I have said it before in this forum, and I say it again. Field's and Fisketorvet is perhaps the biggest disasters of urban planning in Copenhagen during this decade.
To open two so big and important shopping malls - in the center of what was supose to be a urban and dense city-like area, and right next to the water, and then closing them totally from the outside life. I think it is one of the main reasons that Ørestad have turned out so suburban, and it is so hard to create urban life. There is no doubt that Field's have been important for Ørestad, and have attracted both people and construction to Ørestad, but the way it have been designed is a disaster.

There are many good examples of malls or shopping centres that opens up to the outside and creates life around them. One of the best is in my opinion Akker Brygge in Oslo. Damned I wish Fisketorvet would have gone that way!
I also think several other newer malls of Copenhagen like Frederiksbergcentret, Waterfront and Spinderiet are good examples of urban centres that opens up and integrates good with the surroundings. Personally I like Waterfront very much - unfortunately it is rather small, and is not very good conected to public transport.

Lots of activity in this area at the moment. The connection between Artillerivej and Ørestads Boulevard has at last been started and the water basin beside the Metropole building is being excavated. Islands Brygge metro station in the background.

http://i53.************/mli42v.jpg

and a little further around the corner is an update from the demolition of RUA.

http://i56.************/35054dc.jpg

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I agree with you that Spinderiet (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=522276) is a great example of opening up a shopping centre to the surrounding area and I acknowledge that Waterfront (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=18151607&postcount=46) has at least one shop with a direct entrance from outdoors that is utilised to great effect (OVSA) but I don't see how the Frederiksberg Centre is at all any better than Field's or Fisketorvet. It is nothing but a big sarcophague that leaves around 300 metres of dead space along its sides just like Field's and Fisketorvet.

I agree Frederiksbergcentret could have been better - especially if Frederiksberg Kommune from the beginning have made a plan for the whole area, to create a good new urban space between and in interaction with all tthe new developments in the area for the past 15 years (Frederiksbergcentret, Metro, CBS, High school, cinema, parking garage, the future metro etc.).
But I still think it opens up very well toward Falkoner Alle in the one end and Solbjerg Plads in the other end, and have placed cafes with some outside activities in the corner of these big openings. It have a vibrant urban life in the area and around it, and Frederiksbergcentrets mix in with that, instead of keeping it for itself in a closed environment.
But I agree my other examples was a lot better than Frederiksbergcentret, but I chose to bring it along, as I anyway think it is not that bad, and I kind of like the area there, even though much could have been better.

I agree Frederiksbergcentret could have been better - especially if Frederiksberg Kommune from the beginning have made a plan for the whole area, to create a good new urban space between and in interaction with all tthe new developments in the area for the past 15 years (Frederiksbergcentret, Metro, CBS, High school, cinema, parking garage, the future metro etc.).
But I still think it opens up very well toward Falkoner Alle in the one end and Solbjerg Plads in the other end, and have placed cafes with some outside activities in the corner of these big openings. It have a vibrant urban life in the area and around it, and Frederiksbergcentrets mix in with that, instead of keeping it for itself in a closed environment.
But I agree my other examples was a lot better than Frederiksbergcentret, but I chose to bring it along, as I anyway think it is not that bad, and I kind of like the area there, even though much could have been better.

I thought I would bring this double shot of Frederiksberg Centre to illustrate your comments, with which I agree entirely. (in spite of it not being in Ørestad, won´t happen again! :bash:) A huge closed off area has been made accessable and allowed development which otherwise would have been placed out of town.
Another interesting thing is, that this centre did not result in the death of the existing shopping streets, in fact almost the opposite, as the shops in the centre consist, to a certain extent, of units requiring much more space than is available in older buildings.
The alternative placing of this centre had been on a ring road somewhere with access by car only had the railway freight yard not been available. :ohno:

http://i52.************/zwktu8.jpg

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In terms of architectual standard, Field's is IMO much more interesting with the yellow sand-stone and the swinging walls following Arne Jacobsens allé, than the Frederiksberg centre.
Inside Field's the lightness and modern decor make easy to find your way, and you don't have the impression of the 150,000 sqm.
The real problem with Field's is maybe more the expectations we all had for this new town around it (including myself).Remember that this centre and city(Ørestad) is based from an idea of new architecture in a bigger scale that we never have seen in Copenhagen before, and was constructed in windy no-where-land, far from everything.
The ambitions here was never to create cosy narrow streets with small plazas a la the middle age city, although we all know that the surrounding of Field's still need to be finished, and this probably will take many years from now.
Despite the good location in the heart of Frederiksberg it somehow "succeded" the architects to create the most bizarre building in the municipality, the Frederiksberg Centre, that in the inside with the Metro-connection is okay, but on the outside is a disaster.
Why we consider this centre as sucsessful, comes from the facts that the density of buildings and population around it, is very high, that integrate this very obscure eye-sore quite well.

Someone mentioned "Aker Brygge" in Oslo. I just googled it, and from what I can see, it looks very much the way, I would design a shopping mall. Imagine something like this, where Fields is located:

http://www.treehugger.com/AkerBryggeNorway.jpg

Xed! this doesn't make sense, what's so good about this one ?

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Someone mentioned "Aker Brygge" in Oslo. I just googled it, and from what I can see, it looks very much the way, I would design a shopping mall. Imagine something like this, where Fields is located:

http://www.treehugger.com/AkerBryggeNorway.jpg

Or even better yet like Magasin in Aarhus:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3144/2844110276_1aced2bded_b.jpg

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Just a little comment regarding Fields vs Aker Brygge. In a way it is hard to compare those two shopping centers. While Aker Brygge is more like a city development with a mix of old and new buildings connected together, and with pedastrian streets, offices, apartments, clubs, bars and restaurants, Fields is more like a regular shopping center i think. Aker Brygge is more like a modern "Nyhavn"

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u315/erreflot/AkerBrygge.jpg
Photo: Eirik H. Urke

^^You're mis-interpreting. Aker brygge shopping doesn't even cover half of your cirkle. What's good about Ab shopping is that they break up the long shopping streets with crossing outside streets, but really IMO it feels like a regular shopping mall from the inside. Almost none of the harbour front restaurants can be reached from inside the mall either. Shopping malls should just be avoided as part of city development in any case.

^^You're mis-interpreting. Aker brygge shopping doesn't even cover half of your cirkle.

I'm not misinterpreting. Point is that the hole area more or less is a part of Aker Brygge shopping. As you can see on this map
(http://www.akerbrygge.no/om-oss/kart). But let us not start a discussion about Aker Brygge in this thread. ;)

I'm not misinterpreting. Point is that the hole area more or less is a part of Aker Brygge shopping. As you can see on this map
(http://www.akerbrygge.no/om-oss/kart). But let us not start a discussion about Aker Brygge in this thread. ;)
Now it get interesting, 2 norwegian capacities debating :bash: in a danish thread

Now it get interesting, 2 norwegian capacities debating :bash: in a danish thread


Haha, sorry about that :cheers:

Well, just to finish the Aker Brygge discusion, as I was the one who first brought that up:

The good thing about Aker Brygge is exactly that they have created a mall that opens up and creates outside life and activity. Inside it have shops and looks like a normal standard mall, but a long the side and especially outside it have restaurants, cafes etc. that creates live a long it, instead of keeping it inside.
In Field's they have placed all restaurants, cafes and fast food places in the top, why? They could have placed them at ground level, a long the sides, to create live around it.
And at Fisketorvet it seems even more stupid that they have not made any activity at all along the pier. Not even the shops are opened towards the pier and the canal - it could have been done very easy!

I'm not a big fan of shopping malls, but Aker Brygge is in my opinion the best example of how it can be made in a very urban way, with activity around it, as part of a urban development.
In fact while many development areas around the World suffer from the same problem as here in Copenhagen (Ørestad, Islands Brygge etc.) - lack of urban life - Aker Brygge have lots of it.

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Arbejdet med en multiarena i København går ind i ny fase

Siden foråret har Københavns Kommune, By & Havn og Realdania undersøgt mulighederne for at opføre en multiarena i København på grundlag af en økonomisk bæredygtig forretningsmodel. Arbejdet med en fremtidig københavnsk multiarena går nu ind i en ny fase.
Københavns Kommune har gennem længere tid ønsket at få en multiarena af international standard, som kan rumme musik, kultur og sport af høj international kvalitet – til glæde for byens borgere og gæster. Forventningen er, at multiarenaen positivt vil kunne styrke Hovedstadens evne til at tiltrække turister, internationale sports- og kulturbegivenheder og nye virksomheder – og dermed være med til at fremme vækst og beskæftigelse.



Visionen er at styrke kulturlivet, bylivet og den økonomiske udvikling i Danmark ved at opføre en arena, der indeholder alle de faciliteter, som forventes af en moderne arena. Arenaen skal medvirke til at styrke Københavns internationale profil og bringe København tættere på verden. Den skal samtidig understøtte bylivet og tiltrække endnu flere internationale investeringer til Ørestad.



Den foreløbige forretningsplan, som Københavns Kommune, By & Havn og Realdania siden foråret har arbejdet på, tilsiger, at der vil være et marked for en multiarena i Hovedstaden. Parterne har derfor valgt at gå videre med undersøgelserne. Forretningsplanen udføres i samarbejde med det engelske firma Davis Langdon - et af verdens førende inden for feltet - og næste fase bliver at teste forskellige forretningsmodeller i markedet for underholdning og sport. Resultatet af de videre undersøgelser forventes at foreligge omkring sommeren 2011.

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Thanks for the info. I know you've probably been in a hurry but a link to the source and a brief abstract in English would really be helpful. Thanks!

EDIT: This is probably the source: http://www.realdania.dk/Presse/Nyheder/2010/Multiarena241110.aspx

The text basically says that the work to realise a multiarena in Copenhagen enters a new phase. A preliminary business case analysis points to there being a feasible market for a multiarena and that the parties have decided to continue with the planning on this basis. The business plan is being drawn up together with British consultants Davis Langdon and the next phase will be to test different business models in the market for entertainment and the sport. The results of this are expected to be ready in the summer of 2011.

Yes, thanks Knilaus :)

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As i have already commented in the arena thread, I find the title of the article misleading. The new phase which the arena plans are now entering seems to be the same as they have been stuck in for the past decade.:ohno:

This evening I ate a pizza with Jens Kramer Mikkelsen in Foodshop no. 55, the By & Havn is also looking in this thread now and then :)

He told me that Ceraco is going U/C before New Year 2010/2011 to avoid VAT, it is going to be apartments for rent, with a COOP store on ground floor (probably still IRMA) and maybe Baresso beside it (he didn't knew the exact details of that agreement). Kramer had worries that they would do it Greek-style with only doing the founding of the building.

Besides that, COOP is looking seriously on 8-tallet for establishment of a store, and trees are heading towards Ørestad Syd. He had nothing new about the Liebeskind area.

He spoke warmly about the new ETV-parking project because of the massive amount of carcapacity :)

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This evening I ate a pizza with Jens Kramer Mikkelsen in Foodshop no. 55, the By & Havn is also looking in this thread now and then :)

He told me that Ceraco is going U/C before New Year 2010/2011 to avoid VAT, it is going to be apartments for rent, with a COOP store on ground floor (probably still IRMA) and maybe Baresso beside it (he didn't knew the exact details of that agreement). Kramer had worries that they would do it Greek-style with only doing the founding of the building.

Besides that, COOP is looking seriously on 8-tallet for establishment of a store, and trees are heading towards Ørestad Syd. He had nothing new about the Liebeskind area.

He spoke warmly about the new ETV-parking project because of the massive amount of carcapacity :)
This is a funny post, you Lars and the former mayor, sharing a Calzone together , while he's telling you about the future plans in Ørestad, I don't hope it was confidental your chat, especially not that we know that he once in a while is following our forum :lol:

This is a funny post, you Lars and the former mayor, sharing a Calzone together , while he's telling you about the future plans in Ørestad, I don't hope it was confidental your chat, especially not that we know that he once in a while is following our forum :lol:

It wasn't confidential (or at least so i hope) because it was the first time we spoke together and it was in public. But he know about me and Lars (Kipple) work out-here documenting Ørestads development I felt a bit flattered :nuts:.
He was defending Ørestads parking policy and told me that there is now going to be a P-restriction area around the metrostations here also to prevent heavy traffic on the "wrong" side of the canal.
I told him that the parking situation was not functioning wellbecause some people reject Ørestad because of that :)

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From orestad.net:

"I forbindelse med byggeriet af parkeringshuset på Edvard Thomsens Vej bliver 30 gæsteparkeringspladser inddraget til oplagring af byggematerialer. Pladserne er markeret med rødt på vedhæftede kort. By & Havn har indtil nu lånt Ceracos byggegrund mellem P-huset og Arne Jacobsens Allé, men da Ceraco nu skal bygge på deres egen grund, er det nødvendigt at oprette en ny lagerplads."

Above is another indication that Ceraco will start building on their site very soon. By&Havn will move some of their stuff from the site because Ceraco is starting construction. Let us hope that they don't go for the greek solution that Lars mentioned as a possibility.

Furthermore I know that Baresso has been doing some market research in the area asking people in the street if they would want a Baresso at the place.

I have also heard about someone who wants to open a small cafe/coffee shop in Porthuset. The person was about to contact Goldschmidt, the owner of the ground level shops there.

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Fresh update :-)

it looks like they are putting up the skywalk on bella sky today. Lots of activity over there right now

http://politiken.dk/turengaartil/rejsenyt/ferieidanmark/ECE1132560/nyt-dansk-hotel-slaar-taarnet-i-pisa/?ref=eb1

Fresh update :-)

it looks like they are putting up the skywalk on bella sky today. Lots of activity over there right now

It's up :-)

pictures please :D

pictures please :D
yeah, the poor Bella webcam is frozen

Haven't had the time to get a good pictire but this is from the car this morning :-)

I know.... bad light, bad quality and extremely bad angle (from other angles the skywalk looks much cooler!):

http://i55.************/n1t1de.jpg

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Thank you very much Nicolajb :)

just been invited for a tour of Bella Sky on 27/1.... just can't wait :-)

just been invited for a tour of Bella Sky on 27/1.... just can't wait :-)

How did you get the offer? Can others join? :)

Pretty sure everyone can join but the price is 500,- DKK

I was lucky that a friend of mine offered to pay ;-)

http://www.byens-netvaerk.dk/page.asp?objectid=1098&zcs=359

I do not have paid access to FW, but seems like Nordea is considering to create a new Danish HQ in Ørestad, as the one in Christianshavn is getting too small.

