The BIG HUGE Copenhagen Ørestad Thread | Projects & Construction [Archive] - Page 8

Kipple

November 19th, 2008, 09:09 PM

Going home from work yesterday i noticed that the projectors on top of segment 1 of DR Byen were apparently on. So i got of the metro at DR Byen station and walked up to DR Byen.

And the projectors were truly on as a test-run intended for the top of DR, according to a DR-employee that i talked too. (he was running the projector-program on a laptop)

It was an AMAZING sight!!!!!:cheer:

The whole wall of the concert hall was like a upright sea of waves. It looked like waves were in 3D going in and out from the wall. Along with the waves were some other types of video-effects. I was stunned by the sight....

I bet that the projector-feature will in itself be a tourist attraction. It was that spectacular in my opinion.

There is going to be a total of 22 projectors placed all around the concert hall. The first official projector-show is going to be on the 17th of january 2009 at the grand opening of the concert hall.

There are going to be shows every single day in winter when its dark at night. They are going to make a lot of different shows and unique ones for special DR-events like P3 Guld, the DR-employee told me.

Too bad i did not have my camera with me, so i could have shown you all what it looked like. :(

moveteam

November 19th, 2008, 09:19 PM

Kipple

November 19th, 2008, 09:38 PM

Wow sounds great, was the picture crystal clear even in daylight?

The time was close to 18.00, so it was dark. :)

But crystal clear in the dark. Yes.

Though im sure it would have looked even better if all the lights inside the building would have been turned off.

moveteam

November 19th, 2008, 10:09 PM

The time was close to 18.00, so it was dark. :)

But crystal clear in the dark. Yes.

Though im sure it would have looked even better if all the lights inside the building would have been turned off.
Ahh okay thanks :) They are probably only going to to use the projectors at night. Can't wait to see it when it's completely done.

ØlandDK

November 19th, 2008, 10:25 PM

Next time please make a video (mobile phone whatever). :)

But sounds amazing!

Fab 5

November 19th, 2008, 10:48 PM

I might be able to provide some pics pretty soon.

I happened to cross Ørestad tonight and to add to Kipple's observations here are a couple of comments.

Concert hall: They didn't test tonight, but holy fu.. those stands and the projector houses are huge! Sadly they haven't been anywhere near Ateliers Jean Nouvel design-wise - in fact they look quite ugly. I spoke to a knowledgeable person on the DR project and she told me, that right now - and it has been like that for quite some time - it is all about closing the construction case ("lukke byggesagen") ASAP. Things are being carried out in a fast and - sadly - forced way. The simple and cheap solutions are the ones chosen. Nothing fancy anymore. It is all about getting things done really, really fast - and it is not just because of a fast approaching grand opening come January 17th.
On the more positive side, I was amazed, while I wandered by, how clear the glass and the screens really are. It is incredible! They had some work light on inside and with much of the foyer scaffolding now gone, the result was just breathtaking! I have been worried that the meteor effect would never show, however, at least during night with light on inside the foyer, we have nothing to worry about. Nothing. Some of the inside meteor shells have also been put up (I could SEE that:)), and you were actually able to see the meteor effect. It was amazing!!!. The meteor was actually soaring. Fantastic to see.

Outside areas, DR: I posted some pics a couple of weeks ago on the way things are being carried out when it comes to the outside areas of DR Byen metro and segment 1 and 4. My point was and is, that a lot things look as if they are being carried out in a forced and low-cost manner. According to the latest issue of DR's internal newsletter "DRåben" there is now an ongoing discussion within DR on this - so at least I am not the only one who's taken note of this.

Copenhagen Towers, tower II: Piling seems to have been completed and not much else is being carried out at that part of the site (sadly). It seems as if that part is now fully on hold. Crowne Plaza, BTW, topped out today.

moveteam

November 20th, 2008, 07:48 AM

cphdude

November 20th, 2008, 03:57 PM

pisjus bum-bum-bum

pisjos bum-bum-bum....

knilaus

November 20th, 2008, 07:04 PM

Fab 5

November 20th, 2008, 09:25 PM

pisjus bum-bum-bum

pisjos bum-bum-bum....

Did I miss something?

moveteam

November 20th, 2008, 09:31 PM

Did I miss something?
Pictures already?! :lol:

Fab 5

November 20th, 2008, 09:38 PM

^^Not yet:)

CBR

November 20th, 2008, 10:14 PM

Hi everyone!

Thanks for all the latest picture updates and other information..
I don't post much in here, but really enjoy reading your updates.

Googling for news about Copenhagen Towers I found this page with a lot of great pictures of Ørestad taken from the crane at Copenhagen Towers (supposed to be at 110 meters)

http://www.bechmanns.dk/?p=65
http://www.bechmanns.dk/?p=69

Enjoy..

Fab 5

November 20th, 2008, 10:20 PM

^^WOW!

Lars_HH

November 20th, 2008, 10:24 PM

Sakset fra borsen:

Dagligvarekæde til Ørestad City

Originalartiklen skrevet af Peter B. Rasmussen

Ejendoms- og udviklingsselskabet Ceraco har netop sikret en aftale med detailkæden Irma. Irma har tegnet en lejeaftale med Ceraco Development om 670 kvadradmeter i Ceracos projekt Kobberhuset på hjørnet af Arne Jacobsens Allé og Edvard Thomsens Vej. Byggeriet sættes dog først i gang, når Ceraco har udlejet en væsentlig del af kontorbygningerne i Kobberhuset. "Kontorejendommen udvikles til Ceracos egen portefølje, og vi stiller store krav til projektets soliditet. Det giver også en sikkerhed for de kommende lejere. Det er første gang Ceraco bygger fra grunden i Københavnsområdet, og Ørestad byder på gode beliggenheder og en veletableret infrastruktur, som vi gerne vil investere i," siger adm. direktør i Ceraco Development Ulrik Bebe. I artiklen nævnes desuden: By & Havn.

staff

November 20th, 2008, 10:42 PM

These have to be some of the best aerial shots I've seen of Örestad;

http://www.bechmanns.dk/wp-content/gallery/cph110/0002.jpg

http://www.bechmanns.dk/wp-content/gallery/cph110/0004.jpg

mlm

November 21st, 2008, 12:37 AM

/\ Sure the dude wants his pics posted here, even linked directly from his site?...

ØlandDK

November 21st, 2008, 12:53 AM

Some really nice pics from that crane. :yes:

...worth a visit is also the "Model og Portræt" pictures...;)

staff

November 21st, 2008, 12:56 AM

/\ Sure the dude wants his pics posted here, even linked directly from his site?...

You're right. I'll link them instead!

mlm

November 21st, 2008, 01:01 AM

/\ :)

But fine they surely are. :)

TMG

November 21st, 2008, 09:25 AM

Truely some great great pictures - thanks.

TORONTOCOPENHAGEN

November 22nd, 2008, 06:54 PM

Nice ones.

I took this one 3 three weeks ago from my room at Hilton.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c278/torontocopenhagen/IMG_1077.jpg

FREKI

November 22nd, 2008, 07:05 PM

^nice! :)

The Ferring comes off really well for the airport, even from the plane when you land and the uocommingcompany will do it well :)

Nagel

November 22nd, 2008, 08:42 PM

Nice pic from the airport indeed! We just need a handful more towers in Ørestad. Like, soon!!

What really cracks me up is that with the imposed 85 meter limit on the height of buildings in Ørestad for the sake of a radar, we must really hope that those 130 meter cranes visible in the photo don't cause any ghost images on the screens in the control tower.

NFLineast

November 22nd, 2008, 10:06 PM

http://www.berlingske.dk/article/20081122/koebenhavn/711220037/

Udbygningen af København med luksusboliger og erhvervsbyggeri i prisbelønnet verdensarkitektur er gået totalt i stå. Kun de bygninger i Ørestad og langs havnefronten, hvor spaden er sat i jorden, bliver i bedste fald bygget færdige. Resten af grundene kommer til at ligge hen som brakmarker i årevis, mens recession, bolig- og finanskrise holder boligpriserne i bund.

»Vi har ingen grunde til salg, for der er ikke noget marked i bevægelse i øjeblikket. Det er ærgerligt, men det er sådan, det er,« siger Jens Kramer Mikkelsen, direktør for By og Havn, som ejer grundene i udviklingsområderne.

By og Havn har byggegrunde med plads til mere end 1,5 mio. etagekvadratmeter liggende på de lukkede salgshylder. Det svarer til en halv Ørestad og mere end 2.000 lejligheder.

Hovedparten af de usolgte grunde ligger da også i Ørestad City og Ørestad Syd, hvor kun to boligbyggerier og et hotelbyggeri fortsat er i gang.

Dertil kommer, at mindst 10-15 af de store byggegrunde, der allerede er solgt, kommer til at ligge brak, formentlig i flere år ud i fremtiden.

Berlingske Tidende har kontaktet en lang række bygherrer, der allerede har købt grunde især i den sydlige del af Ørestad. Og svaret er entydigt:

Der kommer ingen byggekraner. Stort tænkte masterplaner og bolig- og erhvervsbyggerier tegnet af prisbelønnede arkitekter og tegnestuer som amerikanske Steven Holl og Daniel Libeskind samt danske Kim Utzon og Vilhelm Lauritzen er sat på hold.

»Vi har lagt planerne i skuffen, men håber, at de kommer op igen en dag. Jeg ved jo ikke, hvordan verden ser ud om fem år,« siger en af bygherrerne, direktør for City Development, Mads Nørby Hansen,

Det er primært Ørestaden, der vil se et stop i udbygningen, men også områder ved Københavns Havn er sat på standby. Det gælder f.eks. Teglværkshavnen og Enghave Brygge i Sydhavnen.

Hertil kommer, at der ikke er købere til en meget stor del af de boligblokke, der allerede er bygget. Salget af ejerlejligheder er også gået fuldstændigt i stå, og der er lige så store problemer med at få lejet de dyre lejligheder ud. I det prisbelønnede VM Bjerget i Ørestad er der eksempelvis solgt under 20 af 80 lejligheder.

Zichau

November 22nd, 2008, 11:30 PM

^^

That isn't excatly a surprize. There's a global finance-crises at the moment. What is the point with this article. To say "Ha, ha, you shouldn't have build anything?"
Except for China they aren't building anything anywhere. When the world starts to get better, so will Denmark. What's new? :ohno:

ramblersen

November 23rd, 2008, 04:26 AM

When things are going well everybody is being to optimistic and when things start to go wrong everybody becomes too pessimistic. People should take a drap breath sometimes. For years people - including the media - has lamented the sky-rocketing prices on the ressidential market. But if the economy was booming and all new apartments were sold overnight, prices would continure to go up. For them to go down a bit, we have to see some hardships. It's as simple as that. But prices has gone up too fast due to greedy real estate fealers and that's why things are so tied up right now and prices will have to go down somewhat. But the projects that now can't be sold was planned while things went well and build while building costs were high. Maybe the right, well-thought-through projects now can be build while costs are lower and finish when times are starting to look brughter? Everybody shouldn-t just panick and lose faith alltogether. The state and some responsible foundations should make some wel-thought-through projects to keep the wheals rolling, get necessary investments at a discount and keep employment rates up. Especially I think it's important that things continue to happen in Ørestad to get it away from that Plørestad reputation or things will enter an evil circle out there which will be bad for everybody.It - parts of it - has to look more "finished" and become more attractive fot things to turn again instead of it ending up an embarresing wasteland and a monument of wasted oportunity. It is worth some targeted investments - much like when the development was originally kickstarted with DR Byen. Too bad the pressent government don't want to back up neither Ørestad nor Copenhagen as a whole because it is "enermu territory". The problem isn't that too much has been build but that people were too optimistic and that they now need a bit of time to come to accept that fact.

Lars_HH

November 23rd, 2008, 09:55 AM

http://www.berlingske.dk/article/20081122/koebenhavn/711220031/ (http://www.berlingske.dk/article/20081122/koebenhavn/711220031
/)

I'm almost speechless… of course the "credit crunch" is bad for Ørestaden, but in the article they mention that 600 families with children are living in Ørestaden, they have moved in the last two years, then something must go in the right direction.

knilaus

November 23rd, 2008, 10:47 AM

Markowitch

November 23rd, 2008, 03:54 PM

http://www.berlingske.dk/article/20081122/koebenhavn/711220037/

That article in Berlingske is a bit gloomy and depressing. However, look at the two buildings in Ørestad South. They are going to be world class - at least one of them and that's going to attract attention. I would'nt mind living there myself if the price was more in tune with my wallet.

