Guangzhou is one of the moost sky-booming cities in the world...


Twin Towers, 432m y 110f, u/c
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Asia Pacific Century Plaza, 290m, 57f, u/c
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Guandong Pearl River Tower (aka Tobacco Tower), 309m, 73f, approved (SOM)
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China International Center, 270m, 62f, u/c
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R&F Centre, 205m, 54f
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International Finance Place, 198m, 39f
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Taikoo Hui Guangzhou Cultural Plaza
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Other projects, most of them approved or u/c
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Monorail
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New railway station
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Guangdong museum
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TV tower, 610m, u/c
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General u/c pics
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Enjoy!

*Images from skyscrapers.cn

WOW! Amazing! Thank you for sharing!!

can u give us UC pics of the Twins?

WOW, I must say that the amount of development here is AMAZING.

I visited Guangzhou last year and must admit that I was a little disappointed, especially since it was VERY poluted.

Best regards,

Peter

The Twin Towers are great, and so is the tobacco tower, but there is something fishy going on either with the renders or in the city itself...
In the 5th picture, on the right of the twin towers, you can see the NYC skyline: Pelli's world financial center; one astor plaza (the one with the 4-pointed roof) and the Chrysler Building!!!!!!

The twin towers are really amazing. :)

can u give us UC pics of the Twins?

Here (http://forum.xitek.com/showthread.php?threadid=366667)

wow is all i can say!

Crazy Town, i love it.

can tell any one what is the position of Guangzhou city in china economically and populationwise.how far it from HK or Shanghai?

just amazing!!!

can you put the randers and the u/c pics together one by one project?

Amazing. Very beautiful buildings. I love the Museum!

most of them are world class designs. amazing collection!

Great overview, Guangzhou is booming!

Show us more!

Simply amazing

wonderful projects

whats the population of the city?

Wow, so many projects and some really nice ones in there.

OMG It's just unbelivable

i love the museum 2.....

Another city I have to visit.

http://archrecord.construction.com/ar_china/newsImages/news_0604som.jpg

This one is truly amazing! :runaway:
more pics of Guandong Tobacco Tower please.

Why a tobacco tower? Nice tower, but bad name.

The China International Center has Topped out not long ago what i know!!

Awesome renders and pics....chinese cities are the future cities of the world.

the twin towers development is great! love that land scaping

tabacco tower is pooh, bad name bad design

The Twin Towers are great, and so is the tobacco tower, but there is something fishy going on either with the renders or in the city itself...
In the 5th picture, on the right of the twin towers, you can see the NYC skyline: Pelli's world financial center; one astor plaza (the one with the 4-pointed roof) and the Chrysler Building!!!!!!


Nearly the world financial centre.... they have photoshopped the dome and pyramid from the top!!! Perhaps they are moving them there....?

Holyyy $#!@, thats very impresive.

Absolutely great looking projects. There isn't a one I don't like and wouldn't mind having here in little young Minneapolis. I also noticed the WFC buildings but didn't notice the Chrysler.

Very impressive!

I love Guangzhou.

Most renders I posted before are projects along this huge avenue:
http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/6130/zjxcggmcqq4l5iilau6.jpg

Everybody has listened about Pudong (Shanghai), now you must remember this name too: Tianhe district. One of the key CBD's of the coming Asian Century. Here is a more general render:
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/1139/2306151151247594de4.jpg

Check this (http://forum.xitek.com/showthread.php?threadid=366667&pagenumber=1) thread keep updated.

You can also see this booming district in Google Earth:
23° 7'33.99"N
113°19'9.70"E

Now thats a fine piece of development there.

can we have a translation of this in english. i wanna write something about it.
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yeah, this would be great, :D

They better keep those twin towers seperated as far as possible.

can we have a translation of this in english. i wanna write something about it.
http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/6130/zjxcggmcqq4l5iilau6.jpg

That is gonna become a extremly amazing street! :okay:

They better keep those twin towers seperated as far as possible.


Why is that? I highly doubt that terrorists are interested in China at all. In fact, the Petronas Towers in Kuala Lumpur are also close together, yet they were not a target of terrorist attacks either. The events in the United States should not be a deterrent to building two tall buildings close together.

They better keep those twin towers seperated as far as possible.


hahaha... funny...

So far, low posture of China on international affairs would not bring her so much trouble like terrorism

hahaha... funny...

So far, low posture of China on international affairs would not bring her so much trouble like terrorism


Well not really low posture but China doesn't really put its nose in other people's internal affairs unlike the the Americans or Brits. Chinese seperate politics from business that is why it has such friendly ties with the Arab world.

The Twin Towers are great, and so is the tobacco tower, but there is something fishy going on either with the renders or in the city itself...
In the 5th picture, on the right of the twin towers, you can see the NYC skyline: Pelli's world financial center; one astor plaza (the one with the 4-pointed roof) and the Chrysler Building!!!!!!


Nothing is fishy, the project itself is real, but background renders in some might not be accurate. All that matter is the actual project, renders in the background is nothing more than to make the overall render look good.

Those twins are gorgeous!

Tobacco tower is amazing!

i wonder what people will think about the "modern" buildings that we build today, in 30 or even 50 years time... WHatever, now they are really good looking (most of them)

I believe they will be looked upon in the same way that buildings like the empire state. as a wonderful ''relic'' of the past. these buildings like all ancient ones will be cherished for their unique design and their historic value for reminding us an older era.

I find this especially true for China since the future generations will see these buildings as the ones built at the start of China's economic political rise as a super power.

amazing!

All of these buildings look good, but did anyone else notice Michael Jordan on the side of one of them?

I love the tobacoo tower. The sky line there will be amazing.

can tell any one what is the position of Guangzhou city in china economically and populationwise.how far it from HK or Shanghai?
-Guangzhou is the largest city in south China and the third largest city in China. Population is around 10 million.
-Guangzhou is the capital of Guangdong province, which is the richest area in China mainland and the cradleland of Cantonese.
-Guangzhou is 200KM far from HongKong.

-Beijing is in north China
-Shanghai is in east China
-Guangzhou is in south China
They are the biggest 3 cities in China mainland.

Could you tell us where did you go when you visited Guangzhou?
Actually, Guangzhou is now spending 10 Billion USD on controlling the pollution. I hope that you can visit Guangzhou few years later and I am sure you will have a better impression. Thanks.
WOW, I must say that the amount of development here is AMAZING.

I visited Guangzhou last year and must admit that I was a little disappointed, especially since it was VERY poluted.

Best regards,

Peter

can tell any one what is the position of Guangzhou city in china economically and populationwise.how far it from HK or Shanghai?

Located in southern coast,currently the third big city of China in terms of economic size,population is around 5th which is approximately 10M.

Metropolitan population / Economic size


1,Chonqqing 30M （province level city) /7th
2,Shanghai 18M （province level city) /1st
3,Beijing 14M （province level city,Capital) /2nd
4,Tianjing 11M （province level city) /6th
5,Guangzhou 10M (GuangdongProvince) / 3rd
6,Shenzhen 9M (Guangdong Province) /4th

Located in southern coast,currently the third big city of China in terms of economic size,population is around 5th which is approximately 10M.

Metropolitan population / Economic size


1,Chonqqing 30M （province level city) /7th
2,Shanghai 18M （province level city) /1st
3,Beijing 14M （province level city,Capital) /2nd
4,Tianjing 11M （province level city) /6th
5,Guangzhou 10M (GuangdongProvince) / 3rd
6,Shenzhen 9M (Guangdong Province) /4th


it is not so correct,the real is:
population(in city) gdp(us$)
shanghai 20m 1180
shenzhen 18m 620
beijing 16m 820
guangzhou 15m 820
chongqing 10m 400
hongkong 7m 2000

it is not so correct,the real is:
population(in city) gdp(us$)
shanghai 20m 1180
shenzhen 18m 620
beijing 16m 820
guangzhou 15m 820
chongqing 10m 400
hongkong 7m 2000

I am sure this is incorrect

you can visit National Bureau of Statistics of China(http://www.stats.gov.cn/english/index.htm)
to check with these data

Shenzhen currently has the highest GDP per in Mainland China.
Hongkong has over $28000 in GDP per
I am talking about total metropolitan population,while Chongqing has around 30m is for sure
It is impossible that Guangzhou or Shenshen can compare population with Beijing.
I am an resident of Guangzhou City.I know how big this city is and how many people it approximately has,so does Shenzhen City.

