..the roof and arches were just rolled on afterwards...so yeah i think id call that an afterthought..

Giorgio
June 20th, 2006, 03:37 PM
i think i remember giorgios saying the arches which actually hold the roof up are afterthoughts.??? if u compare it to the athens olympic stadium.the arches dont do anything..the roof and arches were just rolled on afterwards...so yeah i think id call that an afterthought..
Stop pulliong shit from your ass please.
The roof is entirely suspended from the archs (however it does also rest on the steal tubing underneath).

The Archs are functonal in Athens. Durbans seriously could do without them.

Also, The roof wasnt built with the archs placed afterwoods...stop trying to degarde athens constantly.

As you should be able to see...its suspended from the giant archs:
http://www.bayer.co.jp/bgj/newsfile/athens_makrolon.jpg
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/2902/stadiumnightp15ey.jpg

Now comeon, leave the crap and stop trying to degrade other stadiums just because this other stadium has Superfluous features.

Mo Rush
June 20th, 2006, 04:22 PM
']Stop pulliong shit from your ass please.
The roof is entirely suspended from the archs (however it does also rest on the steal tubing underneath).

The Archs are functonal in Athens. Durbans seriously could do without them.

Also, The roof wasnt built with the archs placed afterwoods...stop trying to degarde athens constantly.

As you should be able to see...its suspended from the giant archs:
http://www.bayer.co.jp/bgj/newsfile/athens_makrolon.jpg
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/2902/stadiumnightp15ey.jpg

Now comeon, leave the crap and stop trying to degrade other stadiums just because this other stadium has Superfluous features.
dude chill..my emphasis was on the "Afterthought " part as in adding the roof or arches afterwards...not on the quality of the athens stadium...see..rolll roof onto stadium "afterwards"...sheesh

Giorgio
June 21st, 2006, 07:45 AM
dude chill..my emphasis was on the "Afterthought " part as in adding the roof or arches afterwards...not on the quality of the athens stadium...see..rolll roof onto stadium "afterwards"...sheesh
Athens has nothing to do with the thread and you claim that the roof is an afterthough (get a grip).:crazy:

Just an attempt for you to shoot down Athens for no reason at all.
As I said, and im sure many people agree with me, The Archs look pretty stupid on Senzangakhona Stadium, asif they were just added in an attempt to enhance the stadium.

As for Athens, Its the largest suspended roof in the world for godsake!

Rooves arnt afterthoughts, archs that look ridiculously generic are.

You just need to get your facts right before you post pure dribble.

Durbsboi
June 21st, 2006, 09:25 AM
Oh for fuck sake, not this shit again! the arch is their for a reason! Not only does it, suspend the matriel/canvas roof covering but its also the "iconic" part of the stadium.
If you read any of the articles relating to the stadium, you will see the significance for the arch, not only will it house a skywalk for the people to view the city in 360 degree views & a conference center at the top, but the shape is very import to SA, the Y simbolising the unity of our new country , where 2 parts become 1!

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/189/kingsenza11lf.jpg
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/7544/kingsenza24ho.jpg

Now stop this shit!

www.sercan.de
June 21st, 2006, 09:29 AM
does anybody have interios pics?
maybe it has got 3 tiers :cheers:

Durbsboi
June 21st, 2006, 09:34 AM
I'm pretty sure it has 3 tiers, I have drawn the stadium in 3D with the renders that were made available, but my interior is a total guess & is not how its really going to be, but my guess could be right. Not sure :dunno:
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/9746/kingsenza38sp.jpg

www.sercan.de
June 21st, 2006, 09:44 AM
great renders Durbsboi :runaway:
which program dou you use?
is it easy?
you know it better
but it can be thze 1st complete 3rd tier stadium??!!

Durbsboi
June 21st, 2006, 09:52 AM
Auto CAD 2007 :D
It is easy once you get to know it,
Know your short cuts & its a breeze ;)

What you mean by the first complete 3rd tier stadium?

www.sercan.de
June 21st, 2006, 10:07 AM
are there stadiums in S. Africa with 3 tiers (sorry, i said 3rd :( )

Durbsboi
June 21st, 2006, 11:15 AM
Uhh let me think? yeh kings park is kinda 3 tier, well if count private boxes as a tier then yeh we got plenty, but if you mean 3 tier fully public seating then no.

www.sercan.de
June 21st, 2006, 11:28 AM
so it can be really one of the few full 3 tier stadiums in the world :cheers:
even Bernabeu is not full 3 tier :D

Mo Rush
June 21st, 2006, 12:29 PM
']Athens has nothing to do with the thread and you claim that the roof is an afterthough (get a grip).:crazy:

Just an attempt for you to shoot down Athens for no reason at all.
As I said, and im sure many people agree with me, The Archs look pretty stupid on Senzangakhona Stadium, asif they were just added in an attempt to enhance the stadium.

As for Athens, Its the largest suspended roof in the world for godsake!

Rooves arnt afterthoughts, archs that look ridiculously generic are.

You just need to get your facts right before you post pure dribble.
again was honestly not an attempt to bring down athens...u need to be less sensitive about this stuff..we both know we dont wanna get into an athens vs "any other city" talk...

Mo Rush
June 21st, 2006, 12:30 PM
ah the unity of 2 becoming one...lol

Giorgio
June 22nd, 2006, 01:02 PM
again was honestly not an attempt to bring down athens...u need to be less sensitive about this stuff..we both know we dont wanna get into an athens vs "any other city" talk...
If you really wanted that you would never have started it.
Hypocracy is so ugly.

Mo Rush
June 22nd, 2006, 01:13 PM
']If you really wanted that you would never have started it.
Hypocracy is so ugly.
again there was no hidden agenda...i will never again mention athens or its stadium as it is clearly as it always has been a touchy subject moving along.

Durban to bid for 2016 Olympics
22/06/2006 08:04 - (SA)

Durban - Durban is being touted as the next city to host the 2016 Olympic Games.

Launching the city's Durban Beach Africa beach festival on Wednesday evening, the city's deputy mayor, Logie Naidoo, said: "We believe that the 2016 Olympic Games should come to Durban. Cape Town has had its chance. It's time for Durban to bid for this biggest of events."

No decision has, however, been made by the city's executive council, he said.

He cited Durban's facilities and the recent announcement that a R1.6bn stadium is to be built next to the Sharks' rugby stadium in preparation for the 2010 Soccer World Cup.

"2010 will be an important year, but we have always said 2010 and beyond."

Speaking after the press launch of the festival, Naidoo said that if Durban did make a bid for the Olympic Games, it stood a very good chance with South African and former National Olympic Committee president Sam Ramsamy being a member of the executive board of the International Olympic Committee.

Ramsamy hails from Durban.

The 2012 Olympics are to be held in London.

Cape Town had bid to stage the 2004 Olympics but lost out to the eventual winner Athens.

Giorgio
June 22nd, 2006, 01:15 PM
I was talking to a South African friend the other day and she says that Durban is a small city. Whats the population?