The article critisism of the "life" in Ørestaden is right though. One of the drawbacks of the the overall plan for Ørestaden is that its not really integrated with the rest of the city. Sure there is a metro, but that's obviously not enough. Perhaps the companies behind Ørestaden could join forces with the city to get some life out there - more shops and entertainment? More meeting places for the residents besides the roof tops and the park?

Fab 5

November 23rd, 2008, 04:12 PM

Lektor Jens Lunde fra Handelshøjskolen er skeptisk over for, at Ørestaden så entydigt er udbygget med etageejendomme.

Right on - and follows exactly what I have been writing earlier on.

knilaus

November 23rd, 2008, 04:31 PM

Lars_HH

November 23rd, 2008, 04:46 PM

It's all about Ørestad on berlingskes website:

An article about the multiarena project.

http://www.berlingske.dk/article/20081123/koebenhavn/81123022/

(mistænker berlingske journalisterne for forsøg på markedspleje af deres faldende andelsboliger i brokvarterne :fiddle: :nuts: )

Zichau

November 23rd, 2008, 08:25 PM

ramblersen

November 23rd, 2008, 08:52 PM

They do it again. What's their agenda? 49% are not gonna use it? That's just plain stupid. They also could have said 51% are probably gonna use it. That would also have been stupid, so they simply must be looking for a way to stop it from getting build.

What did they expect? How many percent uses the new Royal Playhouse? How many pervent visit The National Museum of Art? Hpw many percent goeto church regularly? Or would use a new mosque? Use Copenhagen Zoo? The only thing everybody uses all the time is supermarkets. But some of us would like our city to have more options than to go to Føtec or read Berlingske. How many percent of the popilation reads Berlingske anyway? Probably less than 51 % så close the damn thing!:nuts:

cphdude

November 23rd, 2008, 10:29 PM

Berlingske is sadly bocoming a joke and a shadow of its former glory. I seriously blame the new editor.

Anyways, the servey is stupid, since anyone knows there are certain thing you cant really ask people. And among the biggest, is asking if people will use or do something, when that situation or choise is purely hypothetical. People have never had an arena like that, so they of couse dont really know if it is something they might use. Even if the arena can be used to almost everything. And with that in mind, the number will of couse be low...

Markowitch

November 23rd, 2008, 11:02 PM

cphdude

November 24th, 2008, 02:09 PM

^^ Can only agree with you that Berlingske is too negative. :ohno:
Fortunately not all newspapers look at Ørestad in this way. Sydsvenskan was recently visiting Bjerget with a camera crew. Watch the move here:

http://sydsvenskan.se/webbtv/webbtv_varlden/article391256/Folj-med-till-varldens-basta-bostadshus.html?context=webbtv

It has been quite entertaining watching the doomsday people the last few days, talking about the horror of the real estate market in general, and more specificly Ørestaden. One guy in the news actually spoke about a long drought of 20 year....20 YEARS? :ohno: The stupid thing is, that it is almost the same people who - only a few years ago- spoke about a golden age and a new economic era only where the prices just kept going up and if the economists felt something was wrong, they clearly needed to read up on financial thing or perhaps reinvent the system. At one point, a certain Prime Minister from a small country with 5.5 mill people up north, sugested that the financial experts should rewrite the books, since they were so obviously wrong, in prediction a downturn in the economy and calling for reforms...

One guy that did make sence to, was a professer who got to speak for a very long time (sometimes tv2news is actually usefull) on Ørestaden, on sunday morning. He actually felt it was a good idea that ørestaden got to take a break now, since everything had started to look the same out there, and since things were moving to fast. He also sugested that the break would make developers aweare of the problem with the "ghost town" aspect and alow for smal shops and cafes in the future, though he said that it would never be like in the "bro areas" since the rent was already so high, that mainly big chain stores would be able to afford it.

Fab 5

November 24th, 2008, 02:17 PM

^^a "GAY"?:lol:

cphdude

November 24th, 2008, 02:55 PM

^^a "GAY"?:lol:

Oh boy...Sorry about that. :hammer::baaa:

Let's just hope that wasnt a freudian slip...

Lars_HH

November 24th, 2008, 03:51 PM

It has been quite entertaining watching the doomsday people the last few days, talking about the horror of the real estate market in general, and more specificly Ørestaden. One guy in the news actually spoke about a long drought of 20 year....20 YEARS? :ohno: The stupid thing is, that it is almost the same people who - only a few years ago- spoke about a golden age and a new economic era only where the prices just kept going up and if the economists felt something was wrong, they clearly needed to read up on financial thing or perhaps reinvent the system. At one point, a certain Prime Minister from a small country with 5.5 mill people up north, sugested that the financial experts should rewrite the books, since they were so obviously wrong, in prediction a downturn in the economy and calling for reforms...

One guy that did make sence to, was a professer who got to speak for a very long time (sometimes tv2news is actually usefull) on Ørestaden, on sunday morning. He actually felt it was a good idea that ørestaden got to take a break now, since everything had started to look the same out there, and since things were moving to fast. He also sugested that the break would make developers aweare of the problem with the "ghost town" aspect and alow for smal shops and cafes in the future, though he said that it would never be like in the "bro areas" since the rent was already so high, that mainly big chain stores would be able to afford it.

Yep.. it was Jens Kvorning he did a good job that morning on tv2news. You could see the disappointment in the eyes of the journalist.

moveteam

November 24th, 2008, 09:17 PM

What about the pictures of the projectors in the Concert Hall? I am eager to see them ;)

ØlandDK

November 24th, 2008, 09:26 PM

What about the pictures of the projectors in the Concert Hall? I am eager to see them ;)

Found those two crappy mobilephone shots:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3290/3039248214_5e1e97ae0f_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3248/3038412427_cb4847b555_b.jpg
both by Ernst Poulsen from flickr.com

TMG

November 25th, 2008, 08:47 AM

Jep, crappy they are, but you can still see how great its gonna be.

moveteam

November 25th, 2008, 08:50 AM

Thank you Øland, it's going to be amazing :)

ramblersen

November 25th, 2008, 11:15 AM

Sorry for going a bit off topic but BIG Bjerget like you haven't had it before:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoU6ee5jz4A&eurl=http://www.dac.dk/visNyhed.asp?artikelID=5056

moveteam

November 25th, 2008, 11:19 AM

Your post is empty, but found it in the source:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoU6ee5jz4A&eurl=http://www.dac.dk/visNyhed.asp?artikelID=5056

And widescreen videos in YouTube, nice :D

Jarmo K

November 25th, 2008, 12:07 PM

^ very nice (:

but i wonder who or what those PHILOSOPHS are :D

ØlandDK

November 25th, 2008, 01:03 PM

Nice video! :yes:

moveteam

November 25th, 2008, 01:44 PM

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3036/3038329973_15c596f223.jpg
Also by a crappy E61i.

Lars_HH

November 25th, 2008, 06:08 PM

Hi, today at 16.54 I was the first customer ever in the new "tasty bagels and ice" shop in Ørestad C. They did a very good job with a bagel and fresh pressed juice for only 35 kr.

I heard people in the shop talking about a sushi restaurant would open in primo 2009 (1. Februar/March) in the empty shop on the corner of porthuset facing towards VM - husene

cphdude

November 25th, 2008, 08:02 PM

Lars_HH

November 25th, 2008, 08:39 PM

hehe... It opened at 17.00 :cheers: (<-- orangejuice)

acebone

November 27th, 2008, 09:02 PM

I heard people in the shop talking about a sushi restaurant would open in primo 2009 (1. Februar/March) in the empty shop on the corner of porthuset facing towards VM - husene

Yep, that was me. I know from Walls that they have negotiated with a guy who wants to open a sushi restaurant in that shop. The negotiations with him and not least the municipality has been going on for almost six months but now I have been assured that both parties have signed and the municipality has accepted the interior design. I think we can expect a press release on this from By&Havn very soon.

It has been quite tough not to talk about it but now it is a fact that it will open.:banana:

Nagel

November 30th, 2008, 01:01 AM

Kens Kramer Mikkelsen replying to Berlingske's vulgar tabloid coverage of Ørestaden:

http://www.berlingske.dk/article/20081129/kommentarer/711290086/

Oh, and by the way Berlingske is a tabloid these days.

TMG

November 30th, 2008, 11:45 AM

safta20

November 30th, 2008, 07:22 PM

Hi friends. What is the status of the concert house and the very chic Big House.

NFLineast

December 1st, 2008, 08:28 AM

Peter Olesen spews in Berlingske:

http://peterolesen.blogs.berlingske.dk/2008/11/30/ørestaden-i-sta/

Finanskrisen er slem for nogen. Men i visse sammenhænge er den nu ikke kun af det onde for andre For den kan også visse steder nå at give en tænkepause og i bedste fald nå at få de mest byggeivrige og ikke altid lige moralsk ordentlige bygherrer sorteret fra eller i hvert fald midlertidigt pacificeret.

F.eks. er Ørestaden på Amager som andre nybyggerdele af København og rundt i landet som helhed ramt af finanskrisen. Der er stagnation, meget byggeri er gået i stå, aflyst eller sat på stand by, har Berlingske-læserne kunnet læse for ganske nylig. Usolgte grunde, tomme lejligheder, der hverken kan sælges eller lejes ud. Og jeg er lige ved at sige: Det tror da pokker! For med de priser og med det miljø, som netop Ørestaden foreløbig har præsteret, så kunne selv ikke 10 vilde hest lokke mig til at bo derude. Nyt og gråt og trist og alt for meget af samme skuffe, mange firkantede blokke, meget glas og stort set ingen butikker og cafeer. Her er ikke meget miljø. Nok en enkelt døgn-Netto, en ejendomsmægler og en advokat. Men livet? Lysten til at bevæge sig ned på gaderne, mellem husene, hvordan mobiliserer man den? Ørestaden kan faktisk have rigtig godt af en tiltrængt timeout. Også selv om adm. dir Jens Kramer Mikkelsen i dag søndag 30.11.08 i Berlingske naturligt tager til genmæle og forsøger at berolige. Det skal han jo, hans svar er forudsigeligt.

Alene at komme ud til Ørestaden ad den lange, snorlige, helt kønsløse og meget uinspirerende Ørestads Boulevard er da direkte til at miste humøret af. Ikke så meget som en snoning eller en bugtning har man kunnet unde denne hovedstadens nye, store boulevard til den nye store ”vidunderbydel”. Eller så meget som en flok træer til at danne allé til boulevarden. Det har man dog kunnet, begge dele, sno vejen og beplante som allé ved sidevejen Arne Jacobsens Allé.

Bevar os, en helt ny by skal have nogle år, før den reelt kan bedømmes. Den skal tages i brug, der skal liv til, der skal skabes miljø. Men som det er nu, hvor det meste stort set også er gået i stå, så tegner det ikke lyst. For meget af samme skuffe og af samme surdej. For lavt et ambitionsniveau. Der har nok været ambitioner, men de har ikke været høje nok. Og de forkerte har skullet tjene for mange penge på projektet. Og ejere og lejere skal betale gildet, hvis ellers de kan eller vil. Et af lokkemidlerne har været metroen. Men den gør det altså ikke alene.

Lyspunkterne er set med mine øjne få. Der er ”Bjerget”, tegnet af Bjarke Ingels, som med god grund for nylig fik en fin arkitekturpris for netop det inspirerende, terrasserede byggeri med store terrasser til hver bolig. Der er helt inde ved byen Tietgenkollegiet, og der er ude i staden det kulørte Ørestads Gymnasium og et par bygninger til, men ellers er der ikke meget at falde i svime over. I hvert fald ikke Fields eller mange af de andre betonkasser. Og de mange boliger med så meget glas, at man indendørs altid vil sidde udstillet til almindelig offentlig beskuelse. Aldrig i livet for mit vedkommende. Jeg har tit efterlyst større vinduer visse steder i byen. Men som bekendt: ”For lidt og for meget fordærver alting” og ”Med måde er alting godt”. Det gælder ikke kun vinduers størrelse, men også hele ideen bag Ørestaden: For meget af samme skuffe. Resultatet bliver let charmeforladt. Også selv om man er placeret midt i et skøn naturområde, tæt på vand og by, men med en hovedvej ind til byen, som er lige til at miste humøret af.

