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Blue Viking June 13th, 2007, 05:28 PM I've always associated the WTC "brand" with boring, unimaginative architecture located far from the city centre but close to the airport and filled with office hotels but completely devoid of any real life. My reference is the WTC in Bruxelles (http://www.brussels.wtc.be/V2005/EN/index.html) mostly but I notice that the UK for example has World Trade Centres in such 'prominent' cities as Hull and Cardiff.. hardly cities with which we would want Copenhagen to be compared, eh? (no offense)
To me the WTC concept symbolises the McDonaldisation of urbanism. Why would a city that prides itself on being a unique metropolis want to import a pre-cooked, shrink-wrapped concept when it can instead promote itself for unique solutions adapted to the unique circumstances of the metropolis in question?!
The answer is diversity! I understand your point, but a major city should offer a lot of different opportunities, including the more bland ones. I would also be VERY disappointed, if Copenhagen couldn't have any McDonalds!!
In fact it is the same argument FOR skyscrapers. The Nimbys say that Copenhagen would loose it's unique character if someone builds something taller than 5 stories. I say there should be room for everyone in Copenhagen, including people who want to live in skyscrapers. I also sometimes say, move the nimbys to Greenland, but that's another story :)
Technically speaking it is located in Ørestad Syd!
Actually it is located in the southern part of Ørestad City ;)
safta20 June 14th, 2007, 09:49 AM The answer is diversity! I understand your point, but a major city should offer a lot of different opportunities, including the more bland ones. I would also be VERY disappointed, if Copenhagen couldn't have any McDonalds!!
In fact it is the same argument FOR skyscrapers. The Nimbys say that Copenhagen would loose it's unique character if someone builds something taller than 5 stories. I say there should be room for everyone in Copenhagen, including people who want to live in skyscrapers. I also sometimes say, move the nimbys to Greenland, but that's another story :)
Totally agree. Therefore I hope that Copenhagen conserve the old and unique parts of the city and build new modern architecture in other parts of the city! In a city like Copenhagen one should find all kinds of city landscapes!
knilaus June 15th, 2007, 01:11 PM ..
Hviid June 15th, 2007, 06:29 PM Great photos! Thanks for posting! :cheers2:
cphdude June 15th, 2007, 07:57 PM Amazing to see all this activety out there....I dont supose you have a rendering of how Stævnen will look like when completed? And when are you planing on moving in?
edit - I think I found the vid from lorry on it here... http://www.tv2lorry.dk/moduler/nyheder/showregvideo.asp?dato=07-06-2007&cID=1&vId=368236
andreas01 June 17th, 2007, 12:23 PM Anyone know when the ørestad downtown projekt will start? Looking forward to see some activity out there :)
Urbanus June 17th, 2007, 10:02 PM The Cab Inn Hotel is supose to start the autumn - the rest depend on when someone will rent it.
andreas01 June 18th, 2007, 07:24 PM The Cab Inn Hotel is supose to start the autumn - the rest depend on when someone will rent it.
Thanks for the information ;)
Anyone know how many meters/floors it's going to be? It dosen't look very tall on the rendering.
knilaus June 18th, 2007, 09:05 PM ..
Plogger June 18th, 2007, 09:18 PM I read somewhere that the Cab inn hotel should reach 15 floors, and according to the local plan the height of the southern part of the hotel should be 46m.
knilaus June 19th, 2007, 01:27 PM ..
knilaus June 19th, 2007, 01:40 PM ..
Blue Viking June 19th, 2007, 06:00 PM ^^ :)
Well, it's all very confusing, and in this case I would say we are both right. The area south of the motorway is included in the local plan for Ørestad city from 2000: http://www.planogarkitektur.kk.dk/upload/pdf-lokalplaner/325.pdf
AND in the local plan for Ørestad South from 2005: http://www.planogarkitektur.kk.dk/upload/pdf-lokalplaner/398.pdf
So in a way you are right. But since 5 of the 9 tall buildings in Ørestad City are going to be in the area that we are discussing, then I still consider it part of Ørestad City. And when they cover over the railway and motorway, then the whole of Ørestad City will be coherent - while being detached from (the rest of) Ørestad South.
And yes, I believe in Christianias right to exist. I usually go running there, and I also go to drink ice cold beer in Nemoland when the sun is out.
acebone June 21st, 2007, 10:15 PM In Jyllands Posten today there is an article about the possible future hospital in Ørestad. The Region has had informal negotiations with Ørestadsselskabet about placing the hospital above the highway.
I think it sounds very interesting.
ØlandDK June 21st, 2007, 10:40 PM Sounds very futuristic...any link to an article on the WWW maybe?:)
knilaus June 22nd, 2007, 10:18 AM ..
ØlandDK June 22nd, 2007, 11:51 AM So it's going to be a part of the Liebeskind-area...
Urbanus June 22nd, 2007, 11:56 AM I thought that area was the area where Fields was supose to expand - with the hotel high rise, the cinema and more stores (which is necessary if Ørestad in the future should an interesting place for shopping. Today the number of stores in Fields are too low, and the diversity too low, and the only reason it is so popular is the hype, but that won't last forever).
The area is also part of The Libeskind masterplan area - so it seems rather strange.
It doesn't make sence either to place a hospital in an area that is suposed to be a downtown area!
... but on the other hand it doesn't make sence either to build a mall in an area that supose to be a downtown area!!!
knilaus June 22nd, 2007, 12:05 PM ..
FREKI June 22nd, 2007, 12:08 PM A hospital, smack in the middle of the area - WTF? :ohno:
Nothing brings in the investment as a phyciatric ward right next to your office building and entertainment area :crazy:
What's next.. a tulip farm instead of the Libeskind towers? oh my.. :ohno:
Wasn't that place supposed to be the arcade street with shops and reataurants? :dunno:
knilaus June 22nd, 2007, 12:18 PM ..
knilaus June 22nd, 2007, 12:22 PM ..
Urbanus June 22nd, 2007, 01:29 PM Here's a bunch of possible alternative interpretations of the phrasing:
The parcel ON TOP of the highway by Fields
The parcel far north of the highway next to restadshuset (unlikely, since the area has already been zoned for residential use)
The parcel even further north of the highway in Amager Fælled - next to the existing psychiatric ward and part of the last stage of Ørestad development (unlikely, since the area has already been zoned for residential use)
The second option it can't be, since that area is where the school is supose to be, and the rest is residential as you said.
The third option is very unlikely since that area havn't been planed yet, and there isn't suposed to happen someting there before after 2012 I guess.
There is no free parcels in Ørestad City. The green area south of Field's are not a parcel! The parcels for sale and building is all marked. But there is the posibility to build on top of the railway/motorway, as you mentioned. It was not something there was supose to happen in the near future either (or mayby never), but if Region Hovedstad is comming with a large amount of money and say they want to build on top of the railway/motorway, I don't think Ørestadsselskabet will turn them down.
There is also the posibility that the journalist got her geography wrong and ment south, as there is some free areas in Ørestad Syd that could make sence. But we're actually about to reach that point when you want to build someting really big and ambitious, that is your own, then forget Ørestad! Many people still think of Ørestad as this big open area with room for everything, but the truth is that the parcels that are free are not very big, the use is limited and otherwise you must seek room in someting someone else have planned like Copenhagen Towers, The NCC/Libeskind area or the Hannemannsparken.
knilaus June 22nd, 2007, 01:45 PM ..
[juxtaposition] June 22nd, 2007, 02:36 PM A small question from the other side of Öresund. When looking at the parcel map of Örestad I'm noticing a huge gap between Örestad City and Örestad North and I'm curious as to why. Any special environmental circumstances or similiar the city planners had to consider? Seems odd otherwise, just leaving it open like that?
knilaus June 22nd, 2007, 02:48 PM ..
[juxtaposition] June 22nd, 2007, 03:37 PM ^^ Well that explains it, thanks. Seems reasonable enough too. Maybe I'm wrong about this, but I'm under the impression that the concept of sustainable / green living hasn't been a priority in Örestad. Malmö Stad imposes a whole range of environmental conditions when building in Västra Hamnen, which has become an international example in sustainable living. Very cool IMO.
tournesol June 22nd, 2007, 04:48 PM The primary school will occupy parcel #34. The parcel I am thinking of is empty and situated between #32 (Ørestadshuset) and #19 (VM-husene).
Actually they've managed to make an error in their own map!
#17 is surposed to be the highschool, but the highschool is located quite close to the small canal, with little space to sneak in a primary school. I think they've messed up the plots then drawing the map. I'm quite sure that the area you mentioned between Ørestadhuset and VM huset is reserved for a primaryschool. I've even seen a design for it once (can't remember where just now...).
As for the hospital (if it ever happens), I'm quite sure the area south of Fields is allready owned by Fields, and they have recently mentioned that expansions with the cinema and hotel will happen soon. Maybe that's even what is happening allready. There are some construction going on at the site at least.
So maybe they really mean "on top" of the highway. Otherwise Ørestad South, but then the article in JP surely has got the geography wrong...
EDIT: Just found the school on the Ørestad website: HERE (http://www.orestad.dk/index/privat/institutioner_og_uddannelse/skoler.htm)
The design is only ment as a vision. It's the middle picture in the right side that shows the Ørestad City school. You can clearly see that it's located next to the park next to Ørestadhuset, and not next to the highschool.
Rosinmanden June 22nd, 2007, 06:29 PM Actually the area just south of Fields is owned by NNC, and is part of the Ørestad Downtown project
andreas01 June 23rd, 2007, 02:56 PM Anyone know when they will start the contruction of the Bella Center hotel towers?
No real news about them in some time now.
cphdude June 23rd, 2007, 04:42 PM Anyone know when they will start the contruction of the Bella Center hotel towers?
No real news about them in some time now.
It was on hold for a while, because of the goverments tax-reform, but once that was solved the CEO did say that they wanted to go ahead with the plans, if the problems were really gone....Thats kinda the last we heard...
acebone June 23rd, 2007, 06:47 PM The Ceraco office building on Arne Jacobsens Alle is now named "domicilhuset". I think it looks very good especially with the coffeshop on the canal. You can see the project here:
http://www.domicilhuset.dk/
acebone June 23rd, 2007, 06:52 PM More news:
The ground between the psychiatric hospital and Vejlands Alle has been sold to KPC-byg. The ground has been reserved for an extension of the hospital but since this has not been relevant the ground was sold to KLP. The city council is working on a change of the local plan so the ground can be used for offices instead of public affairs. Henning Larsens Tegnestue will be the architect of the office building.
FREKI June 23rd, 2007, 08:14 PM Hold your horses, guys! I've shot off an email to the journalist asking for a possible clarification. In the mean time feel free to assist me in trying to locate what may be the actual location on the basis of the phrasing in the original article (http://jp.dk/arkiv/?id=979393).
The psychiatric ward has already been placed (back in 2001) just south of Sundby station and Solstriben. It's parcel #7 on this overview of parcels sold (http://www.orestad.dk/sider_fra_status_april07.pdf). So no 'danger' of that happening. If anything it's more likely to be an EA or a surgical centre for planned operations I'd guess or perhaps even a general hospital. All of which would be good for creating more life in the area around the clock as I see it. In any case it'd improve the chances of seeing a 7-11 being established in Ørestad City.
7eleven you say.. hmmm... maybe a hospital isn't that bad after all :D
Personally I'd be fine with a hospital ( hopefully a tall one ) in the area - but NOT at the most prime of prime locations!!
