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SABC awarded broadcasting rights for period until 2014 FIFA World Cup™

On the day of the launch of the 2010 Official Emblem and the 'Win in Africa – with Africa' initiative, FIFA is pleased to announce another important deal in the host country of the first FIFA World Cup™ taking place on African soil: the South African Broadcasting Corporation (SABC) was today awarded the broadcasting rights for all FIFA competitions between 2007 and 2014, which include the two FIFA World Cup™ final competitions and the two FIFA Confederations Cups that are due to take place during this period.

The agreement consists of all main audiovisual rights for both free and pay TV as well as radio. In addition, SABC is committed to ensuring wide access for the entire South African media industry including potential sub-licensees. “We are convinced that we have found in SABC a partner that can deliver the beautiful game to South African viewers in an excellent manner. Importantly, its coverage will go far beyond FIFA World Cup broadcasts since it comprises guaranteed coverage of all other FIFA tournaments for men and women and at senior and youth levels so as to promote all of the different facets of the game and strengthen women’s and youth development particularly in South Africa. SABC is joining our alliance to use football to build a better future. I am extremely happy with this momentous deal,” commented FIFA President Joseph S. Blatter.

“SABC is committed to playing its part in ensuring that the radio and television broadcasts of the 2010 FIFA World Cup reach the largest possible audience. This contributes to our goal of national building and total empowerment of all our citizens. We thank FIFA for placing their trust in the SABC’s proven ability to deliver,” said Sonwabo Eddie Funde.

Today on SABC1 I saw 2 other stadum desgns for 2010, the one for Mpumalanga and Limpopo, bt I must bigups to Mpumalanga, the design is manifique. Could you guys please post the designs if you have got.

SVEN would be the WORST coach for Bafana Bafana, to me he is useless and not worth the money he got paid by England.

and why all our threads being closed and recreated by a mod that doesnt even ever interact with us??

wasnt the new emblem released the other day?

wat does it look like?

I think the rule should be for stadium names, make it 7 letters max. please,
anything above is too hard!

also I dont like the emblem, its too dark and busy..
too red and black..
it looks like the guy is going to fall over..

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the emblem is a yawn to me, dont like the font used for the SA 2010 part either

Emblem is ugly, dull and uninspired. Would've thought they could come up with something better.

I think it should be more colourful, how about this?

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or this:

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that second one is actually rather cool

BBC


"We'll bring world class organisation, of that I've got no doubt
Michael Sutcliffe, head of civil administration in Durban, South Africa"

Today on SABC1 I saw 2 other stadum desgns for 2010, the one for Mpumalanga and Limpopo, bt I must bigups to Mpumalanga, the design is manifique. Could you guys please post the designs if you have got.
cool

Durban outlines 2010 plans
Chris Khumalo

7 July 2006

Durban city officials have announced plans to build a giant beachfront fan zone for the 2010 World Cup. Based on the German model, the fan zones will provide big screens and other entertainment for the millions of fans expected.

In June the City unveiled the design of the new 70 000 seat stadium that will be built in time for the 2010 tournament.

Speaking in Durban on Thursday, city manager Mike Sutcliffe said the plans included transforming the entire beachfront from uShaka Marine World to Blue Lagoon into a World Cup fan zone, building underground parking for hundreds of cars at the beach end of West Street and a tram system to back up the long-awaited "People Mover" inner city public transport system.

The beachfront fan zone would have direct pedestrian access to the newly landscaped beach on the site of the old Seaworld and Lido.

'Invaluable'
"What we’ve learned from the German experience has been invaluable. We’re already busy working these lessons into our own plans for 2010," Sutcliffe told diplomats from more than a dozen countries at a briefing hosted by the city’s investment promotion agency (Dipa) and the Chamber of Commerce at a beachfront hotel.

He said that one of the key priorities would be security.

"Germany has handled this superbly. High visibility policing, combined with a fan-friendly but firm attitude, has worked wonders," Dr Sutcliffe said.

Party zones
Julie-May Ellingson, who heads Durban's strategic projects unit and the city’s preparations for 2010, said she’d been particularly impressed by the areas set aside in German cities for fans to eat, drink and party in between watching the matches on giant screens.

With Durban set to host several matches, including semi-finals, the beachfront has been earmarked as the ideal fan-zone.

Ellingson said negotiations around the interim People Mover to link uShaka, the Suncoast Casino and the city centre were at an advanced stage and that it could be operating by August.

Each bus in the distinctive People Mover fleet would be fitted with closed circuit TV cameras, both inside and outside, as would the bus stops.

"This will provide an added level of security not only for passengers, but also for the areas in which the People Mover operates," said Ellingson.

Sports precinct
Also under serious consideration was another tram system linking key tourism nodes and the Kings Park sports precinct.

"We have had expressions of interest from American and French companies and we firmly believe we can have a tram in place by 2010," she said.

Sutcliffe, Ellingson and other officials will return to Germany next month to present the city’s preliminary 2010 plans to world football officials and to the travel industry.

Source: BuaNews

Pretoria transport to get 2010 facelift

By Patrick Hlahla

A major overhaul has been proposed for the Tshwane Metro area's transport system in preparation for the 2010 World Cup soccer tournament.

The multi-million project includes the construction of an overhead pedestrian linkage between the University of Pretoria/Loftus Station and Loftus Versfeld Stadium, the development of a rail corridor between Mabopane and Hammanskraal stations, construction of a public transport facility at Wonderboom Airport to cater for buses, minibus and metered taxis, and the upgrading of Hans Strijdom Drive up to Trichard Road.

Other initiatives include the colour-coding of minibus and metered taxis linked to specific public transport routes and legal operating licences and the development of an integrated ticketing system for public transport in conjunction with the Gauteng provincial government and Johannesburg and Ekurhuleni metro councils.

An estimated R176-million is expected to be used by both the Tshwane Metro Council and the Department of Transport.

He could not say how much money had been budgeted
The municipality has established a Tshwane 2010 World Cup Consultative Forum which comprises a number of stakeholders including the Chambers of Commerce and Industry of South Africa (Chamsa).

Only Loftus Versfeld Stadium has been confirmed by Fifa as one of the 10 stadiums to host the 2010 World Cup matches as was Royal Bafokeng in Rustenburg.

The Metro Council has proposed Super Stadium (Atteridgeville), Giant Stadium (Soshanguve) and HM Pitje (Mamelodi) as training venues for the World Cup tournament. LC de Villiers (University of Pretoria) and Pilditch (Pretoria West) are also available as training venues.

Council spokesperson William Baloyi said they were awaiting approval from Fifa in connection with the proposed training venues. He could not say how much money had been budgeted for the upgrading of the HM Pitje and Giant stadiums.

Plans for the proposed Rainbow Stadium, earmarked for a piece of land between Pretoria North and Wonderboom, had temporarily been shelved. "The municipality has taken over the project after delays caused by private developers."

Baloyi said funds would be made available for the stadium which was proposed in the Bid Book to Fifa.

Council official Mike Krynauw stated in a report submitted to council last month that transport and road infrastructure in the vicinity of the stadiums needed to be upgraded to handle the number of spectators expected to attend the tournament.

Krynauw said the reinstatement of the rail commuter service between Pretoria and Hammanskraal was critical.

"The need for such a service has been enhanced by the one-sided action by the National Roads Agency in developing the Platinum Toll Highway with toll tariffs much higher than the norm."

"The rail authorities have long-term plans to link the Mabopane and Hammanskraal stations by rail.

"Such long-term plans can be superseded by running a dedicated bus or minibus taxi service in such a public transport corridor," he said.

Kganare Lefoka, Chamsa's chief executive officer, said yesterday they had developed a strategic approach to tackle key issues like transport, accommodation, enterprise development, community involvement and safety and security.

Lefoka said they sent a high-level delegation to Germany last year to look at how they deal with safety and security issues.

"Unfortunately, Fifa regulations prohibit us from making our plans public. This might be seen as undermining what Germany is doing for the (2006) World Cup," said Lefoka.

He said they could only make their plans public once the final whistle of this year's tournament had blown.

Ohhh, so *THAT'S* the significance of the WC 2010 logo! I got the SA flag as Africa bit but not the wierd posture of the player. Makes much more sense now and it seems to be well received overseas....

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All eyes on South Africa for 2010
By Sam Wilson
BBC News, Berlin

Even before we know the winner of the 2006 World Cup, attention is beginning to shift to the next extravaganza, to be held in South Africa in four years' time.

Africa colonised a corner of Berlin on Friday as the emblem for the 2010 event was unveiled, in the presence of the South African president, Thabo Mbeki, and the United Nations secretary-general, Kofi Annan.


The next World Cup will be the first on African soil

African singers, dancers and percussionists drummed up anticipation, while a narrator told us the story behind the emblem. It began, she disclosed, "in the ancient mists of time".

The logo was revealed and it did, indeed, seem more inspired than the bland creations usually displayed by sporting tournaments.

It features a player about to perform a bicycle kick, against a background of the African continent, half of which is painted in the colours of the South African flag.

The designer, Gaby de Abreu, told the BBC News website he had tried "to capture the essence of what the World Cup in 2010 is all about ... the flair of African football, with the bicycle kick.


"We had to show it was very celebratory as well, that there's a lot of emotion there."


Intense scrutiny

But the event was not really about the badge - it was an unofficial handover to South Africa for the next World Cup.

It is South Africa which will now face four years of intensifying global scrutiny.


Organisers say the next World Cup will come with an African flavour

Germany has pulled off a highly acclaimed tournament. Now people want to know: can South Africa match it?

It will be, after all, probably the biggest event ever staged in Africa, and the first World Cup held outside the so-called "first world" for more than two decades.

South African president Thabo Mbeki gave an unambiguous answer to the questions.

"We said we will host in 2010 the most successful Fifa World Cup and we will keep that promise," he declared.


Tumi Makgabo, the presenter of Friday's ceremony and a member of the 2010 organising committee, played down comparisons with Germany's achievements.

"We're not trying to put together a German World Cup," she told the BBC News website. "This is supposed to be a South African experience."

Big challenge

But while the organisers want to stress that the next World Cup will come with an African flavour, they are at pains to insist that South Africa can manage the tournament as well as Germany, Japan or France.

Alongside the African masks on the walls of the Tempodrom venue in Berlin were phrases like "expanding infrastructure", "tourism" and "sector investment".


Even the story narrator, while eulogising "magic and beauty" and "ancient wisdoms", somehow managed to weave in the words "modern technology".


Michael Sutcliffe, who runs the civil administration in Durban, which is likely to host a semi-final, says: "We'll bring world-class organisation, of that I've got no doubt.

"We'll also bring fashion, and colour and life, and variety and diversity. As a country we're full of that vibrancy, and we'll bring that to the World Cup."

Sifiso Cele, sports editor of Johannesburg's Sunday Sun, says that the media will scrutinise how the run-up to the World Cup is managed.


We'll bring world class organisation, of that I've got no doubt

Michael Sutcliffe, head of civil administration in Durban, South Africa

But he is equally convinced that South Africa will pull off a great tournament.

"South Africa has proved we are able to host mega events," he says.

The media and trade unions and others have demanded that while huge investment goes into the World Cup, essential projects like housing and social welfare are not neglected.

Mr Cele feels the transport networks in South African cities may be the weak link in the programme.

National pride

But he is in no doubt that South Africans are behind the project.

"When the announcement was made the whole country jumped," he says.

It is a feeling echoed by another South African in Berlin. Thabo Tolo is the assistant choreographer for Afrika! Afrika!, an acclaimed musical and dance extravaganza that aims to present a continent united by art and culture.

He is pleased by South Africa's promise that 2010 will showcase the whole of Africa.

He says: "It is a good thing that the World Cup is going to the Rainbow Nation - Africa as a whole is going to host the World Cup.


South Africa 2010 will benefit from a huge amount of public goodwill

"All eyes will be on Africa now, and all Africans will support South Africa."

The organisers of the next World Cup clearly start out with a great deal of confidence and goodwill from the public and media.

Mzimasi Mgebisa, managing editor of South African broadcaster SABC Sport, has no doubts about the management.


"Nothing will go wrong," he asserts.

His biggest concern is not whether the World Cup will be an organisational success.

Nor is he diverted too long by Kofi Annan's praise of the "universal language of football", or Thabo Mbeki's "human solidarity".

Rather, he has the same worry as every other football fan worldwide.

"The issue for me will be how our team performs," he says. "We're not here at 2006.

"If you go back 10 years we won the African Nations Cup in 1996," he says, adding that the years since then have seen a consistent decline.

"Do we have enough time over the next two or three years to put up a team? I'm in doubt of that."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/5160298.stm

World Cup 2010. Bring it on.!

The countdown has now officially begun.

Tick, tock....

The countdown has now officially begun.

Tick, tock....
BOOM!!!

I am a bit worried about the Africans' continuos statement that SA2010 should not be compared to Germany, as it will be an 'african WC or have an african flava'. If they mean 'african-themed', then I'm all fine with that. It comes across to me however, that they are actually saying not to expect something of great quality, but of a third world quality tournament- as if africans themselves dont have high expectations of themselves. The other thing is, the whole WC organization almost appears like an ANC orchestrated event. I would hope not, as we all know how they high jacked & screwed up Cape Towns Olympic bid with all the political melodrama- all talk and no action.

I am a bit worried about the Africans' continuos statement that SA2010 should not be compared to Germany, as it will be an 'african WC or have an african flava'. If they mean 'african-themed', then I'm all fine with that. It comes across to me however, that they are actually saying not to expect something of great quality, but of a third world quality tournament- as if africans themselves dont have high expectations of themselves. The other thing is, the whole WC organization almost appears like an ANC orchestrated event. I would hope not, as we all know how they high jacked & screwed up Cape Towns Olympic bid with all the political melodrama- all talk and no action.
I'd like to explain the cape town olympic bid and why it did not win but that would take forever. The cape town bid was in fact more of a success than a failure. the turning point was when raymond ackerman who had personally travelled the world meeting almost every ioc member resigned due to his skin colour amongst other things. cape town needed votes...raymond ackerman = votes. secondly we were going up against athens who felt like the IOC owed them the games. but yet some political drama did damper the bid. IMO the ANC did much more good than bad regading the olympic bid.
Although cape town would have hosted a succesful games, at the time cape town was in its infancy, and the timing was completely out.


Internatioanally when u mention the 2020 olympic games cape town' name is there 8/10 times on many forums specifically related to the olympic games.

regarding the ANC...yes they are able to mess things up..but u have to understand they are dealing with FIFA..
ANC: cape town will host games at athlone
FIFA: nO!. greenpoint
ANC: yes FIFA.
FIFA: we will take over ticketing
ANC: yes FIFA
FIFA: do you want another broadcaster to get the broadcasting rights
ANC: no FIFA, the SABC wants it
FIFA: ok the sABC gets it.so where will matches in cape town be played?
ANC: greenpoint ...what a brilliant idea FIFA

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So far Durban seems to be only city actively preparing for the WC. The other cities are still in a "wake me up when the fans are here" mood! Any idea as to when CT will finally decide where to stage the event, and what the stadium design will be unveiled?

Also, I dont hear any plans for a decent transport system- minibus taxis should not even be mentioned as they are a menace and a disgrace. A reminder that there's currently still a SINGLE railway line connecting CT with Stellenbosch, and CT with Strand with a train running every hour (last time I heard)!

BOOM!!!
Speaking of BOOM, they blasted the south stand of the old kingspark on Sat, & they doing the other stand on Tuesday! I cant wait to here the explosion from work! I gotta get me a vantage point to see the stand go down like domino's!

we'd like to see it too! Get pictures DB, seeing that we in CT are in no hurry!!

First look at 2010 stadium John Yeld 10 July, 2006 Front Page

Capetonians are set to get their first glimpse of the design of the proposed 2010 soccer World Cup stadium in Green Point on Friday. This is when the draft environmental impact assessment (EIA) report is due to be released for public

BOOM!!!

Gahh! *faint* [thud]

Security key to World Cup in SA

July 10, 2006

By Staff Reporter

Security - that's is the single most important word from the head of the City of Cape Town's World Cup organising committee, Teral Cullen, as South Africa begins the countdown to the 2010 World Cup.

Speaking to the Cape Argus from Germany this morning after attending the World Cup final in Berlin, Cullen said security and infrastructure were the key to staging a successful
tournament.

The capacity of the SAPS would have to be drastically improved if it was to lead planning and operation of security for the event successfully, she said.

Meanwhile, President Thabo Mbeki boldly declared yesterday that South Africa would "succeed in organising a World Cup to Fifa's satisfaction and for millions of fans across the globe".

As the final whistle brought down the curtain in Berlin on a superbly organised event, the eyes of the world turned to South Africa.

Speaking from her hotel in Berlin, Cullen said the Germans had excellent transport and security measures in place to cope with hundreds of thousands of fans arriving in the country for the World Cup .

Large-scale security measures included high-profile visible policing, with officers in vehicles and on foot wherever spectators were present.

"Security is a huge responsibility and cost and the SAPS would have to lead the planning and execution of such levels of security," Cullen said.

Despite strategic road closures and high security, World Cup cities had continued to function normally and daily business had not been interrupted, Cullen said.

"People worked together to achieve success and there has consistently been a great relationship between football and government in the country.

"As far as transport was concerned, it was easy to move around, with both inner-city transport and inter-city services.

"In the cities, people walked a lot and it should be no different in Cape Town, as our city is small and has its own special structure, when you consider the city bowl effect.

"We will therefore have to provide sufficient security for people to be able to do so.

"Of course, there were hold-ups in Germany too. It took us 45 minutes to get from the stadium to a function hosted by the SA Department of Arts and Culture last night at the end of the game.
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"We need to plan how people will move about town."

Cullen said as a long-haul destination, South Africa would not expect to get the same volume of spectators as Germany.

"Many people came (to Germany) for a single overnight stay. We will have people staying for longer. According to our bid book, we should expect that between 25% and 30% of the spectators will be foreign."

Cullen said the city's planned new stadium and the related transport plan had to be completed in parallel and that transport was part of the overall environmental impact assessment.

Mbeki told journalists in Berlin yesterday: "We have absolutely no doubt we will stage a very successful World Cup in 2010. We will succeed in organising a World Cup to Fifa's satisfaction and for millions of fans across the globe.

"It is important for the whole continent of Africa and we are very conscious that we dare not and cannot fail," he said.

"Some people might have already aired their scepticism, but they will see in four years' time that Africans can do this. They will see that Africa can discharge its responsibilities the same as every other continent.

Mbeki was in Berlin both to watch the World Cup final and to witness the signing of a deal between Fifa and the European Commission to use the 2010 World Cup as a vehicle to promote African development.

Fifa president Sepp Blatter said he expected a "wonderful World Cup" in 2010.

"Not only does Fifa trust the African organisers - more than that, the market trusts Africa," said Blatter, who suggested the next edition of soccer's biggest tournament would generate more money than any before it.

"Of course, the 2010 World Cup will not be the same as this one, but the World Cup in South Korea and Japan had its own character too," he said.

"It will be a World Cup played to the sound of African drums and all of Africa will be supporting it."

THE DEMOLITION

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Q: is there a south african team/squad in the world cup this 2010?

Yeah, most foreign observers have also noted that only Durbs seems to have its act together. Interesting article, esp the township aspect...

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Only 1,419 days to go

By : Mark Gleeson, 10/07/2006

The World Cup will be a rather different experience when it gets under way in South Africa in 2010. It has already been decided that all 32 finalists will train at revamped venues in the nation's black townships during the 2010 finals, which leaves the chances of a return to the opulent splendour and sedate tranquillity of Baden Baden remote indeed. That is, of course, assuming that England qualify.

Instead the exotic names of Orlando in Soweto, Atteridgeville, Mamelodi, Botshabelo and KwaMashu await the visiting sides, whose days of country-club seclusion during the tournament are now gone.

Taking the teams to the townships offers the World Cup experience to a population mostly unlikely to be able to afford a trip to the stadiums for the matches. Although organisers have promised ticket prices will not increase, they will also be no cheaper than those in Germany, leaving access to the World Cup games well out of the range of the majority, for whom around £100 per month is the minimum wage.

But for those who are able to buy tickets, and indeed the expected 500,000 visitors from overseas, it will prove a much different World Cup experience from the super-slick organisation of the Germans.

Even South Africa's president, Thabo Mbeki, a renowned technocrat with an eye for detail, said last Friday that it would be an "African World Cup", a euphemism more commonly employed these days to ready visitors for an experience likely to be a little chaotic, frustrating and dishevelled but full of charm, spontaneity and old-fashioned fun. South Africans pride themselves on hospitality and a ready eye for a party.

Visitors must be reminded that this will be the first World Cup since Argentina in 1978 to be played in the winter, hopefully sparing locals the shock of topless, tattooed Englishmen trying to imitate the colouring of the popular red lobsters in plentiful supply off the South African coast.

Fifa, whose Swiss sensibilities are likely to receive an enormous jolt over the next four years as they coax the South Africans into a state of readiness, plan to swarm all over the country from this October, deploying key personnel into the 2010 organising structures. Never before have Fifa played such a big part in preparing a country for World Cup hosting but their president, Sepp Blatter, has staked enormous political prestige and credibility on giving Africa the World Cup. Cynics say that the eye on a Nobel Peace Prize makes the risk worthwhile.

Rumours that the tournament might be moved to Australia if the South Africans do not prove up to the task were passionately dispelled by Blatter in Berlin last Friday, when South Africa staged a £1 million party to unveil its 2010 logo. He must now ensure it works.

It is important for Mbeki and other progressive African leaders, too, fighting to rid the image of a continent mired in war, corruption and poverty. South Africa's president, whose term expires in 2009, sees a successful World Cup as a way to rid the world of its stereotypical image of Africa. But, in one sense, Friday's party in Berlin, full of dancing, singing and speeches from Mbeki, Blatter and UN secretary-general Kofi Annan, served only to re-emphasise them. Since South Africa won the right to host the World Cup more than two years ago, there has been a lot of celebration and jockeying for position but little visible movement.

Only last week did construction begin on one of the four new stadiums being built for the competition. And that was in the coastal resort city of Durban, which already has a major venue requiring only superficial changes but wants to position itself as the country's new sporting capital and is looking at a possible bid for the Olympic Games in 2016.

Three other venues will be constructed from scratch in Cape Town, Port Elizabeth and Nelspruit, the gateway to the country's fabled game parks. The World Cup will be hosted in 10 venues, two fewer than in Germany and more manageable, according to Fifa, who initially wanted just eight. The opening game and final will be at Soccer City in Johannesburg, which has a present capacity of 75,000 but will be upgraded to seat 92,000.

Existing rugby stadiums such as Ellis Park (Johannesburg), Loftus Versfeld (Pretoria), the Free State stadium (Bloemfontein) and the Peter Mokaba stadium (Polokwane) will be complemented by a football-only venue, the Royal Bafokeng Sports Palace near Sun City, which was built by one of the country's richest tribes, whose lands sit atop valuable deposits of platinum.

South Africa's mineral resources and efficient tax-collection system mean there is a war chest of considerable proportions for a major overhaul of infrastructure and facilities ahead of 2010. The government have ambitious projects akin to the Marshall Plan for Europe after the Second World War.

But the real triumph of a successful World Cup in 2010 will be the sense of entitlement that it will give a country not long ago regarded as one of the world's pariahs.

http://wc2006.telegraph.co.uk/Document.aspx?id=DC5E8AFD-3A79-4EB7-AA45-93B38179F9ED

Q: is there a south african team/squad in the world cup this 2010?
the hosts automatically have a place in the world cup.

First look at 2010 stadium John Yeld 10 July, 2006 Front Page

Capetonians are set to get their first glimpse of the design of the proposed 2010 soccer World Cup stadium in Green Point on Friday. This is when the draft environmental impact assessment (EIA) report is due to be released for public


Can't wait! Hope it's an absolute iconic beauty, Mo. That way we'll at have at least have 2 stunners hosting WC matches (Durbs and CT). Please post asap after release.

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Nice 1 Mo,

ah I c u got pics of the demolition, pitty I cant see the explosion tomorrow got meetings the whole day, & they all in Umhlanga!!!

Get ready for unveiling of 2010 stadium plans

By John Yeld

Capetonians are set to get their first glimpse of the design of the proposed 2010 soccer World Cup stadium in Green Point on Friday. This is when the draft environmental impact assessment (EIA) report is due to be released for public comment.

The potential visual impact of the planned stadium - which could be as high as 23 storeys - was identified from the outset as a key area requiring assessment. It forms one of the specialist studies in the EIA process, which is running slightly behind its tight schedule.

The final scoping report of the project - scoping is the first step in the EIA process and involves identifying the relevant issues - was released last week and does not include detailed drawings.

A second public meeting on the project, which had already been postponed by three weeks, has now been pushed back a further fortnight, to July 26.

'The business plan shows a positive outlook'
The joint city-province planning team overseeing the huge project has refused to release design details or an architect's impression of the stadium ahead of the interim EIA report.

Laurine Platzky, acting head of the province's Department of Sport and Culture, said on Friday: "It's got to go through the internal process first. We can't jeopardise this by releasing it now. It's not long to go."

She was speaking from Germany, where she was preparing to take part in Fifa's World Cup handing-over ceremony, from 2006 hosts Germany to 2010 hosts South Africa.

Carmen du Toit, of the environmental consulting company co-ordinating the EIA process, said last week that the intention was to release a draft EIA report, which must include a design of the stadium, by Friday, with a month-long public comment period.

The public meeting had been rescheduled for July 26, in the Sea Point civic centre.

"So far, it looks as though we can keep to those dates, but it's not easy."

At the end of last month, Premier Ebrahim Rasool and city mayor Helen Zille issued a joint statement after a presentation on planning aspects of the World Cup preparations for Cape Town.

The presentation included a business plan for operational costs and projected profits of the stadium.

"We are happy to announce that the business plan shows a positive outlook for the long-term viability of a new stadium," they said.

"Serious work is continuing on several possible sites for the proposed stadium, and by the end of July we will present a full assessment of the various options open to us."

The design and study phases for 2010 were on schedule and all deadlines would be met, Rasool and Zille said.

"We will, at all stages, work together to ensure that the planning for the hosting of a successful World Cup in the interests of Cape Town and the province."

# Copies of the final scoping report are available in the Sea Point, Camps Bay and central city libraries, and on the Environmental Partnership site, www.enviropartnership.co.za/.

Encouraging news. Thanks guys for expelling the jitters.

R3.5bn set for WC transport
Jul 10 2006 07:45:25:197PM

Johannesburg - The government has allocated R3.5bn for public transport infrastructure in preparation for the 2010 Soccer World Cup, SABC news reported on Monday.
It quoted acting transport director-general Jerry Makokoane as saying R700m of the total budget had been set aside for this financial year.

He said R241m had been allocated to municipalities that would be hosting 2010 World Cup matches.

Makokoane was addressing the Southern African Transport conference in Pretoria.

He said the infrastructure of airports would also be upgraded to ensure efficient and safe transportation for all visitors.

I hope they dont screw with you capetonians like how they screwd with us, " the design will be out on Tuesday" ....tuesday comes & go's no design........then a week later then unviel the freeken thing!

I hope they dont screw with you capetonians like how they screwd with us, " the design will be out on Tuesday" ....tuesday comes & go's no design........then a week later then unviel the freeken thing!well the design will be at a meeting on friday..which is part of the EIA process...its not the final design and its not the huge unveiling of the stadium...it will give people an idea of what they have been working on...will probably have a look at it tomorrow if im lucky

keep us up to date Mo. I think it will be an awsome world cup but I wish so much that the final was in cape town and not joburg!!!

keep us up to date Mo. I think it will be an awsome world cup but I wish so much that the final was in cape town and not joburg!!!
i think FIFA might be sticking with te joburg venue for 2010 but who knows...im just hoping cape town gets the opening and from what ive heard thats seems very possible.

There was an article in the Sun Tribune quoting the Durban mayor (I think) saying that Durbs has a very good chance of hosting the opening ceremony.

ohh nice to read about upgrades

Here's more news on the construction challenges ahead...

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Bring on the World Cup – we can do it
David Carte
Posted: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 08:00

TWO of the Big Three construction company chiefs are confident that their companies can deliver the airports, the roads and the stadia for the World Cup 2010.

Brian Bruce of Murray & Roberts and Mike Lomas of Group Five are extremely confident that the necessary infrastructure can be built on time. Carl Grim of Aveng is less sanguine, saying the companies need engineering designs and invitations to tender very soon in order to get done in time.

Murray & Roberts has reorganised its management structure to enable it to cope with the extra demands that the World Cup 2010 will make on it.

Director Sean Flanagan will be the man in charge of all World Cup projects. Keith Smith will run all SADC building and construction companies as chairman, Edwin Hewitt will oversee the engineering companies and Malose Chaba will run private sector industrial and minerals beneficiation.

M&R is already the lead contractor for the Gautrain and is hoping to land airport, road and stadium contracts.

CEO Brian Bruce told Moneyweb yesterday that the SA construction industry would be able to deliver all that is required by kick-off 2010.

He said M&R had deep experience with global projects and could find all the skills needed. He called for Home Affairs to partner with the industry to ensure the smooth importation of skills that could not be purchased here.