Perhaps phase two of Copenhagen Towers could be a perfect fit?

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2348/2271470455_45cd01e3ec_z.jpg

Nordeas flytteplaner peger mod Ørestaden
Finansliv: Nordea er ved at vokse ud af det nuværende hovedsæde på Christianshavn. Banken vil helst blive på Christianshavn, men kan blive tvunget til at opføre nyt hovedsæde. Forhandlinger med ATP Ejendomme om en renovering af Ørkenfortet.

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Sounds like a win-win situation though. It would be great to see a redesigned and extended Ørkenfort building with extra floors towards Torvegade, the current building is such a disgrace on such a destinctive location. I don't hope they just give it a similar design to the rest of the Nordea complex though, it is so monotoneous already as it is.

And an alternative move to Ørestad would certainly also hold a lot of potential. Especially if their entire hq relocates. That would also be great for the terribly dead Christiansbro area.

I haven't been in Kopenhagen for a few years now
a lot has changed, and it looks quite nice over there
have to return for sure

any big city changes plannend for soon?

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Nordea er ved at vokse ud af det nuværende hovedsæde på Christianshavn. Banken vil helst blive på Christianshavn, men kan blive tvunget til at opføre nyt hovedsæde. Forhandlinger med ATP Ejendomme om en renovering af Ørkenfortet.

Nordeas Henning Larsen-tegnede hovedsæde smukt beliggende ned til vandet, der deler København City og Amager, er ved at blive for småt til den ekspansive storbank. Nordea har svært ved at finde ledige kvadratmeter i hovedsædet og må derfor i mange tilfælde placere medarbejdere og mindre afdelinger rundt omkring på andre Nordea-adresser i København, selvom det optimale ville være, at de fik fast sæde i hovedsædet på Christianshavn.

Derfor undersøger Nordea mulighederne for enten at udbygge hovedsædet, eller måske opføre et helt nyt hovedsæde i Ørestaden. Ifølge flere anonyme kilder som FinansWatch har talt med, så forfølger Nordea to spor. Udgangspunktet for banken er, at man udbygger det nuværende hovedsæde. For det første er Nordea glade for den centrale beliggenhed, og for det andet så har banken indgået en lang kontrakt med ATP Ejendomme, hvorfor det vil være dyrt, hvis banken beslutter sig for at forlade den nuværende lokation.

Flere muligheder

Men for at stå bedst mulig i forhandlingerne med ATP Ejendomme, og for at undersøge tingene til bunds, så har Nordea bedt flere entreprenører komme med bud på, hvad det vil koste at opføre et 50.000 kvadratmeter stort hovedsæde tæt på Fields i Ørestaden.

P.t. skulle Nordea og ATP Ejendomme være i dialog omkring de forskellige muligheder der er, for at få udbygget hovedsædet, hvor Nordea også meget gerne ser en gennemgribende renovering af Ørkenfortet, den gamle bygning der ligger lige over for Udenrigsministeriet. Her holder Nordea Markets til og de utidssvarende bygninger ønsker både ATP og Nordea at få gjort noget ved. P.t. er det dog uklart, hvordan man løser problemet med at genhuse de mange Nordea-medarbejdere, mens renoverings-arbejdet skal s

I can understand why there is not much activity on the up-date front.
It´s too cold to take off your gloves to take photos.
One way of getting around this is to take photos from a metro train and therefore I can post 2 up-dates, the first from the future school and library in Ørestad City which is now approaching first floor level. Note the jagged facade along the canal, which is covered by a platform supporting the building site on the right.

http://i55.************/iy3qft.jpg

and a shot over the roof of Bella Center, of the Comwell hotel "now with bridge"

http://i51.************/os8r28.jpg

^^ Thanks, NGU :applause:

Pretty bad renderings of field's part 2, but you can se the "plantegning" for the second section :)

http://www.evenden.dk/Fields_2.html

I know Bella Sky Hotel has been covered very closely in this forum, but the weather was nice, so here are some further pictures:

http://www.kifora.dk/Web/_private/IMG_8939.jpg

http://www.kifora.dk/Web/_private/IMG_8942.jpg

http://www.kifora.dk/Web/_private/IMG_8943.jpg

http://www.kifora.dk/Web/_private/IMG_8944.jpg

http://www.kifora.dk/Web/_private/IMG_8945.jpg

http://www.kifora.dk/Web/_private/IMG_8946.jpg

http://www.kifora.dk/Web/_private/IMG_8947.jpg

http://www.kifora.dk/Web/_private/IMG_8948.jpg

http://www.kifora.dk/Web/_private/IMG_8949.jpg

^^ Thanks for the photos. Whats with the cladding on the top floor, is it supposed to be another color than the rest of the building? Or maybe they just haven't removed some protection from the panels yet? Seems quite strange with the white clad top floor bridge and another color for the rest of the top floor.

Frankly I think it looks quite great - it is the skybar, no?

Thanks for the photos :-)

Very nice, TMG! Facade almost done!

The pictures you post are very small, though. Can't you post pictures bigger than 650 pixels? Cheers from us with a 1200 wide screen!:)

More accolade for 8 House.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jacob-slevin/10-best-architecture-mome_b_798929.html#s212795&title=8%20House

Very good news indeed:

EN IRMA OG 108 NYE BOLIGER TIL ØRESTAD CITY

5. januar 2011

Endnu et byggeri er netop gået i jorden i Ørestad City. Udover 108 nye ejerlejligheder åbner også en Irma og en café i stueetagen af det nye byggeri. Samtidig er byggeriet den sidste byggebrik i karréen mellem Center Boulevard, Arne Jacobsens Allé og Edward Thomsens Vej.



Allerede om godt et år – det vil sige i april/maj 2012 - står der endnu et byggeri i Ørestad klar til indflytning. Byggeriet, der netop nu er ved at få støbt fundament, vil indeholde 108 ejerlejligheder, en Irma samt en café i stueetagen. Der bygges 108 lejligheder – både 2-, 3- og 4-værelses-lejligheder.

”Ejerlejlighederne får en rigtig god beliggenhed lige i hjertet af Ørestad og tæt på Byparken og Metroen. Vi glæder os meget til at byde de første beboere velkomne i foråret 2012,” siger adm. direktør i Ceraco, Ernst Michelsen.
Der er godt gang i kranerne i Ørestad. Lige ved siden af Ceracos nye byggeri er Boligforeningen AAB ved at opføre 89 såkaldte 50+ boliger, og på den anden side af Edward Thomsens Vej er By & Havn ved at opføre et P-hus med plads til 747 biler. Tæt på – ved Ørestads Boulevard - svinger kranerne for at færdiggøre det store folkeskole- og biblioteksbyggeri, der forventes færdig allerede i år:

* Læs mere om den kommende folkeskole
* Læs om 50+ boliger
* Læs mere om P-hus på Edvard Thomsens Vej

I Ørestad Syd er hele 5 byggerier lige ved – eller allerede i gang med at blive bygget. Her drejer det sig om både almene familieboliger, ungdomsboliger, rækkehuse og ældreboliger. Læs nyhed fra 15. september

”Det er meget glædeligt, at Ceraco sætter gang i deres byggeri, og det er – sammen med de andre i gangværende byggerier – med til at understrege, at der er godt gang i Ørestad. Samtidig vil den nye Irma-butik sikkert glæde de beboere, der har efterspurgt flere butikker,” siger adm. direktør i By & Havn, Jens Kramer Mikkelsen.
Byggeriet på grunden var i længere tid tænkt som et erhvervsbyggeri. Men det har vist sig, at boligmarkedet nu går så godt i Ørestad, at Ceraco har valgt at ændre byggeriet til et boligbyggeri.

”Der er godt gang i ejerlejlighedssalget i Ørestad, så det er et godt tidspunkt at påbegynde vores nye byggeri. Samtidig er der nogle fornuftige byggepriser for øjeblikket, så Københavnerne kan glæde sig til endnu et kvalitetsbyggeri i Ørestad,” siger adm. direktør i Ceraco, Ernst Michelsen.

Pressekontakt:
Kommunikationschef i By & Havn
Pernille Garde Abildgaard
T: 2916 0586

The ugliest buildingsite is now going to disappear

And the bad news.. Grrr :bash:

http://magasinetejendom.dk/news/singleview/article/davidsen-partner-er-gaaet-konkurs.html

The ugliest buildingsite is now going to disappear

and a rendering of the building in question. :cheers:

http://i52.************/301khu8.jpg

Can Irma compete with the gigantic Bilka? :-/

^^ Yes, I believe so. Shopping in Irma is an entire different experience. It's so neat, well-organized and inviting, and I think a lot of people are willing pay a bit extra for that. Shopping in Bilka often leaves me with a feeling of being mentally violated :lol:

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You bet it can! For a number of reasons:
1) The Irma and the Bilka are located equally far away from the metro station and the local residents' apartments and relatively close to each other.

2) When the many visiting suburbians that plow through Bilka with huge shopping trolleys filled with gigantic bags of toilet paper, cola light and cheap, watered down pesticide chicken are done with their monthly shopping they will remember that there's an Irma nearby and they just have to get that good bottle of red wine that was on sale or the good quality chocolate for the evening coffee etc.

3) If most of the local Ørestad-residents are like me they're fed up with the insanely long queues at the checkout in Bilka and the fact that they have to walk around 1 km inside the supermarket just to get their daily milk and bread. They're probably also fed up about the fact that Bilka only has two machines for returning bottles leading to huge, slow-moving queues in the weekends. And finally they probably have a lot of disposable income that they would rather spend on small selections of high quality food compared to the 5 kilo packages of pesticide beef that you can buy in Bilka. Foodshop has managed to do well it seems and to me that testifies to the level of disposable income and sense of quality by the local residents.

Of course in the end it also comes down to the quality of the local management of the new Irma. For example the Irma that was opened in A-huset on Islands Brygge plainly sucks as they never have fresh milk or bread and seem to be constantly out of the good staple items that are easy to find in f.x. Irma on Solbjerg Plads.

Not to mention organic foods. This "display" is what Dansk Supermarkeder offers in Fisketorv. :ohno:

http://i51.************/15oywsg.jpg

You bet it can! For a number of reasons:
1) The Irma and the Bilka are located equally far away from the metro station and the local residents' apartments and relatively close to each other.

2) When the many visiting suburbians that plow through Bilka with huge shopping trolleys filled with gigantic bags of toilet paper, cola light and cheap, watered down pesticide chicken are done with their monthly shopping they will remember that there's an Irma nearby and they just have to get that good bottle of red wine that was on sale or the good quality chocolate for the evening coffee etc.

3) If most of the local Ørestad-residents are like me they're fed up with the insanely long queues at the checkout in Bilka and the fact that they have to walk around 1 km inside the supermarket just to get their daily milk and bread. They're probably also fed up about the fact that Bilka only has two machines for returning bottles leading to huge, slow-moving queues in the weekends. And finally they probably have a lot of disposable income that they would rather spend on small selections of high quality food compared to the 5 kilo packages of pesticide beef that you can buy in Bilka. Foodshop has managed to do well it seems and to me that testifies to the level of disposable income and sense of quality by the local residents.

Of course in the end it also comes down to the quality of the local management of the new Irma. For example the Irma that was opened in A-huset on Islands Brygge plainly sucks as they never have fresh milk or bread and seem to be constantly out of the good staple items that are easy to find in f.x. Irma on Solbjerg Plads.

I think and hope you are right!
Personally I shop WAY more in the small IRMA on Kongelundsvejen than in Bilka.
I will for sure use the IRMA in Ørestad.

About Foodshop.... I'm not sure they are doing that good (but it is just a guess). Breads are getting a bit smaller i feel and it is not that crowded anymore. I don't think the strategy of selling bread at INSANE prices is a good idea. I didn't like the idea of their salat either. they were so scrupulous about not giving a gram too much. They should look at how Ismageriet do business. the profit margin on bread is big so giving more is not that expensive for them..... anyway that was a bit off topic, sorry :-)
I still go there quite often though :-)

Once again Brdr. Andersen.

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The view of my doorphone-cam :)
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Some older ones...
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http://www.byoghavn.dk/da-DK/Presse/Nyheder/2009/~/media/News/4D-nord.ashx?w=480&h=210&as=1

http://www.byoghavn.dk/da-DK/Presse/Nyheder/2009/~/media/News/4D-syd.ashx?w=480&h=192&as=1

I have noticed that the construction period for the brilliant project "4D" has updated on Nordkranens website to 2011-2013. http://www.nordkranen.dk/4d/

I really hope that this project is realised during that period but to be honest: I have no expectations at all.

As a reminder of how the plans look, here is a superb pdf presentation: http://www.dsbo.dk/Portals/0/4D%20Team%201.pdf

Photo taken november 21st:
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One of the nice aspects of living at Ørestad City

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Great pictures and status Lars - thanks.

Thanks Lars (Kipple)

The new statusupdate from dec. 2010
http://www.orestad.dk/da-dk/Erhverv/~/media/Orestad/pdf/Statuspbyggerierdecember2010DK2.ashx

Not much new

And the bad news.. Grrr :bash:

http://magasinetejendom.dk/news/singleview/article/davidsen-partner-er-gaaet-konkurs.html

Making up for it a little:

http://building-supply.dk/article/view/58015/stor_interesse_for_konkursbo

for those of you who read Danish: http://www.dinby.dk/kobenhavn-s/nyt-fokus-paa-stoj-fra-skyttecenter

..

A little news about the multiarena.
The Ministry of Culture will support the arena with 10 million - if ever build :)
http://www.dr.dk/Regioner/Kbh/Nyheder/Koebenhavn/2011/01/17/172150.htm&regional

^^ Det forslår som en skrædder i Helvede.

Glistrup skal kickstarte Multiarena i Ørestad
N Den tidligere FCK-direktør skal sammen med DRformand Michael Christiansen have et projekt klar til efteråret.

Af SØREN KRAGBALLE

Den tidligere direktør for Parken Sport og Entertainment, Jørgen Glistrup, er blevet hyret til at sparke gang i Københavns forsøg på at få en multiarena bygget i Ørestad .

Ifølge Morgenavisen Jyllands-Postens oplysninger skal Glistrup sammen med DR-formand Michael Christiansen finde investorer og generelt fremme projektet.

Multiarenaen skal bygges i et samarbejde mellem Københavns Kommune, Realdania og By & Havn.

Kommunen har tidligere prøvet på at finde en operatør bl. a. ved at tilbyde et rentefrit lån på 200 mio. kr., som man havde fra salget af Bella Center.

Kommunen forhandlede med AEG og endnu en interesseret, men projektet faldt til jorden.