Guangzhou is one of the moost sky-booming cities in the world...
Twin Towers, 432m y 110f, u/c
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*Images from skyscrapers.cn
^^I don't like the design. The towers look like 2 smoke stacks from afar, IMO. no offense...:)

I am sure this is incorrect

you can visit National Bureau of Statistics of China(http://www.stats.gov.cn/english/index.htm)
to check with these data

Shenzhen currently has the highest GDP per in Mainland China.
Hongkong has over $28000 in GDP per
I am talking about total metropolitan population,while Chongqing has around 30m is for sure
It is impossible that Guangzhou or Shenshen can compare population with Beijing.
I am an resident of Guangzhou City.I know how big this city is and how many people it approximately has,so does Shenzhen City.


maybe u mistook me.
i am living in shannhai.my population means "total nonagriculture people".chongqing has the population of 30m,but most of them are farmer,not citizen.and shenzhen has population of 20m,including nonlocal people---"farmer worker".

whatever this is a great thread

^^I don't like the design. The towers look like 2 smoke stacks from afar, IMO. no offense...:)

haha, do they look like the bottles of hair lotion?
Anyway, I believe the real ones should look better

I propose ShenZhen has a population of approx 3~4millions only,
while GuangZhou is the largest city in southen China.

maybe u mistook me.
i am living in shannhai.my population means "total nonagriculture people".chongqing has the population of 30m,but most of them are farmer,not citizen.and shenzhen has population of 20m,including nonlocal people---"farmer worker".


you must overestimate the quantity of "farmer worker" in Shenzhen City,there are no rooms for such scale of population,10M is the limit for this city.Actually you can estimate population size through aggregate food, or water consumption.

you must overestimate the quantity of "farmer worker" in Shenzhen City,there are no rooms for such scale of population,10M is the limit for this city.Actually you can estimate population size through aggregate food, or water consumption.

i think this analysis is so reasonable,if u could read chinease.

