http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/8264/77rt.jpg

Article and small pic of the entire project in SMH 29 June. Not much detail visible.

sorry for tragic pic, but ook this with phone in newsagent.lol
looks like its an 11storey tower with tall 7 sign.definately over 40m roof.ill have to see DA plans
pretty good.
http://img422.imageshack.us/img422/9250/ch7redfern4tf.jpg

i know its a bad pic but that building looks like crap. Too many 90 degree angles, bloody boring.

^^ well it shits over the rest of the crap that already predominantly exists in redfern...

I don't mind the building but it looks very 'docklands' to me.

I still love redfern towers though.

Boring design & hideous colour scheme...

But it's a good news for Redfern.

There's a couple of tiny renders on the Redfern Waterloo Authority (http://www.redfernwaterloo.nsw.gov.au/) site (see below) and also a PDF of the announcement (http://www.redfernwaterloo.nsw.gov.au/other/premiers_media_rel_280606.pdf). One part of this that really annoys me is that the development includes over 700 parking spaces... better start building motorways to Redfern.

http://www.redfernwaterloo.nsw.gov.au/images/ch7_central_ave.jpg http://www.redfernwaterloo.nsw.gov.au/images/ch7_front_view.jpg

^ ptw are fab architects. this will be fine in redfern.

$150m TV studio for Redfern
Maurice Dunlevy, Development
June 29, 2006
THE Seven Network and its property partner Rebel Property Group will build a $150 million television production and office complex at Sydney's Redfern.

The 43,500sqm facility, planned for the CBD-fringe Australian Technology Park site, will become a state-of-the-art, high-definition television production centre, while the Seven Network's magazine offshoot, Pacific Magazines, will anchor campus-style offices.

Seven will relocate its television production from Epping, in Sydney's north, to the new facility, where programs such as Home and Away and All Saints will be produced.

Pacific Magazines, whose titles include New Idea, marie claire, Better Homes and Gardens, Men's Health and Girlfriend, will relocate its entire McMahon's Point operation to Redfern.

The project will be the biggest venture undertaken by Sydney Broadcast Property, which was formed three years ago by Seven and Rebel Property for the $100 million purchase of the network's Sydney Epping production facility, its then new national broadcast centre at Melbourne's Docklands, and its Adelaide studios.

The Melbourne national broadcast centre and the Adelaide facility have since been sold, but Sydney Broadcast Property retains the Epping facility where a big redevelopment is planned.

Seven and Pacific magazines will lease 18,000sqm of the new Redfern complex for 15 years, leaving the owners with the problem of having to fill some 25,500sqm of space.

But according to Sydney Broadcast Property and Rebel Property director Allen Linz, while there's some risk associated with that, he's confident of finding tenants.

"This has to be one of the largest, if not the largest, private-sector investments in the area and will cement the Australian Technology Park as a hub for television production," Mr Linz said. "We believe it will also be the catalyst to attract a variety of tenants looking for campus-style business accommodation a few kilometres from Sydney's CBD."

The project, due to start at the end of this year, will be completed towards the end of 2008.

It will have a development value of $120 million, but when completed should be worth around $150 million.

Rebel Property Group, a Sydney developer and syndicator, commonly enters joint ventures with other developers.

As well as commercial buildings, the group is also active in the residential market, recently completing an apartment project near Maroubra in Sydney's east worth around $100 million. Through its syndication business, Rebel is a past owner of the Colonial Mutual and Chalice House buildings in Martin Place. Mr Linz said the planned Redfern complex would be a long-term hold for Sydney Broadcast Property, a company that includes private interests.

NSW Premier Morris Iemma said yesterday that the Redfern-Waterloo Authority had signed a heads of agreement with Sydney Broadcast Property.

Mr Iemma said the agreement would generate more than 600 construction jobs and potentially bring more than 2000 permanent jobs to Redfern.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,19623455-25658,00.html

http://www.defacto2.net/x/7.jpg

It looks more like a train station since it's so close to the rail.

looks massive. really will boost the whole area, which it needs.

Its a fantastic and very colorful deisgn. Great to see 7 moving faster then ye old 9 (yipeee)

I didn't realize they were building the set for the Thunderbirds in Redfern?

I am guessing the colours on the buildings are the same ones they used to use for their 7 idents before they went to red?

http://www.finnswebsite.com/7/seven.html

lol Seems to be Ipggi. Looking @ the render in the Fin Rev (same one that Cul took a pic of in the newsagency), it's just the colours of the spectrum graded across the facade.

At least the 7 logo will be lit and office lights will be on as that area @ night is virtually pitch black. Maybe its colourful facade will be floodlit too.

Oz Technology Park has been on the drawing boards since the 80s. Compare this to Darling Harbour which was started around the same era. There is no comparison eh?

Seems the Redfern-Waterloo Authority has some clout afterall. This area has become one of their initiatives.

The design of the building doesn't appear to be exactly boundary-pushing so the colourful façade may help to give it some...er...distinction(?). As Muse says, the area sure could do with some serious 'perking up'.

Well good news for redfurn
Few dozen more projects like this and redfurn might be looking better

Ditto Redfern!

Where is this place called 'Far' that we may already have gone to? Or is it too far?

Not too bad. It sets the ball rolling for the future development of Redfern :)

Well, it's good for Redfern, but what about Epping where Seven is currently located?
Is it okay to benefit Redfern at the expense of other regional centres?

Redfern need a pick and only a large project can do it

Well, it's good for Redfern, but what about Epping where Seven is currently located?
Is it okay to benefit Redfern at the expense of other regional centres?

I don't think the people of Epping/Eastwood will really miss Channel 7 - it's right in the middle of a residental area, so I don't think it really contributes anything.

Epping will be OK esp. from 2008. What an odd place to have studios all these years anyway.

That scabby pice of land from Macdonaldtown to Redfern needs attention. What an embaressment all these years. OK, it's near a major set of train lines with historic buildings being utilised to a degree, but it's not 1940 anymore. Geez.

I found some higher quality versions of the three renders in a media release on the Seven Corporate site (http://www.sevencorporate.com.au/):

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/papervagina/seven1.jpg

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/papervagina/seven2.jpg

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/papervagina/seven3.jpg

thanks. looks good.

What are those white translucent buildings around the Seven?

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/papervagina/seven3.jpg

Projected future building envelopes.

Approved by Frank Sartor!!!!!:D

I want more, i don't think this little plan is fullon enough. Channel 7 looks great but I think the entire vision for the site is a bit boring and small. They should do something with those rail yards.

isnt channel seven in martin place(braodcasting center

Looks to be in the Australian Technology Park. A few office towers are going up in the old railway warehouse yards. Looks Ok, and an easy stroll from the end of platform 10 exit.

isnt channel seven in martin place(braodcasting center

I think Martin Place is just for news and current affairs, whereas Redfern will replace their studios/production stuff, which is currently in Epping. They also have some rather fancy corporate offices in Pyrmont.

I think Martin Place is just for news and current affairs, whereas Redfern will replace their studios/production stuff, which is currently in Epping. They also have some rather fancy corporate offices in Pyrmont.

Your correct. Thats what their offices in Martin Place are for.

I've always wondered why tv studios set up shop on the North Shore.

Makes more sense for them to be closer to the city.

