My top 5 largest Non-State Capitals of Semenanjung. (Klang Valley's excluded)
These developing towns surprisingly, have quite a big CBD with notable skylines and buildings

1. Sg Petani
http://www.webspawner.com/users/photo13/spview00.jpg
http://www.webspawner.com/users/photo12/spshopping00.jpg


2. Batu Pahat
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b315/abeziel/Muar-BP/IMGP1188.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b315/abeziel/Muar-BP/IMGP1191.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b315/abeziel/Muar-BP/IMGP1192.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b315/abeziel/Muar-BP/IMGP1193.jpg


3. Muar
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b315/abeziel/Muar-BP/IMGP12345.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b315/abeziel/Muar-BP/IMGP1216.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b315/abeziel/Muar-BP/IMGP1229.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b315/abeziel/Muar-BP/IMGP1227.jpg


4. Taiping
http://www.asiaexplorers.com/taiping/clocktower/00.jpg
http://www.asiaexplorers.com/taiping/clocktower/01.jpg
http://ejoy_bugger.blogs.friendster.com/photos/uncategorized/casual_1.jpg


5. Kluang
http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~edwin007/kluang/images/kluangtown/09.jpg
http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~edwin007/kluang/images/kluangtown/05.jpg

*Thanx to Sabli & EJ

Add in to your list...
1. Kemaman town, sourthern terengganu
2. Temerloh, central Pahang
3. Bukit Mertajam, Mainland Penang

Then shouldn't the title be Non-Capital Rivalry?
Adding to the list:
4. Sitiawan-Lumut, Manjung District, Perak

I agree that Sg. Petani, Muar and Taiping should be on that list..but KLuang? hm..i dont think so..no offense..but only those two hotels are considered high rise there..which is Prime City hotel and Anika Hotel..but Kluang is nice small town though.. :)

Capital Rivalry?
Because these towns are big enuff to rival certain state capitals of say...P**lis and Te*****nu. :)

Take Batu Pahat for example, though compact, its town centre perhaps is the biggest among the provincial towns, with commendable number of highrises - challenging even the big brothas of AS,KB,KTN.

As for Kluang, there might be only 3-4 highrises in the form of hotels.
But for such a town coming out from middle of nowhere, its level of urbanisation is outstanding....let say taken from the Stadium up to a few KMs along Jalan Mersing.

Kemaman-Cukai and Temerloh-Mentakab are upcoming new regional urban centres for Terengganu & Pahang respectively. Fast developing...but yet to pose any significant rivalry to the established Northern and Southern counterparts.

Friends, kindly add in your pix as well!

The shouldn't the title be Non-Capital Rivalry?
Adding to the list:
4. Sitiawan-Lumut, Manjung District, Perak


Done! :okay:

Does Skudai count? I would also like to add Segamat, Genting(can ar?) and Cameron Highland. :)

Does Skudai count? I would also like to add Segamat, Genting(can ar?) and Cameron Highland. :)

Baq,

I guess it would be more fun if we exclude the spillover towns of Klang Valley, Penang-Butterworth and JB district. If not, then this would include Selayang, Ampang, Subang, Klang, Perai...the list goes on. :)

One important omission, Butterworth. it will beat the cities here by in terms of high rise buildings. There are at least 10 blocks of buildings that are over 20 stories tall in that city. Although it's close proximity to Penang island gives it an advantage, technically it is still a non capital city. Towns like Sungai Petani and Kulim enjoy the spillover effects of Penang in many ways.

Does Skudai count? I would also like to add Segamat, Genting(can ar?) and Cameron Highland. :)

Genting? Why not, Baq? Genting is a real city..an entertaiment city. The owner builds the city, fund the police, firemen, hospital, road, utilities..u named it.

Sitiawan and Sri Manjung also...

Sitiawan and Sri Manjung also...
Yeah that's wat I meant...Sitiawan-Sri Manjung-Lumut as a whole area. Too bad I have no pics. Anyone have to share will be great.

I agree that Sg. Petani, Muar and Taiping should be on that list..but KLuang? hm..i dont think so..no offense..but only those two hotels are considered high rise there..which is Prime City hotel and Anika Hotel..but Kluang is nice small town though.. :)


Kluang is actually a city....

and not as small as u think

Kluang is actually a city....

and not as small as u think

Huh? Kluang a city? Yikes!

Oh well I guess most people assume that "large" qualifies someplace to be called a city.

Huh? Kluang a city? Yikes!

Oh well I guess most people assume that "large" qualifies someplace to be called a city.

haha........anyway, Kluang district does have a population 300,000....

which one is the 2nd biggest town in Johor?

BP or Muar?

Kluang is actually a city....

and not as small as u think

since when Kluang is a city?
I've been all over johor ( including all remote areas and Feldas..)..and i have to say that after JB, i like BP and Muar..and both are bigger than Kluang...
yeah.i like BP Walk..:okay:

haha........anyway, Kluang district does have a population 300,000....

which one is the 2nd biggest town in Johor?

BP or Muar?


Currently Batu Pahat is the 2nd biggest, developing town in Johor. Perhaps due to BP being the next big town after JB, making it an alternative stopover for Singaporean who wants to go a wee bit further up of JB.

BP town centre is apparently bigger than Muor, however, I still think Muar and its surrounding is more urbanised than BP.

Currently Batu Pahat is the 2nd biggest, developing town in Johor. Perhaps due to BP being the next big town after JB, making it an alternative stopover for Singaporean who wants to go a wee bit further up of JB.

BP town centre is apparently bigger than Muor, however, I still think Muar and its surrounding is more urbanised than BP.

well said bro..Muar is a bit organised and well planned..love the view of the mosque from across the river...and not to forget..the mee bandung infront of SMS Muar..yummy!

Is Kulai and Senai suburbs of Johor Bahru? :)

Is Kulai and Senai suburbs of Johor Bahru? :)

By administrative terms, Kulai and Senai fall into the district of Johor Bahru. But Kulai for instance is not an entirely new town, it is just that the urban sprawl of JB has somewhat reached it through Skudai and Senai.

Simmilar to perhaps KL and Rawang/ Seremban.

My collection, pics found from the net some time ago. Can't recall the sources.
1. Muar
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i290/sc4_2006/muar1.jpg

2. Kluang
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i290/sc4_2006/KLUANG1.jpg

since when Kluang is a city?
I've been all over johor ( including all remote areas and Feldas..)..and i have to say that after JB, i like BP and Muar..and both are bigger than Kluang...
yeah.i like BP Walk..:okay:


well i came to uk to study in 1996 and i remember when i returned to malayhsia on holiday in 1998 kluang was a city..... i live in both JB and Kluang.... my dad lives in kluang and my grandparents in JB.... my dad told me Kluang is the second city after JB with 300,000 pop, JB with 500,000.

i assume my dad knows wat he is talking about since he is a developer in johor for over 20 yrs...

i told my other friends last time... and they checked online on malay gov websites....and they said its true.... i cant read malay so i guess u will have to go check ureself if u really want to know if its really true.....

Muar and Batu Pahat both has population of around 300,000 too however Kluang is more developed than the two therefore received city status

well i came to uk to study in 1996 and i remember when i returned to malayhsia on holiday in 1998 kluang was a city..... i live in both JB and Kluang.... my dad lives in kluang and my grandparents in JB.... my dad told me Kluang is the second city after JB with 300,000 pop, JB with 500,000.

i assume my dad knows wat he is talking about since he is a developer in johor for over 20 yrs...

i told my other friends last time... and they checked online on malay gov websites....and they said its true.... i cant read malay so i guess u will have to go check ureself if u really want to know if its really true.....

Muar and Batu Pahat both has population of around 300,000 too however Kluang is more developed than the two therefore received city status
Err;;;I'm doubtful. kluang is not yet officially recognized as a city though it may be developed. No Majlis Bandaraya Kluang just yet. I still think JB, Batu Pahat & Muar then Kluang is the biggest in that order.

