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Lars_HH

January 2nd, 2010, 05:01 PM

We start with some night shoots from the Cop15 event.

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A cold day in Ørestad with frozen channels.

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Foodshop No.55 is about to open - we look forward to this it looks really nice!

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Saxo Bank is getting up fast now. ;)

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The place for the new Golf Club House

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It looks better now that Fairway closes the gap to Golfparken.

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Crowne Plaza is now open

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Winghouse looks great - I like the stairs it will give some nice "hygge" for the students in the summertime, those semiprivate spaces we need in Ørestad.

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Glædelig jul og godt nytår

Lars

ØlandDK

January 2nd, 2010, 05:22 PM

Thanks for the update! :)
I'm really excited about the outcome of the bella center hotel - looks promising.

TMG

January 2nd, 2010, 05:36 PM

Me too - thanks for a great update and yes - Bella Hotel - is very intereting.

Never give up

January 2nd, 2010, 06:04 PM

Great photos!
You can almost feel the how cold it is.

moveteam

January 3rd, 2010, 02:14 PM

Thanks for the photos! :)

nicolajb

January 3rd, 2010, 07:41 PM

does anyone knows when they will start selling/renting 8-Tallet?

dancle

January 3rd, 2010, 09:18 PM

Yeah nice update! Winghouse turned out great! And I'm actually starting to like crown plaza more and more, especially after seeing it in real life. It just looks like they have used top quality materials, and that does so much to the overall feel of a building..

Pisling

January 4th, 2010, 08:55 AM

Yep, thanks for a great update, Lars! It's mucho appreciated...

--moebius--

January 4th, 2010, 07:16 PM

Store prisfald venter Ørestad
Af Simon Nyborg, simn@berlingske.dk
Mandag den 4. januar 2010, 05:00

Mens markedet for kontorejendomme arter sig i Indre by, er udsigterne mere end dystre i Ørestad og Sydhavn. Det vurderer Jeudans topchef Per Hallgren, der her gør status over 2009 i den forkætrede ejendomsbranche og kommer med sit bud på 2010.

For de, der tror, at alting vender på ejendomsmarkedet i 2010, er det ikke godt nyt.

Vi er nemlig langtfra færdige med at se de sidste krak og de sidste prisfald på ejendomsmarkedet ifølge den erfarne ejendomsmand Per Hallgren, topchef i børsnoterede Jeudan.

Han tegner et billede af det nye år, hvor særlig de nye udviklingsområder i Ørestad og Københavns Havn vil gå en svær tid i møde med fortsat store prisfald på tomme kontorer og hel- og halvfærdige byggeprojekter. Og hvor gearede investorer fortsat vil bukke under.

»Det kan blive voldsomt i nogle områder, som f.eks. Ørestad og Sydhavn. Det bliver rigtig svært at trække op. Der skal nok blive fyldt i Ørestad om ti år. Men indtil da vil det ikke overraske mig, hvis helt op til en tredjedel af kontorerne står tomme,« siger Per Hallgren.

Men modsat mange kolleger begræder han ikke udviklingen: Den betyder tilbagevenden til de gamle dyder og er godt nyt for de velkonsoliderede aktører - og for den del af branchen, der så undrende til, mens uansvarligheden trivedes, da pengene flød så rigeligt.

Det delte marked
Per Hallgren tager imod i Jeudans hovedkvarter på Skt. Annæ Plads - et nænsomt istandsat palæ i hjertet af København, hvor det store ejendomsselskab også har den altovervejende del af sine ejendomme.

Dermed også sagt, at ejendomsmandens forventninger til 2010 favoriserer et selskab som hans eget, der altid har haft fokus på modne markeder i det centrale København og på konservativ drift.

»Det er en tendens, at handlen med velbeliggende ejendomme med solide lejere synes at være kommet i gang igen, og her vil priserne holde sig, eller stige svagt. Omvendt vil priserne fortsat falde for svært omsættelige aktiver, hvor der af den ene eller anden årsag er rod i driften,« siger Per Hallgren.

Til den sidste gruppe hører de ejendomme, som har været handlet til opskruede priser, og som nu ligger i afviklingsselskaber efter krakkede banker.

De vil fortsat miste værdi, og bankerne har klogeligt valgt at holde på dem, indtil driften er vendt rundt. En øvelse, hvis varighed ifølge Hallgren skal tælles i år.

Og så er der altså udviklingsprojekter i forskellige faser, hvor det ser helt sort ud:

»Hvem vil købe et byggeprojekt i dag,« spørger Per Hallgren retorisk.

Talentløs branche
Ørestad og Sydhavn er eksperimenter, der er set før både i Danmark og udlandet. De er i Hallgrens optik pendanter til udbyggelsen af Københavns Vestegn i 1980erne - »Betonkanten« som Hallgren kalder bæltet fra Ishøj til Ballerup, der også døjede med høj tomgang og lave priser i mange år.

»Det er set før og med samme resultat. Det er et udtryk for branchens talentløshed, at der blev bygget op mod 500.000 kvadratmeter uden lejekontrakter. I en periode, hvor der var næsten fuld beskæftigelse i Danmark, fortsatte man med at bygge kontorejendomme uden kontrakter. Vi ved fra tidligere, at det tager otte til ti år, før ejendomsmarkedet og byggeriet er i stand til at opsuge det,« siger Per Hallgren.

Hvad er læren så for Nordhavn, der allerede så småt er i gang?

»Den er enkel. Lad være med at bygge nyt, før du har kunderne på plads. Du kan bygge huse meget hurtigere, end folk kommer til nye, golde områder uden miljø,« lyder Per Hallgrens kollegiale råd.

Men den større lære går ikke blot på enkelte områder i krise. Den handler om at se tegnene i tide.

Ikke bankernes skyld
Per Hallgren er ude i et opgør med den del af branchen, der baserede hele sin forretning på evige prisstigninger på vegne af det samfund, der selv medvirkede til euforien. Og han viger ikke tilbage fra at lægge hovedansvaret på branchen selv:

»Bankerne har et ansvar over for deres aktionærer og for samfundet. Men hver gang de finansierer et projekt, er der ejendomsfolk, der allerede har truffet den første beslutning om at investere.«

Når investorernes jordforbindelse ryger, kommer krisen.

»Næste gang jeg ser nogen bygge, før de har kunder, ved jeg, at økonomien er på vej ned igen,« siger Per Hallgren.

Han glæder sig naturligvis ikke over krisen i sig selv. Men han glæder sig alligevel over den udrensning, der er i gang.

»De fleste siger om 2009, at det er et år, de gerne vil glemme. Sådan har jeg det faktisk ikke. Når jeg gerne vil huske 2009, er det for at minde vores efterkommere om, at man skal være påpasselig.«

http://www.business.dk/ejendomme/store-prisfald-venter-oerestad

Lars_HH

January 4th, 2010, 09:34 PM

http://www.business.dk/ejendomme/store-prisfald-venter-oerestad

Ingen tvivl om at Ørestad vil blive/er ramt af prisfald. Men bemærk at det er ejendomsselskabet Jeudans direktør der står bag de udtalelser - altså tydeligvis et partsindlæg. Jeudan er kun tilstede i indre by/strøget, hvor der i øjeblikket er store tvangsauktioner under opsamling, så de har selvfølgelig en interesse i at "spinne" imod deres "pris"konkurrenter. Svarende til at BMW direktøren mener at VW vil falde ekstra meget i pris under krisen - underforstået at BMW går nemmere ramt forbi.

Jeg mener derfor det skal tages med et gran salt, hvilket hverken Lorry eller Ritzau gør, fordi han taler direkte til fordommene om Ørestad. Store dele af Neroport og hele SEB/Rambøll er udlejet (mange etagemeter), jeg ser kun Mikadohouse, Winghouse og KLP2 i vanskeligheder. KLP er dog ligeglade da det er verdens rigeste oliefond der ejer denne (Norges).

Afslutningsvis er det jo klassisk monopolkapitalisme at de andre er spekulanter og underbyder en "fin" vare, det er da kun godt der er bygget meget så virksomhederne har mange og billige alternativer, men sådan ser Direktør Varnøs nok ikke på sagen ;)

knilaus

January 4th, 2010, 09:51 PM

knilaus

January 4th, 2010, 10:06 PM

Peter999

January 5th, 2010, 08:17 AM

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Thanks for the pics! :)
What is inside this box?
First I thought of earplugs, but then I saw that it was measured in ml/fl.oz

nicolajb

January 5th, 2010, 10:26 AM

It's not scheduled to be completed before September '10 but to my eye it looks as if they're going to finish it in stages with the southern end being practically ready for moving in.

I heard that the first appartments should be ready in march.... so i guess they will put prices on them soon..... at least i hope so. I think it looks soooo cool and if prices are reasonable then I might consider moving there :-)
Knilaus, you live at Stævnen right?
Do you like it there?

nicolajb

January 5th, 2010, 10:29 AM

Thanks for the update. Solid stuff as always.

The shop was open this morning but it seems they have yet to have their fridges properly installed.

Yes some parts aren't ready yet, but it's still so VERY cool that there's finally a cafe in Ørestad.... and a damn good one.
I've been waiting for this since they closed their shop at Bryggen in spring :-P

I was down there 2 times yesterday and this morning too.... to me that cafe just doubled the pleasure of living in Ørestad...

Lars_HH

January 5th, 2010, 12:07 PM

Yes some parts aren't ready yet, but it's still so VERY cool that there's finally a cafe in Ørestad.... and a damn good one.
I've been waiting for this since they closed their shop at Bryggen in spring :-P

I was down there 2 times yesterday and this morning too.... to me that cafe just doubled the pleasure of living in Ørestad...

Never tried the Café on Bryggen, but my girlfriend loved them. We visited foodshop no.55 last evening, damn it's the best cake and bread I have ever tasted. I can recommend it highly!

--moebius--

January 5th, 2010, 02:46 PM

We also got some bread from the cafe yesterday and surely it is good stuff.

Also went for a beer at the Towers bar and I must say I was pleasantly surprised. The interior in the lobby and bar was simply beautiful. One of the best hotel bar/lobby areas I have seen in quite some time! A real Scandinavian touch :o)

Lars_HH

January 7th, 2010, 09:45 AM

Apropos Jeudans spin artikel i berlingske.

Lejeaftaler på plads i Ørestad
AF PETER B. RASMUSSEN

Udlejning

Trods krisen er det fortsat muligt at få lejere lokket til i Ørestad. Dades og KLP Eiendomme har fået underskrifter på i alt tre lejeaftaler i den sidste del af 2009, og igangværende forhandlinger peger på, at flere er på vej.

Landets største ejendomsselskab Dades har ejendommen Wing House under opførelse og forventer at tage huset i brug til maj. Dele af Wing House vil fremover være et kontorhotel på 2000 kvadratmeter under navnet Business Center Wing House. Det er selskabet Brink Office, der har sat sig på lejemålet, og i øvrigt skal drive de øvrige fællesfaciliteter i det i alt 11.500 kvadratmeter store hus, der ligger centralt i den nye bydel.

Tyskejede Helm Scandinavia A/S har herudover sat sig på knap 500 kvadratmeter, og der er realitetsforhandlinger med en tredje interesseret lejer. Hertil kommer dialog med en fjerde.

»Vi sigter mod og håber på fuld udlejning til maj, når bygningen er færdig,« siger Boris Nørgaard Kjeldsen, adm. direktør i Dades.

Hos norskejede KLP Eiendomme er der også kommet hul på bylden efter en nedsættelse af priskravet pr. kvadratmeter på 25 pct., der blev offentliggjort for få måneder siden.

Lejenedsættelse virker

»Vi kan klart mærke en effekt af lejenedsættelsen. Der er en større interesse blandt potentielle lejere,« siger Stig Fermi-Erichsen, der er markeds- og ejendomschef i KLP’s danske afdeling.

En aftale med DIBS Payment Services, som udbyder internet betalingsløsninger, er netop faldet på plads. Virksomheden flytter ind i KLP’s ejendom på hjørnet af Arne Jacobsens Allé og Edvard Thomsens Vej centralt i Ørestad og kommer til at råde over et areal på 800 kvadratmeter i den nybyggede ejendom, der har stået tom i over et år. Hertil kommer forhandlinger med to større lejere, der ønsker at råde over ialt 5000 kvadratmeter.

Ifølge Københavns byudviklingsselskab, By & Havn, melder flere af projektudviklerne om en stigende interesse for lejemålene i Ørestad igennem december måned.

peter.rasmussen@borsen.dk

Lars_HH

January 7th, 2010, 09:48 AM

Nu bliver Københavns lavpristerminal bygget
AF PETER B. RASMUSSEN

Lufthavnsbyggeri

Københavns Lufthavns nye lavpriskoncept, CPH Swift, begynder at tage form. Byggeriet er netop skudt i gang og skal skubbe på udviklingen inden for lavpristrafikken og give danskere billige billetter til endnu flere destinationer. Brødrene A. & B. Andersen A/S er valgt som totalentreprenør på byggeriet, der skal stå færdig inden udgangen af 2010.

Den nye bygning opføres i forlængelse af lufthavnens eksisterende Finger D med direkte adgang til seks nye gates og skal tages i brug i slutningen af næste år. CPH Swift designes med særligt fokus på effektivitet for at give flyselskaberne nye muligheder for vækst.

»Lavprisselskaberne har præsteret betydelig vækst i Københavns Lufthavn i de seneste år og fortsætter med at ekspandere selv i det nuværende pressede marked. Med CPH Swift skaber vi et nyt koncept og nye fysiske rammer, der tilgodeser lavprisselskabernes krav til hurtig betjening af passagerer og klargøring af fly,« siger Brian Petersen, adm. direktør i Københavns Lufthavne A/S, som står bag lufthavnene i København og Roskilde.