^ Thats because no interruption between railway, phones... etc
Also more discreet and secret location is generally ideal as they need big masts or whatever those things are called and less public access unless its a mainstream show like sunrise. But mainly the interruptions with the system...

anyone know if this has commenced yet?

that's right, he got banned. poor fella, he meant well didn't he? :lol:

I've always wondered why tv studios set up shop on the North Shore.

Makes more sense for them to be closer to the city.

I always thought it was because of the height of the ground. They didn't need to build such big towers to transmit from if they were already 50m up (or whatever it is).

anyone know if this has commenced yet?

It was meant to have started in March and be completed by the end of 2008.

http://www.redfernwaterloo.nsw.gov.au/other/newsletters/february07_newsletter.pdf

I've always wondered why tv studios set up shop on the North Shore.

Makes more sense for them to be closer to the city.
Its amazing how many small production/ editing suits are on the north shore too particulary around crows nest & st.leonards.

Redfern is going to be amazing in 10-20 years. Might buy a place there.

^ you are very optimistic, just don't stray too far out of your gated community. ;)

Redfern-Waterloo Authority (http://www.redfernwaterloo.nsw.gov.au)

PDFs HERE (http://www.redfernwaterloo.nsw.gov.au/publications/reports.htm#bep)

Australian Technology Park (http://www.atp.com.au)


It is estimated that over the next ten years the Plan could facilitate the development of about 400,000 m 2 of employment generating floor space which translates to around 18,000 jobs. About 2000 new dwellings could also be developed.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/Muse11/RedWatMaps.jpg


Australian Technology Park incl. Channel 7 building:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/Muse11/ATP_AA.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/Muse11/ATP_MasterPlanA.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/Muse11/AustTechParkHieghtMap.jpg


2 examples of the many other areas:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/Muse11/RedernStationHeightMap.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/Muse11/NorthEverleighHeightmap.jpg

ATP with masterplan description:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/Muse11/ATP_MaSterPlanB.jpg


New 7 studios @ Redfern (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=367763)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/Muse11/Channel7ATP.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/Muse11/BlackTheatre.jpg

muse, did you want me to merge the ch7 thread with this?

remember this pic from march.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/180/422411312_31f8e7ce00_b.jpg

muse, did you want me to merge the ch7 thread with this?Uhm, no not necessarily. That is one building out of the whole area and I put a link to the Channel 7 thread (even though that has ATP material in it too).

I realised the initial Redfern-Waterloo Authority thread is dead & its website has extensive updated material since its first website of one page a couple of years ago. It all covers so much if you click on the links in the first post. I only posted a small sample of the amount of pertinent material like the height maps.

Should be a lot happening over the next 10 years in the area if all goes accordingly.

i think the 18 storey max height limit for that stretch near the station is ridiculous, they are kidding themselves. most of the overall height limits are way under that limit. it's one area that should be able to go much higher considering that there are other taller buildings around, especially the houso blocks.

^yes i agree. 18st is crap. Right next to a major station. should be like Chatswood. 50storeys atleast

Especially as this area is shaping up as the southern extension to the CBD, whether the locals like it or not.

It's a start. Who knows what may eventuate in the future. I'll just be glad to see those get done at first, considering the (now ex) TNT Towers are only 11 storeys.

I agree with the problems with the height limits. They have 30 storey housing commission towers in the area. Cannot see why they cannot go for that height at least.

The CBD will have to eventually spill over into Surry Hills and Redfern, and those restrictions will only impede it's development. If Clover needs extra space for the CBD, it's obvious Redfern will provide the space.

In addition to what has been mentioned above, is there no consideration to the fact that in order to limit urban sprawl, which I would assume is a state government aim, we need to increase density within our cities.

The ideal place to increase density is around major transport hubs. Preferably near the CBD so that transport times can be reduced and the CBD can remain vibrant.

This location should be an opportunity to do just that.

It's a start. Who knows what may eventuate in the future. I'll just be glad to see those get done at first, considering the (now ex) TNT Towers are only 11 storeys.

agreed, but that area right next to the station shouldn't be "a good start". once it is built on we'll have 18 storey max buildings for a very very long time where it should have been much much more. it needs to be done right now.

35-40 stories would probably be enough for the interim, though there's unfortunately the airport to consider. :bash:

It just seems to be the way in Sydney that the future is not considered in places like Refern, a perfect opportunity to take cars off the road by packing construction near the train station. Everyone wants their big block of land, unimpeded views and car parking spot.

Anyway, at least Parra and Chatswood are aiming big.

35-40 stories would probably be enough for the interim, though there's unfortunately the airport to consider. :bash:

Redfern is not under the flight path.

^^

Nor is the CBD.

It still of course cannot go higher than approx 300 metresish. (If the council limits didn't exist).

Official turning of the first sod ceremony took place today: completion due for 2009. (Ch 7 News)

great stuff. ill update emporis

Seven Corporate site (http://www.sevencorporate.com.au/):

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/papervagina/seven1.jpg

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/papervagina/seven2.jpg

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/papervagina/seven3.jpg

anyone been out near this project?

Here's an article I only just came across. It's a month or so old but I haven't seen it posted anywhere. I thought this was the closest thread but maybe we need a #Projects: Redfern thread to cover off everything that is happening or going to happen out there including North Eveleigh...

From - http://business.smh.com.au/business/redfern-to-rival-pyrmont-as-a-hub-for-media-20080711-3drp.html

Redfern to rival Pyrmont as a hub for media
Carolyn Cummins Commercial Property Editor
July 12, 2008

REDFERN'S commercial property sector is being expanded with the $200 million development 8 Central Avenue, being undertaken by Rebel Property Group and the Seven Network.

This project is indicative of the growth in the city fringe areas, which is expected to remain strong, despite the weaker outlook for the general commercial property market.

When completed the area will rival that of Pyrmont as a media hub.

The headquarters for Seven, the ABC, Network 10 and Fairfax Media, publisher of the Herald, will remain at Pyrmont. The Nine Network was to move from Willoughby to Moore Park, but changed its mind at the last minute.

Moving to the suburbs and the city fringe is becoming more popular as employers pay lower rents, while giving staff more amenities such as car parking and campus-style, relaxed office space.

The 8 Central Avenue development is 38,000 square metres of net lettable area and comprises an 11-storey media and office complex. The 12,000 sqm of space on the top four floors are now being pre-leased through CB Richard Ellis and Chesterton International.

On completion of the project in early 2010, the rent will be $400 a square metre. Construction is now underway through Watpac Constructions. The anchor tenants, Seven Network, Global Television and Pacific Magazines, will lease in total 25,000 sqm, over the first seven levels of the building, for production studios and offices.

The principal of Rebel, Allen Linz, said the development was already receiving strong interest from a range of media and non-media companies keen to secure large floor plates only 10 minutes from the city and airport by car or public transport.

Research by CBRE has shown that there is a great deal of commercial and residential activity in Redfern. There is an influx of creative services groups and a range of community facilities being developed or re-furbished by the NSW Government and City of Sydney council.

These works include the planned upgrade of Redfern railway station, the 180,000 sqm North Eveleigh redevelopment, the $20 million upgrade of Redfern Oval on Elizabeth Street and the redevelopment of Souths Leagues Club.

