AEG haven't found the money to finance the new arena in Ørestaden:
http://www.berlingske.dk/article/20090616/koebenhavn/90616153/
...:ohno:Dont have anything else to add than :ohno:

AEG haven't found the money to finance the new arena in Ørestaden:
http://www.berlingske.dk/article/20090616/koebenhavn/90616153/
...:ohno:


Den nye multiarena, som efter planen skal stå færdig 1. juli 2013, får plads til 15.000 siddende tilskuere og skal placeres i Ørestaden Syd tæt på storcenteret Field’s og Bella Center.


"Kun" 15.000 siddende tilskuere... Det er jo samme størrelse som Malmø Arena. Skulle københavns multiarena ikke have været lidt større?

I wouldn't worry. There's still time.

^^
True...but still annoying. But pretty much what you could expect atm.

I wouldn't worry. There's still time.

Still time...? If such a big company can't/won't raise the money within a fw month's time, I have no faith in them doing it if given a few extra month. It is the will that lacks, not time. They won't cgange their mind until times change - which will take years.:(

^^ Agree with you on that.

Does anybody know when construction was scheduled to start (if that even was decided)? I wouldn't be surprised if this will move the scheduled opening even further away (IF it'll ever be opened in this format).

^^ Agree with you on that.

Does anybody know when construction was scheduled to start (if that even was decided)? I wouldn't be surprised if this will move the scheduled opening even further away (IF it'll ever be opened in this format).
2011 I think, not to sure though.

But doesn't look bright /:

Ok, I thought that the Copenhagen multiarena was going for a larger capcity than 15.000, but perhaps that size is optimal? Some posts back in this thread people talked about 50.000 seats. It's even in this paper dating back to august 2008:

http://avisen.dk/arena-med-plads-til-50000-i-koebenhavn_97479.aspx

Btw. Politiken is running a story about shops going out of business in the Fields shopping mall in Ørestaden due to a combination of high rent and to few customers.

http://politiken.dk/tjek/dagligliv/husholdning/article732905.ece

Ok, I thought that the Copenhagen multiarena was going for a larger capcity than 15.000, but perhaps that size is optimal? Some posts back in this thread people talked about 50.000 seats. It's even in this paper dating back to august 2008:

http://avisen.dk/arena-med-plads-til-50000-i-koebenhavn_97479.aspx

Btw. Politiken is running a story about shops going out of business in the Fields shopping mall in Ørestaden due to a combination of high rent and to few customers.

http://politiken.dk/tjek/dagligliv/husholdning/article732905.ece
That proposal lost to AEG :)

From berlingske today. Let's hope they employ different tactics than Hyskenstræde. I have to admit that I am quite worried, especially after what happened in Hyskenstræde. I think the police sent all the wrong signals with their "no-action" strategy.



Udsigten til 30.000 hårdhudede aktivister i baghaven bekymrer flere beboere i Ørestad, der i december lægger jord til det største topmøde på dansk grund nogensinde. Politiet håber på hjælp fra borgerne, når det går løs.

Af Søren Aaes
Sidst opdateret Onsdag den 17. juni 2009, 07:28

Udbrændte biler, smadrede ruder og tonsvis af affald i gaderne er nogle af de skrækscenarier, beboerne i Ørestad ser for sig, når FN's store klimatopmøde finder sted i december.

Det kom frem på et orienteringsmøde i Bella Center, hvor beboerne var mødt frem for at høre, hvad der sker med bydelen, når 12.000-15.000 topmødedeltagere og et måske endnu større antal aktivister, kommer på besøg.

- Hele København inviterer til stor fest, men det lyder på det hele som om, at det er os, der hænger på efterregningen, siger Jonathan Herrik, der bor i V-huset kun 300 meter fra Bella Center, der lægger lokaler til topmødet.

Flere af deltagerne på gårsdagens beboermøde var urolige for, om de kommer til at betale for smadrede biler og ruder, hvis det ikke lykkes politiet, at tøjle de mange demonstranter, der uværgeligt vil forsøge at komme tæt på topmødet.

Som det var tilfældet under urolighederne efter rydningen af ungdomshuset, er det beboerne selv der dækker de skader, der måtte opstå som følge af hærværk på biler, huse og cykler.

- Hvis topmødet bliver en succes, er der mange der står i kø for at tage æren. Men hvis det går galt, er det os, der står med problemet, siger Jonathan Herrik.

Politiet beder om hjælp

Chefpolitiinspektør ved Københavns Politi, Per Larsen, var også til stede på beboermødet, og han beroligede tilhørerne med, at Københavns politi er godt forberedt.

- Det her er den største opgave i politiets historie og vi får rigtig mange folk på benene. Vi har et par hundrede mand i gang med at planlægge sikkerheden under topmødet og vi forventer at det forløber fredeligt. Men hvis det ikke gør, er det selvfølgelig vores opgave at undgå skadevirkningerne og forhindre ballade, siger Per Larsen.

Chefpolitiinspektøren var ikke meget for at afsløre politiets foranstaltninger i detaljer, men det blev slået fast, at politiet i samarbejde med hjemmeværnet, kommer til at styre trafikken i området med hård hånd i de to uger topmødet varer - blandt andet ved hjælp af chikaner.

Samtidig vil der bliver opstillet massive betonblokke på fortorvet omkring hele topmødeområdet, så nogen ikke får den idé, at køre en 20 tons tung lastbil ind i Bella Center, som Per Larsen formulerede det.

Han appellerede samtidig til, at beboerne holder øjne og ører åbne, og tipper politiet, hvis de ser noget mistænkeligt.

- Vi har gode erfaringer med at alliere os med omverdenen i den slags situationer. Og vi har en bøn til beboerne om at være en del af sikkerheden omkring topmødet og hjælpe os, sagde han.

Bella Centers adm. direktør, Arne Bang Mikkelsen, lovede på mødet, at han ville undersøge forsikringsforholdene for beboerne i området, og holde et nyt møde i efteråret, når flere detaljer var på plads.

Samtidig lovede Udenrigsministeriets repræsentant på mødet, kontorchef Svend Olling, at notere sig borgernes bekymring om topmødets skadevirkninger.

AEG haven't found the money to finance the new arena in Ørestaden:
http://www.berlingske.dk/article/20090616/koebenhavn/90616153/
...:ohno:

That is the number one reason I have been very iffy about this project from the start. It relied on AEG finding money, that noone else have been able to, in the last 10 years of trying...

Btw. Politiken is running a story about shops going out of business in the Fields shopping mall in Ørestaden due to a combination of high rent and to few customers.

http://politiken.dk/tjek/dagligliv/husholdning/article732905.ece

Ingen tvivl om at Field's også er ramt af finanskrisen, men storcentre og discount plejer at klare sig relativt godt i krisetider. Du skal tænke på at politiken skriver til det grønne segment (radikale, SF og akademiker-socialdemokraten), hvis yndlingsaversion er storcentre. Så tag det med et gran salt. Specialbutikkerne i indre by og på brokvarterne vil historiske set bliver hårdere ramt, da de ligger højere i Maslows behovspyramide og derved er mere konjunkturfølsomme.

...Det grønne segment :uh:

...Det grønne segment :uh:

Ja, jeg taler minerva modellen - muligvis miljøskadet af mit arbejde. :)

Ps. Der er en ny stor opdatering på vej.

Ja, jeg taler minerva modellen - muligvis miljøskadet af mit arbejde. :)

Ps. Der er en ny stor opdatering på vej.
Can't wait:lol: Visited SSC right on time then! :D

That is the number one reason I have been very iffy about this project from the start. It relied on AEG finding money, that noone else have been able to, in the last 10 years of trying...

Take it easy. They have until october to get the financing in place. Probably some of their investors have been hit hard by the crises. Not at all surpricing.

Looks like the North Tower has gone UC - or is it just another atrium (yawn ;)?

http://i39.tinypic.com/wsok7s.jpg

Looks like the North Tower has gone UC - or is it just another atrium (yawn ;)?

http://i39.tinypic.com/wsok7s.jpg

It's the Atrium

Take it easy. They have until october to get the financing in place. Probably some of their investors have been hit hard by the crises. Not at all surpricing.

I am calm as a freshly slaughtered pig. I am simply saying, the project need financing, that noone has been ble to find in the last 10 years. And they need to find it, in a very muddy financial climate...

maybe a bit OT but might be interesting: http://www.dr.dk/P1/Reportagen/Oerestad/20090504150339.htm

/Nicolaj

Some good news from the latest version of Ørestad Avis:

A combined bakery and deli will open in VM Bjerget during the fall.

104 flats for elder people will be built in Ørestad Syd next to Stævnen. The project will start in January 2010.

These news are not on Ørestad Avis' website but only in the paper edition.

Great news:

Dansk Industri moves to Ørestad (http://www.byoghavn.dk/areal-presse/aus2-nyheder/aus2-nyhed-visning.htm?newsId=17957)

North Tower seems awfully close.

Great news:

Dansk Industri moves to Ørestad (http://www.byoghavn.dk/areal-presse/aus2-nyheder/aus2-nyhed-visning.htm?newsId=17957)

North Tower seems awfully close.

Indeed good news, but it can't see who the North Tower are more close for that reason.

Great news regarding DI. It will boost Copenhagen Towers and generate more people/activity to Ørestad – and that's a good thing.

SA combined bakery and deli will open in VM Bjerget during the fall.

Outstanding!! Hopefully they'll have good bread and espresso. I'm there.

Indeed good news, but it can't see who the North Tower are more close for that reason.

As stated in the press release, the phase 1 of Copenhagen Tower is now fully booked, and that must mean that phase 2, North Tower, is somewhat closer.

Outstanding!! Hopefully they'll have good bread and espresso. I'm there.

They WILL!! :banana:
It is not just a bakery it is Wulff & Constali from Instand Brygge! Indeed one of the best places to buy bread!! I'm such a big fan and so so happy that they move out here. it will make the trip for breakfast a lot shorter :banana:

Hi guys

First of all i'm sorry that i'm a bit late this month but i have been sick (so has the other Lars) and before that busy on my work.

Indeed a lot of good news this month regarding Ørestad: Dansk Industri moving to south wing, the new backery in VM-bjerget, a new UC in Ørestad S. and Copenhagen Towers ready for Obama in november. By the way have you noticed that the amount of appartments for sale on Edvard Thomsens Vej have gone from 105 last year to 16 right now - and they are being sold - 4 sold alone in Cityhusene this month.

We are starting out by taking a look on Golfpark 3 + 4 on Edvard Thomsens Vej and Arne Jacobsen Allé:

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/Picture001-1.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/Picture002-1.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/Picture003-1.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/Picture004-1.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/Picture005-1.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/Picture006-1.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/Picture007-1.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/Picture017-2.jpg

^^ notice the finishing of the golf course near the golfpark

Cab Inn
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/Picture008-1.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/Picture009-1.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/Picture010-1.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/Picture011-1.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/Picture012-1.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/Picture013-1.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/Picture014-1.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/Picture015-1.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/Picture016-2.jpg

^^ They have to be finished the 1. of July - I think not :ohno:

Copenhagen Towers

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/Picture018-1.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/Picture019-1.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/Picture020-1.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/Picture022-2.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/Picture023-2.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/Picture024-1.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/Picture025-1.jpg

^^ Try to compare this with the photo update from May, it's really amazing how they are speeding up on this project - it's going to be huge.

Rambøll

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/Picture021-1.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/Picture028.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/Picture029.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/Picture031.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/Picture032.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/Picture033-1.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/Picture034.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/Picture036-1.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/Picture039-2.jpg

Ferring - my favourite project - even though I think Bella Hotel will become even more cool.

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/Picture027.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/Picture037-1.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/Picture038-2.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/Picture041-1.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/Picture042-2.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/Picture043-2.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/Picture044-2.jpg

^^ The entrance to the parkingbasement on the westside of the building opposite the metrostation.

Winghouse

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/Picture045-2.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/Picture046-2.jpg

Ørestad Avis

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/Picture047-2.jpg

^^They are moving into VM - bjerget. The car you can see in the reflection is a Renault Megane 1,6 RN hatchback from 1998 - it's yours for 19.000 Dkr.

Bella Hotel - note have big this thing is - they are constantly expanding the area of the building site, we are talking almost the size of Copenhagen Towers part 1. I would really like to see this place from a helicopter :nuts:

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/Picture048-2.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/Picture049-2.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/Picture050-2.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/Picture051-2.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/Picture052-2.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/Picture053-2.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/Picture054-2.jpg

And the last picture is a night photo from about 23.50 last night.

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/Picture069-1.jpg

It's from the southside of Cab Inn Hotel. I know it's a bad quality but i first noticed the sign this night.

^^ Thanks for another great update, Lars_HH!

Yeah thanks for the update! Copenhagen towers sure is looking impressive..:cheers:

Indeed thanks:-)

They WILL!! :banana:
It is not just a bakery it is Wulff & Constali from Instand Brygge! Indeed one of the best places to buy bread!! I'm such a big fan and so so happy that they move out here. it will make the trip for breakfast a lot shorter :banana:

You're KIDDING me! I love that place! Well, maybe I can even take a little bit of credit here. I know Lisa and Danny and I have told them about this place. I used to be in Islands Brygge a lot. I was a daily customer.

Neroport has got to be my favorite current structure. So pure, clean and simple.

Great update, Lars!! :D

Sadly i could not participate in yesterdays photo-tour, but on my way to re-supply in Bilka today i brought my camera. :)

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2024%2006%2009/DSC03817.jpg

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2024%2006%2009/DSC03822.jpg
^^Though hard to see, the third colour of the hotel is silver. (look for it above the blue area)

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2024%2006%2009/DSC03824.jpg
^^Sidewalk already done. With the little amount of progress thats been on CabInn during the last month i would guess on a construction period of about 6 months more from now on.

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2024%2006%2009/DSC03827.jpg

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2024%2006%2009/DSC03829.jpg
^^Waiting for the black panels to put up, where all the aluminum is now....

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2024%2006%2009/DSC03826.jpg

^^ Thanks for those photos aswell!
I hope they will make use of all that space behind the Cab Inn, cafés or something. That's really a part of the project I've been a bit worried about. But I hope Liebskinds has some great idea with it...

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2024%2006%2009/DSC03827.jpg

Wulf & Konstali:

http://www.byoghavn.dk/areal-presse/aus2-nyheder/aus2-nyhed-visning.htm?newsId=18000

I had privately been hoping for a Lagkagehuset concept out here but this is even better. Opening up in October. Count me in as a daily.

me too!!! I'm trying to supåport VISA sushi and the bagle shop as much as I can.... but this will without doubt be on top of my list. their shop on Bryggen is such a great place!

More news about the new arena. Sounds like a long shot given he hasn't even spoken with his own investors, but whatever it takes to get the project U/C I just hope they make it!

http://www.berlingske.dk/article/20090626/koebenhavn/706260072/

Skyerne over den københavnske multiarena er måske ikke så mørke, som det ser ud til.

