Since Part 1 of the BIG HUGE Copagenhagen Ørestad Update Thread is about to be archived, this one will take over.

To start with I'll repost my last photothread and the Escher Tower news.
Remember that you can still read the old thread ones it has been archived...

If anyone else wan't to copy some of their latest picture or news post (maybe the Libeskind ones?) you'd better do it soon before the old thread is closed down.

RE-POST of last phototour from the old thread:

The sun is shinning, so it's time for a photo tour of the massive construction site of Ørestad City! :)

Here we go...

Approching Ørestad City, with its crane clustered skyline:
http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/4322/orestadcitymaj2006x018li.jpg

http://img281.imageshack.us/img281/6701/orestadcitymaj2006x029kh.jpg

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/2729/orestadcitymaj2006x038lt.jpg

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/9876/orestadcitymaj2006x040wt.jpg

http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/3577/orestadcitymaj2006x059ab.jpg

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/8260/orestadcitymaj2006x065xb.jpg

http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/6277/orestadcitymaj2006x070el.jpg

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/5131/orestadcitymaj2006x084qt.jpg

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/9199/orestadcitymaj2006x093lc.jpg

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/2218/orestadcitymaj2006x101jw.jpg

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/9293/orestadcitymaj2006x110gn.jpg

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/9732/orestadcitymaj2006x127ji.jpg

This second KLP office building ...
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/7042/klp2816pw.jpg

... is now starting construction on this site:
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/8541/orestadcitymaj2006x138jh.jpg

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/6738/orestadcitymaj2006x144zd.jpg

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/3456/orestadcitymaj2006x150kd.jpg

http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/4348/orestadcitymaj2006x167th.jpg

http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/2195/orestadcitymaj2006x171cl.jpg

Bellahus next to Bella Center Metro station:
http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/5267/orestadcitymaj2006x187tj.jpg

A final look a the cranes from "the bush"...
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/5890/orestadcitymaj2006x193sa.jpg

... and a view towards Ørestad North and the rising concert hall
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/6861/orestadnordmaj2006x208jy.jpg


Soon some of the 12 floor residentials will be at full height and more projects will be above ground, so this will definitely not be the last photo tour this spring... :D

RE-POST of the Escher Tower news:

Time for some BIG news!!!

A 200m/54-55 floor hotel tower for Ørestad City!

Before everyone gets too carried away, I think we can only consider this a vision to start with. It is Ørestad City with its 80m restriction, so I don't really know what the chances is of this being build. But they are certainly trying to challange the authorities, which is a good start...

Anyway back to the project. It's designed by BIG. It seems to be the latest version of the Fields hotel tower. The hotel chain FIRST Hotels is the commisioner of the project, so it can't be pure fantasy. The project is called the Escher Tower (If you don't allready know about Escher, do a google image search and you'll be lost for hours).
Seems like our very own Turning Torso - just a little bit taller :D

Here's a few pictures. More can be found on BIG's homepage.

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/571/eschertower14ox.jpg
copyright: BIG

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/682/eschertower23pi.jpg
copyright: BIG

http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/6011/eschertower35ia.jpg
copyright: BIG

Okay, ill repost my last replay from the old one...

I thought the NCC one was the "Field's Hotel", but I'm not sure of anything. From the first of the renderings it looks like it is a bit away from Ferring, but on the second one it looks like it is close by. I'm confussed...

I think perhaps, since it is commisioned by First Hotel, and they dont own any land in Ørestaden and are not likely to actually pay for it them selfs, it is probably just a suggestion...


If you want to see the reception photos go to the BIG website and choose cronological. It's under 2006 and it's called "BIG".

Thanks...Why the hell do they have to berry it like that....Looks good though and that fact that both Ritt and Bondam shows up proved that he is moving up in the world...And lets face it. With the W and M houses, Bjerget, and the possible Battery with Mosque and this project, he can pretty much call Ørestaden his personal backyeard....


And finally yes, 20.000 m2 seems like too little for a 200 m tower.
well, perhaps it will work. A very slim tower as planed....Or perhaps they simply need 20.000 m2 and already expects the make it shorter...Or perhaps, and this is my dream version, 20.000 is just for the hotel, and the to 20 floors is to be used for apartments....Now that would be a kick ass idea...Oh, well...cant get to excited about an idea like this...

....And we all look forward to the next photo update from Ørestaden tournesol..

Nice pics, tournesol!

I'll post some newer ones tomorrow. I love the development of Ørestaden.

Now that the colors have been "attached" to Signalhuset it actually doesn't look that bad at all!

Peter K

Nice pics..... and awesome renderings.... and well yeah....emm..... in our dreams! :(

/\ hey, atleast we're seeing 'serious' skyscraper proposols in CPH now! :) It's a start... and the polititions seem to love it... also... it is in Ørestad, which means the NIMBYs can't complain about it ruining the old/historic CPH skyline... :)

Sure they can... and think of the extreme risk of planes mistaking it for a runway.... or even worse... giant Gorillas with cute blondes!!!!

Some quick news:

Rambøll announced today that they'll move their HQ to Ørestad City.
They'll construct a new 40.000 sqm. building at the site located south of the motorway and Ferring building and east of the comming World Trad Center.
The masterplan doesn't allow anything tall here, so it will most likely be 8 floors tall.
The design is not made yet, and they expect it to be completed in the summer 2009

Would that be the same site as where BIG (or PLOT) has proposed this carpark?

http://www.mikaellykmadsen.dk/skyscrapercity/bigparking.jpg
copyright: BIG

Somehow I always thought this was the site ment for Ørestad House.
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Also, NCC will soon have to reveal those hotel plans, they wrote "in 2 weeks" about 2 weeks ago.

EDIT: I see NCC now also has some info about the libeskind masterplan on this website, can be found here (http://www.ncc.dk/templates/GenericPage____9885.aspx).

A 200m/54-55 floor hotel tower for Ørestad City!

Great news! Maybe we see a little skyscraper competition between Sweden and Denmark soon, hopefully Norway and Finland will join! :okay:

Would that be the same site as where BIG (or PLOT) has proposed this carpark?

http://www.mikaellykmadsen.dk/skyscrapercity/bigparking.jpg
copyright: BIG

Somehow I always thought this was the site ment for Ørestad House.
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Yes, that's the site. I've seen this BIG carpark once before, but I think it has nothing to do with this Rambøll project. I wouldn't mind if it has though :)

The Ørestad House site is the one to the left of this BIG project, where the WTC is now comming...

NICE

i like this photo http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/4322/orestadcitymaj2006x018li.jpg
Copenhagen. The mini Dubai of Scandinavia :D

Do you know where exactly that 200 meter building will stand and when will it be finished?
I hope it not will be to close to the old town.

^^^
Maybe something like this - since it's the fields hotel...just a guess

http://img416.imageshack.us/img416/9407/bigparking1xc.jpg

sorry to tell you, but this isn't an official rendering :nono: hehe...

Nice drawing i like the red color :D. You should be the new architect for the Ørestad. ;)

It looks like they´ve started construction on VM bjerget

Does anyone have any info on this project?

The only renderings i could find where these, which doesn´t show a whole lot:

http://www.orestad.dk/vm_bjerget-image2.jpg

There is something about "mountain dwellings" on www.big.dk ...under the icon called "MTN"...Imo it looks pretty cool just next to the V and M houses

I thought I'd better post some links about the big Liebeskind project in Ørestad. It covers a huge area. The plan certainly looks very interesting, and I think this map in particular gives a lot of information about the project (and it's in English):
http://www.ncc.dk/upload/dk/nyt_kontor/pdf/orestad_sitplan.pdf

These two links are also well worth checking out. Both of them with models of the area (but descriptions in Danish):
http://www.orestad.dk/index/erhverv/erhvervsbyggerier/libeskind.htm
http://www.ncc.dk/templates/GenericPage____9885.aspx

That's actually pretty good... I hope the cladding will be as glassy as posible :)

A 3d animation of the project: http://www.orestad.dk/libeskind.avi ( 6mb )

Today the construction of VM-bjerget officially Startet: http://www.orestad.dk/index/privat/nyhedsbrev/spadestik_pa_vm_bjerget.htm

Today the construction of VM-bjerget officially Startet: http://www.orestad.dk/index/privat/nyhedsbrev/spadestik_pa_vm_bjerget.htm

Thats really great news. I had no idea they were that far in the proces. I thought they were still talking financing... :) :cheers:

Is it just me, or isn´t VM-bjerget facing in the wrong direction?

Personally i think it should overlook Fælleden, instead of Tårnby/VM huset

Is it just me, or isn´t VM-bjerget facing in the wrong direction?

Personally i think it should overlook Fælleden, instead of Tårnby/VM huset

I think it should be facing Ørestad City - it would be the most natural as it is the center of the new city

I think it should be facing Ørestad City - it would be the most natural as it is the center of the new city

The only real daylight comes from the windows facing forward, which I assume is the reason for choosing south as the direction VM-bjerget should be facing...

The only real daylight comes from the windows facing forward, which I assume is the reason for choosing south as the direction VM-bjerget should be facing...
I think the question is whether it should face south-west, with a view towards the centre of Ørestad, or south-east, with a view in direction of Tårnby and the airport.

As I see it, it will face south-east. I think the reason is, that the VM-buildings are taller in the western end, so if the VM-bjerget faced south-west, the building would get less sun that it is going to get now.

Ørestadsselskabet have launched a new website about Ørestad Syd. Here is a little more details about the planned projects.
http://www.orestadsyd.dk/syd-hjem.htm

Most detailed renderings (the first renderings I've seen from Ørestad Syd) can be found on www.bighouse.dk.
Interesting architecture, but I don't like it really. I don't know why, but it just don't fell in my taste. Also it doesn't seem like a building that can room as much as 580 appartments (which I belive is the highest number in a single house in Ørestad so far).

Thanks for the info and link...

That Bighouse isn't as bad as I've feared, but I'm sure they will f*** it up with some ridicules cladding or God aweful colurs :sleepy:

But so far the rendering looks accepterble imo - although a few extra floors would greatly improve it :)

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/6916/bighouseorestadkx2.jpg

Any news on the NCC hotel?

I am also waiting and waiting to hear about that NCC hotel.
Its two month since they said on the TV news that the plans were going to be revealed in a couple of weeks...>(

^^Yeah...Gotta love that Danish building industry, their slowness and their love of short, fat boxes...

Sjælsø Gruppen have released their half year status with some news and a new rendering of the World Trade Center Copenhagen. Look at page 20 of the pdf:
http://hugin.info/86917/R/1071805/183086.pdf

I think the project have improved a lot. I can't wait to see have it further developes!!
Hope they start construction soon...!

Maybe its an old rendering?, It looks at bit strange to me...

On the architects website there are a lot of renderings and drawings.:
http://www.utzon-arkitekter.dk/p_wtc/a.php

I don't think so. The renderings on the Utzon website is how the project have looked since it first was presentated last year.

Why should Sjælsø Gruppen put a rendering there is more than a year old in to a brand new half year report?

As the text say, they are still working with the project final design. The picture is the redering so far.

I see it clealy as that the original design have been changed to this (which is not final, but still a working sketch in progress). I see it as a clearly improvement - both in the architecture, and even the height (the new renderings is much taller, I counted 26-27 stores, in the old renderings there is 20-22 stores, also it seems much taller than Ferring which seems quite small next to the rendering).

^^ Thank you!! What a relief. That Utzon-project was really terrible. This one is much much nicer, and I really like the arch - and what a span that arch has!!

However, while it seems they might have abandoned the Kim Utzon design, it does say that this is a temporary illustration. So I am not going to get my hopes up too high, and I certainly don't think it is going to become (much) taller than Ferring - I think the height issue is a matter of perspective in the rendering.

But they really needed to abandon that awful Utzon-design if they want to compete with the Liebeskind development.