CBRE's Oliver Freed said data showed rents were expected to increase 20 per cent over the next year, while prices would show similar growth, as the area continued to be good value compared with other business parks around Sydney.

"The low vacancy rate and rising rents in the CBD have been positive for the suburban and fringe office markets. Many tenants now want to move out of the CBD or move their back office operations to areas like Redfern," Mr Freed said.

In its latest report, CBRE said that across the Sydney metropolitan area there was about 789,000 sqm of suburban office space that was forecast to enter the market from 115 projects. The bulk of that new supply was concentrated in the city fringe region, which represented 30.7 per cent of total supply.

James Wish, of Chesterton International, said that Redfern's commercial property sector had lagged behind the strong price and leasing growth of other city fringe areas, but that was changing with projects such as the Australian Technology Park, which covered about 14 hectares and had more than 1000 people working for a range of organisations from government departments to small computer graphics operators.

The park continues to attract blue-chip tenants, including the Defence Department, the University of Sydney, Hewlett-Packard and Johnson & Johnson.

Seven will be moving from its current facilities at Epping, allowing for the redevelopment of the precinct, while Global will be moving from North Ryde and Pacific Magazines from Milsons Point.

CBRE's Paul Salsano said the report showed that vacancies were also declining in the traditional media area of Pyrmont-Ultimo, hitting an all-time low of 2.8 per cent.

"The fringe of the city has been particularly attractive to larger tenants requiring in excess of 500 sqm of space," Mr Salsano said.

He said competitive rentals were one of the key drawcards for tenants reviewing projects in the city fringe market.

Indicative rents for new space in the Pyrmont-Ultimo area ranged from $450 to $525 gross per sqm, which was significantly below comparable space in the CBD.

The increased tenant demand is being capitalised on by developers such as FKP Property Group, which is in the process of redeveloping the former Crystal House building in Ultimo as The Hub on Harris.

CB Richard Ellis and Tim Green Commercial have been appointed to lease the 2800-sqm project on the corner of Harris and Macarthur streets.

North of the city there has also been a rise in demand for space at St Leonards, Colliers International says.

Tim Fox, executive of investment sales at Colliers International, said he was already seeing the start of overflow movement into the St Leonards area as the high absorption of space in North Sydney pushed up rents and left limited options particularly for smaller tenants.

"There have been three sub-$15 million transactions since the start of 2008 which is on par with 2007 which also had three transactions at this time. I think the increasing demand out of North Sydney combined with the relative value of the market for cashed up private investors will mean activity remains on par this year," Mr Fox said.

"Our records show that 12 freehold commercial transactions were completed in St Leonards in 2007, ranging in price from $1.75 million to $24.5 million, with rates ranging from $3274 sqm to $5307 sqm. This year has seen three sales made in the area." Mr Fox said this included one sale made to an owner-occupier for $3.65 million at 67-69 Nicholson Street. Rates for these sales have ranged from $3900 a sqm to $5954 a sqm.

I thought this was the closest thread but maybe we need a #Projects: Redfern thread to cover off everything that is happening or going to happen out there including North Eveleigh...http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=523517

Here's an article I only just came across. It's a month or so old but I haven't seen it posted anywhere. I thought this was the closest thread but maybe we need a #Projects: Redfern thread to cover off everything that is happening or going to happen out there including North Eveleigh...

From - http://business.smh.com.au/business/redfern-to-rival-pyrmont-as-a-hub-for-media-20080711-3drp.html

Redfern to rival Pyrmont as a hub for media
Carolyn Cummins Commercial Property Editor
July 12, 2008

REDFERN'S commercial property sector is being expanded with the $200 million development 8 Central Avenue, being undertaken by Rebel Property Group and the Seven Network.

This project is indicative of the growth in the city fringe areas, which is expected to remain strong, despite the weaker outlook for the general commercial property market.

When completed the area will rival that of Pyrmont as a media hub.

The headquarters for Seven, the ABC, Network 10 and Fairfax Media, publisher of the Herald, will remain at Pyrmont. The Nine Network was to move from Willoughby to Moore Park, but changed its mind at the last minute.

Moving to the suburbs and the city fringe is becoming more popular as employers pay lower rents, while giving staff more amenities such as car parking and campus-style, relaxed office space.

The 8 Central Avenue development is 38,000 square metres of net lettable area and comprises an 11-storey media and office complex. The 12,000 sqm of space on the top four floors are now being pre-leased through CB Richard Ellis and Chesterton International.

On completion of the project in early 2010, the rent will be $400 a square metre. Construction is now underway through Watpac Constructions. The anchor tenants, Seven Network, Global Television and Pacific Magazines, will lease in total 25,000 sqm, over the first seven levels of the building, for production studios and offices.

The principal of Rebel, Allen Linz, said the development was already receiving strong interest from a range of media and non-media companies keen to secure large floor plates only 10 minutes from the city and airport by car or public transport.

Research by CBRE has shown that there is a great deal of commercial and residential activity in Redfern. There is an influx of creative services groups and a range of community facilities being developed or re-furbished by the NSW Government and City of Sydney council.

These works include the planned upgrade of Redfern railway station, the 180,000 sqm North Eveleigh redevelopment, the $20 million upgrade of Redfern Oval on Elizabeth Street and the redevelopment of Souths Leagues Club.

CBRE's Oliver Freed said data showed rents were expected to increase 20 per cent over the next year, while prices would show similar growth, as the area continued to be good value compared with other business parks around Sydney.

"The low vacancy rate and rising rents in the CBD have been positive for the suburban and fringe office markets. Many tenants now want to move out of the CBD or move their back office operations to areas like Redfern," Mr Freed said.

In its latest report, CBRE said that across the Sydney metropolitan area there was about 789,000 sqm of suburban office space that was forecast to enter the market from 115 projects. The bulk of that new supply was concentrated in the city fringe region, which represented 30.7 per cent of total supply.

James Wish, of Chesterton International, said that Redfern's commercial property sector had lagged behind the strong price and leasing growth of other city fringe areas, but that was changing with projects such as the Australian Technology Park, which covered about 14 hectares and had more than 1000 people working for a range of organisations from government departments to small computer graphics operators.

The park continues to attract blue-chip tenants, including the Defence Department, the University of Sydney, Hewlett-Packard and Johnson & Johnson.

Seven will be moving from its current facilities at Epping, allowing for the redevelopment of the precinct, while Global will be moving from North Ryde and Pacific Magazines from Milsons Point.

CBRE's Paul Salsano said the report showed that vacancies were also declining in the traditional media area of Pyrmont-Ultimo, hitting an all-time low of 2.8 per cent.

"The fringe of the city has been particularly attractive to larger tenants requiring in excess of 500 sqm of space," Mr Salsano said.

He said competitive rentals were one of the key drawcards for tenants reviewing projects in the city fringe market.

Indicative rents for new space in the Pyrmont-Ultimo area ranged from $450 to $525 gross per sqm, which was significantly below comparable space in the CBD.

The increased tenant demand is being capitalised on by developers such as FKP Property Group, which is in the process of redeveloping the former Crystal House building in Ultimo as The Hub on Harris.

CB Richard Ellis and Tim Green Commercial have been appointed to lease the 2800-sqm project on the corner of Harris and Macarthur streets.