Urbanus June 27th, 2007, 03:20 PM The Bella Center hotel is approved and contruction can start:
http://www.takeoff.dk/news.cfm?nNewsWeekly=0&nNewsId=12016
ØlandDK June 27th, 2007, 04:58 PM Fianlly some good news, but why are they only mentioning one tower? I know that the plan is that they first construct the first tower for the IOC conference and afterwards will build the next. But it just seems a bit strange that they don't mention that...
cphdude June 27th, 2007, 09:41 PM The Bella Center hotel is approved and contruction can start:
http://www.takeoff.dk/news.cfm?nNewsWeekly=0&nNewsId=12016
Great news. But when is this from? Takeoff never writes a date on their news stories, it's bloddy anoying.....
tournesol June 28th, 2007, 09:30 AM ^^ Actually the Bella Center hotel was approved Mai 31st, so it's almost one month back now.
Blue Viking June 28th, 2007, 11:22 PM Hey guys, did you ever work out where the hospital might be placed?
I guess it won't be between Fields and the motorway since it's part of the Liebeskind plan and it seems construction has already started. Interesting pics, Knilaus!:
When we reached Fields we caught a glimpse of some building activity, which I presume is the start of the Ørestad Down Town project?
http://www.23hq.com/knilaus/photo/2054507/large?signature=162+1181905929+00BD13A53996414663F743A840F6A3E18B840974
http://www.23hq.com/knilaus/photo/2054500/large?signature=25+1181906029+3ED798659357312453351DF339E019E3876B7058
http://www.23hq.com/knilaus/photo/2054484/large?signature=937+1181906056+B4E8A5B34AB3A509E9C7EF76FFDD27B44D93991B
It will take some effort to get any kind of life in this urban space:
http://www.23hq.com/knilaus/photo/2054503/large?signature=906+1181905988+90345DE2716E7BCC293BA59213384D50CFC21D62
:lol: :lol:
andreas01 June 29th, 2007, 09:48 PM Great news. But when is this from? Takeoff never writes a date on their news stories, it's bloddy anoying.....
The article is from the 27/6 found it here http://www.takeoff.dk/news.cfm?search_articles=bella+center ;)
cphdude June 29th, 2007, 10:13 PM The article is from the 27/6 found it here http://www.takeoff.dk/news.cfm?search_articles=bella+center ;)
I see from that list the we are getting one more hotel in Ørestaden, 85 meters tall and with 370 rooms...Nice....
tournesol June 30th, 2007, 11:03 AM ^^ ...as part of Copenhagen Towers. So that means a least one of the 3 future towers allready has tennants. They write it will be opening in 2009, so that means they'll have to start construction pretty soon.
And we haven't even seen the design from Norman Foster yet! Can't wait... :)
Urbanus July 1st, 2007, 10:19 AM Ørestad will really be a center for hotels. Also there is the planned Field's Hotel and Hotel Scandinavia with plans of a second hotel tower - and the wellness center in Ørestad Syd.
cphdude July 1st, 2007, 01:17 PM ^^They also wanted to build some hotel apartments/serviced apartments just next to the ferring building. Dont know if that is included in what you are talking about...
Blue Viking July 9th, 2007, 08:00 PM Ørestad downtown area is certainly u/c but only the part between Fields and the motorway where the cinema and Fields hotel are going to be. Unfortunately there's no sign up, so I don't know what design they are going for. Here are some pictures from today - you can see the retaining walls being built and cement being pumped.
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/1838/photo0069uw4.jpg
http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/1468/photo0070cx0.jpg
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/4984/photo0071px6.jpg
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/1069/photo0072qp7.jpg
http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/5362/photo0073qi3.jpg
http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/5094/photo0074fs1.jpg
I was wondering why the retaining wall in the above picture is being placed so far from the railway. Anybody know why?
http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/2337/photo0075kb6.jpg
Hviid July 9th, 2007, 10:33 PM Great photos! Thanks for the lil update :cheers2: can't answering any of your questions though...
a lil off-topic: I went by Fisketorvet today.. damn there's a hell of a lot going on there aswell! I managed to take some photos and will post them (in the Copenhagen construction thread) sometime soon. :)
Plogger July 9th, 2007, 10:54 PM I was there today to, Blue Viking, at the jazz koncert just near Fields, and the construction was very loud, disturbing the concert a bit:-(
It seems like an expantion of the underground parking with those supporting walls. but I hope it will be much more than that, cant wait for more highises to go up in Orestad city, Ferring seems so lonely..
Blue Viking July 10th, 2007, 04:32 PM I was there today to, Blue Viking, at the jazz koncert just near Fields, and the construction was very loud, disturbing the concert a bit:-(
It seems like an expantion of the underground parking with those supporting walls. but I hope it will be much more than that, cant wait for more highises to go up in Orestad city, Ferring seems so lonely..
That's bad planning - unless it was artsy-fartsy-jazz-Palle-Mikkelborg-style. Then I think construction noise would be the lesser of two evils :)
And I also think they have started with the underground parking. But I don't think they would build a basement if they weren't going to build something on top of it.
Plogger July 10th, 2007, 04:40 PM That's bad planning - unless it was artsy-fartsy-jazz-Palle-Mikkelborg-style. Then I think construction noise would be the lesser of two evils :)
And I also think they have started with the underground parking. But I don't think they would build a basement if they weren't going to build something on top of it.
I think i would prefer Palle Mikkelborg, but I am very tolerant to construction noise if they are going to build a new scraper:)
Well I gues they wont, since there is that stupid height restriction:ohno:
By the way; I found a newer rendering of the Copenhagen towers project. Its NOT the final design, it says in the text below, but probaply closer that the previus Utzon design. Its on page 3...
www.sjaelsoe.dk/sjaelsoe/sjaelsoeweb.nsf/0/CD840258F2044CE5C1256E8C00347B39/$FILE/7_SG_kvartalsnyt.pdf
Blue Viking July 10th, 2007, 10:27 PM Oops sorry, it's the wrong artist I'm bashing. I meant Pierre Dørge... terrible!! :nuts:
Good find, Plogger. Certainly a lot better than the Utzon commie block plans - but still not very interesting. I'll be waiting for the final plans and hoping for something even less commie block like.
ØlandDK July 10th, 2007, 10:37 PM Would be nice if it wouldn't end up being that boxy - but yes still better than the Utzon plan
knilaus July 16th, 2007, 11:01 AM ..
Hviid July 16th, 2007, 06:34 PM You guys went a lot of places that day :) Cheers to that! :cheers2:
BTW Love that last photo.. that 1 cloud looks cool :)
Rosinmanden July 16th, 2007, 08:58 PM Says a lot abot the Copenhagen skyline, when a cloud is the most interesting thing in the picture
Hviid July 16th, 2007, 09:01 PM /\ :lol:
onetwothree July 17th, 2007, 01:24 AM *sigh*
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/9132/jpgrestadhd4.jpg
:lol:
ØlandDK July 17th, 2007, 01:52 AM ^^
Always thought Turning Torso was somewhere in Skåne?
The rest looks like I remeber it from last time I was on Ama'r (20 min ago)...
Hviid July 17th, 2007, 07:02 AM Where are the mountains? :) Come on, this is amager!! Not some boring little flat island.. there should be atleast a little mount everest or something behind that skyline :)
Blue Viking July 17th, 2007, 10:23 AM *sigh*
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/9132/jpgrestadhd4.jpg
:drool: :drool: :drool:
Yesterday I was reading the excellent Kbh-magazine and I found a rendering of the new Rambøll headquarter in Ørestaden. But I haven't been able to google it anywhere.
If everything else fails, you should be able to see a pdf-version of the magazine, including the rendering of the Rambøll HQ, by the end of August. Just follow this link: http://www.kbhmagasin.dk/
knilaus July 17th, 2007, 01:34 PM ..
ØlandDK July 17th, 2007, 02:02 PM ^^
Thought the same...:)
Blue Viking July 17th, 2007, 02:25 PM Hi guys, I'd love to help you but my computer broke down yesterday and I can't get it started. And I don't have a Donkel here at work to upload a picture. If I get my computer fixed I'll post a mobile shot.
Short desciption: Angular, glassy og big building about 8 stories high with a curved corner facing the station. The groundplan looks a bit like a boomerang. There seems to be one or more big long atrium rooms inside. Dissing and Weitling, who were also the architects behind the KLP-house, are the architects.
knilaus July 17th, 2007, 02:39 PM ..
FREKI July 19th, 2007, 11:23 PM 5 day old pics of the area:
http://i7.tinypic.com/53ufcsj.jpg
http://i7.tinypic.com/5zntsed.jpg
http://i13.tinypic.com/4y9sytl.jpg
http://i17.tinypic.com/6f8n9zr.jpg
http://i15.tinypic.com/4mhi7wx.jpg
http://i18.tinypic.com/4uejgxh.jpg
http://i9.tinypic.com/66j87zm.jpg
http://i16.tinypic.com/4qeng5l.jpg
More can be found in my CPH photoblog...
Still a loooong way to go, but it is getting better atleast ;)
Blue Viking July 20th, 2007, 10:22 AM Nice pictures! The area is a bit boring but the buildings are mostly alright. Except this one in front that looks like a bathroom turned inside out:
http://i18.tinypic.com/4uejgxh.jpg
ch1le July 20th, 2007, 12:38 PM Nice pictures! The area is a bit boring but the buildings are mostly alright. Except this one in front that looks like a bathroom turned inside out:
http://i18.tinypic.com/4uejgxh.jpg
and that is just the thing which makes it very cool!
Jarmo K July 20th, 2007, 02:10 PM these buildings have very interesting balconies! especially that^ building to the left, and the brown-beige building (:
andreas01 July 20th, 2007, 06:38 PM Nice pics! Dosen't think Porthuset looks that bad, compared to some of the other buildings out there, like Horisonten.. :ohno:
acebone August 19th, 2007, 08:43 PM Good news:
I went to Ørestad today and it looks like they have started digging on the cab-inn site.
I wonder when we will see some renderings.
ØlandDK August 19th, 2007, 08:52 PM Isn't there are a small rendering at http://www.orestaddowntown.dk/ ??
cphdude August 19th, 2007, 08:56 PM good news....
Hviid August 20th, 2007, 07:25 AM Isn't there are a small rendering at http://www.orestaddowntown.dk/ ??
Damn! Check out those trailers on the front page!! They're pretty damn good!
ØlandDK August 20th, 2007, 11:21 AM Damn! Check out those trailers on the front page!! They're pretty damn good!
I'll have a look at them when I get home from work...looks interesting
Pisling August 20th, 2007, 05:41 PM Damn! Check out those trailers on the front page!! They're pretty damn good!
Yeah, the new one's pretty cool. But doesn't Denmark look kinda weird in that zooming sequence? And what the hell are they zooming in on? It's not Ørestad, but seems to be somewhere in Jutland... :weird:
ØlandDK August 20th, 2007, 07:06 PM Yeah, the new one's pretty cool. But doesn't Denmark look kinda weird in that zooming sequence? And what the hell are they zooming in on? It's not Ørestad, but seems to be somewhere in Jutland... :weird:
Agree...that looked really strange...maybe they are building a ned Ørestad in Juelsminde or something
Hviid August 20th, 2007, 10:05 PM actually if u look very closely and pause the video when its zooming in (like i just did) u can see that its zooming right in on Amager.. so the location is right. It's just going so fast it's kinda hard to tell.
Pisling August 20th, 2007, 10:57 PM actually if u look very closely and pause the video when its zooming in (like i just did) u can see that its zooming right in on Amager.. so the location is right. It's just going so fast it's kinda hard to tell.
