Delivery not before second half of 2011 here.

You are very optimistic:)

Yep! closer to home, M74 extension up to the Kingston Bridge. I picked up tender documents from Strathclyde Regional Council HQ in 1988. Contract still not awarded!!

Hi True Blue

Thanks for the info

So maybe Glasgow holds the record ! :cheers:

[QUOTE=malec;13502912]I think I know why no contractor wants to get anywhere near this thing.
Unlike infinity where the basic shape of each floor stays the same, just turns a little, in ocean heights they're all different.
I really doubt this is unbuildable as it isn't one of those defies gravity type of designs but will be a pain in the ass to build. Also you can guarantee that once this is above ground it will not be rising 1 floor a week.

Work in progress:


Hi malec

You could be right about how hard it would be to build,I was told that every
floor would be different that must be a nightmare for the planners and builders.Look at the problems they get when all the floors are identical they still have trouble.

Still they should either scrap the 'design' and start again or come clean what the real problem is.

I cannot be the only one phoning an e-mailing every week there must be hundreds of clients doing the same thing,they don't seem to bother either that is the problem with them, no papers dare write about them and no government people do anything to them,they don't have to pay compensation its a licence to print money over there if your company is called Damac.
They are a lying bunch of hypocrates who spin every day with all their glossy Mags and Americanna sales pitches.They are a disgrace to Dubai and the Government are in bed with them they condone this practice with Damac.:cheers:

P.S

You can't get to the top people they do not give out e-mail address's or phone numbers I wonder why !

you are quite optimistic :)

You are very optimistic:)


Altin, did you hear them? :D

At least piling is done now and a proper tender is out. somebody will do it, but the contract value will be high..

Hi

I am sure they only finished the piling work to get the next payment in from all the clients on a construction based and time based contract,they got the money of everyone by doing this in January, you will notice and that nearly 6 months have passed and they have done nothing and it looks like this pace will continue throughout 2007.How can any governement let them away it for so long,even if they allowed them do it, someone must say look you can take the piss for a year or two but now after nearly 4 years you have to do something with the project it will not be long to that section of building work is finshed and you have not laid a brick yet.There last estimated time for completion is 2009 how realistic is that date !

P.S

I have heard their friends in the Government has allready pullled them out of a hole last year and they are looking for a hand out again.:cheers:

Hey, calling me optimistic? That's such a compliment ... in a Damac project thread :D

Well as long as they proved that they started the work (piling done) and advertise for a contractor, then there is no law for them to meet any timeschedule, I think? Does not mean they have to accept the contractors offer. This could go on forever or until they sell a couple of penthouses to budget for it.

Don't hold much hope for ocean heights 2, who is going to buy there especially at the price required to build it now and the comming down cycle in prices for investors.

Well as long as they proved that they started the work (piling done) and advertise for a contractor, then there is no law for them to meet any timeschedule, I think? Does not mean they have to accept the contractors offer. This could go on forever or until they sell a couple of penthouses to budget for it.

Don't hold much hope for ocean heights 2, who is going to buy there especially at the price required to build it now and the comming down cycle in prices for investors.

Hi Dubai_Steve

You are correct there may be no law but there should be !

And you are 100% correct right about Ocean Heights 2 a lot of time has gone by and I bet there are a lot of investors out there know all about Damac and there build qaulity and delays it has been well documented,even the estate agents talk you out of going near Damac, now that must be bad when the biggest vultures in Dubai stear you away from them.They haven't a hope in hell to get new clients on board unless they are cheap and they put all the money into an escrow account which they won't do on both cases,so there super sales techniques and a wee bit of help from the super Dick Tracy from the states will have to be put into action.

I have got to remind everyone they have two Bentley awards for these buildings 'I mean layouts in the sand' what a joke they are.:cheers:

Renders:

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/1856/oh1zx8.jpg

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/592/oh3om7.jpg

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/9681/oh2lv4.jpg

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/2286/oh4qg1.jpg



Marina:

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/773/marinav612texturedyv5.jpg



SSP Diagram:

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/7539/oceanheightsvediagrambv6.gif

Marina:

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/773/marinav612texturedyv5.jpg




:omg: :omg: :omg: :omg: :omg: :omg: :omg: :omg:

You are awesome malec. :okay: :master:

But why it's 'on hold'?

^^ Waiting for a main contractor.

Malec, as i said on the other thread, what you need now is one of those new desktops with liquid cooling. :D

malec your OH model is your best work till now imo... just brilliant stuff :applause:

malec, this is Amazing--i don't know how you do it.
What software did you use? You are a 3D modeling master!

-Keep up the great work!

Hi All


It seems all quite on the eastern front again no word on main contractor
as yet and things looking bleak as allways.I was surprised Damac have not
announced any new developements this week must be a first,they must have
enough money to get through till the end of this month,I wonder what will
happen next month 'more new snazzy adds for more new snazzy buildings'
with more awards for 'non buildings' which have evaporated like a bottle of
water in the dry hot sand. :cheers:


Ah well one can dream Damac can't steal that 'or can they' :ohno:

^^ Are you an OH investor? You seem to be happy about all the delays everytime you post something Damac/OH related :weird:

^^ she is being sarcastic :lol:

^^ Are you an OH investor? You seem to be happy about all the delays everytime you post something Damac/OH related :weird:

Hi Krazy


I know its terrible me being happy as far as Damac ic concerned you
would think I am going 'Krazy' :nuts: :nuts: :nuts: :nuts: :cheers:

P.S

If I admit to be an Ocean Height investor will that prove I am the above (I will keep it a secret then)

^^ she is being sarcastic :lol:

Hi dubaiflo


You got it in one


I think Krazy is only having some fun he knows it is 'sarcasam' :cheers:

15/June/2007

Ocean Heights

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^^Man, I hate teabreakes!!!!!! :doh:

If only it was a teabreak, as far as we know a main contract not been choosen. I'm sure once they have a main contractor there will still be a time lapse.

This teabreak probaly take as long as ti takes for tea to grow, be picked and endup in a cup :)

No contractor as yet Negotiations still in progress,as long as they are negotiations they cannot announce the launch of Ocean Heights 2
I don't think they would get many mugs to buy into that project unless they
see a modicum of building work done on Ocean Heights 1 even there great
spin machine would have trouble in achieving this feat.:cheers:

The latest Imre's pictures show some very interesting details. You can see that the old piles for the 50F design are still there and not removed.

Also you can see that soon the site will become again a mini-pool, as it was 2.5 years ago when Tom_Green first documented it :D

***

The latest Imre's pictures show some very interesting details. You can see that the old piles for the 50F design are still there and not removed.

Also you can see that soon the site will become again a mini-pool, as it was 2.5 years ago when Tom_Green first documented it :D

Hi AltinD

When I went to the site they told me they where adding to the original
piles they have included the extra ones into the new build as required. :cheers:

^^ Based on what I see, the correct term/phrase would have been: "... In addition to the piles being casted now, we are using also some of the piles that were already casted as per the previous (50F) design."

... so some, not all of them.

^^ Based on what I see, the correct term/phrase would have been: "... In addition to the piles being casted now, we are using also some of the piles that were already casted as per the previous (50F) design."

... so some, not all of them.

Hi AltinD


'At the end of the day it is night'


I don't get your point about the extra piles, I saw them been put in for the new build as per the schedule.