CPH Swift vil fra starten have en årlig kapacitet på seks millioner passagerer, og der er mulighed for at udvide kapaciteten, når det bliver nødvendigt.

Investeringen på godt 200 mio. kr. er en integreret del af den udviklingsplan, der skal fremtidssikre Københavns Lufthavn.

Den nye bygning får et areal på 6700 kvadratmeter foruden et 2400 kvadratmeter stort gangareal, der forbinder CPH Swift med Finger D og Terminal 3. Som totalentreprenør er valgt Brødrene A. & B. Andersen A/S, der blandt andet også er totalentreprenør på to igangværende store byggerier i Ørestad – Neroport og Copenhagen Golf Park.

»Lufthavnen er som stærkt sikkerhedsovervåget internationalt trafikknudepunkt en kompleks byggeplads, og Brdr. A. & B. Andersen trækker på både interne kompetencer og faglig specialviden fra vores samarbejdspartnere for at løse denne opgave,« siger Henrik Bendsen, divisionsdirektør, Brdr. A. & B. Andersen.

CPH Swift er tegnet af Vilhelm Lauritzen Arkitekter, der også har tegnet Københavns Lufthavns Terminal 2 og 3 samt lufthavnens første rigtige terminalbygning fra 1939.

peter.rasmussen@borsen.dk

Illustrationstekst:

Københavns Lufthavns nye lavpriskoncept, CPH Swift, skal støtte aktiviteterne i lavpris- flyselskaberne, der også er i vækst under krisen. Illustration: Vilhelm Lauritzen Arkitekter

Pisling

January 11th, 2010, 10:02 AM

Nevermind.

Never give up

January 11th, 2010, 02:55 PM

I got tired of waiting for Bella Center to reopen their webcam (closed for security reasons 11th november) so I went out and took a photo myself.
The hotel will certainly be more spectacular than Crowne Plaza, but it is still hard to imagine what the finished building will look like (did someone say Saxo Towers?)

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...and the Wing building looks kind of nice beside it´s neighbours.

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Never give up

January 12th, 2010, 10:39 AM

They must have seen me out there!
The webcam is open again.

http://www.bellahotel.dk/Webcam

--moebius--

January 12th, 2010, 11:33 AM

More good news. Hopefully we will soon approach the tipping point in terms of the influx of new firms in Ørestad City. It ought to be a no brainer with the second-to-none infrastructure and nice buildings!

FLERE NYE VIRKSOMHEDER I ØRESTAD

Selvom krisen har sat sine spor på ejendomsmarkedet, har flere lejere netop sat deres underskrift på nye lejekontrakter i Ørestad. Udlejerne kan melde om stigende interesse for erhvervslejemålene, og flere kontrakter er inden for rækkevidde.

Ørestad kan sige goddag til mange nye virksomheder, der lejer sig ind i 2010. En god slutspurt i 2009 har sikret tre yderligere lejere i Ørestad City, og den øgede interesse for erhvervslejemål ser ud til at fortsætte i 2010.

Norske KLP Ejendomme har netop udlejet 800m2 til DIBS, som leverer betalingssystemer til internet. Et stenkast derfra åbner Dades kontorhuset Winghouse om få måneder. Her er der også gang i udlejningerne, og Dades har netop fået underskrifter på to lejekontrakter. Det er henholdsvis Helm Skandinavien og Brink Office, der har lejet sig ind i det markante erhvervsbyggeri midt i Ørestad City. Dades regner med at kunne underskrive flere lejekontrakter i den nærmeste fremtid, og i Ørestad Nord er C.W. Obel tæt på at kunne underskrive lejeaftaler i Mikado House.

I det nybyggede Neroport er forsikringsvirksomheden Skandia netop flyttet ind i 4.500 lejede kvadratmeter. Skandia flyttede fra større lokaler i Bøje Nielsens store Center Syd i Avedøre til lidt mindre lokaler i Hennings Larsens flotte Neroport på Kay Fiskers Plads i Ørestad City. Men antallet af kvadratmeter var faktisk mindre vigtigt, for de fik noget bedre i bytte, fortæller adm. direktør Charsten Christensen, Skandia Danmark: "Vi er flyttet ind i et gennemtænkt, tidssvarende og smukt byggeri, hvor vi kort sagt har fået mere plads på færre kvadratmetre."

Charsten Christensen fremhæver også Ørestads gode infrastruktur som et afgørende parameter:

"Hvis vi vil have de rigtige medarbejdere, må vi også kunne tilbyde de rigtige forhold. Vi er flyttet ind i internationale omgivelser og med metro, tog og motorvej lige til døren. Det kunne vi ikke have fundet noget andet sted", siger Charsten Christensen.

I By & Havn er der glæde over de positive signaler fra Ørestads udlejningsmarked;

"De seneste sager bekræfter den gode tendens. Vi hører løbende om nye udlejninger, og vi kan se, at lejerne efterspørger den gode infrastruktur og muligheden for at sætte eget præg på lokalerne", siger Jens Kramer Mikkelsen, adm. direktør i By & Havn.

Der arbejder dagligt omkring 10.000 mennesker i Ørestad. Det tal stiger til hvert fald 12.000 i løbet af 2010, når Rambøll og DI flytter til bydelen.

http://www.anp.se/newsletter/498467/424B51457341445F407546405B43

Pisling

January 12th, 2010, 01:18 PM

And here's more good news regarding Ørestad (well, it's new to me):

Konkurrence om nyt plejecenter i Ørestad Syd afgjort
Sammen med NCC, Dominia og GHB Landskabsarkitekter skal JJW ARKITEKTER udforme Ørestad Syds nye bæredygtige plejecenter for AKB, KAB og Københavns Kommune. Et byggeri, der både kommer til at fungere i arkitektonisk harmoni med de øvrige byggerier og skaber tryghed og hjemlighed for sine beboere. Med energioptimerende facadeløsninger, der begrænser elforbruget, og en placering i lavenergiklasse 2 får byggeriet en bæredygtig profil, der matcher Ørestadens grønne ambitioner.

Boligkarreen bliver struktureret som en høj kantbebyggelse, der omgiver en lavere, indre gårdverden, som er grøn og intim i kontrast til det ydre urbane miljø. Plejeboligerne er placeret på vestsiden af Vestamager Metrostation, så boligerne er nært koblet til et bæredygtigt transportnet. Plejeboligcentret forventes færdigopført i begyndelsen af 2012.

http://jjw.dk/graphics/JJW_Data/JJW_Nyheder_billeder/oerestad.gif

Sources: http://jjw.dk/sw7400.asp + http://www.bygnet.dk/bygnet/?action=302&id=12402

Never give up

January 12th, 2010, 02:53 PM

Ups! This should have been on another thread. Sorry

I took a look at your link to JJW achitects Pisling and fell over this piece of, I hope, good news. Photo is of their Christmas card. A new angle of the school.

JJW’s projekteringsarbejde med Sydhavnsskolen er nu i gang, og det første spadestik sættes i jorden om et års tid. Skolen er planlagt til at stå færdig i 2012 og bliver en skole præget af mange forskellige vandaktiviteter. Ud over skolens beliggenhed ved kanten af havnebassinet bliver der etableret regnvandsopsamling, og der kommer flydepontoner og svømmebassiner langs den østlige side af Sydhavnsskolen.

http://i50.************/2e3xu36.gif

Pisling

January 12th, 2010, 03:17 PM

^^ Yep, I saw it too. It looks really nice.

There's a bit more info here:
http://www.kk.dk/Borger/PasningOgSkolegang/ViBygger/Skoler/FlerePladser/SydhavnSkole.aspx

Lars_HH

January 14th, 2010, 12:55 PM

There is an add in børsen today from NCC, advertising for Company House in Ørestad Downtown - to be finished in 2013.

Looks like a part of the Liebeskind Plan

nicolajb

January 14th, 2010, 01:34 PM

There is an add in børsen today from NCC, advertising for Company House in Ørestad Downtown - to be finished in 2013.

Looks like a part of the Liebeskind Plan

wow.... good news
wondering what building in the plan we are talking about

Lars_HH

January 14th, 2010, 02:56 PM

wow.... good news
wondering what building in the plan we are talking about

It looks like one of the small one about 7- 10.000 sqm.

Hviid

January 15th, 2010, 03:49 PM

any updates on how far they've gotten with Copenhagen towers part 2?
(i apologize if its been said earlier on in the thread.. i havent had the chance to check SSC in a while :))

u_neek

January 17th, 2010, 12:11 PM

I'd like to know as well..

dancle

January 17th, 2010, 05:20 PM

^^ Me too!

Btw thanks for the small photo update! But what has happened with the Ørestad gymnasium? It looks so gritty, or is it just because of the rainy weather?

knilaus

January 26th, 2010, 08:28 PM

Lars_HH

January 27th, 2010, 11:52 PM

Thanks Knilaus!

Pisling

January 28th, 2010, 10:25 AM

Pension Danmark holder rejsegilde på 12.000 kvm. i Ørestad Nord
I dag holder PensionDanmark rejsegilde på byggeriet Metropolen, der ligger på Njalsgade 72. Her vil 12.000 kvm. med kontorer, butikker, café og kælder stå klar i august 2010.

Metropolen ligger på hjørnet af Njalsgade og Ørestads Boulevard i København – midt i mellem Københavns Universitet Amager og metrostationen Islands Brygge.

De i alt 12.000 kvm. er fordelt på otte etager samt parkeringskælder. Bygningen vil huse kontorfaciliteter samt butikker og en café i stueplan. Her vil lejerne og bydelens øvrige borgere kunne nyde godt af udendørsservering i sommerperioden.

Metropolen vil give mere liv i Ørestad Nord. Med byggeriet af Metropolen er Ørestad Nord næsten fuldt udbygget, og overborgmester Frank Jensen glæder sig på bydelens vegne.

- Det er glædeligt, at bydelen får et spændende hus som Metropolen, der både huser kontorer, butikker og café. Det vil være med til at skabe endnu mere liv på grænsen mellem Islands Brygge og Ørestad, siger overborgmester Frank Jensen (S).

Ejendommen Metropolen er den anden ejendom, PensionDanmark investerer i i Ørestaden. PensionDanmark har tidligere opført boligbebyggelsen Horisonten med 182 lejligheder, som alle er solgt eller udlejet.

- PensionDanmarks investeringer i ejendomme skal først og fremmest sikre et godt afkast, så vores medlemmer kan få en god pension. Det gør vi bedst ved at investere i ejendomme af høj kvalitet og med god beliggenhed, siger adm. direktør Torben Möger Pedersen, PensionDanmark.

PensionDanmark har investeret i alt godt 5,6 mia. kr. i danske ejendomme. Det er forventningen, at der de kommende år vil ske merinvesteringer i ejendomme i størrelsesordenen 0,5-1,0 mia. kr. årligt.

http://www.byoghavn.dk/da-DK/Presse/Nyheder/2010/~/media/News/metropolen1.ashx?w=480&h=320&as=1

http://www.byoghavn.dk/da-DK/Presse/Nyheder/2010/~/media/News/metropolen2.ashx?w=480&h=444&as=1

http://www.byoghavn.dk/da-DK/Presse/Nyheder/2010/~/media/News/metropolen2/metropolen3.ashx?w=480&h=319&as=1

http://www.byoghavn.dk/da-DK/Presse/Nyheder/2010/~/media/News/metropolen2/metropolen3/metropolen4.ashx?w=480&h=320&as=1

http://www.byoghavn.dk/da-DK/Presse/Nyheder/2010/~/media/News/metropolen2/metropolen3/metropolen4/metropolen5.ashx?w=480&h=320&as=1

Source: http://www.byoghavn.dk/da-DK/Presse/Nyheder/2010/nyhed.aspx?newsid={FB0304F5-F9AF-49DE-92BC-4B61257668C3} + http://magasinetejendom.nekat.pil.dk/no_cache/news/singleview/article/pension-danmark-holder-rejsegilde-paa-12000-kvm-i-oerestad-nord.html

TMG

January 28th, 2010, 12:47 PM

Metropolen looks OK, but I can't help thinking about the highrise project "Porten til Ørestad", that was never realized.

Jarmo K

January 29th, 2010, 03:26 PM

... but I can't help thinking about the highrise project "Porten til Ørestad", that was never realized.

googling the thing did not help - any info on it? pics? authors? time?

EDK_DK

January 29th, 2010, 03:45 PM

googling the thing did not help - any info on it? pics? authors? time?

All new Danish Highrises (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=137340) (page 1) > Cancelled Project...

Bad renderings

Köbtke

February 2nd, 2010, 12:31 PM

Source: http://www.byoghavn.dk/da-DK/Presse/Nyheder/2010/nyhed.aspx?newsid={FB0304F5-F9AF-49DE-92BC-4B61257668C3} + http://magasinetejendom.nekat.pil.dk/no_cache/news/singleview/article/pension-danmark-holder-rejsegilde-paa-12000-kvm-i-oerestad-nord.html

I think this is going to be great for the area. It's prettyu barren at the moment, and for students there is virtually nothing at all to do and no reason to hang around once lectures are finished.

So with a café, some shops and so forth it should improve slightly. And hopefully Batteriet can come to fruition like envisioned by BIG and the area should soon start to look more dense and interesting. Crossing my fingers.

ramblersen

February 2nd, 2010, 01:06 PM

http://www.fri.dk/bolig/fremtidssikret-udsigt-paa-kanten-af-byen#

Lars_HH

February 8th, 2010, 09:04 PM

Slagelse-bagmand klar med investorer til ny multiarena

Afklaring på vej om ny multiarena i København. Iværksætteren Brian Mollerup står klar med trecifrede millionbeløb til projektet
AF JAKOB MARTINI

AF JAKOB MARTINI

Den økonomiske ballade om Københavns nye multiarena kan afsluttes med det samme, så entreprenørmaskinerne kan komme i gang med at rejse milliardbyggeriet i Ørestad.