I stedet er man gået sammen med Realdania, der har en stor pengekasse, og By & Havn, som har en grund, der kan bruges. Og det er så meningen, at Jørgen Glistrup sammen med Michael Christiansen skal sætte alvorligt skub i processen.

Er det noget, du kender til? »Jamen, det er det da. Der kommer noget ud i dag,« siger Jørgen Glistrup.

Hvilken rolle skal du have, og hvem bliver din arbejdsgiver? »Det synes jeg, at du skal diskutere med dem, der sender noget ud.« Er det Realdania? »Ja,« siger Jørgen Glistrup.

Ifølge Jyllands-Postens oplysninger skal de tre parter, Københavns Kommune, Realdania og By & Havn med Glistrup og Christiansen i front være klar til at præsentere et færdigt projekt senest til efteråret i år.

Det har ikke været muligt at få en kommentar fra Realdania.

soeren.kragballe@jp.dk

sammen med DRformand Michael Christiansen

Makes me think of this little clip with him about his history as a 'btgherre' - "så kom vi så langt, vi har stadig ingen løsning!". Let's hope he has learned something afterall::lol:

http://www.dac.dk/visNyhed.asp?artikelID=6866

Joking aside, it sounds very good, thanks for sharing.:)

Bad news about the multiarena. Seems like it's gonna be the Herning model in Ørestad, which I think is good for Herning but bad for Copenhagen were it should be bigger and better looking:
http://www.takeoff.dk/news/20495

Bad news about the multiarena. Seems like it's gonna be the Herning model in Ørestad, which I think is good for Herning but bad for Copenhagen were it should be bigger and better looking:
http://www.takeoff.dk/news/20495

Arghh damn, but I hope it will be build with an option for an expansion in time :)

Bad news about the multiarena. Seems like it's gonna be the Herning model in Ørestad, which I think is good for Herning but bad for Copenhagen were it should be bigger and better looking:
http://www.takeoff.dk/news/20495

I'm sorry, but this is getting ridiculous.

I'll say: Save the money Copenhagen and use the already build arena in Malmø... So far it's serving the area perfect.

Regarding national events and future visions. (BOXEN - HERNING)

I'll say: Save the money Copenhagen and use the already build arena in Malmø... So far it's serving the area perfect.


It takes around 25 minuttes from Copenhagen central station to Malmö Arena, a few feet from Hyllie station.

A multi-arena in Ørestaden would certainly be closer to Copenhagen central station, and it would only take 6 minuttes to get there. And don't forget the metro and highway connections. Ørestaden would be ideal for a multi-arena.

The question is if Malmö has gotten the upper hand by beeing the first to have a modern multi-arena?

The question is if Malmö has gotten the upper hand by beeing the first to have a modern multi-arena?

I don't see why being first should matter much. At first the new-comer will have the novelty card, both in terms of audiances and potential events and after a little while I doubt anyone will remember of care which came first. If anybody will "winn" it will be the better arena - and with the latest bulletins I think there is a very good chance that will be Malmö though.

I do think Copenhagen will have an adventage though being the larger city. For events with a trans-sound appeal, transportation costs will come in top of ticket costs - having more people on "your" side means that you can charge more for the tickets and be competible. For "local" events having a larger population should also be an adventage quite obviously.

However, I think and hope there is room for both to thrive and there should be a lot of potential in joint arrangements with two good arenas (if the one in Ørestad will be good, that is= sp close plus other related facilities (including a very good selection of hotels very close).

I don't get why they don't make the extra investment to get something really great on that location though. Going for a Boxen-look alike will do more damage than good to Ørestad imo. But lets see what happens and how literally the latest story about a Boxen-model is to be taken.

If anyone is interested in buying a new flat or just having a look at Ceraco's new project in Ørestad there will be an open house by the construction site on Saturday the 29th from 11 to 15.

The project will be named "PULS".

source, Ørestad Avis
http://www.amager.net/orestad/en-irma-og-108-boliger-til-orestad-city#comment-352

I don't see why being first should matter much. At first the new-comer will have the novelty card, both in terms of audiances and potential events and after a little while I doubt anyone will remember of care which came first. If anybody will "winn" it will be the better arena - and with the latest bulletins I think there is a very good chance that will be Malmö though.

I do think Copenhagen will have an adventage though being the larger city. For events with a trans-sound appeal, transportation costs will come in top of ticket costs - having more people on "your" side means that you can charge more for the tickets and be competible. For "local" events having a larger population should also be an adventage quite obviously.

However, I think and hope there is room for both to thrive and there should be a lot of potential in joint arrangements with two good arenas (if the one in Ørestad will be good, that is= sp close plus other related facilities (including a very good selection of hotels very close).

I don't get why they don't make the extra investment to get something really great on that location though. Going for a Boxen-look alike will do more damage than good to Ørestad imo. But lets see what happens and how literally the latest story about a Boxen-model is to be taken.

I totally agree with you. It is just so "Danish" to go for the mundane instead of the fantastic.

I totally agree with you. It is just so "Danish" to go for the mundane instead of the fantastic.

Well I don't expect anything fantastic, of course money is an issue and basically we live in Denmark where the fantastic is too expensive to build. I just think that if they went for something a LITTLE great - in the un-fantastic Scandinavian sense of the word it would pay. Ørestad don't really need another project which will just attract more criticism and obviously what is great in a not so central location in a not so big city is not good enough in an area you what to be attractive in a much bigger city. Going for the Boxen model is giving up on Ørestad.

Konkursramt P-hus i lyn-udbud
Ommer Et byggeri af et parkeringshus i Ørestad nåede ikke at blive færdigt, inden entreprenøren Davidsen & Partnere gik konkurs, og nu skal byggeriet ud i nyt udbud

Af Torben Sigh igh@licitationen.dk

Entreprenørselskabet Davidsen 6 Partnere A/ S var dårligt kommet rigtigt i gang med opførelsen af et nyt Phus ved Edward Thomsens Vej i Ørestad på Amager, før firmaet måtte dreje nøglen om. Nu står bygherren med et P-hus som kun er et sted mellem 20 og 30 procent færdigt. Det har fået bygherren til at hæve entreprisekontrakten med det hedengange entreprenørselskab, og nu forbereder man sig på et nyt udbud. En såkaldt stadeopgørelse er på trapperne i dag, og på baggrund af blandt andet den, skal der nu laves et nyt udbud. Rygter om at det arbejde som er udført på byggeriet, skal gøres om, fordi det ikke er udført i den beskrevne kvalitet, kan vi ikke få be-eller afkræftet, men kurator ved advokatfirmaet Holst Advokater, Henrik Steen Jensen siger: .



Vurdering på vej

-Jeg har hørt rygtet, men kan ikke kommentere det, og det må bero på den stadeopgørelse, som er på trapperne, siger han til Licitationen.

Hos bygherren, By & Havn siger Hans Vasehus: -By & Havn vil nu foretage et nyt udbud på etableringen af P-Hus på Edward Thomsens Vej. På grund af de særlige omstændigheder vil udbuddet ske som en hasteprocedure.

Det betyder, at vi kan have valgt en ny entreprenør -og have en underskrevet kontrakt -indenfor 27 kalenderdage ( 10 til udbud, 10 til prækvalifikation og 7 dage til stand stilperiode).

P-huset skulle have været klar til indkørsel i efteråret 2011 og får plads til 747 biler. Faktisk regner bygherren med, at man på trods af forsinkelsen kan åbne P-huset ultimo 2011 som oprindeligt planlagt.

Huset beklædes med facadeplader, som skaber et skovmotiv, og der indføres et nyt brugervenligt parkeringssystem, som sikrer en optimal udnyttelse af de mange parkeringspladser til borgere, medarbejdere og erhvervsdrivende i lokalområdet.

Selve huset opføres som betonelementbyggeri med en særlig cirkulær konstruktion med sammen-flettede op-og nedkørselsramper.



Vurdering på vej

-Hvorvidt noget af det allerede byggede skal rives ned, må bero på den vurdering vi får, siger Byg & Havns Hans Vasehus.

Ifølge Licitationens oplysninger er der dog tale om, at en op-og nedkørselsrampe, som er påbegyndt, helt eller delvist skal bygges om.

Den oprindelige entreprise på hele byggeriet lå på cirka 70 millioner kroner.

De skæve tårne på Amager
Nye senge. Om fire måneder åbner Bella Sky Comwell. Nordeuropas største hotel kommer til at kæmpe hårdt for belægningsprocenten.

Af Sten Thorup Kristensen

De er ved at sætte vinduer i det 23 etager høje hotel Bella Sky Comwell. Nogen helt enkel operation er det ikke, for væggene hælder udad med 15 grader. Problemet bliver løst af polske og svenske specialister, der bliver hejst op i wirer. De gynger så, indtil de kan gribe fat i muren, og sammen med kolleger indenfor kan bolte vinduet fast.

Arbejdet er næsten symbolsk for byggeriet af det nye hotel: Det er spektakulært og ser halsbrækkende ud. Men det fungerer, og der er en stærk wire til at sørge for sikkerheden.

Bilister på vej til Ørestad eller Kastrup Lufthavn har længe kunnet følge opførelsen af de to kantede, karakteristiske tårne i hvidt beton og glas. Man kan mene, hvad man vil, men det giver det arkitektonisk farveløse Bella Center en meget synlig profil.

Tårnene skal rumme Nordeuropas største hotel med 814 værelser. Det svarer ifølge Bella Centers adm. direktør Arne Bang Mikkelsen til en udvidelse af Københavns samlede hotelkapacitet med 7 pct. Første halvdel åbner 16.

maj, hvor det ene tårn samt grundplan i dem begge bliver taget i brug. Andet tårn åbner 1.august.

Det er ikke et bekvemt tidspunkt at komme ud i markedet på. Hotelmarkedet er mærket af krisen, og det er ikke blevet bedre af, at andre aktører i branchen end Bella Center nåede at sætte store projekter i gang, mens alt endnu gik godt. Bella Sky Comwell blev påbegyndt i 2008, og der er på alle måder tænkt stort. Byggeprisen er 1,6 mia. kr.

»Havde det været i dag, havde det været vanskeligt at få det finansieret. Vores bank følger også byggeprocessen tæt. Men det er kun naturligt, og vi holder budgettet,« siger adm. direktør Arne Bang Mikkelsen.

Trods den store sum og det pressede marked kan han tale økonomi med selvsikkerhed.

Bella Sky Comwell hører ikke til de nødlidende byggeprojekter. Bella Center vil selv levere en stor del af gæsterne, og samme Bella Center har rygrad til at bære et underskud.

Trods krisen har Bella Centers regnskaber holdt sig langt fra røde tal. Bl. a. klimakonference og IOC-topmøde betød, at kriseåret 2009 tværtimod blev usædvanligt godt for Bella Center. Takket være de langsigtede bestillinger i konferenceverdenen kan man også allerede nu forudsige, at 2012 bliver et superår.

Der er bookninger helt frem til 2019. Dertil kommer, at der er en egenkapital på trekvart mia. kr. i selskabet.

Verdensrekord i hældning Men det er ikke kun i omfang og økonomi, at Bella Sky Comwell er tænkt stort. Det er også i arkitekturen. Det store clue er de skæve ydervægge.

Hældningen på 15 grader er formentlig den største for en betonbygning i verden - man er ved at undersøge det med henblik på at komme i Guiness rekordbog. Til sammenligning hælder det skæve tårn i Pisa blot 8 grader.

Bella Center ville gerne have bygget endnu højere, men det kunne man ikke få lov til på grund af indflyvningsbanerne til Kastrup.

Men med de 23 etager er man immervæk højt oppe, og håbet er, at man også kan få københavnerne til at nyde udsigten fra baren og restauranten højest oppe. Det skulle gerne blive et gå i byen-sted, oplyser Arne Bang Mikkelsen.

Udsigten findes naturligvis også fra værelserne, og man har bl. a. spillet på den ved at sætte glasvægge op ved brusenicherne. Det betyder, at gæsterne kan stå i morgenbadet og se ned til Stevns Klint. Eller op til Hven, hvis værelset vender mod nord.

Mere plads til konferencer Hotellet indeholder også en udvidelse af Bella Centers konferencefaciliteter. Cirka 800 gæster ad gangen kan være i mødelokaler af forskellig størrelse i de to tårnes nederste planer.

Også på andre måder kommer hotellet til at bære stærkt præg af slægtskabet til konferencecentret.

F. eks. bliver der i lobbyområderne opsat storskærme, hvor man live kan følge talerstolen. Det betyder, at gæsterne kan forlade konferencesalen, strække benene og få et måltid eller en kop kaffe uden at miste følingen med, hvad der foregår. Lobbyområderne får halvt præg af vinterhave - der bliver 14 meter til loftet, ovenlys og planter op ad nogle af væggene.
Og hvad angår det udendørs, som bilisterne ser - Arne Bang Mikkelsen lover, at det kommer til at se godt ud, når det står færdigt og byggerodet er væk. B.
business@berlingske.dk
' Havde det været i dag, havde det været vanskeligt at få det finansieret. Vores bank følger også byggeprocessen tæt. Men det er kun naturligt, og vi holder budgettet.
Arne Bang Mikkelsen, adm. direktør, Bella Center.
Fakta: Bella Sky Comwell
814 værelser - heraf 24 suiter og 46 værelser indrettet til handicappede.
Hotellet er 76,2 meter højt. Hældningen på 15 grader betyder, at der på øverste etage er 20 meters " udhæng".
Restauranter: A la carte med 90 pladser på mezzanin med Moltani køkken.
Sky Bar med 60 pladser på 23. etage.
To morgenmadsrestauranter med i alt 226 pladser. Lobbybar/ Lounge med 60 pladser.
Nye konferencefaciliteter med 30 mødelokaler - heraf to for VIP-gæster på øverste etage.
Nordic Spa på 850 kvadratmeter, designet af Bente Medelby Arkitekt: 3XB Hovedentreprise: NCC Hoteldirektør: Anders Duelund.
Åbnes 16. maj og 1. august 2011.
Billedtekst: Udsigten på 23. etage 76 meter oppe er uovertruffen.Arbejdere højt til vejrs udvendigt på det nye hotel Bella Sky Comwell ved Bella Center. Men de får næppe nydt den fantastiske udsigt deroppe.Bella Sky Comwell er med sine 15 grader formentlig indehaver af verdensrekorden i hældning. Fotos: Jens Astrup

Update from the new school and library in Ørestad City.

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and the artwork on the facade of Cabinn Hotel

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Has anyone solved the mistry of the facade colours on the top floors? Photo taken today.

