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Sleepwalker March 3rd, 2008, 02:28 AM American firm interested in trans-axial dev’t project (http://www.philstar.com/index.php?Local%20News&p=52&type=2&sec=70&aid=20080302159)
The Freeman
Monday, March 3, 2008
An American-based company has expressed interest to undertake the P45-billion Cebu Trans-axial Development Project of the Cebu provincial government.
Quantum International, through its president Al Johnson, recently said that their company is “very keen on the wind power development” and wants to put up wind farms in three strategic areas along the proposed highway.
The 300-kilometer four-lane highway would be undertaken through a build-operate-transfer scheme. Of the whole stretch, 220 kilometers cover existing roads that need improvement, while 80 kilometers will be newly-built.
This scheme requires the developer to build the project at their expense then operate and manage it to cover the costs and generate income over a period of time.
This multi-billion peso project has four components – wind development, water development, economic zones development, and the agro-environmental development.
Cebu Vice Governor Gregorio Sanchez, the man behind the project, said that Quantum International is the sixth company to have expressed interest in the said endeavor.
Aside from Quantum, other investors include the United Engineers of Malaysia, the Iranian government, Dubai World, a Chinese company and a Singaporean company.
By April 20 the investors will be submitting their respective bidding proposal for the project to the committee. The notice of award is tentatively scheduled on April 28.
However, Sanchez said that the winning bidder of this proposed multibillion-peso infrastructure project will be chosen based on their ability to develop all components of the highways.
He also said that concern for the protection and conservation of the environment is a “plus factor”.
The highway will connect all municipalities of Cebu, with Santander as the farthest point in the south and Daanbantayan in the north.
If the highway gets realized, it will cut travel time by 40 percent.
The project will tap at least 120 rivers in Cebu as water sources. Windmill farms will be created to provide power.
At least P440.6 million will be used in the acquisition of road rights-of-way and the highway itself will cost the province P13 billion.
Construction is expected to start next year and will hopefully be finished by 2013. — Mitchelle L. Palaubsanon/MEV
This is the project that keeps me excited all the time...Thanks for the fresh updates on this Bai Jimbu... :)
I hope this will be materialize and i hope that politics won't affect this project.
Ex!lE March 3rd, 2008, 08:41 AM American firm interested in trans-axial dev’t project (http://www.philstar.com/index.php?Local%20News&p=52&type=2&sec=70&aid=20080302159)
Monday, March 3, 2008
An American-based company has expressed interest to undertake the P45-billion Cebu Trans-axial Development Project of the Cebu provincial government.
Quantum International, through its president Al Johnson, recently said that their company is “very keen on the wind power development” and wants to put up wind farms in three strategic areas along the proposed highway.
The 300-kilometer four-lane highway would be undertaken through a build-operate-transfer scheme. Of the whole stretch, 220 kilometers cover existing roads that need improvement, while 80 kilometers will be newly-built.
This scheme requires the developer to build the project at their expense then operate and manage it to cover the costs and generate income over a period of time.
This multi-billion peso project has four components – wind development, water development, economic zones development, and the agro-environmental development.
Cebu Vice Governor Gregorio Sanchez, the man behind the project, said that Quantum International is the sixth company to have expressed interest in the said endeavor.
Aside from Quantum, other investors include the United Engineers of Malaysia, the Iranian government, Dubai World, a Chinese company and a Singaporean company.
By April 20 the investors will be submitting their respective bidding proposal for the project to the committee. The notice of award is tentatively scheduled on April 28.
However, Sanchez said that the winning bidder of this proposed multibillion-peso infrastructure project will be chosen based on their ability to develop all components of the highways.
He also said that concern for the protection and conservation of the environment is a “plus factor”.
The highway will connect all municipalities of Cebu, with Santander as the farthest point in the south and Daanbantayan in the north.
If the highway gets realized, it will cut travel time by 40 percent.
The project will tap at least 120 rivers in Cebu as water sources. Windmill farms will be created to provide power.
At least P440.6 million will be used in the acquisition of road rights-of-way and the highway itself will cost the province P13 billion.
Construction is expected to start next year and will hopefully be finished by 2013. — Mitchelle L. Palaubsanon/MEV
papable March 3rd, 2008, 09:08 AM Underground system is very possible here. in fact in ayala properties (makati cbd and cbp. etc.), bgc and others, most wiring (electric, cable, telephone) are underground. But this is expensive and requires new infrastructure outlays, and consumers must be prepared to pay higher rates. Also we have problems with underground wiring like flooding, theft (pilferage) of both wiring and power, safety concerns, etc. But it is still entirely possible. Siguro, pag matapos na ang mga senate hearings at mga rallies, at bangayan ng mga politiko (kailan kaya?):bash::bash:
diehardbisdak March 6th, 2008, 04:17 PM edit
allan_dude March 15th, 2008, 02:10 PM American firm interested in trans-axial dev’t project (http://www.philstar.com/index.php?Local%20News&p=52&type=2&sec=70&aid=20080302159)
Monday, March 3, 2008
The 300-kilometer four-lane highway would be undertaken through a build-operate-transfer scheme. Of the whole stretch, 220 kilometers cover existing roads that need improvement, while 80 kilometers will be newly-built.
— Mitchelle L. Palaubsanon/MEV
Any pictures of the existing road/highway? :)
LordCarnal March 15th, 2008, 03:26 PM ^^
The existing roads I guess are the typical rural barangay roads that are narrow and unpaved..
The Cebuano Exultor March 17th, 2008, 06:30 AM An American-based company has expressed interest to undertake the P45-billion Cebu Trans-axial Development Project of the Cebu provincial government.
^^ That American firm planned cloverleafs and mountain underpasses/tunnels.
Given the very mountainous contour of the Trans-Axial Highway's route, how on Earth can those cloverleafs fit? :?
d@nggit March 26th, 2008, 12:15 AM Trans-Axial study over; staff contracts hang in the balance
By Jhunnex Napallacan
Cebu Daily News
First Posted 14:27:00 03/25/2008
CEBU CITY, Philippines – People hired for initial studies of the Cebu Trans-Axial Highway Project have only until March 31 before they no longer have to report for work.
Cebu Vice Governor Gregorio Sanchez confirmed Monday that their work contracts expire at the end of March.
The feasibility study for the 300-kilometer highway is already done, he said.
Now it’s up to Governor Gwendolyn Garcia whether to renew them and whether the infrastructure project will proceed.
Sanchez did not say how many personnel were affected but most are consultants and experts in fields of water, environment, bridge design, road construction, and power.
“I already turned over everything to the governor last January 25,” he said.
She will have it evaluated through the Provincial Economic Enterprise Council.
The highway project was supposed to be scheduled for international bidding this year.
Questions about the environmental impact of the highway, which cuts across several watershed in Central Cebu, were raised in January when reports about the project surfaced.
The feasibility study was completed after one year and three months, the vice governor said.
He said the study cost P15 million.
Of this amount, P6 million was spent for the purchase of tools and equipment.
LordCarnal March 26th, 2008, 05:51 AM ^^
Let's see how this will go especially on that part about environmental impact.
I have initial doubts about this before since this project will surely pass the protected landscape/National Park of Cebu City..
Below: Cebu City; the National Park is shaded green
(It's only now that I know that Cebu City shares boundaries with Toledo.)
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s223/arnold_carl/zoning-map.jpg
http://www.mingsworld.com/images/cebu/cebumap1L.jpg
...
animasola March 26th, 2008, 03:31 PM Regarding the Windmills, why not use Magnetic Wind Turbines instead? I got the link from TambayBlues's post at another thread.
http://www.inhabitat.com/wp-content/uploads/maglev2.jpg
Maglev wind turbines have several advantages over conventional wind turbines. For instance, they’re able to use winds with starting speeds as low as 1.5 meters per second (m/s). It would also increase generation capacity by 20% over conventional wind turbines and decrease operational costs by 50%. If that isn’t enough, the maglev wind turbines will be operational for about 500 years!
diehardbisdak March 26th, 2008, 03:47 PM ^^ what's the price tag?
animasola March 26th, 2008, 04:23 PM ^^50M USD man siguro.
Jimbu March 30th, 2008, 06:21 PM PB to receive updates on Trans-Axial project (http://www.philstar.com/index.php?Local%20News&p=52&type=2&sec=70&aid=20080330161)
The Freeman
Monday, March 31, 2008
A progress report on the multi-billion Cebu Trans-Axial Development Project will be presented today at the Provincial Board’s regular session.
Vice Governor Gregorio Sanchez Jr., the brain behind this project, said the PB must be updated with the project, which will be undertaken under a build-operate-transfer scheme.
Less than a month from now, or on April 20, interested investors will submit to the provincial panel their respective bids. The notice of award has been tentatively scheduled for April 28. Construction is expected to start next year, and to be finished by 2013.
Sanchez said the winning bidder will be chosen on its ability to develop all components of the highways, without disregarding concerns for the protection and conservation of the environment within and around the project area. The project will tap at least 120 rivers in Cebu as water sources.
There have been so far six investors who have expressed interest in the P45 billion project, which has four components: Wind development, water development, economic zones development, and agro-environmental development.
One of these investors is Quantum International, an American-based company, whose president Al Johnson recently said his company has been very keen on wind power development. The firm planned to put up wind farms in three strategic areas along the proposed highway.
Other investors are the United Engineers of Malaysia, the Iranian government, the Dubai World, and one each from China and Singapore.
A 300-kilometer four-lane highway will be built at an estimated cost of P13 billion. Two-hundred-twenty kilometers of this stretch cover existing roads that only need improvement, while the remaining length of 80 kilometers will be constructed.
At least P440.6 million will be used in the road-right-of-way acquisition along the planned highway, which has been designed to link the towns of Cebu from Santander, the farthest part in the south, to Daanbantayan, the farthest in the north.
Once this highway gets realized, it will cut travel time between north and south by 40 percent, said Sanchez. — Mitchelle L. Palaubsanon/RAE
LordCarnal March 31st, 2008, 05:21 AM wow so next month na pala ang submission of bids..
Sinjin P. March 31st, 2008, 08:40 AM Exciting... :yes:
Colonel Burger April 1st, 2008, 01:47 AM Hope its a tollway similar to NLEX, SLEX and SCTEx
Ex!lE April 1st, 2008, 04:17 AM Hope its a tollway similar to NLEX, SLEX and SCTEx
Status of trans-axial project presented to PB (http://http://www.philstar.com/index.php?Local%20News&p=52&type=2&sec=70&aid=20080331143)
Tuesday, April 1, 2008
The Cebu Trans-Axial Development Project study group yesterday presented the status of the proposed multibillion project before the members of the Provincial Board during their regular session.
Vice Governor Gregorio Sanchez Jr., the PB presiding officer and the brains of the project, said that the provincial government will shoulder acquisition of the 760-hectare road right-of-way amounting between P400 million to P500 million.
For such move, Sanchez explained that the province is expected to earn at least P3 billion per year in real property taxes as a result of land conversion.
The 300-kilometer four-lane highway, seen to connect all municipalities of Cebu with Santander as the farthest point in the south and Daanbantayan in the north, would be undertaken through a build-operate-transfer scheme. Of the whole stretch, 220 kilometers cover existing roads that need improvement, while 80 kilometers will be newly built.
Sanchez said the provincial government has allocated P15 million for the preparation of this project and that, so far, around P12 million were already spent.
The highway would cut travel time by 40 percent. It will also disperse development to the countryside.
Further, the project will tap at least 120 rivers in Cebu as water sources. Windmill farms will be created to provide much needed power.
Aside from wind, water, economic zones and agro-environmental developments, the project also covers the establishments of five rest areas wherein restaurants and cafés will be put up. Sites eyed are Bagakay in Sogod; Santican in Danao City; Cantabaco in Toledo City; Basak in Sibonga; and Nug-as in Alcoy.
Twelve toll fee plazas will be constructed and a 1.6-kilometer tunnel will be built in Tungalub, Oslob. — Mitchelle L. Palaubsanon/MEEV
RonnieR April 1st, 2008, 04:26 AM Another great project for Cebu!
diz April 1st, 2008, 05:07 AM Nice !!! The CTAEx will be great!
papable April 1st, 2008, 05:17 AM Nice !!! The CTAEx will be great!
Mukhang hindi yata magandang pakinggan ang acronym. :jk:
Sinjin P. April 1st, 2008, 05:20 AM It should just be called CIEx (Cebu Island Expressway) or CEx (Cebu Expressway) :lol:
diz April 1st, 2008, 05:25 AM ^ Gusto ko yung CEx. :lol:
Mukhang hindi yata magandang pakinggan ang acronym. :jk:
:lol: ngayon ko lang nakita yun
Sinjin P. April 1st, 2008, 06:18 AM "I wanna have a CExy experience" :rofl:
D'Transporter April 1st, 2008, 06:27 AM It should be called D'Autobahn :D :D
technoblaze April 7th, 2008, 04:46 PM Few more months to Go:banana:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b337/hurtyp/Cebucebucorridor2.jpg
Sinjin P. April 8th, 2008, 05:56 AM ^ Really? I thought it wasn't progressing. :)
-sharkleman125- April 8th, 2008, 07:32 AM Few more months to Go:banana:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b337/hurtyp/Cebucebucorridor2.jpg
di ba ang completion date ay apr.2009????
diz April 8th, 2008, 07:36 AM that's in a few more months! 12!
Juan Pilgrim April 8th, 2008, 07:07 PM I'm looking forward to my direct flight to Cebu for sa much needed r & r.
Ariba Cebu!!!
The Cebuano Exultor April 9th, 2008, 02:02 AM I'm looking forward to my direct flight to Cebu for sa much needed r & r.
Ariba Cebu!!!
^^ Did you mean: rest and relaxation?
flesh_is_weak April 10th, 2008, 06:56 PM bad news here...it was in the front page of SunStar today, Cebu Island's most vital east-west link, the Transcentral Road is in a very bad condition, apparently with some sections at a risk for crumbling down :ohno:
The Cebuano Exultor April 11th, 2008, 08:25 AM ^^ That gives them, the provincial government officials, ever more reasons why the Cebu Trans-Axial Highway should get-off the drawing board as soon as possible. :yes:
Elbojemio April 11th, 2008, 10:55 AM ^^ That American firm planned cloverleafs and mountain underpasses/tunnels.
Given the very mountainous contour of the Trans-Axial Highway's route, how on Earth can those cloverleafs fit? :?
This might help answer your question.
www.hooverdambypass.org/Const_PhotoAlbum.htm
Its the ongoing improvement of Highway 93 connecting nevada and arizona passing thru hoover dam. The terrain is mountainous too.
Cheers!!!
Sinjin P. April 11th, 2008, 10:56 AM Random thought: What is the status of the Cebu North Coastal Road Project?
ivanc April 11th, 2008, 01:05 PM "CEX" sounds a bit green... para nako lng...
P1: Traffic man ron, mag unsa nalang ta?
P2: Mag "CEX" nalang ta! boink!
okay ang C-TEX (See-Tex) Cebu Trans-Axial Expressway
Sinjin P. April 11th, 2008, 01:13 PM Lets just name it later. What's important is that it should get built asap! :D
animasola April 11th, 2008, 03:07 PM ^^Yea, I'd like to ask the same question as well. Wasn't there a plan to connect NRA to the NCR? I thought they were gonna widen some street in Mandaue to connect NRA, the road to the second bridge and the NCR.
LordCarnal April 12th, 2008, 01:38 PM ^^
I think that would definitely connect Ouano avenue in Mandaue recla..
So now we'll have a wide highway that will connect north and south via the tunnel underneath Plaza Independencia..
..
tuxedo_blue April 12th, 2008, 05:26 PM mga bai, musta nman 2ng mga projek about sa bridge linking ceb-negros and ceb-bohol?