Og så har man endda tilladt sig at opkalde vejene efter nogle af vore største arkitekter fra forrige århundrede: Arne Jacobsen, C. F. Møller og Kay Fisker. Det er ikke lige den optimale måde at hædre dem på. Jeg gætter, de, hvis de kunne, ville vende sig i deres grave i beskæmmelse over at lægge navne til denne nye, triste bydel.

moveteam

December 1st, 2008, 08:39 AM

Holy shit! I agree with him that RIGHT NOW the city is quite boring with a few masterpieces. But as Kramer said the city needs time, in time people will move in, people are going to make the urban life and the urban life is making Ørestad less grey.

NFLineast

December 1st, 2008, 01:46 PM

Well, all I can say is that if I'm to believe everything I read about this place then there's something wrong with me because I like living here.

nicolajb

December 1st, 2008, 02:39 PM

Well, all I can say is that if I'm to believe everything I read about this place then there's something wrong with me because I like living here.

Me too! :)

I have been living in Ørestad City for 3 years now and though I must admit that construction sites have been dominating the area for most of the time I do feel that it is a great place to live.
For my part I feel that it is great to be close to both the city and the nature.... and soon a (hopefully) great golf course ;)

/Nicolaj

moveteam

December 1st, 2008, 03:09 PM

Me too! :)

I have been living in Ørestad City for 3 years now and though I must admit that construction sites have been dominating the area for most of the time I do feel that it is a great place to live.
For my part I feel that it is great to be close to both the city and the nature.... and soon a (hopefully) great golf course ;)

/Nicolaj
And you're the best to say EOD :)

Kipple

December 1st, 2008, 09:19 PM

The two projector-boxes:
http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2020%2011%2008/DSC02312.jpg

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2020%2011%2008/DSC02313.jpg

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2028%2011%2008/DSC02330.jpg

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2028%2011%2008/DSC02329.jpg

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2028%2011%2008/DSC02331.jpg

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2028%2011%2008/DSC02355.jpg

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2028%2011%2008/DSC02351.jpg

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2028%2011%2008/DSC02344.jpg

Kipple

December 1st, 2008, 09:20 PM

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2022%2011%2008/DSC02314.jpg

Kipple

December 1st, 2008, 09:21 PM

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2028%2011%2008/DSC02315.jpg

I will enter the actual garage soon for more pictures..... (its got some pretty crazy colours) :)

Kipple

December 1st, 2008, 09:23 PM

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2028%2011%2008/DSC02319.jpg

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2028%2011%2008/DSC02360.jpg

Kipple

December 1st, 2008, 09:25 PM

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2028%2011%2008/DSC02316.jpg

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2028%2011%2008/DSC02359.jpg

Kipple

December 1st, 2008, 09:27 PM

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2028%2011%2008/DSC02320.jpg

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2028%2011%2008/DSC02361.jpg

Kipple

December 1st, 2008, 09:30 PM

Serving the first photos of one of the last buildings in Ørestad Nord:
(and its pretty big)
http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2028%2011%2008/DSC02340.jpg

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2028%2011%2008/DSC02341.jpg

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2028%2011%2008/DSC02343.jpg

Kipple

December 1st, 2008, 09:31 PM

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2028%2011%2008/DSC02345.jpg

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2028%2011%2008/DSC02346.jpg

Kipple

December 1st, 2008, 09:34 PM

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2028%2011%2008/DSC02364.jpg

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2028%2011%2008/DSC02367.jpg

Kipple

December 1st, 2008, 09:35 PM

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2028%2011%2008/DSC02333.jpg

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2028%2011%2008/DSC02335.jpg

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2028%2011%2008/DSC02338.jpg

Kipple

December 1st, 2008, 09:37 PM

My balcony-view is sadly going away soon.... :(

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2029%2011%2008/DSC02368.jpg

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2029%2011%2008/DSC02370.jpg

Kipple

December 1st, 2008, 10:00 PM

Hi friends. What is the status of the concert house and the very chic Big House.
Both are really on the move at the moment.
The concert hall has to be finished for its grand opening at the 17th of january 2009.
You can see pictures of the progression of BIG-house on pages 86-87 on this thread. :)

TMG

December 2nd, 2008, 08:40 AM

Thanks for all the pictures Lars. I passed Ørestad this weekend and there are huge activity. If the project at Ørestad Business Center also goes U/C, than we will have activity out there for many coming years no matter what Berlingske claims.

FREKI

December 2nd, 2008, 08:57 AM

Thanks for all the pictures Lars. I passed Ørestad this weekend and there are huge activity.

I've made the decision to stay clear of the place until next spring so it'll be all the more overwhelming when I visit.. lots of cool looking stuff :happy:

( but I will be keeping an eye on the thread so keep those great pics comming :) )

Pisling

December 2nd, 2008, 09:01 AM

I've made the decision to stay clear of the place until next spring so it'll be all the more overwhelming when I visit.. lots of cool looking stuff :happy:
I've thought of that too, but I don't think my curiosity will allow me to do so ;-)

TMG

December 2nd, 2008, 12:11 PM

Well it is a good thought, and you will be overwhelmed. I tried it to a certain degree, when I visited Tuborg Havn last time. The construction of offices are moving fast out there.

moveteam

December 2nd, 2008, 07:17 PM

Thanks for the pictures, Lars :)

But these projector boxes are really really ugly?

Fab 5

December 2nd, 2008, 08:26 PM

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2028%2011%2008/DSC02355.jpg

That's the best shot I have seen of the meteor effect so far!!! Fantastic.

Lars_HH

December 3rd, 2008, 09:08 PM

Sakset fra jp.

"Akademisk Arkitektforening og Danske Ark har nomineret fem danske arkitektfirmaer til den prestigefyldte og eftertragtede europæiske arkitekturpris, Mies van der Rohe-prisen, for 2007 og 2008.

De nominerede er 3XN A/S for Ørestad Gymnasium, Arkitema Architects for Nørre Vodsborg, BIG Bjarke Ingels Group for Bolig Bjerget, KHR arkitekter for Hellig Kors Kirke og Lundgaard & Tranberg Arkitekter A/S for Det Nye Skuespilhus. Prisen bliver uddelt i foråret 2009."

ch1le

December 3rd, 2008, 09:21 PM

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2028%2011%2008/DSC02333.jpg

Absolutely uhwsum.

excuse my ignorance, but who was the architect?

ØlandDK

December 3rd, 2008, 09:42 PM

^^
Henning Larsen...

ch1le

December 3rd, 2008, 10:12 PM

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2028%2011%2008/DSC02333.jpg

Absolutely uhwsum.

ØlandDK

December 3rd, 2008, 10:16 PM

^^
You already said that :lol:

IceCheese

December 3rd, 2008, 10:17 PM

^^Schizofrenia?:ohno:

ch1le

December 3rd, 2008, 10:36 PM

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2028%2011%2008/DSC02333.jpg

Absolutely uhwsum.

staff

December 4th, 2008, 02:51 AM

:shifty:

cphdude

December 4th, 2008, 08:43 AM

Legend.. - wait for it....

staff

December 4th, 2008, 11:06 PM

...DARY

knilaus

December 5th, 2008, 03:55 PM

knilaus

December 5th, 2008, 04:02 PM

mlm

December 5th, 2008, 04:17 PM

/\ Thanks for the update. Was it you that bought an apartment in Stævnen? It seems the construction has been going on forever...

DenverDane

December 5th, 2008, 06:08 PM

I guess the pictures in and by themselves are not that terribly exciting as they seem to mostly portray a big hole in the ground but perhaps they can inform observers as to the sheer scale of the project in question..

Still quite interesting. I for one will be following the progress! Thanks for sharing! You are also welcome to post these photos in the dedicated thread for the hotel.

Lars_HH

December 5th, 2008, 08:50 PM

Thanks Knilaus... it's almost impossible getting a shot on the Bella Hotel ground, it's like Fort Knox there!

safta20

December 6th, 2008, 10:05 AM

Hi guys. I would like to make a blogg at Yimby.se about Jean Nouvels fantastic concert house. Does anyone of you have any private photo of the building that you can allow me to show on the blogg?

Lars_HH

December 6th, 2008, 10:15 PM

As promised I will make an update every first weekend of the month.

Today we (Kipple and I) had our focus on CABINN, FIELDS 2 (parking lot), CPH. Towers, Rambøll HQ, KPC and Bella Hotel.

Things are moving fast especially CABINN - despite the crisis.

Hope you'll enjoy, today there is a little christmas quiz, see if you can find Kipple on one of the pictures.

Golfpark 3 + 4

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/TS007-1.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/TS008-1.jpg

CABINN - they are constructing more than one floor a week.

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/TS009-1.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/TS010-1.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/TS011.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/TS012-1.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/TS015-1.jpg

FIELDS 2 - parking lot

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/TS016-1.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/TS018-1.jpg

Note! Different colors on each floor!

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/TS019-1.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/TS020-1.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/TS021-1.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/TS022-1.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/TS023.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/TS024.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/TS026-1.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/TS027-1.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/TS029-1.jpg

Copenhagen Towers

They have ended the pilling for the Norman Forster Tower. But they are working full scale on Crown Plaza, The Conference Room and the "South Wing"

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/TS030-1.jpg

Pilling finished for Norman Forster.

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/TS031-1.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/TS032-1.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/TS033-1.jpg

The conference room i guess.

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/TS034.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/TS035-1.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/TS036-1.jpg

South Wing

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/TS037.jpg

Parking lot for Crowne Plaza

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/TS039-1.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/TS041-1.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/TS042-1.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/TS043.jpg

Rambøll HQ - also coming fast, try to compare with last month.

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/TS044.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/TS045.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/TS046.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/TS047.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/TS048.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/TS049.jpg

NEROPORT extension to ferring.

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/TS052.jpg

Neroport/Ferring seen from Ørestad Gymnasium.

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/TS054.jpg

Our new Bagel bar

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/TS055.jpg

Coming sushi restaurant.

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/TS056.jpg

VM - bjerget

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/TS057-1.jpg

KPC

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/TS058-1.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/TS059-1.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/TS061-1.jpg

Bella Hotel - the impossible place to take good pictures.

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/TS062-1.jpg

Note the have their own medicale room, it's a huge building spot, the biggest in Ørestad C.

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/TS063-1.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/TS064.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/TS068.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/TS069.jpg

After this trip the article (Plørestaden) in Berlingske really sickens me again, there is a lot of activity the same as in 2005 - 2007.

We counted at least 9 projects (Golfpark, CABINN, CPH. T., Bella Hotel, Winghouse, RGC, Neroport, KPC, Rambøll HQ and a Public School under way)
under construction in Ørestad C alone, 3 of them the biggest in Denmark right now. What a stupid journalist - it's obvious he never left Berlingske Officin or did any serious research.

mlm

December 6th, 2008, 10:55 PM

Great update, thaks a lot. :)

Crowne Plaza really does look very tall despite it's "only" 85 meters.

And that CABINN, with just insulation and no real cladding yet, it looks like something taken straight out of Bellahøj. :D

moveteam

December 7th, 2008, 08:51 AM

Berlingske - Ørestad-crisis? Shut up thanks for AWESOME pictures Lars, there is a lot going on!!

Markowitch

December 7th, 2008, 04:12 PM

After this trip the article (Plørestaden) in Berlingske really sickens me again, there is a lot of activity the same as in 2005 - 2007... What a stupid journalist - it's obvious he never left Berlingske Officin or did any serious research.

I Agree with you. It was incensitive and uncalled for that Berlingske used such derogatory expressions about the current and future state of Ørestaden. However, some of the points made sense, like the lack of shops, when not considering fields. We need to ask why there are so few shops? Is it because of Fields or is it because of beaucracy?

One story springs to mind about Kødbyen, where many wants to open a shop, but where official approval has slowed down shop openings to an almost stand still. Another thing we can ask about is why the school in Ørestaden hasn't been finished yet? There must be a huge demand for a school in the area with so many people living close by. Is Ørestaden suffering from bad official planing? Shops are not present due to beaucracy and schools are build according to public budget restrictions (imposed by the government!!) and not when needed?