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I was at a guided tour at Bella Sky this evening and I must say that it's a really amazing building. First Arne Bang Mikkelsen gave a little speak about the history of Bela Center and the story about the hotel.
after that we heard about the design and construction of the hotel..... also real interesting stuff - and then we went for the tour.

here are a few pictures :-)

From outside:
http://i52.************/16ib71z.jpg

From the top bridge:
http://i55.************/f1ktx1.jpg

The skybar (here you can see that something like every second window has some kind of sunscreen on - a real pitty imo):
http://i51.************/21bjigk.jpg

here it more visible (even though the pic quality is bad):
http://i54.************/33bl7gk.jpg

Glad that I'm not installing the wires:
http://i53.************/2lnwwti.jpg

North tower:
http://i56.************/30cnkhw.jpg

South tower:
http://i54.************/121348w.jpg

Funny thing during the presentation was that this picture was shown. They said that they have no clue how, when or who did it, except they know it is some guy called Ja-Hatten and that they found it on flickr:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ja-hatten/4558539728/
:)

Funny thing during the presentation was that this picture was shown. They said that they have no clue how, when or who did it, except they know it is some guy called Ja-Hatten and that they found it on flickr:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ja-hatten/4558539728/
:)

He is a real cool dude this JA-hatten, I think :lol:

What a view!!

He is a real cool dude this JA-hatten, I think :lol:

Yeah, i think so too :lol: and so did they! I think they were kind of proud when they showed the picture :)

I think they were kind of proud when they showed the picture :)

I am glad to hear, thanks for your little report :)

Thanks for 2 x photos. :) Nicolajs tour also solves the top floor cladding mystery. I still think it looks strange, but it does make sence to have a (almost) completely transparant facade at the skybar.

Yeah, thanks for the photo updates, NGU and Nicolaj. I am looking forward to the new school and library to add some extra to the area. And of course I am looking forward to the completion of Bella Sky. The view from up there must have been stunning.

And that photo sure is awesome, Ja-hatten!

:)

He is a real cool dude this JA-hatten, I think :lol:

:lol::lol::lol:

Thanks for the update, NGU, and thanks for the tour, nicolajb. Very interesting. I don't understand why so many people don't like the hotel. I think it's great!

Thanks for the update, NGU, and thanks for the tour, nicolajb. Very interesting. I don't understand why so many people don't like the hotel. I think it's great!

I have to say that the new color scheme they use at night has lifted the whole project several levels in my opinion. It simply looks stunning with the shifting colors!

http://ibyen.dk/restauranter/ECE1181898/caf-i-oede-luksusbyggeri-traekker-kunder-til-i-stort-tal/

I have to say that the new color scheme they use at night has lifted the whole project several levels in my opinion. It simply looks stunning with the shifting colors!
Drove by tonight and I have to agree with you - it actually made Ørestad's skyline look pretty cool! Anybody know if it's permanent?

Kend hotellet på lyset
BELLA SKY: Så nærmer vi os premieren. På fredag er der 100 dage til indvielsen af Bella Sky Hotel

Af Peter Kargaard kargaard@licitationen.dk

Nordens største hotel med de to markante 76,5 meter høje tårne har nu rejst sig i Ørestaden i København, og størstedelen af byggepladsen er flyttet indenfor.

I takt med at ledelsesgruppen efterhånden er ved at samle sig, går arbejdet nu fremad på byggepladsen. Og når håndværkerne er gået hjem, afprøves forskellige måder at illuminere det på mange måder udanske bygningsværk.

Belysningen lige nu er opsigtsvækkende smuk og en attraktion i sig selv, hvis man efter mørkets frembrud er på de kanter.

Efter forsinkelser, som følge af den hårde frost, er håndværkerne nu gået i gang med de sidste måneders slutspurt og klargøring af de i alt 814 værelser, der ikke overraskende bliver holdt i et skandinavisk design.

Bella Sky Hotel bliver en integreret del af Bella Center og supplerer de eksisterende 63 mødelokaler med 32 nye.

Herunder kommer et stort ballroom samt to mødelokaler på 23. etage i forbindelse med hotellets Skybar.

Større arrangementer De fleksible faciliteter betyder ikke alene, at Bella Center fremover kan afvikle flere og større kongresarrangementer sideløbende.

Med Bella Sky Hotel bliver det samtidigt muligt at tilgodese efterspørgslen fra nationale og internationale kongresarrangører om overnatningsmuligheder i direkte tilknytning til møderne, lyder det fra bygherren Bella Center.

Det er Bella Center selv, der står for både opførelsen og driften af hotellet.

Hotellet henvender sig primært til business-segmentet, og bliver derfor udstyret med den nyeste teknologi overalt.

Samtidig er der lagt vægt på forkælelsesdelen med forskellige restauranter, barer og loungeområder samt med et 850 kvm stort spaog Fittnesscenter, som alt sammen skal komme såvel hotelgæster som udefra besøgende til gode.



Porten til København

Med Bella Sky Hotel kan Ørestad og København se frem til et ekstravagant vartegn, der kommer til at rejse sig smukt mod himlen og som vil stå som en port til hele København.

Bella Sky Hotel indvies i starten af maj 2011.



Skyskrabere

Bella Sky Comwell får 814 værelser fordelt på 23 etager. De rejser sig 76,5 meter over Ørestaden ved Bella Center, hvor gæsterne blandet andet kan gøre brug af hotellets 32 mødelokaler Tårn 1 får 400 værelser samt tilhørende service-og fællesfaciliteter, placeret i en toetagers høj base på i alt 22.100 kvm.

Tårn 2 består af 414 værelser med tilhørende base i to etager fordelt over 22.073 kvm. Der kommer bro mellem tårnene på første og 23. etage.

Mere information kan findes på www.bellaskycomwell. dk.



Billedtekst: Som noget sjældent i dansk byggeri blev facadeelementerne monteret af specialuddannede håndværkere, der rapellede ned for at udføre deres arbejde. ( Foto: Jørgen Witved)Designet på værelserne bliver holdt i en enkel skandinavisk stil. ( Ill: bellaskycomwell. dk)Med metro, lufthavn og København tæt på har hotellet en attraktiv beliggenhed. ( Foto: Jørgen Witved)Bella Sky bliver et hotel i verdensklasse. Lige nu afprøves forskellige måder at belyse bygningen på. ( Foto: Jørgen Witved)

[QUOTE]Bella Center på akut pengejagt
Danmarks største konferencecenter mangler 100 og 200 mio. kr., fordi selskabets store hotelbyggeri er blevet for dyrt og forsinket. Forhandlinger med investorer og banker kan ende med nye ejere eller frasalg af hotellet.

Af BIRGITTE DYREKILDE MORTEN JOHNSEN
Trods voldsom succes de senere år står Bella Center i Ørestaden netop nu i akut pengemangel. Opførelsen af det storstilede Bella Sky Comwell Hotel lige ved siden af Danmarks største messecenter dræner pengekassen i det ellers veldrevne center.
Det ambitiøse hotelprojekt er blevet alt for dyrt og samtidig forsinket, og derfor vil Bella Centers bankforbindelse Nordea have skudt mellem 100 og 200 mio. kr. ind i ny aktiekapital, oplyser kilder til Morgenavisen Jyllands-Posten.
Bestyrelsen håber at finde en løsning inden for én til to uger.
Bella Centers bestyrelsesformand Søren Johansen er ikke meget for at tale om selskabets situation.

»Bella Center har en fornuftig drift og et godt forhold til sin långiver, og hotellet er næsten færdig. Det går nogenlunde som forventet. Det er rigtigt, at hotellet er blevet lidt forsinket og blevet lidt dyrere,« siger han.

Søren Johansen ønsker ikke at kommentere Jyllands-Postens oplysninger om, at der i øjeblikket ledes efter 100-200 mio. kr.

Gerne stærkere ejerkreds

Problemet er imidlertid, at ingen af selskabets største aktionærer, heriblandt ejendomsinvestoren Michael Kaa Andersen, den konkursramte Carsten Berger samt Fjordbank Mors, der i alt sidder på lige under 80 pct. af selskabets aktier, i skrivende stund er i stand til at stille med den nødvendige kapital.

»Nordea ser gerne en fi-nansielt stærkere ejerkreds.

Der kan godt være nogle af bankforbindelserne til aktionærerne, der har lyst til at stille med kapital, fordi de kan se, at Bella Center er en god forretning,« siger en kilde.

Det gælder bl. a. Nykredit og Alm. Brand Bank, der sidder med pantet i det konkursramte Rudersdals 17 pct. aktiepost i Bella Center.

Bestyrelsen er dog ikke sikker på at kunne finde pengene blandt de eksisterende aktionærer og har sat en investeringsbank på sagen. Den har bl. a. snakket med AP Pension om at skyde penge i Bella Center.

Udenlandsk tilbud afslået

Ejendomsinvesteringschef i AP Pension Peter Olsson bekræfter over for Jyllands-Posten, at pensionsselskabet er blevet kontaktet i forbindelse med investering i Bella Center.

»Der har været en tidligere drøftelse omkring det, men det er et par måneder tilbage.

Alt har principielt en interesse, hvis det er en god forretningsmulighed, vi har bare ikke været så langt endnu, at vi kan sige, om det er interessant eller ej,« siger han.

Foruden at lede efter penge hos eksterne og nuværende aktionærer undersøger bestyrelsen muligheden for at sælge det snart færdige hotel fra og derefter leje det tilbage i et såkaldt sale and lease backarrangement.

Aktionærerne har netop afslået et tilbud fra en udenlandsk kapitalfond, der gerne ville købe det milliardstore hotel.

»Den kapitalfond, du nævner, har været for at kigge på sale og lease back af vores hotel, men det var ikke interessant for os,« siger Michael Kaa Andersen.

»Betingelserne var ikke gode nok. Renten var bl. a. for høj,« forklarer han.

Hverken Michael Kaa Andersen eller bestyrelsesformand Søren Johansen vil oplyse, om der er kommet flere bud på det snart færdigbyggede hotel.

Nordens største hotel Manglen på kapital i Bella Center kommer til trods for, at det store københavnske messecenter i 2009 havde sit bedste år nogensinde. Store internationale arrangementer som COP15 og IOC's kongres var med til at give guldrandede dage på Amager og var medvirkende til, at Bella Center det år tjente hele 115 mio. kr. på bundlinjen ud af en omsætning på 708 mio.

kr.

Byggeriet af det nye hotel, der ifølge centret selv bliver Nordens største med over 800 værelser, blev påbegyndt i september 2008, kun halvanden uge efter, at krakket i det amerikanske Lehman Brothers havde sendt chokbølger gennem finansverden.

Til trods for det stillede Nordea over en mia. kr. til rådighed for Bella Center til at løfte det store hotelbyggeri, der har en samlet projektsum på 1,3 mia. kr.

Ifølge aktiekursen på minibørsen OTC i Horsens er markedsværdien af hele Bella Center inklusiv hotellet på mellem 500 og 900 mio. kr. - alt efter om værdien opgøres efter udbuds-eller salgspris i den illikvide aktie.

bidy@jp.dk morten.johnsen@jp.dk

Fakta: BELLA-AKTIER
Fire storaktionærer
Storaktionærerne i Bella Center siger om deres aktieposter: Fjordbank Mors (14 pct.), adm. direktør Torben Sørensen: »Vi er lagt sammen for ganske for nylig (Morsø Bank og Morsø Sparekasse, red.), og der skal være et bestyrelsesseminar i weekenden. Da skal vi blandt andet diskutere, hvad vores holdning er til forskellige investeringer. Historisk set har Bella Center været en god investering, men vi står i en fase nu, hvor vi kigger på, hvad gør vi fremadrettet.« Fagbyg, Steen Aabo (21 pct.): »Jeg sidder i øjeblikket på Tenerife, og jeg kan simpelthen ikke udtale mig.« Er du interesseret i at sælge? »Jeg har ingen kommentarer til det. Jeg er ikke inde i nogen forhandlinger - det kan jeg sige meget præcist.« Michael Kaa Andersen / Proark (45 pct.): Er du interesseret i at sælge aktier i Bella Center? »Nej, det har jeg intet ønske om.« Vil du gerne forøge den? »Det vil altid være interessant, for jeg tror på Bella Center.
Der er ikke så mange virksomheder, der har 60 pct. af deres budget hjemme for 2011 og 65 pct. hjemme for 2012.« Rudersdal (17 pct.) Aktieposten er en del af konkursboet efter Rudersdal.
Nyredit bank og Alm. Brand Bank har pant i aktieposten og er dem, der i givet fald skal håndtere et salg af aktieposten.
Billedtekst: Bella Sky Cromwell er allerede, inden det står færdigt, blevet et vartegn for Ørestad. Det rummer 814 værelser og 30 fleksible møde-og konferencerum. Foto: Niels Hougaard/[QUOTE]

Bella Sky in financial problems luckily it's almost finished :)

Miscellaneous:

Ørestad will get a couple uf new inhabitants. Svend Wiig Hansen's five metres tall sculpture group from Gammel Strand which has been dismantled due to construction of the metro station seems to be taking up permanent residency in Ørestad Bypark.

http://multimedia.pol.dk/archive/00516/Metro_p__Gammel_Str_516093q.jpg

http://ibyen.dk/gadeplan/article1182677.ece

A bit offt-opic but the café at 8 House is reported to have succes with live music on Saturndays. I am a bit puzzled by this comment in Politiken though: "Faktisk kan man sige, at Ørestad nu har fået sit første kulturelle trækplaster". Wonder what she calls the Copenhagen Concert Hall - or that "Under Vand" place at Kay Fuskers Plads although I guess that is obly temporary?:dunno:


http://ibyen.dk/restauranter/ECE1181898/caf-i-oede-luksusbyggeri-traekker-kunder-til-i-stort-tal/

And finally an evaluation calls Plug n Play initiative a success and recommends that it is continued and accompanied by other similar initiatives. Here is the report:

http://www.byoghavn.dk/da-DK/Presse/Nyheder/2011/~/media/News/Hausenbergrapporttilweb.ashx

By&Havn hunting a new contractor to finish the parking-project at Edvard Thomsens vej, after Davidsen Partners went bankrupt in december.

http://www.building-supply.dk/article/view/59428/by_havn_soger_ny_entreprenor_efter_konkurs

The criteria is the lowest price - super :)

Karsten Koch hopes to start the parking house in Ørestad Syd, but doesn't promise anything - not on paper.

