The only one out of that bunch of cities that would have less expensive prices is San Pedro, possibly El Segundo. Manhattan and Redondo beach are much more expensive. The difference is that Encinitas, Oceanside, Carlsbad, Pacific Beach, Mission Beach and other less expensive coastal communities do not have security problems and are not industrial in nature like their similarly cheap counterparts in LA. El Segundo has heavy industry (including a huge oil refinery and is next to LA airport which pollutes greatly) explaining why it is cheaper. San Pedro also has an oil refinery in addition to other industry. San Pedro also has gang problems. In San Diego you can get in to a respectable, relatively crime free neighborhood with little heavy industry for the same price as those.

In fact El Segundo, and San Pedro are more comprable to National City and Chula Vista, which are far cheaper. Both areas have industry and are coastal. Places like Encinitas and Carlsbad are closer to Laguna Niguel or Dana Point demographically and design wise.

The only one out of that bunch of cities that would have less expensive prices is San Pedro, possibly El Segundo. Manhattan and Redondo beach are much more expensive.

Few places compare to OC coastal prices so I won't get into that, but I don't think the LA coast is much different from here.

Like every beach community, there's a hodgepodge of different housing types. Using ziprealty.com, you might be surprised to see that real estate prices in PB and Coronado are pretty even with those in Redondo and Manhattan. Solana Beach is no slouch, either.

PB - 92109
Coronado - 92118
Solana Beach - 92075

Some good news!



Despite citizen concerns that earthquakes, terrorism and financial problems could plague development of the Navy Broadway Complex, the San Diego City Council cleared one more hurdle to the project yesterday.

“This was a project agreed to a long time ago and it is what it is,” said Councilman Kevin Faulconer, who sided with the majority in a 5-3 vote to reject two challenges against the adequacy of its environmental review.

Developer Douglas Manchester plans to build 2.9 million square feet of offices, condominium-hotels and retail stores on the 14.7-acre site along Harbor Drive from Broadway to Seaport Village. Manchester got a 99-year-lease from the Navy to redevelop the land in exchange for building a new $160 million Navy headquarters there.

The city's development department ruled in October that an environmental impact report conducted in 1990, and subsequent downtown environmental studies, were sufficient to allow the development. Since then, the Centre City Development Corp. gave its approval for the overall layout of the project.

Opponents appealed the adequacy of the environmental review at yesterday's sometimes heated four-hour hearing.

An appeal by Conrad Hartsell and Katheryn Rhodes focused on the need for more parking and seismic review. Rhodes told the council in a recorded address that since 1990, new evidence has emerged of a fault line pointing at the site.

“If you or anyone is convinced that no active faulting exists in the North Embarcadero area, please provide us with proof,” she said.

An appeal by Ian Trowbridge and the citizens group the Navy Broadway Complex Coalition claimed the 1990 environmental review also did not predict changes in the city or the law in the ensuing years.

Trowbridge and other speakers at the meeting said the issue of the Navy building becoming a terrorist target has never been considered.

“Staff seems to think that an EIR is like a good wine and gets better with age, when in fact, in a rapidly changing environment it becomes less and less relevant,” Trowbridge said.
In his remarks, Trowbridge also cited a memo by the San Diego-based nonprofit Center on Policy Initiatives that estimates the project would cost the city $1.2 million a year unless hotel/motel taxes – called Transient Occupancy Taxes – can be guaranteed.

The memo, released Friday, suggests that condo hotels may not provide the tax revenues of regular hotels. Thus the entire project would be a drain on the city's resources, it states.

The memo also says the city would need to add seven police officers and three firefighters to its payroll to handle the extra 3,511 people the project will draw. Currently, the prime waterfront land is full of outdated concrete Navy buildings.

The study's author, Murtaza Baxamusa, said the city should do a broad financial study of the project before moving forward.

“Show me the money,” he said. “Show me the money.”

Several members of the City Council made clear that they didn't think Manchester's plan for the land was optimal. But, they said, their hands are tied.

They could only grant the appeals if they believed there had been significant changes in the development plan since its environmental review was certified in 1992.

Many changes in the city had been predicted in the review, staff said.

“There's a lot of questions I have about this project,” council President Scott Peters said. “They just aren't before us today.”

Council members Donna Frye, Toni Atkins and Ben Hueso disagreed. They said that the public should be heard on the project, and that many issues raised in the appeals should be explored.

“It would mean a lot to have this project start on the right foot,” Hueso said.

Despite the denial of the appeals, the project will continue to be scrutinized. The California Coastal Commission – which has been reluctant to approve condo hotels in the past – has said the development needs its approval before moving forward.

Also, the Navy Broadway Coalition is suing the Navy in federal court to force more environmental review on the federal level.

After the meeting, Steven Strauss, an attorney for the project, said the issue of the hotel/motel tax will be ironed out. He said he expected that the condo hotels at Pacific Gateway would limit occupancy to less than 30 days at a time, which he said means the city will get its taxes.

Council members said they wanted an agreement in writing.

very nice!

Don't know if I've posted this picture before, but I found it recently. I took it probably in july...I can't remember for sure. But anyways, it reminds me of the cingular commercials, so I thought it was worth posting.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c24/SDfan12/101_0553.jpg

Oh, and I'm pretty sure we passed 500 posts. ;)

nice!

^^Thanks.

sound the charge!!!!!!!

10 flippin seasons of this team and Im sick of it! Im dropping football, whats with SD teams and never going the distance?

i cant fucking believe it

....:(

You know...we just really don't deserve this in San Diego...

Why Us???

Why can't we For ONCE have a winning sports team... A WINNING professional sports team??

Chargers...the best team in the NFL, and almost every single one of their players made stupid little mistakes which ended up costing the entire game, with thousands of crying, heart-broken fans...They GAVE the Game Away

And Padres...all they do is trade all the good fan-loved players to make more money, while they jack up the prices for those nasty broiled hot dogs, tiny-ass sodas, and ticket prices which are ridiculous!

And we lost the Clippers years ago!!



I read a story in the UT a long time ago about San Diego and our misfortune with sports team and I think what it said was true...

God Blessed San Diego with Perfect Weather, Beautiful Beaches, and Amazing natural surroundings. But in return God told San Diego "Thou shalt not have winning sports teams".

Hey.......the Gulls won the WCHL a couple of times...

Yep San Diego is by far the largest metro area to have never won a major sports championship. I'm talking NFL, MLB, NHL, and NBA. Some people say the 1963 AFL championship that we won counts. Personally i don't think it does because football, especially the AFL, wasn't really a huge nation wide attention grabbing sport like it has been since the AFL/NFL merger and the advent of the "Superbowl".

Next largest metro area not to have a major sports title is Indianapolis and it looks as if they will get theirs this year. The Colts should be able to handle New England at home, seeing how shitty NE played here. I don't think I've ever seen a team play so horribly and still win a playoff game. Then they just have to beat a shitty NFC team and they are champs.

My idea for coach: Let Marty or Cam Cameron coach one more year then hire Bill Cowher. I think he'd be perfect, bring some East Coast toughness and concentration to the team. Cowher wants to take a year off and then why wouldn't he want to come coach the NFL's most talented team with a great quarterback and running back who still has another solid 6 to 8 years ahead of him.

What do you guys think?