Urbanus; I hope you are right and I´m wrong because I don´t like the Utzon design either!
I just meant that It was strange that there are so many details about it on the architects website if the design is dead! But lets hope...
The Utzon project looks like some brutalism from the seventies.... :bash:

This new design is defidentally better than Utzons design... but... It's still not "wowing" me... maybe i'm being too picky. I just think we have enough square/rectangular-shaped buildings in Copenhagen. Why can't we start seeing more curves? :(

This new design is defidentally better than Utzons design... but... It's still not "wowing" me... maybe i'm being too picky. I just think we have enough square/rectangular-shaped buildings in Copenhagen. Why can't we start seeing more curves? :(
That is what the Liebeskind plan is all about. I posted som links further up in the thread.

BTW I guess you are all watching (another:D) skyscraper theme night on DR2...

The outlines of Steven Holl's residential for Ørestad South have been revealed. 5 T-shaped houses are going to be built. And those are upright 'T's! I think it looks very interesting. Check it out here: http://politiken.dk/kultur/article172092.ece

Great find. I saw it myself and was just about to post.

They look VERY interesting and I like the whole idea about the project.

There will be 5 11-floor "towers" which are shaped as Ts.

Peter K

I think the T-houses (T-huse) look really nice...to bad they aren't a bit higher...in berlingske tidende today there is some articles about the project and Steven Holl(I can post a pic of the articles if anybody is interested?)

Looks strange IMO.. but.. in a good way.. sort of..

I don't know.. I'm confused.. I need to see some more renderings..

http://politiken.dk/archive/00149/kultpix_12-09-2006__149685c.jpg
Hmm... well... it's okay I guess... it'll stand out and be a few floors higher than normal so that's good I guess... hmmm

Denmark's largest hotel is going to be built on the north-western corner of the Liebeskind-site. Liebeskind himself is going to draw the hotel with 700 rooms, and CABINN are going to operate it.

Sounds good!

What is your source?

Peter K

Sorry :) here you go:

http://www.ncc.dk/templates/GenericPage____7335.aspx?T=TOPNAV
http://www.bygnet.dk/bygnet/go;jsessionid=88B2D94A3D255F2BE634412013E0E443?action=302&id=8352&leftRows=10&leftCount=7813&leftFirstRow=1&groupId=301

http://wpy.observer.se/wpyfs/00/00/00/00/00/08/59/C1/CABINN%20Orestad_Hotel.jpg

CABINN’s kommende hotel i Ørestad City bliver det største hotel i Danmark til dato. Med 700 værelser kan hotellet både betjene messedeltagere til Bella Center, golfturister til Royal Golf Center, gæster til Københavns Universitet samt naturligvis almindelige forretningsrejsende og turister.

Hotellet, der efter planen skal åbne i 2008, bliver CABINN-kædens fjerde hotel i København.
http://www.ncc.dk/templates/GenericPage____7335.aspx?T=TOPNAV


Ready by 2008 :lol:

Othervice great news... although I'm not to fond of Cabinn....

2008 would certainly be impressive :nuts: :drunk:

The hotel doesn't look that large in the picture

The hotel doesn't look that large in the picture

That was also my first reaction!

There is no doubt that the hotel will be larger than on that model.

I look forward to seeing the design - I guess that we will see it pretty soon.

Peter K

There is no doubt that the hotel will be larger than on that model.
I'm not too sure about that. The guy made the masterplan himself, so he ought to be the first person to follow the plan. Also, I think the masterplan is made within certain restrictions on square meters etc., so you can't just enlarge one building without reducing the volume of others. If you see the plan, it actually allows for 15 floors, so I guess the hotel looks small because hotel floors are usually lower than office or residential floors - and because everything else in Ørestad is on a big scale.

We'll know more when the design is out, and as you say, that will probably soon. It better be or they won't be able to open the hotel in 2008.. :D

^^And a new local plan takes atleast a year to get, so I doubt they will go outside that....

A bunch of new plans for Orestad south has just been revealed.
A couple of highrises around 15 floors are included in the plans.
Especially Bjarke Ingels "Det vredne tårn" - The twisted tower, looks interesting, almost a miniature TT. Here is the link: http://www.orestad.dk/index/privat/nyhedsbrev/orestad_syd_karreplaner.htm

wow really nice new...really looking forward to see how the "ørestad syd" is developing!

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/682/eschertower23pi.jpg


With a few more twisters Øresund could become the City of the Twisting Scyscrapers :)

That BIG projekt is looking cool. I try to draw it but find it impossible.

Short animation of "Stævnen" ( residential )

http://www.orestadsyd.dk/syd-flash.htm

Nice find!

Stævnen looks decent, but not that impressive.

The location is marvellous!

P

I went by Orestad this afternoon and it really starts to look impressive.

There is a big board up now by the Libeskind plot and it looked very interesting.

P

very nice video, i love the super perimetral planning and the height is nice too, the architecture is So-so.

Take a look at this guys. There is no doubt that the Bella Center Hotel will be built.

http://www2.kk.dk/of/beslut.nsf/ee3581d21beab29bc12570ee002f8aee/2644e9c7e5820b36c1257245003c7bbf?OpenDocument

Merry Christmas!

^^
Now that's finally some great news!...Wee...:banana:

Here are a few lousy shots I took a week ago:

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c278/torontocopenhagen/HPIM0710.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c278/torontocopenhagen/HPIM0708.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c278/torontocopenhagen/HPIM0717.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c278/torontocopenhagen/HPIM0712.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c278/torontocopenhagen/HPIM0713.jpg

The Libeskind site:

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c278/torontocopenhagen/HPIM0722.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c278/torontocopenhagen/HPIM0724.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c278/torontocopenhagen/HPIM0723.jpg

What is that blue building in the baggraund?

Take a look at this guys. There is no doubt that the Bella Center Hotel will be built.

http://www2.kk.dk/of/beslut.nsf/ee3581d21beab29bc12570ee002f8aee/2644e9c7e5820b36c1257245003c7bbf?OpenDocument

Merry Christmas!

Great news, but where the hell did you find that? Ive been trying to find it there since wedensday evening...

Anywho, good news, even if they did not get everything they came for. The permit for the bigger multiarena up til 40 meters was put on hold, even though I thought the parking situation seamed pretty good after what they wrote in the initial papers...

Hopefully they can quickly make some plan to put that right and quickly get a permit in the new year. I just dont like it, if they finaly have found some investors or will find them and then the permit isnt ready...

The politicians have known all along what they wanted to build, now stop draging your feet...Its almost as if, despite what most of them say, that they simply dont understand how importent this is, and how importent it is that we move quickly, especially since Malmø is already starting to build theirs and therefore risk making deals with artists and int. eventmakers while we are still just standing around talking about parking...

Actually the more I read it, the less it makes sence to me. Bella Centeret say they meet the number of required parkingspots no problem (1 spot pr 100 m2 commercial space), the Teknik- og Miljøforvaltning recomends it but the teknikudvalg says there is a parking problem??? WTF? What problem?

What is that blue building in the baggraund?
Actually it's two buildings you see in the background. The Ferring Tower to the right, and the (future) Fields Tower to the left.
The Fields Tower seems to end up as the tallest of them.

^^
Don't think the Fields Tower is taller...it's becaus it's closer to the Liebeskind site;)

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c278/torontocopenhagen/HPIM0723.jpg He he... I'd love to see this view become real! :lol:


Great post btw!

^^
Don't think the Fields Tower is taller...it's becaus it's closer to the Liebeskind site;)
I have to disagree with you here. ;)
This is not a perspective rendering, but a "section" (In danish: "Snit").
You rarely include perspective depth in a sectional view, so usually the heights would be comparable.
Also, if it was the way you say, then both Fields and Ferring should have been drawn lover than the two Liebeskind towers in front of them.

Time for a photo update on the construction site's in Ørestad City:


"Det Flexible Hus" and "Ørestadhuset" both topped out by now:
http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/6468/1orestadcityfeb07xow3.jpg

Along with "Horisonten" (to the left):
http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/7915/2orestadcityfeb07xxi7.jpg


http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/78/3orestadcityfeb07xbn5.jpg

The only 12 floor project around the Ørestad Park that hasn't topped out yet is "Sejlhuset", seen here between "Cityhusene" and "CPH Golfpark":
http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/3116/4orestadcityfeb07xnp0.jpg

http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/2285/5orestadcityfeb07xhg0.jpg

The second stage of "CPH Golfpark" called "Sunset":
http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/7528/6orestadcityfeb07xgq6.jpg

Soon a new officebuilding will rise on this corner site next to "Signalhuset":
http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/3976/7orestadcityfeb07xip6.jpg

The second KLP officebuilding is getting above ground:
http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/7355/8orestadcityfeb07xmv6.jpg

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/2324/9orestadcityfeb07xwp5.jpg

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/2040/10orestadcityfeb07xre5.jpg

The Highschool. Still working on the facade, which they have been doing for quite a long time now:
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/9469/11orestadcityfeb07xcl3.jpg

The north side of the Park again:
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/2958/12orestadcityfeb07xcr9.jpg

And the south side:
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/2695/13orestadcityfeb07xul6.jpg

And "Bjerget" is getting above ground. It will be interesting to see this one completed:
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/4296/bjergetfeb07xpm0.jpg

That all for now... :)

Not bad...thanks for sharing...it's not that part of town I visited the most, so it's always nice to see what's going on out there!

Awesome :) Ørestad is really commin along nicely

Great photos/tour tournesol :cheers2:

Thank you for the update Tournesol:okay:

I don't really know how I feel about all this. Specially the big "park" in the middle of all the new residentials, feels somehow wrong, but maybe that's just because it's still a big construction site. I walked through it a few weeks ago, and I must admit I felt a bit like I was walking in some 60s-70s suburb, just with new buildings. I sure hope they plan to make a lot of small lakes, and plant many trees and flowers in the park, cause otherwise it will never really feel like a city. They should go for something like a "Central Park'ish" look in my opinion, insted of the current "Gellerup Parken" look it currently feels like. Just my opinion of course..

Thank you for the update Tournesol:okay:

I don't really know how I feel about all this. Specially the big "park" in the middle of all the new residentials, feels somehow wrong, but maybe that's just because it's still a big construction site. I walked through it a few weeks ago, and I must admit I felt a bit like I was walking in some 60s-70s suburb, just with new buildings. I sure hope they plan to make a lot of small lakes, and plant many trees and flowers in the park, cause otherwise it will never really feel like a city. They should go for something like a "Central Park'ish" look in my opinion, insted of the current "Gellerup Parken" look it currently feels like. Just my opinion of course..

You're right! It doesn't feel much urban when you walk through that park. I still can't understand why the park is there at all - Ørestad is placed right next to the biggest green area in the Copenhagen region!!
The Ørestad should be as dense as possible if they want to make something urban out of it - now it still looks and feels too suburban. Unfortunately!!!

^^I was thinking that same thing as you guys. It mostly looks like a modern "getto"....All the building are new and a bit taller, but other then that it still feels the same...

It's a damn pity - as the Ørestad is one of the biggest and most exciting development areas in the region. With great opportunities for great architecture!! Ørestadsselskabet have talked and talked about how it should be anything but suburban -with live, urbanity etc. - but what they're doing seems to be the oppostit.

I think they should learn something from other develotment areas like London Dockland, La defense, Zuidas etc. with high density, lots of high rises (of course) and public spaces with urbanity and live.

You have to have a really really high density to create a urban area such a long way from the traditionel city center. Otherwise you'll get another Høje Tåstrup...

I partially agree with you guys. They should have made cafés and snackbars in the lowest floors of the buildings that face the park.

Be that as it may, we must not forget that the heart of Ørestad hasn't been built yet.

When the Liebeskind site (where the big Fields parking lot is) has been fully developed I will give my full evaluation.

Cheers,

P

Great pics Tournesol!

Great pix indeed ;-)

Take a look at this guys. There is no doubt that the Bella Center Hotel will be built.

http://www2.kk.dk/of/beslut.nsf/ee3581d21beab29bc12570ee002f8aee/2644e9c7e5820b36c1257245003c7bbf?OpenDocument

Merry Christmas!

Not so fast cowboy. Bella Center said in a press release today, that the hotel project is officially on hold. A decision was to be made this week, but now a construction start/date is unsure.