#7 Bestyrelsesformand i By & Havn Carsten Koch 03.-02.-2011 22:39
På baggrund af det åbne brev fra Steen Jurs den 25. januar 2011 om parkeringssitua tionen i Ørestad Syd kan jeg henholde mig til denne redegørelse fra By & Havn: www.orestad.dk/da-DK/Erhverv/~/media/Orestad/pdf/ParkeringOrestadSydstatus030211.ashx

Som det fremgår heraf, er By & Havn meget optaget af, at parkeringen i området udvikles i brugernes interesse, men vi må naturligvis sikre, at det sker på et forretningsmæss igt grundlag. Jeg håber, at vi i løbet af 2011 vil kunne igangsætte etablering af det første parkeringshus i Ørestad Syd.

Med venlig hilsen

Carsten Koch
Bestyrelsesform and i By & Havn

Up date from the Golf Club house on Amager Fælled. Hopefully soon the slopes will be covered in grass.

http://i56.************/rlyplj.jpg

http://i51.************/13yi1x1.jpg

By&Havn hunting a new contractor to finish the parking-project at Edvard Thomsens vej, after Davidsen Partners went bankrupt in december.
Maybe Brdr. A. & B. Andersen is the solution ?

http://www.building-supply.dk/article/view/59618/brdr_a_b_andersen_overtager_konkursramte_projekter

Maybe Brdr. A. & B. Andersen is the solution ?

http://www.building-supply.dk/article/view/59618/brdr_a_b_andersen_overtager_konkursramte_projekter

That could be great, they are just around the corner at the golf club house :)

Architectural rendering of the exciting new school and library under construction in the centre of Ørestad city. (KHR Architecs)
There was criticism in the beginning about the amount of outdoor space available for the pupils, due to the very restricted site, but this angle shows the numerous terraces and roof-top play areas, not to mention the roof of the ajacent parking building.

http://i56.************/ibdpg8.jpg

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Wonder how practical the stairs are during winter, with ice and snow in combination with kids that play? I'm just saying...

Judging from this pic (http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5252/5431526635_bdb1b7e980_z.jpg) of yours the gap between "Bellahus" and "VM Bjerget" seems quite big.

According to orestad.dk it consist of two seperate buildings sites.

Since bellahus is about 7-8 floors and bjerget ~40 m i guess they will allow the same hight definition on those two lots as well.

How come we've never seen or heard of any renderings nor contractors wanting to invest at this area? Bad location :dunno:

Anyway how many empty buildings sites remains to be constructed in Ø-City north of the motorway and beside the Libeskind area(7-8)?

Judging from this pic (http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5252/5431526635_bdb1b7e980_z.jpg) of yours the gap between "Bellahus" and "VM Bjerget" seems quite big.

According to orestad.dk it consist of two seperate buildings sites.

Since bellahus is about 7-8 floors and bjerget ~40 m i guess they will allow the same hight definition on those two lots as well.

How come we've never seen or heard of any renderings nor contractors wanting to invest at this area? Bad location :dunno:

Anyway how many empty buildings sites remains to be constructed in Ø-City north of the motorway and beside the Libeskind area(7-8)?

They are trying their best!

http://www.orestad.dk/da-DK/Erhverv/Grundsalg/OrestadCity1D.aspx

They are trying their best!

http://www.orestad.dk/da-DK/Erhverv/Grundsalg/OrestadCity1D.aspx

Thanks N.G.U. I thought it was supposed to be residential... What's the hight restictions >35m towards Ørestad city?

^^

The site nearest Bjerget is sold to Sjælsø. There is one rendering available at Sjælsøs site:

http://www.sjaelsoe.dk/en/LeftMenu/Denmark/Commercial/Domicile-Opportunities/List/Orestad-E1/

However I doubt that this is the final design.

By&Havn still owns the last site which has a very great location next to the Bella Center Station. I think it is a matter of timing more than location that is the reason for this site not being sold. By&Havn has pushed the sale around Ørestad Station and Ørestad Syd instead of this area.

Besides these two sites there is still the huge site at Kay Fiskars Plads which KLP owns and where the theatre group Hotel ProForma initially wanted to build a theatre which was cancelled. There is a site between Bella Hus and Københavns Energi. Then there is the 4D project by Byparken and two smaller projects next to Horisonten and Det Flexible Hus.

That's seven sites - I may have forgotten some.

In addition there are 4 projects U/C in Ørestad City; The school and library, Ceraco's residental with Irma and cafe at ground floor, some flats for elder people and the parking house.

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The site nearest Bjerget is sold to Sjælsø. There is one rendering available at Sjælsøs site:

http://www.sjaelsoe.dk/en/LeftMenu/Denmark/Commercial/Domicile-Opportunities/List/Orestad-E1/

However I doubt that this is the final design.

By&Havn still owns the last site which has a very great location next to the Bella Center Station. I think it is a matter of timing more than location that is the reason for this site not being sold. By&Havn has pushed the sale around Ørestad Station and Ørestad Syd instead of this area.

Besides these two sites there is still the huge site at Kay Fiskars Plads which KLP owns and where the theatre group Hotel ProForma initially wanted to build a theatre which was cancelled. There is a site between Bella Hus and Københavns Energi. Then there is the 4D project by Byparken and two smaller projects next to Horisonten and Det Flexible Hus.

That's seven sites - I may have forgotten some.

In addition there are 4 projects U/C in Ørestad City; The school and library, Ceraco's residental with Irma and cafe at ground floor, some flats for elder people and the parking house.

:thumps up: :)

So both of the remaining lots between Bella Hus and Bjerget > are for commercial useage only... Thanks

Knilaus, thanks for the information regarding KLP3. It is very good news that they want to change that design.

EDK, Don't be too sure that they will be used for commercial activities only. I think they will adapt to the market needs. We have already seen changes in Ørestad because of a changing market. Winghouse was initially a residential project but was changed to an office building when the market changed and recently Ceracos project "Domicilhuset" has been changed to the residential project "Puls".

Hopefully they will be able to mix the useage of the projects so we will see both offices and flats in the same buildings. This goes for KLP3 too by the way. But that is maybe to hope for too much.

"exciting" and "KHR Architects", two words that i serious doubt that i will ever use in the same sentence. :lol::lol:

"exciting" and "KHR Architects", two words that i serious doubt that i will ever use in the same sentence. :lol::lol:

Maybe we judge them too hard, The Ørestad Skole has potentiel to become a real winner, even that I in beginning meant it should have been located on the 4D site at Byparken.

Bilka in Field's has been deemed illegal by Østre Landsret but it will most likely get to stay anyway.

http://www.business.dk/detail/eksperter-ulovlig-bilka-bliver-i-fields

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If someone hvesn't seen it and are interested, here is a lengthy article from New York Magazine about his Manhattan project which also mentions Ørestad several times:

http://nymag.com/arts/architecture/features/71213/

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The pre-fabricated townhouses designed by Vandkunsten on the way in Ørestad Syd.


http://www.vandkunsten.com/public_site/webroot/cache/media/image/orestad_syd_news.jpg

Did anybody notice these Google Sketchup buildings (http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/cldetails?mid=baa526041dee4621680b39294e88d5dd&ct=mdcc) from Ørestad before?

Not me, so thanks for sharing and great job by Ricki R!

Ørestad & Bella tonight

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_x7Ya4Jbcebg/TWrGfaWD0VI/AAAAAAAAEWs/2ks4DXZbV1A/s1280/08-09%20012.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_x7Ya4Jbcebg/TWrGejr9BnI/AAAAAAAAEWo/voHdbhP60iI/s1280/08-09%20015.JPG

We don't really know Bogranskarna here in Denmark. It's a group of swedish architects that's paid by the newspaper Sydsvenskan to evaluate buildings and give their professional opinion about what they see.

As part of Sydsvenskans effort to reach out over the water to Denmark, and really put some action behind all the fuzzy talk about a cohesive Öresundsregion, they sent this small band of architects over the bridge to do some observations!

Regardless of my own reservations about the 8 house, I always thought that this building has what it takes to become an architectural icon. Just like Corbusier's Unité d'Habitation. However, estetics are not Bogranskarna's main concern, as seen by their review here:

http://www.sydsvenskan.se/bostad/article1357393/Oar-fortatning-och-bokaler.html
http://www.sydsvenskan.se/bostad/article888602/Liggande-attan-blir-%C3%98restads-Turning-torso.html


I den granskade lägenheten på 8-tallet fanns till exempel inte en enda garderob, det saknades entréhall och lägenheten hade bara en toalett trots två våningar. Det hade aldrig funkat i Sverige.

Energigranskaren Anna Kjellman förvånades över de låga energiambitionerna på andra sidan Sundet: Ytterväggarna är inte så tjockt isolerade. Och att man inte har någon värmeåtervinning i ventilationen är anmärkningsvärt, det är nästan en förutsättning för att klara svensk standard, sa Anna Kjellman.


The 8 house only get a 3 out of 5 by bogranskarna. That's one tough jury! But they sure raise some interesting questions. Why does the 8 house not have heat recycling? An why only one bathroom in a appartment with two floors? Why are there no proper storage room? An where is the hall?

As stated before, my personal view is that you got to get your "slave wife" to clean the appartment constantly, because even the tiniest amount filth will make the appartment look dirty and disorganised. The big panorama windows will leave no secrets unseen! And the lack of rooms gives no privacy for members of the family. Better chloroform the kids, so they don't disturb daddy! :)

The 8 house only get a 3 out of 5 by bogranskarna. That's one tough jury! But they sure raise some interesting questions. Why does the 8 house not have heat recycling? An why only one bathroom in a appartment with two floors? Why are there no proper storage room? An where is the hall?

As stated before, my personal view is that you got to get your "slave wife" to clean the appartment constantly, because even the tiniest amount filth will make the appartment look dirty and disorganised. The big panorama windows will leave no secrets unseen! And the lack of rooms gives no privacy for members of the family. Better chloroform the kids, so they don't disturb daddy! :)

I really like the design of the building, especially the layer cake principle and the vast amout of options it gives. However, I have visited about 30 flats in various parts the building and I must say that i found less than a handful of ones that I would like to live in, even tho they were very diffrent from each other design-wise.
Some of the fatal errors i encountered were for example a large service shaft in the kitchen between sink and stove (e.g. where you normally have the worktop), horrible welded steel staircases in the living room, that make a lot of noise (really a wrong place to save money), raised platforms (~1m high) in some rooms that cannot be used for anything, poor quality windows, just one bathroom in multi-storey flats, most bedrooms have sliding doors with a gap of ~5cm (sic!) between the door and wall, so no chance of privacy in the family^^.

It is easy to critisize, but I also admit that due to the level changes between each of the units, it is one of most complicated buildings, from an engineering point of view, that I have ever seen. But missing something as primary as heat recovery cannot simpy be accepted.

The design is unique and I agree, this building may become an icon. The problem is tho, how many people would like to live in a piece of art. :cheers:

The problem is allways the same. Most architects are designing from the outside in, and not from the inside out. The look of the building is more important than the quality of living.

The problem is allways the same. Most architects are designing from the outside in, and not from the inside out. The look of the building is more important than the quality of living.

The problem with the inside out thinking is that you get functionalistic buildings like those in the 60's, which where arguably ugly as sin but with high ambitions for the quality of living inside(compared to the slums they replaced). I'm guessing the balance is tipping the favour of aestethics right now when it really should be balanced.

I was on a tour with KF around the Bella Sky Hotel today. They are reaching
the deadline, part of the building is supposed to be delivered in just 17 days,
including the whole ground and first floor. A lot still remains to be done
though :nuts:

So here are the latest pics from the site ;)

http://i56.************/34qqrft.jpg

The sky bar:

http://i56.************/300786r.jpg

Sky bar:

http://i52.************/3534d9h.jpg

http://i51.************/slmq9e.jpg

Some amaizing views over Ørestad (only if it had been better weather)

http://i51.************/2vl5qnl.jpg

http://i53.************/1ta0xh.jpg

http://i55.************/2ljma7r.jpg

http://i54.************/28s0r6e.jpg

An average hotel room:

http://i51.************/2qnwbgw.jpg

The bathroom module:

http://i51.************/j6rbyo.jpg

http://i56.************/16j0kxw.jpg

The lobby:

http://i54.************/14nkcb8.jpg

http://i52.************/16k2s7r.jpg

^^ perfect Capo..but what is KF ?

^^ perfect Capo..but what is KF ?

Thanks! KF-konstruktørforeningen

Yes, thanks for the pictures. I have mixed feelings for this building due to the facade, but the shapes and height are great.

Yeah, thanks for the update, Kapo311. Like TMG, I also have mixed feelings about the building because of the face. I wish they had gone for something, that would make the buildings appear less heavy and massive.

As for this photo, it shows some of the problems in Ørestad - the lack of physical density:

http://i51.************/2vl5qnl.jpg

Parking lot fail!:ohno: Look at Malmö and Västra hamnen and all the cool parking houses they're constructing. A lot more effective utilizing of space than that^^!

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Yeah, I agree. And the park is to big or should at least be covered by much more trees or something to make more intimate spaces. At least they are building a parking house at the moment (all though it is on hold, since the entrepeneur went bankruptcy leaving it half finished), and as far as I know they are planning to plant trees. Don't know how many and were exactly, though. But I am affraid the parking lot in the photo is there to stay... If I had the power and the money, there are so many improvements I would love to do in Ørestad :D

And the park is to big or should at least be covered by much more trees or something to make more intimate spaces.

I think the park would be perfect for the creation of a café/cultural house pavillion - a venue remniscient of Kulturhuset Islands Brygge in Havneparken but built to a funky design and in quality materials. It could give the park and surroundings that "sense of place" I think it lacks right now, add a bit of dedeeming contrast to the decent but slightly boring and grey adhacent residential buildings, and in the same time give the locaks a place to meet. Good food and some live music in the summer time.

Would it disturb the surrounding apartments too much? If so, Ørestad has made up its mind and chosen not to be part of the city but to be a boring, sleepy suburb instead. And then I guess things should just be left the way they are and it is pointless to continue criticizing it for what it is. It makes no sense to insist on avoiding everything which makes a city lively (density and activity/noise) and in the same time to lament the lack of life.

^^

Then the big question is, if Ørestad has made up its mind? I don't think it has, but I am affraid the balance will tip in the wrong direction, unless something happens soon. Simply because there will always be opposition to change...

@ kapo311

Really nice pictures! :)

Sorry guys but I guess you are missing the point. Ørestad is not suppose to be like the rest of the city. Sure it would be nice with some more houses, but I live in Ørestad because I don't care for punks throwing up at my doorstep and graffiti all over the placering. I'm a conservative old fart with kids that hates when I can hear the neighbor. Besides we just had 100 trees planted so just wait come summer! :)

^^

You may be right, that I have missed the point about Ørestad, But it is not that I want Ørestad to be like the rest of the city. I want Ørestad to be part of the rest of the city, and not a suburb due to its location. I am against the idea of "integrating nature" into the city. It has been done over and over again, and it allways turns out as neither nature nor city, but suburb.