North of the city there has also been a rise in demand for space at St Leonards, Colliers International says.

Tim Fox, executive of investment sales at Colliers International, said he was already seeing the start of overflow movement into the St Leonards area as the high absorption of space in North Sydney pushed up rents and left limited options particularly for smaller tenants.

"There have been three sub-$15 million transactions since the start of 2008 which is on par with 2007 which also had three transactions at this time. I think the increasing demand out of North Sydney combined with the relative value of the market for cashed up private investors will mean activity remains on par this year," Mr Fox said.

"Our records show that 12 freehold commercial transactions were completed in St Leonards in 2007, ranging in price from $1.75 million to $24.5 million, with rates ranging from $3274 sqm to $5307 sqm. This year has seen three sales made in the area." Mr Fox said this included one sale made to an owner-occupier for $3.65 million at 67-69 Nicholson Street. Rates for these sales have ranged from $3900 a sqm to $5954 a sqm.

...

ahhh, here it is, thanks muse! i did search, and got all sorts back, but didn't see this one.

I have seen an ad in the SMH commercial property pages for several weeks promoting the sale of the Redfern RSL Club (located behind the TNT Towers) including it's potential for redevelopment. Doesn't get any better than this for any developer.

^ just as long as the timing is right, otherwise it could go to waste! being almost on top of the station, i still think 18 floors for there is too short, but hey, I'm a broken down record. you wait, if it's bought and an 18 floor proposal goes in gold 'ole redwatch are going to scream "inappropriate overdevelopment!".

That part of Redfern is the shopping centre, so there wont be as many residents to deal with.

redwatch's evil against everything is everywhere!

posted by alexg
www.8centralavenue.com.au
http://www.3designarchitect.com/8Central/8central01.jpg

http://www.3designarchitect.com/8Central/8central02.jpg

http://www.3designarchitect.com/8Central/8central03.jpg

http://www.3designarchitect.com/8Central/8central04.jpg

anyone been out near this project?

Two big cranes have now popped up. They also showed progress on Stateline this week and it appears to have reached ground level. I'll caption it.

flying past site today on trian. 2nd crane just out of left
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3071/2886385120_2b7bb3a4e7_b.jpg

New property star on horizon
November 15, 2008
http://business.smh.com.au/business/new-property-star-on-horizon-20081114-6788.html

THE Australian Technology Park at Redfern is to become one of the prime property sales in NSW, after the State Government put it on the market this week.

The Treasurer, Eric Roozendaal, In his speech on the mini-budget on Tuesday, said he was also reviewing the Government's property portfolio, including office buildings, surplus land and commercial real estate in precincts such as Australian Technology Park and Darling Harbour.

The Darling Walk sector of Darling Harbour, which includes the former Sega World, is being redeveloped by Lend Lease as a 64,000 sqm office park for the Commonwealth Bank. The Government is only selling the leasehold, albeit for 99 years, and property agents say the land is not expected to be that attractive for developers such as Lend Lease. One said that it would more likely be bought by a passive, private investor.

A spokesman for Lend Lease declined to comment.

Angus Cooke, of Chesterton International, said the Australian Technology Park was attractive - its feature was the $200 million development of 8 Central Avenue by Rebel Property Group and Seven Network.

He said there had been solid rental and capital growth in the fringe of the CBD as companies looked to save costs by moving out of the more expensive CBD.

The latest research by CB Richard Ellis showed that the suburban fringe market had its fourth consecutive six-month period of rising absorption in the half year to July, following the record level achieved in the six months to July 2006.

The report says that new construction is expected to moderate, after the current cycle reaches a peak this year and into next year. As far as yields are concerned, there is interest in high-quality buildings with solid lease profiles.

"There is now a great deal of activity in Australian Technology Park with Seven, Global Television and Pacific Magazines making the property sale more attractive to potential buyers", Mr Cooke said.

Australian Technology Park covers about 14 hectares, and more than 1000 people work on the site for a range of government and private sector companies.

The park has an established range of blue-chip tenants, including the Defence Department, the University of Sydney, Hewlett Packard and Johnson & Johnson.

The 8 Central Avenue development comprises 38,000 sqm, an 11-storey media and office complex with 12,000 square metres on the top four floors now being pre-leased through CB Richard Ellis and Chesterton International.

When it is completed in early 2010 rents will be $400 a sqm.

Construction is now well underway through Watpac Constructions (NSW). Seven, Global and Pacific Magazines will occupy about 25,000 sqm over seven levels, including production studios and offices.

The principal of Rebel, Allen Linz, said he was seeing great interest from a range of creative services companies keen to secure large floor plates in the development, close to Seven's production facilities.

"We are close to all major transport routes connecting all parts of Sydney and building a state of the art office and studio complex that is close to the highest green building standards in Australia," he said.

The State Government and City of Sydney Council are pumping money into infrastructure in the area. Redfern railway station is being upgraded, there is the 180,000 sqm North Eveleigh redevelopment, $20 million is being spent on upgrading Redfern Oval in Elizabeth Street, and Souths Leagues Club in being redeveloped.

CBRE's data shows rents are expected to increase 20 per cent over the next year, while prices are expected to show similar growth, as the area continues to be good value compared with other business parks around Sydney.

Mr Cooke said CBD tenants now wanted to move their operations to areas such as the Australian Technology Park, which were new premises but cheaper to rent.

Seven will be moving from its current premises at Epping, allowing for the redevelopment of the area, while Global will move from North Ryde, and Pacific Magazines from Milsons Point.

coming into redfern today. i woke on my train blurry eyed about 7am. i spotted the rising core of the ch7 tower bldg. about 20m? looks good., gonna really change the whole feel to the area. will try to get pic.

And I recommend that you get a seat on the upper deck for the photo. Your last photo appears to be from the lower deck which doesnt offer as good views. Tell me if I am wrong.

finally got twin cores pic
today 7am
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3115/3089843771_cd013e6375_b.jpg

god im good
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3237/3098743397_8d3e87fbb2_b.jpg

Great pic!

It definitely is a great vantage point, well done! Lucky it wasn't too hazy.

yeah i thought it was going to be hazy. the windows werent too clean either. is that carringbah in background?

yeah i thought it was going to be hazy. the windows werent too clean either. is that carringbah in background?

Nice shot! Yep, that's Caringbah in the background.

Cul, I like those photos, well done.

What a great commute you have! I'm jealous...

I'm the opposite. I don't envy him at all. I think it takes a special person to spend 3 or so hours a day commuting for a job.

I don't envy him either having done the 4+ hour Blackheath-Edgecliff daily run for a year or more: damn near killed me, so I can only admire his fortitude. I just got fat, bad-tempered, depressed and so completely exhausted I was threatened with hospitalisation. (Mind you, there were a few other factors apart from the commute, but it was that 'what undone' me.)
You're a better man than I, Gunga Din!

and here i was dreaming of getting a place in blackheath and work
from home 3 days a week. You dont recommend it?

I worked 5 days a week, had to be at work by 8 a.m., late aftenoon or evening meetings were not uncommon so it just got too much for me. Some people seem to do it without fuss or pain. Maybe for you commuting only 2 days a week won't be such an eventually relentless ordeal.

Maybe it explains why I am happily living at Zetland now, but there were days up the mountains when it seemed life couldn't get any better...for a while.

