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Evergrey
July 18th, 2006, 12:29 AM
I thought this was a rather surreal article from Buffalo's Business First publication.

http://buffalo.bizjournals.com/buffalo/stories/2006/07/17/editorial2.html?t=printable

Buffalo beggars
Business First of Buffalo - July 14, 2006by Gary Burns
Coming back to the office after lunch one day I turn a corner onto Main at a place where the sidewalk is broad and lots of people are coming and going.

Out of the corner of my eye a dark shape is moving fast, right to left, more or less on an intercept course with me.

Guy in a wheelchair zooms into my path. He's hunched forward; he's all scrunched up. I don't know what that means.

He waves a metal cup in my general direction. A few coins jangle around.

He makes noises that I don't understand, though I do comprehend the insistent tone. I don't need to make out the words. It's clear what he wants.

He waves the cup at me. He makes more noises.

I'm uncomfortable. I want to get away.

I want to help him.

I want to get away.

I want to help him.

I get away.

Americans generally call it panhandling, but the old-fashioned term is "begging."

There have always been beggars. As long as history has been written, there have references to them.

Practitioners come in all sizes, shapes, colors and descriptions. Some of them look like nine-to-fivers on a day off; they could middle-class refugees from a golf outing.

Some people are reduced to begging, and they look it. They beg because other survival options have been closed off, for whatever reasons.

A small number of people are beggars by choice, full and part-time. Maybe, under the right circumstances, it's possible to pick up a little quick cash this way. But it's almost impossible to make a living, despite assertions to the contrary contained in certain urban myths. Research bears this out.

It's obvious, isn't it, that I'm uncomfortable when confronted by panhandlers. Perhaps that's the game - to make me uncomfortable. Perhaps it's all psychology, weaving together elements of shame and guilt, fear and intimidation and then attempting to push the entire bundle into the head of a prospective giver.

If I'm made to feel uncomfortable, perhaps I'll be more likely to pay.

How do you feel when you're hit up by a panhandler? Are you uncomfortable too? Are you amused? Are you indifferent? Are you angry?

Do you pay?

Taking a long lunchtime walk on a beautiful summer Tuesday.

"Excuse me, do you have the time?"

The woman stops directly in front of me, looks straight into my eyes. Short. Not young; her hair is scattered with gray. Neatly dressed. Pleasant smile.

The midsummer sun is above us; its furnace doors are open. You can see waves of heat shimmering back up from the sidewalk.

"It's, ahhh- 12:35," I say as I move to walk on. There is certainly nothing menacing in the exchange. Yet, my internal alert system is pinging.

"Thank you so much," she says pleasantly, like a fictional schoolmarm in a fictional universe. "By the way, I'm looking for (such-and-such) church. Do you know where it is?"

"I, ahhh, no. I don't."

"Well, thank you." She steps slightly to the side and we begin to pass. I'm not quite away from her when it comes:

"Say, you wouldn't happen to have any spare change, would you? Perhaps a dollar?"

She seems so nice. And perhaps she is. I want to give her something.

But I don't.

I'm walking south on Washington Street. There's a small parking lot between buildings. I see a man striding across the lot. He could be me, honest to goodness. I mean, at first glance he fits into the same mental compartment where I might put myself. He's decently dressed: sport shirt and a pair of shorts, running shoes. He could be just a guy with what we call a regular job and a regular life. He could be on his way to a ball game down the street. Or he could be running errands on a day off.

But he's not.

"Hey man," he says, beaming like an old friend. "You got a dollar you can give me?" He asks in a manner that suggests he deserves the dollar, that, from his point of view, it's my duty to give it to him.

My hands reflexively slap my pockets. "I don't have a dime," I lie, picking up my pace, getting away.

sargeantcm
July 18th, 2006, 03:43 AM
^^ They are pretty bad downtown, and they can get pretty offensive as well. I've seen and heard of them spitting and/or throwing things (flicking cigarette butts, etc.) when you don't give them any. I'm sure it's something you get in any major city (not that that should be used as an excuse), but this is something that definitely needs to be cleaned up if we're to entice more people to come downtown one way or another.

BuffCity
July 18th, 2006, 08:02 AM
never see them in the fruitbelt...thats why I stay there. lol

NoCtUrNaL
July 19th, 2006, 04:44 AM
Whenever I'm walking around anywhere and I'm about to be accosted by someone I know is going to hit me up for money I beat them to the punch and ask them first. I love the look on their face afterwards.


The ones that bother me are those that stand there and start giving you their life’s story about why they're about to ask you to give them money.

Occasionally I'll give them some money, but only after making them promise to use it to buy crack, booze, and/or hookers. It's funny watching them stand there with their right hand up like they're taking an oath repeating whatever nonsense I can think of.