Oh, you're right! But still, it looks like Zealand and Amager is merged into Jutland. And poor Funen is missing. Hard to explain though...
Hviid August 20th, 2007, 11:20 PM hehe ya it does look like that. Perhaps we should write to these people and tell them they need to make their map more cleer ;) or atleast just slow down on the zooming so we can actually see where they're zooming into :tongue3:
Pisling August 21st, 2007, 11:35 AM hehe ya it does look like that. Perhaps we should write to these people and tell them they need to make their map more cleer ;) or atleast just slow down on the zooming so we can actually see where they're zooming into :tongue3:
Well, the trailer is probably made in China (it's so popular theses days) by people who believes that Denmark is the capital of Stockholm. Yeah, that makes perfectly sense :laugh:
knilaus August 26th, 2007, 11:05 PM ..
ØlandDK August 27th, 2007, 01:59 PM Did you like the circus? http://ibyen.dk/scene/anmeldelser/article366516.ece :dunno:
knilaus August 27th, 2007, 02:11 PM ..
knilaus August 28th, 2007, 10:53 AM ..
Blue Viking August 28th, 2007, 06:14 PM ^^
That's interesting but maybe a bit sad that they aren't building the hotel first. Although I personally will be using a new cinema more than a new hotel I really think Ferring needs some company out there.
knilaus August 31st, 2007, 12:05 PM ..
staff August 31st, 2007, 12:33 PM VM-husene are very impressive. My favourite buildings in Örestad right now.
knilaus August 31st, 2007, 12:49 PM ..
Urbanus September 2nd, 2007, 12:09 AM There is finally some news about Copenhagen Towers in Sjælsø Gruppens Halvårsrapport.
On page 19 there is a new rendering, at it seems like a final design acording to the text. As mentioned earlier first phase will most like start contruction already this year. Now it seems like the first phase will be two high rises: A hotel tower with 340 rooms, and a office tower.
The rendering looks pretty nice.
http://hugin.info/86917/R/1149118/219778.pdf (go to page 19 -text in Danish)
knilaus September 3rd, 2007, 01:16 PM ..
Blue Viking September 3rd, 2007, 05:29 PM ^^ Nice find!
mlm September 3rd, 2007, 09:11 PM /\ Looks pretty sweet. :)
Is it just across the motorway from Ferring?
ØlandDK September 3rd, 2007, 09:22 PM ^^
Yeah it must be across the motorway from Ferring.
Agree that it looks pretty sweet!:)
Pisling September 4th, 2007, 12:16 AM With due credit to Blue Viking for the original find in Magasinet KBH I hereby bring you the newly released rendering of the planned corporate headquarters for the Rambøll Group to be erected on the plot east of the metro and just south of the highway to Sweden in Ørestad:
http://www.23hq.com/knilaus/photo/2381229/large?signature=852+1188817212+13F167C1A301D434D56B70BE949408BC28298D70
Very nice! And very boomerang-ish...
acebone September 4th, 2007, 10:51 AM There is now a movie about ørestad downtown at
http://www.orestaddowntown.dk/
It looks very nice.
EDK_DK September 4th, 2007, 11:34 AM ^^
looks amazing
More news: "Ørestad Business Center"
New renderings from NCC regarding the area south of the motorway in Ørestaden. (Not the Libeskind area)
This also looks amazing....
http://www.ncc.dk/templates/GenericPage____96
http://www.ncc.dk/upload/dk/nyt_kontor/OBC_580.jpg
http://www.ncc.dk/upload/dk/nyt_kontor/OBC2_580.jpg
http://www.ncc.dk/upload/dk/nyt_kontor/Orestad_citysyd_top_592.jpg
ØlandDK September 4th, 2007, 11:45 AM ^^
The link doesn't work...but those pics you posted doesn't look any bad...
EDK_DK September 4th, 2007, 11:49 AM ^^
The link doesn't work...but those pics you posted doesn't look any bad...
NCC Homepage under "Prejektudviklig" - Kontorer
ØlandDK September 4th, 2007, 11:54 AM Thanks...you know on what ground it's exactly located? West of the WTC-ground right?
EDK_DK September 4th, 2007, 12:00 PM Thanks...you know on what ground it's exactly located? West of the WTC-ground right?
yep
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/6536/nccda0.jpg
Urbanus September 4th, 2007, 12:25 PM ^^
looks amazing
More news: "Ørestad Business Center"
New renderings from NCC regarding the area south of the motorway in Ørestaden. (Not the Libeskind area)
This also looks amazing....
http://www.ncc.dk/templates/GenericPage____96
http://www.ncc.dk/upload/dk/nyt_kontor/OBC_580.jpg
http://www.ncc.dk/upload/dk/nyt_kontor/OBC2_580.jpg
http://www.ncc.dk/upload/dk/nyt_kontor/Orestad_citysyd_top_592.jpg
WOW!! That really looks amazing! :nuts:
acebone September 4th, 2007, 12:40 PM Can't wait to see all these projects in Ørestad become real.
knilaus September 4th, 2007, 12:43 PM ..
ØlandDK September 4th, 2007, 12:44 PM There wasn't any info about it at the architects homepage so it's hard to tell
Blue Viking September 4th, 2007, 01:16 PM According to the homepage it's a master plan. So it's a plan for the lay-out of the area and the renderings don't represent the actual buildings. This links to an interesting pdf (if it works): http://www.ncc.dk/upload/dk/nyt_kontor/pdf/Oerestad_BC_download.pdf
In the pdf you can read that the master plan is inspired by the Loch Ness-monster! Who would have guessed that?? :lol: :nuts:
mlm September 4th, 2007, 01:41 PM Very interesting plan. I actually just came to this thread to post the same thing...:)
For a masterplan, it looks very detailed...
Hviid September 4th, 2007, 05:47 PM Let's just hope the real thing ends up looking like this! Cuz this really looks cool! :yes:
knilaus September 5th, 2007, 01:14 PM ..
knilaus September 11th, 2007, 03:08 PM ..
CBR September 16th, 2007, 08:06 PM Hello everyone,
Since I moved to Ørestad about 6 months ago, I have been following this thread with some interest.
It's very interesting to see all the new projects as well as seeing more and more of the existing project getting completed out here.
I have some news, since I wrote to Ørestadsparkering regarding the fully automatic parking facility on Edvard Thomsens Vej, which have been planned to be completed in December 2008. Unfortunately it seems that it has been delayed a little, but at least they are still working on the project. I was afraid that they might have cancelled it or something like that.
The email response I received was (in Danish):
"Parkeringshuset på Edvard Thomsens Vej er under projektering. Det bliver Europas største (over 800 pladser) og Danmarks første fuldautomatiske parkeringshus. Byggeriet opstartes i 2008, og der er indvielse medio 2009. Vi har vedlagt et par billeder af en model af projektet, som vi arbejder med. Den hvide ”firkant” nederst i venstre hjørne på billede DSC00030 er den vestlige del af transformerstationen, der ligger ca. midt på Edvard Thomsens Vej."
These are the pictures I received from them:
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/4761/dsc00030az2.th.jpg (http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00030az2.jpg)
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/6808/dsc00031qh4.th.jpg (http://img511.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00031qh4.jpg)
I also wanted to show you the view from my apartment on a nice day like today, so I made a very quick panoramic photo. It's taken from the 4th floor (4. sal) in Copenhagen Golf Park facing the new Golf course area.
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/5743/panove8.th.jpg (http://img251.imageshack.us/my.php?image=panove8.jpg)
ØlandDK September 16th, 2007, 08:27 PM Nice view you got (love all the cranes:))...Thanks for the info about the parking house and welcome to the forum!:)
CBR September 16th, 2007, 08:53 PM Thanks!
Yes, it's a nice view we have out here... :-)
Just wanted to give you a few night shots as well:
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/4427/panocitynp0.th.jpg (http://img265.imageshack.us/my.php?image=panocitynp0.jpg)
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6024/dscf0023vu6.th.jpg (http://img210.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf0023vu6.jpg)
http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/157/dscf0022vy2.th.jpg (http://img252.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf0022vy2.jpg)
And a few pictures taken by a friend of mine living nearby in "Det Flexible Hus":
http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/7219/img0211rr4.th.jpg (http://img252.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0211rr4.jpg)
http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/7046/img0226fj2.th.jpg (http://img252.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0226fj2.jpg)
mlm September 16th, 2007, 10:23 PM Welcome to the forum CBR :hi:
A quick question, related to the parking situation: Are there a big parking place shortage in Ørestaden at the moment for the residents? I see in your panorama, and have also noticed when driving there myself, that a lot of cars are parked on Center Boulevard. Seems like a strange place to park your car.
CBR September 17th, 2007, 11:55 AM Yes, the parking situation is quite problematic out there at the moment. It's possible to buy a parking license, but at the moment they only have temporary parking area instead of the new permanent parking facilities, like the one I described above. The nearest temporary parking area is the Field's outside parking. That is quite a long way from our apartments and therefore not practical at all, so most of us simply park on the Center Boulevard. This is also free, while the parking license for the temporary parking areas costs 450 kr/month or something like that (though it's half price approx. for 1 more year). When the permanent parking facilities are finished it will cost 975 kr/month to get a parking license. Very expensive if you ask me.
We also have some guest parking areas in front our our building on Edvard Thomsens Vej, but of course they don't allow the parking licenses to be used on those kind of areas. I don't see why they don't allow us to park there, at least until the permanent facility is finished.
Enough complaining... :-) Apart from the parking problems, I am quite happy about living there.
Welcome to the forum CBR :hi:
A quick question, related to the parking situation: Are there a big parking place shortage in Ørestaden at the moment for the residents? I see in your panorama, and have also noticed when driving there myself, that a lot of cars are parked on Center Boulevard. Seems like a strange place to park your car.
Urbanus September 17th, 2007, 01:46 PM When the permanent parking facilities are finished it will cost 975 kr/month to get a parking license. Very expensive if you ask me.
You could also just take the metro - it only cost 310 kr. pr. month.
knilaus September 17th, 2007, 02:02 PM ..
CBR September 17th, 2007, 02:21 PM Yes, that's a great plan if you work in the center of Copenhagen. However some people, like myself, actually work in areas not easily accessible by public transportation ;-) I personally have to visit different customers every day, so the metro is not really an option.
This is probably not the right place for this discussion anyway.
You could also just take the metro - it only cost 310 kr. pr. month.
CBR September 17th, 2007, 02:28 PM Thanks for the welcome.
Yes, that's right. I have been participating in that discussion over at oravis.dk, and we better keep it over there. I have seen your name over there as well ;-) We have some politicians participating over there, so I still hope something will be done to improve the parking situation out there. At least in the period until they finish the new parking houses. I am willing to pay for the license, it's just very chaotic out there right now.
And yes, of course I noticed the woman in the photograph :-D
Or 420 if you need zone 2.
This is a rather heated discussion over at oravis.dk at the moment and I think some of the debaters there are more deserving of being confronted with the metro counterargument than our very own CBR, who has been pretty pragmatic about the issue. Some people actually need to have a car to go to work or drop off kids in creches or kindergartens. However, my point of view is that if the car was of such importance to these people and if they're not willing to pay the 1000 DKK/month then they should have moved to Sluseholmen or Havneholmen and not Ørestad. I'd like to keep Ørestad a modern part of the city with as little car traffic as possible.
Welcome to the forum CBR - and thanks for the interesting information about the parking house that I hadn't seen before. Also thanks for the very interesting photos of the view from flats in Ørestad City. I'm moving out into Ørestad Syd myself next year.