It is apparently the new, and much critisised, government proposed tax laws, that may have an influence on the project and is making the congresshall opperator step on the brakes. This could mean that the hotel will not be ready in time for the IOC conference in 2009...

http://www.bellacenter.dk/Bella+Center/Presse/Nyheder/ca40/newsid/18799

^ Great, just great... who needs tall buildings anyway... let's all live in foxholes and eat leafs... yum! :(

Vi har ikke opgivet vort hotel

"Indtil vi ser det endelig udspil fra regeringen, er vi nødt til at stoppe op," siger adm. direktør Arne Bang Mikkelsen fra Bella Center om det ny hotelbyggeri.

Det store hotelbyggeri ved Bella Center, hvor kontrakterne skulle have været underskrevet i denne uge, er sat på vågeblus på grund af regeringens nye skatteudspil. I lighed med flere andre store projekter. For Bella Center vil det samme gælde for planerne om en multihal.

"Vi skulle i denne uge have underskrevet kontrakterne om starten af byggeriet lige efter sommerferien. Det er nødvendigt på grund af levering af byggemateriale. Nu må vi vente. Ærgerligt, men jeg håber sandelig ikke, at løbet er kørt. Vi har endnu en lille tidsfrist at løbe på, men nu gælder det uger, og ikke måneder," sådan siger adm . direktør Arne Bang Mikkelsen til Take Off, efter beslutningen om at vente på grund af regeringens nye skatteregler.

"Hvis vi kun kan fratrække renterne op til 10 mio. kroner på en sådan investering, hænger det simpelthen ikke sammen. Vi har budgetteret med et driftsunderskud de første år. Vis mig et hotelprojekt i Danmark, som straks giver overskud. Jeg håber vi har en afklaring inden for et par uger, " fortsætter han.

Hotellets første fase med 400 værelse, skal være færdig til olympisk komites møde i august 2009 i Bella Center. Det er en del af aftalen.

http://www.takeoff.dk/news.cfm?nNewsWeekly=0&nNewsId=10424

So sorry cowgirl...

But according to the state of things 2 MONTHS ago it appeared that it would be built...

So sorry cowgirl...

But according to the state of things 2 MONTHS ago it appeared that it would be built...

Yeah, I know...

Lets hope they get things resolved soon. If we dont get the hotel up for the IOC congress, it will be a huge embaresment, since they basicly promised it to IOC in their bid...

There is a new "Statusnotat" from Ørestad about the projects and construction. http://www.orestad.dk/index/erhverv/status.htm

Several new projects I haven't heard of apear. It is nice to see there still is happening a lot there - even though the Bella Center is on hold at the moment.

There is also some news about the Cab Inn-hotel designed by Liebeskind.

http://www.business.dk/brancher/detail/artikel:aid=2027496

15 floors!! Not bad. Looking forward to see the design!!!

I partially agree with you guys. They should have made cafés and snackbars in the lowest floors of the buildings that face the park.


Well, you know how it is in Copenhagen, whenever you come across a suitable site for a sidewalk café, you'll find it occupied by a bank, an estate agent or an undertaker. Or just a wall. Actually, the south-facing north side of the park must be a very sunny place, which is a trivial fact that did not seem to bother neither the planners, nor the architechts.

regards,
Kristoffer Mogensen

I agree (yeah, that's so easy to say). Personally, the more I see completed of the Ørestad, the less excited I am about it. Sure it might be nice, modern architecture, but I don't find it appealing at all. The life is missing. And it doesn't even have a decent skyline (yet?).

I hope they won't make the same mistake once they start developing the Carlsberg site

Well, you know how it is in Copenhagen, whenever you come across a suitable site for a sidewalk café, you'll find it occupied by a bank, an estate agent or an undertaker. Or just a wall. Actually, the south-facing north side of the park must be a very sunny place, which is a trivial fact that did not seem to bother neither the planners, nor the architechts.

regards,
Kristoffer Mogensen

The lower floors on some of the building sorrounding the park are supoosed to conain kiosks and cafés, but maybe they just haven sold any yet.

Maybe when more people move out there, they´ll start popping up

I think we need to be a bit patient. During 2007 around 1000 more flats will be finished around the park. There are planned to be cafes in Parkhusene, Sejlhuset and inside the park and I know they are working on a plan for a new design of the park. I think that next spring life will have come to Ørestad.

/\ Let's hope so :)

Welcome to the forum BTW! :cheers2:

I think we need to be a bit patient. During 2007 around 1000 more flats will be finished around the park. There are planned to be cafes in Parkhusene, Sejlhuset and inside the park and I know they are working on a plan for a new design of the park. I think that next spring life will have come to Ørestad.

Agree - I remember seeing some renderings (somewhere) for the park in Ø-City.. A bit like "Torvehallerne" on Israels Plads.

mlm:
insted of the current "Gellerup Parken" look it currently feels like. Just my opinion of course..

Ahh - that's a scary comparison. I don't think it will turn out that bad.. first of all Ø-City will become much more dence than Gellerup. And the architecture is varied from block to block opposite the "ghetto" in Århus..

It is apparently the new, and much critisised, government proposed tax laws, that may have an influence on the project and is making the congresshall opperator step on the brakes. This could mean that the hotel will not be ready in time for the IOC conference in 2009...

Typical..The most beautiful project in Copenhagen for years - ON HOLD - :bash: From now on I'll call everything taller than 15 floors "A Vision" until the last floor is finished.
Actually "metropolis" is a good example. The height was lowered some 20 m in the last minute because of the nearby B&W chimney...

^^Yep. It sucks....But for once, it was not the nimby's that "killed" the project, if indeed it is dead...I hope not. But lets hope it will happen. They said that they might know something in a few weeks....

Typical..The most beautiful project in Copenhagen for years - ON HOLD - :bash: From now on I'll call everything taller than 15 floors "A Vision" until the last floor is finished.
Actually "metropolis" is a good example. The height was lowered some 20 m in the last minute because of the nearby B&W chimney...

Very goddam typical. Also it seems very likely that the Tivoli Hotel will not be approved. There seems to be majority against it at the City hall. Venstre have already announced they're against. I'm tired of that party - they are against almost all development and projects in Copenhagen - unless there is a bribe involved ofcourse...

Ahh - that's a scary comparison. I don't think it will turn out that bad.. first of all Ø-City will become much more dence than Gellerup. And the architecture is varied from block to block opposite the "ghetto" in Århus..Okay okay, of course it's not Gjellerup Parken (not even close), but I'm sure you know what I mean... Big blocks with "empty" green areas between them. But hopefully it'll be a lot better when things get more developed out there. Finally though, I'm not so sure it'll be "much more dense" than Gjellerup, which is actually quite dense, with the almost endless big concrete blocks. I know, since that's the view I woke up to every day, the 2 years I lived there;)

Anyway, I cross my fingers and hope Ørestaden will turn out vibrant, lively and urban in the end. :)

Interesting slideshow from Berlingske.dk:

http://www.berlingske.dk/upload/webred/FLASH/2007/story3/

^^It's in danish...

I think we will have the bella towers in Ørestad after all:

Hoteltårne i Ørestad
I den nærmeste fremtid vil Ørestad få et nyt vartegn i form af to hotel- og kongrescentertårne kaldet Bella Hotels. Bella Center står for opførelsen og driften i nær samarbejde med en endnu ukendt international hotelkæde. Arkitektfirmaet 3xNielsen står bag byggeriet, der vil rumme Nordens største hotel med 800 værelser samt et kongrescenter. Tårnene er på hver 75 meter, og fra 23. etage kan man komme til at nyde udsigten fra hotellets restaurant og skybar. Byggeriet vil blive opført i to etaper med planlagt start til sommer og forventet indvielse af det ene tårn i 2009.

Børsen 22/03/2007

Sweet! :happy:

Strictly speaking they dont mention something new. Did it say anything more, or write if the decision had been made? It seams odd that they would decide it now, since the tax rules areant ready yet. Are you sure its not just an old article...?

Wow, 2x75 m! And going to start construction this summer, that's fast! Do we have any renders?

^^There are renders somewhere here. The project has been covered...Try and do a search for bella center and mayby youll find it...Its in the copenhagen thread or the ørestad thread...

/\ It's where it rightfully belongs, in the "All new Danish Highrises part II" thread. ;)

Strictly speaking they dont mention something new. Did it say anything more, or write if the decision had been made? It seams odd that they would decide it now, since the tax rules areant ready yet. Are you sure its not just an old article...?

I found it on ørestadsselskabets and dgi homepages. Both homepages refers to an article from børsen the 22nd of March.

http://www.orestadsselskabet.dk/oss-presse-news?NewsItemID=2813
http://www.dgi.dk/artikel.aspx?aid=8666

I haven't been able to find the original article from Børsen but since it has been refered to from to organizations it must have been printed.

I think the plan has been to build it all the time and that they have tried to influence the new tax rules by threatening with stopping their project. Together with all the other threats from companies like Maersk they have succeeded and the new law will be changed.

It was from a longer article in Børsen Ejendomme thursday (by the way Børsen Ejendomme can be recommended - every thursday, with lots of construction news).

The article had a lot about the hotel, architects etc. - but nothing new, just a lot more of what we know. The issue about the taxlaw wasn't mentioned with a single word.
So nothing new there... But the facts that they choose to bring such an article now, and that the contruction date and finishing date still the same (from summer 2007 to summer 2009) is in my opinion a good sign, and that doesn't seem like the project is as much on hold that they earlier have claimed. But then again, thet might judt have been a try to put a pressure on the politicians...

^^My problem with it is that Bella Centeret has not mentioned anything in a press release or on their website. An I imagen that they would be the first to know, if the project was back on go. They are a public company. Thats why I dont believe the storry. I simply think Børsen Ejendomme (recomended as Urbanius said) mentioned the story because the did a special on hotels, and because everyone expect this to happen either way, simply because of the great need, and the promise to IOC. But I still think it on hold now and I doubt it will get the go ahead untill Bella Centeret can figgure out what the new tax law will be. And right now the government is negotiation. Hopefully we will see some news this week...

But as I said, I simply think they mentioned it in Børsen because everyone thinks it will happen, but that at the moment it is still on hold...

I hope they say something soon. But this is a newspaper article, not stright from belle canteret as far as I can see....

I concur with cphdude (Vordingborgdude?) on this one. I saw the same article last week but since there was no supporting evidence for any new developments in the case I imagined it was just a Børsen feature most likely researched before the developments with the corporate tax reform. These features are often a long time in the making as the content is deemed to not be of the same dynamically changing nature as proper news stories are.

I concur with cphdude (Vordingborgdude?) on this one. I saw the same article last week but since there was no supporting evidence for any new developments in the case I imagined it was just a Børsen feature most likely researched before the developments with the corporate tax reform. These features are often a long time in the making as the content is deemed to not be of the same dynamically changing nature as proper news stories are.

Exactly.


Oh, and lets just stick with CPHdude for now. It sounds better and you never know when I might return...

But as I said, I simply think they mentioned it in Børsen because everyone thinks it will happen, but that at the moment it is still on hold...

I hope they say something soon. But this is a newspaper article, not stright from belle canteret as far as I can see....

From Take Off - Daily:

bella center klar til hotelbyggeri
Med den nye reviderede skattepakke er grundlaget skabt for et startskud til hotelbyggeri ved bella center. - Første etape på 400 værelser skal være færdig i sensommeren 2009.
"Giv mig arbejdskraft og noget beton, så vi kan komme i gang." Det var adm. direktør Arne Bang Mikkelsens svar på en mobiltelefon fra udlandet til Take Off, da han var foreløbig orienteret om regeringens nye skattepakke, der giver noget bedre afskrivningsregler og fradrag for renteudgifter end i det oprindelige forslag, som helt kunne have stoppet hotelbyggeriet ved bella center.

"Vi skulle faktisk have bestilt byggemateriale allerede i marts, men nogle henvendelser viser, at vi måske kan nå det alligevel. Den entreprenør som får opgaven må så også skaffe den nødvendige arbejdskraft til byggeriet.

Første etape af projektet med to tårne og to gange 400 værelser skal være færdig i sensommeren om to år og tages i brug oktober 2009, når vi skal afvikle det store olympiske IOC-møde i København," slutter han.

http://www.takeoff.dk/news.cfm?nNewsWeekly=0&nNewsId=11050&search_articles1=bella%20center

:banana:

^^Oh, thank god...That is extremly good news...