"I...state your name....promise to use the money this most handsome devil is going to give me..."

AmherstMan
July 19th, 2006, 06:44 AM
Sounds fun...lol

Anyway when when I went to Toronto some years ago me, my dad, and my brother ran into a beggar. He was nice, he started a conversation and my dad and him talked about the St. Louis Cardinals. My dad at the end gave him $20 canadian cause he liked him...I did to...lol. Well when we were in front of our hotel (The Crown Plaza(The old one by the CN Tower)) a group of beggars started to walk to use but we got in to the hotel befor they were like 10 feet away.

bayviews
July 20th, 2006, 12:41 AM
Really, among the problems that Buffalo doesn’t suffer from are an excess of begging & panhandling.

You see much more of this in larger cities like Boston, Chicago, San Francisco or Toronto, where housing costs in particular are much more expensive & there’s a lot more active streelife. Most of the photos posted here suggest that the streets of Buffalo are rather devoid of streelife or people!

However, to the degree that it exists, begging & other street issues in Buffalo are associated with the very high rates of poverty. Buffalo has become one of the poorest cities in the nation with much median household incomes than most other larger cities. You don’t see lots of rich people on the streets begging. They get their millions in tax breaks & special sweetheart deals!

So a good cure for begging in Buffalo is to do what's needed to move more of those in poverty, or at least their next gen, into the solid working & middle-class.

veryprotourism
July 20th, 2006, 04:24 AM
there are very few active bums and panhandlers in buffalo by comparison.

i personally would never even think to complain about them. if i were to spend a whole day WALKING in buffalo i'd be surprised if i was asked for money more than 2 or 3 times. in alot of cities that number would be eclipsed in a block or two.

just get used to it. its something that you see even in the most healthy, and wealthy cities. all this pissing about bums sounds like my grandmothers uninformed whining about how "dangerous" the city is, or how many "weirdos" you see "down there".

BuffCity
July 20th, 2006, 06:00 AM
in Buffalo they ask...in Rochester...they take!!! :)

veryprotourism
July 20th, 2006, 06:29 AM
in Buffalo they ask...in Rochester...they take!!! :)

thats funny. although i've been reading about alot more robberies in buffalo than in rochester lately.
i think in rochester they just skip robbing you and shoot you in the head.

sargeantcm
July 21st, 2006, 12:38 AM
Well it's pretty evident when often the only people you do run into are the panhandlers and derelicts. I can't remember the last time I was downtown and didn't get hit up, my girlfriend walks from the Statler to the library every day (during work hours, when the area is relatively "alive"), and never misses them. Just because our "problem" may not be serious by comparison, doesn't make it acceptable.

I ran into a panhandler or two on crowded Bourbon St in New Orleans one night, and I don't recall ever meeting one in the 3-4 times I've walked any appreciable distance in NYC. Maybe it's just because those two examples showcase much greater street life (NO was a week or two before Mardi Gras, NYC is, well, NYC), and therefore some "dilution" going on.

Want something interesting - my father works at the City Mission, so what that essentially means for me - when I want to go to Sabres, Bisons, Shea's, etc. (anything downtown), I have free parking - just gotta walk a little. Try walking down Main, Washington, or Ellicott streets for the length of downtown between 9 and 11 pm. Whoa, baby!

veryprotourism
July 21st, 2006, 03:32 PM
^^ i wasn't trying to downplay the problem. any level of poverty should be viewed as unacceptable.
i used to have a very buffalonian perspective on bums. i felt awkward around them and avoided them on the street at all cost. however, living in portland really changed my perspective. for example, i found it interesting that the city with the highest per capita homeless rate, in a state thats estimated to have the third highest total number of homeless in the nation(yet only 3.5 million people in the state) that the crime rate was slightly less than half what it is in buffalo, with the violent crime rate being even lower. just walking through portland it becomes clear that bums truly do not have the affects on a city that are often associated with them. the streets are far cleaner than in buffalo, and far safer, not just statisticaly, but in the way they feel when you're there.
again, i don't think we should shrug it off just because its better than elsewhere, but i think we need to realize that its part of city life and that it would likely be worse than it currently is in a growing, more vibrant buffalo.

sargeantcm
July 21st, 2006, 07:15 PM
I'm not accusing Buffalo's bums (the DT ones anyways) of being the criminals, obviously the East Side tends to take the cake on that one. I don't view them as a threat, either, just a nuisance. Like male mosquitos, they buzz around your ears and they'll annoy the hell out of you, but they don't bite.

Is Portland lower crime throughout, aka no real "bad" areas? How do Buffalo & Portland stack up comparing downtown crime exclusively (if you know)?

Not trying to put them down, I've never heard a bad thing about the city. Actually, there's a large contingent of Portland forumers over at Simtropolis creating buidings...