Mo Rush
June 22nd, 2006, 01:22 PM
']I was talking to a South African friend the other day and she says that Durban is a small city. Whats the population?
ur friend has issues..its 2.5 million the second largest south african city 2.354 million in the metropolitan area prob much larger in 2016, cape town is about 2.7 million in the city.. and just over 3 million as an urban area.

Durbsboi
June 23rd, 2006, 10:03 AM
Here's some more pics from the newspaper. It's going to be qute a dramatic feature on the city's beachfront skyline!

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/526/stadiumnight7qv.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/4426/stadiuminterior5vt.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

posted by GregPz in the Durban thread

Durbsboi
June 23rd, 2006, 11:09 AM
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/5537/10wp6.jpg

http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/8966/22sg.jpg

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/8564/31ua2.jpg

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/5329/45xb.jpg

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/1414/53qz.jpg

dysan1
June 23rd, 2006, 01:39 PM
ur friend has issues..its 2.5 million the second largest south african city 2.354 million in the metropolitan area prob much larger in 2016, cape town is about 2.7 million in the city.. and just over 3 million as an urban area.


Actually durbans official population is 3,55m in the metro...

www.sercan.de
June 23rd, 2006, 01:42 PM
Durbsboi
what dou you think?
it looks like a 3 tier stadium?!!

dysan1
June 23rd, 2006, 01:48 PM
Mr Giorgos...

I do feel that as much as u like to say others are attacking poor athens, you spend an awfully large amount of time discreditting so many other places yourself.

Now please, enough with all the sideline sandbox fights, and focus on the real issue of this thread, the new stadium.

The arch is integral to the stadium. Some may say afterthought, but if they actually read clearly, and looked carefully, they wld see that the roof needs the stadium to stay up, so that there are no pillars blocking ones view.

Secondly, the arch serves as an entertainment and viewing venue for the city of Durban, which will provide an addtional tourist attraction to compliment the cities many others.

The shape of the arch was designed to resemble the world reknowned South African flag, which further localises the project.

The gaps at either end of the stadium act as entry points, for the city planned that the A1 (bid for F1) grand prix could go thru the stadium, for the existing street curciut runs next to the stadium site.

All these aspects have been carefully thought thru and the arch is integral to this process.

Durbsboi
June 25th, 2006, 12:14 AM
Durbsboi
what dou you think?
it looks like a 3 tier stadium?!!
Most certainly is a e tier!

dANIEL2004
June 25th, 2006, 12:35 AM
An immitation of Calatrava stadium in Athens...The design of Athens stadium began a new era for the stadium roof designs (dont misunderstand my words, I m talking only about the style of the roof and not the whole stadium) and now this one follow these steps.
Look at the arches and compare:

http://www.stadia.gr/oaka/oakaworks33.jpg

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/1414/53qz.jpg

In other words....when before the Athens Olympic Stadium, a stadium had any white arch on the roof? Never before.

Durbsboi
June 26th, 2006, 10:20 AM
Cant recall any stadiums, but I'm sure they should be some, but anyway, we are going to be using a tapolien/material roof sheeting as to athens glass.

pompeyfan
June 26th, 2006, 10:22 AM
i bet Durbsboi is a fan of this stadium.

Durbsboi
June 26th, 2006, 10:23 AM
I am a fan of most stadiums (including athens)

pompeyfan
June 26th, 2006, 10:25 AM
yeah

dysan1
June 26th, 2006, 08:05 PM
love how we permanently get told that its ripping off wembley and the athens one...i bet u one day someone will say ur ripping off a stadium if you use the same colour for the seats or the handles are the same, or they used a blue athletics track

dANIEL2004
June 26th, 2006, 08:21 PM
If you are one of the 2% of people who think that some stadiums are similar cause of the colour of the seats or the track, then you are Homer Simpson.

Durbsboi
June 27th, 2006, 09:32 AM
^^Eat my shorts

Giorgio
June 27th, 2006, 10:26 AM
Calm down guys.

Regardless of whether this stadium ripped of Athens or Wembley, who cares? It looks nice.

Personally, I think it looks nothing like wembley but I think it looks like Athens with the archs however I love the Athens archs which means I love these archs...

Theres really no need for this at all and if anything, both peoples should be happy that they look alike coz there both bloody nice looking stadiums...

dysan1
June 28th, 2006, 12:08 AM
yeh i dont have a problem with people comparing, they always will. but as with any stadium it has its own unique elements which will distinguish it from all the others...and the location, ease of access to the beach and hotels, and city views from the stands are big plus signs

Durbsboi
June 28th, 2006, 08:13 AM
^^Eat my shorts



']Calm down guys.

Regardless of whether this stadium ripped of Athens or Wembley, who cares? It looks nice.

Personally, I think it looks nothing like wembley but I think it looks like Athens with the archs however I love the Athens archs which means I love these archs...

Theres really no need for this at all and if anything, both peoples should be happy that they look alike coz there both bloody nice looking stadiums...

nah relax man, that was just a joke, he said homer simpson so Bart say's "Eat my shorts" all the time.

pompeyfan
June 29th, 2006, 02:32 AM
nice stadium

skaP187
June 29th, 2006, 12:19 PM
Eat my shorts?

Durbsboi
June 29th, 2006, 12:55 PM
did you ever watch simpsons?

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/amgosai/lghr0148.jpg

GregPz
June 30th, 2006, 01:56 PM
Here's some better quality pics :)

http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/7349/stadiumns11mv.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/3157/stadiumns23ge.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/748/stadiumns39px.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Enzo911
June 30th, 2006, 02:44 PM
http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/8966/22sg.jpg




:hahaha: :hahaha:


http://213.162.200.230/images/noticias/051201-FOTOS-PROYEC-02.jpg

Enzo911
June 30th, 2006, 02:45 PM
What are doing this valencian people in Durban?

Nice stadium

skaP187
June 30th, 2006, 06:49 PM
But what's up with a posseble racetrack running through the stadium?

Durbsboi
July 3rd, 2006, 03:36 PM
What are doing this valencian people in Durban?

Nice stadium
Dont you know that Valencia has a strong link to Durban & the 2 cities are keep very close ties?

Mo Rush
July 3rd, 2006, 06:14 PM
Dont you know that Valencia has a strong link to Durban & the 2 cities are keep very close ties?
they are keep close tie? when since?

Durbsboi
July 4th, 2006, 11:31 AM
I'm talking shit, he was refering to the flags in the render of the stadium, I was just pulling his leg

Mo Rush
July 4th, 2006, 02:52 PM
I'm talking shit, he was refering to the flags in the render of the stadium, I was just pulling his leg
i know..

Durbsboi
July 5th, 2006, 09:44 AM
Maybe Valencia will play Bafoona Bafoona in the first game the stadium will hold?

skaP187
July 5th, 2006, 11:03 AM
But what's up with a posseble racetrack running through the stadium?

Yeah I am hard to egnore... and I am just starting with quoting myself.
But is it true? a racetrack (temporarely) through the stadium, cool! any drawings about that ?