Carl Grim, CEO of Aveng, is less sanguine. He said it has been three years since SA won the World Cup bid and no tenders had yet been put out.

“It takes only 18 months to build a stadium for 40 000 spectators, provided it doesn’t have a roof. If you have to put a roof on, it pushes the construction time out towards four years, so we will have to move.”

Grim said all he had seen of the Durban stadium was an artist’s impression. It appeared to be a highly complex four-year task.

Fifa prefers to have covered stadia, even though the interior of SA is notoriously dry during the winter. Cape Town will have a completely covered pitch. Other new stadia are planned for Durban, Port Elizabeth, Nelspruit and possibly Polokwane. The Bafokeng stadium in North West Province is close to construction. A number of existing stadia will be upgraded, including FNB Soccer City, Ellis Park, Loftus Versfeld, and Vodacom Park in Bloemfontein.

Lomas said the industry could definitely handle five stadium refurbishments and five new stadia plus road and airport work inside the four-year period.

“As I understand it, the refurbs are unlikely to cost more than R100m to R200m and we do plenty of jobs of that size inside 18 months. We should be able to finish the new stadia in three years. You can also achieve a lot of roadwork in 18 months. And the airport extensions are already underway.”

Danny Jordaan CEO of the local organising committee has stressed that 350 experienced FIFA organisers will run the competition. They had vast experience and knew exactly what was needed. Jordaan says a good number of the 350, including people in senior positions, were South Africans and worked on the German World Cup.

T-Systems, a subsidiary of Deutsche Telekom, is advertising in SA for the supply of sophisticated electronic systems for the World Cup, having won the contract in Germany 2006. It supplies phone, TV, security and traffic controls systems, as well as global media communications. It offers pre-paid chip cards enabling spectators to pay for small items without cash. It has 1 000 employees in SA already.

Aveng’s Grim said foreign competitors would compete for work. They were always a threat and had already won the Coega harbour project and the Berg River Dam.

Meanwhile the Financial Times reports that Italian soccer fans are so delighted with their team’s victory they are suggesting everyone forget the match-fixing allegations at Juventus. As the Italian squad drove around in an open-topped bus absorbing the adoration of fans, shares of the soccer club leapt on Monday.

http://www.moneyweb.co.za/specials/soccer_world_cup/676591.htm

There was an article in the Sun Tribune quoting the Durban mayor (I think) saying that Durbs has a very good chance of hosting the opening ceremony.
of course durban has a good chance. your mayor also said you would bid for the 2014 commonwealth games right? even if it was too late...and even if south africa is officially supporting abuja...he likes to say lots of things.

The new ranking is out. Brazil keeps topspot with Italy moving into second:

1 Brazil 1630 0 803
2 Italy 1550 11 822
3 Argentina 1472 6 726
4 France 1462 4 713
5 England 1434 5 693
6 Netherlands 1322 -3 554
7 Spain 1309 -2 553
8 Portugal 1301 -1 551
9 Germany 1229 10 533
10 Czech Republic 1223 -8 451
11 Nigeria 1149 0 413
12 Cameroon 1109 3 387
13 Switzerland 1028 22 380
14 Uruguay 985 8 296
15 Ukraine 961 30 352
16 USA 933 -11 177
17 Denmark 927 -6 191
18 Mexico 924 -14 166
19 Paraguay 915 14 262
20 Côte d'Ivoire 909 12 240
21 Colombia 902 6 221
22 Sweden 886 -6 177
23 Croatia 854 0 168
24 Guinea 850 27 253
25 Ghana 839 23 239

FIFA were kind enough to give sout africa a ranking of 72 considering that we cant even play football. thanks fifa

12 Jul 2006 : Cape business is optimistic

BUSINESS in the Western Cape is positive about the 2010 World Cup and confident that Cape Town will be ready to play its part in making the tournament a great success.


Ms Janine Myburgh, President of the Chamber, said the confidence was born out of the fact that the city had most of the necessary accommodation and, as the country's top tourism city, it had the skills and know-how to handle the influx of visitors.


There were, however, two major challenges: The building of the stadium and providing a transport link between the Airport and the city.


She said most of the questions about the stadium would be answered within the next few months and then it would be up to the construction industry.


Ms Myburgh said that setting up a public transport link with the airport was something the city needed anyway and solving this problem would be one of the most important legacies of the World Cup.


“At present most tourists are either met by special hotel transport or they hire cars. This works reasonably well but one cannot expect all visitors to go to the expence of hiring cars. We can expect a huge influx of people who do not necessary understand the languages used in our road signs and who are used to driving on the other side of the road. They will also have to cope with some undisciplined local drivers."


In the absence a railway line, the best solution would be a regular quality bus service operating on dedicated bus lanes.


Cape Town was also fortunate in that it had gone through the process of bidding for the Olympic Games and many of the plans devised at the time could probably be adapted for the Word Cup. "We can supplement accommodation by bringing a few cruise liners into the harbour and perhaps even using them to move people to other venues like Port Elizabeth and Durban as the tournament progresses."


It was important to realise that the tournament would take place during the winter, the low season for tourism when maximum accommodation was available. This would help the hospitality industry extend the season and make many more tourism projects viable.


It was likely that many fans would base themselves in Cape Town and they would want to follow games taking place in other cities on big-screen TV in venues ranging from sports cafés to the convention centre and other halls or even sports grounds. "The World Cup will not just be about our new stadium but many other venues as well. This will create jobs and wonderful opportunities for both large and small businesses and I am confident that most people in the city will benefit," Ms Myburgh said.

I the BOOM today, it sounded like thunder, thought it would have been much louder, but I was with a client at the time so I couldnt run out to see the stand falling! dam

^^ dude i heard the boom from Durban North!!

regards the CT stadium...this design is not the final one then? just a prelim for EIA purposes???? when on earth do we get the proper one then????

^^ dude i heard the boom from Durban North!!

regards the CT stadium...this design is not the final one then? just a prelim for EIA purposes???? when on earth do we get the proper one then????
well it just has to go through the formalities...obviously peolpe will complain abuot height etc...so im sure they've pushed the height up to ensure that the reduction in height etc. wont be too damaging...dont expect a lightbulb allianz arena though.

Then perhaps a telstra dome on steriods?

Then perhaps a telstra dome on steriods?
i dont like the stadium. i hope they change the design after tomorrow. :(

U saw it?

U saw it?
i wish i hadnt.

lol, that bad?

lol, that bad?
i dont like it...

Nice and realistic article...

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2010 here we come

Lungile Madywabe: COMMENT

11 July 2006 02:00

It was inevitable. Long before the 2006 World Cup final, the Afro-pessimist brigade was already muttering dark warnings about 2010. Now comes the crescendo. We can almost feel the musty colonial breath in our faces, sputtering: “Crime! Disease! Civilisation! Give it to Australia!”

The most grotesque forms of this argument cannot be taken seriously. Fifa has already reiterated, unambiguously, that the world is coming to our shores in 2010. But it is worth talking about the challenges and what we need to accomplish as a nation over the next four years.

Estimates of Africa’s overall economic contribution to world football are tenuous, but there is general agreement that it hovers somewhere between the less-than-inspiring levels of zero and 1%. The continent’s biggest recognisable strength lies in its incredible human resources, calculated in terms of the number of players it exports to Europe.

As host of the 2010 World Cup, South Africa holds the cards and its economic influence in world football is bound to increase. The current monetary value of South African football is, according to informal calculations, approaching R600-million and it is believed that this figure will be well over R1-billion come 2010.

A drop in the ocean! But significantly this is among the reasons it was chosen to host 2010. The vote of confidence in our nation-in-becoming is a building block upon which our readiness and success should be measured.

In its latest annual report, South African Tourism records that the country hosted more than 7,3-million international visitors last year. There are more than 55 000 hotels, guesthouses and bed and breakfasts. SA Tourism spokesperson Tholoane Qhobela points out that a growing number of South Africans are investing in lodging establishments. This can only be good for economic growth and job creation.

So who says we can’t handle the fans pouring in from all corners of the globe?

Afro-pessimism looms large though in the minds of those who want to peddle stereotypes about the developing world -- this continent in particular -- as a boiling cauldron of HIV and crime. More-over, bleats RW Johnson, South Africa’s infrastructure is decaying and the traffic lights don’t work.

No one is pretending that massive social and economic challenges don’t exist. How could they not in the wake of slavery, colonialism and apartheid? But 2010 is an occasion for South Africa to explode a range of stereo-types about our continent -- and the myth that organising an event of World Cup magnitude is beyond our ability. It is also an opportunity to hasten economic development and boost African soccer.

While South Africa needs to approach the World Cup as a confident nation, we cannot afford to downplay the serious challenges ahead.

Although 2010 head Danny Jordaan notes that South Africa is well ahead in areas such as the finalising of host city and stadium contracts, others require serious attention, planning and investment. In many of these areas, such as stadium construction and public transport, we are surely lagging behind.

Government, business and civil society will need to pull together to make many of these things happen. Building stadiums, strengthening the communications network and improving the country’s general infrastructure is going to take serious work.

A host of foreign and South African companies will be queuing for 2010 projects. This presents enormous opportunities for new investment and job creation. Our local football industry employs about 10 000 people directly; the indirect figure is probably well over 100 000. The 2010 World Cup should act as a big multiplier.

Many of Africa’s critics talk about South Africa as if it is not part of this continent. They talk about our highways, hotels, shopping malls and other things they consider markers of our First World status (at least on the urban/suburban fringe). But South Africa is not Germany, they protest. Not even South Korea or Australia. How can South Africa ever hope to match the public transport systems of Berlin?

Short answer: it can’t and it won’t.

We need to relax about one thing. South Africa’s World Cup will have all the imperfections that go along with being a developing nation.

Finally, in the same way writer Ngugi wa Thiong’o exhorts the developing world not to shy away from borrowing English words to enrich our languages, persuasively arguing that the queen’s language owes a debt to many African and other languages, the continent should unashamedly use the 2010 opportunity to develop its administration of the game so that Africa can begin the process of levelling with Europe on the playing field.

Lungile Madywabe is the Mail & Guardian’s local soccer writer

http://www.mg.co.za/articlePage.aspx?articleid=276902&area=/insight/insight__comment_and_analysis/

C'mon, Mo. Spill the beans! Leak it, leak it. :)

Maybe you should come to Durbs so you can interact with our sexy stadium. :cool:

I'm sure the design can't be that bad though.

South Africa: Let's Transport Ourselves to 2010

Business Day (Johannesburg)

July 13, 2006
Posted to the web July 13, 2006

Paul Browning
Johannesburg

THE South African Transport Conference has been taking place this week at the Council for Scientific and Industrial Research in Pretoria. It has the theme: 2010 -- Will Transport Infrastructure and Systems be Ready? Engineers and planners have described the actions they have in mind. But it is disturbing that no one has talked about the actual operation of transport for World Cup visitors. Given current standards in SA's rail, bus and taxi services, this may well prove to be our Achilles heel.

At the conference, Mathabatha Mokonyama, deputy director-general of planning in the transport department, reminded the several hundred delegates that more than R3bn had been allocated for transport infrastructure improvements.

A series of talking heads from some of the host cities (Johannesburg, Durban, Port Elizabeth) popped up to show how they had already planned to spend R2bn of that. So the engineers seem to be getting their ducks in the proverbial row.

A consultant contracted by the department described the broad cast of the operational plan, indicating what kinds of movement could be expected, and how they might be met. Somewhat worryingly, he said that detailed operational plans would have to be developed by the end of this year. There was no indication from the host cities whether they would be able to achieve that but at least someone is driving the operational planning.

But when all the new infrastructure has been built on time and all the operational plans developed to the last detail, and the hordes of fans pour in from all around the world, their actual transport needs will have to be met by our present transport operators. Allowing for the "South African" dimension that we rightly intend to demonstrate, the visitors will expect services of a standard to which they are (largely) accustomed elsewhere in the world.

The signs are that, as least as far as urban transport is concerned, they will be gravely disappointed unless urgent action is taken to improve present methods of operation.

Let me take just one example from each of the three modes -- rail, bus and taxi.

Metrorail off-peak services generally run at times determined according to operational needs, such as track capacity and efficient use of rolling stock.

In many countries, suburban rail services outside the commuter peak offer even-interval services -- typically every hour or half-hour, at the same number of minutes past each hour. The need for operational efficiency is balanced against the need for service.

Bus services elsewhere provide intermediate timings -- that is, there are a number of stops on a route that have a specific time of departure from that point. I have examples from places as far apart as Augusta (Georgia, US) Bristol (England) and Sydney (Australia). They show bus routes with a trip time of 40-70 minutes, all of which have between five and seven intermediate times.

South African bus services operate on the principle that a service is scheduled to start from the terminal at a given time, and the driver then drives as fast as he can to get to the other end.

And the taxi... well, where do we start? Perhaps with the overall principle that the "midibus" taxi service is not managed -- it just operates. Investigators into the recent accident that took the lives of 13 teachers should have been able to ask for the vehicle maintenance records, the driver's personal file with details of any disciplinary offences, and so on. They did not do so, of course, because they and we all know that nothing remotely like that exists.

These are, of course, just examples, and they may be regarded as nit-picking. I believe they rather point to the fundamental fact that our urban public transport is simply not up to world standards.

It is not at all clear that the engineers and planners meeting in Pretoria recognise this deep-seated weakness. Or if they do, they certainly do not seem to regard it as a matter for any kind of urgent action. The problems can be dealt with nearer the time. The tools may be contracts, or possibly just the government-issued operating licence, which will stipulate certain standards that must be adhered to. But as the instances described above suggest, the operators may simply not be capable of achieving those standards.

What, then, should government do? As a start, it should recognise and accept that improving the standards of public transport operators is at least as important as any of the other initiatives now being put in hand. The strength of the chain lies in its weakest link. All the bus lanes and all the transport plans in the world will not in themselves ensure the provision of quality services.

The national government now owns Metrorail, and it is busy devolving responsibility to provinces. This should give the planning authorities at least a platform (no pun intended) from which to exert pressure on Metrorail management.

Almost all urban bus services are subsidised. He who pays the piper is usually in a position to call the tune. The accompanying ditty should be "let us find out about worldwide best practices, and adopt (and where necessary adapt) them".

The taxi industry should be encouraged and helped to cede management of taxi operations to a professional management company. Individuals would continue to own the vehicles, and would be paid a fee for the use of them. The management company would ensure that formal-sector standards of operation were maintained. Its costs could be met from the money government currently saves by not subsiding taxi services.

These three suggestions indicate the kind of action that will be necessary to bring our public transport up to even a basic level of acceptability by 2010. They will all be fraught with difficulty. The time to start is right now.

We are constantly told that the World Cup 2010 must be used to leave behind a permanent "legacy". In the case of transport, that should not merely be new road junctions and better access to football stadiums. It should be a greatly improved urban transport system for all South Africans.

Browning is adviser on transport policy to TransForum (the Association for Transformation in Transport).

http://allafrica.com/stories/200607130194.html

Stern warning for ambush marketers ahead of 2010

July 12, 2006, 17:15

Parliament's sports and recreation committee has been urged to take tough action against those who are not licensed sponsors for the expected money spinning 2010 World Cup event.

The World Cup is a major money spinner but the common practice commonly known as ambush marketing where an unofficial sponsor sneaks in through the backdoor to advertise at a sponsored function often threatens the hosting of a successful event. To prevent this regulating will be vital. Parliamentarians are hard at work dealing with these and other regulations that might impact on the World Cup.

For the next two weeks, stakeholders like big business and the health department will brief the committee. This is part of the reintroduced 2010 FIFA World Cup South Africa Special Measures Bill. Unlicensed products will not be allowed. Butana Khompela, the chairperson of the sport and recreation committee says they must design and respect FIFA regulations because it's a protected event and there must be a particular radius set up not to allow these products.

The committee also clarified the issue of name changes of stadia and which flags could be used. Khompela says they will recommend that stadium name changes should be temporary and flags like the Nazi or old South African flags be outlawed. Later this week Absa and Vodacom will give their views on the event and how it will impact on their business.

http://www.sabcnews.com/politics/government/0,2172,131089,00.html

Safa impatient as Bafana coach saga wears on

July 13 2006 at 04:14PM

By Vata Ngobeni

Johannesburg - The name of the man to take the South African senior soccer team to the 2010 World Cup will remain a secret for a few more weeks, as he does not exist.

South African Football Association (Safa) CEO Raymond Hack on Thursday admitted that they are yet to receive recommendations from the technical committee led by Sturu Pasiya.

This means that the name of the next Bafana Bafana coach is a long way from being announced as Safa still needs to negotiate with the technical committee's chosen man.

"We are getting impatient, probably more than the public out there. We are meeting with the technical committee tomorrow (Friday) where they will give us their final recommendations.

"It is then that the national executive will meet and discuss the recommendations which should take about a day or two. It is unlikely that we will announce the name of the coach soon as the national association has to engage the future coach," Hack said.

Hack confirmed that the Safa executive would be meeting next week to discuss the recommendations of the technical committee.

Safa and their technical committee's "walking on egg shells" veil of secrecy is understandable as the man who will be announced as coach will have to guide Bafana Bafana through the 2008 African Nations Cup in Ghana, the Confederations Cup in 2009 and the FIFA World Cup in 2010. - Sapa

2010 organising committee gets R468m injection
July 13, 2006, 18:30

South Africa's World Cup Organising Committee has received massive support from local business. MTN South Africa gave the committee R468 million.

This boost comes in the wake of recent allegations that South Africa's plans were already falling behind schedule.

The next step in getting a team ready for 2010 will take place tomorrow, with the announcement of the team coach. Local soccer officials seem to agree that the SA Football Association should go for a local man when they announce the new coach for Bafana Bafana.

Trott Moloto, a former Bafana Bafana coach, says although foreign coaches add new dimensions, it is imperative to have someone who understands South African soccer.

Germany 2006 leftovers donated to South Africa

German charity organisation gets 2010 ball rolling
2010 Soccer World Cup logo - Reuters

President Mbeki says he is proud of the new 2010 Soccer World Cup emblem
July 12, 2006, 14:45

The transfer of the Soccer World Cup from Germany to South Africa began in earnest today with the arrival of hundreds of soccer balls, shirts and eight tons of relief goods for South African children in need.

This is courtesy of the German-based organisation Aviation without Borders (Luftfahrt ohne Grenzen). Pupils from the state of Saarland in Germany have designed hundreds of soccer balls with South African motifs with the theme being "a time to make friends". The first recipients of the balls will be Sibonile, a home for blind and deaf children in Johannesburg. When blind children want to play soccer they wrap the ball in a plastic bag so they can hear the rolling ball and follow it.

The cargo also contains hundreds of soccer shirts, five goals and other soccer equipment. South African Airways have provided their assistance by flying the cargo from Frankfurt free of charge. Included in the cargo is an electric stove, an industrial dishwasher and other kitchen equipment for Sibonile, which will guarantee a daily hot meal for the 250 blind children. This equipment was donated by the Wahl Company, a manufacturer of industrial kitchens in Fulda, Germany.

Aviation Without Borders established the project in line with the spirit of 2010 FIFA Soccer World Cup. "SAA Cargo realises the value of investing in the community of South Africa and we eagerly accepted the request to bring them these soccer balls. We are especially delighted for the opportunity to make children happy," said Patrick Dlamini, the airline cargo general manager. Dlamini and Franke Frank, the vice-president of Aviation Without Borders, will hand the gifts over Sibonile principal Bafedi Moruthane. - Sapa

How the hell do they not have a coach as yet? they had sooo many weeks to decide, then they made that stupid statement that "they will choose a coach before the start of the 2006 WC, but will only reveal him after the 2006 WC is finished" but now the turds havent even chosen one, bunch of dickheads I tell you.

SA's poor will be able to watch 2010 games

By Baldwin Ndaba and Sapa

Poor South Africans with no access to television will be able to enjoy the 2010 World Cup like everybody else.

This is according to SABC chief executive Dali Mpofu who said on Thursday that the world soccer controlling body, Fifa, had awarded the broadcaster public viewing rights. This means the SABC will be allowed to put big screens in rural areas and in public places to ensure that even those who cannot afford a television set can join in the fun.

Mpofu was addressing the Johannesburg Press Club at the SABC offices in Auckland Park, Johannesburg.

He used the opportunity to criticise the print media.

'There is this hostility that I don't understand'
"There is this hostility that I don't understand. Why, I don't understand. The SABC winning the (broadcasting) rights of the 2010 World Cup is big for the country. I saw only a small article about it in one newspaper."

* This article was originally published on page 3 of The Star on July 14, 2006

Star

Published on the Web by IOL on 2006-07-14 08:54:00
© Independent Online 2005. All rights reserved. IOL publishes this article in good faith but is not liable for any loss or damage caused by reliance on the information it contains.

cape town stadium only to be revealed next saturday haha lets hope they can come up with something better in the meanwhile

This will be interesting: BEE vs FIFA - I think FIFA will win....

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Fifa: SA must be ready by 2009
13/07/2006 17:10 - (SA)

Johannesburg - Time is no longer a luxury for the South African local organising committee (LOC) for the 2010 Fifa World Cup as they only have three years left to ensure that South Africa is ready to host the World Cup.

Everything must be in place for the soccer showpiece by the 2009 Confederations Cup, warned Fifa marketing and television director Jerome Valcke.

"South Africa has to be ready by 2009 for the Confederations Cup. 2009 is tomorrow and we must start moving now. The LOC who were in Germany recently realise that it is a huge event," said Valcke at a function held at the Radio 702 studios which included some of the high profile members of the LOC, business and government.

Valcke also stated that South Africa was under obligation to follow in the footsteps of Germany and that it should host a World Cup uniquely South African.

But Valcke was quick to tender advise to South Africa to improve their transportation infrastructure, accommodation, security and communication as these are the basic necessities in hosting a World Cup.

"South Africa does not need to do the same as Germany. South Africa must have their own World Cup. There are a few things that have to be in place like the improvement of transportation, the availability of enough accommodation, adequate security for the millions of people that will be coming here and also the communication infrastructure for television and radio signals," said Valcke.

Valcke, though, does believe that South Africa is more than capable of hosting a successful World Cup as Fifa is confident that South Africa already has the bulk of the 10 stadiums in place and has tabled the nine host cities required to host the 64 matches.

Speculation has also been rife that government will be discussing incentives and exemptions on fulfilment of certain legislation concerning Black Economic Empowerment compliance for multinational and foreign companies who are affiliated with the Fifa World Cup.

Valcke quashed that speculation saying that most of the Fifa sponsors were companies already established in South Africa and that the South African government have signed an obligation agreement with Fifa which left them with no say on how foreign companies conduct their affairs during the staging of the World Cup.

"Most of the companies are already based here in South Africa. It is part of the obligation of the government not to interfere as they signed an agreement with us. Fifa is paying for the World Cup so we have the right to choose whichever companies we want. Even if companies are not compliant, they will be part of the World Cup. However it will not happen that a company goes against the government. After all this is a non-discussion," said Valcke.

http://www.news24.com/News24/Sport/Soccer/0,,2-9-840_1967477,00.html

cape town stadium only to be revealed next saturday haha lets hope they can come up with something better in the meanwhile
Told you they'll fuck with you.

Germans to design three of SA's 2010 stadiums

July 17 2006 at 11:48AM

Berlin - A Berlin firm said on Monday they have been awarded contracts to design three of the stadiums for the 2010 World Cup in South Africa.

Gerkan Marg and Partner said they will design the stadiums in Cape Town, Durban and Port Elizabeth.

The ground in Durban will be the biggest of the three with 85 000 seats.

"We plan to work with local architects on all three stadiums," the director of the company, Volkwin Marg, told Die Welt newspaper.

The company was responsible for the renovation of Berlin's Olympic Stadium, where the final of the 2006 World Cup was played on July 9.

In 2010, the tournament will be played in 10 stadiums in nine South African cities. It will be the first time the tournament will be held in Africa.

The final will be played in the Soccer City stadium outside Johannesburg.


http://iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=6...53127520520S163

Good article....

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Mass media faces tough challenges for 2010
By: Chris Moerdyk

Will South Africa's mass media look at the run-up to the 2010 World Cup slightly differently from any other major news events? Quite simply, their own prosperity or even survival will depend entirely on whether South Africa can not only stage a successful event in 2010 but can allay fears and subdue unnecessary criticism in the four years between now and then.

There is no doubt that this country has a lot at stake. Whether or not a successful event will lead to increased tourism, economic activity and foreign investment for decades beyond 2010 is now irrelevant. 2010 for us is a fait accompli. We cannot go back.

Economic disaster

Failure though, both in terms of a complete cock-up of the event itself or even worse, allowing the pessimists, criminals and critics to get so much of an upper hand that the event is moved away from us to some other country, will literally kill our economy stone dead and effectively destroy internal and external confidence in this country as effectively as a full scale civil war.

The mass media have an important role to play. Indeed they need to keep up the pressure on social ills such as crime, unemployment and corruption but surely they also need to be circumspect in not giving too big a platform to those 2010 pessimists in this country who have already started bitching about stadiums being too expensive, rotten transport infrastructures, crime and heaven knows what else.

German stone throwers

Looking back at world cup history, every country has had its minority anti-cup lobby.

In Germany, a few years ago, stories abounded of youths throwing stones from highway bridges and killing motorists right , left and centre on a far larger and more frightening scale than occurs down in the Western Cape right now.

In the run-up to the last Olympics the organisers in Greece came under extremely heavy fire from all and sundry internally and externally about not being ready. As it happened, they put on a fantastic event.

Like those countries, South Africa needs to make sure that the lunatic fringe does not derail even the tiniest item on the 2010 agenda.

Platform for pessimists

It is vital that our mass media does not look for short term readership, viewership and listenership ratings by allowing small bands of pessimists to get more of a platform than they deserve. 2010 is far too important and far bigger than short term newspaper sales and TV and radio ratings.

Freedom of speech does not mean freedom of access to media. Nor does it mean an obligation by the mass media to publish absolutely everything any idiot has to say. And the mass media believes it has the capacity to distinguish idiots from everyone else. Just look at the way they comment on politics for example - it's a dead giveaway.

Newspapers, TV and radio stations are set to make a bundle out of this world cup. Not only will they attract additional advertising and sponsorship revenue but also the interest of the consumer abroad who will tune in to our media online.

Lots to lose

Like the rest of society in South Africa, the mass media will have a lot to gain but everything to lose on the outcome of the 2010 event. The question of whether South Africa should be hosting it is no longer pertinent.

Mass media management needs to get involved with those who are doing the organising in terms of making media houses participants, rather than just the usual onlookers.

I am not suggesting for a minute that they compromise editorial integrity. But, what I am suggesting is that news editors think carefully before sensationalising or twisting stories just for a bit of short term one-upmanship over competitors.

For example, there was a TV report last week on the new billion rand stadium being built in Durban.

Putting words in mouths

The tone of the story was that the citizens of Durban thought it was far too expensive and a waste of money. Clearly those ordinary folk the reporter approached for the vox-pops interviews were asked, "Do you think that the new stadium is a waste of money?" This must have been the question because they almost all answered, "Yes, it does seem to be a waste of money..."

One-sided

Now, if the question they were asked was simply, "What do you think of the new stadium that is going to be built in Durban for 2010?" they would very likely have answered very differently and perhaps a lot more positively. Equally if hotel and restaurant owners and shopkeepers were interviewed, they would certainly not have believed the money to be a waste, given the difference between Durban hosting some 2010 games and not doing so.

As everyone knows, the responses one gets to voxpops depends very much on the question asked.

For some strange reason, there are people who really want to see South Africa's 2010 World Cup sabotaged. They are already manifesting themselves in some really bizarre websites, one of which has embarrassed e.tv by using its news footage illegally.

More than he deserved

Heaven knows what the agendas of these people are. Some care clearly simply anti-government, others just plain jealous, but there are many, like that fellow in Cape Town who wrote a letter to the editor of a local newspaper recently calling for a campaign to keep foreign tourists away from South Africa to force Government to do something about crime. Frankly by getting any publicity at all, he got more than he deserved.

The fact is that South Africa, rightly or wrongly, has been given the 2010 World Cup. Now, like it or not, the entire future of this country for decades to come, depends on our ability to pull it off. Whatever one's political convictions or whatever one's social beefs, if you happen to live in this country and want to continue doing so, it seems silly and suicidal to want to sabotage this whole thing.

And this applies as much to the mass media as it does to every single ordinary citizen. There is far too much to lose to indulge in petty sensationalism.

Ahead of Germany

South Africa has proved with both the cricket and rugby world cups that it is capable of organising this sort of event. Fine, 2010 is much, much bigger but there is no reason to doubt that FIFA and our local organising committee have not got their ducks in a row. In fact, in some areas South Africa is already ahead of where the German organisers were four years before the 2006 event.

One also needs to bear in mind that South Africa is not organising this thing alone. FIFA is playing a huge role and it obviously has a lot of experience. FIFA is also a very successful, profitable business before anything else and as a successful profitable business it is not in the habit of taking crazy risks. Successful businesses also don't have the habit of indulging in sentiment.

FIFA believes we can

FIFA would not have given South Africa the World Cup had it not believed that we could pull it off.

