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ishtefh_03 June 29th, 2006, 04:30 AM architecture in asia is one of the best!!! especially those that is traditional...
Modernization June 29th, 2006, 04:45 AM stunning pics! :banana:
duskdawn June 30th, 2006, 02:21 AM Homesick~~~ :cry:
Principes July 1st, 2006, 08:37 AM i love ancient asian architecture looks unique
Little City July 14th, 2006, 10:40 AM Thai Architecture
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Manila-X August 1st, 2006, 09:28 AM Guilin has some nice looking pagodas :)
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Slartibartfas August 21st, 2006, 08:08 PM Can anyone tell me, if there still exist places somewhere in China or at least in Asia, where one can see not only singular sights of traditional Asian architecture (which I find allready amazing enough), but whole "ensembles" it?
I mean something comparable to most of the European cities, but in an Asian way. Not small rundown cities, who simply could not afford to tear down their old buildings yet to replace it by skyscrapers, but an ensemble, a quarter that shows how large and proud cities (or even better city centers) have looked like before modern architecture conquered the whole world.
If such a thing exists I would love to see pics of an example.
duskdawn August 21st, 2006, 08:23 PM Can anyone tell me, if there still exist places somewhere in China or at least in Asia, where one can see not only singular sights of traditional Asian architecture (which I find allready amazing enough), but whole "ensembles" it?
I mean something comparable to most of the European cities, but in an Asian way. Not small rundown cities, who simply could not afford to tear down their old buildings yet to replace it by skyscrapers, but an ensemble, a quarter that shows how large and proud cities (or even better city centers) have looked like before modern architecture conquered the whole world.
If such a thing exists I would love to see pics of an example.
You mean this?
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=386290
Slartibartfas August 22nd, 2006, 05:01 PM You mean this?
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=386290
Yes, thats an amazing example. Thank you very much for sharing the link with me.
It seems to me that the traditional Chinese architecture was to a large extend wood based. There are example of this in some European cities too (esepcially in Scandinavia), allthough more commonly there was a mixture of wood and , ie timberframed houses (at least in the German speakins sphere, during the medieval age).
Normally our architecture heavily relied on stones of all kind though. It seems yours not, at least if that small town is representative for larger ones. That leads me to the question I would be keen to get the answer to.
Is there anywhere a larger town to find with a ensemble of traditional architecture? It does not need to have that amazing river atmosphere, if that makes the search for it easier.
I mean the Chinese empire has such a giant history, and a country of that size must have had impressing huge cities with large architecture of grandeur in whole city quarters and centers. What happened to them? Have they become victims of the communist modernisation and industrialisation, or victims of the fast uprise duringthe last decades (ie making place for skyscrapers)? Or perhaps they have been destroyed in WWII? Or do they still exist in certain cases?
duskdawn August 22nd, 2006, 07:35 PM ^^ Very good question.
As far as I know, it is very hard to find a large city of traditional architectures anymore. The exceptions are like Lijiang, Fenghuang and Pingyao etc. They are hottest travel spots due to the old styles preseved very well within the town.
In many historical cities like Xi'an etc, the old city walls and some building remained.But the majority of the old buildings have been replaced. I don't relate this to communists. It is just pure modernization. It is almost impossible to lead a modern life (electrocity and gas etc) in the old architects and furnitures. And the old buidlings took too much space, not as efficient as skyscrapers.
China needs to preserve some hitorical spots, but the larger scale of the nation is under modernization.
That's just my opinion. Hope you can get any insight from other people. :)
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Ohno August 23rd, 2006, 05:38 AM ^^
Beautiful, another style of asian architecture.
Slartibartfas August 23rd, 2006, 09:54 PM ^^ Very good question.
As far as I know, it is very hard to find a large city of traditional architectures anymore. The exceptions are like Lijiang, Fenghuang and Pingyao etc. They are hottest travel spots due to the old styles preseved very well within the town.
In many historical cities like Xi'an etc, the old city walls and some building remained.But the majority of the old buildings have been replaced. I don't relate this to communists. It is just pure modernization.:)
Thank you for your response. China is so far away from Europe, its so different, I really appreciate to hear the opinions of someone from there.
From my perspective its a pitty that you sacrifice your architectonical heritage on your way to a better life. But I can understand your point of view. Old architecture with bad infrastructure does not give you jobs, or the perspective of having the pleassures of modernity. It does not edcuate nor attract high tech companies etc. Its modern infrastructure that does.
And you might be right indeed when not relating it to communism. In fact its modernification that you could also find in the western world at least as often
And of course it would be really hard to explain how eg the city of Prague managed to look that amazing after about 45 years of communism otherwise.
It is almost impossible to lead a modern life (electrocity and gas etc) in the old architects and furnitures. And the old buidlings took too much space, not as efficient as skyscrapers.
I dont know what your tradtional architecture featured in specific, but if it was comparable to ours, i have to disagree on this. I guess we can agree on the point that cities like Paris, London, Vienna and co are modern cities with all the advantages that the modernity brings with it. Nonetheless you will find an seemingly never ending sea of historical buildings. Not that you dont find modern buildings there, but the presence of historical substance is still massive, especially the nearer you get to the center.
Have a look at Vienna: (ok that pic is really off topic, but I hope you apologize)
http://www.prombau.at/image/habe47.jpg
Yes those buildings from the Viennese periphery are not the oldest ones, but still built before "modernism" was invented. Nonetheless they feature all the stuff people wanna have. No single person would today by an apartment without electricity, water or something else of that importance lacking. And still, in the baroque inner city today live above 18.000 people. And to be more precise those 18.000 are mostly belonging to the wealthier people here. They certainly have high expectations, that are nonetheless satisfied by those nearly 400 years old buildings. No question, those buildings are adopted to the modern worlds achievements, but that does not need to destroy them or change their appearance nor substance too drastically.
One has not to tear the old substance down to modernize. But keeping the old heritage alive on a broad basis, might be a luxury the Chinese people are not willing to pay for. Many European cities were willing to do so though and they have proven that it is possible to connect the pleassures of modernity with the pleassure of traditioial architecture.
What I would be interested though is, if Europe is really that much of an excemption? I mean, does modernisation everywhere else in the world mean the destruction of the architectural heritage apart from single major sights?
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YelloPerilo August 28th, 2006, 12:28 PM Thank you for your response. China is so far away from Europe, its so different, I really appreciate to hear the opinions of someone from there.
From my perspective its a pitty that you sacrifice your architectonical heritage on your way to a better life. But I can understand your point of view. Old architecture with bad infrastructure does not give you jobs, or the perspective of having the pleassures of modernity. It does not edcuate nor attract high tech companies etc. Its modern infrastructure that does.
And you might be right indeed when not relating it to communism. In fact its modernification that you could also find in the western world at least as often
And of course it would be really hard to explain how eg the city of Prague managed to look that amazing after about 45 years of communism otherwise.
I dont know what your tradtional architecture featured in specific, but if it was comparable to ours, i have to disagree on this. I guess we can agree on the point that cities like Paris, London, Vienna and co are modern cities with all the advantages that the modernity brings with it. Nonetheless you will find an seemingly never ending sea of historical buildings. Not that you dont find modern buildings there, but the presence of historical substance is still massive, especially the nearer you get to the center.
Have a look at Vienna: (ok that pic is really off topic, but I hope you apologize)
http://www.prombau.at/image/habe47.jpg
Yes those buildings from the Viennese periphery are not the oldest ones, but still built before "modernism" was invented. Nonetheless they feature all the stuff people wanna have. No single person would today by an apartment without electricity, water or something else of that importance lacking. And still, in the baroque inner city today live above 18.000 people. And to be more precise those 18.000 are mostly belonging to the wealthier people here. They certainly have high expectations, that are nonetheless satisfied by those nearly 400 years old buildings. No question, those buildings are adopted to the modern worlds achievements, but that does not need to destroy them or change their appearance nor substance too drastically.
One has not to tear the old substance down to modernize. But keeping the old heritage alive on a broad basis, might be a luxury the Chinese people are not willing to pay for. Many European cities were willing to do so though and they have proven that it is possible to connect the pleassures of modernity with the pleassure of traditioial architecture.
What I would be interested though is, if Europe is really that much of an excemption? I mean, does modernisation everywhere else in the world mean the destruction of the architectural heritage apart from single major sights?
I understand you too well, but many Chinese won't share your opion, which is sad. This IMO has a lot to do with the historical development of China of the last 150 years. European imperialism, China's cultural decline, civil wars, desastrous socio-economical policies at the infant stage of the PRC and the destruction of much Chinese tradition and absence of any kind of cultural education, which was substituted by a materialist doctrine gave a great part of the Chinese society a seriously low self esteem facing a seemingly far wealthier "Western" society.
Many Chinese seem to be nationalistic when talking about China, but in their every day life they would not mind to destroy what the Cultural Revolution has left and replace it with tacky "Western" imitates (go to any Chinese cities and see all the bloody fake Baroque mansions) and at the same time making silly excuses why old houses cannot be modernised.
There is much radicalism in their thinking: If it's old than it either has to be put/turned into a museum or it has to make space for new "development". The problem lies not in making space for development, but the lack of of refined taste and culture, which lead to monstrosities like the afore mentioned Baroque mansions, a style they have no connections with and 99.9% of Chinese know shit about. A amalgamation of heritage with modernity is not an option for many.
On the surface many Chinese seem to be proud of their cultural heritage, but deep inside not a few of them are insecure and full of blind w(h)oreship of anything that is attached with a "Western" sticker.
Slartibartfas August 28th, 2006, 09:20 PM I understand you too well, but many Chinese won't share your opion, which is sad. This IMO has a lot to do with the historical development of China of the last 150 years. European imperialism, China's cultural decline, civil wars, desastrous socio-economical policies at the infant stage of the PRC and the destruction of much Chinese tradition and absence of any kind of cultural education, which was substituted by a materialist doctrine gave a great part of the Chinese society a seriously low self esteem facing a seemingly far wealthier "Western" society.
Many Chinese seem to be nationalistic when talking about China, but in their every day life they would not mind to destroy what the Cultural Revolution has left and replace it with tacky "Western" imitates (go to any Chinese cities and see all the bloody fake Baroque mansions) and at the same time making silly excuses why old houses cannot be modernised.