Mo Rush
July 6th, 2006, 01:37 AM
either im seeing things...the playing field is below ground level?.. so will the grand prix cars go down some ramp into the stadium?

Durbsboi
July 6th, 2006, 09:33 AM
No one said its deffinate that the GP cars will go to the stadium, & the pitch level could be on ground level or maybe elevated a bit, if you look carefully the whole stadium is elevated on the parking, to that render of the people walking in the back, they are walking on the top level of the paking area which has a ramp leading down to that garden thing. So no I dont think the pitch will be below road level
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/amgosai/stadiumns39px.jpg

dysan1
August 20th, 2006, 07:23 PM
So with the old stadium demolished, and piling starting in October, things are moving very well on this one!

Mo Rush
August 20th, 2006, 07:36 PM
So with the old stadium demolished, and piling starting in October, things are moving very well on this one!
thanks for reviving this thread.

tocino
August 21st, 2006, 12:22 AM
Come on it looks nothing like Wembley, all stadiums in this day and age share some charecteristics. However to the person so said Wembley cant be expanded beyond 90000 it can, it has extra large seats at the moment, with a normal configuration (if they sort transport out) it could hold 110,000.

You are correct. It looks a lot different than new Wembley. It's funny we have some posters complaining the Africans are copying Wembley while they are conspicuously silent about Arsenal's blatent copyright infringement of Benfica's Estadio da Luz.

Durbsboi
August 21st, 2006, 12:08 PM
If you drive along NMR Ave, everything still looks the same, BUT if you drive along Walter Gilbert Rd, theres nothing left! the old stadium has vanished! its below road level! they've done a good job & blody fast! I'd say give a few weeks before everything is cleared up then pilin will begin!

Abdi
August 21st, 2006, 02:33 PM
You are correct. It looks a lot different than new Wembley. It's funny we have some posters complaining the Africans are copying Wembley while they are conspicuously silent about Arsenal's blatent copyright infringement of Benfica's Estadio da Luz.

whats wrong with you how many times do we have to say to you arsenal had the design done way before their stadium plan.

skaP187
August 21st, 2006, 04:18 PM
yeah right.... they just waited to see how it looked in real, so they could deside yes or no when they said it in real, gtfooh

dysan1
October 14th, 2006, 11:51 PM
Hey guys the Piling rigs are in and they have been at it for a week now. DB u got any pics? or should i get some tomorrow? The stadium committee said they are ahead of schedule and construction on the main stadium will start end of november/early dec once the piling is complete, way ahead of the end of Jan 2007 plan...

Well done!! now lets see all the cranes on it!

dysan1
October 15th, 2006, 12:03 AM
Just adding the overall dev plan that DB posted in the WC thread

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/5589/pg4ua4.jpg

pompeyfan
October 15th, 2006, 12:10 AM
wow

Harkeb
October 17th, 2006, 05:46 AM
Brillaint idea to connect the stadium with the beach. This will be a huge construction site once in full swing.

Durbsboi
October 17th, 2006, 10:37 AM
Dysan, any idea on what they gonna do with the old motor cross track across the road? bcos its pretty much filled with sand from the stadium.

dysan1
October 20th, 2006, 02:21 PM
^^ hey the old moto cross track is to be the site of the cities new tennis arena and complex. planning is at an advanced stage. some of the land will be used for the film city complex too, with linkages between the two developments.

It will provide a centre court and 15 additional courts at this stage of planning

Mo Rush
October 20th, 2006, 02:52 PM
^^ hey the old moto cross track is to be the site of the cities new tennis arena and complex. planning is at an advanced stage. some of the land will be used for the film city complex too, with linkages between the two developments.

It will provide a centre court and 15 additional courts at this stage of planning

this is excellent, existing courts at greenpoint will also be upgraded and include a new centre courts with 15-20 additional courts, two great sporting precincts will really benefit both cities.

Durbsboi
October 23rd, 2006, 01:20 PM
At least we will hav a decent court for the Davis cup then

Mo Rush
October 23rd, 2006, 07:30 PM
At least we will hav a decent court for the Davis cup then
well SAA the official airlines of the ATP are trying to bring an ATP event back to CT at a new tennis venue in greenpoint...Durban would also put forth proposals...they are leaning towards cape town though.

dysan1
October 23rd, 2006, 08:07 PM
^^ i dont see how they are "leaning towards cape town" when the event starts in durban next year...

Mo Rush
October 23rd, 2006, 08:36 PM
^^ i dont see how they are "leaning towards cape town" when the event starts in durban next year...
i was referring to the ATP tournament the SAA are hoping to bring back to RSA ...

dysan1
October 24th, 2006, 02:56 PM
^^ yeh and the SA open next year is sponsered by SAA and is the precurser to the event reaching atp status instead of the challenger status. for the event to be held in durban for the next 3 years surely is a sign that thats where they want it? they would surely prepare in CT if they wanted it there...esp when u dont even have the needed tennis facilities.

dysan1
March 22nd, 2007, 11:39 PM
OK guys...here's a long overdue update from Durbs

1894 piles have been shoved in the ground.
The bases of the arches have been completed.
2 cranes are up.

And construction is well underway. She shall start to rise soon! Pics ASAP, will only show the cranes tho at this point.


Afripile lays a solid foundation

Barbara Cole

A unique concrete pumping machine has been used for the first time in the country at Durban’s new soccer stadium site. The special system which pumps concrete up through the middle of the drill bit faster than other methods, has been specially imported by Afripile, the Phoenix (Durban) based company which has been doing the piling at the main Durban stadium since October. Afripile have bought 9 of these machines.

The piling operation has just ended and the equipment is now on its way to the next job: a soccer stadium in Nelspruit, another venue for the 2010 Soccer World Cup.

About 328 tons of steel and 25 000 tons of concrete have been used on the job with a total of 1894 piles driven into the foundations. The Group5/WBHO/Pandev consortium started the earthworks last weeks.

KZN premier S’bu Ndebele and city manager Dr Mike Sutcliffe visited the stadium site recently with a delegation from Italy – the reigning world champions. Italy is considering using Durban as the base for its team during the 2010 world cup.

Durbsboi
March 23rd, 2007, 10:17 AM
& theres 3 BIG cranes up on site.

Mo Rush
March 23rd, 2007, 02:29 PM
& theres 3 BIG cranes up on site.

dont believe u...

dysan1
March 24th, 2007, 12:16 AM
DB...show him your big crane

Juanl
March 24th, 2007, 12:47 PM
Durban name changes reach Point of no return

March 23 2007 at 12:15PM

By Hlobisile Mbokazi and Heinz De Boer

Durban has taken the next step in renaming its first batch of roads at a walk-about in the city centre.

Mayor Obed Mlaba and a procession of ANC councillors, dignitaries and the media are expected at the official unveiling of the names that will culminate with a bash at the Inkosi Albert Luthuli International Convention Centre (ICC) on Friday

On Saturday the new R2,4-billion 2010 stadium will be officially named the Moses Mabhida Stadium.