Everyone has a role to play in making this work and the best role the mass media can play is to think twice before giving the lunatic fringe more publicity than it deserves.

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Told you they'll fuck with you.
i knew they would...its the EIA people who cant get their report together in time...they are however doing a fantastic job

whats the EIA? i've seen it before, but whats does it stand for

Environmental Impact Assessment.

Oh i knew that, was just testing your'll :D

ok from what i read in the wknd papers, CT has to approve the EIA first, then the design team will start designing the stadium and that came from the mouth of the CT stadium comittee...so they havent even started designing the bugger?

ok from what i read in the wknd papers, CT has to approve the EIA first, then the design team will start designing the stadium and that came from the mouth of the CT stadium comittee...so they havent even started designing the bugger?
the concept is fairly detailed...perhaps the germans will fine tune things...

the concept is fairly detailed...perhaps the germans will fine tune things...

Ack! If what Mike said is true, what are they planning to unveil on Saturday then? The concept? Design? What's the difference between the two? The press has been saying that Capetonians will get their 1st glimpse of the proposed stadium at the unveiling so what does that mean?

Here's an update on CT...

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World Cup vision takes shape in Cape

July 18 2006 at 04:19PM

By Henri du Plessis, Philda Essop & Natalie Rosa Bucher

Cape Town's vision for staging its 2010 World Cup matches is starting to take shape, with top-level meetings and crucial decisions about a new stadium being rolled out from this week.

Tuesday night's match between the legendary Manchester United and Kaizer Chiefs at Newlands is being seen as a dry run to help determine transport and security needs for 2010 and show the city is capable of hosting international events.

Cape Town Mayor Helen Zille is meeting Danny Jordaan, head of the country's World Cup organising committee, in Johannesburg on Tuesday to discuss the results of a three-month planning and research programme and key decisions to be taken soon.

'The mayor has done her homework'
This follows a study by the DA-led city council of possible alternatives to Green Point for the site of the planned 68 000-seat African Renaissance Stadium, which will host a semi-final of the 2010 tournament.

The results of this study, as well as the draft environmental impact assessment report of the Green Point site - which will include the first plans of the stadium - are expected to be released later this week.

Zille met Premier Ebrahim Rasool on Monday to discuss details of the research of financial models and a business plan for the city's participation in the tournament, including the planning of the new stadium.

Today, Zille said decisions were to be taken soon but she wanted to discuss them with Jordaan first.

On Monday, Rasool said it was clear that Zille had "done her homework".

"The meeting was held in a positive spirit. However, before we make any announcements, we want to discuss matters with the South African Football Association.

"I got the idea that the mayor has done her homework and hope that we will eventually come to the decision that Green Point is the only viable location for the stadium ion Cape Town.

"I have emerged very confident from the meeting that Cape Town was ready to put the debate behind it and get back to work," Rasool said.

Zille said the city had put in a lot of hard work over the past three months.

"We are ready now to make the decisions," she said.

"Tonight's match is very small compared to the World Cup, but any event is a test in certain ways."

The match was a way of showing the world that the city could host an international event and would serve to highlight transport and security needs, Whitey Jacobs, MEC for Cultural Affairs and Sport, said on Tuesday.

Rasool said it was important to send out a signal to the world that the national and provincial governments as well as the City of Cape Town are all united behind the 2010 World Cup."

Speaking in the Table Bay Hotel at the V&A Waterfront, where he met the Manchester United team and representatives of the UN children's organisation Unicef, Rasool expressed confidence in South Africa's ability to host the event.

Top-flight club football tournaments and development programmes are among spinoffs Western Cape soccer fans can look forward to as the province prepares for the tournament, the province's department of cultural affairs and sport announced on Monday.

The province wants to emulate Germany by creating so-called fan parks with big screens in each of the province's six regions.

This is great news for fans who won't be able to afford tickets for matches in their own backyard.

A visit to Germany by MEC Jacobs and two of his senior officials during this year's World Cup had led to ties with Dutch and Portuguese football authorities, said Mxolisi Lindie, the department's new head.

At a conference on Monday, Lindie announced that regular top-flight football tournaments, involving the Western Cape's top teams, teams from the two European countries and possibly sides from Angola and Mozambique, would be held in the run-up to the 2010 event.

These tournaments would go hand in hand with soccer development in the poor areas of metropolitan Cape Town and in rural areas, Lindie said.

He declined to name the Portuguese and Dutch clubs set to be involved, saying final arrangements still had to be made.

Officials are now beginning to tackle the nightmare of providing adequate transport, and all agree a radical plan is needed.

Speaking at a workshop with key transport officials and delegates from the national department on Monday, Donald Cupido, the city's transport planning manager, said that to date, the city had received funds for the next three years.

These included R140-million for infrastructure, R20-million for non-motorised transport, R8-million for a metropolitan transport information call centre and R40-million to upgrade Cape Town's central station.

Funding secured for rail projects totals R220,69-million.

The plan envisages a shuttle service on Western Boulevard and Somerset Road during the World Cup, catering for cyclists, pedestrians and people with special needs.

For motorists, parking areas will be set up.

Areas under consideration are Culemborg and the Waterfront.

http://iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=6&click_id=4&art_id=vn20060718103602922C873814

Here's an update on CT...

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World Cup vision takes shape in Cape

July 18 2006 at 04:19PM

By Henri du Plessis, Philda Essop & Natalie Rosa Bucher

Cape Town's vision for staging its 2010 World Cup matches is starting to take shape, with top-level meetings and crucial decisions about a new stadium being rolled out from this week.

Tuesday night's match between the legendary Manchester United and Kaizer Chiefs at Newlands is being seen as a dry run to help determine transport and security needs for 2010 and show the city is capable of hosting international events.

Cape Town Mayor Helen Zille is meeting Danny Jordaan, head of the country's World Cup organising committee, in Johannesburg on Tuesday to discuss the results of a three-month planning and research programme and key decisions to be taken soon.

'The mayor has done her homework'
This follows a study by the DA-led city council of possible alternatives to Green Point for the site of the planned 68 000-seat African Renaissance Stadium, which will host a semi-final of the 2010 tournament.

The results of this study, as well as the draft environmental impact assessment report of the Green Point site - which will include the first plans of the stadium - are expected to be released later this week.

Zille met Premier Ebrahim Rasool on Monday to discuss details of the research of financial models and a business plan for the city's participation in the tournament, including the planning of the new stadium.

Today, Zille said decisions were to be taken soon but she wanted to discuss them with Jordaan first.

On Monday, Rasool said it was clear that Zille had "done her homework".

"The meeting was held in a positive spirit. However, before we make any announcements, we want to discuss matters with the South African Football Association.

"I got the idea that the mayor has done her homework and hope that we will eventually come to the decision that Green Point is the only viable location for the stadium ion Cape Town.

"I have emerged very confident from the meeting that Cape Town was ready to put the debate behind it and get back to work," Rasool said.

Zille said the city had put in a lot of hard work over the past three months.

"We are ready now to make the decisions," she said.

"Tonight's match is very small compared to the World Cup, but any event is a test in certain ways."

The match was a way of showing the world that the city could host an international event and would serve to highlight transport and security needs, Whitey Jacobs, MEC for Cultural Affairs and Sport, said on Tuesday.

Rasool said it was important to send out a signal to the world that the national and provincial governments as well as the City of Cape Town are all united behind the 2010 World Cup."

Speaking in the Table Bay Hotel at the V&A Waterfront, where he met the Manchester United team and representatives of the UN children's organisation Unicef, Rasool expressed confidence in South Africa's ability to host the event.

Top-flight club football tournaments and development programmes are among spinoffs Western Cape soccer fans can look forward to as the province prepares for the tournament, the province's department of cultural affairs and sport announced on Monday.

The province wants to emulate Germany by creating so-called fan parks with big screens in each of the province's six regions.

This is great news for fans who won't be able to afford tickets for matches in their own backyard.

A visit to Germany by MEC Jacobs and two of his senior officials during this year's World Cup had led to ties with Dutch and Portuguese football authorities, said Mxolisi Lindie, the department's new head.

At a conference on Monday, Lindie announced that regular top-flight football tournaments, involving the Western Cape's top teams, teams from the two European countries and possibly sides from Angola and Mozambique, would be held in the run-up to the 2010 event.

These tournaments would go hand in hand with soccer development in the poor areas of metropolitan Cape Town and in rural areas, Lindie said.

He declined to name the Portuguese and Dutch clubs set to be involved, saying final arrangements still had to be made.

Officials are now beginning to tackle the nightmare of providing adequate transport, and all agree a radical plan is needed.

Speaking at a workshop with key transport officials and delegates from the national department on Monday, Donald Cupido, the city's transport planning manager, said that to date, the city had received funds for the next three years.

These included R140-million for infrastructure, R20-million for non-motorised transport, R8-million for a metropolitan transport information call centre and R40-million to upgrade Cape Town's central station.

Funding secured for rail projects totals R220,69-million.

The plan envisages a shuttle service on Western Boulevard and Somerset Road during the World Cup, catering for cyclists, pedestrians and people with special needs.

For motorists, parking areas will be set up.

Areas under consideration are Culemborg and the Waterfront.

http://iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=6&click_id=4&art_id=vn20060718103602922C873814


hahah only 40 million to upgrade the station..thats the price of two homes in bishops court..what a joke.! newlands is sold out..as expected...gonna be awesome..dont think ill be able to take pics..

Ack! If what Mike said is true, what are they planning to unveil on Saturday then? The concept? Design? What's the difference between the two? The press has been saying that Capetonians will get their 1st glimpse of the proposed stadium at the unveiling so what does that mean?
they will see a visual...of the stadium...architects have definitely been working with a design...the germans will prob do the final details..im not sure..from what ive seen its a detailed stadium..(which sucks) but im not sure what they will show the public..

hahah only 40 million to upgrade the station..thats the price of two homes in bishops court..what a joke.! newlands is sold out..as expected...gonna be awesome..dont think ill be able to take pics..

Yes, those amounts do seem low.

I got great pics of the match in Durbs but haven't yet learnt (or tried) to post pics yet.

Re: Cape Town Train Station..that 40 million is just enough to retile the station and add like 5 trees ..wippeee i cant wait

Ellis Park to be taken over by football
July 18, 2006, 18:00

The Ellis Park precinct, South Africa's premier rugby venue, will now be taken over by football after a new management company, headed by Irvin Khosa (who is also the Orlando Pirates boss), took up the reigns.

The area includes Ellis Park stadium and swimming pool, Johannesburg Stadium, and the Standard Bank Arena. A Black Economic Empowerment company has acquired a 51% ownership of the precinct.

The new owners want to increase the venues value by building a skywalk, a sports museum and indoor entertainment facility. The new-look precinct is expected to be financially viable during and beyond 2010.

Initially Pirates wanted to buy Orlando Stadium, but the venue is now a heritage site. The club's offices will now be based at Ellis Park. The Buccaneers will continue alternating between Ellis Park and Johannesburg Stadium for their home matches.

The Lions will still play their matches at Ellis Park.

Yes, those amounts do seem low.

I got great pics of the match in Durbs but haven't yet learnt (or tried) to post pics yet.

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Thuram: SA on course for 2010
Nkareng Matshe
July 19 2006 at 10:30AM

Television images have projected him as one of soccer's strong-willed individuals, a warrior who's always determined to win.

Yet Lilian Thuram was calmness personified as he made a rare appearance on these shores on Tuesday.

The France defender's tiger-like expression - which we saw at the recently-concluded World Cup - was replaced with a serene, bespectacled look.

That he is faced with an uncertain future after his Italian club, Juventus, were relegated to Serie B for their match-fixing skulduggery did not seem to perturb him at all.

'I know Materazzi, he's very provocative'
Nor did he appear heartbroken after Les Bleus' defeat to Italy which robbed him of what would have been a second World Cup winners' medal.

Of course, that final on July 9 is best remembered for Zinedine Zidane's head-butt on Marco Materazzi, which earned the France talisman a red card, so what did Thuram make of this incident?


"I know Materazzi, he's very provocative. I've played against him in Italy (Materazzi plays for Serie A side Inter Milan) and he would swear at players and kick them.

"He's a very tough opponent," Thuram said.

Yet, while his dealings with Zidane span more than a decade of great dressing-room camaraderie, Thuram did not condone his national captain's behaviour, which came as a shock to most of his fans and teammates.

"Make no mistake, Zidane was wrong, but I know he was provoked by Materazzi."

Thuram is in South Africa as he was chosen by the French embassy as an ambassador for the International Sickle Cell Control Organisation, which seeks to create awareness about a disease called sickle cell anaemia.

It was not the defender's first visit here, though, having represented Les Bleus in their friendly international against Bafana Bafana six years ago at Ellis Park. He enjoyed the experience, he says, especially because he got to meet Nelson Mandela.

"I have a special interest in South Africa because of its history of the black struggle, and meeting Mandela was a highlight."

Although he will not be back here for the World Cup in 2010 (he's 34 and says he'll be retiring in two years' time), Thuram has warmed to this country and believes the soccer world will, like him, enjoy their stay here in four years' time.

"From what I've seen and heard, the (2010) organisers are way ahead of schedule and there should not be too many problems."

It was a positive endorsement from one of the game's most recognisable players, but France's most capped player did not spare African countries criticism for their continued underachievement at the World Cup.

"It seems they (African countries) lack self-belief," he observed.

"Look at Senegal in 2002, they looked like they were surprised to have reached the quarterfinals in spite of having a great squad.

"You've got to have confidence to win the World Cup. African countries have individual stars but are lacking as a collective. Greece won Euro 2004 without a star in their side. They had the belief and confidence."

The future of most Juventus players has been a subject of speculation after their club were demoted from Serie A last week by a sporting tribunal, and Thuram has already been linked with top clubs.

Barcelona, the Spanish and European champions, are reportedly close to signing him.

"It's still early to decide where I'm going," he said. "I'm taking it easy."

Some of his opponents would say: if only he was that simple on the pitch.

2010 plans in turmoil as top Bay official resigns

By Max Matavire Metro Editor

PREPARATIONS for the 2010 Soccer World Cup in Nelson Mandela Bay have been thrown into turmoil with the resignation of a senior municipal official tasked with co-ordinating the city‘s planning for the event.

Mbulelo Gidane, the chairman of a municipal task team formed to coordinate and expedite the processes leading up to 2010, handed in his resignation to acting municipal manager Vuyo Zitumane on Monday.

His resignation comes a week after he returned from attending the 2006 Soccer World Cup in Germany.

He attended the event with newly elected Mayor Nondumiso Maphazi and Zitumane on a fact-finding mission, and was due to apply what he learnt to Mandela Bay‘s plans.

Gidane, who was also the municipal business unit manager for recreation and culture, yesterday implied that he had resigned because he did not want to work with Maphazi.

“It‘s a personal matter – the time has come for me to leave,” Gidane told The Herald.

“I wanted to leave during the change of government (after the appointment of Maphazi in March), but I had to stay on for the sake of a smooth transition.”

He denied he had been put under pressure to resign, saying: “I have made up my mind and I think it‘s time for me to go.”

Maphazi said from East London last night that she would get a formal briefing on Gidane‘s resignation from Zitumane today.

The mayor said it was “disappointing” that Gidane had accepted the trip to Germany knowing that he would be resigning.

“Everyone will be disappointed. This was his second trip to Germany.”

But the mayor moved to allay concerns about possible setbacks in the planning for 2010. “There is a consortium in place that deals with the complex issues on the ground and that reported to Gidane and other relevant senior managers,” she said.

Dubbed “Git Done” by some colleagues because of his hands-on approach, Gidane chaired a municipal inter-business units task team comprising safety and security, communications, infrastructure and engineering, tourism and transport. It was working closely with the 2010 Soccer World Cup local organising committee to prepare for the tournament.

His resignation has fuelled earlier concerns by some that the city is not moving fast enough in its preparations for the World Cup – specifically on the construction of the new stadium, which is supposed to be completed by 2008.

Gidane has made several presentations to politicians and corporations outlining the 2010 local organising committee‘s business plan for the tournament, and its preparedness.

Sources said yesterday it would be a drawback having to find someone new to take over from Gidane. Safa EP expressed “shock” at the resignation.

The soccer body‘s public relations officer, Boya Chetty, said: “This is shocking news. He was there, very busy with the preparations for the 2010 World Cup and the stadium to make sure we get a few games here.

“It is sad that at a time when Safa EP and the municipality are working together very closely to see the successful hosting of the prestigious tournament, a vital cog in the wheel falls off.” Zitumane yesterday confirmed receipt of Gidane‘s resignation, but said the municipality had not yet accepted his resignation.

“I was out of town yesterday (Monday) on council business and the letter was left at my office. I only saw it today (Tuesday),” she said.

“We have not accepted his resignation as there are certain issues regarding his notice which we must discuss first. I have called for an urgent meeting with him.”

Zitumane said she was trying to “track down” Gidane, but could not reach him.

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Ellis Park 2010,
thanx for pic Mo

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/amgosai/ellispark2010Medium.jpg

I drove past it about 2 weeks ago. I could be wrong but it seems to be in the heart of Jeppestown, where that horrible shoot-out with police took place not so long ago. They really need to spruce that part of town up, big time. Aside from safety, lots of neglected and run-down buildings there.

the big problem with ellis park has always been getting there!! and atmosphere in the surrounding area which is sadly lacking. the one time i have been there to watch a sharks - lions game i almost gave up cos u have to park so far away and bus urself in. hopefully they will come up with innovative ways to sort this out for 2010

the big problem with ellis park has always been getting there!! and atmosphere in the surrounding area which is sadly lacking. the one time i have been there to watch a sharks - lions game i almost gave up cos u have to park so far away and bus urself in. hopefully they will come up with innovative ways to sort this out for 2010
They have planned to change this area for a few years now, hopefully bringing some new life to the area, but nothing seems to be happening...it can be very "quiet" at times having played tennis at the ellis park tennis facility, and some of the robots in the area are not the safest place to want to stop for a red light.

Greenpoint gets the GREEN light'Greenpoint only feasible venue for 2010'

July 20 2006 at 12:08PM

The Cape Town City council has endorsed Greenpoint stadium as the only feasible city venue to host a semifinal match for the 2010 Soccer World Cup.

This emerged from an analysis of six possible venues, the council's executive director of transport Mike Marsden said on Thursday.

He said Greenpoint posed the lowest risk with regard to affordability, long-term sustainability and time constraints.

Close contender Culemborg was a lost opportunity as there was insufficient time to resolve issues around land acquisition.

Newlands did not meet the 68 000-seat requirement for hosting a semifinal.

Winfield, Blue Downs and Athlone should not be considered as host venues at all, a consortium of consultants has found. - Sapa

The R4 billion STADIUM??
CAPE TOWN
Zille presses govt for 2010 funding

Thu, 20 Jul 2006

The Cape Town city council will prepare for Green Point to host a 2010 Soccer World Cup semi-final match in the hope that the national government will deliver on its financial promises.

"We accept in good faith the national government's commitment to these costs, but we need to know for sure before we sign the final contracts," mayor Helen Zille said on Thursday.

"We cannot sign contracts unless we are 100 percent sure, otherwise we will end up with the bath water and not the baby."

Zille said a "significant upward revision" was needed to the cost estimations. National government allocations for the project had to be known by November.

The council could afford to spend no more than R400-million, with a new 68 000 seater stadium for Green Point estimated to require some R4.3 billion.

The rest of the money would have to come from the national government or world soccer body Fifa. Fifa has decided on Cape Town and Durban as the host cities for the 2010 semi-final matches.

Zille said she had met deputy finance minister Jabu Moleketi, who had assured her "we are on the same page on the costs".

If a shortfall arose, alternative funding would have to be sought, failing which the city would lobby to be allowed to host the semi-final at the smaller Newlands stadium.

The design of a stadium for Green Point would, in the meantime, proceed without delay, Zille said. Construction was to start in January next year.

A study commissioned by the council has found Green Point to be the only feasible city venue for hosting a world cup semi-final.

An analysis of six possible venues revealed that Green Point posed the lowest risk on an overall balance of affordability, long-term sustainability and time constraints.

Infrastructure needs upgrading

Culemborg was a close contender, but there was not enough time to resolve issues around land acquisition, said the council's executive director of transport Mike Marsden.

Land earmarked for the Culemborg stadium was owned by Transnet and the national government, with plans to sell it at market value to cover recapitalisation costs.

"This pushes the site beyond all levels of affordability," said Zille.

Marsden said Culemborg would have been the best site for "positioning the city for future economic development".

The existing Newlands stadium, in turn, did not meet the 68 000-seat requirement for hosting a semi-final.

But Zille said world soccer body Fifa would be urged to consider accepting a 55 000-seater stadium, in which case Newlands remained an option. "It would make it so much more affordable."

Wingfield, Blue Downs and Athlone should not be considered as host venues at all, the study by private consultants and council experts has found.

Compared to the R4.3 billion for Green Point, estimated costs for semi-final stadia at the other venues ranged from R1.79 billion for a revamped Newlands, to R4.49 billion for Blue Downs.

Another R900-million would have to be invested in transport infrastructure to and from Green Point.

Marsden warned that sustaining a 68 000-seater stadium after 2010 would be "extremely challenging".

Newlands, with 55 000 seats, attracts no more than 48 000 spectators for a match between the New Zealand All Blacks and "a competitive South African side".

For the Green Point stadium to remain financially viable, provincial rugby and soccer bodies would have to work out a full calendar of sporting and concert events.

Cape Town was also bidding to host the world cup opening event and a semi-final match.

Sapa

The R4 Billion stadium cont...

The city's planned state-of-the-art, 68 000-seater African Renaissance Stadium for the 2010 World Cup will cost R4.18-billion to build. And even a basic, no-frills version of the Green Point structure would cost R3,3-billion-plus - more than double the original estimate.


The investigation's main conclusions

# Green Point is the only feasible venue for a 68 000-seater semi-final, given the time constraints, although there are serious risks and concerns which will have to be managed. Concerns relate primarily to affordability, sustainability and time.

# An upgraded Newlands rugby ground with a maximum capacity of 55 000 does not meet Fifa requirements for a semi-final at this stage, but must be retained as a fall-back venue for a possible semi-final in combination with off-site viewing venues.

# Culemborg would have been the best site from the perspective of positioning the city for future economic development, but insufficient time remains to resolve the issues surrounding land acquisition and other risks. "Culemborg in this regard is a lost opportunity."

# Wingfield, Blue Downs and Athlone should not be considered further as possible semi-final venues, given the time constraints and the results of the comparative analysis.

# Newlands and Athlone offer existing stadiums which can host quarter-final matches - the Fifa requirement is 48 000 seats.

# "Sustainability of a 68 000-seater semi-final venue post-2010 will be extremely challenging," the report states.

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The rest of the money would have to come from the national government or world soccer body Fifa. Fifa has decided on Cape Town and Durban as the host cities for the 2010 semifinal matches."

flip 4billion, thats ALOT

flip 4billion, thats ALOT
yes it is...seems like durban and cape town want government to start paying for these stadia...only wish they could spend more than a meazzzzly R40 million on the cape town train station..

'Jordaan wants foreigner to coach Bafana'

July 20 2006 at 05:08PM

By Vata Ngobeni

Jomo Sono has all but given up any ambitions of coaching Bafana Bafana when South Africa hosts the 2010 World Cup, claiming that Local Organising Committee chief executive Danny Jordaan wants a foreign coach at the helm.

Sono was interviewed last month by the South African Football Association (Safa) technical committee tasked with recommending a coach for the national team for the 2008 African Nations Cup, 2009 Confederations Cup and the 2010 Fifa World Cup.

However, he has yet to receive any further correspondence from Safa, he said, adding that his chances of being the man of choice for 2010 had all but disappeared because of Jordaan's preference for a foreign coach.


'Danny Jordaan... will decide who will be the coach'
"They (Safa) haven't spoken to me. The major player there is Danny Jordaan, he is the one who will decide who will be the coach.

"We hear rumours that he is the one who has been bringing in these foreign coaches into the country. I think he is the one who is going to make the decision," said Sono.

Former Ajax Cape Town coach Gordon Igesund is the only other South African Safa was interested in interviewing for the job.

Sono sees no evil in trying out a marriage between himself and Igesund as joint coaches of the national team.

"I will cross that bridge when I get there. I'm sure Gordon will want to assess me because we have never worked together.

"If it is the case that both of us are there then we have to find a way to work together. You don't want to get into a marriage and in the middle of it want to get out.

"But I doubt it will happen because Danny loves foreign coaches, these Fifa-accredited coaches like the Carlos Queiroz's of this world," Sono said.

He asked whether there was a deeper conspiracy behind Jordaan's mot wanting a South African coach.

"You find that when it suits them and they want money from these white companies they talk of Black Economic Empowerment but when it comes to soccer they don't talk BEE," he said.

Sono might well be correct in believing the next man in the Bafana Bafana hot seat will be a foreigner.

Carlos Alberto Parreira resigned as coach of Brazil on Wednesday.

Parreira revealed to Brazilian newspaper Estado de Sao Paulo that he expected to be named as the new Bafana Bafana coach and that he would take over his duties at the beginning of next year.

Safa reportedly approached Parreira before the World Cup, offering him more than R1-million a month.

Sono has begged Safa to listen to the recommendations of the new coach - whoever that may be.

"I hope they get a coach and listen to his recommendations. Whoever the coach is we wish him the best of luck and we will support him spiritually because we want there best for our country.

"Hopefully when he comes here he is not looking at stealing the money like some of them. I hope that Danny can recommend a good coach for the country, this time," Sono said.

Safa received the list of recommended coaches from the technical committee last week.

Its final decision on who will eventually coach Bafana is to be known in the coming weeks. - Sapa

'Jordaan wants foreigner to coach Bafana'

July 20 2006 at 05:08PM

By Vata Ngobeni

Jomo Sono has all but given up any ambitions of coaching Bafana Bafana when South Africa hosts the 2010 World Cup, claiming that Local Organising Committee chief executive Danny Jordaan wants a foreign coach at the helm.

Sono was interviewed last month by the South African Football Association (Safa) technical committee tasked with recommending a coach for the national team for the 2008 African Nations Cup, 2009 Confederations Cup and the 2010 Fifa World Cup.

However, he has yet to receive any further correspondence from Safa, he said, adding that his chances of being the man of choice for 2010 had all but disappeared because of Jordaan's preference for a foreign coach.


'Danny Jordaan... will decide who will be the coach'
"They (Safa) haven't spoken to me. The major player there is Danny Jordaan, he is the one who will decide who will be the coach.

"We hear rumours that he is the one who has been bringing in these foreign coaches into the country. I think he is the one who is going to make the decision," said Sono.

Former Ajax Cape Town coach Gordon Igesund is the only other South African Safa was interested in interviewing for the job.

Sono sees no evil in trying out a marriage between himself and Igesund as joint coaches of the national team.

"I will cross that bridge when I get there. I'm sure Gordon will want to assess me because we have never worked together.

"If it is the case that both of us are there then we have to find a way to work together. You don't want to get into a marriage and in the middle of it want to get out.

"But I doubt it will happen because Danny loves foreign coaches, these Fifa-accredited coaches like the Carlos Queiroz's of this world," Sono said.

He asked whether there was a deeper conspiracy behind Jordaan's mot wanting a South African coach.

"You find that when it suits them and they want money from these white companies they talk of Black Economic Empowerment but when it comes to soccer they don't talk BEE," he said.

Sono might well be correct in believing the next man in the Bafana Bafana hot seat will be a foreigner.

Carlos Alberto Parreira resigned as coach of Brazil on Wednesday.

Parreira revealed to Brazilian newspaper Estado de Sao Paulo that he expected to be named as the new Bafana Bafana coach and that he would take over his duties at the beginning of next year.

Safa reportedly approached Parreira before the World Cup, offering him more than R1-million a month.

Sono has begged Safa to listen to the recommendations of the new coach - whoever that may be.

"I hope they get a coach and listen to his recommendations. Whoever the coach is we wish him the best of luck and we will support him spiritually because we want there best for our country.

"Hopefully when he comes here he is not looking at stealing the money like some of them. I hope that Danny can recommend a good coach for the country, this time," Sono said.

Safa received the list of recommended coaches from the technical committee last week.

Its final decision on who will eventually coach Bafana is to be known in the coming weeks. - Sapa

Fan parks, big screens to cater for those without tickets in 2010

Special parks are being planned for Western Cape soccer supporters unable to gain entry to stadiums during the 2010 Soccer World Cup, the provincial department of cultural affairs and sport announced on Monday.

Following a fact finding mission to Germany, the department said it was impressed by that country's "fan parks" concept during this year's tournament where hundreds of thousands of supporters enjoyed entertainment before and after matches, which were televised on big screens.

"Sites have not yet been determined but there will be at least six fan parks in the province and we will engage municipalities regarding logistical arrangements," head of department Mxolisi Lindie said.

He said that during the month-long tournament mobile food and beverage stalls at parks would provide employment and income opportunities for local small business operators.

"We regard the parks' establishment as an alternative for watching games at stadiums and will offer marketing and branding for the corporate sector. It will be a great opportunity to create employment and alleviate poverty for people in the Western Cape," he said.

The department also visited Portugal and the Netherlands to explore club level football development there and form partnerships to transfer football skills.