Jarenz April 13th, 2008, 07:30 PM Banilad Flyover
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u177/Jarenz_038/Under%20Construction/baniladflyover.jpg
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u177/Jarenz_038/Under%20Construction/baniladflyover-1.jpg
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u177/Jarenz_038/Under%20Construction/baniladflyover-2.jpg
Sinjin P. April 14th, 2008, 04:17 AM ^ When were those photos taken? Seems like there's no progress at all.
The Cebuano Exultor April 14th, 2008, 08:31 AM They are still waiting for the cement that was poured into those crane-bored holes to harden before they start putting-up the flyover's posts. :)
Jarenz April 16th, 2008, 05:25 PM ^ When were those photos taken? Seems like there's no progress at all.
Last week...
You can't see any progress in the pic .. if you look closely on the site...
The metal bars are installed already for the foundation ...
3 weeks by now the foundation will be visible in the road...
Jarenz April 23rd, 2008, 01:27 AM Banilad Road Widening
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u177/Jarenz_038/Under%20Construction/roadwidening.jpg
PINOYmeat April 23rd, 2008, 01:51 AM ^^ i dont think its right to say that its a road widening, its just an initiative of gaisano country mall to "sacrifice" a portion of their parking lot to give the road a much needed space. before and after the country mall, the road is still the same, no widening whatsoever.
barukdok April 24th, 2008, 02:54 AM OT: good day, does anyone here know where to find a list of barangays covered by the watershed? thanks.
ivanc April 27th, 2008, 03:50 PM i hope this flyover gets finished soon... dili ko mag masteral until dili ni mahuman (usc-tc) hehehehe :)
animasola April 27th, 2008, 03:52 PM Any updates regarding this project? I hope they have it finished asap.
Sinjin P. April 27th, 2008, 04:10 PM The bidding is set for tomorrow, right?
diehardbisdak April 27th, 2008, 04:17 PM ^^ really? ...meron bang news article tungkol sa bidding ...i never thought that this project will be done asap...
Sinjin P. April 27th, 2008, 04:22 PM Well this is the most recent article which mentioned such a date.
American firm interested in trans-axial dev’t project (http://www.philstar.com/index.php?Local%20News&p=52&type=2&sec=70&aid=20080302159)
Monday, March 3, 2008
An American-based company has expressed interest to undertake the P45-billion Cebu Trans-axial Development Project of the Cebu provincial government.
Quantum International, through its president Al Johnson, recently said that their company is “very keen on the wind power development” and wants to put up wind farms in three strategic areas along the proposed highway.
The 300-kilometer four-lane highway would be undertaken through a build-operate-transfer scheme. Of the whole stretch, 220 kilometers cover existing roads that need improvement, while 80 kilometers will be newly-built.
This scheme requires the developer to build the project at their expense then operate and manage it to cover the costs and generate income over a period of time.
This multi-billion peso project has four components – wind development, water development, economic zones development, and the agro-environmental development.
Cebu Vice Governor Gregorio Sanchez, the man behind the project, said that Quantum International is the sixth company to have expressed interest in the said endeavor.
Aside from Quantum, other investors include the United Engineers of Malaysia, the Iranian government, Dubai World, a Chinese company and a Singaporean company.
By April 20 the investors will be submitting their respective bidding proposal for the project to the committee. The notice of award is tentatively scheduled on April 28.
However, Sanchez said that the winning bidder of this proposed multibillion-peso infrastructure project will be chosen based on their ability to develop all components of the highways.
He also said that concern for the protection and conservation of the environment is a “plus factor”.
The highway will connect all municipalities of Cebu, with Santander as the farthest point in the south and Daanbantayan in the north.
If the highway gets realized, it will cut travel time by 40 percent.
The project will tap at least 120 rivers in Cebu as water sources. Windmill farms will be created to provide power.
At least P440.6 million will be used in the acquisition of road rights-of-way and the highway itself will cost the province P13 billion.
Construction is expected to start next year and will hopefully be finished by 2013. — Mitchelle L. Palaubsanon/MEV
I wonder if any bidding proposals were submitted on April 20. :dunno:
flesh_is_weak April 27th, 2008, 05:07 PM ^^asa ang bidding? basin pwede ta mag-eavesdrop
Jarenz April 28th, 2008, 12:42 AM Camp Lapu-lapu road will undergo repair and rehabilitation
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u177/Jarenz_038/Under%20Construction/lahug.jpg
technoblaze April 28th, 2008, 10:28 AM BANILAD FLY OVER
http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/6489/img1053copywj5.jpg
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/6168/img1055copyst4.jpg
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/12/img1056copyvz0.jpg
http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/4669/img1057copyrg7.jpg
Goku_25 April 28th, 2008, 11:14 AM Once if this expressway in Cebu Island is complete, It could be Visayas' First Expressway. It might be a solution to a heavy traffic on that island.
barrera_marquez April 28th, 2008, 11:19 AM Once if this expressway in Cebu Island is complete, It could be Visayas' First Expressway. It might be a solution to a heavy traffic on that island.
Aba expressway pala ito. Nawa'y matapos nga ito para sa inyong mga Cebuano.
Nakasulat na iyan sa Wikipedia pero wala pa ring article.
markangbungo April 28th, 2008, 01:17 PM hopefully this will be materialize soon
markangbungo April 28th, 2008, 01:19 PM ^^ i really wish veco would consider going underground rather than going higher into the sky..
i strongly agree
KulasKusgan April 30th, 2008, 11:36 AM veco is planting taller/concrete electric posts everywhere... are they planning to change/remove all the shorter posts?? i think it may minimize the number of spaghetti wires :)
i guess those taller posts are for transmission (from generation substation to distributor's substation/napocor to veco or from veco's main substation to mini-substations scattered all over the city). smaller ones are for distribution (veco's substation to households).
Goku_25 May 1st, 2008, 04:11 AM Aba expressway pala ito. Nawa'y matapos nga ito para sa inyong mga Cebuano.
Nakasulat na iyan sa Wikipedia pero wala pa ring article.
Nuong nakita ko sa Wikipedia, nakalista na pala ang Cebu Trans-Axial Expressway pero wala pang article.
Kapag natapos ang lahat ng mga expressway projects sa buong Pilipinas, Nakuu, natalbugan na pala natin ang Malaysia!
Ang Expressway kasi sa Malaysia, nasa Malay Peninsula pa lamang. Ang haba nung expressway doon, simula sa border ng Thailand hanggang Johor Bahru, malapit sa Singapore.
barrera_marquez May 1st, 2008, 06:09 AM Could we build an expressway that is parallel with Maharlika Highway? Yung mula Tuguegarao City hanggang Zamboanga City.
Goku_25 May 1st, 2008, 11:18 AM Could we build an expressway that is parallel with Maharlika Highway? Yung mula Tuguegarao City hanggang Zamboanga City.
It depends on geography. Some parts of expressways are not only parallel to main road, but also bypasses incompatible areas.
Maybe in the near future, we could have expressway from Laoag and Tugegarao to Zamboanga through tunneling and inter-island suspension bridges.
nab_uang May 1st, 2008, 04:18 PM ban-tal flyover just makes such a pain in the ass... they better do it faster...
Ejames May 3rd, 2008, 08:28 AM the month of june is coming, wherein classes start is
fast approaching... can't imagine what will be the situation
if this flyover won't be finished within this month.. i'm from
usctc and if this project can't be done this May then
me and my classmates would prefer to walk heading to foodland
because if we're going to ride a jeepney towards ayala,
it would take an hour from usctc to foodland,., ano ba naman tong
nagcoconstruct dito di man lang binilisan.,,.. di man lng kami
inisip mga studyante,... from usctc,uv,cdu,bright academy, woodridge, banilad elem, etc.. :ohno::ohno::ohno::ohno::ohno:
Ejames May 3rd, 2008, 09:03 AM good for cebu if this project will commence next year...:cheers:
dabert May 4th, 2008, 02:14 AM ^^ i don't believe any contractor can finish a bridge/flyover within just a month or two. :D
LordCarnal May 4th, 2008, 04:19 PM ^^
six months diba?
technoblaze May 5th, 2008, 03:34 AM ^^i think the contract is 150 days.. maybe by july it will be finished.
tuxedo_blue May 6th, 2008, 12:34 AM gud am! any updates for this project? atat na kaaU q... hinaot nga pagasugdan na kini!
The Cebuano Exultor May 7th, 2008, 10:33 AM By April 20 the investors will be submitting their respective bidding proposal for the project to the committee. The notice of award is tentatively scheduled on April 28.
^^ It's already the 7th of May 2007. So, which bidder was awarded the contract for this project's construction, last April 28?
PasigGuy May 8th, 2008, 03:00 AM Nuong nakita ko sa Wikipedia, nakalista na pala ang Cebu Trans-Axial Expressway pero wala pang article.
Kapag natapos ang lahat ng mga expressway projects sa buong Pilipinas, Nakuu, natalbugan na pala natin ang Malaysia!
Ang Expressway kasi sa Malaysia, nasa Malay Peninsula pa lamang. Ang haba nung expressway doon, simula sa border ng Thailand hanggang Johor Bahru, malapit sa Singapore.
this is true, I land traveled this from Penang island (crossing the long bridge to peninsular down to Johor.
I even tried the expressway going to East coast connecting the towns of Kerteh, Kuala Terranganu and Kuantan that crosses the mountains in Genting Highlands (imagine, 4-6 lanes expressway in mountainous areas to east coast)
..good infrastracture.
I think for now, we need so much to do and years (+10) to catch up with MY, as this is the best infra in ASEAN. we need to catch up first with Thailand before Malaysia.
Goku_25 May 8th, 2008, 03:20 AM this is true, I land traveled this from Penang island (crossing the long bridge to peninsular down to Johor.
I even tried the expressway going to East coast connecting the towns of Kerteh, Kuala Terranganu and Kuantan that crosses the mountains in Genting Highlands (imagine, 4-6 lanes expressway in mountainous areas to east coast)
..good infrastracture.
I think for now, we need so much to do and years (+10) to catch up with MY, as this is the best infra in ASEAN. we need to catch up first with Thailand before Malaysia.
We can catch up Thailand in terms of economy because it is stagnating due to military junta. Even Thailand has better roads, still, there's a traffic problem.
I think it's very difficult for us to surpass Malaysia because we still have not enough funds for all ambitious expressway projects all over the archipelago.
barrera_marquez May 8th, 2008, 06:09 AM Alam ninyo kahit tadtarin natin ng expressways ang Luzon, paano naman ang Visayas at Mindanao? Ang Trans-axial ang sasagot sa Visayas pero ang mga kapatid natin sa Mindanao? Drawing board pa rin ang Cagayan de Oro-Davao Road at hindi pa malaman kung gagawing expressway iyon (sana) kaya mahirap...
Pero kung makakagawa tayo ng expressway mula Aparri hanggang Zamboanga City then malalamangan na natin ang Malaysia kasi it would require bridges like the Golden Gate Bridge in US.
diz May 8th, 2008, 06:24 AM ^ IMO, the main priority of all presidents is a major airport like the one planned for Clark and a road expressway that links Laoag to Zamboanga City with the major cities of Manila, Cebu, Davao, Bacolod, Iloilo, CDO etc connected by bridges.
futuriztikmynd May 8th, 2008, 08:26 AM All of our dreams for a progressive Philippines will be far from reality if the government budget is always being cut in half or more than that, just for their personal purposes.:)
Ex!lE May 10th, 2008, 09:16 AM Alam ninyo kahit tadtarin natin ng expressways ang Luzon, paano naman ang Visayas at Mindanao? Ang Trans-axial ang sasagot sa Visayas pero ang mga kapatid natin sa Mindanao? Drawing board pa rin ang Cagayan de Oro-Davao Road at hindi pa malaman kung gagawing expressway iyon (sana) kaya mahirap...
Pero kung makakagawa tayo ng expressway mula Aparri hanggang Zamboanga City then malalamangan na natin ang Malaysia kasi it would require bridges like the Golden Gate Bridge in US.
existing na po ang CDO-Davao road, di nga lang expressway.
Jimbu May 10th, 2008, 07:08 PM Drivers oppose BRT system for Banilad (http://www.philstar.com/index.php?Local%20News&p=52&type=2&sec=70&aid=20080510195)
The Freeman
Sunday, May 11, 2008
Different transport groups in Cebu expressed concern on the city government’s plan to implement a Bus Rapid Transit system in the city and the proposal to have a light rail transit in Metro Cebu.
They said that while this kind of transport system is beneficial to the commuters, since this means speed and convenience, the drivers and operators of public utility vehicles especially jeepneys and tricycles are also in danger of being dislocated.
Alex Bordadora, chairman of the Visayas United Drivers Transport Cooperative, said they have nothing against the mass transport system because it is part of progress but said the government should also look at the welfare of the rest of the transport sector.
“Sa paglambo sa transport system dili unta mawani ang ubang tawo nga naay kalabotan sa transport. If ma-dislocate unya ang mga drivers, asa man ibutang sa gobyerno kining mga tawhana?” he asked.
Bordadora said he is concerned because most of the investors that fund the mass transport systems are only after profit and do not look at the interest of the sectors affected.
Ryan Yu, managing director of the Cebu Integrated Transport Service Cooperative, agreed with Bordadora saying that during the implementing stage of the mass transport system the government should have a program for the affected drivers.
He doubts that the city is ready for the implementation of the BRT because the roads in the city are narrow and not designed for the implementation of the mass transport system.
Mayor Tomas Osmeña wants to pilot the implementation of a BRT system in the Banilad area to decongest traffic.
The mayor earlier said that in a BRT system, buses are stairless and that passengers will only ride in designated terminals. Buses of this kind are not allowed to pick up or unload passengers in non-designated areas, thereby lessening the traffic. This kind of transport system is patterned after the BRT system of Curitiba, Brazil.
Osmeña said that once the system is fully implemented, no more PUJs - and even private vehicles - would be allowed to pass by the area.
But Rex Tidalgo, provincial coordinator of the Nagkahiusang Drayber sa Sugbo, said that they suspect the officials in Cebu are now starting to implement the mass transit system in Cebu.
He said that in fact, the many drivers are now suffering because of the KMK buses that ply the routes of Minglanilla to SM and vice-versa.
“Ila nang gihinay-hinay’g implementar na karon ang mass transport kay gusto nila natural ang paghunong sa mga operators, nga sila (operators) na mismo mo-quit kay apektado sila sa mga buses,” Tidalgo said.
Likewise, he said that House Bill 0214 was filed in 2004 seeking to create the Metro Cebu Traffic Authority, which will function like the Metro Manila Development Authority.
Different transport groups yesterday attended a forum-discussion on the proposed mass transport system in Cebu held at CENDET.
City Planning and Development coordinator Nigel Paul Villarete was one of the invited speakers but he was not able to come because he fell ill.
In a telephone interview, Villarete said that the proposed BRT system in Banilad cannot be implemented soon because the city has just submitted its formal request to the World Bank to study the proposal.
“The displacement of drivers and things like that are also to be addressed. But it does not mean that if they will be displaced, di na lang ta mag-implement. As we progress, there are also changes in the mode of transportation,” he said.
Villarete also said that he understands the concern of the drivers and operators but “by simply objecting to it will only compound the problem.”
Meanwhile, the Cebu City Police Office will be fielding policemen on the streets tomorrow for the rumored transport strike.
Sr. Supt. Patrocinio Comendador told reporters that he already instructed the Traffic Group to identify possible chokepoints where members of the hardliner transport groups may post themselves to convince other drivers to join them.
Piston, a transport group in Manila, has announced that they will be staging a nationwide strike among its sub-group members in protest of the continued rise in oil prices in the world market calling the scrapping of the Oil Deregulation Law.