'We are not changing every street name'
The eight prominent roads identified for renaming, which include the M4, Point Road and Victoria Embankment, had their new road signs posted earlier this week.

The ceremony rounds off a political renaming process that has from the outset been fraught with controversy, with the Democratic Alliance claiming the public participation process was flawed.

The council's ANC majority, however, approved the two-stage renaming process, making the renaming of more than 200 Durban streets a reality.

Deputy Mayor Logie Naidoo said: "We are not changing every street name. We have chosen great freedom fighters to reflect our political history."

On Friday the council will launch its public awareness campaign aimed at sensitising the public to the personalities who are now reflected on the new street name boards.

The first fact file details the life of Albert Luthuli, who joined the ANC in 1945. He was elected as the Natal provincial president of the organisation in 1951. In 1946, he joined the Natives Representative Council and in 1952 helped lead the Defiance Campaign.

Mo Rush
March 24th, 2007, 03:14 PM
Moses Mabhida stadium. Oh dear.

Juanl
March 24th, 2007, 07:24 PM
That's what I said, Mo! Seems like every second Tom Dick and Harry in this country is going to be honoured in this way. I can just see the headlines now... "Moses delivers the testimony" Who was he/she anyways? And another thing, would someone mind starting a thread on Soccer City? For us Jo'burgers? I hear things are going swell there. They building a cement processing plant there and everything. Wish I knew more though!!!

Durbsboi
March 26th, 2007, 10:24 AM
I hate this fucking shit, honestly, the boards are changed on site, WHY O WHY!

dysan1
March 27th, 2007, 08:17 PM
Well...i liked King Senz...but IFP will march since the zulu's are being sidelined.

Mo...we still dont have the name of the Cape Town Stadium. Since the Durban council were going to call the present durban airport Moses Mabinda, and changed it to the stadium. Maybe they will do the same in cape town and call it the La Guuma stadium...

Mo Rush
March 27th, 2007, 09:04 PM
Well...i liked King Senz...but IFP will march since the zulu's are being sidelined.

Mo...we still dont have the name of the Cape Town Stadium. Since the Durban council were going to call the present durban airport Moses Mabinda, and changed it to the stadium. Maybe they will do the same in cape town and call it the La Guuma stadium...

I doubt the private operator will agree.

Durbsboi
March 28th, 2007, 09:48 AM
ROFL! Laguma stadium :rofl:

Durbsboi
March 28th, 2007, 09:50 AM
DB...show him your big crane

My big what?

dysan1
March 28th, 2007, 09:28 PM
^^ Haha

and mo...blah blah blah. To you only odd things happen to cities outside of cape town

dysan1
April 14th, 2007, 03:24 PM
Cranes up. 4 at the moment. 12 in months ahead. Bases of the arch are complete


http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k59/DURBAN2010/STADDURBANBUILD.jpg

Juanl
April 14th, 2007, 04:04 PM
Can just imagine see it now! Cityscpae in the background, beachfront at its doorstep... A truly spectacular scene come 2010 (minus the name ofcourse- maybe they can call it MM Stadium for short!)

Mo Rush
April 14th, 2007, 04:49 PM
Cranes up. 4 at the moment. 12 in months ahead. Bases of the arch are complete


http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k59/DURBAN2010/STADDURBANBUILD.jpg

whats beneath the sand?

Mo's stadium sounds just fine. Still trying to pull together R260 million to lease Cape Town's stadium, but its not looking good.

dysan1
April 14th, 2007, 04:52 PM
1900 piles. all completed. foundations are done. everything can now rise

Durbsboi
April 16th, 2007, 10:03 AM
Well an Important point to note is that Durban has clear days like that almost everyday, I mean today in the morn, it was cloudy & overcast, but now, bright & sunny as ever. Gotto luv Durbs

Juanl
April 16th, 2007, 09:03 PM
Not going to start the weather brawl again are we? Because then Jo'burg would have to be the winner

Durbsboi
April 17th, 2007, 08:54 AM
^^LOL, no no, no more weather brawling. The stadium is starting to rise slowley, with support columns for the 1st level starting to rise about a meter above ground.

dysan1
April 19th, 2007, 11:15 PM
Steps forward are being taken on the Cable car over the arch

Cable car over 2010 stadium
April 18, 2007 Edition 1


PLANS are afoot to put a cable car over the landmark arch on the city's new soccer stadium, Julie-May Ellingson, head of the city's strategic projects department, revealed yesterday.

The cable car would ferry tourists to the top of the arch, while people wanting to walk up would use the opposite side, representatives of the tourism industry heard at the first Tourism Association Mini Conference.

The cable car proposal still has to go before the council, she said later.

The city was also hoping to get an additional Soccer World Cup match, which would bring the total to seven games and a semi-final.

And some time in the next six weeks, an information centre would go up at the stadium site, where people could check on the progress from a viewing deck.

"We are leading the rest of the country in terms of the stadium … We will deliver the best World Cup ever," Ellingson promised.

dysan1
May 19th, 2007, 12:42 PM
The cable car, we are told, will have pods very similar to those on the london eye.


Here is another new shot of the stadium from the ocean, thanx to p2bsa for it.

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k59/DURBAN2010/MosesMabhidaDurbanNight.jpg

dysan1
May 19th, 2007, 12:43 PM
And here are some shots showing the cranes at work. There are 8 immobile cranes up at present and close on 20 mobile ones. The stadium next door is the ABSA Stadium, the host of the rubgy Super 14 Final Tonight!! Sharks better win!

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c128/dysan1/IMGP6049.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c128/dysan1/IMGP6050.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c128/dysan1/IMGP6052.jpg

Mo Rush
May 19th, 2007, 02:47 PM
thanks for finding this...maybe the thread needs to be renamed

Mo Rush
May 19th, 2007, 02:59 PM
Older images:

Not sure if they have been added here yet

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/senz3.jpg
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/senz4.jpghttp://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/senz2.jpg
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/senz.jpg

CharlieP
May 19th, 2007, 09:02 PM
King's Park looked fantastic for the Super 14 final today (what a finish, eh?) - why can't they just continue the largest side stand around both ends to make a 65,000 capacity stadium rather than building a brand new one next door?

Mo Rush
May 19th, 2007, 11:38 PM
King's Park looked fantastic for the Super 14 final today (what a finish, eh?) - why can't they just continue the largest side stand around both ends to make a 65,000 capacity stadium rather than building a brand new one next door?

because durban will bid for the olympic games.

dysan1
May 20th, 2007, 03:04 PM
King's Park looked fantastic for the Super 14 final today (what a finish, eh?) - why can't they just continue the largest side stand around both ends to make a 65,000 capacity stadium rather than building a brand new one next door?