Lindie said the local soccer fraternity had been briefed and that at least five Western Cape clubs, still to be identified, will be twinned with clubs in the Netherlands.

He also said two top Portuguese clubs have agreed to visit and play in the Western Cape club tournaments next year. - Staff Writer

Parreira expects Bafana coaching job

July 20 2006 at 03:32PM

Rio de Janeiro - Former Brazil coach Carlos Alberto Parreira said in an interview published on Thursday that he expects to be named as new coach of South Africa, hosts of the 2010 World Cup.

The 63-year-old made the revelation to Thursday's Estado de Sao Paulo newspaper, a day after he resigned from his post with the Selecao.

Brazil had a disappointing World Cup campaign in Germany, going out at the quarterfinal stage to France despite starting the tournament as favourites. - Sapa-dpa

Woah! These are friggin' HUGE costs!!!! I can see why the mayor (and so many residents) are reluctant on Greenpoint. All SA taxpayers, and not just Capetonians will have to foot the bill.

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Finance depending, Green Point set for 2010 semifinal

Mariette le Roux | Cape Town, South Africa

20 July 2006 02:17

The Cape Town city council will prepare for Green Point to host a 2010 Soccer World Cup semifinal match in the hope that the national government will deliver on its financial promises.

"We accept in good faith the national government's commitment to these costs, but we need to know for sure before we sign the final contracts," mayor Helen Zille said on Thursday.

"We cannot sign contracts unless we are 100% sure, otherwise we will end up with the bath water and not the baby."

Zille said a "significant upward revision" is needed to the cost estimations. National government allocations for the project have to be known by November.

The council can afford to spend no more than R400-million, with a new 68 000-seater stadium for Green Point estimated to require about R4,3-billion.

The rest of the money would have to come from the national government or world soccer body Fifa. Fifa has decided on Cape Town and Durban as the host cities for the 2010 semifinal matches.

Zille said she had met Deputy Minister of Finance Jabu Moleketi, who had assured her "we are on the same page on the costs".

If a shortfall arose, alternative funding would have to be sought, failing which the city would lobby to be allowed to host the semifinal at the smaller Newlands stadium.

The design of a stadium for Green Point would, in the meantime, proceed without delay, Zille said. Construction is to start in January next year.

A study commissioned by the council has found Green Point to be the only feasible city venue for hosting a world cup semifinal.

An analysis of six possible venues revealed that Green Point posed the lowest risk on an overall balance of affordability, long-term sustainability and time constraints.

Culemborg was a close contender, but there was not enough time to resolve issues around land acquisition, said the council's executive director of transport Mike Marsden.

Land earmarked for the Culemborg stadium was owned by Transnet and the national government, with plans to sell it at market value to cover recapitalisation costs.

"This pushes the site beyond all levels of affordability," said Zille.

Marsden said Culemborg would have been the best site for "positioning the city for future economic development".

The existing Newlands stadium, in turn, did not meet the 68 000-seat requirement for hosting a semifinal.

But Zille said world soccer body Fifa will be urged to consider accepting a 55 000-seater stadium, in which case Newlands remains an option. "It would make it so much more affordable."

Wingfield, Blue Downs and Athlone should not be considered as host venues at all, the study by private consultants and council experts has found.

Compared with the R4,3-billion for Green Point, estimated costs for semifinal stadia at the other venues ranged from R1,79-billion for a revamped Newlands, to R4,49-billion for Blue Downs.

Another R900-million will have to be invested in transport infrastructure to and from Green Point.

Marsden warned that sustaining a 68 000-seater stadium after 2010 would be "extremely challenging".

Newlands, with 55 000 seats, attracts no more than 48 000 spectators for a match between the New Zealand All Blacks and "a competitive South African side".

For the Green Point stadium to remain financially viable, provincial rugby and soccer bodies will have to work out a full calendar of sporting and concert events.

Cape Town is also bidding to host the World Cup opening event and a quarterfinal match. -- Sapa

http://www.mg.co.za/articlepage.aspx?area=/breaking_news/breaking_news__national/&articleid=278182

Woah! These are friggin' HUGE costs!!!! I can see why the mayor (and so many residents) are reluctant on Greenpoint. All SA taxpayers, and not just Capetonians will have to foot the bill.

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Finance depending, Green Point set for 2010 semifinal

Mariette le Roux | Cape Town, South Africa

20 July 2006 02:17

The Cape Town city council will prepare for Green Point to host a 2010 Soccer World Cup semifinal match in the hope that the national government will deliver on its financial promises.

"We accept in good faith the national government's commitment to these costs, but we need to know for sure before we sign the final contracts," mayor Helen Zille said on Thursday.

"We cannot sign contracts unless we are 100% sure, otherwise we will end up with the bath water and not the baby."

Zille said a "significant upward revision" is needed to the cost estimations. National government allocations for the project have to be known by November.

The council can afford to spend no more than R400-million, with a new 68 000-seater stadium for Green Point estimated to require about R4,3-billion.

The rest of the money would have to come from the national government or world soccer body Fifa. Fifa has decided on Cape Town and Durban as the host cities for the 2010 semifinal matches.

Zille said she had met Deputy Minister of Finance Jabu Moleketi, who had assured her "we are on the same page on the costs".

If a shortfall arose, alternative funding would have to be sought, failing which the city would lobby to be allowed to host the semifinal at the smaller Newlands stadium.

The design of a stadium for Green Point would, in the meantime, proceed without delay, Zille said. Construction is to start in January next year.

A study commissioned by the council has found Green Point to be the only feasible city venue for hosting a world cup semifinal.

An analysis of six possible venues revealed that Green Point posed the lowest risk on an overall balance of affordability, long-term sustainability and time constraints.

Culemborg was a close contender, but there was not enough time to resolve issues around land acquisition, said the council's executive director of transport Mike Marsden.

Land earmarked for the Culemborg stadium was owned by Transnet and the national government, with plans to sell it at market value to cover recapitalisation costs.

"This pushes the site beyond all levels of affordability," said Zille.

Marsden said Culemborg would have been the best site for "positioning the city for future economic development".

The existing Newlands stadium, in turn, did not meet the 68 000-seat requirement for hosting a semifinal.

But Zille said world soccer body Fifa will be urged to consider accepting a 55 000-seater stadium, in which case Newlands remains an option. "It would make it so much more affordable."

Wingfield, Blue Downs and Athlone should not be considered as host venues at all, the study by private consultants and council experts has found.

Compared with the R4,3-billion for Green Point, estimated costs for semifinal stadia at the other venues ranged from R1,79-billion for a revamped Newlands, to R4,49-billion for Blue Downs.

Another R900-million will have to be invested in transport infrastructure to and from Green Point.

Marsden warned that sustaining a 68 000-seater stadium after 2010 would be "extremely challenging".

Newlands, with 55 000 seats, attracts no more than 48 000 spectators for a match between the New Zealand All Blacks and "a competitive South African side".

For the Green Point stadium to remain financially viable, provincial rugby and soccer bodies will have to work out a full calendar of sporting and concert events.

Cape Town is also bidding to host the World Cup opening event and a quarterfinal match. -- Sapa

http://www.mg.co.za/articlepage.aspx?area=/breaking_news/breaking_news__national/&articleid=278182

this article can be found below

Apologies for the double-post. Didn't see those posts as I just jumped to the last page of the thread.

I am still in shock. Even a no-frills stadium will cost over R3 billion! Shit that's a lot of money! What will an 'iconic' stadium cost? And that's excluding supporting infrastructure like roads, transport, etc, etc, which will cost well over a R1 b.

As much as I would love to see a stunning iconic stadium in Greenpoint because of the fab location (proximity and stunning backdrop) it makes more economic sense in the long run to upgrade Newlands and convince FIFA of the merits of relaxing its stadium rule. I can just imagine the critics, who will rightly point out that the govt hasn't even spent over R4 billion on housing in the W Cape to date but is willing to invest this much on just one stadium. Surely ALL of us throughout SA as taxpayers can't be investing so much just to please FIFA? I would feel the same if the new stadium in Durban was going to cost in that ballpark.

Even using the new proposed Greenpoint stadium for soccer, rugby and all concerts over the next 15 years will never be able to recoup R4 b. And of course these costs are estimates. As is common with construction, costs will mount and mount, and by 2010 it will hit R5 b. And that's excluding maintenance costs. Surely that's not a good legacy for future generations of taxpayers?

Mo, what's your views on this shocking development?

these costs are scaring me...makes me think...either they lying to us about the Durban stadiums costs...or CT is wasting a shitload of money

these costs are scaring me...makes me think...either they lying to us about the Durban stadiums costs...or CT is wasting a shitload of money

I agree. I hope the Durban authorities have their facts and figures straight or even I will be an outspoken critic if the proposed Senzan stadium will cost the whole country R4 b. That's just too much for any *ONE* stadium, regardless of where in the country it is. Then it will definitely make economic sense to upgrade ABSA stadium for a fraction of that cost.

To be fair, though, the DBN authories have been planning the Senzan stadium for years. Moreover, there's less supporting infrastructure upgrades to do than in CT as most of it already exists. The Durbs figure should therefore (and hopefully) be far less.

^^ i do agree with u there jerome. They have been planning this for many many years, so i wld think they know what they doing. dont forget that CT also want a closing roof on theirs..that will add alot to the cost anyway

^^ i do agree with u there jerome. They have been planning this for many many years, so i wld think they know what they doing. dont forget that CT also want a closing roof on theirs..that will add alot to the cost anyway

In reality the stadium was never going to cost R1.2 billion, especially considering the retractable roof which itself just costs R800 million. Hence the no frills version being about R3.2 bn. I don't think its too excessive when you consider the price of a basic stadium elsewhere in the world eventhough our costs etc. are much lower. The estimate could actually be spot on or slightly over the actual price, maybe it takes into account the possible delays, inflation, increasing price of steel and so forth. The design along with materials they plan to use to build the stadium could be of a high quality instead of what is the cheapest. The stadium is also supposed to be environmentally sustainable and in trying to meet certain environmental standards a cost of R4 billion might not be too excessive.


What I do suggest is government agreeing to provide more funding to both stadia. Both cities have done there bit to ensure that the stadia will become a reality but its government and FIFA who have been pressing for the new stadia. I doubt the Senz stadium will cost less than R2 billion, but we'll have to see how it goes. The Cape Town stadium does not take into account the budget for planned transport infrastructure and other improvements. I think what it might include is the conversion of the Greenpoint Area into a urban and recreation park.

I doubt Cape Town is just wasting a whole lot of money to show off, because IMO the design does not warrant that kind of money. What i do think is possible is that they are being absolutely honest about the cost of the stadium. Not waiting for 2008 and then announcing that the stadium might cost more than what was anticipated. I think the stadium should only cost about R3.5 billion including the new roof. I suppose we can just wait and see from finance reports and studies how a figure of R4 billion + is justified.

Helen Zille certainly hasn't exploded regarding the cost, so they must have produced an excellent presentation to convince her that the R4 billion is in fact what would be needed. With regards to Newlands. No I don't think its the better option and NO i dont think absa stadium is the better option either for durban. Every great city needs to take risks, sometimes its risks not everyone agrees on...but south african cities have been conservative for way too long not only in terms of architecture but in terms of implementing bold plans. The Gautrain being another larger project which has come under fire. Newlands is the boring option which would require major infrastrucutre improvements leading to the stadium...a traffic nightmare would be unavoidable. Apparently its possible to increase the newlands capacity to 68,000 but not without the local residents complaining about new seating hovering over their homes.

In terms of recovering the R4 billion cost, lets hope that private investors come on board and perhaps buy the stadium, perhaps an "Allianz Arena?? in the making?.. I think a new stadium in cape town or durban has benefits beyond events that will actually take place in the stadium. If these stadia are the reason more people visit each city and spend more and spread the word about south africa, i dont think we could attach a price to that.

I am actually not shocked by the cost of the stadium. Building a world class stadium with retractable roof in two years...is a tough ask, even for durban, especially when most stadia are built in three years. Realistically stadia will be complete december 2009 not 2008. only time will tell.

In reality the stadium was never going to cost R1.2 billion, especially considering the retractable roof which itself just costs R800 million. Hence the no frills version being about R3.2 bn. I don't think its too excessive when you consider the price of a basic stadium elsewhere in the world eventhough our costs etc. are much lower. The estimate could actually be spot on or slightly over the actual price, maybe it takes into account the possible delays, inflation, increasing price of steel and so forth. The design along with materials they plan to use to build the stadium could be of a high quality instead of what is the cheapest. The stadium is also supposed to be environmentally sustainable and in trying to meet certain environmental standards a cost of R4 billion might not be too excessive.


What I do suggest is government agreeing to provide more funding to both stadia. Both cities have done there bit to ensure that the stadia will become a reality but its government and FIFA who have been pressing for the new stadia. I doubt the Senz stadium will cost less than R2 billion, but we'll have to see how it goes. The Cape Town stadium does not take into account the budget for planned transport infrastructure and other improvements. I think what it might include is the conversion of the Greenpoint Area into a urban and recreation park.

I doubt Cape Town is just wasting a whole lot of money to show off, because IMO the design does not warrant that kind of money. What i do think is possible is that they are being absolutely honest about the cost of the stadium. Not waiting for 2008 and then announcing that the stadium might cost more than what was anticipated. I think the stadium should only cost about R3.5 billion including the new roof. I suppose we can just wait and see from finance reports and studies how a figure of R4 billion + is justified.

Helen Zille certainly hasn't exploded regarding the cost, so they must have produced an excellent presentation to convince her that the R4 billion is in fact what would be needed. With regards to Newlands. No I don't think its the better option and NO i dont think absa stadium is the better option either for durban. Every great city needs to take risks, sometimes its risks not everyone agrees on...but south african cities have been conservative for way too long not only in terms of architecture but in terms of implementing bold plans. The Gautrain being another larger project which has come under fire. Newlands is the boring option which would require major infrastrucutre improvements leading to the stadium...a traffic nightmare would be unavoidable. Apparently its possible to increase the newlands capacity to 68,000 but not without the local residents complaining about new seating hovering over their homes.

In terms of recovering the R4 billion cost, lets hope that private investors come on board and perhaps buy the stadium, perhaps an "Allianz Arena?? in the making?.. I think a new stadium in cape town or durban has benefits beyond events that will actually take place in the stadium. If these stadia are the reason more people visit each city and spend more and spread the word about south africa, i dont think we could attach a price to that.

I am actually not shocked by the cost of the stadium. Building a world class stadium with retractable roof in two years...is a tough ask, even for durban, especially when most stadia are built in three years. Realistically stadia will be complete december 2009 not 2008. only time will tell.


I'm not convinced that spending R4 b on ONE stadium is a good investment in a country that is crying out for poverty alleviation and attention to generally poor health and transport infrastructure. By Mo's reasoning, assuming all cities had equivalent infrastructure, basic stadiums in each of the 3 major SA cities would cost more than R12 billion and would be justifiable spending. Perhaps R5 b in total for ALL the stadiums is 'reasonable' but not R12 b. What then is the threshhold for reasonable stadium expenditure? If we were a G7 nation, maybe R4 b might be reasonable, but let's face it, we're not. Heck, even NY, one of the world's richest and most prominent cities refused to build a new stadium for its 2012 Olympics Games bid (which cost the city its chance to host the games) because its cost ran into hundreds of millions of dollars. Our cities are small fry compared to NY so who are we to spend billions of rands on just one stadium that will benefit relatively few people (only those that can afford to access the stadium for sports and recreational events, who comprise a fraction of the total population). While the stadium might benefit consultants and construction workers for the duration of its construction, and possibly some full-time adminstrators and maintenance crews thereafter, it won't impact on millions of poor and marginalised people in any tangible way. That money could be better spent. Unless the city continuously attracts MAJOR international sporting events on a *regular* basis the stadium won't be attracting many overseas tourists and that kind of spending is therefore unjustified. I don't buy the argument that overseas tourists will travel to a country JUST to see a stadium. A stadium visit might be incidental to their triip but it will hardly be the rationale of their visit to the city. They will come or not regardless of a world=class stadium in the city. Who travels to Atlanta *just* to see it's Olympic Games stadium?

I'm also not convinced, as Mo seemingly suggests, that Zille is tacitly (by 'not exploding' as Mo puts it) supporting spending R4 b on the stadium. Her first preference is clear: upgrade Newlands and convince FIFA of the merits thereof. If national treasury sees the wisdom of her proposal there will be no new stadium in CT but merely an upgrade of Newlands. I also thinks that Zille is under considerable pressure to 'play ball' so to speak and not be negative about CT's role in 2010, as was the accusation when she first became mayor. I think she is hoping that national treasury will make the decision not to support the stadium rather than the decision coming from her. That way she escapes political fallout from rabid pro-stadium Capetonians if the proposed stadium doesn't go ahead.

In my view, I think the proposed CT stadium is going to become a major *national* issue as it pits national interests against local interests. In the grander scheme of things I think spending R4-5 b on just one stadium, be it in JHB, DBN or CT, is simply too much in a country with scarce resources and many pressing social needs. Putting things in perspective, CT is asking for R4 billion just for the honour of hosting 2 additional matches (a semi-final and possibly an opening ceremony; the city is almost guaranteed of hosting prelim rounds and at least a quarter-final match in an upgraded Newlands's stadium). I don't think that amount of money is warranted for this once-off 'honour'. The same applies if the Senzan stadium is going to cost R4 b. Just upgrade ABSA. Let's face it, spending R8 b (assuming Durban's stadium cost has been underestimated and equals CT's) on just two cities is untenable as only one of the two cities is going to host a major event like a Commonwealth or Olympic Games, if ever, making the extravagent funding of the other city's stadium superflous, unnecessary, and a bad investment. Just not worth it in my view.

Let's see how national treasury handles this bomb without upsetting NGOs, lobby groups, and opposition parties crying out for better funding of policing, health, and social assistance grants. If the govt can justify spending R4 b on one stadium then why not billions more on more worthy causes such as AIDS, TB, transport and security? What then is the threshhold for 'reasonableness' re: stadium costs for all the cities? Of course, all the talk of Greenpoint still pre-supposes that residents won't oppose the development, which they've said they would.

I'm not convinced that spending R4 b on ONE stadium is a good investment in a country that is crying out for poverty alleviation and attention to generally poor health and transport infrastructure. By Mo's reasoning, assuming all cities had equivalent infrastructure, basic stadiums in each of the 3 major SA cities would cost more than R12 billion and would be justifiable spending. Perhaps R5 b in total for ALL the stadiums is 'reasonable' but not R12 b. What then is the threshhold for reasonable stadium expenditure? If we were a G7 nation, maybe R4 b might be reasonable, but let's face it, we're not. Heck, even NY, one of the world's richest and most prominent cities refused to build a new stadium for its 2012 Olympics Games bid (which cost the city its chance to host the games) because its cost ran into hundreds of millions of dollars. Our cities are small fry compared to NY so who are we to spend billions of rands on just one stadium that will benefit relatively few people (only those that can afford to access the stadium for sports and recreational events, who comprise a fraction of the total population). While the stadium might benefit consultants and construction workers for the duration of its construction, and possibly some full-time adminstrators and maintenance crews thereafter, it won't impact on millions of poor and marginalised people in any tangible way. That money could be better spent. Unless the city continuously attracts MAJOR international sporting events on a *regular* basis the stadium won't be attracting many overseas tourists and that kind of spending is therefore unjustified. I don't buy the argument that overseas tourists will travel to a country JUST to see a stadium. A stadium visit might be incidental to their triip but it will hardly be the rationale of their visit to the city. They will come or not regardless of a world=class stadium in the city. Who travels to Atlanta *just* to see it's Olympic Games stadium?

I'm also not convinced, as Mo seemingly suggests, that Zille is tacitly (by 'not exploding' as Mo puts it) supporting spending R4 b on the stadium. Her first preference is clear: upgrade Newlands and convince FIFA of the merits thereof. If national treasury sees the wisdom of her proposal there will be no new stadium in CT but merely an upgrade of Newlands. I also thinks that Zille is under considerable pressure to 'play ball' so to speak and not be negative about CT's role in 2010, as was the accusation when she first became mayor. I think she is hoping that national treasury will make the decision not to support the stadium rather than the decision coming from her. That way she escapes political fallout from rabid pro-stadium Capetonians if the proposed stadium doesn't go ahead.

In my view, I think the proposed CT stadium is going to become a major *national* issue as it pits national interests against local interests. In the grander scheme of things I think spending R4-5 b on just one stadium, be it in JHB, DBN or CT, is simply too much in a country with scarce resources and many pressing social needs. Putting things in perspective, CT is asking for R4 billion just for the honour of hosting 2 additional matches (a semi-final and possibly an opening ceremony; the city is almost guaranteed of hosting prelim rounds and at least a quarter-final match in an upgraded Newlands's stadium). I don't think that amount of money is warranted for this once-off 'honour'. The same applies if the Senzan stadium is going to cost R4 b. Just upgrade ABSA. Let's face it, spending R8 b (assuming Durban's stadium cost has been underestimated and equals CT's) on just two cities is untenable as only one of the two cities is going to host a major event like a Commonwealth or Olympic Games, if ever, making the extravagent funding of the other city's stadium superflous, unnecessary, and a bad investment. Just not worth it in my view.

Let's see how national treasury handles this bomb without upsetting NGOs, lobby groups, and opposition parties crying out for better funding of policing, health, and social assistance grants. If the govt can justify spending R4 b on one stadium then why not billions more on more worthy causes such as AIDS, TB, transport and security? What then is the threshhold for 'reasonableness' re: stadium costs for all the cities? Of course, all the talk of Greenpoint still pre-supposes that residents won't oppose the development, which they've said they would.
some good points ill reply tomorrow.

I'm not convinced that spending R4 b on ONE stadium is a good investment in a country that is crying out for poverty alleviation and attention to generally poor health and transport infrastructure. By Mo's reasoning, assuming all cities had equivalent infrastructure, basic stadiums in each of the 3 major SA cities would cost more than R12 billion and would be justifiable spending. Perhaps R5 b in total for ALL the stadiums is 'reasonable' but not R12 b. What then is the threshhold for reasonable stadium expenditure? If we were a G7 nation, maybe R4 b might be reasonable, but let's face it, we're not. Heck, even NY, one of the world's richest and most prominent cities refused to build a new stadium for its 2012 Olympics Games bid (which cost the city its chance to host the games) because its cost ran into hundreds of millions of dollars. Our cities are small fry compared to NY so who are we to spend billions of rands on just one stadium that will benefit relatively few people (only those that can afford to access the stadium for sports and recreational events, who comprise a fraction of the total population). While the stadium might benefit consultants and construction workers for the duration of its construction, and possibly some full-time adminstrators and maintenance crews thereafter, it won't impact on millions of poor and marginalised people in any tangible way. That money could be better spent. Unless the city continuously attracts MAJOR international sporting events on a *regular* basis the stadium won't be attracting many overseas tourists and that kind of spending is therefore unjustified. I don't buy the argument that overseas tourists will travel to a country JUST to see a stadium. A stadium visit might be incidental to their triip but it will hardly be the rationale of their visit to the city. They will come or not regardless of a world=class stadium in the city. Who travels to Atlanta *just* to see it's Olympic Games stadium?

I'm also not convinced, as Mo seemingly suggests, that Zille is tacitly (by 'not exploding' as Mo puts it) supporting spending R4 b on the stadium. Her first preference is clear: upgrade Newlands and convince FIFA of the merits thereof. If national treasury sees the wisdom of her proposal there will be no new stadium in CT but merely an upgrade of Newlands. I also thinks that Zille is under considerable pressure to 'play ball' so to speak and not be negative about CT's role in 2010, as was the accusation when she first became mayor. I think she is hoping that national treasury will make the decision not to support the stadium rather than the decision coming from her. That way she escapes political fallout from rabid pro-stadium Capetonians if the proposed stadium doesn't go ahead.

In my view, I think the proposed CT stadium is going to become a major *national* issue as it pits national interests against local interests. In the grander scheme of things I think spending R4-5 b on just one stadium, be it in JHB, DBN or CT, is simply too much in a country with scarce resources and many pressing social needs. Putting things in perspective, CT is asking for R4 billion just for the honour of hosting 2 additional matches (a semi-final and possibly an opening ceremony; the city is almost guaranteed of hosting prelim rounds and at least a quarter-final match in an upgraded Newlands's stadium). I don't think that amount of money is warranted for this once-off 'honour'. The same applies if the Senzan stadium is going to cost R4 b. Just upgrade ABSA. Let's face it, spending R8 b (assuming Durban's stadium cost has been underestimated and equals CT's) on just two cities is untenable as only one of the two cities is going to host a major event like a Commonwealth or Olympic Games, if ever, making the extravagent funding of the other city's stadium superflous, unnecessary, and a bad investment. Just not worth it in my view.

Let's see how national treasury handles this bomb without upsetting NGOs, lobby groups, and opposition parties crying out for better funding of policing, health, and social assistance grants. If the govt can justify spending R4 b on one stadium then why not billions more on more worthy causes such as AIDS, TB, transport and security? What then is the threshhold for 'reasonableness' re: stadium costs for all the cities? Of course, all the talk of Greenpoint still pre-supposes that residents won't oppose the development, which they've said they would.

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You are a wise man - have you ever thought of a career in politics ? Stadiums aside, what gets to me is the cost of The Gautrain - 12 Billion Rand !! We all know that Joburgers would rather adapt to their driving patterns than use public transport and let's face it, the majority of the population won't be able to afford the price of a ticket on The Gautrain to warrant the expense.

I am also willing to bet that the cost of the Stadiums will NOT be the final estimate - it will escalate over the forthcoming years as with most major projects eg. The Gautrain, the initial cost was R2 billion.

Yussee ur'll write alot

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You are a wise man - have you ever thought of a career in politics ? Stadiums aside, what gets to me is the cost of The Gautrain - 12 Billion Rand !! We all know that Joburgers would rather adapt to their driving patterns than use public transport and let's face it, the majority of the population won't be able to afford the price of a ticket on The Gautrain to warrant the expense.

I am also willing to bet that the cost of the Stadiums will NOT be the final estimate - it will escalate over the forthcoming years as with most major projects eg. The Gautrain, the initial cost was R2 billion.

Actually, the Gautrain's costs are now estimated at R20 billion. See: http://www.miningweekly.co.za/min/news/features/?show=88128

and

http://www.mg.co.za/articlePage.aspx?articleid=255650&area=/insight/insight__national/

The funding for this project is primarily coming from national treasury, not local / provincial govt. That means that I, as a DBN taxpayer, am financing JHB-PTA commuters. A fraction of that amount could have been spent on constructing an alternative major highway between the two cities or completely upgrading the busier Soweto-JHB Metro rail services.

I think the costs of the stadium will escalate the longer the projects take to lift off the ground.

Actually, the Gautrain's costs are now estimated at R20 billion. See: http://www.miningweekly.co.za/min/news/features/?show=88128

and

http://www.mg.co.za/articlePage.aspx?articleid=255650&area=/insight/insight__national/

The funding for this project is primarily coming from national treasury, not local / provincial govt. That means that I, as a DBN taxpayer, am financing JHB-PTA commuters. A fraction of that amount could have been spent on constructing an alternative major highway between the two cities or completely upgrading the busier Soweto-JHB Metro rail services.

I think the costs of the stadium will escalate the longer the projects take to lift off the ground.

Fvcking Hell ! :eek2: That is NZ$4.6 Billion ... geez, we can do alot with that kind of money.

Just imagine, 20 billion buks, in Amsterdam or Berlin, you'd get a broken pelvas by the end of it :D

City takes major step for 2010 stadium

By Max Matavire Metro Editor

PORT Elizabeth‘s 2010 Soccer World Cup stadium has taken a step closer to reality with the naming of the 14 consultants and contractors set to build the facility.

The Nelson Mandela Bay municipality‘s tender evaluation committee has handed in its list of preferred companies that tendered for various jobs regarding the construction of the R711-million stadium.

Final authorisation on all tenders below R10-million will come from the municipality‘s adjudication committee, while tenders above R10-million will be approved by the municipal manager. Construction of the proposed multi-purpose stadium to be built in North End has been divided into 14 different work packages to be undertaken by different contractors.

This is to give local contractors and consultants an opportunity to also get involved in the project.

The tender evaluation committee has recommended that the main tender, for stadium construction and architecture and valued at R114-million, be awarded to Port Elizabeth company Dominic Bonisse Architects/ABA, in association with Germany‘s GMP International consortium (60 per cent) and the Ngonyama Okpanum Associates cc/GAPP Consortium (40%). GMP International is the same firm of architects that did the “detail design” of the stadium, which has already been approved by council.

The names of the preferred companies are included in a report by the tender evaluation committee, a copy of which has been leaked to The Herald. About 52 companies tendered for the contracts.

The report says the objectives of the evaluation were to allow as many firms as possible the opportunity to become involved in the project, to ensure there is a transfer of skills and that at least 40% of the work is given to Eastern Cape companies.

“All aspects relating to the municipality‘s preferential procurement system were checked to ensure that the points scoring was a true reflection of the various companies‘ proposals,” says the tender evaluation report.