But the Piston sub-group in Cebu, the Nagkahiusang Drayber sa Sugbu, has yet to meet with its chapter leaders to discuss what sort of protest they will staging tomorrow, if any.
Nadsu Secretary General Ruben Rama in a telephone interview told The FREEMAN that their group has not yet finalized their plans for tomorrow’s transport strike but said they would surely have one to support the calls of various groups in the country against the rising cost of fuel.
Rama said they will demand for the implementation of the P7.50 minimum fare for the first four kilometers and one peso for every succeeding kilometer as agreed in 2004 by the Land Transportation Franchising and Regulatory Board-7. — Wenna A. Berondo and Edwin Ian Melecio/MEEV
flesh_is_weak May 10th, 2008, 07:14 PM ^^sometimes, a few sacrifices have to be made for the good of the majority...those who resist change, only end up destroying themselves and those that surround them...if those drivers see the threat of the coming change to their livelihood, then they should look for ways to prepare themselves...and alternative livelihood would be good...besides not all of them would be losing their jobs, i'm sure that the best among them (or at least the well connected) would end up working for the BRT...
at least we're looking at the beginnings of a world-class transit system for Metro Cebu...hopefully in 10-15 years, it could grow to something like this...
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g304/ether_2006/cebusubway.jpg
Jimbu May 12th, 2008, 06:53 PM Cebu City still open to proposal for MRT (http://www.philstar.com/index.php?Local%20News&p=52&type=2&sec=70&aid=20080512155)
The Freeman
Tuesday, May 13, 2008
Cebu City remains open to the Mass Rail Transit that the Department of Transportation and Communication is eyeing to build from Talisay City to Mandaue City.
In a letter to Guiling Mamondiong, DOTC Undersecretary for Railways, Mayor Tomas Osmeña admitted that the city is looking for other means to develop its own urban mass transport system but the same does not mean it has closed its doors to an MRT.
“A rail-based system will remain an open option to us, and we trust the department will come up with a rational judgment on what form the urban mass transport system in Cebu will be, considering your mandate and long experience in the sector,” the letter read.
DOTC has sought clarification on what Cebu City really prefers —a Bus Rapid Transit system or a rail-based system— following a report in a national daily that Cebu City is eyeing implementing a BRT system.
In a discussion sponsored by the World Bank and Asian Development Bank in February, Osmeña had expressed interest in wanting to test the BRT system along the city’s northern corridor to address traffic at the Banilad-Talamban area.
Osmeña explained that the article reflects the preference of the city premise on the scenario that it has to take care of the transport needs on its own owing to the lack of support of the national government, specifically the DOTC. :ohno:
Osmeña further explained that until such time that the MRT is in place here, the city government will continue to seek other means to carry out a mass transport system.
“Until such time the department will take concrete steps in establishing a mass transport system in Cebu, the city government of Cebu will be constrained to continue seeking other means and finding avenues of cooperation and assistance, so that ultimately, such system will be realized for our people,” the letter reads.
Osmeña expressed disappointment that not a single meter or rail or similar kind of transportation is in place since 1991 when a feasibility study was initiated for the establishment of a mass transport system in Cebu.
The mayor said that Cebu City continues to respect DOTC’s overall mandate to develop transportation services throughout the country but the city cannot just wait forever for its turn to be developed considering its rapid growth as an urban zone.
“While we note that the DOTC, shall be the primary policy, planning, programming, coordinating, implementing, regulating and administrative entity of the executive branch of the government in the promotion, development and regulation of dependable and coordinated network of transportation and communication systems, as well as in the fast, safe, efficient and reliable postal, transportation and communications services, we also sadly note the undeniable fact that nothing has been done by the department in the development of urban transportation in major urban centers of the country outside of Metro Manila,” the letter further reads.
Yet Osmeña clarified that Cebu City will welcome any kind of urban mass transport system DOTC may implement in Cebu City, be it rail-based or road-based, for as long as the city will be included in the decision-making process and for as long as it will incur no cost to the city government.
The establishment of an MRT from Talisay to Mandaue came as an unsolicited proposal from the AMA Group to DOTC.
City planning office chief Nigel Paul Villarete said that in a meeting last year, DOTC reportedly asked if the city and local businesses are willing to shoulder the cost of the expenses to implement the mass transit system.
Villarete said the same is unfair because the local government units in Luzon wherein DOTC carried out mass transit systems were reportedly not made to shell out any centavo for the projects. :ohno:
Villarete argued that the implementation of mass transit systems across the country is part of national development, thus, it should be the national government that should shoulder the expenses. — Joeberth M. Ocao/BRP
flesh_is_weak May 13th, 2008, 12:51 PM ^^hmm, some info in there could have powered the arsenal of the federalists in the now defunct federalism thread
D'Transporter May 16th, 2008, 04:15 PM How is the progress of the tunnelling work underneath plaza independencia??
LordCarnal May 17th, 2008, 11:36 AM ^^
Here's the latest. Lots of workers at the site and at the other side too. Sorry for the bad quality.
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s223/arnold_carl/cebu_travel/may17/01_srp.jpg
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s223/arnold_carl/cebu_travel/may17/02_srp.jpg
Mercato May 17th, 2008, 03:41 PM ^^hmm, some info in there could have powered the arsenal of the federalists in the now defunct federalism threadTrue… I’d oft wondered why it was considered too volatile?? I thought it was rather tame & it was fun toying with some... Any chance of a re-opening? At least the English thread was redeemed.
DOTC has sought clarification on what Cebu City really prefers —a Bus Rapid Transit system or a rail-based system— following a report in a national daily that Cebu City is eyeing implementing a BRT system.
In a discussion sponsored by the World Bank and Asian Development Bank in February, Osmeña had expressed interest in wanting to test the BRT system along the city’s northern corridor to address traffic at the Banilad-Talamban area.
Osmeña explained that the article reflects the preference of the city premise on the scenario that it has to take care of the transport needs on its own owing to the lack of support of the national government, specifically the DOTC. :ohno:
Osmeña further explained that until such time that the MRT is in place here, the city government will continue to seek other means to carry out a mass transport system.
“Until such time the department will take concrete steps in establishing a mass transport system in Cebu, the city government of Cebu will be constrained to continue seeking other means and finding avenues of cooperation and assistance, so that ultimately, such system will be realized for our people,” the letter reads.
Osmeña expressed disappointment that not a single meter or rail or similar kind of transportation is in place since 1991 when a feasibility study was initiated for the establishment of a mass transport system in Cebu.
The mayor said that Cebu City continues to respect DOTC’s overall mandate to develop transportation services throughout the country but the city cannot just wait forever for its turn to be developed considering its rapid growth as an urban zone.
IMHO, it cannot be ONLY a pure B.R.T. system, existing inner city roads are too small. (If I’m imagining standard HK double deck buses or Singapore’s SMRT buses.) It should be a combi-type M.R.T. (trains as the backbone) to be supplemented by the B.R.T. for the feeder lines, just like in Singapore. Payment method copied from the EZ link e-card (one card) for both bus and train or the Octopus sytem of HK.
Why must the local government be hampered by the DOTC? Can it not engage in outsourcing or negotiating with foreign contractors directly? :sly:
tuxedo_blue May 17th, 2008, 05:07 PM True… I’d oft wondered why it was considered too volatile?? I thought it was rather tame & it was fun toying with some... Any chance of a re-opening? At least the English thread was redeemed.
IMHO, it cannot be ONLY a pure B.R.T. system, existing inner city roads are too small. (If I’m imagining standard HK double deck buses or Singapore’s SMRT buses.) It should be a combi-type M.R.T. (trains as the backbone) to be supplemented by the B.R.T. for the feeder lines, just like in Singapore. Payment method copied from the EZ link e-card (one card) for both bus and train or the Octopus sytem of HK.
Why must the local government be hampered by the DOTC? Can it not engage in outsourcing or negotiating with foreign contractors directly? :sly:
i think it can but to spend P0 for the implementation would be better. :)
tuxedo_blue May 17th, 2008, 05:13 PM hay nako! kanus-a pa man tawn ni ui?! :ohno:
Mercato May 17th, 2008, 05:29 PM ^^^^
Then it should. Para sugdan na, hai'labi nga mao'rag makililimos sila nga sigueg pangayo'g ayuda sa kahitas-an. The more the DOTC footdrags, the more it limits growth; whereas if the infrastructure is in place, growth is unhampered.
My further dream is to connect all the coastal towns & cities of Cebu Province to Cebu City by a system of Heavy Trains. Heavy trains for Cebu province (like in Japan); MRT for Metro Cebu...
flesh_is_weak May 18th, 2008, 12:26 AM since it seems that they dont intend to change the subway sign over the entrance to the underpass, why wont they just go on and build an actual subway system then? :lol:
they could put the central terminus under magellan's cross or somewhere near it...:lol:
LordCarnal May 18th, 2008, 05:54 AM ^^
How about a real subway but using buses that are connected with each other instead of a real train? So it would be a BRT in a tunnel, hehe.. :nuts:
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Mercato May 18th, 2008, 08:41 AM ^^ it will de-populate Cebu. everyone will die of carbon monoxide poisoning...
a_terisk78y™ May 18th, 2008, 10:36 AM mayta lang daun ang CEx hehe:lol:
btaw hopefuli mo daun na ni...para daghan pod suroy-suroyan sa cebu
crossfinger!
technoblaze May 18th, 2008, 12:31 PM My further dream is to connect all the coastal towns & cities of Cebu Province to Cebu City by a system of Heavy Trains. Heavy trains for Cebu province (like in Japan); MRT for Metro Cebu...
i hope they would build a subway MRT subway like Japan.
The first in cebu and in the country.
Build that, and they will come(Investors)...:cheers:
Potchot69 May 20th, 2008, 06:23 AM Any news yet?:sleepy:
brownman May 20th, 2008, 10:51 AM Another great project. Hopefully it'll push thru. Did the bidding started?
jrevalde May 21st, 2008, 06:42 AM ^^do you mean to say a mixed elevated and underground rail system?
Wind Shear May 21st, 2008, 08:11 AM True… I’d oft wondered why it was considered too volatile?? I thought it was rather tame & it was fun toying with some... Any chance of a re-opening? At least the English thread was redeemed.
As long as @jpdm is here, there is no chance on reopening that thread.
Mercato May 21st, 2008, 02:58 PM ^^^^but he's too insignificant a character for his opinion to matter :lol:
^^do you mean to say a mixed elevated and underground rail system? Yes, exactly. Singapore has that, and to some extent, Hongkong, too. That is the MRT for the City.
For the province, (since all the major towns & cities of Cebu are along the coast), heavy surface trains (combi passenger & cargo) will ring the coastline from Metro Cebu down to Oslob unya moliko ngadto sa Toledo, Balamban ug sa Daan Bantayan human balik napod sa Metro Cebu (two way system). I imagine exponential growth all throughout the province.
flesh_is_weak May 21st, 2008, 03:02 PM ^^
to Toledo...hmmm...a mountain tunnel perhaps? :)
you know, for Downtown, maybe for an 'old-town' look, we could get decorated street-cars (double-decked perhaps) ala San Francisco
Wind Shear May 21st, 2008, 03:08 PM ^^^^but he's too insignificant a character for his opinion to matter :lol:
Oh yeah right, he's from noisy minority and I don't give him a [insert your favorite profanity here].
For the province, (since all the major towns & cities of Cebu are along the coast), heavy surface trains (combi passenger & cargo) will ring the coastline from Metro Cebu down to Oslob unya moliko ngadto sa Toledo, Balamban ug sa Daan Bantayan human balik napod sa Metro Cebu (two way system). I imagine exponential growth all throughout the province.
In that way, I can have a residence as far as San Fernando. :D
flesh_is_weak May 21st, 2008, 06:35 PM maka-imagine nya ko while nagsakay sa train: "the next station is Fuente, Fuente Station" "ang sunod na istasyon kay Fuente, Istasyon Fuente"
"arriving at Fuente Station" "niabot na sa Fuente Station"
technoblaze May 22nd, 2008, 06:41 AM ^^do you mean to say a mixed elevated and underground rail system?
I prefer a 100% Underground Rail System. That would be the First in the Philippines and in Cebu.:)
Jimbu May 22nd, 2008, 06:25 PM Despite lack of funds: P2.3B north coastal road bidding set next month (http://www.philstar.com/index.php?Local%20News&p=52&type=2&sec=70&aid=20080522212)
The Freeman
Friday, May 23, 2008
Even without the full amount needed for it yet, the bidding of the P2.3-billion Cebu North Coastal Road Project will start next month until September this year.
Department of Public Works and Highways assistant secretary Jaime Pacanan, in a press briefing yesterday, said that only P100 million out of the P2.3 total cost has been released so far last year as initial funding for the road project.
The 9.45-kilometer coastal road will be a four-lane highway traversing the towns of Consolacion and Liloan to Mandaue City.
It is a road alignment that will link the northern towns of Cebu to the new Northern Metro Cebu urban development area, encompassing the Mactan Cebu International Airport, the Mactan Export Procesing Zone and the Mandaue City Reclamation Area.
Pacanan said that for this year, the DPWH is still waiting for the release of another P400 million, then P999,290,000 in 2009, and finally the P809,453,000 in 2010 when the project is expected to be completed.
“For this year, we are still waiting for the release of the 2008 funds,” he said.
Presidential Management Staff Cerge Remonde, the chairman of pre-performance system steering committee, said that with the completion of the project, a dramatic improvement in economic activity is expected in central and northern Cebu through an efficient transport infrastructure.
Of the P100 million fund that was already released, P55 million of it will go to payments of road right-of-way acquisitions while the remaining P45 million will be spent for civil works.
Civil works include construction of bunkhouses for engineers, delivery of sand and gravel, and clearing of roadsides of structures and trees.
The coastal road projects will also complements the 207-hectare reclamation project that will be undertaken soon by the Consolacion municipal government.
The project was originally supposed to be funded through a loan from the Japan Bank for International Cooperation but President Gloria Arroyo reportedly changed her mind and she wanted the project completed when her term ends in 2010.
Instead of borrowing funds from JBIC, which will take time because of the necessary negotiations and signing of agreements between the Japan and Philippine governments, Pacanan said the president decided to charge the project against the annual regular infrastructure fund. — Mitchelle L. Palaubsanon/RAE
Ex!lE May 22nd, 2008, 06:26 PM Despite lack of funds: P2.3B north coastal road bidding set next month (http://http://www.philstar.com/index.php?Local%20News&p=52&type=2&sec=70&aid=20080522212)
Friday, May 23, 2008
Even without the full amount needed for it yet, the bidding of the P2.3-billion Cebu North Coastal Road Project will start next month until September this year.
Department of Public Works and Highways assistant secretary Jaime Pacanan, in a press briefing yesterday, said that only P100 million out of the P2.3 total cost has been released so far last year as initial funding for the road project.
The 9.45-kilometer coastal road will be a four-lane highway traversing the towns of Consolacion and Liloan to Mandaue City.
It is a road alignment that will link the northern towns of Cebu to the new Northern Metro Cebu urban development area, encompassing the Mactan Cebu International Airport, the Mactan Export Procesing Zone and the Mandaue City Reclamation Area.
Pacanan said that for this year, the DPWH is still waiting for the release of another P400 million, then P999,290,000 in 2009, and finally the P809,453,000 in 2010 when the project is expected to be completed.
“For this year, we are still waiting for the release of the 2008 funds,” he said.
Presidential Management Staff Cerge Remonde, the chairman of pre-performance system steering committee, said that with the completion of the project, a dramatic improvement in economic activity is expected in central and northern Cebu through an efficient transport infrastructure.