Err;;;I'm doubtful. kluang is not yet officially recognized as a city though it may be developed. No Majlis Bandaraya Kluang just yet. I still think JB, Batu Pahat & Muar then Kluang is the biggest in that order.


Kluang does have Majlis bandaraya

There is a diffference between 'Majlis Bandaraya' and 'Majlis Perbandaran'. The former means (literally translated) City Council and the latter means Town Council. And of course 'Dewan Bandaraya' means City Hall ;)

However in most cases in Malaysia, Majlis Perbandaran also could mean Municipal Council :yes:

Klang has a Majlis Perbandaran Kluang so it is not a city status - both physically and politically in fact :D

Subang Jaya
Petaling Jaya
Bandar Sunway
Kelana Jaya
USJ

That`s da top five in my list hehehehe

Subang Jaya
Petaling Jaya
Bandar Sunway
Kelana Jaya
USJ

That`s da top five in my list hehehehe
Err...only upcoming towns excluding Klang valley and in Peninsular only

There is a diffference between 'Majlis Bandaraya' and 'Majlis Perbandaran'. The former means (literally translated) City Council and the latter means Town Council. And of course 'Dewan Bandaraya' means City Hall ;)

However in most cases in Malaysia, Majlis Perbandaran also could mean Municipal Council :yes:

Klang has a Majlis Perbandaran Kluang so it is not a city status - both physically and politically in fact :D
^^^^ Yup my point exactly
Majlis Perbandaran = Municipal Council
Majlis Bandaraya = City Council
So Kluang is still Perbandaran, essentially a main "town" in its district. Btw how are Majlis Bandaraya and Dewan Bandaraya differentiated? Or is Dewan Bandaraya (City hall) a component of Majlis Bandaraya (City Council)?

1) Miri
2) Sibu
3) Sandakan
4) Tawau
5) Bintulu

1) Miri
2) Sibu
3) Sandakan
4) Tawau
5) Bintulu
Hey in Peninsular Malaysia only (semenanjung) as mentioned by the thread starter...

Skyprince obviously did not read our posts properly :D

Butterworth and Bukit Mertajam, Penang?

Oops....

1) Butterworth
2) Prai
3) Kulim
4) Bukit Mertajam
5) Nibong Tebal

Oops....

1) Butterworth
2) Prai
3) Kulim
4) Bukit Mertajam
5) Nibong Tebal
Err good try.....but I think some have already been mentioned before. :D

Hey in Peninsular Malaysia only (semenanjung) as mentioned by the thread starter...

True, those Sabah/Sarawak towns are infact much 'bigger' and more developed compared to their Semenanjung counterparts. But perhaps since Sabah/Sarawak is such a huge state - comparatively speaking Sibu or Miri could have been another state capital altogether should they're located in Semenanjung.

Sungai Petani
Bandar Baru Perda
Taiping

Do you all consider towns in East Malaysia?

2005 statistic

Population
Kluang 134,000
Batu Pahat 123,000
Muar 102,000

Ya....cities/towns from East Malaysia should be in also. There are also have some capital rivalry towns at E.M.

err....how about langkawi...can we include it

Oops....

1) Butterworth
2) Prai
3) Kulim
4) Bukit Mertajam
5) Nibong Tebal

you need to add one, Sungai Petani:)

i supporting aBe list.... his talking about the facts..

Perak
1. Taiping

Johor
1. Batu Pahat
2. Segamat
3. Kluang

Penang
1. Bukit Mertajam
2. Seberang Perai/Butterworth

Kedah
1. Sg Petani
2. Kulim

add in:
Bworth
Bkt Mertajam
Kulim
Port Dickson

Pahang cities like Karak, Bentong and Temerloh have a quite big potential for develop due to the EC expressway.

I'll spot for

1. Sg Petani, Kedah (it's even bigger than the state capital in terms of business opportunities)
2. Kemaman, Terengganu (same reasons as above, some more it has huge development in its industry)
3. Batu Pahat, Johor (everybody agrees, right?)
4. Sandakan, Sabah
5. Sibu, Sarawak

I'll never mention any towns within Klang Valley or in Penang state because those places have very close relationships to the major cities around. They are going to form Megalopolis soon.

For most of the outsiders,
==>> KL = KL + PJ + SJ + ... or
==>> PG = PG + SP + BM + ...

Any pics of Sg. Petani in this forum?

I ave never been to Sg.Petani,I can't help but envisage it as a kampung with serious garbage problem :nuts: .

Fottestcat, come to Sungai Petani la. Then you will get the real pic of SP. I'm from SP. Maybe this Chinese New Year i'll take some pics of it. My sis took my digi cam so i cant take it right now. BTW, try to think positive ok. Hehehe.

Any pics of Sg. Petani in this forum?

I ave never been to Sg.Petani,I can't help but envisage it as a kampung with serious garbage problem :nuts: .

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=11804524#post11804524
:) :) :)

hey guys how about langkawi

Taiping....one of my favourite town

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/8213/dsc01162ip9.jpg
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/2879/dsc01163pl2.jpg
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/3706/dsc01161rq9.jpg
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/8004/dsc01168cp0.jpg
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/4133/dsc01167we3.jpg
http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/3933/dsc01160gf4.jpg
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/6057/dsc01165za9.jpg

http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/3933/dsc01160gf4.jpg



I think, i have been this nasi kandar stall. :)

Taiping....one of my favourite town
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/2879/dsc01163pl2.jpg

I love this street!! Like never end...infinity.

I think, i have been in this nasi kandar stall. :)

oh really..?! sedap tak ?

I love this street!! Like never end...infinity.

me too :D

oh really..?! sedap tak ?

Quite nice. Boleh laa.

Giant is now offically opened at Sg. Petani!:banana:

^^

That's good, what kind of shop inside the hypermarket?

Ermm let see,

*Mutiara Egypt
*KFC
*Pizza Hut
*Music Valley

Thats all i can remember. :D

^^

Size wise, is it comparable to Tesco SP?

Yea, I think Giant is slightly bigger and has offer a lot moret han Tesco. Moreover, Giant is just 5 minutes from my house!

personally i think langkawi and sp, both are much bigger than alor star....take langkawi for example, it has 5 shopping malls, langkawi fair, langkawi parade, saga shopping centre, jetty point and skymall....well skymall isnt really a mall but my point is langkawi is much bigger and play more significant role than alor star....

besides being very international outlook kindda place, it houses most of great resorts in malaysia....it has an international airport, better seaport than alor star ...

the only thing that it doesnt has is private hospital...but the gvt hospital there is very well designed indeed...i may be biased since i was born there but do consider my points coz it makes sense isnt it....

anyhow this a pic a langkawi parade i found on net.....

http://www.langkawishowcase.com/Langkawi%20Parade%20Centre%20Court.gif

Perak
1. Taiping

Johor
1. Batu Pahat
2. Segamat
3. Kluang

Penang
1. Bukit Mertajam
2. Seberang Perai/Butterworth

Kedah
1. Sg Petani
2. Kulim


Regarding Above List, I would add and change the list in sequence ( based on Poplutation
1. Batu Pahat - Johor
2. Sandakan - Sabah
3. Sg Petani -Kedah
4. Muar - Johor
5. Bukit Mertajam
6. Seberang Perai/Butterworth
7. Kluang - Johor
8. Sibu - Sarawak
9. Miri - Sarawak
10. Sitiawan - Perak
11. Taiping _Perak
12. Segamat - Johor
13. Kulim - Kedah

In term of Development, the towns from Johor State still better. It seems their spending power is better compare to other towns.

Regarding Above List, I would add and change the list in sequence ( based on Poplutation
1. Batu Pahat - Johor
2. Sandakan - Sabah
3. Sg Petani -Kedah
4. Muar - Johor
5. Bukit Mertajam
6. Seberang Perai/Butterworth
7. Kluang - Johor
8. Sibu - Sarawak
9. Miri - Sarawak
10. Sitiawan - Perak
11. Taiping _Perak
12. Segamat - Johor
13. Kulim - Kedah

In term of Development, the towns from Johor State still better. It seems their spending power is better compare to other towns.