Acting municipal manager Vuyo Zitumane confirmed yesterday that the recommendations of the tender evaluation committee would go to the adjudication committee, and that tenders above R10-million would be referred to her for final approval.

The municipality is still awaiting funding from the national treasury for the construction of the stadium. The municipality approved a financial contribution of R95-million towards the project, which will cover the preliminary work and the appointment of consultants.

The report from the tender evaluation committee states that an application for the amount of R650-million was submitted to the transport department for roads infrastructure and public transport, and the first allocation of R53-million has been received. The remainder will be released in portions.

It still remains uncertain as to when exactly construction will start on the 50 000-seater stadium.

Nelson Mandela Bay has now less than two years to meet the Fifa target of completing the stadium by 2008.

However, the municipality has remained adamant that it will meet the deadline.
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SA will pull off World Cup - Fergie
Sapa-AFP
July 22 2006 at 09:39AM

Manchester United manager Alex Ferguson believes South Africa will stage a successful World Cup in 2010, despite some fears over the ability of the country to host the tournament.

Ferguson admits South Africa still has ground to cover before the 32-team event kicks off, but has no doubt SA can achieve its aims.

Fears about the building of stadia, inadequate public transport and a rise in violent crime have led to suggestions that Fifa is considering switching the tournament to Australia, a claim vehemently denied by Fifa and the South African Football Association.

Ferguson said: "It's a big challenge for South Africa, but it's such a good country and there is so much enthusiasm that I think it will all work well.




'Friendly atmosphere'
"The important issues it faces are to add more stadiums to the ones already built because you will need 10 stadia to operate in the World Cup.

"The transport system and security of the fans are other pertinent issues, particular the fans coming into South Africa.

"How are you going to incorporate them into a friendly atmosphere, like Germany did? The Germans made all sorts of arrangements for the fans from many different countries.

"I've been impressed during this trip, however. The Royal Bafokeng Stadium in Rustenburg was absolutely fantastic. What really impressed me there was the floodlighting. It was incredible, the best I've ever seen!

"I know they are going to do some renovations there for 2010, but as the stadium is at the moment, there is not a lot wrong with it. It was brilliant.

"Newlands in Cape Town is an old stadium, but it creates a fantastic atmosphere. They are also already planning to build a new stadium in Cape Town and also in Durban, so progress is being made."

1.3.2 Stadium precinct options
According to the preliminary business plan for the stadium, the stadium precinct would accommodate a range of sporting and related activities aimed at creating a development that would be well used and at maximizing financial viability. The following activities are currently mooted:

1.3.2.1 Swimming Pool
Professional sportsmen and women based at the stadium or utilizing the stadium require an indoor heated swimming pool for a variety of training and rehabilitation needs. High level research indicates a need for an indoor pool facility to accommodate a variety of pool based sports/ activities including water polo, diving, competitive and recreational swimming and possibly lesser known sports such as underwater hockey and synchronised swimming. The swimming pool should be located close to the stadium to facilitate easy access by professional sports teams based at the stadium. Limited spectator seating should be provided (± 2,000)

1.3.2.2 Training Fields

At least two but preferably four training fields for soccer and rugby are required to cater for the needs of the professional teams. Basic ablutions are required in close proximity to these fields.


1.3.2.3 Tartan athletics track

A tartan athletics track is required for both professional team usage and as a possible venue for specific athletics training. No spectator seating is required for this track. It is suggested that the track could encircle one of the training fields discussed above.
1.3.2.4 Tennis facility
Tennis Western Province has presented a high level proposal to establish a new tennis facility on the Green Point Common. The facility will incorporate the courts of the existing Three Anchor Bay Tennis Club and the existing Green Point Tennis Club. These facilities comprise a total of 16 tennis courts. The Tennis Western Province proposal suggests a total of 24 courts including a “centre court” which will have permanent seating for 2 500 and capacity for additional temporary seating for major events. The facility will be entirely funded by Tennis Western Province subject to certain agreements between the landowner and Tennis Western Province.

1.3.2.5 Indoor Sports Facility
An indoor facility is suggested that can accommodate a variety of indoor specific sporting codes and other activities. The following sports / activities should be accommodated:
• Netball;
• Volley ball;
• Table tennis;
• Basketball;
• Fencing;
• Badminton;
• Squash.
This facility should be configured so that it can be used as a large indoor function / hospitality area for major events or occasions. As such it would be ideal if it were to be located with easy access to the stadium and in close proximity to the retail area (catering etc). The indoor facility could be located within the planned covered parking area provided for the 2010 FIFA World Cup. This parking area under the “berm” around portions of the stadium could be reconfigured after the event to house the indoor sports facility, the action sports arena, skateboard park and possibly the swimming pool complex.

1.3.2.6 Action Sports Arena
Action Sports South Africa has shown very keen interest in establishing an action sport arena on the common as part of the sports precinct. The facility will be used for the following action sports:
• Action Cricket;
• Action Soccer;
• Action Netball.
The ideal spatial requirement for such an arena is 1,800 m² in a rectangular configuration. Action Sports South Africa can provide specific layout requirements. The design team are confident that the Action Sports Arena could be incorporated into the 11
same indoor facility described above, but in its own dedicated area. Common lobby, changing facilities and catering/ refreshment areas should be possible in this configuration.

1.3.2.7 Skateboard Park

A skateboard park design is relatively flexible but would ideally require 2 500 m² to establish a commercially viable facility. The skate park should ideally be located in close proximity to other commercial or retail elements, but can stand-alone.

1.3.2.8 Golf course

The existing golf course provides an opportunity for golf development in the City of Cape Town. The design team proposed the retention of the existing metropolitan golf course with an expansion of its functions. This expansion will accommodate the existing membership base but include a developmental facility. The addition of a driving range and practice greens would assist in converting this facility into a golf training and tuition unit.

1.3.2.9 Jogging and cycling track

The provision of a safe, traffic-free cycling and jogging track will compliment the overall sporting nature of the Green Point Common. The track will also be used by the professional sportsmen and women based at the stadium. It is envisaged that the track would wind its way around the perimeter of the common and fit within the landscape and urban design. A simple tar surface would be ideal.
1.3.2.10 Retail
It is suggested that this development may be more appropriate for the “Green Point Track A & B field site within the precinct which is the most appropriately zoned. The size and tenant mix for this development will be determined based on the allocation of land for the development. The development is envisaged to have one anchor supermarket tenant with a mix of major tenants who are currently not well represented in the V&A Waterfront or Sea Point areas. Access routes to and from the precinct/ common across the new Granger Bay Boulevard will link the retail area with the rest of the precinct/ common.

1.3.2.11 Hotel

Zoning restrictions may preclude the development of a hotel or similar accommodation/ residential establishment on the common. The aforementioned A & B field site may offer an opportunity for such an establishment. Alternatively the existing Somerset Hospital site may offer accommodation development opportunities in the future. The proximity of the above sites to the stadium and precinct will provide easy access for stadium related accommodation needs.

1.3.2.12 Flea Market/ Circus/ Other

Ad hoc use of the parking areas or public open spaces for flea markets, “art in the park”, or other community events, should be encouraged. There is practically no design requirement for these activities, other than outdoor landscaped areas.

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1.3.2.13 Public Open Space/ Parkland
It is recommended that the land between any of the fixed use areas should be landscaped to provide open spaces for the community to enjoy at leisure. Water features and grassed areas mixed with indigenous plants and trees would help to offset the potentially harsh visual structures on the common.

Alternative 2: The Existing Stadium Site (see Figure 1)
This alternative implies that the stadium will be constructed on the current stadium precinct.
The existing stadium will be demolished as the orientation, building structure and size are
unsuitable to what is required. The footprint will exceed that of the current stadium and a
considerable increase in height will be necessary. The proposed new stadium will have a
north-south alignment.
The new stadium will consist of the following:
• The stadium building is proposed to reach an estimated height of approximately 40m
above existing ground level. The footprint of the stadium will be approximately 5.3ha.
The footprint of the stadium together with a concourse or podium area surrounding the
stadium will take up approximately 10.6ha of land. The stadium will be designed to have
three tiers during the 2010 World Cup. After the 2010 event, the upper third tier of
seating will be removed and this area will be converted into a conference and reception
venue. This will reduce the number of seats from 68 000 to about 55 000 seats.
• The concourse or podium area which will surround the stadium building and reach an
approximate height of 9m above existing ground level. This area will be accessed via a
grand staircase and two ramps. The sporting facilities that are being considered within
this 10.6ha are a gym, indoor pool complex with Olympic size pool and an action sports
arena.
• A sloping berm will be aligned on the western and northern edges of the concourse. This
berm will slope up from ground level and conceal the concourse from the north and west.
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• A forecourt that will include ticket sales will be created at the existing ground level in the
area between the concourse, Western Boulevard and Granger Bay Boulevard.
• Access to the concourse will be allowed from the north with the establishment of second
small forecourt north of the stadium with access off Fritz Sonnenberg Road.
• Parking will be provided under the concourse for approximately 2000 to 3000 permanent
bays. While a minimum of 1700 bays are required for FIFA VIP’s during events, parking
for post 2010 events are also being accommodated. As 5000 parking bays are
envisaged for larger events, post 2010, the balance of parking in the form of temporary
bays will be provided by overflowing onto the Common.
• Parking for persons with disabilities is proposed to be provided in the structured parking
within the stadium. Access to this parking will be via the new intersection on Western
Boulevard.

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idont know if this has been posted, but was a big story in yesterdays Business Day.

Zille wants billions for 2010 stadium
Chris van Gass

CAPE TOWN — The City of Cape Town expects government to provide funding of between R2,6bn and R3,6bn to build a 68000-seat soccer stadium in Green Point in time to host the 2010 Fifa Soccer World Cup, mayor Helen Zille said yesterday.

Zille said an in-house feasibility study had revealed that the city would be able to pay only R400m, 11%-15% of the total estimated cost of the stadium.

The total cost of constructing the stadium is estimated to be between R3bn and R4bn, including infrastructure such as transport.

Taking the brakes off the development of the Green Point site as the number one site for the city, Zille said the financial commitment was “imperative” to see the building of the Green Point stadium — which was the first choice of Fifa.

Western Cape premier Ebrahim Rasool welcomed Zille’s announcement, saying it was all systems go for Green Point as the 2010 stadium, but said Zille’s estimation of costs was “premature”.

“We are not seeking to replicate the hi-tech German stadia. No design work has yet been done and, therefore, no quantity surveyor has yet been engaged. We will cut our suit according to our cloth,” he said.


Zille said that in addition to the development of the stadium, the city planned to turn Cape Town into a “party capital of 2010” by developing viewing sites where fans could gather to enjoy the soccer in areas such as Khayelitsha , Mitchells Plain and Atlantis. These would be turned into quality, open public spaces afterwards.

Zille said the two “killer constraints” were time and money. She said government, through Deputy Finance Minister Jabu Moleketi, had made a commitment to contribute “substantially” to the stadium costs.

Zille said the next major consultation process would be in November, when government should show its hand on the finance issue, which would then enable construction to start on the site of the existing Green Point stadium in January next year.

Zille said the money required from government was imperative for the success of the project and that the decision to move ahead with the project was done in good faith in anticipation of government’s contribution.

She said no contracts would be signed until such time as the money issue had been clarified.

However, the city also had a “plan B”, the Newlands rugby stadium, to fall back on.

However, this would require convincing Fifa to accept a 55000-seater stadium, in place of the stipulated 68000-seat stadium.

The planned public transport infrastructure projects across the metropolitan area of Cape Town, as well as in the Cape Town CBD area, as described in the Development Framework for the 2010 Regional Transport Plan, are provided below.


1. Restructuring of public transport
2. Klipfontein Corridor improvements
3. Integrated Fare Management System
4. City-wide Non-motorised Transport Plan
5. Long distance coach terminals
6. Hospital Bend Upgrade Scheme
7. Completion of the Foreshore Freeway
9. Public Transport Dedicated Lane Projects:
• Otto Du Plessis Bus Contra-Flow Scheme
• Koeberg Road Bus Priority Schemes
• N1 bus Priority Scheme
• N2 Bus Priority Scheme
10. Upgrade to Cape Town International Airport
11. Upgrade of Cape Town Station

idont know if this has been posted, but was a big story in yesterdays Business Day.

Zille wants billions for 2010 stadium
Chris van Gass

CAPE TOWN — The City of Cape Town expects government to provide funding of between R2,6bn and R3,6bn to build a 68000-seat soccer stadium in Green Point in time to host the 2010 Fifa Soccer World Cup, mayor Helen Zille said yesterday.

Zille said an in-house feasibility study had revealed that the city would be able to pay only R400m, 11%-15% of the total estimated cost of the stadium.

The total cost of constructing the stadium is estimated to be between R3bn and R4bn, including infrastructure such as transport.

Taking the brakes off the development of the Green Point site as the number one site for the city, Zille said the financial commitment was “imperative” to see the building of the Green Point stadium — which was the first choice of Fifa.

Western Cape premier Ebrahim Rasool welcomed Zille’s announcement, saying it was all systems go for Green Point as the 2010 stadium, but said Zille’s estimation of costs was “premature”.

“We are not seeking to replicate the hi-tech German stadia. No design work has yet been done and, therefore, no quantity surveyor has yet been engaged. We will cut our suit according to our cloth,” he said.


Zille said that in addition to the development of the stadium, the city planned to turn Cape Town into a “party capital of 2010” by developing viewing sites where fans could gather to enjoy the soccer in areas such as Khayelitsha , Mitchells Plain and Atlantis. These would be turned into quality, open public spaces afterwards.

Zille said the two “killer constraints” were time and money. She said government, through Deputy Finance Minister Jabu Moleketi, had made a commitment to contribute “substantially” to the stadium costs.

Zille said the next major consultation process would be in November, when government should show its hand on the finance issue, which would then enable construction to start on the site of the existing Green Point stadium in January next year.

Zille said the money required from government was imperative for the success of the project and that the decision to move ahead with the project was done in good faith in anticipation of government’s contribution.

She said no contracts would be signed until such time as the money issue had been clarified.

However, the city also had a “plan B”, the Newlands rugby stadium, to fall back on.

However, this would require convincing Fifa to accept a 55000-seater stadium, in place of the stipulated 68000-seat stadium.

Yeah good article..luckily the R4 billion includes transport upgrades and supporting infrastructure, etc.

for me the scary thing is that No design has taken place. Thats a scary thought...also, do u think that completing the foreshore freeway wil be done before 2010? and wont it just ruin that entrance area to CT? flying past buildings and stuff??

for me the scary thing is that No design has taken place. Thats a scary thought...also, do u think that completing the foreshore freeway wil be done before 2010? and wont it just ruin that entrance area to CT? flying past buildings and stuff??
my dad says they will complete it..but i have my doubts..it will cross over the entrance to the waterfront/harbour area slightly.most of it doesnt interfere with any city views...design has taken place...they havent been sitting around for weeks without some design work ...the actual design constraints etc. are all complete..i suppose they are now bringing in GMP for the final design phase, now that the site has been selected..but GMP from what ive heard have been working alongside some designers locally attempting to design the "circular" shaped stadium that wil also feature a retractable roof...its not that scary since ive seen one main design...thats why i mentioned that i hoped they changed it ...because it was quite crappy..

http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/2454/capetownnew2jx8.jpg
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^^ thanx for the pics! that makes my mind up, the flyovers will completely destroy that area. raised highways are ugly at the best of times, but that will be terrible for that portion of the city. yes it will serve a much needed function...but i think it will rob the area

^^ thanx for the pics! that makes my mind up, the flyovers will completely destroy that area. raised highways are ugly at the best of times, but that will be terrible for that portion of the city. yes it will serve a much needed function...but i think it will rob the area
shit im quite good at predicting your response to things...

^^ well u should know how i feel about ugly things that cut off areas. if the flyovers were completed years ago the buildings wld never have been built where they are.

Are u telling me that u dont agree with what i said?

I didn't see this one posted (forgive me if I'm wrong):

South Africa: W Cape Premier Calls On Capetonians To Get Ready For 2010

BuaNews (Tshwane)

July 21, 2006
Posted to the web July 21, 2006

Clive Ndou
Cape Town

Western Cape Premier Ebrahim Rasool has welcomed the City of Cape Town's endorsement of the Green Point Stadium as the preferred venue for the proposed 2010 Soccer World Cup semi-final match.

"I now call on all citizens of the Province and the City to unite in getting ready for 2010," he said.

Early this year, FIFA, the Local Organising Committee (LOC) and the Western Cape Provincial Government unanimously endorsed Green Point as the preferred venue for one of the semi-final soccer matches to held in the country during the 2010 world cup tournament.

However, the City of Cape Town refused to endorse the decision, saying no comprehensive study had been conducted to establish the suitability of the venue.

The City then commissioned its own independent feasibility study, the results of which were tabled by Mayor Helen Zille yesterday.

Among other things, the study found that Green Point was the only suitable stadium in the City where a soccer match of that magnitude could be held.

It also found that construction work on the stadium scheduled to begin next January would cost about R4.3 billion.

But, Mr Rasool said the costs could be lower.

"We are not seeking to replicate the high-tech German stadia. We will cut our suit according to our cloth."

The premier said he had held discussions with LOC Chief Executive, Danny Jordaan and Deputy Finance Minister, Jabu Moleketi who would dispatch a technical team to the province to assist with costing and other related matters.

"Only once this has been done - at the hand of clear designs and specifications - can we speak to issues of costs".

However, he welcomed the Mayor's commitment of R400m towards the cost of the stadium.

"The world wants to be in Cape Town for 2010. We must now get ready," the premier urged.

About this whole deal, I just have to say Helen Zille (DA, cough, cough) has really come out as a big supporter and proponent of getting things going, so my hats off to her.

I didn't see this one posted (forgive me if I'm wrong):



About this whole deal, I just have to say Helen Zille (DA, cough, cough) has really come out as a big supporter and proponent of getting things going, so my hats off to her.

I think she has done well under pressure.

Didn't see this one from Sun posted. Sorry if this is a double post.

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Dark Clouds Over Cape Town Stadium

Sunday Times (Johannesburg)

July 23, 2006
Posted to the web July 24, 2006

Colin Bryden
Cape Town

ATTENDING a briefing on the proposed site of Cape Town's stadium for the 2010 World Cup was like watching the first five minutes of a match between two football teams intent on giving nothing away.

Yes, the city of Cape Town wanted a state-of-the-art stadium at Green Point but, no, it was not prepared to jeopardise the city's future well-being.

Just as Sven-Göran Eriksson was only prepared to deploy one of his 10 outfield men in a striking position for England, mayor Helen Zille insisted Cape Town could only afford R400-million of the R4.3-billion ideally required for a stadium project.

The ball was passed straight back to the ultimate goalkeeper, the national government, which was planning to spend a total of R5-billion on building or upgrading 10 World Cup venues.

As things stand, most of that budget will have to be spent in Cape Town if the country's most scenic city is to stage a semifinal and, it hopes, the opening match.

The city wants a government commitment by November at the latest if work is to start in January.

Even that would be squeezing the timeline, leaving no margin for complications or delays in the estimated construction period of 30 months, with the trial-run Confederations Cup due to be staged in 2009.

Until a government yeah or nay by November, Cape Town will be going ahead with the project, doing the preliminary work necessary before building can start.

Assuming Green Point does go ahead, there are some significant agreements that will have to be put in place for it to be sustainable beyond 2010.

The future of the Newlands rugby stadium is intertwined with the Green Point project. If Plan A fails, Newlands is Plan B. The stadium can be upgraded to a 55 000-seater, up from the current 49 000 at less than half the price and in half the time required for Green Point.

Cape Town planning chief Mike Marsden spoke of the need for "anchor tenants", the most obvious of which would be Western Province rugby. On the other hand, if Western Province rugby agreed to move to Green Point their own stadium at Newlands would become redundant.

As it is in a residential area, it could be sold off profitably for development, ending more than a century of history at one of the world's great rugby venues.

Theuns Roodman, chief executive of the union, said the city had kept the union "in the loop" but any talk of a move was premature: "We will not take a decision until all the facts are on the table".

In the meantime, the possibility of World Cup games being staged at Newlands seems reasonably high, although the stadium cannot profitably be upgraded to the 68 000 capacity required by Fifa for a semifinal venue. "We don't have multi-purpose rights and can't stage events such as pop concerts," said Rob Wagner, chief executive of the professional arm of WP rugby.

Even an extension of the current north stand would require building across a road and planting support structures in residential properties, which fortunately for the rugby union they already own.

Given the complexities of the Cape Town situation, the sharply revised costs -- the original estimate was that a stadium could be built for around R1.4-billion -- and the amount of groundwork put in by the Cape Town team, alarm bells should be ringing in government offices.

If it is going to cost so much to build in Cape Town and time is so short, how solid are the plans -- and budgets -- for completely new stadiums in Port Elizabeth, Nelspruit and Polokwane?

The game is on but there is a lot of political football ahead, with neither South Africa nor Fifa wanting the financial or building equivalent of a penalty shootout after extra time.


http://allafrica.com/stories/200607240374.html

This is the ammunition that the anti-Greenpoint Stadium proponents are going to use in court if they decide to challenge (by way of a judicial review) the decision of the city to build at Greenpoint.

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2010 stadium: environment proposal overlooked
Igsaan Salie
July 22 2006 at 10:23AM

The City of Cape Town went against the advice of the environmental impact assessment it commissioned to assess the location of the proposed World Cup stadium in Green Point.

The Draft Environmental Impact Report released on Friday considered both the existing Green Point stadium site as well as the adjacent Metropolitan Golf Course and found the golf course to have more positive environmental impacts.

In particular, the researchers noted that placing the stadium on the golf course would affect the view of far fewer people in the area. Despite this, the city of Cape Town this week said it would build the new stadium on the site of the existing Green Point stadium.

This decision allows the city to side-step any further delays in the process, after the Green Point Coalition of residents indicated that it would contest any decision for construction on the golf course.

'World-class stadium'
Independent research company, The Environmental Partnership, conducted the research and compiled the report which will be available for public comment over the next 30 days.

The report also hinted at what the proposed stadium would look like.

The researchers based their analysis on a hypothetical "68 000-seater, all-weather, multi-purpose, environmentally sustainable, modern, technologically advanced, world-class stadium".

The building is proposed to reach an estimated height of 40m and have a footprint of 5,3 hectares.

Combined with the surrounding podium area this footprint would double to 10,6ha.

After considering the data the researchers found that the golf course site had "more positive environmental impacts".

One of the most prominent points made in the report was that by situating the stadium on the golf course site, it would significantly reduce the number of people who have their view permanently affected.

The report explained that the golf course site was a greater distance from the apartments and houses in Green Point, Bay Road and Beach Road.

Sustainability has been raised by the city as an important factor to be considered and this week the city highlighted concerns which it had about filling the venue after 2010.

The hypothetical design appears to accommodate this by allowing three tiers of seating during the World Cup, but after the event the upper tier will be sectioned off.

This will reduce the seating capacity from 68 000 to 55 000 and the area occupied by the third tier will be converted into a conference and reception venue.

The surrounding concourse or podium is being considered as housing for a gym, indoor Olympic-size swimming pool and an action sports arena.

Parking will provide between 2 000 and 3 000 permanent bays.

The report raised serious concern about the economic viability of the stadium.

It stated that at least 85 percent of the capital costs of the project had to be subsidised externally, otherwise "the stadium could become a financial burden to local government".

Apart from highlighting various upgrades needed to infrastructure around stadium, the report also pointed out that an additional 10 megavolt amps load of power would be needed.

"The existing electricity distribution network is not equipped to supply this demand and will therefore require upgrading," the report said. The upgrading would include Montague Gardens, Foreshore, Roggebaai and Koeberg Road substations.

"A new substation will also be required at the stadium. The upgrade would also entail the installation of underground electrical high-voltage cables from Montague Gardens to the upgraded substations and stadium site."

The draft report will be available for public comment for 30 days, to be submitted directly to The Environmental Partnership.

After the 30 days, comments will be considered and the draft report will be finalised before being submitted to the relevant authority.

The company said that the draft report would be available by the end of today at several libraries around the city as well as on their website, www.enviropartnership.co.za.

Any comments have to be submitted on or before August 22 and can be e-mailed to enviropart@icon.co.za igsaans@incape.co.za


http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=124&art_id=vn20060722083931242C576408

CTICC to double capacity for media

July 24 2006 at 02:33PM

By Maurice de Jong

The Cape Town International Convention Centre (CTICC) hopes to double its current capacity in the run-up to the 2010 soccer World Cup in South Africa.

The centre wants to expand from 10 000m² to more than 20 000m² to accommodate about 3 000 journalists from all over the world in a special media centre.

The CTICC plans to build 16 new floors on the Heerengracht side. The lowest three will be used for exhibitions and the rest for office space. The centre expects the new floors to be ready early next year.

'...we will approach Fifa to secure the media centre for Cape Town'
"I was in Munich, Germany at the media centre during the World Cup 2006 and the size over there was 30 000m², which was too large, However, we need around 20 000m²," said Dirk Elzinga, managing director of the CTICC.

He said the desire to expand the centre had always been there, but the plans had gained momentum because of 2010.

"Everything is still very premature. No decisions have been made yet," said Elzinga.

He said plans for the CTICC expansion would be more concrete after a board meeting in September. A project team would then approach the city and province to negotiate with the national Department of Public Works, the owner of the land, for permission to expand.

Mayor Helen Zille said on Wednesday that she hoped the 2010 media centre would be set up in Cape Town.

Mayoral spokesperson Robert McDonald said: "Together with the province, we will approach Fifa to secure the media centre for Cape Town."

He said the CTICC was a good place to accommodate media, because it had "access to the highest technology".

McDonald also said he was not worried that budget shortages for the stadiums in Cape Town would stymie the centre's plans: "I hope there will be no shortage.

"However, the National Treasury has stated they will underwrite the costs of building new stadia."

The CTICC would finance the increased capacity from its own resources, said Elzinga.

The centre also wants to host the Fifa Congress preceding the World Cup.

Local Fifa organising committee chief executive Danny Jordaan could not be reached for comment.

^^ so they are obviously talking about the convention tower...so its not really convention space...

^^ so they are obviously talking about the convention tower...so its not really convention space...

the article is firstly poorly written..the journalist added in a paragraph relating to the convention tower which is semi relevant to the actual expansion

""Everything is still very premature. No decisions have been made yet," said Elzinga.
"...Of course decisions have been made...so they arent talking about the convention tower but other space around the cticc. The journalist clearly didnt get this message across.

"owner of the land for permission to expand"---this also is not in reference to the convention tower...of course they already have permission to expand if it was the convention tower spot. this refers to other land or space.
again not a well structure article.

the convention tower could in no way make up the 10,000 plus square metres of expansion space they would like to make available. it only adds 1,200

10,000 sqm existing space
1,200 added by convention tower
10,000 proposed addition space, plan or design not concrete will be finalized in september...

= 21,200 sqm.
this is what i deduced from the article...im not sure if im correct though.


ok this i found after posting the above:

This year the CTICC hosts about 5,000 delegates for the International Blood Transfusion Congress in September; 4,000 delegates for the International Urology Congress in November; and 10,000 delegates for the International Diabetes Federation during the first week of December. Skeate believes that the CTICC’s world-class offering and the operational team’s aggressive marketing approach, has been the major reason for the CTICC’s ability to attract larger international conferences.

“Every year Dirk and his team produce excellent results which set a solid base for the CTICC’s expansion plans. As more and larger international events turn to Cape Town, there is a growing need to look at meeting the expanding demands on the centre,” Skeate concluded.

An additional 1, 200 m2 of exhibition space is already under construction on the centre’s east side as part of a new 15-storey office tower. Negotiations are also underway between the centre, provincial government and the Department of Public Works to acquire Customs House, a nearby government building, to meet the demand of an additional 10,000m2 of space.


http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/6254/cticcmapexpansionsl8.jpg

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/9022/cticcexpansionbs0.jpg

Hey they blowing down the last stand today at Kings Park at 3 o clock, I cant make it, I have a flippin meeting in Ballito! So if any durban boys are free, pleazz go down & take snaps, its gonna be a fancy event I saw the tents & that they setting up for the Mayor & Premier to *Push the button*---------------BOOM!

Hey they blowing down the last stand today at Kings Park at 3 o clock, I cant make it, I have a flippin meeting in Ballito! So if any durban boys are free, pleazz go down & take snaps, its gonna be a fancy event I saw the tents & that they setting up for the Mayor & Premier to *Push the button*---------------BOOM!
boom boom..lotsa champagne..

City can still host 2009 Confederations Cup games
July 25, 2006

By Jermaine Craig and Anél Powell

Cape Town could still get to host some of the 2009 Fifa Confederations Cup games if its 2010 World Cup stadium is built in time, says Danny Jordaan, chief executive of the local Fifa World Cup Local Organising Committee (LOC).

The Confederations Cup, described by the head of Fifa's South Africa office, Michael Palmer, as a "hugely important" trial run a year before the World Cup, is an eight-team tournament which will feature 2006 World Cup champions Italy, 2010 hosts South Africa and the winners of the next European, South American, Concacaf, African, Oceania and Asian championships.