If it's your dream, give it a go, as no-one else can make the decision for you. If you have a stable and supportive partner it's much easier, but if you are alone I suggest you make a lot of friends quickly.

jan4
twin cores of ch7 tower at mid centre/left
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1170/3171733024_9769220a41_b.jpg

This morning from flight DJ208

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v28/Fabian/DSCF9362.jpg

gr8 shot fabs. look s about 9 in taller core

The corebox towards the left of my shot from last week has now been removed.

yes, i see this every morning. the other core box should be gone soon.

couldnt find redfern thread.
new DA coming soon for "large" tower south of TNT Towers. sounds interesting.
maybe first of new towers around station zone?

Is that the 18F tower approved for the Redfern RSL site?

? i havnte seen DA yet. didnt know there was one approved

news from cariad
New 10 storey for Redfern http://majorprojects.planning.nsw.gov.au/files/25036/Preliminary%20Assessment.pdf

Is that the 18F tower approved for the Redfern RSL site?

Is it this one?

http://majorprojects.planning.nsw.gov.au/index.pl?action=view_job&job_id=2496

It's a 14 storey tower on top of an existing 4 storey car park - I think it's the car park for the RSL, at 7-9 Gibbon St, Redfern.

There are actually a number of buildings on the planning site. It also mentions a 10 or so storey building at Technology Park too as well as some smaller buildings including a blood bank or something similar

Here is a list of items on Exhibition for CoS area.

http://majorprojects.planning.nsw.gov.au/index.pl?action=search&page_id=&search=&authority_id=547&x=38&y=15

thanks finn, that one is being devlped by kimberley securities (Aspect) . $42mil.

90 regent st = 37.5m
thus added to emporis

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3227/3289260188_01f6c18ee1_o.jpg

7-9 gibbons is even taller at 62m
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3590/3288465467_4aae7321fe_o.jpg

Is it this one?

http://majorprojects.planning.nsw.gov.au/index.pl?action=view_job&job_id=2496

It's a 14 storey tower on top of an existing 4 storey car park - I think it's the car park for the RSL, at 7-9 Gibbon St, Redfern.

OMG talk about a fucked up floorplan. It's one of the worst i have seen. Every entry opens onto the kitchen, the layouts are clumsy and poorly thought out, it's a complete dog's breakfast.

Oh I am glad you thought that too. I had to look for a while to actually find the entry doors, but walking straight into a kitchen .... Hmmm, odd.

The corebox from the other core on the Channel Seven HQ has been removed and the floorplates are around level 6 with another three floors to go.

top floor plate is now being constructed
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3549/3367207122_28db11c57e_o.jpg

one hell of a slab. (cladding is rising fast, just out of photo.)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3540/3419506144_bb4dfbbc34_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3654/3446028982_e3b980004a_b.jpg

I think you win the my camera is better than yours award Cul.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/emerbot/IMG_2071.jpg

The cladding is being placed mighty fast. It seems that the top of the liftcores has shrunk too. You cannot make them out even though the floorplates have not gone up since last week.

love the colours
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3563/3506735316_468eecbbf2_b.jpg

I was on the train today and tried to have a peek at it, but couldnt see the cladding at this stage, to find out how far it's gone up.

90 regent st = 37.5m
thus added to emporis

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3227/3289260188_01f6c18ee1_o.jpg

7-9 gibbons is even taller at 62m
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3590/3288465467_4aae7321fe_o.jpg

looks very simular to the apartment building currently u/c in campbell street parramatta

Only three floors need to be cladded on the Seven Headquarters. Saw this on the train during the week.

Just one office floor left to be clad plus the plantroom.

RSL project @ 157 Redfern Street, cnr Gibbons.
NSW Planning On Exhibition

http://majorprojects.planning.nsw.gov.au/index.pl?action=view_job&job_id=3025

It even takes into account possible metro lines that could run under Redfern at any point in the future.

Cannot say much on the design but will be a welcome addition in the area. Well positioned right opposite the station.

Looks like the kind of design Meriton would love...

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/papervagina/Redfern-RSL-1.jpg

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/papervagina/Redfern-RSL-2.jpg

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/papervagina/Redfern-RSL-3.jpg

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/papervagina/Redfern-RSL-4.jpg

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/papervagina/Redfern-RSL-5.jpg

Yeah, it's pretty average, but that's a start...

It's OK, but the building would look better with an architectural feature rather than a flat roof.

While it's not exactly 'cutting edge' - a term Meriton cheerfully and without a trace of irony applies to its own buildings! - it is a cut above your average Meriton with the variations in façade treatment and the shift in between the podium and the tower, though I'm a bit anxious about all that yellow. Note the height: it's taller than the former TNT twins.

Note the height: it's taller than the former TNT twins.

And it generally obscures the big blank face of one of the towers - something I never expected would happen!

looks ok
will add to skyline
july15
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2507/3723685408_3be63fdbce_b.jpg

took this yesterday
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3535/3872495754_cc7cdd570f_o.jpg

Cannot wait for the developments to take off. I was at the international terminal recently and the new Channel Seven HQ tower dominates the skyline around Redfern.

It will be a really good addition to the CBD. If you can call it that. I think thats what they wanted, a larger CBD around Redfern etc.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2444/3970261697_760a2b3294_o.jpg

see this one when i come into uni on the train.... have to say im not a fan

But that's the back side right? Front side may look better?

I love its size.
I love the way it imposes itself.
I love the precedent it sets.

Design? A definate loss for this area of Sydney.

But that's the back side right? Front side may look better?

Well designed buildings don't have a 'front' and a 'back' per se, they look great from all angles.

I think it looks okay, just a bit of a boring office block. Come to think of it, it actually looks like a well designed...multi-storey parking structure ;)

At least its better than the TNT Towers and the Housing Commission blocks that line the suburb.

BUMP.

ATP - Channel 7 Building Community Information Meeting - Tuesday 15th December 6pm
— filed under: Community Meeting
A community information meeting is being held so that local residents, ATP tenants and businesses can find out about the arrival of Channe7 and its partner companies, and how the building and surrounding area will operate. The meeting is organised by the RWA & ATP. The Channel 7 building, 8 Central Ave in the Australian Technology Park is in its final stages of completion. Channel 7, Pacific Magazines and Global Television will relocate their offices to the new site in early 2010.

ALL WELCOME

From REDWATCH website

So that means Global Television are moving out their North Ryde site as well (where channel 10 was originally located and producers of Australian Idol). Thats another bonus as well.

I have noticed as well that buildings on the site of the old North Eveleigh railyards are in the process of being demolished towards the western part of the site.

Has the Mobbs Lane Carlo site been abandoned?

It's been redeveloped into housing. The only use it had in recent times was to act as a production facility for Seven Network shows such as Home and Away and Packed to The Rafters.

So that means Global Television are moving out their North Ryde site as well (where channel 10 was originally located and producers of Australian Idol). Thats another bonus as well.

I have noticed as well that buildings on the site of the old North Eveleigh railyards are in the process of being demolished towards the western part of the site.

The North Ryde site is long gone- demolished a few years back. Aust Idol and others have been filmed by Global at Fox Studios for the last few years.