准确可靠的人口数据对国家宏观调控、地方政府管理和企业经济决策具有非常重要的作用。本文通过对深圳的城区建成区面积、供水用水总量、外贸出口总量、移动电话用户总数、年门急诊总量等数据进行分析，相对准确地估算出深圳地区实际人口数量。分析表明深圳地区实际人口数量在2004年底已经突破1,800万。面对如此庞大的人口数据，作者提出了部分应对策略与建议。
　　
　　关键词：区域人口 人口估算
　　
　　1 深圳人口估算的意义
　　
　　深圳究竟有多少人口？除了政府公布的人口数据，至今无人能提供令人信服的答案。人们对于政府公布的人口数据提出相当多的质疑[1]。深圳人口增长迅猛，从人们公认的千万规模来计算，年复合增长率举世罕见，高达15%。深圳人口高流动性、高增长率加上国家户籍制度、各地人口管理方式、财政和人力的低投入使得政府都难以拿出一个准确数据。即使是五年一度的人口普查也因人口的高流动性加上普查数据的静态性使得公布人口缺乏应有的效用。
　　
　　珠三角数以千万计的外来劳工的就业、健康、生活、养老等问题关系到我国新时期建设和谐社会目标的实现，关系到国家的稳定和长治久安。改革开放以来，以深圳为代表的珠三角地区出口加工贸易迅猛增加。面对数以十亿计的中国人口，几乎没有人怀疑中国劳动力供应的有限性，但2004年年初开始并持续至今的珠三角地区的“劳工荒”否定了人们这一看法，引起了政府、企业和学界的重视。通过对珠三角区域人口的估算，一方面可以回答中国劳动力供应是否有限，另一方面使国家认识到珠三角地区数以千万计的人口带来的诸多直接和潜在的问题严重性和解决的紧迫性，而准确的人口数据是解决这些问题的第一步。
　　
　　深圳很多的建设项目因为没有真实的人口数据支持，凸显规划缺乏远见。2004年末，深圳地铁开通不到一个月就因超载导致服务一度暂停[2]，造成这种情况的主要原因是因为设计者没有考虑到深圳实际人口数量。可信的人口数据不但有利于地方政府的宏观决策与管理，而且也有利于企业的决策。人口普查的数据相对准确可靠，但缺点在于：需要国家投入巨大的财力与人力，个人与企业很难有实力开展人口普查工作；得出的结果只能反映静态人口数据。人口估算既可以避免人口普查的不足，又可以作为普查数据的验证和补充。
　　
　　2 区域人口定义和人口估算方法概述
　　
　　2.1 区域人口定义
　　
　　深圳地区包括罗湖、福田、南山和盐田关内四区以及关外的宝安、龙岗两区，总面积约1,948Km2。深圳区域人口是指在深圳居住、工作和学习超过半年时间（含）以上的人口，包括拥有深圳户口（红印户口和蓝印户口）、暂住人口（拥有暂住证且在深圳住留时间超过半年时间或以上，也包括虽没有办理暂住证但在深圳地区居留时间超过半年或以上），不包括商务、旅游、过境等流动性较大的人口。
　　
　　2.2 人口估算方法概述
　　
　　2.2.1 从城区建成面积来估算
　　
　　城市人口与城区建成区面积成正比例关系。如表3所示，全国几个特大城市的老城区基本上全部是建成区，人口密度极高，南方城市广州中心城区户籍人口密度高达4万/ Km2。随着城市化进程的加快，全国各地城区建成面积迅速扩张，湘西南隆回县城所在地桃花坪镇10年城区建成面积扩大10倍，人口总数由原来的3万余人增加到目前的40余万。
　　
　　表 1 中国人口密度极高的城区[3]
　　
　　
　　城市 人口密度极高城区 面积(Km2) 人口总数(万人) 人口密度(万/ Km2)
　　北京 东城、西城、崇文、宣武 93 241 2.59
　　天津 和平、河东、河西
　　南开区、河北、红桥 173 381 2.20
　　沈阳 沈河、和平、大东、皇姑、铁西 166 337 2.03
　　上海 黄浦、卢湾、徐汇、长宁区、静安、普陀、闸北、虹口、杨浦 289 632 2.15
　　广州 越秀、东山、荔湾 37 158 4.27
　　重庆 喻中 22 60 2.73
　　昆明 盘龙、五华 31 96 3.10
　　西安 莲湖、新城、碑林 91 173 1.90
　　合计/建成区平均人口密度 902 2,078 2.30
　　
　　利用城区建成面积来进行比较估算人口有几个优点：一是我国对城市建设有严格的报批审核程序，建成区面积较为准确且数据较容易得到；二是利用建成区估算人口时可选择相同或相近地区人口密度加以比较，估算得来的数据可信度较高；三是可以解决人口普查在人力、财力耗费巨大及只能提供静态数据等方面的缺点。
　　
　　2.2.2 从城市供水用水总量估算人口
　　
　　水是生命之源，也是一个地区经济发展的最重要制约之一。城市供水用水总量是可以相对准确地测量，人均用水量也可以通过调查和测算来得到。城镇生活用水总量与城市人口也成正比例关系，知道用水总量和人均用水量，就可以相对准确地估算人口总量。
　　
　　全国各省区城镇人均日生活用水量数据历年都有统计[4]，广东城镇人均生活用水量高于同一纬度的广西50%，城镇人均用水量高于南方任何一个省份。并非广东生活水平高了用水就会自然高于其他省区，事实上广东十分缺水。2004年底，珠三角缺水严重，国家不得不全流域调水缓解珠三角地区咸潮入侵 [5]。如果将全国的人均日生活用水做一个统计图表，就会发现经济发达地区的人均用水量大大高于经济欠发达地区，最合理的解释就是中国户籍制度使得经济发达地区的人口统计数大大低于实际人口数。
　　
　　2.2.3 人口估算的其他辅助方法
　　
　　人口估算不能使用某一种方法，有时需要同时使用几种方法，不同估算方法可以互相验证和补充，进而提高估算数据的可信度。
　　
　　从外来工通过邮局汇款总额可以估算来自外省农村的劳动力人口数量。此外，地区出口贸易总量、移动电话用户总数、年门急诊总量、春运地区总人次、人均蔬菜消费量、深圳出租房总面积等数据都可以用来估算人口。只要与人口数成正比例，确定比例系数，就可以估算出人口数据。
　　
　　3 人口估算
　　
　　3.1 从城区建成面积来估算
　　
　　3.1.1 关内四区人口
　　
　　关内罗湖、福田、南山三区面积为321Km2，基本上全部为城区。按全国老城区人口密度的平均值2.30万/ Km2来估算，三区人口总数为738万。考虑到区内道路、绿化面积、办公用楼面积较大，人口密度按广州越秀、东山、荔湾三区平均值的40%计算，三区人口总数578万。
　　
　　三区还有面积达10 Km2的“城中村”。10 Km2的“城中村”可住有多少人呢？按女记者涂俏的《生存体验》[6]中数据来估算，每Km2的“城中村”可住256万人。关内“城中村”楼层高度不低于 8层，每层约为120m2，占地150m2。按每层居住人数为3人，8层共24人，则每Km2居住的外来人口数为16万，10Km2的“城中村”可住 160万人。为了提高估算数据的可信度，只将城中村人口数据作为关内三区人口估算数据的调整。
　　
　　盐田区面积75.68 Km2，估算数据为30万。由上可知关内四区395Km2的面积，人口最少为608万。
　　
　　3.1.2 宝安区人口
　　
　　2003年宝安区城区建成面积政府公布为220Km2，2004年底实际建成区面积为250Km2，政府和学者研究表明整个宝安区人口数量超过400万。虽然关外楼层普遍高度要比关内低，但由于缺乏规划，关外道路、绿化面积少，工厂林立，人口密度高于关内。例如位于深圳经济特区西部的沙井镇，全镇总面积60多Km2，光政府统计的外来人口就有80多万；宝安区的大型花园小区桃花源，1 Km2居民总数超过5万，人口密度之高可见一斑。以2.50万/ Km2的人口密度估算，宝安区250 Km2的建成区实际人口为625万。宝安分街道人口进行对比分析，估算人口为627万，如图表2所示。
　　
　　表2分街道人口估算表
　　
　　
　　宝安区街道 面积（Km2） 公布人口（万人）估算人口（万人）龙岗区街道 面积（Km2） 公布人口（万人）估算人口（万人）
　　西乡 93 45 100 布吉 84.08 30 200
　　沙井 60 75 90 龙岗 130 75 140
　　福永 58 15 96 横岗 83.97 18 90
　　龙华 98 17 70 平湖 40.77 15 50
　　松岗 92 16 70 坪山 127.22 10 40
　　公明 97 16 30 坪地 53.14 7 45
　　石岩 79 9 45 坑梓 40.49 5.3 20
　　观澜 88 12 40 葵涌 98.86 5.4 10
　　新安 24 34 66 大鹏 76.24 3.2 6
　　光明 55 - 20 南澳 114.04 2.4 4
　　合计 744 240 627 合 计 848 94.36 605
　　
　　3.1.3 龙岗区人口估算
　　
　　虽然龙岗区面积比宝安区约多100Km2，但人口略少于宝安区，两区的产业结构、人口结构基本相似。龙岗区的布吉、横岗、龙岗、平湖街道经济最为发达。例如，布吉东部以桂芳园为中心，周围3千米内就有70万人，人口密度高达2.48万/每Km2；布吉南岭村外来工多达20余万，人口密度高达6 万/ Km2；横岗的六约村本地人口2,700余人，外来工15万多，人口密度之高可见一斑。
　　
　　龙岗区城区建成面积2003年政府公布为200 Km2。2004年末，城区建成区估计为240 Km2。人口密度按宝安区数值来估算，龙岗区人口为600万。龙岗分街道人口进行对比分析，估算人口为605万，如图表2所示。
　　
　　3.1.4 深圳总人口超过1,800万
　　
　　表3 2004年末深圳各区人口估算表
　　城区名称 估计数（万人） 估计人口密度（万/ Km2）
　　福田区 210 2.69
　　罗湖区 190 2.40
　　南山区 170 1.03
　　盐田区 30 0.43
　　宝安区 627 0.88
　　龙岗区 605 0.72
　　合 计 1,832 0.94
　　
　　1,800万的数据可靠吗？深圳户籍人口165万，而调查表明，户籍人口与外来人口的比例低于1：10，部分居委会达到1：80。按1：10计算，深圳总人口超过1,800万。
　　
　　3.2 从供水用水量来估算
　　
　　深圳市水利部门的数据表明，关内日均供水量约160万m3。南方大城市人均日生活用水量为261升，据此数据计算，关内人口数应为613万，与前面按城区建成面积来估算数据相差不大。2003年全市总供水量为13.6亿m3，据此计算人口数为1,427万。关外的工业园区大部分为外来工，其人均用水量远低于261升的水平。
　　
　　随着工业和人口的急剧增长，水资源出现严重短缺，供求矛盾十分突出，成了制约深圳经济发展的最主要矛盾。2003年，全国城镇人均日生活用水量为211升，据此估算，深圳人口为1,766万。深圳人均日生活用水量与湖南城镇人均日生活用水量相当，湖南城镇缺水程度低于深圳，说明这一估算数据十分保守。
　　
　　或许有人会问，深圳作为一个工业性城市，工业用水应当占有相当大的比例，但很少有公司用自来水进行工业生产，因为费用太高，耗水量大的企业早已迁出深圳。关外人口日均生活用水量为164升，主要用来洗澡、洗衣和饮用。以1,000人的工厂计算，如人均用水150升每日，则该工厂日生活用水 150 m3。深圳日均用水需求为500万m3，按南方大城市日均生活用水261升计算，深圳人口为1,915万。况且南方大城市基本上都有相当数量的外来工， 261升/日的数据实际上高了一点。因此，从供水用水总量来看，也可以得出深圳人口总数超过1800万的结论。
　　
　　3.3 其他人口估算方法
　　
　　3.3.1 从外来工通过邮局汇款总额来估算
　　
　　2000年深圳通过邮局寄出的汇款总额达164亿元，2001年深圳外来工通过邮局汇款总额达到185亿元。若每年汇款数按10%的比例递增，2004年通过邮局寄出的款项总数超过240亿元。由于银行很少在农村设立网点，来自偏远农村的外来工要想汇款回家，只有通过邮局或者自己带回家。
　　
　　小样本调查表明，外来工每年通过邮局向家里汇款1,659元人民币。以全年240亿元计算，来自全国各省农村的外来工高达1,446万；考虑到调查误差，取人均汇款120%来计算，农村外来工总数为1,205万。来自省外城镇、广东本省的外来人口、深圳原居民基本上无需通过邮局向外省汇款，全国城镇户籍人口超过40%，由此推算，深圳人口应该超过2,000万。人口估算从低不从高，仍将1,800万作为深圳人口估算数据。
　　
　　3.3.2 外贸出口分析法
　　
　　2004年深圳出口总值为778.56亿美元[7]，出口产品的加工基本上是由第二产业从业人员来完成。出口总额中高新技术产品出口 350.6亿美元，高新技术产品每亿美元从业人员为2,000至1.5万不等，平均每亿美元为8,000个劳动力，而非高新技术产品每亿美元从业人员为1 万至3万，平均约为2万人。因此，从出口总额来估算，高新技术产品从业人员为280万，非高新技术产品从业人员高达850万，二者合计超过1100万。 2004年深圳生产总值估计为3,422亿元，其中来自出口带动的GDP为出口总额的20%，即1288亿元人民币（汇率以8.27计算），第一、三产业创造的GDP约为2134亿元。第一、第三产业从业人员估计超过700万，即人均GDP为3万元。
　　
　　
　　调查表明,第二产业中有15%左右的人口住在出租房里或住自有房产,而第一、三产业大部分人口住在出租房或住自有房产。2004年统计表明，深圳有1.8亿平方米的出租房；出租房人口密度相当高，部分如“城中村”一样；以人均25 m2计算，出租房住有720万人口，加上第二产业中935万住在公司，二者合计为1,655万，再加上深圳户籍人口，同样得出深圳人口超过1，800万的结论。
　　
　　3.3.3 移动电话拥有量分析法
　　
　　2002年深圳移动用户总数超过650万户， 2003年未为871万，每年新增用户在30%以上，2004年底深圳拥有手机的人数超过1,000万。2005年底深圳手机用户总数估计为1,428万户，2006年底深圳手机用户总数估计为1,856万户，接近一人一机。届时人口总数可见分晓。
　　
　　3.3.4 春运旅客发送量分析法
　　
　　春运40天旅客发送总量基本上占到全年的15%，由此推算2003年深圳春运发送总人次约750万[7]。众所周知，回乡旅客主要是湖南、江西、广西、湖北等地，大量的四川旅客由于回乡费用高昂而回去次数很少。2004年，深圳外来回乡人数超过800万，由于返乡之艰难，越来越多的人选择留在深圳过春节，以50%的人返乡计算，深圳人口突破1,600万。此外深圳有相当多的本省人员农村劳动力，本省占到15%。实际上，春运期间相当多的外来工以包车的形式回家，此数不在客运总数统计范围之内。从以上事实推断，深圳实际人口数据超过1,800万。
　　
　　3.3.5 全年门急诊总量分析法
　　
　　2003年深圳各级各类医疗机构完成诊疗量3052.10万人次[7]，增长13.5%。2004年增长率若为10%，则2004年门急诊总量为3,357万人次。同期台湾人年均门急诊量5次左右，深圳人均年门、急诊量为1.8次，由此估算深圳人口为1,865万。
　　
　　关外医疗卫生条件远低于关内，据市卫生部门统计，2004年上半年，全市共取缔非法门诊4,512个。非法门诊存在的根源在于关外医疗资源的严重不足。一个6,000人的大厂，若人均每年门、急诊2次，若以300个工作日计算，则意味着平均每天有40人进医院，这根本是不可能的。深圳是全国最年轻的城市，伤病相对来说比例应该是全国最低的。由此估算深圳1800万人口数据也是可信的。
　　
　　4 结语
　　
　　1,800万的庞大人口给深圳造成严重压力并制约深圳今后长远发展。深圳合理人口规模为700-1,000万。因此，以出口贸易加工为主体的企业将持续外迁至深圳其他城市发展用地较为宽松、环境承受能力较大的地区，如近年中山、珠海、江门、惠州等地出口加工贸易增长迅速，产业转移加快，越来越多的外来劳动力流向上述地区；深圳今后要继续大力扶持高新技术、低耗能、低耗水工业和第三产业的发展，在继续积极吸引外资的同时要特别注意“选资”；减少人口对环境的压力要从减少低附加值出口加工工业开始，逐步淘汰那些连最低工资和社会保障都支付不起的企业。
　　
　　深圳人口控制可分三步走：2010年深圳出口总额估计为1000亿美元左右，出口加工产业对外来劳动力的需求依然强劲，特区政府应控制人口持续增长，保持1,800万不再增加；2015年力争将人口减少到1,500万左右；2020年将人口控制在1,200万的规模。
　　
　　笔者在完成珠三角地区的深圳、东莞、广州、佛山、中山、珠海、江门、肇庆、惠州九市的人口估算后，推算广东省人口总数为1.29亿，与政府最近公布的1.21亿人口相差6.2%。