Now lets just hope they can make it in time for the IOC congress as they have promised. That would be really bad it they did not.

^^ Finally, some encouraing news about highrises in Copenhagen... :banana:

So, 23s with 400 rooms. that's about 20 on each floor. Not a huge blob, so it'll be two towers :D

So they are one or two months behind schedule. Big deal. Good to hear that the project is on track again it looks great.

Defidentally good news! :applause:

Good news that things are back on track. Start diggin' :)

New renderings from NCC "Ørestad Down Town"

Amazing...

http://www.ncc.dk/templates/GenericPage____9648.aspx?epslanguage=EN

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/5053/04242007123149ni9.jpg

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/5279/04242007123206wv8.jpg

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/7246/04242007123222cs5.jpg
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/6624/04242007123323ao9.jpg

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/7770/04242007124224re4.jpg

Defidentally looks cool. But still saddens me that it HAS to be so short :( Oh well... better with a short-highrise than no highrise at all :)

Nice! I love those towers! But they shiuld build them taller! :D

Looks pretty sweet, but isn't this realy far from the city center to try to be a lively downtown-style area?
/as always, I'd go for maybe doubble the density to create more life in the area.

Looks pretty sweet, but isn't this realy far from the city center to try to be a lively downtown-style area?

You've hit the nail on the head I think in designating the one criterion that above all else will point to the success or failure of the Ørestad 'New Town' development.

The location has the following factors going for it:

The metro takes you to the old commercial centre of Copenhagen in 10 minutes
The mainline train service takes you to the airport in 6 minutes, to Sweden's 2nd largest city in half an hour and to Copenhagen Central station in 7 minutes.
The mainline train service has a new departure every 10 minutes, the metro has one every 4 minutes
The area is located next to the highway that connects Copenhagen with Sweden, Funen and Jutland
Scandinavia's largest shopping mall is located 10 metres from the station
Copenhagen's largest hotel will be built as part of the Ørestad City development
Scandinavia's largest exposition and conference centre is located one metro stop (1 minute) away with 1.300 annual events
Three new primary schools will be built in the next 10 years and 1 high school has already been built in the area. Three university institutions and the national broadcaster have located themselves in the area.

As you can see many factors have been put in place to facilitate the 'blossoming' of the area as a second urban centre in Copenhagen. Personally, I think the key indicator will be whether they manage to creative a virtuous circle of companies moving their headquarters out there, since the daily commute is often what makes people think 'I should be living here rather than spending 35 minutes travellling each way.'

Attracting companies to settle in Ørestad has been a longer process: The pharmaceutical company Ferring was the earliest success, supplemented much later by the norwegian commercial property developer KLP and the Field's initiative. The most recent announcement comes from the Consultancy and Engineering company Rambøll, which has chosen to relocate there.

I think the jury is still out on whether Ørestad is succeeding in attracting the necessary corporate hq's to ensure further positive development and in the end it will be the success or failure of such initiatives as Nordkranen, Copenhagen Towers and Ørestad downtown that decide it. Of course the overall context of broader economic trends will also play a significant part in setting the pace of the development.

The mainline train service takes you to the airport in 6 minutes, to Sweden's 2nd largest city in half an hour and to Copenhagen Central station in 7 minutes.

That's fucking fantastic! Copenhagen here we come! :lol:

^We just strap some rockets to the MagLev and presto CPH -Gothenburg 30min :D

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/5053/04242007123149ni9.jpgOh snap - that looks pretty damn good! :happy:

Any idea about when it will be done?

^We just strap some rockets to the MagLev and presto CPH -Gothenburg 30min :D


That would be really cool! Imagine being in CPH in the morning Oslo in the afternoon and Stockholm in the night in just one day! :D

Looks very good indeed. Might be the thing that will keep Ørestad above water in the coming years. Currently there are too many overrated apartment blocks out there and one big mall.

As always, sweet but short.....Give me some scrapers damnit...

I like the design of those curved towers. Very neat!

As always, sweet but short.....Give me some scrapers damnit...

I agree...
But the height restriction from the airport makes it so impossible:bash:

I'm not too sure about the towers. I mean I like unique designs and all, but this seems kind of weird without any real reason for it. But the overall design of the area looks good and fairly dynamic.

Btw, it may be that I've missed something but hasn't it been a long time since we saw a photo update from Örestad? I haven't been there in a long time, and without the possibility to go there I'm quite curious as to how it has developed.

Nice find EDK!

This project is my favourite project in Cph/Ørestaden. Does anyone else see the similarity between this:

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/7770/04242007124224re4.jpg

And one of my other favourite projects, the Bella Center hotel, that is going to be built maybe 1 km. away?:

http://www.mikaellykmadsen.dk/skyscrapercity/denmark/bella1.jpg

http://www.mikaellykmadsen.dk/skyscrapercity/denmark/bella2.jpg

1km is WAY too far IMO... it should be built 20m away! Together with a bunch of other unique towers! If we cant get a cluster of 200m+ towers atleast give us a cluster of 80m+ towers! Don't spread them out like that!!

that looks pretty damn nice!

^We just strap some rockets to the MagLev and presto CPH -Gothenburg 30min :D
Oh snap - that looks pretty damn good! :happy:

Any idea about when it will be done?
Thanks for considering the arguments in my post and using them as the basis for a thoughtful discussion on the viability of Ørestaden as a second city centre.

I'll probably have to come to terms with the fact that skyscrapercity S&B is not a forum for the discussion of urban planning and the high rise form as I initially thought but rather an urban photo appreciation forum where people respond to photo posts with such profound one-liner observations as "OMG it f**cking rocks" or "Damn those nimbys!"

Does anyone else see the similarity between this:

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/7770/04242007124224re4.jpg

And one of my other favourite projects, the Bella Center hotel, that is going to be built maybe 1 km. away?
If I'm not mistaken, the Bella Center material is a semi-detailed rendering of an actual project that is going to form the basis of actual construction drawings whereas the material on Ørestad Down Town is simply a master plan painting the broad strokes, where each individual parcel will be subject to specific architectural treatment, which may very well lead to a final design looking very different from the mockup inserted by Liebeskind?

As I understand the Ørestad Down Town master plan all you can deduce from it regarding the two towers is:
- It has to be two towers
- They should be around 85 metres high
- The form should be organic and not boxy
- They should be situated "there"
- They will be used for offices and commercial space

Whereas the Bella Center proposal is much closer to what will actually be built.

I agree...
But the height restriction from the airport makes it so impossible:bash:

But those restrictions are stupid and unsessesary...They dont have them In London at the City Airport....Its not as bussy as CPH, but a plane is a plane, right?

They dont have them In London at the City Airport....Its not as bussy as CPH, but a plane is a plane, right?
LCY is STOL only unless they expanded it since I last flew out of there.

EDIT: Just checked the Wiki and it seems to still be the case. I additionally found the following quotes, which seem to be of significance to the discussion:
Placing a commercial airport into congested airspace (the London Terminal Movements Area (TMA)) was a challenge for the National Air Traffic Service (NATS). In the event, a new airspace authority, Thames Radar, was established to provide a radar control service and provide safe separations for London City arrivals and departures.

The airport has been extended in three stages. The runway was lengthened and the angle of glideslopes was reduced from 7.5 to 5.5 degrees, still steep for a European airport. The western apron was enlarged and a turning loop built in 2003 at the eastern end of the runway. (...) On the other hand the airport flight path restricts the maximum height of new skyscrapers in and around Canary Wharf, and the management keeps a close watch on planning applications for tall buildings in the area.

If I'm not mistaken, the Bella Center material is a semi-detailed rendering of an actual project that is going to form the basis of actual construction drawings whereas the material on Ørestad Down Town is simply a master plan painting the broad strokes, where each individual parcel will be subject to specific architectural treatment, which may very well lead to a final design looking very different from the mockup inserted by Liebeskind?
I realise they are at different stages of development. But in the masterplan they look pretty detailed, and Liebeskind has already said he would like to do the design for the (I won't call them skyscrapers!) two tall buildings, so they might not end up looking much different from the rendering. But I really do hope they get another cladding!!!

Thanks for considering the arguments in my post and using them as the basis for a thoughtful discussion on the viability of Ørestaden as a second city centre.

I'll probably have to come to terms with the fact that skyscrapercity S&B is not a forum for the discussion of urban planning and the high rise form as I initially thought but rather an urban photo appreciation forum where people respond to photo posts with such profound one-liner observations as "OMG it f**cking rocks" or "Damn those nimbys!"
Chill man! There's room for everyone here. At least he's not wasting time and space putting down other people's way of debating. Apart from that, welcome to the forums Knilaus!

P.S. Damn those nimbys! :banana:

Chill man! There's room for everyone here. At least he's not wasting time and space putting down other people's way of debating. Apart from that, welcome to the forums Knilaus!
I'm not intending to put anyone's debating style down rather I'm reflecting over my observations that every time I try to stimulate a broader, more reflective debate the thread or post gets drowned out by photos, renderings and one-liner replies, which leads me to my conclusion that this is mostly a forum for the appreciation of urban photography.

Does anyone know of forums where city planning is discussed preferably in the context of Copenhagen? I think I'll be relegating this forum to my feed reader.

Does anyone know of forums where city planning is discussed preferably in the context of Copenhagen? I think I'll be relegating this forum to my feed reader.

Well, this is the best one I know, and that you also can disguss other Scandinavian cities here, and in the other SSC-forums also a lot of other aspects of high rises, urban planning, architecture, urban development, urban transport etc. makes it in my opinion quite unik and good.
The fact that is also a good forum for exchancing urban photographies is fine with me - I don't participate in that debates much, but what others do, is their business. They have their interest, I have mine. And I still find plenty of room to disguss urban planning matters as well as all the other things I mentioned, which all have my interest, here!

Thanks for considering the arguments in my post and using them as the basis for a thoughtful discussion on the viability of Ørestaden as a second city centre.;)
As an ousider, I think Örestaden being a new urban center in the region would be great, but I don't really see that happening within the near future. The basic infrastructure is there, but it still needsway better connections to become a center. Travel-times from the pre-existing urban centers aren't what makes a new center, travel-times (and ease of travel) from the non-center areas matter more IMO. Copenhagen is far to radial in it's transit (just like Sthlm) for a new urban core to pop up fast. It'll need new transit options - and of course good planning at the new center; no strip-mall or BigBox stores, urban feel, high density of offices, housing & shops.

I'll probably have to come to terms with the fact that skyscrapercity S&B is not a forum for the discussion of urban planning and the high rise form as I initially thought but rather an urban photo appreciation forum where people respond to photo posts with such profound one-liner observations as "OMG it f**cking rocks" or "Damn those nimbys!"SSC can be a bit immature at times, granted, but don't give up. Intelligent debate among forumers attract new people interested in the same. I remember when I was the only Scandinavian on the forums, but more started coming and we started talking 'bout Scandi stuff... now, there's a whole S&B section.

;)
As an ousider, I think Örestaden being a new urban center in the region would be great, but I don't really see that happening within the near future. The basic infrastructure is there, but it still needsway better connections to become a center. Travel-times from the pre-existing urban centers aren't what makes a new center, travel-times (and ease of travel) from the non-center areas matter more IMO. Copenhagen is far to radial in it's transit (just like Sthlm) for a new urban core to pop up fast. It'll need new transit options - and of course good planning at the new center; no strip-mall or BigBox stores, urban feel, high density of offices, housing & shops.


It could have happen, but now DSB have closed the rail-line from Roskilde til the Airport through Ørestad which gave another direct connection from the outskirt-areas to Ørestad. Now there is two connection (Metro and regional/Øresuns-railways), but both are to the citycenter, and they don't connect many residential areas at their way - the metro connects some, but the regional railway connects almost none, and therefor the Ørestad chances of making it a new citycenter is rather small.
It could have been the natural center for the blooming southern urban areas like Sydhavn, Sluseholmen, Islands Brygge etc., but they all connects mostly towards the old city, as well as the rest of Amager (outside the metrolines) and the southern and western suburbs (a long Køge Bugt and the Høje Tåstrup main railway line). And I agree when it only connects to the old center, then it will be hard to create a new center since the old center is too strong and will attract all citylife. And it's also a problem that Ørestad and the areas aound it is not dense enough at all!!