Didn't know that

Channel Seven had a report on the closure of the Mobbs Lane production studios. Many including TV personalities are sad to be leaving, but it's a good time to move.

People wont notice the move at all.

There's a couple of tiny renders on the Redfern Waterloo Authority (http://www.redfernwaterloo.nsw.gov.au/) site (see below) and also a PDF of the announcement (http://www.redfernwaterloo.nsw.gov.au/other/premiers_media_rel_280606.pdf). One part of this that really annoys me is that the development includes over 700 parking spaces... better start building motorways to Redfern.

http://www.redfernwaterloo.nsw.gov.au/images/ch7_central_ave.jpg http://www.redfernwaterloo.nsw.gov.au/images/ch7_front_view.jpg
Channel 7, Pacific Magazines and Global TV have just moved in.....the building looks fine!

It's a good building. I was looking at the final product from the train this morning. Looks good.

I have seen an ad in the SMH commercial property pages for several weeks promoting the sale of the Redfern RSL Club (located behind the TNT Towers) including it's potential for redevelopment. Doesn't get any better than this for any developer.
I'm sure that the Redfern RSL is to be developed by the RSL itself as an 18 storey residential tower with the refurbished club and commercial space underneath. The carpark site to the south is also earmarked for a 18 storey building developement as per the Redfern Waterloo built environment plan.

^^ It's a good approach for clubs. RACV couldn't get a combined office tower/hotel function centre so built there own.

This is it here, was approved on 22/12/2009

http://majorprojects.planning.nsw.gov.au/index.pl?action=view_job&job_id=3025

I thought it was time to check out the Australian Technology Park!


NICTA office building. Very nice looking!

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/804/redfernnicta01.jpg

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/8409/redfernnicta02.jpg

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/7046/redfernnicta03.jpg


Bioedical Centre. So-so looking...

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/1038/redfernmedical01.jpg

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/7066/redfernmedical02.jpg


Channel 7. It looks massive from the street level. The podium & entrance to the building looks average though.

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/3902/redfernseven01.jpg

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/476/redfernseven02.jpg

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/7965/redfernseven03.jpg

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/9440/redfernseven04.jpg

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/1469/redfernseven05.jpg


Random photos inside the park:

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/1345/redfernother01.jpg

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/2797/redfernother02.jpg

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/8630/redfernother03.jpg

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/3769/redfernother04.jpg

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/4764/redfernother05.jpg


I have to say I was kinda disappointed by the overall development. It looked very suburban, very spacious, very lifeless, no active street frontage what so ever and a lot of car park space... It's segragated from the rest of Redfern area by a large park. Oh well.

On the other hand, these things don't suddenly become hives of activity; it takes time for a new environment to establish, cf, Victoria Park which is gradually gaining more life. Sometimes it's busy other times it's quiet.
Thank you for the pics. Even though I'm within walking distance I didn't know so much construction had taken place and I'm relieved some of the buildings look quite interesting.

Maybe it's lifeless because it's a wasted opportunity and a weak attempt. It should have been way bigger considering it's location near a major train station and proximity to the CBD.

Yes, it should have been a much more significant development, but given the End of Civilization brouhaha that was unleashed against any proposal above 3m it's a small miracle they got as much as they did. Suddenly the warring chaos that was Redfern became a sacred site, our special place, a village of loving souls.
Yawn.
Everyone wants development, but somewhere else. It's called 'Nimbyism' and it comes in a wearyingly diverse range of colours and sometimes from unexpected quarters.

any action out redfern way?

Nah, it's been a while since there was a riot. I did see a dude brutally bashed though not long ago.

i mean construction wise?

large tower crane now behind tnt towers. is this for 7 gibbons st/18storey tower?

Also they have been installing a huge Satellite Dish atop the Channel Seven Studios.

I take the crane was installed over the weekend. I didn't notice it during last week.

large tower crane now behind tnt towers. is this for 7 gibbons st/18storey tower?

That's the RSL redevelopment.

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/papervagina/Redfern-RSL-1.jpg

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/papervagina/Redfern-RSL-2.jpg

wow, very cool. finally another highrise in redfern! this will be about as high as TNT?

7AM
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4077/4930075127_6dc1bf2915_o.jpg

new DA in for 153 George street
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4151/5010366829_184bd6bace_b.jpg

What is it? It looks like a penitentiary!

lol. units i think

The new Channel Seven studios feature as the hospital in 'Packed to the Rafters'.

The 18 storey/71m 7-9 Gibbons Street (right behind the RSL tower you see a few posts above this one) was approved a few weeks ago. Designed by Candalepas Associates, it looks quite different to that seen in the elevations posted earlier in this thread:

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/papervagina/9-GibbonsStreet-Redfern-1.jpg

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/papervagina/9-GibbonsStreet-Redfern-2.jpg

http://majorprojects.planning.nsw.gov.au/index.pl?action=view_job&job_id=2496

^^
Boring design!!

Is it the one u/c?

the white one with balconies is the one UC.

Pic 2: isn't the white one on the left/front the RSL project while 9 Gibbons St is the Candalepas designed tower behind it? Or not?

That is correct, Brizer.

It's just ridiculous that these towers are all under 20 storeys and right on Redfern station. BS town planning at it's best!

7-9 Gibbons Street looks uninspiring. Makes me think of the apartment towers built in the 1960's.

Oh, dear, Misery Matt is at it again. There is no story nomatter how positive that he cannot turn into Bad News.

This project is not news - it's been available information for a couple of years. This is simply the next stage of a rebuilding of nasty, run-down, mostly 1950s Housing Commission units, with better design, more apartments/houses but a better environment. The first blocks at Phillip/Walker/Moorehead/Kettle streets were completed late last year and if you weren't told, you wouldn't know they were public housing.

Since when did most of Redfern, especially the area opposite Redfern Park, become 'crowded'?
And why is the guess of a local (qualifications?) gospel but official information automatically misleading?

How about the good news: more people on the housing list will get homes.

Count the contradictions within the text.

Sloppy job.

Poor journalism.

Predictable from Misery Matt.

Crowded Redfern to spread its wings
Matthew Moore
February 5, 2011

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii149/brizer_foto/Redfern/KettleMooreheadPhillipWalkerProject_feb11.jpg
Makeover ... Kettle Street now, above, and the proposed plans, below.

THE number of homes on public land in Redfern and Waterloo will double under plans to radically change the area with the largest concentration of social housing in the inner city.

Proposals just published by the Redfern-Waterloo Authority will lead to many of the three-story apartment blocks dotted across 33 hectares being replaced with blocks four, six and eight storeys high.

And much of the open space that surrounds existing social housing developments will be used for infill development under the plans that will reshape the area over the next 20-25 years.

Advertisement: Story continues below Residents in the suburbs have just been advised of the plans, set out in a swag of documents available on the internet.

Summaries provided to residents say the plans ''could result in approximately 3500 additional dwellings in the whole Redfern and Waterloo area'', many of which will be private homes built on what is now public land.

The documents say the authority wants to break down the heavy concentration of social housing and create communities that are more mixed, in keeping with the philosophy that guides Housing NSW.

''The aim is to achieve a mix of 60 per cent private and affordable housing dwellings and 40 per cent social housing to encourage a thriving and sustainable community,'' the documents say.

