One aspect of building tall and big is related to the reactions of the nearby residents. These may be well justified reactions in a number of cases but on the other hand they also can be extreme and phobic, relating to misunderstandings rather than real threats to the residents well-being.

The term NIMBY is an abbreviation of the words "Not In My Back Yard" and specifically relates to these absurd reactionists mostly who would object a big project regardless of its usefulness or the good image it may add to the nearby communities.

Look for instance at this well-known aspect of Levent.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c94/gm2263/Other%20Cities%20and%20Regions/Levent-FromtheHighway-Compact.jpg

While looking at it I noticed that there are high class villas in front of the IsBankasi complex. And my question is: Did the nearby residents actually complain about the construction of this complex or even react because this is what might have happened in Athens? Guys, I am in desperate need of an answer as our NIMBYs seem to have a lot of power and managed to stall or cancel many projects already, and I expect the same to happen with the construction of tall buildings in Athens and Thessaloniki.

So my question is: Do you have active NIMBYs groups in Turkey? Are they militant enough to cancel projects? And if this is the case, how are they dealt with?

We call them "The Chamber of Architects"... In Turkey, especially in Istanbul, all tall towers receive strong resistance... They say they do it to save the historical spirit, whereas Levent is not a historical region. So, thanks to this chamber, many projects usually have delays (I do not think they are strong enough to cancel it) due to the law suits.
Probably the guys, who own a villa in Levent, do not complain, since the skyscrapers improve the neighborhood adding enormous amount of value to their villas and lands. It must be a good feeling to have a villa in the financial heart of the country. I mean, they are not closely surrounded by these skyscrapers... The skyscrapers do not even affect them in my opinion. they do not block the seen, they are not even visible at some places in levent due to other buildings, trees etc. Oh, besides, many of these villas belong to companies as well. They are business villas. :D

http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/585/cenkceliketilerdenpanorama016s.jpg

What does NIMBY mean in Turkish? Umrumda değil?

Kendi muhitionde su gokdelenleri istemeyenler diyebiliriz.

Acikcasi bilemiyorum yani ben karsi cikarmiydim. Gunesini falan kapiyor, trafigi arttiriyor ama...

I think they exist everywhere...

Well, many of those owners of villas in Levent don't like those scrapers also, at least the ones blocking their sun. I had read that Isbank and some others reduced the sunshine hours of those.

In Turkey NIMBY's exists in large numbers, "chamber of architects" usually organise locals and take them as "background forces" while going to the court. And many people doesn't want skyscrapers in their cities. :(

http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/7131/leventshadows3cz.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

wow dude! the above pic is really cool! loved that fish eye efect!..

Αye aye aye!!!

Unbelievable picture.

keep in mind though that this combination gives Levent a North American touch, something like LA or Seattle or something...

However I believe that it has to do with central urban planning. If the state decides that an area will be a highrise zone, it is difficult for anybody to make an objection.

Αye aye aye!!!

Unbelievable picture.

keep in mind though that this combination gives Levent a North American touch, something like LA or Seattle or something...

However I believe that it has to do with central urban planning. If the state decides that an area will be a highrise zone, it is difficult for anybody to make an objection.

well, it is easy to object to something in turkey. :D

I do not think Istanbul has a north american feel. In north america, the cities are center based. All the skyscrapers are at one location and this is the center of the city. All the skyscrapers are packed closely next to each other and there are no people living in villas next to these buildings. In istanbul skyscrapers are spread and they are not packed densely (I like Istanbul style a lot) and we have a 2-floor house next to 50-floor building... Or we have forest next to skyscrapers. :D This can happen only in Turkey I guess. The country of surprises... :D
In Turkey, we have little suburban lifestyle, which makes the city very lively and improves the interactions. NY is a little bit like istanbul in that sense. In addition to these, istanbul has many city centers. Even until recently the skyscraper region wasn't a main citycenter. With the new shopping malls it became a strong center.

Actually, there are many people who oppose almost everything. They are against foreign investment or the construction of tunnels, bridges, highways etc. etc. Do you have those kind of people in Greece too gm 2263?

Actually we call those people as ''İstemezükçüler''! :D

I heard that on television. :laugh: They are annoying and an obstacle, I would kill them I swear if I ever saw them protesting.

Mimarlar Odası (Chamber of Architects)

I hate those guys :D

Their standard reaction to every new project is an immediate NO!

They even went to court for stopping the DTI project.

Kazandibi yine is basinda! Nick secisinden anliyorum artik :D

They have one answer to every single project: İstemezük :D

They are a royal pain in the ass... :laugh:

Levent and Maslak Districts are shown as commercial zones in Istanbul's development plan. In the perfect city planning those areas should be kept only commercial.
Btw in Turkey having skyscrapers nearby is not pestiferious but prestigious. It just helps increasing the value of your estates.