Sådan lyder meldingen fra iværksætteren Brian Mollerup, der står klar med investorer, der vil skyde trecifrede millionbeløb i arenaen med plads til ca. 15.000 mennesker.

»Det er helt klart muligt at løfte den finansielle opgave, hvis alle parterne vil det lige meget,« siger Brian Mollerup.

Brian Mollerup har tidligere stået bag bl.a. etableringen af Slagelse Håndbold og var selv repræsentant for konsortiet Copenhagen Multiarena, der var med helt fremme ved opløbsstrækningen, da Københavns Kommune i februar 2009 i stedet valgte den internationale sports- og underholdningsgigant AEG Facilities. AEG har flere gange bedt om udskydelse, da de ikke kan finde investorer til at rejse de ca. 1,2 mia. kr., som multiarenaen i København koster. Men det er bare et spørgsmål om at samle alle parter, lyder det fra Brian Mollerup, der gerne vil kaste sine kræfter ind i AEG’s projekt.

»Jeg har talt med kommunen, og jeg har talt med AEG. Jeg ved endnu ikke, hvor det ender, men der findes forskellige finansielle løsninger, og jeg kan spille ind med et betydeligt bidrag i den forbindelse,« siger Brian Mollerup.

Milliardinvestorer

Copenhagen Multiarena havde ifølge Brian Mollerup investorer i ryggen, der tilsammen ville lægge næsten en mia. kr. til et projekt, der var betydeligt større med plads til 40.000 mennesker.

»Det beløb er selvfølgelig blevet mindre i forhold til det nye projekt med en mindre arena. Men flere af de finansielle spillere er også klar på at gå med i et nyt set-up (AEG-projektet, red.),« siger Brian Mollerup, der ikke vil nævne navnene på de potentielle investorer.

Københavns Kommune har selv garanteret et rentefrit lån på 200 mio. kr. til multiarenaen. Kulturforvaltningen har i løbet af januar haft møder med en række forskellige parter for at afklare projektets fremtid inden 1. februar. Men forvaltningen er fortsat tavs og vil hverken kommentere, om Brian Mollerup er løsningen på AEG’s investormangel, eller om man overvejer et helt nyt udbud med en mindre og billigere multiarena.

»Københavns Kommune har ingen kommentarer, så længe der føres sonderinger og forhandlinger,« siger Erik Bjørn Møller, pressechef i kulturforvaltningen.

Ingen kommentarer

Heller ikke hos AEG eller udviklingsselskabet By og Havn, vil man kommentere Brian Mollerups rolle i multiarenaen, men pressechef Pernille Garde Abildgaard i By og Havn oplyser, at man nærmer sig en afklaring.

»Det er vores fornemmelse, at projektet er inde i en positiv gænge. Der foregår i øjeblikket sonderinger, som vi ikke kan komme nærmere ind på,« siger hun.

Brian Mollerup undrer sig over, at der ikke er mere skred i tingene.

»Vi står i en situation, hvor vi samfundsmæssigt har brug for at få noget byggeri i gang, og hvor København har brug for en multiarena. Når vi så har investorerne inden for rækkevidde, er det helt skævt, hvis vi ikke sætter projektet i gang med det samme,« siger Brian Mollerup.

jakob.martini@borsen.dk

ramblersen

February 9th, 2010, 07:32 AM

I almost start to like that Mollerup character. It sounds all too good to be true - and it probably isn't. But still...!

Never give up

February 9th, 2010, 09:15 AM

Bella hotel´s webcam seems to be frozen fast, so I will help with a little photo update taken yesterday from the relatively warm metro.
You can now begin to see how the facade will look like.

http://i46.************/2j5lwlf.jpg

Pisling

February 9th, 2010, 09:44 AM

^^ Great, thanks!

nicolajb

February 9th, 2010, 09:54 AM

thx!

I think it's gonna be one of the coolest buildings in Ørestad when it's done!
Then Bella Center just need a facelift - damn it's just SO ugly

staff

February 9th, 2010, 10:47 AM

Great update!

Xed

February 9th, 2010, 10:53 AM

Thanks, Never give up. If anybody gets around, I'd like to see more updates from Ørestaden as well as the rest of Cph and Denmark. I'm not getting out much myself...

Lars_HH

February 9th, 2010, 12:54 PM

Sponsor efterlyser storarena
Jesper Kasi Nielsen vil have en storarena i København med plads til 15.000 tilskuere.

Af Søren Sorgenfri

Visionerne er der, holdet er under opbygning, nu er det eneste der mangler bare en arena.

Jesper »Kasi« Nielsen vil have en storarena i København som hjemmebane for sit storstilede håndbold projekt - AG Håndbold der fra næste sæson overtager herredelen i FCK Håndbold og bliver til AG København. Rigmanden opfordrer Københavns Kommune til at genoverveje de arena-planer, der tidligere har spøgt i hovedstaden.

»Giv mig en arena med plads til 15.000 tilskuere. Så skal jeg nok fylde den,« siger Jesper Nielsen til Berlingske.

»Den kan bygges hvor som helst i hovedstadsområdet, bare den bliver bygget. Det kan for den sags skyld være i Ørestaden ,« siger Jesper Nielsen.

Når AG Håndbold bliver til AG København skal holdet sandsynligvis spille størsteparten af sine kampe i Brøndby-hallen.

Resten af kampene skal formentlig afvikles på FCK's nuværende hjemmebane, som er Frederiksberg Hallen.

»Det er ikke fordi Brøndbyhallen ligger i Brøndby, at vi vil spille der.

Det er ganske enkelt fordi, der ikke er andre muligheder i Storkøbenhavn,« siger Jesper Nielsen.

Rammerne skal passe

»Vi har ambitioner om, at skabe et af verdens stærkeste klubhold, så skal vi også have nogle rammer, der passer til,« siger Jesper Nielsen.

Det er ikke nye tanker i hovedstadsområdet.

FC København og bestyrelsesformand Flemming Østergaard har tidligere arbejdet med tilsvarende planer som nu er lagt på is.

Jesper Nielsen er ikke i tvivl om at AG København på sigt vil kunne fylde en arena af den størrelse.

»Jeg har erfaringer med fra Rhein Neckar Löwen ( her er Jesper Nielsen, bestyrelsesformand, red.) med base i byen Mannheim.

På under tre år har man her opbygget tilskuergennemsnit på 10-11.000 i en klub, der ikke har vundet noget endnu,« siger Jesper Nielsen.

»Mannheim er trods alt bare en by med bare omkring 350.000 indbyggere og ligger i konkurrence med fodboldklubberne Frankfurt, Hoffenheim og Karlsruhe om publikum,« siger han.

»Danmark er verdens mest håndboldglade nation.

Se bare på TV2 seertal fra EM, de taler jo for sig selv.

Danskere er sindssyge med håndbold, og hvis man tilbyder det rigtige produkt og en god oplevelse i forbindelse med kampene og et hold der kan spille med helt fremme i Champions League, så skal vi nok få vakt en stærk håndboldinteresse i Københavnsområdet.

ssf@sporten.dk

»Giv mig en arena med plads til 15.000 tilskuere.

Så skal jeg nok fylde den JESPER KASI NIELSEN.

mlm

February 9th, 2010, 05:13 PM

cphdude

February 10th, 2010, 05:34 PM

So AEG wants to build, Brian Mollerup and friends wants to chip in, Kasi Jersper wants the same and Københavns Kommune already adds 1/5th (or /6th) with their 200 million.

Why on earth aren't they already building? :ohno:

I personally have a feeling that AEG wants a lot of investers and public money and arent really ready to hand over control or pay back the money in a normal investmentframe.

As for Kasis vesion, great, but Ill see it before Ill believe it. Right now they cant even fill out Frederiksberg Hallen on a regular basis, as I understand it. And the people with the money arent just gonna build this thing on his promises of what he can do. Especially after Brøndby....Having said that, there is clearly an untapped marked and a true multiarena will have a lot of potential...Look at forum. They often have doubblebookings and shows and events that run for 3-4 days...

mlm

February 10th, 2010, 07:05 PM

^^ Of course there's a need when it comes to show, events, concerts and so. Where I see the big difficulty is with the "daily use" as in atleast one sports team that can fill the arena on a weekly basis. I just don't see that happening, atleast not in any Danish leagues (same goes for the Herning arena of course). I know a future european icehockey league could be on it's way, maybe the same is the case with men handball. That would probably be interesing for both arenas...but that's out somewhere in the future.

There was also a little article on tv2.dk yesterday, you can find it HERE (http://sporten.tv2.dk/article.php/id-28421753.html). I'm not really sure what money Frank Jensen is talking about, I couldn't imagine they'll help with more public money for the Ørestad Arena after the promissed 200 million loan. Could they maybe also be discussing an enlarged Parken Arena at the moment? Who knows, it all sounds a bit strange to me. Hope they'll announce something final soon...

knilaus

February 15th, 2010, 11:39 AM

nicolajb

February 15th, 2010, 11:44 AM

.... a lot of cladding has been placed on Bella Hotel over the last week and a lot of panels are still on the parking lot next to the construction site :-)

ramblersen

February 15th, 2010, 12:56 PM

By&Havn have announced a tender for the construction of a parking house (http://byoghavn.dk/Forretningsomraader/Projektudvikling/Udbudsbekendtgorelse+P-hus.aspx) for up to 750 cars on Edvard Thomsen's vej in Ørestad City.

Which one would that be and are there any renderings, I vaguely remember both a Christensen & Co and a HLA design though I'm not too up on car parking, is it any of those?

Never give up

February 15th, 2010, 02:37 PM

.... a lot of cladding has been placed on Bella Hotel over the last week and a lot of panels are still on the parking lot next to the construction site :-)

and the web cam appears to be working again. :banana:

http://www.bellahotel.dk/Webcam

and as regards the multi story parking, it may be this one which is referred to, as it is, as far as I know, the only one with an approved "lokalplan". Sited just south of Rambølls/SEBs building.

http://i45.************/116qaoo.jpg

knilaus

February 15th, 2010, 03:16 PM

Lars_HH

February 15th, 2010, 08:28 PM

Been waiting for these news for about 4 years now... :S

"IV.3.4) Frist for modtagelse af bud eller ansøgninger om deltagelse
Dato: 19/03/2010 (dd/mm/åååå) Tidspunkt: 13:00
IV.3.5) Frist for afsendelse af opfordringer til at afgive bud eller at deltage til udvalgte kandidater (hvis
kendt) (ved begrænset udbud og udbud efter forhandling samt konkurrencepræget dialog)
Dato: 16/04/2010 (dd/mm/åååå)"

Do this mean that they will start on the 1. may 2010?

Lars_HH

February 15th, 2010, 08:33 PM

Here is a link to plh: http://www.plharkitekter.dk/

You can see the parking house under projekter/infrastruktur/P-hus i Ørestad

ramblersen

February 15th, 2010, 08:44 PM

Here is a link to plh: http://www.plharkitekter.dk/

You can see the parking house under infrastruktur/P-hus i Ørestad

Thanks:)

Never give up

February 16th, 2010, 01:34 PM

Renderings from the new school beside the "Gymnasium" in Ørestad.
To be completed in 2011 they say. Better get a move on! Looks cool with that sculptural facade.

http://i49.************/16ljiqh.jpg

http://www.orestad.dk/Orestad/Indhold/Skoler/Skolen%20i%20City.aspx

LoveCPH

February 16th, 2010, 05:56 PM

2011? That's almost in 2 minutes. ;)

Lars_HH

February 16th, 2010, 08:27 PM

Yep, it's completely unrealistic for a public project, I say medio 2012.

Kipple

February 16th, 2010, 11:39 PM

"IV.3.4) Frist for modtagelse af bud eller ansøgninger om deltagelse
Dato: 19/03/2010 (dd/mm/åååå) Tidspunkt: 13:00
IV.3.5) Frist for afsendelse af opfordringer til at afgive bud eller at deltage til udvalgte kandidater (hvis
kendt) (ved begrænset udbud og udbud efter forhandling samt konkurrencepræget dialog)
Dato: 16/04/2010 (dd/mm/åååå)"

Do this mean that they will start on the 1. may 2010?

The date 16th of april is the last day to make a bid on the limited tendering procedure (begrænset udbud). Then the selection of the best bid happens. That part of the procedure could take some time depending on the scope of the bids.

Earlier By&Havn announced the finishing time of the p-garage to be late 2011. I guess that can still be achieved with a building period of 18 months even though they do not commence construction till june.

--moebius--

February 17th, 2010, 10:06 AM

nicolajb

February 17th, 2010, 10:23 AM

I can inform you that 100 new, fully grown trees will be planted in the City park within the next couple of weeks!

http://www.m.dk/sitecore/content/metro-danish/Nyheder/Nyheder/2010/Faa+et+trae+med+hjem.aspx

They will also plant trees in the pocket park between V-Huset and Porthuset soon i think.... they started working there again 2 days ago....
Wonder if trees there also will come from that area

--moebius--

February 17th, 2010, 10:49 AM

They will also plant trees in the pocket park between V-Huset and Porthuset soon i think.... they started working there again 2 days ago....
Wonder if trees there also will come from that area

They wont. The pocket parks between v-huset and Porthuset are part of a different project that has been in the works for some time now. The trees in the park is a very recent project not more than a month or so old.