Of the P100 million fund that was already released, P55 million of it will go to payments of road right-of-way acquisitions while the remaining P45 million will be spent for civil works.
Civil works include construction of bunkhouses for engineers, delivery of sand and gravel, and clearing of roadsides of structures and trees.
The coastal road projects will also complements the 207-hectare reclamation project that will be undertaken soon by the Consolacion municipal government.
The project was originally supposed to be funded through a loan from the Japan Bank for International Cooperation but President Gloria Arroyo reportedly changed her mind and she wanted the project completed when her term ends in 2010.
Instead of borrowing funds from JBIC, which will take time because of the necessary negotiations and signing of agreements between the Japan and Philippine governments, Pacanan said the president decided to charge the project against the annual regular infrastructure fund. — Mitchelle L. Palaubsanon/RAE
Sinjin P. May 22nd, 2008, 07:39 PM Thank goodness it will finally begin.
Ex!lE May 23rd, 2008, 06:23 PM Right-of-way issues blamed for delay of North Coastal Rd. (http://http://www.philstar.com/index.php?Local%20News&p=52&type=2&sec=70&aid=20080523200)
Saturday, May 24, 2008
Problems on road-right-of-way acquisition, and the late arrival of equipment from Singapore for the construction of stone columns, among others, have been the main causes of the delay in the implementation of Phase 1 of the P2.3 billion Cebu North Coastal Road Project.
These were the statements of project officials relayed to Secretary Cerge Remonde, director general of the Presidential Management Staff, who inspected the site yesterday.
Remonde, also the chairman of the pre-performance system steering committee, then directed the Department of Public Works and Highways to monitor the contractor in-charge of the project implementation, and directed the contractor, UKC Builders, to submit a program for the project.
The original scheduled deadline in carrying out Phase I of the project was last March 9 but, due to the delays, this was revised and reset later on July 16.
Remonde said DPWH officials and the contractor should coordinate with Mandaue City officials, barangay captains, and the office of 6th District Rep. Nerissa Soon-Ruiz, who earlier confided to him about her problem of getting updates on the project.
In a press briefing yesterday, Remonde admitted the need for “transparency” in the implementation of the North Coastal Road Project, adding that the public may directly inquire to local officials about the status of the project.
Remonde said the project’s target completion is 2010, and has been aimed at improving the economic activity of central and northern Cebu.
Ruiz, in a separate interview with The Freeman, said she has wanted to closely monitor the project, considering that Mandaue City and Consolacion also belong to her district. She further said the people of her district will benefit from it.
Liloan Mayor Vincent Franco “Duke” Frasco welcomed the move of Remonde to fast track the project, adding that he will discuss with DPWH officials also about some matters on the project because it passes through his town.
Construction activities, under Phase 1 of the project, cover the approaches to the coastal road but excluding the current construction of Cansaga Bridge. This phase includes the clearing and grubbing, removing of trees and mangroves, setting of embankments, and installing stone column.
There had been problems on securing permits to cut trees, and these had contributed also to the delay of the project implementation.
On August 13, last year, the contractor wrote the Mandaue City Environment and Natural Resources Office requesting for permits to cut trees. It was only last January 2 when the office received the letter and granted the request. On October 26, last year, the project implementation was even suspended due to road-right-of-way acquisition problems. — Jose P. Sollano/RAE
Ex!lE May 24th, 2008, 01:20 AM Parties agree on ‘catch up’ plan (http://http://www2.sunstar.com.ph/static/ceb/2008/05/24/news/parties.agree.on.catch.up.plan.html)
SECRETARY Cerge M. Remonde yesterday inspected the P2.308 billion Cebu North Coastal Road Project (CNCRP) to iron out problems that have caused delays, including the road right of way (RROW) purchase.
Remonde, director general of the Presidential Management Staff, said that the Department of Public Works and Highways (DPWH) and private contractor UKC Builders have already agreed on a “catch up” plan to finish the road on schedule.
He said he decided to visit the construction site after receiving media reports and complaints that the project is not “moving.”
Solution
The Cebuano Cabinet member told reporters that he went to the project site not to find fault among the parties involved but to find solutions to the problems that are causing the delay.
During yesterday’s briefing, Remonde learned that the unfinished RROW acquisition, the issuance of permit to cut trees, delays in the delivery of major equipment and frequent rains have made work in the area impossible.
He directed DPWH to coordinate with Rep. Nerissa Soon-Ruiz (Cebu, 6th district) and officials of the concerned local government units to address the RROW purchase and other concerns.
Ruiz and Liloan Mayor Vincent Duke Frasco also joined the site visit.
Assurance
Remonde assured that the National Government will meet the target date for completion, which is on April 2010.
He admitted that because of the delays, the government failed to beat the March 9, 2008 deadline for the initial stage of the first package of the project. The deadline was reset to July 16, 2008.
As part of the “catch up” plan, DPWH and the contractor will prepare for the civil engineering works, which will start this September.
The CNCRP is one of the 149 priority infrastructure projects of the Arroyo administration.
It is a 9.45-kilometer, four-lane highway that will connect Mandaue City to the towns of Consolacion and Liloan. It will run parallel to the existing North Road.
Project
The project consists of two packages. Package 1, amounting to P1.45 billion, is the 1.39-kilometer stretch, which will include the Cansaga bay bridge that will connect Mandaue to Consolacion.
The second package is 8.06-kilometer long which will include the Suba bridge, Tayud underpass and a pedestrian overpass. It will cost some P581.8 million.
The RROW acquisition will cost another P276.3 million.
Mandaue City Mayor Jonas Cortes welcomed the project, saying that it will decongest the main North Road. (OCP)
flesh_is_weak May 24th, 2008, 09:44 PM my 10 year-old cousin ought to be Cebu City's urban planner...
* to get rid of global warming, traffic, and cope with gasoline prices, she suggests that jeepneys and taxis be replaced with calesas, she reasons, that after all, Cebu is a small city
* that tolls be paid by those bringing automobiles to the city
* that a rail-system be built to connect Cebu City to the towns
* that the buildings downtown be demolished to give way for buildings similar to those in Vigan
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is she brilliant or what?
LordCarnal May 25th, 2008, 04:07 PM ^^
With the rising price of oil, I think its feasible to bring back the tramvia run by horses, hehe.. though I would prefer it to be running on electricity..
Also by the way, I was in the car show in CICC last friday. I saw a vintage volkswagen and I'd like to confirm with you guys who are car experts if its engine is similar to that of a motorcycle which only has a single valve? If so, then we should bring back this people's car.. It consumes less fuel I guess..
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Wolfranz May 25th, 2008, 05:50 PM * that the buildings downtown be demolished to give way for buildings similar to those in Vigan
I like that idea very much, but I also love to see Haussmann-style/Parisian architecture blended with the old Vigan-style buildings :) Mas mulimpyu sad ang downtown, pero gastu-a sad intawn ani basig mahurot ang kwarta sa gobyerno, and definitely we should consider the less-cooperative property owners, merchants :ohno:
LordCarnal May 25th, 2008, 05:56 PM ^^
I think it would be odd to destroy the old buildings in downtown to give way to the Vigan style buildings that once occupied that area there.
Restoration is sometimes subjective and we also have to consider what specific period of time we want it to bring back..
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Sinjin P. May 25th, 2008, 05:58 PM ^ Destroying would be too much. Kahit renovation lang ng facade/exteriors pwede na siguro.
flesh_is_weak May 25th, 2008, 06:07 PM ^^i cant blame my cuz, she's still high from her Vigan trip :lol:
working from my cuz's suggestion, maybe we need an eccentric but brilliant architect who could come up with a fusion of colonial and contemporary architecture that could be implemented in a masterplan for downtown REdevelopment...
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maybe we ought to have something like Boston's harbor-front redevelopment too...the current state does not appear too enticing for future investors heading their way to the SRP via the viaduct
LordCarnal May 25th, 2008, 06:08 PM ^^
@Sinjin
Yeah renovate and reuse adaptively, hehe.
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Wolfranz May 26th, 2008, 01:23 AM ^^
least liked man gud nako ang art deco architecture...hehe
well, that destroy thingy is always a fantasy...
Adaptive reuse is the good reality :)
Cebuski78 May 26th, 2008, 07:39 AM I think before we go into some boundless fantasies, we need to look at the reality and the present problems that would hamper the restoration plan for the downtown area. one of that is the the distruction of the old in change of a more modern structures, fire and the inability to restore what was lost, and the disappearance of the unifying element that would make a harmonious totality, which is the classic and early modern styles of architecture to create a sense of place that is truly the old cebu...It would be a great idea that if ever there would be a new construction within the area, they would make an ordinance making the architectural design congruent to the old buildings around the area or to which era they want to revive. :)
a_terisk78y™ May 26th, 2008, 08:54 AM ^^sometimes, a few sacrifices have to be made for the good of the majority...those who resist change, only end up destroying themselves and those that surround them...if those drivers see the threat of the coming change to their livelihood, then they should look for ways to prepare themselves...and alternative livelihood would be good...besides not all of them would be losing their jobs, i'm sure that the best among them (or at least the well connected) would end up working for the BRT...
at least we're looking at the beginnings of a world-class transit system for Metro Cebu...hopefully in 10-15 years, it could grow to something like this...
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g304/ether_2006/cebusubway.jpg
love this road project.... hope maka daun ni asap...
garzland May 26th, 2008, 11:23 AM We can catch up Thailand in terms of economy because it is stagnating due to military junta. Even Thailand has better roads, still, there's a traffic problem.
I think it's very difficult for us to surpass Malaysia because we still have not enough funds for all ambitious expressway projects all over the archipelago.
It's very difficult for us to surpass Malaysia in terms of infrastructure. Malaysia has already developed infrastructure unlike us we're just less than halfway of having such as Malaysia's but we're not that far I guess from Thailand's infrastructure.
Sinjin P. May 26th, 2008, 11:25 AM ^ Hi there, that isn't a road project but a vision for a railway project. :)
brownman May 26th, 2008, 04:07 PM IMO, we are at par with Thailand although in some way they may be a little bit ahead of us.
a_terisk78y™ May 26th, 2008, 05:11 PM ah! am sorry bro hehehe...
flesh_is_weak May 26th, 2008, 06:41 PM speaking of which, i've realized the Fortuna Station would no longer be doable, and shouldnt be done at the first place, since it's too close to Banilad Station
and regarding the near-impossibility of getting rid of the eyesore-buildings in the downtown area...well, nothing that political will cant do...or a conflagration :lol:
Sinjin P. May 26th, 2008, 06:47 PM ^ Nothing that "The Secret" can't do. :lol:
flesh_is_weak May 26th, 2008, 07:41 PM ^^yeah...maybe i ought to print my rail map too then mass produce it and place it in conspicuous places around the city, preferably where the 'stations' are supposed to be :lol:
LordCarnal May 27th, 2008, 09:01 AM @Pirena
Include the SRP in your plan.
Who knows, the city might adopt it, hehe.
The South Coastal Highway at the SRP alone can have at least 5 stations (granting it's full of buildings already, hehe). Then there would also be stations at the inner parts and another one encircling the entire SRP, pretty much like a circumferential train.
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LordCarnal May 27th, 2008, 01:20 PM Here's an interesting paper about the "Transformation of Cebu City through the Development of its Transportation Infrastructure (1521-1990),"
http://www.easts.info/2003journal/papers/3286.pdf
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flesh_is_weak May 27th, 2008, 04:08 PM http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g304/ether_2006/srpmain.jpg
SRP Development Plan (unofficial and fictional:lol:)
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g304/ether_2006/srp-detail.jpg
detail showing the proposed tram-system
flesh_is_weak May 27th, 2008, 09:37 PM ^^
>>centerpiece of this development would be a rotunda surrounded by a commercial zone/ CBD criss-crossed by a roads radiating from the rotunda, with a large park radiating to Kawit Point, containing Kawit Park and Kawit Point Station.
>>South of Kawit Point to the border with the Talisay City would be Harborfront Entertainment strip and Harborfront Station of the South Coastal Line, while across would be a small BPO area contiguous with the CBD and the utilities area.
>>From Kawit Point Station, a tramway goes to serve the north and south ends of the SRP; the North Loop would pass through the so-called condominium district to the BPO and tech zone; while the South Loop would pass through the CBD and go around the rotunda.
>>Also adjacent to Kawit Station is the new Hospital and the SRP administrative building, which also contains the police and fire stations and other services.
>>In the vicinity of Baywalk Station is Baywalk Park and another entertainment strip. While adjacent to the high-density, high-end residential area (condo district) is the leisure area, which is side by side with the North Marina,while the South Marina lies due west of the CBD.
>>One of the avenues radiating from the rotunda go all the way west to Barangay Pardo, crossing the lagoon via a spectacular bridge, before cutting through a marshland reserve. And another road also leads to Pardo, passing by the former landfill area.
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God, if only having all this come into reality was as easy as typing...
slimer May 28th, 2008, 03:24 PM @flesh
you could really be a good urban planner! :) i like that vision of yours.
flesh_is_weak May 28th, 2008, 09:25 PM ^^hehehe...i wish...thanks :)
greenshields May 30th, 2008, 12:08 PM Thailand and Malaysia are ahead of us in terms of infra. More comparable would be Indonesia.
Cebu's road system is admirable and the trans-axial development is something that needs to be replicated in other parts of the country especially in Mindanao. There are also many applications in Northern Luzon but the government as well as the private sector is now engrossed with expressways here and there including the NLEE, SCTEX and the LUTE. Expressways are not necessarily the answer to the accessibility question. Just provide a good national road network to move people and goods.
barrera_marquez May 30th, 2008, 01:09 PM Thailand and Malaysia are ahead of us in terms of infra. More comparable would be Indonesia.
Cebu's road system is admirable and the trans-axial development is something that needs to be replicated in other parts of the country especially in Mindanao. There are also many applications in Northern Luzon but the government as well as the private sector is now engrossed with expressways here and there including the NLEE, SCTEX and the LUTE. Expressways are not necessarily the answer to the accessibility question. Just provide a good national road network to move people and goods.
SCTEx, patapos na, ang LUTEx, magsisimula pa ang, ang NELEx (NLEE) e panaginip pa rin... ano ba iyan?
Ex!lE May 31st, 2008, 03:30 AM Ban-Tal flyover project still meeting target (http://http://www2.sunstar.com.ph/static/ceb/2008/05/31/news/ban.tal.flyover.project.still.meeting.target.html)
AT least up to June 15, the Banilad flyover construction is still on schedule, so the public should not worry that the July 31 target might not be met, officials again assured yesterday.
Rep. Raul del Mar (Cebu City, north), Department of Public Works and Highways 7 officials led by Regional Director Josefino Rigor, and contractor WTG Construction and Development Corp. representatives met yesterday to give an update on the project.
The meeting was an offshoot of a May 16 meeting attended by the same officials, where it was agreed that the initial P40-million allocation from the Department of Budget and Management (DBM) will be used not only to pay the contractor, but as partial payment to lot owners.
Including the P40 million, at least P74 million was already released. About P130 million, P50 million of which is for the road-right-of-way purchase, will be given to the DPWH between June 16 and 30, del Mar said.
Lawyer Agustinito Hermoso, DPWH 7 legal counsel, said that of 34 lot owners (not 20 as earlier reported), only two have not yet submitted the requirements.
He said that the two lot owners wanted that instead of the Bureau of Internal Revenue (BIR) valuation of P15,500 per square meter, they will be paid P28,000 per square meter. They will not issue entry permits unless the amount is on hand.
At least 20 lots are affected by the road-widening phase of the construction.
“Everything is still on schedule as far as completion (of the flyover) by the end of July is concerned despite the just partial release of the funds….So far so good, at least before June 15,” del Mar said.