Did you notice the woman in the picture taken by your friend? ;)
By the way - somebody asked technical mayor Klaus Bondam recently if he would take the initiative to establish some parking spaces for carshare (delebiler) parking in Ørestad recently. And he answered (http://bondam.dk/flx/v3/koebenhavn/debatten/?FID=1&MID=1553) that he would ask his administration to create 4 - 5 parking spaces for carshares.
Urbanus September 17th, 2007, 03:46 PM Yes, that's a great plan if you work in the center of Copenhagen. However some people, like myself, actually work in areas not easily accessible by public transportation ;-) I personally have to visit different customers every day, so the metro is not really an option.
This is probably not the right place for this discussion anyway.
Well, I'm not a car-hater. Cars belongs to the city. But I don't see it as a human right for everyone to have your car right outside your door for free. Ørestad is a place with perfect public transport, and where there is a good posibility for building a new town with car-traffic limited to a minimum. I accept many people have work where the car is necessary, but i don't believe that it is everyone who moves to Ørestad. Otherwise they must know that the price then are an extra 1000 kr. pr. month. As Knilaus wrote there are other places where is is easier, cheaper and more suitable to have a car.
But that was not my point to start a traffic debate here!
Well some good news. Cabinn finally on the way:
http://www.orestad.dk/index/privat/nyhedsbrev/cabinn_metro_grundsten.htm
acebone September 20th, 2007, 09:00 PM New update on the status in Ørestad.
http://www.orestad.dk/status_22_august.pdf
Two new projects have been added. Nordkranen will build combined housing and offices on the original school ground facing the park and DADES will build offices on the site between the high school and Porthuset.
Now there is only one unsold ground in Ørestad City. It is the ground where the combined parking and housing project called Black Wing was supposed to be.
FREKI September 21st, 2007, 11:24 AM ^Thanks mate...
According to that there will be 3 20 story "Copenhagen towers"... I hope it's final then! :)
knilaus September 23rd, 2007, 03:07 PM ..
Hviid September 23rd, 2007, 10:52 PM http://www.23hq.com/knilaus/photo/2444218/large?signature=875+1190552515+1813577033775233A9BBD2006D6F65F0E44ED062
(Ferrari - DLL this one's for you!)
:D awesome!
Good update and good photos! :cheers2: I have absolutely no free time what so ever at the moment so its nice that u can go out and take/post these photos :)
acebone September 27th, 2007, 10:58 AM With due credit to Blue Viking for the original find in Magasinet KBH I hereby bring you the newly released rendering of the planned corporate headquarters for the Rambøll Group to be erected on the plot east of the metro and just south of the highway to Sweden in Ørestad:
http://www.23hq.com/knilaus/photo/2381229/large?signature=852+1188817212+13F167C1A301D434D56B70BE949408BC28298D70
According to Jyllands Posten this Tuesday, Rambøll will start digging in december.
cphdude September 30th, 2007, 01:25 PM Okay here's the latest batch of pictures from Ørestad. It contains the following "highlights":
1) Amager-kollegiet (http://www.amagerkollegiet.dk/) / The Amager Halls of Residence, which are situated in Ørestad City on the other side of the canal and the metro line. These very interesting little, white and black houses for students were originally built in 1967 as a "summer hotel" for guests visiting Copenhagen on the occasion of the city's 800 year anniversary. The "summer hotel" was subsequently converted to student housing. However, by 2000 the houses were so worn down that it was decided to tear most of them down and only using the foundation and skeletons build completely new halls of residence on the plot. The contract for the design was awarded to "tnt arkitekter".
Yeah, I used to live in one of those, and they are actually pretty nice on the inside....
Kipple October 2nd, 2007, 02:48 AM Hello everyone!
I would like to announce my entry to this magnificent thread. I have been following this part (#2) and part #1 for quite some time now and i feel that it is time for me to enter with some hopefully good contributions! :)
Like CBR i am also living in Copenhagen Golfpark, but at a different location. I am facing the park and not the golf course. I moved to Ørestaden in december 2006 and i must say that it has been a great delight to live here and follow the very exciting development of Ørestad City.
My First contribution will consist of only one picture. But this one picture will be a small taste of what will follow soon.....
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2473309/large?signature=757+1191311133+F1834553DF3763317D96D9E3D9B7C818F3FAEFC4
"Sejlhuset" under construction during the "Light and architecture picnic" by Illumenarts on the 18th of may 2007.
I have got a lot of other pictures of all the buildings around the city park at the event! All illuminated quite nicely.... So please let know if you want to see more of it.
I have also planned a walk around Ørestad City and South within the next couple of days were i might bring a camera to get some nice shots of the current development of the buildings.
knilaus October 2nd, 2007, 09:52 AM ..
knilaus October 2nd, 2007, 09:58 AM ..
cphdude October 2nd, 2007, 10:38 AM I've accumulated a list of projects that I believe are either ongoing or set to go "under construction" in the coming 12 months. I imagine that the list could act as inspiration to people living in Ørestad or visiting to take pictures of ongoing projects. If you happen to know more details about construction start or of any other projects that I've missed please let me know so we can update the list. By the way, the list is sorted in a guesstimated order of construction start:
KLP 2 (next to KLP-huset)
VM Bjerget
Stævnen
Fields Cinemaplex
Cab Inn Ørestad
BIG House
Ørestad Friskole Extension
Ørestad Downtown Towers
Copenhagen Towers - Hotel m. m.
Rambøll Headquarters
KLP 3 (next to Ferring)
Domicilhuset
Mikado House
Ørestad Skole
looks great. I was wondering if you guys wouldnt mind telling us a little bit more about the "urban" progress and living out there...Are there any shops and restaurants besides fields? Any life after 5 and that sought of thing...
Oh, and also knilaus, i remember reading sometime ago that Ørestadsselskabet and the city council wanted the experimentarium to move fraom Hellerup and out to ørestaden. I think they even offered them some financial bennefits and a lot more space then they have now...Do you know if there is anymore news about that...
And finally, welcome to the forum Kipple...:)
knilaus October 2nd, 2007, 12:06 PM ..
FREKI October 2nd, 2007, 12:16 PM Welcome to the forum Kipple! :cheers1:
knilaus October 3rd, 2007, 12:58 PM ..
cphdude October 3rd, 2007, 03:57 PM ^^Patience, my dear boy. I did actually give it some thought last night, but as you say yourself, it is not that easy...
Most of the bigger museums like Statens museum for kunst, nationalmuseet, or even places like Louisiana or Arken, all seam to be happy where they are. The Copenhagen city-museum say they need more space, but I doubt they would leave the brick city or that they would attract many people out there.
Eksperimentariet was really the best idea, which is why I was so excited when I heard about it. The only thing that I could think about, and this is very different I know, is the one thing already planed out there, the big multiarena. That is if it will ever happen, which I am really begining to doubt. If the combined the arena with cinema, restaurants and other things, that might attract more people out there, though that would only bring them as far as Bella Centeret.
I think your idea of creating a new museum is great, and perhaps the only selution. A museum if sceience and technology, connecting all the schools, istetutions and offices in the copenhagen areas, which has something to do with that. With top facilities it could work.
I think another option is to build a sports complex starting with a new and bigger national stadium (and therefore finally solving all the problems with Parken) and other facileties for sport. Running tracks, as maller arean, tennis courts, swimming hall, the WWRafting thing they are also working on building outthere...Indoor skihill perhaps...They are already building the golfcourse outthere, and they could build big facileties within reach and at the same time not bother the residents...
Not exactly culture, I know, but a combination that could both bring people out there, but also give the current and future recidents some great sports facilities.
I think something like that could be needed...
Blue Viking October 4th, 2007, 11:45 PM Hey guys, I think it's great that you have started some debate around here! I guess my own passivity (besides being very busy at the moment!) is caused by the fact that debates around here don't really have relevance in the public debate anyway. So even if we debate and reach a common stand here, it basically just stays here. It seems as if this place works best for sharing news and pictures.
Anyway, while it is interesting to see what kind of cultural centre they are going to make, I just hope to see some of the taller buildings going up in Ørestad soon! :)
Urbanus October 5th, 2007, 11:36 AM Construction of Big house wil start on monday:
http://www.bygnet.dk/bygnet/go;jsessionid=ED35F7FD46D1A401C9151CDBDC136B83?action=302&id=9395&leftRows=10&leftCount=8795&leftFirstRow=1&groupId=301
:)
safta20 October 5th, 2007, 02:10 PM ^^ This will be the coolest modern house in Scandinavia!
acebone October 8th, 2007, 09:42 AM The construction of the park in Ørestad City will also start today.
knilaus October 8th, 2007, 09:25 PM ..
DenverDane October 8th, 2007, 09:32 PM Looks great. I'm very happy about this. Thanks for the info, knilaus.
knilaus October 8th, 2007, 09:44 PM ..
ØlandDK October 8th, 2007, 10:14 PM ^^
Thanks for the updates:)...you new home looks good:yes:
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Jarmo K October 9th, 2007, 12:49 PM ^these last two projects are amazing!!
aaah, danish contemporary architecture - must love it!
Jarmo K October 9th, 2007, 12:51 PM i especially LOVE the copper (?) finishing on the tower. who are the architects of this project?
safta20 October 9th, 2007, 01:31 PM I've accumulated a list of projects that I believe are either ongoing or set to go "under construction" in the coming 12 months. I imagine that the list could act as inspiration to people living in Ørestad or visiting to take pictures of ongoing projects. If you happen to know more details about construction start or of any other projects that I've missed please let me know so we can update the list. By the way, the list is sorted in a guesstimated order of construction start:
KLP 2 (next to KLP-huset)
VM Bjerget
Stævnen
Fields Cinemaplex
Cab Inn Ørestad
BIG House
Ørestad Friskole Extension
Ørestad Downtown Towers
Copenhagen Towers - Hotel m. m.
Rambøll Headquarters
KLP 3 (next to Ferring)
Domicilhuset
Mikado House
Ørestad Skole
Cool! Is here anyone out here who could give links to each project to? I would love to go through all the best projects in Copenhagen... it's a very good top list!
knilaus October 9th, 2007, 01:31 PM ..
knilaus October 9th, 2007, 01:59 PM ..
safta20 October 9th, 2007, 02:27 PM ^^ Thank you very much!
mlm October 9th, 2007, 03:17 PM Those new renderings of the "Littel Tower" looks really good, love the facade. :)
BTW, is it just me, or does the "KPL 2" look like something from the 60's, you would expect to find in a German city, on this rendering: Click me (http://www.klp-ejendomme.dk/Images/5G/WEB%20Visualiseringer%205G/T-A-0-X-4-01C_web.jpg)
cphdude October 9th, 2007, 04:33 PM Prices starting at 1.175 million DKK? Wow...Its been a while since you could get a centrally located flat at that price, hasnt it? Even if it isperhaps just a 1room or a "studio" as our american friends would call it...
Jarmo K October 9th, 2007, 06:47 PM aaaaaaaah, i should have realised that big = bjarke ingels group! thanks, knilaus!
i still remember their proposal for a superb skyscraper in shanghai! and the so-called vm house with the funky balconies - the coolest building in orestad!
damn, bjarke ingels must be the best young architect in the world!
Cafo October 10th, 2007, 08:28 PM I really like BIG House, the best project I've seen from them yet.
There were some articles in Berlingske today, nothing new except for the fact that the cheap rentals will only be there for 15 years, after that they might increase rent or sell it at going market rate. Also the rent will be 5000 kr in 2005 present value.