Tidligere på ugen var Københavns Kommune nødt til at forlænge fristen for, hvornår en finansieringsmodel skal være parat fra udbudsvinderen, eventvirksomheden AEG. Men nu lysner det måske med hjælp fra en uventet kant: Brian Mollerup, direktør i det »tabende« konsortium, Copenhagen Multiarena, er parat til at diskutere muligheden for et samarbejde mellem de to tidligere konkurrenter.

»Jeg er meget åben for en dialog med AEG om, hvordan vi i fællesskab kan få skabt en finansieringsmodel, der kan realisere projektet,« siger Brian Mollerup.

Han understreger, at han endnu ikke har talt med investorerne bag Copenhagen Multiarena om et samarbejde med AEG, men han regner med at tage kontakt til Brian Kabatznick, vice president i AEG Facilities, for at sondere terrænet for et samarbejde.

Finansieringsplanen fra AEG skulle være fremlagt for Københavns Kommune senest i mandags, men nu har virksomheden fået udsættelse til 1. oktober.

Finanskrise får skylden

Ifølge Københavns Kommune er det angiveligt finanskrisen, der er årsagen til, at AEG ikke har kunnet få finansieringen på plads i denne omgang. Den udlægning er Brian Mollerup enig i.

»Det er et meget svært marked lige nu. Jeg tror selvfølgelig på, at vi kunne have løftet opgaven, men nu fik vi ikke mulighed for det,« siger han.

Selvom Brian Mollerup naturligvis stadig er skuffet over, at hans firma blev valgt fra, mener han ikke, at nogen kan være tjent med, at projektet måske bliver udskudt eller falder til jorden på grund af manglende finansiering.

»København bør have en multiarena. Alle andre storbyer har en. Derfor tror jeg også, at vi vil kunne finde en model sammen med AEG, hvis de er interesserede,« siger Brian Mollerup.

AEG forventer, at byggeriet af multiarenaen løber op i en milliard kroner. Deraf låner virksomheden 200 millioner kroner af Københavns Kommune. Et lån, som er rente- og afdragsfrit de første 30 år. Men på trods af det kommunale lån har det altså endnu ikke været muligt at få resten af finansieringen på plads.

Den nye multiarena, som efter planen skal stå færdig 1. juli 2013, får plads til 15.000 siddende tilskuere og skal placeres i Ørestaden Syd tæt på storcenteret Field’s og Bella Center. Det har ikke været muligt at træffe Brian Kabatznick for en kommentar.

Great update!
Do you know anything about the new golf course club house? There was once talk about an architectural competition but now they will have to hurry if they are going to be finished in time for the opening of the course.

Well this is the idea but there is a long way to go. Cabinn top right.
http://i40.tinypic.com/1jmglk.jpg

Great update!
Do you know anything about the new golf course club house? There was once talk about an architectural competition but now they will have to hurry if they are going to be finished in time for the opening of the course.

The club House probably won't be done when the course opens next spring (I think it opens May 2010). It has apparently been a long process to get the approval for the club house due to the fact that they build in a natural reserve.

/Nicolaj

Indeed a lot of good news this month regarding Ørestad: Dansk Industri moving to south wing, the new backery in VM-bjerget, a new UC in Ørestad S.



I'm a bit slow here :)
what is the new UC in Ørestad S?

Hi all

Just a small update on the golf course:

Hole #3:
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_RG6vshcE6sY/Skmwor6pCuI/AAAAAAAACuk/Gj0FXM9aJwI/s800/IMG_4023.JPG

Green area at hole #2:
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_RG6vshcE6sY/Skmw5LsOkYI/AAAAAAAACu4/xeE7QAQfSWo/s800/IMG_4029.JPG

Again green area at hole #2:
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_RG6vshcE6sY/Skmw55P4-MI/AAAAAAAACvA/tRHr6Sy5wMM/s800/green2_090627.jpg

Tee at hole#1:
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_RG6vshcE6sY/SkmxAOgJJWI/AAAAAAAACvI/CX_bUc7GEFs/s800/IMG_4039.JPG

It's really amazing how fast the grass grows! Hole 1, 2 and 3 were seeded 3 weeks ago and they are already quite green.
Right now top soil has been placed on hole 9, 10 and 18 (left of the driving range) and seeding looks to be in progress :)

/Nicolaj

I'm a bit slow here :)
what is the new UC in Ørestad S?

Maybe I was to fast, it starts in january 2010 but you can read about it here: http://oravis.dk/index.php/%C3%98restad-syd/2110-110-aeldreboliger-klar-i-2011.html

Not the most exciting project, but I think it's fine to get som diversity regarding the population here in Ørestad.

By the way - very interesting photo update from the golf course.

Maybe I was to fast, it starts in january 2010 but you can read about it here: http://oravis.dk/index.php/%C3%98restad-syd/2110-110-aeldreboliger-klar-i-2011.html



ahhh yeah of course. really great that more is beeing build out there....

http://www.byoghavn.dk/areal-presse/aus2-nyheder/aus2-nyhed-visning.htm?newsId=18064

Allright - I think this is bizarre, but hopefully it's possible to get beers and cigarettes (for my guests offcourse ;-)) from tomorrow.

http://www.byoghavn.dk/areal-presse/aus2-nyheder/aus2-nyhed-visning.htm?newsId=18064

Allright - I think this is bizarre, but hopefully it's possible to get beers and cigarettes (for my guests offcourse ;-)) from tomorrow.

yeah.... I doubt they will get a lot of guests untill the rest of the hotel is done :)

This may be a silly question, but as a Danish expatriate in Paris I like following construction and infrastructure projects in the "old country" - and looking at Oerestaden gives me cause for one satisfaction and one concern.

The satisfaction is, we finally seem to be moving out of the straitjacket that has hamstrung architectual developments in Copenhagen for so long: an excessive neo-classicism. For as long as I can remember all new buildings had to be entirely cubic so as to fit in with the square brick buildings already standing on neighbouring pieces of land. OK, we're still some way from the pyramidic, cylindric, suspended and sail-shaped buildings of Dubai and East Asia, but at least there now is a willingness to experiment with shapes and forms.

My concern derives from my experience with urban renewal in France: the French are normally very good at ensuring that the public space will be used and populated around the clock even when they build new neighbourhoods. (The sad exception is La Defense.) If they move offices and housing blocks into an area then they also move a number of cafes, restaurants, food shops and convenience stores in with them. I see that missing in Oerestaden. From what I can see on the photos it looks like the whole area is a designated "sleeper city" - though I hope I'm wrong. Would anybody care to illuminate me?

Cabinn Metro will open tomorrow 1st of July (http://www.byoghavn.dk/areal-presse/aus2-nyheder/aus2-nyhed-visning.htm?newsId=18064) - the largest hotel in Denmark, however that's a temporary title - both Bella Hotel (7-800 rooms) and the new Radisson Blu Scandinavia (1050 rooms) will be larger and the largest in Scandinavia.

^^
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=39019246&postcount=2779

;)

As it looks now it doens't look like a hotel where I would pay for a room.

Yea, with special rates if you take your tool box with you and help to finish it off!

^^
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=39019246&postcount=2779

;)

As it looks now it doens't look like a hotel where I would pay for a room.
:D Sorry :lol:

Cabinn Metro will open tomorrow 1st of July (http://www.byoghavn.dk/areal-presse/aus2-nyheder/aus2-nyhed-visning.htm?newsId=18064) - the largest hotel in Denmark, however that's a temporary title - both Bella Hotel (7-800 rooms) and the new Radisson Blu Scandinavia (1050 rooms) will be larger and the largest in Scandinavia.

http://www.radissonblu.com/scandinaviahotel-duesseldorf

:nuts:

http://www.radissonblu.dk/scandinaviahotel-koebenhavn

:nuts:

The mayor-to-be takes a spin round Ørestad

http://oravis.dk/index.php/alle-bydele/2112-pa-cykel-med-frank.html

Kommunen har ikke holdt tempo med Ørestads udvikling. Der mangler nogle af de basale faciliteter. Hvis Ørestadbeboerne er skuffede, er det forståeligt. Sådan siger Frank Jensen, som skal vinde kommunalvalget for Socialdemokraterne

“Prøv at hør. Lige derinde. Det er en af dem”.
Han peger lige ind i et budskads ved anden rundkørsel på Ørestads Boulevard. Så tæt på byen og trafikken sidder en nattergal og synger midt på dagen.
Frank Jensen er på cykeltur med Ørestad Avis, fra Islands Brygge metrostation til Naturcenter Vestamager. Han har boet på Islands Brygge i femten år. På sine løbeture på fælleden har han fundet fire steder, hvor der næsten altid er nattergalesang.
Nogle gange løber eller cykler han længere sydpå, og ser på byggerierne i Ørestad. En bydel, der blev født, imens Frank Jensen var yngste medlem af SR-regeringen. Han husker udmærket diskussionerne, da lovgivningen om metroen, Øresundsbroen og Ørestad blev vedtaget i begyndelsen af 90’erne.
“Vi arvede jo projektet fra Schlüter-regeringen, men var meget begejstrede over, at der nu endelig var en chance for at vi kunne planlægge den private og kollektive trafik ordentligt, i stedet for at lave lappeløsninger. Vi var også enige om det langsigtede mål: At vi skulle skabe grundlaget for en Øresundsregion”.

Tilflytteren
Frank Jensen kan godt sætte sig ind i, hvordan det er at bo i en nybygget by. Han boede i 10 år i en lille lejlighed i Gunløgssgade på Bryggen og pendlede til familien i Ålborg. Da børnene blev voksne flyttede hans kone til København, og de købte en lejlighed i Havnestaden, i en gade med det for en socialdemokrat meget passende navn J.O. Kraghs Gade.
“Vi er galde for at bo der, på grund af lyset og nærheden til havnen og fælleden. Men jeg har også oplevet bygge-sjusk, og jeg er også klar over, at der mangler liv i en ny bydel”.
“Når man skal planlægge en helt ny by, har man mulighed for at tænke natur, trafik, boliger og erhverv sammen. Man kan for eksempel blande flere boligformer, så folk uden så mange penge bor i samme by som de ressorcestærke. Og det er jo netop tanken i Ørestad. Og derfor frygter jeg heller ikke en ghettoudvikling herude.Men ting tager tid”, siger Frank Jensen.
“Hvad skal der egentlig ske her?” siger han og kigger lidt forundret ud over Rigs-arkivgrunden, som er ved at udvikle sig til en helt særegen biotop med efterladte betonringe, grusbunker, vandhuller og vilde planter. Frank Jensen virker beroliget af informationen om, at der for nylig er lagt planer om at indrette et ‘midlertidigt offentligt byrum’ på grunden.
“Men hvor er det bare godt, at vi fik DR Byen til København. Tænk på alle de kreative kræfter, som bliver boende i byen, fordi DR trækker dem til. Det kan godt være at det var en byggeskandale, men nu er den her”, siger han.

Satser på hverdagen
Men nu har hovedstaden fået store kulturinstitutioner nok til de næste mange år, mener Frank Jensen.
“ Vi har haft en kulturel guld-alder i København, og fået DR Byen, Operaen, Skuespilhuset og Det Kongelige Bibliotek. Nu tror jeg, at vi skal til at tænke lidt mere på københavnernes hverdag. På deres job, deres bolig og deres fritidsliv.
Han vil gå til valg på de tre B’er: Beskæftigelse, Boliger og Bander. Især ungdomsledigheden kan komme til at skyde i vejret efter sommer, når de nyuddannede søger ud på arbejdsmarkedet. Samtidig er det vigtigt at holde på de unge, så de har råd og lyst til at blive boende i København.
Bekæmpelsen af bandekriminalitet er et spørgsmål om at genskabe en tryg by.
“Det er københavnernes hverdag, som afgør, om de kan li´at bo her, og om de bliver boende”, siger han.

Forstår frustrationen
Derfor nikker Frank Jensen også til den beslutning, som et flertal i Borgerrepræsentationen for nylig vedtog, selv om den blev taget uden om Socialdemokraterne: Der skal ikke planlægges byudvikling af nye store områder i hovedstaden. De eksisterende byudviklingsområder, herunder Ørestad, skal til gengæld færdigudvikles og have de nødvendige faciliteter og institutioner.
”Byudvikling er en dynamisk proces. Vi skal ikke afskære os fra mulighederne, hvis der pludselig kommer gang i Nordhavn for eksempel. Men det er da helt uholdbart, hvis man som indflytteri Ørestad ikke kan få sine børn passet, eller mangler idrætsfaciliteter”.

Sagen om en aftenpedel
Frank Jensen vil gerne ind på gymnasiet, hvor han aldrig har været. Han er imponeret over den lange trappe. På vejen lytter han til historien om, at gymnasiet har søgt kommunen om en aftenpedel, så huset kan fungere som kultur- og forsamlingshus for Ørestad. Kommunen sagde nej.
“Det lyder utroligt. Hvis det handler om en aftenpedel, for at kulturlivet kan komme igang herude, så skal I da helt klart have den støtte fra kommunen”.
“Ørestad skal op på samme serviceniveau som resten af byen. Kommunen har ikke haft nok tempo på. Det skyldes sikkert mange ting Uklar økonomi i Børn- og Ungeforvaltningen, og at planen om tre skoler blev ændret til to skoler. Jeg kan godt forstå at folk i Ørestad reagerer. Der er nogle svigtede forventninger. Men samtidig er der også så mange gode historier om Ørestad. Folk kommer jo rejsende hertil for at opleve byen og dens bygninger” siger Frank Jensen.

Bliver aldrig en ghetto
Ørestad har fået graffitti, cyklerne flyder og ukrudtet breder sig. Et ufærdigt udseende som øger risikoen for ghettoudvikling. Mener nogle.
“De der ‘tags’ på husmurene er jo skrækkelige. Men Øre-stad vokser stille og roligt sammen med resten af byen, og så følger der nogle ting med på godt og ondt”.
Men hvad så med idrætsfaciliteterne, som er stort set fraværende?
“Det gælder i hele København, at der er færre idrætsfaciliteter pr. borger end på landsplan. Og dem vi har, er ved at forfalde. Jeg besøgte Valby Stadion i går. Det ser ikke godt ud med vedligeholdelsen. Det er urimeligt, vi bør have højere ambitioner. Vi skal være med fremme, når det gælder idrætsliv”.

En vigtig by
På vejen ud til Vestamager Station spørger han nysgerrigt til byggegrunde i Ørestad Syd. “Hvad skal der bygges der?” “Hvem har bygget det hus?”.
Vi når til terrassen foran Traktørstedet, hvor Frank Jensen skuer ud over savannen og den anden vej, ind mod Stævnen og Big House. Hvad ER Ørestad egentlig, Frank Jensen?
“Ørestad spiller en meget vigtig rolle for Københavns fremtid. Med Ørestad har vi åbnet en ny flanke i byen, som peger mod Øresunds-regionen og Malmø. En af grundene til at København har klaret sig så godt i de sidste 10 år, er helt klart at vi kan udveksle boliger og arbejdskraft med Sverige. København og Malmø smelter sammen til ét byområde en dag”.