“As of now, much depends on the release of the P130 million before the end of the month (June), but from now up to June 15, everything is alright,” he added.
Project engineer Christopher Semilla said that girders will start to rise by the middle of June. The last will be in place by the first week of July.
He said they will be using two cranes, but will set the girders only at night, and promised that no road lanes will be closed.
He said there might be some traffic flow interruptions when the cranes will be maneuvered in place, but it will be temporary, like waiting for a vehicle to back out into the street.
“I’m optimistic, after Atty. Hermoso negotiates with the lot owners, that we will be done on schedule (by the end of July),” Semilla also said.
Del Mar told Hermoso to finish the negotiation with the lot owners by the middle of next month.
Del Mar, Rigor, Hermoso and DPWH Cebu City Director Nicomedes Leonor inspected the construction site yesterday afternoon.
Del Mar said that once classes start next week, the “situation will not be any worse” compared to when there were still classes when construction started last Feb. 1.
He said there is nothing that can be done about those who still will not believe them when they say that the project will be done by the end of July. (RHM)
tuxedo_blue May 31st, 2008, 09:33 AM passed by nasipit, talamban. Flood was waist level... :ohno:
kratos1211 June 9th, 2008, 02:23 PM from Positive News Media
Development planners push for P738M Cebu southwest road
CEBU CITY, June 10 (PNA) – The Regional Development Council (RDC)-Infrastructure Development Committee (IDC) has endorsed the development of the Cebu Southwest Coastal Road, a project estimated to cost P738,444,226.
The Department of Public Works and Highways (DPWH) submitted a study that gave a positive assessment of the construction or improvement of the Southwest Coastal Road. >
The study was commissioned by the Korean International Cooperation Agency (Koica) through the Pyunghwa Engineering Consultants Ltd. (PEC) and the Dongsung Engineering Co. (DEC).
The 141 kms. road improvements cover seven municipalities.
The Korean Economic Development Cooperation Fund (EDCF) will shoulder 65 percent of the work, while the rest will be covered by the local component.
The first section will cover a 22.30-km. road from Toledo City to Aloguinsan, and continues from Aloguinsan to Carcar, covering 14.40 kms.
From Carcar, road improvements will proceed to Barili, a stretch of 10.30 kms., and Barili to Badian for about 35.90 kms.
A 28 km. stretch from Badian to Malabuyoc and the 30.10-km stretch from Malabuyoc to Standander are also included in the project.
The work will include replacement and rehabilitation of bridges, drainage, kilometer posts, pavement markings, as well as warning and regulatory signs.
Consultancy services and acquisition of road-right-of-way are already included in the total project cost.
”The improvement/rehabilitation of this road section is envisioned to strengthen the economic and cultural linkages of Regions 6 and 7, and also to propel the development of industry and tourism in these regions,” as stated in the RDC-IDC resolution.
Toledo City is linked to San Carlos City of Region 6, which in turn is indirectly linked to Region 7 through Bato, Santander. Ferry services connect Santander, Cebu to the island of Negros.
The report said the project is a priority in the Central Philippines Comprehensive and Integrated Infrastructure Program and is a road component of the Western Nautical Highway.
The project will be presented to the RDC full council meeting scheduled this month. (PNA)
Reblocking to extend Cebu TCH lifespan by 20 years - DPWH
CEBU CITY, June 10 (PNA) – The Department of Public Works and Highways (DPWH) 7 said reblocking the Cebu Transcentral Highway (TCH) that connects Cebu city to Balamban town in the west coast will extend the lifespan of the highway by 20 more years.
About 20 sections will be reblocked, which involves repairing the cracked pavements and replacing some segment with drainage, said DPWH 7 Engr. Leah Negre.
But National Economic and Development Authority (Neda) 7 Director Marlene Rodriguez quoted an assessment of the Mines and Geosciences Bureau (MGB) of the Department of Environment and Natural Resources (DENR) that the TCH sits on a landslide-prone area.
”This might be an annual correction because of the geological problem. Year after year, millions might be spent to do the same correction,” Rodriguez said.
”That’s money down the drain,” echoed Emmanuel Rabacal, Regional Development Council (RDC) Infrastructure Development Committee (IDC) chairman.
Negre said these were considered when DPWH 7 designed the P55 million reblocking program.
This is separate from work that Rep. Pablo John Garcia (Cebu, 3rd district) commissioned with the DPWH Central Office, which granted a P15 million funding for rehabilitation.
The reblocking will be conducted in the Cebu City side of the 32.5 kilometer TCH, which cuts through the mountains linking Balamban and Cebu City. It cuts travel time between the island’s eastern and western seaboard to about 45 minutes.
Allan Alfon, representing Aboitiz Land, raised the concern of Balamban-based ship-builder Tsuneishi Heavy Industries Cebu Inc., which was reportedly forced to use the longer route through the Toledo-Naga road in going to Cebu City because of “apprehensions” in plying the TCH.
Roberto Aboitiz, chairman of the Cebu Industrial Park Developers Inc., requested DPWH Secretary Hermogenes Ebdane last March to immediately repair the TCH, which he described as “failing, slipping and eroding.”
Aboitiz pointed out that the highway had collapsed in many areas on the Balamban side.
Rodriguez asked if there is a chance of opening alternative roads considering the geological problems in that area.
”That’s a hopeless case because the highway lies on a fault zone,” said Rabacal.
Garcia earlier said opening up new roads may cost the government at least P1 billion.
For all the anxiety, Negre assured that the highway remains “passable.” (PNA)
flesh_is_weak June 9th, 2008, 07:55 PM that would really be great. this is how it looked around 1915:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i150/jbersales/freedompark.jpg
Warwick Barracks, with the Cuartel de Infanteria on the left and the Recoletos Church at extreme right.
unemployed as i am, i found a convenient and productive (?) way to spend my time...
presenting, the first phase of my ongoing Sketchup project, the New Freedom Park...
this is Phase 1, consisting of Level B-2 of the new underground Freedom/Carbon Market
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g304/ether_2006/phase1.jpg
note the level of the sea (marked blue)
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g304/ether_2006/phase1-2.jpg
close-up, shows a ramp and parking for delivery vehicles, and stalls.
while below, is Phase 2 of the project, which involves Level B-1 of the public market
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g304/ether_2006/phase2.jpg
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g304/ether_2006/phase2-2.jpg
once complete (hahaha, as if it would get built) this market complex could vie for the record of the world's largest underground public market. :D
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g304/ether_2006/carbon.jpg
"di ba ingon ko nimo ayaw pagdugay ug palit ug itlog? nag-laag-laag man hinoon ka!"
Goku_25 June 13th, 2008, 02:40 PM Any updates about Cebu Trans-Axial Expressway?
LordCarnal June 14th, 2008, 05:13 AM I think this project is difficult to implement considering the terrain that they're going to deal with and the huge financial requirements of course unless if there's a private company out there who will risk their money on such a project.
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diehardbisdak June 15th, 2008, 07:32 AM ...nag bidding na ba?...wala lagi update sa news...basin, wala'y bidders? heheheheh!
federalist June 15th, 2008, 10:59 AM as what my friends told me, Gov. Gwen Garcia is not interested in this project. baka di na matuloy sabi ng kaibigan nya na Capitol employee.
Hopefully, Vice-Gov Greg Sanchez will pursue this one.
we'll just pray..
etienne June 15th, 2008, 01:05 PM passed by nasipit, talamban. Flood was waist level... :ohno:
its so ironic nga grabe ang baha sa nasipit fronting usc-tc, thinking its an engineering schol and the Water resource Center is jus a few meters from the street.
flesh_is_weak June 15th, 2008, 01:46 PM maybe she realized that there are a lot of other important things to attend to down here in the lowlands...i believe in "build 'em and they will come"...but as the sign outside Ciudad says, "there is a time for everything"...and it's probably just not now
federalist June 15th, 2008, 06:24 PM maayo unta by the year 2020 naa na ni nga hi-way.
diehardbisdak June 15th, 2008, 08:03 PM ^^ what's ironic there bai or what's the connection? ...it's city's lack of drainage system...nothing to do with USC-TC....
LordCarnal June 16th, 2008, 05:47 AM CPA seeks partners to fund proposed international port
By Ehda M. Dagooc
Monday, June 16, 2008
The Cebu Ports Authority (CPA) is currently seeking for potential partners to help fund the construction of the P18 billion international seaport to be located in Tayud, Consolacion, Cebu.
CPA general manager Angelo Verdan said that his office is now actively looking for entities to help fund the project, although it currently has ongoing negotiations with two international shipping lines, which have expressed interest to speed up the completion of the project.
Although not urgently, Verdan emphasized that Cebu definitely needs a new port.
“We have received proposals to fund the project from the Cebu provincial government and private companies from Japan and Dubai on a build-operate-transfer agreement. Two blue international shipping lines have also expressed interest,” he said.
If a private company will finance the construction, CPA will still be the administrative body, Verdan pointed out.
CPA aims to start actual construction of the 120-hectares seaport in 2010.
He said CPA together with the Japan International Cooperation Agency (JICA) has already completed the preliminary studies for the proposed New Cebu Port, however actual construction is still slated by 2010.
The New Cebu Port will sit on a 120-hectare (ha) reclaimed property in Tayud, Consolacion, Cebu.
Construction will be done in two phases. Phase one will include the reclamation development of the first 80 hectares.
Verdan stressed that, though it may take five to eight years for the international port to be finished and operational, he said this buys CPA more time to study other possible developments in the existing Cebu International Port (CIP).
Among the considerations raised was utilizing the area as a feasible site for commercial or residential buildings either for hotels or condominiums, as likened to the harbors of Hong Kong and Singapore.
"The CIP is still not yet saturated. We have the time," he said, adding that once the New Cebu Port opens, it will catapult Cebu as "an international shipping trading center."
Verdan expressed belief that the New Cebu Port is a "necessary investment" for Cebu if it wants to be competitive in the global shipping industry because the Mean Low Level Water average of the existing docking area at the CIP only has a depth of 8.5 meters which is below international standards of at least 10 meters.
That of the proposed New Cebu Port, Verdan said it has a depth of 15 to 18 meters which can accommodate Panama-class vessels.
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Goku_25 June 16th, 2008, 08:10 AM as what my friends told me, Gov. Gwen Garcia is not interested in this project. baka di na matuloy sabi ng kaibigan nya na Capitol employee.
Hopefully, Vice-Gov Greg Sanchez will pursue this one.
we'll just pray..
Sana yung governor ng Cebu magbago ang isip para ma-approve yung Cebu Expressway.
rage@cebu June 16th, 2008, 10:27 AM ^^ great!!!!
RonnieR June 16th, 2008, 10:39 AM ^^ great!!!!
good news! How far is this place from Cebu City?
rage@cebu June 16th, 2008, 11:02 AM ^^ from Cebu International Port around 5KM, from MCIAA around 3KM. :)
RonnieR June 16th, 2008, 11:12 AM ^^ from Cebu International Port around 5KM, from MCIAA around 3KM. :)
cool, so near lang pala... :)
LordCarnal June 16th, 2008, 12:32 PM edit
bartstrife99 June 16th, 2008, 04:04 PM pag di natuloy yung project wag na iboto c garcia for governor walang ginawa kundi mag pa picture!
Sinjin P. June 17th, 2008, 04:15 AM pag di natuloy yung project wag na iboto c garcia for governor walang ginawa kundi mag pa picture!
Do you understand what you're saying? :? She has done a lot to our province and you may just not be aware of it. :)
juandecervantes June 17th, 2008, 01:42 PM bkt 300 kms ngayon? sa luzon nga hindi nila kaya yun. dapat 80 km muna malapit sa Cebu.
Goku_25 June 17th, 2008, 03:15 PM bkt 300 kms ngayon? sa luzon nga hindi nila kaya yun. dapat 80 km muna malapit sa Cebu.
Pwede rin silang gumawa ng 80 km initial stretch muna kung limited ang budget para mag-expand nalang sila in the future habang ginamit pa kasi ganun din ang simula ng pag-gawa ng NLEx at SLEx sa Luzon.
In English: They can also build an 80 km initial stretch for a while if they have a limited budget so they can also expand in the future while the expressway is operational because it's also similar to the initial construction of NLEx and SLEx in Luzon.
Ex!lE June 17th, 2008, 03:25 PM Pwede rin silang gumawa ng 80 km initial stretch muna kung limited ang budget para mag-expand nalang sila in the future habang ginamit pa kasi ganun din ang simula ng pag-gawa ng NLEx at SLEx sa Luzon.
In English: They can also build an 80 km initial stretch for a while if they have a limited budget so they can also expand in the future while the expressway is operational because it's also similar to the initial construction of NLEx and SLEx in Luzon.
Of the whole stretch, 220 kilometers cover existing roads that need improvement, while 80 kilometers will be newly-built.
Goku_25 June 17th, 2008, 03:37 PM Of the whole stretch, 220 kilometers cover existing roads that need improvement, while 80 kilometers will be newly-built.
I also agree with the rehabilitation of existing roads in Cebu while constructing an initially 80 km Cebu Island Expressway so travel time will reduce.
Potchot69 June 19th, 2008, 08:29 AM This project isn’t practical. Look at Cebu’s map, it’s a thin outstretched island. What it needs are good coastal roads. Expressways and freeways are of better use in Metro Luzon Urban Beltway, the Philippines’ undisputed economic superpower.
Sleepwalker June 19th, 2008, 12:01 PM This project isn’t practical. Look at Cebu’s map, it’s a thin outstretched island. What it needs are good coastal roads. Expressways and freeways are of better use in Metro Luzon Urban Beltway, the Philippines’ undisputed economic superpower.
Cebu have already a developed coastal roads...That is why it moved on by having this ambitious plan, of which, for me is a practical one, knowing that this expressway is not only a mere span of road...This Cebu Trans-axial Hiway will be a network of windmills and irrigation systems also.
Yes...Expressways and freeways are better off in Luzon yesterday, now and in the future...I think, it is better to focus all the development to Luzon only...Shame on you, Potchot...
Do not start ruining this peaceful thread here.
Cebuski78 June 19th, 2008, 04:29 PM This project isn’t practical. Look at Cebu’s map, it’s a thin outstretched island. What it needs are good coastal roads. Expressways and freeways are of better use in Metro Luzon Urban Beltway, the Philippines’ undisputed economic superpower.
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The trans-axial highway is also benificial to preserve and avoid overcrowding and congestion in the coastal towns of cebu and would also protect the coastal beaches from too much exploitation. one of the reasons why the diversion of road to the uppermost central part of the island is very practical and relevant.
In the design of rural highways it is very important, as much as possible not to transverse in the town centers to have a freeflow of traffic, minor roads will also be provided as access way to the main town....:)
i think you need to study environmental/landscape planning and design to understand this project.:):)
Sleepwalker June 20th, 2008, 05:31 AM This project isn’t practical. Look at Cebu’s map, it’s a thin outstretched island. What it needs are good coastal roads. Expressways and freeways are of better use in Metro Luzon Urban Beltway, the Philippines’ undisputed economic superpower.
By the way, don't be so proud to claim that your Metro Luzon is an economic superpower...Did you become a superpower just by your own efforts? Or is it because you are pampered by grandma?
Sorry to all moderator...I got carried away...And to all forumers from Metro Luzon area except Potchot, please ignore my points...Hehehehehe...Medyo allergic lang po ako sa mga taong mahangin... :)
RonnieR June 20th, 2008, 05:55 AM By the way, don't be so proud to claim that your Metro Luzon is an economic superpower...Did you become a superpower just by your own efforts? Or is it because you are pampered by grandma?