There is much radicalism in their thinking: If it's old than it either has to be put/turned into a museum or it has to make space for new "development". The problem lies not in making space for development, but the lack of of refined taste and culture, which lead to monstrosities like the afore mentioned Baroque mansions, a style they have no connections with and 99.9% of Chinese know shit about. A amalgamation of heritage with modernity is not an option for many.
On the surface many Chinese seem to be proud of their cultural heritage, but deep inside not a few of them are insecure and full of blind w(h)oreship of anything that is attached with a "Western" sticker.
"Baroque mansions" in China? What do I have to imagine when thinking of it? Does anyone have a picture to show an example? Its weird to imaginate baroque architecture in China somehow. Well, we have a whole inner city full of baroque buildings, but after all I dont life in China either....
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Danny Chua August 30th, 2006, 06:25 AM "Baroque mansions" in China? What do I have to imagine when thinking of it? Does anyone have a picture to show an example? Its weird to imaginate baroque architecture in China somehow. Well, we have a whole inner city full of baroque buildings, but after all I dont life in China either....
Not really Baroque but a completely European feel nonetheless:
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I think the fad will eventually pass. Just a temporary nouveau riche obsession...
BTW in Wuxi there are several sort-of complete reconstructed cities (one 3 Kingdoms era, one Tang dynasty and one Song Dynasty) that they built for filming elaborate period TV shows. These double as theme parks when not in use.
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Anna Maria August 30th, 2006, 08:42 AM I mean the Chinese empire has such a giant history, and a country of that size must have had impressing huge cities with large architecture of grandeur in whole city quarters and centers. What happened to them? Have they become victims of the communist modernisation and industrialisation, or victims of the fast uprise duringthe last decades (ie making place for skyscrapers)? Or perhaps they have been destroyed in WWII? Or do they still exist in certain cases?Hi,
We can not compare our European development, with the Chinese or Japanese one.
1. The urbanization in China was, until the middle of the past century, less than 10-20%, which means, that, except of a few big cities, almost all Chinese lived in wooden/clay villages.
2. Emperors of Chinese dynasties moved their capitals very often, more than 15 times, during Chinese history. It means, that new cities and towns were build up "around" new capitals, and, respectively, many other ones "disappeared" very quickly then.
3. Floods, earthquakes, fire and wars destroyed not only cities, but entire cultures, like the Liangzhu-Culture, with probably millions of people.
Another typical example was Kaifeng, Chinese capital during the Song dynasty, with a pupulation of about 700,000. In 1642, Kaifeng was flooded by the Ming army with water from Yellow River to prevent the peasant rebel Li Zicheng from taking over. After this disaster, the city was abandoned again.
Under the celebrated Qing emperor Kangxi (1662), Kaifeng was rebuilt. However, another flooding occurred in 1841, followed by another reconstruction in 1843, which produced the contemporary Kaifeng as we know it. That time Kaifeng's pupulation sunk under 20,000. (http://www.metmuseum.org)
The same happend to Xianyang / Chang-An / Xian.
Earthquakes: 1556 in Shaanxi - 830,000 victims. 1927 in Xining - 200,000. 1967 Tangshan - 240,000
All the disasters were the reason why Chinese never payed a big attention to their own homes, consequently, their wooden houses were build mostly for one's personal requirement, not even for the children. The quality was bad.
Slartibartfas August 30th, 2006, 06:33 PM Interesting Anna Maria.
That in fact makes a difference. A large one. Its a rare incident in fact that cities especially large ones not to speak about capitals or former ones have been abandoned within the last thousand years in Europe. Even the ancient city of Rome allways had at least a few thousand inhabitants as far as I know. Allthough it took nearly 1500 years I guess until it had as many inhabitants as in the antics. Also Vienna is above 1000 years old, in case you count the Roman town Vindobona even far older. Its a town that never has been set in question as such. Two very severe besiegements of the muslim Osman empire could not change that.
The upper class in Europe also had the tendency to invest a signifcant part of their wealth into representable buildings. Was that different in China? Did they not care to built large breathtaking city palaces (not just the emperor, but everyone who could afford it).
Perhaps also the defensive character plays a signficant role? European cities from very early on were built quite dense due to the city walls that did not let too much place to build just low houses. While the often centralised China had first of all the resources to build large walls and not the need to build as compact.
Anyway, your point about the natural desasters that lead to abandonmnet of towns is not new to me but I did not knew it was such a frequent happening thing. Were also the provencial capitals subject of such frequen relocation?
Anna Maria August 31st, 2006, 04:04 AM Slartibartfas,
The mentality of Far-Eastern people was different than ours, and the value of one human being was never so meaningful as in Europe, in the past 2300 years, at least.
The reasons (resp. evidences) were:
1. huge natural disasters, quakes, typhoons, and, in China, floodings. We have to remember that Yangtze and Huanghe frequently changed their riverbeds. Only Huanghe was flooded about 1500 times, since first recordings, and changed its course 18 times, the last one in 1897. The river was also used as a "weapon" during Chinese wars, killing millions of people.
2. political systems. The human contemptible feudal system kept in China until the Mid of the last century (when the PLA entered Tibet). When in Europe the first democracy was established, human sacrifice was still practiced in China. Mao's Cultural Revolution came in the end.
3. China was an isolated country (Gobi, Taklamakan, Himalaya, Pacific, Great Wall), with very limited chances for exchanging ideas and life-styles.
4. many terrible wars.
But, if people mean nothing, their houses, buildings, and their cities are unimportant too.
Life expectations in China were very low, long-term thinking rare. Only the emperors had the right to build timeless palaces and tombs, so it is better to understand now, why they had been called "forbidden" - not only because the areas inside couldn't be entered by common people.
Everything outside palace walls was temporary, and longevity was meant only for the ruler and a few attributes of his heavently power.
Of course there was also Chinese "aristocracy", but with no continuity in its development. After a new Emperor was introduced, or, a new Dynasty was established, they often disappeared from the surface, their wooden palaces were destroyed and replaced by new ones.
In Europe, many towns and cities were build up arround churches or/and castels of our local rulers: bishops, dukes or princes. Rarely in China; feudal Lhasa.
Interesting also to know, that China never really forced its foreign trade. The slogan was: "We are the middle of the world. If other want something from us - it's their problem".
This is the reason why we have no traditional and historical big cities around Chinese ports (comparable to Antwerp, Hamburg, Lisbon, Marseille or Genoa) - Shanghai, Hongkong or Qingdao are new ports, Ningbo's importance was up and down.
China is changing, rights of Chinese people are changing, and, in the end, new Chinese cities are build over old ones. Unfortunately all the high scyscapers can't give them new, unique and individual features. Neither Chinese Venice, nor Amsterdam, Paris, Vienna, Rome or Athens will be build there, but that's an another thing.
Ohno August 31st, 2006, 04:19 AM ^^
Anna, You are a really old China hand. Thank you for explanation and knowledge that I never knew about.
Anna Maria August 31st, 2006, 08:15 AM The upper class in Europe also had the tendency to invest a signifcant part of their wealth into representable buildings. Was that different in China? Did they not care to built large breathtaking city palaces (not just the emperor, but everyone who could afford it).We have to imagine, that Chinese Emperors lived under a big pressure and a continuing fear to be overthrown by their own generals, hence big competitive palaces - symbols of power - were not allowed at all. The generals were burried even without weapons and other martial attributes to avoid a possible coup in the hereafter.
Qing generals and some high-eunuchs, as example, lived, if not in Emperor's palace, in "normal" Siheyuans (Hutong's houses), and in Beijing we can still go and see a number of their houses.
Very funny, but a few days ago I saw a TV-report on the career of one of the richiest (US$ billionaire) man in China, who is still living in a standard apartment, 20th floor, or so. It seems to be an old Chinese tradition, though chinese nouveaux riches certainly prefere western-styled villas today.
There is also a misunderstanding in terms what a traditional Chinese palace really is - more a fragile pavilion, than a solid palace. If you should go to Beijing or to Shanghai, it's a good idea to enter the so called "Grand-View Gardens". You can find a lot of buildings there, including some palaces, and see how Chinese aristocracy lived more than 200 years ago.
The Gardens, buildings and rooms are replicas, but nevertheless, very interesting. They were build according to the desription of the Grand-View Garden in the classical novel "A Dream of Red Mansions" by Cao Xueqin (my favorite Chinese book).
GoogleEarth "Grand-View Garden" Beijing: 39°52'11.54"N 116°21'1.04"E
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"Grand-View Garden" Shanghai:
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In Beijing's Forbidden City, North-West corner, there are palaces of Qing-Emperors concubines, and also here you will wonder.
Slartibartfas August 31st, 2006, 09:07 PM Anna Maria are you chinese?
Anyway a thousand thanks for this terribly interesting things of Chinese history and mentality.
Its just so different from all pillars of European history. Perhaps that was the price China had to pay for its huge size and the large time of relatively united structures? Europe might be something special in that way. It was not unified since the downfall of the Roman Empire, many dutchies, a long lasting feudal system were actually the monarchs did not have that much to say. The following small kingdoms (small in comparission to China) were easier to controll while allowing a wealthy aristocracy to survive. And in fact even if dynasties changed the aristocracy stayed pretty much the same. That was just supported by the fact that from medieval times each town on its own was a mighty entity that had strong means of defense it could if endangered in existance even turn against the own king. But despite this seperation, the Roman instituation the christian church survived and had a strong unifomrative force that held Europe together at least during the medieval times until a strong cultural interconnection has arisen out of the ashes of the Völkerwanderung.
This East-Asian mindset, or is it just Chinese? Is just so different. What was the sense of such a huge unified empire if no one profitated fromt he high amount of order except of a few hundred or some thousand people in whole? Or is it funny to ask for a sense where there were only facts?
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Now I think about the Romans. They also had a vast empire. Nontheless they built a town for eternity. It seems allready they had a completely different mindset. Look at the antique Rome, with a million inhabitants. Full of representative squares and palaces, temples etc. And there were many wealthy people in this center of the empire. The emperors even built large public buildings just for the enjoyment of the normal people like the Kolloseum for example. Yes they exploited the empire for the hail of a single metropolis, but also the smaller towns of the Roman empire in the different provinces often tried to copy Rome in a smaller version.