@ Blueviking: I see the resemblance between those towers! BTW, very nice! Will they be symetrical to the centergade?

Just stumbled over some Ørestad pics from last summer I forgot to post...

Oh well - better later then never right? :)

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/4343/orestadbx3.jpg

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/3465/orestad2bh6.jpg

Nice! Thanks for the pics!

There are fewer cranes and more "blocks" out there now. I haven't been out to take photos though...

i'm gonna go out there hopefully tomorrow if i find the time and take some photos. :)

i'm gonna go out there hopefully tomorrow if i find the time and take some photos. :)

:bow: :cheers:

Hope you'll find the time. It's been a while since the last update. And pic. from the cranes in Ørestaden are hard to find...

I'll like to see pic from the second KLP office building and VM-Bjerget Please...:)

@DLL: Awesome i am looking foward to seeing them! :D

Just stumbled over some Ørestad pics from last summer I forgot to post...

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/3465/orestad2bh6.jpg

I guess i might as well just start off with the photo i took from the same spot :)

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/orestad07-1/43.jpg

Seems like quite a bit has popped up already :)

I'm in the progress of uploading the photos right now so they'll most likely come in next post.

Boing...looking good...:)...keep'em coming DLL

Alright.

So i went out last evening and quickly browsed around the southern part of Ørestad. (I didnt have time for the northern part, that i might do a lil later on).

Anyway...

Here we go. I apologize i'm terrible when it comes to names or discriptions... hope I'm forgiven. :)

1.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/orestad07-1/01.jpg

2. Not sure what this is but it doesn't seem to be anything interesting...
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/orestad07-1/02.jpg

3. Signalhuset
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/orestad07-1/03.jpg

4.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/orestad07-1/04.jpg

5.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/orestad07-1/05.jpg

6.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/orestad07-1/06.jpg

7. Fields :rock:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/orestad07-1/07.jpg

8.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/orestad07-1/08.jpg

9. Artsy...
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/orestad07-1/09.jpg

10.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/orestad07-1/10.jpg

11. Sorry for the crappy pano, but it's the best i could get it.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/orestad07-1/11.jpg

12.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/orestad07-1/12.jpg

13.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/orestad07-1/13.jpg

14.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/orestad07-1/14.jpg

15.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/orestad07-1/15.jpg

16.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/orestad07-1/16.jpg

17.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/orestad07-1/17.jpg

18.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/orestad07-1/18.jpg

19. Reminds me of some sort of Arne Jacobsen design
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/orestad07-1/19.jpg

20. Here we have parkhusene
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/orestad07-1/20.jpg

21. Again
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/orestad07-1/21.jpg

22.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/orestad07-1/22.jpg

23.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/orestad07-1/23.jpg

24.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/orestad07-1/24.jpg

25. Ørestad highschool almost completey finished.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/orestad07-1/25.jpg

26.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/orestad07-1/26.jpg

27. VM Husene
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/orestad07-1/27.jpg

28. Closer look...
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/orestad07-1/28.jpg

29. Neat facade
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/orestad07-1/29.jpg

30. Port Huset comming alive.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/orestad07-1/30.jpg

31.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/orestad07-1/31.jpg

32.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/orestad07-1/32.jpg

33.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/orestad07-1/33.jpg

34.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/orestad07-1/34.jpg

35.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/orestad07-1/35.jpg

36. VM Bjerget popping up.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/orestad07-1/36.jpg

37.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/orestad07-1/37.jpg

38. Here we have Bellahuset already completed.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/orestad07-1/38.jpg

39. Not really sure what's popping up here. There were no photos or signs...
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/orestad07-1/39.jpg

40. Everyones favorite building! :D :puke:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/orestad07-1/40.jpg

41. Looking back towards VM Bjerget
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/orestad07-1/41.jpg

42. Standing from Bella Centeret metro station looking over Ørestad city
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/orestad07-1/42.jpg

43.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/orestad07-1/43.jpg

44. Copenhagen skyline seen from a distance
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/orestad07-1/45.jpg

45. And the back-breaker of them all... the new DR-Byen and the DR concert hall (to the left) which has so far costed over 5 billion kroners to build...
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/orestad07-1/46.jpg

46. On my way home... We were stuck here between Islands Brygge and Christianshavn for nearly 15 damn minutes!!
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/orestad07-1/47.jpg

That's it. :)

:cheers2:

BTW... EDK_DK.. sorry i think i missed the KDL building... :( I'll get it next time! :)

13.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/orestad07-1/13.jpg



What? People in the park????!!!! That's the first time I've seen anything like that!!

^^
Nice pictures...it still looks a bit dead out there, but this summer alot of people will move out there, hopefully it will look more alive then:yes:

btw. you just gotta love the metro:no:

Thanx DLL...

BTW... EDK_DK.. sorry i think i missed the KDL building... I'll get it next time!

No you got it right here: (KLP):)

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/orestad07-1/02.jpg

Super update DLL, thanks!

Amazing, they are building so much there! Thanks for the pics!

BTW, does anyone know how many people will live and work in Örestad when finished?

Super work, DLL4ever :D
I apologize i'm terrible when it comes to names or discriptions... hope I'm forgiven. :)
You're forgiven. But since you did put numbers in, here's a few names for those not familiar with Ørestad:

No. 2 is the new (and second) KLP-officebuilding.
No. 6 is "CPH Golfpark", with the newest part "CPH Golfpark Sunset" to the left.
No. 8 is "Sejlhuset" by Vandkunsten Architects. Residential 12 floorer when completed.
No. 11 isn't crappy at all :)
No. 12 "Parkhusene", "Cityhusene" and "Sejlhuset"
No. 14 "Det flexible Hus" på Arkitema
No. 15 "CPH Golfpark"
No. 16 "Ørestadhuset"
No. 17 "Horisonten", "Det flexible Hus" and "Ørestadhuset"
No. 18 "Brohuset" behind "Ørestadhuset"
No. 22 "Porthuset"
No. 33 "Porthuset" again


BTW, does anyone know how many people will live and work in Örestad when finished?
From the Orestad Website:
At least 80,000 people will be working in Ørestad
At least 20,000 people will be living in Ørestad
Almost 20,000 people are already studying in Ørestad

WoW! That's a lot of people!

Well what do you know: I pop by orestad.dk to do some research on picture #39 and I found out that the urban space competition has been finished and the winners appointed. The page is chock full of visionary proposals so go there (http://www.orestad.dk/index/privat/nyhedsbrev/byrumskonkurrence_afgjort.htm) by yourself to take a look.

The winners were GHB landscape architects and Bystrup architects.

Please notice that these proposals are for Ørestad SYD - the newest part of the development, which has yet to be built (and where I bought a flat). This part of Ørestad is likely to be much more attractive than the "two rows of high, uniform building blocks facing each other across a green football field" approach of Ørestad City, since the municipality and the development company worked together to produce a master plan with detailed requirements for every parcel. So in the future when you hear about Ørestad Syd don't get confused and think that it will be as uninspiring as Ørestad City. Rather pop by the master plan document (http://www.planogarkitektur.kk.dk/Byplanl%C3%A6gning/Lokalplaner%20og%20byplaner/Lokalplan%20385-400/LP%20398%20%C3%98restad%20Syd.aspx) and get an idea of how good it will end up looking in 10 years time.

Well, I wanted to include pictures from the winning proposals but it turns out they are so big that my browser crashes every time it tries to render them. Since I do not have the time to do a download/rescale/upload/embed-routine I'll just have to refer you to the website if you're interested. The titles of some of the proposed locations/activity spots are (roughly translated):

The mist sea
The wishing well (a la Fontana Trevi)
The world space
The dewy meadow
The sky mirror
The paradice
The iceberg
Square A (square of opportunities)
Square G

What happend...

Those pic are way to big... My computer frozen when I tryed to update this site.

Edit:
Well, I wanted to include pictures from the winning proposals but it turns out they are so big that my browser crashes every time

Thanks...

By the way if you have the stomach for it try reading "Dommerpanelets betænkning" (i.e. the jury's justification of their verdict) available both in Danish (http://www.arkitektforeningen.dk/upload/konkurrencer/danske/afsluttede/bet%C3%A6nk_orestad_dk.pdf) and in English (http://www.arkitektforeningen.dk/upload/konkurrencer/danske/afsluttede/orestad_bet%C3%A6nkning-uk001.pdf). It is 26 pages long, gives a better impression of what the urban spaces will actually look like compared to the funky images. However, you have to wonder if these guys are high on something considering that already on page 4 they throw themselves into fits of quoting Immanuel Kant and citing various theories of cultural identity!

Ørestad Syd is definitely going to be different from the bland Ørestad City that's for sure.

Damn! Looks like a booming place. Maybe sometimes to much modern, but i like it!

August 2006
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/3465/orestad2bh6.jpg

April 2007
I guess i might as well just start off with the photo i took from the same spot :)
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/orestad07-1/43.jpg

Not bad for 8 months! :happy:


Great pics Danny!

Urbanus> I know what you mean. It's also the first time i saw people in that park. But i think there was something going on... there were a hell of a lot of dogs so im guessing there was some sort of dog show or "bring your dog" meet or something.. :)

Oelanddk> I'm defidentally looking forward to when clubs/bars/cafes start popping up :)

EDK_DK> Ahhhh i see. You like that building? Hmm.. from the sign it just looks like something boring..

tournesol> Awesome. I'll try and update my post so people can see it. (Have to wait a bit though, don't really have time right now.)

Mr.D> I agree. :yes: It's gonna look even more AWESOME in 5 years when all (or most?) of the towers have been built and all the bars/clubs are open and people have moved in... damn... Ørestad is gonna be sweet!

The rest> Thanks! :cheers2:

Mr.D> I agree. :yes: It's gonna look even more AWESOME in 5 years when all (or most?) of the towers have been built and all the bars/clubs are open and people have moved in... damn... Ørestad is gonna be sweet!

5 years - are you telling me the "Liebeskind complex" is done in only 5 years???? SWEET indeed! :happy:

/\ No clue... i hope less... :D

It could have happen, but now DSB have closed the rail-line from Roskilde til the Airport through Ørestad which gave another direct connection from the outskirt-areas to Ørestad. Now there is two connection (Metro and regional/Øresuns-railways), but both are to the citycenter, and they don't connect many residential areas at their way - the metro connects some, but the regional railway connects almost none, and therefor the Ørestad chances of making it a new citycenter is rather small.
It could have been the natural center for the blooming southern urban areas like Sydhavn, Sluseholmen, Islands Brygge etc., but they all connects mostly towards the old city, as well as the rest of Amager (outside the metrolines) and the southern and western suburbs (a long Køge Bugt and the Høje Tåstrup main railway line). And I agree when it only connects to the old center, then it will be hard to create a new center since the old center is too strong and will attract all citylife. And it's also a problem that Ørestad and the areas aound it is not dense enough at all!!
The mainline train connects to a large amount of residential areas - only they are along the east coast of Zealand and reached by the train going trough Copenhagen Central and then further north terminating in Elsinore - the third largest city of Zealand.

The way the infrastructure has been built it is actually possible to let mainline trains go from Ørestad to the west of Denmark directly without having to pass through Copenhagen Central. Furthermore, the main train line connects directly to Malmö and even to Göteborg and Stockholm without needing to go through Copenhagen Central. Finally, the highway that connects Ørestad will take you south of Copenhagen, west of Copenhagen or to Sweden without having to pass through the city centre.

Perhaps this screen grab makes the potential more evident:
http://www.23hq.com/knilaus/photo/1896921/original

I concur with Urbanus that the closure of the direct regional line from Roskilde to the airport is not a good omen for the future of Ørestad as a city centre but I maintain that the borough has the necessary infrastructure already meaning that it is mostly other factors such as job creation and construction of attractive residences that will determine if eventually it can attract enough direct connections to merit the status of 'a new city centre'.