Cng,
I just don't think that population does count in determining which town is the largest..has got the biggest CBD or the best skyline etc - at least in Malaysia.

Sibu, Sandakan, Miri are cities in the making, they're totally in a different league compared to Sg Petani, Batu Pahat etc. :)

As for Perai-Butterworth-SJ-BM...in fact almost a large portion of Seberang Perai [Province Wellesley] is highly developed, with scattered highrises and skylines, that I personally am not ashamed to put it in the class of JB. Well...minus a clustered skyline and dotted hypermarkets.

Cng,
I just don't think that population does count in determining which town is the largest..has got the biggest CBD or the best skyline etc - at least in Malaysia.

Sibu, Sandakan, Miri are cities in the making, they're totally in a different league compared to Sg Petani, Batu Pahat etc. :)

As for Perai-Butterworth-SJ-BM...in fact almost a large portion of Seberang Perai [Province Wellesley] is highly developed, with scattered highrises and skylines, that I personally am not ashamed to put it in the class of JB. Well...minus a clustered skyline and dotted hypermarkets.


Miri is already a city:D
and the population there is far bigger than Sibu^^

In fact, Miri population is still less than Sibu according to wikipedia website.

BTW, What is CBD?

^^ Well, dun count on Wikipedia too much!! Some info are wrong one...Miri population is higher than sibu...

CBD = City Business District....I think so...coz I not usually use this word...hehehe...

In fact, Miri population is still less than Sibu according to wikipedia website.

BTW, What is CBD?

CBD=central Business District

http://world-gazetteer.com/wg.php?x=&men=gcis&lng=en&dat=32&srt=npan&col=aohdq&geo=-152 this one more accurate

From the source of Wikipedia, Miri has 263,000 pop while sibu has 254,000 pop.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarawak

In fact, Miri chinese population is much less than Sibu with only 80,000+ compared to to Sibu(140,000+). Miri population higher than cbu is becoz their Malay, Bumiputra and foreign residents as well are much more compared to cbu. The foreign residents mainly consist of foreign students from Curtin University which built in Miri because of Miri got politic shelter advantages .FYI, Cbu still doesn't have any university at time being.
Thus, actually cbu is likely to be more competitive if compared to Miri becoz all the main cities & towns in Malaysia are still mainly developed and urbanised because of chinese population(ex.Penang,KL,Ipoh etc)...

http://photos.friendster.com/photos/92/66/30676629/546975014m.jpg

The 2 main rivalry towns(Miri & Sibu) in Sarawak...

http://photos.friendster.com/photos/92/66/30676629/546975014m.jpg

The 2 main rivalry towns(Miri & Sibu) in Sarawak...

I think the competition is not the main issue nowadays. The overall development of Sarawak including other major towns such as Kuching and Bintulu as a whole is more important in view of the declining (outflowing) population from Sarawak and also declining tourists arrival (while tourists going into Sabah has increased tremendously over the past few years). It's time to build the whole Sarawak economic corridor by joining the effort of different towns rather than competing against each other.

Sarawak currently facing hardness and hazards especially when come across to politic and also the gangsterism issue where there is a war of chaos almost in every main parties in swk where the rumors now is UMNO try to sneak in to take over the role of PBB where swk is the only state that UMNO doesn't step in.
Look at recently the fights for commandment in PRS and SUPP....it was totally ashame...
The development will never come easily as our parties politics leaders are not united at all...Event the Tan Sri & Datuk like to compete internally....Competition is absolutely not a issue nowadays, but it comes naturally, comes with the greediness of the human nature....

^^ Well, dun count on Wikipedia too much!! Some info are wrong one...Miri population is higher than sibu...

CBD = City Business District....I think so...coz I not usually use this word...hehehe...

In fact , Miri has more populations than Sibu in normal days. But when there are festivals or whatsoever. And those sibuans around the world come back. Sibu has more people than Miri , as in , much more , a lot. Trust me :P

Even looking at the physical developments comparison between Sibu and Miri, it seems like Sibu appears to be more developed, bigger and heavily populated compared to Miri. Whether population figures deceives this or not, I do not know.

In fact , Miri has more populations than Sibu in normal days. But when there are festivals or whatsoever. And those sibuans around the world come back. Sibu has more people than Miri , as in , much more , a lot. Trust me :P

Really?? Hmmm...I guess Sibu population is higher than Miri then....I still think Miri is more bigger than sibu lo...Miri more famous mah..:D

To be frank, there's no real city-like city in East Malaysia , at least to me. Kuching and KK is a lot kampung-feel city. Miri is totally doesn't fit to be a city at the moment , it's like a town to me. Don't care if it's Sibu or Miri , both of the places have to improve the quality of living. Population does not mean anything , especially when both towns are around only 250k population. Man , it's only 250k , what do you think? It's not like Klang Valley or Singapore , it's only 250k !!! Im not trying to be rude or something, just sometimes ppl like to say Miri is way better than Sibu or talk as if Miri is a very big city. Sorry i'm from Sibu and im not trying to be mean. This is just my side of view and i feel sorry if i offend someone. Cheers!

It's showtime in Kulai
Sim Bak Heng

http://www.nst.com.my/JohorBuzz/Thursday/Stories/2251601/insidepix1?display=small
KULAI folk no longer need to travel to Johor Baru to watch movies. A five-screen Star Cineplex opened at the Kulai Hypermarket in Kulai Utama, Kulai, on May 15.


BLOCKBUSTER FANS: The Star Cineplex in Kulai Utama opened its door on May 15.

IN CHARGE: Cinema manager Lai Tet Yin says movie buffs can enjoy the latest releases
The shopping mall is located about 100 metres from the Kulai bus and taxi terminal.

Owned by Hock Star Entertainment Industry Bhd, the largest cinema operator in Sabah and Sarawak, Star Cineplex has 668 seats in stadium-style arrangement.

Another three halls, which will have 700 seats, are scheduled to open in August.


Cinema operations manager Lai Tet Yin said this was the company's seventh cineplex. The others, with 21 screens, are in Sabah and Sarawak.

"We will show the latest movies," he said.

All the seats have ample leg room, besides the latest digital sound system.

Tickets are priced at RM8 on weekdays and RM9 at weekends, and RM10 for blockbuster movies. Every Wednesday is movie day when a ticket is RM5.

There is also a counter selling a wide assortment of snacks and drinks just next to the box office.

for perak only

1. manjung district (sitiawan, lumut, manjung) - have best quality life in this state and very gud urban planning instead the majlis perbandaran is one of the best in this country:cheers:. the only things is don't have private hospital and shopping mall:ohno:, but the public hospital is very good and the commercial area is quite complete with some important shop and hypermarket :lol:

2. Taiping - this old town have not many change for many years or decades :bash: but in few years recently have many new development like shopping mall,hypermarket and some private hospitals :banana:

3. teluk intan - surround by kampungs but the town is quite nice and well developed :lol:

for perak only

1. manjung district (sitiawan, lumut, manjung) - have best quality life in this state and very gud urban planning instead the majlis perbandaran is one of the best in this country:cheers:. the only things is don't have private hospital and shopping mall:ohno:, but the public hospital is very good and the commercial area is quite complete with some important shop and hypermarket :lol:

2. Taiping - this old town have not many change for many years or decades :bash: but in few years recently have many new development like shopping mall,hypermarket and some private hospitals :banana:

3. teluk intan - surround by kampungs but the town is quite nice and well developed :lol:

I have to agree with you on that regarding Manjung district. It is very well-zoned & organized with clean, wide dual-carriageways throughout the main town area. Sitiawan being the main town center is zoned as the main commercial/residential area, Sri Manjung (admin center with commercial and residential) & Lumut (Industrial & Gateway to Pangkor Island).