Anna Maria September 1st, 2006, 09:36 AM To Slartibartfas
Sorry, but there will be nothing about Chinese architecture today :-(
First I would say, for us, European people it's easier to display all rainbow colors using only black and white paint, than to understand what China is. Nevertheless, we do it. We use or "black and white" symbols trying to paint Chinese "red", "yellow" and other ones, though there is no right communication method to realize it. Are we all fools? No. Also Chinese try to paint Western-like white and black pictures using their colorful palette.
Do you know what I mean?
There is a famous saying that someone who visits China for a week will go home and write a book about it, someone who spends a month there will write no more than an article, and someone who remains for a year or more will be unable to write anything (mentioned for example also in Haw's "A Traveler's history of CHINA").
Hmmmm, I'm not a Chinese. I had interesting jobs and lived as well in Chinese villages as in many monster Chinese and Taiwanese cities for more than three years. But what could I clearly say about this mysterious country, after my 36 Beijing flights since mid eighties, today? Not really very much, keeping to the saying ;-)
Maybe this ...
If we want to try to understand this country we MUST begin our journey in Beijing's Forbidden City. We have no other alternative choice, not only because other ancient Forbidden Cities are not there more or changed their appearences too much, Xian - as example, where only the walls remained.
The Chinese word Zhong of ZhongHua, Central Kingdom, Reich der Mitte, China, means "middle", "centre", "neutral", and could be explained as: "right into the centre of a square target by shooting an arrow" (left character of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Zhongwen.svg).
If you would take a look at Beijing's Forbidden City from the space (GoogleEarth: 39°55'0.84"N 116°23'30.73"E), you would recognize as well Forbidden City's walls = square, as the North/South arrow/axle = from Jingshan Park in north, to Tiananmen Gate (since ~1900 also Square) in south. The imaginary point where the arrow pierces the shield is Emperors "Hall of Supreme Harmony" at the centre of the Forbidden City.
That's only a symbol, but what a one! God's beam from Heaven, through the Emperor, to the Chinese Earth!
Let's be honest about this: Chinese ancient rulers were arrogant, egoistic, selfish, and, except maybe of a few ones, greedy and cruel, including on the other side, also humanists and art lovers. But the worst case was - no one was a visionary ruler. Terrible and great, however.
Yu, a monarch of the first legendary Xia dynasty, living ~2065 BC, had a really great intention to bring the Huanghe river under control ("Who wants to rule over Chine must harness the Huanghe"), but as we know, about 1590 Huanghe floods since then speak an another language.
Was Han/Ming's Great Wall a vision at least? Not at all. The largest object ever build by humans, also called the longest cemetery on Earth due to hundred thousands dead workers there, was never an effective obstacle for the northern people when they moved to China, instead, it was a right symbol for China's isolation in the past. And the modern projects like Tibet-Rail, Three Gorges Dam, Chinese Skyscraper's forest, are great, but not especially unique, using also western technologies.
An interesting example of Chinese failed visionarism was Ming's admiral Zheng He - the first and greatest "PR manager" in people's history at all. Difficult to imagine today, as they had a huge fleet of 317 ships (some up to 200m long), loaded with thousands of Chinese products, handicraft souvenirs at all, 30000 people travelling the southern seas only to show the world how great and fantastic Chinese empire is. And this expedition, taken 1405, was only one of Zheng He's voyages.
Then, after all these Wows and Aaahs, the Emperor destroys the ships, forbids the international trade and beheads merchants and traders who don't keep the ban. Chinese behave even irrational, sometimes.
The Forbidden City is closed to hundred of millions ordinary people, and both are closed to the rest of the World.
Ok, you can try to isolate a girl in Austria or Japan, for 8 or 9 years which is in fact terrible. But we have to undertand that 8 years is nothing compared with thousands of years.
Was the empire's isolation perfect? No. There is an aspect we, when talking about China, usually don't take into our European consideration.
One day, me and my friend, we met some young people in a southern Taiwanese village. First I thought everything was ok, but later a Hakka man from the village said to me: "You are nice but I don't like your friend". "Oh, why? I asked", "You know", he replied, "is your friend a Manchu guy? He has a plait in his hair. I don't like Manchus at all".
I found this funny that time, but many years later in Beijing I learned a girl who said to me, that although she and her Manchu family are very well assimillated in central China, they are really very happy only in their village, during holidays, somewhere in northern China.
I know, that there are still some problems within China's multinational country, but these cases where much more interesting to me than I could expect.
Well, what I learned then?
In Chinese Dynasty's chain, beginning from the end of the 6th century till the bitter end, Chinese enjoyed six Dynasties (Sui, Tang, Song, Yuan, Ming, Qing/Manchu), and three of them (all from north; Sui, Yuan, Qing/Manchu) were founded by none Chinese nations, now assimilated, but that time considered as wicked foreign invadors.
Fine. Imagine, Danish come to Germany today. They defeat the German army, destroy German cities, kill German people (only my enemies, thanks, thanks), set their own government at the Spree, learn German language, call themselves Germans, and our dear German chancellor finds a suitable tree in a park - knowing what the last Ming Emperor did (she's finally well educated about Chinese history). Later the same procedure with the Austrian, and in the end with our Belgian friends. Interesting, or?
Back to China.
Sui, Yuan and Qing Emperors brought new people, new customs, new ideas and new cultural aspects to China, so that all these new influences could expand old stiff Han-Chinese systems.
Resume.
China is far away, China is absent, China is weird, China is poor, China is forgotten, China is uncommunicative, China uses Chinese characters, China speaks Chinese, China had bad manners, China has no gold, China overflows us, China had a culture revolution, China has a Wall, China had 1989, China is undemocratic, China is clever, China is red.
Is there any positive aspect of China's international isolation? Of course, a big one.
All these above are reasons why China and its culture could survive for 5000 years!
A gift for the history, a big luck for China today.
Slartibartfas September 1st, 2006, 12:09 PM To Slartibartfas
Sorry, but there will be nothing about Chinese architecture today :-(
First I would say, for us, European people it's easier to display all rainbow colors using only black and white paint, than to understand what China is. Nevertheless, we do it. We use or "black and white" symbols trying to paint Chinese "red", "yellow" and other ones, though there is no right communication method to realize it. Are we all fools? No. Also Chinese try to paint Western-like white and black pictures using their colorful palette.
Do you know what I mean?
...
Resume.
China is far away, China is absent, China is weird, China is poor, China is forgotten, China is uncommunicative, China uses Chinese characters, China speaks Chinese, China had bad manners, China has no gold, China overflows us, China had a culture revolution, China has a Wall, China had 1989, China is undemocratic, China is clever, China is red.
Is there any positive aspect of China's international isolation? Of course, a big one.
All these above are reasons why China and its culture could survive for 5000 years!
A gift for the history, a big luck for China today.
Well, in that way I'll try to paint some colourfull scenes of China with my black and white pensils ;)
China and Europe both have a uniting element of history: The mongoles.
The non European Hunns led toegether with the Germanic tribes to the downfall of West-Rome and even established an empire reaching far into central Europe.
Under Tshingis Khan the Mongoles entered the eastern borders of Europe and got up to the borders of the Ausrtrian mark back than belonging to the Frank empire, the sole strong somewhat large kingdom that could establish itself since the fell apart of West Rome. Nothing could stop them as they were militarely superior, not depedant on supply lines and fast moving. And the sole reason the military success did not continue was the death of Tshingis Khan which led to a pause which led to the end of the conquest.
Europe had its fair share of non European invasions too. But its consequences were of a completely different nature as the Mongoles never had an interest or the chance to overtake a strong central bureaucracy somehwere in Europe that could grant such a thing. While in China they had the will and the chance several times as it seems, if I am right.
Europes history was very volatile in the years before the first millenium. But than kingdoms could establish themselves. The early middle ages came to an end and the era of kingdoms started. And after some time also the principal of a capital city developed. Those in the beginning weak kingdoms fostered the building of castles and fortresses which led to a strong stabilisation of regions that stopped the total chaos due to constant migration pressure and invadors from before. But while the king might have been the officially highest person, hundreds of dukes had the real effective power on the ground and did the best to let their small piece of earth prosper in case it was a good one, or at least get the outmost out of it for his pleassure if a bad one.
The fact that Europe was in the hand of hundreds of dukes let to the rise of many cities with palaces fortresses etc. and a stable developement. But on the other side in times of great dangers, this totally fractured Europe had the possibility to work together to defend itself. That combined with the luck Europe had (eg with Tshingis Khan), it could defend itself against foreign invasions to the largest parts. Somehow the medieval Europe had some components of the Greek civilisation.
Later on one could see the arising of royal dynasties, Austria might be a very interesting case concerning that. It only had two dynasties with the first one lasting only 90 years but founding the dutchy that should become an empire long afterwards. And the second well known one, that reigned for not less than 636 years until 1918, the Habsburger. That lead to some constancy in the developement of my hometown Vienna you know.
But during all that times of internal European wars, rivalties between European kingdoms, wins of this one, losses of that one, never the existance of whole cities was set in question as far as I know. The emperors simply would not have been powerfull enough to demand a larger town to vanish. Of course there have been wars like the 30years war that devasted the lands, but that did not destroy towns either. After all the European aristocracy became more and more relative to each other, they marriaged all across.
Another aspect that can not be underestimated is the Curch. As last remaining roman institution it was the protecter of the wisdom of the fallen empire. And it effectively was the force that held Europe in the middle ages together. The abbeys were the sole place of developement and science during those times. And until the era of Renaissance brake on they were the sole ones to remember the wisdom and heritage of the antique civilisation.
No doubt during all those centuries, Europe was nothing special. Allready the Arabic realms superceded it by far in nearly all terms. Not to speak about China I guess.
In fact I am still unsure what led to the rise of Europe. Probably it really was the discoverage of the new world. A point when also the ancient books in the libraries and the wisdom of arabic scripts has been read again and universities took over the job. And the developement of the Gun powder, well not that Europeans invented it, but it puzzles me that that we were the first as it seem to construct guns. The weapon that should lead suddenly to military superiority.