While they do not spell out how this mix will be achieved, it is likely many smaller public housing blocks will be sold to developers who will replace them with new private housing developments with much higher density.

There are 4300 social housing dwellings in the area, or 44 per cent of the total, although the documents say that number will fall to 2800 plus 700 affordable housing dwellings where lower-paid workers have subsided rent.

The authority has promised that social housing tenants who are relocated will be rehoused elsewhere within the City of Sydney.

Many of the low-rise buildings will go, but the high-rise towers will remain.

''As the current economic life of high-rise towers buildings is generally about 30 years or more, it is anticipated that these buildings will be retained for some time,'' it says.

But with many of the apartments in these towers run down, the plan says there is ''real potential'' for them to be renovated so they blend better with more upmarket private housing planned for the area.

Geoff Turnbull of the local community group REDWatch said he supported the thrust of the changes and there was no doubt that higher-density development would improve the area.

But after poring over the documents, he believed the plans were for a much higher density than had been proposed by the City of Sydney.

''The authority has requested to increase density by 35 per cent more than City of Sydney wants. The density over what's there is for an extra 3500 units, which is doubling the density that's already there.''

He said it was difficult to judge the plan because the authority's rules provided for ''predominant height'', which allows an eight-storey building, for example, to be 12 storeys high on 20 per cent of a development site.

''There needs to be some increase in density - we don't have a problem with that - but the issue is what happens to public space and amenity, and we are not convinced 35 per cent above City of Sydney is right.''

Public meetings will be held over the next month while the plans are on display but Mr Turnbull said more time was needed to consider such radical changes.

^ And by "affordable housing" they mean your favourite - City West!

If the CityWest design quality matches that of the recently completed block at Phillip Street, etc., I'll be happy.

It is a good concept overall to see private development alongside the public development. It will go a long way to addressing the social stereotypes that sadly exist in Redfern.

That combined with commerical development closer to the station gives Redfern a sense of hope but also the revitialisation that has been too long coming.

been 4 months since last update?
time for fly by photo
7am this morning
2 floors are done 2more in core
http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/8278/p1040348h.jpg

They have begun advertising apartments in the tower. There was a colourful advert in the SMH Domain Section last Saturday (28/5/2011).

It should be there again tomorrow.

4weeks old areial
http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/6853/redfernmay16.jpg

the tower planned
pic by papervag
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/papervagina/9-GibbonsStreet-Redfern-2.jpg

7am this morning.
wonder why there not constructing a core box? never seen that before. sort of like open air platform with no sides?

http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/6403/p1000086g.jpg

Peri system being used for jumpform so not your standard jump box

thanks

Recent shot by Lijman

http://i546.photobucket.com/albums/hh423/lijman/Sydney%20skylines/081283d6.jpg
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=518412&page=120

7am this morning
http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/4701/p1000196p.jpg

Incredibly good progress. Keep flying up. :)

yeah i think its going to eventually reach height of 60m TNT towers?

drivin past today
http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/2853/p1000218yn.jpg

7am today from country platforms
core now level with TNTs roof

http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/93/p1000268i.jpg

the RSL tower will evntually equal heigth of TNT towers which is 200ft./60m
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/papervagina/Redfern-RSL-2.jpg

At least now the GCA buildings won't look as ugly sitting there by themselves.

some pics i took today in the afternoon around 3.20pm

http://i55.tinypic.com/dm795c.jpg

http://i52.tinypic.com/mc832o.jpg

http://i52.tinypic.com/6f9j5l.jpg

ta for pics, pity we cant see anything except shit load of scaffold. thanks to new rules/reg brought in a few years back.

It's just ridiculous that these towers are all under 20 storeys and right on Redfern station. BS town planning at it's best!

This comment is ancient but I totally agree. No other station apart from Central has as much access to each city-rail line and we're building these medium hight buildings right next to it?

20 storeys is quite good when compared to 10 storey towers that seem to be the norm around there.

It is projects like this that actually bring more highrise development. Someone builds a 20 storey tower, and others are bound to follow.

As posted by Brizer

Meanwhile just across the road & replacing some particularly charmless Housing Commission blocks from the 1950s/'60s will be:-

600 Elizabeth Street, Redfern, Housing NSW:

Architect: Group GSA Architects

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii149/brizer_foto/Redfern%20600%20Elizabeth%20Housg%20NSW/SEcornerfromWalkerSt.jpg

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii149/brizer_foto/Redfern%20600%20Elizabeth%20Housg%20NSW/NWcornerfromElizabethst.png

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii149/brizer_foto/Redfern%20600%20Elizabeth%20Housg%20NSW/NEcornerfromKettleSt.jpg

Not great architecture but a great improvement on what's there and on the standard - or lack of standard - we're used to in public housing.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1138889&page=165

Some model shots.

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/5527/img3496b.jpg
By fabianamuso (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/fabianamuso) at 2011-10-30

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/765/img3495m.jpg
By fabianamuso (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/fabianamuso) at 2011-10-30

rsl tower now higher then tnt towers

Taken yesterday:

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/1103/redfern1.jpg

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/728/redern2.jpg

thanks, looks rather large. shit load of scaffold

Thanks for shifting those images to the right thread, Fabian; I actually did a quick look for it but in my haste missed it, obviously.

thanks, looks rather large. shit load of scaffold

I was changing trains at Sydenham last week and the building is quite bulky when compared to the TNT Towers.

its now another floor higher. really is alot higher then TNT towers, really impressive

Those photos confirm that too.

Does anyone know when we get to see what is underneath the scaffolding?

Cannot say. The entire exterior would have to be complete before the scaffholding can come down.

November 11 2011

You can see this all the way from Barangaroo. :)

http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/1172/img4228h.jpg
By fabianamuso (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/fabianamuso) at 2011-11-11

November 18 2011

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/3529/img4527ih.jpg
By fabianamuso (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/fabianamuso) at 2011-11-18

http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/813/img4526t.jpg
By fabianamuso (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/fabianamuso) at 2011-11-18

ta for pics, pity we cant see anything except shit load of scaffold. thanks to new rules/reg brought in a few years back.

what are those rules and why on some buildings they use scaffold and others they dont

it came in a few years back. i think OH&S plus privacy. most sites have to now. if you dont you have to have good reason or pay fines.$$
great pic fab. looks imposing from central.

height to LMR=96mRL
grd=28.5m
height above grd-67.5m
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7025/6391509915_b7495c4fab_b.jpg

November 25 2011

http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/5859/img4532r.jpg
By fabianamuso (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/fabianamuso) at 2011-11-25

Closeup of core

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/8263/img4531c.jpg
By fabianamuso (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/fabianamuso) at 2011-11-25

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/2937/img4528u.jpg
By fabianamuso (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/fabianamuso) at 2011-11-25

http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/2169/img4529s.jpg
By fabianamuso (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/fabianamuso) at 2011-11-25

big.. is a tower of similare size proposed just south of rsl tower?

^^
Yes, right next to it.

That tower was approved recently by Planning NSW. :)

thanks, just looked up plans.this one is approx height of rsl tower. been reduced slightly.
95mRl-26mRL= 69m.
https://majorprojects.affinitylive.com/public/bf7ee904353581001b1569f6f84db345/DA200[A]%20101208.pdf

nice wall going up
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7024/6415087181_151dabfc88_b.jpg

Design has changed, too. Also architect?