Blue Viking October 11th, 2007, 12:27 AM Hmm, I don't know. I think the backyard will become very dark. But it does look interesting. And a lot better than that Kløvermarken-proposal :lol: ;)
I think the best Big proposal is the one for Scala. That would be great!! But the little tower in Ørestad syd and VM-bjerget are also good.
ØlandDK October 11th, 2007, 09:39 AM The proposal called ECH on www.big.dk is my favorite...:yes:
Jarmo K October 11th, 2007, 10:31 AM ^hehee! yes! the homepage says its status is "ongoing" - whattahell? but really, is it something that might happen in copenhagen?!
a bit offtopic: is bjarke ingels considered a real STAR architect in denmark? (i imagine yes, yes, yes!)
ØlandDK October 11th, 2007, 12:29 PM Doubt it is "ongoing"...Don't know if he considered a star but there's quite alot about him in the media when they are talking about high rises...
Kipple October 11th, 2007, 05:26 PM I promised photos from the current construction sites in Ørestad Syd. Here they are..... (brand spanking new; pictures taken today)
Kipple October 11th, 2007, 05:36 PM http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502934/large?signature=534+1192115272+01ED9CAABDA1AD080AC42878D9F89519B196AAAC
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502935/large?signature=782+1192115298+DFCFEF7119C7996880D9923B0BF3401E3174068A
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502936/large?signature=331+1192115328+100635DA09BCBFDB4E29896DFFC6F46385FC1CFF
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502939/large?signature=510+1192115359+10E2406BE5E021548B1FFEDCF338EDAC9B7ED1AD
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502940/large?signature=13+1192115375+6CEB6E68795D65B650651079215DB8FFF71AF0BE
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502923/large?signature=450+1192115430+EF39D60B82E8AE407FFBC2937D6ADA9095EBDC43
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502978/large?signature=445+1192115457+636C3FAD1828FEF02CEC98CC138203A0F34E1D17
Benches especialy designed for Fields 2 :hahaha:
Kipple October 11th, 2007, 05:41 PM Seen from my balcony:
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502918/large?signature=474+1192117341+244C33B894AF5C3E2376960000180207B6EB1A4C
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502915/large?signature=408+1192117398+AACD38F5F2CFC5CDE7E2A3D52625EE1CBB28E712
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502910/large?signature=702+1192117422+337A738E41314BC0E61A2E25DF7E669482EF9C53
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502911/large?signature=318+1192117448+9C3CCAC92175C05BD3404CF95A4F25CC5BB7DF75
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502913/large?signature=113+1192117481+063BE92433411CFF680AE10AEAB7A8B2328F8B53
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502916/large?signature=591+1192117514+9F6059B9879A9ACA543365923184DF87FB09CC5B
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502917/large?signature=120+1192117534+C8CBB0BF3AA4ACBD25D96C53E9E9AA13DFA1B75E
Kipple October 11th, 2007, 05:46 PM http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2503002/large?signature=357+1192117667+B3DF507439BF17028885323984050F701629CD34
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502924/large?signature=975+1192117745+1007B5B11DD7397B180D26C3814E8CBFE05DFA9D
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502925/large?signature=910+1192117768+CD78271E6BBC4EE6F41FAD82630E5E078FE38804
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502926/large?signature=60+1192117790+279461E982E472A3708AC073ADFDBC88003A1036
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502927/large?signature=196+1192117811+10C81B1617E915B8BBA0043D89918FA3380D0914
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502928/large?signature=711+1192117836+953B841E392A7B57212256C239A95551A05F98A2
Kipple October 11th, 2007, 05:48 PM :nuts:
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502891/large?signature=314+1192117937+2FF61B070B524636369B6D1C331C51DF5381A05A
Kipple October 11th, 2007, 05:49 PM http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502944/large?signature=213+1192118045+86475E0C68F733D340EDF8B299E1792962A8C208
Kipple October 11th, 2007, 06:01 PM Congrats on the buy! I think the buildings look great on the renderings and it appears like its good quality (from looking at the salesmaterials)
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502994/large?signature=265+1192118360+AAB06C3C6D85E185C00C05C2B8317EAC5664C628
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502985/large?signature=179+1192118397+A187A2BB66A2B4194907CF2234A86C93A0550CC4
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502990/large?signature=408+1192118421+E56D7396ABD6A2E2F5AB0B23B1328D67789E967E
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502997/large?signature=543+1192118450+96CF53A2549952F2636BA66E47E5D33B72AB8154
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502995/large?signature=903+1192118475+72DD9705945854DF33B1A3FA7AA591149707C225
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502993/large?signature=802+1192118500+7F1E7646104184A29648259AF19F5C0C0886D93F
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502992/large?signature=828+1192118526+38B6F83B693AC3F66EFECC4DF421966CF1E3C7C6
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502991/large?signature=708+1192118554+6148372FA21FE444B58FCD022295CFD19543F286
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502989/large?signature=705+1192118601+90B1A17BBE26A78C3F79FFE43BCB387CEE2BB2C3
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502986/large?signature=558+1192118622+81B0603DE4DA16129B98777D625B795BDC1B02C0
Stævnen and the canal:
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502983/large?signature=555+1192118753+1D80A653E978E7DCB23E1B1CEFA0315D94A36A73
Insane alex October 11th, 2007, 06:04 PM Great update! Thanks!
Kipple October 11th, 2007, 06:07 PM http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502900/large?signature=128+1192118922+45C5CE5F1263A01FBCBC426234042B5964C5EFD0
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502895/large?signature=920+1192118943+6A6AE07E06BEDC8009BAA261CFE87D2C7AC431DC
Is it going to be made out of wood?
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502901/large?signature=935+1192118962+81D88051310B86B7D07D36F42F8E4C93A5DD7180
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502902/large?signature=96+1192119042+0E53C5523D9A1608E656F66CB88503373252242E
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502898/large?signature=985+1192119071+742AA572251A8CE38443953056BF32E7A570DD1E
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502903/large?signature=192+1192119095+92D054EA19171B32DBD6A44BB940BBE35F3421A4
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502892/large?signature=40+1192119116+7BB16874D3C0C41A7EB920D5CBD9E545A9AF71C5
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502894/large?signature=257+1192119134+13644F9D93DBEF2342D5B469BA0086611FE43A3C
Kipple October 11th, 2007, 06:11 PM Bridge #1 (to the east):
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502905/large?signature=530+1192119252+1938C5EE2F5F7E1473FC92DF799CE70D6A6D09CA
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502906/large?signature=856+1192119274+81A4178F2A08E4EA93D5B438478293BED268C536
Bridge #2 (in the middle):
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502908/large?signature=604+1192119310+59A6C96F087CD074AA21C444E679C22B7F5BDEE4
Bridge #3 (to the west):
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502909/large?signature=211+1192119383+1304EAF653710EF2E5A6461958C6112DD181C504
Kipple October 11th, 2007, 06:17 PM http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502951/large?signature=614+1192119516+1D430C1AB083665D88A894F679BF71C914326D9A
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502950/large?signature=899+1192119534+4E483B796A5B95F4084BA09A2C0C39480FE8DD6F
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502945/large?signature=905+1192119673+08446BBDB516918D049A330416E5793C313D0B81
Notice that the canal bends towards the northern part of Ørestad syd:
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502949/large?signature=587+1192119578+DFAA8454CA8FEE8815BA58198E70384C6CA8602B
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502948/large?signature=415+1192119602+8545F3A62A6D67A2B49313963F7B103035B36D7C
Kipple October 11th, 2007, 06:18 PM Does anybody know what this might be????
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502943/large?signature=785+1192119735+516C3EAA73C1191DDD9B0C775D0A3AEB056F4B69
Kipple October 11th, 2007, 06:21 PM I saw some digging on the site: (look to the right of the photo)
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502931/large?signature=29+1192119881+7CF156ABFE1D0903E908D4F20B862AC5BE7BAB83
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502933/large?signature=456+1192119942+72EE294E99A3A12196045A8B22B038FA0747D4B3
Kipple October 11th, 2007, 06:37 PM May i present to you:
KLP 2
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502981/large?signature=85+1192120266+53019CAA8BC0FBB0B89ED24C085212ACAB716947
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502952/large?signature=288+1192120144+5ABB0F52C34A56C96DC87EAB47629EE4E42CAD4E
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502963/large?signature=531+1192120205+61CAA2D73AC2CE7D8E3E070FA6B29CF47F7DB6F5
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502964/large?signature=466+1192120222+B0618D90919C314484B8365D5A40D5FA6CC55CE1
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502967/large?signature=500+1192120243+C397634D1CC33065ABB66738D19FA9F7229798B0
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502965/large?signature=674+1192120344+31EC36F7EB7B1C4C1A96D3F256FC564AF992C9FF
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502968/large?signature=816+1192120370+87389DE4238F6495C562107F526FA56C654A8C1D
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502970/large?signature=809+1192120395+3BF94545C2C80F87C72E8AEE80E8C22E0326E3E7
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502973/large?signature=495+1192120413+C35A51180B78B0EBF4E835419D0EE524945D6033
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502953/large?signature=552+1192120517+5E4F2D539C3CCD147F4524D228E4323E6F1C3AA8
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502974/large?signature=623+1192120461+C5C15331A33CAE15BACF4D41BB3DD34F9E0B9A7F
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502962/large?signature=379+1192120487+749AAA7F9A69B208CD4C4C55E2211CE7D70210E6
Parking garage??
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502960/large?signature=343+1192120610+BA8EFDEB6B73F6243AA7772D836B90D1ABAEB53F
Some kind of funny looking metal supports:
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502955/large?signature=498+1192120733+11E770B1F5D69E8F861C934F28C31B9EEEFE98A9
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502954/large?signature=152+1192120760+959DBBC91250E25042E692FBC249465F4CDDD3AB
Thats it for now! :)
Coming up:
Nighttime photos from Circo de Madrugada (24/8-07)
and
Photos from my next walk around Ørestad City
cphdude October 11th, 2007, 10:05 PM ^^Great pics. Thank you for that...Some of them are hard to imagen as you cant see anything yet, but I guess it wil happen...
Blue Viking October 11th, 2007, 11:12 PM Thanks for the pictures Kipple! And welcome to the forum if I forgot to welcome you earlier on :cheers:
It's good to see the Cap Inn U/C now. I hope to see some renderings of the two towers in the city area soon.
mlm October 12th, 2007, 01:24 AM GO! Copenhagen Towers GO!Did I just miss something, or are these tower actually under construction now???? :uh:
And, does anybody know if the Fields 2 will include the long planed hotel highrise? Wasn't it supposed to be at this location??
knilaus October 12th, 2007, 10:11 AM ..
firewater October 12th, 2007, 11:17 AM beautiful compilation.
I must commend the thoroughness of your documentation, kipple
tournesol October 12th, 2007, 11:58 AM Thanks Kipple :okay:
An excellent report. And welcome in the forum of course :)
And truely interesting that Copenhagen Towers seems to be in the preparation stage. I guess that means that we soon will have the official start ("Første spadestik" with Mayor, music and all the usual ceremonial stuff...)
@mlm. I read somewhere (don't remember where :( ) that this is only the cinamacomplex and a parkinghouse, and not the tower. Not yet...
@knilaus. I agree. KLP2 is looking better thatn in the rendering. Not that spectacular, but OK...
Kipple October 12th, 2007, 04:51 PM First of all thanks. Im just glad finally to be contributing to this very good and interesting thread:)
And i am quite a newbee in taking photos.... Hoping that will improve! :colgate:
The pictures of Stævnen were great. We're happy to see that they've reached the ground level now and your pictures actually give rise to a question that we're forwarding to the Stævnen project office right now.