Although I whole-hearted agree with him that the city should prioritise completing existing projects over newer ones, I cannot say I like the idea of yet another social democrat career politicians in office. Ritt has more than proven that concept wrong! But what are the alternatives? SF :ohno:

http://www.radissonblu.no/scandinaviahotell-oslo

:nuts:

Oh shut up! It will eventually be renamed after the facelift.. :nuts:

If they move offices and housing blocks into an area then they also move a number of cafes, restaurants, food shops and convenience stores in with them. I see that missing in Oerestaden. From what I can see on the photos it looks like the whole area is a designated "sleeper city" - though I hope I'm wrong. Would anybody care to illuminate me?

At this point of time i think that its a bit hard to answer. Some people argue that its a sleeper city. I myself dont consider it to be a sleeper city.

What cant be seen on the pictures is the slowly forming roots for creating the base of citylife in Ørestad City.

Currently we have:
- Døgnnetto (convenice store) in Parkhusene
- Visa Sushi (restaurant) in Porthuset
- Bagels and Ice (fast food) in Porthuset
- The City park
- The high school
- UnderVand (a venue) near Ørestad St.

Upcoming near future:
- A bakery+café in VM-Bjerget
- CabInn hotel (incl. café + restaurant)
- Possibly stores/service facilities in Neroport

Further plans:
- An elementary school and public library (done in a couple of years)
- More restaurants, cafés and other stores are planned on empty lots.
- A big cultural building is contained in the masterplan of the Ørestad Downtown project.

I think that Ørestad City need more time to settle in, develop and progres further. Several lots in Ørestad City are still empty and its hard to judge an unfinished city. The current (unhappy) residents must be patient or move to another place. I am sure that things will get - even ;) - better in the future.

Im surely a happy resident in a nice neighburhood called Ørestad City. :D

^^
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=39019246&postcount=2779

;)

As it looks now it doens't look like a hotel where I would pay for a room.

I went by CabInn this evening to check out the site. I ran into an employee of the hotel who said that the hotel wont open till a week from now. All the rooms (350) in the lower part of the hotel are done.

The hotel WILL have the special aluminum profiles put on the facade. It should be completely done at late september.

The place for dining in the hotel is located below ground level.

The place for dining in the hotel is located below ground level.

how strange is that???? they should have placed the dining with a view of Ørestad or the golf course in my oppinion

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/Blandet023.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/Blandet024.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/Blandet027.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/Blandet026.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/Blandet028.jpg

^^ I'm actually starting to like this building, I think it looks pretty cool and I like the colors and the different shapes - what we need in Ørestad.

^^ I'm actually starting to like this building, I think it looks pretty cool and I like the colors and the different shapes - what we need in Ørestad.

Me too.... I feared the worst but i think it is growing on me :)
I just hope that the decoration will make it even better

Btw. I met one of the guys from Golf & Anlæg yesterday. He said that the entire area at hole 9, 10 and 18 is now fully seeded and they now work on hole 4, 5 and 13 - they take 3 holes at a time.

He also said that they probably won't start building the clubhouse untill late this year :ohno:

From politiken.dk this morning

Ingen tør sætte penge i Københavns nye bydele.

Det offentligt ejede selskab By & Havn har på to år tabt knap en milliard kroner, og pengene vil fortsætte med at vælte ud af selskabet de kommende år. Det erkender selskabet selv i et notat, Politiken er i besiddelse af.

By & Havn står for salg af grunde i Københavns nye bydele såsom Ørestad og Sluseholmen, og det taber i øjeblikket penge med ekspresfart. Situationen er gravalvorlig, vurderer Jens Kristian Elkjær-Larsen, statsautoriseret revisor og forskningsleder ved CBS.

»Uanset hvad kommer selskabet på et tidspunkt i en situation, hvor det ikke kan betale sine renteudgifter, og derfor undrer det, at der ingen steder står noget om, hvorvidt man må have en lånegaranti eller en indeståelse fra staten. Det er svært at se, hvordan selskabet ellers skal overleve«, siger han.

Skatteborgere må punge ud
By & Havn er ejet i fællesskab af staten og Københavns Kommune, og hvis selskabet ikke kan betale sine regninger, kommer skatteborgerne til at punge ud, vurderer Jens Kristian Elkjær-Larsen.

»Nogen skal jo betale, og staten og kommunen har ikke andre finansieringskilder end borgernes skattepenge«.

By & Havn erkender problemet
By & Havn erkender selv, at det ser sort ud. Selskabet må ud at låne de mange millioner, som det taber i de kommende år, fortæller bestyrelsens formand, tidligere skatteminister Carsten Koch.

»Konjunkturerne har vist sig ikke at være med os. Det har ramt os hårdt, at alle de byggegrunde er faldet voldsomt i værdi på meget kort tid, samtidig med at der er kommet moms på byggegrunde. Oveni har finanskrisen ramt os hårdt, fordi vi har måttet låne penge til meget høje renter«, siger Carsten Koch. Han sætter dog sin lid til, at boligmarkedet vender, så By & Havn begynder at tjene penge fra 2012.

»Men det er bestemt ikke letbenet det her«, siger formanden.

SF vil have ministeren på banen
SF’s trafikordfører, Pia Olsen Dyhr, kalder selskabets økonomi »uforsvarlig«.

»Vi har hele tiden ment, at økonomien ikke ville holde. Man kan ikke udelukke, at vi nu får en ekstraregning, og transportminister Lars Barfoed (K) må nu indkalde til et møde, så vi kan se på, om vi bliver nødt til at gribe ind«, siger Pia Olsen Dyhr.

Hverken transportminister Lars Barfoed eller overborgmesterkontoret på Københavns Rådhus har ønsket at kommentere sagen.

I suppose that Ørestad Nord belongs under this thread, though most of the attention is on Ørestad City and Syd.
It appears that these awful buildings of KUA are finally going to be dramatically rebuilt, in spite of, the crisis, and a new campus created on the wasteland shown in the first photo. The campus will, according to the overall plan, be connected by a park belt to Amager Fælled.
The architects are Architema, whose Copenhagen offices soon move into the new Mikado House under construction 100m south along the canal beside the IT college.

http://i39.tinypic.com/fk4row.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/16ifbyq.jpg

This is indeed a project we can look forward to instead of the existing (originally temporary) buildings, there are today.

what kind of time frame are we looking at here? looks like a big project

Time frame appears to be 2012 for what they call stage 2 and the stage 3 is planned finished in 2014. At the moment they are working om new temporary entrances and moving facilities around in preparation for a build start in the autumn 2009.
The clip below is from KUA´s own web site and the link is below that again


Humaniora, Teologi, Datalogi og Jura samles i Ørestaden på Amager som
Københavns Universitets Søndre Campus.
Kernen i projektet er en total ombygning af det gamle KUA i stil med nye KUA.
Etape 2, der kommer til at samle alle de humanistiske fag, er færdig i 2012, mens
Jura og Teologi flytter til nye faciliteter på Amager i 2014.

http://soendrecampus.ku.dk/

Might as well ask, do you know anything about North Tower (Copenhagen Towers) UC timeframe? :)

The makeover of KUA looks really good. As it is now it's def. one of the worst buildings in all of Copenhagen.

The makeover of KUA looks really good. As it is now it's def. one of the worst buildings in all of Copenhagen.

About time IMO! Such an old nasty building like that really doesnt fit in at all in a modern area like Ørestad north.

I studied at KUA in 1989. It was a horrendous place.

^^
Is that you in you profile picture? :tongue3:

^^
Is that you in you profile picture? :tongue3:

Yes it is. Funniest person of all time. I am known for such quotes as "I never forget a face - but in your case I'll make an exception", and "Please accept my resignation. I do not wish to be a member of an organization that will accept me as a member".

Yes it is. Funniest person of all time. I am known for such quotes as "I never forget a face - but in your case I'll make an exception", and "Please accept my resignation. I do not wish to be a member of an organization that will accept me as a member".

Greatest and most misquoted quote in the world...

The man was underrated for sure....

Very good news in terms of Ørestaden!

http://www.berlingske.dk/article/20090703/koebenhavn/110311182/

1,9 milliarder kroner skal investeres i det københavnske kultur- og fritidsliv frem mod 2020.

Af Casper Dall
Sidst opdateret Fredag den 3. juli 2009, 22:27

En saltvandsindsprøjtning af de helt store kan være på vej til det københavnske kultur- og fritidsliv. I hvert fald hvis man skal tro et enigt Kultur- og Fritidsudvalg, der netop har godkendt et høringssvar til Kommuneplan 2009.

I høringssvaret lægger udvalget op til, at der skal bruges op mod 1,9 milliarder kroner frem til 2020 på nye, moderne kultur- og idrætstilbud.

Den store investering skal ses i lyset af, at der i samme periode kommer 50.000 flere københavnere. Derudover er der gennem de sidste ti år allerede kommet 27.000 flere københavnere, uden at udbuddet af kultur- og fritidstilbud ifølge forvaltningen er fulgt med.

»Vi er nødt til at investere så mange penge, hvis vi vil op i kulturens superliga, og det synes jeg, København fortjener at være,« siger kultur- og fritidsborgmester Pia Allerslev (V).

Inden københavnerne kan begynde at glæde sig til at boltre sig i de mange nye faciliteter, skal pengene først bevilges af Økonomiudvalget.

»Det er en realistisk plan, så jeg kan ikke se, hvorfor de andre partier ikke skulle kunne bakke op. Vi er nødt til at gå i gang nu, og finansieringen spredes over ti år. Nu må de andre partier vågne op,« mener Pia Allerslev.

Det er særligt de nye byområder i Nordhavn og Ørestad, der tilgodeses i investeringsplanen, fordi de i øjeblikket ikke kan tilbyde indbyggerne tidssvarende kulturfaciliteter.

»Vi skal honorere de bydele, hvor befolkningstallet eksploderer. Ellers bliver det hurtigt mindre attraktivt at bo i disse bydele, og så stopper Københavns udvikling. Med et varieret udbud af kultur- og fritidsmuligheder stiger københavnernes tilfredshed med byen,« siger Pia Allerslev.

Ifølge kultur- og fritidsborgmesteren er det Socialdemokraternes skyld, at det er nødvendigt med en investeringsplan, der løber op i næsten to milliarder kroner.

»I alt for mange år er der slet ikke blevet gjort nok for kultur- og fritidsområdet. Det er en fadæse af Socialdemokraterne, som jeg håber, vi nu kan få rettet op på,« siger Pia Allerslev.

Borgerrepræsentationen har tidligere vedtaget en genopretningsplan, der skal sikre, at de københavnske idrætsfaciliteter kommer på niveau med de danske byer, hovedstaden sammenligner sig med. Den plan skal naturligvis fortsætte, mener Pia Allerslev.

Fælles ansvar

Også Socialdemokraternes medlem af Kultur- og Fritidsudvalget, Simon Strange, er tilfreds med, at der nu er sat tal på behovet for investeringer på kultur- og fritidsområdet.

»Det viser, at kulturen bliver prioriteret på lige fod med andre områder i kommunen. Hvordan vi så får finansieret investeringsplanen, må vi kigge på,« siger Simon Strange.

Han mener dog, at Pia Allerslev skyder forbi med kritikken af Socialdemokraterne.

»Det er et fælles ansvar, at vi har ordentlige faciliteter i København. Venstre har haft borgmesterposten på dette område i mange år, men det kræver jo, at man er villig til at kæmpe for sine områder og forslag, hvis man vil have dem gennemført. Det har Venstre åbenbart ikke været,« siger Simon Strange.

Its my understnding, that we still dont have a small "multi/all porpuse arena in Christianshavn.... Maybe something to fix while we are at it...

Its my understnding, that we still dont have a small "multi/all porpuse arena in Christianshavn.... Maybe something to fix while we are at it...

That might be the case but I honestly think that Ørestaden (City or South) must be first in line for just about anything new in terms of culture/sport, given the complete lack of such facilities in these parts of the city.

....oh, and btw I live in Ørestad City :)

That might be the case but I honestly think that Ørestaden (City or South) must be first in line for just about anything new in terms of culture/sport, given the complete lack of such facilities in these parts of the city.

....oh, and btw I live in Ørestad City :)

Why do you think that, if christianshavn have never had it...?

Why do you think that, if christianshavn have never had it...?

Because Christianshavn is a much older borough located close to the city center. Please don't tell me that you honestly believe that Ørestad City is as lively or well developed as Christianshavn - cultural institutions or not.

Dunno if this has been posted before but the glass box is gone from the City Park. Looks much better now. Oh, and BTW, I went by Wulf & Konstali in Islands Brygge yesterday. The shop looked closed up. If they haven't just closed up for the summer maybe they will open up out here even sooner than October.

Passed by Cab-In yesterday evening and talk to the man in the lobby. They will first open in the end of next week because the copenhagen fire department hasn't approved the building yet. The bar in the lobby will be open 24 - 7 alle week long, their will be beers, sommersby, chocolate, cola etc. in the bar all night. But the hotel is 100% smoke free and their will be no cigarette sales. And the brunch buffet will be open for everyone.

An update on the Bella Centre Hotel. You can now really notice the sloping sides.

http://i26.tinypic.com/2zob2qe.jpg

http://i30.tinypic.com/2w6ujb9.jpg

I think the "Arnoldi like" colours of the Cabbinn Hotel stand out really well against the mainly sand colour of the rest of Ørestad. You must be able to see the sign from the trains.

http://i25.tinypic.com/27zvmub.jpg

and her there is something superliner about the sharp corner (bow)

http://i30.tinypic.com/20t3wco.jpg

You're absolutely right Cab-In is extremely refreshing.^^ The interior also looks fine based on my observations last evening.

Grass is beginning to appear on the plot behind BC where the dirt piles used to be. It's going to be lovely to look at...

Bjerget wins another prize:
http://www.byoghavn.dk/areal-presse/aus2-nyheder/aus2-nyhed-visning.htm?newsId=18133

I was a bit curious about the fate of Libeskind's deconstructive facade pattern on CABINN – was it discarded or still a part of the project?... To clear things up, I wrote an email to the guys from CABINN. Here's their reply:

Facaden bliver lavet som planlagt med Liebeskinds oprindelige facade design. Stregerne som bliver lavet i rustfrit stål, er en elektronisk symfoni som Libeskind har lavet.

I was a bit curious about the fate of Libeskind's deconstructive facade pattern on CABINN – was it discarded or still a part of the project?... To clear things up, I wrote an email to the guys from CABINN. Here's their reply:
And that's great news, thank you :) I don't know about now, but last time I was in Ørestad, I wasn't impressed by the exterior - that hopefully changes.

Also I can't wait too see how the solar cell / glass facade on Crown Plaza will turn out.

It seems like the CabInn Hotel has opened now. I passed it last night at around 9 pm and there were people sitting in the bar/lobby.

The lower bridge between the two towers at Bella Hotel is under construction and most of the steel work has been done by now.

Two new companies have moved into Porthuset; a lifestyle magasine for women called C'est and a small it company called scubed.