Kings park is also an old venue. the city have plans to demolish it within the next 10 years and use the site for a relocated tennis centre...that could cause massive anger

Mo Rush
May 20th, 2007, 03:45 PM
Kings park is also an old venue. the city have plans to demolish it within the next 10 years and use the site for a relocated tennis centre...that could cause massive anger

the same might happen if newlands is replaced with apartments/office park

TEBC
May 20th, 2007, 11:54 PM
any new construction pics?

CharlieP
May 21st, 2007, 12:05 PM
Kings park is also an old venue. the city have plans to demolish it within the next 10 years and use the site for a relocated tennis centre...that could cause massive anger

Would that mean the Sharks playing at an 80,000-seat stadium with a running track? :ohno:

dysan1
May 21st, 2007, 01:14 PM
Would that mean the Sharks playing at an 80,000-seat stadium with a running track? :ohno:

sadly it is looking like a possiblility. but as i said, nothing has been planned yet. obviously the city would want the sharks in the new stadium, however its debatable as if the sharks would agree to move. whatever happens tho, it will not happen before 2011

Joop20
May 21st, 2007, 05:33 PM
sadly it is looking like a possiblility. but as i said, nothing has been planned yet. obviously the city would want the sharks in the new stadium, however its debatable as if the sharks would agree to move. whatever happens tho, it will not happen before 2011

Sadly? Would that not be a great thing? The new stadium will have retractable seating right, like stade de france? This is what stade de france looks like for a rugby game, imagine that in Durban!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b7/Rugby_match_from_French_Wikipedia.jpg


:cheers:

Mo Rush
May 21st, 2007, 06:57 PM
I'm not sure it would be a retractable seating system using air cushions like that of stade de france, but yes it would def be able to host athletics and football with ease.

CharlieP
May 21st, 2007, 07:39 PM
A little on the big side for run-of-the-mill Currie Cup games, though...?

Mo Rush
May 21st, 2007, 08:00 PM
A little on the big side for run-of-the-mill Currie Cup games, though...?

50,000 capacity after the world cup

CharlieP
May 21st, 2007, 09:16 PM
50,000 capacity after the world cup

What about the Olympic bid you mentioned upthread?

Durbsboi
May 22nd, 2007, 10:29 AM
^^Then they'll up grade to 100 000, just like Stadium Australia, they can remove the side rooves & add the 2 stands again, theis stadium will be able to add a 3rd tier............. I think

CharlieP
May 22nd, 2007, 02:02 PM
You put your temp tier in
Take your temp tier out
In, out, in, out and shake it al about... :D

dysan1
May 22nd, 2007, 11:34 PM
^^ haha. Yeah i'm not so sure about the retractable seating. i'm not too clued up on all those finer details. I'm beginning to think tho that reducing it to 50 000 will be too small tho.

And yes the way the city asked for it to be designed is that it can be reduced from 70 000 to 50 000 and then increased to 100 000 when the need arises. they had many things they said they simply had to include to stand durban in good stead for their olympic or commonwealth ambitions

dysan1
May 22nd, 2007, 11:36 PM
Sadly? Would that not be a great thing? The new stadium will have retractable seating right, like stade de france? This is what stade de france looks like for a rugby game, imagine that in Durban!

Sad because Kings Park has a long history as a rugby venue, and as the shark tank it is the proud home of the sharks rugby team. alot of history will be lost if they move. at the end of the day it is most likely that they will be "encouraged" to move, and their stadium will make way for a new tennis centre.

Mo Rush
May 23rd, 2007, 12:39 AM
^^ haha. Yeah i'm not so sure about the retractable seating. i'm not too clued up on all those finer details. I'm beginning to think tho that reducing it to 50 000 will be too small tho.

And yes the way the city asked for it to be designed is that it can be reduced from 70 000 to 50 000 and then increased to 100 000 when the need arises. they had many things they said they simply had to include to stand durban in good stead for their olympic or commonwealth ambitions

while the stadium can accommodate 100,000, 80,000 is adequate for olympic games, and 50,000 for the commies. a platform athletics track built over the football field is more than adequate although images suggest that an athletics track would exist with or without the extra seating..maybe the telstra stadium system will be used

Durbsboi
May 23rd, 2007, 10:13 AM
You put your temp tier in
Take your temp tier out
In, out, in, out and shake it al about... :D

lol

dysan1
June 7th, 2007, 11:06 PM
Hope these pics meet all your desires. I took these today showing the development of this stadium on a good sunny winter Durban day

Taken from NMR avenue (south looking north)

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c128/dysan1/IMGP6117.jpg

Taken from Kings Park Aquatic centre (east looking west)

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c128/dysan1/IMGP6120copy.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c128/dysan1/IMGP6123.jpg

Taken from Virgin Active Kings Park (north looking south)

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c128/dysan1/IMGP6135copy.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c128/dysan1/IMGP6134.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c128/dysan1/IMGP6133.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c128/dysan1/IMGP6132copy.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c128/dysan1/IMGP6131.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c128/dysan1/IMGP6130.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c128/dysan1/IMGP6128copy.jpg

dysan1
June 7th, 2007, 11:16 PM
hopefully the above pictures will show the doubters exactly what is on the go with the Durban stadium. it is well underway and is 8 months into construction already.

The footings for the arch are complete, all piling was complete ages ago, and the columns are visible for every passerby to see...as are the 8 cranes, with 2 more set to rise soon and a total of 12 to be up by year end

Mo Rush
June 7th, 2007, 11:41 PM
A much needed update Add to 2010 FIFA World Cup Thread
thanks

dysan1
June 12th, 2007, 04:33 PM
cranes 9 and 10 are rising this afternoon, so reaching the full 12 cranes is not far off now and work is really buzzing and well ahead of schedule. lets hope both durban and cape town can keep this pace up.

MikeTheGreek
June 13th, 2007, 01:59 PM
Is it gonna be a monumantal stadium?

Durbsboi
June 14th, 2007, 10:20 AM
Well they did want to be "Iconic"

Today I spotted massive side decking sheets, looks like the starting to cast retaining walls :banana:

dysan1
June 14th, 2007, 12:08 PM
i think 12 cranes on one site is monumental... and 70 000 seats with a 100m high arch with cablecars going over it is impressive

Mo Rush
June 14th, 2007, 01:53 PM
yeah its meant to be iconic. durbs needs that

kulani
June 18th, 2007, 01:44 AM
Getting up close and personal with Durban's 2010 stadium

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1195/561359885_81e281d903_b.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1224/560864382_987a7b4047_b.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1409/561380149_9088f3a53d_b.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1148/560885686_32a1d56713_b.jpg

nearby Absa stadium

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1365/561230793_7e6908c2a1_b.jpg

black and white pictures of Durban's 2010 stadium

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1063/561251271_ab5be9790f_b.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1329/560840940_ccc69ca4d8_b.jpg

Mo Rush
June 18th, 2007, 02:55 AM
Photographer: Chris Bloom

dysan1
July 3rd, 2007, 04:35 PM
ok guys here are some images of the 12 cranes that are now on site!

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c128/dysan1/12cranepano.jpg

the sandy area in the foreground is where the train station is to be built. as you can see its not right on top of the stadium.