What was the question being raised???
You ask the question what the big hole in the road at the end of Ørestad Boulevard could be. I don't know for a fact but I'm guessing that maybe they're doing another alien hideout. I don't suppose it could have anything to do with this (http://www.sl.life.ku.dk/Nyheder/Oerestad_tit051007.aspx)?
The event mentioned in the link was going on right outside my window a few days ago. The waterfilter is inside the City park right in front of Horisonten.
Regarding KLP2: The reason why i took a lot of shots was exactly because people were talking about the (ugly) rendering. It doesnt look like the rendering at all in real life. The sandcoloured tiles look quite similar to the ones used on KLP1.
I dont know if you can see the small details on the metalplates between the windows on the closeup shot. But they look very good.
http://www.23hq.com/Kipple/photo/2502973/large?signature=495+1192120413+C35A51180B78B0EBF4E835419D0EE524945D6033
Jarmo K October 12th, 2007, 07:14 PM hi!
maybe this is a silly question... but i just need to know!! :D
is this bjarke ingels?! (seems to me that it is!)
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n85/jarmo_k/vmhusene19.jpg
is this julien de smedt?!?! (hmmmm!)
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n85/jarmo_k/vmhusene18.jpg
thanks in advance!
and long live ørestad! :D
Blue Viking October 15th, 2007, 09:54 PM I don't know, but what is it with you and this guy Bjarne Ingels?? :lol:
Hviid October 15th, 2007, 09:59 PM /\ hey hey watch the language!! We got kids roaming these forums you know!!!
(lets just hope cphdude doesn't look at this thread..) ;)
EDK_DK October 16th, 2007, 11:20 AM And, does anybody know if the Fields 2 will include the long planed hotel highrise? Wasn't it supposed to be at this location??
The ongoing construction next to Fields is the new Parking-celler - supposed to open in late 2008. After that the hotel and cinema complex will go UC...
Blue Viking October 16th, 2007, 11:33 AM Technically that is true. But they will continue to build the cinema as well. I think the fate of the hotel etc. is still undecided - check this link (in Danish only):
http://www.oravis.dk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=260&Itemid=900
cphdude October 16th, 2007, 02:06 PM /\ hey hey watch the language!! We got kids roaming these forums you know!!!
(lets just hope cphdude doesn't look at this thread..) ;)
oh, christ...You make one gay joke, and suddenly you are the big gay basher....:ohno::lol::cheers:
Jarmo K October 16th, 2007, 02:39 PM ssssssssssso i guess none of you know. good.
i guess this forum is not for people really interested in architecture...
Hviid October 17th, 2007, 11:05 PM ssssssssssso i guess none of you know. good.
i guess this forum is not for people really interested in architecture...
since when has this forum been about anything even closely related to architecture? Seriously... :bash:
ANYWAY... back on topic... I think gays should be aloud to marry lesbians :) I think it would do good for the entire planet! I've written a 12 page analysis describing in detail my exact opinions of this topic which you can all find here (http://www.imbored.com/).
cphdude> May a curse be braught on ye and all ye homo sexual sluthery! :bash:
cphdude October 18th, 2007, 04:50 PM cphdude> May a curse be braught on ye and all ye homo sexual sluthery! :bash:
Hey, my boyfriend can kick your boyfriends ass....:horse: :tyty: :cheer:
Blue Viking October 19th, 2007, 12:41 AM ^^^^ You guys are hilarious! :lol: :lol:
I forgot to say earlier that I was pleased to see the Cab Inn U/C and the new KLP building which doesn't look bad at all. To start some debate around here, maybe I can ask some of the forumers a few questions. Kipple, could you tell us more about what your experience of living in Ørestad is like? And Knilaus, it looks like a great place you've bought out there. What kind of expectations about life in Ørestad do you have?
cphdude October 19th, 2007, 10:36 AM ^^I actually tried to ask them that a few posts back, but noone answered, so I hope we can hear about it now...
Blue Viking October 19th, 2007, 03:05 PM Ok, I hadn't noticed. Sorry. Anyway, I'll just rephrase my question. What kind of answers did you, cphdude, expect to get when you asked your question a few pages back?
;-)
PS. I ask this question in the sincerest non-gay AND non-gay-bashing fashion
knilaus October 19th, 2007, 04:20 PM ..
knilaus October 19th, 2007, 04:47 PM ..
cphdude October 20th, 2007, 01:21 PM Ok, I hadn't noticed. Sorry. Anyway, I'll just rephrase my question. What kind of answers did you, cphdude, expect to get when you asked your question a few pages back?
;-)
PS. I ask this question in the sincerest non-gay AND non-gay-bashing fashion
Pretty muc the same as you asked. what is it like to live out there, what the generalurban life like, is there any shopping besides fields etc..But I see Knilaus as now responded, so it worked that you also asked...
knilaus October 20th, 2007, 11:10 PM ..
Blue Viking October 20th, 2007, 11:54 PM Thanks for the description, Knilaus. I think it's great for you that you will be living so close to nature. And a public roof top terrace sounds great! You seem to be a bit of an outdoor person - but I guess you must also have some love for skyscrapers since you've found your way to SSC :lol:
Has anyone heard any news about the Holistic House recently? If they do it right - and it isn't prohibitively expensive to go there - HH could be a great addition to Ørestad.
What are the mobile økohaver? Sounds crazy to me :nuts: :)
Anyway, I think I might just have to go to Vestamager and have a look Vestamager soon!
Thanks! They've sold 45 out of 165 now but sales are likely to grow corresponding with the building rising out of the ground I assume.
It's a good question what to expect when moving out there. One thing we can be sure to see is cranes. And a lot of them. The Stævnen project is the first to be finished in Ørestad Syd but by the time we move in (around September 2008) a number of other projects will have started construction.
The first year after moving in - 2009 - is likely to be characterised by desolation, ongoing building projects and bringing home full shopping bags on the metro. By 2010 the area immediately around Stævnen should have settled in with people beginning to move into the neighbouring buildings. Also, a local supermarket is scheduled to start operating by then. I imagine the area will then be visited more by people from the Kongelunden area and most likely also by people from Ørestad City going on weekend excursions to explore the new architecture and Kalvebod Fælled, which by then should have been released for public access. 2011 will probably be the year when the area starts to claim its own identity by virtue of having a certain number of residents and employers moving in and with the public spaces such as parks and squares in a finished state.
We moved to Ørestad Syd instead of moving to the suburbs so our expectations of life in the area will be coloured by a realisation that we are not as active participants in metropolitan life as we once were. Thus the increased distance to the city centre will not be seen as that much of a problem. The bigger flat will serve as the base for our family life with its private balcony, backyard terrace and public rooftop terrace. Also, the surrounding areas including such places as the basin south of the borough, Kalvebod Commons itself, Kongelund Forest and the Traktørstedet Natural playground will provide venues for recreation. Hopefully, the "Holistic House" project could also eventually provide some interesting wellness experiences at a friendly neighbourhood discount. Furthermore, the area will be quite well connected through the Øresund trains and the metro so getting to Islands Brygge or Amager Strandpark will be easy and speedy.
Personally, I plan to intensify open air exercise such as running and bicycling in the huge areas of the Kalvebod Commons and probably I'll also end up walking around the marshland in my huge LaCrosse boots with photographic equipment. I'll probably also bring friends and family for wildlife camping trips to one of the many shelter facilities of the commons.
We're having some ideas about using one of the rooms in the new flat as a 'guestroom' where we can host visiting friends and family from France. At the same time we hope to get room for a library/study. In any case furnishing the new flat - and its terraces - will be an entertaining exercise.
We also hope to involve ourselves with our neighbours to take part in making the new borough a lively one. For example, the Ørestad Mobile Økohaver could be an interesting way to meet fellow residents.
Further into the future there are interesting issues, which involve the quality of schools and kindergartens in the area, trying to convince IKEA and Silvan to set up shop out here as well as the possibility of larger companies setting up offices in the commercial district just south of the highway, which would provide the possibility for getting a good job close to where you live.
This is more or less what I expect our Ørestad Syd experience to turn into. I think this part of Ørestad will be significantly different from those of Ørestad City or Nord and look forward to participating in making it come through.
knilaus October 21st, 2007, 11:22 AM ..
cphdude October 21st, 2007, 11:33 AM You've never asked me the question that Blue Viking asked. In any case I don't live out there yet so how could I answer your question of "how it is to live out there?"
This is what I wrote in 362.
looks great. I was wondering if you guys wouldnt mind telling us a little bit more about the "urban" progress and living out there...Are there any shops and restaurants besides fields? Any life after 5 and that sought of thing...
And finally, welcome to the forum Kipple...:)
It seams pretty much the same, but no biggie....
Kipple October 21st, 2007, 01:25 PM Hello Guys!
Heres a little report on what it feels like living in Ørestad City:
My main reasons for getting a flat in Ørestaden:
- New flats
- Nice architecture around you
- Lots of green stuff right next to you. (i like it better than a seaview)
- Seeing a new city being built and being a part of it.
- Decent pricelevel.
The Good:
- Being able to get to both Hovedbanegården and Kongens Nytorv in aprox. 10 mins by the means of public transportation.
- The pioneer spirit of moving to a brand new "city". Being a part of the growth
- Nature right next to you!!!!! YEAH!!
- I have a really nice panoramic view of the park from my flat. Especially nice when doing kitchen stuff. Every single day at random moments i find myself just standing looking out the windows at all the things going on outside (construction, people etc.) The park has got a special place in my heart already :yes:
- Brand new flats. Very bright white walls and good materials. Good windows block out noise from outside. Dont really get much noise from neighbours either.
- Ørestaden as a concept is itself quite cool. For me its feels very progressive, visionary and i think its going to be quite a nice neighbourhood in 5 years.
- Fields
- Bilka with its long opening hours and big selection of goods.
- And of course: living right next to cool looking buildings!!!! :banana: (i moved from Øresundskollegiet on northern amager, where all the buildings look the same and in fact seem a bit depressing)
- The cultural life seems to be getting better; more things/events going on.
The Bad:
- Not very much roaming life in the streets.... BUT its constantly improving!:)
- Carparking. You know the deal. 1000 kr pr month. That sucks bigtime....
- No cafés yet, no restaurants or no smaller supermarkets (such as 7eleven)
- Living near construction sites can also be a bit annoying. Though i havent really heard as much noise from them as i had expected. I have hardly heard any.
- Wastedisposal. Not fully established yet at Golfparken. We still need some place to put bigger trash than what fits in the garbagechute.
- The streets could be much more green. I WANT MORE TREES+GRASS.
- Bilka with its long lines :lol:
- Mudd. I get muddy shoes quite often.
- No good store where you can buy cds or dvds.:ohno: I WANT TPmusik and FONA!!!
- Did i mention carparking????
Thats all i can think of right now.
Blue Viking October 22nd, 2007, 11:27 PM - I have a really nice panoramic view of the park from my flat. Especially nice when doing kitchen stuff. Every single day at random moments i find myself just standing looking out the windows at all the things going on outside (construction, people etc.) The park has got a special place in my heart already :yes:
Hi Kipple
Thanks for the description! I especially envy you your view! May I ask what floor you live on?
Too bad with the parking problems.
How has the shopping problem been resolved? I thought all shopping square metres in Ørestad were reserved for Fields. But apparently that has changes since they will be making a supermarket in Ørestad syd and other shopping options in Ørestad centre?