^^
Great news!

Great news all around. Things certainly feel a whole lot livelier now than at this time last year. It just gets better and better.

BTW, By & Havn had an article about the virtually non-existing crime rate in Ørestad

http://www.byoghavn.dk/areal-presse/aus2-nyheder/aus2-nyhed-visning.htm?newsId=18164

Yesterday night showed a beautiful sight from Ørestad City:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3457/3722746255_a0acf435a8_b.jpg

The sun was lighting the clouds high in the sky. Seen from the 10th floor of Sejlhuset.

See the image in full size here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/benjamin-asmussen/3722746255/).

Great picture - thanks:-)

The no crime story has found its way onto the pages of Berlingske.

http://www.berlingske.dk/article/20090716/koebenhavn/90716050/

wouldnt there actually have to be life in a city/town in order for it to have a crime rate?

As much as i want more cafes/bars/outdoor stores/restaurants/general life etc in Ørestad, i know as soon as we get it, we'll get the young punks aswell... it's unfortunately gonna come one day... but yeah, i guess we can enjoy the clean/safe city as it's there (and is clean/safe) :)

wouldnt there actually have to be life in a city/town in order for it to have a crime rate?

I see people all the time around here. They all seem to be alive :D

Thanks for the amazing pic. Asmus

http://www.trafikstyrelsen.dk/DA/Baneprojekter/Koebenhavn-Ringsted/Hoeringsproces/Miljoeredegoerelser/Miljoeredegoerelse%201/~/media/Trafikstyrelsen/Jernbane/KH-RG%20hringsperiode/VVM%201/Fagnotater/Fjerntog_Kbh_H.ashx

From page 27 to 42 about a possible bigger Ørestad Station.

Thanks for the amazing pic. Asmus

http://www.trafikstyrelsen.dk/DA/Baneprojekter/Koebenhavn-Ringsted/Hoeringsproces/Miljoeredegoerelser/Miljoeredegoerelse%201/~/media/Trafikstyrelsen/Jernbane/KH-RG%20hringsperiode/VVM%201/Fagnotater/Fjerntog_Kbh_H.ashx

From page 27 to 42 about a possible bigger Ørestad Station.

Great! I really hope they opt for the most expansive solution in Ørestad. Do you know anything about the specific time frame i.e. when the final decision is taken?

Sakset fra Børsen:



Arena-forhandlinger på vej

Finansmanden Brian Mollerup mødes efter sommerferien med eventgiganten AEG, der stadig mangler finansiering til Københavns nye multiarena
AF ULLA DUBGAARD

AF ULLA DUBGAARD

Der er nyt håb for Københavns finanskriseramte arenaprojekt i Ørestaden.

Eventgiganten AEG, der i februar vandt udbudsrunden om at opføre og drive en ny arena i Ørestaden, har haft svært ved at finde investorer, og Københavns Kommune har derfor udskudt deadline for en finansieringsplan til oktober. Men nu har udbudsrundens taber, konsortiet Copenhagen Multiarena, været i kontakt med AEG, og det har tilsyneladende givet pote.

»Jeg har haft løbende dialog med AEG og også ønsket dem tillykke med udbuddet. De har ikke kunnet rejse pengene, derfor er det kun naturligt, at vi sætter os sammen om bordet efter sommerferien og kigger på det,« siger direktør Brian Mollerup.

Han vil endnu ikke gå i detaljer med, hvilken rolle Copenhagen Multiarena, der bød på både at opføre og drive arenaen, eventuelt skal spille i projektet.

»Det vigtigste er, at der kommer en multiarena, og her er en mulighed for at løfte det projekt. De folk, der snakker sammen, holder sammen,« siger Brian Mollerup.

AEG’s arena-byggeri i Ørestaden forventes at løbe op i omkring 1 mia. kr. Heraf yder Københavns Kommune 200 mio. kr. i lån uden renter og afdrag de første 30 år. Desuden har organisationen Sportevent Danmark forpligtet sig til at støtte AEG-arenaen med 5 mio. kr. årligt i en 10-årig periode, delvist garanteret af Danmarks Idræts Forbund. Mens turismebranchen og kultur- og sportsliv er lykkelige for udsigten til en længe ventet arena i København, tvivler flere på, at driften kan løbe rundt, særligt efter at Malmøs nye multiarena stod færdig i november sidste år. AEG har siden foråret arbejdet på at få lokale spillere ind i både opførsel og drift, men ifølge Københavns Kommune har finanskrisen spændt ben.

Østergaard vil have møde

I Parken på Østerbro har man været tvunget til at bremse sit arena-projekt, Capinordic Arena, på grund af dyre byggeomkostninger. Nu vil bestyrelsesformand Flemming Østergaard indkalde Københavns Kommune til møde for at få en forklaring på, hvorfor man vælger at yde 200 mio. kr. i lån til en udenlandsk spiller.

»Vi vil fortælle dem, at vi vil behandles på lige fod,« siger Flemming Østergaard.

Det vil sige, at målet er at få støtte til jeres arena?

»Ja, vi vil behandles på lige fod.«

Parken står til at miste både sponsormillioner fra Capinordic og byggetilladelse fra Københavns Kommune, med mindre byggeriet snart kommer i gang. Flemming Østergaard satser stadig på, at Capinordic arenaen står færdig ultimo 2010, men hvornår byggeriet går i gang, vil han ikke svare på.

Det har ikke være muligt at få en kommentar fra AEG, men vice president i AEG Facilities Brian Kabatznick har tidligere udtalt, at det ikke bliver et problem at få investorer, fordi de ikke skal lægge pengene før 2011, men blot forpligte sig til at deltage.

Den nye arena i Ørestaden med plads til 15.000 tilskuere skal efter planen stå færdig 1. juli 2013.

ulla.dubgaard@borsen.dk

Great! I really hope they opt for the most expansive solution in Ørestad. Do you know anything about the specific time frame i.e. when the final decision is taken?

If they expand the station I really hope they go for the solution without the "klargøringscenter" which would take some of the golf course :ohno:

that would be SO stupid in my oppinion.

Hi

Unfortunately the quality of the pics this month are not the best, due to the fact that I had forgotten to use the autofocus button on my camera this time. :bash:

Here we go:

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^^ All pics of the new plug'n'play in Ørestad S.

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Neroport is awesome. By far my favorite structure in Ø.

Despite the little autofocus incident, it's (once again) a great photo update! Thanks for sharing, Lars ;-)

GREAT update! So many interesting projects right now. I'm looking forward to see the cladding on Crown Plaza and Rambøll.
I also love winghouse, the golf course, Big House and of course Bella Hotel which is growing rapidly now :-)

Anyone knows about the parking next to Rambøll? I'm prerry sure it's giong to be chaotic if they don't get more parking outthere..... or maybe they can use the parking at Copenhagen Towers.... how many cars can park there?

/Nicolaj

GREAT update! So many interesting projects right now. I'm looking forward to see the cladding on Crown Plaza and Rambøll.
I also love winghouse, the golf course, Big House and of course Bella Hotel which is growing rapidly now :-)

Anyone knows about the parking next to Rambøll? I'm prerry sure it's giong to be chaotic if they don't get more parking outthere..... or maybe they can use the parking at Copenhagen Towers.... how many cars can park there?

/Nicolaj


Hi Nicolaj

Lars (Kipple) and I were discussing the same thing on our trip. The parking house opposite Rambøll and next to the Telia building is not being built right now. But the CPH Towers parking lot is gigantic, so it would be obvious that Rambøll use it.(though Lars Kipple had his doubts that they would lend it to competitors)

Note that the south wing still misses 4 floors, so it will be pretty tall - though I don’t like the design. But I think that the corner between CPH towers and Rambøll feels reel dense – Manhattan like. It gives you a good idea of Ørestad in 10-15 years.

Best Regards

Lars

Maybe they will just park in Fields then :-)

And I agree with you on South Wing - pretty boring design and with it's height I think it covers too much of Crown Plaza.

Winghouse brochure: http://www.datea.dk/Admin/Public/DWSDownload.aspx?File=%2FFiles%2FFiler%2FDownloads%2Fwinghouse_brochure.pdf

8-tallet (The Artist Formerly Known as Bighouse): http://www.8-tallet.dk/ Note new renderings

dont like the little so-called highrise .. ugly as hell.. but the 8 building itself is pretty neat... i wonder if tourists are alloud to go ontop of the building aswell (where the grass etc will be placed) or if its all privately owned by those who live there...

and oh good update BTW! :cheers2:

Great update indeed! Ørestaden is looking nice as allways! Bella Hotel looks somewhat massive imo i.e. something very good.. :cheers:

Winghouse brochure: http://www.datea.dk/Admin/Public/DWSDownload.aspx?File=%2FFiles%2FFiler%2FDownloads%2Fwinghouse_brochure.pdf

8-tallet (The Artist Formerly Known as Bighouse): http://www.8-tallet.dk/ Note new renderings

Thank you, Lars. It'll be quite interesting to see how the integration with the Kay Fisker parking facility will come out. Actually, just today as I was on the treadmill at fitness.dk overlooking the plot where KLP3 is going to go up, I was cringing at the ugly Kay Fisker parking facility. It really is sub standard compared to everything else out here.

I guess some of the pages in the brochure were drawn up ages ago. Page 11 shows an office environment packed with white iMacs. Those haven't been around for a couple of years now.

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A bit sadened by the look of the entrance....^^

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Opening in august ^^

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Awesome...Looks much taller than it really is...

Great work Kippleand all others providing fresh pics!

It's appreciated! :happy:

a little info about the Parkour Park: http://teamjiyo.com/?s=news_full&content=45f1ba47a683ed86881934d84cae40aa

/Nicolaj

^^Why would you make a "parkour park"? I thought the point was the city is their "stage"...

guess the reasons are the same for making a skateboard park with "street skating" elements.

this way you get all elements concentrated at one place.

a little info about the Parkour Park: http://teamjiyo.com/?s=news_full&content=45f1ba47a683ed86881934d84cae40aa

/Nicolaj

:rofl:

Am I the only one who is getting very apprehensive about the Police's lack of capability of controlling the "activists" during COP15? The rhetoric from the commissioner sounds very, very relaxed - to the point of denial and delusion - seen in the light of recent events. It very much appears that we will be paying for having graffiti removed, broken windows replaced, torched cars and whatever else the activists have planned.

Also, doesn't it seem slightly naive to believe that the Police will actually do something or care if one of us calls them up and tells them that hoodlums are torching cars and breaking windows at our properties, when you think about the response the Police was able to scramble when 200 thugs trashed Hyskenstræde?

It sounds to me like we are going to be the ones having to defend our loved ones, property, and possessions.

Great update Kipple (Lars)
I´m looking forward to seeing the construction of the "centre nodal" that ties the 4 legs of the Big House together.
Is the crooked tower going ahead?

PS. How do you insert the small illustrations under your user name?

Great update Kipple (Lars)
I´m looking forward to seeing the construction of the "centre nodal" that ties the 4 legs of the Big House together.
Is the crooked tower going ahead?

PS. How do you insert the small illustrations under your user name?

Click your name > View public profile > User CP (top left corner) > Edit avatar

And no I can't possibly imagine that LittleTower will go ahead considering the economical hardships of the developer...and that it's all residential (at least I think it is). But too bad it isn't, was a nice addition to the project, hopefully it will come some day.

Am I the only one who is getting very apprehensive about the Police's lack of capability of controlling the "activists" during COP15? The rhetoric from the commissioner sounds very, very relaxed - to the point of denial and delusion - seen in the light of recent events. It very much appears that we will be paying for having graffiti removed, broken windows replaced, torched cars and whatever else the activists have planned.

Also, doesn't it seem slightly naive to believe that the Police will actually do something or care if one of us calls them up and tells them that hoodlums are torching cars and breaking windows at our properties, when you think about the response the Police was able to scramble when 200 thugs trashed Hyskenstræde?

It sounds to me like we are going to be the ones having to defend our loved ones, property, and possessions.

I think they are simply trying to downplay the situation, so as not to agitate the young anit-democratical protestors. Behind the scenes however, I am convinced they are working full spead ahead. This is the biggest security thing ever, with Presidents, heads of states and Royalty coming to Copenhagen, and they are probably recieving a lot of help from their international partners aswell. Despite what we sometimes hear, it isnt very often, that the Danish Police are cought off-guard and unprepaired.

Having said that, the main focus will without a doubt be protection of the vip's. In other words, dont expect anyone to focus on young punks smashing ørestaden or spraypainting the inner city. In fact they most likely will, as we have seen in many other cities, in frustration of not being able to get to the politicians. And because they just want to break stuff. And that is a hell of a lot more accepteble to the police and the politicians, than having the summit desrupted, when the eays of the world are on Copenhagen. Riots - and people braking stuff - everyone expect and it probably wont even reach the tv screens internationally when it happens. Meaning everything looks normal and we will deal with that later, when all the vip's and all the media has left. Then the rightwing can yell and the leftwing defend and throw more money at the young people and everything can start again next time...

Having said that, the main focus will without a doubt be protection of the vip's. In other words, dont expect anyone to focus on young punks smashing ørestaden or spraypainting the inner city. In fact they most likely will, as we have seen in many other cities, in frustration of not being able to get to the politicians. And because they just want to break stuff. And that is a hell of a lot more accepteble to the police and the politicians, than having the summit desrupted, when the eays of the world are on Copenhagen. Riots - and people braking stuff - everyone expect and it probably wont even reach the tv screens internationally when it happens. Meaning everything looks normal and we will deal with that later, when all the vip's and all the media has left. Then the rightwing can yell and the leftwing defend and throw more money at the young people and everything can start again next time...

I think you are right, and I think that implies that each one of us will have to become vigilantes if we refuse to have our windows broken, cars torched, walls spraypainted etc - and then be asked to pay for all of it. I think the comment made by the city official quoted in the article we discussed about a month ago says it all: "We will make a note of the resident's concern about vandalism". Make a note of it. Thanks a lot.

Maybe I can throw this one out to the forum and those who are interested can chime in:

"Would you be a bystander and shrug your shoulders while plundering and vandalism takes place right outside your front door putting your loved ones and yourself in danger?"

Hi all.... once again I went through the golf course area and this time it really looks good!!! almost all holes are covered with top soil now, only some of hole 17 is not done yet.
The "main road" next to the railroad tracks is almost gone now and hole 6 has become 4 meters wider.

Green at hole 7 (still love this place):
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Hole 6 just got a lot wider:
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Irrigation at hole 15 tees beeing tested:
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Traffic jam - they use 5 big trucks to carry top soil for hole 17:
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Hole 17 getting top soil:
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There haven't been any status updates on their website for 10 days or something. I bet they will update the status within a week saying something like "BIG news! all holes are now seeded"

/Nicolaj

Thanks for sharing Nicolaj

http://www.criteriondg.info/wordpress/kim-holtermand/

http://www.behance.net/Gallery/Nightlines/59166

Check this pic of Crowne Plaza, it's from the danish photographer Kim Høltermand - www.holtermand.dk

http://www.byoghavn.dk/da-DK/Presse/Nyheder/2009/nyhed.aspx?newsid={68434B30-B461-4B55-BBCB-B2D29A1FF594}

I'm really looking forward to Plug'nPlay! I haven't been out there for quite some time but if it opens in August it must be almost done by now or?