Who cares about piles and all the rest till the main contractor is assigned we are stuck and Damac and the rest of the clients are going nowhere:cheers:

^^ Well, mine was just an observation related to the skyscraper under discussion, not connected at all to the marketing and other stuff behind it. ;)

This is weird.
These are damac's latest updates for this tower. What's this? :weird:

http://damacproperties.com/new/manager_images/2007-16-4-41-Ocean-Heights2-2.jpg

http://damacproperties.com/new/manager_images/2007-16-4-40-Ocean-Heights2-1.jpg

http://damacproperties.com/new/manager_images/2007-16-4-42-Ocean-Heights2-3.jpg

^^ that looks like ocean heights 2 plot and not ocean heights

I think it will be impossible to built this tower. Ever.... Reason is not technical but pure economical, Consider this:

In the past year the price of construction went up with 30% in the gulf countries. That means that Damac's profit has evaporated and I am not sure how much profit is left or if they are at a loss already.

Last year construction workers wages went up with 20% on average.

Steel - construction beams: Prices up 80% compared to last year.

Cement: Prices change every week. No planning possible on this one.

enforcement steel: 40% more expensive than last year.

What do you think. Will DAMAC ever be able to construct this tower or reimburse their clients if they fail? The key to successfull skyscraper develoment is to finish within the timeframe or all costs spiral out of control.

I think it will be impossible to built this tower. Ever.... Reason is not technical but pure economical, Consider this:

In the past year the price of construction went up with 30% in the gulf countries. That means that Damac's profit has evaporated and I am not sure how much profit is left or if they are at a loss already.

Last year construction workers wages went up with 20% on average.

Steel - construction beams: Prices up 80% compared to last year.

Cement: Prices change every week. No planning possible on this one.

enforcement steel: 40% more expensive than last year.

What do you think. Will DAMAC ever be able to construct this tower or reimburse their clients if they fail? The key to successfull skyscraper develoment is to finish within the timeframe or all costs spiral out of control.



Hi minime


Thats what I told Damac top people a year and a half ago that it was impossible to build at there launch price.They replied they had done a lot of forword buying contracts to cope with this event, they also said that there prices were a lot higher at launch to take care of this problem if it happened.
Going on there past records I think its the usaul spin and lies routine to be honest:cheers:

Well, they might have priced the apartments higher than usual to cope with something like this but they've left it for way too long so the safety limit has probably passed. The longer they leave it the worse the problem will be.

There's a good reason why NYC doesn't have 50 supertalls, they're bloody expensive to build and to tell the truth, I don't think Dubai will have either.
Up until now buildings were cheap to build with labour, materials and land being very cheap which meant supertalls could be built and be profitable. Of course this situation will get worse when prices start to go down eventually.

I know there are shitloads of proposals but people shouldn't take everything for granted. If they end up with 10 supertalls to roof that would still be amazing (by roof I include substantial spires such as marina 101 but not pole-like ones like burj al arab) considering Chicago right now has 3 (will have 6), NYC will have 7 or 8 eventually. Right now there are 3 (emirates office tower, rose rotana and burj dubai), in a few months there will be 5 and in 2 years there'll be 8. After that who knows but the building boom can't last forever.

Well, they might have priced the apartments higher than usual to cope with something like this but they've left it for way too long so the safety limit has probably passed. The longer they leave it the worse the problem will be.

Hi malec

I was told last week the contractor they chose has pulled out and they are
now in talks with the one that lost the bid.How can any sane person believe anything Damac reps say they have lied since day one.I think they are buying time on this one till all the signature Apartments have been sold then they might announce the design is not practical (in other words no profit in it) and build some high cheap costing box in its place.They cannot get into trouble with any one from the Government they are another joke,the papers are gagged so what can you do either take the new building or get your money back,they then have achieved what they may have wanted all along.When you think about the years of delays it is a disgrace that they let it run away from them through shear incompetance and the man I would point the finger at is that Fat Clown who masquarades as the CEO 'Peter cowboy Riddoch' :cheers:

They pulled out? Any reason why? And who was the contractor?

If the worst does happen it'll probably be Peter Riddoch who takes all the blame while some others such as this guy (http://i5.tinypic.com/13yoz09.jpg) run away with the millions.

They pulled out? Any reason why? And who was the contractor?

If the worst does happen it'll probably be Peter Riddoch who takes all the blame while some others such as this guy (http://i5.tinypic.com/13yoz09.jpg) run away with the millions.




Hi malec


Still waiting for a answer on the above questions I expect something like
this: we are not able to discuss private tenders with our clients because of business etiquette,as far as the other contractor is concerned we are in negotiations at present and as said before we cannot say at this crucial point as who the winning bidder is.

That is if you believe there was a contractor in the first place which I don't
if they would give you a lead of some sort you could start some investigations on who they are.But as Damac are in Dubai they do what they want their doesn't seem to be any rules or time limits on anything the developers do, its a disgrace what they can do with impunity.There is no one who can give them a roasting at any of there fancy meetings or gala's and behind closed doors with no press they can lie and spin till there hearts content.There main power in all this is all the clients are seperate and each client will be told any sorts of drival by Damac knowing fine well the clients will not get together and cause a major upset in Dubai to make the Government sit up and take notice this is my view on the whole matter.
Company's like Damac will eventually cause concern and maybe just maybe the slack ass Government will open there eyes and ears to what Damac are doing to there clients in Dubai.:cheers:

http://www.gulfnews.com/business/Real_Estate_Property/10133765.html

Arabtec has won a AED645 million ($175.6 million) contract to build the Ocean Heights I tower in Dubai Marina, the company said on Monday.

The UAE construction firm said work on Damac’s 81-storey tower would take place over the next 36 months.

“Arabtec is pleased to add this project to its iconic projects spread all over the UAE. The nature and construction period of this project shows Arabtec’s commitments toward its clients to deliver its projects on time to the highest quality,” commented Riad Kamal, managing director of Arabtec.

Earlier this month Arabtec was awarded a $211.8 million to expand the National Exhibition Centre in Abu Dhabi, including the construction of a 60,000 square metre extension to the existing exhibition hall and two large parking structures totaling to 235,000 square metres.

Today is a sad day for moaners, complainers and Damac-bashers everywhere! :lol: Still, let's see if we see any movement in the coming months!

^^ INDEED :lol:

What does this statment mean
"The UAE construction firm said work on Damac’s 81-storey tower would take place over the next 36 months."

I am confused here. Does the article state this one is going to be built afterall?

What does this statment mean
"The UAE construction firm said work on Damac’s 81-storey tower would take place over the next 36 months."

Now that is tricky indeed :lol:


Let's hope that is just a idiotic press release thingy, and what they meant is that the construction process as per the contract will take 36 months to be completed.

wow now that is something making hope..

I am confused here. Does the article state this one is going to be built afterall?

I don't think there was really any strong indication that it wouldn't be built. It is here in the "On Hold" section because it has been sitting idle waiting for a main contractor. The article is stating that the main contract has finally been awarded, so construction will be able to resume. It probably won't be super imminent since Arabtec will now have to prepare to start building, but it "shouldn't" be too long now. It will be interesting to see how Hanna reacts to this "bad" news. :lol:

^^ That will be interesting to read, but one thing is for sure: Her post will end with :cheers:

^^I think Her is a HE! Simple mistake to make (if you're in Tailand that is):lol:

^^I think Her is a HE! Simple mistake to make (if you're in Tailand that is):lol:



Hi True blue


Our Secret was allways going to be safe with you !!!!!!!!!!!!! :banana:

I don't think there was really any strong indication that it wouldn't be built. It is here in the "On Hold" section because it has been sitting idle waiting for a main contractor. The article is stating that the main contract has finally been awarded, so construction will be able to resume. It probably won't be super imminent since Arabtec will now have to prepare to start building, but it "shouldn't" be too long now. It will be interesting to see how Hanna reacts to this "bad" news. :lol:

Hi Hollie Maea


I was given that news long before it hit the paper i was sworn to confidence,
it is great news but I am not holding my breath I expect long delays and loads
of moans to come.I think it goes with the territory when you invest with Damac if it is not delays it will be build quality or something else, they have not got a clue with development projects on a mass scale such is this.These
are my views only !
I would love to be positive about Damac but up till now they have not given me any reason to do so,when I get my keys I will be glad to be rid of them for ever.I was thinking of buying another Damac Apartment in the Ocean Heights 2 not now and not never after these major delays with this lot.