CBR October 22nd, 2007, 11:33 PM Hey everyone,
Since I also live in Ørestad City, Copenhagen Golfpark as mentioned in an earlier post I also wanted to post my experiences of living out here.
I am really happy out here and even though there are bad things, most things are good and my overall impresssion is very positive.
In fact I agree fully with Kipple's list of good and bad things, so no need to repeat it here...
Happy to hear that I'm not the only one having problems with the car parking situation, but of course I already knew that :-).
Best regards,
CBR
Kipple October 23rd, 2007, 01:09 AM I am on the third floor.
As far as i know theres room for a small supermarket in Parkhusene, but the space is empty with a "For rent" sign in it. And then Porthuset is going to get both a café and a supermarket. Others spots for cafés are in "Domicilhuset" as well as in "Sejlhuset". Looking forward to seeing them open.... :)
The "concession-agreement" (http://www.orestad.dk/index/erhverv/dagligvareudbud.htm) which Ørestadsselskabet wants to make in Ørestad Syd seems very suspicous to me, seen from a competitionlaw point of view. Such an agreement will grant one company a monopoly in the supermarket segment in Ørestad Syd and is therefore not a really nice thing per definition. Looking forward to seeing the danish competition agency (konkurrencestyrelsen) do a judicial review of the agreement. If they are not going to do a review that would be quite questionable as i see it.
NEWS: Construction of the Citypark has commenced....
http://www.orestad.dk/byparken
Posting pictures within the next week....
I am representing Golfparken in the matters of the park. I attended a meeting in the "follow-up" group about the park a few weeks ago which was very interesting. The park is going to become a very very nice place when its done (I hope:) )
I also think that the whole carparking thing is one big judicial mess. The decision from the city counsel that gave Ørestadsparkering a monopoly on the parking situation i Ørestaden might be challanged. The VERY STEEP prices for parking might also be challenged for constituting a misuse of a dominant position. It would be very nice to see such a challenge through the courts(by suing the city counsel and ØSS), but the risk of losing the cases and ending up with a bill for their hot shot and expensive lawyers would be to great. :ohno:
Blue Viking: BTW congrats on the win! 2-0 was a nice result. Too bad against AC Horsens. Lyngby deserved the win in that game too. Being yellow and blue i am also happy after this weekends game. :)
CBR October 25th, 2007, 03:07 PM It seems that Copenhagen Golfpark Sunset is now almost finished. The first people are starting to move in now.
I saw people in some of the apartments last night. But I think it's only a small part of the apartments that are finished now.. Hopefully they will make the courtyard a lot nicer in the coming months. Right now it looks terrible and muddy... and I don't think it's very easy for the new people moving in to get all their furniture etc. moved with the bad access roads to the building at the moment.
acebone October 30th, 2007, 02:03 PM Ferring tower expands with two smaller towers at Kay Fiskars Plads. The construction is expected to start this year. Henning Larsen Architects has designed the new complex. A new black three stories building with two towers with different height on top of it. The highest "tower" will be eight stories.
So now we can add one more project to the long list of projects starting up in 2007 in Ørestad.
andreas01 October 30th, 2007, 02:51 PM Ferring tower expands with two smaller towers at Kay Fiskars Plads. The construction is expected to start this year. Henning Larsen Architects has designed the new complex. A new black three stories building with two towers with different height on top of it. The highest "tower" will be eight stories.
So now we can add one more project to the long list of projects starting up in 2007 in Ørestad.
^^Sounds Intresting. Any renderings?
Blue Viking October 30th, 2007, 05:11 PM Blue Viking: BTW congrats on the win! 2-0 was a nice result. Too bad against AC Horsens. Lyngby deserved the win in that game too. Being yellow and blue i am also happy after this weekends game. :)
Ups, sorry I didn't see this before. Thank you very much. Unfortunately they weren't as lucky this weekend. This Sunday they will be playing against Brøndby but I will be in Berlin so I won't be able to see the match. It is good to see the yellow and blue doing better now - they really don't belong in the bottom. And we need you to fight our common enemy #1!
Blue Viking October 30th, 2007, 05:26 PM ^^ Ok, mayb a bit OT
Ferring tower expands with two smaller towers at Kay Fiskars Plads. The construction is expected to start this year. Henning Larsen Architects has designed the new complex. A new black three stories building with two towers with different height on top of it. The highest "tower" will be eight stories.
So now we can add one more project to the long list of projects starting up in 2007 in Ørestad.
I thought that area would continue to be a public square. But I guess it's ok to build there since noboby ever uses that area. If it's a change of plans that might explain why the plot is numbered "5a" in this document: http://www.orestad.dk/status_22_august.pdf.
FREKI October 30th, 2007, 05:32 PM More Ferring - that's great news!
I don't usually like dark buildings, but the first Ferring grew on me and now I would welcome more of that design out there with open arms..
8 stories aint much, but it's better than nothing right :)
knilaus October 31st, 2007, 10:56 AM ..
Pisling October 31st, 2007, 11:19 AM ^^ It seems like it. Here's some news (http://borsen.dk/privatokonomi/nyhed/119358/) about the Copenhagen Towers project. Unfortunately it's only available in Danish.
knilaus October 31st, 2007, 11:23 AM ..
Plogger October 31st, 2007, 12:10 PM It looks really nice, especially the office tower designed by foster! It must be one the best looking highrises coming up in cph!
:)
Blue Viking October 31st, 2007, 12:22 PM THanks Pisling and Knilaus!! You've made my day. The Foster tower is amazing by Danish standards. Also a lot better than the Tivoli-tower.
I guess this will be NIMBY-target no 1 since their main mission seems to be to stop all good looking tall buildings, that might ruin their cause, from being built.
http://www.23hq.com/knilaus/photo/2558952/original
The office tower designed by Foster and partners
mlm October 31st, 2007, 12:24 PM Very cool. Finally Ferring will get some company. :)
I'll update the Highrise thread later today when I get home.
TMG October 31st, 2007, 01:22 PM Thanks for the update.
I like both projects, and they will fit in nicely with Ferring and the Liebeskinds Towers in Ørestad downtown. Can´t wait to see the projects finished.
Jarmo K October 31st, 2007, 01:25 PM heeeey.
am i the only one who actually liked the foster+partners' tivoli tower?!
i mean... it would have become quite a new symbol for cph. it was unique, with its own character. beautiful? in my subjective opinion - yes! i know tastes vary but it wasn't THAT bad?!?
but this new foster+partners tower... whattahell? it's just a highrise building with curved facades - there are hundreds of similar buildings (planned) in the world... booo-oooring! not that it isn't a nice tower - it is! but what i'd like to know: WHY choose FOSTER+PARTNERS to design such a tower? waste of talent, i'd say... waste of a superb opportunity to get a landmark for orestad...
fortunately the libeskind towers will be a lot better :D
ØlandDK October 31st, 2007, 01:27 PM Damn that's some good news. The Fosters tower looks really nice!:yes:
How tall will it be? around 80m?
ØlandDK October 31st, 2007, 01:29 PM heeeey.
am i the only one who actually liked the foster+partners' tivoli tower?!
i mean... it would have become quite a new symbol for cph. it was unique, with its own character. beautiful? in my subjective opinion - yes! i know tastes vary but it wasn't THAT bad?!?
but this new foster+partners tower... whattahell? it's just a highrise building with curved facades - there are hundreds of similar buildings (planned) in the world... booo-oooring! not that it isn't a nice tower - it is! but what i'd like to know: WHY choose FOSTER+PARTNERS to design such a tower? waste of talent, i'd say... waste of a superb opportunity to get a landmark for orestad...
fortunately the libeskind towers will be a lot better :D
I kinda liked the Tivoli tower too - it was really something special.
Urbanus October 31st, 2007, 02:06 PM I kinda liked the Tivoli tower too - it was really something special.
I agree. I loved the Tivoli tower, that was an amazing piece of great architecture. It is not easy to fit such a large tower into a place like that, and Fosters did it really nice and unique.
This new tower for Ørestad is not a world class architecture of the same caliber. Not at all!!
I agree, in a global context it is ordinary, not very tall and nothing special. And with the opportunities such a new delelopment area gives, I can undertand if you a bit disapointed.
However I can't helt being a very happy man today. Looking back on the many projects that have never been, and looking at the poor architectural standards we have here when it comes to new building, this is a great big step forward. Not much from an international point of view, but extremely much for a city as Copenhagen.
And the fact that it is approved, financed and goes UC immidiately makes it even better. Personally I like the Liebeskind and Bella Center towers better, but they are still not UC - and here in Copenhagen everything that is not UC is still very uncertain, as we have seen too many great projects die because os NIMBYs, lost of finance, lost og demand or all other kind of things that can go wrong.
It's a great day for Copenhagen!!! :banana:
cphdude October 31st, 2007, 02:08 PM omg,i t looks amazing. I was really nervous about this one based on the preveous renderings, but it is just perfect....
CBR October 31st, 2007, 05:11 PM Copenhagen Towers is looking really cool!
For those of us living in Ørestad it will be very interesting to follow this and all the other projects closely over the next couple of years.
Those of you who haven't bought an apartment out here yet, better hurry up before the prices get too high again :lol: Just kidding, but at least it's projects like this and the Ørestad Downtown project that will help sell Ørestad as an interesting place to live.
By the way, www.copenhagentowers.dk has been updated today. Now with a downloadable "press kit" available as well.
CBR
TORONTOCOPENHAGEN October 31st, 2007, 05:38 PM This is FANTASTIC news. As I see it there will be a total of three towers.
It is nice to see that we get another international hotel chain in Copenhagen:
- Le Méridien
- Hilton
- Marriott
- Crowne Plaza
Gotta love it!
cphdude October 31st, 2007, 05:58 PM Copenhagen Towers is looking really cool!
For those of us living in Ørestad it will be very interesting to follow this and all the other projects closely over the next couple of years.
Those of you who haven't bought an apartment out here yet, better hurry up before the prices get too high again :lol: Just kidding, but at least it's projects like this and the Ørestad Downtown project that will help sell Ørestad as an interesting place to live.
By the way, www.copenhagentowers.dk has been updated today. Now with a downloadable "press kit" available as well.
CBR
Perhaps this may be the first project in copenhagen/ørestadens life to get an individual thread with news and picture updates from people out there....?
something to think about....
Blue Viking October 31st, 2007, 06:36 PM This is FANTASTIC news. As I see it there will be a total of three towers.
It is nice to see that we get another international hotel chain in Copenhagen:
- Le Méridien
- Hilton
- Marriott
- Crowne Plaza
Gotta love it!
They bought the rights to build 3 towers - and I also see 3 different towers in the rendering. But I think in the first stage they will only build 2.
Anyway, where is Le Meridien going to be? Is that the Bella Centre hotel?
acebone October 31st, 2007, 08:57 PM First of all: great to finally see some renderings of Copenhagen Towers I have been waiting for a lont time and expected a lot - and I am not disappointed. It looks great.
Second a follow up on the Ferring project. It is not the company Ferring that will expand. The tower is owned by Norrporten and they will expand it. I think that the plan is more offices in the towers and a mini-mal in the ground floor.
Kay Fiskars Plads will not disappear but will hopefully become a place where people will start to hang out when Ferring expands and KLP 3 gets built. Then the square will become much smaller and surrounded by tall buildings with shops in the ground floor. Sounds good to me. And as the park in Ørestad City I know there is also a project to improve Kay Fiskars Plads when the surrounding buildings get finished.