Btw. under V-Huset I have my own little project U/C. It's "rising" PRETTY slow but some day sooner or later this construction should turn into a climbing wall.

It will be 5x5 meters but with holds up to 3 meters.

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_RG6vshcE6sY/SnLVitBvzxI/AAAAAAAAC18/Yc9J1vgagKU/s800/IMG_4231.JPG

http://www.byoghavn.dk/da-DK/Byliv/Kalender.aspx

Note the guidet tour to otte-tallet the the 2. of september and the guidet tour in Crowne Plaza the 3. of september.

Hvis nogle af jer lokale Ørestad beboere her på forummet skal med, kan vi jo følges :)

Bomb dummy stops trains at Vestamager Station. Imagine my surprise when I read this in Berlingerne. It's one stop down the line and I had no idea this was going on.

http://www.berlingske.dk/article/20090802/koebenhavn/90802004/

http://www.byoghavn.dk/da-DK/Byliv/Kalender.aspx

Note the guidet tour to otte-tallet the the 2. of september and the guidet tour in Crowne Plaza the 3. of september.

Hvis nogle af jer lokale Ørestad beboere her på forummet skal med, kan vi jo følges :)

Weather permitting I'll be there camera in hand...

Bomb dummy stops trains at Vestamager Station. Imagine my surprise when I read this in Berlingerne. It's one stop down the line and I had no idea this was going on.

http://www.berlingske.dk/article/20090802/koebenhavn/90802004/

Well, in your defence, didnt it happen in the middle of the night...?

Well, in your defence, didnt it happen in the middle of the night...?

Yes, I guess Im just a little bit apprehensive about this kind of thing going on in my backyard, although it appears to be a prank by some lowlife knucklehead.

Yes, I guess Im just a little bit apprehensive about this kind of thing going on in my backyard, although it appears to be a prank by some lowlife knucklehead.

God lord man...It seems to me, that this move of yours to Ørestaden, has increased your stresslevel considerably, if you dont mind me saying...

God lord man...It seems to me, that this move of yours to Ørestaden, has increased your stresslevel considerably, if you dont mind me saying...

Things changed after I became a father. I used to be carefree.

Things changed after I became a father. I used to be carefree.

Well, I guess that is pretty natural...:)

Exterior cladding of Rambøll HQ has commenced.

Exterior cladding of Rambøll HQ has commenced.

Cool!! looking forward to the cladding on Crown Plaza now.

Btw. I talked with one of the workers on the golf course. All holes are indeed fully seeded now. At the moment they are working on the soroundings and all the pathways.

/Nicolaj

Now the exterior cladding is going up on Crowne Plaza :okay::
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3464/3791818467_5277f9e7bb_b.jpg
Link to the photo in highres and my flickr profile:colgate: (http://www.flickr.com/photos/danielsorensen/3791818467/)

My first post on skyscrapercity, Wee!

^^ Very nice, will be exiting to see how it turns out. :)

And welcome to ssc :hi:

Welcome!
It´s a great feeling with the first post and especially the first photo.

Det er svært at møde Amager Fælled

Kunstanm: Stævnen. Etagebolig på Robert Jacobsens Vej 101, Ørestad Syd
Bebyggelsen Stævnen kæmper med at nedbryde Ørestads byplan til menneskestørrelse.

Stævnen. Etagebolig på Robert Jacobsens Vej 101, Ørestad Syd. Bygherre: Sjælsø Stævnen. Arkitekt: Vilhelm Lauritzen Arkitekter. Landskab: Schønherr Landskab. Ingeniør: Midtconsult. 165 lejligheder på 75-145 m2. I alt ca. 16.000 m2. Tre stjerner.

Af KARSTEN R. S. IFVERSEN

Det er store dimensioner, der spilles op imod, lige dér, hvor Fælleden møder byen. Det er ellers ikke noget, man tidligere har ladet sig mærke med herude på Amager.

Grønjordskollegiets blokke var vel førhen den eneste bebyggelse, der bed mærke i, at den lå på grænsen af et åbent landskab og ligesom følte, at den burde besvare det ved at rejse sig op i otte etager og give sine beboere et kig ud over den prægtige ' savanne'.

I Ørestad Syd er der i dag betydelig mere stedfornemmelse hos dem, der skaber byen. Oven i købet tegner et bassin grænsen mellem byen og det fredede landskab som var det en sand voldgrav. Den store vandpyt er en god ide, men virker uartikuleret i sin aktuelle udformning, som en løs bue slået rundt om bebyggelsen. Hvad er ideen? Til gengæld er der karakter over de to huse, der er ved at rejse sig i 11 etager.

Det ene med navnet Stævnen står næsten færdigt, og de første beboere er flyttet ind i dets ene fløj, mens dets to sidste får hæftet altaner på og bliver gjort klar.

STÆVNEN ER EN hvidpudset karré og fremstår med fremspring og indhug i facaden og vekslende taghøjde mere myldrende, end man er vant til fra Vilhelm Lauritzen Arkitekters hånd. Tegnestuens boliger er ofte udført i en meget stram funktionalisme, som man f. eks. ser i modsatte ende af Ørestad , hvor Karen Blixen Parken anslår den hårdeste og mindst legende rytme overhovedet. Det er funktionalisme skåret til benet, boliger, der er tænkt indefra og ud. De levner ingen oplevelser til forbipasserende.

Der er tydeligvis noget andet på spil i Stævnen. Navnet har huset fået på grund af sin varierede taghøjde, der markerer det ene hjørne i en 11 etager høj ' stævn'. Spektakulært er det måske ikke ligefrem, men der er gennem variation i altaner og bygningshøjde arbejdet med at skabe identitet omkring de enkelte boliger og bryde husets enorme skala ned. Bevægelserne opdeler huset i mindre, lodrette enheder omkring hver opgang. Det ligner en karré sammenstykket af forskellige huse og giver mange tilfældige hjørner, kroge og overraskende tagterrasser. Der er flere muligheder for beboerne for at komme uden på huset, men i stueplanet lukker det stadig ikke byen ind.

Her er der ejerboliger som i resten. Den anden og sidste fase af bebyggelsen vil lukke karreen og byde på erhverv og lejeboliger. I Stævnen er det, som så mange steder i Ørestad , kun den enkelte boligs mulighed for give sine beboere lys, udsigt og altanliv, der er prioriteret frem for husets mulighed for at deltage i et kommende byliv.

BYPLANEN HER I Ørestad Syd har på nogle punkter de samme svagheder som den øvrige Ørestad . Der synes ikke at være taget højde for stedets særlige vindforhold.

De mange lige gadeforløb, der med deres kanaler bliver ganske brede, skaber vindtunneler mellem de store huse. Det inviterer ikke til liv i gaden.

Stævnens afskærmede gård vil som oftest være rarere at opholde sig i, og den er stor nok til, at solen når herned i sommerhalvåret.

Haveanlægget af Torben Schønherr ser spændende ud på papiret med en række vippede flader af græs, gummi og træ, som blandt andet dækker over en cykelparkering.

Man kan få cyklen hen til huset, men bilen må vente udenfor. Ørestad er jo til en vis grad tænkt som en grøn bydel. Og Stævnen bliver efter al sandsynlighed en udmærket grøn soveby på højkant. Huset står ganske fint og troner for enden af metrolinjen ved siden af Hein Heinsens spiralskulptur, men man kunne godt have ventet sig mere af mødet med det betagende landskab. Hverken stævnemødet mellem land og by eller nedbrydningen af skalaen er forløst, men kommer til at slå knude på huset.

Naboen BIG house lover mere spænding, et endnu ufærdigt hus, der tager fat i den store skala og lader lejlighederne underordne sig den funky formgivning. Om det greb virker eller bliver ren manér, må tiden vise. Men BIG's tidligere huse i Ørestad , VM husene og VM Bjerget, sætter forventningerne højt. Mod det hus bliver Stævnen under alle omstændigheder den stille baggrund.

karsten.ifversen@pol.dk

Sakset fra Politiken d.5. august 2009

Great to see that the cladding at the Crown Plaza is finally getting done. Looking forward to the final result.

Thanks for the pic and welcome to the forum... :cheers:

Thanks for posting the article from pol.dk about Stævnen and 8-tallet.

I think there are several good observations in the article but also a few things that raise an eyebrow. He is talking about Amager Fælled as though it is comprised of lakes à la Lake Lugano, a backdrop of mountains à la Mont Blanc, and rolling hills and rocks like Wales. Amager Fælled is flat scrubland. Sure, it can be quite pretty but it's not like one is looking at a postcard.

The second thing that caught my attention is the comments about wind problems in the long, broad corridors between buildings. The author feels that this will hamper life and activity. But the alternative is short, narrow corridors with turns and corners. I can't imagine that that would inspire more activity.

Oh, and thank you very much SharkeT for the Crowne Plaza shot. Well done!

Now the exterior cladding is going up on Crowne Plaza :okay::

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Great update!! Thx!

btw. nice pictures on your flicker profile too!

Things are really going fast in a finishing spurt out in Ørestad City. I`m afraid it´s going to be rather quiet out there next year, and I´m not refering to the conference in december.

The Nero building helps to round off the square in front of Ferring´s building.
I hope there will be a restaurant or café in the lower part to bring some life there.

http://i29.tinypic.com/cuqz8.jpg

The Crowne Plaza cladding framework is also advancing at a tremendous rate. This may be the last time we see the boring concrete facade which once I was afraid was going to be the final facade. (PS. See you at the open house arrangement on the 3rd sept.)

http://i27.tinypic.com/2cge9hg.jpg

...and finally, YES! the Cabinn hotel is open for business, or at least part of it. Photo taken at about noon, which probably explains the almost deserted lobby.

http://i28.tinypic.com/2pruqu8.jpg

Things are really going fast in a finishing spurt out in Ørestad City. I`m afraid it´s going to be rather quiet out there next year, and I´m not refering to the conference in december.


Thx for the pics. I think you are right about the quietness next year in Ørestad City.... at least when it comes to constructions.
I can only think of the parking house at Golf Parken, The Golf Course Club house and the school.... and of course Bella Hotel.... so maybe not as many constructions as this year but still interesting - espicially Bella Hotel and the school.

When it comes to life in the coty I think we will see a lot more than we do today. The cafe will open in Bjerget which will, at least in that end, give more street life (i hope).

btw. I heard today that the pocket park between V-huset and Porthuset will be the first pocket park which gets an "upgrade". Trees will be planted this year and in the spring we will get a smal football/basketball course.....

Is there anyone out there who works in or has access to the Ferring building?
I came across this photo I took from the top floor, on the occasion of the building`s topping out ceremony and thought it would be interesting, if someone posted a new photo from the same angle, in order to see the progress over the last ?? how many years.

http://i28.tinypic.com/72963k.jpg

Is there anyone out there who works in or has access to the Ferring building?
I came across this photo I took from the top floor, on the occasion of the building`s topping out ceremony and thought it would be interesting, if someone posted a new photo from the same angle, in order to see the progress over the last ?? how many years.



How cool is that!!! do you or anyone else have more pictures dating back that far?
I have checked the ones from By&Havn but there aren't that many....

...in order to see the progress over the last ?? how many years.The photo must be from 2001, since Ferring was completed in 2002. My oldest photos of Ørestad dates back to 2002, unfortunately they're only showing Ferring itself. Here's one of them (May 2002):

http://www.mikaellykmadsen.dk/skyscrapercity/ferring2002.jpg

EDIT: And here one from 2003 at almost the same spot but looking towards the KLP building which is UC:

http://www.mikaellykmadsen.dk/skyscrapercity/orestad2003.jpg

Wauw this is great - keep 'em coming!

yeah!! it is amazing to watch the city grow from the empty ground like that

I would like to ask, how is cladding on Crown Plaza? Glass (and solar cells obviously), like they said? Or a more boring solution?

I would like to ask, how is cladding on Crown Plaza? Glass (and solar cells obviously), like they said? Or a more boring solution?

Pretty sure it is glass/solar cells on the side facing south..... the north side... looking forward to see it - probably glass looking the same as on south.

Pretty sure it is glass/solar cells on the side facing south..... the north side... looking forward to see it - probably glass looking the same as on south.
OK. Thanks. :)

Things are really going fast in a finishing spurt out in Ørestad City. I`m afraid it´s going to be rather quiet out there next year, and I´m not refering to the conference in december.

Yep it's going to be more quiet next year, but we still got the following buildings under construction.

2010
Ørestad Syd.
8 - tallet
The Atrium and South Wing on the Copenhagen Towers ground
Rambøll HQ
Hopefully the Multiarena

Ørestad C.
Public School
Parking house
Bella Hotel
Royal Golf (restaurant and club facilities)

Ørestad N
Mikado House

2011
Ørestad Syd.
Hopefully the Multiarena

Ørestad C.
Public School
Parking house
Bella Hotel
Royal Golf (restaurant and club facilities)

So I'm not afraid about a possible cancellation of our monthly photo tour :)

Good overview - there is also Metropolen in Ørestad Nord and what about KUA? Is'nt also close to a start?

You forgot a few:

2010:
Ørestad Syd:
110 flats for elderly

Ørestad Nord:
Metropolen
Conversion of the old university (KUA)

I stay corrected!

Yep it's going to be more quiet next year, but we still got the following buildings under construction.

2010
Ørestad Syd.
8 - tallet
The Atrium and South Wing on the Copenhagen Towers ground
Rambøll HQ
Hopefully the Multiarena
110 flats for elderly

Ørestad C.
Public School
Parking house
Bella Hotel
Royal Golf (restaurant and club facilities)

Ørestad N
Mikado House
Metropolen
Conversion of the old university (KUA)

2011
Ørestad Syd.
Hopefully the Multiarena
110 flats for elderly

Ørestad C.
Public School
Parking house
Bella Hotel
Royal Golf (restaurant and club facilities)

Ørestad N.
Metropolen
Conversion of the old university (KUA)

So I'm not afraid about a possible cancellation of our monthly photo tour :)

Lars and perhaps phase 2 of Copenhagen Towers - with Foster's office tower :)

I stay corrected!

Yep it's going to be more quiet next year, but we still got the following buildings under construction.

2010
Ørestad Syd.
8 - tallet
The Atrium and South Wing on the Copenhagen Towers ground
Rambøll HQ
Hopefully the Multiarena
110 flats for elderly

Ørestad C.
Public School
Parking house
Bella Hotel
Royal Golf (restaurant and club facilities)
Hopefully the 2. phase of Copenhagen Towers :)

Ørestad N
Mikado House
Metropolen
Conversion of the old university (KUA)

2011
Ørestad Syd.
Hopefully the Multiarena
110 flats for elderly

Ørestad C.
Public School
Parking house
Bella Hotel
Royal Golf (restaurant and club facilities)
Hopefully the 2. phase of Copenhagen Towers :)

Ørestad N.
Metropolen
Conversion of the old university (KUA)

So I'm not afraid about a possible cancellation of our monthly photo tour
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Wow the list is quite long after all.