FREKI

December 7th, 2008, 06:48 PM

Great pics - thanks for sharing! :happy:

staff

December 7th, 2008, 08:08 PM

What a great and thorough update. Many thanks!

cphdude

December 7th, 2008, 11:56 PM

Thank you very much for this....

TORONTOCOPENHAGEN

December 8th, 2008, 12:12 AM

Best update in a long time if not ever.

Crowne Plaza sure is a tall beauty!

knilaus

December 8th, 2008, 12:57 AM

TMG

December 8th, 2008, 09:39 AM

Great work Lars and Kipple - thank you very much.

cphdude

December 8th, 2008, 01:45 PM

And just in case you really warent sure that Berlingske has gone insane. Todays voxpop vote; Are you going to miss Nick and Jay....?

Seriously, what the fuck has happend to that paper?

Urbanus

December 8th, 2008, 02:11 PM

And just in case you really warent sure that Berlingske has gone insane. Todays voxpop vote; Are you going to miss Nick and Jay....?

Seriously, what the fuck has happend to that paper?

Well, obviously something happens when you go from broadsheet to tabloid...

cphdude

December 8th, 2008, 02:26 PM

Well, obviously something happens when you go from broadsheet to tabloid...

And hire a commie to run it all...

Lars_HH

December 8th, 2008, 07:48 PM

An addendum to planning document 277 (http://www.kk.dk/eDoc/Teknik-%20og%20Milj%c3%b8udvalget/26-11-2008%2015.00.00/Dagsorden/21-11-2008%2015.20.55/4165324.PDF) "Ørestad Service Center" has just been sent into a public hearing by the city council's urban planning committee.

The addendum covers the area just south of the SEB / Rambøll project and the metro's technical installations. According to the addendum the plan is to squeeze in the circular parking house (http://www.christensenco.dk/projekter.php?id=27) designed by Christensen & Co along with a new office building for which a final design has not been submitted. The interesting part about the office building is that the addendum specifies the following requirements for usage of the ground floor:

I don't know how they plan to re-organise the ownership structure for the land on which the future office building is to be developed but at the moment the land seems to be owned by By&Havn and Telia.

Wonder when they start building the parking lot on Hannemans Alle. We desperately miss one on Edvard Thomsens Vej.

Markowitch

December 9th, 2008, 12:31 AM

Wonder when they start building the parking lot on Hannemans Alle. We desperately miss one on Edvard Thomsens Vej.

Desperately?? I don't get it. Has the planners of Ørestaden missed something obvious? Or did they presume that most people would choose not to have a car? Or is it like the situation with the public school, just something that was not constructed when needed?

Btw. what's with the sculpture at the corner of Vejlands Allé and Ørestads Boulevard? Boulevard is a rather bold name for a small road with only one trafic lane in each direction. :lol:

The sculpture is a column of rocks with water running downs its sides. It looks ok, but why is it placed at such a deserted area and not in the central park? I have never seen any one admiring it or standing next to it. It's freking lonesome :lol:. The same goes for the huge sculpture in Ørestad syd. It's been there for years at a place no one visits. What's going on with this placement of art at almost random places. It makes no sense...

Kipple

December 9th, 2008, 11:27 PM

To complement the other Lars´ post, i have chosen to show a small flashback of some of the construction sites.

So i am now going to take you all about one year back in time......

Kipple

December 9th, 2008, 11:30 PM

23/12-07
http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2023%2012%2007/DSC00107.jpg

8/11-08
http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2008%2011%2008/DSC02263.jpg

Kipple

December 9th, 2008, 11:32 PM

23/12-07
http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2023%2012%2007/DSC00110.jpg

8/11-08
http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2008%2011%2008/DSC02267.jpg

Kipple

December 9th, 2008, 11:35 PM

23/12-07
http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2023%2012%2007/DSC00119.jpg

08/11-08
http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2008%2011%2008/DSC02256.jpg

Kipple

December 9th, 2008, 11:41 PM

21/12-07
http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2021%2012%2007/DSC00077.jpg

6/12-08
http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%206%2012%2008/DSC02373.jpg

Kipple

December 9th, 2008, 11:43 PM

21/12-07
http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2021%2012%2007/DSC00089.jpg

28/11-08
http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2028%2011%2008/DSC02315.jpg

Kipple

December 9th, 2008, 11:44 PM

21/12-07
http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2021%2012%2007/DSC00086.jpg

28/11-08
http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2028%2011%2008/DSC02320.jpg

Kipple

December 9th, 2008, 11:46 PM

21/12-07
http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2021%2012%2007/DSC00083.jpg

6/12-08
http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%206%2012%2008/DSC02402.jpg

Kipple

December 9th, 2008, 11:57 PM

Stævnen & BIG-House
http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%206%2012%2008/DSC02423.jpg

Winghouse
http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%206%2012%2008/DSC02428.jpg
http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%206%2012%2008/DSC02432.jpg
http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%206%2012%2008/DSC02433.jpg

VM-husene got some new trees
http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%206%2012%2008/DSC02439.jpg

TIP-TOP trafik in Porthuset
http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%206%2012%2008/DSC02435.jpg

Døgn Netto in Parkhusene:
http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%206%2012%2008/DSC02431.jpg

X-Mas greetings from Lars & Lars :hi:
http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%206%2012%2008/DSC02437.jpg
(you can also see some occupied office-space in Porthuset on the photo)

ØlandDK

December 10th, 2008, 12:22 AM

Really nice update again 2xLars...like the comparions you did! :)

Kipple

December 10th, 2008, 12:33 AM

Hope you'll enjoy, today there is a little christmas quiz, see if you can find Kipple on one of the pictures.
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj198/Lars_HH/TS022-1.jpg

Oh, there i am....;)

TMG

December 10th, 2008, 11:07 AM

Great pictures with a high historic value.

In all modesty that was one of the main reasons for me to develop kifora.dk, so I could show the development and progress. In 20-30 years time pictures like yours can be very valuable. Just think about the development in the harbourareas of Copenhagen. For 20 years ago there were factories, ships and old barracks located in the center of the city - now they are gone. Thanks to guys like us we can document it for the past.

Markowitch

December 10th, 2008, 12:46 PM

Btw. what's with the sculpture at the corner of Vejlands Allé and Ørestads Boulevard? .... why is it placed at such a deserted area and not in the central park? I have never seen any one admiring it or standing next to it. It's freking lonesome :lol:.

Ok, I found a page that describe the sculptures in Ørestaden. http://www.orestad.dk/index/privat/aktiviter/kunst.htm

The following is placed at the border of Ørestaden Syd, where "city" meets nature. The position of this great sculpture makes it almost a public secret, not viewed by many. However, the new residensts in Ørestaden Syd will propably like it.
http://www.orestad.dk/hein_135.jpg

The next sculpture was the one i talked about in the previous post. Its basically a column with water running down it. It's placed on a small island, but it lacks the pavilions that are shown on the following picture. The link provided above states:

The Pavillon will be a place to relax and hold picnics while enjoying the sun.

Well, since its placed on the trafic junktion between Ørestaden Boulevard and Vejlands Allé it will be so so with the relaxing in the midst of the car fumes.
http://www.orestad.dk/kaerlighedsoen_288.jpg

The last sculpure is a bit surpricing, It has been placed in the middle of a construction site and looked almost as a demo of some part of a building. But no, its an artwork and a sculpture. I have not seen anyone pausing to enjoy it. Almost no people besides busy bikes and cars pass by it. What a confusing site to place a sculpture. The metro station is close by, but it has not been used that much, due to the low population density around it. Maybe it will change when the concerthall opens.

http://www.orestad.dk/kirkeby_288.jpg

I got to say that Ørestaden is one strange place... But the overall theme is to place sculptures at each Ørestad metro station as a welcome to visitiors. A good idea I think, but a little silly considering the few spectators and the lack of benches. Perhaps a sculpture park as the one in Landskroner would have been a better idea?

Markowitch

December 10th, 2008, 05:58 PM

^^ It could be a great thing if Ørestaden got it's own sculpture park like the skulpturparken in landskrona (http://www.sydsverige.dk/?pageID=132). Escpecially if a museum for modern art was build there too. I just realized that Ørestaden must be the perfect spot for such a thing, since it is the most modern and futuristic part of Copenhagen. Such a park and museum would make the whole Ørestaden an exhibition in its own right. And it would also be sooo much more accesible to copenhageners compared to Arken and Louisiana. And also a great addition to the DR's concert hall.

acebone

December 11th, 2008, 08:54 AM

And now it is official - news about the sushi restaurant in Danish:

http://http://www.orestad.dk/aus/index/privat/index/privat/sm_nyhedsbrev_visning.htm?newsId=15570 (http://www.orestad.dk/aus/index/privat/index/privat/sm_nyhedsbrev_visning.htm?newsId=15570)

Lars_HH

December 11th, 2008, 09:32 AM

Acebone: Very good news indeed!

Markowitch: you're right about the sculptures, strange things happens sometimes in the planning done by By & Havn.

moveteam

December 11th, 2008, 10:20 AM

"Der er masser af butikker i Ørestad City, men de fleste ligger i shoppingcenteret field’s. Udenfor fields ligger der, udover bagelshoppen og den kommende sushirestaurant, også en døgnNetto på Ørestad Boulevard. Derudover er der planer om en Irma i Kobberhuset, der forventes opført på Arne Jacobsens Alle, samt en endnu unavngiven cafe. Også i Ørestad Nord forventer man i løbet af en overskuelig fremtid at få en cafe/restaurant, da netværkshuset Mikadohouse opererer med plads til syv butikker i underetagen, samt en cafe og restaurant, der skal fungere som restaurant for virksomhederne i huset og de omkringliggende uddannelses institutioner og virksomheder."

A new city is indeed rising! Just imagine Ørestad in 10-20 years.

Lars_HH

December 11th, 2008, 10:56 AM

”Jeg har længe ledt efter det helt rigtige sted at starte min restaurant. Og Ørestad har med sine snart tre internationale hoteller, 5000 beboere og 10.000 daglige besøgende den helt rigtige beliggenhed. Jeg elskede det her sted fra første gang jeg så det”, siger Choy Yue Chunty, der lover sushi og traditionel japansk mad i verdensklasse.

Restauranten åbner omkring den 1. februar og vil have åbnet hver dag fra kl. 12-23.

:banana:

NFLineast

December 11th, 2008, 12:41 PM

I'm so there! Can't wait.

Lars_HH

December 11th, 2008, 12:48 PM

From erhvervsbladet.dk

Domicilbyggeri: SEB satser en milliard på nyt Rambøll-hovedsæde
Et af de senere års største danske domicilbyggerier skyder p.t. op fra jorden i Ørestad . Her opfører SEB Pension en 46.000 etagemeter stor kontorbygning, der primært skal agere hovedsæde for rådgiverfirmaet Rambøll.

Som arkitekter på byggeriet har Dissing + Weitling skabt et kontorhus, der er bygget op omkring en stor, indre gågade, som er inspireret af den berømte Rambla i Barcelona, som efter sigende er verdens mest aktive handelsgade - med liv alle døgnets 24 timer.

»Udfordringen har været at skabe en bygning, der kan medvirke til at give Rambøll en ny, fælles identitet. Her har vi så skabt en indre 3D- rambla, der i ét greb binder bygningen sammen vertikalt såvel som horisontalt. Det bliver et stort rum, hvor utroligt mange mennesker vil færdes,« forklarer arkitekt maa, partner Stig Mikkelsen fra Dissing + Weitling.

I fuld højde

Som en videreudvikling af inspirationskilden foldes domicilets rambla ud i bygningens fulde højde. Via indskudte dæk og balkoner samt en central trappe fra stueplan til femte sal forbindes huset i et tredimensionelt, otte etagers bevægelsesrum.

Udnyttelse af dagslys er i fokus. De egentlige kontorarealer er trukket helt ud mod facaden, så arbejdspladserne er delvis afskærmet fra fællesområderne og får udsigt til omgivelserne. På den måde vil medarbejdernes arbejdsdag være præget af en vekselvirkning mellem stilleområder og fællesområder.

»Det bliver et rart og inspirerende hus at være i. Med offentlig adgang til ramblaen og skiftende udstillinger i showroomet samt cafeen med udeservering om sommeren, vil huset bidrage aktivt til det kommende byrum i Ørestad Syd,« siger Stig Mikkelsen.