I heard that there is room for 8 tracks at Ørestad station. So I think it is destined to evenually become the second main station in Copenhagen (or third if you count Høje Taastrup :lol: )

I heard that there is room for 8 tracks at Ørestad station. So I think it is destined to evenually become the second main station in Copenhagen (or third if you count Høje Taastrup :lol: )
That sounds interesting. Where exactly would you put the other six tracks with corresponding platforms?
http://www.23hq.com/knilaus/photo/1897888/original

http://www.23hq.com/knilaus/photo/1925740/large

^^I was actually saying to my friend some time ago when we were out there, that in a few years when all is build this is going to be very bussy but that I didnt see many ways add aditional tracks...

Mush of the dirt hills either act as a soundbarier or holds the pillers for the bridge, so that would mean that extra tracks would have to be after the moterway....It just doesnt seam likely. Im not saying the screwed it up, but it would be just soooo typical if they had screwed up on something like that....

^^ To those who dare doubt the Blue Viking :)
(page 3, second column) - only in Danish:

http://www.ramboll.dk/docs/dan/Pressecenter/Publikationer/Faglige/trafikknudepunkt.pdf

^^ To those who dare doubt the Blue Viking :)
(page 3, second column) - only in Danish:
http://www.ramboll.dk/docs/dan/Pressecenter/Publikationer/Faglige/trafikknudepunkt.pdf
Nice to get a reference for the claim. I still wonder however where they intend to place the additional platforms and tracks!

By the way to corroborate your evidence I managed to find a document (http://www.trafikstyrelsen.dk/sw104971.asp) at the National Rail Authority where the then acting director uses the fact of the possibility to construct a second Central Station in Ørestaden as an argument to rebutt claims regarding the unfeasible price of expanding capacity by building a new railway line through Køge. This document is dated June 2006, which implies that it is indeed still an active and valid option in the minds of national traffic planners. In fact a decision regarding the expansion of capacity on our mainline will be taken soon and I imagine that the question of and a possible timeframe for constructing a second Central Station will be factored into these decisions as will of course the possibility of a new bridge connecting Denmark and Germany via the island of Fehmern.

I think it makes sense to consider the possibility of placing a new Central Station in Ørestaden considering the location's good connections both with the west, north and south of Denmark, Sweden, the airport and the city centre. And I think that if a decision is made to build a second Central Station it will be the ultimate proof that Ørestad is on the way to becoming an alternative city centre.

By the way I produced this simple copy/paste-manipulation of the above aerial to better see if the existing area might in fact be able to accommodate an expansion. I know my 'photoshopping' skills suck but at least it shows that it would in principle be possible to fit a few more tracks inside the area. If they were to build a central station there I'd assume they would build it partially into the ground and presumably for the covered building they would be able to use materials that support better the metro bridge and can insulate better the sound from the adjacent highway?
http://www.23hq.com/knilaus/photo/1901176/original

The second interesting Ørestad fact of the day (http://www.regionh.dk/NR/rdonlyres/D95D3C50-485C-4AB4-B2F4-99CEBB7D5961/0/Aftaleomhospitalsogpsykiatriplanmedunderskrifter.pdf) is that the Capital Region Council has approved a hospital plan for 2007 - 2012 where one of the initiatives is to acquire an option for a parcel to accommodate a possible, larger hospital development in Ørestaden.

This initiative along with the rhetoric about an 'Ørestad Central Station' and similar proposals by politicians and city planners to house a new Central Library and 5.000 new 'inexpensive residences' in Ørestad suggests to me that the Ørestad development is increasingly being viewed by politicians and other decisionmakers as an inexpensive alternative location for the construction of new and/or expansion of existing large public institutions. This is indeed promising news for the future status of Ørestaden but it also begs the question if the current delimitations between urban zones and natural habitats can continue to be respected in the future.

^^That would be stretched to the max, and as I said, I dont really see it. Mostly because of the fact that these grass/dirt fields, act both as sound barriers and, I belieb, also hold the pillors for the bridge. So I dont see extra tracks there. But I guess a second station could work.

Speaking of that, how far does the metro go out? I mean, I know there is one more stadion after ØC, but does that cover all of Ørestad Syd? Or could they expand it further?

The hospital plan and a new giant modern hospital in Ærestaden is something I have argued for, for a while now, and i am glad to see it happening. Both for patients from the region, aswell as docters, student and scientists from the whole øresundsregion, it would be an ideal place. And a great way to put some life into the city. And e need that new hospital. The onece we have are so outdated ist almost criminal.

In that same sence I would like to see a new national stadium out there, though I had hoped, it could be located in or at least very close to Ørestad city station. But I guess it is all pretty close out there....

I had not heard the talks abot moving the library out there also. I must say I am mixed about that. I wasent crazy about any of thelocations thay had talked about re. Scala, Isreals Plads or Vandværksgrunden, but I still feel that the library belongs in copenhagen city center, where most people are. But I guess if they can doo if propperly with a great architect and create something amazing it would be worth it...I am just afraid it would be too empthy. It needs to be in a place with a lot of people. In the center of the city. Ærestaden is still to far away for that, IMO...

Speaking of that, how far does the metro go out? I mean, I know there is one more stadion after ØC, but does that cover all of Ørestad Syd? Or could they expand it further?
It's unlikely they're going to expand it further south since it would then run into the protected EU-habitat that is "Kalvebod Fælled" and is technically a part of Tårnby Kommune (meaning more difficult negotiations about co-financing). However, as I wrote in another thread it is projected that it may be necessary to erect another station in between Ørestad and Vestamager to be called "Ørestad Syd".

In that same sence I would like to see a new national stadium out there, though I had hoped, it could be located in or at least very close to Ørestad city station. But I guess it is all pretty close out there....
Coincidentally, it is also projected that there will be some sort of multi-purpose arena, stadium or concert venue directly next to this stop on the metro. Read local plan 398 for further info on that.

I had not heard the talks abot moving the library out there also. I must say I am mixed about that. I wasent crazy about any of thelocations thay had talked about re. Scala, Isreals Plads or Vandværksgrunden, but I still feel that the library belongs in copenhagen city center, where most people are. But I guess if they can doo if propperly with a great architect and create something amazing it would be worth it...I am just afraid it would be too empthy. It needs to be in a place with a lot of people. In the center of the city. Ærestaden is still to far away for that, IMO...
You can read more about the kommune's proposal to create a new super-library open 65 hours per week in Ørestad here (http://www.oravis.dk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=155&Itemid=567).

Personally, I don't see a problem with the proposed location in Ørestad since I am already used to taking the S-train to Nørreport and walking for 5 minutes to get to the current Copenhagen central library. The experience will not be significantly different if I have to take the metro instead and to be honest I think that most citizens are already used to this way of going to the library (i.e. taking the train to and from there ignoring their local library altogether).

I don't think a library is an institution that is dependent on being located somewhere, where there is life already. I think a library as an institution will naturally create and attract life in so far as it is well connected to public transportation. For example, I'm pretty sure that the Frederiksberg Central Library has experienced a surge in lending after it was connected to the metro. Prior to that my impression of the place is as a dusty little thing that more or less led its own secluded life.

EDIT: My mistake - it's not a new central library that is being proposed. It is in fact a merger of the present three or four local little libraries present in Amager that are proposed to be merged into a bigger, regional library, which will still have the best opening hours in the country.

^^Ah,that makes more sence then. I still believe it should be in the city center.

About the metro. I didnt think they would expand it now, but my point is that once it and everywhere else is build, it would be a natural place to continue building out there, and a metro would be needed for that. So it would be in everyones interest if they would atleast prepare for it...

Oh, and also. I have only glansed at 398 quickly, but it seams to me that the few sports thing they are talking about, relates mainly to residence use, not the type of national arene/stadium I am talking about. But it is probably in there somwhere, if I look for it. A new national stadium in ørestaden or somewhere lke that, is part of Martin Geertsens "10 in 10 years", so it would suprise me if they hadnt pushed for the local plan to be ready for something like that...

About the metro. I didnt think they would expand it now, but my point is that once it and everywhere else is build, it would be a natural place to continue building out there, and a metro would be needed for that. So it would be in everyones interest if they would atleast prepare for it...
Well - one of the reasons why I bought my flat out there was because of the opportunity to live in an urban fashion yet have a huge natural habitat right outside your door so personally I wouldn't be too happy if they scrapped the protected EU-habitat status altogether!

Oh, and also. I have only glansed at 398 quickly, but it seams to me that the few sports thing they are talking about, relates mainly to residence use, not the type of national arene/stadium I am talking about.
I don't remember exactly where I saw the text but the location/possible facility is the one I've tried to frame in blue here:
http://www.23hq.com/knilaus/photo/1905343/original

..

What's up with the Byfälled? is there a need for open space? Looks to me like there's plenty of it outside Örestad Syd...
Overall it looks real nice, but if urbanity is what they're going for, why not really go for it?

/repeating myself from ALOT of other threads :D

And this is a "small" list of the construction which are supposed to begin in 2007 in Ørestad syd. INSANE......


JM Danmark
Solgt areal: Ca. 20.000 m2
Byggeperiode: Byggestart 2007
Arkitekt: 3xNielsen

Essex Park Ørestad
Solgt areal: Ca. 27.000 m2
Byggeperiode: Byggestart 2007
Arkitekt: Vandkunsten og Arkitema

T-Husene
Solgt areal: 20.000 m2
Byggeperiode: byggestart 2007
Arkitekt: Steven Holl

Fri Kvarteret
Solgt areal: 25.000 m2
Byggeperiode: Byggestart 2007
Arkitekt: Gert Wingårdh Arkitektkontor, Jensen & Skodvin Arkitektkontor, Entasis, Fuglesang Arkitekter, landskabsarkitekt
- Vogt Landschaftarchitekten

Lake-City
Solgt areal: 32.000 m2
Byggeperiode: Byggestart 2007
Arkitekt: Arkitektfirmaet Vandkunsten designer masterplanen
for karréen. Endvidere medvirker Århus Arkitekterne,
Kim Utzon Arkitekter og Wilhelm Lauritsens
tegnestue.

BIG HOUSE
Solgt areal: 58.000 m2
Byggeperiode: Byggestart medio 2007
Arkitekt: Bjarke Ingels Group

Stævnen
Solgt areal: 20.000 m2
Byggeperiode: Byggestart 2007
Arkitekt: Vilhelm Lauritzens tegnestue

^That adds up to 202000m2. Which is still less than the new WTC 2 :D

^That adds up to 202000m2. Which is still less than the new WTC 2 :D

^^ That's a lot of sqm (WTC 2):nuts:

We can add Ørestad City then... Enough?

Ørestad City: (Others already UC - not included sqm?)

AAB - Almene seniorboliger
Solgt areal: 9.000 m2
Byggeperiode:medio 2007 – ultimo 2008
Arkitekt: Arkitektfirmet Entasis

KLP Ejendomme A/S
Solgt areal:� 50.000 m2
Byggeperiode:Byggestart medio 2007
Arkitekt: Gottlieb & Paludan

Caraco Development
Solgt areal:10.000 m2
Byggeperiode:Byggestart medio 2007

Cap Inn
Solgt areal: 12.000 m2
Byggeperiode: byggestart medio 2007
Arkitekt: Daniel Libeskind

SEB Pension
Solgt areal: 40.000 m2
Byggeperiode: Forventet byggeperiode medio 2007 - medio 2009.
Arkitekt: A.A.R.T arkitekter udarbejder karréplanen

Looks great. I love the ideas of tennis courts on the roofs and a running track all over different buildings. I have never in my life seen anything like that, and if it will work, it could be amazing.

Like Swede, I am not crazy about this huge wasteland that id the fælled. I think they should do something about it at the moment it is just bare and windy and ugly and not really of any use other the walking and running and the ocational shoot-out. They should make a real park insted. Get it under control, and start making it better looking and more useble for everyone in copenhagen.

That way we can also begin to have a debate about what should be used for what in the future and if some of it should be used for more buildings. At the moment is is jst laying there, with no use and noone doing any thing about it because it is "grade listed". I think the area should have a lot more sports complexes and areas of use for that nature.

^^Ah, I see. That is next to what is the possible Ørestad syd station that you mentioned, right? I guess that could be a good location. And with room for a roling pitch, so we can get a decent lawn that rolles away and ot in the air, when the stadiumis used for other things. And with plenty of room for parking and huge crowds. No reason to create another Parken...