And still more can be added if we are VERY lucky.... maybe not in 2010 or 2011 though. I hope for more activity in Ørestad Down town, Fields 2 and maybe something on the last spot in Byparken.

Ørestad C.
Public School
Parking house
Bella Hotel
Royal Golf (restaurant and club facilities)

You forgot Kobberhuset in Ørestad C.

In this article you can read about an investment plan for the next 10 years in Copenhagen. The plan is so far only a suggestion but it shows that Ørestad has grown big enough to actually get the intention from the politicians up to the coming elections.

http://www.e-pages.dk/lokalavisenamager/43/9

The investment plan consists of:
Health house in Ørestad: 200 million DKR
sports gym in Ørestad Syd: 46 million DKR
sports gym in Ørestad Nord: 46 million DKR
Library in Ørestad City: 35 million DKR
Other facilities for culture: 15 million DKR
Open air Mecca? in Ørestad: 16 million DKR

Good news Acebone.

Valbyborger_ii - unfortunately the kobberhouse is the most postponed building in the history of Ørestad or perhaps in Denmark it has been on it's way since 2004/2005 (you can actually see it on some of Tournesols photos in the first Ørestads Thread.)

No hope for me about kobberhuset before it's finished.

Ørestad: 2000 - 2009

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/tictac2k1/tt1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/tictac2k1/tt1b.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/tictac2k1/tt2b.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/tictac2k1/tt2.jpg

Sydhavn (inderhavn, kalvebod etc.): 1977 - 2009

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/tictac2k1/tt3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/tictac2k1/tt3b.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/tictac2k1/tt4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/tictac2k1/tt4b.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/tictac2k1/tt5.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/tictac2k1/tt5b.jpg

Simply just some great photos - thanks a lot - what a change in so few years:-)

At the request of Lars HH and inspires by mlm and Tictac - here are some elder pictures from Ørestad between Oct. 2002 and Sep. 2004. Hope it is'nt regarded as spam!

DR
January 2003
http://www.kifora.dk/DR,%20jan%2003.JPG

Maj 2003
http://www.kifora.dk/DR%20maj%2003.JPG

Oct. 2003
http://www.kifora.dk/DR,%20okt_%2003,%204.JPG

Fields
Nov. 2002
http://www.kifora.dk/Fields%202,%20nov_%202002.JPG

March 2003
http://www.kifora.dk/Fields%202%20mar%2003.JPG

IT-University
January 2003
http://www.kifora.dk/IT-hoejskolen%201,%20jan%2003.JPG

Karen Blixen Parken
May 2003
http://www.kifora.dk/Karen%20B,%201%20maj%2003.JPG

KLP 1
Dec. 2002
http://www.kifora.dk/KLP%202,%2018%20dec%2002.JPG

Parkhusene
May 2003
http://www.kifora.dk/Parkhusene%20maj%2003.JPG

Tietgen Campus
Sep. 2004
http://www.kifora.dk/Tietgen,%20sep_%2004,1.JPG

WM-houses
Sep. 2004
http://www.kifora.dk/VMhusene,%20sep,%202004,%201.JPG

SPAM?! This is awesome stuff :)

The Grand Opening is next week. As it was a lovely evening I decided to swing by to see the progress. There are piles and piles of dirt down there but some of the facilities are done and looking swell. Strong colors and lots of innovative ideas. In fact, I'm pretty sure it's going to be quite awesome!

http://belmaati.com/pics/plugandplay1.jpg

http://belmaati.com/pics/plugandplay2.jpg

http://belmaati.com/pics/plugandplay3.jpg

There's going to be lots of jumping the fence to get the ball back. This orange turf was made up of some kind of soft fabric. Really interesting and hopefully durable.

http://belmaati.com/pics/plugandplay4.jpg

Dirty shoes... messy, messy. Oh, and yes - the turf has a nice bounce so you won't get crippled when you try to skamdunk the basketball.

http://belmaati.com/pics/racetrack.jpg

BMX races I guess?

http://belmaati.com/pics/hoops1.jpg

Lebron may stop by some day...

http://belmaati.com/pics/floodlights.jpg

I think some kind of convenience store down there would be great. I guess what with the new stadium and all there will be something...

How is the situation on experience centers... ?

I'm thinking... Ørestaden should a great place to make something like Postdamer Platz in Berlin... with the Sony Center...
http://images.google.dk/images?hl=da&ei=g498SsTPNcfx-Qba9IhZ&resnum=0&q=potsdamer+platz+sony+center&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=ho98StX7DoWF-Qazp-0-&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=4

Or maybe build an IMAX cinema like the one in London. These could be build next to the Multiarena.
http://images.google.dk/images?hl=da&q=imax%20london&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi

It could really make Ørestaden the place to be for young people with flair for music, movies, technology and other events.

they definitely need some kind of store/kiosk/7-11 kinda place (or places) where u can get drinks, ice cream, some quick food/snack, etc.. or else nobody will wanna go down there.... it does look pretty cool though.

I agree entirely. Also somewhere where parents to younger kids can get a cup of coffee while waiting for them to get tired (can last many hours)
See this example from that fantastic skater facility (or whatever that kind of thing is called) in Malmö near the Turning Torso

http://i32.tinypic.com/5kk9af.jpg

wow, ørestaden looks amazing... but i have a questions!

i know that ørestaden is going to be a business area, but also a residental area.. who are supposed to live here? are people from other parts of denmark supposed to move to copenhagen? will there be many immigrants, or is it cuz the fertillity rate in denmark has been high so the population is increasing?

i dont know, it just seems so weird to build a whole new city (though its a part of copenhagen).. i dont understand where the inhabbitants are going to come from! :)

wow, ørestaden looks amazing... but i have a questions!

i know that ørestaden is going to be a business area, but also a residental area.. who are supposed to live here? are people from other parts of denmark supposed to move to copenhagen? will there be many immigrants, or is it cuz the fertillity rate in denmark has been high so the population is increasing?

i dont know, it just seems so weird to build a whole new city (though its a part of copenhagen).. i dont understand where the inhabbitants are going to come from! :)

The population have been growing, and there have been lack of housing in Copenhagen for many years. It's part of the still ungoing urbanisation. It's the same in cities like Stockholm, Oslo, Malmø and other major cities. Actually the growth in Copenhagen have lacked somewhat behind cities like Stockholm.

...and it has nothing to do with a "new city" (nor a town, a city reguires a cathedral and there's not even a church), its just another district.

http://blog.politiken.dk/milos/2009/08/12/anmeldelse-af-drs-grimme-og-dyre-koncerthus/

Well, as a Danish expat I don't know if I love or hate the Orestad. I love the fact that there's finally something moving in my old hometown - after decades of stagnation. I also love the way the use the new metro to reinvigorate periferal parts of town - and help finance itself in the process. That said...

...some of what goes on in Orestad reminds me of the urban renewal of Brussels over the last decade. The Belgians turned the neighbourhood around the Gare du Nord from a seedy, rundown backwater into a parade of, sometimes innovative, highrise buidlings. Now they have started doing the same at the Gare du Midi. Intentions were good: plenty of free land, boulevards, parks - totally out of Le Corbusier's book. The "vertical city" come to life. But, but, but... these are now neighbourhoods where I would not let my teenage daughter walk at night. Because, there's not a SOUL on the streets after 9 pm. For neighbourhoods to be cosy and safe there needs to be newsstands, cafes, kiosks, cinemas, etc. which are buzzing around the clock.

Orestad is not quite as bad. For starters there's more housing and less offices. But IMHO there's a similar failure of planning: what do planners foresee to make neigbourhoods cosy, inviting and uplifting to the humans spirit? Well, CANALS of course. That's what made the success of Christianshavn and Nyhavn! So, they gave us straight canals, with cemented sides and steel bridges. Not a tree is out of line. Alas, just like those "cosy" boulevards of Brussels which (also) are straight, cemented, barren and shunted by most people. - And, in both cities, where are the cafés and the newsstands? :ohno:

Well, as a Danish expat I don't know if I love or hate the Orestad. I love the fact that there's finally something moving in my old hometown - after decades of stagnation. I also love the way the use the new metro to reinvigorate periferal parts of town - and help finance itself in the process. That said...

...some of what goes on in Orestad reminds me of the urban renewal of Brussels over the last decade. The Belgians turned the neighbourhood around the Gare du Nord from a seedy, rundown backwater into a parade of, sometimes innovative, highrise buidlings. Now they have started doing the same at the Gare du Midi. Intentions were good: plenty of free land, boulevards, parks - totally out of Le Corbusier's book. The "vertical city" come to life. But, but, but... these are now neighbourhoods where I would not let my teenage daughter walk at night. Because, there's not a SOUL on the streets after 9 pm. For neighbourhoods to be cosy and safe there needs to be newsstands, cafes, kiosks, cinemas, etc. which are buzzing around the clock.

Orestad is not quite as bad. For starters there's more housing and less offices. But IMHO there's a similar failure of planning: what do planners foresee to make neigbourhoods cosy, inviting and uplifting to the humans spirit? Well, CANALS of course. That's what made the success of Christianshavn and Nyhavn! So, they gave us straight canals, with cemented sides and steel bridges. Not a tree is out of line. Alas, just like those "cosy" boulevards of Brussels which (also) are straight, cemented, barren and shunted by most people. - And, in both cities, where are the cafés and the newsstands? :ohno:

You're absolutely right. But also my main complain, as I've said again and again, I think the biggest mistake was to build Field's as a regular shopping mall outside of the city core (on af field - as the name reply), without any interaction at all with the surrounding city!!
Why didn't they make it an urban mall that opened up to the rurrounding city? With shopping facades turning out also, with big open glass facades, with the cafés and restaurant and fast food places in the ground floor, instead of hided away on the top floor??!!

In the original plan the Ørestad Boulevard with the canal and the metro above it should have been a kind of a main street for Ørestad. But why didn't they make it a main street, with shopping, with cafés, with cozy places - and first of all (the most important) an unbroken line of buildings?
In the old neighbourhoods of Copenhagen we have the "brogader" as the bakbone of the city. They should have made the same for Ørestad.

The canal in Ørestad City actually is kind of nice with its curvy shape, and the dense buidlings a long it. It could be a perfect place for some urban life. But unfortunately there is non - partly because of Field's next door, partly because thay havn't done enough to make it happen. Why wasn't it there the first business outside of Field's opned - instead of VM-houses and such places?

And finally I can't believe why they have made so much parks and open spaces, when Ørestad is situated right next to the biggest green area of the Copenhagen region??!
I don't understand why they didn't make the area much more dense and urban, like Sluseholmen and Tuborg. These areas are in my opinion much more succesful than Ørestad. I think the normal houses should have been lower (5-6 floors - like most houses in Copenhagen), with a block structure (but with new architectural interpretation, like in Sluseholmen and Tuborg), and the much higher high rises to stick up, with a dense cluster of high rises aorund Ørestad Station. That would have made the area much more lively, also architectural, than now when we have small dense areas with lots of open space between them, and very high basic houses (8-12 floors) and low high rises.

You're absolutely right. But also my main complain, as I've said again and again, I think the biggest mistake was to build Field's as a regular shopping mall outside of the city core (on af field - as the name reply), without any interaction at all with the surrounding city!!
Why didn't they make it an urban mall that opened up to the rurrounding city? With shopping facades turning out also, with big open glass facades, with the cafés and restaurant and fast food places in the ground floor, instead of hided away on the top floor??!!
Exactly. I coundn't have said it better myself. For instance, take a look at Spinderiet in Valby. Here they've integrated the mall very well with the rest of the city. There's restaurants and bars at ground level, which opens up towards the city and creates activity outside the mall. It's a much better solution than Field's.

Exactly. I coundn't have said it better myself. For instance, take a look at Spinderiet in Valby. Here they've integrated the mall very well with the rest of the city. There's restaurants and bars at ground level, which opens up towards the city and creates activity outside the mall. It's a much better solution than Field's.

Yes, Spinderiet is a good example of a good urban mall - taking the best from the classic mall, and the best the classic city, and with good interaction with the rest of Valby.

One of my favorite examples is Aker Brygge in Oslo - a perfect example of how you can make a modern shopping center in a new developed area, and still create outside life!

Now we're at it, I don't understand Fisketorvet either. Perfectly placed in the habour, with water outside, even used in the marketing, and still almost totally closed to the waterside. Why didn't they make a shopping promenade outside a long the waterside??!! With shops, cafés and restaurant. it could have been the greatest place in town.
Again let me bring up Tuborg. Waterfront is another good example of a good new shopping mall in a new developed area trying to open up, and create outside life - taking advantage of the canal outside and the surroundings.

I think the biggest mistake was to build Field's as a regular shopping mall outside of the city core (on af field - as the name reply), without any interaction at all with the surrounding city!!
Why didn't they make it an urban mall that opened up to the rurrounding city? With shopping facades turning out also, with big open glass facades, with the cafés and restaurant and fast food places in the ground floor, instead of hided away on the top floor??!!


Urbanus, you make it sound as if part of the problem is that Fields gobbled up most of the urban planning quota for shopping areas? I hadn't thought of that. I've lived for so long in a country with much more relaxed planning: when the French authorities release an area for residential development (in the broadest sense of the word) then that area may not be used for industry or shopping centres, of course, but how many small shops and restaurants "bubble up" is as much of a surprise to the planners as to everyone else.

Then there are the "planned compounds", which I think are a bit closer to what's going on in the Orestad. I visited one last weekend in the eastern part of Gennevilliers where the now largely defunct river port and surrounding industrial areas are being redeveloped. They have started in one corner which is less than a fourth the size of the Orestad, but even there the demand from authorities to developers is clear: for each xx square metres of residential construction and for each yy square metres of commercial real estate there must be zz square metres of retail shopping. The developers unsurprisingly solve this problem by reserving most of the ground floors of the new houses for shopping space. Voila...

...it need not be more complicated than that. For this reason I tend to disagree that one should have put a great big shopping mall in the middle of Orestad Boulevard. Less does it. Just a handful of shops in every housing compound and office block. Conversely, and also very much for this reason, I agree totally that one should have allowed the Orestad to become considerably denser. How on earth may one obtain an "urban environment" when the houses stand yelling to each other? :ohno:

Agree completely.
This photo from Spinderiet in Valby could have been Fields.
Occasionally closed shopping malls work quite well when they are well integrated in an existing township like Frederiksberg Center and the Arcade in Hillerød.
In Valby it was the local authorities that insisted on an open centre. So it is strange that they allowed Fields and Fisketorv to be so closed, resulting in the failure of the towncentres as living centres. Maybe things will improve with the Ørestads Downtown project which works with far more open shopping streets and small squares.

http://i25.tinypic.com/6p19q1.jpg

Jep, you're all right, but it is question about money, Ørestadsselskabet was nearly bankrupt so they had to do something and you can't put spinderiet on an open field.