And on the other hand, Istanbul has a quite vivacious topography so with a good efford it can come out mass housing projects having skyscrapers nearby without problems. As the city's climate permissions 1-2-3 floor houses on lowlands and 10+ are on the upper skirts of the hill.. And actually in Istanbul there are many under constructions especially A+ mass housing projects and those projects contains villas and high rise residences together.

Chamber of Architects acts like backwards but turkey is a capitalist state!
the slogan of this guys are "NO, NO and NO"! :bash:

Mimarlar Odası (Chamber of Architects)

I hate those guys :D

Their standard reaction to every new project is an immediate NO!

They even went to court for stopping the DTI project.
Asımov Kazanova, Emporis'te işin, gücün yok mu senin?
Bak, Final Dershanesi Antalya: Bodrum katları ile 14 katlı, Antalya 2000'in yakınında.
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d158/ont1991/jn19_002.jpg

^^Onur alakasiz mesajlar atma lütfen! :nono:

^^ Tamam... Zaten nedense zabazunga'nın mesajı da okunmuyor.
Bu habere göre artık Antalya'ya gökdelen yapmak zor;
MURATPAŞA VE KONYAALTI BÖLGESİNDE ARTIK 7 KATTAN YÜKSEK BİNA YAPIMI YASAK




Antalya Büyükşehir Belediye Meclisinin aldığı karar gereği, Konyaaltı ve Muratpaşa belediyeleri sınırları içinde 7 kattan yüksek bina yapılamayacak.
Antalya Büyükşehir Belediye Meclisi Menderes Türel'in başkanlığında toplandı. Çeşitli komisyonlara üye seçiminin yapıldığı meclis toplantısında, CHP'li meclis üyeleri Şekip Dinçer, Birol Kaya ve Mehmet Yöndem komisyonlara aday olmadıklarını belirtip, gerekçe göstermeden meclis toplantısını terk ettiler.
Muratpaşa Belediyesinin eskimiş ve yıkılmaya yüz tutmuş tarihi Zerdalilik (Kozalak) Kahvesi'ni kültür ve sanat merkezi olarak kullanılması için yaptığı imar planı değişikliği önergesi, AK Partili meclis üyeleri ile Muratpaşa Belediye Başkanı Süleyman Evcilmen arasında kısa bir tartışmaya yol açtı.
AK Partili meclis üyeleri, Zerdalilik Kahvesi'nin ticari alan olduğunu öne sürerek, imar değişikliğine karşı çıktılar. Bunun üzerine Başkan Evcilmen, belediyenin yapmış olduğu kültür ve sanat merkezine karşı çıkılmasını anlayamadığını söyledi.
Evcilmen şunları kaydetti.
''Belediye eskimiş tarihi bir binayı onararak kültür ve sanat merkezi yaptı. Çok küçük bir plan değişikliği gerekli. Buna karşı çıkılmasına anlam veremiyorum. Kaldı ki Zerdalilik Kahvesi'ne ait tuvaleti oradaki cami işgal etmiş, aynı zamanda da şadırvan inşa etmiş. Zerdalilik Kahvesi ticari alan olarak kullanılmayacak.''
Evcilmen'in açıklamasınından sonra ikna olan AK Partili meclis üyeleri, konunun İmar Daire Başkanlığı'nda görüşülüp yeniden meclise getirilmesini kabul etti.

-7 KATTAN FAZLA BİNA YAPILAMAYACAK-

Meclis toplantısında, Antalya'nın Konyaaltı ve Muratpaşa belediyeleri sınırları içinde 7 kattan fazla inşaat yapılmaması kararı alınırken, otopark içinde de bodrum katı şartı getirildi. Bu madde oy çokluğuyla kabul edildi.
Muratpaşa Belediyesinin Sanayi Mahallesi'nin adını ''Cumhuriyet'' olarak değiştirilmesi önergesi de kısa bir tartışmaya neden oldu. Antalya Büyükşehir Belediye Başkanı Menderes Türel ile Muratpaşa Belediye Başkanı Evcilmen arasında isim verme yetkisi konusunda tartışma çıktı. Evcilmen, tartışma sırasında Türel'e Menderes'in anlamını bilip bilmediğini sordu. Türel de kendi adının anlamını bildiğini, kıvrıla kıvrıla akan akarsu olduğunu belirtince, Evcilmen, ''Adın gibi hep kıvrılıyorsun'' dedi. Bu tartışma, daha sonra iki başkanın karşılıklı anlayışıyla olumlu sonuçlandı.

http://www.antalyagazetem.com/?page=haber_detay&h_id=10210
Well, NIMBY in Antalya. You won't build more than 7 floors anymore :(

Well, NIMBY in Antalya. You won't build more than 7 floors anymore :(

Are you sure? Not even 10-storey?

^^ Well, It's only for Muratpaşa and Konyaaltı districts(close to city center). You can see 15-20 storey apartments in there.