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c128/dysan1/IMGP6218.jpg

Amish in SP
July 5th, 2007, 02:18 AM
An immitation of Calatrava stadium in Athens...The design of Athens stadium began a new era for the stadium roof designs (dont misunderstand my words, I m talking only about the style of the roof and not the whole stadium) and now this one follow these steps.
Look at the arches and compare:

http://www.stadia.gr/oaka/oakaworks33.jpg

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/1414/53qz.jpg

In other words....when before the Athens Olympic Stadium, a stadium had any white arch on the roof? Never before.

Daniel, Oscar niemeyer projected the national stadium in Rio De Janeiro in 1940 with ARC, and had 300m

this design is so exceeded


from 40´s

dysan1
August 1st, 2007, 11:14 AM
Tender given for world's longest arches
The Mercury, August 01, 2007 Edition 1
Colleen Dardagan

DURBAN's 2010 organisers may be disappointed they lost the bid to host the World Cup International Broadcasting Centre, but they're not losing any sleep over it.

Plans to build a journalist village to serve the city is now on the cards and a R448 million tender award to construct the arches for the Moses Mabhida Stadium was announced last week.

"Obviously we are disappointed, but it's not the end of the world," said the Head of Strategic Projects at the eThekwini Municipality, Julie-May Ellingson. "We've already made a decision to build a smaller facility where journalists can get information about the city and the province.

"Because of the information communications technology platform, which already exists, the venue will probably still be the old drive-in site - but that hasn't been formalised yet."

Cape Town and Durban lost out to Johannesburg in the final bid to host the R1 billion broadcasting centre, which was announced by the cabinet last week. No reasons were given as to why Johannesburg was the preferred choice.

However, a statement by Danny Jordaan that there were still numerous other activities for which venues had to be awarded and that Durban had already won the rights to host the Preliminary Draw in November, would indicate that Fifa is attempting to spread the benefits around.

"We still have to award the venue for the World Cup Final Draw, the Fifa congress and many other events," he said.

Meanwhile, Durban has awarded the construction contract for the 2 400-ton arches on the Moses Mabhida Stadium to the German specialist cabling company Pfeifer.

The Deputy Head of Strategic Projects at the city, Sue Bannister, said that the tender for the roofing, which included the arches, cabling and the roof membrane, had been awarded according to fixed rates, at a tender value of approximately R488 million.

"Pfeifer will utilise the services of a German company, Krupp Stahlbau, which will carry out the construction of the arch, and Birdair, a US company, will install the roof members.

"Pfeifer will make and install the cable structure and DSE Structural Engineering & Construction, a division of Grinaker LTA, will make and install the compression ring steel.

"Pfeifer, founded as a family-business in 1579, have extensive experience in major stadiums and built the cable roofs for the Hannover, Frankfurt and Cologne stadiums ahead of the 2006 Fifa World Cup," Bannister said.

Group Five's Craig Jessop said the arches would be fabricated in Hannover, preassembled and then taken by road to Hamburg or Bremen from where they would be shipped to Durban.

"We will start lifting the first elements in mid-February next year and hope to have the arch construction finished by June," Jessop said. "We will most probably use cranes with a 500-ton lifting capacity and the massive steel cables that form part of the structure will have a collective length of 13.5km and average size of 85mm."

While the new Wembley Stadium in London has the highest arches in the world (133m at its highest point), Durban's stadium will have the longest arches, spanning 356m.

The arches will be 108.7m high. Wembley is also the only stadium in the world fitted with a special beacon to warn low flying aeroplanes. Durban's will be the second.

dysan1
August 1st, 2007, 11:16 AM
Originally posted by dnO

I have seen low resolution renders of the Moses Mabhida Staduim in this thread that are the same as these ones. I don't think HD images if these renders have been posted.

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/389/kingsenzangakhona03jpgno7.jpg

http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/9195/kingsenzangakhona03jpgya6.th.jpg (http://img78.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kingsenzangakhona03jpgya6.jpg)
This is the full scale Image


http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/7595/kingsenzangakhona02jpgiz5.jpg

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/3174/kingsenzangakhona04jpghm2.jpg

EADGBE
August 1st, 2007, 03:12 PM
Is ABSA going to remain there, next door? I presumed, as with so many examples all over the world, that a new ground would signal the demolition of its older neighbour.

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/7595/kingsenzangakhona02jpgiz5.jpg

sk
August 1st, 2007, 03:31 PM
it looks really nice

CarlosBlueDragon
August 1st, 2007, 06:54 PM
good bridge!!

Durbsboi
August 2nd, 2007, 12:51 PM
Is ABSA going to remain there, next door? I presumed, as with so many examples all over the world, that a new ground would signal the demolition of its older neighbour.



The council & the tenants of the ABSA stadium that being NRU (Natal Rugby Union which has the SHARKS franchise) are currently discussing the possibilty's, when an out come has been reached we well notify you in this thread.

dysan1
August 10th, 2007, 02:14 PM
Bewsides the 12 tower cranes on the stadium there are about 6/7 mobile ones running about. And i 2 working on the parkade structure nearby. so a sea of cranes. sorry, i do need to take some more pics

Inertia
August 10th, 2007, 11:36 PM
Latest render courtesy p2bsa

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k59/DURBAN2010/DurbanStad-latestshot-1.jpg

Durbsboi
August 29th, 2007, 01:04 PM
http://i16.tinypic.com/67y8xgl.jpg

http://i15.tinypic.com/5xiyp15.jpg

http://i14.tinypic.com/4m9u0py.jpg

http://i15.tinypic.com/61myg4k.jpg

http://i15.tinypic.com/6fp9jww.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1209/1184941391_435239b730_b.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1417/1184848199_c867bec1c4_b.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1406/1184750051_2e81daedb8_b.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1413/1185536712_bcbd41df03_b.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1377/1185345678_ad41107e0c_b.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1316/1184411363_17a994d3c5_b.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1371/1184357973_3fdd1d6fa3_b.jpg

dysan1
September 25th, 2007, 10:16 PM
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1308/1392748900_a18ec157e4_b.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1398/1391834465_57e4387e5b_b.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1314/1392705332_246c66367d_b.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1367/1411357896_5316a98515_b.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1034/1411357882_df03bf7cf2_b.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1001/1411357862_40f5e2c6ab_b.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1350/1411357888_a53284f7b0_b.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1158/1411357904_a3a8b94060_b.jpg

MikeTheGreek
September 26th, 2007, 02:49 PM
Amazing Stadium!!!!!!

Would it be possible for visitors to have a walk through the arch?

Durbsboi
September 27th, 2007, 01:52 PM
There will be a cable car that will take visitors to the top of the arch

dysan1
September 27th, 2007, 01:55 PM
Amazing Stadium!!!!!!

Would it be possible for visitors to have a walk through the arch?

The arch is going to have a glass encased cable car going over it to maximise the views of the stadium, coastline and central centre... 110m up at the highest point...

I wonder if walking tours will be available too. but yes it will be great!