The reason why I chose Ørestad instead of Sluseholmen was because of the infrastructure (metro, train and highway)and Field's works partly for me when we are in the mid of January and need a family shopping place.(dermed ikke sagt at boksen ikke har æstetiske problemer). I think that's the main reason that there is no empty appartments in Ørestad compared to sluseholmen.

The Liebeskinds plan www.orestaddowntown.dk clearly tries to fix the Field's problem with a Spinderiet like solution, though there'll be 5 - 10 years before we have it.

I don't think you can compare Gare De Nord in Bruxelles with Ørestad, there's plenty of people in the evening night - Ørestad is the most peaceful place in Copenhagen regarding crime etc.

While we are comparing Ørestad, in a positive manner, to other cities, isn´t it about time someone built glass roofs on the platforms to offer some protection against the weather.
Ørestad has just as many daily passengers and probably more trains as Odense and there, there are long roofs on all 3 platforms

http://i29.tinypic.com/2vnmgle.jpg

isn´t it about time someone built glass roofs on the platforms to offer some protection against the weather.


I hear you! That's a good suggestion - why has this not been done already?
It's sister station - Svågertorp in Sweden looks alot like it, however, the swedes has never hidden the fact that it's just temporary. Soon to be replaced with a state of the art top modern station in Hyllie!

Im sure that talented architects could do a lot to Ørestaden station if given approval and appropriate funds! It all boils down to priorities i guess...

Svågertorp
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dc/Sv%C3%A5gertorp_station%2C_Malm%C3%B6.jpg/800px-Sv%C3%A5gertorp_station%2C_Malm%C3%B6.jpg

The new station at Hyllie
http://www.malmo.se/images/18.5d8108001222c393c00800013797/park-n-ride.jpg

Jep, you're all right, but it is question about money, Ørestadsselskabet was nearly bankrupt so they had to do something and you can't put spinderiet on an open field.

The reason why I chose Ørestad instead of Sluseholmen was because of the infrastructure (metro, train and highway)and Field's works partly for me when we are in the mid of January and need a family shopping place.(dermed ikke sagt at boksen ikke har æstetiske problemer). I think that's the main reason that there is no empty appartments in Ørestad compared to sluseholmen.

The Liebeskinds plan www.orestaddowntown.dk clearly tries to fix the Field's problem with a Spinderiet like solution, though there'll be 5 - 10 years before we have it.

I don't think you can compare Gare De Nord in Bruxelles with Ørestad, there's plenty of people in the evening night - Ørestad is the most peaceful place in Copenhagen regarding crime etc.

Thanks, Lars. You throw a lot of interesting information in my direction, and a few points for discussion. I'll put it on bullet points:

1) I didn't realise that the early Orestad developments grew out of financial distress in the company. I see now that perhaps I should have: why would anyone in their right mind start by selling land in a "sexy new" development zone to public institutions and... psychiatric hospitals?

2) The point about Field is, I guess, a question of taste and habits. Dane though I am I have lived in FR and CH for so long that I insist on bying my meat in a butcher's shop, my fish from a fishmonger, etc. etc. The presence of a mega market is totally irrelevant to my everyday shopping (Saturday may be different... :)) because I don't go there.

3) Liebeskind's plan looks real nice. But... will it in your view be enforced? I've already alluded to the harshness with which the centralistic French authorities sometimes force property developers to build what "Le Gouvernement de la Cinquieme Republique" thinks ought to be built. Can the Orestad company enforce the implementation of the Liebeskind plan - or is it just another one of those architect competitions that look nice on paper?

4) I wasn't aware that the Orestad is so light on crime. Good on you. In France, when a bourgeois neighbourhood gets connected to the metro all the "ludere, lommetyve og landstrygere" immediately show up. Your point about plenty of people being on the street must, though, surely be an exaggeration? I can see why now, still in summer, people might be out on the lawns relaxing. But... would there still be dozens of people walking the streets of Orestad after 9 pm in November? In the absense of restaurants and kiosks? I somehow doubt that.

Beklager, men jeg bliver nød til at svare på dansk, hvis jeg også skal have tid til putte den lille.


Thanks, Lars. You throw a lot of interesting information in my direction, and a few points for discussion. I'll put it on bullet points:

1) I didn't realise that the early Orestad developments grew out of financial distress in the company. I see now that perhaps I should have: why would anyone in their right mind start by selling land in a "sexy new" development zone to public institutions and... psychiatric hospitals?

2) The point about Field is, I guess, a question of taste and habits. Dane though I am I have lived in FR and CH for so long that I insist on bying my meat in a butcher's shop, my fish from a fishmonger, etc. etc. The presence of a mega market is totally irrelevant to my everyday shopping (Saturday may be different... :)) because I don't go there.

3) Liebeskind's plan looks real nice. But... will it in your view be enforced? I've already alluded to the harshness with which the centralistic French authorities sometimes force property developers to build what "Le Gouvernement de la Cinquieme Republique" thinks ought to be built. Can the Orestad company enforce the implementation of the Liebeskind plan - or is it just another one of those architect competitions that look nice on paper?

4) I wasn't aware that the Orestad is so light on crime. Good on you. In France, when a bourgeois neighbourhood gets connected to the metro all the "ludere, lommetyve og landstrygere" immediately show up. Your point about plenty of people being on the street must, though, surely be an exaggeration? I can see why now, still in summer, people might be out on the lawns relaxing. But... would there still be dozens of people walking the streets of Orestad after 9 pm in November? In the absense of restaurants and kiosks? I somehow doubt that.

1.
Ørestadsselskabet var/er et selvejende offentligt firma, dvs. man må ikke overføre penge direkte. Anlæggelse af offentlige institutioner var derved en måde at sikre tilstrækkeligt økonomisk grundlag. (DR, hospital, IT-uni mv.) For derved at håbe på efterfølgende private investorer. Den daværende socialdemokratiske regering hjalp de socialdemokratiske kammerater i Kbh.

2.
Ja, der minder danskere forbrugsmønstre om amerikanere, selvom man selvfølgelig ikke vil indrømme det i et selskab. Mit problem er at den gode fiskerforhandler stort set ikke eksisterer længere.

3.
Liebeskinds plan ER lokalplanen, lokalplanen blev ændret da han fremlagde sin plan. Første gang i danmarkshistorien at en arkitekt indirekte dikterede en lokalplan. Jeg har posted lokalplanen herinde for cirka 2 år siden. Cab Inn er et direkte resultat af "Liebeskinds lokalplan" - som den første bygning derfra - synes faktisk at den begynder at se okay ud.

4.
http://www.orestad.dk/privat/index/privat/sm_nyhedsbrev_visning.htm?newsId=18164

Stemningen i Ørestad pt. kan nok bedst sammenlignes med den i en nyere dansk middelklasse forstad i den pænere ende, med mange børnefamilier og folk plus 30 år.
Ved eftermiddagstid får du dog en bylig fornemmelse i området fra stationen ned til Arne Jacobsens Alle. Som du kan læse i rapporten har vi eksempelvis ingen hærværk eller graffiti haft på vores bygning i nu to og et halvt år.

Og lige en sidste ting alle stueetager langs Ørestad Boulevard og Arne Jacobsen Alle er udlagt til butikker og erhverv, finanskrisen betyder bare at ingen tør investere i dem og huslejen skal klart reguleres ned - http://www.kobberhuset.dk/download/kobberhuset_brochure.pdf er et eksempel på det som er gået i stå. (det er nærmest blevet en urban myth, at field's har monopol på dette i Ørestad, selvom et hurtigt blik på lokalplanen kan se at det er lodret forkert)

There are 4 big mistakes in Ørestaden IMO. First, too many commies. Second, the metro should be underground. Too noisy and ugly the way it is now. Third, too much space between the buildings. Fourth, no shopping streets.

It's also a fact that Ørestad(though it's a long part) is situated in the (periferi) along the villas of Amager.

^^ Yep, that's also one of the main problems with Ørestad - atleast in my opionion. If the Ørestad downtown area was situated closer to Islands Brygge (like IT-Universitetet and Tietgenkollegiet), a lot of the daily urban life and activities would already be there. Instead they're starting from scratch, far from the city.

But when that is said, I'm sure Ørestad is going to succeed as a lively and vibrant borough - it's just going to take a little while longer than needed...

^^ Yep, that's also one of the main problems with Ørestad - atleast in my opionion. If the Ørestad downtown area was situated closer to Islands Brygge (like IT-Universitetet and Tietgenkollegiet), a lot of the daily urban life and activities would already be there. Instead they're starting from scratch, far from the city.

Well.... if you take a walk in the new area of Islands Brygge you will not see much more life after dark than in Ørestad.... even though it is close to the old part of Islands Brygge.

anyone knows how Holmen is doing when it comes to street life and so on?

Liebeskinds plan ER lokalplanen, lokalplanen blev ændret da han fremlagde sin plan. Første gang i danmarkshistorien at en arkitekt indirekte dikterede en lokalplan. Jeg har posted lokalplanen herinde for cirka 2 år siden. Cab Inn er et direkte resultat af "Liebeskinds lokalplan" - som den første bygning derfra - synes faktisk at den begynder at se okay ud.


OHO... that's almost right up there with the architect Haussmann remodelling large parts of Paris in the late 19th century. OK, he held elected office and could enforce his will, but... :lol:

And, I too like the touch-and-feel they're giving to CabInn - not least as I normally think of this hotel chain as pretty far down market. If I understand it correctly, though, the hotel itself is not designed by Liebeskind? He merely created the facade for it to stay in tune with the said "development plan"?

Stemningen i Ørestad pt. kan nok bedst sammenlignes med den i en nyere dansk middelklasse forstad i den pænere ende, med mange børnefamilier og folk plus 30 år. Ved eftermiddagstid får du dog en bylig fornemmelse i området fra stationen ned til Arne Jacobsens Alle.

Point taken. One reason I live in Paris - as opposed to the Naestved of my childhood; and Hvidovre of my student days - is that I find both of the latter municipalities much too quiet and boring. That's my personal choice, of course, and I need to keep in mind that it is fairer to compare Orestad with the average Danish surburbia (that most of the Danish middle class prefer) rather than the high stress levels of downtown Paris (that I prefer).

Some of the masterplan, as shown on the Orestad Downtown page, does however frighten me. Look at the graphics of the Central Square, for example. It reminds me of certain redevelopment projects in London, which the Brits themselves nowadays admit were mistakes. I remember a self-flaggelating article in the Financial Times comparing the Pompidou Centre of Paris and Tate Modern in London. The journalist said (rightly in my view) that "the Pompidou Centre is an eyesore, squeezing half an acre of misguided technology love, sheet iron and glass panes into one of the oldest and most popular parts of Paris. Tate Modern is an architectual gem with beautiful lines, fitting harmoniously into town and using the most precious construction materials". All good and fine. But the journalist then went on to ask himself "why, therefore, has Tate Modern largely flopped, whereas the Pompidou Centre is enourmously popular with the general public?" He concluded that this is because the Parisians allow themselve to have a "square that lives and breathes" around the Centre. Not just 10+ pavement cafes directly on the square - they are supplemented by neighbourhood shops, street artists, entertainers, salesmen of all kinds of crafted goods, cheap clothes, etc. (And if the business associations were to complain to the police that the street vendors operate without permit and without paying VAT then the Parisian police would laugh them out on the street... :)) Unfortunately, Mr. Liebeskind's cement squares surrounded by beautiful facades look more to me like Tate Modern than the Beaubourg neighbourhood.

Well.... if you take a walk in the new area of Islands Brygge you will not see much more life after dark than in Ørestad.... even though it is close to the old part of Islands Brygge.
No, I guess not. But I'm talking about the areas around Njalsgade and Islands Brygge Metro. My bad for not making it clearer...

Uh getting darker:

http://static.c4d.dk/images/image_1582009_104932.png

Uh getting darker:



Indeed!! I was out there for the opening of Plug'n Play (cool place btw) and was supprised how cool it looks with the black cladding. That hotel will be a beauty i think!

There are 4 big mistakes in Ørestaden IMO. First, too many commies. Second, the metro should be underground. Too noisy and ugly the way it is now. Third, too much space between the buildings. Fourth, no shopping streets.

I have to disagree with regard to the metro. Personally I think placing the metro at an elevated track is nothing short of genius. The metro, in my opinion, constitutes the very pulse of Ørestaden. I love looking out of the window at night seeing the driver-less trains pass by. Its futuristic and cool looking and provides a distinctively urban feel to the area.

Sure, I too would prefer some more shops outside Fields, but you have to be realistic about how to develop the area. Nobody opens up, say a clothes shop, from the get go. There are simply not enough customers around during the early stages of the development (and yes, Ørestaden is still in its infancy!). It takes time.

I have to disagree with regard to the metro. Personally I think placing the metro at an elevated track is nothing short of genius. The metro is, in my opinion, constitute the very pulse of Ørestaden. I love looking out of the window at night seeing the driver-less trains pass by. Its futuristic and cool looking and provides a distinctively urban feel to the area.

Sure, I too would prefer some more shops outside Fields, but you have to be realistic about how to develop the area. Nobody opens up, say a clothes shop, from the get go. There are simply not enough customers around during the early stages of the development (and yes, Ørestaden is still in its infancy!). It takes time.

Couldn't have said it better myself:)

Couldn't have said it better myself:)

+1

Some good news: New construction will start 1st of October.

It is the AAB flats situated "inside" the golf park complex that will start construction on the 1st of October.

Some good news: New construction will start 1st of October.

It is the AAB flats situated "inside" the golf park complex that will start construction on the 1st of October.

Link?

Yep a link would be very appreciated I'm not a fan of the architectural style that the public sector (almene sektor) has been practicing in Ørestad

Couldn't have said it better myself:)

Me neither! I think most criticism of ørestaden should wait, because it's simply not relevant to critize something which is far from finished.

Me neither! I think most criticism of ørestaden should wait, because it's simply not relevant to critize something which is far from finished.

It does not look like that Ørestaden is going to get finished any time soon. Regrettably that makes Ørestaden, in all unfairness, a target for ridicule and condemnation, because the naive spectator are seeing many of the mistakes of the plattenbau era in the sixties and seventies repeated all over again in a modern setting.

Instead of giving the critics the brush off, one should take it seriously. Where is Ørestaden heading? Is cool architecture like WM and 8 enough to avoid the surburban trap? Ørestaden has tons of issues, but also so many currently unused possibilities, because of the metro and highways. Hopefully the critics can put the spotlight on some of the unused potential?

Link?

No link, but my source is from AAB.

Yep a link would be very appreciated I'm not a fan of the architectural style that the public sector (almene sektor) has been practicing in Ørestad

Brohuset did not turn out that well, in my opinion. However, I think that Sejlhuset has turned out very well.

Anyway it will be hidden by the golf park so it will not add anything to Ørestad regarding architecture, but it will surely densify the area and complete one more spot.

Anyway it will be hidden by the golf park so it will not add anything to Ørestad regarding architecture, but it will surely densify the area and complete one more spot.