I am in Dubai at present I might just go and have a wander round the graveyard at Ocean Heights 1 and pay my respects maybe leave a few flowers they would have more chance of growing than this project !:cheers:

^^ Someone needs to warn them you are coming so they can run for cover :lol: I certainly am not saying that we won't see any more delays. Even if there are not any more delays this project has already far more than a project should have...but anyway a ton of people have been waiting for this contract to come through so at least there is some progress! By the way, for some reason I never assumed you were female in spite of the handle. Of course a lot of people misinterpret my gender because of my handle as well. :cheers:

29/June/2007

Ocean Heights

security said , Arabtec comes on Monday.

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http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/3509/imresolt066et7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

^^ Someone needs to warn them you are coming so they can run for cover :lol: I certainly am not saying that we won't see any more delays. Even if there are not any more delays this project has already far more than a project should have...but anyway a ton of people have been waiting for this contract to come through so at least there is some progress! By the way, for some reason I never assumed you were female in spite of the handle. Of course a lot of people misinterpret my gender because of my handle as well. :cheers:

Hi Hollie Maea


Thanks for the comments no problem about the handle let people
come to there own conclusions.

As long as I don't meet anyone from Damac Dubai will be safe :banana:

[QUOTE=Imre;14001847]29/June/2007

Ocean Heights

security said , Arabtec comes on Monday.

Hi Imre

That is good news that Arabtec will be on site this monday,Do you or anyone
else have any lowdown on the Company i.e have they a good track record of build qaulity and workmanship.:cheers:

JUST TO LET EVERYONE KNOW CANCELLED MY APT AND MONEY HAS BEEN REFUNDED BUT NOT WITHOUT ALOT OF HASSLE. I HAD PAID DAMAC 540,000AED AND AKSED THEM TO TERMINATE MY APT AND TRANSFER 52,000AED TO AN APT I HAVE IN LAKE VIEW. BUT THOSE DEVIOUS MOTHERFU***ERS TRANSFERRED 135,000AED, JUST HAD A MASS KICK OFF WITH THEM. THEY ARE SUCH INCOMPETENT BASTARDS. MY ADVICE TO EVERYONE WOULD BE TO GET OUT NOW, ITS NOT WORTH THE BULLSHIT. THEY HAVE HAD MY MONEY FOR 2 YRS AND IM NOT EVEN GETTING A PENNY COMPENSATION.

So does this mean Arabtec are the main contractor them?

^^ Of course, official press release was posted in here as well.

Arabtec ... Do you or anyone
else have any lowdown on the Company i.e have they a good track record of build qaulity and workmanship.:cheers:

Hanna,

If I mention to you:

LE REVE
AL FATTAN MARINE TOWERS
BURJ DUBAI

;)

This is really excellent news, quality contractor, I think will will see some action very shortly. Hang on in their Hanna, your apartment will be worth a fortune when completed. BTW I am correct thinking you bought a one bed ??

This is really excellent news, quality contractor, I think will will see some action very shortly. Hang on in their Hanna, your apartment will be worth a fortune when completed. BTW I am correct thinking you bought a one bed ??


Hi Morrismarina

Yes I bought a 1 bedded and I will hang on in thier till the end I have paid
most of it so who cares. If they go down the tubes then I have a few more
years of work to make up the deficit,it was a gamble and still is till I get the
keys.At last there seems to be light at the end of a very long tunnel.:cheers:

Hanna,

If I mention to you:

LE REVE
AL FATTAN MARINE TOWERS
BURJ DUBAI

;)

Hi AltinD

Thanks for the update on the contractor cannot get much better than the above looks very promising now they have people like this on board.Now we
will have to see how it progreses from here on in.:cheers:

My concerns were always that a contractor had not been appointed and the development was thus going nowhere. Of course all that's changed now and the Signature apartment purchasers' will be really pissed off if there's a major delay. I somehow think this will be built fairly quickly now.

Anyone close enough to this building to see if Arabtec showed up today as advertised?

If they were only appointed recently then I really doubt they'll be on site by now. They said the same about elite residence but they started real work only after a few months. Also remember, the floors in this tower are all different which means it probably won't shoot up rediculously fast like princess tower will or some other one where it's just copy and paste 100 times.

If they were only appointed recently then I really doubt they'll be on site by now. They said the same about elite residence but they started real work only after a few months. Also remember, the floors in this tower are all different which means it probably won't shoot up rediculously fast like princess tower will or some other one where it's just copy and paste 100 times.

Well, I'm just referencing that security told Imre they would be on site today. Unlikely as it might sound, it would still be nice to know if the security guys were just talking out of their asses or not.

^^ They might have come on site on Monday but it will take time to actually move there.

06/July/2007

Ocean Heights

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http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/8425/imresolt063eg6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

In the UK, channel 5 will showing a program called Megastructures. This program is about the construction of the Burj Al Arab. It's on tomorrow, 9th July at 8.00pm.

^^ And how's that related to Ocean Height?

^^ And how's that related to Ocean Height?

Hi AltinD


Maybe because they are the same construction company !!!!!!!!!!!!!!:cheers:

^^ The only work that ARABTEC did on Burj Al Arab were interiour fittings on the public areas:

"... we carried out the interior fit-out to the public areas. These include the Skyview and the Undersea restaurants called Al Muntaha and Al Muntara, health clubs with male and female swimming pools, banquet rooms and coffee shops. Also the ballroom which features a huge gold-leafed dome ceiling and columns with ornate gold-leafed designs."

Link (http://www.arabtecuae.com/arabtec/project_detail.asp?var_num=&k=1&catid=10&pageid=7&Iscurrent=0&var_sort=&projid=83)

^^ The only work that ARABTEC did on Burj Al Arab were interiour fittings on the public areas:

"... we carried out the interior fit-out to the public areas. These include the Skyview and the Undersea restaurants called Al Muntaha and Al Muntara, health clubs with male and female swimming pools, banquet rooms and coffee shops. Also the ballroom which features a huge gold-leafed dome ceiling and columns with ornate gold-leafed designs."

Link (http://www.arabtecuae.com/arabtec/project_detail.asp?var_num=&k=1&catid=10&pageid=7&Iscurrent=0&var_sort=&projid=83)

^^ AltinD I salute your knowledge!
BTW Do you have an Anorak :)

:cheers:

^^ An what? I might have a Turkish name but I ain't Turk. ;)

^^ AltinD I salute your knowledge!
BTW Do you have an Anorak :)

:cheers:

Sounds like that could just be an English reference then. Perhaps he does train spotting as well.

:lol:

..