The whole area is developing pretty fast and with more upcoming industrial projects with a private hospital in planning (Pantai Hospital), good times are ahead.....

To be frank, there's no real city-like city in East Malaysia , at least to me. Kuching and KK is a lot kampung-feel city. Miri is totally doesn't fit to be a city at the moment , it's like a town to me. Don't care if it's Sibu or Miri , both of the places have to improve the quality of living. Population does not mean anything , especially when both towns are around only 250k population. Man , it's only 250k , what do you think? It's not like Klang Valley or Singapore , it's only 250k !!! Im not trying to be rude or something, just sometimes ppl like to say Miri is way better than Sibu or talk as if Miri is a very big city. Sorry i'm from Sibu and im not trying to be mean. This is just my side of view and i feel sorry if i offend someone. Cheers!

Just curious how do u define quality of living?

Personally, i don't need a shopping centre to improve my "quality of living".


cheers,

Add in to your list...
1. Kemaman town, sourthern terengganu
2. Temerloh, central Pahang
3. Bukit Mertajam, Mainland Penang

Pls add AYER KEROH Melaka in the list

^^^^^^^^^^^^
don't u think ayer keroh is already a part of melaka city??:lol:

^^^^^^^^^^^^
don't u think ayer keroh is already a part of melaka city??:lol:

Nope..it's 20km away from the city

Nope..it's 20km away from the city

^^ In other country, this can consider as part of the city or at least city suburban or urban/metro area. only in our country, cities cannot be bigger and bigger as they already has limitation by political border. Kuala lumpur, georgetown and johor bharu are the examples

^^ In other country, it will be consider as part of the city or at least as city suburban. only in our country, cities cannot be bigger and bigger as they already have limited by political boarder :ohno:. Kuala lumpur, georgetown and johor bharu are the examples
KL yes I do agree is a big city...BUT gorgetown & jb..went there several time not see any sign of big city...just 10 munites round we can completed round the town when I compare to melaka city the size looks melaka more better??? ..how you consider it BIG ???? for me it's over rated... when you're taking about high rise PD also can see a nice view along the beach....

tipu...
jb n gorgetown are wayy bigger than melaka..
tgk google maps pn da taw..

tipu...
jb n gorgetown are wayy bigger than melaka..
tgk google maps pn da taw..

tak tipu Ani..you welcome to Melaka..see the city view...you can compare...google map just showing the coverage of jb & GT area...what I mean is the City coverage....

^^ then go and look at google earth, even ipoh may have a bigger urban sprawl than malacca...

p.s. bro, you are the most patriotic malaccan than i ever meet in ages!!!

^^ then go and look at google earth, even ipoh may have a bigger urban sprawl than malacca...

p.s. bro, you are the most patriotic malaccan than i ever meet in ages!!!

tks daeng..im proud to be malaccan...don't mention about ipoh...we taking about overrated of penang n jb...:banana:

^^Isn't this thread about non-capital towns.

How about Sandakan , Tawau , Bintulu , Sarikei , and Klang

PERAK-TAIPING,KUALA KANGSAR,TELUK INTAN
KEDAH-SUNGAI PETANI,KULIM
SELANGOR-PETALING JAYA,SUBANG JAYA
PULAU PINANG-SEBERANG JAYA
KELANTAN-KUALA KRAI
TERENGGANU-DUNGUN,KEMAMAN
PAHANG-TEMERLOH,PEKAN
JOHOR-MUAR,BATU PAHAT
NEGERI SEMBILAN-PORT DICKSON,TAMPIN
SARAWAK-SIBU,MIRI,MUKAH

Perak
1. Taiping

Johor
1. Batu Pahat
2. Segamat
3. Kluang

Penang
1. Bukit Mertajam
2. Seberang Perai/Butterworth

Kedah
1. Sg Petani
2. Kulim

Bukit Mertajam
Fire Brigade Buiding

http://www.upislam.com/images/97345844568403928186.jpg
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/8183301

District's Police Head Quarter

http://www.upislam.com/images/53895934542104724846.jpg
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/8183207

TNB Building

http://www.upislam.com/images/40544101906163484700.jpg
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/8183359

Seberang Perai Town Council Building

http://www.upislam.com/images/60799391969320492007.jpg
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/8183158

kedah - sungai petani, kulim, langkawi
perak - taiping, teluk intan, sri manjung-sitiawan-lumut, kuala kangsar
terengganu - kemaman
pahang - temerloh, pekan
johor - batu pahat, muar, segamat, kluang
ns - port dickson
sabah - sandakan, tawau
sarawak - sibu, miri, bintulu

nilai and sepang. if you don't count them as parts of the klang valley.

what about Ayer Keroh Melaka? that is not under Majlis Bandaraya Melaka Bersejarah jurisdiction, but Majlis Perbandaran Hang Tuah Jaya

nilai too near from seremban, can be considered under seremban. n yet to be emerged into 1 city council with seremban.

ayer keroh pun dkat jugak dgn bndar mlaka. kalo cmtu area under klang valley(mpsj,mpkj,mps etc), iskandar (kulaijaya) penang (sj, bm, bworh) n even alor setar (jitra) pun bleh msuk la. better the upcoming towns that stand on its own.

Frankly speaking, secondary city outside of KL and greater KL area are more like the same pace.Not a city, yet a town. the only true city like feel is actually just KL in Malaysia. Penang is catching up, but still..

for Johor - Batu Pahat is d most city-feel town after JB. Next can be Muar..others, i don think so.
for Pahang - Temerloh-Mentakab is ok also but not so great even as compared to Batu Pahat.
for Melaka - I dunno. other towns so small like Jasin, Alor Gajah. Ayer Keroh is ok bt since still in doubt, i'm not put it in.
for N9 - can put hope for Nilai but not as great as Batu Pahat though.
for Kedah - Sg Petani is good. smtimes I think Sg Petani is bigger than Alor Setar.
for S'wak - Miri is nice city. mayb cant feel like KL city but wat can i say is more like S.Alam. neighborhood life here is great!!

^^+1. Batu Pahat is growing:)

sibu too.. the only problem is that it is very hard for foreign investors even from peninsular to venture into sarawak market.

johor - muar, batu pahat
selangor - petaling jaya, klang
negeri sembilan - nilai
penang - butterworth, bukit mertajam
melaka- ayer keroh (hang tuah jaya)
perak - taiping
kedah - sungai petani
pahang - temerloh, mentakab
terengganu - kemaman
sarawak - miri
sabah - sandakan

Sigh.. Any town from the sub-urb of KL+Klang Valley, Penang Metro or JB Metro can beat almost all other non-capital towns in other states. so i will not list them.

Johor = Batu Pahat, Kluang, Muar
Melaka = Ayer Keroh
Negeri Sembilan = Nilai
Perak = Taiping, Teluk Intan
Kedah = Sungai Petani, Kulim

Perlis, Kelantan, Terengganu, Pahang = sorry but these states dont really have towns that can be considered as towns

^^ Kemaman in Terengganu has the first proper mall in the state while KT has none! petrochemical, polymer industries are big there..