Sorry to all moderator...I got carried away...And to all forumers from Metro Luzon area except Potchot, please ignore my points...Hehehehehe...Medyo allergic lang po ako sa mga taong mahangin... :)
Don't worry bro, i also don't share the view of Potchot. If these massive infrastructures will be built in Cebu (my favorite city outside Metro Manila :) ), then it would be great. Sana matuloy ang BRT diyan sa Cebu, or LRT so Cebu would be really world class.
Sleepwalker June 20th, 2008, 05:59 AM Don't worry bro, i also don't share the view of Potchot. If these massive infrastructures will be built in Cebu (my favorite city outside Metro Manila :) ), then it would be great. Sana matuloy ang BRT diyan sa Cebu, or LRT so Cebu would be really world class.
Glad to hear that from you, boss...Medyo personal level lang yong comment ko sa taas...Hehehehe
Alam mo naman, ang Pinoy sensitive sa bagyo... :)
Ejames June 20th, 2008, 07:05 AM This project isn’t practical. Look at Cebu’s map, it’s a thin outstretched island. What it needs are good coastal roads. Expressways and freeways are of better use in Metro Luzon Urban Beltway, the Philippines’ undisputed economic superpower.
dah?? undisputed traffic, pollution, etc. etc... superpower?? bash:/
anyways... if ang bwat province magkanya-kanya..i'm sure hihingi ng tulong superpower mo , hahaha.. ((((wla lng)))
LordCarnal June 20th, 2008, 07:13 AM Somewhat true.. I really cannot imagine how this highway would look like since Cebu has a mountainous interior.. The watersheds (including the protected landscape or the central national park) are also located in the central part of the island. Better indeed for the coastal highways..
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JuIcYdUdE22 June 20th, 2008, 07:16 AM dah?? undisputed traffic, pollution, etc. etc... superpower?? bash:/
anyways... if ang bwat province magkanya-kanya..i'm sure hihingi ng tulong superpower mo , hahaha.. ((((wla lng)))
thats true, i agree on that. manila wouldnt have much money if not ofor taxes taken from other provinces.
Sleepwalker June 20th, 2008, 08:26 AM Somewhat true.. I really cannot imagine how this highway would look like since Cebu has a mountainous interior.. The watersheds (including the protected landscape or the central national park) are also located in the central part of the island. Better indeed for the coastal highways..
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Hmmmm...Well, although maybe our coastal roads needs improvement, i also welcome the idea of having a Transaxial Highway...Anyway, this proposal won't only be about roads, but it also consist of windmills and irrigation systems which are helpful for farmers.
Well, as for Cebu's protected park, i am too ignorant about it...So i guess, if this highway will push trough, they should find a way to protect this park and the watersheds... :)
Just my opinion, though...
Potchot69 June 20th, 2008, 09:51 AM Cebu have already a developed coastal roads...That is why it moved on by having this ambitious plan, of which, for me is a practical one, knowing that this expressway is not only a mere span of road...This Cebu Trans-axial Hiway will be a network of windmills and irrigation systems also.
Yes...Expressways and freeways are better off in Luzon yesterday, now and in the future...I think, it is better to focus all the development to Luzon only...Shame on you, Potchot...
Do not start ruining this peaceful thread here.
Kung praktikal talaga 'yan, ba't wala pa ring balita, o ha? Sinabi ko lang naman na better off ang highways and freeways sa Metro Luzon Urban Beltway (MULB), andami mo nang satsat! E talaga naman e! Ikumpara mo nga ang topography ng Cebu province (mountainous terrain) at MULB (flat plains). Sino ngayon ang mahangin? Ba't ka nagre-react sa sinabi kong economic superpower? Wala namang nagrereklamo kung ipagyabang ng mga taga-Cebu ang teritoryo nila (through their signatures). Ba't nag-react ka sa linya kong economic superpower? INSECURE!:bash: Kung me magrereklamo sa sinabi kong economic superpower, burahin n’yo mga mas mahangin n’yong signatures!
Pero in fairness maganda ang Cebu at may ibubuga rin.:)
Potchot69 June 20th, 2008, 09:57 AM dah?? undisputed traffic, pollution, etc. etc... superpower?? bash:/
anyways... if ang bwat province magkanya-kanya..i'm sure hihingi ng tulong superpower mo , hahaha.. ((((wla lng)))
Isa ka pang insecure -- magsama kayo ni Sleepwalker! Wala akong ipinintas sa lugar n'yo pero hinambalos mo na ang Manila (undispute traffic, pollution, etc.) kahit Metro Luzon Urban Beltway ang binanggit ko. Ang sarap n'yong pagbuholin kayong dalawa!:baeh3:
Sleepwalker June 20th, 2008, 10:13 AM Kung praktikal talaga 'yan, ba't wala pa ring balita, o ha? Sinabi ko lang naman na better off ang highways and freeways sa Metro Luzon Urban Beltway (MULB), andami mo nang satsat! E talaga naman e! Ikumpara mo nga ang topography ng Cebu province (mountainous terrain) at MULB (flat plains). Sino ngayon ang mahangin? Ba't ka nagre-react sa sinabi kong economic superpower? Wala namang nagrereklamo kung ipagyabang ng mga taga-Cebu ang teritoryo nila (through their signatures). Ba't nag-react ka sa linya kong economic superpower? INSECURE!:bash: Kung me magrereklamo sa sinabi kong economic superpower, burahin n’yo mga mas mahangin n’yong signatures!
Pero in fairness maganda ang Cebu at may ibubuga rin.:)
Yeah, right....Hehehehe
Sleepwalker June 20th, 2008, 11:27 AM Kung praktikal talaga 'yan, ba't wala pa ring balita, o ha? Sinabi ko lang naman na better off ang highways and freeways sa Metro Luzon Urban Beltway (MULB), andami mo nang satsat! E talaga naman e! Ikumpara mo nga ang topography ng Cebu province (mountainous terrain) at MULB (flat plains). Sino ngayon ang mahangin? Ba't ka nagre-react sa sinabi kong economic superpower? Wala namang nagrereklamo kung ipagyabang ng mga taga-Cebu ang teritoryo nila (through their signatures). Ba't nag-react ka sa linya kong economic superpower? INSECURE!:bash: Kung me magrereklamo sa sinabi kong economic superpower, burahin n’yo mga mas mahangin n’yong signatures!
Pero in fairness maganda ang Cebu at may ibubuga rin.:)
Boss Potpot,
I myself, just like most of the Cebuanos, is proud of what our metro and province has achieved. I am proud, that without so much pampering, our metro/province moved on.
Please be reminded that being an anti-Marcos, Cebu has been left out to dry during the Marcos era...And please be reminded also that after the devastation of typhoon Ruping, Cebu's plea for help from National Government has been rejected because it is very busy reconstructing Luzon.
I can not blame my fellow Cebuanos in shouting to the world their sense of pride for Cebu...After all, Cebu deserves to be hailed... :)
A lot of lambs have been sacrificed for your place to become superpower...Mahiya ka naman...Hehehehehe
Again, i apologized for this...This will be last post for Super Potpot... :)
Cebuski78 June 20th, 2008, 12:16 PM Somewhat true.. I really cannot imagine how this highway would look like since Cebu has a mountainous interior.. The watersheds (including the protected landscape or the central national park) are also located in the central part of the island. Better indeed for the coastal highways..
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The proposed project won’t be a threat to the watershed and the protected landscape of Cebu, which includes the mountains between Cebu City and the western towns of toledo and balamban, and the central terrain of the south. Since these things are included in the whole development package, which promise to preserve and enhance the natural environment and ecology of the said areas...The Expressway development can co-exist with the protected environment and landscapes... :cheers:
The anticipated population and development growth and congestion of the coastal towns is very well considered in conveying this project since it helps avoid the projected predicaments that we may encounter in the future...
Major roads and highways don’t need to pass through town centers because it will further congest and may build up a more chaotic condition in these districts, and may cause overdevelopment…
That is why we need to support and be hopeful for this development.:banana::banana:
LordCarnal June 20th, 2008, 12:21 PM ^^
Anyway, the question is what really is a "transaxial" highway? Why is it called transaxial? At least this should clear our doubts. Because up to now I really can't imagine how the highway will traverse the mountains, the ravines, etc..
I was in "Island in the Sky" last March and I was trying to imagine how the highway will be built with the very deep "pang pang."
Is it a highway that slices straight through the middle part of the island? Or is it a highway that spirals around the island?
Calling on Engineer Butch!
:banana:
Cebuski78 June 20th, 2008, 12:33 PM Since beaches are close to the coastal highways, the present condition will tell you that further more in the future houses and structures will sprout in such secluded beautiful beaches, since highways will bring along with it a populace that will generate a more unnatural environment.. With the construction of this project that will now pass through the central terrain, along with its limiting provision and enforcement on what kind of development it will accommodate, the overcrowding of the coast will be avoided and it will promote and attain the preservation of the natural beaches away from further obstruction and exploitation….
:banana::cheers::cheers:
LordCarnal June 20th, 2008, 12:40 PM Anyway, if the highway will really be built then I think it's better if they fence the entire stretch of the highway itself so that no structures will sprout along it; otherwise its purpose of being an expressway will just be defeated. The fence would also provide additional security to the vital infrastructures such as water and power lines and also minimize urbanizing the protected landscape.
Here's a map of our beloved island. Can someone at least make a rough drawing as to how the transaxial highway really looks like?
http://www.mingsworld.com/images/cebu/cebumap1L.jpg
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Cebuski78 June 20th, 2008, 12:42 PM ^^
Anyway, the question is what really is a "transaxial" highway? Why is it called transaxial? At least this should clear our doubts.
Is it a highway that slices through the middle part of the island? Or is it a highway that spirals around the island?
Calling on Engineer Butch!
:banana:
With todays technology and human expertise, nothing now is impossible...
well its just a highway that pass through mountains and it has been done in many countries, and why cant we do it...I'm sure the engineers can answer that, that is what they study for....and i think they have studied that before making an announcement of the proposal..I'm sure its possible and feasible..:cheers:
Goku_25 June 21st, 2008, 02:16 AM Cebu Trans-Axial Expressway is also important to Metro Cebu's Economy 'coz it could develop Cebu Island rapidly by industrialization and urbanization just like areas around NLEx and SLEx. So we should not opposed any expressway projects outside Luzon and Metro Manila.
Proposed Expressway in Cebu could transform Metro Cebu and other places into new economic centers and to decongest Metro Manila.
That expressway project, once completed, it could increase GDP growth in the Philippine Economy and it could reduce freight costs so that's why the Philippines needs a good infrastructure to support its growing economy.
Potchot69 June 21st, 2008, 08:46 AM Boss Potpot,
I myself, just like most of the Cebuanos, is proud of what our metro and province has achieved. I am proud, that without so much pampering, our metro/province moved on.
Please be reminded that being an anti-Marcos, Cebu has been left out to dry during the Marcos era...And please be reminded also that after the devastation of typhoon Ruping, Cebu's plea for help from National Government has been rejected because it is very busy reconstructing Luzon.
I can not blame my fellow Cebuanos in shouting to the world their sense of pride for Cebu...After all, Cebu deserves to be hailed... :)
A lot of lambs have been sacrificed for your place to become superpower...Mahiya ka naman...Hehehehehe
Again, i apologized for this...This will be last post for Super Potpot... :)
:okay::cheers1::wave::hug:
tuxedo_blue June 21st, 2008, 11:58 AM ^^ what's ironic there bai or what's the connection? ...it's city's lack of drainage system...nothing to do with USC-TC....
I think the problem here is that USC is not doing anything to address this problem. Its students are one of those who are greatly affected by this but the administrators of USC are just ignoring it. :ohno:
Wolfranz June 21st, 2008, 12:48 PM I think the problem here is that USC is not doing anything to address this problem. Its students are one of those who are greatly affected by this but the administrators of USC are just ignoring it. :ohno:
yeah, somehow USC has a responsibility... it's in their vision and mission statements that they are "community-oriented" and that they are "responsive to the needs of LOCAL, national, and global communities"
slimer June 21st, 2008, 03:43 PM happy ending! :)
i still hope though that they will pursue this, if not now, later. as long as it gets realized. this will definitely serve its purpose!
bartstrife99 June 21st, 2008, 03:55 PM Anyway, if the highway will really be built then I think it's better if they fence the entire stretch of the highway itself so that no structures will sprout along it; otherwise its purpose of being an expressway will just be defeated. The fence would also provide additional security to the vital infrastructures such as water and power lines and also minimize urbanizing the protected landscape.
Here's a map of our beloved island. Can someone at least make a rough drawing as to how the transaxial highway really looks like?
http://www.mingsworld.com/images/cebu/cebumap1L.jpg
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W0w dameng Barangay ba yan o bayan? dame ahh
Cebuski78 June 21st, 2008, 04:53 PM ^^
Yes i agree, kay pareho sa ilang ilang fence sa TC nga duol pidpid na kaayo sa highway nga wala naman gani sidewalk, wa gyud nila masacrifice..miski sila nalang to hingvolunteer og bakbak ana ilang pader to give way for a wider road and enough sidewalk for the safety pud sa mga students.... grabeee..hehehe!:ohno:
flesh_is_weak June 21st, 2008, 05:05 PM ^^those are the towns and the larger barangays...
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i agree with @arnold's suggestion of banning structures from sprouting along the highway,perhaps a kilometer-wide 'no-build' zone from each side of the road
Sleepwalker June 22nd, 2008, 11:51 AM ^^
Yes i agree, kay pareho sa ilang ilang fence sa TC nga duol pidpid na kaayo sa highway nga wala naman gani sidewalk, wa gyud nila masacrifice..miski sila nalang to hingvolunteer og bakbak ana ilang pader to give way for a wider road and enough sidewalk for the safety pud sa mga students.... grabeee..hehehe!:ohno:
Or they can also build some decent skywalk so that students do not need to brave through rushing waters just to cross the road...As for the sidewalk, perhaps they can build also a skywalk in place of sidewalk....In this way, they could save their fence.... :)
Sinjin P. June 22nd, 2008, 02:21 PM Kung praktikal talaga 'yan, ba't wala pa ring balita, o ha?
Because our government would rather keep quiet. Ang sagwa kasi tingnan at pakinggan ng mga press release na hindi naman natutuloy. Nakakahiya sa taumbayan. Negatibo na nga ang pananaw ng karamihan sa mga Pinoy sa gobyerno, mas lalo pa silang nagiging negatibo sa mga press release na hindi naman naisasakatuparan. :yes:
Cebuski78 June 23rd, 2008, 12:09 PM dako kayo nang yuta sa TC oi. oki ra gyud kaayo kung ila i-move back gamay ang ilang kural....dugay na kaayo na diha giwidening, naa pako sa CAFA mga 1997, pero wa gihapon epikto kay ang kural nagpabilin nya way sidewalk, magshare ra gyud agianan ang pedestrian og ang vehicles...naa pa gihapon tong mga poste nga naa gabarog sa kalsada? hehehe grabe gyud...:lol:
Wolfranz June 23rd, 2008, 05:17 PM ^^Sad irony coz USC-TC is supposed to be the "breeding ground" for the future urban planners of our city (that includes me, hehe)...
flesh_is_weak June 23rd, 2008, 05:20 PM ^^basin part na sa training...ipa-frustrate mo ug maayo para by the time mo-graduate mo, grabe na kaayo ang inyong motivation to plan out and implement changes :lol:
Wolfranz June 24th, 2008, 03:43 PM ^^basin part na sa training...ipa-frustrate mo ug maayo para by the time mo-graduate mo, grabe na kaayo ang inyong motivation to plan out and implement changes :lol:
After 5-7 years of study, my first plan would be to destroy FOODLAND!!!:lol:
kurom June 25th, 2008, 12:02 PM ^^Sad irony coz USC-TC is supposed to be the "breeding ground" for the future urban planners of our city (that includes me, hehe)...
hay naku. problem pa na even during my college years during 2000. still hangtud hawak gihapon ang tubig. way kausaban
slimer June 25th, 2008, 04:15 PM basin ni-improve na nuon na. basin before, sa legs lang ang baha, karon sa hawak na hehe.. joke lang ok.
i wonder what's in the mind of the school officials in usc-tc regarding this problem?
jameslab8470 June 26th, 2008, 04:45 PM ^^
Yes i agree, kay pareho sa ilang ilang fence sa TC nga duol pidpid na kaayo sa highway nga wala naman gani sidewalk, wa gyud nila masacrifice..miski sila nalang to hingvolunteer og bakbak ana ilang pader to give way for a wider road and enough sidewalk for the safety pud sa mga students.... grabeee..hehehe!:ohno:
Actually bai, dugay na naa plans ang USC TC to repair the drainage sa gawas nila. Naka set na tanan. But the problem is, i think they are still waiting for the local gov't to give a go signal kay ila man i repair ang public drainage. For now, wat they are doing is to widen the drainage sa sulod sa tc and i tap sa current drainage. And hopefully, tagaan na unta sila go signal to repair the drainage. About sa sidewalk, naa na sad plans. dugay nasad kaayo. pero ila pa ni buhaton after ma transfer ang engineering sa ila new building. mga 2 yrs from now pa hinuon. the reason is that the present bunzel building will be renovated and make it a commercial center. so ang perimeter fence, ma move na sugod sa luyo sa bunzel building. i think ang soccer field mahimo na na parking area for the commercial center.