^^ An what? I might have a Turkish name but I ain't Turk. ;)


^^ Don't worry AltinD, I am just yanking your chain. It's a bit of British slang only us sad brits will understand. The amount of knowledge you guys have amazes me sometimes. I just saw the above mentioned program about the Burj-Al Arab (Please don't ask me how this is related to OH:) )
Fascianting program. Here are some more Burj-Al-Arab facts for you:

-Worlds Highest Atrium
-Worlds highest fabric wall
-The Atrium was initially all white but when Sheikh saw it he went bonkers (More british slang) and it had to be redesigned in the last 6 months
- They sealed and airconditioned the whole structure well before it was complete to allow workers to work through out the day. All trucks went through a sealed air chamber to get in and out.
-It took from June to December to cool the whole structure down to the desired level (Go figure!)
-Three football pitches of marble were used.

As there is not much going with OH I thought I might aswell hijack the thread for a bit. But you guys probably knew all that stuff anyway. Now I'll bugger off (More British Slang!)

:cheers:

Sounds like that could just be an English reference then. Perhaps he does train spotting as well.

:lol:

^^ The greeks couldn't understand our fine british pastimes either could they?

Hi All


I saw this report in the Gulf News Paper today Arabtec wins a a hotel
contract.I hope they have enough workers out of the 24,000 employees
to build Ocean Heights.:cheers:



Arabtec wins Dh1b Dubai hotel contract
Staff Report
Published: July 14, 2007, 23:31


Dubai: Construction firm Arabtec and its joint venture partner Dubai Contracting Company (DCC) have won a contract of more than Dh1 billion for work on a hotel located on Shaikh Zayed Road in Dubai.

The work includes construction of the main hotel building comprising four basement levels, ground and mezzanine floors and 51 storeys, Arabtec said in a statement.

The total value of the contract is Dh1,076 million. The company said but did not say who awarded it the work.

"The participation of Arabtec with DCC in this joint venture follows on the successful joint venture track record when the joint venture previously constructed the Fairmont Hotel in Dubai," said Riad Kamal, managing director of Arabtec Holding PJSC.

Arabtec was established in 1975. It employs more than 24,000 people.

Hi All


Has anyone seen or heard about any movements going on at the
Ocean Height graveyard :cheers:

^^ I drove there lastnight (made a retour just for you ;)) and saw no sign of Arabtec at all. However I think Imre has toured the area today so maybe there will be a pic update to clarify the matter.

20/July/2007

Ocean Heights

Arabtec has arrived:)

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/2337/imresolt120mf2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/8089/imresolt121gl9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

hopefully we'll see some progress soon :)

Wow, the cone is resurrected. :eek:

^^ LOL.


but this looks like work on the structure is about to start :)

Still on hold until they start doing stuff :)

^^ I drove there lastnight (made a retour just for you ;)) and saw no sign of Arabtec at all. However I think Imre has toured the area today so maybe there will be a pic update to clarify the matter.

Hi AltinD

That means I owe you a :cheers: thanks again for your time and help.

[QUOTE=Imre;14358937]20/July/2007

Ocean Heights

Arabtec has arrived:)



Hi Imre

Thanks for the updates and pictures you are a gem :cheers:

Hi AltinD

That means I owe you a :cheers: thanks again for your time and help.

Not much of a retour actually, just 500 meters more to my overall 42 km drive ;)

Not much of a retour actually, just 500 meters more to my overall 42 km drive ;)

Hi AltinD

It didn't matter matter if it was 1 metre you did the trip and I am gratefull for
that :cheers:

construction restarted, please back the U/C section! lots of workers at the site on Friday!

03/Aug/2007

Ocean Heights

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What are they doing? still no progress!

^^ Same thing, some certain DCE employed people were doing almost a year ago and for many months in a row, on a site not far from there.

What are they doing? still no progress!

Hi Dubai_Steve

Maybe True blue could answer that question, it looks like they have to
uncover the surrounding areas around the pilings and to something
before the shuttering I don't know !

I am from an Electrical Engineering background so it would be nice to know
what they are up to at present. :cheers:

[QUOTE=Imre;14601154]construction restarted, please back the U/C section! lots of workers at the site on Friday!

03/Aug/2007

Ocean Heights

Hi Imre


I was just about going to ask you for an update on the site you must have
read my mind !

great Picts again Imre thanks a bunch. :cheers:

^^ Trimming the tops of the piles at the correct levels and some reduced level working in the lift pit. Soon some concrete blinding and then the waterproofing/tanking membranes.

Good news.:banana:

I am from an Electrical Engineering background

I come from an Electrical Enginering education too, but I never worked in my field of studies (no worries or regrets though).

Our moderator Krazy is a freshly graduated in Electrical Engineering too, so you're not alone. :cheers:

A lot of bright sparks on this forum then :)

Those are some big piles, and lots of them.

Glad to see this one finally underway. Still not all apartments sold though. Which sums up the whole problem ppl have with Damac.

Glad to see this one finally underway. Still not all apartments sold though. Which sums up the whole problem ppl have with Damac.

Hi Naz


Have you any info of how many Apts are still to be sold. :cheers:

Naz would say 90% are sold ... oh sorry that is what Damac says always.

Naz would say 90% are sold ... oh sorry that is what Damac says always.

Hi AltinD

I was just checking in case the 'Naz' had some inside info from some
'acclaimed' sales team member or should that read 'ashamed' sales team
member, not that I was inquiring to buy any more heaven forbid that would be the last thing I would contemplate doing.:cheers:

Shouldn't it be " more than 90% sold " :lol: :lol::lol:

I saw the site today, very busy , 100-200 workers there , maybe more:)

200 +? wow, that's a lot!

pretty cool.

so maybe we are really going full spead ahead now.. i still have some hope left..

I saw the site today, very busy , 100-200 workers there , maybe more:)

WOW! This is great news!:banana: Hopefully we'll see some real progress here now!:cheers:

Of all the buildings in Dubai, this is the one I've been looking forward to the most. It seems so elegant and modern.

Hi All



All quite on the Damac launches very strange we were getting
nearly 1 a week it seems to have dried up. I wonder what has
happened (could it be the dreaded Escrow Law) has it finally
caught up with them !


Who dares to second guess there next move. :cheers:

Well good to hear lots of workers on site, Might even get out of ground early 2008

17/Aug/2007

Ocean Heights

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[QUOTE=Imre;14835000]17/Aug/2007

Ocean Heights


HI Imre



Thanks for the update and great picts as always are there still 100-200 workers on site :cheers:

Nice to see plenty of activity on a Friday. So much better than the total lack of any labour at The Torch site on Fridays.

Hi All


I read this report in AME Info today


With Arabtec pulling there troops maybe they will throw more manpower and resources to the Ocean Heights site ! :cheers:

A joint venture consisting of Arabtec, ACC and Besix has pulled out of a $186m contract to build the Mall of Arabia at Dubailand, reported Construction Week. An un-named source said the group rejected the deal due to being busy with other projects and having 'issues' with the client, the Ilyas and Mustafa Galadari Group. Galadari has now divided the contract into three parts to attract bids from smaller operators.

Arabtec have won this contract and the Infinity contract. It would make sense for Damac to sit them down and negotiate a contract for Damac Heights which would keep them concentrated in one area. This would make resource sharing very easy. For example, problem with one contract send them next door while it gets sorted rather than them hanging around waiting for an answer or a delivery etc. The contractor benefits from the efficiency gain resulting in less time lost and less arguing with the client over abortive costs.

Damac have had problems with their contractors on other sites (Lake Terrace). It will be interesting to see if the Arabtec engagement goes well. If so, they may be able to reverse the damage done by the lengthy delays by producing a quality building with added value.

We will have a better picture in 6 months.

Hi Naz


Have you any info of how many Apts are still to be sold. :cheers:

There are 19 left as per today, 9 being 1BRs.

^^ Why have they been having so much trouble trying to sell them? When did this one go on the market? 2004? Correct me if im wrong.