Det nye kontorhus bliver genbo til en anden markant kontorbygning, der netop nu er under opførelse i Ørestad Syd, nemlig det første højhus i Copenhagen Towers-projektet, der i øvrigt også er tegnet af Dissing + Weitling med Sjælsø Gruppen som bygherre.

Største vejkryds

Netop bydelens fremtid som regionalt vækstområde har gjort det interessant for SEB Pension at optræde som bygherre og investor på det nye Rambøll-hovedsæde.

Byggeriet ligger lige midt i »Nordens største vejkryds« - tæt på metro, regionaltog, motorvej og lufthavn. Dermed er det let at komme til og fra arbejdspladsen fra hele Øresundsregionen.

»Det bliver et meget smukt domicil, hvor vi også har plads til en anden lejer med egen identitet ved siden af Rambøll. Det bliver et meget fleksibelt hus, og kombineret med den fantastiske beliggenhed bliver det en god, langsigtet investering for vores 300.000 pensionskunder,« siger ejendomsdirektør Peter Mering fra SEB Pension.

ramblersen

December 11th, 2008, 01:11 PM

Det nye kontorhus bliver genbo til en anden markant kontorbygning, der netop nu er under opførelse i Ørestad Syd, nemlig det første højhus i Copenhagen Towers-projektet, der i øvrigt også er tegnet af Dissing + Weitling med Sjælsø Gruppen som bygherre.

Try again...

And I'm sooo tired of that rambla nonsense! Not to say it won't be an excellent building but that analogy is so misplaced and trite!:nuts:

EDK_DK

December 11th, 2008, 01:15 PM

Well, since its placed on the trafic junktion between Ørestaden Boulevard and Vejlands Allé it will be so so with the relaxing in the midst of the car fumes.

Don't forget that the master plan for Ørestad also includes the forgotten "Amager Fælled area" Looks almost as big as Ø-city.
I find Ørestad amazing - Been there a couple of times and I have no doubt that this new town will become a huge succes in the "future" (5-10 years)

moveteam

December 11th, 2008, 03:54 PM

Try again...

And I'm sooo tired of that rambla nonsense! Not to say it won't be an excellent building but that analogy is so misplaced and trite!:nuts:
Hehe, it is only the hotel which is drawed by Dissing? And the office tower by Fosters.

EDK_DK

December 11th, 2008, 04:07 PM

Hehe, it is only the hotel which is drawed by Dissing? And the office tower by Fosters.

I believe he was talking about the new Rambøll headquater and not the cph-towers... (rambla)

ramblersen

December 11th, 2008, 04:23 PM

^^
I was talking about both. The "try again" part was about the quote that called the tower under construction an office building and not a hotel. And the rest was about Rambøll of course.

Lars_HH

December 13th, 2008, 05:14 PM

http://www.berlingske.dk/article/20081212/danmark/81212073/

moveteam

December 14th, 2008, 08:28 PM

Lars_HH

December 15th, 2008, 08:48 AM

Hey Moveteam, great job, but I think you have to switch ØBC with Bella Hotel to get the buildings on the right spot.

But the way, I wonder if it's possible to see Rambøll and CABINN from the airport as a part of the skyline..

moveteam

December 15th, 2008, 09:40 AM

ØlandDK

December 15th, 2008, 12:06 PM

Think that there's something wrong with more of the locations. But still a nice effort. :)

moveteam

December 15th, 2008, 03:27 PM

Thank you :)

I hear wispers (from NCC) that the strategy for Ørestad Downtown is going to be released medio 1Q'09.

Lars_HH

December 16th, 2008, 09:57 AM

FREKI

December 16th, 2008, 10:22 AM

Had any of you the same experience with the Earthquake? It felt like the building was lifted up – on top of a vibrator - and then lifted down again.Yikes, all I noted was some noise from my bedroom for about 8 seconds, when I got in there to see what it was it was over and I never felt any shaking myself..

Just for fun I've placed a large glass of coke next to me, in theory it should show any after quakes :)

moveteam

December 16th, 2008, 10:24 AM

Holy shit.. My apartment in Ørestaden was shaking at 6.20. Had any of you the same experience with the Earthquake? It felt like the building was lifted up – on top of a vibrator - and then lifted down again.

The epicenter was 55 km. east of Ørestad, but all the buildings are still standing. Must be a rather odd experience sitting on top of one of the cranes when a earthquake hits you.

Moveteam: How well informed is your "deepthroat" ?
I am about to write an article of Ørestad on a tech-site (which from Jan/Feb will cover architecture/design) I'm in the researching process right know, but it's probably just a public message, no matter what, it's new information.

Nagel

December 16th, 2008, 10:27 AM

^^ I clearly felt the earthquake in Vesterbro. It was more weird than frightening to me. Yes, first up, then down.

Hope that Liebeskind's tilted towers of Ørestad Downtown are some how earthquake proof :) They look so awesome in moveteam's PS pic.

NFLineast

December 16th, 2008, 12:38 PM

I was in my bed nurturing my annual flue. Suddenly it felt like the room had been turned into jelly. My first thought was: "Earth quake". This felt exactly like the sensation that has been described by others who have been in serious earth quakes. I found the experience to be entertaining rather than frightening.

moveteam

December 16th, 2008, 01:00 PM

NFLineast

December 16th, 2008, 01:02 PM

Something doesn't adds up :lol:

Did the shaking wake you?

It totally adds up. The earthquake was not serious, hence entertaining. Yes - it woke me up.

Markowitch

December 16th, 2008, 03:51 PM

I SURVIVED THE COPENHAGEN EARTHQUAKE :lol:

Fab 5

December 16th, 2008, 04:17 PM

I SURVIVED THE COPENHAGEN EARTHQUAKE :lol:

I thought it was the overweight person living in the flat above.

cphdude

December 16th, 2008, 04:55 PM

I SURVIVED THE COPENHAGEN EARTHQUAKE :lol:

I soo want that written on a t-shirt....:lol:

Maybe we should all make this our signatur for the next few days...?

Lars_HH

December 16th, 2008, 08:00 PM

I am about to write an article of Ørestad on a tech-site (which from Jan/Feb will cover architecture/design) I'm in the researching process right know, but it's probably just a public message, no matter what, it's new information.

Ok, keep this thread informed! Though I have my doubt that it's something positive - unfortunately.

u_neek

December 16th, 2008, 09:24 PM

This is just for fun!

http://peecee.dk/uploads/122008/orestad.jpg

My PS skills are not that great, but picture is from TorrontoCopenhagen, and I've added: Ørestad Downtown, Ørestad Business Center, Copenhagen Towers (+1 TBA), Bella Center hotels, Fields tower. Quite awesome I think :)

That doesn't look too bad :)

Lets hope that none of these projects will be cancelled and that even more will appear in the next few years.

knilaus

December 17th, 2008, 08:30 PM

Lars_HH

December 17th, 2008, 10:01 PM

Hmmm.. the first bankrupcy in Ørestad. Knilaus do you got any news about an extension of Ørestad Station. I couldn't find anything in the new program about infrastructure in Denmark?

knilaus

December 18th, 2008, 11:32 AM

knilaus

December 18th, 2008, 11:37 AM

NFLineast

December 20th, 2008, 07:11 PM

From berlingske.dk

Arkitekten bag DRs nye koncerthus aner ikke, at byggeriet i Ørestaden er blevet over to en halv gange så dyrt som hans oprindelige budget. Umuligt, siger Jean Nouvel i et interview med Berlingske Tidende, hvor han fralægger sig ansvaret.
Af Bjørn Willum
Sidst opdateret lørdag den 20. december 2008, 19:01

Den er blevet over to en halv gange så dyr som planlagt, har ført til bestyrelsformandens, generaldirektørens og økonomidirektørens afgang og sidst, men ikke mindst, været hovedårsagen til varige nedskæringer på 300 millioner kroner årligt – herunder 500 færre stillinger – i Danmarks Radio.

Men at prisen for DRs koncertsal ifølge statsradiofonien er eksploderet fra de anslåede 550 millioner kroner til 1,6 milliarder kroner er tilsyneladende gået hen over hovedet på husets ophavsmand, den franske arkitekt Jean Nouvel. Han har ellers med jævne mellemrum tilset byggeriet, der indvies 17. januar.

»Jeg har aldrig hørt, at prisen skulle være (næsten, red.) tredoblet. Det er jo, hvad De fortæller mig,« siger Jean Nouvel i et interview med Berlingske Tidende, det første siden det for knap to år siden blev klart at budgettet for koncertsalen ville sprænge alle rammer.

»Jeg er meget meget overrasket. Jeg tror ikke de beregninger er foretaget på et ordenligt grundlag, men måske tager jeg fejl,« siger Nouvel, der dog i løbet af den seneste uge har forsøgt at overbevise Berlingske Tidende om, at DRs beregninger ikke tager højde for inflation.

Forkert, siger DR, alle beløb er udregnet i 1999-kroner – ellers var prisstigningen blevet endnu større.

Nouvel afviser at han burde have foretaget yderligere besparelser, da kosmetiske ændringer ville have sparet »maksimalt 10 procent«:

»Under alle omstændigheder er alle beslutninger blevet truffet i fællesskab« med DR.

DR kræver erstatning

Dagen efter interviewet ringede Nouvel til Berlingske Tidende og tilføjede, at hans atelier i 2005 overlod alle økonomiske spørgsmål til DR. Ligesom han ringede til en journalist fra Sveriges Radio, der deltog i interviewet. Nouvel har nemlig budt på et projekt i Stockholm og var bekymret for at miseren i Ørestaden skulle skade konkurrencechancerne hinsidan.

Nouvel kontaktede igen Berlingske Tidende i onsdags, mens han var på besøg i København for at besigtige koncerthusbyggeriet. Men i stedet for endelig at give et bud på, hvordan hans vinderprojekt til 550 millioner blev over to en halv gang dyrere, rakte stjernearkitekten sin mobiltelefon videre til DR Byens projektdirektør Finn Gjørret. Hvorfor han ikke har nævnt prisen for Nouvel?

»Vi har primært diskuteret økonomi med hans stab. Det har været de arkitektoniske ting, han har forholdt sig til,« siger Gjørret. DR forhandler i øjeblikket om erstatning fra Nouvels tegnestue, men ønsker ikke at oplyse detaljerne.

moveteam

December 20th, 2008, 09:24 PM

Oh come on in 20 years we're just happy for the concert hall.

TVN

December 21st, 2008, 09:13 AM

I saw a new high rise building under construction in the news some days ago in Ørestaden.
What building can that be?

cphdude

December 21st, 2008, 10:45 AM

Oh come on in 20 years we're just happy for the concert hall.

I tend to agree. Besides, could it be, that they did not involve the architect enough? Since he is suprised of the price. Perhaps, they did something wrong...?

Lars_HH

December 22nd, 2008, 06:56 PM

I saw a new high rise building under construction in the news some days ago in Ørestaden.
What building can that be?

It must be the Crown Plaza in Copenhagen Towers

Kipple

December 23rd, 2008, 02:50 PM

What better way of saying Merry X-mas, than with the colour blue??? :happy:

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2023%2012%2008/DSC02490.jpg

Also notice that the curved part has started to show. 3-4 floors left on the tall part of the building. And its looking great. :banana:

Nagel

December 23rd, 2008, 03:29 PM

^^ Cool view in cool Ørestad ;)

Well what do you know, Cabinn will soon have facilities ranging from utter tourist trap all the way to Liebeskind design. The sky has no limits, I guess.

moveteam

December 23rd, 2008, 08:51 PM

Thank you Kipple :)

What about the facade at the Crown Plaza hotel?

Asmus

December 26th, 2008, 12:34 AM

Nice picture of the new hotel, Kipple. :-)

I'll supplement that with an evening with of the new apartments and offices close to the hotel.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3092/3135938801_c027219962_o.jpg

This image is taken from Sejlhuset looking northwest, just before Christmas.

Lars_HH

December 27th, 2008, 12:39 PM

Wauw Asmus, once again a brilliant picture from your hand. Remember to take the same picture at the exact same spot next year.

Lars_HH

December 31st, 2008, 09:45 AM

Happy new year everyone: cheers::nuts:

This is my top/flop 5 regarding the development of Ørestad this year.

Top 5
1. Bella Hotel going U/C.