I can, however, not say with absolute certainty that there will not be planted any fully grown trees in the pocket parks as well, given the large quantity available. But the majority will be planted in the City park :)

Kipple

February 17th, 2010, 02:25 PM

But the majority will be planted in the City park :)

That will be AMAZING !!!! :banana:

u_neek

February 17th, 2010, 03:17 PM

I can inform you that 100 new, fully grown trees will be planted in the City park within the next couple of weeks!

http://www.m.dk/sitecore/content/metro-danish/Nyheder/Nyheder/2010/Faa+et+trae+med+hjem.aspx
Awesome. The park still looks very empty so this will definitely help quite a bit.

knilaus

February 17th, 2010, 03:47 PM

Never give up

February 17th, 2010, 04:52 PM

Does anyone know why they did not include a little lake in the City park when they were planning it?
It should be easy in Ørestad. The water table is so high you only have to dig a ½m deep hole and it is, vupti, filled with water.
Maybe a few swans or ducks would in, giving more life in the area.

http://i45.************/2h579ya.jpg

--moebius--

February 17th, 2010, 06:55 PM

That's great news. However, the story linked to in your post says that all the redundant trees have been given to the Nørrebro borough council. How is it related to Ørestad City Park if I may ask?

Because we asked them for some trees and they said "sure, no problem" :) Just spoke with the guy who is going to make the delivery, and he is having a meeting next week with a landscape planner concerning where to put the threes in the park. So I guess they will start moving the trees late next week.

The reason why I linked to the particular site, is because there is nothing online or in print about the Ørestad deal as of yet. It was just to give people a general idea about the project.

ramblersen

February 17th, 2010, 08:23 PM

Because we asked them for some trees and they said "sure, no problem" :) Just spoke with the guy who is going to make the delivery, and he is having a meeting next week with a landscape planner concerning where to put the threes in the park. So I guess they will start moving the trees late next week.

The reason why I linked to the particular site, is because there is nothing online or in print about the Ørestad deal as of yet. It was just to give people a general idea about the project.

Really good to hear that they have reinvented this way of reusing trees and speeding nature - and great that you guys have secured a fair share for Ørestad! They did it 250 years ago when trees from Kongens Nytorv were moved to Østre Allé to make room for more drilling soldiers on the square so it is really dumb they stopped using that approach somewhere along the way.

Never give up

February 17th, 2010, 09:55 PM

Details of the new P-hus in Ørestad City.

http://www.byoghavn.dk/da-DK/Presse/Nyheder/2010/nyhed.aspx?newsid={CE03DB7B-91CF-4737-996E-011F68AF979E}

knilaus

February 18th, 2010, 12:19 PM

knilaus

February 18th, 2010, 12:20 PM

--moebius--

February 18th, 2010, 04:15 PM

That's brilliant - thanks for taking that initiative. I had the exact same thought when I read that they had given all the trees to Nørrebro. I assume you're in some capacity that means you're entitled to permit digging in the park :-)

I personally did not take the initiative, but I know some people that know some people that did, and they are fully entitled to dig in the park as well :)

I'm just the messenger

Vildana

February 20th, 2010, 05:28 PM

What do you guys think of the new residential and mosque complex, which was designed by Bjarke Ingles .Which is going to be built on Amager .

Pisling

February 21st, 2010, 01:25 PM

^^ I think it's really nice. More opinions here (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=415393&page=218)...

Xed

February 24th, 2010, 01:05 PM

Construction of this building in Ørestad Syd is expected to start this summer:

http://www.orestad.dk/da-DK/NyhederOgPresse/Nyhedsbreve/2010/~/media/Orestad/Images/orestad%20Syd/familieboliger1.ashx?w=480&h=366&as=1

http://www.orestad.dk/da-DK/NyhederOgPresse/Nyhedsbreve/2010/~/media/Orestad/Images/orestad%20Syd/familieboliger3.ashx?w=480&h=299&as=1

http://www.orestad.dk/da-DK/NyhederOgPresse/Nyhedsbreve/2010/nyhed.aspx?newsid={1F1EA88A-5137-4E81-B03E-B91C791CA5CA}

ØlandDK

February 24th, 2010, 04:00 PM

Where is it located?

Pisling

February 24th, 2010, 05:37 PM

^^ It will be located on Robert Jacobsens Vej 75 in Ørestad Syd – not far from Vestamager Metrostation. There's also a bit more info in this (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=48893187&postcount=3240) post by Lars_HH.

Kampflamm

February 24th, 2010, 06:06 PM

Looks a bit like a commieblock.

Xed

February 24th, 2010, 06:16 PM

^^

I like it. Actually, I like most of the buildings in Ørestad, but I am not so happy with the (lack of) city planning.

Kipple

February 25th, 2010, 10:12 PM

As the irish would put it: FECK!!!! :cry:

http://www.berlingske.dk/.../koebenhavn-opgiver-multiarena (http://www.berlingske.dk/koebenhavn/koebenhavn-opgiver-multiarena)

ØlandDK

February 25th, 2010, 10:25 PM

pfff...same ol' story :ohno:

Kipple

February 25th, 2010, 10:35 PM

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_bHGWSAcjRSk/S4bsUfp2gPI/AAAAAAAAAF8/xRPvZMPBTC8/s800/DSC04518.JPG

Kipple

February 25th, 2010, 10:43 PM

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_bHGWSAcjRSk/S4bppzdKjXI/AAAAAAAAAFE/8JddBA2VHYU/s1024/P230210_16.080001.JPG

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_bHGWSAcjRSk/S4bpsMizs8I/AAAAAAAAAFM/V52W8jDuiFs/s800/P230210_16.090001.JPG

The big letters consist of small dots. Each of the dots have letters inside them (though these cant be seen on the photo).

The cladding looks quite special. But i dont think the contrast between the letters and the concrete works well. The letters blends in with the colour of the concrete.

Kipple

February 25th, 2010, 10:46 PM

A very nice appearence from inside the courtyard:

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_bHGWSAcjRSk/S4br4ob4McI/AAAAAAAAAFg/9NSZNQ01xXQ/s800/P230210_16.340001.JPG

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_bHGWSAcjRSk/S4br5qGIcdI/AAAAAAAAAFk/ncAO80Cn7Zs/s1024/P230210_16.350001.JPG

Kipple

February 25th, 2010, 10:49 PM

The front is finished. Great to see the canal once again. :)

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_bHGWSAcjRSk/S4br-qn5r3I/AAAAAAAAAFo/ZTMsDAY71fw/s1024/P230210_16.290001.JPG

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_bHGWSAcjRSk/S4br_cP3E2I/AAAAAAAAAFs/UPYenJ-RnMM/s1024/P230210_16.310001.JPG

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_bHGWSAcjRSk/S4bsEJOgVJI/AAAAAAAAAF0/zqXEQ7AcYgo/s800/P160210_16.020002.JPG

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_bHGWSAcjRSk/S4bsARwaFuI/AAAAAAAAAFw/MQv9J0stiJ0/s1024/P230210_16.330001.JPG

dancle

February 25th, 2010, 11:07 PM

Nice update Kipple!

Speaking of the, yet again, failed arena plans in Copenhagen, make me guess that the Swedes are probably laughing their butts off at the moment on the other side of the sund.:bash:

ØlandDK

February 25th, 2010, 11:08 PM

Thanks for the update. Is this how the facade of Metropol is going to look like? :dunno: :ohno:
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_bHGWSAcjRSk/S4bpsMizs8I/AAAAAAAAAFM/V52W8jDuiFs/s800/P230210_16.090001.JPG

Pisling

February 25th, 2010, 11:28 PM

^^ Yikes, I really don't hope it will end up looking like that. If it does, somebody has clearly messed up – especially if they aimed for this:

http://magasinetejendom.dk/uploads/pics/Metropolen.arkitektgruppen.cfmoeller.pensiondanmark_01.JPG

BTW, thanks for the update, Kipple! :okay:

mlm

February 25th, 2010, 11:33 PM

^^ Looks like it since much of the glass is already in place, would be hard to paint anything behind it guess. If that's the case: How on earth can anyone approve a concrete facade like that?

Thanks for the update Kipple.

dancle

February 25th, 2010, 11:37 PM

^^ Seriously, I will kill myself if that is the case.. I never liked the project from the beginning, but now I'm getting scared - concrete hideousness:ohno:..

ØlandDK

February 25th, 2010, 11:48 PM

The facade looked like interesting in the rendering but that concrete facade seriously looks like "lort".

Pisling

February 25th, 2010, 11:52 PM

^^ According to this (http://arkitektgruppenodense.ziteman.com/archive/pdf/Metropolen_udlej22092009.pdf) little brochure, it's a "byggeri i absolut verdensklasse, tegnet af den international kendte arkitekt Anna Maria Indrigo...", so let's just keep our fingers crossed and hope for the best. I mean, concrete shit doesn't match with world class architecture.

ØlandDK

February 25th, 2010, 11:59 PM

Lars_HH

February 26th, 2010, 08:29 AM

http://www.berlingske.dk/koebenhavn/multiarena-er-missing-link-i-koebenhavn manden i denne artikel har nok ret.

Hvad sker der for Metropolen?

cphdude

February 26th, 2010, 10:41 AM

http://www.berlingske.dk/koebenhavn/multiarena-er-missing-link-i-koebenhavn manden i denne artikel har nok ret.

Hvad sker der for Metropolen?

This seems to be what noone will admidt too...

- Multiarenaer rundt om i verden har én ting til fælles: Der er på den ene eller anden måde offentligt finansieret. Det lader sig ikke gøre at bygge en multiarena uden et statsligt eller kommunalt engagement. Der er tale om så stor en finansiering, som det er svært at tjene rigtig mange penge på.

But I say lets move on. The politicians are clearly not interested and the next one who says we should have an arena and who represents any kind of power, should be publicly whipped on Nytorv...:)

Talls

February 26th, 2010, 12:22 PM

This seems to be what noone will admidt too...

But I say lets move on. The politicians are clearly not interested and the next one who says we should have an arena and who represents any kind of power, should be publicly whipped on Nytorv...:)

This is a thing that fucking pisses me off about this country. The lack of ambition from our dull dull dull dull politicians. If i was in politics I would aim to make the city a world class city, and get the things a city like that needs, such as multi arena. But can we expect that from The fat fucking "jyde" Frank "no life" Jensen? Noway.

Why on earth cant they find the fucking money to sponsor an arena like this, if they can do it in all other European capitals?? FUCK!

ramblersen

February 26th, 2010, 12:40 PM

This is a thing that fucking pisses me off about this country. The lack of ambition from our dull dull dull dull politicians. If i was in politics I would aim to make the city a world class city, and get the things a city like that needs, such as multi arena. But can we expect that from The fat fucking "jyde" Frank "no life" Jensen? Noway.

Why on earth cant they find the fucking money to sponsor an arena like this, if they can do it in all other European capitals?? FUCK!

Amen to that. Only I don't exactly see the point in bringing up his ethnicity, the world is full of "jyder" who has done good to Copenhagen and natives who have done the opposite. I don't even see the point in blaming him (though I certainly don't like him at all and find him to be the epidemy of a vivionless politician, though I will love to be proven wrong there), this problem goes back a lot further than he does and it involves the Government's relationship to Copenhagen even more than that of the local politician's. Somebody need to go on a study trip to Herning or Malm¨, that would be much more relevant than all the exotic and expensive trips they go on all the time for no reason at all.

EDIT: Or wait, maybe you are right and it IS a jysk conspiracy...that would explain C. F. Møller's terrible new design for Metropolen...maybe they are all out to destroy our sity!:(

Talls

February 26th, 2010, 12:47 PM

Amen to that. Only I don't exactly see the point in bringing his ethnicity up, the world is full of "jyder" who has done good to Copenhagen and natives who has done the opposite. I don't even see the point in blaming him (though I certainly don't like him at all and find him to be the epidimy of a vivionless politician though I will love to be proven wrong there"), this problem goes back a lot further than he does and it involves the Government's relationship to Copenhagen even more that the local politician's. Somebody need to go on a study trip to Herning or Malm¨, that would be much more relevant than all the exotic and expensive trips they go on all the time for no reason at all.

EDIT: Or wait, maybe you are right and it IS a jysk conspiracy...that would explain C. F. Møller's terrible new design for Metropolen...maybe they are all out to destroy our sity!:(

Yeah I realised after writing it that him being a Jyde didnt rly have anything to do with the topic :P I appologise to any people who might have felt offended. But as a person I hate him deeply for being such an anti development person, or how you can explain what hes doing (or not doing for the city).

Når alt kommer til alt er det ham der sidder med det sidste ord når noget skal vedtages i København, og dermed hans ansvar at der ikke bliver fundet nogen penge til den multiarena. Jeg havde virkelig set frem til den, både pga udseendet, størrelsen, og det løft den kunne give til byen. Øv :(

Hvis de nu beslutter sig for at prøve at finde pengene alligevel vil det uanset hvad kommer til at tage evigheder før der rent faktisk sker noget. KOM IGEN FRANK!

dancle

February 26th, 2010, 02:17 PM

[QUOTE=ramblersen;52550893] this problem goes back a lot further than he does and it involves the Government's relationship to Copenhagen even more than that of the local politician's

There you have it, that's the reason. I'm pretty sure if Venstre was the major party in Copenhagen, things would have been a lot easier..

Nagel

February 26th, 2010, 02:20 PM

Thanks for the update. Is this how the facade of Metropol is going to look like? :dunno: :ohno:
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_bHGWSAcjRSk/S4bpsMizs8I/AAAAAAAAAFM/V52W8jDuiFs/s800/P230210_16.090001.JPG

If indeed it'll end up looking like a concrete bunker it will become a graffiti magntet.

Pisling

February 26th, 2010, 02:41 PM

De unge og rige flytter til København

http://images.berlingske.dk/node-images/279/2/620x355-c/2279517---jpg
En undersøgelse viser, at der er flere beboere i alderen 27-40 i Københavns nye byudviklingsområder, som Ørestaden, end i hovedstaden generelt.