There are 19 left as per today, 9 being 1BRs.

Hi Money2Burn


Thanks for the info


Maybe they held them back for some reason,they did it for the Signature
Apts.:cheers:

They were still on sale last December in the Emirates mall, 3 years after launch.

Hi All




This piece of news today might mean Damac have to use an escrow account
because Ocean Heights have not completed shoring.:cheers:


Sultan Butti Bin Mijrin, director general of the Dubai Land Department and Sarie Arar, head, business banking group of Abu Dhabi Commercial Bank at the signing ceremony of the Escrow Account Trustee Agreement.



Land body to enforce use of escrow accounts
By Robert Ditcham, Staff Reporter
Published: August 30, 2007, 23:16


Dubai: Land Department said yesterday it will address cases where property developers still receive money from property sales directly from buyers rather than through the emirate's newly introduced escrow accounts.

Building permits will only be issued to new projects linked to an escrow account.

Under the conditions of the escrow account law, money generated from off-plan sales at projects launched since the law was issued will be paid into special accounts, rather than directly to developers, and released only when certain stages of project construction are complete.

According to a Dubai-based property developer, the government must start putting pressure on developers to conform to the new requirements.


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"There are a significant number of companies who sell to end-users using their own brokers without announcing the project in the media and without going through escrow accounts," said Ahmad Al Abdullah, chairman of New Dubai Properties.

"Overall the escrow account law is good for Dubai as it makes developers accountable, but the government must control companies that don't announce their projects and sell under the table."

The Land Department said sales for all projects in Dubai, even those launched before the law came into effect on June 28, will have to go through escrow accounts by December 28, 2007.

For developments where off-plan sales have not yet started, an escrow account will need to be opened before sales start. Developments where off-plan sales have already started could fall in three categories:

1. Developers with project that are 70-80 per cent complete will not have to open an escrow account.

2. Projects where work has started on site and crossed the shoring stage, will need an account by December 28.

3. 'Projects that have not reached the shoring stage will need an escrow account immediately'.

So that means all the money paid from investors of ocean heights so far has to go into an escrow account immediately. I think they will have to borrow the money from somewhere and do some creative accouting. I hope the escrow law does not have the reverse affect and make companies go bust and investors loose everything.

31/Aug/2007

Ocean Heights


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So that means all the money paid from investors of ocean heights so far has to go into an escrow account immediately. I think they will have to borrow the money from somewhere and do some creative accouting. I hope the escrow law does not have the reverse affect and make companies go bust and investors loose everything.

Hi Dubai_Steve


That is what it looks like according to the report today,I agree with you
on the concern some might go bust with this law.:cheers:

[QUOTE=Imre;15096176]31/Aug/2007

Ocean Heights




Hi Imre


Would they not let you look over the fence this time,is the crane on the site.
:cheers:

I couldnt take pics there because of the security.i hope it will be rising soon and after that is no problem:)

I couldnt take pics there because of the security.i hope it will be rising soon and after that is no problem:)



Hi Imre


Thanks for the update I thought that would have been the cause.:cheers:

Anyone any ideas why they would cover the site like this,is it a big secret
on the building technique that nobody is allowed near it,or maybe couple of
guys on site at present and not the hundreds that was there a few weeks ago!

"Creative accounting" won't be anything new to a company like Damac. Plus, they seem to have plenty of expendable income for things like an escrow account system, judging by the amount of advertising these guys do. Funnily enough, none of it with ITP! :bash: (well, a little, but no where near enough!)

Down the hole. Arabtec are getting stuck in with plenty going on on Friday 24th Aug.

I think the tower crane has been located in the hole on the far right.

http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/cranesetcphotos/dubaiocean.jpg

^^Getting there. Thanks for the updates :)

[QUOTE=Cranesetc;15181344]Down the hole. Arabtec are getting stuck in with plenty going on on Friday 24th Aug.

I think the tower crane has been located in the hole on the far right.



Hi Cranesetc

Thanks for the update :cheers:

07/Sept/2007

Ocean Heights

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[QUOTE=Imre;15237095]07/Sept/2007

Ocean Heights


Hi Imre


Thanks for the updated picts great stuff :cheers:

dayem! this is one :fiddle: project thread... :lol:

I had to read the entire thread (while skipping maybe 12 pages) just to get a clue of what went wrong with the project... :nuts:

Really crazy stuff! I thought by time i reach last page i would be reading about how the project gotten shelved and damac killed themselves :lol:

Instead i see construction is moving along..... I dunno... I gotta say to investors who did not cancel yet - dam - you better keep your fingers and toes crossed that construction wont be delayed any further because damac like to ruin their reputation and give investors stroke - mostly the bad ones.

Dayem! :bash:

"Creative accounting" won't be anything new to a company like Damac. Plus, they seem to have plenty of expendable income for things like an escrow account system, judging by the amount of advertising these guys do. Funnily enough, none of it with ITP! :bash: (well, a little, but no where near enough!)


they will be audited anyway...

21/Sept/2007

Ocean Heights

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wow.. that's fast. Bravo Damac :applause:

wow.. that's fast. Bravo Damac :applause:

I think the back pats should go to Arabtec. :)

Holy mother of Allah - really fast progress here -these workers must be on steriods. Can we borrow some to work on the Torch please. :lol:

Investors should have more confidence in Contractor rather than Damac; Arabtec has many distinction- one of largest construction co. in ME, arabian ranches, some buidlings in palm jumeirah, tallest tower under JV..... Hope that there is enough support from Damac to sustain construction.

I am not going to argue if anybody has different opinion.

you're right contractor is the key more then developer ....100% i agree on that

^^ Absolutely no doubt about that ...





... provided the cheques from the developer keep comming. ;)

Hi All


The latest news this week that Arabtec got the joint contract for the
new racetrack stadium so they can't be all the bad.Damac my have
picked a winner at long last with this reputable contractor. :cheers:

Hi All


The latest news this week that Arabtec got the joint contract for the
new racetrack stadium so they can't be all the bad.Damac my have
picked a winner at long last with this reputable contractor. :cheers:

Yes a really good contractor here, there's not many that would attempt to build this design.

I've every confidence OH will now be built and to a high standard. Seems you did the right thing to hang in here Hanna..........with those Signature apartments pushing the value of this tower through the roof (metaphorically speaking !! ) your place will be worth a fortune once this completes. :banana:

Yes a really good contractor here, there's not many that would attempt to build this design.

I've every confidence OH will now be built and to a high standard. Seems you did the right thing to hang in here Hanna..........with those Signature apartments pushing the value of this tower through the roof (metaphorically speaking !! ) your place will be worth a fortune once this completes. :banana:

Hi Morris


Thanks for the comments

I did think about reselling on a few occasions but decided to give them a
chance.I was prepared to lose the money and had contingency plans made
up for that scenario.As I see it life is one long gamble some pay of some don't
I am not the best gambler in the world but deep down I hoped this would pay
of if I waited long enough.I am not out of the woods yet anything can happen
till I get the keys so fingers crossed it is looking good at this present time.:cheers:

you're right contractor is the key more then developer ....100% i agree on that

If Damac has the funds and the project stays on budget. This building could still end up brilliant investment.

Hi All


I saw this story this morning strange no mention of Ocean Heights !