By the way I received my flat in Porthuset today and I must say that compared to one year ago life in the streets and park have improved a lot.
TORONTOCOPENHAGEN October 31st, 2007, 09:10 PM The current Palace Hotel on Rådhuspladsen will be turned into a Le Méridien.
See www.palacehotel.dk
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ch1le October 31st, 2007, 09:19 PM uh god, what a disappointment, the crowne plaza highrise is pretty ugly, really, and Foster could have done SO much better...
TORONTOCOPENHAGEN October 31st, 2007, 09:36 PM Mr Ch1le you are entitled to have your opinion and I am pretty sure that you cannot change the fact that we here in Copenhagen are THRILLED about the project.
mlm October 31st, 2007, 09:43 PM For those who didn't see it, there is a little discussion in the "All new Danish Highrises" thread about the small building in front of the towers. It'll probably fit better here, so I'll continue it here.
First, I don't like the little building, and would much rather see a nice plaza with a big entrance to the towers, and some fountains and some big sculptures/art. To me, it looks like it doesn't fit in at all, and that it's only build to squeeze in a few extra square meters. Here's a close up from the rendering, if you don't know what I'm talking about:
http://www.mikaellykmadsen.dk/skyscrapercity/denmark/copenhagentowers-base.jpg
What do you think?
ØlandDK October 31st, 2007, 10:19 PM I would prefer something like this:
http://www.nuneaton-online.org.uk/images/modern/Roanne%20fountain%20in%20Nuneaton.jpg
...a cafë in the ground floor of either the office building or the hotel and some benches around the fountain...
ØlandDK October 31st, 2007, 10:29 PM from the All new Danish highrises forum:
On the Copenhagen Towers (http://www.copenhagentowers.dk) website, there's a rendering from the other side of the motorway, showing the planned 3rd tower. I'm sure it's not the real design, but it's still a good indication of what what we can expect, or atleast the location of it. The hotel tower is of course hidden behind the Foster office tower:
http://www.mikaellykmadsen.dk/skyscrapercity/denmark/copenhagentowers4.jpg
couldn't that be the last tower you see there?
on this rendering (http://www.mikaellykmadsen.dk/skyscrapercity/denmark/copenhagentowers3.jpg)it seems like the hotel is located further to the back (away from the e20)
maybe something like this:
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/2561/copenhagentowers4tl5.png
mlm October 31st, 2007, 10:49 PM /\ Again yes, like I've written in the other thread. The hotel tower is just futher back than on your drawing = it is hidden behind the Foster tower.
ØlandDK October 31st, 2007, 11:07 PM ah okay...maybe I read your first post to fast:D
mlm October 31st, 2007, 11:16 PM ;)
Btw, before this post, we had exactly the same number of posts: 1,197 :D
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TORONTOCOPENHAGEN November 1st, 2007, 11:01 PM I have heard rumours that Holiday Inn will operate the hotel near Bella Center.
P
cphdude November 2nd, 2007, 01:01 AM I have heard rumours that Holiday Inn will operate the hotel near Bella Center.
P
Lets just see it build first. Any news on that front?
FREKI November 2nd, 2007, 01:56 AM How tall will it be? around 80m?85m I believe :happy:
ØlandDK November 2nd, 2007, 07:08 AM 85m I believe :happy:
Now I can read mlm's posts myself...:D
ØlandDK November 2nd, 2007, 07:11 AM ;)
Btw, before this post, we had exactly the same number of posts: 1,197 :D
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now we got the same again...:cheers:...okay sorry for going of topic once again...btw thanks for keeping the all dk highrises updated...great job;)
tournesol November 2nd, 2007, 10:19 AM Overall this is great news. Finally we will have some towers UNDER CONSTRUCTION in Ørestad. :cheers:
The Foster tower is very good - but not exactly something new seen internationally. But in Denmark any tower with a non-boxy-look is something new, and this one I recon will have a positive impact on the general highrise debate.
The Hotel tower (that has been revealed in earlier renderings) is OK, but more traditional danish boxy style . It very much depends on how the facade turns out in the end.
And I'm quite sure that the third tower in one rendering is only a "placeholder", and not the final design. And when this 2nd stage will be build is still unclear. But notice that the Copenhagen Towers logo (on their website) shows 3 towers, so I'd say that's it's certain that it will come - it's not just an optional expansion... :)
gangigaden November 2nd, 2007, 12:13 PM Great news! We are getting a "cluster" in the Ørestad!
But I am bit confused about how far these towers a placed from Ferring and the planned Libeskind-tower - does anybody have a map with all of them plotted in?
acebone November 2nd, 2007, 12:26 PM They are quite close to each other. You can see a map here:
http://www.orestad.dk/status_22_august.pdf
Here you can see that there will be 9 towers (2XLiebeskind, Fields, Ferring, 3X Copenhagen Towers and 2 NCC south of the highway) very close to the highway and the two bellacenter towers a bit further away.
knilaus November 2nd, 2007, 12:53 PM They are quite close to each other. You can see a map here:
http://www.orestad.dk/status_22_august.pdf
Here you can see that there will be 9 towers (2XLiebeskind, Fields, Ferring, 3X Copenhagen Towers and 2 NCC south of the highway) very close to the highway and the two bellacenter towers a bit further away.
Ideally, somebody should make a custom Google Map with the approximate location, height and names of these towers - it would be a bit more userfriendly to people not familiar with the geography and layout of Copenhagen/Ørestad than having to browse through twenty pages of PDF :)
In addition to the increasingly phantom towers of the Bella Hotel I think we should add the already u/c "Little Tower (http://www.bighouse.dk)" in Ørestad Syd, which is the same distance away from the central cluster - even if it will only be around 50 metres/16 floors tall.
copenhagenjazz November 2nd, 2007, 01:16 PM Looks really nice and yeah its "almost" a small cluster :P Now who would have thought we would ever get that!
How far away from the cluster will the 2 Bella Center towers be? And sorry in advance for my geographically lack of knowledge on this matter :)
Blue Viking November 2nd, 2007, 01:34 PM I would guess around 1 km. Coming by metro from the centre of town they will definitely look as if they are part of the cluster. I hope they get built - although they aren't as tall as Ferring or the Foster building, they are my favourite buildings for Ørestad.
Urbanus November 2nd, 2007, 02:01 PM I would guess around 1 km. Coming by metro from the centre of town they will definitely look as if they are part of the cluster. I hope they get built - although they aren't as tall as Ferring or the Foster building, they are my favourite buildings for Ørestad.
I agree completely. It will be a great view when you come to Ørestad from the center.
It starts to worry me that nothing is happening with the Bella Center towers. They're my favorite buildings in the Ørestad too! They seemed like the surest thing in the spring. They just needed the approval, and then everything was ready to go a head. It have been approved for almost half a year now, and nothing happened. Not even preparation or early ground work. Nothing at all.
knilaus November 2nd, 2007, 04:14 PM ..
tournesol November 2nd, 2007, 04:44 PM ^^ Very good work, knilaus :okay:
Can't wait to see this little cluster growing up :)
Urbanus, I share your worries. The complete silence from the Bella Center doesn't seem like a very good sign... :(
cphdude November 4th, 2007, 01:43 PM ^^ Very good work, knilaus :okay:
Can't wait to see this little cluster growing up :)
Urbanus, I share your worries. The complete silence from the Bella Center doesn't seem like a very good sign... :(
I would not call it a complete silence. They said a moth or so ago that it was delayed because they could not finda contractor and that it would not be done by the fall of 2009 as promised...
So it is probably coming, just not yet. A problem ofcouse for the IOC congress and the climate summet (estimated to bring in 2-3 times as many people as there are rooms in the city).
I am overall more worried about the multiarena, which now seams to be dead and burried...Sadly...
tournesol November 4th, 2007, 03:23 PM ^^ I was thinking of complete silence SINCE that statement your mention ;)
But I agree that it probably wont the totally cancelled. I just fear that if they can't have it completed for the IOC congress anyway, then they might choose to but it on hold for the time being.
I share your worries about the multiarena. It seems it depends on support from the government, and so far it doesn't seem like we can expect any help from them.
Maybe after the elections?
Blue Viking November 4th, 2007, 11:11 PM A multiarena out there would be very nice. I am also pleased to see a cinema being built. Hopefully they'll remember to include a 3D-cinema....
Nice work, Knilaus! :cheers: Now we just need someone to do the Sketchup job! Any volounteers?? :) :nudge nudge: :nuts: :cheers:
Urbanus November 5th, 2007, 10:21 AM I'm afraid we must accept the fact that Copenhagen will never get a real multiarena. And that's a shame.
Parken (PS&E) is building a smaller arena with a lower capcity, and Malmø is building a real arena with high capacity. Also PS&E have the option to put a roof on Parken.
Therefor I don't think anyone will dare to build another arena, with a risky economy. The market potential will not be there.
And that is a real pitty for Copenhagen that surely will miss to have a big arena with a capacity of more than 10.000. And it will probably also cost us a lot of events, concerts, conventions etc.
And it is a real shame for Ørestad that would have really gained a lot of benefit from such an arena near Bella Center. That would have boosted the potential for night life, cafes, bars, restaurants etc. - and would have give live to the area in the evenings. The area desperately needs something to attract people to the area after 20.00, when the shops at Field's are closed, and the workers at the many offices have left. Any kind of cultural venue would be nice - a cinema (I know one is planned at Field's, but still need to be build - right now only the parking celler is UC, the cinema is still uncertain), a theater or something. The DR Byen Concert hall will be too far away from Ørestad city, Copenhagen city will feel closer. A multiarena at Bella Center would have been just perfect.
cphdude November 14th, 2007, 10:42 AM I'm afraid we must accept the fact that Copenhagen will never get a real multiarena. And that's a shame.
Parken (PS&E) is building a smaller arena with a lower capcity, and Malmø is building a real arena with high capacity. Also PS&E have the option to put a roof on Parken.
Therefor I don't think anyone will dare to build another arena, with a risky economy. The market potential will not be there.
And that is a real pitty for Copenhagen that surely will miss to have a big arena with a capacity of more than 10.000. And it will probably also cost us a lot of events, concerts, conventions etc.
And it is a real shame for Ørestad that would have really gained a lot of benefit from such an arena near Bella Center. That would have boosted the potential for night life, cafes, bars, restaurants etc. - and would have give live to the area in the evenings. The area desperately needs something to attract people to the area after 20.00, when the shops at Field's are closed, and the workers at the many offices have left. Any kind of cultural venue would be nice - a cinema (I know one is planned at Field's, but still need to be build - right now only the parking celler is UC, the cinema is still uncertain), a theater or something. The DR Byen Concert hall will be too far away from Ørestad city, Copenhagen city will feel closer. A multiarena at Bella Center would have been just perfect.
Yeah. I dont really understand it either. As I have said over on sidelinien.dk many times, I really doesnt make any sence to me. We (the danes) are spending more and more money on culture, concerts, events, sports etc. and with a multiarena we could get a lot more of that. Plus everyone agrees it willbe financially beneficial to the owners and to the state and city. Based on that, I really dont understand how itis not possible to gather the money for this, and I really dont understand why the govermet just wont give a low interest loan or something in that nature, when they know how much it means.
The danish Volleyball Association said they would like to apply for the Euro cup in 2011 and a arena like this would help. Now The Danish Swiming Association says they would also like to host the World cup soon. They have the aplication ready, but without a multiarena, they wont even bother sending it....
So it is basicly prett ymuch what I have said before. All the money being spend on aplying for things now are just wasted, because what we rally need is themultiarena, then the rest will sort it self out...
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