De nye boligområder indtages af resourcestærke og veluddannede unge. De vil køre i bil, og de har små børn.

Det er overvejende yngre med længere uddannelse og højere indkomst, der flytter til de nye boligkvarterer i København. Med sig har de en statistisk overrepræsentation af biler i forhold til andre af hovedstadens indbyggere.

Tendensen fremgår af nogle undersøgelser, By & Havn har lavet i samarbejde med blandt andre Dansk Statestik. By & Havn er et selskab, der udover at drive hovedstadens havn har til formål at udvikle forskellige områder af byen. Blandt dem er Ørestad, Amerika Plads og Sluseholmen, som undersøgelsen omfatter.

Flere små børn og færre kvinder
Undersøgelsen viser, at der er flere beboere i alderen 27-40 i Københavns nye byudviklingsområder end i hovedstaden generelt. Der er flere børn under fem år end i andre kvarterer.

Til gengæld færre børn i alderen fra fem til 18. Også kønsfordelingen er markant anderledes i Københavns nye kvarterer. I København som helhed er der 103 kvinder per 100 mænd, mens der kun er 89 kvinder pr. 100 mænd i Ørestad. Nogenlunde det samme billede tegner sig for Amerika Plads og Sluseholmen.

Materialet viser desuden, at antallet af beboere i områderne er støt stigende. I Ørestad bor der nu mere end 5.400 beboere. På Sluseholmen bor der omtrent 1.800 beboere, og på Amerika Plads lever tæt ved 800 beboere. De er ikke komme til de nye boligområder med paroler om bilerne ud af byen. 70 procent af beboerne i København generelt har ikke bil. I de tre nævnte områder er det 60 procent af beboerne, der har.

Source: http://www.berlingske.dk/koebenhavn/de-unge-og-rige-flytter-til-koebenhavn

cphdude

February 26th, 2010, 09:55 PM

This is a thing that fucking pisses me off about this country. The lack of ambition from our dull dull dull dull politicians. If i was in politics I would aim to make the city a world class city, and get the things a city like that needs, such as multi arena. But can we expect that from The fat fucking "jyde" Frank "no life" Jensen? Noway.

Why on earth cant they find the fucking money to sponsor an arena like this, if they can do it in all other European capitals?? FUCK!

Well, I get - and share - your frustrations, but it isnt a lack of ambition thats the problem. In fact, ambition and planing is one of the things we do best in this country. Every plan that goes forward, every new project, be it a park, building, square, or simple politics, needs to be world class. So we do have ambition. What we almost never have, is the balls to actually carry it through and live with the qonsequeses of that decicion. That is the main problem...Or as a Danish businessman once said, I have 1000 people who will give me advice, but noone who actually wants to make a decision...

We are a nation of planers. Of playing it safe and not risking anything. Boring is the new norm. And why the hell shoul we dare? Even if we win, the Danish system makes sure our gain is no grater that everyone elses...The gratest succes in this country, is to be as mediocer as eveyone else. And id you dare to make something of yourself, we will get you......!

Markowitch

February 26th, 2010, 10:17 PM

[QUOTE]

There you have it, that's the reason. I'm pretty sure if Venstre was the major party in Copenhagen, things would have been a lot easier..

Copenhagen is not ruled by majority. They have an exotic way of dividing power in Copenhagen, that does not resemble parlamentarism. This is one of the reasons Ritt Bjeregaard decided to leave.

Pisling

February 27th, 2010, 12:45 PM

I wrote to Agent X at CPHX.dk and asked about the hideous concrete facade on Metropolen. Read the agent's reply here: http://www.cphx.dk/?#/396508/

So, I guess the facade will look better when it's finished?... :dunno:

Kipple: Unfortunately some dude named Peter Jensen has been credited your photo by mistake. I don't know why, but I'm really sorry for that. Hope it's OK.

mlm

February 27th, 2010, 02:54 PM

^^ That's a stange answer...doesn't really say much.

Pisling

February 27th, 2010, 03:00 PM

^^ Yes, the answer is a bit tricky. But I'll stick to "Skal den se sådan ud? Nej. Ikke på overfladen i hvert fald." and hope the facade will end up looking splendid.

mlm

February 27th, 2010, 03:10 PM

^^ Yeah, lets hope that's what she means. :)

Nagel

February 27th, 2010, 04:18 PM

^^ Thanks for the info Pisling. I'm surprised that you got such a promt answer from agentX. That section of cphx.dk otherwise seems rather dead.

LoveCPH

February 27th, 2010, 07:44 PM

:lol: Let's pimp it.

TMG

February 28th, 2010, 08:01 AM

The facade on Metropolen looks like a very cheap solution - hope it gets better.

I'm also surprised regarding AgangtX - I have sendt to questions to them for over half a year ago, and I havn't heard anything.

Talls

February 28th, 2010, 08:40 PM

Well, I get - and share - your frustrations, but it isnt a lack of ambition thats the problem. In fact, ambition and planing is one of the things we do best in this country. Every plan that goes forward, every new project, be it a park, building, square, or simple politics, needs to be world class. So we do have ambition. What we almost never have, is the balls to actually carry it through and live with the qonsequeses of that decicion. That is the main problem...Or as a Danish businessman once said, I have 1000 people who will give me advice, but noone who actually wants to make a decision...

We are a nation of planers. Of playing it safe and not risking anything. Boring is the new norm. And why the hell shoul we dare? Even if we win, the Danish system makes sure our gain is no grater that everyone elses...The gratest succes in this country, is to be as mediocer as eveyone else. And id you dare to make something of yourself, we will get you......!

Looking at our crappy capital I simply can't say I agree with what you're saying. This is one of the richest countries in the world and most of our capital still is fucking crap quality buildings with no special or unique about them. Sure we have Ørestad with a few almost-international looking buildings, but still: The majority of the city is made of old ugly crap buildings which makes u think you've just entered a timemashine and went 200 years back in time.!!!

I agree with the last part of what you said though. It's rly hard and no-rewarding to try and make it as a big shot in this country.

And the fact this multi arena isnt going to happen anyway is just sooooooo fucking typical danish! Also I'm so sick of looking at buildings made out of brick :D It makes me want to throw up!

moveteam

March 1st, 2010, 08:25 AM

Looking at our crappy capital I simply can't say I agree with what you're saying. This is one of the richest countries in the world and most of our capital still is fucking crap quality buildings with no special or unique about them.
Oh stop already.. That's the case for almost all Europeans capitals/cities. But some world class skyscrapers in the Inner City wouldn't harm at all. Calling our capital crappy and ugly is just crazy..

First we should blame AEG (not Danish!) for not being able to afford the multiarena, *maybe* next we should blame KK for not providing one for the citizens and then we could blame the whole way the Danish system works..

Xed

March 1st, 2010, 09:05 AM

^^ I agree. Calling Copenhagen crappy and ugly is strange. Sure the city could use improvements here and around. And it could definately use some nice looking highrises (and for the existing ones to be renovated) in specific areas, but Copenhagen is nonetheless a very beautiful city. And it has a great atmosphere.

LoveCPH

March 1st, 2010, 10:29 AM

Amager sikres mod stormflod
Københavns Kommune udvider diget omkring Vestamager og bygger også et flere kilometer nyt dige i land for at beskytte bl.a. Ørestaden og motorvejen mod stigende vandstande.
http://www.berlingske.dk/danmark/amager-sikres-mod-stormflod

Pisling

March 1st, 2010, 12:01 PM

OK, here's a small photo update from Ørestad Syd, City and Nord. I know the quality is a bit crappy and all, but I was lazy and freezing my ass off, so I just took the photos from inside of my car :) Enjoy, folks...

8-tallet in Ørestad Syd. I think the facade looks a bit messy, but maybe it's too early to judge.

http://pisling.dk/SkyscraperCity/DSCN5931_1.jpg

http://pisling.dk/SkyscraperCity/DSCN5932_1.jpg

http://pisling.dk/SkyscraperCity/DSCN5934_1.jpg

http://pisling.dk/SkyscraperCity/DSCN5935_1.jpg

And a few close-ups of the facade.

http://pisling.dk/SkyscraperCity/DSCN5940_1.jpg

http://pisling.dk/SkyscraperCity/DSCN5938_1.jpg

http://pisling.dk/SkyscraperCity/DSCN5939_1.jpg

Stævnen next to 8-tallet. Still looking good...

http://pisling.dk/SkyscraperCity/DSCN5937_1.jpg

Rambøll, Crowne Plaza etc.

http://pisling.dk/SkyscraperCity/DSCN5941_1.jpg

The facade on Bella Hotel still amazes me. It's so cool!

http://pisling.dk/SkyscraperCity/DSCN5943_1.jpg

Bella Hotel is rising fast...

http://pisling.dk/SkyscraperCity/DSCN5945_1.jpg

http://pisling.dk/SkyscraperCity/DSCN5947_1.jpg

A few shots of Metropolen. They just HAVE to do something about the concrete – it can't be the final result. The window frames and fittings also looks kinda unfinished.

http://pisling.dk/SkyscraperCity/DSCN5949_1.jpg

http://pisling.dk/SkyscraperCity/DSCN5950_1.jpg

onetwothree

March 1st, 2010, 12:15 PM

Nice pics! Though I'm not a big fan of Ottetallet, it looks like a massive fortress or something. And does anyone know how the windows work on Metropolen, or are you not supposed to open them?

nicolajb

March 1st, 2010, 12:25 PM

A few shots of Metropolen. They just HAVE to do something about the concrete – it can't be the final result. The window frames and fittings also looks kinda unfinished.

if the plan was to do something with the concrete then it would be SO stupid to put up the glass now.... I don't think they will do anything.... it will stay UGLY

cphdude

March 1st, 2010, 07:42 PM

[QUOTE=dancle;52554545]

Copenhagen is not ruled by majority. They have an exotic way of dividing power in Copenhagen, that does not resemble parlamentarism. This is one of the reasons Ritt Bjeregaard decided to leave.

Does that meen she will be back when they change that...?

TMG

March 2nd, 2010, 05:50 PM

Thanks for the update Pisling.

8-tallet in my opinion is simply just to big and not a good project. Personally I wouldn't like to live in such a massive building with 700 apartments, but some of the residens will have a fantastic wiev. I think we are looking at the final result for Metropolen, but the windows doesn't seems finished at all. I like the letters at the glass, but they have to finish the windows before it will be acceptable.

nicolajb

March 2nd, 2010, 07:05 PM

acebone

March 3rd, 2010, 12:22 PM

Yesterday I participated in a meeting regarding the school. Construction will start on Monday the 8th.

TMG

March 3rd, 2010, 12:52 PM

:-)
I think 8-Tallet is very cool!
I will for sure check out the prices when they start renting/selling.

I heard that a cafe will open in 8-Tallet on may 1st....

and btw. it is "only" 500 appartments ;-)

Thanks for correcting me:-)

Sounds good with a café and hopefully other shops as well. Still I find the project too big. At Fyrholm, Sluseholmen, where I live, there are 200 apartments which is a good size. It is so small so you known a lot of the residents and still so large, so it doesn't get too personal. With 500 apartment I just think it is getting too big and upersonal, but I'm propably wrong and it is a question of taste.

Xed

March 3rd, 2010, 01:01 PM

^^ In general the architecture in Sluseholmen is close to ideal with the diversity in the facades and the way, that the buildings are located in relation to eachother - like in the medieval city. I would only wish for a little more diversity in height, especially the courage to build some relatively tall buildings. Other than that, Ørestaden could learn a lot from Sluseholmen.

nicolajb

March 3rd, 2010, 01:14 PM

Thanks for correcting me:-)

Sounds good with a café and hopefully other shops as well. Still I find the project too big. At Fyrholm, Sluseholmen, where I live, there are 200 apartments which is a good size. It is so small so you known a lot of the residents and still so large, so it doesn't get too personal. With 500 apartment I just think it is getting too big and upersonal, but I'm propably wrong and it is a question of taste.

I think you are right about the size. 500 appartments is really a lot. I'm not sure of course but it might feel like 2 buildings instead of one big because of the shape (2 yards).

but again 500 appartments is also quite a few appartments to sell/rent so I don't think it'll be too crowded in the next couple of years :-)

knilaus

March 3rd, 2010, 02:04 PM

TMG

March 3rd, 2010, 02:07 PM

Now that is another problem. I am glad, that I haven't invested in this building as well as other projects at the moment, but on the other hand bad times will again be replaced by good onces. It will be interesting to see, hvow the prices will behave at 8-tallet. At the Mountain-house they dropped the prices with up to 40 %, as far as I remember.

knilaus

March 3rd, 2010, 02:29 PM

ØlandDK

March 3rd, 2010, 02:43 PM

^^
Can you give a summary what's in that thread? Where will the pricelevel be? (It's a pretty long thread :) )

nicolajb

March 3rd, 2010, 03:06 PM

Could you possibly elaborate a bit on where you heard this information about the café and who will be behind it?

I was eating at Foodshop the other day and a mid-aged guy was talking to the owner. He said: "you know, I'm the guy that build this house and right now we are building 8-Tallet out in Ørestad Syd. [...] We are making a café in the building too in order to make it more attractive for people to move there - it will open 1st of May. [...] Half of the appartments will be ready 1/4 and the rest in september"

1/4..... guess we will see some prices soon.... :-)

ramblersen

March 3rd, 2010, 03:43 PM

I think you are right about the size. 500 appartments is really a lot. I'm not sure of course but it might feel like 2 buildings instead of one big because of the shape (2 yards).