2. The opening of Ørestad Bypark and the emerging of citylife and social interaction between the citizens of Ørestad.

3. The first shops opened on ground level (Bagels, DøgnNetto and a sushi restaurant on the way).

4. That all of the apartments has been sold or rented out in Ørestad C. (except in VM-bjerget) despite the downturn in the real estate market in Copenhagen - Ørestad is not a ghost town. This means that you actually see people on the way to work and start getting that urban feeling.

5a. VM-bjerget and Ørestad Gymnasium have won international recognition for their spectacular architecture.

5b. The credit crunch hasn’t hit that hard on the current construction of new buildings/projects in Ørestad and between 2009 and 2011 we will still see some interesting projects finished in Ørestad.

Flop 5

1. The credit crunch and the complete silence from NCC regarding the ØDT project.

2. The situation regarding the missing kindergarten and the elementary school on the “frimærke” ground.

3. The parking situation in Ørestad C. – it’s completely anarchy and the proposed parking project on Edvard Thomsens Vej has been postponed to 2010 (I was scheduled to be finished in autumn 2008). Even though I have seen Klaus Bondam a lot of times in my building - Cityhusene - on private visits (not in my apartment though:)) so he must be aware of the problem.

4. The “bad press” - EB and Berlingske had some rather negative campaigns about Ørestad. That’s basically okay, the debate in itself is good, but the articles were full of completely wrong factual information (I lost some of my respect for the Danish journalists on that occasion). Why didn’t they make an interview with some of the residents in Ørestad, so we could talk about some of the real challenges for Ørestad on the long run?

5a. I get this feeling that with the new project in Nordhavn and Carlsberg that Ørestad maybe will be forgotten.

5b. That Steen & Strøm hasn’t started in the Fields 2 cinema project yet – my daughter would love it. :)

See you all in 2009 with a brand new update the first weekend of January.

Lars_HH

December 31st, 2008, 09:49 AM

Af Ritzau d.31.12.08

Midt i finans-krisen lufter forretningsmanden Brian Mollerup sin vision for en multiarena i København. Kendte kunstværker og EM i fodbold indgår i drømmeplan

København: Stjerner fra de mest populære sportsgrene. Kunstværker som normalt kun kan nydes i udlandet. Konferencer i verdensklasse. Det er sådanne begivenheder og aktører, som forretningsmanden Brian Mollerup forestiller sig indtage et kommende multifunktionelt oplevelsescenter i København.

Kort før jul indleverede han i sin egenskab af direktør for selskabet Copenhagen Multiarena et bud på opførelsen af en multiarena i hovedstaden. Københavns Kommune har bedt om en arena med plads til 15.000 tilskuere, men Mollerup og hans selskab vil opføre et oplevelsescenter med plads til 40.000. Og det er ikke småting, forretningsmanden vil vise frem i sin arena. Han tænker på EM i fodbold med stjerner som Cristiano Ronaldo og Fernando Torres. Han tænker på de største sportsbegivenheder fra USA, mens kunstudstillinger i international klasse også indgår i direktørens drømmeplan.

- Hvis man ikke kan drømme det, så kan det ikke lade sig gøre, det skal man jo huske, siger Brian Mollerup.

Tilsagn fra investorer

Men Mollerups store armbevægelser er ikke alene båret af drømme og ønskescenarier. Underskrevne kontrakter med pengestærke, internationale samarbejdspartnere, en færdiglavet 3D-tegning over multiarenaens endelige udseende og en liste med tilsagn fra investorer og långivere giver en vis vægt i forhold til planerne om at opføre en multiarena til over 1,5 milliarder kroner.

Trods dystre økonomiske udsigter er direktøren ikke i tvivl om, at en multiarena international i topklasse i den københavnske bydel Ørestad på Amager vil være en god forretning. Det vil give en stor sideeffekt for de københavnske hoteller, det vil øge tilstrømningen af turister og gæster udefra, mens det helt generelt vil give et kæmpe løft til hovedstaden og Danmark.

Mange muligheder

- Jeg mener, at Danmark er underforsynet i forhold til det, man kalder oplevelses-økonomi. Danmark er underforsynet, fordi vi ikke har rammerne til at være med. En multiarena kan være med til at tiltrække de store kulturbegivenheder, almindelig underholdning i det hele taget, udstillinger og ikke mindst også de store events på sportssiden. Det kan være EM eller VM i forskellige sportsgrene. Hvad med NBA? Hvad med NFL? Jeg ser masser af muligheder, siger Brian Mollerup.

Den erfarne forretningsmand, der var medejer af håndboldklubben Slagelse Dream Team under tiden med Anja Andersen, ønsker ikke at løfte sløret for, præcist hvor mange og hvilke finansielle partnere han har indgået bindende aftaler med.

Samarbejdsaftale

En større del af finansieringen bliver dog løst via en samarbejdsaftale med den internationale sports- og entertainmentvirksomhed IMG, der har købt sig ind i alle arenaens mange VIP-sæder og lounges. Brian Mollerup bekræfter, at han har indgået en længerevarende aftale med koncernen, der kaster over 500 millioner kroner af sig.

Hvis Copenhagen Multiarena vinder opgaven, vil selskabet desuden kunne glæde sig over et rente- og afdragsfrit lån på 200 millioner kroner fra Københavns Kommune.

Multiarena udskudt

Mens Brian Mollerup har den positive mine på i forhold til finansieringen af sit byggeprojekt, har FC Københavns bestyrelsesformand, Flemming Østergaard, udskudt opførelsen af sin multiarena med mindst 12 måneder, så den tidligst står færdig i 2012. Ifølge Mollerup er det dog slet ikke muligt at sammenligne de to projekter.

Mere end en sportsarena

- Vores projekt bygger på et helt andet forretningsgrundlag. Jeg kan ikke svare på Flemmings vegne. Han har en forretning, som ligger midt inde i byen, han har sine begrænsninger, hvis jeg kan sige det sådan. Men de gør det utrolig godt, mere er der ikke at sige om det, forklarer Brian Mollerup, der slår fast, at hans projekt er langt mere end blot en sportsarena.

- Det er ikke kun en multiarena, det er et oplevelsescenter. Og det oplevelsescenter vil byde på wellnesscenter, det vil byde på et lægecenter, bowlingcenter, caféer, restauranter, som også har åbent i dagligdagen. Det vil sige, at selve oplevelsescentret vil trække folk til hver dag, det er ikke kun et spørgsmål om store events, lyder det fra direktøren.

Skal stå klar i 2013

Hvis Copenhagen Multiarena vinder buddet, skal arenaen stå klar til indvielse i marts 2013. Det er planen, at fodboldklubben FC Amager vil få hjemmebane i arenaen.

Foruden Copenhagen Multiarena er det højst sandsynligt, at også den internationale eventkoncern AEG Worldwide har indleveret et bud på en multiarena til Københavns Kommune. Sagen forventes at blive behandlet af Københavns Borgerrepræsentation i marts 2009.

moveteam

December 31st, 2008, 10:25 AM

Awesome! But FC Amager?! :D

ramblersen

December 31st, 2008, 12:23 PM

Sounds good - mainly. I like that they think big, Copenhagen shouldn't just strive for what Malmö has got nut want something more. That said, I think I'd prefer a more regular multiarena. I could fear this ends up being too much Parken 2 - just withput the big home team. If it wants to be everything, there's a risk it'll be neither-nor. Malmö Arena has turned out really great and that is a tough act to follow. This one could end up in a no man's land between Malmö and Parken. But without the home team for a regular Malmö Arena-style venue, I guess making it a place for a little bit of everything might be necessary and the way to go. And if they have the investors in place, I guess they know what they are doing. That Mollerup guy just reminds me a bit of the guy from the Kim's commercials. It will be interesting th see what AEG has come up with. And how they are going to look not least. But why wait until march, this is ten year's overdue?

Happy New Year everybody!:cheers:

Kipple

January 1st, 2009, 03:51 PM

HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYBODY

Bringing you pictures of the 180 degree fireworks spectacle at Ørestad City.

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FREKI

January 1st, 2009, 06:18 PM

Great pics mate! :)

NFLineast

January 2nd, 2009, 08:53 AM

I love the multi arena idea. Mainly because the plan is to offer up entertainment and dining on an every day basis. Needless to say, if they manage to get an NFL game I'm buying all the tickets I can get my hands on and inviting all my friends. Let's see the plans and dreams materialize sooner rather than later.

acebone

January 2nd, 2009, 11:21 AM

And now the first renderings are on the website:

http://copenhagenmultiarena.dk

cphdude

January 2nd, 2009, 11:47 AM

And now the first renderings are on the website:

http://copenhagenmultiarena.dk

It still says 50.000 on the page. I really hope they saty with that. IMO, there is really no reason to do it, if you are not going to build it with 50.000 seats.

As for the idea it self, I agree with ramblersen, and I think I have written about that before. If we can learn anything from parken, it is that it just does not work as an indoor arena and lack a lot for concerts and things like that. Noone wants more of that. Still, a lot has happend, since PARKEN was build, and perhaps it is possible now...Abd from a financial point of view, it may be the only chance we have, of building a nationalstadium bigger than PARKEN and getting the multiarena. Eventhough I would prefer 2 build them both seperately.

So the ideal solution for me, would be a classic AEG worldwide multiarena arena with around 15.000 seats and later a bew national stadium with 50-60.000 seats.

I love the multi arena idea. Mainly because the plan is to offer up entertainment and dining on an every day basis.

I think most arenas, to some extent, work like that today. Thats also what was to have kept the arena in Taastrup going. Lots of shops, and cinemas and dining. You just have to remember that the more you are open, the more it is costing. Sometimes, it may be cheaper, to simply build and use the arena as just that, and only use it for sports. Allthough I agree it could be a great please to meet outthere.

Needless to say, if they manage to get an NFL game I'm buying all the tickets I can get my hands on and inviting all my friends. Let's see the plans and dreams materialize sooner rather than later

Honestly, thats just crazy talk. When people want who wants to build something, starts talking about eurocup in football and NFL, it always makes me question, how serious they really are. I mean, NFL? No way NFL is comming, just because we build an arena. This is not a hockey nation, and our league is crap. Sure they did London, because of the many american expats living there, and they might do a few other capitals. But Copenhagen? No way. Even if they came to Scandinavia, and thats a pretty fucking big if, they would no doubt pick Sweden or Finland over Denmark.

And Eurocup? With a 40.000 seat stadium...Jeez...

NFLineast

January 2nd, 2009, 12:26 PM

I think most arenas, to some extent, work like that today. Thats also what was to have kept the arena in Taastrup going. Lots of shops, and cinemas and dining. You just have to remember that the more you are open, the more it is costing. Sometimes, it may be cheaper, to simply build and use the arena as just that, and only use it for sports. Allthough I agree it could be a great please to meet outthere.
Well, I was thinking purely from the perspective of someone like myself who would want to go to the arena on a Tuesday night for a quick round of bowling and an organic hamburger.

Sure they did London, because of the many american expats living there, and they might do a few other capitals. But Copenhagen? No way. Even if they came to Scandinavia, and thats a pretty fucking big if, they would no doubt pick Sweden or Finland over Denmark.

Well, the NFL has realized that there's a buck to be made outside of the US. That's why they have committed to games in London last year, this year, and the coming two years (plus Toronto this year), and commissioner Goodell has expressed that the NFL intends to expand even further into the international arena. There has even been talk of a future London NFL franchise (imagine the logistics). As for Sweden and Finland I believe Denmark is a much more likely venue. As far as I know Denmark is the only country in Europe where the NFL has enjoyed extensive coverage on national TV (Zulu, 3+) as opposed to subscription cable. The NFL coverage gets disproportionately high ratings for their broadcasting timeslots and has a very, very loyal following.

I agree with you that there isn't a snowball's chance in hell that we'd get a European Cup Final in a 40,000 seater.

cphdude

January 2nd, 2009, 02:56 PM

Well, I was thinking purely from the perspective of someone like myself who would want to go to the arena on a Tuesday night for a quick round of bowling and an organic hamburger.

Yep. It could be great for that. But as I said, you have to make a lot of money, for it to be worth it. I would compare a place like that, to Scala in city. A mix of cinema and eateries. And a high rent. It is of couse, very expensive to open the center every day, and there might not be enough people for that. But I hope so.