Probably the point so few non-chinese people today speak Chinese but instead English is that Europe started to look beyond its borders starting with the 16th century.
Ok, I have now perhaps shown that I have concepts about Europe.... but I still lack to coming only near to understand China.... :dunno:
Anna, one question. Why are not only Chinese but also they such fans of (European) classical music and architecture? I can see it day in day out when looking into the city centre of Vienna.
It seems weird enough that many Chinese know such tiny little something like Austria at all. But the way they seem to be impressed by eg Vienna amazes me. What is the the reason for being so impressed for those Chinese (and also Japanese etc) from their perspective?
Just a recent example, the Chinese television has asked our states broadcaster to make a joint broadcast, with classical Austrian and Chinese music. That makes 8 million potential Austrian viewers seeing Chinese music, but above hundrends of millions potential Chinese who see Austrian music....
nazrey September 2nd, 2006, 10:59 AM Traditional Malay Skyscraper
Kuala Lumpur
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v608/nazrey/Kuala%20Lumpur/55.jpg
el tico September 6th, 2006, 01:06 PM Great pictures, makes you wanna be there.
JustHorace September 6th, 2006, 02:36 PM What came to be known as Philippine architecture...
from flickr
PHILIPPINE CHURCHES (only a selected few are featured)
San Agustin Church, Intramuros de Manila
http://static.flickr.com/49/148710992_6630d0cad2.jpg?v=1147957802
Santo Tomas de Villanueva
http://static.flickr.com/55/171891339_34b6307c86_o.jpg
Iglesia de San Agustin, Paoay, Ilocos Norte
http://static.flickr.com/49/117490060_7f6d8ca3fc.jpg?v=0
San Martin de Torres
http://static.flickr.com/29/166770682_61c18edf6c.jpg?v=0
Iglesia de Santiago Apostol, Betis, Pampanga
http://static.flickr.com/45/147083686_6b8326fb9f.jpg?v=0
inside Santiago Apostol
http://static.flickr.com/55/147084466_c8c79c5aec.jpg?v=0
Iglesia de San Geronimo, Morong
http://static.flickr.com/38/93080842_99993b2728.jpg
Iglesia de La Asuncion, Santa Maria, Ilocos Sur
http://static.flickr.com/72/198046467_689b2b4fc6.jpg?v=0
there are more from where that came from
City of Vigan (formerly, Ciudad Fernandina)
http://static.flickr.com/39/105152608_0c7e6de127.jpg
Aeropuerto de Zamboanga
http://static.flickr.com/52/156184653_f3548263c5.jpg?v=0
A Pre-Hispanic Bahay Kubo (Nipa Hut)
http://www.imagesphilippines.com/images/010803_165419.jpg
Jo September 6th, 2006, 02:48 PM Traditional Thai architecture
http://i1.trekearth.com/photos/45731/p8100015.jpg
http://i1.trekearth.com/photos/44384/wat_arun.jpg
http://artemis.austincollege.edu/acad/AsianStudies/Studentwebpages/SoutheastAsianTemplesJamesMitchell/End%20of%20Japan%20and%20Start%20of%20Bangkok%20094.jpg
http://www.thainews.com.au/images2/boran17.jpg
http://www.thainews.com.au/images2/boran19.jpg
http://www.thainews.com.au/images2/wat2.jpg
http://www.thaitraveldreams.com/info/vimanmek.jpg
http://www.bangkokmag.infothai.com/images/vimanmek2.jpg
http://www.bangkokmag.infothai.com/images/suandusit1.jpg
http://www.davisbangkok.net/davis/Gallery/Thumb-Thai-House.jpg
http://i1.trekearth.com/photos/47187/ancient_4.jpg
http://www.asiarooms.com/images/thailand/bangkok/grand_palace_roof.jpg
http://www.chiangmai-mail.com/132/pictures/f1-1-132.jpg
Khmer influences
http://i1.trekearth.com/photos/33846/watt.jpg
Common houses
Common ideas is an open courtyard, pillars, lots of tropical wood, curvy multi tiered roofs with different kinds of spires, and pools (mainly to protect from animals and insects and maybe for symbolical value). Windows were often narrowing towards te top for added strength.
http://www.thainews.com.au/images2/boran21.jpg
http://www.valben.com/sixmois/images/thailand/jim_thomson_01.jpg
http://i1.trekearth.com/photos/22710/dsc09625.jpg
http://trekthailand.8k.com/samutprakarn_1/muang_boran1.jpg
http://trekthailand.8k.com/samutprakarn_1/muang_boran2.jpg
http://www.lotus-travel.com/lotus-cms/images/63_03.jpg
http://www.csmngt.com/lani%20thai%20house.jpg
http://www.thai-eu-cultures.com/Vimanmek.JPG
http://www.thailand-huahin.com/photos/pg/pg31/P3.JPG http://www.thailand-huahin.com/photos/pg/pg31/P7.JPG
The spirit house
A miniature building are traditionally placed in the garden to house the spirits of the site of a building. This is still done for official buildings, and most skyscrapers in Bangkok has an elaborate spirit house near the entrance or at the roof.
http://www.craft-asia.com/images/Thai-Spirit-House---19x14x7.jpg http://www.bangkoksite.com/Museums/SpiritHouse.JPG
There are lots of regional differences in the architecture, as in every country, but I don't want to go into too much details.
hkskyline September 22nd, 2006, 06:53 AM http://www.globalphotos.org/bangkok/2006/IMG_1256.jpg
http://www.globalphotos.org/bangkok/2006/IMG_1259.jpg
http://www.globalphotos.org/bangkok/2006/IMG_1299.jpg
http://www.globalphotos.org/bangkok/2006/IMG_1298.jpg
http://www.globalphotos.org/bangkok/2006/IMG_1302.jpg
http://www.globalphotos.org/bangkok/2006/IMG_1304.jpg
http://www.globalphotos.org/bangkok/2006/IMG_1281.jpg
hkskyline July 19th, 2007, 08:23 AM Chinese diaspora villages made World Heritage site
HONG KONG, June 28 (Reuters) - A clutch of idyllic Chinese villages with striking Western-style buildings embodying the roots of the Chinese diaspora over a century ago was made a United Nations World Heritage site on Thursday.
Lying in a quiet corner of southern China, to the west of the Pearl River Delta, Kaiping's bucolic countryside is sprinkled with hundreds of rural Qiaoxian, or overseas Chinese villages, which, along with several neighbouring counties, gave rise to much of the Chinese diaspora in the late 1800's and early 1900's.
Many distinct buildings, including striking tall watchtowers or Diaolou, were built by returning emigres in a distinct style fusing Chinese, Victorian and Baroque architectural elements.
A cluster of four such villages in Kaiping county including picturesque gems like Zili village, set amid verdant rice paddy fields, was designated by UNESCO's World Heritage Commission which met in Christchurch, New Zealand.
"I'm very happy they got it, because this is a reflection of history," said David Lung, the Head of the Department of Architecture at the University of Hong Kong.
Lung had helped initially with Kaiping's submission to the world cultural body by stressing its value as a repository of overseas Chinese culture.
"It's a reflection of the history of early settlers... the Chinese immigrants who went to San Francisco or Australia in the late 1800's, early 1900's that helped in the gold mines," he said.
Kaiping officials had spent eight years trying to get listed, a task made urgent by the deterioration and dereliction of some key historic spots.
"Kaiping is not so rich... so now we can make this site useful by developing it and opening it up to cultural tourism," said Selia Tan, the director of the Diaolou Research Department in Kaiping, who spoke by phone to Reuters from New Zealand after attending the UNESCO meeting.
Experts say up to 80 percent of the Chinese in North America came from the so called "Say-yat" region in the Pearl River Delta -- a group of four districts including Kaiping and Taishan.
The Chinese diaspora to North America and Australia began in the mid-1800's when Chinese peasants lured by tales of gold rushes headed off in steamships.
When the goldfields were exhausted, more still went to work on the Transcontinental railroads across Canada and the United States.
Subsequent generations ended up working in laundries, groceries and restaurants, among other enterprises, founding Chinatowns wherever they went.
With Kaiping's inscription, China now has 35 World Heritage cultural and natural sites -- ranging from the Great Wall and Lhasa's Potala Palace to Macau's historic Portuguese centre.
A cluster of striking Karst formations and stone forests in Southern China's Yunnan, Guizhou and Guangxi provinces was also listed as a natural world heritage site by UNESCO this week.
Over 800 sites from around the world are now UNESCO World Heritage listed, described to be of outstanding universal value.
Danny Chua July 20th, 2007, 03:55 AM ^^ Some pictures of old 雕楼 (diaolou) in Kaiping:
http://www.51nb.com/space/attachments/2007/04/250080_200704171728584.thumb.jpg
http://www.51nb.com/space/attachments/2007/04/250080_200704171728583.thumb.jpg
http://cimg2.163.com/cnews/2006/12/12/2006121219374135c28.gif
http://photos.gznet.com/photos/1025356/1025356-avGPVQE!Kh.jpg
http://www.szllly.com/art/UploadFile/200641795435245.jpg
At the time Diaolou were not just fancy residences in a new style, they were mini-fortresses. All windows had bars AND metal shutters. The doors were either hardwood or metal. The balconies and rooftop terraces provided excellent lookout and firing positions in every direction. (Guns were plentiful back then, as well as bandits.) It may seem just aesthetics and luxury for us now but the architecture itself is a testament to the turbulent times in which they lived in. :)
nazrey July 20th, 2007, 07:14 AM Malaysia
Kuala Kangsar, Perak
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v608/nazrey/01.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v608/nazrey/istanakenangan.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v608/nazrey/Another/272038868_41bf3a626c_b.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/149/358125193_d1d195bb36_o.jpg
nazrey July 20th, 2007, 07:42 AM Pangkor Laut, Perak
http://img35.picoodle.com/img/img35/9/7/20/f_662m_0a8a664.jpg
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nazrey July 20th, 2007, 08:06 AM by rocketsrevenge
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http://img26.picoodle.com/img/img26/9/7/20/f_4261m_84a9437.jpg
by Brad and Tania
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http://img34.picoodle.com/img/img34/9/7/20/f_663m_556018f.jpg
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by gilesrhysjones
http://img35.picoodle.com/img/img35/9/7/20/f_664m_0872cd8.jpg
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nazrey July 20th, 2007, 08:17 AM http://img27.picoodle.com/img/img27/9/7/20/f_4262m_fa39ec4.jpg
nazrey July 20th, 2007, 08:37 AM Four Seasons, Langkawi
http://img32.picoodle.com/img/img32/9/7/20/f_667m_47f1638.jpg
by Nino Caruncho
http://www.pbase.com/caruncho4/image/44161823.jpg
by videografer
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/77/186262207_2c32d66d96_o.jpg
http://img32.picoodle.com/img/img32/9/7/20/f_666m_5240aa3.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/48/186281750_4f907a252c_o.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/caruncho4/image/44161818.jpg
nazrey July 20th, 2007, 09:21 AM Traditional Malay Skyscraper
Kuala Lumpur
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v608/nazrey/Kuala%20Lumpur/55.jpg
by FineShots
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/55/146890984_18efd7e9cd_o.jpg
nazrey July 20th, 2007, 09:24 AM Melaka
by chiara_roach
http://img34.picoodle.com/img/img34/9/7/20/f_53m_c0eb408.jpg
http://img27.picoodle.com/img/img27/9/7/20/f_52m_463d2ac.jpg
nazrey July 20th, 2007, 09:48 AM by Miek37
http://img26.picoodle.com/img/img26/9/7/20/f_536m_c346e44.jpg
nazrey July 20th, 2007, 10:02 AM by ilokano
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/211/457854109_c3199180ef_o.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/247/457838550_917cd40e4f_o.jpg
Jo July 20th, 2007, 02:43 PM Doesn't seem to be any genuine traditional architecture, just new resorts and a museum.