But the coastal cities of Cape Town and Durban, expected to be extremely popular 2010 locations given their beaches, scenery and tourist reputations, may miss out on the Confederations Cup, with the LOC having earmarked Gauteng's Soccer City, Ellis Park and Loftus stadiums, North West's Royal Bafokeng and the Free State Stadium as the designated venues for the 2009 Confederations Cup.

All the upcountry stadiums selected for the Confederations Cup are already in place and will only require upgrades before 2010, whereas brand new stadiums are to be built in Cape Town and Durban.

Durban has already started construction of a proposed R1.6 billion stadium adjacent to the King's Park Stadium.

Cape Town's 2010 plans have been marred by political haggling since mayor Helen Zille put the brakes on contracts for the project pending a comprehensive report on the costs and site alternatives for the stadium earlier this year.

Any "political haggling" had been parallel to and separate from the processes put in motion to prepare the city for 2010, said mayoral spokesman Robert MacDonald.


As the notion of building a new stadium in Cape Town was only decided last year, Durban had the advantage of having had more time to prepare, he said.

Premier Ebrahim Rasool was unable to comment, but his spokeswoman, Shado Twala, said the province and the city were working together on 2010 and the World Cup would be one of several items discussed at today's meeting.

Zille announced last week that it would cost R3.2 billion to build a 2010 stadium in Green Point and R1.1bn more to upgrade the infrastructure of the area.

She said the city had only R400 million for the project and that the remainder would have to come from Fifa or the national government.

The government has budgeted R5.5bn for its contribution to the costs of building or upgrading the 10 venues required for the World Cup.

Teral Cullen, Cape Town's project director for 2010, said it was "premature" to say that the city would miss out on the crucial "dry run" event that was the Confederations Cup.

She said Fifa and the local organising committee would decide later this year. "We are working towards completing the stadium in time."
Jordaan said the five stadiums the organising committee had chosen for the Confederations Cup met Fifa requirements for the World Cup dress rehearsal.

"If a new stadium is completed in time they can argue for inclusion, but at the moment that's the position.

"The Confederations Cup will be a test event for the World Cup. We have to have five stadiums and we've provided for that."

Is this the Bafana dream team?
Nkareng Matshe
July 25 2006 at 11:59AM

Just how will Bafana Bafana's bench look in the upcoming months? Carlos Alberto Perreira with Pitso Mosimane and Khabo Zondo at his side could breathe new life into a team in decline.

Coach:
Carlos Alberto Perreira

Strengths: A World Cup winner in 1994, Parreira is one of the most experienced coaches in world soccer, having been a coach since 1967. He has coached four nations at the World Cup and is credited with developing and identifying talent.

He can speak English and knows this country well, having been invited for an interview six years ago, only to turn the offer down. If Bafana need someone who can rebuild the team, then they've got the right man.
He arrives with a big reputation

Weaknesses: Some have already questioned the wisdom of employing a 64-year-old who, while he's amassed vast reserves of experience worldwide, has only briefly coached in Africa. He coached Asante Kotoko and Ghana in 1967-68 and has never returned to head any team on the continent.

He was fired by Saudi Arabia after only two matches in 1998 and was heavily criticised for failing to defend the World Cup with his big stars in Germany this year.

Also, he arrives with a big reputation and there will be enormous pressure on him to deliver. A coach with a weaker CV might be allowed time to settle in his job, but despite Bafana's disastrous current state if, for instance, someone of Parreira's stature loses three matches in a row there could be trouble. Will have to justify his huge salary, which, reportedly, will be about R1-million a month.


Assistant coaches:
Khabo Zondo
Zondo has also not been able to win titles in the domestic league

Strengths: Zondo is one of the few local coaches who can be trusted to speak authoritatively on South African soccer. He has had stints with the national team (he was at the World Cup 2002 as assistant to Jomo Sono) and knows the South African game better than most.

A talent-spotter of note, Zondo is credited with moulding Golden Arrows into one of the Premier Soccer League's most formidable sides and doubtless Parreira can do with his input.

Weaknesses: While his international experience can be said to be limited, Zondo has also not been able to win titles in the domestic league. Arrows remain without any honours in spite of the fact that he's been there for some time. His brief stint with Mamelodi Sundowns also did not produce the desired results.


Pitso Mosimane:

Strengths: The SuperSport United coach has attracted rave reviews for his turnaround of the club. He found them battling relegation but turned them into one of the top teams in the country, an indication that he's maturing rapidly as a coach.

He took SuperSport to the African Champions League group phase and returned to win two domestic trophies. He's worked with the national team recently and has said he would love another bite at the cherry.

Weaknesses: Mosimane will always be associated with that dismal Bafana side which failed to even score a goal at the African Cup of Nations in January. His latest two-match tenure at the helm was disappointing, with a draw to Lesotho and a defeat to Botswana. He still has a way to go and is by no means the finished product.


Manager:
Lucas Radebe

Strengths: Having spent more than a decade at Leeds United, Radebe catapulted himself to be South Africa's most recognisable soccer personality. He is earmarked for a position in the team management - "he will not be involved in technical matters," one insider said - and could serve as a link between the players and Safa.

Having captained Bafana in most of his 70 caps, he's idolised by young players and should be familiar with the problems they may encounter with the association, such as call-up letters not being sent on time.

Weaknesses: If he gets the job as team manager, it would his first time in such a role. He's more used to the on-the-field stuff rather than an office job, but has said he'll be willing to assist if required.

SA will be ready for 2010, organisers insist

July 25 2006 at 04:26PM

By Clare Nullis

South Africa will be ready to host the World Cup in 2010, organisers insisted on Tuesday, seeking to dispel worries over transportation, accommodation and stadiums.

Danny Jordaan, head of the organising committee, said South Africa was ahead of schedule in its preparations and should relish the opportunities offered by the soccer showcase.

He disclosed that Fifa had already handed over $10-million (R70-million) to South Africa to rebuild its national soccer team, which failed to qualify for this year's tournament in Germany.

South Africa, which also lost in the first round of the African Cup of Nations, hopes to appoint former Brazil coach Carlos Alberto Parreira as its new coach.

Parreira quit after Brazil was eliminated by France in the quarterfinals in Germany.

Fifa has also contributed $10-million for a new headquarters for the South African Football Association. This serves as an advance payment of the $20-million profit guaranteed to the host federation, Jordaan said.

"We are relaxed," Jordaan told a parliamentary committee debating the legislative framework for 2010. "We should not demoralise ourselves unnecessarily."

South Africa is the first African nation to be awarded the event and says the pride of the whole continent is at stake. Almost on a daily basis the government promotes the World Cup as a catalyst for economic growth.

But already there has been a flurry of speculation that the tournament may be moved, with Australia mentioned as one possible alternative.

Fifa's top official in South Africa, Michael Palmer, dismissed such talk as "nonsense". He said the world soccer body is confident that South Africa will overcome problems associated with the lack of public transport and come up with sufficient accommodation for visitors.

Jordaan said South Africa is more advanced than Germany at a comparable stage in its planning. Germany - which won universal acclaim for organisation of this year's World Cup - completed six stadiums last year and two this year.

Jordaan said South Africa would be "hammered" for finishing stadiums so late.

The government has earmarked about R5-billion for building and renovating 10 stadiums, and a further R8,7-billion on upgrades to airports, roads and railway lines.

Cape Town - South Africa's top tourist destination - only last week gave the go-ahead to a planned semifinal stadium in the city centre, but said the project was subject to a massive cash injection from the central government.

In a sign of the protracted budget wrangles ahead, organising committee members told parliament that they disputed Cape Town's claims that it would need 3.8 billion rand to meet the cost of the new stadium.

With the exception of Cape Town, all the host cities have embraced the World Cup with gusto as a chance to put South Africa - so long synonymous with apartheid - on the world map.

About 350 000 foreign visitors are expected to come for the month-long tournament. On the income side, Jordaan said the tournament should create 129,000 jobs in an economy battered by high unemployment. He said it would lead to an additional R7,2-billion in tax revenues. - Sapa-AP

http://iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=6&click_id=4&art_id=qw1153837082427S163

SA will be ready for 2010, organisers insist

July 25 2006 at 04:26PM

By Clare Nullis

South Africa will be ready to host the World Cup in 2010, organisers insisted on Tuesday, seeking to dispel worries over transportation, accommodation and stadiums.

Danny Jordaan, head of the organising committee, said South Africa was ahead of schedule in its preparations and should relish the opportunities offered by the soccer showcase.

He disclosed that Fifa had already handed over $10-million (R70-million) to South Africa to rebuild its national soccer team, which failed to qualify for this year's tournament in Germany.

South Africa, which also lost in the first round of the African Cup of Nations, hopes to appoint former Brazil coach Carlos Alberto Parreira as its new coach.

Parreira quit after Brazil was eliminated by France in the quarterfinals in Germany.

Fifa has also contributed $10-million for a new headquarters for the South African Football Association. This serves as an advance payment of the $20-million profit guaranteed to the host federation, Jordaan said.

"We are relaxed," Jordaan told a parliamentary committee debating the legislative framework for 2010. "We should not demoralise ourselves unnecessarily."

South Africa is the first African nation to be awarded the event and says the pride of the whole continent is at stake. Almost on a daily basis the government promotes the World Cup as a catalyst for economic growth.

But already there has been a flurry of speculation that the tournament may be moved, with Australia mentioned as one possible alternative.

Fifa's top official in South Africa, Michael Palmer, dismissed such talk as "nonsense". He said the world soccer body is confident that South Africa will overcome problems associated with the lack of public transport and come up with sufficient accommodation for visitors.

Jordaan said South Africa is more advanced than Germany at a comparable stage in its planning. Germany - which won universal acclaim for organisation of this year's World Cup - completed six stadiums last year and two this year.

Jordaan said South Africa would be "hammered" for finishing stadiums so late.

The government has earmarked about R5-billion for building and renovating 10 stadiums, and a further R8,7-billion on upgrades to airports, roads and railway lines.

Cape Town - South Africa's top tourist destination - only last week gave the go-ahead to a planned semifinal stadium in the city centre, but said the project was subject to a massive cash injection from the central government.

In a sign of the protracted budget wrangles ahead, organising committee members told parliament that they disputed Cape Town's claims that it would need 3.8 billion rand to meet the cost of the new stadium.

With the exception of Cape Town, all the host cities have embraced the World Cup with gusto as a chance to put South Africa - so long synonymous with apartheid - on the world map.

About 350 000 foreign visitors are expected to come for the month-long tournament. On the income side, Jordaan said the tournament should create 129,000 jobs in an economy battered by high unemployment. He said it would lead to an additional R7,2-billion in tax revenues. - Sapa-AP

http://iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=6&click_id=4&art_id=qw1153837082427S163
cape town hasnt embraced the world cup?

SA sees billions of rands spent on World Cup

July 25 2006 at 04:17PM

Cape Town - South Africa will soon begin work on its stadiums for the 2010 World Cup finals and the costs should run to about R6-billion, the head of its local organising committee told parliament on Tuesday.

The tournament is expected to inject billions of rand into Africa's largest economy and create badly-needed jobs in a country with an unemployment rate officially estimated at over 25 percent.

"The World Cup will deliver an overwhelming positive outcome in economic terms," Danny Jordaan said.

Jordaan, speaking to a committee debating a special Sports Measures Bill, said the building of four new stadiums and the refurbishment of a further four would all be under way by January.


He said construction of a new stadium in Port Elizabeth would begin in October, to be followed in November by work on a major revamp of Soccer City, the Johannesburg venue where the 2010 final will be played.

Fifa has allocated the South African local organising committee a budget of R3,2-billion with a quarter of the money already transferred to the country, Jordaan said.

A further $130-million has been given to the South African Football Association by world football's governing body.

Cape Town's new stadium will have a 70 000 capacity with a retractable roof, Jordaan said, and is earmarked to host one of the semifinals.

Soccer City, which already has a capacity of 75 000, would be increased to a new capacity of 104 000. It will host the opening game and the final.

A total of three million tickets will be sold for the 2010 tournament, one third for the South African market, one third for international fans and the other third reserved for marketing partners and Fifa.

Jordaan said South Africa expected 350 000 visitors for the tournament in 2010, way down on the numbers in Germany.

"This is because of our geographical position and the cost of long distance travel," said Jordaan.

Timeline:

July - Demolition of Kings Park Stadium
November - Stadia finances sorted, Construction on PE stadium starts
Nov/Dec - Construction on Senz Stadium starts, Soccer City revamp starts
January - Construction on Cape Town stadium starts.

Hey Mo, wheres that design of CT stadium?

Could you guys please change the red of your signature to one that's not affecting the eyes?..Your posts are interesting but I scroll over it to avoid those big, irritating red signatures. My eyes are fucked up as is! Thanks :)

Vodacom Challenge proves SA is ready for 2010
Published Wednesday, 26-Jul-2006
Written by Offensive Midfielder

The success of the Vodacom Challenge which saw Manchester United facing off against two South African teams, proved the country was ready to host the FIFA 2010 World Cup, the Gauteng provincial government says.

And Premier Mbhazima Shilowa has indicated that in the years leading up to 2010, other top international teams would be brought to the country to play against Kaizer Chiefs and Orlando Pirates to "create a sustainable event that will be recognized on the local and international soccer calendar".

The Gauteng Provincial Government, Vodacom, ABSA, SA Airways, SABC Sport, Daily Sun and Kick-off magazine were responsible for bringing the English Premiership stars to the country to play against Chiefs and Pirates.

The tournament consisted of four matches in one week, all of which took place in the 2010 host cities of Pretoria, Durban, Cape Town and Rustenburg.

Manchester United Coach Sir Alex Ferguson complimented the organisers of the tournament, following his team's 4-3 defeat in the final on penalties to Kaizer Chiefs in Pretoria on Saturday.

"The event was brilliantly organized- the logistics, security and the stadia were all brilliant. I have no doubt in my mind that South Africa will host the most memorable and successful Fifa World Cup come 2010," said Mr Ferguson.

The first match of the tournament was on 15 July at the ABSA Stadium in Durban, where the Red Devils won 4-0 against local giants Orlando Pirates.

At the next match on 18 July, Kaizer Chiefs lost 1-0 to the English side at Newlands Stadium in Cape Town.

The local teams then played against each other at the Royal Bafokeng Sports stadium in Rustenburg with Chiefs earning themselves a place in the final at Loftus Stadium in the capital.

"I must thank Manchester United for coming out to play and to the organizers: the event was well run from Cape Town to Durban to Rustenburg to Tshwane.

"The way the tournament was run, shows that South Africa could put up a good showing in 2010," said Kaizer Chiefs coach Ernst Middendorp on the club's website.

Last week, police spokesperson Vish Naidoo told BuaNews that all security measures put in place at the matches took into account the required safety standards of the 2010 Soccer World Cup.

Before and after each game police held briefings to identify any shortfalls in this regard and discussed how to address them, he said.

While in the country, Manchester United held training camps at various schools and paid a visit to former President Nelson Mandela on his birthday.

-Source BuaNews

http://www.worldcupweb.com/WCfootball/content/show_article.asp?id=1090&cat=15

SA set for 2010 World Cup ticket shock

July 26 2006 at 12:24PM

By Linda Daniels

South Africans rich and poor will find it difficult to get their hands on 2010 soccer World Cup tickets, which will be sold on a first come, first served basis.

MPs were briefed on 2010 progress by the chief executive of the Local Organising Committee (LOC), Danny Jordaan, and Fifa representatives on Tuesday.

MPs quizzed Jordaan's team about the price of the tickets and said the cost might be out of reach for the poor.

'Three million tickets for the entire World Cup and 300 million people who would like to buy them'
Michael Palmer, head of Fifa SA, said it would be those first in the queue who got a seat.

Palmer said tickets would be equally divided among South Africans, the international market and competing teams, sponsors and families of Fifa representatives.

"The issue is about quantity and not about price. There are three million tickets for the entire World Cup and there are 300 million people who would like to buy them," he said.

He said there would be a range of ticket prices and the ticketing sub-committee would make pricing decisions next year.

Jordaan said South Africa was on track for 2010 and was ahead of schedule compared to Germany's progress in this year's event.

He said the 10 World Cup stadiums would be complete before the 2010 event.

"Unfortunately, Germany is not an example we can follow. We'll be hammered if we follow this example of completing six of our stadiums in the year before and two stadiums in the year of the World Cup," said Jordaan.

MPs asked about the cost of the development of the Green Point Stadium.

The LOC's Luyanda Mpahlwa dismissed reports that it would cost R3,8-billion.

"The R3,8bn you had from Cape Town is a cost that included infrastructure costs around the stadium," he said. "The actual cost of the stadium is within the estimations put across and agreed on with the technical team, in the vicinity of R1,6bn."

He said the technical team had not verified the figure.

MPs approved the Section 75 and 76 special measures bills that give effect to the organisation of the World Cup.


This article was originally published on page 4 of Cape Argus on July 26, 2006

http://www.businessday.co.za/articles/topstories.aspx?ID=BD4A240064

I wonder if national govt says that they are only willing to fund R1.2 billion for the CT stadium(R400 m from CT), whether Zille will give the go-ahead for the stadium? She has indicated that they must cover at least R3.5 b before she okays the Greenpoint stadium.

the thing is then if government agrees to totally fund the CT stadium, they will set a precident, and Durban and other cities will ask why they didnt get the same treatment and as such demand it. That could put the government in a tight spot that could lead to alot of conflict. For if u fund Cape Town to stop it falling into debt...what about the small towns like Nelspruit and Polokwane? why should they have to spend all their money? its a bad situation to place government in...i think serious talks are needed between them and CT, cos trouble is looming.

the thing is then if government agrees to totally fund the CT stadium, they will set a precident, and Durban and other cities will ask why they didnt get the same treatment and as such demand it. That could put the government in a tight spot that could lead to alot of conflict. For if u fund Cape Town to stop it falling into debt...what about the small towns like Nelspruit and Polokwane? why should they have to spend all their money? its a bad situation to place government in...i think serious talks are needed between them and CT, cos trouble is looming.
the govt wont be paying 3.8 billion for cape towns stadium..if cape town cant afford 2 billion towards a stadium surely durban can't either. 400 million is pushing it though...zille is basically not giving any money away...

FIFA Defends S Africa for Soccer

Cape Town, 26 Jul (Prensa Latina) Fifa's World Cup office representative in South Africa, Michael Palmer, said the soccer body was now ready to confront the "pessimists" who believed South Africa was not capable of hosting a successful tournament.

"Our policy has always been that we don't comment on issues pertaining to a future tournament when there is another event in progress. Now that the Germany World Cup event is over, we are ready to respond to pessimists over South Africa in 2010," said Palmer.

Addressing the Joint Committee of the National Assembly and National Council of Provinces during the Special Measures Bill hearings at Parliament on Tuesday, Fifa´s representative dismissed recent media reports suggesting that Fifa was on the verge of moving the 2010 soccer World Cup tournament to Australia.

According to South Africa News Agency Buanews, Palmer stessed that if the people behind the reports bothered to conduct basic research on that possibility, they would have easily realized that such a decision would have been impractical.

"How can you expect a country such as Australia, which happens to not be a soccer country, to prepare for an event such as the soccer World Cup in a space of less than four years?" he asked.

I keep reading about Zille and Rasool demanding funding what's the deal with that lately?

I keep reading about Zille and Rasool demanding funding what's the deal with that lately?
the city isnt prepared to cut back on service delivery.....cape town can certainly afford more than 400 million....400 million a year is more like it...that shud contribute about half to the stadium

I hope we dont get a mad tickets rush! I want to go to at least 3 games of the world cup! & I hope the fat cats dont eat the tickets for them selves & their family's!

World Cup in SA hmmmm..... I was happy at first, worried second and am currently faithless. People all over the world are worried about this tournament and world cup devotees are already turning their backs on the next tournament. The recent muggings and long spate of rich foreigner targeted crimes have not helped matters. This is about more than just the stadiums and accommodation.....where is the security and people management logistics development? While this is about soccer its also about people and their lives. Should something seriously bad happen to a foreigner it would put a serious dent in South Africa's already dented reputation as a tourist destination.

World Cup in SA hmmmm..... I was happy at first, worried second and am currently faithless. People all over the world are worried about this tournament and world cup devotees are already turning their backs on the next tournament. The recent muggings and long spate of rich foreigner targeted crimes have not helped matters. This is about more than just the stadiums and accommodation.....where is the security and people management logistics development? While this is about soccer its also about people and their lives. Should something seriously bad happen to a foreigner it would put a serious dent in South Africa's already dented reputation as a tourist destination.
dented but far from collapsed...tourism figures continue to rise.welcome to the forums.

True, & as in todays papers, when a tourist visits our country, they have to get extra travel incurance cause our crime status :crazy: It is a major factor halo (by the way welcome) but as Mo said, they are still flocking to our country, prob 1/50 tourist experience our crime, thats not good, none of our tourist should have that,but for eg: if you got to the USA, & if you walk around brooklyn with your camera & money, you are going to get robbed & hurt, so you have to stay away from those area's same go's for our country, there are certain no go area's for tourists, so thats how it is.

i think hotels need to play a bigger role in informing visitors where it is safe to walk and where is not. Those people that got mugged in point road coudl have avoided it if they had been told to.

True, & as in todays papers, when a tourist visits our country, they have to get extra travel incurance cause our crime status :crazy: It is a major factor halo (by the way welcome) but as Mo said, they are still flocking to our country, prob 1/50 tourist experience our crime, thats not good, none of our tourist should have that,but for eg: if you got to the USA, & if you walk around brooklyn with your camera & money, you are going to get robbed & hurt, so you have to stay away from those area's same go's for our country, there are certain no go area's for tourists, so thats how it is.
warning dont take the wrong train in new york and end up in the bronx.

WE GOTSA COACH

Parreira named new Bafana coach
Carlos Alberto Parreira, the new Bafana Bafana coach

Carlos Alberto Parreira, the new Bafana Bafana coach
July 29, 2006, 07:00

The search for the Bafana Bafana coach is over. Carlos Alberto Parreira, a Brazilian, is the man who will lead Bafana into the future. The good news was confirmed by Molefi Oliphant, the South African Football Association (Safa) president at a gala dinner in Cape Town last night.

Parreira resigned as head coach of Brazil after they were knocked out in the quarter finals at the recent World Cup in Germany. Parreira resigned as head coach of Brazil after they were knocked out in the quarter finals at the recent World Cup in Germany.

It is alleged that Safa had reportedly offered to pay the Brazilian in excess of R1 million a month as they pursued an urgent quest to obtain a world class coach for the 2010 World Cup.

Parreira is expected to arrive in Johannesburg in the next two weeks.

a million a month, shit thats like Durbsboi

Its a joke...they need to change the SAFA structure, not spend a R1m a month on a coach that wont solve the problem in SA soccer

a million a month, shit thats like Durbsboi
Hey dont be broadcasting my salary around! :scouserd:

I meant monopoly money!!!!!!

I'm surprised no one from CT has posted this, esp Mo.

Mo, where's the posting of this design?? You're the man designated for this task.


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Cape stadium design unveiled
Igsaan Salie
July 29 2006 at 05:14PM

The City of Cape Town has released the first artist's impressions of what the proposed multibillion rand 2010 World Cup stadium in Green Point will look like.

The images are the first public sighting of the concept design for the stadium. Standing almost 40m high and with a 5.3 hectare footprint, the stadium will change the Green Point landscape considerably.

The design is for a massive all-weather structure that will occupy the existing stadium site.

The inside of the stadium is divided into three tiers of seating accommodating the 68 000-capacity crowd. However, after the World Cup, the plan is to reduce the capacity to 55 000 by removing the upper tier.




'Rough preliminary drawings'
The area occupied by the third tier will be converted into a conference and reception venue. City mayor Helen Zille's spokesperson Robert MacDonald, said that the drawings were preliminary and the architects were still busy with the details of the plan and design of the stadium.

"This is really just a sketch to give the idea of the scale and size of stadium and how it fits into the surroundings."

He said that the more detailed architectural drawing and the business plan would be handed over to the national treasury for budget cost considerations later this year.

Construction of the stadium is expected to start at the beginning of next year in order to be completed in time for the Fifa inspection in 2008. The city is in the process of bidding for both the opening match of the prestigious event as well as securing a semi-final game.

The artist's impressions released on Friday are the "rough preliminary drawings" used by the researchers conducting the Environmental Impact Assessment.

Their study looked at the two proposed sites for the stadium - one using a portion of the Metropolitan Golf Course and the other placing the stadium where the existing stadium is.

The stadium has been at the centre of much controversy and political squabbling in recent months with Zille initially stopping the process soon after taking office in March to ascertain where the funding for the stadium would come from.

Despite earlier indications that the stadium would cost in the region of R1.4 billion the city's financial study found the cost would be closer to between R3-billion and R4-billion.


On Friday the city said it was calling for public comment regarding the rezoning of portions of the Green Point common to accommodate the stadium development.

Key aspects of the rezoning proposals will be presented at a public meeting together with the Draft Environmental Report findings on August 7 at the Sea Point Civic Centre.

The rezoning report will be available for inspection at the Land Use Management Counter on the 14th Floor of the Cape Town Civic Centre, at City libraries and on the city's website www.capetown.gov.za from Tuesday.

igsaans@incape.co.za


This article was originally published on page 1 of Cape Argus on July 29, 2006

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=594&art_id=vn20060729085448828C829530

Posted to the web on: 31 July 2006
World Cup to get R3bn more cash
Khulu Phasiwe

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Public Policy Correspondent

PREPARATIONS to host the 2010 Soccer World Cup got a major boost yesterday when government announced an additional R3bn cash injection to improve public transport infrastructure.

The cash boost is in addition to the R3,5bn announced in February this year by Finance Minister Trevor Manuel during his budget speech.

Manuel said then that of the R8,5bn capital expenditure that the national treasury had allocated for the soccer tournament, about R5bn would go towards upgrading existing soccer stadiums and building new ones, while the remainder would be used to upgrade roads and for rail infrastructure.

The new cash injection was announced yesterday by President Thabo Mbeki at a media briefing following a cabinet lekgotla in Pretoria.

“We want an affordable public transport system,” Mbeki said.

The extra R3bn would be used to improve passenger rail services and expand the country’s road network, said Joel Netshitenzhe, head of policy in the Presidency.




Mbeki said that plans for the 2010 tournament were on track. He said a number of cabinet ministers were serving on the local organising committee.

“In addition , there is an inter-ministerial committee with about 17 ministers that is also focused on this, so that we are able to take care of all elements... transport, security, finance and so on.”

The Presidency would also hold a monthly meeting with ministers involved with 2010 “so that we are in a position at all times to respond immediately to whatever problems might arise”.

The six-week soccer tournament would be held in 10 stadiums. Government and Fifa had agreed on refurbishing five existing stadiums and building five new ones for the event.

The five new soccer venues will be: at the site of the existing King’s Park stadium in Durban, at Polokwane in Limpopo province, Mbombela in Mpumalanga, at the site of the existing Greenpoint stadium in Cape Town, and in the Nelson Mandela Municipality in Port Elizabeth.

The five that will be refurbished and upgraded will be Johannesburg’s Soccer City and Ellis Park stadiums, Pretoria’s Loftus Versveld, North West’s Royal Bafokeng and Vodacom Park in Bloemfontein. With Bloomberg, Sapa

http://www.businessday.co.za/articles/topstories.aspx?ID=BD4A242503

Germany | 28.07.2006
German Architects Design World Cup Stadiums in South Africa

Just weeks after the close of the 2006 World Cup, a German architecture firm is working hard to remodel three South African stadiums in time for the next soccer world championship in 2010.

Designing a professional soccer stadium must be an architect's dream project. For those at the acclaimed architecture firm Gerkan, Marg and Partners (gmp), the dream has come true yet again -- this time in South Africa.

Berlin architects Meinhard von Gerkan, Volkwin Marg and their colleagues were commissioned to build three of the five new stadiums planned for the 2010 World Cup soccer championship in South Africa. They introduced their plans recently, just weeks after the conclusion of the 2006 World Cup in Germany.


"It even surprised us," said architect Hubert Nienhoff from gmp, whose firm has been working on stadiums in Cape Town, Durban and Port Elizabeth.


An arch for the Durban skyline


Gerkan, Marg and Partners also rebuilt stadiums in Frankfurt, Cologne and Berlin in preparation for this year's World Cup. They're not novices and it shows.

It was the creative touch of Nienhoff's team that won his firm the contract in South Africa. The arch they plan to span across the top of the Durban stadium will not only protect spectators from sun and rain without obstructing the view, it will also spectacularly enhance the city's skyline.

Organizers wanted "to put Durban on the map" with the new stadium construction, said Nienhoff, which is largely why his team's unique design was selected.

Short on time and money

The remodeling of Berlin's Olympic Stadium is on the firm's impressive resume
Though the three new South African stadiums are meant to outlive the 2010 World Cup and make a lasting impact on the respective cities, the budget for their remodeling is relatively low compared to similar projects in other countries.

Only a quarter of the funds invested in the remodeling of the Olympic Stadium in Berlin has been budgeted for the updated Port Elizabeth stadium, for example.

Money, however, is less problematic than time.

"The decision to start with the construction of the stadiums now is actually too late for us Germans," Nienhoff said.