Well, the NFL has realized that there's a buck to be made outside of the US. That's why they have committed to games in London last year, this year, and the coming two years (plus Toronto this year), and commissioner Goodell has expressed that the NFL intends to expand even further into the international arena. There has even been talk of a future London NFL franchise (imagine the logistics). As for Sweden and Finland I believe Denmark is a much more likely venue. As far as I know Denmark is the only country in Europe where the NFL has enjoyed extensive coverage on national TV (Zulu, 3+) as opposed to subscription cable. The NFL coverage gets disproportionately high ratings for their broadcasting timeslots and has a very, very loyal following.

Perhaps, but I dont really see it. And even with a loyal following, I doubt it would be worth it for NFL, even if the TV is the most important. And I also think they would want a much bigger arena. 50.000 at least.

I agree with you that there isn't a snowball's chance in hell that we'd get a European Cup Final in a 40,000 seater.

Exactly. Which why I dont get it at all. It is not be enough to lure DBU away from Parken, at least not with size. It cant host CL final. And it is way to big for FC Amager. So even as a stadium, is seams to be a hybrid, not really suted for anything.

Nah, go for 50.000 and you will easily get to be new national arena and all the rest will follow.

NFLineast

January 2nd, 2009, 04:37 PM

And I also think they would want a much bigger arena. 50.000 at least.

On that we agree completely. They're not coming unless the stadium takes at least 50K. It would look too small-time on TV just like soccer from Parken does. I think the most important thing to the NFL will be the exposure (and to some extent the logistics). Geographically speaking a game in CPH could become a talking point in all of Northern Europe, and the Baltics, and would hopefully sell out in minutes like the London games did. Anywho, sorry about the thread drift.

Lars_HH

January 2nd, 2009, 04:47 PM

ØRESTAD STATION PÅ STØRRELSE MED ODENSE BANEGÅRD

For blot otte år siden fandtes Ørestad station slet ikke. I dag betjener stationen hver dag næsten lige så mange passagerer som Odense banegård. Det viser nye tal fra Transportministeriet.

Transportministeriet har netop opgjort det samlede antal passagerer på alle stationer for tog, S-tog og Metro, og her ligger Ørestad på en 20. plads med 7.873 daglige påstigninger, mens Odense Hovedbanegård ligger på en 18. plads med 8.092 daglige påstigninger. Der er altså kun en forskel på 219 daglige påstigninger mellem Ørestad og stationen i Danmarks fjerdestørste by. Der bor flere mennesker i Aalborg end i Odense, men Aalborg banegård er helt udenfor top 20-listen og altså under Ørestad i passagertal.

Nørreport er landets travleste station efterfulgt af Københavns hovedbanegård og Lufthavnen i Kastrup. Den eneste jyske station i top 20 er Århus Banegård, der kommer ind på en 13. plads.

Metrostationerne vejer i det hele taget tungt i statistikken. Ud af de første seks stationer er de fem af stationerne også metrostationer.

Det var først i sommeren 2000, at de første regionaltog begyndte at standse i Ørestad. I oktober 2002 kom også Metroen til, og siden er passagertallet steget støt. Ørestad station er ejet og drevet af By & Havn.

NFLineast

January 2nd, 2009, 04:52 PM

...and from berlingske:

Ørestad Station har på få år vokset sig næsten lige så stor som Odense Banegård. Næsten 8000 mennesker stiger hver dag på et tog på stationen.
Af Søren Aaes
Sidst opdateret fredag den 2. januar 2009, 15:10

Ude i Ørestad city, på stationen hvor Metroens linje 1 møder Øresundstogene, er der efterhånden så mange passagerere, at Ørestad Station håndterer lige så mange rejsende som Odense Banegård.

Det viser tal fra transportministeriet, som udviklingsselskabet By og Havn refererer i en pressemeddelelse.

I 2006 og 2007 havde Ørestad Station 7.873 daglige påstigninger mens Odense Banegård havde 8.092. Det tal skal dog ses i lyset af de mange påstigninger som Metroen har medført på Ørestad Station, der ligger lige over for Skandinaviens største shoppingcenter Field's.

- Transportministeriet vurderer, at passagerantallet på Ørestad station vil stige i de kommende år. Der har siden juli 2007 været en vækst i indbyggertallet i Ørestad som helhed på cirka 50 % - svarende til ca. 1.700 beboere. Der bor nu 5.000 mennesker i Ørestad, og der arbejder cirka dobbelt så mange i bydelen, hedder det i pressemeddelelsen.

I sammenligning med nogle af de større Københavnske stationer, er Ørestad dog stadig en lille fisk på en foreløbig 20. plads. I toppen ligger Danmarks travleste station, Nørreport, med 57.701 daglige påstigninger efterfulgte af København H. og Kbh. Lufthavn, Kastrup med henholdsvis 53.867 og 15.926 daglige påstigninger på tog, Metro og S-tog.

Først på en 13. plads over de travleste stationer finder man en jysk repræsentant i form af Århus Hovedbanegård, der har 9.267 daglige påstigninger.

staff

January 2nd, 2009, 09:02 PM

I wonder how many of the daily passengers at Örestad are Swedish? :)

DenverDane

January 2nd, 2009, 11:19 PM

Honestly, thats just crazy talk. When people want who wants to build something, starts talking about eurocup in football and NFL, it always makes me question, how serious they really are. I mean, NFL? No way NFL is comming, just because we build an arena. This is not a hockey nation, and our league is crap. Sure they did London, because of the many american expats living there, and they might do a few other capitals. But Copenhagen? No way. Even if they came to Scandinavia, and thats a pretty fucking big if, they would no doubt pick Sweden or Finland over Denmark.

Aren't you mixing up NFL and NHL? NFL is the American football league, not hockey, but other than that I tend to agree.

cphdude

January 3rd, 2009, 01:55 PM

Aren't you mixing up NFL and NHL? NFL is the American football league, not hockey, but other than that I tend to agree.

You're right, I did. Sorry about that. Still, I think the argument makes sence.

NFLineast

January 4th, 2009, 07:41 PM

I was cycling by the Concert Hall tonight and they were projecting some footage up on the building. The lights looked cool and all but in all honesty it was very difficult to make out what was going on in the pictures. It looked as if the opacity of the facade was a bit of a problem. I suppose you can't have a high degree of opacity in order to accommodate the Meteor Effect and clear visuals successfully projected at the same time. Maybe graphics will work better. Maybe they were just testing.

bongo-anders

January 5th, 2009, 06:30 PM

To better understand the Arena/stadium thing, i found some websites that explains the shift from arena to stadium at the Saitama Super arena that has the same feature as the new Ørestad arena.

http://www.architectureweek.com/2000/0517/design_2-1.html

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=326545

Kipple

January 5th, 2009, 07:27 PM

Great find, Bongo-anders!! :)

Thank you very much for the informative links.

From the official site (showing the different options):
http://www.saitama-arena.co.jp/e/facility.html

_tictac_

January 5th, 2009, 08:24 PM

Lars_HH

January 5th, 2009, 09:08 PM

Sakset fra erhvervsbladet:

Betalingsstandsning

Men det er ikke kun Ledreborg Palace Golf og Greve Golf , der ondt i økonomien. Det samme har for eksempel det storstilede projekt Rømø Golf & Wellness - ikke mindst efter at ejeren af det, Eurotrust A/S, onsdag gik i betalingsstandsning.

Gennem længere tid har det kriseramte vindenergiselskab fra Kolding uden held forsøgt at sælge Rømø Golf & Wellness, som formentlig på grund af sin afsides beliggende i Havneby på Rømøs sydspids aldrig er blevet det ventede tilløbsstykke. Specielt tyske golf - og wellness-kunder har svigtet, sandsynligvis fordi der på Rømøs tyske naboø Sild netop er åbnet et eksklusivt golf - og spa-anlæg, Budersand. Rømø Golfklub har heller ikke set mange medlemmer - ja, faktisk har medlemstallet endnu ikke rundet de første 100, selv om de første ni huller på Rømø-banen blev indviet i efteråret 2006. Der er endnu ikke skabt klarhed over, hvad betalingsstandsningen i Eurotrust vil betyde for Rømø Golf & Well-ness.

Yderligere et baneanlæg meldes i økonomiske vanskeligheder. Det gælder Rø Golfbaner A/S på Bornholm, som har meddelt sine kreditorer, at man med øjeblikkelig virkning udsætter sine betalinger. Når der ikke er tale om betalingsstandsning, skyldes det, at selskabet har en sag verserende med Skat, som har underkendt en hidtil gældende momsfritagelse på greenfee og baneleje. De seneste fire regnskabsår har Rø Golf - baner A/haft underskud - i år på halvanden mio. kr., og dét finder selskabet uforsvarligt overfor aktionærerne.

De økonomiske problemer på Ledreborg Palace har i øvrigt ført til en beroligende udmelding i denne uge fra Royal Golf Center på Amager om, at anlægsudgifterne her ikke finansieres via banklån, men i mellemregning med Poul Sundberg Holding - af egne penge, der står på egen konto.

Til historien om den øjeblikkelige krise for danske golfprojekter hører også, at det mest eksklusive af dem alle, Lübker Golf Resort på Djursland, på ubestemt tid har udskudt planerne om at opføre et femstjernet lejlighedshotel, Lübker Lodge Hotel. Byggeriet skulle have været igangsat i denne tid og have stået færdigt inden udgangen af 2010. Dertil kommer, at salget af 123 M2-sommerhuse er helt stagneret. Kun 18 er pt. solgt.

Christian347

January 5th, 2009, 09:23 PM

Interesting, however, Aalborg is not bigger than Odense. Not even close.

They are probably just talking about the size of the municipalities. But you are right that Odense is bigger.

NFLineast

January 6th, 2009, 11:31 AM

@bongo-anders, thank you so much for the highly interesting links. I hope they get the ball moving on the stadium (no pun intended) and that they come up with a great name for it as well. "The Copenhagen Multi Arena" is simply too lame. Any good ideas?

Markowitch

January 6th, 2009, 12:50 PM

I hope that [..] they come up with a great name for it as well. "The Copenhagen Multi Arena" is simply too lame. Any good ideas?

What about the "Malmö got one and we need to have one too" arena? :lol:
Perhaps they are going to get some sponsor to name it... that's what the did in Malmö anyway. So it could end up beeing named SAS Arena or Faxe Kondi Arena. Perhaps if the muncipality of Copenhagen are willing to sponsor, it would simply be Copenhagen Arena...

staff

January 6th, 2009, 01:49 PM

edit,.

NFLineast

January 6th, 2009, 04:29 PM

Perhaps they are going to get some sponsor to name it...

You're probably right. One could always hope for something catchy and timeless like Wembley, Foxboro, Mile High, Wrigley Field, Yankee Stadium, Candlestick Park, San Siro, Stamford Bridge etc. I doubt that one would find anything in the local geography that would be suitable though.

Hang on, "Flat As A Pancake Stadium" might work....

cphdude

January 6th, 2009, 04:55 PM

Np doubt it will get a sponsorname, but probably be known as cph arena. Thats reminds me, SAS Arena is loosing their sponsor and will neen a new name.

Part of the reason I think sponsornames are stupid. It is likely to change very often...

Medel

January 6th, 2009, 05:35 PM

It still says 50.000 on the page. I really hope they saty with that. IMO, there is really no reason to do it, if you are not going to build it with 50.000 seats.

As for the idea it self, I agree with ramblersen, and I think I have written about that before. If we can learn anything from parken, it is that it just does not work as an indoor arena and lack a lot for concerts and things like that. Noone wants more of that. Still, a lot has happend, since PARKEN was build, and perhaps it is possible now...Abd from a financial point of view, it may be the only chance we have, of building a nationalstadium bigger than PARKEN and getting the multiarena. Eventhough I would prefer 2 build them both seperately.

So the ideal solution for me, would be a classic AEG worldwide multiarena arena with around 15.000 seats and later a bew national stadium with 50-60.000 seats.

I think most arenas, to some extent, work like that today. Thats also what was to have kept the arena in Taastrup going. Lots of shops, and cinemas and dining. You just have to remember that the more you are open, the more it is costing. Sometimes, it may be cheaper, to simply build and use the arena as just that, and only use it for sports. Allthough I agree it could be a great please to meet outthere.