nazrey July 20th, 2007, 03:18 PM Think before saying! :)
nazrey July 20th, 2007, 03:25 PM Khota Baru
http://img26.picoodle.com/img/img26/9/7/20/f_856m_10b9c12.jpg
http://img31.picoodle.com/img/img31/9/7/20/f_857m_4b061c6.jpg
nazrey July 20th, 2007, 03:27 PM Kuala Kangsar Abandon House, Perak
by poweredbysinister
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http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1007/690643921_0abc39ed19_o.jpg
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http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1085/690643799_48d4b10053_o.jpg
nazrey July 20th, 2007, 04:09 PM Istana kenangan - Kuala Kangsar, Perak
It has now become the Royal Museum of Perak.
http://img35.picoodle.com/img/img35/9/7/20/f_867m_93f1ece.jpg
http://img33.picoodle.com/img/img33/9/7/20/f_868m_86cbabf.jpg
nazrey July 20th, 2007, 04:33 PM by becklectic
http://img26.picoodle.com/img/img26/9/7/20/f_872m_5cf643d.jpg
http://img26.picoodle.com/img/img26/9/7/20/f_869m_1aca1f0.jpg
nazrey July 20th, 2007, 05:29 PM Melawati Palace, Putrajaya
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v608/nazrey/pano1sm1.jpg
http://img38.picoodle.com/img/img38/9/7/20/f_888m_087cedd.jpg
nazrey July 20th, 2007, 05:30 PM Potala Palace, Tibet
The Potala Palace ancient architectural complex is considered a model of Tibetan architecture. Located on the Red Hill in Lhasa, Tibet, it is 3,700 meters above sea level
by ironmanixs
http://img40.picoodle.com/img/img40/9/7/20/f_887m_c37ba0e.jpg
nazrey July 20th, 2007, 05:49 PM Himeji Castle, Japan
Miyajima is an island ten minutes by boat off the coast of Miyajimaguchi, easily reached from Hiroshima by train (20 minutes) or tram (60 minutes). As the boat approaches the ferry terminal on Miyajima you are met by the Torii Gate, and with the island behind this is officially one of Japan's top 3 views. The main attraction is the Itsukushima Shrine, but there's also other temples, gardens and beatiful scenery. And don't forget the tame deers, present everywhere on the island. It's a perfect day-trip from Hiroshima.
http://img33.picoodle.com/img/img33/9/7/20/f_24m_a61757e.jpg
nazrey July 20th, 2007, 05:50 PM Osaka Castle
by stormdaemon
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1123/803730335_f081af97a6_b.jpg
hkskyline July 20th, 2007, 06:06 PM Kaiping, China
Source : http://www.pbase.com/clementwan/kaiping
http://www.pbase.com/clementwan/image/81588690.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/clementwan/image/81588691.jpg
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http://www.pbase.com/clementwan/image/81588699.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/clementwan/image/81588702.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/clementwan/image/81588703.jpg
Jo July 20th, 2007, 06:29 PM ..
arzaranh July 20th, 2007, 06:42 PM Think before saying! :)
ummm... i think he's right:gossip:
arzaranh July 20th, 2007, 07:00 PM I understand you too well, but many Chinese won't share your opion, which is sad. This IMO has a lot to do with the historical development of China of the last 150 years. European imperialism, China's cultural decline, civil wars, desastrous socio-economical policies at the infant stage of the PRC and the destruction of much Chinese tradition and absence of any kind of cultural education, which was substituted by a materialist doctrine gave a great part of the Chinese society a seriously low self esteem facing a seemingly far wealthier "Western" society.
Many Chinese seem to be nationalistic when talking about China, but in their every day life they would not mind to destroy what the Cultural Revolution has left and replace it with tacky "Western" imitates (go to any Chinese cities and see all the bloody fake Baroque mansions) and at the same time making silly excuses why old houses cannot be modernised...
...On the surface many Chinese seem to be proud of their cultural heritage, but deep inside not a few of them are insecure and full of blind w(h)oreship of anything that is attached with a "Western" sticker.
i can't tell you how much i agree. i have seen this attitude in many non western societies - so many that i some times wonder if i'm the one who is messed up in the head.
nanda* July 21st, 2007, 05:39 AM INDONESIAN ARCHITECTURE
Indonesian Architecture reflects the same diversity of cultural, historical, and geographic influences that have shaped Indonesia as a whole. Invaders, colonisers, missionaries, merchants and traders brought cultural changes that had a pronounced effect on building styles and techniques. Traditionally, the most significant foreign influence has been Indian, but Chinese, Arab, and since the 18th and 19th centuries, European influences which have been important.
JAVA
Prambanan temple complex
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fb/Prambanan.jpg
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/9/9d/200px-Hindu_Temple_in_Java_,_Indonesia.jpghttp://www.gamelannetwork.co.uk/assets/pics/Rama-sinta.jpghttp://www.iiwas.org/conferences/momm2006/images/Prambanan.jpg
Borobudur, the largest buddhist monument on earth
http://www.joeldavan.fr/borobudur2001_copie.jpghttp://www.joeldavan.fr/borobudur2001.07_copie.jpg
http://www.joeldavan.fr/borobudur2001.05_copie.jpghttp://www.joeldavan.fr/borobudur2001.02_copie.jpg
http://www.orientalarchitecture.com/yogyakarta/borobudurplan.jpg
Amanjiwo, a hotel in central Java
http://www.veavoyages.com/images/amanjiwo_loby.jpghttp://www.jakartajavakini.com/media/img_cj7_july05.jpg
http://www.ginzamoonshell.com/aman/img/amanjiwo_photo3.jpghttp://pkg.luxurylink.com/images_w/luxury/suppliers/175dining.jpg
BALI
Besakih Temple
http://pelourinho.com/bali/2004/appxweek2/0731BesakihTemple/main/04jul31-100320-1_std.jpg
http://www.cod.edu/PEOPLE/FACULTY/raepple/Religion%20Global/bali_besakih_door_300.jpg
http://blog.baliwww.com/wp-content/photos/besakih_temple.jpghttp://www.vivien-und-erhard.de/english/travel/bali/images/Tempel_09A.jpg
Tirtagangga Water Palace
http://www.bali-intern.de/tirtagangga2.jpg
http://warungnet.de/tirtagangga-1999-1.jpghttp://www.indonesieonline.nl/images/waterpaleis.jpg
http://www.tirtagangga.nl/Main_bestanden/image004.jpg
SUMATRA
Minangkabau Palace
http://www.travel-pictures-gallery.net/pics/indonesia/indo0007.jpg
Batak traditionnal house
http://www.lowlands-l.net/anniversary/images/batak.jpghttp://www.anthroarcheart.org/grfx/b4t.JPGhttp://www.burtonbradstock.org.uk/History/Lionel%20Bailey%20wartime/Sumatra.jpg
nazrey July 21st, 2007, 06:17 AM Post more whatever masterpiece traditional Asian architecture!
nazrey July 22nd, 2007, 11:28 AM Terengganu
by kebeckham7
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1002/774156333_592079aaf9_o.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1277/799000626_1dd49eb64b_o.jpg
nazrey July 22nd, 2007, 06:33 PM by FineShots
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/55/146890984_18efd7e9cd_o.jpg
by Christopher Chan
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/136/322959464_12a90925d0_o.jpg
nazrey July 23rd, 2007, 05:32 AM Malay House
OLD
Terengganu
http://img29.picoodle.com/img/img29/9/7/22/f_010m_deed5c6.jpg
NEW
Danga bay, Johor
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v608/nazrey/752700.jpg
nazrey July 23rd, 2007, 05:38 AM http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v608/nazrey/336978861_97680d6c33_b.jpg
Zaki July 25th, 2007, 10:22 PM http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v608/nazrey/336978861_97680d6c33_b.jpg
Wow where is this? It looks so much like the house styles in bangladesh.
nazrey July 26th, 2007, 04:42 AM Danga Bay (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=85309&page=6), Johor (Bordering to Singapore)
austrian July 26th, 2007, 03:32 PM I just love the old asian architecture, we need more topics and pics of it ;-)
thanks guys for sharing the great stuff!
the spliff fairy August 1st, 2007, 12:48 PM most of China's imperial cities were destroyed with each regime change, 'positive feedom' in action and last seen in the Cultural Revolution. This is why a region as populated and ancient as Europe, filled with historic cities hasnt one remaining intact. Hangzhou is one such example, including a 500ft pagoda complex centrepiece of a city that was the Eastern counterpart (and larger) to Rome and her Empire, and that was last destroyed in the 1815 Taiping Rebellion when it burned to the ground with much loss of life. Hangzhou differed from the other great imperial cities as it had no traditional height limits (no taller than the palaces), and its buildings were 10 storeys high.