Arabtec at full stretch

United Arab Emirates: 5 hours, 17 minutes ago
UAE based construction firm Arabtec is unlikely to seek any new contracts for at least six months as its resources are now fully stretched, reported Construction Week. Last week, the firm secured a $1.3bn deal to build the racecourse and a five star hotel at Dubai's Meydan project alongside Malaysia's WCT Engineering. Arabtec is also involved in constructing the Burj Dubai tower, the Burj Dubai Lake Hotel and Dubai World Central.:cheers:

I get the feeling more and more construction firms are fully stretched now Hanna (see recent comments on Mag 218 thread for example). Which is good news for people like me and you where construction has started on your property. Could mean delays for us of course, but also IMO the property prices will continue going skyward and completed properties when eventually handed over will be worth hell of a lot more. Good job construction has started on OH but I reckon the other Damac launches are going to be severly delayed given the future lack of resources........I wouldn't want to be an investor in any new projects in Dubai, Damac or otherwise.

I get the feeling more and more construction firms are fully stretched now Hanna (see recent comments on Mag 218 thread for example). Which is good news for people like me and you where construction has started on your property. Could mean delays for us of course, but also IMO the property prices will continue going skyward and completed properties when eventually handed over will be worth hell of a lot more. Good job construction has started on OH but I reckon the other Damac launches are going to be severly delayed given the future lack of resources........I wouldn't want to be an investor in any new projects in Dubai, Damac or otherwise.

Hi Morris


I agree 100% with you on that the delays are getting worse as the years go by :cheers:

Some delays could be deliberate to control oversupply, already there are rumours of market correction though experts call it maturity stage!! It's difficult to figure out which project would be victim of such delays! Looks like Dubai Lagoon is one of them.

DAMAC selects only the best award-winning architects from around the world. Top designer house 'Aedas' deserves praise for the architectural magnificence of DAMAC Heights, the 90-storey splendour. Monarch of all it surveys in the prestigious Dubai Marina and overlooking the Palm Jumeirah, the 8th man-made wonder of the world, this signature tower offers the most exclusive penthouses, duplexes, 3, 2 and 1 bedroom apartments in the world. Come home to limitless luxury, with all the fine details of fine living right inside your home. This is what life at the very top is all about.
Dubai Marina – The most prestigious waterfront address
The Marina Lifestyle is one of the most desirable and sought after lifestyles in the world. Enjoy the exhilaration and vibrancy of a chic, urban lifestyle together with all the advantages of owning a home on the water. Unobstructed views across the marina and of the Palm Jumeirah, fresh sea breezes and the experience of a lifestyle most people can only dream about.




Facilities:
A private cinema
personal gymnasium
indoor swimming pool
jet spa and sauna
Facilities and Amenities

Golf Simulator
Games Room
Nursery, nanny and day care services
Elegant banquet area
Meeting room for parties and gatherings
Separate Male / Female health clubs
Temperature controlled swimming pool
Sauna / Steam / Spa bath
Gymnasium
Barbecue Area
Double height lobby, guest lounge and High tech smart elevators

A luxury yacht maintained by the management of the building for the exclusive use of penthouse and duplex apartment owners. Enjoy a number of cruising credits at reserved times without the hassles of maintenance and berthing. Cruise the French Riviera or explore the Musandam Peninsula or just enjoy the high life on the high seas.

^^ We have a thread for DAMAC Heights. And also advertising is forbidden in the forumn.

Do you work for DAMAC as we have a few messages we'd like to pass back :)

If Damac has the funds and the project stays on budget. This building could still end up brilliant investment.

absolutely correct :)

^^ We have a thread for DAMAC Heights.

Hey it is Damac after all ... you can't pretend them to get it right. :lol:

Hey it is Damac after all ... you can't pretend them to get it right. :lol:

Thats why i want to know if he works for DAMAC, They'll porbably build the wrong tower on the wrong plot if we not careful

The thing is the Damac message wasnt inline with the current discussion , it was just a sales pitch not , we are sorry for this and this is what we are doing etc, a cut and paste job fools...

HI Imre



Welcome back you were badly missed.

Have you been round to Ocean Heights recently !


:cheers:

welcome:)

yes, Arabtec still working there:)
I try to post pics on Friday.

welcome:)

yes, Arabtec still working there:)
I try to post pics on Friday.




Thanks again Imre :cheers:

Time for title update.

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18/October/2007

Cityscape 2007

Ocean Heights

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You can just make out the words "(C)1967 Caterers 'R Us. All rights reserved" on the podium. :D

The base is "great".

^^ Now you are so ungrateful. What would you rather have? A nicepodium on a project that's delayed by 4 years or nice advertisements on every street of Dubai (and Abu Dhabi)? You can't have everything!

^^ Hey don't blame me ... blame Naz, he started it. :bash: :D

BTW can you change the height please. ;)

^^ but Lord Florian told me to 'wait' :dunno:

^^ In which case we must wait the master has spoken :master: :master: :master:

Yeah, let's wait on Ocean Heights for a change.

^^ but Lord Florian told me to 'wait' :dunno:

But wasn't that BEFORE I asked for the change? :D

If it's only a change of 2 1/2 meters, does it really make a difference? :dunno: Or will the slight inacurracy totally crash the Emporis Skyline Ranking central nervous system?

^^ no but it might do something to Stephan23

^^ Not seen him around for a while so we should be ok

^^ Don't be so sure, he's present on the "Emporis" thread ... plus he's more interested on SZR towers anyway.

its ok we can measure the height when the project is finaly completed.

Anyone doing anything circa 2015? lol

its ok we can measure the height when the project is finaly completed.

Anyone doing anything circa 2015? lol

Hi dubaiquote

I was told last quarter 2009 that is a big difference in anybody's books :cheers:

Actually this one is going to start rising soon - I think they'll pour the 'raft' soon.

Actually this one is going to start rising soon - I think they'll pour the 'raft' soon.

Hi Tractor

Thanks for the confidence boost, I would like to move in by the end of 2009
or a little bit later if need be,at least it has started and with a little piece of
luck it might be the best development Damac has done.
For their sake and future developments it would be a good idea to get it
perfect.
Damac has promised a lot about their projects but the plain facts are they
are not up to running a major project from start to finish,I think there are
learning at the customer expense time will tell on this one.
I can only hope they have sorted out all there internal problems and got there
act together once and for all.

Sheik Mohammad will be well advised to tell developers to get the quality right at
all costs because Dubai looks to the future as a major Hub of the world in tourism as
well as a business center they cannot afford to have buildings falling apart in 20 years
time, Mohammad has got most things right about Dubai's future but must not fail in the
in lax Quality control if this happens Dubai's future will be effected in the not to distant
future.

Hi Imre

Did you post new picts of the Ocean Heights site on Friday !

not, I wasnt there.I will try soon.

not, I wasnt there.I will try soon.

Hi Imre


No problems thanks for your reply :cheers:

24/October/2007

Ocean Heights

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Well clearly it progressing now, glad for all the investors including Hanna..............Be ready for pouring slab soon

Well clearly it progressing now, glad for all the investors including Hanna..............Be ready for pouring slab soon

Hi thedubailife


Thanks for the well wishes and it is looking good for all the other
investors at long last 'progress' :cheers:

[QUOTE=Imre;16081816]24/October/2007

Ocean Heights


Hi Imre

Thanks again for your great picts,I see we have a safety record board
erected as well things are realy looking up. :cheers:

We had such a laugh with this tower, yet with all the delays with Infinity, The Torch, relatively little progress with Elite Residence and Marina 101, removal of formwork from the Princess core and stuff like that it really does not look that bad, when compared. It would be quite ironic, this tower being the first supertall completed in the Marina, huh? ;)

^^ Hm, you don't know when this tower was launched, do you ... and this will be the first? OMG :runaway:

This tower was launched in 2004, for the 2004th time. In that context, this tower is probably subject to the longest delay in Dubai construction, ever.