Honestly, thats just crazy talk. When people want who wants to build something, starts talking about eurocup in football and NFL, it always makes me question, how serious they really are. I mean, NFL? No way NFL is comming, just because we build an arena. This is not a hockey nation, and our league is crap. Sure they did London, because of the many american expats living there, and they might do a few other capitals. But Copenhagen? No way. Even if they came to Scandinavia, and thats a pretty fucking big if, they would no doubt pick Sweden or Finland over Denmark.

And Eurocup? With a 40.000 seat stadium...Jeez...

Can there really be a healthy economy in this? Copenhagen already has a huge indoor arena, Parken. I know this is not a real multi arena, but it’s perfect for football and OK for huge concerts. A new 40k+ arena will compete with Parken about the big concerts, but how many concerts each year need an arena like this? They may also manage to compete with Parken about hosting the national football team, but for most matches Parken will be big enough for them and for sure cheaper to rent. After my opinion it will be extremely difficult to form a third “big” football club in Copenhagen that can attract enough spectators to cover the lease for a 40k arena.

I understand that a city like Copenhagen needs a multi arena to host international sporting events and concerts among other things. As far as I know, Denmark is the only of the four big Nordic countries that have never hosted a big international sporting event and I don’t count badminton and European club football finals in the old days as big events. The only reason for that is the arena situation. While Sweden, Finland and Norway have hosted Olympics, Hockey WC, WC and EC in athletics and many other big sporting events, this has been impossible due to the arena situation in Denmark.

What Denmark need is an arena like Globen or Malmø Arena, so they can host international indoor sports events and concerts too small for Globen. Even this will financially be a heavy burden, because you have now hockey teams that can contribute with big parts of the bill and your handball teams do not attract enough people to rent a 10k+ arena. Another problem is the competition from Malmø Arena which will be a well established arena before the one in Copenhagen is built. Anyway I suppose most of the bidders for the arena are serious and knows what they are doing with their own and the tax payer’s money. I have my doubt when it comes to the 40k+ arena.

I agree that a National Football stadium should seat between 50 and 60k. This is something else than a private owned multi arena and should be owned by the Danish Football Association and partly be payed by the Government and the City of Copenhagen.

ramblersen

January 6th, 2009, 06:40 PM

^^
Agree 100 % all the way through (except that you wrote Globen instead of Parken once:)).

As for the name, I'm all for a sponsorname - whatever it takes to make this thing viable - but rather on a longterm basis. Too bad that Saxo Bank has gone into cycling for it would be a good name. It has historical/local connotations, wouldn't sound too much like a sponsor name and works well in other languages. That makes it a good name for an bank (being called Danske Bank and wanting to expand internationally is downright hopeless) and would too for an arena. If a sponsor name is not chosen what about Absalon, it has the same qualities of being local but whit an international sound to it and easy to pronounce in other languages. And afterall he wass the quy who erected the first castle in Copenhagen where Cjristiansborg lies now.

NFLineast

January 6th, 2009, 06:47 PM

ramblersen

January 6th, 2009, 07:16 PM

Whatever they do I hope they don't let politicians pick the name. I love living in Ørestaden but in all honesty I think the "Ørestaden" name is a train wreck. Phonetically you'd be hard pressed to do worse. The same could be said for the name "Euro".

Absalon is not bad at all. I like that one. It's got a good flow to it. Absalon Arena. Another potential candidate could be "Hafnia" which is Copenhagen in Latin (although "Absalon Arena" flows much better).

Yes what were they thinking? Another annoying naming practice in Cph. is naming everything "Ny" if it is changed a bit. "NY Ellebjerg Station". It does not continue to be new for God's sake, Just stick to the old "Ellebjerg" name or come up with something entirely new and better. They are also going to call the moved Enghave Station "NY Enghave Station" I believe instead of just Carlsberg Station which is exactly what it will be. Which would be much more informative, less confusing (with Sydhavnen Station being the main station serving Kongens Enghave, Enghave Plads being on Vesterbro and the Enghave Station in Carlsberg/Valby), , easier to pronounce and just sound better. Sorry to go off topic, it just annoys me!:bash:

NFLineast

January 6th, 2009, 07:46 PM

On the subject of dubious train station names, howabout "DR Byen - Universitetet"...? I mean, yeah, DR Byen is next door, but the university is a healthy mile away. Conversely the university happens to be the next door neighbor of Islands Brygge Station but I guess whoever is in charge of naming the stations thinks "DR Byen - Universitetet" works better. Jeez.

bongo-anders

January 6th, 2009, 08:45 PM

NFLineast

January 6th, 2009, 08:53 PM

Before DR moved out to Ørestaden, the University was supposed to be placed around that station, but as we now it didn´t.

That explains the University name, but the reason that they have not deleted the name yet is because the computer that runs the metro trains still has the old name Universitetet in the database.

If they wanted to change the name they have to configurate the computers that are running the entire network and that is not just something you do.

I know that is the official explanation, however it's the lamest of lame f*^cked up excuses. So I guess we're just going to have a station name that implies that a university is close by even though it really isn't because the company running the Metro can't be bothered to either

a). Reprogram their software
b). Simply change the signs and let the computer think that the university is close by.

Sorry, but whenever I hear the excuse: "Oh, but these software systems are very complex" my ear always hears: "We'd have to hire an IT guy on an hourly basis and he'd charge us for it".

bongo-anders

January 6th, 2009, 09:34 PM

Haha you are probably right, i am not into all that computer stuff so i don´t know how it works but as long i can play Football Manager and surf on the internet i am very happy.

Zichau

January 6th, 2009, 10:43 PM

I don't think Copenhagen Mulitarena is a good idear. Build an indoor-arena for 15-18.000 and that's it. All that junk they come up with, just makes it a no-go!
We already have two large football-clubs with two large stadiums. We don't need a third and we don't need to host any UEFA-match or whatever. What we need is a big indoor-arena, without any other crap!

Lars_HH

January 7th, 2009, 06:19 PM

http://ekstrabladet.dk/sport/anden_sport/anden_sport/article1106648.ece

Zichau

January 7th, 2009, 08:31 PM

^^

Atleast it look's like there, finally, is gonna be something. And that's great news. :)

NFLineast

January 7th, 2009, 09:02 PM

It concerns me that they seem to have their eye set on a 40k seater. We already have that. Look at all the comments to the article in EB. Virtually everyone agrees. I think 50k is a minimum and 60k is probably better. Also, great to see that I'm not the only one who is hoping for an NFL game...

staff

January 7th, 2009, 09:10 PM

If they're going to build a full size stadium (ie. not indoor "hockey size") they definitely should make it at least 55.000 - ie. the largest in the Nordics.
Why build another ~40.000 indoor stadium like Parken?

Markowitch

January 7th, 2009, 10:35 PM

I love living in Ørestaden but in all honesty I think the "Ørestaden" name is a train wreck. Phonetically you'd be hard pressed to do worse. The same could be said for the name "Euro".

Im kind of curious. Is it pronounced "Ørestaden" or "Ørestad"? The latter is what I expect it should be, just like Aalborg is not Aalborgen. Danish cities usually ends with "sted" and not with "stad". But perhaps this trait in the name is from Sweden then?

Anyway pronouncing Øerstad in danish is like "Øoerestaad" while swedish is the more compact "Ørestat" with the pressure beeing on "Ø". However, Amager in swedish is horrifically pronounced with a hard "g". So now you are warned if you are ever lost in Malmö!

Markowitch

January 7th, 2009, 10:45 PM

On the subject of dubious train station names, howabout "DR Byen - Universitetet"...? I mean, yeah, DR Byen is next door, but the university is a healthy mile away.

Howcome that the "TV Byen", as it was called in the old days, was changed to "DR Byen"? I don't think it's the best idea to name a station after a company. Why not just call it "Operaen" (edit: not "operaen" but "koncertsalen")? Something that relates to either a street or a function close by? Like Copenhagen Central - Hovedbanegården is not called "Sas Royal Station". Hmm sounds cool though :nuts::lol:

Kipple

January 7th, 2009, 11:07 PM

Today i can show pictures of the live projectors at DR Byen.

Sadly the show put on was really nothing compared to the first show i saw some time ago.

But ironicly enough they had a live "test-frame" feed of TV2 Charlie on the front of the building.

The videos i shot have lost A LOT of quality in the transfer to photobucket (they lost most of the light) and are not very good. But you have got the chance to watch them anyway.

Still do enjoy.... ;)

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2007%2001%2009/DSC02576.jpg

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The three very bright blue spots in the middle of the picture below are reflections of the projectors
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Notice how the "test-frame" moves around on the facade to the left
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http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2007%2001%2009/th_MOV02579.jpg (http://s425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2007%2001%2009/?action=view&current=MOV02579.flv)

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2007%2001%2009/th_MOV02600.jpg (http://s425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2007%2001%2009/?action=view&current=MOV02600.flv)

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2007%2001%2009/th_MOV02618.jpg (http://s425.photobucket.com/albums/pp334/KippleOe/Orestad%2007%2001%2009/?action=view&current=MOV02618.flv)

Kipple

January 7th, 2009, 11:12 PM

Howcome that the "TV Byen", as it was called in the old days, was changed to "DR Byen"?

Its called DR Byen because they gathered all the branches of DR into one area.

Since DR is a public company and the fact that DR Byen is a landmark site in Ørestad and DK as a whole, i think that its fine that they called the metro station "DR Byen".

cphdude

January 8th, 2009, 02:58 PM

I know that is the official explanation, however it's the lamest of lame f*^cked up excuses. So I guess we're just going to have a station name that implies that a university is close by even though it really isn't because the company running the Metro can't be bothered to either

a). Reprogram their software
b). Simply change the signs and let the computer think that the university is close by.

Sorry, but whenever I hear the excuse: "Oh, but these software systems are very complex" my ear always hears: "We'd have to hire an IT guy on an hourly basis and he'd charge us for it".

Its not only their own programs that needed to be changed, it was also a lot of emergency programs apparently. They worries, that if they started overwriting things now, there could be confusion, if they ever needed to send ambulances to an accident at either station. So the selution was to simply not change anything.

If they're going to build a full size stadium (ie. not indoor "hockey size") they definitely should make it at least 55.000 - ie. the largest in the Nordics.
Why build another ~40.000 indoor stadium like Parken?

I agree. I know it will make it more expensive and harder to fill, but as mentioned several times, how often do we really need a 40.000 seat stadium? And if you keep the multiarena aspect, what makes the money, is stil going to be the arena part.

Parken did want to keep the current level and even expand a little, if DBU would have signed a long-tearm contract with them. They did not and therefore it was better, to build VIP seats. But we dont have that case here, (at least no at the same level) and so you cant factor that in.

I keep coming back to the U2 concerts, who could have sold an estimated 400.000 tickets. And Parken routinely sells out. Robbie Williams, Bruce Springsteen, SENSATION, Tiësto, REM, Celine Dion, George Michael, AC/DC....All sold out Parken, some in a matter of minutes. Robbie even did 2 nights a few years back...Madonna and Roling Stones all went to Horsen to play for more people...After having shafted Denmark, for a while...And we all know there are football matches, that could take 55-60.000...So the need is there... And we miss out on alot, by not having the facilities.

cphdude

January 8th, 2009, 02:58 PM

Btw, thanks for the pics kipple...

NFLineast

January 8th, 2009, 03:02 PM

Im kind of curious. Is it pronounced "Ørestaden" or "Ørestad"? The latter is what I expect it should be, just like Aalborg is not Aalborgen. Danish cities usually ends with "sted" and not with "stad". But perhaps this trait in the name is from Sweden then?

Anyway pronouncing Øerstad in danish is like "Øoerestaad" while swedish is the more compact "Ørestat" with the pressure beeing on "Ø". However, Amager in swedish is horrifically pronounced with a hard "g". So now you are warned if you are ever lost in Malmö!

Maybe it's just the locals who call it Ørestaden. It's not uncommon to refer to a name as noun in spoken Danish. E.g. Ørestaden, Havnestaden. The important variable is that the name ends in a noun. As for pressure, it is on the "Ø" in Danish as well. I was under the impression that it is on "Stad" in Swedish though? Whenever I hear Swedes talk about it on the train they always refer to it as "Øre'stad".

I guess you could draw a parallel in English to "The City" (New York City), "The Windy City" (Chicago) to some extent.