Btw, there seam to be a rather huge gab between to 2 parts of Ørestad Syd. Do you know why that is? Could it be a small park, or perhaps more room designed for sports areas. I know in connection with the Olympic idea someone suggested that Ørestaden could be a great place for both Tennis courts and a swimming arena, both needing a rather big space....

Why do all the "highrises" have to be located just next to the highway:(
But Ørestad Syd looks VERY dense - lovely!:yes:

Totally agree with you all about byfælleden. The rest of the fælled is so close that one within the town is not needed.

As go for sports facilities on the roofs we will actually soon see the first one on the top of the parking house behind the high school in Ørestad City. They plan to make volleyball courts and recreational areas for the students and the inhabitants in the area. the parking house is almost done by now so the roof will hopefully be done soon.

From a press release regarding the parking house:
"Rekreativt område
I samarbejde med Ørestad Gymnasium indrettes det fælles udeareal på parkeringshusets tag med opholds- og sportsfaciliteter til brug for gymnasiet og de tilstødende bolig- og kontorprojekter. Her vil der blive indrettet volleyball bane, siddegrupper og beplantning."

cphdude
Speaking of the arena, what's happening with? I remember about a year ago Don Ö and Percy went a couple of rounds of smack talk in the papers about whose arena would be the better one and who'd be finished first. Since then I've barely heard anything of the Copenhagen arena, whereas the one in Malmö is already under construction. Any website or other some such where I can read about the project?

EDIT
I'm correct in assuming you're talking about the indoor, multi-use arena?

Nice! A couple of highrises atleast! :D

Bella Center is working on raising money for the arena. They hope is to arrange European Championship in Handball in 2010. the arena should have capacity for 15.000 spectators. The Danish government has recently reserved some money for investments in big sports facilities so there is a good chance I think. The arena is planned to be placed on the big parking lot next to Bella Center. Don Ø will build a smaller arena near Parken very soon with capacity for 5.000 spectators.

The newest info about the bella center arena: (in Danish)

http://www.bellacenter.dk/Bella+Center/Presse/Nyheder/ca40/newsid/18862

Ok, I thought Don Ö was building the one at Örestad. But it's still good to hear that the project is coming along. Would be kind of cool if Malmö and Copenhagen could co-host European Championship. The arena in Malmö will be about the same size so it would probably work out great.

Nice! A couple of highrises atleast! :D

A couple....!

11 > 75m - Ørestad City
10 - 12 floors Ørestad City
7 - 50m - Ørestad Syd
? - Ørestad Nord

That's ok in S&B standard... IMO :)

;12959890']cphdude
Speaking of the arena, what's happening with? I remember about a year ago Don Ö and Percy went a couple of rounds of smack talk in the papers about whose arena would be the better one and who'd be finished first. Since then I've barely heard anything of the Copenhagen arena, whereas the one in Malmö is already under construction. Any website or other some such where I can read about the project?

As acebone said Bella Centeret is currently working on a project and Don Ø is no longer involved in that. The arena, if build, will be located at Bella Centeret. I am however not as uptimistic as acebone about the project. They have tried to get it off the ground for 6-7 years now and they have now given them selfs the rest of the year to try and finance the project. If they cant, they will scrab the project for good. At the moment they say, if all goes well and they could everyone who has expressed an interest in the project, they maybe have about half the money needed (400 mil out of 800) and that includes city founding and support from foundations and sponsors, so I must say I am not that optimistic. Eventhough several studdies have show a great financial gain for the state, the government has refused to help finance the arena. They have recently set up some money in a colected plan to get more sportsevents to Denmark, but that only comes to about 80 million kroner over 4 years. And that covers the entire country...So if you are missing 400 million, you begin to see wht this proposel wont make that much difference. They have also talked about making som promises to an investor that a certain amount of days would be garantied in use by the state, and I guess that might interest someone. But I doubt it, since noone has really expressed any doubt that it could be used. If we get a euro cup in handball or hockey, then of couse they would use it. So that garanty has pretty much been there all the time.

So in other words, I have my doubt that this will ever happen. Malmø is now getting their arena, and that makes it even less likely. Unless some big coperete sponsor or foundation or billioner decides to spend money on it, it is really not likely to happen. And they have been trying to convince sponsors and fondations of that now for 7 years and everyone knows how importent it is and still noone seams interested in it. So, no, I honestly dont think it will happen, but I hope to god I will be proven wrong...

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EDIT
I'm correct in assuming you're talking about the indoor, multi-use arena?


No, actually I was, in this case, talking about a new national football stadium...

^ thats pretty good! :)

Nice work!

Unfortunatly I have a bad feeling about the area turning a bit "suburban" despite the floorcount... it needs something more... a grand avenue with commecial stuff or a convention center or something...

But atleast it will look nice! :)
11 > 75m - Ørestad Is there a timeframe for those?

Hopefully soon! :)

Nice work!

Unfortunatly I have a bad feeling about the area turning a bit "suburban" despite the floorcount... it needs something more... a grand avenue with commecial stuff or a convention center or something...

But atleast it will look nice! :)
Is there a timeframe for those?

Hopefully soon! :)

"NCC Property Development A/S og Ørestadsselskabet har indgået en samarbejdsaftale om byudvikling i Ørestad. Aftalen betyder, at NCC over de næste fem år skal bygge 205.000 etagementer erhvervsbyggeri i Ørestad. De mange etagemeter fordeler sig med 100.000 etagemeter nord for Øresundsmotorvejen og 105.000 etagemeter
syd for motorvejen."

11 includes the two towers in the Bella Center project...
The twin towers by Libeskind are suppose to start in the beginning of 2008 as well as the new WTC (Copenhagen Towers)

I don,t know when the construction of the Fields Tower are planed to go uc - (tsk tsk)

^ Okay thanks.... that's 5 known.. any ideas about the last 6??

Ehmm the Fields Tower - wasn't that located in what is now the Libeskind area where the "arcade" will be???

^ Okay thanks.... that's 5 known.. any ideas about the last 6??

Ehmm the Fields Tower - wasn't that located in what is now the Libeskind area where the "arcade" will be???

1xFerring
1xFields tårn (NCC Area)
4X NCC AREA (2 south and 2 north of the motorway)
3 x WTC - Copenhagen Towers
And 2 from Bella Center (Not part of the masterplan)

Can't remember if it was 7 or 9 50m towers in Ørestad syd...
I could find out though.

1xFerring
1xFields tårn (NCC Area)
4X NCC AREA (2 south and 2 north of the motorway)
3 x WTC - Copenhagen Towers
And 2 from Bella Center (Not part of the masterplan)

Can't remember if it was 7 or 9 50m towers in Ørestad syd...
I could find out though.

You forgot the Cab inn hotel in the Libeskind area, with 15 floors. It still counts as a highrise even thoug its not tall..:)

Some pictures from Ørestaden today. The quality is partly because of my non-existing camera skills, partly because they are mobile shots :). First construction equipment on the Liebeskind area next to Fields. Perhaps we will see some construction soon?

http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/1117/photo0045ko0.jpg

Construction of new KLP office building

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/6130/photo0046di2.jpg

And the last two are from VM-bjerget which is well under way now!

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/8193/photo0047bn8.jpg

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/4585/photo0048ur0.jpg

Nice!

THX Blue Viking

Remarkable have fast the second KLP building is rising...

BTW Has the groundwork on the Cab Inn lot started?

THX Blue Viking

Remarkable have fast the second KLP building is rising...

BTW Has the groundwork on the Cab Inn lot started?

You're welcome. No, there's no sign at all of construction at the Cab Inn lot. Probably won't start before the design is finalised.

More pictures from the same area as of last weekend:

Ferring:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/198/487047519_9ec33bbeff_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/179/487018194_e8b780c8a6_b.jpg

Ørestad Mainline Station (no room for 6 - 8 tracks!):
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/174/487018342_be57f4889a_b.jpg

Ørestad Gymnasium:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/230/487047651_a3a8000b50_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/219/487047823_32f7a18141_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/209/487047983_603e443179_b.jpg

Parkhusene:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/215/487019844_ad8d32b83f_b.jpg

Byparken in Ørestad City - from right to left: Brohuset, Ørestadshuset, Det Flexible Hus, Horisonten.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/205/487020060_5796b1d2df_b.jpg

Ørestadshuset:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/190/487050531_218b376807_b.jpg

Det Flexible Hus and Horisonten:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/208/487021874_58ca9b8480_b.jpg

Porthuset:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/167/487049097_d87568bcd2_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/195/487049255_eb604304b2_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/232/487049879_a5512fca67_b.jpg

Porthuset and VM-husene:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/216/487049475_55b35f4fd9_b.jpg

VM-husene:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/168/487050099_0098aec871_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/231/487021518_f9a896c0f1_b.jpg

The first KLP-house:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/226/487022106_20eb55be7b_b.jpg

Field's - a pity they didn't let shops open to the street also. It would have been much more lively:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/208/487019478_113f7b872a_b.jpg

Work is getting underway in Ørestad Syd (from left to right Holistic House, Stævnen, BIG House - according to the master plan):
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/167/487022248_40e3ed5063_b.jpg

Details from the infrastructure construction in Ørestad Syd:
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=468282771&context=set-72157600108985244&size=l

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/229/468270990_02c486d418_b.jpg

Ørestad City seen from Ørestad Syd (from left to right: Copenhagen Golf Park, AAB, Signalhuset, Field's):
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/227/468270730_631e3439e8_b.jpg

Ørestad City as seen from Sundby Metro Station:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/173/468269762_da6a3a2e85_b.jpg

DR Concert Hall, Ørestad Nord:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/198/468281433_6d0f9bcec4_b.jpg

Nice updates & photos Blue Viking & knilaus :cheers2: :applause:

Nice pictures!...the first picture of Ferring looks so unreal - almost like a render:)

Nice update! Thanks for sharing! :D

Pretty architecture... shitty planning :(

edit: okay, the planning may have been ALOT shittier, atleast the quarters you are building are Perimetral. But why the do you have those green spacers between Syd and that built up part... and damn Fields is just uuuuuuuuugly.
hopefully time will fix those errors...

Pretty architecture... shitty planning :(

It's not our fault! You need to blame the Finns (http://www.aprt.fi/english/about.html) :baeh3:

It's not our fault! You need to blame the Finns (http://www.aprt.fi/english/about.html) :baeh3:

sons of ****** :ohno:

I feel sorry for the Ferring ... it looks so lonely.

Great pictures, btw, I'm really excited about the Ørestad Syd area :D

Thanks for the pictures - I love it.

At http://www.mangor-nagel.dk/ you can see two new projects.
The housing project "Boavista" which will be placed south of the high way nest to ramboll and is expected to start up this summer, and the office building next to Signalhuset which will start up sometime this year.

Thanks Knilaus... Nice Pic/update
Are you planning on going there tomorrow as well (Lys og Arkitektur Picnic)?

Thanks Knilaus... Nice Pic/update
Are you planning on going there tomorrow as well (Lys og Arkitektur Picnic)?

I wish I could but I've promised to attend a 50 year birthday in the family at he exact same time :gaah:

I will be going to the Ørestad Syd presentation/discussion on Sunday however. Not as many opportunities to take pictures though..

Thanks for the info acebone! It looks promising! I wonder what form of residences the Boa Vista project will become. EDIT: I just found out that the Boa Vista is also going to be erected by Ceraco in a joint venture with their Aalborg entrepreneurs "A. Enggaard". It will be 129 residences. Source: BygNet (http://www.bygnet.dk/bygnet/go;jsessionid=D9ACACCAA66B5AA00B5314FE7CF0A24F?action=302&leftRows=10&leftCount=674&groupId=301&id=8499&leftFirstRow=231).

I've taken the liberty of scraping the pictures off the Mangor Nagel website and putting them here in the context of a map of their intended location:

http://www.23hq.com/knilaus/photo/1960696/original

Boa Vista is number 55 and the Ceraco Office Building is 39.

This is what the Boa Vista will look like:
http://www.23hq.com/knilaus/photo/1960699/original

It looks to me like a mix between the VM-houses and the "Boligslangen".