-del-

Here is my list of the upcoming non-capital towns (and not forming part of a large conurbation / metro area):

Kedah - Sungai Petani, Kulim
Perak - Taiping, Manjung, Lumut, Teluk Intan
Negri Sembilan - Nilai
Johor - Batu Pahat, Muar, Kluang
Terengganu - Kemaman
Pahang - Bentong, Mentakab, Temerloh
Sarawak - Sibu, Miri, Bintulu
Sabah - Sandakan, Tawau

Actually if wanted to exclude out those in klang valley or those forming part of larger penang metro, then both sungai petani and kulim should not be included as a lot of people travel to work in butterworth/penang daily from this 2 towns.

secondary towns in Terengganu

1.Kemaman


2.Dungun

my list...

selangor-kelang
perak-manjung
terengganu-dungun,kemaman
kedah-sungai petani
penang-bukit mertajam
johor-batu pahat,muar
kelantan-gua musang,kuala krai(kuala krai is still new,but develop very fast)
sabah-sandakan,tawau
sarawak-miri,sibu
s

Terangganu


kemaman
dungun

Pahang


temerloh

Kelantan


kuala krai

Johor


batu pahat
kluang
muar

n9


nilai

perak


manjung
taiping

kedah


sg petani
kulim

PARIT BUNTAR !

here's my new lists...

kedah - sg petani, kulim, jitra
perak - taiping, lumut-manjung-sitiawan, teluk intan
ns - PD, nilai
johor - muar, batu pahat, kluang
pahang - pekan, temerloh
terengganu - kemaman-chukai
sabah - sandakan, tawau
sarawak - miri, sibu

^^ Good list, I agree, for temerloh, i think it will soon be temerloh-mentakab combined

here's my new lists...

kedah - sg petani, kulim, jitra
perak - taiping, lumut-manjung-sitiawan, teluk intan
ns - PD, nilai
johor - muar, batu pahat, kluang
pahang - pekan, temerloh
terengganu - kemaman-chukai
sabah - sandakan, tawau
sarawak - miri, sibu

Pekan Kuah pula tanak masukkan skali ke?sbb kuah walaupun dia pekan yang xla penduduk seramai pekan kulim tapi pekan dia besar jugak..dan kat situ ada semua benda seperti tmpt komersial,perumahan,perkhidmatan,tmpt2 lepak santai,restaurants dan cafe yg semua org kenal dan juga mcm2 lg yg layak diiktiraf sebagai perbandaran..highrises mcm hotel,kondo dan pejabat juga ada..

^^ Good list, I agree, for temerloh, i think it will soon be temerloh-mentakab combined
I haven't been to these two cities for a long time actually, ever since the ECE was completed all the way to Kuantan and Kemaman, LOL! :lol:

Still, I won't be surprised to see both Mentakab and Temerloh combining into one large urban conurbation, to easily become the most dominant economic zone and largest city in Central Pahang. Aren't they only around 15-20 km apart?

Pekan Kuah pula tanak masukkan skali ke?sbb kuah walaupun dia pekan yang xla penduduk seramai pekan kulim tapi pekan dia besar jugak..dan kat situ ada semua benda seperti tmpt komersial,perumahan,perkhidmatan,tmpt2 lepak santai,restaurants dan cafe yg semua org kenal dan juga mcm2 lg yg layak diiktiraf sebagai perbandaran..highrises mcm hotel,kondo dan pejabat juga ada..
Yup, I agree that Kuah should be on this list... For a small city of less than 75k people, the skyline can put many larger ones to shame!

It is like a small, low-rise Hong Kong, with the mountains forming a beautiful backdrop to the tower blocks and the sea! Anyway, here's a picture of Kuah that I took from Bras Basah Island to see for yourselves... :D
http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv175/touch1979/DSC04668.jpg

Batu Pahat :)

http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/9363/13396472.jpg
by chslibrary (http://www.tripmondo.com/malaysia/johor/batu-pahat/picture-gallery-of-batu-pahat/)

Batu Pahat!!! :D

It is growing in such a way that the surrounding areas (Sri Gading, Parit Raja) are likely to merge with it in the next few years. But lacking development across the river (i.e. Peserai side).

There needs to be better city planning in view of these expansions but I don't have much faith... many of the new Tamans behind Taman Maju/Flora Utama etc would be better served if there was a proper dedicated main road and not roads build by the Taman developers themselves.

Perlis, Kelantan, Terengganu, Pahang = sorry but these states dont really have towns that can be considered as towns

I live in Gua Musang, Kelantan and Gua Musang is a town. Not a really big town.

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wow ! Batu Pahat is very fast growing....
btw, how many fast food restaurant there?

bandar2 lain kat pahang selain dari kuantan semua ada marrybrown..siap ada drive thru lagi..huhuhu..kuantan takde marrybrown pun..hampeh...

bandar2 lain kat pahang selain dari kuantan semua ada marrybrown..siap ada drive thru lagi..huhuhu..kuantan takde marrybrown pun..hampeh...

even Bagan Serai, Perak bukanlah sebuah bandar tapi kat sana dah ada Marrybrown... dah dekat 1o tahun rasanya :cheers:

^^
bilangan fast food bukan menjadi ukuran....even dekat sesebuah bandar ada 20 KFC....just supplementary....banyak lagi perkara lain yang mesti diambil kira such as kemudahan insfrastruktur,bilangan shoplots,bilangan highrise, community building and so many la....


ape yang best kat Felda Triang,Bera pun dah ade marrybrown....wah.... maju je Triang skang nie
:)

just my 10cent....

^^
bilangan fast food bukan menjadi ukuran....even dekat sesebuah bandar ada 20 KFC....just supplementary....banyak lagi perkara lain yang mesti diambil kira such as kemudahan insfrastruktur,bilangan shoplots,bilangan highrise, community building and so many la....


ape yang best kat Felda Triang,Bera pun dah ade marrybrown....wah.... maju je Triang skang nie
:)

just my 10cent....

ukuran?ukuran ape?pembangunan sebuah tempat?erm..dia mmg menjadi ukuran..sekurang2nya salah satu indicator kemajuan sesuatu tempat..sebab ape?sebab bila ada fast food chain bermakna ada demand. bila ada demand ada kuasa membeli..bila ada kuasa membeli bermakna rakyat mempunyai kedudukan kewangan yang kukuh..

wow ! Batu Pahat is very fast growing....
btw, how many fast food restaurant there?

I think BP has 5 or 6 KFCs, 3 McDs, 1 Domino's, 2 Tutti Futti, 3 Pizza Huts, Marrybrown I dont know... Nahh, between year 2006-2009, yess BP is booming and growing fast but it has become slower now. Muar and Kluang are now catching up to BP. Muar might be still a Kampong-town, so u can count it out but Kluang is now growing real fast n offers a lil bit of city-like lifestyles compare to BP.

ukuran?ukuran ape?pembangunan sebuah tempat?erm..dia mmg menjadi ukuran..sekurang2nya salah satu indicator kemajuan sesuatu tempat..sebab ape?sebab bila ada fast food chain bermakna ada demand. bila ada demand ada kuasa membeli..bila ada kuasa membeli bermakna rakyat mempunyai kedudukan kewangan yang kukuh..

thats right.... :)
aku cuma nak cakap kat triang dah ade marrybrown je....tu je....xde cakap ape-ape pun yang terpesong

F&B chain in Sungai Petani:

1. KFC - 7
2. Mc D - 1
3. Secret Recipe - 2
4. Pizza Hut - 2
5. Tutti Frutti - 1
6. The Chicken Rice Shop - 1
7. Q Bistro - 1
8. A&W - 1
9. Station One - 1
10. RFC - 2
11. Rotiboy - 1
12. Old Town White Coffee - 1

many more Nasi Kandar outlets

IMO,

Taiping
Sg Petani,
Miri,
Sandakan,
Batu Bahat,
Muar,

Other possibility,

Kluang,
Termerloh / Mentakab,
Sibu,
Kuala Dungun / Kemaman,
Kulim

At this moment that all.

Meanwhile, how about Grik, Gua Musang, Gemas, Segamat, Mersing, Tawau, Bintulu, Gurun, Teluk Intan, Parit Buntar, Kuala Kangsar, Bidor, Kuala Selangor, Port Dickson, Raub, Karak, Pekan, Yong Peng,

Any idea?

F&B chain in Sungai Petani:

1. KFC - 7
2. Mc D - 1
3. Secret Recipe - 2
4. Pizza Hut - 2
5. Tutti Frutti - 1
6. The Chicken Rice Shop - 1
7. Q Bistro - 1
8. A&W - 1
9. Station One - 1
10. RFC - 2
11. Rotiboy - 1
12. Old Town White Coffee - 1

many more Nasi Kandar outlets

Starbucks Coffee - 1 :cheers:

Meanwhile, how about Grik, Gua Musang, Gemas, Segamat, Mersing, Tawau, Bintulu, Gurun, Teluk Intan, Parit Buntar, Kuala Kangsar, Bidor, Kuala Selangor, Port Dickson, Raub, Karak, Pekan, Yong Peng,

Any idea?