Ejames June 29th, 2008, 03:49 AM Actually bai, dugay na naa plans ang USC TC to repair the drainage sa gawas nila. Naka set na tanan. But the problem is, i think they are still waiting for the local gov't to give a go signal kay ila man i repair ang public drainage. For now, wat they are doing is to widen the drainage sa sulod sa tc and i tap sa current drainage. And hopefully, tagaan na unta sila go signal to repair the drainage. About sa sidewalk, naa na sad plans. dugay nasad kaayo. pero ila pa ni buhaton after ma transfer ang engineering sa ila new building. mga 2 yrs from now pa hinuon. the reason is that the present bunzel building will be renovated and make it a commercial center. so ang perimeter fence, ma move na sugod sa luyo sa bunzel building. i think ang soccer field mahimo na na parking area for the commercial center.
that's totally right, kaya nga sinabay nila paggawa ng New engineering bldg tsaka Complex malapit sa nursing building para ung field malapit sa bunzel bldg ay may bagong kapalit na during the transfer.. i think the new engineering building will be finished less than 2 years.. kasi nagpopour na cla ng cement. tpos na nailagay na ung mga kabilya
jameslab8470 June 30th, 2008, 02:49 PM I'm not sure if this has already been posted. I found this article at usc.edu.ph and this explains why there is always flood at TC every time there's heavy rain.
USCTC braces for floods
This June, not only should we in the Talamban Campus expect bottleneck traffic in Banilad, we must brace for sudden floods as well. That is if reports of more storms coming our way this year were true.
It might be wise to add a pair of knee-high rubber boots to our shopping list for the coming school year, recalling past horrors of having to wade through filthy waters overflowing from the canal near the USCTC main gate. But before we join other commuters who blame our dear Alma Mater for not fixing its canals, we might consider checking how USC’s water specialists and engineers see the problem.
Among other things, recent study made by a team of USC experts shows that flooding in the road along the campus is far more than a simple canal problem. It’s plain old gravity: Rainwater water running down from the hills must go somewhere. In the case of Nasipit, runoff water from nearby hills must flow into the Cabancalan sinkhole, its natural catch basin.
Unfortunately, the sinkhole is now made narrow by recent landfill for subdivision projects. Lack of zoning plans is not only causing such encroachment of upmarket real estate, it has also spawned denser low end housing in recent years.
The increase in population naturally results in greater bulk of garbage and sewage, making the current drainage, which uses culverts with holes less than a meter wide, totally useless. They just couldn’t hold the impending deluge of sewage, rainwater, and garbage we failed to shoot into the bin.
Is there a more sensible way to brace for future floods than build an ark in the backyard?
The USC Cabancalan Sinkhole Study recommends that our city planners review land-use plans; create retention ponds at MCWD, USCTC, and Maria Luisa Estates; improve drainage system by installing culverts with bigger holes; and find alternative channels to direct water from the pond to the Butuanon river.
The latter may cause the most discomfort to the public, as it may have to cut through homes and other existing property that stand in its way. But, as in the Banilad flyover project, long term solution to a problem affecting most people often requires sacrifice on the part of the public.
Thus, with this study, the University has made its case before its partners—government institutions, NGOs, road users and homeowners from affected communities in Banilad, Nasipit, and Cabancalan. It’s now up to the authorities and the public in general to act on it.
technoblaze June 30th, 2008, 06:17 PM got this from istorya.net
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/2370/dscf0122se4yg0.jpg
Goku_25 July 6th, 2008, 03:59 AM Any updates?
animasola July 6th, 2008, 05:44 AM ^^Same question. I was looking forward to this project.
LordCarnal July 6th, 2008, 06:07 AM PROPOSED NAGA CITY PORT TO ACCOMMODATE CARGO,PASSENGER SHIPS
From Sunstar
Gov. Garcia tasked the Provincial Engineering Office (PEO) to conduct a statistical study on Cebu City’s piers so that the data could be used for the site development plan of the soon-to-be-constructed Naga City Port.
She also reminded that in making of the port’s master plan, the PEO should keep in mind that they are preparing a port capable of bringing cargo and passenger vessels.
"Build a port that will still be serviceable 20 years from now," she added during the meeting with Naga City Mayor Chiong and Cebu Port Authority (CPA) representatives.
Part of the study would include the number of vessels that the piers could accommodate, the routes of the vessels and the revenues.
She also tasked the PEO to prepare a separate presentation showing all the interconnections of the different piers where the port could be linked, in line with the vision for Naga’s port to be an international port.
Last year, the Province of Cebu and the City of Naga launched the construction of a new port, which, if completed, will be the "nautical crossroads of the Province of Cebu." The port will link the City of Naga to the islands of Leyte, Masbate, Negros and Bohol and parts of Mindanao.
After the launching, the city embarked on a three to four-hectare reclamation project beside the city plaza and prepared a 10-meter wide access road from the port to the national highway. With these, plus the widening of the roads from Naga to Carcar, the port is becoming ideal for bigger projects that could generate more revenues for the LGU.
The governor is particularly eyeing the yellow corn cargoes from Leyte, WG&A and Cokaliong Shipping Lines as possible targets for the port to attract.
If the plans push through, the Naga City Port will be the first port in the south to receive passenger vessels.
"Kay kung roro port atong buhaton, you’re in competition with almost anyone," she stated.
The master plan for the new port will be presented during the Provincial Development Council in August this year. Part of the plan would be the extension of the reclamation site to accommodate more passengers and cargos to maneuver.
diehardbisdak July 6th, 2008, 06:12 PM ^^ hate those wires.... :(
Sinjin P. July 6th, 2008, 06:21 PM ^ Whatever happened to the plan of Tomas to have all cables buried to the ground?
diehardbisdak July 6th, 2008, 06:32 PM ^^ is there a C.O. that requires Telcos and other Power Utilities to bury those wires in 10 to 15 years?
The Cebuano Exultor July 7th, 2008, 06:47 AM I was in "Island in the Sky" last March and I was trying to imagine how the highway will be built with the very deep "pang pang."
I hope this helps: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=19460307&postcount=985
flesh_is_weak July 7th, 2008, 09:09 AM ^^nice, murag katong bridge sa france...
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how's the bidding for the project anyway?
LordCarnal July 7th, 2008, 03:37 PM by the way in Sunstar a while ago, funds for the feasibility study of the proposed Cebu-Bohol bridge has already been approved.
I was against this project before but since it will be built through BOT then might as well pursue it..
Cebu will get water from Bohol... while Bohol will get Cebu's Power supply.. timing pod because I guess there are three power plants that are simultaneously being built now..
Went to Argao last week and the property across Salcon (to the left of the highway if you're going south) has already been cleared, I think they will build the power plant there??
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LordCarnal July 7th, 2008, 03:40 PM By the way in Sunstar a while ago, funds for the feasibility study of the proposed Cebu-Bohol bridge has already been approved.
I was against this project before but since it will be built through BOT then might as well pursue it..
Cebu will get water from Bohol... while Bohol will get Cebu's Power supply.. timing pod because I guess there are three power plants that are simultaneously being built now..
Went to Argao last week and the property across Salcon (to the left of the highway if you're going south) has already been cleared, I think they will build the power plant there??
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rau July 7th, 2008, 03:47 PM By the way in Sunstar a while ago, funds for the feasibility study of the proposed Cebu-Bohol bridge has already been approved.
I was against this project before but since it will be built through BOT then might as well pursue it..
Cebu will get water from Bohol... while Bohol will get Cebu's Power supply.. timing pod because I guess there are three power plants that are simultaneously being built now..
Went to Argao last week and the property across Salcon (to the left of the highway if you're going south) has already been cleared, I think they will build the power plant there??
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i just hope that the outcome of this feasibility study would be "not feasible" :)
flesh_is_weak July 7th, 2008, 04:13 PM ^^why not? with this bridge around, they could cancel Panglao International and give us a new airport instead :lol:
LordCarnal July 7th, 2008, 04:23 PM ^^
Possible baya noh that in the very distant future, an international airport that will serve both Bohol and Cebu will be located in Tubigon.. Basta diha dapita..
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Sinjin P. July 7th, 2008, 04:58 PM ^ So how is this related to the Trans-axial highway project? :)
Blair July 8th, 2008, 03:16 PM Construction of four-lane tunnel in Cebu fast-tracked
Angie Chui
The Department of Public Works and Highways (DPWH) said it is fast-tracking the implementation of Segment 3B-2 (subway section) of the Cebu South Coastal Road Project in Cebu which involves the construction of 610-meter twinbox, four-lane tunnel that passes under the Park Plaza Independencia in Cebu City.
A report of DPWH Metro Cebu Development Project Director Nilo Pamaylaon stated that the subway section is now 40.48 percent complete.
"The completion of this subway project will provide direct access to the southern reclamation area which is now a highly industrial zone, catering to the export processing, investment opportunities, business district and international container port in Cebu City," the report stated..
The project is also seen to ease traffic in the metropolis and cut travel time by half.
Meanwhile, Cebu City Planning and Development Coordinator Paul Villarete said since the DPWH had completed the first four packages of the Cebu South Coastal Road project, investors had poured funds in the Cebu South Reclamation Project which greatly contributed to the fast-growing economy of Cebu City.
"Even though the project is not yet fully completed because of the remaining works in the tunnel section, we are already experiencing the advantages of this new road network because since the DPWH had opened the Talisay Section, Causeway Section, Viaduct Section and the Offshore ramps the traffic in the Cebu metropolis was greatly reduced because of the new alternate road," Villarete said.
Project consultant Katahira and Engineers International said, however, the contractor has run into delays in the boring of sheet piles because of concrete boulders underneath due to old structures like the seawall, but it is now preparing catch-up measures in an effort to complete the project by June 2009
Sinjin P. July 8th, 2008, 03:17 PM ^ What? 40.48% complete palang? Why that slow?
EDIT: Nevermind, the article answered my question. :D
Blair July 8th, 2008, 03:23 PM gihinay hinay tingali nila aron dili maka disturb sa mga nag date sa babaw ..:lol:
flesh_is_weak July 8th, 2008, 03:36 PM "traffic in the metropolis is greatly reduced"
surely, none of them had been on a drive in the vicinity of Mambaling Exit during the rush hour
rau July 8th, 2008, 03:40 PM "traffic in the metropolis is greatly reduced"
surely, none of them had been on a drive in the vicinity of Mambaling Exit during the rush hour
mao gyud! korek!
kratos1211 July 8th, 2008, 05:37 PM Construction of four-lane tunnel in Cebu fast-tracked
Manila Bulletin
July 8, 2008
Angie Chui
The Department of Public Works and Highways (DPWH) said it is fast-tracking the implementation of Segment 3B-2 (subway section) of the Cebu South Coastal Road Project in Cebu which involves the construction of 610-meter twinbox, four-lane tunnel that passes under the Park Plaza Independencia in Cebu City.
A report of DPWH Metro Cebu Development Project Director Nilo Pamaylaon stated that the subway section is now 40.48 percent complete.
"The completion of this subway project will provide direct access to the southern reclamation area which is now a highly industrial zone, catering to the export processing, investment opportunities, business district and international container port in Cebu City," the report stated..
The project is also seen to ease traffic in the metropolis and cut travel time by half.
Meanwhile, Cebu City Planning and Development Coordinator Paul Villarete said since the DPWH had completed the first four packages of the Cebu South Coastal Road project, investors had poured funds in the Cebu South Reclamation Project which greatly contributed to the fast-growing economy of Cebu City.
"Even though the project is not yet fully completed because of the remaining works in the tunnel section, we are already experiencing the advantages of this new road network because since the DPWH had opened the Talisay Section, Causeway Section, Viaduct Section and the Offshore ramps the traffic in the Cebu metropolis was greatly reduced because of the new alternate road," Villarete said.
Project consultant Katahira and Engineers International said, however, the contractor has run into delays in the boring of sheet piles because of concrete boulders underneath due to old structures like the seawall, but it is now preparing catch-up measures in an effort to complete the project by June 2009.
flesh_is_weak July 8th, 2008, 05:42 PM with the sky-rocketing prices of oil and a possible (although dim) economic storm brewing, i have a hunch that this project would be on the shelves for a while
etienne July 8th, 2008, 06:54 PM "traffic in the metropolis is greatly reduced"
surely, none of them had been on a drive in the vicinity of Mambaling Exit during the rush hour
maybe because of high oil prices. more people are travelling less with their cars.
The Cebuano Exultor July 9th, 2008, 09:18 AM ^^ I think so, too.
But, I strongly believe in the practicality of this project.
kratos1211 July 9th, 2008, 03:14 PM Korean firm gets P135M feasibility study on Cebu-Bohol bridge
CEBU CITY, July 10 (PNA) -– A Korean firm has been awarded the contract to conduct a feasibility study for a bridge that will link the provinces of Cebu and Bohol provinces.
Cordova, Cebu Mayor Adelino Sitoy did not identify the Korean firm but said the feasibility study costs USD3 million, or P135.3 million at the present exchange rate of P45.1 to a dollar.
Sitoy said Bohol Gov. Erico Aumentado conceptualized the project and wanted it implemented either through a build-and-operate transfer scheme or by a group of Chinese investors to sell potable water from Bohol to Cebu, obtain power from Cebu and provide easy travel for tourists between the two provinces.
He said Aumentado knows Cebu is in need of potable water while it gets supply of power from Negros and Leyte.
”Hopefully he can find a financier,” he said.
The go-signal for the feasibility study was given last May 28, Sitoy said. The project is estimated to cost P42 billion.
The bridge will be 27 kms. long and 30 meters wide if built straight from Jetafe, Bohol to Cordova, Cebu.
But because of uneven depth of waters between the two provinces, the bridge is designed to be 40 kms. long, including causeways in several small islets.
He said there is no decision yet where in Cordova the bridge’s end will be built, although he suggested it should either be in Barangay Buagsong or Barangay Day-as.
He said the foot of the bridge will be constructed in Hilutongan and Olango Islands.
He said the bridge will avoid the marine sanctuaries in Cordova and Lapu-Lapu City.