It's no secret that the South African's have a different relationship with time than the Germans do. International soccer association FIFA allegedly discussed behind closed doors the possibility of pulling the 2010 championship from South Africa due to the country's less than timely preparation schedule.

Up for the challenge

Germans have a hand in the next World Cup

"One thing is for sure: The South Africans are incredibly proud of their country and aren't going to let anyone doubt that they can pull it off," Nienhoff said.

Despite the difficulties that inevitably accompany a project of this magnitude, Nienhoff is confident of success. His hope is that people will enjoy coming to the three new stadiums and that the German architecture will touch other parts of Africa too.

http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,2112453,00.html

I'm surprised no one from CT has posted this, esp Mo.

Mo, where's the posting of this design?? You're the man designated for this task.


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Cape stadium design unveiled
Igsaan Salie
July 29 2006 at 05:14PM

The City of Cape Town has released the first artist's impressions of what the proposed multibillion rand 2010 World Cup stadium in Green Point will look like.

The images are the first public sighting of the concept design for the stadium. Standing almost 40m high and with a 5.3 hectare footprint, the stadium will change the Green Point landscape considerably.

The design is for a massive all-weather structure that will occupy the existing stadium site.

The inside of the stadium is divided into three tiers of seating accommodating the 68 000-capacity crowd. However, after the World Cup, the plan is to reduce the capacity to 55 000 by removing the upper tier.




'Rough preliminary drawings'
The area occupied by the third tier will be converted into a conference and reception venue. City mayor Helen Zille's spokesperson Robert MacDonald, said that the drawings were preliminary and the architects were still busy with the details of the plan and design of the stadium.

"This is really just a sketch to give the idea of the scale and size of stadium and how it fits into the surroundings."

He said that the more detailed architectural drawing and the business plan would be handed over to the national treasury for budget cost considerations later this year.

Construction of the stadium is expected to start at the beginning of next year in order to be completed in time for the Fifa inspection in 2008. The city is in the process of bidding for both the opening match of the prestigious event as well as securing a semi-final game.

The artist's impressions released on Friday are the "rough preliminary drawings" used by the researchers conducting the Environmental Impact Assessment.

Their study looked at the two proposed sites for the stadium - one using a portion of the Metropolitan Golf Course and the other placing the stadium where the existing stadium is.

The stadium has been at the centre of much controversy and political squabbling in recent months with Zille initially stopping the process soon after taking office in March to ascertain where the funding for the stadium would come from.

Despite earlier indications that the stadium would cost in the region of R1.4 billion the city's financial study found the cost would be closer to between R3-billion and R4-billion.


On Friday the city said it was calling for public comment regarding the rezoning of portions of the Green Point common to accommodate the stadium development.

Key aspects of the rezoning proposals will be presented at a public meeting together with the Draft Environmental Report findings on August 7 at the Sea Point Civic Centre.

The rezoning report will be available for inspection at the Land Use Management Counter on the 14th Floor of the Cape Town Civic Centre, at City libraries and on the city's website www.capetown.gov.za from Tuesday.

igsaans@incape.co.za


This article was originally published on page 1 of Cape Argus on July 29, 2006

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=594&art_id=vn20060729085448828C829530

sorry was too lazy..weekend was busy and a bit of a blur.

these images just indicate the location of the two sites...but the existing stadium site has already been chosen..i think my impressions are much better than these shitty pics..

http://img310.imageshack.us/img310/2494/capetownstadiumproposalkn0.jpg

http://img336.imageshack.us/img336/8623/capetownstadiumproposal2qt6.jpg

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/2972/ct2010stadium5pu7.jpg


http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/4633/ct2010stadium2wr2.jpg


http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/1021/ct2010stadium3ae5.jpg

http://img288.imageshack.us/img288/9246/ct2010stadium4vr9.jpg

Homeless Cup countdown kicks off

July 31, 2006

Lucas Radebe, Mark Williams, Mark Fish and Robbie Fleck were among the sport celebrities who came out to play this weekend to beging the countdown to the Homeless World Cup Cape Town 2006 tournament.

Nine weeks remain before the main event kicks off on the Grand Parade.

At the gala event on Saturday night, premier Ebrahim Rasool made an impassioned appeal for Capetonians to embrace the homeless world cup with the same commitment as the 2010 World Cup.

He said homelessness was one of Cape Town's biggest challenges, and one of the greatest obstacles to social development.

"Poverty, homelessness, unemployment are often accompanied by exclusion and marginalisation," he said, adding that this event was a bold attempt at inclusion, and a bid to eradicate homelessness.

Urging Capetonians to support efforts such as the Big Issue and the tournament, he told guests it was an "investment in a prosperous future; if not as an act of kindness, then out of self-interest".

Rasool said he had secured R500 000 from the national Department of Sport while he was attending the Cabinet lekgotla last week. he challenged provincial authorities to match this amount.


Guests at the Arabella Sheraton Hotel were introduced to nine members of the SA Homeless World Cup Squad, Bafo Wethu, and some dug deep into their pockets during the auction of soccer memorabilia.

Organisers estimated that at least R310 000 was raised.

A CBF soccer shirt signed by international soccer star Ronaldinho and items signed by Fish, Williams and Radebe were auctioned off.
An original artwork done by a former Big Issue vendor Ntsikelelo Fiyane was bought by Absa for R20 000.

The image will be printed on 3 000 special-edition Nike t-shirts to be sold as souvenirs at the tournament. Soccer celebrities Radebe and Fish also donated R10 000 to Fiyane.

This year's tournament - set to run from September 24 to 30 - is set to double in size with 48 teams participating "with one goal - to kick off poverty", said Cup president Mel Young.

those pics dont seem to show a closing roof?

also....building stadia with closing roofs take FAR longer than ones without...how they gonna manage it? the roof alone on Cardiff took many many months longer than the stadium

LOL introducing the homeless world cup at the sheraton...so they gonna put them up for a week then toss them back on the street? lol

those pics dont seem to show a closing roof?

also....building stadia with closing roofs take FAR longer than ones without...how they gonna manage it? the roof alone on Cardiff took many many months longer than the stadium

September 1997 - Redevolpment begins on the millenium stadium
June 1999 - Stadium officially opened
October 1999 - Hosts the opening ceremony to the 1999 Rugby World Cup.

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http://www.sportsvenue-technology.com/projects/cardiff/images/millennium_stadium6.jpg
http://www.sportsvenue-technology.com/projects/cardiff/images/millennium_stadium1.jpg
http://www.sportsvenue-technology.com/projects/cardiff/images/millennium_stadium2.jpg

LOL introducing the homeless world cup at the sheraton...so they gonna put them up for a week then toss them back on the street? lol
no...the aim is to get them off the streets...the launch was at the sheraton or something like that...pretty decent sponsorship has been gained...

sweden, scotland have hosted before...south africa this year...denmark next year and oz in 2008.

^^& how do they expect them to "get off the streets" by putting them in the sheraton for a few days?

Cardiff is still a kick ass stadium! "13 August! Judgement Day @ Cardiff!"

& those pics that you got of CT stadium location, looks like a toilet bowl lying in a grass field :D

^^& how do they expect them to "get off the streets" by putting them in the sheraton for a few days?

Cardiff is still a kick ass stadium! "13 August! Judgement Day @ Cardiff!"

& those pics that you got of CT stadium location, looks like a toilet bowl lying in a grass field :D
please dont even start regarding the homeless world cup...if the event was to be held in durban ur attitude would have been very different. so rather not.

Thanks for posting the renders, Mo. Although it's just a provisional render and subject to change, it's not a very flattering design. Durbsboi is right in his description. It also reminds me of Zulu wire baskets they sell on the Durbs beachfront (es pics 2, 3, 4). I hope it undergoes a RADICAL overhaul, although the more radical and fancy the overhaul, the more it's going to cost. Zille and the national govt won't be too happy about that. Worst case scenario (although I hope not) is that you guys might end up with a lame-looking new stadium or no new stadium at all (if the cost is too high).

Thanks for posting the renders, Mo. Although it's just a provisional render and subject to change, it's not a very flattering design. Durbsboi is right in his description. It also reminds me of Zulu wire baskets they sell on the Durbs beachfront (es pics 2, 3, 4). I hope it undergoes a RADICAL overhaul, although the more radical and fancy the overhaul, the more it's going to cost. Zille and the national govt won't be too happy about that. Worst case scenario (although I hope not) is that you guys might end up with a lame-looking new stadium or no new stadium at all (if the cost is too high).

its not a render..not a provisional render..not a design...its a shape. used in the public comment document regarding the two stadium sites. its not going under any radical overhaul because its not the design. nor is it supposed to reflect the stadium. the image does not relate to the article regarding the stadium design being unveiled. the image is part of the EIA study, just like a shape is part of the aerial site plan.

please dont even start regarding the homeless world cup...if the event was to be held in durban ur attitude would have been very different. so rather not.
:rofl: No it wouldnt, I would stil lhave the same stupid comments :crazy:

what are the plans for the park around it? the common round there could do with a clean up. It could look sooooo good with some TLC and an overhaul. Perhaps some restaurants around a lake or something?

what are the plans for the park around it? the common round there could do with a clean up. It could look sooooo good with some TLC and an overhaul. Perhaps some restaurants around a lake or something?
im not sure...have a look at the documents at www.enviropartnership.co.za under the link "projects". or ill just post the recommendation regarding the urban park from the documents. From what i've read they explicitly state that the urban park should NOT just be the backyard of the new stadium. Pathways..trees..IMO this is where experience from the success of kirstenbosch should be used..especially..the planners and landscape designers...of course not on the same scale or the same "feel"..but it def shud include restaurants and wide walkways...and perhaps decent water features..and maybe a large statue of madiba...and a fountain that looks like zuma. :) vagrants who wud roam the area get gardening jobs...and are placed in shelters..

What a good heart you have Mo. What a gentle boy you are!

well...i look forward to some real news...and look after those homeless, but be nice when u tell them that they have to eventually leave the sheraton for the street. its rather nasty to dangle the carrot infront of them for a few days then toss them...not blaming CT, but the competition

Things are rather quiet about 2010 now? or is it just me?

Would be nice if there was an official website that was frequently updated...

^^I know, I thought Ibola Lethu would have had a website up by now about the Senz Stadium, or even SAFA sould have their own 2010 website, the FIFA website is not updated, they still got the same shit there, since we won the bid

Fifa demands worry host cities

By Carvin Goldstone

World Cup 2010 host cities, including Durban, may be unable to fulfil some of their core promises to Fifa if a number of concerns with the World Cup Special Measures Bill, which has passed through the cabinet, are not addressed soon.

The Bill was made available at a public hearing at the Durban Exhibition Centre on Wednesday by the provincial portfolio committee for sports and recreation.

An eThekwini Municipality team, which included City Manager Mike Sutcliffe and Legal Services head Nokhana Moerane, attended the hearings and both raised concerns over the legal competencies, the fast-tracking of stadium construction and the closing of private business during the world cup.

If these issues were not addressed timeously, they would be likely to impact negatively on the city's ability to host a successful world cup.

They were also required to sign stadium-use agreements
Durban and the other host cities - Cape Town, Port Elizabeth, Polokwane, Nelspruit, Klerksdorp, Rustenburg, Bloemfontein, Johannesburg, Pretoria and Kimberley - signed Fifa's Host Cities Agreement in February. They were also required to sign stadium-use agreements.

When the agreement was announced, only certain Fifa requirements were published in the media. At Wednesday's hearing, however, it emerged that city managers had signed the agreements knowing that there were certain promises they could not uphold without special legislation.

Moerane said they had been put in a "take it or leave it" situation.

City managers had signed the agreement provided that three amendments were made to the preamble. These were that the government agreed to support the host cities in executing their world cup obligations, that it signed an agreement for special legislation to be passed to enable the cities to execute the duties under the agreement, and the indemnification of host cities.

However, Sutcliffe said these issues had not been included and that the South African Local Government Association had not been consulted in drafting the Bill.

The city was also concerned that it did not have the power to close businesses
Under the agreement Durban had committed itself to executing functions which fell outside its local government competencies. These included confiscating material which infringed on Fifa's marketing rights, closing private businesses within a certain perimeter of the stadium on match days, regulating the airport and implementing policing.

Sutcliffe said policing was an obvious area of concern because it was a national competency.

The city was also concerned that it did not have the power to close businesses in the vicinity of the world cup precinct.

In addition, the airport is a private entity operated by the Airports Company of South Africa and over which the city has no control.

The city was also put at risk by having to indemnify Fifa against any claims resulting from the world cup being staged in the city.

The city is also to required to ensure that no private advertising takes place within certain areas, that certain pubs and restaurants stay open on a 24-hour basis and that no construction takes place in the vicinity of the competition.

Moerana believes that some of these conditions would simply be impossible to fulfil.

Sutcliffe said he had been told that the concerns could be addressed in an amendment to the Bill.

The chairperson of the provincial portfolio committee for sports and recreation, Paulos Ngcobo, said he had heard some of the concerns raised by Sutcliffe for the first time on Wednesday and added that all were important.

"These issues are important because the games will take place in Durban and whatever concerns they have we have to take on board because they are going to affect us."

He was also perturbed by Sutcliffe's concerns over the slow pace of the Environmental Impact Assessment process.

"If we follow the process as it should be implemented, then some stadiums will only be finished after the world cup.

"We are not here to kill our own companies, but we need to find a balance between the needs of Fifa and our needs, because we cannot have business closing," he said.

fucink FIFA is like a neo nazi republican fuck you. seems onerous the conditions they empose. Iif I was a small business being told to close on match day id say see you in constitutional court and win with costs and punitif damages.
FIFA is the most corupt thing in the world after the IOC

fucink FIFA is like a neo nazi republican fuck you. seems onerous the conditions they empose. Iif I was a small business being told to close on match day id say see you in constitutional court and win with costs and punitif damages.
FIFA is the most corupt thing in the world after the IOC
On the one hand SAFA and the LOC knew very well the restrictions and rules set out by FIFA. The same applied to germany. Once you sign a contract, thats it. This is FIFA's World Cup....but being hosted in South Africa. I'm not outraged by their rules, but i do hope they work with FIFA to fine tune some of the rules and perhaps make ammendments where necessary.

Stadium to boost Green Point property price

By John Yeld

The planned 2010 Soccer World Cup stadium will have a "medium" positive impact on property prices in the Green Point/Mouille Point area - if it is built on the existing stadium site and if mitigation measures are applied.

There would be a "low to medium" positive impact on property prices if the alternative Metropolitan golf course site was chosen, but the site has already been rejected by the authorities.

According to the recent specialist economic study by independent economic researcher Hugo van Zyl and Anthony Leiman of UCT's School of Economics, there may, however, be some short-term decreases in property values and/or a slow-down in property sales in the area.

This would be because of the 24-month-plus construction period and uncertainty over the final plan for the new stadium and the Green Point Common, irrespective of which site was chosen.

Environmental impact assessment
The study was part of the environmental impact assessment (EIA) process for the planned stadium.

The researchers interviewed eight agents from two property agencies in Green Point and Mouille Point.

"The dominant view was that, if done properly, the improved amenity associated with the stadium, the proposed elements of the stadium precinct, the urban park (on the Common) and the Granger Bay Boulevard would outweigh any potential increases in negative impacts, for example, visual, noise and traffic, associated with the existing situation," said the researchers.

They found that the planned stadium had a negative net present value of between R2.4 billion and R2,6-billion, calculated on a base revenue scenario.

"These amounts represent the present value of the approximate level of subsidy that would be required from government - local, provincial and national - and/or business in order to achieve minimum financial viability, that is break even.

'Low revenue scenario'
"The displacement of events away from the existing venues in Cape Town increases this amount slightly, as does using a low revenue scenario."

The researchers calculated that ongoing operational costs would be covered by operational revenues for all the available scenarios.

"A further hypothetical scenario, in which Newlands is closed down and Western Province Rugby moves to Green Point, would improve the net present value of the stadium by approximately R1-billion, based on preliminary estimates for this scenario in the draft business plan."
The stadium's construction would be a "highly significant" economic stimulus, said the researchers.

Direct and indirect employment as a result of the construction would be "highly significant", with 3 600 direct jobs and 920 temporary jobs from 2007 to 2009.

Van Zyl and Leiman said the number of jobs would gradually decline in 2009.

They also pointed out that most stadiums needed some level of subsidy to operate, and stadium construction projects seemed "particularly vulnerable" to cost over-runs: "The established economic benefits associated with stadiums have also often been found to be lower than expectations.

"We wish to emphasise that this does not mean the proposed Green Point stadium will also fail to deliver net benefits...

"However, it does indicate that a cautious approach to economic valuation is required."

# A public meeting on the stadium will be held at the Sea Point Civic Centre on Monday. The meeting will start with an "open house" from 4pm to 6pm, where project information will be displayed, followed by formal presentations and a question-and-answer session at 6pm.

i dont see how it will boost prices

i dont see how it will boost prices
unfortunately u dont see many things.

and you are blinded too, simply for your love of stadia and olympics at all cost...

however if you think that a stadium next to multi million rand apartments will raise their value then you are simply believing the hype and shit being thrown up by the developers, for who would want to live with a stadium towering over/next to them?

not me and harking back to the FIFA rules its bullshit with those anit competitive rules being imposed. Its a case of fucked if you do, fucked if you dont. No contract no world cup, signed contract , see you in court. FIF rules will not override peoples rights.
on the greenpoint thing, its a joke building the stadium there. I mean who will use it post world cup? its not like its in the centre of CT and therefore has a large demographic appeal and capture market. In Greenpoint 99.9% of users will have to travel there from miles away as I dont think the little old jewish ladies on seapoint beachfront will be there watching their favourte team(if any) that will be beased there.
Another great fuck up by people who dont seem to be able to see past their own self intrest.
If you did a real world feasabilty report and investment model on this , you would stiop after page 1 cos this is not a viable place to buoild a world class stadium.
Over to you mo!!!!

Free World Cup Tickets for the Poor: Fifa's Plan to Fill Seats in South Africa
Soccer: Poor people in South Africa will receive free or very cheap tickets to World Cup matches when the tournament is held there in 2010.
Poor people in South Africa will receive free or very cheap tickets to World Cup matches when the tournament is held there in 2010. Fifa, football's world governing body, is drawing up plans to ensure that ordinary people can experience at first hand an event that many could otherwise not afford to attend.

'We are talking about either giving away some tickets to the local population, which could come from our sponsors' allocation of seats, or having very, very cheap prices for South Africans. Something along these lines will definitely happen,' said a Fifa official. 'We are determined to find ways of ensuring that the host population are not excluded from this huge event on their doorsteps.'

The average income per head in South Africa is £2,600 a year, according to the World Bank. But tickets at this summer's World Cup in Germany cost from £25 to £300; few of the football-mad black population could afford to see matches in 2010 at such prices.

Fifa is worried that, unless action is taken, matches could be played in half-empty stadiums, which would damage the atmosphere and create a negative impression of the tournament among billions of TV viewers.

'The World Cup is moving from a rich, European country ... to a country that's quite poor and will not attract as many foreign fans as Germany because of its location. So ticketing is a real challenge. We'll have a unique solution to a unique situation,' said the Fifa source.

The exact number of free or cut-price tickets, and the best way to distribute them, has yet to be worked out by a ticketing committee that Fifa is setting up. But the principle of poor locals receiving preferential treatment has been agreed by Fifa bosses and endorsed by the organisation's president, Sepp Blatter, who campaigned hard for football's biggest showpiece to be staged in Africa for the first time.

/24-7PressRelease/ - SOUTH AFRICA, August 06, 2006 - With temperatures falling below zero degrees celsius in many of South Africa's stadia locations for the FIFA World Cup(TM) 2010, leading soccer analysts are calling for a rethink on the timing of the world's biggest sporting event.

Says Dr Nikolaus Eberl, Author of 'The IziCwe Code: Disruptive Innovation': "The 2006 World Cup held in Germany has shifted the experience of soccer from the stadia to the after-game party events where international visitors are now expecting the very best in terms of entertainment for many hours after the game hgas ended. In Germany, this was borne out by the concept of the Fan Feste, the fan festivals which attracted hundreds of thousands of visitors and were considered the highlights of the world cup. To hold fan festivals in the South African winter, with temperatures falling below zero degrees celsius and the prospect of cold rains and shivery winds, is putting up a huge gamble. FIFA should consider moving the 2010 world cup to December when the bulk of soccer aficionados are escaping the European / American winter and have nearly double the spending power, due to the bonus payments and saving habits of corporate employees in industrialized countries. This would boost visitor levels and have a tremendous impact on the South African hospitality industry."

Dr Nikolaus recently introduced a revolutionary innovation model, called The IziCwe Code, at the Global Leaders Africa Summit in Johannesburg, sharing the stage with world renowned leadership gurus Tom Peters, Rudy Giuliani and Michael Porter. Based upon the innovation strategies of the legendary Zulu King Shaka, The IziCwe Code is about inspiring employees to question the tried and tested and search for new ways to deliver world-class service. In anticipation of the FIFA World Cup in 2010, large South African organisations are calling upon The IziCwe Code to engage their employees in Iklwa Innovation (so called after the revolutionary new weapon introduced by Emperor Shaka) and align employee commitment to President Mbeki's 2010 Promise.

Dr Nikolaus and co-author Herman Schoonbee published "The IziCwe Code: Internal Branding" in 2005 (Academy Press, foreword by Reuel Khoza), which was recently critically reviewed by President Thabo Mbeki in his Letter from the President; using "the analytical tools contained in The IziCwe Code", the President issued the challenge to government leaders to "generate the kind of commitment that will ensure that ...our government at all levels ... can be trusted to honour the brand promise!"

So will they give some free tickets & skin the other people alive on the other tickets to cover up for the free ones? remember the ticket prices @ germany ranged from R330 to R5000 for a single ticket!

Time enough for SA's World Cup

Michael Atkins | Berlin, Germany

07 August 2006 09:00

Work on three of South Africa's new stadiums for the 2010 soccer World Cup can be completed in three years, though such a tight timetable would not have been feasible in bureaucratic Germany, says a German architect involved in the project.

Hubert Nienhoff, a leading Berlin architect who has helped to design stadiums for Cape Town, Durban and Port Elizabeth, said planning so late would have been impossible in highly regulated Germany but there was still enough time for South Africa.

"The decision to begin construction now is actually too late for us Germans," said Nienhoff, referring to his country's web of rules that give a wide range of agencies and the public the right to inspect and challenge any significant building project.

Nienhoff said the renovation work on Germany's 12 World Cup stadiums for this year's finals had to be planned much further in advance to meet the strict requirements.

"By 1999, we were already planning for the Olympic Stadium. That's seven years before the event took place," he told journalists in Berlin recently.

South Africa will also have a smaller budget than Germany for its World Cup, the first to be held in Africa.

The South Africa organising committee has said that the total stadium costs will be about R6-billion ($858-million). Germany spent €1,5-billion ($1,92-billion) for building or upgrading its 12 stadiums.

South Africa's budget covers the costs for 10 new and existing venues in nine host cities. The opening match and final have been set for Johannesburg's Soccer City, which will seat 104 000 after renovations.

Nienhoff, a partner at Germany's leading Gerkan, Marg and Partner architecture firm, said the three stadiums designed by his company would be finished a year ahead of time in 2009 and would be unlike any others in World Cup history.

"I'm extremely impressed with South Africa -- with the beautiful landscape as well as the people. Our partners there are very goal-oriented and determined," he said.

The firm won widespread acclaim for its work on German World Cup stadiums in Cologne, Frankfurt and Berlin. It also designed Berlin's new glass-domed central train station.

"I think one could say the stadiums in Germany are state-of-the-art and they have set the latest standard," Nienhoff said.

Nienhoff said GMP had been working closely with African artists and planners to ensure that the new stadiums reflected the region's culture.

Of the three they have designed, the 85 000-seat King's Park Stadium in coastal Durban, a popular tourist destination, will be the largest.

The three-tier Durban stadium will be patterned after the South African flag, with two overhead arches -- fused together at one end -- spanning the length of the arena.

A skywalk is planned for the arches and the building is designed to withstand strong winds off the nearby Indian Ocean.

"We feel fortunate to have got such a perfect location in Durban and it is important that the stadium stands out from the city skyline," Nienhoff said.

SA's decrepit public transport system
The Durban stadium would belie fears of inadequate transport links, he said, with access to a motorway and a railway station.

South African President Thabo Mbeki last month announced a R3-billion ($432-million) spending programme to upgrade the country's decrepit public transport system.

In Port Elizabeth, Nelson Mandela Bay Arena will be built near the North End Lake and will seat 40 000.

The new arena in Cape Town will seat 70 000 and will have a retractable roof. It has already been earmarked to host one of the semifinals.

Local municipalities will pay R491-million (€56-million) for the new arena in Port Elizabeth and roughly R1,4-billion (€170-million) each for the new projects in Cape Town and Durban.

By comparison, GMP restorations to Berlin's Olympic Stadium, the site of this year's final, cost €250-million.

Nienhoff said the new stadiums would be multi-functional and not soccer-specific, in accordance with South African officials' hopes of one day hosting other major sporting events such as the Commonwealth Games or Olympics. - Reuters

http://www.mg.co.za/articlePage.aspx?articleid=279961&area=/breaking_news/breaking_news__sport/

so durban is 85k?

so durban is 85k?
i think the capacities are not close to being finalised...actual world cup capacity and actual capacity will differ i think...while the durban stadium would prob have the capacity to go up to 85k...a world cup capacity of 70,000+ would be used...

the 104,000 seats for soccer city possibly include all VIp's media areas etc...95,000 would prob the the actual world cup capacity...e.g. while allianz arean can seat up to 69,900 give or take..the actual world cup capacity taking into account FIFA and UEFA regulations is 66,000

FIFA HQ nears completion
SA headquarters for Fifa near completion
Cape Town, South Africa
08 August 2006 08:40

The new headquarters for the 2010 Fifa Soccer World Cup will be completed and fully operational by the end of October, the South African government news agency, BuaNews, reported on Monday.

This comes just 11 months after South African President Thabo Mbeki and Fifa president Sepp Blatter held a sod-turning ceremony at what is to be the South African Football Association's (Safa) new home.

Safa House, as it will be known, will become the central nerve centre of the 2010 World Cup, hosting operations for Fifa, the world football governing body, and the South African local organising committee.

It is envisaged that it will house 250 staff. Construction began in November last year at Soccer City, Nasrec, Johannesburg. The new building will be 5 000 square metres in size, topped off by a dome measuring 16m across.

Fifa was reported as saying the headquarters would feature a "breathtaking" triple volume entrance with a museum charting the history of South Africa's football while displaying football movies in a special "pod" at the centre of the hall.

Beyond 2010, Safa House will become not only the headquarters of Safa, but also the home of the Premier Soccer League.

Most of the internal work such as wiring and the installation of air conditioning is sub-contracted to black economic empowerment companies.

Meanwhile, BuaNews reported that countrywide, the construction of four new stadiums is expected to be completed within three years. The stadiums will be designed for Cape Town (Green Point Stadium), Durban (Kings' Park), Port Elizabeth (Nelson Mandela Bay) and Nelspruit (Mbombela Stadium).

Three-way race for World Cup media centre

August 08 2006 at 01:47PM

By Maurice de Jong

Cape Town may join a three-way race with Johannesburg and Durban to be selected as the main international media centre for the 2010 World Cup.

The chairman of the local Fifa World Cup organising committee, Danny Jordaan, confirmed that Cape Town and Durban had "shown an expression of interest" in the centre - but he said only Johannesburg had come up with a concrete proposal.

Johannesburg wanted to accommodate the centre in the 35 000m² Nasrec exhibition hall, a 15-minute walk from the Soccer City stadium.

The Fifa inspection group said in a 2004 report that the proposal "was excellent to fulfil requirements of the international media".


A media centre in Cape Town would be based in the International Convention Centre.

The CTICC would double its size from 10 000m² to 20 000m² to house the centre, expanding on the side facing Customs House. The media centre would host more than 3 000 journalists.

CTICC managing director Dirk Elzinga said decisions and concrete plans would be made at a September board meeting. The organising committee will inspect possible media centre venues in October.

The director of the 2010 World Cup team in the City of Cape Town, Teral Cullen, said the city supported the CTICC as a venue for the media centre and would submit a bid "and see how it goes" after the Fifa inspections in October.

Mo Rush should be named the official world cup planner. :)

so where is durban proposing the media centre?

so where is durban proposing the media centre?
Is that a trick question?

Where else but the Convention Centre? As you mentioned before 32,000 sqm of column free space which includes the new arena. Are the seats in the new arena retractable?

Based on Germany 2006 who located the their media centre the new Munich Trade Fair, with an extra 30,000 sqm of parking and storage space, as well as restaurants to cater for 5,000 at the same time, NASREC would be best, with upgrades of course to its facilities and surrounding infrastructure which is planned for 2010.

If FIFA and the LOC are serious about a media centre on par with Germany 2006 then NASREC is the obvious choice.


Munich Trade Fair
(Only Three Exhibition Halls were used, however surrounding available support space is also very important)
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/261/thumbnailthumbnailservletyh2.jpg

The ICC in Durban however would be challenged in terms of support space, unless the large open car park in the image below to the right in the image is made available for supporting use.

http://www.icc.co.za/downloads/gallery/images/aerial1big.jpg

Somebody please correct me. Based on the floorplans of the ICC with me including the new arena. The total space is 10,400 sqm....these are from the official site.