This city is unbelievably booming! :cheers1:

I'm impressed by what's going on in China. Lots of these cities are beginning to look very futuristic like something out of Sci-Fi novel...
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That twins are so amazing!!!!!

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Guangzhou really need some face lifting,particularly the government build apartrment located in the city,they are eye sore.
When it come urban planning,Guangzhou can learn a lot from her neighbor Hong Kong,I recall back in the late 60's the central are full public building with there dirty laundry hanging out side ,Tai ping san were full squatters ,Now central area are dominated tall skyscraper,the whole area under goes massive face lift.

Guangzhou is pouring investment to tackle pollutions. This summer, the Head of Guangdong province Mr Huang Huahua, together with the mayor of Guangzhou Mr Zhang Guangning and 3,500 Guangzhou citizens swam across the once-polluted Zhujiang River to signify the achievements of the strict environmental protection measures the authority has been carrying out since 2003.
Zhujiang River has never been swam across for 29 years, mainly due to severe pollutions from factories across the river banks. The authority has projected that in 5 years, Zhujiang River will be as clean as it ever be.
On a national scale, environmental protection is also a major task. China is to spend 175bn in the coming 5 years to improve the air, water and soil conditions polluted due to China's large-scale industrialisation in the past 20 years.

Awesome city! I LOVE the new towers going up! World Class for sure!!! :)

Some great stuff there when it comes to the really tall ones.

More photos about the new CBD of Guangzhou.

Actually, Guangzhou is the capital of the Guangdong province, the richest area in China.
It also hosts the Guangzhou(Canton) fair, the largest fair in China which attracts more than 400,000 people from all over the world ever year.

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LOL when I was there it was so empty - Citic Plaza had just been finished and was still unlandscaped ... look at everything now! Seeing all these new buildings is simply amazing! I am loving the style of most of these new additions too.

My opinion on guangzhou is that its always incredibly polluted, theres almost a constant complete cloud cover, its way too crowded, the citys design is very uninspiring, there are too many beggars, forget seeing any stars at night, the clouds will most likely be covering the sky, and if they arent u'll probly be able to see, one or two white specks.

The traffic is terrible, the clifford bus system b/w gz and clifford is good tho, really cheap and the buses are pretty decent.

Guanzhous apparent statement at being a "garden city" or something is such crap, the whole environment of guangzhou and the surrounding region is so screwed up, just random buildings everywhere, very little vegetation at all, some mountains are seeminly chopped away to make more room.

Guangzhou is officially urban hell, it must hav the worst planning of any city ever, the nightclubs are all pathetic, there are too many malls with exactly the same boring shops selling fake crap.

All the renders of the buildings u/c / planned, will never become reality in that, the sky will most likely never be that blue, and the pollution probly wont even let you see most of them from a short distance away.

Guangzhou doesn't deserve these buildings, they are just trying to show off with all this uneccessary crap, and it disgusts me.

BTW ive lived in clifford for 2 years now.

BTW ive lived in clifford for 2 years now.

Where's is that clifford?

Wtf?!? Everywhere in China, you see development! :applause:

I like the twin towers. My girl thanks Im crazy because im more attracted to symmetrical designs.

Guangzhou is crazy!!!!!!!!! China is booming all over the country! It's unbelievable!

My opinion on guangzhou is that its always incredibly polluted, theres almost a constant complete cloud cover, its way too crowded, the citys design is very uninspiring, there are too many beggars, forget seeing any stars at night, the clouds will most likely be covering the sky, and if they arent u'll probly be able to see, one or two white specks.

The traffic is terrible, the clifford bus system b/w gz and clifford is good tho, really cheap and the buses are pretty decent.

Guanzhous apparent statement at being a "garden city" or something is such crap, the whole environment of guangzhou and the surrounding region is so screwed up, just random buildings everywhere, very little vegetation at all, some mountains are seeminly chopped away to make more room.

Guangzhou is officially urban hell, it must hav the worst planning of any city ever, the nightclubs are all pathetic, there are too many malls with exactly the same boring shops selling fake crap.


All the renders of the buildings u/c / planned, will never become reality in that, the sky will most likely never be that blue, and the pollution probly wont even let you see most of them from a short distance away.

Guangzhou doesn't deserve these buildings, they are just trying to show off with all this uneccessary crap, and it disgusts me.

BTW ive lived in clifford for 2 years now.

I am not sure when and where did you live in Guangzhou .But obviously Guangzhou is not that bad as what you describe.
If you don't like rendering, then I show you some real photos without being PSed. Actually the only thing I can see from your reply is jealousy

Guangzhou is a modern city with 2,800 years history!
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My opinion on guangzhou is that its always incredibly polluted, theres almost a constant complete cloud cover, its way too crowded, the citys design is very uninspiring, there are too many beggars, forget seeing any stars at night, the clouds will most likely be covering the sky, and if they arent u'll probly be able to see, one or two white specks.

The traffic is terrible, the clifford bus system b/w gz and clifford is good tho, really cheap and the buses are pretty decent.

Guanzhous apparent statement at being a "garden city" or something is such crap, the whole environment of guangzhou and the surrounding region is so screwed up, just random buildings everywhere, very little vegetation at all, some mountains are seeminly chopped away to make more room.

Guangzhou is officially urban hell, it must hav the worst planning of any city ever, the nightclubs are all pathetic, there are too many malls with exactly the same boring shops selling fake crap.

All the renders of the buildings u/c / planned, will never become reality in that, the sky will most likely never be that blue, and the pollution probly wont even let you see most of them from a short distance away.

Guangzhou doesn't deserve these buildings, they are just trying to show off with all this uneccessary crap, and it disgusts me.

BTW ive lived in clifford for 2 years now.

More photos for you!
More photos about the modern and ancient Guangzhou!
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Wow! 10 years ago this city was probably smaller than Smallton, Montana! One just wonders how China will manage to keep the control of its people... All these buildings are great creations, but at the expense of poor Chinese labourers that make $.27 an hour!

My opinion on guangzhou is that its always incredibly polluted, theres almost a constant complete cloud cover, its way too crowded, the citys design is very uninspiring, there are too many beggars, forget seeing any stars at night, the clouds will most likely be covering the sky, and if they arent u'll probly be able to see, one or two white specks.