Exactly and that is the good news!

I know we got a lot of friends from sejlhuset inhere, but sejlhuset didn't ended up they way that it looked on vandkunstens renderings - and things like that disappoint me, because then it doesn't make sense that the buildings in Ørestad have to be in a high architectural standard, when things ends up different then promised.

It does not look like that Ørestaden is going to get finished any time soon. Regrettably that makes Ørestaden, in all unfairness, a target for ridicule and condemnation, because the naive spectator are seeing many of the mistakes of the plattenbau era in the sixties and seventies repeated all over again in a modern setting.

Instead of giving the critics the brush off, one should take it seriously. Where is Ørestaden heading? Is cool architecture like WM and 8 enough to avoid the surburban trap? Ørestaden has tons of issues, but also so many currently unused possibilities, because of the metro and highways. Hopefully the critics can put the spotlight on some of the unused potential?

I don't think I gave him (I assume :)) the brush off. I was simply pointing out a few aspects of his critique to which I disagreed.

With regards to the general architecture of Ørestaden: I agree that some of the buildings are lacking both in terms of quality as well as overall architectural design. Brohuset has been mentioned, but several other buildings, particularly along the park, could also be singled out. I do, however, think that it would be unrealistic - and unwise if I may add - to expect all buildings to mirror WM Huset/Bjerget. I really like these buildings, but they are alot more expensive to build (and subsequently buy) and not very practical unless you are single or a couple without kids. The rest of us needs something more traditional to live in, you know, a place with walls and rooms :)

I do, however, think that it would be unrealistic - and unwise if I may add - to expect all buildings to mirror WM Huset/Bjerget. I really like these buildings, but they are alot more expensive to build (and subsequently buy) and not very practical unless you are single or a couple without kids. The rest of us needs something more traditional to live in, you know, a place with walls and rooms :)

I live in V-huset with my family... and at the time we bought the appartment it was without doubt the building with lowest price per square meter in Ørestad.... even if you consider all the usless square meters in the appartment :lol:

I agree that Bjerget is expensive, but V-Huset was and still is cheaper than other appartments in Ørestad.
On top of this I can add that compared to other stories I have heard from Ørestad and Copenhagen in general we have had very few cases of substandard constructions.
so it should be possible to build differently without high cost.

I think one of the reasons VM-Husene is a bit cheaper is that everything is standard. You couldn't choose between 5 kitchens and bathrooms.... all appartment are equipt equally.

/Nicolaj

Also the abscence of internal walls supposedly made the VM Houses cheaper to construct.

Also the abscence of internal walls supposedly made the VM Houses cheaper to construct.

Yeah the appartments lack internal walls.... but still.... we bought for under 2.000.000 and at that time an appartment of same size in Ørestad costed something like 2.400.000+

I din't think the lack of plaster walls makes up for that difference.

Bella Center Hotel now 5 floors up on the southerly tower including 3 bedroom floors.
The northerly is up to podium height (2 floors ) and the connecting bridge on the first floor is in place.

http://i28.tinypic.com/2v9ujcw.jpg

Continuing on my bike trip along the paths through the golfcourse I noticed how the, now very green, golf course and the city park blend into each other. It looks huge!

http://i27.tinypic.com/29upukw.jpg

Lovely weather out on Amager. Ideal for outdoor cafés and the likes.

Yeah the appartments lack internal walls.... but still.... we bought for under 2.000.000 and at that time an appartment of same size in Ørestad costed something like 2.400.000+

I din't think the lack of plaster walls makes up for that difference.

Well, I for one would not be surprised if the developers have increased their profit quite a bit during the last years of the housing boom (i.e. after the construction of VM Huset). One reason why some of the apartments in VM Huset today sells at a lower rate could be due to the fact that they cater for a special group of buyers that don't mind living without walls :) (several real estate agents have told me that it is more difficult selling a apartment in say VM Huset/Bjerget, compared to an apartment in a more conventional building, simply because of the layout)

That being said. I too would like to live in VM Huset if only I could get a big apartment. Love that building!

Never give up, thanks for the small update, personally I'm just eager to see Copenhagen Towers!! :)

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2019%2008%2009/DSC04058.jpg

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2019%2008%2009/DSC04059.jpg

Great news about the AAB-building!!! Looking forward to seeing the final design.

Thanks for the small update Never give up and Kipple.. But does anyone have pictures of the other side of Copenhagen towers, the one facing ørestad syd?

Aren't the facades going to be different on each side?

Do solar panels work on the north side of a building?
If not, then it would be strange to make similar facades on both sides of the Crowne Plaza hotel.
I know that Arne Jacobsen placed sun shades on all 4 sides of a building for architectural reasons, and maybe Henning Larsen did the same on Ferring´s building in Ørestad but that was before the financial crises.
Any experts out there who can answer?

has anyone seen this picture of the crowne plaza? i cannot post it here since the site doesn't let me right click on the image

http://www.crowneplaza.com/h/d/cp/1/en/hotel/rkecp?rpb=hotel&crUrl=/h/d/cp/1/en/mapsearchresults

don't think i've seen it before at least

Do solar panels work on the north side of a building?
If not, then it would be strange to make similar facades on both sides of the Crowne Plaza hotel.
I know that Arne Jacobsen placed sun shades on all 4 sides of a building for architectural reasons, and maybe Henning Larsen did the same on Ferring´s building in Ørestad but that was before the financial crises.
Any experts out there who can answer?
I wrote an article back in March, which covers the cladding solutions. Read more here (http://c4d.dk/fokus-pa-orestad-copenhagen-towers).

has anyone seen this picture of the crowne plaza? i cannot post it here since the site doesn't let me right click on the image

http://www.crowneplaza.com/h/d/cp/1/en/hotel/rkecp?rpb=hotel&crUrl=/h/d/cp/1/en/mapsearchresults

don't think i've seen it before at least
Yep also dates back in March :)

REJSEGILDE PÅ RAMBØLLS NYE HOVEDSÆDE

I dag holder Nordeuropas største rådgivervirksomhed, Rambøll, rejsegilde på deres kommende hovedsæde i Ørestad - lige syd for Øresundsmotorvejen ved Ørestad Station.

http://www.byoghavn.dk/da-DK/sitecore/content/HavnLibrary/News/%7E/media/ramboll-rendering-480.ashx?w=480&h=360&as=1

Det 40.000 kvm. store byggeri bliver blandt Danmarks største kontordomiciler. Der er indflytning i 2010 for Rambølls 1300 ingeniører og andre ansatte.

Rambøll har valgt at flytte deres hovedsæde fra forstæderne nord for København til Ørestad på grund af bydelens fantastiske beliggenhed med kort afstand til metro, regionaltoge, motorvej og lufthavn, som giver Rambøll gode muligheder i kampen om at tiltrække de bedste medarbejdere og gør det let at komme til og fra arbejdspladsen fra hele Øresundsregionen.

Bydelens fremtid som regionalt vækstområde har gjort grunden interessant for SEB Pension som bygherre/udlejer og for Rambøll som hovedlejer.

Det er Dissing + Weitling, der er arkitekter på byggeriet, som er tegnet med inspiration fra Ramblaen i Barcelona. Byggeriet får både udadvendt café, kantine fitnesscenter, foyer og auditorium, så de mange medarbejdere har noget at se frem til.
:)

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/4.jpg

Pictures are from august 17th, 19th and 20th.

The cladding is mounted quite fast. :)

Pictures are from august 17th, 19th and 20th.

The cladding is mounted quite fast. :)
Forgot to say thanks yesterday,but thanks really appreciated! :)

Sjælsø said to me that the cladding would be a lot more shinier/glossy than the new rendering, so two questions:

1) Does it look shiny?
2) And does the cladding look like a cheap solution?

Forgot to say thanks yesterday,but thanks really appreciated! :)

Sjælsø said to me that the cladding would be a lot more shinier/glossy than the new rendering, so two questions:

1) Does it look shiny?
2) And does the cladding look like a cheap solution?

My oppinion:
1) yes
2) no

Sjælsø said to me that the cladding would be a lot more shinier/glossy than the new rendering, so two questions:

1) Does it look shiny?
2) And does the cladding look like a cheap solution?

My opinion:
1. Yes, a lot of reflection. It looks like glass thats coated with a dark grey color on the back.

2. No, not at all. I think it is very elegant and stylish. It is going to be great. :D

One side is now finished:
http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2022%2008%2009/DSC04066.jpg

@Lars & Nikolaj

Great, can't wait. I must visit Copenhagen soon :)
Thanks for answers and pictures.

http://epn.dk/privat/bolig/priser/article1792964.ece

They were a bit to expensive :)

http://epn.dk/privat/bolig/priser/article1792964.ece

They were a bit to expensive :)

Will be interesting to see if they can sell 8-tallet. That is a lot of apartments to get stuck with.:)

Will be interesting to see if they can sell 8-tallet. That is a lot of apartments to get stuck with.:)

Yes and in a unfinished part of Ørestad... I think they are in deep troubles due to the huge princecut at Bjerget.

Crown Plaza is shiny black and it looks really good I must say. I also noticed that they are cladding Rambøll.

Crown Plaza is shiny black and it looks really good I must say. I also noticed that they are cladding Rambøll.

YES!!! I noticed the same thing this morning. I like Crown Plaza more and more for each panel they mount on the building. I think it'll look really cool and it'll match Ferring pretty good.

I know it's off topic but I post it anyway :-)

take a look at this: http://politiken.dk/kultur/article776714.ece

it's quite amazing I think!! How do the come up with stuff like this, and for that matter Bjerget and 8-tallet?
They really think outside the box - amazing!

/Nicolaj

^^
Have a look here:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=188967&page=6
...also alot of other good stuff there :)

A little eye-candy:
http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/8493/img6204.jpg

http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/830/img6198.jpg

http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/8394/img6197.jpg

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/2164/img6193x.jpg

Wauw wauw wauw! Thanks a lot Øland. Looks great so far :happy:

At the moment, some very interesting architecture has arisen in Byparken:

http://historieblog.dk/wp-content/oppustning.JPG

It looks a bit like a monster, but is an installation called Luminarium, a sort of labyrinth of light.

http://historieblog.dk/wp-content/1.JPG

i've written a bit about my visit at the newest building in Ørestad on my blog (in Danish):
http://historieblog.dk/

When I was out there two days ago I also had a closer look at it and wondered what it was.

http://politiken.dk/debat/kroniker/article770377.ece

As some of you know Klaus Bondam and his male wife (Jacob Kamp) lived on Edv. Th. Vej this winter - and here is his criticism of Ørestad.

You can see a debate underneath the article.

http://politiken.dk/debat/kroniker/article770377.ece

As some of you know Klaus Bondam and his male wife (Jacob Kamp) lived on Edv. Th. Vej this winter - and here is his criticism of Ørestad.

You can see a debate underneath the article.

I think those of us without a complex, just calls it a husband...

Whats wrong with partner?

I think those of us without a complex, just calls it a husband...

Sorry I don't have any complex, I just didn't know the correct classification :)

^^ Or boyfriend. I do agree with his statements and can't fully agree more.


I had to wait, so I went to fields. I noticed that it's cruel against the bicyclists not to pave the lane near fields.

Sorry I don't have any complex, I just didn't know the correct classification :)

Would you - in Danish - call it "mandlig kone"?

Would you - in Danish - call it "mandlig kone"?
Ah come on stop it already :)

Can't wait for next months update, Lars! :banana:

Ah come on stop it already :)

Can't wait for next months update, Lars! :banana:

What? Its a fair question...

Would you - in Danish - call it "mandlig kone"?

Nej, men udenforstående var måske ikke klar over at Jacob og Klaus var gift. Jeg synes det er en vigtig pointe at vores Teknik- og miljøborgmester har boet på Edvard Thomsens Vej i relation til de kaotiske tilstande på P-området og den generelle syltning af området fra Klaus Bondam afdeling af rådhuset - specielt når Jacob tydeligvis har lavet sine reflektioner.

Lige så vel som historikeren Søren Mørchs karakteristik af Poul Nyrup er interessant, da Søren Mørch er gift med Ritt Bjerregaard.

Såfremt du er ude i et politisk korrekt korstog skal det siges at jeg er fuldkommen immun overfor det, da jeg koncentrerer mig om at behandle andre mennesker ordentlig. Desuden hører en sådan diskussion ikke hjemme her, men i et politisk forum andetsteds.

Desuden hører en sådan diskussion ikke hjemme her, men i et politisk forum andetsteds.

Der er vel ikke meget at diskutere? Bondams inkompetence er indiskutabel - mandekone eller ej :)

I'm changing subject now. Have you ever noticed how loud/noisy the highway is? Even from the benches at Fields ?

Nej, men udenforstående var måske ikke klar over at Jacob og Klaus var gift. Jeg synes det er en vigtig pointe at vores Teknik- og miljøborgmester har boet på Edvard Thomsens Vej i relation til de kaotiske tilstande på P-området og den generelle syltning af området fra Klaus Bondam afdeling af rådhuset - specielt når Jacob tydeligvis har lavet sine reflektioner.

Lige så vel som historikeren Søren Mørchs karakteristik af Poul Nyrup er interessant, da Søren Mørch er gift med Ritt Bjerregaard.

Såfremt du er ude i et politisk korrekt korstog skal det siges at jeg er fuldkommen immun overfor det, da jeg koncentrerer mig om at behandle andre mennesker ordentlig. Desuden hører en sådan diskussion ikke hjemme her, men i et politisk forum andetsteds.

Jeg er skam ikke ude i et politisk korrekt korstog, men jeg synes at vi bør benævne tingene korrekt, ikke nødvendigvis politisk, men rent faktuelt. Og undskyld mig, men du ville altså ikke kalde kalde det en mandlig kone. Hvorfor er der så en grund til at gøre det på engelsk. Kald tingene ved deres korrekte navn, og så kan enhver idiot se hvad det drejer sig om.

Og så er jeg i øvrigt, og det er så min fejl, enorm ligeglad med hvad Klaus Bondom mener om de fleste af livets forhold, inklusive Ørestad, eller hvor fanden han og hans mand bor. Manden har gjort enorm skade for København og jo før han kan vappes ud, jo bedre. Derfor handler min kritik ikke om vigtigheden af Klaus Bondams udtalelser, men om din udtalelse.

I'm changing subject now. Have you ever noticed how loud/noisy the highway is? Even from the benches at Fields ?

Great!! i mean the subject change is great, not the noise :nuts:

Yes, the highway IS very noisy espicially when it is wet :-(

Jeg er skam ikke ude i et politisk korrekt korstog, men jeg synes at vi bør benævne tingene korrekt, ikke nødvendigvis politisk, men rent faktuelt. Og undskyld mig, men du ville altså ikke kalde kalde det en mandlig kone. Hvorfor er der så en grund til at gøre det på engelsk. Kald tingene ved deres korrekte navn, og så kan enhver idiot se hvad det drejer sig om.


Jeg tror faktisk enhver idiot kunne se hvad det handlede om.....