Maybe it will feel broken down into even more than two units. I guess that the townhouses/apartments along the roof-top "mountain path" may also feel like a separate community. At least I think that is how it was intended. I rememer Ingels saying (in that promotional video that I'm sure that everybody has seen too many times for a link to make any sense) that it is intended more as a neighbourhood than an individual building or something like that. I also agree that the difference between this building and two perimeter blocks next to eachother is not that big. Furthermore, I think the passageway beneeth the "knot"/intersection will be instrumental in not making the building feel too much of a groundscraper eventhough I think this quality will come more out when, in tim, more of an urban environment develops around it. Too bad that it will probably take such a long time. I do agree that it appears extremely massive and fortress-like as it stands right now though and I would personally go for Sluseholmen any time.

But now that we are at 8-tallet, here's a chair which KIBISI - Ingels & Friend's new design practice - has designed specially for the project - to give it a faint taste of Arne Jacobsen's Gesamtkunst or something? The Tube Chair:

http://static.dezeen.com/uploads/2010/02/Tube-Chair-by-KiBiSi-2.jpg

http://www.dezeen.com/2010/02/18/tube-chair-by-kibisi-for-hay/

knilaus

March 3rd, 2010, 04:40 PM

knilaus

March 3rd, 2010, 04:41 PM

Lars_HH

March 6th, 2010, 07:51 AM

Ready for some good news!!?

København får sin multiarena
Københavns Kommune, By & Havn og Realdania vil sammen bygge en multiarena i Ørestad med plads til 15.000 tilskuere. De tre ejere udliciterer driften af arenaen, som skal stå klar om få år.

Af Jesper Dahl Caruso

København får alligevel en multiarena med plads til 15.000 tilskuere. Arenaen kommer til at ligge i Ørestad Syd. Den finansieres af kommunen i samarbejde med By & Havn og Realdania, mens selve driften af arenaen udliciteres.

Berlingske Tidende erfarer, at der har været afholdt tophemmelige møder mellem overborgmester Frank Jensen ( S), kultur-og fritidsborgmester Pia Allerslev ( V), By & Havns adm. dir., Jens Kramer Mikkelsen, og Realdanias adm. dir., Flemming Borreskov. Her har de tre aktører fundet frem til en finansiering af arenaen, som skal tiltrække internationale kulturoplevelser og sportsarrangementer i verdensklasse.

»Det er korrekt, at vi er tre spillere, der er blevet enige om, at vi vil gøre, hvad vi kan, for at hovedstaden får sin multiarena,« fortæller Frank Jensen.

Projekt kuldsejlet

Berlingske Tidende afslørede i sidste uge, at den internationale underholdningsgigant AEG var kuldsejlet med sine planer om at bygge en multiarena i Ørestad . Trods udsigten til et rente-og afdragsfrit lån på 200 mio. kr.

fra Københavns Kommune lykkedes det ikke for AEG at skaffe yderligere en milliard til byggeriet. Derfor har kommunen nu besluttet at trække sit lånetilbud tilbage.

Københavns Kommune, By & Havn og Realdania skal nu sammen skaffe de 1,2 mia.

kr., multiarenaen koster, men overborgmesteren vil ikke fortælle de nærmere detaljer i finansieringen. Price Waterhouse Cooper er sat til at lave en forretningsmodel, som skal være færdig allerede i denne måned.

I nær fremtid

Berlingske Tidende erfarer imidlertid, at der arbejdes efter en model, hvor kommunen konverterer sit lån på 200 mio. kr. til et indskud i det fælles ejerselskab. Realdania skyder et ukendt, men lignende millionbeløb ind, mens By & Havn stiller en attraktiv grund i Ørestad Syd til rådighed tæt på Metro, tog, motorvej og lufthavn.

Sammen vil de tre aktører låne resten af beløbet. Det er blandt andet renteudgifter til den fremmede kapital, en kommende driftherre skal dække via huslejen.

Overborgmesteren glæder sig over, at de tre aktører har kunnet finde sammen om at løfte opgaven midt under en finanskrise.

»Det er klart, at når der er en ejerkreds med de her tre investorer, så er multiarenaen rykket meget tættere på,« siger Frank Jensen.

Hvornår forventer du som overborgmester at sidde som tilskuer i multiarenaen til en international sportsbegivenhed? »Ha-ha. Det er svært at sige.

Min erfaring, fortæller mig, at man skal være forsigtig med at melde en dato ud. Store byggerier tager tid, men jeg håber at kunne sætte mig til rette i nær fremtid,« siger Frank Jensen.

Hverken By & Havn eller Realdania ønsker at kommentere Berlingske Tidendes oplysninger, før planerne er meldt offentligt ud.

car@berlingske.dk

Fakta: KAMPEN OM MULTIARENAEN

1999: Planer om en multiarena i Ørestad mellem Erhvervsministeriet og Idrætsfonden Danmark. Men planerne bliver droppet igen.

2000: Planer om en multiarena med plads til 15.000 tilskuere i Høje-Taastrup. Projektet ventes at koste 1,2 mia. kroner og skal rumme både biografcenter, to hoteller, sportsfaciliteter, restaurationer og et butikscenter.

2001: Parken Sport & Entertainment lancerer sine egne planer om en multihal med plads til cirka 8.000 tilskuere. Hallen skal ligge klos op ad Parken.

2003: Københavns Kommune henvender sig til daværende kulturminister Brian Mikkelsen ( K) for at få staten til at engagere sig i projektet om at bygge en multiarena i København. Regeringen afviser at yde statsstøtte.

2005: Københavns daværende overborgmester Lars Engberg ( S) beder kommunens økonomiudvalg om opbakning til at få lavet en multiarena ved Bella Centret.

2006: Planerne om en multiarena i Høje-Taastrup droppes.

2007: Man begynder byggeriet til Percy Nilssons arena-projekt i Malmø, som i dag er færdigbygget. Københavns daværende overborgmester Ritt Bjerregaard ( S) giver grønt lys til Flemming Østergaards gamle planer om at udvide Parken med en multihal med plads til 4.000-5.000 tilskuere.

2008: Københavns Kommune øremærker 200 millioner kroner til en multiarena i København. Parken Sport & Entertainment meddeler, at de ønsker at købe Bella Center for at bygge en multiarena. Brøndby IF meddeler, at man skal drive H. C. Andersen-arena-projektet ved Høje-Taastrup.

2009: AEG vinder EU-udbud om retten til at bygge multiarena i Ørestad .

Februar 2010: AEG meddeler Københavns Kommune, at de ikke kan finansiere byggeriet af multiarenaen.

Marts 2010: Parken dropper sin multihal efter dundrende underskud. Københavns Kommune annullerer sit lånetilbud til AEG og går sammen med By & Havn og Realdania om at bygge multiarenaen. car Her kommer den nye multiarena med plads til 15.000 tilskuere til at ligge.

Multiarenaen.

knilaus

March 6th, 2010, 09:53 AM

Lars_HH

March 6th, 2010, 10:04 AM

Yep it looks like Frankie Boy has done more good for Ørestad the last 60 days - than Ritt did in 4 years

mlm

March 6th, 2010, 10:19 AM

onetwothree

March 6th, 2010, 11:44 AM

Good news, but I'll believe it when I see it

Pisling

March 6th, 2010, 12:03 PM

Yeah, that's really good news! Thanks for sharing, Lars_HH! What about the design? Are they going to keep it? I don't find it particularly good, so a revised version would be nice.

http://images.berlingske.dk/node-images/306/2/620x355-c/2306741-arena.jpg

cphdude

March 6th, 2010, 12:15 PM

»Det er korrekt, at vi er tre spillere, der er blevet enige om, at vi vil gøre, hvad vi kan, for at hovedstaden får sin multiarena,« fortæller Frank Jensen.

Wht the hell does that mean? They havent been doing what all they could so far?

I too, am holding my breath on this one. I cant even count the number of times I have seen the headline "Københvn får sin multiarea" or something along those lines.

ramblersen

March 6th, 2010, 12:16 PM

^^ Now, I don't want to too negative since it looks like it could happen, but I wouldn't count on anything until they're actually building the thing, considering the history of it.

If KK throughs in their 200 million, and Realdania about the same, a rough calculation still show they'll need an additional 800 million if the price really is 1.2 billion. Is it easy to get such a loan/investment for a project where the future profit is far from guaranteed?

I'm not syaing it's impossible that it will happen, I just personally don't belive it until they're actually building it.

You don't include the land thrown into the bucket by By & Havn in your calculation. Also I'm not sure how you should convert the 200 mio. - when it is no longer a loan but a share in the ownership it may equal a larger amount since the venue is obviously going to be worth something while the loan considering the terms was basically money out in the air.

I do agree that a lot of things can still go wrong though. And I wish they would go for a more interesting design that would add more value to Ørestad now that it is the City and an architecture-oriented foundation which build it. Not that I think they will, just wishing. Still it is very positive news.

cphdude

March 6th, 2010, 12:19 PM

You don't include the land thrown into the bucket by By & Havn in your calculation. Also I'm not sure how you should convert the 200 mio. - when it is no longer a loan but a share in the ownership it may equal a larger amount since the venue is obviously going to be worth something while the loan considering the terms was basically money out in the air.

I do agree that a lot of things can still go wrong though. And I wish they would go for a more interesting design that would add more value to Ørestad now that it is the City and an architecture-oriented foundation which build it. Not that I think they will, just wishing. Still it is very positive news.

Warent the price also 1.2 bn, when Bella ws involved and they were planing on using a plot they owned? Though perhaps they wanted to get money for that one too...

mlm

March 6th, 2010, 12:50 PM

You don't include the land thrown into the bucket by By & Havn in your calculation. Also I'm not sure how you should convert the 200 mio. - when it is no longer a loan but a share in the ownership it may equal a larger amount since the venue is obviously going to be worth something while the loan considering the terms was basically money out in the air.

I do agree that a lot of things can still go wrong though. And I wish they would go for a more interesting design that would add more value to Ørestad now that it is the City and an architecture-oriented foundation which build it. Not that I think they will, just wishing. Still it is very positive news.So maybe it's 500 million instead of 800, it's really impossible to know. There still seems to be a long way though...

mlm

March 6th, 2010, 12:54 PM

Warent the price also 1.2 bn, when Bella ws involved and they were planing on using a plot they owned? Though perhaps they wanted to get money for that one too...Yes the price was close to that, maybe a bit less. Here's a bit more: Ingen multiarena ved Bella Center (http://tv2sport.dk/node/5114).

200 million from KK
50 million from Sport Event Danmark
900 from Bella themself.
=
1,15 billion

Nagel

March 6th, 2010, 05:40 PM

A few shots from today of Ørestaden's new concrete bunker Metropolen (sorry, taken with phone cam)

Seen from Ørestads Boulevard:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4027/4411358824_4c19c9ea61_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2703/4410590663_0b2e5720c9_b.jpg

Seen from Njalsgade:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4029/4411358178_33b8cc361f_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4049/4410591319_b5a99efa4e_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4016/4411359052_40cd4100be_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4070/4411359234_13671d9090_b.jpg

As already pointed out by several in here: Surely, the concrete surface is not going to be changed with all the glass that has been put up as "cladding". :ohno:

ØlandDK

March 6th, 2010, 06:31 PM

I heard that they'll from the roof tilt white paint between the glass and the concrete. :|

Fab 5

March 6th, 2010, 08:49 PM

I always get suspicious when the architect, in this case C. F. Møller, doesn't showcase the project on their website.

knilaus

March 6th, 2010, 11:59 PM

staff

March 7th, 2010, 12:18 AM

Any renders at all of this building?

ØlandDK

March 7th, 2010, 01:08 AM

Any renders at all of this building?
http://www.byggeri.dk/nyheder/view_news_UE.asp?id=23567&kategori=1

staff

March 7th, 2010, 02:13 AM

cheers!

KENTamar

March 7th, 2010, 08:17 PM

This development sort of puts the below statement by Talls in perspective. Perhaps people should give the new lord mayor the benefit of the doubt a bit longer than the first 60 days of his term.

Indeed.. can't agree with you more.... its unbelievable how slow they act.. especially compared to the neighbor malmø

moveteam

March 8th, 2010, 08:11 AM

Indeed.. can't agree with you more.... its unbelievable how slow they act.. especially compared to the neighbor malmø
Ehm, I think you disagree..

nicolajb

March 9th, 2010, 11:21 AM

from the royal golf center newsletter:

The starting signal has sounded towards the new clubhouse and the general contractor has been found. The construction company Brødrene A. & B. Andersen A/S, established in 1922, has been assigned to build our first class clubhouse.

Royal Golf Center has employed the recognized company Arpe & Kjeldsholm A/S as client advisor. The company is known by the group from former construction projects, such as Forum in Copenhagen.

The architect behind the Royal Club House is the creative and reputable architect company Dissing+Weitling and the company EKJ has been appointed as consulting engineer.

Recently the construction company Brødrene A. & B. Andersen A/S has been I charge of several other high quality building projects in Ørestad, such as; Neroport and Faiway House. As Project Manager Preben Christoffersen says: “It is excellent timing to move all of the work sheds directly from Fairway House to the other side of Center Boulevard”. Before rushing of to the next design meeting, Preben Christoffersen left enough time to promise, that the clubhouse will be of the first class quality that Royal Championship Course deserves.

At the moment the construction company Brødrene A. & B. Andersen A/S has started to arrange the building site and the first work sheds for the administration is already in place.