I read the total space will be 32,000m2. There will be over 1 km of uninterruped floor space! according to Gregpz ??

Got that size from an ICC feature in the newspaper. Can't tell you anything more, that's just what it said. Maybe it includes the exhibition centre?

Got that size from an ICC feature in the newspaper. Can't tell you anything more, that's just what it said. Maybe it includes the exhibition centre?
Maybe thats a figure for the future...Based on the new arena and current space its just over 10,000. I'm not sure where the extra 20,000 plus will come from. Perhaps that is a projected figure for the future.

Hey guys have a look...

http://img146.imageshack.us/slideshow/player.php?id=img146/1233/1155122872b6x.smil

The ICC figure is the actual space of the existing complex, but it does include the exhibition centre too, so it is not a future figure. With the 3rd phase expansion in the planning stages, and 5000m2 additional new space at the exhibition centre being built, capacity will further increase by 2010.

I do forsee the Centrum site playing a role, but DB's development may also offer additional facilities since it is right next to the ICC.

Didnt you say that Germany's media centre was too big?

The ICC figure is the actual space of the existing complex, but it does include the exhibition centre too, so it is not a future figure. With the 3rd phase expansion in the planning stages, and 5000m2 additional new space at the exhibition centre being built, capacity will further increase by 2010.

I do forsee the Centrum site playing a role, but DB's development may also offer additional facilities since it is right next to the ICC.

Didnt you say that Germany's media centre was too big?
It wasnt as much that it was too big..they had 12 exhibition halls to choose from..they just provided three halls out of the 12. So whether it was too big is only important to the three SA cities who need to plan for a required amount of space.

ICC - 10,500 including new arena
Exhibition centre - just under 10,000 sqm
additional 5,000sqm planned.

30,000sqm should be more than adequate...but i think the LOC and or FIFA..will select joburg.

The thing Im working with is a hotel, so Im sure they would have conference facilites, plus the office park next to it, should be able to accomodate stuff too.

I was speaking to some of the big guns from Liviero, G5 & Lta the other day, they also said that time is no issue for building the stadiums, its the workers they are worried about, they have alot of under qualified artisans which makes the quality of the product not so gud. They are forced to take them on because there is a shortage of them. Some times they take on guys with quite a few qualifications short & have to use brick layers to do plastering & so on. On Tuesday a guy working in jhb fell 16 storeys because he was doing some work he wasnt qualified to do.

So guys, better become brick layers & plasterer's SA needs you ;)

oh & nice slide show Mo, whats the story with the CT stadium? when can we expect pic's? Sounds to me that both the PE & CT stadium designs are complete, but whats the hold up?

Mo i really think the figures u have for the ICC are way off. will speak to my mate that works there and get the true figures

Mo i really think the figures u have for the ICC are way off. will speak to my mate that works there and get the true figures
perhaps...thanks would be great if u cud get the correct figures.

i got this figures from the ICC official site

10,400 is the official space of the ICC including the new arena
9,600 is the official space of the exhibition centre
and then the additional 5,000 you spoke about.

King Shaka International 2 B ready by 2010

WELL I CERTAINLY HOPE!!!

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SAPA PR -- DUBE TRANSPORT AND THE AIRPORT AT LA MERCY ON RUNWAY READY
Issued by: Ministry of Transport
Attention: News Editors
For immediate release:
DUBE TRADEPORT AND THE AIRPORT AT LA MERCY ON RUNWAY READY TO TAKE OFF
I am pleased to announce the final rationalized structure for the management and ownership of the integrated Dube Tradeport and the airport at La Mercy.
The various engagements with all parties have come a long and rocky road, but we have finalized a structure that represents both certainty, cost rationalization, ease of management and implementation as well as correctly apportioning risk and responsibility. I am also pleased to announce that the airport at La Mercy will be operational, and the Durban International Airport de-commissioned in the first quarter of 2010.
The existing processes that have been performed by either ACSA and or the Dube Trade Port company will be continued to the agreed time-schedules and within the parameters that have been established to date.
ACSA shall exclusively build, operate and own the airport and the passenger terminals in terms of the procurement that is currently in process by Dube Tradeport company, and to the existing timelines agreed in that process. The key date in that process being that all construction shall be completed by December 2009. The airport will then be commissioned by the first quarter of 2010, well in time for the 2010 World Cup.
The Dube Tradeport company shall exclusively own manage and develop the tradeport, the agrizones and the cyberport, including the cargo handling terminals in the airport. The land will be transferred to the Dube Tradeport company for development for its own account. These facilities will be integrated into the existing integrated logistics system planning processes occurring at national, provincial and local level.
All developments that do not strictly fall within the narrow definition of airport business or tradeport business and all land associated therewith, shall be owned and developed within a 50/50
joint venture between ACSA and the Dube Tradeport company. Wherever possible, private sector involvement will be sought, with a particular emphasis on BEE involvement.
Masterplanning for the entire precinct and the re-development of the existing DIA site shall be done jointly by the parties, the KZN Province and Ethekwini Municipality under the leadership of the Department of Transport.
This entire project must be integrated at all levels and to ensure that, I have implemented a management structure that ensures that the development will go according to the timelines and decision-making and oversight will be effective.
The decision-making structure will be the Political Committee, that I shall chair, which will include representation from the KZN Province, Ethekwini Municipality and the ACSA Board. A Steering Committee that will be responsible for the operational management, technical issues and project management of the entire development as well as ensuring its delivery, will be chaired by the Director General of Transport and shall include senior officials and executive management from ACSA, the KZN Province, Ethekwini Municipality and the Dube Tradeport company.
It is with great optimism and enthusiasm that I look forward to the successful delivery of the Dube Tradeport and the international airport. The benefits of this integrated logistics platform, the commercial developments therein and the passenger facilities, represents a new road that will bring prosperity to the area and benefit to the country.

Issued by
Ministry of Transport
Ends

the new airport made headlines news...lots of negativity surrounding the project...e-tv basically could quoted as believing the airport simply wont work out or be feasible..

the new airport made headlines news...lots of negativity surrounding the project...e-tv basically could quoted as believing the airport simply wont work out or be feasible..

SABC also ran the story. Great news for Durbs and KZN - some renders would finish things of nicely!

SABC also ran the story. Great news for Durbs and KZN - some renders would finish things of nicely!
good news its going ahead..bad news - the huge pessimism on the news regarding the project...why does durban need another airport again?

the new airport made headlines news...lots of negativity surrounding the project...e-tv basically could quoted as believing the airport simply wont work out or be feasible..
Thats Etv, they are a Cape Town based television company, what you expect? :scouserd:

good news its going ahead..bad news - the huge pessimism on the news regarding the project...why does durban need another airport again?

See the articles posted on the aviation thread. In short, passenger numbers have more than doubled in just 5 yrs and the current airport will not be able to cope. The new airport will be able to handle an impressive 7.5 million a yr, about the same as CT's.

Thats Etv, they are a Cape Town based television company, what you expect? :scouserd:

I AGREE WITH DURBSBOOI...
eTV DON'T REALLY COVER KZN WELL AND EVEN WHEN ITS A POSITIVE STORY THEY CHOOSE TO BE CONTROVERCIAL...

EVEN NIKKI GREENWALL HAS NEVER SHOT HER SHOW IN KZN AND RARELY COVERS ART AND ENTERTIANMENT NEWS IN KZN/DURBAN

But I heard she's going to be here for DDC, maybe things are changing...

Like how Mo now has "Durban" as part of his Skyscraper signature!

Read this about 2010 which has some ETV / Durban comments in it, by marketing guru Chris Moerdyk


Mass media faces tough challenges for 2010
By: Chris Moerdyk

Will South Africa's mass media look at the run-up to the 2010 World Cup slightly differently from any other major news events? Quite simply, their own prosperity or even survival will depend entirely on whether South Africa can not only stage a successful event in 2010 but can allay fears and subdue unnecessary criticism in the four years between now and then.
There is no doubt that this country has a lot at stake. Whether or not a successful event will lead to increased tourism, economic activity and foreign investment for decades beyond 2010 is now irrelevant. 2010 for us is a fait accompli. We cannot go back.

Economic disaster

Failure though, both in terms of a complete cock-up of the event itself or even worse, allowing the pessimists, criminals and critics to get so much of an upper hand that the event is moved away from us to some other country, will literally kill our economy stone dead and effectively destroy internal and external confidence in this country as effectively as a full scale civil war.

The mass media have an important role to play. Indeed they need to keep up the pressure on social ills such as crime, unemployment and corruption but surely they also need to be circumspect in not giving too big a platform to those 2010 pessimists in this country who have already started bitching about stadiums being too expensive, rotten transport infrastructures, crime and heaven knows what else.

German stone throwers

Looking back at world cup history, every country has had its minority anti-cup lobby.

In Germany, a few years ago, stories abounded of youths throwing stones from highway bridges and killing motorists right , left and centre on a far larger and more frightening scale than occurs down in the Western Cape right now.

In the run-up to the last Olympics the organisers in Greece came under extremely heavy fire from all and sundry internally and externally about not being ready. As it happened, they put on a fantastic event.

Like those countries, South Africa needs to make sure that the lunatic fringe does not derail even the tiniest item on the 2010 agenda.

Platform for pessimists

It is vital that our mass media does not look for short term readership, viewership and listenership ratings by allowing small bands of pessimists to get more of a platform than they deserve. 2010 is far too important and far bigger than short term newspaper sales and TV and radio ratings.

Freedom of speech does not mean freedom of access to media. Nor does it mean an obligation by the mass media to publish absolutely everything any idiot has to say. And the mass media believes it has the capacity to distinguish idiots from everyone else. Just look at the way they comment on politics for example - it's a dead giveaway.

Newspapers, TV and radio stations are set to make a bundle out of this world cup. Not only will they attract additional advertising and sponsorship revenue but also the interest of the consumer abroad who will tune in to our media online.

Lots to lose

Like the rest of society in South Africa, the mass media will have a lot to gain but everything to lose on the outcome of the 2010 event. The question of whether South Africa should be hosting it is no longer pertinent.

Mass media management needs to get involved with those who are doing the organising in terms of making media houses participants, rather than just the usual onlookers.

I am not suggesting for a minute that they compromise editorial integrity. But, what I am suggesting is that news editors think carefully before sensationalising or twisting stories just for a bit of short term one-upmanship over competitors.

For example, there was a TV report last week on the new billion rand stadium being built in Durban.

Putting words in mouths

The tone of the story was that the citizens of Durban thought it was far too expensive and a waste of money. Clearly those ordinary folk the reporter approached for the vox-pops interviews were asked, "Do you think that the new stadium is a waste of money?" This must have been the question because they almost all answered, "Yes, it does seem to be a waste of money..."

One-sided

Now, if the question they were asked was simply, "What do you think of the new stadium that is going to be built in Durban for 2010?" they would very likely have answered very differently and perhaps a lot more positively. Equally if hotel and restaurant owners and shopkeepers were interviewed, they would certainly not have believed the money to be a waste, given the difference between Durban hosting some 2010 games and not doing so.

As everyone knows, the responses one gets to voxpops depends very much on the question asked.

For some strange reason, there are people who really want to see South Africa's 2010 World Cup sabotaged. They are already manifesting themselves in some really bizarre websites, one of which has embarrassed e.tv by using its news footage illegally.
More than he deserved

Heaven knows what the agendas of these people are. Some care clearly simply anti-government, others just plain jealous, but there are many, like that fellow in Cape Town who wrote a letter to the editor of a local newspaper recently calling for a campaign to keep foreign tourists away from South Africa to force Government to do something about crime. Frankly by getting any publicity at all, he got more than he deserved.

The fact is that South Africa, rightly or wrongly, has been given the 2010 World Cup. Now, like it or not, the entire future of this country for decades to come, depends on our ability to pull it off. Whatever one's political convictions or whatever one's social beefs, if you happen to live in this country and want to continue doing so, it seems silly and suicidal to want to sabotage this whole thing.

And this applies as much to the mass media as it does to every single ordinary citizen. There is far too much to lose to indulge in petty sensationalism.

Ahead of Germany

South Africa has proved with both the cricket and rugby world cups that it is capable of organising this sort of event. Fine, 2010 is much, much bigger but there is no reason to doubt that FIFA and our local organising committee have not got their ducks in a row. In fact, in some areas South Africa is already ahead of where the German organisers were four years before the 2006 event.

One also needs to bear in mind that South Africa is not organising this thing alone. FIFA is playing a huge role and it obviously has a lot of experience. FIFA is also a very successful, profitable business before anything else and as a successful profitable business it is not in the habit of taking crazy risks. Successful businesses also don't have the habit of indulging in sentiment.

FIFA believes we can

FIFA would not have given South Africa the World Cup had it not believed that we could pull it off.

Everyone has a role to play in making this work and the best role the mass media can play is to think twice before giving the lunatic fringe more publicity than it deserves.

* Chris Moerdyk is a corporate marketing analyst and advisor and former head of strategic planning and public Affairs at BMW SA. He spent 16 years in ad agencies ending up as resident director of Lindsay Smithers FCB (Natal). He pioneered and was the first editor of the media and marketing pages in Saturday Star.

Moerdyk is a specialist contributor to Bizcommunity.com

http://www.biz-community.com/Article/196/11/10883.html

eTV, is like our very own video version of UK's Sun newspaper, .........full of kak news :D

The airport is very very key to the cities outward/export policy. The new one will give the city many opportunities that were not previously options for us...

anyway...looks like East London finally took note and decided to scrap the idea of building a big new stadium! Good! it wasnt needed


Outrage over 'no stadium' decision
10 Aug 2006 - Inet Bridge -


Mayor's announcement not to build multi-purpose facility angers sports bodies

By LUXOLO MANTAMBO
Sports organisations have criticised Buffalo City's decision to abort plans to build a world class stadium in East London.

Buffalo City Municipality mayor Zintle Peter announced that they had scrapped its plans to build the proposed 40,000 capacity multi-purpose stadium.

She made the announcement in Port Elizabeth during the 2010 summit at the weekend.

Afterwards, Peter told the Daily Dispatch that building the stadium would be a "complete waste of money".

The news came as a huge shock to many sports lovers.

Former mayor Sindisile Maclean had mentioned more than once during his tenure that the city would build a world class stadium which would open doors for the city to host major international events.

Eddie du Plooy, the South African Football Association (Safa) Eastern Cape provincial representative at the national executive committee, said he was very disappointed with the latest move.

"The stadium was not only going to be used for the 2010 soccer World Cup. Look at it as an investment for the city.

"If you have a big stadium, you have a good chance of attracting major games but without the facility, your chances are slim."

Du Plooy said the decision took him by surprise as he had hoped that there would have been consultation with football people before such a decision was taken.

"I respect the mayor's decision but if we (football people) could have been asked for some input, we would have welcomed such an initiative. Personally, I think we need a stadium, not only for soccer but also for rugby - the two biggest sports in this province," he said.

Du Plooy said the city might have to wait for a very long time to host a Bafana Bafana game if it did not have a stadium.

Xolani Bishoti, chairperson of Buffalo City Local Football Association, also lashed out.

"I'm not sure what made the mayor arrive at such a decision.

"I think East London needs a stadium, otherwise we must forget about ever hosting big games.

"A stadium is a basic need for our city at the moment. It will attract a lot of investors and make even Safa and PSL consider us when they allocate venues for big games and tournaments."

Bishoti said they were going to request a meeting with the mayor to discuss the decision - among other things.

Border Rugby Union general manager, Leon Botha said East London needed a stadium with at least 25,000 capacity before the city could think about hosting major rugby games.

"It will be bad from a sporting point of view if we don't get a stadium with at least 25,000 seats so that we can start thinking about hosting major Springbok games," Botha said.

Chairperson of the Border-Kei Chamber of Business, Les Holbrook, said the fact that East London no longer had a professional soccer side after the relegation of Bush Bucks might have influenced the mayor's decision.

However, Holbrook said it was imperative for the council to re-look at the matter next year.

The BCM on Wednesday declined repeated attempts for them to comment.

Mayoral spokesperson Matthew Moonieya said Peter had decided not to talk to the Dispatch.

"The mayor said you can take all the material from the (Buffalo City) website," Moonieya said.

Daily Dispatch

no onder its been left in the 60s, poor old slummies

Hey that new shopping mall coming up there is going to wake up that sleepy place, garuntee you that!

tram system !!! yay

R5,6bn investment boom for KZN

By Greg Arde

Durban is in for a R5,6-billion investment boom that should soon reverberate through KwaZulu-Natal as South Africa gears up to host the soccer World Cup in 2010.

Details of the spending spree were outlined at a Growth Coalition meeting of 150 KZN business leaders at the weekend.

At the heart of the numerous plans will be massive infrastructural projects: the new soccer stadium and the La Mercy airport together will cost R4-billion and will be built in the next 30 months.

On top of this there will be major investment in KZN harbours, railways and roads, with improvements to beaches, a public transport system, pedestrian flyovers and cycle tracks.

A series of world-class events is also planned leading up to and after 2010, including the beach soccer World Cup in 2009 and the World Swimming Championships in 2011.

The gathering heard a proposal that businesses pay a levy to help fund the cost of facilities for 2010, which might also allow Durban to bid for Commonwealth and Olympic Games in 2014 and 2020.

Premier Sbu Ndebele said: "We are on the verge of our own revival - politically, socially and economically. And what's pleasing to hear is that everyone is rolling up their sleeves and getting involved." He said the provincial administration could not develop the economy alone and was anxious to be a partner of business and civil society.

KZN Economic Development MEC Zweli Mkhize said the partnership was central to addressing the poverty and joblessness of "millions of impoverished people".

In addition to the construction bonanza, the government had been on trade missions to attract foreign direct investment, had established a growth fund for catalytic economic projects, and had increased its efforts to assist black economic empowerment and small businesses.

Mondi Business Paper's John Barton, co-chairman of the Growth Coalition with Ndebele, said the province needed a detailed plan for four years until 2010 and then a vision for a further six. "We need to set out what we have to achieve and to identify the opportunities, costs and risks of holding the World Cup."

He said business people could not simply hope to turn on the TV in 2010 and watch the game.

In the 46 months until kick-off business people should plan to take four to six weeks' leave, consider closing their firms and paying the city a levy to help towards the costs of 2010. While he did not mention it specifically, some have touted for the old regional services levies, scrapped by the government last year, to be revived.

Barton said: "Business, government, the eThekwini council and Fifa need to talk to each other like never before and it will need to be an inclusive process because it is not the sole responsibility of a few."

EThekwini Municipal Manager Michael Sutcliffe said the council's Head of Strategic Projects, Julie-May Ellingson, was leading a team preparing a business plan to detail the R6,5-billion investment required to be put in place by the national government, the province and the council to prepare for 2010.

Ellingson said the city did not always let business know what it was doing, but acknowledged it had to in the run-up to 2010, because "we can't do it alone". Sutcliffe said the city had arranged with Durban Chamber of Commerce and Industry President Themba Ngcobo to hold a series of workshops in September "to showcase opportunities in detail".

Come 2010 a new tram system would move tourists around, pedestrian routes and cycle tracks would allow them to explore the city at leisure, and safety and security would be improved by targeting bad buildings where criminals took refuge.

A new flyover to unblock the traffic log jam at Warwick Avenue in Durban and a new train station alongside the King Senzangakhona Stadium were but some of the planned infrastructure projects.

Ellingson said Durban would continue to market itself as a sports city ahead of 2010 by hosting events like the A1 motor rally, the Fifa beach soccer qualifiers (next month) and the cup final in 2009. All this would do well to position the city to bid for the Commonwealth or Olympic games.

Sutcliffe said Durban and Cape Town were the two SA cities vying to host the widely publicised 2010 soccer draw, to be held in 2009.

Meanwhile, Ndebele announced that KZN would host a conference next month to draw on the wisdom of business and churches to help combat crime. Dubbed KZN People United Against Crime, it would be aimed at bringing the fight "back to the streets". Ndebele said people believed solving crime in SA was beyond them, but it wasn't.

"Criminals don't store their loot, they sell it immediately, so we assist and abet them. We have to start saying 'stop' when we are offered stolen goods, because somebody died for these stolen goods. If you get a stolen microwave for R100 you should puke on the food you cook in it, because somebody died for it. Schoolboys wear ostrich hide shoes worth R3 000. Where did they suddenly get those? It's difficult to stop crime in SA, but you can stop crime in your street." he said.

Ya i saw this article, but was too lazy to read it

City needs extra R10m for 2010 expenses Lindsay Dentlinger 16 August, 2006 South Africa
The City of Cape Town will have to consider dipping into its contingency budget to fund operational expenses associated with its preparations for the 2010 World Cup.
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CAPE TOWN, South Africa -- South Africa's parliament approved legislation Tuesday for the 2010 World Cup, with lawmakers showing rare unanimity that South Africa will be ready to host soccer's biggest event.

Sports Minister Makhenkesi Stofile dismissed criticism that construction of stadiums is behind schedule and the country's transportation network won't cope with the influx of visitors. Stofile also sought to ease fears about the cost.

"The World Cup offers us an opportunity to present ourselves to the world for what we really can be," he said. "It presents an opportunity that no money can buy."

The government has earmarked about $700 million for building and renovating 10 stadiums, and another $1.2 billion for upgrades to airports, roads and railway lines.

Some 350,000 foreigners are expected to come for the monthlong tournament. Organizers predict the World Cup should create 129,000 jobs in an economy battered by high unemployment, and lead to an additional $1 billion in tax revenues.

The 2010 FIFA World Cup South Africa Special Measures Bill deals with the legal detail of the tournament. Similar legislation was passed in Germany and other recent World Cup hosts.

It relaxes the usually stringent provisions on visas and work permits for FIFA associates and commercial partners. It suspends restrictions on liquor sales while increasing protection against ambush marketing.

"To support this bill is a legacy in its own right," Stofile said. "Let us all be part of that legacy."

During the debate even lawmakers from the opposition Democratic Alliance, who usually oppose the ruling African National Congress as a matter of principle, took the floor to voice their support.

South Africa will be the first African nation to host the World Cup. President Thabo Mbeki says the event will celebrate Africa's renaissance. But already there are doubts whether the country, which is still struggling to throw off the legacy of apartheid, will be ready.

Stofile said preparations for the World Cup would provide a much-needed opportunity for South Africa to improve its road, housing, electricity and telecommunications infrastructure and "push the economy to a higher notch."

"We believe that hosting the World Cup offers us the biggest opportunity to banish Afro-pessimism," Stofile said.

Fifa confident about 2010 Soccer World Cup
Barbara Cole
August 16 2006 at 12:30PM

Fifa "has no doubt whatsoever" that the 2010 Soccer World Cup in South Africa will be the best in the history of the 100-year-old organisation, an insider said on Tuesday.

Adam Brown, senior executive manager for Match (Management, Accommodation, Ticketing, Computer Solutions Hand-in-Hand) Services, which is contracted to Fifa, gave a presentation on "Behind the Scenes". He told the Southern African Association for the Conference Industry, that South Africa was "way ahead of the game" in the compliance phase of the 2010 Soccer World Cup.

There was already a "very strong" foundation for the event and even before the start of this year's World Cup, "commercially, 2010 was already more successful than 2006, which is an indication of the work going on in the background".


The country was now in the operational phase in the build-up to the event, with KwaZulu-Natal "very far ahead" in the planning.

'It would be a real waste if that could not be translated into opportunities'
One of the challenges facing South Africa was ensuring that the national team got through to the latter stages of the World Cup.

Brown recalled that just before this year's World Cup, the German team was "written off" and there were calls for the coach's resignation. However, the team got through to the semi-finals and that had a huge impact on the World Cup.

Also saying 2010 would be bigger and better than 2006, Durban city manager Michael Sutcliffe said South Africa would have more colour, art, fashion, history and dance to offer. A business plan detailing the R6,5-billion of investment that had to be put in place by the three spheres of government, "to ensure we move the standards set by Germany to an even higher level", would be finalised by his team this week.

As a host city, the municipality's focus would be to provide the necessary infrastructure for hosting the games, fans, Fifa and the sponsors.

A "people mover" system (a tram and special bus service) would be provided to help get people around, Sutcliffe said, adding that the buses would soon be brought into service.

"With people around the world talking about South Africa for the next four years, it would be a real waste if that could not be translated into opportunities and economic development for the next 20 years," Sutcliffe said.

As for Durban's new 70 000-seater King Senzangakhona Stadium, it will be the "best in the world".

Sutcliffe reassured one worried delegate that there would be enough cranes available in the city to do the job.

The plan was to ensure the stadium could be used in a sustainable way in the future. He said 20 000 seats could be taken out and put into a Premier Soccer League (PSL) venue in KwaMashu, or, in the event of the city getting the Olympics one day, the seating could be increased to 80 000.

When it came to the security arrangements, Sutcliffe said Durban was experienced in dealing with major events and all the security forces, including the intelligence units as well as transport officials worked in an integrated way and met for daily briefings at joint operation centres (Joc). These Jocs would be upgraded for 2010.


This article was originally published on page 1 of Daily News on August 16, 2006

http://www.int.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=124&art_id=vn20060816085933956C964139

Durban Business Urged to Help Make 2010 Pay

Business Day (Johannesburg)

August 15, 2006
Posted to the web August 15, 2006

Edward West
Durban

Business leaders needed to identify the opportunities, costs and risks presented by the 2010 Soccer World Cup, said Growth Coalition co-chairman John Barton told a meeting in Durban last week aimed at involving business in preparations for the event.

"We need to budget, to close our businesses if necessary, to include the impact of 2010 in medium- to long-term plans and forecasts," he said.

The meeting was part of the city's and the provincial government's consultation with stakeholders to prepare Durban and the province to host a series of sports, arts and cultural events even after the tournament has come and gone.

The Growth Coalition comprises 150 leading businessmen in KwaZulu-Natal.

Barton said the event "was only 46-and-a-half months away and government needed to start streamlining red tape for project approvals and environmental impact assessments". Durban needed to build roads and airports, transport systems, and a new stadium, he said.

City manager Mike Sutcliffe said more than 40-billion people will watch the games and the load on communications infrastructure will involve, for instance, 200-million website hits a game.

The scale of opportunity was massive.

"Imagine 40000 British fans not able to get tickets, drinking beer, probably on the beachfront. In Germany, some 80000 people who did not have tickets watched the games on huge screens in the cities for the month."

eThekwini project team leader Julie-May Ellingson said the development of nonmotorised transport in Durban was essential. An inner-city tram was being considered to promote the use of public transport, she said.

http://allafrica.com/stories/200608150090.html

According to Danny Jordaan's latest presentation

Final Johannesburg
3rd place PE
Semi Finals CT and Durban
QF CT PE FNB and ELLIS PARK
Second Round all venues except mokaba and mbombela

No. of matches

CT 9
FNB 8
DURBAN 8
PE 8
ELLIS 7
BLOEM 6
TSHWANE 5
RUSTENBURG 5
MOKABA 4
MBOMBELA 4

U asked for what?

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U asked for what?

CT's stadium design :D

jus kidding, nice one Mo, where'd you get it from?

CT's stadium design :D

jus kidding, nice one Mo, where'd you get it from?
CAPE TOWN
Capacity: 70,000 Retractable Roof

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CAPE TOWN
Capacity: 70,000 Retractable Roof


Ok now you just showing off!

Ok now you just showing off!
u asked...i responded.

i dont see a roof...

i dont see a roof...
i should not have included the retractable roof part with this image as this is the generic design to indicate its location, other cross sections include a completely closed roof,ill post those soon

Sorry, if this has been already discussed, but what time will games be kicked off? I know its in our winter too, so during July the Joburg area can get bitterly cold. Is there any night games or are all games similar to GMT time kick-off? ...Future southern hemisphere WC tournaments (Australia) would like to know :)

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Spying eye in the sky for 2010

By Sheena Adams

A spying eye in the sky is likely to be one of the millions trained on the ball when the Soccer World Cup comes to local shores in 2010.

A new-generation spy plane, the Vulture - several of which were ordered last month by the South African Army - has been designed by leading arms manufacturer Advanced Technologies and Engineering (ATE).

Carel de Beer, a senior manager at ATE, said the Proudly South African technology used in the unmanned drone made it one of the most advanced prototypes in the world.

The current design, without any lights or a transponder so other aircraft can't detect it, was not able to fly in civilian airspace.

But ATE was in discussion with the Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) to find ways to modify the design to allow it to fly freely.

This would open up other avenues of use, with crowd and traffic control during the soccer spectacular being "one of the definite options".

Also on the cards was using the Unmanned Air Vehicle, fitted with an on-board camera, for seashore and border patrols as well as for stock-theft prevention.

The plane is controlled by remote by soldiers in a Ground Control Station equipped with monitors.

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u asked...i responded.
jus joking, thanx tho

Is that scafolds holding up the 3rd tier ?

Is that scafolds holding up the 3rd tier ?
its their way of indicating its temporary...

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its their way of indicating its temporary...
Oh I see, as long as they dont really have scafolds holding it up