Inertia
September 27th, 2007, 11:21 PM
courtesy Mo Rush

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/Durban3.jpg

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/Durban8.jpg

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/Durban7.jpg

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/Durban4.jpg

dysan1
September 28th, 2007, 10:23 AM
Thanx for putting them on this thread bud! That cbd view from the stands is going to be great

Mo Rush
October 11th, 2007, 12:08 AM
Please rename thread: 2010FIFAWC - Moses Mabhida Stadium - Durban - 70000

Sparks
October 13th, 2007, 08:56 PM
I didn't realise till now that there was going to be an athletics track around the pitch.

SkyLerm
October 14th, 2007, 06:16 PM
Best 2010 stadium along with Soccer City :okay:

railcity
October 14th, 2007, 09:55 PM
has some elements from Olympic stadium in Berlin...

Mo Rush
October 14th, 2007, 11:09 PM
has some elements from Olympic stadium in Berlin...

same architects. its actually a much better version of a sdesign GMP architects proposed for the kazprom(spelling) arena in russia.

skaP187
October 15th, 2007, 05:50 PM
Nice stadium, shame it´s not a footballstadium...

Mo Rush
October 15th, 2007, 07:32 PM
Nice stadium, shame it´s not a footballstadium...

well the furthest the front row spectator will be is 40m

skaP187
October 16th, 2007, 02:43 PM
well the furthest the front row spectator will be is 40m

yes, and...?
That´s still pretty far away.

Durbsboi
October 17th, 2007, 08:53 AM
So, what you want a cookie or something?

Its still not as far as some of the other stadiums thats hosted the finals.

skaP187
October 17th, 2007, 04:05 PM
So, what you want a cookie or something?

Its still not as far as some of the other stadiums thats hosted the finals.

That still does not make this a good football stadium...

From a topnotch design like this I would expect something with a retractable runningtrack or something.

O yeah, I´ll take that cookie!

Lydon
October 17th, 2007, 05:15 PM
Oh cry me a river. Plenty of other world cup stadiums have had athletics tracks around them and they managed just fine.

skaP187
October 17th, 2007, 05:40 PM
Oh cry me a river. Plenty of other world cup stadiums have had athletics tracks around them and they managed just fine.

Plenty of worldcup stadiums were an absolute discrease...
This one is not.
Only it is a shame that it has a standard athletics track.

Lydon
October 17th, 2007, 09:29 PM
What's a discrease?

Durbsboi
October 18th, 2007, 09:48 AM
That still does not make this a good football stadium...

From a topnotch design like this I would expect something with a retractable runningtrack or something.

O yeah, I´ll take that cookie!

Stadium is built primary for the world cup, but the city wanted it to be a multipurpose arena so that future bids for Olympics & Commonwealth games could be possible, it would have made no sense for them to build a proper football stadium just for the WC & then later on spend billions remodling it to meet olympic requirements. Yes maybe they should have thought about re-tractable seating etc.. but that was all up to council & the allocated budget, we cant just go around saying we want this & want that & at the end find out there is no money for it. I dont see this being as a major setback for the stadium since it will have so many other draw cards like the musem, retail segment, hero's walk & not forgeting the cable car that will take visitors to the top of the arch.

Oh & I ate the cookie, you took too long to answer.

Durbsboi
October 18th, 2007, 09:51 AM
What's a discrease?

lol, I think he meant disgrace..... dont ask me how it is :ohno:

Lydon
October 18th, 2007, 05:24 PM
lol, I think he meant disgrace..... dont ask me how it is :ohno:

Oh lol...that makes sense.

skaP187
October 18th, 2007, 05:54 PM
lol, I think he meant disgrace..... dont ask me how it is :ohno:

Palabra del dia, gracias por el classe Ingles.
Woord van de dag, bedankt voor de les Engels.

Durbsboi
October 19th, 2007, 09:43 AM
Yo ouma se..... never mind :D

SkyLerm
October 20th, 2007, 12:08 AM
Stop argueing and get back to business :)

Any render haven't seen yet?

Mo Rush
December 2nd, 2007, 11:02 PM
November 24

http://pro.corbis.com/images/42-19230986.jpg?size=67&uid={bf22523b-e9a3-403a-a559-7e614c82ebb5}

Juanl
December 2nd, 2007, 11:55 PM
Well clearly FIFA don't give a hoot bout an athletics track or not. I mean look at Brazil. And if it means we save billions in conversion costs come the hosting of the 2020 olympics (WHICH WE WILL GET) I'm all for it hey!;-)

Lydon
December 3rd, 2007, 01:46 PM
Lies! Cape Town 2020 :P

Durbsboi
December 3rd, 2007, 02:13 PM
C'mon now, we all know that Durbans getting 2020 :crazy2:

CharlieP
December 3rd, 2007, 03:10 PM
What's a discrease?

http://www.sz-wholesale.com/uploadFiles/steam_iron_717.jpg

Lydon
December 3rd, 2007, 04:23 PM
http://www.sz-wholesale.com/uploadFiles/steam_iron_717.jpg

:lol: LOL :lol:

Schmeek
December 3rd, 2007, 05:03 PM
Must admit I hadn't noticed the athletics track - very cunningly painted blue.... I'm not a fan at all of tracks for stadiums hosting football, and 40Metres is a long long way when you're down at pitch level.
But if they need it for future CW games etc, that's the way it is. It's still got enough about it to be a great WC stadium IMO.

Mo Rush
December 3rd, 2007, 11:12 PM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2093/2083812413_5caf0a372f_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2276/2083796411_a7f490ba57_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2047/2083772649_0c568d093a_b.jpg

Durbsboi
December 14th, 2007, 09:17 AM
From the SA Threads


....photos by Chris Bloom.....

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x31/Upington/Gaonet/2109465004_4313e4e7ef_b-1.jpg

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x31/Upington/Gaonet/2109174778_29531e0e49_b.jpg

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x31/Upington/Gaonet/2108600327_4a6175ef98_b.jpg

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x31/Upington/Gaonet/2108487927_02fc705672_b-1.jpg

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x31/Upington/Gaonet/2108529393_2b3eb3f41f_b.jpg

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x31/Upington/Gaonet/2109327372_d6272e0677_b.jpg

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x31/Upington/Gaonet/2109158182_39d648d0a7_b.jpg

dysan1
December 16th, 2007, 08:59 PM
its really taking shape now. i had not driven past in about 3 weeks and was shocked when i saw it yesterday. still gotta get to that visitors centre, maybe tomorrow!