At various times Nanjing, Beijing, Xian, Hangzhou and Louyang were once the largest cities on earth, for centuries before their destruction and abandonment. There have been palaces at Xian that were once 7.5x, 6x, and 3.5x larger than the Forbidden City, currently the worlds largest palace with 980 buildings and 8700 rooms, and covering 780,000 sq m.
I have to say though the periodic mass destruction of the symbols of the old regimes has enabled the Chinese civilisation to adapt and last for more than 6000 years, the world's longest surviving civilisation.
the spliff fairy August 1st, 2007, 12:49 PM Take modern day Beijing and although destroyed many times in its history, we can chart its last destruction. Set up as a vast square in plan surrounded by the largest ever city walls, 40 miles in length with fortress gates that were the tallest buildings in the city, and castle sized watchtowers. The city was formed of concentric rings leading to the final inner sanctum of the Hall of Supreme Harmony in the Forbidden City. The city walls were bulldozed in the 1950s for the expanding population. Some watchtowers and sections have since been rebuilt.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/98/Beijing_old_city_walls.jpg http://sacu.org/BeijingCityWall.png
http://www.chinats.com/userimages/beijing/1900069612-xc.gif http://www.legendsofchina.com/beijing_clip_image004.jpg
Inside was the dense Chinese city, a maze of centuries old brick and tile hutongs 'as fine and numerous as the hairs on a cow'. This is what has been mostly destroyed in the current economic revolution.
Another concentric ring of walls divided into the Tatar City where the Manchurian rulers lived. When the Nationalist govt came to power in the 1920s there were 3000 temples and palaces in Beijing. Within a decade that had been reduced to 300,many of which would later be destroyed in the Cultural Revolution.
Then came the Inner City of 28 massive temple complexes and studded with palaces for ruling officials. Much of this city was destroyed in the Boxer Rebellion by the Western colonial powers.
http://www.bigredhair.com/boilerplate/boxer.jpg
Then came the fabled Forbidden City which still survives but was looted and badly damaged by the colonial troops during the infamous Opium Wars and once again in the Boxer Rebelllion.
http://www.kinabaloo.com/fc43667.gif
When Japan invaded in 1925 millions of artefacts were shipped onto 3 trains for safekeeping in Nanjing, half of which was returned after the war, and the other half sent onto a train shuttling back and forth across China while a new Civil War raged on. This train formed the nucleus of the collection of 10,000 crates of imperial treasures and paintings. As the Nationalists were evacuating to Taiwan they were forced to leave behind 6000 crates on the jetty, a scene unforgettable to the main collector and auditor. The remaining 3000 crates now form the National Palace Museum in Taipei, the largest surviving collection of Chinese art with 700,000 pieces, a fraction of which can only be displayed. The fate of all the rest probably lies in destruction or sits on mantlepieces across Europe and NA. Go now to the Forbidden City and the place is eerily empty, large shells of buildings.
the remains of the Forbidden City collections lie in 7 vast climate controlled chambers in the hill behind the National Palace Museum building on the outskirts of Taipei:
http://www.sen.parl.gc.ca/ldyck/images/gallery/Taiwan,%20Mar%202006/7.%20%20National%20Palace%20Museum.JPG
The outer palaces were also destroyed by colonial troops, notably the Old Summer Palace which was 5x larger than the Forbidden City and had the largest gardens ever built, including recreations of classical Southern landscapes and Tibetan, Mongolian and European styled palaces. 40 lakes each had an island with a palace within, aswell as being a vast depository for the imperial art. In October 6th 1860 after the Chinese boarded a British boat in Canton and threw off the opium, the British and French troops marched on the palace and massacred 1000 of the inhabitants, then looted it for 36 hrs. When Chinese surrender didnt emerge it was destroyed, taking 3500 troops and 3 days to burn to the ground, many of whom were appalled. Much of the treasures inside dated to 3600 years of Chinese history and formed the largest museum in the world:
"We went out, and, after pillaging it, burned the whole place, destroying in a vandal-like manner most valuable property which [could] not be replaced for four millions. We got upward of £48 apiece prize money….I have done well. The [local] people are very civil, but I think the grandees hate us, as they must after what we did the Palace. You can scarcely imagine the beauty and magnificence of the places we burnt. It made one’s heart sore to burn them; in fact, these places were so large , and we were so pressed for time , that we could not plunder then carefully. Quantities of gold ornaments were burnt, considered as brass. It was wretchedly demoralising work for an army."
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a7/Yuanmingyuan2.jpg
remains of the European palaces
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/8e/Oldsummerpalaceruin.jpg/800px-Oldsummerpalaceruin.jpg
the new Summer Palace on a new site, an attempt at a recreation of the old splendour, was once again looted and destroyed in 1900 by British and American troops. It was rebuilt 2 years later on a smaller scale (only 70,000 sq m of buildings):
Longevity Hill
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Summer_Palace%2C_Beijing%2C_China.jpg/800px-Summer_Palace%2C_Beijing%2C_China.jpg
Basically imagine this century long destruction compressed to a few years for the fate of Changan, Xian, Hangzhou, Louyang, Nanjing
the spliff fairy August 1st, 2007, 01:08 PM Another example is Tokyo of course, periodically Edo being the largest city in the world in its history. Its centrepice was Edo-jo, the largest castle ever built with 5 concentric rings of defences designed to confound and confuse attacking armies with dead ends and traps (even then the clever Samurai were able to defeat it).
This is a city thats suffered hugely too, the 'blossoms of Edo' referred to by the residents through years past are the periodic fires that take out huge swathes of the city and killing hundreds of thousands.
The Mereiki Fire, or Long Sleeves Fire of 1657 has a haunting history - a beautiful kimono was made by a woman, Kiku, in love with a royal page. The pattern he wore on his shoes she made into cloth, but died suddenly before she could wear it at age 16. Draped over her coffin on 16th January 1655 the kimono was later given to another teenager, Hana who died a year later without ever wearing it. Once again the kimono was draped over her coffin, her funeral coinciding once again on 16th January. The kimono found itself at a pawnshop where the young girl who worked there, Tatsu, took it for herself. On her subsequent funeral a year and 2 days later, 18th January 1657, the kimono deemed so unlucky was burnt at an exorcism ritual in Hongjyo Temple. A 'sudden wind' sprang up as it was lit spreading a fire that ultimately destroyed 2/3 of the city, including 300 palaces, 600 temples, 3000 shops, and the worlds largest castle ever built, Edo-Jo. The death toll was 107,000 (recorded)- 200,000 (estimated), or half the city's population.
http://www.ne.jp/asahi/iidabasi/sanpo/mukasi/meireki_taika.jpg
Then there was the Great Kwanto quake of 1923 that killed 140,000 and destroyed most of Japan's national treasures as the National Museum was lost - the damage was emmense, the worlds largest city hit by quake followed by tsunami and fire, makes it the worlds most costliest and damaging natural disaster to this day.
One European eyewitness reports standing on the docks of Yokohama - the pier was swaying so he didnt feel the quake, but was awestruck by a 'strange cloud' that started at one end of the seafront and spread its way from right to left across the horizon, in eerie silence - he was in fact seeing the dust sprung into the air by the collapse of thousands of buildings across the city. The fire that followed was marked by devastating firestorms, whirlwinds of fire that sucked people into them. In the aftermath 6000 Koreans were systematically massacred by the mobs and police 'to quell a Korean riot'.:
http://aog.2y.net/uploads/Lyrt/Images/Kanto%20Earthquake%2001.jpg
http://www.wilsonsalmanac.com/images2/sep1_kanto_quake_po.jpg
http://www.willamette.edu/~rloftus/teigekijo.jpg http://www.hewett.norfolk.sch.uk/curric/NewGeog/Tectonic/Earth/bu15-30.jpghttp://www.macalester.edu/courses/GEOG61/ksingh/earthquake2.jpg
http://image.ohmynews.com/down/images/1/todd_320400_1%5B526325%5D.jpghttp://dev.nsta.org/evwebs/1223/kanto_quake.jpg
http://research.kahaku.go.jp/rikou/namazu/03kanto/meziro/a/064-03.JPG
WWII http://images.artelino.com/images/images/kanto_earthquake4.jpg
the new city of 1932
The most recent blossom was the destruction of, if it had survived, of the worlds greatest art deco city and newly rebuilt -by the worst bombing raids in the world - one night alone 80,000 were killed, burned alive in the densest firebombing in the war. The reason they didnt drop atom bombs on Tokyo was that it was already destroyed by then. 180,000 died in total and the dead choked the streets and rivers, where thousands sought refuge.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/90/Firebombing_of_Tokyo.jpg/300px-Firebombing_of_Tokyo.jpg http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/pacific/maps/images/maps_04_01.jpg
http://history.independence.co.jp/ww2/raid/ca02.jpg http://history.independence.co.jp/ww2/raid/ca01.jpg
http://www.mid-tokyo.com/15/img/original.jpg
http://image.blog.livedoor.jp/takekan/imgs/4/8/48a7eadf.jpg
http://japanfocus.org/images/463-1.jpg
http://history.independence.co.jp/ww2/raid/ca06.jpg
The next 'blossom of Edo' is the 80 year cycle Big One Quake, that is now at least 4 years overdue
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the spliff fairy August 1st, 2007, 01:31 PM there are places where war, flood, and political upheaval are put aside and wood built buildings can survive - villages and county towns. Basically , go on google Earth and you can check out thousands upon thousands of old style Chinese villages, so many of them it would be impossible for UNESCO to list them all (though its started on the watertowns around Shanghai). Its also interesting to note new housing that goes up here are still in the old style. When I returned to my ancestral village in Hainan most of the houses were old style, but to my amzament found out most of them had been built in the last 2 years. Many buildings in this part of the country are stone and brick to withstand typhoons:
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/9329/dsc00165wq5.jpg
200 year old street, mixed with new houses - all identical
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/6799/dsc00167ty6.jpg
detail above a window on a new house. Magpies, that mate for life, are the symbol for newly weds
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/3805/dsc00212dy9.jpg
Of the largest tracts of old architecture, Lijiang would be the largest contiguous with over a million residents:
http://www.bikechina.com/images/LijiangPark2.jpg http://www.pazyryk-gesellschaft.com/images/events/chinareise/21-Lijiang.jpg
http://www.redbubble.com/rbimages/works_work_main_view/Lijiang_Rooftops_b_w.jpg http://www.eltartalo.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10001/normal_lijiang-tejados.jpg
http://www.lightscapephoto.com/images/Lijiang%20streets.jpg
of the big 10 million+ cities crowded wityh highrises, Nanjing and Chengdu still have large tracts of traditional architecture too, Nanjing with endless main temple complexes and palaces (over 100), and leafy backstreets, while Chengdu not only has its old style houses and teahouse culture, but still builds new buildings in traditional materials:
new:
http://www.zs-car.net/bbs/UploadFile/2005-5/20055415541324.jpg
http://img129.echo.cx/img129/9924/05resize2ix.jpg
old:
http://www.chengdu.cn:81/upload/2006713103819.jpg
http://site.chinafinds.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/RestoredStreetChengdu.JPG
teahouses
http://www.dreams-travel.com/english/images/photolib/sichuan/tea3.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/junlin/seecd523627.jpg
nazrey August 4th, 2007, 12:29 PM Istana Jahar, Kota Baharu, Malaysia
Currently known as the Museum of Royal Traditions and Customs, Istana Jahar was a token from Sultan Mahmud II to his grandson, Long Kundur in 1800.
