Yes when the commonwealth games brings down a retailer in Melbourne that has been in business for over 100 years it speaks volumes to the commerical value of the commonwealth games franchise. Not only could the manchester committee not find one single sucker in 2002 to stock Commonwealth Games merch but
Today news comes from Melbourne that the company handling Commonwealth games merch is in bankruptcy protection even from the committee.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/karak-cracks-sports-retailer/2006/07/10/1152383677791.html
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,19749069%255E2862,00.html

Standfields and Golden take note melbourne has 3.5 million customers and halifax has 350,000 The loss thus will be ten time larger.

Jim Jones

Yes The montreal olympics are final paid off 30 years later and the province of quebec offered the olympic facilities free. Mayor Trmebley turned down the offer. Seeems maintenance on the facilities without tenants ammounts to 20 million annually and the newest version of the roof is 6 million a year over the next 40 years.

http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2005/10/08/Montreal_stadium20051008.html


jim jones

It always puzzles me why you start all of your posts with "yes". Does that make people agree with you?

Maybe Halifax has less population but I'm sure Melbourne has more than 2 clothing manufacturers (or had). Bottom line is, Halifax isn't Melbourne. And we're not trying to build some ludicrous "first-in-the-world" type Olympic Stadium

For anybody who doesn't know, all posts made by this Jonestowncultinpicto guy should be taken with a huge grain of salt.

We have all heard your point of view on the Commonwealth Games. Why don't you find something else to do instead of flooding this small subforum with threads based on your cut-and-past internet "research"? I'm getting pretty tired of it, along with just about everybody else, most of whom have been here for a lot longer than you have.

I would imagine that the mods would also have something to say about your many redundant threads.

For anybody who doesn't know, all posts made by this Jonestowncultinpicto guy should be taken with a huge grain of salt.

We have all heard your point of view on the Commonwealth Games. Why don't you find something else to do instead of flooding this small subforum with threads based on your cut-and-past internet "research"? I'm getting pretty tired of it, along with just about everybody else, most of whom have been here for a lot longer than you have.

I would imagine that the mods would also have something to say about your many redundant threads.

So why dont you just ignore me if you think I am so wrong. Your contribution has been about two thirds of mine. So far there has not been one single article presented in favour of the commonwealth games for any creditable news source in the entire world and Guess what . I have searched for them too. You see your problem is dealing with the facts my friend. The facts are there the commonwealth games will equal bankrupting the city and the province. The more time goes on the more the evidence piles up . Your game is to stop any opinion that counters but your rose colored existance.

Jim Jones

So the Chronicle Herald and Daily News *don't* count as creditable sources, right? Just to make sure.

So the Chronicle Herald and Daily News *don't* count as creditable sources, right? Just to make sure.
They count as creditable sources if it isnt just reporting what Scott Logan and company are trying to fling our way. Or an op ed peice by Marilla Stephenson, AJ Walling or Pat Connollly. Cheer leading is Cheer leading is Cheer leading and like the name calling the pro-games side can only do those tactics are only based in foulish emotion that this is needed.
Citys grow without stadiums or elite athletics facilities. The cities that take a rational view of what is needed by their citizens on the ground as opposed to the european sport festival mafia are way further ahead with sound financial stewardship.

As has been put here before about the thousands of reasons it is a good thing to be involved in . for some strange reasons research does not find that. And no one seems to be able to produce that outside of a press release from parties directly involved like games committees,sport federations and politicians who swallow the product hook line and sinker.


Jim jones

They count as creditable sources if it isnt just reporting what Scott Logan and company are trying to fling our way. Or an op ed peice by Marilla Stephenson, AJ Walling or Pat Connollly. Cheer leading is Cheer leading is Cheer leading and like the name calling the pro-games side can only do those tactics are only based in foulish emotion that this is needed.
Citys grow without stadiums or elite athletics facilities. The cities that take a rational view of what is needed by their citizens on the ground as opposed to the european sport festival mafia are way further ahead with sound financial stewardship.

As has been put here before about the thousands of reasons it is a good thing to be involved in . for some strange reasons research does not find that. And no one seems to be able to produce that outside of a press release from parties directly involved like games committees,sport federations and politicians who swallow the product hook line and sinker.


Jim jones


Just for the record, I have seen several people write into the readers forum in the DN in support for the CWG. Not recently, although I havnt seen anyone talk about the CWG in the paper recently.

http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?NewsID=1042490

Yes the minister feels that they will need to spend 7 times as much as manchester 2002 to bring their stadiums up to western standards. So what will be the price for 2014 for a city without 3 major stadiums???
Seems to me the commonwealth games are getting pricey when stadiums build in New Delhi for the 1982 asian games will not do and require 7 times the funding for renovations of a new stadium in 2002.

Here the quote

While the message was loud and clear, it is the sports ministry which is in charge of sanctioning the funds for the annual maintenance of the three major stadiums which were built to host the 1982 Asian Games. The stadiums are being looked after by the Sports Authority of India (an autonomous body under the sports ministry).

Aiyar also pointed out that India will have to spending seven times more than Manchester (which hosted the 2002 CWG) to match the standard. The sports minister said that the total expenditure for Manchester was about 130 million pounds (approximately Rs 1,100 crores) out of which 43 percent was recovered from commercial sources, particularly from sponsorships and ticketing. “To match the western standards, India needs Rs 7,000 crores for infrastructural development, training and organising the entire event. Thus, for other facilities, the government is looking forward to private sector contribution of nearly Rs 3,000-4,000 crores,” the minister said.