It's hard to make comparison between most of these towns but I'll rank all these towns based from the economy aka the amount of yearly tax collected by their respective PBT.

1) MP Port Dickson - 51.42 mil

2) MD Kuala Selangor - 43.03 mil

3) MP Tawau - 36.13

4) MD Segamat - 19.82 mil
5) MP Teluk Intan - 16.47 mil

6) MP Kuala Kangsar -13.65
7) MD Kerian @ Parit Buntar - 12.61 mil
8) MD Yong Peng - 9.67 mil

9) MD Mersing - 6.53 mil
10) MD Gua Musang 4.32 mil
11) MD Grik 4.13 mil

Gurun - It's a small town under MP Sungai Petani. MP Petani collects roughly about 48 mill/year

Bidor - Teluk Intan is much,much,much better than Bidor.

Gemas - It's a small town, under MD Tampin. MD Tampin collcts roughly bout 23 mill/year.

IMO, anything below Parit Buntar or Yong Peng is not worth discussing/comparing coz it's irrelevant.

Sources: http://www.audit.gov.my

even Bagan Serai, Perak bukanlah sebuah bandar tapi kat sana dah ada Marrybrown... dah dekat 1o tahun rasanya :cheers:

Dan ada Apollo

Bandar Kluang



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by lifeasanordinarymalaysian (http://lifeasanordinarymalaysian.blogspot.com/2011/02/kluang-town.html)


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by My Way (http://syam-myway.blogspot.com/2008_07_01_archive.html)

http://kluangmall.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/kluang-mall-night-view.jpg?w=655&h=396
by kluangmall (http://kluangmall.wordpress.com/)

It's hard to make comparison between most of these towns but I'll rank all these towns based from the economy aka the amount of yearly tax collected by their respective PBT.

1) MP Port Dickson - 51.42 mil

2) MD Kuala Selangor - 43.03 mil

3) MP Tawau - 36.13

4) MD Segamat - 19.82 mil
5) MP Teluk Intan - 16.47 mil

6) MP Kuala Kangsar -13.65
7) MD Kerian @ Parit Buntar - 12.61 mil
8) MD Yong Peng - 9.67 mil

9) MD Mersing - 6.53 mil
10) MD Gua Musang 4.32 mil
11) MD Grik 4.13 mil

Gurun - It's a small town under MP Sungai Petani. MP Petani collects roughly about 48 mill/year

Bidor - Teluk Intan is much,much,much better than Bidor.

Gemas - It's a small town, under MD Tampin. MD Tampin collcts roughly bout 23 mill/year.

IMO, anything below Parit Buntar or Yong Peng is not worth discussing/comparing coz it's irrelevant.

Sources: http://www.audit.gov.my

^^
where did u get this number?? I :)

Starbucks Coffee - 1 :cheers:

betul Pathoboy..lupa :nuts:

F&B chain in Sungai Petani:

1. KFC - 7
2. Mc D - 1
3. Secret Recipe - 2
4. Pizza Hut - 2
5. Tutti Frutti - 1
6. The Chicken Rice Shop - 1
7. Q Bistro - 1
8. A&W - 1
9. Station One - 1
10. RFC - 2
11. Rotiboy - 1
12. Old Town White Coffee - 1

many more Nasi Kandar outlets

How about Old town white coffee at Tesco Selatan.
Ka dah tutup?

It's hard to make comparison between most of these towns but I'll rank all these towns based from the economy aka the amount of yearly tax collected by their respective PBT.

1) MP Port Dickson - 51.42 mil

2) MD Kuala Selangor - 43.03 mil

3) MP Tawau - 36.13

4) MD Segamat - 19.82 mil
5) MP Teluk Intan - 16.47 mil

6) MP Kuala Kangsar -13.65
7) MD Kerian @ Parit Buntar - 12.61 mil
8) MD Yong Peng - 9.67 mil

9) MD Mersing - 6.53 mil
10) MD Gua Musang 4.32 mil
11) MD Grik 4.13 mil

Gurun - It's a small town under MP Sungai Petani. MP Petani collects roughly about 48 mill/year

Bidor - Teluk Intan is much,much,much better than Bidor.

Gemas - It's a small town, under MD Tampin. MD Tampin collcts roughly bout 23 mill/year.

IMO, anything below Parit Buntar or Yong Peng is not worth discussing/comparing coz it's irrelevant.

Sources: http://www.audit.gov.my

Segamat dan Yong Peng di Johor kan? Sikitnyer kutipan cukai... Tak lah maju mana pon bandar-bandar kat Johor tu..

How about Old town white coffee at Tesco Selatan.
Ka dah tutup?

ada lagi
so Old Town White Coffee - 2 lah :nuts:

^^
where did u get this number?? I :)

pergi dekat laman sesawang yg Mr Caius the Shadow bagi http://www.audit.gov.my then pergi dekat Laporan Ketua Audit Negara then pilih negeri.Then klik kat PENYATA KEWANGAN KERAJAAN NEGERI DAN PENGURUSAN KEWANGAN JABATAN/AGENSI NEGERI JOHOR TAHUN 2010 untuk negeri Johor atau pilih negeri yang kita nak kt atas tu.Lepas itu cari muka surat untuk PENYERAHAN, PENGESAHAN, PEMBENTANGAN PENYATA KEWANGAN DAN PRESTASI KEWANGAN AGENSI NEGERI yang ada kat dalam kandungan tu..Lepas tu jumpa lah.. :cheers:

Parit Buntar

KFC - 2
Secret Recipe - 1
Pizza Hut - 1
Bubble Gurt Frozen & Yogurt - 1
Old Town White Coffee - 1
Econsave - 1
Billion Hypermarket - 1

^^ no need to discuss about F&B outlets list here.not related to the main topic.haha.:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:



p/s:please do not off topic.

^^ no need to discuss about F&B outlets list here.not related to the main topic.haha.:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:



p/s:please do not off topic.

ya lah. i was thinking of the same too. what's the point of indicating 'see? my hometown has many F&B outlets!' ? :lol:

To add extra information which covers Sandakan, though the source does not from the national audit, but from the Sandakan municipal council (MPS) themselves.

http://www.newsabahtimes.com.my/nstweb/fullstory/55216

The total revenue for MPS (Sandakan) in 2011 was RM 52.56 million.

Johorean Towns

Batu Pahat
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8013/7494592354_3c15361fda_b.jpg
by Ezuandy (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ezuandy/7494592354/)

Kluang
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7118/7528035388_92b1c979b2_b.jpg
by jeremewong (http://www.flickr.com/photos/h2obaby/7528035388/)

Segamat
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7217/7232966476_26a8d990f1_b.jpg
by UmmAbdrahmaan (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ummabdrahmaan/7232966476/in/photostream/)

^^
Batu Pahat and Kluang is competing with each other to be the 2nd most develop town after JB City :)

Dont forget Muar!!!! :lol::lol::lol:

I would rate Kluang above BP because Kluang is much more pedestrian friendly compare to BP. Just park at Prime City Hotel and you can pretty much go to anywhere. Bus station, Kluang Mall, Kluang Parade, eating at F&B outlet (Domino;s KFC, McD, Tutti, restaurants). All in a 2km radius

Johorean Towns

Muar
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6184/6052742079_b9821800be_b.jpg
by Tuah Roslan (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ainst/6052742079/in/photostream/)

Kota Tinggi
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5299/5516153721_38f955838c_b.jpg
by js_mugen (http://www.flickr.com/photos/59819725@N03/5516153721/in/photostream/)

Mersing
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7073/7309992126_8d2d3ba2b9_b.jpg
by vivas 1437 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/26584055@N08/7309992126/)

Dont forget Muar!!!! :lol::lol::lol:

I would rate Kluang above BP because Kluang is much more pedestrian friendly compare to BP. Just park at Prime City Hotel and you can pretty much go to anywhere. Bus station, Kluang Mall, Kluang Parade, eating at F&B outlet (Domino;s KFC, McD, Tutti, restaurants). All in a 2km radius

Kluang Town have lots of Kopitiam Restaurant... I'm willing to travel there just to have tea in the evening.. Really good environment :)

.......... AS, SP dan Kulim tewaskan semua bandar-bandar lain laa

.......... AS, SP dan Kulim tewaskan semua bandar-bandar lain laa

Maaf yer yg lain, komen dia ni tak mewakili semua forumer Kedah... abaikan jer apa yg dia tulis ni. haha

:doh:

.......... AS, SP dan Kulim tewaskan semua bandar-bandar lain laa

Oh yeka? Data yang ada menunjukkan tidak.