The traffic is terrible, the clifford bus system b/w gz and clifford is good tho, really cheap and the buses are pretty decent.

Guanzhous apparent statement at being a "garden city" or something is such crap, the whole environment of guangzhou and the surrounding region is so screwed up, just random buildings everywhere, very little vegetation at all, some mountains are seeminly chopped away to make more room.

Guangzhou is officially urban hell, it must hav the worst planning of any city ever, the nightclubs are all pathetic, there are too many malls with exactly the same boring shops selling fake crap.

All the renders of the buildings u/c / planned, will never become reality in that, the sky will most likely never be that blue, and the pollution probly wont even let you see most of them from a short distance away.

Guangzhou doesn't deserve these buildings, they are just trying to show off with all this uneccessary crap, and it disgusts me.

BTW ive lived in clifford for 2 years now.
fully agree with you, I visited Quangzhou last april,dissappointed by the city.
the city is still long way to go.traveling from Quangzhou to Hong Kong is just like switching black and white TV to color television.

Quangzhou is a beautiful city. :D Obviously, Quangzhou is booming and the rest of China is booming because the 21st century is the Asian century. Nearly everything/product is made in China. Unfortunately, the "majority white people" countries in Europe, North America, Australia etc... are worsening/getting worse and worse. Congratulations to China and the rest of Asia for improving so much over the last 20 years and China and the rest of Asia will become even more successful in the the next 10-20 years. It is Asia's time.

Guangzhou has developed alot over these years. I know the city lacks in some areas like air, traffic, skyline, etc... but overall I think just because of that dosent make a city on how bad or terrible it is. Guangzhou is one of the best cities in the world to me. The photos and renderings of the skyscrapers and towers are just amazing!

holy-crap-didy-crap-crap! nice pictures of a beautiful city!

Wow! 10 years ago this city was probably smaller than Smallton, Montana! One just wonders how China will manage to keep the control of its people... All these buildings are great creations, but at the expense of poor Chinese labourers that make $.27 an hour!
no, guangzhou has always been a big city, it was the second city in china reach 1 million population after beijing like 200 years ago and it has been the biggest city in the south 4 long time

He's probably referring to Shenzhen which was a fishing village before the government decided to make it a SEZ.

From the pictures Guangzhou doesn't look that bad at all to me. Though since I have never been there I don't really know what it is like.

http://static.flickr.com/75/190678641_99b9619c01_o.jpg
:runaway:

OOOPS must change pants. Just had massive geekgasm.

amazing

More projects

260m
http://static.flickr.com/61/220882021_d78b87651b_o.jpg

Victory Plaza, 222m, 52f u/c
http://static.flickr.com/56/220874453_ea8f03e5f5_o.jpg

Teemtower Office Building, 195m, 45f u/c
http://static.flickr.com/62/220874450_2204061252_o.jpg

Ming Sing Plaza, 32f
http://static.flickr.com/73/220874027_e480f6d0df_o.jpg

Haizhu City Plaza, 51f
http://static.flickr.com/84/220874026_d387456c6b_o.jpg

China Shine Plaza 187m 45f
http://static.flickr.com/91/220874025_87fffdeb2c_o.jpg

Unknown
http://static.flickr.com/94/220874556_58e98c6891_o.jpg

HUGE project rencelty approved
6 residential condos 40-60 floors
http://static.flickr.com/67/220874024_ddc2ac8738_o.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/86/220874023_2a55599686_o.jpg

PLUS Hotel tower
http://static.flickr.com/69/220874022_a0e22d01d2_o.jpg

Huge residential projects. I love them :)


The Riverside
2x50f
2x45f
2x36f
2x27f
http://static.flickr.com/85/220874555_c823e3e4db_o.jpg

The Harbourside, 48f
http://static.flickr.com/62/220874554_728cf50f07_o.jpg

The Cosmos, 46f
http://static.flickr.com/71/220874456_51cecea3a5_o.jpg

Eastern Plaza, 39f
http://static.flickr.com/66/220874454_78af209680_o.jpg

Another
http://static.flickr.com/89/220874455_039c907315_o.jpg

^^Nice projects.

Yesterday i was in Guangzhou, and i have to say it is really incredible! So many cranes and u.c. skyscrapers. Guanzhou has already an impressive skyline, but when all this is completed it will be a true skyscrapercity which should be in the top 10 of the world skylines. :okay:

Too bad the weather was not so good (rain and high humidity) so it was not possible to make good pictures. :(

Guangzhou's new scrapers are so creative and modern as well.

damn you china... you are desensitising me!

That's true! guangzhou is amazing, i want to restart the dicussion about Guangzhou now.

http://static.flickr.com/94/220874556_58e98c6891_o.jpg

This building that you call unknown, I think its the Taikoo Hui Guangzhou Cultural Plaza, UC, by Swire Its gonna be a really huge complex 450 000sqm+

Got to say I'm surprised about the quality of these structures, go Guangzhou!

fantastic news. ive had quite a bit to do with Guangzhou since my uncle has been teaching English there.

this is best ever where i can practise my cantonese and every bar is so friendly, cheap,cute and skycrapers city!I will go there another time.

From the pictures Guangzhou doesn't look that bad at all to me. Though since I have never been there I don't really know what it is like.
It like wat u ve seen here, except there is no twins tower and TV station, thoes buildings are underconstructed!

keep the pictures coming :) GO GUangZHOU!

Amazing!!
Superb!!

Host city of the next Asian Games:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Enn_AjB6Iw8&search=guangzhou
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOIVHZE3G1A&mode=related&search=guangzhou

http://static.flickr.com/61/220882021_d78b87651b_o.jpg

Does anyone have more info on this one?? Looks like it could be residential? Where is it supposed to be built etc... :cheers:

^^wow great tower.

More projects
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200m
http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/9752/200mkr2.jpg

http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/1838/nanshapersyp8.jpg

153m, 37f
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/9317/153m37fxy5.jpg

Just amazing!

Its extremely arrogant how some people here assume that "White people countries" will just decline and that China is the be-all-and-end-all of everything, etc. What an extremely arrogant and foolish thing to believe. People in europe, north america, south america, etc.. will still be living their lives, and ejoying our lives throughout the 21st century. Just because they are not Chinese, just because they may have less skyscrapers around them, etc, doesn't mean that their future is dim or dismall looking. - I believe your arrogant viewpoints are actually imperialistic and disgusting, also rather short-sighted. Without those "white people countries" who would buy your products allowing you to grow economically? Think about that.

^^ Stop bringing the racist crap to this thread. No body here said "white people countries" will just decline. You made up by yourself from your racist mind and envy psychology.

^^ Whose posts are you refering to?
EDIT: I'm talking to aquablue.

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http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/6379/img52596uhhmcobq3whmf9.jpg

http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/7243/img5264xpc85uxflbcsvt6.jpg
the big one is so amazingggggggggggggg...holy shit, guangzhou is so futuristic

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This one looks very tall, I think it's going to be built next to the twin towers.
http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/5761/j0xjp1000643hyhqeaosuhxgn6.jpg

the thing that sickens me about this whole construction boom in guangzhou is that its totally uneccessary, if you've ever lived in guangzhou u'd see just how much other stuff they need to be spending money on, the poverty here is unbelievable, the pollution is a very big problem and to be honest, most of the office buildings being built never ever get filled.

i went into CITIC plaza just to see wat kind of comps are using its office space and probably more that half the floors aren't even being used, its ridiculous.

the thing that sickens me about this whole construction boom in guangzhou is that its totally uneccessary, if you've ever lived in guangzhou u'd see just how much other stuff they need to be spending money on, the poverty here is unbelievable, the pollution is a very big problem and to be honest, most of the office buildings being built never ever get filled.

i went into CITIC plaza just to see wat kind of comps are using its office space and probably more that half the floors aren't even being used, its ridiculous.

And you are so sure they are empty because? Are you implying that the investors just built the towers for fun without anticipating any profit in return? Yea, chinese are that dumb arent they. Brother, take my advice, cut the fxxcing shit.

the thing that sickens me about this whole construction boom in guangzhou is that its totally uneccessary, if you've ever lived in guangzhou u'd see just how much other stuff they need to be spending money on, the poverty here is unbelievable, the pollution is a very big problem and to be honest, most of the office buildings being built never ever get filled.

i went into CITIC plaza just to see wat kind of comps are using its office space and probably more that half the floors aren't even being used, its ridiculous.

you INDEED know nothing about guangzhou . If people read your all posts regard to guangzhou, they will find out that you are really ridiculous.
http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=396477
please ,find a city in your beloved country to march her.

the thing that sickens me about this whole construction boom in guangzhou is that its totally uneccessary, if you've ever lived in guangzhou u'd see just how much other stuff they need to be spending money on, the poverty here is unbelievable, the pollution is a very big problem and to be honest, most of the office buildings being built never ever get filled.

i went into CITIC plaza just to see wat kind of comps are using its office space and probably more that half the floors aren't even being used, its ridiculous.