It is not that I am all against suburbs, because I know there is a demand for them*, but they should not be located so close to the city center. And we should keep the construction of suburbs to a minimum, so that our very small country does not turn into an area of urban sprawl with agriculture inbetween. We should keep a strong division between city/town, nature, and agriculture in my opinion.

* All though we should remember, that the demand is also partially determined by the supply - it is not only the other way around! And we should also remember that a lot of people, like myself, live in the suburbs for economical reasons more than for reasons of convenience.

Parking lot fail!:ohno: Look at Malmö and Västra hamnen and all the cool parking houses they're constructing. A lot more effective utilizing of space than that^^!

I have read somewhere, that plans exists for parking houses in Örestad. I just can't understand why it's taking so long to build them?

Malmö and Copenhagen are two very different animals when it comes to city planning. As a danish construction engineer I really admire the proffesionalism regarding planning I have found here in Malmö.

The photos are not brand new but do show some of the progress.

Still no work being done on the P-garage. :(

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_bHGWSAcjRSk/TXvAr44rYVI/AAAAAAAAAgY/BLgoFHEvdmQ/s1024/P270211_14.230001.JPG

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https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_bHGWSAcjRSk/TXvA4ElwfBI/AAAAAAAAAhA/rqwaShtnjqQ/s1024/P100311_18.140001.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_bHGWSAcjRSk/TXvA5BM1tMI/AAAAAAAAAhE/DaJoKy4nadE/s1024/P100311_18.150001.JPG

And surely a big thanks to Hafnia, Kapo and Never Give Up for previous photos! :okay:

Yes, thanks for all the pictures.

Cabinn Metro´s facade is still a fiasko, but the shape is okay. I think a paint over is the only thing which can save the building.

Thanks for the pictures to all of you and I agree with TMG. The facade of Cabinn is not that good looking.

Great update from Ørestad Kipple, and the scary photos from Bella Hotel Kapo 311.

I have not noticed this new building across the road from DRByen station before.
Anyone know what it is?

http://i53.************/nyagz7.jpg

^^
Daycare

^^, I think, it is a kindergarden.

Up date on the new school in Ørestad.

http://i51.************/152cmsw.jpg

and the new KUA campus buildings in Ørestad North

http://i56.************/2mdm7va.jpg

Hotel Cabinn looks good-- now if they would only get rid of that hideous sign...

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The first pics are from the the new AAB project for elderly people 50+ - ready in august.

Then there is a pic of the "greek" parking house, it reminds of the unfinished buildings you saw as a child on Rhodes and Crete and so on.

The yellow CAT caterpillar is digging a hole for the new PULS with the IRMA on the corner of Edv. Th. Vej and Arne Jacobsens Allé

Then the new cladding on Cab Inn

Fairway House has got the first renters.

Then the new Golf Club Facility seen from east and west.

Back and taking a look on the public school and library.

At last Bella Hotel, note the new entrance, at looks like they (Københavns Kommune etc.) have build a new road going through Bella Hotel.

My own comments.
Still some momentum in Ørestad C. next time I will include Ørestad S. with some new buildings U/C

Best Regards
Lars

Thank you very much Lars.

I have been looking forward to seeing your photos for the past month. :)

Great picture quality with the new camera!!

:) Thx. Lars_HH

Really nice update! :)

http://byoghavn.dk/da-DK/Presse/Nyheder/2011/nyhed.aspx?newsid={9B51F89F-6335-491B-BD47-370657DD771F}

Off topic maybe, but I saw in the Michelin guide for 2011, that Hotel Crowne Plaza has been given a highly recommandation :)

http://www.viamichelin.com/web/Hotels

Finally :cheers:

http://www.building-supply.dk/article/view/62008/ny_entreprenor_til_phus_i_orestaden

According to the latest Ørestad Avis the high school in Ørestad will increase the number of classes. From this summer 14 new classes will begin. It used to be 12 new classes a year. The classes are planned to use the new Ørestad School until it is filled up with school kids in around six years time. Will be interesting to see if they will expand physically with new buildings in that time.

The school will be delayed for five months though which means it will not open until January next year. Until then the high school is planning to rent some "class rooms" in some of the office buildings nearby.

NY HOVEDENTREPRENØR
VALGT PÅ P-HUS

Det bliver E. Pihl & Søn A.S. som skal færdiggøre parkeringshuset, der er under opførelse på Edvard Thomsens Vej i Ørestad. I dag bliver kontrakten underskrevet, og entreprenørfirmaet kan overtage byggeriet efter Davidsen Partnere A/S’s konkursbegæring. Takket være et lynudbud holder tidsplanen fortsat, og p-huset forventes færdigt sidst på året.

Byggeriet af det nye, store p-hus i Ørestad City på Edvard Thomsens Vej har stået stille siden starten af 2011, hvor entreprenøren Davidsen Partnere A/S indgav konkursbegæring. By & Havn opsagde kontrakten umiddelbart efter konkursbegæringen for at gennemføre et nyt hasteudbud. Hasteudbuddet er nu gennemført i løbet af godt to måneder, og det har ført til, at By & Havn i dag kan skrive kontrakt med E. Pihl & Søn A.S. om færdiggørelsen af p-huset.

”Til trods for den oprindelige entreprenørs konkursbegæring forventer vi stadig at kunne åbne p-huset sidst på året. Det er resultatet af en usædvanlig hurtig proces efter opsigelsen af kontrakten, og vi kan nu fortsætte opførelsen,” siger Hans Vasehus Madsen, havnebygmester og anlægschef i By & Havn og ansvarlig for bygningen af det nye p-hus.

”Pihl har opført en lang række større p-anlæg i København, både under og over jorden, blandt andet et p-hus ved Ørestad Gymnasium. Vi vil som altid gøre vores bedste for at aflevere byggeriet til tiden og glæder os til at fortsætte det gode samarbejde som vi allerede har med By & Havn i forbindelse med FN-Byens campus 1 og 2 på henholdsvis Marmormolen og Nordhavnen,” udtaler Halldór P. Ragnarsson, E. Pihl & Søn A.S.

P-huset kommer til at ligge i det tættest befolkede område i Ørestad City, klods op ad det nye 50+-byggeri, byggeriet Golf Park 2 og lige ved siden af kollegiet Signalhuset på Arne Jacobsens Allé.

Det nye p-hus i Ørestad vil blive ejet og drevet af By & Havn, ligesom det er tilfældet med bydelens øvrige to p-huse ved henholdsvis gymnasiet og i VM-Bjerget.

Fakta om det nye p-hus på Edward Thomsens Vej:

Grundplanet bliver ca. 35 x 80 meter i 10 etager
Op- og nedkørsel sker via cirkelformede ramper placeret inde i p-huset
p-huset bliver naturligt ventileret. Dermed spares der på energiforbruget i huset
P-huset vil få installeret LED-lys, der ligeledes er til gavn for miljøet
P-huset opføres som betonelement byggeri henover den eksisterende transformerstation
På terræn op ad den eksisterende transformerstation skal desuden bygges ca. 500 m2 parkeringskontor og lagerfaciliteter, som By & Havn selv skal anvende til drift og materiel
Facadebeklædningen bliver hvide, overfladebehandlede aluminiumsplader. Pladerne udstanses med to forskellige hul-størrelser. Udover at skabe et visuelt udtryk på facaden, vil udstansningen også sikre tilstrækkelig facadeåbning til en naturlig ventilation i huset

Pressekontakt:

Peter Presmann, By & Havn
E:. pep@byoghavn.dk
T: 3376 9800 / 2116 6847


http://www.byoghavn.dk/da-DK/Presse/Nyheder/2011/nyhed.aspx?newsid={DAF0621A-0FDE-4383-9994-AAF20698BFB5}

Slowly but surely! Now a flower shop in the 8-tallet (see By og Havn)

http://i53.************/6ehqxe.jpg

^^

About flowers?

Great photo update Lars.
Here is the brochure from what is now apparently known as Puls, (Irma house or kobberhus previously) in Ørestad City

http://mindpaper.mindworking.dk/View.aspx?GuidId=65a1d6e1-70ee-42ee-b3a6-01d3e0e1f087&MisUrl=http://mis16.mindworking.dk&MisSite=filernybolig&PDF=zsub_nybolig_dk/2550076.pdf

http://i51.************/awbbth.jpg

^^ @Ngu, are you selling flowers or apartments ?

^^ @Ngu, are you selling flowers or apartments ?

:lol: Niether, but we love making outings to Amager Fælled and Ørestad from our part of the town where we have everything.


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and a little development from RealDania as regards the Arena.

http://www.realdania.dk/Presse/Nyheder/2011/Multiarenamarkedstest050411.aspx

News regarding the multi-arena:

http://http://www.orestad.dk/da-DK/NyhederOgPresse/Nyhedsbreve/2011/nyhed.aspx?newsid={52FCA34F-DAC7-4B79-9400-3163BD65305F}

and

http://http://realdania.dk/Presse/Nyheder/2011/Multiarenamarkedstest050411.aspx

^^ I think the links are broken :ohno:

^^ I think the links are broken :ohno:

Try this:

http://www.orestad.dk/

Yeah, they were doubled with http:// sorry about that. :nuts:

http://www.orestad.dk/da-DK/NyhederOgPresse/Nyhedsbreve/2011/nyhed.aspx?newsid={52FCA34F-DAC7-4B79-9400-3163BD65305F}

and

http://realdania.dk/Presse/Nyheder/2011/Multiarenamarkedstest050411.aspx

^^

I couldn't find any renders or perhaps they arn't any yet?

http://rejser.guide.dk/Hotelferie/Danmark/Sikkerhed/Velv%C3%A6re/Brancheinfo/Hotel_forbyder_m%C3%A6nd__p%C3%A5_17_etage_2394063?rf=jp&referer=jp&aid=2394249&sid=917

A floor reserved for women

http://politiken.dk/turengaartil/rejsenyt/storbyogkultur/ECE1248131/nyt-dansk-hotel-faar-etage-kun-for-kvinder/?trackId=jp3

Development of Sivegaden http://www.orestad.dk/da-DK/NyhederOgPresse/Nyhedsbreve/2011/nyhed.aspx?newsid={0BEFDEBB-ED4B-4382-8B44-3460BCF51907}

Development of Sivegaden http://www.orestad.dk/da-DK/NyhederOgPresse/Nyhedsbreve/2011/nyhed.aspx?newsid={0BEFDEBB-ED4B-4382-8B44-3460BCF51907}

Article in Politiken - Ørestad søger inspiration på Nørrebro:

http://ibyen.dk/gadeplan/ECE1249716/oerestad-soeger-inspiration-paa-noerrebro/

http://multimedia.pol.dk/archive/00533/sivegaden_533932y.jpg

Sorry guys but I guess you are missing the point. Ørestad is not suppose to be like the rest of the city. Sure it would be nice with some more houses, but I live in Ørestad because I don't care for punks throwing up at my doorstep and graffiti all over the placering. I'm a conservative old fart with kids that hates when I can hear the neighbor. Besides we just had 100 trees planted so just wait come summer! :)

I guess things are not quite as black-and-white as that (but of course Ørestad is not suposed to be like the rest of the city, on one have ever claimed anything else and every part of town should have its own identity).:)

Article in Politiken - Ørestad søger inspiration på Nørrebro:

http://ibyen.dk/gadeplan/ECE1249716/oerestad-soeger-inspiration-paa-noerrebro/

http://multimedia.pol.dk/archive/00533/sivegaden_533932y.jpg



I guess things are not quite as black-and-white as that (but of course Ørestad is not suposed to be like the rest of the city, on one have ever claimed anything else and every part of town should have its own identity).:)

Well I am for sure packing up and leaving if Ørestad begins to resemble Nørrebro :)

Well I am for sure packing up and leaving if Ørestad begins to resemble Nørrebro :) :lol:

^^ I might take over the appartment, then ;)

Btw interesting news regarding the future development of Ørestad City. I attended the annual general meeting of the house-owners association for Ørestad City yesterday and after the formal meeting I had a chat with the representative from Steen and Strøm which operates Fields and she told me that they are currently working on the future expansion of the mall. The plan is that they hopefully can open the last stretch of the mall come fall 2013 and this includes a cinema! :) According to the representative we should be able to read some more specific about the whole thing in Ørestad Avis sometime next week.

Also the representative from By og Havn told me that Nordkranen is assuming responsibility for the vacant plot next to Ørestadshuset September 1st which hopefully means that they finally are moving on with the project.

^^ Did she mention anything about the facades? I've read somewhere, a while ago, that they're going to open up the facades towards Ørestads Boulevard and/or Arne Jacobsens Allé. I think it was in an interview with Jan Gehl or something...

Btw interesting news regarding the future development of Ørestad City. I attended the annual general meeting of the house-owners association for Ørestad City yesterday and after the formal meeting I had a chat with the representative from Steen and Strøm which operates Fields and she told me that they are currently working on the future expansion of the mall. The plan is that they hopefully can open the last stretch of the mall come fall 2013 and this includes a cinema! :) According to the representative we should be able to read some more specific about the whole thing in Ørestad Avis sometime next week.

Also the representative from By og Havn told me that Nordkranen is assuming responsibility for the vacant plot next to Ørestadshuset September 1st which hopefully means that they finally are moving on with the project.

This is just excellent news - thanks for sharing Moebius

^^ Very good news. ( if they're reliable :))

Do you Ørestads citizens think a cinema will be able to survive out there, I mean, it's not excactly filled up with people in the city at night time ? haven't we touch this matter before ? :nuts:

and the site next to Ørestadshuset, the 4D project ? the impression of Nordkranen is that they have good ideas and projects, but doesn't seems to have the abillity to realize them, due the lack of money or financing. Hopefully i'm wrong again.

But again, wonderfull if we'll see the last empty site filled with cranes.

^^ Did she mention anything about the facades? I've read somewhere, a while ago, that they're going to open up the facades towards Ørestads Boulevard and/or Arne Jacobsens Allé. I think it was in an interview with Jan Gehl or something...

Yep, she did in fact mention the facade primarily with regards to Ørestad Boulevard since it is too complicated (unfortunately!) to open up along Arne Jacobsen Allé. I was actually pretty surprised by how frank she was about the whole facade ordeal. It looks like at least somebody within Steen and Strøm is working towards amending the initial damage caused by the boxy design of Fields.