Muar+Ledang : Population 384 809 : 0.86% GDP
Batu Pahat : Population 417 458 : 0.93%
Kluang : 298 332 : 0.66%
Taiping : 334 073 :0.77%
Manjung : 232 277 : 0.53 %
Sungai Petani : Population 456 605 : 0.77% GDP
Kulim : 287 694 : 0.49%

Jadi jika dikira turutan kekuatan ekonomi, ini turutannya:

1)Batu Pahat
2)Muar
3)Taiping/Sungai Petani
5)Kluang
6)Manjung
7)Kulim

Buat sedikit kiraan matematik ya adik. huh

Sources: KDNK 2010, Iskandar Malaysia Websites, Bancian Penduduk 2010

Dari segi figure mcm tu la.. But still Kulim remain one THE most influential and important industrial hub in Malaysia

Oh yeka? Data yang ada menunjukkan tidak.

Muar+Ledang : Population 384 809 : 0.86% GDP
Batu Pahat : Population 417 458 : 0.93%
Kluang : 298 332 : 0.66%
Taiping : 334 073 :0.77%
Manjung : 232 277 : 0.53 %
Sungai Petani : Population 456 605 : 0.77% GDP
Kulim : 287 694 : 0.49%

Jadi jika dikira turutan kekuatan ekonomi, ini turutannya:

1)Batu Pahat
2)Muar
3)Taiping/Sungai Petani
5)Kluang
6)Manjung
7)Kulim

Buat sedikit kiraan matematik ya adik. huh

Sources: KDNK 2010, Iskandar Malaysia Websites, Bancian Penduduk 2010
don't mind him pal. i bet the statistics that you have given are too much for his intelligence.

but he's kinda interesting to be honest. he just made my day. his posts have never failed to make me giggle. :lol:

Oh yeka? Data yang ada menunjukkan tidak.

Muar+Ledang : Population 384 809 : 0.86% GDP
Batu Pahat : Population 417 458 : 0.93%
Kluang : 298 332 : 0.66%
Taiping : 334 073 :0.77%
Manjung : 232 277 : 0.53 %
Sungai Petani : Population 456 605 : 0.77% GDP
Kulim : 287 694 : 0.49%

Jadi jika dikira turutan kekuatan ekonomi, ini turutannya:

1)Batu Pahat
2)Muar
3)Taiping/Sungai Petani
5)Kluang
6)Manjung
7)Kulim

Buat sedikit kiraan matematik ya adik. huh

Sources: KDNK 2010, Iskandar Malaysia Websites, Bancian Penduduk 2010

Where do you get the gdp figure from?

Anyway here is the gdp per capita for Johore's districts

JB Conurbation (Iskandar)
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/7307/kdnkjb.jpg

Batu Pahat
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/3917/kdnkbatupahat.jpg

Muar
http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/3901/kdnkmuar.jpg

Kluang
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/6926/kdnkkluang.jpg

Segamat
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/5009/kdnksegamat.jpg

Source:
www.johordt.gov.my/jpbd/pdf/dokumen_terbitan/Handbook.pdf

Where do you get the gdp figure from?

Anyway here is the gdp per capita for Johore's districts

JB Conurbation (Iskandar)
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/7307/kdnkjb.jpg

Batu Pahat
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/3917/kdnkbatupahat.jpg

Muar
http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/3901/kdnkmuar.jpg

Kluang
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/6926/kdnkkluang.jpg

Segamat
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/5009/kdnksegamat.jpg

Source:
www.johordt.gov.my/jpbd/pdf/dokumen_terbitan/Handbook.pdf

This the info that I want. Been looking for this thing for ages!! :banana::banana:

I just made a simple calculation of :

x
- x z
y

x = Population of town/district
y= the state population
z = GDP contribution percentage by each state.

Of course it's accuracy is not that 100% accurate but we can consider it as the general reference to measure the economic strength of a town. After all with the exception of KL, Penang and JB, most of the towns in Malaysia are pretty much on the same level with minimum standard deviation among each other.

don't mind him pal. i bet the statistics that you have given are too much for his intelligence.

but he's kinda interesting to be honest. he just made my day. his posts have never failed to make me giggle. :lol:

Yeahh, I wasted my time on that... I traced back all of his posts, cant believe taht we have that kind of forumers in here.. I suspect that he' still in primary school.. :lol:

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mungin golo ni bukan orang kedah tapi berasal dari sebuah negeri yang terkenal sebagai pemecah belah.. nak laga2 kan orang.. paham2 sendiri la..

negeri mane tu?

.......... AS, SP dan Kulim tewaskan semua bandar-bandar lain laa

Tak pernah keluar dari Kedah ke? :sly:

negeri mane tu?

ISKETAMBOLA...

please be understand.i'm not forumer name:golo.if i had make any additional username,then the moderator will banned my newest username.please do not accuse me as golo ! i'm not him/her ! please be understand. i'm only has 1 username ! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mungin golo ni bukan orang kedah tapi berasal dari sebuah negeri yang terkenal sebagai pemecah belah.. nak laga2 kan orang.. paham2 sendiri la..

negeri mana kat malaysia ni yg terkenal sebagai pemecah belah? x baik generalize kan negeri org camtu..hang nak marah,marah la individu,jgn hang plak jadi x matang kat sini..

negeri mana kat malaysia ni yg terkenal sebagai pemecah belah? x baik generalize kan negeri org camtu..hang nak marah,marah la individu,jgn hang plak jadi x matang kat sini..ok.. sorry.. aku delete komen tu..

ok.. sorry.. aku delete komen tu..

ok setel..:)

please be understand.i'm not forumer name:golo.if i had make any additional username,then the moderator will banned my newest username.please do not accuse me as golo ! i'm not him/her ! please be understand. i'm only has 1 username ! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
^^
apasal lak kau merepek ni?
sapa yg tuduh kau Golo

where is golo? the reason why i logged in today was just to read more posts from golo. his posts are hilarious. :lol:

golo, please keep on posting. you are a genius. :troll:

Oh yeka? Data yang ada menunjukkan tidak.

Muar+Ledang : Population 384 809 : 0.86% GDP
Batu Pahat : Population 417 458 : 0.93%
Kluang : 298 332 : 0.66%
Taiping : 334 073 :0.77%
Manjung : 232 277 : 0.53 %
Sungai Petani : Population 456 605 : 0.77% GDP
Kulim : 287 694 : 0.49%

Jadi jika dikira turutan kekuatan ekonomi, ini turutannya:

1)Batu Pahat
2)Muar
3)Taiping/Sungai Petani
5)Kluang
6)Manjung
7)Kulim

Buat sedikit kiraan matematik ya adik. huh

Sources: KDNK 2010, Iskandar Malaysia Websites, Bancian Penduduk 2010

If the above facts or figures you provided are correct:

The ranking order (income per capital) should be: (GDP/Population)
1. Taiping
2. Manjung
3. Muar
4. Batu Pahat
5. Kluang
6. Kulim
7. Sungai Patani

golo the gigolo... entah dok meniaga badan kat stesen KTM aloq staq :lol: tu dok rasa Kedah maju lagi dr KL..