When did you come to Guangzhou? 10 years ago?
The rental rate of CITIC plaza is almost 100%.

If you can read Chinese, you can google the keyword "中信广场 出租率"(Citic plaza rental rate). Every article mentions that the rental rate of CITIC plaza is almost 100%

天河北一带的中信广场、金利来大厦、大都会广场等，出租率都达九成以上，中信广场出租率更高达98%以上。但经过多年发展，天河北的写字楼已没有更多的空间提供给外来

why people r so stupid.......these buildings r build by private investers, government only have the right 2 say yes or no, so do people think chinese businessmen r so stupid because they build so many skyscrapers and if they r really stupid,they will all be f**kin bancrupt because no one rent their office, but how come they keep building it,becuase they make profit fomr the renting and thats why they keep building more and more, china is a nation with 1.3 billion people, anythin can happen

the thing that sickens me about this whole construction boom in guangzhou is that its totally uneccessary, if you've ever lived in guangzhou u'd see just how much other stuff they need to be spending money on, the poverty here is unbelievable, the pollution is a very big problem and to be honest, most of the office buildings being built never ever get filled.

i went into CITIC plaza just to see wat kind of comps are using its office space and probably more that half the floors aren't even being used, its ridiculous.


It sickens me how ridiculous this post is...

Wow! 10 years ago this city was probably smaller than Smallton, Montana! One just wonders how China will manage to keep the control of its people... All these buildings are great creations, but at the expense of poor Chinese labourers that make $.27 an hour!

no, guangzhou is always a large city in china, a 10 million population grade.

why everyone said guangzhou is heavily poluted?
i dont think so, i have been to guangzhou 3 times, i didnt find guangzhou heavy poplution.

the chinese cities are all so crazy

42 floors
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/3577/42fnp0.jpg

Wow, its really amazing how fast china is developing, if i compare guangzhou to what it looked like when i first got there and what it looks like today or even tomorrow, its like comparing two diffrent cities...

Luogang New Area
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v641/z0rg/JiMzMzgyMTsmIw_APgBZPu3SOxO.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v641/z0rg/LuogangCentralArea.jpg


More projects
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v641/z0rg/guangzhou_hotelhome_53oNQyFlqI0u_am.jpg

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v641/z0rg/171m.jpg

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Recenlty finished projects
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v641/z0rg/37f.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v641/z0rg/JiMyNDE5MTumew_c1unxuYYlvPT.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v641/z0rg/IMGP4922_COd3D8WaLkcA.jpg

Guangzhou subway planned net.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v641/z0rg/01C6A337_EOa8i25eZtlf.jpg

the metro looks huge, wow, i love guangzhou, and the projects in gz r perfect

@Kenwen, check your private messages, please :)

Just amazing! :eek2:

Stunning!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v641/z0rg/lj_JEavkIqYr9Xb.jpg

This picture is so amazing :)

^ Yeah, insane infastructure! :yes:

wooooooooow they are brilliant projects

AMAZING!

Asia Pacific Century Plaza (亞太世紀廣場), 289m, 57f. Almost a supertall!!
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/6222/asiapacificcenturyplaza1wj1.jpg

This is supposed to be u/c. I'm looking forward to opening a thread about this project at construction and updates subforum, but I couldn't find any pic of the construction site. If some of you guys find one please post it :)

great tower, love the design :)

Ye its a nice time to live in Guangzhou. The city scape is changing all the time and the public transport (metro system) is excellent and also being expanded. :)

This is my favorite city!Amazing cheap but still fancy!

Asia Pacific Century Plaza (亞太世紀廣場), 289m, 57f. Almost a supertall!!
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/6222/asiapacificcenturyplaza1wj1.jpg

This is supposed to be u/c. I'm looking forward to opening a thread about this project at construction and updates subforum, but I couldn't find any pic of the construction site. If some of you guys find one please post it :)

Oh is it for the plot next to that CITIC? i have seen like 4 proposals for that one, but i think this might be the best one! As far as i know its just a hole in the ground, but then i havent been to gz for about 8 months so..:dunno: .. Somone with more recent experiences that know whats going on?

^^ Could you post the other propsals here, please? :D

According to skyscrapers.cn diagrams, it seems that they chose this one. You can see this project at this image too:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v641/z0rg/lj_JEavkIqYr9Xb.jpg

It is visible on google earth as a construction site (hole in the ground basicly) so its uc for sure!

This:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/Johan_Mann/b1103321139_1296.jpg

And this:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/Johan_Mann/004.jpg

Was the only ones i found on my harddrive, sorry...

^^ Wow, thanks for sharing. The first one is very promising! But are you sure they are the same project as the one I posted? This render seems to be surrounded by highways:
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/6222/asiapacificcenturyplaza1wj1.jpg

And there isn't any river next to the CITIC Plaza
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v641/z0rg/lj_JEavkIqYr9Xb.jpg

Maybe this is a different project?

Maybe they are diffrent. but if you look at your first pic it feels like its supposed to be on this plot. And my first pic and your first pic have a very similair design maybe yours is an updated one that they are actually building?

I really dont know, but i would like to know! If its two diffrent projects that means there is going to be 2 more nice buildings in GZ :)

I dunno. Who knows, constructing a nice biggie with his little son next to it is traditional in Guangzhou anyway :D

I am not sure but the addres for Asia Pacific Century Plaza is Tianhe Road North / Linhe Road Central, Tianhe. Which means that it indeed is next to CITIC. Your second pic, well either its a very similair project OR the people that made that pic just "put" that building there because they thought it looked good, maybe its the same design company??

Yeah, I think you're right. The three designs are amazing, what a pitty they'll only build one of them.

What a city!

2 years ago, while staying in baiyun hotel (white cloud) I notice tall skyscraper across the street,the building is nearly finish,but run out of money,since early 2006 it was revived.do anyone got any update,may be picture?

More info about this project: 260m and 70 floors
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v641/z0rg/260m.jpg

200m, 45 floors
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v641/z0rg/200m45.jpg

Top View, 150m, 45 floors
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v641/z0rg/TopView45f150m.jpg

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Great city!

Hey Zorg, would it possible for you to find some names for thoose project and where they are supposed to get built? It would be great to know, cuz then its easier to know how the city is developing... Great pics mate!

Guangzhou really need some urban renewal,old building particulary those built in 60's to early 70's are eye sore.

Guangzhou is the captial city of Guangdong province,
just approx 200km north west of Hongkong and far from Shanghai,
she is alway the most important city in South China,
even HK can never challange her status.

She is the largest city in southen half and is the second important economy (in terms of city), the 1st one is Shanghai.

She is very old but getting the chance of 2010 Asian Games to promote her international "brandname",
just like Seoul in 1986 Asian Games and 1988 Olympic.

Guangzhou is the captial city of Guangdong province,
just approx 200km north west of Hongkong and far from Shanghai,
she is alway the most important city in South China,
even HK can never challange her status.

She is the largest city in southen half and is the second important economy (in terms of city), the 1st one is Shanghai.

She is very old but getting the chance of 2010 Asian Games to promote her international "brandname",
just like Seoul in 1986 Asian Games and 1988 Olympic.

And Guangzhou is also the capital of overseas Cantonese all over the world. They oftenly go there to have some meetings! Nowadays, there are more and more hongkong people chose Guangzhou as the business places of them due to same language and culture along with the boom in economic of her.

I will go to guangzhou for 1 week in the beginning of next year. Are there any one there? meeting in guangzhou???

wow, when all these gets build, guangzhou will be really dense, i hope the city will expand eastward so that it can connect with dongguan

Ten years ago, it took me 2 hours to get to the Export trade show from the White Swan Hotel. Now a new trade show center is already in used, and the truffic jam is gone. If someone told me this will happen ten years ago, I would
say : is impossible.