And this is the Ceraco office development:
http://www.23hq.com/knilaus/photo/1960700/original

I think it will fit in well with the style already established by the KLP-houses and Field's. Whether that's good or bad I don't know but I think the KLP-one is interesting so this one might well be too.

NCC has updated their webpage about the Liebeskind project. It now says that the hotel will start up this autumn and the two towers and building 10 will start up next year.

http://www.orestaddowntown.dk/

First next year? Argh... we all know the nimbys will cancel it out by then :( It needs to start now!!!

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i like the Boa Vista look... it looks... cool.. :)
the Ceraco office... hmm... its fine.. i dont hate it.. but i dont love it.. kinda of a 50/50 building.

I really like the Ceraco office-building.

It is different, colourful and daring - what we need in Ørestad.

P

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good photographs. thank you. It's a shame that Sejl-huset looks so dated already

Sweet pics Knilaus - and very infomative too - Thanks!


My God I hate Sejl-huset :ohno:

Thanks Knilaus

But this is Signalhuset: (right next to the second KLP office building)
http://www.23hq.com/knilaus/photo/1970207/large?signature=686+1179700315+1C9E0902CB43BCF7224AF9C17BF6AD1F07988883

And this one is Sejlhuset:
http://www.23hq.com/knilaus/photo/1970219/large?signature=427+1179700365+EC781C2DDB6F29580BC7D6D0F7D6E9262BD61B9E

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beautiful scenery....
Ørestadhuset saturday night: (Lys og Arkitektur Picnic)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/76008010@N00/504230523/

DEL... Sorry

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Nice update!

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beautiful scenery....
Ørestadhuset saturday night: (Lys og Arkitektur Picnic)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/76008010@N00/504230523/

Looks great. Is it going to look like that on a regular basis?

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Looks great. Is it going to look like that on a regular basis?

Are you kidding cphdude? (It's not Las vegas yet..)

But I agree it looks great when dence areas are lightened up. (perhaps this is to extreme for residential)

Announced (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=474536) in S&B on May 15th. Sorry if you missed it.

No, I saw that and I know that this was a special event. But I thought they might keep some of it, as part of the new police on lighting more buildings in Copenhagen.

Are you kidding cphdude? (It's not Las vegas yet..)

But I agree it looks great when dence areas are lightened up. (perhaps this is to extreme for residential)

No, I know that noone wants to sleep in a bedroom with a giant green or red light outside the window. But as I said they could keep some of it...

No, I know that noone wants to sleep in a bedroom with a giant green or red light outside the window. But as I said they could keep some of it...

Agree... And let's hope so... (Ørestaden er stadig en baby)

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I agree but I would be surprised if the installation was not based on rented equipment, which naturally needs to be returned once the event is over.

By the way I don't think there is a policy on lighting more buildings in Copenhagen - at least yet. Some people have been advocating it persistently for years but I don't think anything has been politically approved?

Personally, I prefer to watch stars rather than buildings at night. I also think that permanently lighting buildings at night is an unnecessary waste of electricity.


not a clear polecy yet, that is correct. But they are trying it out on some building this year and I think all parties agree that we need more light. Since I am no longer in the city, I have stoped watching the local news and reading the local paper, where things like that normally would be talked about. So I dont know the latest...

Personally, I prefer to watch stars rather than buildings at night. I also think that permanently lighting buildings at night is an unnecessary waste of electricity.
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I'm getting tired of all those stars.
I'll rather see some beautiful tall buildings shinning towards the sky at night.

Wanna see stars? Come visit Randers...or Bjerringbro by night :-)

I'm not talking Las Vegas style here. But Copenhagen must be the most dark capital in the world at night. Read the book "Lys eller Ej" by Peter Olesen. I agree with him..

http://www.berlingske.dk/business/artikel:aid=505330:fid=100100120/

/\ I agree.. the only places that really look good at night are Rådhuspladsen/Tivoli and the areas around Strøget.. other than that we do need a MAJOR improvement in Copenhagen's night-light!

Here's a semi-old photo thread i made of Copenhagen during the night:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=408306&highlight=copenhagen+by+night

It looks like a huge commieblock area vol 2. With Super architecture, denser, and more perimetral. I dont know if all this looks fucking awesome, or crap.

Bella Center has publiced its financial report for 2006 today. the good news in it are that they still work on Copenhagen Dome with room for 15.000 spectators and 35.000 sqm.

Besides this they work on a plan for the whole area around Bella Center with offices, flats, new parking facilities, more congress facilities and "city"-areas. In this way BC will be linked up with Ørestad and create an even bigger Ørestad.

^^Sure, they are still working on the dome, but there is, as far as I can tell, no real news on that front. Its the same thing they have said the last few years....

Like I said, I doubt it will happen....

New pictures from Ørestaden.
Still some space left in both north and city. A lot had happend out there in just one year. And this is just the beginning...


1)
http://i7.tinypic.com/61mjaye.jpg
"Fotograf: Ole Malling / Ørestadsselskabet"

2)
http://i10.tinypic.com/61y7zpl.jpg
"Fotograf: Ole Malling / Ørestadsselskabet"

3)
http://i9.tinypic.com/4ys2knq.jpg
"Fotograf: Ole Malling / Ørestadsselskabet"

4)
http://i11.tinypic.com/5xpz9s4.jpg
"Fotograf: Ole Malling / Ørestadsselskabet"

5)
http://i17.tinypic.com/4v84ndt.jpg
"Fotograf: Ole Malling / Ørestadsselskabet"

Also credit and thanks to "Lene" from Ørestadsselskabet :-)

Nice pictures.

Does anyone know what has happened to the combined parking and housing project called "Black wing" that was supposed to be built just north of "Det flexible hus"?

Great pics!

Great pics!
But why all the parking lots?! Surely there must be a couple of parking houses somewhere? The best solution would of course be if each house had its own underground parking, so you could take the elevator up to your apartment :)

And whats with the park? Where are the benches? Are people not supposed to sit in the park? There are no flowers, but fortunately some trees. And what's with the straight pathway through it? Looking at the grass, it seems like the greenkeeper should be jailed - it looks terrible! :bash:. And why aren't there any pathways in the park. Surely people are not meant only to move along the straight road? And what about those joggers? Shouldn't they have some pathways inside the "park". Let's face it. Currently this is not a park - its a green pasture with a straight pathway.

Finally it could be more than nice if people had somewhere to put the Barbecue! The courtyards in between the buildings are so covered with tall buildings that the base must be in constant shadow! Well, there is always the park - with no benches :nuts:.

I am more than ambiguous about this project. It looks like an area where people are supposed to go home to their apartments and live isolated lives. Why go out? There is nothing that motivates people to take a walk outside. No real parks, no shops, no cafés, no place to put the BBQ. You name it. Buy a dog - then you have to get out :ohno:

But we must remember that the project is not finished. I hope that they can complete the whole plan, now with house prices on the decline in Copenhagen. The thing I love the most about it all, is the BIG house and the nearby V and M house.

there will be built a lot of parking houses in Ørestad. The parking lots as it is now are there until the houses get built. Two parking houses are being built at the moment. Bjerget next to VM-houses and one behind the high school.

You can see some plans for the park here:

http://www.mutopia.dk/frontpage/projects/urban_uk/citypark_2

@ Markowich: All the parking places (from the 3rd photo) are temporary, and the area will be very densly build up (after Libeskind's masterplan for the area).

I do share your concerns for the "park" though, but hopefully I'm wrong. It needs lots of walkpaths, trees, flowers, water and so on. I do think they have some plans for it though...

EDIT: acebone was too fast for me;)

Great pics!
But why all the parking lots?! Surely there must be a couple of parking houses somewhere? The best solution would of course be if each house had its own underground parking, so you could take the elevator up to your apartment :)

And whats with the park? Where are the benches? Are people not supposed to sit in the park? There are no flowers, but fortunately some trees. And what's with the straight pathway through it? Looking at the grass, it seems like the greenkeeper should be jailed - it looks terrible! :bash:. And why aren't there any pathways in the park. Surely people are not meant only to move along the straight road? And what about those joggers? Shouldn't they have some pathways inside the "park". Let's face it. Currently this is not a park - its a green pasture with a straight pathway.

Finally it could be more than nice if people had somewhere to put the Barbecue! The courtyards in between the buildings are so covered with tall buildings that the base must be in constant shadow! Well, there is always the park - with no benches :nuts:.

I am more than ambiguous about this project. It looks like an area where people are supposed to go home to their apartments and live isolated lives. Why go out? There is nothing that motivates people to take a walk outside. No real parks, no shops, no cafés, no place to put the BBQ. You name it. Buy a dog - then you have to get out :ohno:

But we must remember that the project is not finished. I hope that they can complete the whole plan, now with house prices on the decline in Copenhagen. The thing I love the most about it all, is the BIG house and the nearby V and M house.

All the parking lots are temporarily.
The big one next to the Fields mall will be turned into Ørestad Downtown.

Ørestad Downtown
Masterplan by Libeskind:
http://www.orestaddowntown.dk/

Like you said yourself the project isn't finished yet...

EDIT: hehe mlm I was 2 min. to late...And acebone by 3 min

/\ That website is quite nice, though I wonder if the people behind it has ever been outside Denmark: "Velkommen til Ørestad Downtown ... en unik bydel med verdens måske fedeste kontorer" :clown:

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Very nice pictures EDK! They make you want to own a hot air balloon! You wouldn't happen to know if they took a similar picture facing south - i.e. toward the area that willl become "Ørestad Syd"?

They do have some from "Ørestad Syd" also.
http://www.orestad.dk/index/erhverv/presse-3/billedarkiv-3.htm

You'll have to ask for the bigger version though.
-login as guest-luftfoto...

A few more sketches and a short video trailer have been released at

http://www.orestaddowntown.dk/

Good news!
Berlingske Tidende (Business Ejendomme) wrote today that Sjælsø Gruppen expect to start construction of Copenhagen Tower already this year!
At the same page there was an article of "Stævnen" the residential project by Sjælsø Gruppen in Ørestad Syd. As the first, they started contructing that last week - even though the market for new residentials have crashed. But Sjælsø believes in new residential projects still - let's hope they're right. So far they have sold 50% of the apartments in the first phase.

Well, back to Copenhagen Tower. They said they had several renters already, including a business hotel, and they believe in the office market.
It also said that they still havn't decided if the building will carry the World Trade Center name or not. They still have the rights to the name in Denmark, but their study showed that the knowledge og the WTC-concept was very low in Denmark, and therefor the project was renamed Copenhagen Towers, but it will still be built after the WTC-concept, and they still have the option to use the WTC Copenhagen name if they wants to. I hope they will, becuse unlike many apparently, I think the WTC name have a of goodwill and a good image - especially international. And international business it would be perfect, and for the city of Copenhagen it would be perfect! As almost all other important cities in the world have a WTC - why not us?!
The reason why the knowledge is low might be because we havn't had one WTC yet, while other contries have had one for decades. Many think only of the Twin towers and 9/11 when they hear WTC here. But someone have to take the first step in changing that.
Well anyway. I still think Copenhagen Tower will be a very vital project for Ørestad City. Looking forward to see the design!!!!

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Thanks for the heads up Urbanus! Interesting article! My girlfriend and I have bought a flat in Stævnen so we were present at the 'setting of the cornerstone' last week and took pictures at the event in case anyone's interested (rather boring pictures obviously, but good food and wine and interesting people to talk to).


Yes, I am at least... :)

I've always associated the WTC "brand" with boring, unimaginative architecture located far from the city centre but close to the airport and filled with office hotels but completely devoid of any real life. My reference is the WTC in Bruxelles (http://www.brussels.wtc.be/V2005/EN/index.html) mostly but I notice that the UK for example has World Trade Centres in such 'prominent' cities as Hull and Cardiff.. hardly cities with which we would want Copenhagen to be compared, eh? (no offense)

Hmmm... There are both good and bad WTCs architecturewise, and it really depends on the city where it's located. In Denver it's in the absolute center of the city and in some nice-looking twin towers. In Montréal and Stockholm they are also centrally located, and in Malmö the new WTC will open in Västra Hamnen.