^^ Very good news. ( if they're reliable :))

Do you Ørestads citizens think a cinema will be able to survive out there, I mean, it's not excactly filled up with people in the city at night time ? haven't we touch this matter before ? :nuts:

and the site next to Ørestadshuset, the 4D project ? the impression of Nordkranen is that they have good ideas and projects, but doesn't seems to have the abillity to realize them, due the lack of money or financing. Hopefully i'm wrong again.

But again, wonderfull if we'll see the last empty site filled with cranes.

Can't say anything with regards to reliability but the cinema is of cause not only meant to serve the people living in Ørestad City. The whole of Amager is just around the corner as well as people living on Vestegnen (crossing the bridge from Hvidovre to Ørestad City takes less than 10min) so I definitely think that there is enough people around to sustain a multiplex.

With regards to 4D and Nordkranen: I share your lack of optimism and please be advised that although Nordkranen is scheduled to take over the formal responsibility for the plot does not automatically entail that they will start construction...although that would be truly great news!

http://ibyen.dk/gadeplan/ECE1253186/eftertragtet-groenthandler-aabner-i-oerestad/

iBYEN.dk | 13.04.2011 | 471 ord | artikel-id: e2a186bb
Eftertragtet grønthandler åbner i Ørestad

'Din baghave' åbner sin tredje filial på Ørestad Station til maj.

Nu får Ørestad også en filial af den særlige gourmet-grønthandler 'Din Baghave'.

Både Østerbro og Vesterbro har allerede filialer af storbygårdbutikken 'Din Baghave', som har været omtalt i så godt som alle landsdækkende aviser og madmagasiner og modtaget et æresdiplom fra Det Danske Gastronomiske Akademi.



Kålrabi og bøgehatte

For her finder man ikke hårde spanske tomater, hollandske agurker i plastiksvøb eller æbler med et tykt vokslag. Din Baghave har i stedet specialiseret sig i sæsonvarer fra en række af landets bedste grønt- og frugtavlere som Søren Wiuff og Kiselgården, der normalt ellers kun leverer varer til toprestauranter som Noma og Geranium.

Derfor er der også meget andet end kartofler, gulerødder og porrer på hylderne. For eksempel ramsløg, gåsefod, kålrabi, ræddiker, bøgehatte og meget andet - når det ellers er i sæson.



Kontrast til Fields

Den kommende filial, der også vil handle med frisk kål, rababermost og nyslynget honning, kommer til at ligge i skarp kontrast til sine omgivelser med en placering på Ørestad Station klos op af shoppingcentret Fields.

»Jeg bor her selv, og der mangler jo noget, kunne jeg se, da jeg flyttede hertil fra Christianshavn«, fortæller indehaver Mette Helbæk.

»Det er et godt sted for en grønthandler, for det er et travlt trafikknudepunkt med metro, tog og folk, der skal i Fields og arbejder i området. Der er rigtigt, rigtigt mange mennesker på alle tider af døgnet«.



Venter på asparges

»Vi har haft en sindsyg hård vinter i år, så vi trænger rigtigt meget til friske råvarer. Men snart kommer der asparges, og det er en af de første forårsbebudere, og jeg vil ikke åbne, før jeg har noget spændende at byde på«.

Og Mette Helbæk tøver ikke med at udnævne Søren Wiuffs Lammefjords-asparges som nogle af verdens bedste.

»De koster mere end dem, der er blevet fløjet ind sydfra, selv for mig i indkøb. Til gengæld er kvaliteten også uhørt meget højere. De forhandles ikke andre steder til private end hos os og hos Søren selv«, fortæller hun.



Kok passer stadet

Mette Helbæk er selv på barsel og har derfor ansat Jakob Topgård, som blandt andet har været restaurantchef på den nu lukkede Bottega til at betjene gourmet-grønthandlen.

»Jeg ansætter kun folk, som enten er kokke eller på anden måde går op i mad, så kunderne kan blive hjulpet på vej«, siger hun.

Der er forpremiere på Amager-stadet i weekenden 30. april-1. maj kl. 10-16. Det foregår i en haveforening på Ugandavej 125 i Kastrup, hvor Mette Helbæk selv bor. Her vil være smagsprøver, flere af Din Baghaves leverandører kigger forbi, og så kan man selvfølgelig købe grøntsager.

Din Baghave på Ørestad Station vil have åbent frem til oktober.



Se også

Gourmetgrønt. Mette Helbæk vil have Amager med på den nordiske gastronomibølge og åbner sin tredje filial af grønthandlen Din Baghave på Ørestad Station til maj..

http://ibyen.dk/gadeplan/ECE1253186/eftertragtet-groenthandler-aabner-i-oerestad/

That is SO cool!

An interesting and skuptural "arrangement" in the extension of the canal up to Metropolis building at Islands Brygge metro station.
I saw that Brugsen were about to open a new convenience store (supermarket) in the other end of Metropolis. All we need now is a café in the middle with outdoor serving,water in the basin and the "Rambla" into the KUA Campus, to complete the picture.

http://i55.************/vmpqoy.jpg

http://i52.************/2rctnxs.jpg

http://ibyen.dk/gadeplan/ECE1253186/eftertragtet-groenthandler-aabner-i-oerestad/

What is a post about a new greengrocer doing in a forum about architecture?!

^^ It is also a forum about urban development, and as such it is relevant, when we are talking about Ørestad.

^^ It is also a forum about urban development, and as such it is relevant, when we are talking about Ørestad.

Yeah I know that. But it is quickly getting boring to hear about. We have had tons of updates about cafés and shops that open and other that closes in Örestad - and so what? I could understand it when Örestad was fresh and new - but that's almost 10 years ago!

I don't know - The Örestad thread is almost becoming famous for it's overly intense coverage of what's happening on the café and shopping scene. I have never witnessed such obsession in the Copenhagen thread, noor in the Malmö thread, for that matter.

The closest thread that resembles this one, is the Malmö thread with it's two developments in Västra Hamnen and Hyllie. Even though urbanity is important, the discussion there does not regress to simple news feed style updates about what new "pressbyrån" have opened where.

Discussing urbanity is fine, but let's put the focus on something more than just - hey a new greengrocer is comming to town. What I would do was to extend the story and talk about the green profile and how it affects the locavore's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Locavore) in Örestad. While we wait for more development, then why not use the land for Urban gardens, beekeeping, live animals what ever? Green Urbanism and local produce in a green setting.

http://i.imgur.com/b2sFC.jpg
www.flickr.com/photos/stopdown/3998963837/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/stopdown/3998963837/)

I find your arguments valid, but I guess there is not an agreement on what is interesting news, and what is not. Maybe a separate thread for these minor Cph urban development news could be useful?

^^ @ Markowitch,

I understand your frustration, but I think you have to accept that the members write about what they think can have relevance for the thread. And they do a honest try to keep it alive, since the activities has been downward, than in the golden days in 04-09, there's simply less to write about now adays.
A new town like Ørestad with appr. 7000 inhabitants after the big construction boom, is in reality maybe not big enough for a thread of its own.

But I think you should take the lead, and show us all, in what direction this thread should go. :poke:, inspiration is always good thing.

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Hi Guys, first of all i'm sorry if i'm posting to many informations regarding Ørestad. Maybe I am in the wrong thread or forum, I saw - and still see - this forum as a part of an ongoing process in describing the developments in Ørestad. Personally I find even the smallest stories interesting because it says something about the process of building a new city in itself - like this one beneath.

Nordea overvejer fortsat hovedsæde-placering i Ørestaden
Af KASPER KRONENBERG
Offentliggjort 18.04.11 kl. 11:00
Nordea siger, at der ikke er truffet en endelig beslutning om, hvor bankens danske hovedsæde skal være. På flere interne møder er det dog meldt ud, at man forventer at rykke til Ørestaden. (Opdateret 11.07)
Nordea Christianshavn hovedkvarter

Foto: Lorenzen Søren Jyllands-Posten

Det er fortsat uklart, om Nordea gør alvor af overvejelserne om at rykke fra det nuværende hovedsæde i Christianshavn til et nyt hovedsæde i Ørestaden.

Flere kilder fortæller til FinansWatch, at det er meldt ud på interne møder i banken, at man forventer at flytte hovedsædet til Ørestaden i løbet af de næste 3-4 år, men at de endelige operationelle køreplaner for en flytning ikke er på plads. Det nye hovedsæde skulle ligge tæt på Fields og det forventes, at Nordea Markets bliver den første afdeling, der flytter. Der er dog en række udfordringer i forhold til at rykke netop Markets, fordi den afdeling er ekstrem afhængig af at være online 24 timer i døgnet, derfor kan en løsning blive, at Markets rykker derud i flere etaper, så banken er sikker på, at den kan servicere sine kunder uden problemer på IT-fronten i forbindelse med en flytning.

Fra officiel hold i Nordea er meldingen fra pressechef Claus Christensen, at "der er ikke truffet en beslutning omkring det fremtidige hovedsædes placering".

Men kan du bekræfte, at flytte-overvejelserne drejer sig om et nyt hovedsæde i Ørestaden?

"Vi har ikke yderligere kommentarer," siger Claus Christensen.

Udfordringen for Nordea er, at det Henning Larsen-tegnede hovedsæde er ved at blive for småt til den ekspansive storbank. Nordea har svært ved at finde ledige kvadratmeter i hovedsædet og må derfor i mange tilfælde placere medarbejdere og mindre afdelinger rundt omkring på andre Nordea-adresser i København, selvom det optimale ville være, at de fik fast sæde i hovedsædet på Christianshavn.

Nordea har en lang kontrakt med ATP Ejendomme, hvorfor det kan vise sig at blive dyrt, hvis banken beslutter sig for at forlade den nuværende lokation.

Hi Guys, first of all i'm sorry of i'm posting to many informations regarding Ørestad.

I think it is safe to say that the general opinion in here is that you are not. Your contributions are very welcome.

If someone finds a post uninteresting or irrelevant every now and then, it shouldn't be too hard to ignore it. And if not, they will take the thread more off the topic than the post they didn't like did in the first place. And as long as there isn't more new constructions to write about than there is, the thread just benefits from a bit of activity imo.

A Nordea move to Ørestad would be great. Also because the attension of their Nordea Foundation would be likely to come along as a bonus.

Hi Guys, first of all i'm sorry if i'm posting to many informations regarding Ørestad.

Lars don't take it the wrong way. I find you enthusiasm quite welcome here and the thread would not be the same without you. What I was looking for was perhaps a bit more "meat" on the bone - so to say. Putting things in a wider perspective with regard to urban live.

It is no secret that people who live in Örestad at times feel a need to defend themselves against many comments about the lack of "life". The "ugly" architecture or the "boring" city layout. The public debate about Örestad is in a way very inconsiderate and at times even hurtful to the people that have decided to live there!

I haven't given this much thought, but perhaps all these postings about cafés and shops that opens or closes in Örestad, is a way to tell others that things actually do happen in the new city. That popular conventional wisdom is wrong and it is a place where one can thrive. In that context I can very well understand the kind of quirky small updates about various small events from daily live, that we don't see to the same extend in other threads.

Progress with Vilhelm Lauritzens "aleme" housing in Ørestad Syd. (8 Tallet in the background and Stævnen to the left)

http://i53.************/30ro3gx.jpg

and progress with the terrace houses by Vandkunsten west of 8 tallet. (First part of Lake City project)

http://i54.************/345l9nl.jpg

The new school and library is more or less up in full height now and fills the gap at the end of Arne Jacobsens Allé very nicely.

http://i53.************/2ch2wyt.jpg

and seen from the other side. Remember there is a canal under the site cabins.
I bet this will be one of the most sought after schools in the city.

http://i52.************/2r59p3l.jpg

Don't know if this is old news, but have anyone seen this before?

http://www.sjaelsoe.dk/PageFiles/8262/A3_prospekt_E1.pdf

It is the prospect for the Sjælsø project next to VM Bjerget at Ørestad Blvd (disregard the Ørestad Syd headline typo :)). Looks nice, particuarly with the open front. Makes it appear less "boxy".

Aim1 did it again!
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5266/5648888428_0847dece7c_b.jpg

^^Very nice! Makes it much easier to spot the quality of the facade design!

Don't know if this is old news, but have anyone seen this before?

http://www.sjaelsoe.dk/PageFiles/8262/A3_prospekt_E1.pdf

It is the prospect for the Sjælsø project next to VM Bjerget at Ørestad Blvd (disregard the Ørestad Syd headline typo :)). Looks nice, particuarly with the open front. Makes it appear less "boxy".

Never seen it before - thanks Moebius!

^^
Greaaat photos from Ngu and Aim 1 :), the school looks very interesting.

Yes thanks for the images, great as always.

Does anyone know something about a Realdania-supported "parallelopdrag" about improved integration of Ørestad City and Syd which is going on currently?

Wonderful photos!

Is this Copenhagen's largest business area?
I found it interesting in Paris that even though the famous Défense area has the skyscrapers, the traditional business area just north of the Opera and the Champs Elysées still has the most office space. Is something like that the case for Copenhagen?

Wonderful photos!

Is this Copenhagen's largest business area?
I found it interesting in Paris that even though the famous Défense area has the skyscrapers, the traditional business area just north of the Opera and the Champs Elysées still has the most office space. Is something like that the case for Copenhagen?

Yes indeed, there is almost nothing in Ørestad right now compared to the center of Copenhagen. But almost 80.000 people will work in Ørestad when it's fully developed.

^^Sorry for my ignorance, but when is that?:)

^^Sorry for my ignorance, but when is that?:)
2020-2025?

At best fingers crossed, or realisticly? :P

2 hotels on Amager.

The Cabinn Metro hotel in Ørestad City where the artistic decoration on the facade is almost finished.

http://i51.************/22m3yr.jpg

and the Bella Sky hotel, from a slightly different angle than we are accustomed to.
This is the main entrance and the hotel opens in less than 3 weeks.

http://i54.************/244p6kp.jpg

Thank you Hattemand and others :)

More residentials in the south.

http://www.building-supply.dk/article/view/63032/aab_vil_bygge_83_boliger_i_orestad_syd

Field's. Ny Amager-biograf på vej
TELEGRAMMER

ØRESTAD : 25 år efter at Amager Bio lukkede som biograf, er en ny biograf på tegnebrættet -denne gang i forbindelse med shoppingcentret Field's. Det tyder alt på efter, at Københavns Kommunes økonomiudvalg har godkendt en ansøgning fra ejerne af Field's, der har ambitioner om at udbygge med tre nye store butikker og en biograf. Kommunen lægger vægt på, at udbygningen skal bidrage til at forbedre byrummet omkring Field's, så centret i fremtiden får mere liv om aftenen og får et samspil med det øvrige Ørestad.