Some renders of Zhujiang New City 2010
http://www.skyscrapers.cn/forum/attachments/q0KkSDMwNzg5_qknHghPPhnEU.jpg

http://www.skyscrapers.cn/forum/attachments/1167213425_wI3UQaSkDpme.jpg

Another render of Pearl River Tower, 309m, 73 floors
http://www.skyscrapers.cn/forum/attachments/1166976868_tNyf8EnxUWfM.jpg

Another render of the Twin Towers, 432m, 110 floors
http://www.skyscrapers.cn/forum/attachments/1158206160_YiGeVZukQPJW.jpg

New project
http://www.skyscrapers.cn/forum/attachments/YY_q1m2VTXMFNUu.jpg

My god, thoose pics took ages to download.. Anyways, they are nice but the tower in the last pic looks like it should be much much taller! now it looks like someone cut off the the bottom and just left the top for itself. hehehe :cheers:

I agree with Johan - that last tower would be a world-class design at 50-70 floors. That's not to say it doesn't look good as is, it would just be that much better if it was.

What's the construction status on the Twin Towers? It seems like they've been proposed for about a year now.

amazing!

I agree with Johan - that last tower would be a world-class design at 50-70 floors. That's not to say it doesn't look good as is, it would just be that much better if it was.

What's the construction status on the Twin Towers? It seems like they've been proposed for about a year now.

They are UC, and have been for quite some time now. There is a thread somewhere

Are both u/c? I thought it was just one?

well, at least one of them, but the hole in the ground is soo huge! :) Anyways they arent just proposed like Colemonke thought.. I will check out what is going on there, when i go to guangzhou for the chinese new year.

More renders of the cutest skyscraper in human history:


http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r5/z0rgg/2BDEB328916DE3E8D1FEFFFE7E70E2DA_N0.jpg

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http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r5/z0rgg/PearlRiverTower3_WrLHIlsaI3D2.jpg

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r5/z0rgg/PearlRiverTower4_yaM8vygBIFzt.jpg

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r5/z0rgg/PearlRiverTower5_t1kHw1YNNVCM.jpg

It will be very interesting to see how it works out in reality... I wonder if the wind through thoose holes will create som kind of noice? The idea is great anyway, and we really need more buildings like this to help the enviroment

Very great, these projects are really interesting. :cheers:

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M.ARTHUR GERSLER JR. & ASSOCIATES, INC.
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thank you very much z0rg, is the new Supertall already uc?

^^ No, they have to choose the design first ;)

PS: The renders are huge, sorry. I'm resizing them now.

^^ No, they have to choose the design first ;)

PS: The renders are huge, sorry. I'm resizing them now.

when will the project start?????

its too bad that for pretty much every good proposal that gets approved ten more crap ones start construction..i mean some of the apartment blocks coming up on the edge of the city are just disgraceful

and theyre not exactly being very forceful with the new law abt no motorbikes in the city centre, theyre still motorbikes there and they were supposed to be banned a month ago

at least theyre beginning to try with the pollution problem, but in the rainy season its still getting really really bad, its ok right now with the winter cold but who knows how bad its gonna get this year

im rambling now...

i just wish the canton government but be more strict on which proposals they approve, u drive along on the highway and see incredibly well designed buildings, but then right alongside them there might be decrepid looking old apartment buildings then u look next to them and theyre building even more of them...

WOW! Recently twinned, but this city just makes Birmingham look like Rochdale.

:applause:

its too bad that for pretty much every good proposal that gets approved ten more crap ones start construction..i mean some of the apartment blocks coming up on the edge of the city are just disgraceful

and theyre not exactly being very forceful with the new law abt no motorbikes in the city centre, theyre still motorbikes there and they were supposed to be banned a month ago

at least theyre beginning to try with the pollution problem, but in the rainy season its still getting really really bad, its ok right now with the winter cold but who knows how bad its gonna get this year

im rambling now...

i just wish the canton government but be more strict on which proposals they approve, u drive along on the highway and see incredibly well designed buildings, but then right alongside them there might be decrepid looking old apartment buildings then u look next to them and theyre building even more of them...

Hehe, I agree with you, however i think its part of guangzhous character! If every building would be perfect or everything aligned,uniform and clean, i think it would be really boring! And i wouldnt wanna live there, however they really need to improve on the enviroment...:cheers:

Fantastic, guangzhou looks like the next hong kong, well the're pretty much neighbours anyway, probably already one giant metropolis.

but the scrapers look magnificent, ultra-modern western style buildings.

but the scrapers look magnificent, ultra-modern western style buildings.

What do you mean by "western"? There is nothing like this in the "West" and the "West" is not the ultimate standard/ goal of modernisation.

^^ China had highrise structures over 12f (pagodas) before any Western country did :D

I was in Guangzhou last month, I loved it. Was so glad to be there after spending a day in Shenzhen (which I hated, too many hookers and dealers).

Guangzhou is a really cool place :bow:

i found both gz and sz full of hookers :).. I lived there for a few years ;)

gz is a great place... when i first moved into the ZNC it was like a giant field... always wondered what it would be like as the new CBD :D

Hahahaha, it's really incredible!! I have to go there when I visit China!!!

^^^ skyscrapers and women, good combination hehe

yum :):banana: :cheers: :nuts:

Fantastic, guangzhou looks like the next hong kong, well the're pretty much neighbours anyway, probably already one giant metropolis.

but the scrapers look magnificent, ultra-modern western style buildings.

actually the city need some sort of urban renewal program or face lift.there's alot shabby eye sore public apartment in the inner city.

These are definitely some of the classiest looking skyscrapers I've seen under proposal in recent years! Guangzhou will look great. =)

This reminds me of something in Atlanta (Symphony Tower)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v641/z0rg/1157723174_jgKkiqftF2BF.jpg

Symphony Tower>:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5b/1_Symphony_Tower.jpg

Sorry for the huge image that is the best one I could find.

Maybe it's the same architect

^^ so hot.

It's so sexy.

Sorry for the huge image that is the best one I could find.

big pics are no problem for my connection :)

:dance:
Kung Hei Fat Choi
恭 喜 發 財

We Chinese are now enjoying our New Year eve and our Lunar New Year of Pig will come tomorrow.

so it's Kung Hei Fat Choi? not gong xi fat choi?? btw.. guangzhou ROCKS!! the projects are very...very...very good!

so it's Kung Hei Fat Choi? not gong xi fat choi?? btw.. guangzhou ROCKS!! the projects are very...very...very good!

Guangdonghua: Gonghei Fatchoi

Putonghua/ Mandarin: Gongxi Facai

:banana: :)

^^ oh yeah, i mean gong xi fa cai.. :)

just booked my flight to Guangzhou for June:)
month in China

Hehe prepare for a very hot and humid vacation! Its going to be really hot here by then, but maybe you are used to the tropics what do i know:)

I really love the Pearl River Tower design, but interesting that a small part of the Sydney skyline is in the background of this rendering (on right hand side), being the MLC Centre (tall octagonal shaped black and white horizontal striped tower), Colonial Mutual Centre (dark, stepped tower on far right) and Westpac HQ (short boxy tower in front of MLC).

http://www.skyscrapers.cn/forum/attachments/1166976868_tNyf8EnxUWfM.jpg

I really love the Pearl River Tower design, but interesting that a small part of the Sydney skyline is in the background of this rendering (on right hand side), being the MLC Centre (tall octagonal shaped black and white horizontal striped tower), Colonial Mutual Centre (dark, stepped tower on far right) and Westpac HQ (short boxy tower in front of MLC).

http://www.skyscrapers.cn/forum/attachments/1166976868_tNyf8EnxUWfM.jpg

Haha yeah I noticed that too, but it's just an artistic thing. You'll find tons of renders of buildings around the world using features of other cities and countries for some reason...

Z0rg utilice tu post en el foro Argentino, date una vuelta ....

Chinese architects use a lot of other architects buildings for inspirations. It's as if they want to have a copy of ever existing skyscraper in their country, and then some.

Out of Symphony tower and it's Chinese clone, I still prefer the original. :)

Two of the sexist twins ive seen since WTC!
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/4721/190673747fdd4277e57o1ci6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

when will these 2 towers be built or scheduled to completion ?

when will these 2 towers be built or scheduled to completion ?

The west tower is u/c and will be completed in 2009

The east tower is planned to be finished before 2013

120m, 33f
http://www.skyscrapers.cn/forum/attachments/JiMzMjQzNzsmIw==_DEu8xlnl3Glu.jpg

The west tower is u/c and will be completed in 2009

The east tower is planned to be finished before 2013

can't wait to see the first 400m twins since the Old WTC

Chinese architects use a lot of other architects buildings for inspirations. It's as if they want to have a copy of ever existing skyscraper in their country, and then some.