Hi All



The technical question I would like to ask people is how many floors of
car parking would you need on a building this size,and how would that
look if the level would was way above the road level.Where would that
put the entrance to the foyer.The way it looks just now is there would
be not enough space for under ground parking on a build this size 82 floors
in all with 9 floor of signature Apts leaves 71 floors x 10 apts per floor=710
car park spaces + 9 signature Apts and we don't know how many they will be
allowed per floor,the base looks a very small area to accomodate this many spaces
without the need to go very high at street level :cheers:

^^ Hm, you don't know when this tower was launched, do you ... and this will be the first? OMG :runaway:

This tower was launched in 2004, for the 2004th time. In that context, this tower is probably subject to the longest delay in Dubai construction, ever.

I know when this was launched. And i know it's delayed a lot. I'm just saying that it is not that much behind the other supertalls now, an certainly ahead of some (Marina 101, anyone?). PLUS with the delays on the Torch and others it may actually be the fist one to be finished (it's only 310 meters, so that probably could mean a little earlier dates then some of the other towers, though the shape will probably not allow for a speedy construction). That's all I'm saying, I never said that it's not delayed, or something like that).

OK, I see your point.

Palm Diera is not too bad either, coz its way ahead of Palm New York City. I get your logic now.

^^ Always look on the bright side! ;)

Nice quote in the news from our friend Peter :D

"One word," says Glaswegian-born Peter Riddoch, the chief executive of Damac, "Delivery. Every development Dubai has attempted has been dismissed as a white elephant but Dubai has built it and it has been a success. Dubai works."

Nice quote in the news from our friend Peter :D

"One word," says Glaswegian-born Peter Riddoch, the chief executive of Damac, "Delivery. Every development Dubai has attempted has been dismissed as a white elephant but Dubai has built it and it has been a success. Dubai works."

Hi Dubai_Steve


Were did you read this Steve !


:cheers:

^^ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/global/main.jhtml?xml=/global/2007/10/29/et-dubai-129.xml

:cheers:

^^ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/global/main.jhtml?xml=/global/2007/10/29/et-dubai-129.xml

:cheers:

Hi Dubai_Steve


Thanks for that :cheers:

Hmm does the guy actually know what Delivery means

1.
a. The act of conveying or delivering.
b. Something delivered, as a shipment or package.
2.
a. The act of transferring to another.
b. Law A formal act of transferring ownership of property to another: delivery of a deed.
3. The act of giving up; surrender.

Here are a few definations Now i'm sure it's supposed to be defination 2b for properties but DAMAC of gone for defination 3

^^ I think you forgot:

4. The act of giving birth.


I think he was refering to this one; giving birth to an ... idea. :D

^^ I'm sure he was, but i wanted to dig at DAMAC, any they not given birth to much apart from Waves and the other one in the marina.

Or maybe this term - "De-livery" - the act of removing one's own liver with one's bare hands due to insanity caused by waiting for answers regarding one's property investment.

Damac has several projects under development in UAE

By C.L. Jose, Staff Reporter

Dubai: Damac Properties has 15 projects valued at about Dh4 billion under development in the UAE, an official said.

The company's latest project Ocean Heights will be completed at a cost of about Dh500 million, said Peter Riddoch, chief executive officer of Damac Properties. The project is the company's third in the Dubai Marina.

"We are very proud to add a new masterpiece to Dubai's growing cityscape. Ocean Heights is to be about 300 metres tall, and is envisioned as the pinnacle of convenience, excellent service, elegance and leisure," said Riddoch.

The project has a total of 672 apartments consisting of one-, two- and three-bedroom units, with prices starting from Dh1.1 million, he said.

Ocean Heights will provide customers with 24-hour security, a dedicated concierge desk, professional housekeeping services and 700 parking spaces, he said.

"The building reflects the finer things in life, and caters to the exquisite taste of our target market," said Riddoch.

The tower will be fitted with an outdoor leisure deck complete with a temperature-controlled swimming pool, gymnasium, sauna and steam room, as well as a game room and children's play area, he said.

The Damac Group has grown into a global conglomerate with more than 5,000 employees in 16 countries, officials said.

I wish I had heard about this 2.5 years ago. Wow, a 2 bed was at 1.1M AED! A one bed is now over 1.5M AED. And I suppose 2beds must be around 2.5M. Lucky investors have doubled their money in less then 3 years.
My guess is that this will be one of the premier addresses at the Marina, unlike most of the other monoliths going up. In which case it will be worth even more.

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Thanks. Now we finally know what the tower looks like. And pixelated.

Hi All


I noticed this report this morning in the Khaleej Times I hope all the
developers take note on quality or all the clients will be needing a rebuild
of there properties well before there due time.:cheers:

Especially 'Damac'




Khaleej Times Online >> News >> BUSINESS
Property developers need to put more emphasis on quality
BY A STAFF REPORTER

1 November 2007



DUBAI — The quality of a number of properties in Dubai is believed to be sub-standard, undermining the industry's reputation and growth, according to the chairman of one of Dubai's major property developers.


SABA Properties chairman, Behrouz Javaheri, said there would be serious repercussions for Dubai's property market as a whole if word spreads of poor quality developments.

"Based upon the general feedback from end-users and investors, the quality of many recent developments is a major concern within the market. We believe a good number of properties delivered in Dubai appear to be substandard," he said.

"These shortcomings are playing a detrimental factor in investor and end user confidence when making the decision to buy property here in Dubai.

"The situation will be further aggravated as the market continues to shift heavily towards end users, who are particularly conscious and ultimately directly affected by both the materials used and the way the properties are maintained afterwards," he added.

As a result of the apparent quality problems, buyers are increasingly focusing upon the factual quality of materials used in property. It is also becoming more common for a large number of buyers to visit sites in order to evaluate the materials being used throughout the construction process, Javaheri said.

"As an extreme example, we had one client who hired a quality control specialist to visit one of our sites after delivery, in order to assess and determine the quality of materials that were used right down to the types of electrical wires," he explained.

Javaheri also highlighted the importance of developers deploying continuous and effective maintenance plans, especially given Dubai's harsh climate. He said: "From our experience, some buildings can last up to a third longer with quality materials and good maintenance."

He also anticipates that within the next few years the number of property developers in Dubai will shrink significantly. "Those who will survive will have superior structure, resources, organisation, quality products and ultimately solid reputations built from historical performance," he said, adding: "Market forces will ultimately press out the developers who are not delivering the highest quality. A good reputation is among the top assets for developers and, as demand levels out, quality and effective maintenance programmes will play a much more prominent role within the market."

Hi All



I saw this story today in the paper Damac Ocean Heights need this like a hole in the head :cheers:


Arabtech workers to resume work today
(Wam)

2 November 2007



DUBAI — A joint committee consisting of representatives from Labour Ministry and the Dubai Police Department of Human Rights yesterday visited the site of Arabtech Construction Company whose workers stopped work and peacefully stayed at the company’s accommodations.


Humaid bin Daimas, Labour Ministry Assistant Undersecretary said that the committee members, who included a representative from the Indian consulate in Dubai, informed workers that inspectors of the ministry and of the Permanent Labour Committee in Dubai will continuously visit workers’ accommodations, to ensure their compliance with occupational safety and health regulations.

He added that the inspection teams will also check for availability of buses to transport workers and for provision of health insurance to the labourers by the employing companies until the relevant law is passed.

“The existing labour regulations proved to be very effective in reaching solutions that guarantee provision of adequate working conditions to the construction workers. It was agreed that the Arabtech workers will resume their work from today.