Lars_HH

March 9th, 2010, 12:35 PM

Good news:

U/C in 2010
Golf Clubhouse
Parking House Edv. Thomsens Vej
Public library
Public School
Hopefully the Multiarena

mlm

March 9th, 2010, 12:43 PM

^^ Do you really think the multiarena can go UC this year? Seems highly unlikely to me. With the latest press release (http://www3.kk.dk/Nyheder/2010/Marts/Pressemeddelese-Multiarena.aspx) it seems more like things are more or less starting over, and that financing is still far from being secured.

acebone

March 9th, 2010, 02:42 PM

Good news:

U/C in 2010
Golf Clubhouse
Parking House Edv. Thomsens Vej
Public library
Public School
Hopefully the Multiarena

....89 AAB flats Edvard Thomsens Vej
48 Lejerbo flats in Ørestad Syd
Perhaps 110 flats for elder people in Ørestad Syd
Extension of Ørestad Boulevard all the way to Amager Boulevard

knilaus

March 9th, 2010, 10:53 PM

Lars_HH

March 10th, 2010, 06:04 PM

From what I understand the AAB project with the 110 flats for the elderly is beyond approved and scheduled to go u/c after the summer, which means that it might well be ahead of the 48 Lejerbo flats mentioned in the above.

Oki, I think I might have mixed the two projects in Ørestad Syd together.

Where is the exact location of the new projects?

nicolajb

March 15th, 2010, 11:21 AM

some info about the café in 8-Tallet:
http://www.oravis.dk/oravis.dk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2366:ny-cafe-abner-i-orestad&catid=60:orestad-syd&Itemid=303

NFLineast

March 18th, 2010, 01:44 PM

http://www.berlingske.dk/koebenhavn/oproer-mod-90-meters-hoejhusplan-paa-noerrebro

New scraper proposed at Panum Instituttet. Neighboring residents in uproar (what a shock and surprise..); suggest moving the entire site to Ørestad.

Xed

March 18th, 2010, 02:19 PM

^^ Actually it would be nice, if they moved it to Ørestaden instead. I would rather have a high rise cluster there, than some high rises spread distantly over Cph. With 90 meters it exceeds the high limit in Ørestaden, though, doesn't it?

Köbtke

March 18th, 2010, 02:45 PM

Aren't the residents who oppose this forgetting there already i a 70-meter high-rise just across the street more or less? Rigshospitalet. Sure, it's probably not something to aim for in terms of style, but it's not like the ground hasn't already been broken in terms of high-rise buildings.

Also the current panum institut is so ugly, so if I lived there I would welcome an, hopefully, interesting new building on the site.

firewater

March 19th, 2010, 01:47 PM

The single most disturbing thing about the announcement of this highrise for KU is that all the material shown in the press illustrates the project as an extrusion of the whole site(!). Whoever made this drawing did so to stir up emotions. I think people are responding so poorly because the drawing sucks ass

btw I live in the area and wholeheartedly support the project, for as köbtke said, Panum is so brutal that almost anything would be an improvement

Xed

March 19th, 2010, 02:04 PM

^^ I agree. On the drawing below, it looks horrible, but I can't imagen, that they would actually build a 90 m high building with that shape:

http://images.berlingske.dk/node-images/351/2/620x355-c/2351564-hjhus-p-nrrebro.jpg

Köbtke

March 19th, 2010, 02:30 PM

I agree, it was probably - as someone also pointed out in the debate - a mistake to publish this before any proper proposals or bids had been formed. Firstly they would probably look a lot better than a huge brown box situated on the site and secondly it would give the residents something concrete and probably less frightening to make their minds up about.

I like people who just say "no, no, no" before even heaing or seeing what it actually is they say no to. It's the Copenhagen way.

moveteam

March 19th, 2010, 02:42 PM

It only shows the volume of the project obviously..

Köbtke

March 19th, 2010, 03:59 PM

It only shows the volume of the project obviously..

Obviously, but some people probably don't see what the box actually represent, but only see a big, ugly brown box taking up a lot of space.

Lars_HH

March 20th, 2010, 09:39 PM

http://bellahotel.dk/bc_files/bellahotel/hotel01.mpg

--moebius--

March 21st, 2010, 11:55 AM

http://www.berlingske.dk/danmark/jeg-ser-central-park-mig

Well, can't help thinking that there is some validity to the claim that Byoghavn is spending way too much time on e.g. Nordhavn.

Når Jens Kramer Mikkelsen lukker øjnene og drømmer, ser han Ørestad som Manhattan i New York. Indfaldsvejen til København er Central Park, og den kommende multiarena er Madison Square Garden. Bykongen har smidt borgmesterkæden, men styrer fortsat udviklingen af København.

Af Jesper Dahl Caruso, Mads Kastrup
Lørdag den 20. marts 2010, 22:30

Metroen skærer sig fra Kongens Nytorv til Ørestad City på præcis ti minutter. Berlingske Tidende ankommer derfor rettidigt til interviewet med tidligere overborgmester Jens Kramer Mikkelsen ved Rambølls nye hovedsæde på sydsiden af motorvejen.

På fortovet står en direktør for Rambøll. I den bidende kulde er han iført fornuftig lang frakke og læderhandsker, mens vi sammen spejder efter den tidligere bykonge. I Jens Kramer Mikkelsens tilfælde er der dog langtfra tale om, at han er kravlet ned fra den royale piedestal. Både lønnen og indflydelsen på landets hovedstad er steget siden dagene på Københavns Rådhus løb ud for seks år siden.

Vi kan se over på den byggegrund, hvor Københavns Kommune, By & Havn og Realdania vil rejse en multiarena med plads til 15.000 tilskuere. Når øjet vandrer videre over markerne, burde travle byggekraner være i gang med opførelse af verdensklasse*arkitektur af Daniel Libeskind og Steven Holl. Men finans- og byggekrisen har stort set sat alt i bero i Ørestad Syd.

Med ti minutters forsinkelse ankommer Jens Kramer Mikkelsen i sin sorte Folkevogn VW Touran 2,0 TDI og parkerer med hjulene oppe på cykelstien, da den eneste lovlige p-plads er på en mudret grund på den anden side af vejen. Han ifører sig sin forede By & Havn-vindjakke og giver hånd.

»Jeg skulle have taget Metroen,« konkluderer direktøren for By & Havn, som til dagligt residerer på en af Københavns dyreste adresser på Nordre Toldbod vis-a-vis Kongeporten ved Kastellet, Gefionspringvandet og Mærsks karakteristiske hovedsæde med de blå vinduer.

VI HAR SAT HINANDEN stævne på grænsen mellem Ørestad Syd og Ørestad City. Her vil den administrerende direktør for By & Havn forklare sine visioner for området og forsvare sig imod den kritik, der med jævne mellemrum popper op. Dels fra arkitekter og byplanlæggere, der finder Ørestad gold og menneskefjendsk, dels fra beboergrupper i den nye bydel, som frygter, at Ørestad vil sygne hen, hvis ikke By & Havn sætter yderligere skub i udviklingen.

Hans standardsvar til beboerne er, at ingen i Ørestad skal frygte at blive glemt:

»Vi er ikke et døgnflueselskab. Når vi om 100 år kigger tilbage, vil man sige, at vi gjorde det rigtige,« siger han, da vi har sat os ind i hans VW og trukket ud over cykelstiens kinesiske granitfliser på vej væk fra »Nordens bedste vejkryds« ved motorvejen til lufthavnen.

Vi passerer byggegrunden for den kommende multiarena, da Jens Kramer Mikkelsen første gang lufter sin begejstring for Manhattan, som på mange måder er forbilledet for hele Ørestad - fra IT-Universitetet og DR Byen i Ørestad Nord over højt præmieret boligbyggeri i Ørestad City til et nyt finanscentrum i Ørestad Syd.

»Jeg har et billede inde i hovedet af Madison Square Garden, som er en superarena, der ligger i et tæt bymiljø i New York. Det er sådan, jeg ser multiarenaen i Ørestad City,« forklarer han og styrer mod Stævnen og 8-tallet - de to eneste beboelsesejendomme, der ligger isoleret for enden af Ørestad Syd og grænser op til det fredede rekreative areal på Kalvebod Fælled.

BEBOERNE I STÆVNEN er mildt sagt utilfredse med den hastighed, infrastrukturen i Ørestad Syd skrider frem. De har købt dyre projektlejligheder i den tro, at deres børn kunne lege foran husene og gå i vuggestue og børnehave i nærområdet. Men kloakdækslerne løfter sig over asfalten, der mangler gadebelysning og grusbunker, jord og gravkøer er meget fremtrædende i »bybilledet«.

De føler sig ført bag lyset af Københavns Kommune og By & Havn. Ifølge lokalplanen skulle man færdiggøre infrastrukturen, inden beboerne flyttede ind. Nu er det omvendt; gadelygter, veje og grønne pladser kommer først i takt med udbygningen, som stort set er sat i stå på grund af krisen. Og hundredvis af beboere frygter, at bykongen og hans udviklingsselskab mentalt er flyttet et andet sted hen.

»Jeg kan godt få den tanke, at By & Havn nu har leget længe nok med den julegave, der hedder Ørestad Syd. Men nu har de lagt den fra sig, fordi der er kommet sjovere gaver under juletræet, for eksempel udbygningen af Marmormolen og Nordhavn. Vi er ikke længere interessante for Kramer og By & Havn. De har mentalt forladt området, og så sender de en gang imellem en lille mand ud at kigge, men der sker ikke særlig meget,« siger Peter Michael Vestlev, som flyttede til Stævnen for et år siden.

JENS KRAMER MIKKELSEN kan ikke få sin bil frem til Stævnen, fordi en overdimensioneret byggemaskine holder på tværs af vejen. Så for anden gang på et kvarter må han parkere ulovligt foran en vareelevator, hvor to bygningsarbejdere rynker brynene, mens de sidder og ryger cigaretter.

»Det er da klart, at folk i Ørestad ikke gider gå med jord under skoene i al evighed. Men man vil komme til at se ud på nogle jordbunker, og man vil i årene frem kunne se, at der bliver bygget på nabogrunden. Til gengæld vil man også have verdens bedste udsigt ud over grønne områder,« siger han og roser beboerne for deres entreprenørånd.

Vi parkerer ti minutter senere i p-huset under det prisbelønnede boligbyggeri VM-bjerget. I stueetagen er der åbnet en bager og café ved navn No. 55, hvor der serveres kaffe og gulerodskager i høj kvalitet. Det er en af de få butikker, som har taget kampen op mod mastodonten Field's, som ligger skråt overfor.

Landskabsarkitekten Jacob Kamp kalder indkøbscenteret for en »katastrofe«, fordi det kvæler alle tiltag til nærbutikker. For ham er Ørestad simpelthen forkert dimensioneret og minder om 1960ernes modernistiske byplanlægning, hvor skræmmeeksemplerne hedder Brøndby Strand, Gellerup Planen og Vollsmose.

Han har selv boet tre måneder i Ørestad, da hans lejlighed på Nørrebro var under ombygning. Og han var lykkelig for at flytte tilbage til bandekrig, grønthandlere, mennesker på gaden, skalaspring, mærkelige kringelkroge, cykler, biler og busser.

Jens Kramer Mikkelsen ser helt anderledes på den nye by. For ham har Field's aldrig været tænkt som en nærbutik. Den ligger i Ørestad som en satellit, som københavnere og sjællændere kan besøge. Når han rejser sig fra caféstolen og kigger ned ad gaden, ser han på længere sigt en moderne udgave af Gammel Kongevej på Frederiksberg.

»Der vil komme til at bo 25-30.000 mennesker i Ørestad. Men der bor kun 5.500 i dag. Så vores udfordring er at få forretninger til at slå sig ned i området allerede nu - ti år før de ellers ville være kommet. Jeg har nogle mentale billeder inde i hovedet, hvor jeg ser Gammel Kongevej herude i Ørestad. Med butikker og boliger på begge sider af vejen og lidt bredere fortov i den ene side, så der er plads til udendørs servering. Det kommer jo ikke på fem år,« siger han og vender igen tilbage til sin newyorker-vision.

»Man har den grønne kile ind i byen fra Køge Bugt Motorvejen. Det skal blive liggende. Der er luft og bebyggelse - jeg ser Central Park for mig. Det er jo fantastisk, at man har en grøn ø midt i New York, som har fået lov til at ligge der.«

En sammenligning som professor i byplanlægning Bent Flyvbjerg har svært ved at se:

»Daværende finansminister Henning Dyremose stod på Folketingets talerstol og solgte Ørestad på den måde - som Manhattan. Men man skal være en dygtig sælger for at male de billeder ind i hovedet på folk. Når jeg står og ser ud over Ørestad, så er det ikke lykkedes dem at skabe de billeder inde i hovedet på mig. Og jeg har været på Manhattan mange gange, og jeg ser ikke det samme, når jeg kigger ud over Ørestad.«

BY & HAVN er flyttet fra Ørestad til Nordre Toldbod, hvilket beboerne i Ørestad ser som et sikkert tegn på, at selskabet har tabt interessen for deres bydel. På det seneste har der da også været mere fokus på den nye FN-by på Marmormolen, som skal stå færdig om tre år, og den senere udvikling af Nordhavn ved Østerbro.

»Vi ligger mere centralt i Nordre Toldbod. Vi er ikke mentalt flyttet fra Ørestad. Man skal ikke overfortolke, at vi er flyttet ind til byen. Vi boede glimrende på Arne Jacobsens Allé 19 her i Ørestad, og der er ingen nedprioritering i at flytte,« pointerer Jens Kramer Mikkelsen.

Hvor beboerne anser udbygningen mod nord som en trussel, ser Kramer Mikkelsen det som et smart og naturligt træk for København. Det gælder om at have mange varer på hylderne, som han siger:

»Byudvikling går op og ned og skifter gear. Inden Ørestad er færdigudviklet, vil vi komme til at opleve flere ture op og flere ture ned. Det går langsommere frem i Ørestad, end jeg troede for to år siden, men det går hurtigere, end jeg forestillede mig for fem-ti år siden. Kranerne vokser jo ikke ind i himlen,« siger Jens Kramer Mikkelsen.