Out of Symphony tower and it's Chinese clone, I still prefer the original. :)

Interesting since a lot of these buildings are by overseas architects not copies. A lot of these projects have overseas companies attached to them. Unless you are saying that architects submitting their designs to the Chinese government are copying and/or stealing from themselves.

Just imagine if China didn't allow overseas architects to design their buildings. You would hear the cry of unfair trade or discrimination and then you can't lie about China copying designs.

I am excited while seeing so many beautiful mansions
but I am also uncertain if these buildings will form economic foam
Japan did in 80s last century
I hope the government pay more attention on enhancing the income of Chinese
So the steps of consumption can catch up that of investment
then our economy can increase healthfully

want to see more new U/C update pictures in this thread

beautiful projects!!! the museum is breathtaking! :uh: looks like from a sci-fi-movie. the tv-tower will be wicked anyhow.

are there any new project in this city?

:applause:

Marriott Center, 48 floors
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nice, looks very big

Marriott Center, 48 floors
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r5/z0rgg/20070627_32f515df617d9b2e240bTXx9FW.jpg

for office or hotel??

Design for B2-7 plot project in Zhujiang New City CBD. Just 56 floors, a little disappointing since that plot was supposed to be expecting a 300m+ skyscraper. Anyway, this is just a proposal.
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r5/z0rgg/B2-72.jpg

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r5/z0rgg/B2-7.jpg

Being the captial city of the most richest and properous province, Guangdong, in China, Guangzhou should have a strong finance to support this type of massive construction.

Plus, companies were allowed to rent condo or appartments as offices in Guangzhou before, recently a law has been setup to prohibit this situation. We should see a office booming in Guangzhou in the next several years.

I am excited while seeing so many beautiful mansions
but I am also uncertain if these buildings will form economic foam
Japan did in 80s last century
I hope the government pay more attention on enhancing the income of Chinese
So the steps of consumption can catch up that of investment
then our economy can increase healthfully

Guangzhou Bay Times Square, 211m, 56fl
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r5/z0rgg/GuangzhouBayTimesSquare211m56f.jpg

Park Hyatt Guangzhou, 305m, 66fl

Goettsch Partners designs Park Hyatt Guangzhou mixed-use tower

Goettsch Partners has been commissioned by Guangzhou R&F Properties Co. to design a new 1,000-foot-tall mixed-use building in Guangzhou, China. The project totals 1,878,000 square feet and features a 180-key Park Hyatt hotel, 430,000 square feet of offices, 65,000 square feet of retail, 24 condominiums, 174 serviced apartments, and underground parking for 700 cars. The 66-storey building is located in the Zhujiang development, planned as Guangzhou’s new city center, near the Pearl River. The tight, two-acre site sits over a transit station at the intersection of two subway lines, with neighboring buildings that include the Grand Hyatt Guangzhou, also designed by Goettsch Partners; the city’s new opera house; the new Guangdong Museum; and what will be China’s tallest twin towers at more than 1,300 feet. The Park Hyatt tower is designed as a single volume that pinches in at the corners in relation to the changing programmatic functions stacked within. The field of staggered vertical strips on the façade stretches and compresses like tendons in response to the varying floor-to-floor heights required for each distinct function. The approximately $150 million project is currently in the schematic design phase and is expected to be completed in 2010.

http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/index.php?fuseaction=wanappln.projectview&upload_id=1328

http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/news_images/1328_1_1000%20Goettsch%20Park%20Hyatt%201.jpg

http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/news_images/1328_2_1000%20Goettsch%20Park%20Hyatt%202.jpg

http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/news_images/1328_3_1000%20Goettsch%20Park%20Hyatt%203.jpg

At the hub of Pearl River New City

KlingStubbins

KlingStubbins develops concept study for Guangzhou's central business district

Poly Real Estate Group recently contracted KlingStubbins to develop a concept for F2-2, a lot jointly owned with XianCun Village. The 141,000sq m development includes 35,000sq m of retail and 106,000sq m of speculative office space. Although the owners have decided to manage the retail and underground parking together, they want clearly defined and separated office towers so each can manage/rent/sell these office spaces independently. The “L” shape configuration formed by two towers becomes integral to the whole spatial sequence of Guangzhou’s “new axis.” This interlocked massing also reflects the cooperative relationship of two owners both symbolically and programmatically.

http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/project/uploaded_files/1232_ddr_ppt.jpg

http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/index.php?fuseaction=wanappln.projectview&upload_id=1232

this one is awesome!

Design for B2-7 plot project in Zhujiang New City CBD. Just 56 floors, a little disappointing since that plot was supposed to be expecting a 300m+ skyscraper. Anyway, this is just a proposal.
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r5/z0rgg/B2-72.jpg

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r5/z0rgg/B2-7.jpg

New International Plaza
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r5/z0rgg/NewInternationalPlaza1.jpg

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r5/z0rgg/NewInternationalPlaza3.jpg

Never heard of this project before I think :S

nice projects !

Amazing building designs!

I've gotta go see all this when completed.
Keep them coming.

http://www.skyscrapers.cn/forum/attachments/JiMzMjQzNzsmIw==_DEu8xlnl3Glu.jpg

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looks much thinner as in the renders

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both the Westin and Victory PLaza look fabulous, but for the conference centre... it looks more like a laboratory

Wow, great updates, vipermkk. Thanks a lot and keep them coming :D

Fancy looking library, guess it encourages people to read.

http://guangzhou.zghouse.net/images/index/tjtw/2.jpg


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wow... thanks to vipermkk and good job!! :)

Thanks for the update:)

Very nice! Cant wait to get back to GZ in november...

Great to compare the renders with the end results.
Thanks a lot vipermkk ans keep up the good job.

Wow, that rebuilt university town complex looks great. Wish they would do something similar to the historical buildings of Wuhan Daxue. The other projects are also awesome.

http://www.skyscrapers.cn/forum/attachments/20070925_561f657148e89efbfe69y7feh7GOSkzk.jpg


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Where is the science hall located? Never heard of it before, seems to be in the middle of nowhere? Is it in the Science town in the north-east?

Where is the science hall located? Never heard of it before, seems to be in the middle of nowhere? Is it in the Science town in the north-east?

I got the title wrong, it should named Guangdong Science Center which located at GZ University Town

http://www.gdstc.gov.cn/msg/dk/upload/kejidongtai/200601/logo.JPG

Found their mainpage
http://www.gdsc.cn/english/index.asp

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woo.....!! :eek2::okay::applause:

^^ Interesting project. What's the inspiration? A flower or ships out at sea?

Anyway, I don't like that tower. It looks like a cotton swab...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f9/White_menbo.jpg

:lol:

Designs

#4
http://www.skyscrapers.cn/forum/attachments/20071026_1d1454e23620d6d9982fb4IrrflEiZdO.jpg
http://www.skyscrapers.cn/forum/attachments/20071026_0c22451eddf0b0dcc42ec7KEoL7xlJA1.jpg

#6
http://www.skyscrapers.cn/forum/attachments/20071026_165c8053792b9fda14a3gNzoVsMTLfiZ.jpg

#8
http://www.skyscrapers.cn/forum/attachments/20071026_a1aed8d93a4ac5107eb0ERxGIYKlmdc1.jpg

#1
http://www.skyscrapers.cn/forum/attachments/20071026_544dca0fc3e5651e23d01xQWOwdowdGm.jpg
http://www.skyscrapers.cn/forum/attachments/20071026_97ac74a6eeec6263e361TLHoMfqFzHT4.jpg

#2
http://www.skyscrapers.cn/forum/attachments/20071026_f484ecea932aee96cacaUdSJosGZqWw2.jpg
http://www.skyscrapers.cn/forum/attachments/20071026_bdbd71cd9077ff35db75gInC4ZzEXX4A.jpg

godlord, hands down.

I choose #6. The design is much more advance and cool.

^^ Interesting project. What's the inspiration? A flower or ships out at sea?

Anyway, I don't like that tower. It looks like a cotton swab...:lol:

totally right :lol:

#1
http://www.skyscrapers.cn/forum/attachments/20071026_544dca0fc3e5651e23d01xQWOwdowdGm.jpg
http://www.skyscrapers.cn/forum/attachments/20071026_97ac74a6eeec6263e361TLHoMfqFzHT4.jpg

I love it! :drool:

So many amazing buildings!!!!

http://3d.deds.cn/pics/200732812618783.jpg
http://bbs.feeyo.com/upload/20071029/200710290152399661.jpg