Hi Imre



Do you know if they have poured the raft yet at OCEAN HEIGHTS or
is it all rebar yet. :cheers:

I think its a matter of days ... a LOT of rebar is waiting for the concrete!

^^ Pouring always takes place over the weekend, where there is less traffic (alot of concrete ready-mix tracks needed)

I think its a matter of days ... a LOT of rebar is waiting for the concrete!



Hi Tractor


Thanks for the update :cheers:

^^ Pouring always takes place over the weekend, where there is less traffic (alot of concrete ready-mix tracks needed)


Hi ALtinD


Thanks for the update :cheers:

Hi All


Has anyone any news if they poured the Raft at the weekend on
Ocean Heights. :cheers:

Hi All


Has anyone any news if they poured the Raft at the weekend on
Ocean Heights. :cheers:

What's the hurry fella? Completion is at lease 2 years away. :)

What's the hurry fella? Completion is at lease 2 years away. :)


It's just that Hanna's been waiting nearly four years for this momentous occasion so surely you can understand why he's so excited. :banana:

He's going to have an accident in his jeans when he sees that enormous concrete slab. :lol:

^^ Pouring always takes place over the weekend, where there is less traffic (alot of concrete ready-mix tracks needed)

Does Hanna know which weekend this momentous event will take place? He is hoping it was during the weekend just gone.
:lol:

Still not poured the concrete ... maybe this weekend coming?

Still not poured the concrete ... maybe this weekend coming?

Hi Tractor


Thanks for the answer to a very simple question (I thought) :cheers:

09/November/2007

Ocean Heights

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Hi Imre



All quite on the Eastern front as far as pouring of the raft on Ocean Heights
have you seen or heard anything.Maybe the delays was due to the Arabtec
strike,I saw they got a 20% rise last week maybe they will get back on track
with the project this week. :cheers:

I just saw yesterday, still nothing , maybe this weekend?

I just saw yesterday, still nothing , maybe this weekend?

Hi Imre

No problem thanks for the reply :cheers:

This tower is gonna be beautiful when completed. Cant wait.

ALUMCO LLC, a specialized aluminium façade contractor and UAE's largest manufacturer, has won a major contract worth AED100 million to supply its high quality aluminium façades to the unique Ocean Heights Tower at Dubai Marina, Dubai.

Ocean Heights developed by DAMAC properties is a super tall skyscraper structure designed by the global architects Aedas. The Tower is currently under construction at Dubai Marina, by Arabtec Construction LLC and Engineering Consulting Group (ECG) is acting as the main project consultant. The tower will stand 310 meters (1,017 feet) tall and have 82 floors. The project is expected to be complete by the mid of 2010.

Mr. Samer Barakat, Managing Director, Alumco, said: “We are very pleased to be associated with this unique tower project since it is an iconic project that will add to the beauty of the highly prestigious Dubai Marina area. Being awarded this project reflects the confidence our partners have in us, being one of the leading providers of premium quality aluminium.”

The aluminium façade system of Ocean Heights Tower which is designed, fabricated and installed by Alumco is a fully unitized and customized system to suit the structural and esthetical requirements of the building. In addition the tower will be given a cold warping effect on the panels to maintain a smooth curve over the entire height of the building, matching with its twist in shape.

Strategically situated at Dubai Marina, the tower is surrounded by resorts, boutique hotels and breathtaking futuristic developments. The project will home 680 luxury freehold condominiums, overlooking magnificent vistas on all sides, and with unique curves and twisting motion as one ascends.

Alumco will be supplying its unitized system for the project which will consist of 20 000 m² unitized curtain wall, 14 500 m² 4mm composite panel with insulation, 27 000 m² stick curtain wall sliding doors & swing doors and 5 300 m² 3mm thick aluminium cover sheet.

Alumco’s rich portfolio includes major projects in various locations around Dubai. Alumco has previously completed major prestigious projects that include 15 towers at Burj Dubai Residence located at the Burj Dubai development, the Dubai Police Headquarters, Al Murroj Complex on Sheikh Zayed Road, Shatha Tower in Dubai Media City and 4 towers at the JBR Sector 6 complex.

The company has also done major expansion to its present production capacity of its aluminium façade. This is an integral aspect of Alumco’s strategy to maintain itself as one of the leading players in the manufacturing and installation of cladding and curtain walls on high-rise towers.

:cheers:

Looks like the concrete pour is going to be today ...

Looks like the concrete pour is going to be today ...

Hi Tractor


Thanks for the update :cheers:

They are pouring as we speak ... :)

22/November/2007

Ocean Heights, concrete pouring

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Hi Imre


Thanks for the great picts as always,it has been a long time coming, never
thought I would see the day I think I will have a toast to that :cheers:


It must be the ideal conditions for pouring since the temperatures have all dropped
for the winter months so it should all go well with this stage of the build.

They are pouring as we speak ... :)

Hi Tractor


Many thanks for your help and updates. :cheers:

Amazing stuff the pouring process, seams like such a massive job, and great pics by IMRE too.

Just as a matter of interest..Does anyone know how much concrete goes
into a pour of this magnitude???

A few wheel barrows full......NOT.......thats why it's amazing stuff

A few wheel barrows full......NOT.......thats why it's amazing stuff

Thanks for the brilliant response....NOT....:baaa:

Seriously,curious to know exact measure. Anybody???

^^ It was my pleasure :D

I think it varies per tower but would be nice to no a round about figure

Well they're STILL pouring, so its a LOT of concrete.

maybe 8000-9000 m3 or more?

Well they're STILL pouring, so its a LOT of concrete.

They will still be when you'll wake up tomorrow... and probably even after your comeback from the Friday Brunch. :D

Amazing!!!

23/November/2007

Ocean Heights

still pouring with 11 pumps ,workers said 9+2 extra and 2 concrete laboratories over there.

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Hi Imre


Great photo's as always :cheers:

No more ground work so please change the status to "UNDER C:" :cheers:

Amazing action there. Thanks Imre for the great shots!

Great to see it going on. Well pleased for Hanna

if the Arabtec keeps this job and of course if the Damac pays :), it will be ready before than the Princess,Torch,23 Marina etc...

Great to see it going on. Well pleased for Hanna

Hi Plotman



Thanks for the well wishes you are a gent :cheers:

if the Arabtec keeps this job and of course if the Damac pays :), it will be ready before than the Princess,Torch,23 Marina etc...

It was launched almost a year before all of these, They used to have advertisements of this tower in SZR 2004/5

if the Arabtec keeps this job and of course if the Damac pays :), it will be ready before than the Princess,Torch,23 Marina etc...

Hi Imre

I hope you are right with your prediction Arabtec look like they are a good company and are concerened about there reputation so plough on Macduff.
:cheers:

It was launched almost a year before all of these, They used to have advertisements of this tower in SZR 2004/5

I know that the launch was in 2004 , I just see the progress what the Arabtec has already done there.

if the Arabtec keeps this job and of course if the Damac pays :), it will be ready before than the Princess,Torch,23 Marina etc...

Firstly, great effort from you as always. Thank you.

Now, as for your remark above, Naz would flip in his grave if he was dead but as he is alive and kicking his heels, waiting for the Torch, maybe he can flip to Ocean Heights. :banana: :lol::lol::lol:

Go Damac

This blue strip cast into the concrete is quite interesting. It is a water bar used to form a water tight tank. As it is blocking water flow horizontally accross the internal kicker joint, I can only assume there is going to be a storage tank in the basement.

I expect they will use this detail on the outer walls of Infinity to keep the water out.

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