I wish it was a little taller so it could stand out a little and avoid a height ceiling. The facade along the Gibbons Street side is lovely. :)

Design has changed, too. Also architect?

Yes. According to the document Cul posted, the architects are now Nordon Jago (http://www.nordonjago.com/) - the same people who designed the building next door. I think the original design was done by Candalepas.

Good choice

December 2 2011

http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/6672/img4857a.jpg
By fabianamuso (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/fabianamuso) at 2011-12-02

Yes. According to the document Cul posted, the architects are now Nordon Jago (http://www.nordonjago.com/) - the same people who designed the building next door. I think the original design was done by Candalepas.

The tower is called: Urba

Here's a photo that i took a month or two ago, showing a poster advertising it, on the site of the project....

http://i41.tinypic.com/1oa828.jpg

urban minus the N. cute. www.urbaredfern.com.au

December 21 2011

http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/3387/img5514p.jpg
By fabianamuso (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/fabianamuso) at 2011-12-21

yesterday
http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/1843/p1000880xb.jpg

Student Housing project on Cleveland St: https://majorprojects.affinitylive.com/public/15af03bbd3d911430388514bc4b079cd/Appendix%20D%20-%20Statement%20of%20Heritage%20Impact.pdf

proposed design is designed to
"respect or enhance the heritage significance of the nearby items and adjoining conservation area"
as it
"permits the retention of the principal facade elements of the former factory / warehouse buildings to Cleveland Street and Hart Street which reflect the former industrial uses of the site and the Inter War architectural character adopted for the facades of industrial complexes."

http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n554/beastben/Screenshot2012-02-07at83530PM.png
proposed design: view on cleveland st

http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n554/beastben/Screenshot2012-02-07at83544PM.png
view on hart st (i don't know if a blank rear wall with hiding places every 20m is such a great idea for this part of sydney)

http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n554/beastben/Screenshot2012-02-07at84100PM.png
the factory it replaces (if approved)

Most things would be an improvement on that warehouse, its pretty bland...

urba is happening!

I took this picture on tuesday showing scaffolding erected around the carpark. Looks like demolition is going to start soon.

http://i39.tinypic.com/e8u1w3.jpg

Fantastic. As one finishes, another begins.

With the student housing at Cleveland Street, a model can be viewed at Planning NSW offices in Bridge Street. :)

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/2937/img4528u.jpg
By fabianamuso (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/fabianamuso) at 2011-11-25




I was at Redfern station yesterday. This building is VERY imposing indeed. I'm very impressed.

February 17 2012

The scaffholding is starting to come down. :)

http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/344/img6377w.jpg
By fabianamuso (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/fabianamuso) at 2012-02-18

yes the top floor is now unveiled

last week
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/7472/p1000931h.jpg

It's become such a commanding structure now. Do any of you notice that when you look at Redfern, it's this building that catches your eyes? No longer will the TNT Towers draw my attention.

That was something that was desperately needed!

I just think its nice that they are taking the construction of highrise seriously in Redfern these days. There has been alot of focus on the development of the former railyards/Australian Technology Park which has bought more workers and activity into Redfern.

7am this morning

http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/4668/p1000946ta.jpg

flying back today from coolnagatta

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7044/6809379010_303cd99070_b.jpg

Great pic, thanks.

Cul that is fucking fantastic ^^

Redfern (right of image) Posted by SBX. The removal of scaffholding has now revealed another floor. :)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/47420026@N02/6971542903/in/photostream

http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/2858/img1022mx.jpg

Now visible from Balls Head... just!

How much taller will the core get?

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=522753&page=79

March 23 2012

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By fabianamuso (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/fabianamuso) at 2012-03-23

It looks like you can walk to the airport in that pic.

^^ Woah Fabs that shot really threw me! I sat there for like a minute until I figured it was World Tower I was looking at! Looks very Hong Kong there!

April 5 2012

Looking nice. :)

http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/6475/img7420f.jpg
By fabianamuso (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/fabianamuso) at 2012-04-06

yesterday
http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/9717/p1010125w.jpg

Nice, am I right in saying there is another tower planned for next door for the same height? Do we know when that will get built?

yes its called urba www.urbaredfern.com.au
starting very soon
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7024/6415087181_151dabfc88_b.jpg

Who's the builder on this one?

Thanks Cul!

taken 2 days ago on tuesday,...

old carpark on the urba site is now raised to the ground.

shouldnt be too long before they start excavating

http://oi40.tinypic.com/2dv03t4.jpg

http://i42.tinypic.com/1075ms0.jpg

http://oi42.tinypic.com/ohv2oi.jpg

Just out of curiosity... Are those two towers in the second last picture public housing, and how tall are they?

Just out of curiosity... Are those two towers in the second last picture public housing, and how tall are they?
Yeah they are. All the ugly tall soviet style apartments in that area are public housing. Not sure how tall they are though.

If i had my way, i would knock them all down, and get rid of all public housing in redfern and waterloo, and build new public housing buildings out in campbelltown and mountdruitt areas to accomodate the occupants who have to move.

redfern has so much potential being on the doorstep of the city, instead of being a welfare recipient socio-economic suburb. I walk through redfern often when going to and from work, and I am constantly asked by junkies for spare change, and see low uncouth people shouting, swearing and loitering around the shops . They really need to clean that place up. These developments are definately helping to start a change in the demographic for the positive.

Yeah they are. All the ugly tall soviet style apartments in that area are public housing. Not sure how tall they are though.

If i had my way, i would knock them all down, and get rid of all public housing in redfern and waterloo, and build new public housing buildings out in campbelltown and mountdruitt areas to accomodate the occupants who have to move.

redfern has so much potential being on the doorstep of the city, instead of being a welfare recipient socio-economic suburb. I walk through redfern often when going to and from work, and I am constantly asked by junkies for spare change, and see low uncouth people shouting, swearing and loitering around the shops . They really need to clean that place up. These developments are definately helping to start a change in the demographic for the positive.

It shows the failure of welfare policies. Making people dependent.

Yeah they are. All the ugly tall soviet style apartments in that area are public housing. Not sure how tall they are though.

If i had my way, i would knock them all down, and get rid of all public housing in redfern and waterloo, and build new public housing buildings out in campbelltown and mountdruitt areas to accomodate the occupants who have to move.

redfern has so much potential being on the doorstep of the city, instead of being a welfare recipient socio-economic suburb. I walk through redfern often when going to and from work, and I am constantly asked by junkies for spare change, and see low uncouth people shouting, swearing and loitering around the shops . They really need to clean that place up. These developments are definately helping to start a change in the demographic for the positive.

There have been plans to knock them down, and replace them with newer and shorter buildings.

Just out of curiosity... Are those two towers in the second last picture public housing, and how tall are they?

Yes they are public housing, and they are 97 metres tall. Tallest public housing buildings in Australia.

The facade of one of Redfern's tallest is revealed..
http://www.flickr.com/photos/47420026@N02/

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/7163/img1818b.jpg

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/1102/img1771z.jpg

nice, i love the twin towers at waterloo. good design good location rising from park. very futuristic concept

I like it alot and I'm impressed with its dominance over the TNT Towers. :)