^^ Good news - especially the last sentence.

Thanks to NGU, Aim1 and others for great photo updates.

http://i53.************/30ro3gx.jpg

The photo above from NGU gives me associations to "Tobaksarbejderens drøm" in Holstebro: http://www.hanskrull.dk/skulptur.html

Hi Lars,

Great news as always from your side.

What's your source?

Hi Lars,

Great news as always from your side.

What's your source?

It's from Amagerbladet, guees it's Field's part 2 that is underway. I hope they will stick to the Liebskind-plan.

It's from Amagerbladet, guees it's Field's part 2 that is underway. I hope they will stick to the Liebskind-plan.

Is the ekspansion of fields part of the Liebskind plan? Thought it was only the NCC part of downtown.

^^

Yes, Liebeskind's plan also includes the site of Fields 2. The main idea of his plan for Fields is to open up the southern facade and create a gallery with a glass roof on the stretch from Field's main entrance at Kay Fiskars Plads down to the NCC site.

^^ It looks like we can expect specific good news for Ørestad in the nearest future. New cinemas, better urban spaces around Field's, and maybe the best one, if Nordea will unite all their activities in a headquarter that maybe even could be a tall one. What about Fosters tower next to the Crown Plaza Hotel ?

Very good news lately, Lars

^^

Yes, Liebeskind's plan also includes the site of Fields 2. The main idea of his plan for Fields is to open up the southern facade and create a gallery with a glass roof on the stretch from Field's main entrance at Kay Fiskars Plads down to the NCC site.

This is probably a suitable moment to re-post a photo of the model of Liebeskinds plan. The cinema complex is in the bottom left hand corner by the stations and the Cabinn hotel at the top right hand corner.
I have heard that there is talk of an extra access to the western end of the main line platforms from the new "street" This would improve accessability to the area.

http://i55.************/334p5b7.jpg

The competition "Byrum for livet" was launched yesterday with an event next to Foodshop 55 in the Mountain Dwellings yesterday. The competition includes a plan for "Sivegaden" which is the stretch from Arne Jacobsens Alle to Vejlands Alle along the metro. It includes the sivegade itself, the canal and the green area below the metroline. The budget for the project is 5 million kroner and is expected to be carried out in three phases. The first phase is expected to be finished next year.

The competition is open to everyone and the deadline is the 25th of May. How about some projects from the forumers.

The program for the competition can be found here:

http://www.orestad.dk/da-DK/Indhold/Omrader/City/Sivegaden.aspx

8 House and Bjarke Ingels on ABU DHABI AL OULA CHANNEL 1

http://www.adtv.ae/catchup.php?videoid=870271026001

Or if your Portuguese is better, try this Brazillian interview:

http://gnt.globo.com/nostrinques/Videos/_1484181.shtml?utm_source=compartilhado&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=tv

So the story turned out to be true which is great. Can't wait. Just hope that I will be Nordisk Film that ends up operating it as I like their concept the most.

http://www.amager.net/orestad/fields-vil-bygge-biograf-naeste-ar

Field’s har fået tilladelse til at udvide med en biograf og tre nye butikker

• Ejeren af Field’s, Steen & Strøm A/S, arbejder intenst på et biografprojekt i Field’s, som hvis alt går vel kan åbne ultimo 2013. Biografen skal bygges ved hovedindgangen ud til Ørestad Station og have indgang fra Plan 2.

I maj måned ventes Borgerrepræsentationen at godkende et tillæg til kommuneplanen, som giver Field’s lov til at udvide med en biograf og tre nye udsalgsvarebutikker på op til 5000 kvadratmeter hver.

”Vi arbejder intenst med biografprojektet, og håber at kunne gå igang med byggeriet i 2012. Men først skal vi have lavet en detaljeret byggeansøgning, og det samarbejder vi tæt med Københavns Kommune om”, siger centermanager Lotte E. Andersen fra Steen & Strøm.

Hun oplyser, at biografen bliver en stor premierebiograf med flere sale og moderne biografteknik.

Tilladelsen til at bygge tre store butikker er Steen & Strøm desuden parate til at bygge butikkerne og danne et åbent strøg på sydsiden af Field’s. Udvidelsen skal hænge sammen med udbygningen af Ørestad Downtown vest for Field’s. Men allerede nu er der interesserede lejere.

”Vi har interesserede butikslejere, både eksisterende lejere i Field’s og andre butikker udefra. Derfor forventer vi at søge om byggetilladelse til én af disse butikker inden jul.” siger Lotte E. Andersen.

The public school next to the gymnasium and the black wing house in the background.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_x7Ya4Jbcebg/TbwXtBAwb8I/AAAAAAAAEkU/DFllciptIMk/s1024/012.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_x7Ya4Jbcebg/TbwXrJ9tCjI/AAAAAAAAEkQ/2zBFU2PLuJU/s1152/010.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_x7Ya4Jbcebg/TbwXydv2cLI/AAAAAAAAEkk/yJ2zXdfLWD0/s1152/016.JPG

The construction of the parking house rolling again.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_x7Ya4Jbcebg/TbwXwi_njpI/AAAAAAAAEkg/PRIhcHKkgY4/s1024/015.JPG

Topping out at the Ørestad School, SFO and the library.

http://www.building-supply.dk/article/view/63509/rejsegilde_pa_ny_folkeskole_i_orestaden

"Erhvervsbladet | 05.05.2011 | 1. sektion | Side 17 | 73 ord | artikel-id: e2a9b587
Millionbyggeri i Ørestad

BOLIGER. Boligselskabet AAB vil opføre 83 lejligheder på tilsammen knap 8.300 kvadratmeter i den sydlige del af Ørestad , hovedstadens nye bydel. Budgettet er 83 millioner kroner uden moms, og projektet er netop sendt i udbud som totalentreprise.

Forventningen er at prækvalificere fem hold til at byde på opgaven.

Udbudsformen med totalentreprise er normalt en ulempe for små og mellemstore byggefirmaer, der ofte foretrækker, at projekter bliver opdelt i flere mindre fagentrepriser. hegg. "

The Club House of Royal Golf Club will offifially open on sunday. Work is still in progress both on the outside and inside but they are getting there :-)

Here's a few pics from the inside of the house - more will follow when the rest is open:

The Locker room:
http://i54.************/2j5crhw.jpg

More locker room:
http://i54.************/2hrdcts.jpg

"Poker room":
http://i54.************/xp6mmc.jpg

Baglocker room:
http://i56.************/mcru4p.jpg

Clubhouse seen from 18th fairway:
http://i51.************/9htob8.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_x7Ya4Jbcebg/TbwXydv2cLI/AAAAAAAAEkk/yJ2zXdfLWD0/s1152/016.JPG



Nice picture. Does the channel stop where the black Golf stands?

Nice picture. Does the channel stop where the black Golf stands?

Nope, after the school :)

Another parking-building, this time at Stævnen in Ørestad Syd.

http://www.orestad.dk/da-DK/NyhederOgPresse/Nyhedsbreve/2011/nyhed.aspx?newsid={21502040-9783-4D1C-922B-A2516B8E637F}

http://www.orestad.dk/da-DK/NyhederOgPresse/Nyhedsbreve/2011/~/media/News/Parkeringsoversigt480.ashx?w=480&h=679&as=1

Sorry, but you are building way too many parking garages out there imho. Four so close to each other. Do you really need that?

The Club House of Royal Golf Club will offifially open on sunday. Work is still in progress both on the outside and inside but they are getting there :-)

Here's a few pics from the inside of the house - more will follow when the rest is open:


Thanks Nicolai, is it open for the public?

Have you've seen this press release?

http://www.byoghavn.dk/da-DK/Presse/Nyheder/2011/nyhed.aspx?newsid={AF4653CA-5CEE-4C64-B92B-F9AC6893543F} (http://www.byoghavn.dk/da-DK/Presse/Nyheder/2011/nyhed.aspx?newsid={AF4653CA-5CEE-4C64-B92B-F9AC6893543F})

Sorry, but you are building way too many parking garages out there imho. Four so close to each other. Do you really need that?

There is only one, the other ones are not there permantly.

Are you sure? Do you know what will replace them then?

Thanks Nicolai, is it open for the public?


Yes, it is open to the public (except for the few "members only" areas).
Everything is as far as I know open from this day... also the restaurant which seem good and fair priced (it is managed by the same guy as "Kareten").

Also Fysiq is open from today.

Of all things I forgot my camera yesterday :weird: so I only have a few low quality pics taken with the phone camera.... anyway here it goes:

Members lounge:
http://i55.************/2a9qs01.jpg

The Balcony:
http://i52.************/33jlcab.jpg

View from the balcony:
http://i53.************/34exi6r.jpg

Meeting room:
http://i53.************/w846ye.jpg

Upper floor:
http://i56.************/2en0rc0.jpg

more pictures from the opening: http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.215170361846186.66167.130997603596796&closeTheater=1

Sorry, but you are building way too many parking garages out there imho. Four so close to each other. Do you really need that?

If they want people to move and live THAT isolated from the city they have to...

The same price of a condo out in that grass field can buy you a fairly large house just a km away and the area being pretty remote one pretty much needs a car or going anywhere will take forever..

If they want people to move and live THAT isolated from the city they have to...

The same price of a condo out in that grass field can buy you a fairly large house just a km away and the area being pretty remote one pretty much needs a car or going anywhere will take forever..

Well, except for having the metro and the train just ourside the door.... and biking to the city center from there is not exactly a big thing.

Are you sure? Do you know what will replace them then?

Yes they are temporary and will be replaced by a mix of different buildings.

If they want people to move and live THAT isolated from the city they have to...

The same price of a condo out in that grass field can buy you a fairly large house just a km away and the area being pretty remote one pretty much needs a car or going anywhere will take forever..

:ohno::nuts:

If they want people to move and live THAT isolated from the city they have to...

The same price of a condo out in that grass field can buy you a fairly large house just a km away and the area being pretty remote one pretty much needs a car or going anywhere will take forever..

Ha ha, great trolling FREKI. It's just getting a little old... :)

^not trolling - the need for parking spaces is because everything IS missing in Ørestad Syd ( and to a large degree in Ørestad proper too.. )

It's not even a week ago I was by Ørestad Syd and it's still nothing but a few buildings right in the middle of nowhere.. well there is grass, dirt and construction equipment but that's also that..

Sure there's a Metro station, but how far will that go for the people who are going to live there - the price level is not exactly low so it's not the factory workers and bike-delivery folks moving in there.. and when it comes down to it very little in terms of big time offices ( nor most other things ) is along the routes of the Metro - hence the need for a car.. and there is nothing wrong in that.. there's sure in heck not many who's going to bike to town from there - the place is windy as heck, even on warm summer days and we sadly live in a country where there aren't too many of those..

That part of Amager has been suburban for decades for a long time and for good reason and Ørestad itself was put there due to the freeway it's literally being build on top of.. cars are an important part of the city and society we have, it's fast, comfortable and private transportation often way cheaper than what Movia can offer..

So let's not try to present the area or the Danish way of life as something it isn't - there's a need for all the parking if they have any interest in actually getting people out to live there is the small oasis of urbanity is the sea of grass and dirt.. unlike the rest of urban Copenhagen walking down to the supermarket on the corner is not an option - unless of course you get off hiking cross country with bags from Bilka :)

Ørestaden Syd seen from Ørestaden...
http://i55.************/29eqf52.png


Reality is that if they want people who opt for an apartment rather than a house ( that btw are cheaper in this case ) they need to provide the ability to have and park a car - the suits are not going to spend a hour getting to work using 3 trains and the hipsters no matter how bike crazy they are are not going to bike 20km daily trough the windy Fællen to get to their studios..

Like the suburbs when you move away from the city you make a choice and if you don't want to suffer from that choice you get a car and the freedom it gives you and the developers knows this, hence all the parking

PS don't get me wrong guys - I have nothing against Ørestaden nor Ørestaden Syd, in fact it's one of the places I have the highest hopes for - but we have to accept it for what it is, what it offers and what needs people have.. it IS an isolated spot in a large field so of course it's going to need parking just like every other similar isolated area..
Well, except for having the metro and the train just ourside the door.... and biking to the city center from there is not exactly a big thing.When was the last time you biked around Fællen? It's a pretty windy place and not especially nice on cold or wet days..

( and Ørestad Syd is btw 8km+ from the center that's as far out as Søborg or Husum )

When was the last time you biked around Fællen? It's a pretty windy place and not especially nice on cold or wet days..


Well.... this morning.... and yesterday morning/evening... and the day before that :)

Actually I bike to work, friends, family and sport activities allmost all the time (and I'm not considering myself to be bike-crazy).

I do understand what you mean though, of course there is a need for parking even though you can use a bike or the Metro, and I do have a car myself too - but I'm not using it that much.

You have a lot of good points but also a few things that are not right. The price level is very mixed in Ørestad and espicially in Ørestad Syd. You can find expensive appartments in both Stævnen and 8-Tallet but at the same time you can probably find some of Copenhagens cheepest appartments in 8-Tallet. And "rækkehusene" next to 8-Tallet are also fair priced.... You won't find many houses at that level i think ;)

http://pleasure.dk/design/artikel/207416/megahotel_fejrer_aabning_med_egne_dollarsedler.html

:bash: The thread for cafés and new shops.

Here comes another one: COOP opened yesterday in Ørestad nord, and it actually looks quite cool in Metropolen.

http://www.orestad.dk/da-DK/NyhederOgPresse/Nyhedsbreve/2011/nyhed.aspx?newsid={7E134152-C8EE-4D43-BB31-26EF322538BC}

http://www.orestad.dk/da-DK/NyhederOgPresse/Nyhedsbreve/2011/~/media/News/coop3.ashx?w=480&h=720&as=1

http://ibyen.dk/gadeplan/ECE1253186/eftertragtet-groenthandler-aabner-i-oerestad/

Remember the post about the organic greengrocer that was opening in Örestad? Apparently the greengrocer gave up after two weeks because of the wind at Örestad station.

http://ibyen.dk/gadeplan/article1283781.ece

The owner, Mette Helbæk is quoted for saying that the wind at Örestad Station is very strong because of the tall buildings, which is not good for the produce. "All the gray concrete is dull and sad, and it sucks the life out of everything", she says.

It's hard words, but from an urban perspective something should be done about the wind, to create a more pleasant environment. Here's a picture of the organic greengrocer, that made headlines in this thread a couple of weeks ago.

http://i.imgur.com/tXNKS.jpg