http://img32.picoodle.com/img/img32/8/6/27/f_14m_f09d1a4.jpg
Lestatlenoir August 6th, 2007, 12:19 AM Istana Jahar, Kota Baharu, Malaysia
Currently known as the Museum of Royal Traditions and Customs, Istana Jahar was a token from Sultan Mahmud II to his grandson, Long Kundur in 1800.
http://img32.picoodle.com/img/img32/8/6/27/f_14m_f09d1a4.jpg
Just curious... Do you know what is the function of the pedestal of 6 pillars...it is really beautiful!!
Danny Chua August 6th, 2007, 02:47 PM http://www.redbubble.com/rbimages/works_work_main_view/Lijiang_Rooftops_b_w.jpg http://www.eltartalo.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10001/normal_lijiang-tejados.jpg
Oooh... looks almost like the cities I build in Emperor, RotMK:
http://www.photodump.com/direct/Dann/11Loyi0150.jpg
Techno-Architect August 30th, 2007, 01:58 AM Traditional Architecture / Islamic Architecture / Mausoleum Architecture of Pakistan
Courtesy: Bibi Jiwindi's Tomb - Uch Sharif (UrbanPk.coM) (http://www.urbanpk.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=9224)
Designed by: N/A
Status: Completed
Construction Date: N/A
Completion Date: 1494 A.D.
Client: N/A
Contractors: N/A
Building Type: Funerary
Building Usage: Mausoleum/Tomb/Tourist Spot
Height: N/A
Location: N/A
Description: N/A
Pix:
Introduction
http://www.urbanpk.com/upkgallery/citypictures/Uch%20Sharif/Bahawal%20Halim%20Tomb/Uch%20Sharif%20-%20Bahawal%20Halim%20Tomb%20-%2000%20copy.jpg
http://www.urbanpk.com/upkgallery/citypictures/Uch%20Sharif/Bibi%20Jawindi/Uch%20Sharif%20-%20Bibi%20Jawindi%20Tomb%20-%2001%20copy.jpg
Remaining Facade
http://www.urbanpk.com/upkgallery/citypictures/Uch%20Sharif/Bibi%20Jawindi/Uch%20Sharif%20-%20Bibi%20Jawindi%20Tomb%20-%20Facades%20-%2001%20copy.jpg
http://www.urbanpk.com/upkgallery/citypictures/Uch%20Sharif/Bibi%20Jawindi/Uch%20Sharif%20-%20Bibi%20Jawindi%20Tomb%20-%20Facades%20-%2003%20copy.jpg
http://www.urbanpk.com/upkgallery/citypictures/Uch%20Sharif/Bibi%20Jawindi/Uch%20Sharif%20-%20Bibi%20Jawindi%20Tomb%20-%20Facades%20-%2004%20copy.jpg
http://www.urbanpk.com/upkgallery/citypictures/Uch%20Sharif/Bibi%20Jawindi/Uch%20Sharif%20-%20Bibi%20Jawindi%20Tomb%20-%20Facades%20-%2008%20copy.jpg
http://www.urbanpk.com/upkgallery/citypictures/Uch%20Sharif/Bibi%20Jawindi/Uch%20Sharif%20-%20Bibi%20Jawindi%20Tomb%20-%20Facades%20-%2009%20copy.jpg
http://www.urbanpk.com/upkgallery/citypictures/Uch%20Sharif/Bibi%20Jawindi/Uch%20Sharif%20-%20Bibi%20Jawindi%20Tomb%20-%20Facades%20-%2011%20copy.jpg
http://www.urbanpk.com/upkgallery/citypictures/Uch%20Sharif/Bibi%20Jawindi/Uch%20Sharif%20-%20Bibi%20Jawindi%20Tomb%20-%20Facades%20-%2013%20copy.jpg
http://www.urbanpk.com/upkgallery/citypictures/Uch%20Sharif/Bibi%20Jawindi/Uch%20Sharif%20-%20Bibi%20Jawindi%20Tomb%20-%20Facades%20-%2014%20copy.jpg
http://www.urbanpk.com/upkgallery/citypictures/Uch%20Sharif/Bibi%20Jawindi/Uch%20Sharif%20-%20Bibi%20Jawindi%20Tomb%20-%20Facades%20-%2016%20copy.jpg
Facade Details - Motifs
http://www.urbanpk.com/upkgallery/citypictures/Uch%20Sharif/Bibi%20Jawindi/Uch%20Sharif%20-%20Bibi%20Jawindi%20Tomb%20-%20Details%20-%2001%20copy.jpg
http://www.urbanpk.com/upkgallery/citypictures/Uch%20Sharif/Bibi%20Jawindi/Uch%20Sharif%20-%20Bibi%20Jawindi%20Tomb%20-%20Details%20-%2004%20copy.jpg
http://www.urbanpk.com/upkgallery/citypictures/Uch%20Sharif/Bibi%20Jawindi/Uch%20Sharif%20-%20Bibi%20Jawindi%20Tomb%20-%20Details%20-%2005%20copy.jpg
http://www.urbanpk.com/upkgallery/citypictures/Uch%20Sharif/Bibi%20Jawindi/Uch%20Sharif%20-%20Bibi%20Jawindi%20Tomb%20-%20Details%20-%2007%20copy.jpg
http://www.urbanpk.com/upkgallery/citypictures/Uch%20Sharif/Bibi%20Jawindi/Uch%20Sharif%20-%20Bibi%20Jawindi%20Tomb%20-%20Details%20-%2010%20copy.jpg
http://www.urbanpk.com/upkgallery/citypictures/Uch%20Sharif/Bibi%20Jawindi/Uch%20Sharif%20-%20Bibi%20Jawindi%20Tomb%20-%20Details%20-%2011%20copy.jpg
http://www.urbanpk.com/upkgallery/citypictures/Uch%20Sharif/Bibi%20Jawindi/Uch%20Sharif%20-%20Bibi%20Jawindi%20Tomb%20-%20Details%20-%2012%20copy.jpg
Rate It here: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=516913
Techno-Architect August 30th, 2007, 02:02 AM Traditional Architecture / Islamic Architecture / Mausoleum Architecture of Pakistan
Courtesty: Necropolis of Chawkhandi (UrbanPk.com) (http://www.urbanpk.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=8952)
Designed by: N/A
Status: Completed
Construction Date: N/A
Completion Date: N/A
Client: N/A
Contractors: N/A
Building Type: Necropolis/Graveyard
Building Usage: Graveyard + Tourist Site
Height: N/A
No. of Blocks: N/A
Area: N/A
Location: Chawkhandi
Description:
Chaukandi Tombs are generally attributed to the Jokhio and Baloch tribes. They are located in the Sindh province and were built between the fifteenth and eighteenth centuries. The word Chaukandi literally means "Four Corners". The tombs are built of yellow sandstone which was carried from Jung Shahi - a place near the city of Thatta. The most impressive tombs are the ones with pyramidal structure. The geometric designs that cover the entire surface of the tombs are extraordinary. The tombs of men are capped with a stylized turban and are carved with horses, arms and weapons. The tombs of women have been decorated with mostly jewelry, such as anklets, bracelets, necklaces, rings and earings.