If the above facts or figures you provided are correct:

The ranking order (income per capital) should be: (GDP/Population)
1. Taiping
2. Manjung
3. Muar
4. Batu Pahat
5. Kluang
6. Kulim
7. Sungai Patani

Boleh pakai.. cause we tend to judge based on income per capita right?! :cheers:

Yeahh, I wasted my time on that... I traced back all of his posts, cant believe taht we have that kind of forumers in here.. I suspect that he' still in primary school.. :lol:

agreed with you... ^^

golo the gigolo? wakaka, pulak tu ada yg tiba2 melompat tak mengaku golo :lol:

golo the gigolo? wakaka, pulak tu ada yg tiba2 melompat tak mengaku golo :lol:

I think it is better not make fun of username/fake name. Every name can be changed to something bad or good if I want to do so.:) Especially if you know many languages.

Where do you get the gdp figure from?

Anyway here is the gdp per capita for Johore's districts

JB Conurbation (Iskandar)
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/7307/kdnkjb.jpg

Batu Pahat
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/3917/kdnkbatupahat.jpg

Muar
http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/3901/kdnkmuar.jpg

Kluang
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/6926/kdnkkluang.jpg

Segamat
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/5009/kdnksegamat.jpg

Source:
www.johordt.gov.my/jpbd/pdf/dokumen_terbitan/Handbook.pdfJuly 19, 2012 20:00 PM

Cabinet Approves Building Of Pagoh Higher Education Hub (http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v6/newsgeneral.php?id=681968)

MUAR, July 19 (Bernama) -- Deputy Prime Minister Tan Sri Muhyiddin Yassin said the Cabinet had approved the building of phase one of the proposed Pagoh Higher Education Hub involving an allocation of RM1 billion.

He said the decision was made yesterday and the environmental-friendly project would be built phase by phase beginning the year-end involving the construction of three universities and one polytechnic.

According to him, the first university to be built there would be Universiti Tun Hussein Onn (UtHM) as the existing main campus in Batu Pahat could not be expanded.

"The other university campuses to be built at the Pagoh hub are that of Universiti Teknologi Malaysia (UTM) and Universiti Teknologi Mara (UiTM), as well as the polytechnic which will all be built in stages within three to four years."

Muhyiddin said this after a gathering with government pensioners in the Pagoh parliamentary constituency at Kompleks Seri Pekembar, here, Thursday.

He said all the universities would be built on a 202ha site and would be sharing facilities such as the sports complex and library, also to be built at the site.

"When the first phase of the project is completed, it can accommodate 10,000 students at any one time."

Besides that, he said, Sime Darby as the owner of the land, would also be building hostels, shophouses and houses which could boost the area's economy.

He said the government had also asked the Higher Education Ministry to invite foreign universities to set up their branch campus at the hub.

He added that Institut Teknologi Bandung had already expressed interest to set up a campus here.


-- BERNAMAketika handbook ni dibuat, bandar universiti pagoh masih belum ada dalam perancangan.. setelah projek ini siap dibina, GDP per capita daerah muar akan meningkat..

If the above facts or figures you provided are correct:

The ranking order (income per capital) should be: (GDP/Population)
1. Taiping
2. Manjung
3. Muar
4. Batu Pahat
5. Kluang
6. Kulim
7. Sungai Patani

Yes but made this calculation without taking consideration about the impact of Ipoh City towards Perak's total GDP. In Johor, JB area contributes 60% of 9.5 % GDP which equals to 5.7%. This leaves other parts of Johor to contribute 3.8%. I'm quite sure similar situation happens in Perak.

Can anyone give me any GDP data about these 3 cities:

1. Ipoh
2.Kuantan
3. Kota Bharu

I personally believe the economic strength of KB/Kuantan/Ipoh rivals/slightly below the like of Malacca/Seremban but without enough data, the number that come out after calculation shows otherwise.

Oh yeka? Data yang ada menunjukkan tidak.

Muar+Ledang : Population 384 809 : 0.86% GDP
Batu Pahat : Population 417 458 : 0.93%
Kluang : 298 332 : 0.66%
Taiping : 334 073 :0.77%
Manjung : 232 277 : 0.53 %
Sungai Petani : Population 456 605 : 0.77% GDP
Kulim : 287 694 : 0.49%

Jadi jika dikira turutan kekuatan ekonomi, ini turutannya:

1)Batu Pahat
2)Muar
3)Taiping/Sungai Petani
5)Kluang
6)Manjung
7)Kulim

Buat sedikit kiraan matematik ya adik. huh

Sources: KDNK 2010, Iskandar Malaysia Websites, Bancian Penduduk 2010

Penipu besar! Kulim bawah Kluang, Batu Pahat, Muar, Manjung, Taiping? Pernah datang Kedah ke tak ni?

^^

Do your homework young boy. I had stated my sources.

nice ar johor state..
now let's see what are the economic activities

Muar (source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muar_town)
Muar is internationally wellknown as the hub of the furniture industry of Malaysia. Industrial estates within Muar district are located at Tanjung Agas, Bukit Bakri, Jorak, Parit Bakar, Pagoh and Tangkak. There are notably three big factories of multinational companies, i.e. STMicroelectronics, Micron Semiconductor Malaysia, (MICRON) and Pioneer at Tanjung Agas. The shopping centres and supermarkets or hypermarkets in Muar are Wetex Parade, The Store, Giant Hypermarket, Econsave, Astaka Shopping Centre, Lagenda Complex, K-Mall and Hentian Maharani. The town is robust of business and trading activities, with many old traditional Chinese shops offering variety of products at reasonable and attractive price. Muar agriculture is mainly made up of the major crops of rubber and oil palm beside some coconut, cocoa, fruits (durian, rambutan, duku, mangosteen, banana, papaya, pineapple, dragon fruit etc.), vegetables and livestock, poultry and fish farming. Fishing are the major economy of some fishing villages like Parit Jawa, Parit Raja, Parit Tiram, and Kesang.

Batu Pahat (source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batu_Pahat_(city))
Batu Pahat is Johor's second largest manufacturing industrial town; encompassing textiles, electronics, food-processing, timber, porcelain and plastic industry. It produces 50% of the textile exported from Malaysia and there are about 300 garment and textile factories.
Agriculture is another important source of income for the locals. Batu Pahat has some of the largest rubber, oil palm, coconut and cocoa plantations in Johor. Fruit produce such as watermelons, papayas, bananas, pineapples, durians and 20 varieties of vegetables are exported. There are also several fishing villages near the Strait of Malacca, providing rich sources of fisheries. Ornamental fish such as the arowana are major exports for some companies such as Xiang Leng.

Kluang (source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kluang)
From its early days as an entirely agricultural economy, Kluang has developed various industries including polymer, paper, textiles, ceramics, industrial paints and electrical products. Most of Malaysia's major banks have branches in Kluang. In the last few years, several stock brokerages have opened shop in Kluang.

sorry for copy and paste:runaway:

Penipu besar! Kulim bawah Kluang, Batu Pahat, Muar, Manjung, Taiping? Pernah datang Kedah ke tak ni?

welcome back bro. i am your number 1 fan. :lol:

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according to mr wikipedia too, ST Muar was built in 1974 and is now an assembly plant.

Food and beverage franchise stores

Kentucky Fried Chicken (7 stores - 2 in Muar town, 2 in Tanjung Agas, 1 in Bukit Pasir, 1 in Bukit Gambir, 1 in Tangkak)
McDonald's (1 store)
Pizza Hut (4 stores - 3 in Muar town, 1 in Tangkak)
Baskin Robbins (1 store)
Tutti Frutti (1 store)
Old Town White Coffee (1 store)
Sushi King (1 store)
Secret Recipe (1 store)

source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muar_town#Food_and_beverage_franchise_stores

Guys, somehow I get a weird feeling taht we are hijacking this thread.. Let's move all the irrelevant post to the appropriate thread.