Loranga
December 17th, 2007, 02:56 PM
Maybe the architects should have taken a look at Atletico Madrids new stadium?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=M8A4eIIcdVg

Mo Rush
December 29th, 2007, 05:13 AM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2304/2144416386_08023788d2_b.jpg

dysan1
January 3rd, 2008, 09:46 PM
Here some more images from DurbanVibes.tv

http://durbanvibes.tv/img/0-9/2010-stadium/mm-stadium-1.jpg

http://durbanvibes.tv/img/0-9/2010-stadium/mm-stadium-2.jpg

http://durbanvibes.tv/img/0-9/2010-stadium/mm-stadium-3.jpg

http://durbanvibes.tv/img/0-9/2010-stadium/mm-stadium-4.jpg

http://durbanvibes.tv/img/0-9/2010-stadium/mm-stadium-5.jpg

http://durbanvibes.tv/img/0-9/2010-stadium/mm-stadium-6.jpg

http://durbanvibes.tv/img/0-9/2010-stadium/mm-stadium-7.jpg

Visitors centre

http://durbanvibes.tv/img/0-9/2010-stadium/mm-stadium-8.jpg

http://durbanvibes.tv/img/0-9/2010-stadium/mm-stadium-9.jpg

GNU
January 4th, 2008, 02:40 PM
Looks great. Thanks for the pics

Durbsboi
January 18th, 2008, 11:04 AM
http://i9.tinypic.com/8g682ac.jpg

From the Property magazine Durban

Durbsboi
January 19th, 2008, 03:22 PM
Cross section I havent seen before.

http://i18.tinypic.com/6pjth94.jpg

And the usual view from the deck.

http://i16.tinypic.com/6nr1gfq.jpg

Durbsboi
February 5th, 2008, 11:30 AM
From satwentyten.wordpress.com

http://satwentyten.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/durban-new-stadium-20-12-07-10-35-04-am.jpg

http://satwentyten.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/durban-new-stadium-18-12-07-10-10-30-am.jpg

http://satwentyten.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/durban-new-stadium-18-12-07-10-10-50-am.jpg

http://satwentyten.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/durban-new-stadium-20-12-07-10-34-19-am.jpg

& from Sundays Lightening storm!!!!

http://i25.tinypic.com/2vjv0cn.jpg

Durbsboi
February 5th, 2008, 11:33 AM
lol, this is funny

View My TinyFx (http://tinypic.com/flek.php?f=263u978&s=2)

Axelferis
February 5th, 2008, 01:02 PM
Thanx dursboi! this stadium will be amazing!

the only thing that disturbs about the world cup in south africa is it will be in winter season like at this period?? no? (may-june)

Durbsboi
February 5th, 2008, 03:43 PM
Yeh, the northern parts & midlands will be freezing, but here on the east coast it will be pretty warm compared to European standards

Axelferis
February 5th, 2008, 04:16 PM
Which stadiums are concerned for example?
What the weather will be like for cities of Johansburg and Cape town??

I know Durban is everytime in summer?
answer me please?
I wish to go in south africa at world cup but i don't know if i will...

canarywondergod
February 5th, 2008, 04:20 PM
i went to south africa last summer (early july) and the weather was perfect, i didnt see a cloud for 2 weeks, it was warm but not baking hot, around 20-25 degrees every day, so ideal football weather.

Axelferis
February 5th, 2008, 07:31 PM
World cup is in june ..and where did you go?

canarywondergod
February 5th, 2008, 07:47 PM
jo'berg, and all the grass was yellow so im guessing it had been sunny with no rain for quite a while!

Axelferis
February 5th, 2008, 11:17 PM
ok but i repeat! What weather in may-June??

Durbsboi
February 6th, 2008, 10:24 AM
May June in Joburg is not that bad, it will be Sunny with the occasional cloudy day, but it will be cold, not freezing, you expecting temps between 15-20 degrees, in July things get abit worse.

Cape Town is a mixed bag, some days you can have the most perfect weather, then when the wind comes it brings the crap weather. so it all depends on the weatehr patterns for that specific year.

www.sercan.de
February 9th, 2008, 01:42 PM
http://www.macina.com/typo3temp/pics/gmp_stadion_durban_07.jpg

http://www.macina.com/typo3temp/pics/gmp_stadion_durban_09.jpg

http://www.macina.com/typo3temp/pics/gmp_stadion_durban_10.jpg

http://www.macina.com/typo3temp/pics/gmp_stadion_durban_11.jpg

http://www.macina.com/typo3temp/pics/gmp_stadion_durban_15.jpg

Mo Rush
February 9th, 2008, 02:08 PM
http://www.macina.com/typo3temp/pics/gmp_stadion_durban_07.jpg

http://www.macina.com/typo3temp/pics/gmp_stadion_durban_09.jpg

http://www.macina.com/typo3temp/pics/gmp_stadion_durban_10.jpg

http://www.macina.com/typo3temp/pics/gmp_stadion_durban_11.jpg

http://www.macina.com/typo3temp/pics/gmp_stadion_durban_15.jpg

they have already been added. good to see they have added them online

www.sercan.de
February 9th, 2008, 02:51 PM
Oh, sorry
Didn't see them

Axelferis
February 9th, 2008, 06:20 PM
:eek: Dazzzling renders!!!
This place will be truly amazing!! :okay:

lpioe
February 9th, 2008, 08:27 PM
I'm usually not a fan of arches but this one kicks ass.

dysan1
February 10th, 2008, 10:57 AM
and walking up it or going over it in the cablecar wil just be an added bonus

Axelferis
February 10th, 2008, 03:22 PM
perhaps if not sure the most beautiful arch design seen in a stadium!!!
:okay:

lukus
February 10th, 2008, 03:46 PM
http://www.macina.com/typo3temp/pics/gmp_stadion_durban_07.jpg

http://www.macina.com/typo3temp/pics/gmp_stadion_durban_09.jpg

http://www.macina.com/typo3temp/pics/gmp_stadion_durban_10.jpg

http://www.macina.com/typo3temp/pics/gmp_stadion_durban_11.jpg

http://www.macina.com/typo3temp/pics/gmp_stadion_durban_15.jpg

absolute beauty

skaP187
February 28th, 2008, 01:19 PM
Any more construction pics???

Durbsboi
February 29th, 2008, 09:16 AM
Sadly not my friend, but will try & get some by next week.

skaP187
February 29th, 2008, 02:38 PM
Thanks! don´t worry about it!

Mo Rush
February 29th, 2008, 04:34 PM
its funny how the city of cape town back in early 2006 mentioned that the stadium would cost 3.5bn -4bn, while some cities were providing unrealistic estimates of of R1.2-1.6bn for their stadia and calling cape town crazy

MM will cost R3bn +. seems like zille and co werent so crazy after all.

dysan1
March 3rd, 2008, 10:06 PM
ummm...random mo...durban never said it would cost "R1,2bn to R1,6bn" mate

Mo Rush
March 3rd, 2008, 10:36 PM
ummm...random mo...durban never said it would cost "R1,2bn to R1,6bn" mate

2006 - 1.6 billion (http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?click_id=19&art_id=vn20060713091508694C174156&set_id=)

jan 2007- 1.8 billion and the feared escalation to 2 billion (http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=594&art_id=vn20070115095644687C414117)

feb 2008 2.6 billion
(http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=3045&art_id=vn20080220040135832C232352)

and the additional 400 million by manuel...and we have 3 billion.