”As far as I know President Arroyo is very much supportive of it, but there was no assurance of financial help from her,” he said. (PNA)
Juan Pilgrim July 9th, 2008, 07:58 PM I think Cordoba, Cebu is quite far from Jetafe, Bohol.
It will be a very expensive bridge if you ask me.
Santander, Cebu and San Jose, Negros Island is closer.
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LordCarnal July 10th, 2008, 09:40 AM ^^
The price tag was mentioned in the article, around P42 Billion.
Very expensive indeed.
Juan Pilgrim July 10th, 2008, 03:10 PM ^^IMHO I wouldn't spend that much money on one project at this time.
I do not think it will be worth it at this time.
I will rather spend that money on improving the infrastructures within the island of Cebu itself first.
:2cents:
:horse:
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flesh_is_weak July 11th, 2008, 05:15 AM ^^same here, imagine, with this, the next step could only be the trans-visayan bridges (and @arnold's 'proposed' airport on an artificial island between Cebu and Bohol)
flesh_is_weak July 11th, 2008, 05:16 AM ^^
The price tag was mentioned in the article, around P42 Billion.
Very expensive indeed.
agree ko atong imong proposal na airport sa tunga sa dagat sa Cebu ug Bohol
LordCarnal July 11th, 2008, 06:31 AM ^^
Hehehehehehe, floating Airport?
Cebuski78 July 11th, 2008, 11:53 AM very bad idea nga tukuran nag structures nang tunga sa bohol og cebu, sayang ang seascape..magdaot daot lang na sa natural environment, naa baya diha ang mga nindot nga gagmayng isla og mga coral reefs nga maoy dayohon sa mga tourista...nindot ang development pero di lang patak-an...
kinahanglan balance ang modern growth og ang protection sa atong rich ecology and environment....
di ta mosundog sa dubai..kato sila wa man to silay masayang kay puro sand, desyerto man to ilang syudad... hehehehe! :lol:
Cebuski78 July 11th, 2008, 12:00 PM sakto naman unta nang mga fastcraft oi...di man gyud ingon ana ka urgent ang demand sa bridge, nga gusto gyud mas modali pa ang byahe..over na. unsay gusto kanang murag kapaspas nas kilat ang inyong pagtravel...hehehe
palambo-on lang ang fastcraft, mga barko og mga pantalan nato, solve nana...
usahay O.A na kaayo miski di gyud kaayo maoy basic demand...focus nalang ta paghan-ay sa mga dalan sa metro cebu oi...didto nalang na ihapak ang gasto, sa kuwang kaayo nato nga infrastructure og pirte ka gubot nga traffic flow sa syudad...:lol::lol:
Cebuski78 July 11th, 2008, 12:24 PM --delete
Cebuski78 July 11th, 2008, 12:28 PM for me, murag over nanang bridge nga moconnect sa cebu og bohol..
layo kaayo na oi nya daghan kaayo madaot nga coral reefs and nindot nga islands diha, usa pod madaot ang seascape, sayang mao baya nay dayohon sa mga turista....
madala ra na sa atong fastcraft and barko ang pagtravel padong bohol oi..i-further develop and mas ipamodernize lang na atong pantalan og mga barko para mas convenient pa ang pagbyahe....di gyud practical og di gyud importante nang bridge or any structures nga itukod sa tunga sa bohol og cebu, gawas pa sa makadaot sa attraction sa eco tourism, mas daghan pa gyud ta atimanon nga mga infrastructure diri sa metro cebu. ang atong mga highways, traffic, og ang order sa syudad mismo maoy angay hatagan og pagtagad para mas modaghan og mas moattract pa gyud ta og daghan pang investors and tourists, og para pod sa comfort sa whole urban community....
OA ra ang bridge to bohol...pero mas uyon kos trans-axial highway and bridge to negros kay mas feasible og duol ra ang distance sa santander og negros....
:banana::banana::lol::lol::lol:
Sleepwalker July 11th, 2008, 01:02 PM sakto naman unta nang mga fastcraft oi...di man gyud ingon ana ka urgent ang demand sa bridge, nga gusto gyud mas modali pa ang byahe..over na. unsay gusto kanang murag kapaspas nas kilat ang inyong pagtravel...hehehe
palambo-on lang ang fastcraft, mga barko og mga pantalan nato, solve nana...
usahay O.A na kaayo miski di gyud kaayo maoy basic demand...focus nalang ta paghan-ay sa mga dalan sa metro cebu oi...didto nalang na ihapak ang gasto, sa kuwang kaayo nato nga infrastructure og pirte ka gubot nga traffic flow sa syudad...:lol::lol:
I am with you on this... :)
Why not divide the 42 billion and give to Cebu and Bohol so that it can improve more its infrastructures... :)
Sinjin P. July 11th, 2008, 01:03 PM ^ Well, we have nothing to divide really because the project, if realized, will be built through the BOT scheme.
Blair July 11th, 2008, 04:09 PM Cebu Trans-axial project report now with Eco Enterprise Council
Consultants of the Cebu Trans-Axial Development Project study yesterday turned over their report and the equipment used in the study to the Economic Enterprise Council chaired by Governor Gwendolyn Garcia.
The council also passed a resolution recommending the use of the equipment utilized in the conceptualization of the project.
The status report of the multibillion CTDP was presented to the members of the Provincial Board the other day during its regular session by Vice Governor Gregorio Sanchez Jr., the brain of the project.
PB members had approved said status report before it was submitted to the Council for further study.
The 300-kilometer four-lane highway, seen to connect all municipalities of mainland Cebu with Santander as the farthest point in the south and Daanbantayan in the north, would be undertaken through a build-operate-transfer scheme.
Of the whole stretch, 220 kilometers will cover the existing roads that need improvement, while about 80 kilometers of additional road will be built.
The highway is seen to cut travel time by 40 percent and disperse development to the countryside.
About 12 toll fee plazas will be constructed and a 1.6-kilometer tunnel will be built in Tungalub, Oslob.
Further, the project will tap at least 120 rivers in Cebu as water sources. Windmill farms will be put up to provide power.
Blair July 11th, 2008, 04:13 PM edit
flesh_is_weak July 14th, 2008, 06:45 PM what if like @bernie's meet-for-a-cause, mag meet-for-a-cause pud kaha tang forumers sa SSC Cebu...i know most (if not all) of us are amateurs without any background on the topic that i am about to propose, but i see that no other people in this city are more knowledgeable or more passionate about Cebu than the forumers of SSC Cebu...so what about this, we'll designate a meet (or series of meets) with the main agenda of drafting a Plan for the City of Cebu / Metro Cebu...who knows, once it's done, the government might take notice of it and actually put it into action :)
let's cut down on the socialization muna and get down to business :lol:
Cebuski78 July 14th, 2008, 08:37 PM what if like @bernie's meet-for-a-cause, mag meet-for-a-cause pud kaha tang forumers sa SSC Cebu...i know most (if not all) of us are amateurs without any background on the topic that i am about to propose, but i see that no other people in this city are more knowledgeable or more passionate about Cebu than the forumers of SSC Cebu...so what about this, we'll designate a meet (or series of meets) with the main agenda of drafting a Plan for the City of Cebu / Metro Cebu...who knows, once it's done, the government might take notice of it and actually put it into action :)
let's cut down on the socialization muna and get down to business :lol:
Nindot kayo na imo nahuna-hunaan bai..ako usa sa active nimo nga membro ana, inig uli nako cebu...uli gyud kog Cebu oi... kay labi na tungod sa developments ron, feeling nako nga kinahanglan gyud ko mohatag sa akong
miski gamay nga effort for the City or the province...hehe! murag naa pod ako passion diha... eskwela pud ko pohon Urban or environmental planning...hehe! unsay nindot nga school gaoffer ana nga course?
Lingaw na part, murag its a way of making ourselves useful and of purpose
in the growth and sustainable development of the great Island of Cebu...:banana::banana::banana:
Ph Man July 14th, 2008, 09:02 PM have you ever wondered why Koreans won the bid to conduct the feasibility study? maybe because of their keen interest in Bohol and Cebu's tourism. the first and second times i travelled via Oceanjet to Bohol from Cebu, more than half of the passengers are either Korean or Chinese. i won't be surprised if they end up getting a BOT contract to construct the bridge. and it's all good news for us. however, i wonder if the bridge is at all, necessary, or feasible. i guess Iloilo-Guimaras is more plausible. but the impetus for the former is simply stronger.
Cebuski78 July 14th, 2008, 09:52 PM have you ever wondered why Koreans won the bid to conduct the feasibility study? maybe because of their keen interest in Bohol and Cebu's tourism. the first and second times i travelled via Oceanjet to Bohol from Cebu, more than half of the passengers are either Korean or Chinese. i won't be surprised if they end up getting a BOT contract to construct the bridge. and it's all good news for us. however, i wonder if the bridge is at all, necessary, or feasible. i guess Iloilo-Guimaras is more plausible. but the impetus for the former is simply stronger.
Yes i agree that iloilo-guimaras-negros is more likely to happen, or negros-santander, cebu...its better if they pursue these projects first....
flesh_is_weak July 15th, 2008, 01:49 PM ^^maybe they'll build something like this:
http://www.morecambebay.org.uk/images/sport%27rec/2_seoul.jpg
Incheon Grand Bridge (12+ Km)
technoblaze July 16th, 2008, 02:52 AM FLYOVER UPDATE*July 4
Banilad flyover project can’t be completed by July 31 (http://globalnation.inquirer.net/cebudailynews/news/view/20080704-146407/Banilad-flyover-project-cant--be-completed-by-July-31)
(http://globalnation.inquirer.net/cebudailynews/news/view/20080704-146407/Banilad-flyover-project-cant--be-completed-by-July-31)
By Chris Ligan
Cebu Daily News
First Posted 11:22:00 07/04/2008
CEBU CITY, Philippines - The flyover project at the Governor Manuel Cuenco Avenue in barangay Banilad, Cebu City, will not be finished on July 31 as earlier promised by the contractor, WTG Construction and Development Corp., due to the problem in lot acquisition for the widening of roads.
The construction hit a snag afte some private land owners demanded payment first before they would allow a portion of their lots to be used.
Councilor Sylvan “Jack” Jakosalem said the Department of Public Works and Highways in Central Visayas (DPWH-7) reported that some of the land owners will not honor their previous commitment to allow payment after a month after their lots are used to widen the roads.
The lot owners demanded to get the payment first so they can spend to fix and develop a portion of their houses, which will be affected by the road widening.
Jakosalem said the land owners’ refusal would set back the project.
“Some of the private lots are critical areas because that’s where part of the flyover would extend,” said Jakosalem.
He said the Cebu City government would not allow the closure of roads in the area.
“Never mind if the construction takes a long time as long as the road will not be closed because the area may become impassable,” Jakosalem said.
He said the contractor promised best efforts to finish the project by July 31,which is sooner than their contracted deadline in October , because they were under the impression at the time that the land owners had agreed to sell their lots.
In earlier reports, Engr. Christopher Semilla of WTG gave no guarantees as to when the project would be completed if the lots, at least key ones close to the flyover, were not acquired.
Lot owner refused to sell their lots after learning that the budget for lot acquisition was not released by the Department of Budget and Management.
In a press conference on June 14 at the DPWH-7 office, Rep. Raul del Mar announced that the DBM has released P80 million for the project, part of which would got to land acquisition.
Augustinito Hermoso, DPWH-7 legal counsel, yesterday said that although their office is listed by the DBM as the creditor of the P80 million, no money has been released to them yet.
But he assured this is being followed up and that the DBM will release the corresponding amounts under the name of the claimants through notice of cash allocation to be released in the second or third week of July.
The Cebu City Council earlier requested to defer implementation of the flyover unless the budget for land acquisition, including the budget for the box culvert in the Mahiga bridge in Banilad, will be released. /With Reporter Hayde D. Quiñanola
richard24 July 16th, 2008, 07:13 AM why don't they spend the P42 billion for a new airport instead? kahit hatiin pa sa dalawa., eh di dalawang airport for cebu and bohol at a cost of P21 billion each? cebu badly needs a new terminal to keep up with the booming economy.
vicven2 July 16th, 2008, 12:32 PM Personally, if this is developed without cost to the government, and there is minimal impact to the environment, then this would be a welcome effort.
IMHO, forget a new airport. a lot more could be done with a bridge. imagine being able to travel to bohol cheaply and quickly. If this is done right, then those from bohol would be able to return home easily, perhaps even commute home everyday. if the distance is about 20KM, thats about the distance to minglanilla from cebu.
Which has more traffic, cebu-bohol, or negros-cebu? if it is cebu-bohol, then with the advantage of water-power exchange, then this is a project worth looking into.
But only if this is without cost to the government. If the government spends for this, then this should be scrapped.
jrevalde July 16th, 2008, 01:45 PM ^^the article up top mentions that the bridge is designed to be 40 kms long.
I have always opposed this whole idea of building a bridge to bohol. Its way too expensive. As ive said before on previous threads, it makes more sense to build a bridge to negros not only because its closer but also because Negros island is much more economically important than bohol. The governor of bohol is just delusional, even PGMA knows it and thats the reason why she never promised any funding for such an absurd project.
flesh_is_weak July 16th, 2008, 02:36 PM ^^i'm with you in that...think of all the geothermal power in Negros Island...plus the fact that it has more cities than Bohol :okay:
as for Bohol, they should be happy with the fact that their island's secrets would stay hidden for another decade or so...when the time is ripe, i'm sure preserving them would pay off big time
Wolfranz July 16th, 2008, 03:54 PM ^^ well, it's gov. aumentado of bohol who's 'atat' with this dream.
diehardbisdak July 16th, 2008, 05:23 PM ^^ talking about "kickbacks" from the project...as good as he won the lottery...
Cebuski78 July 16th, 2008, 08:22 PM ^^i'm with you in that...think of all the geothermal power in Negros Island...plus the fact that it has more cities than Bohol :okay:
as for Bohol, they should be happy with the fact that their island's secrets would stay hidden for another decade or so...when the time is ripe, i'm sure preserving them would pay off big time
Your truly right bai, mao na ako kasayangan sa bohol, kanang maexploit na nya pag-ayo ang island..i like bohol to stay the way it is, layed back, peaceful, full of mystery and adventure, and greeeennn...Lugar na sa akong papa, di pod siya ganahan matuman na nga project...the bridge would be a big scar in the paradise island of bohol...hehehe! :lol::lol:
Cebuski78 July 16th, 2008, 08:27 PM dugang pa...exchanging of villains would also be easy...ang bugoy, gang2x sa cebu didto na mangikyas og magsamok sa bohol, og ang mga rebelde sa bohol sayon nalang manggubot og mangayo revolutionary tax sa mga negosyante sa Cebu...hahahaha! magkumbati na sila...hehehe!:banana::banana:
etienne July 17th, 2008, 06:28 PM i remember riding a fastcraft from tubigon to cebu, it only took forty five minutes. mura ra og nagsakay ka og jeep.
40 kms is way too long... i dont think its realy necessary. if cebu needs water, then why not hav it through underwater pipes.
great184 July 17th, 2008, 06:38 PM sadly that fastcraft service is no longer operational. The route was deemed financially unsustainable. Today it takes 2 hours with the faster regular ferries.
jrevalde July 18th, 2008, 12:54 AM ^^wow really? i thought it was just supercat that stopped that route. So oceanjet and those other fastcrafts have stopped going to bohol as well?
The Cebuano Exultor July 18th, 2008, 01:12 AM ^^ He:lol:he:lol:
I think you misunderstood what great184 posted.
The axed route is the Cebu - Tubigon route, and not the Cebu - Tagbilaran route. The latter route is extremely busy, with Weesam Express, Oceanjet, and SuperCat each plying the route more than once a day back-and-forth.
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