Turen slutter på Kongens Nytorv, hvor den begyndte. Jens Kramer Mikkelsen parkerer i taxavognbanen og sætter Berlingske Tidendes udsendte af. Han gasser op for sin sorte VW Touran og kører mod hovedkvarteret i Nordre Toldbod.

LoveCPH

March 21st, 2010, 12:17 PM

He sure lives in his own dreamworld

Lars_HH

March 21st, 2010, 12:39 PM

http://www.berlingske.dk/danmark/jeg-ser-central-park-mig

Well, can't help thinking that there is some validity to the claim that Byoghavn is spending way too much time on e.g. Nordhavn.

It is such a shame, but I think the problem is that all land in Ørestad has been sold as options, that haven't been called yet by the developers, so there is almost nothing left to sell. So By&Havn is in liquidity problems.

mlm

March 21st, 2010, 12:42 PM

^^ There's 3 long articles on the issue on Berlingske.dk (http://www.berlingske.dk/), should someone not have seen it.

Nagel

March 21st, 2010, 04:16 PM

^^ In one of the Berlingske articles there is a noteworthy and highly depressive remark from Christian Hartmann, chief of "projektafdelingen i ATP ejendomme" concerning the LM project (the two Holl towers).

»Hvis jeg kunne, ville jeg jo sige, at det er vores klare overbevisning, at det her hænger sammen, så nu går vi i gang. Men det kan jeg ikke. Det fordrer, at der er et tilstrækkeligt lejegrundlag. Og vi må erkende at markedet i øjeblikket er i knæ,«

Argh! So the LM project is rather dubious? When are we ever going to see some grand architecture in Cph? The same goes for the Liebeskind towers in Ørestad. Is it all just castles in the air?

Link to the article:

http://www.berlingske.dk/danmark/haandtrykket-og-den-halvfaerdige-stad

mlm

March 21st, 2010, 04:31 PM

Nagel

March 21st, 2010, 04:34 PM

Yes it must be the T-Towers or T-husene or whatever...

moveteam

March 21st, 2010, 09:05 PM

^^ Yes I noticed the remarks about the LM project too. Surely doesn't seem like they're close to construction start.

They also mention the Steven Holl as the architect of one of the projects in Ørestad, that must obviously be the T-Towers. I though they were cancelled for good and not just postponed?
I would only count on exact quotations. In one of the other articles, some journalist claimed that the construction of the LM Project was just around the corner..

mlm

March 21st, 2010, 09:28 PM

Markowitch

March 22nd, 2010, 12:41 AM

http://www.berlingske.dk/danmark/haandtrykket-og-den-halvfaerdige-stad

Quote from the article

Projektchefen giver en forklaring på den højtsvævende cykel- og gangbro i »The LM Project«.

»Det skyldes et landsplansdirektiv, der stiller krav om overholdelse af et stationsnærhedsprincip. Hvis man bygger erhvervsbyggeri af et bestemt omfang, skal det ligge inden for 600 meter af en jernbanestation,« siger Christian Hartmann.

Cykler man hen ad Langelinie, rundt om bassinet til nærmeste jernbanestation, som er Østerport, er der længere end 600 meter. Tager man imidlertid en elevator op og får en mere direkte linje hen over havnebassinet, holder man sig inden for de 600 meter til Nordhavn Station. Hvilket altså er nødvendigt. Ellers må der ikke stå et så stort kontortårn på Langelinies yderste spids. At broen skal ligge i 17. etages højde, skyldes »en fremtidssikret fri udsejling fra DFDS terminalen«.

HAHAHA this is so hilarious! :D

Peter999

March 22nd, 2010, 01:26 AM

"Fingerplan 2007 - Landsplandirektiv for hovedstadsområdets planlægning"

http://www.skovognatur.dk/NR/rdonlyres/168AEF1C-EE66-4FE9-95D3-92B5D4452BFD/0/9788772797793.pdf

Page 24:

"Ønsker kommunerne undtagelsesvist at lokalisere kontorbygninger o.lign. som er større end 1.500 etagemeter i de afgrænsede stationsnære områder i større gangafstand end 600 m fra stationerne, dvs. uden for kerneområdet, skal der redegøres for, hvordan kommunerne vil arbejde med supplerende virkemidler for at opnå en høj andel af rejsende med kollektiv transport"

Page 56:

"Stk. 5. I Københavns Kommune kan der i Nordhavnen etableres erhvervsbyggeri med mere end 1.500 etagemeter i det stationsnære område (1.000 meter fra Nordhavns Station), som indgår som første etape i principaftalen om Metrocity-ringen af 2. december 2005, samt i et område i umiddelbart tilknytning hertil, som indgår som en efterfølgende anden etape i principaftalen."

moveteam

March 22nd, 2010, 09:23 AM

^^ So a "chief of projektafdelingen i ATP ejendomme" who's building the thing, or atleast one of the two buildings, does not count to you?

In all the articles I've seen lately, there has been absolutely nothing exact about the two towers, only about the UN Building which does seem to start soon.
Of course it does, hence my ' (..) on exact quotations'
I believe the "chief of projektafdelingen", when he says the market situation is bad. However I don't believe in journalists claiming that Steven Holl is in Ørestad or that the 'LM Project' is about to start (given they don't provide a source)

mlm

March 22nd, 2010, 09:34 AM

^^ Ahhh, misunderstood you then. :)

ØlandDK

March 22nd, 2010, 09:14 PM

Related to the possible new arena:
http://politiken.dk/sport/article930251.ece

Talls

March 24th, 2010, 11:48 PM

Related to the possible new arena:
http://politiken.dk/sport/article930251.ece

Haha, I wanna see that happen before I believe it. No serious sports arrangement has ever taken place in this country :D Don't know why that should suddenly change :P

bongo-anders

March 26th, 2010, 12:45 AM

No only minor sports like football, Boxing and cycling.

cphdude

March 26th, 2010, 01:19 PM

Haha, I wanna see that happen before I believe it. No serious sports arrangement has ever taken place in this country :D Don't know why that should suddenly change :P

No only minor sports like football, Boxing and cycling.

Well, no, but we havent really had any facilities so far. Hopefully we will soon.

And its not like we havent hosted big arrengements and events, not to mention concerts and confrencess. So no doubt that we can do. It is afterall, mainly a logistical problem, and we tend to be able to solve those here, provided that we hire the right people...

moveteam

March 26th, 2010, 08:03 PM

UDVIKLINGSSELSKABET BY & HAVN I/S - REGNSKABSMEDDELELSE
Udviklingsselskabet By & Havn I/S har i 2009 haft et underskud før markedsværdiregulering af gæld på 496 mio. kr. mod et underskud på 348 mio. kr. i 2008. Resultatet er blandt andet påvirket af en nedskrivning af investeringsejendomme på i størrelsesordenen 600 mio. kr. på grund af de ændrede momsregler.

Ses der bort fra denne ændring, så har den fortsatte planlægning og udvikling af selskabets arealer (specielt i Nordhavnen og på Marmormolen) bragt en del projekter tættere på en realisering, hvilket isoleret set har indebåret en positiv værdiregulering af investeringsejendomme. Den samlede værdiregulering af investeringsejendomme udviste herefter et underskud på 67 mio. kr.

Det faldende renteniveau i 2009 har betydet, at den fast forrentede del af gælden og resultatet er påvirket af en urealiseret negativ markedsværdiregulering på 235 mio. kr. Værdireguleringen har ingen betydning for hverken tilbagebetalingstid eller pengestrøm, så længe lånene holdes til udløb.

Den primære drift har udvist et positivt resultat på omkring 150 mio. kr. inden for forretningsområderne udlejning, parkering og havnedrift. Årets resultat før skat inkl. værdiregulering af investeringsejendomme og markedsværdiregulering af gæld udviste herefter et samlet underskud på 732 mio. kr.

Der er et stort udviklingspotentiale inden for arealudvikling, og selskabets arealer har en unik beliggenhed i København, enten med en placering ved vandet eller, som i Ørestad, med en enestående moderne infrastruktur, beliggende ved store grønne områder. Men den generelle økonomiske udvikling i Danmark og på ejendomsmarkedet i særdeleshed har i 2009 påvirket og begrænset årets salg af arealer og ejendomme. Selskabets resultater og værdiskabelse bør derfor vurderes i et længere tidsperspektiv.

Den fortsatte udvikling af Nordhavnen og Marmormolen, opfyldningen i Nordhavnen, etableringen af en ny krydstogtkaj til betjening af det stigende antal krydstogtanløb samt gennemførte rationaliseringer i 2009 vil påvirke selskabets økonomi positivt i de kommende år. Samtidig forventes det, at der vil være et stigende resultat inden for de øvrige segmenter.

Egenkapitalen er ved udgangen af 2009 på -1.222 mio. kr., men med de planlagte udviklingsprojekter forventes det, at selskabet vil have en positiv egenkapital inden for en 5-10 års periode afhængig af, at en mere gunstig konjunktur gør sig gældende. I 2010, som stadig vil være præget af lavkonjunktur, forventes et resultat tæt på nul.

Læs hele By & Havns årsrapport på www.byoghavn.dk/okonomi

mlm

March 26th, 2010, 09:06 PM

^^ You forgot to highlight their impressive "Egenkapital". ;)

mlm

March 28th, 2010, 12:34 AM

There's a bit about the multiarena in the "Dagsorden" from Borgerrepræsentationen, see the first 4 documents here (http://www.kk.dk/PolitikOgIndflydelse/ByensStyre/Moeder/NyeDagsordenerOgBeslutningsreferater/Borgerrepr%C3%A6sentationen.aspx?show=%2feDoc%2fBorgerrepr%C3%A6sentationen%2f25-03-2010+17.30.00%2fDagsorden&type=Dagsorden).

Seems the expect the arena to cost 1.3 billion DKK (1 billion for the arena and 300 million for the site), and they still need some 500-600 million.

Xed

March 28th, 2010, 09:13 AM

... and they still need some 500-600 million.

I'll go check my bank account, to see how much I received from overpaid tax...

Never give up

April 8th, 2010, 03:27 PM

Has nothing happened in Ørestad since the 28th March?
Well the Bella Hotel keeps getting higher and with more cladding on it, so here is a little update taken through the dirty windows of a metro train.

http://i39.************/epi0rk.jpg

staff

April 8th, 2010, 06:22 PM

Awesome! I saw them from the Ö-train yesterday as well and they really do look quite spectacular.

Fab 5

April 8th, 2010, 08:11 PM

^^Thanks for the various updates; wasn't that windmill supposed to be taken down immediately after the climate conference?

Lars_HH

April 10th, 2010, 09:14 PM

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/restad001-1.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/restad002-2.jpg

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http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/restad008-2.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/restad009-1.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/restad010-1.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/restad011-1.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/restad012-1.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/restad015-1.jpg

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http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/restad020-1.jpg

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http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/restad022-1.jpg

1. New road through Winghouse to the Kay Fisker Plads parking lot.

2. Cph. Towers ready for Danish Industry HQ

3. Rambøll with glass facade.

4. The new public school and library are U/C next to Ørestad Gymnasium

Pisling

April 11th, 2010, 04:01 PM

^^ Thanks :okay:

dancle

April 11th, 2010, 05:33 PM

Yeah thanks for the updates guys!! Bella hotel is looking awesome!:cheers:

staff

April 11th, 2010, 06:18 PM

I have sort of underrated this complex a bit. This huge scale atrium is very non-Scandinavian in a good way;

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/restad015-1.jpg

DenverDane

April 11th, 2010, 10:02 PM

Thanks for the update, Lars_HH and great angle on the Crowne Plaza Hotel! :okay: Makes it look really tall!

ØlandDK

April 11th, 2010, 10:42 PM

Nice update. Anybody going by 8-tallet at any time? Drove by earlier today - or I could see it in the distance. It looked amazingly huge! :D

u_neek

April 12th, 2010, 08:33 AM

Did they ever plant all those trees in the park? Haven't visited the area for ages.

TMG

April 12th, 2010, 10:03 AM

Yes, thanks for the update.

I drove by ITU recently, and I think, I spoted a poster for a new office project placed in front of ITU. Can anyone verfiy that?

nicolajb

April 12th, 2010, 10:23 AM

Did they ever plant all those trees in the park? Haven't visited the area for ages.

They were supposed to start last tuesday but I don't think any tree is planted yet. Same goes for the pocket park at V-Huset / Porthuset.... a lot of sticks have been placed last week, i think they indicate future tree locations.

acebone

April 12th, 2010, 11:24 AM

4 trees were planted last week.

--moebius--

April 12th, 2010, 01:24 PM

The tree planting machine broke down last week, so that's why its on hold. Should resume later this week.

u_neek

April 12th, 2010, 04:20 PM

Awesome :) Thanks for the answers. Can somebody post pics when they're all planted? I think it'll definitely give the park a better atmosphere.

Lars_HH

April 13th, 2010, 03:03 PM

Trees are being planted right now - at full speed.

(En tosset tømrermester er derudover kørt fast i sin varevogn midt på græsplænen og er ved at smadre den - hvad laver han der?)

aim1

April 13th, 2010, 03:27 PM

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/Aim1391/Billede032.jpg
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy129/Aim1391/Billede028.jpg

Lars_HH

April 13th, 2010, 05:38 PM

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/Panorama_Golfpark.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/restad2010.jpg

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1. Royal Golf Club House is U/C - I was trying to make a panorama photo

2. Trees are being planted - they are way taller.

3. Pocketpack is being established between VM-husene and Porthuset

4. Foodshop 55. - great success

5. Bella Hotel is coming really fast

6. Fairway is finished - nice design.

7. ABB - senior apartments at Edv. Thomsens Vej is under way.