Pix:
http://www.ayaz.com/photography/albums/Pakistan2005_ChaukandiTombs/CRW_3760.jpg
http://www.ayaz.com/photography/albums/Pakistan2005_ChaukandiTombs/CRW_3761.jpg
http://www.ayaz.com/photography/albums/Pakistan2005_ChaukandiTombs/CRW_3764.jpg
http://www.ayaz.com/photography/albums/Pakistan2005_ChaukandiTombs/CRW_3767.jpg
http://www.ayaz.com/photography/albums/Pakistan2005_ChaukandiTombs/CRW_3771.jpg
http://www.ayaz.com/photography/albums/Pakistan2005_ChaukandiTombs/CRW_3772.jpg
http://www.ayaz.com/photography/albums/Pakistan2005_ChaukandiTombs/CRW_3774.jpg
http://www.ayaz.com/photography/albums/Pakistan2005_ChaukandiTombs/tn_CRW_3777.jpg
http://www.ayaz.com/photography/albums/Pakistan2005_ChaukandiTombs/CRW_3778.jpg
http://www.ayaz.com/photography/albums/Pakistan2005_ChaukandiTombs/CRW_3779.jpg
http://www.ayaz.com/photography/albums/Pakistan2005_ChaukandiTombs/CRW_3786.jpg
http://www.ayaz.com/photography/albums/Pakistan2005_ChaukandiTombs/CRW_3787.jpg
http://www.ayaz.com/photography/albums/Pakistan2005_ChaukandiTombs/CRW_.jpg
http://www.ayaz.com/photography/albums/Pakistan2005_ChaukandiTombs/CRW_3792.jpg
http://www.ayaz.com/photography/albums/Pakistan2005_ChaukandiTombs/CRW_3793.jpg
http://www.ayaz.com/photography/albums/Pakistan2005_ChaukandiTombs/CRW_3797.jpg
http://www.ayaz.com/photography/albums/Pakistan2005_ChaukandiTombs/CRW_3806.jpg
http://www.ayaz.com/photography/albums/Pakistan2005_ChaukandiTombs/CRW_3808.jpg
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Courtesy: Ayaz Asif
Techno-Architect August 30th, 2007, 02:09 AM Traditional Architecture / Colonial Architecture / Urban Vernacular Architecture of Pakistan
Courtesy: Mohatta Palace Museum (UrbanPk.com) (http://www.urbanpk.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=9011&st=0&gopid=25494&#entry25494)
Designed by: N/A
Status: Completed/ etc
Construction Date: N/A
Completion Date: N/A
Restored by: Ar. Yasmin Lari [Lari Associates]
Restoration Date: N/A
Restoration Completion Date: N/A
Client: N/A
Contractors: N/A
Building Type: Residence
Building Usage: Museum/Public Gallery
Height: N/A
No. of Blocks: N/A
Area: N/A
Location: Clifton, Karachi
Pix:
Exterior
Facades
Front
http://www.urbanpk.com/images/staff/Techno-Architect/Tourz/Tour%20De%20Karachi%20DEC%2006/Day%202/Khi%20-%20MP%20-%20Elevation%20-%20Front%20-%2001%20copy.jpg
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http://www.urbanpk.com/images/staff/Techno-Architect/Tourz/Tour%20De%20Karachi%20DEC%2006/Day%202/Khi%20-%20MP%20-%20Elevation%20-%20Front%20-%2003%20copy.jpg
http://www.urbanpk.com/images/staff/Techno-Architect/Tourz/Tour%20De%20Karachi%20DEC%2006/Day%202/Khi%20-%20MP%20-%20Elevation%20-%20Front%20-%2004%20copy.jpg
Right
http://www.urbanpk.com/images/staff/Techno-Architect/Tourz/Tour%20De%20Karachi%20DEC%2006/Day%202/Khi%20-%20MP%20-%20Elevation%20-%20Right%20-%201%20copy.jpg
http://www.urbanpk.com/images/staff/Techno-Architect/Tourz/Tour%20De%20Karachi%20DEC%2006/Day%202/Khi%20-%20MP%20-%20Elevation%20-%20Right%20-%202%20copy.jpg
Details
http://www.urbanpk.com/images/staff/Techno-Architect/Tourz/Tour%20De%20Karachi%20DEC%2006/Day%202/Khi%20-%20MP%20-%20Elevation%20-%20Detail%20-%2001%20copy.jpg
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http://www.urbanpk.com/images/staff/Techno-Architect/Tourz/Tour%20De%20Karachi%20DEC%2006/Day%202/Khi%20-%20MP%20-%20Elevation%20-%20Detail%20-%2003%20copy.jpg
http://www.urbanpk.com/images/staff/Techno-Architect/Tourz/Tour%20De%20Karachi%20DEC%2006/Day%202/Khi%20-%20MP%20-%20Elevation%20-%20Detail%20-%2004%20copy.jpg
http://www.urbanpk.com/images/staff/Techno-Architect/Tourz/Tour%20De%20Karachi%20DEC%2006/Day%202/Khi%20-%20MP%20-%20Elevation%20-%20Detail%20-%2005%20copy.jpg
http://www.urbanpk.com/images/staff/Techno-Architect/Tourz/Tour%20De%20Karachi%20DEC%2006/Day%202/Khi%20-%20MP%20-%20Elevation%20-%20Detail%20-%2006%20copy.jpg
http://www.urbanpk.com/images/staff/Techno-Architect/Tourz/Tour%20De%20Karachi%20DEC%2006/Day%202/Khi%20-%20MP%20-%20Elevation%20-%20Detail%20-%2007%20copy.jpg
http://www.urbanpk.com/images/staff/Techno-Architect/Tourz/Tour%20De%20Karachi%20DEC%2006/Day%202/Khi%20-%20MP%20-%20Elevation%20-%20Detail%20-%2008%20copy.jpg
http://www.urbanpk.com/images/staff/Techno-Architect/Tourz/Tour%20De%20Karachi%20DEC%2006/Day%202/Khi%20-%20MP%20-%20Elevation%20-%20Detail%20-%2009%20copy.jpg
http://www.urbanpk.com/images/staff/Techno-Architect/Tourz/Tour%20De%20Karachi%20DEC%2006/Day%202/Khi%20-%20MP%20-%20Elevation%20-%20Detail%20-%2010%20copy.jpg
http://www.urbanpk.com/images/staff/Techno-Architect/Tourz/Tour%20De%20Karachi%20DEC%2006/Day%202/Khi%20-%20MP%20-%20Elevation%20-%20Detail%20-%2011%20copy.jpg
http://www.urbanpk.com/images/staff/Techno-Architect/Tourz/Tour%20De%20Karachi%20DEC%2006/Day%202/Khi%20-%20MP%20-%20Elevation%20-%20Detail%20-%2012%20copy.jpg
http://www.urbanpk.com/images/staff/Techno-Architect/Tourz/Tour%20De%20Karachi%20DEC%2006/Day%202/Khi%20-%20MP%20-%20Elevation%20-%20Detail%20-%2013%20copy.jpg
http://www.urbanpk.com/images/staff/Techno-Architect/Tourz/Tour%20De%20Karachi%20DEC%2006/Day%202/Khi%20-%20MP%20-%20Elevation%20-%20Detail%20-%2014%20copy.jpg
http://www.urbanpk.com/images/staff/Techno-Architect/Tourz/Tour%20De%20Karachi%20DEC%2006/Day%202/Khi%20-%20MP%20-%20Elevation%20-%20Detail%20-%2015%20copy.jpg
http://www.urbanpk.com/images/staff/Techno-Architect/Tourz/Tour%20De%20Karachi%20DEC%2006/Day%202/Khi%20-%20MP%20-%20Elevation%20-%20Detail%20-%2016%20copy.jpg
http://www.urbanpk.com/images/staff/Techno-Architect/Tourz/Tour%20De%20Karachi%20DEC%2006/Day%202/Khi%20-%20MP%20-%20Elevation%20-%20Detail%20-%2017%20copy.jpg
Rate the building here: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=514103
castermaild55 March 31st, 2008, 05:54 PM in Japan
http://photoimg.enjoyjapan.naver.com/view/enjoybbs/viewphoto/ptravel/61000/20080331120697234126541300.jpg
http://photoimg.enjoyjapan.naver.com/view/enjoybbs/viewphoto/ptravel/61000/20080331120697234261980400.jpg
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http://photoimg.enjoyjapan.naver.com/view/enjoybbs/viewphoto/ptravel/61000/20080331120697234777937700.jpg
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http://photoimg.enjoyjapan.naver.com/view/enjoybbs/viewphoto/ptravel/61000/20080331120697235230649400.jpg
http://photoimg.enjoyjapan.naver.com/view/enjoybbs/viewphoto/ptravel/61000/20080331120697235354682300.jpg
latdat April 16th, 2008, 03:22 PM Quy Nhon - Viet Nam
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/6540/imgp3202qy4.jpg
tpe April 17th, 2008, 01:31 AM The Garden to Linger In, Suzhou, and the classical Chinese garden.
(Pictures from flickr)
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1239/614485881_e38303f143.jpg?v=0
Openwork:
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1417/766278609_24d7433794.jpg?v=0
The hall can be opened up during summer:
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1363/766279519_9b87eb7aaa.jpg?v=0
Moon gate:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/42/87276658_765a2c4382.jpg?v=0
Ornamental windows, typical of what you see in gardens by a scholar's studio:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2191/2048653940_822fea238b.jpg?v=0
Covered walkways:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2174/2190317445_a005ae27f9.jpg?v=0
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2311/2047853927_7f598dc7f7.jpg?v=0
Ornamental pavement:
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1436/675491448_cfd1e4f500.jpg?v=0
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1354/675504858_116c90fcbf.jpg?v=0
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tpe April 17th, 2008, 06:05 PM Katsura Imperial Villa, in Kyoto. Refinement and elegance in simplicity.
Pictures from Flickr.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/129/416657150_be22ac96b1.jpg?v=0
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Panayanhon September 28th, 2012, 06:05 AM looks no update for this thread.:dunno:
Erran September 28th, 2012, 11:39 AM Okay, I'll update it then . . .
Minangkabau Architecture, West Sumatra, Indonesia
http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1412/1085495311_3203ec0d3a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mrlemonjelly/1085495311/)
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7159/6487053239_d717aeb3f3_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pra-yudi/6487053239/in/photostream/)
Pagaruyung Palace
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6177/6179092712_9d0852531a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/20189445@N00/6179092712/)
Detail ornaments and carvings
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6178/6178566299_6e4363e1d8_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/20189445@N00/6178566299/in/photostream/)
Mix between traditional and modern, Minangkabau International Airport
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7154/6575410917_ed0f3ec9aa_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/72590601@N02/6575416953/in/photostream/)
Erran September 28th, 2012, 11:51 AM Balinese Architecture, Bali, Indonesia
Pura Besakih
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7024/6783945645_7523a9ec55_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7010/6783948969_8f74176137_b.jpg
source (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sjaakvdb/6783937951/)
http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4073/4748747571_462a298b68_b.jpg
Gate
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3096/2824864864_1e5d44c479_b.jpg
Remember Dragon Ball's tournament gate? Yes that's inspired by Balinese Gapura.
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3261/2824041443_a457d863aa_b.jpg
Pura Ulundanu
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5042/5237513875_088037c1b2_b.jpg
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5087/5237462023_4dc62e579e_b.jpg
TheReconstructer September 28th, 2012, 07:00 PM ^^
Amazing architecture. I especially love the pagoda's :)
embassyofaudrey October 2nd, 2012, 07:27 PM http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/c13.0.403.403/p403x403/399087_10151151440114929_2012713190_n.jpg
waerebo traditional house/Indonesia. is it too traditional ? but i like this house.
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