i prefer glass buildings like this on near the train station in leeds. i feel glass has less greater propensity to age

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i feel glass has less greater propensity to age


Try telling that to the Beetham Manc haters :lol:

I've never responded to a criticism of Leeds with an irrelevant attack on another city.

Cardiff has just said Leeds lacks good modern architecture, do you see me replying with an attack on Cardiff?

Most people don't, but the ones who spend most of their time on here, like Sebo, you, Boards etc, it's what you always do.

It's tiresome and pathetic. Hopefully you will think about the relevance of your posts before you post them next time

Fucking hell leonard. When I descend into cat calling it is with YOU, not Leeds the fucking city! I like Leeds, I think it is great. I have enjoyed every visit that I have made there! The same can be said about manc and Brum... maybe I'm just easilly pleased, but I like all of the Northern cities.... even Liverpool! You may also notice that I don't actually criticise many of the deluded self agrandising statements about cities.. we are all, er, capable of doing those, the exception with yours and wigglys (regretfully, otherwise a good poster.. nice pic below by the way!) is it usually includes some gratuitous slagging off of Liverpool for some reason.

Perhaps you are just jealous of the place because, despite all the good new architecture Leeds has seen in addition to some fine old stock, Liverpool is still much prettier, in spite of spending more than a generation in the doldrums?

You should leave off slagging other cities needlessly, or bigging up Leeds in such a shallow way.. it detracts from any good points you may actually raise?

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that bottom one kicks ass.

It does :yes:

Looks London-esque because of the water :)

Love that bottom picture to.

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Coutesy of toadstone.

Fucking hell leonard. When I descend into cat calling it is with YOU, not Leeds the fucking city! I like Leeds, I think it is great. I have enjoyed every visit that I have made there! The same can be said about manc and Brum... maybe I'm just easilly pleased, but I like all of the Northern cities.... even Liverpool! You may also notice that I don't actually criticise many of the deluded self agrandising statements about cities.. we are all, er, capable of doing those, the exception with yours and wigglys (regretfully, otherwise a good poster.. nice pic below by the way!) is it usually includes some gratuitous slagging off of Liverpool for some reason.

Perhaps you are just jealous of the place because, despite all the good new architecture Leeds has seen in addition to some fine old stock, Liverpool is still much prettier, in spite of spending more than a generation in the doldrums?

You should leave off slagging other cities needlessly, or bigging up Leeds in such a shallow way.. it detracts from any good points you may actually raise?


Excuse me!

I dont follow the whole "my city is better than your city" malarky that i've notice so many of you have on here. being fairly new on these boards, when I see a building, I will be critical or positive about regardless of what city it is from. If anything, I tend to be more popsitive about other cities tham most of the "bitchy trolls" on here. When good skyline photos are posted of liverpool, im there saying so. I even voted the VTP 10/10 coz i think its great. I am always positive where I beleive its due - unlike many posters on here, who just cannot do that if its about a city that is not "their own". The problem lies, I beleive, when normal people make comments about buildings that are from a city that they dont belong to. This is seen as an "attack" and so, rather than appreciating that all taste is subjective, they need to "get back" and make that person "hurt" too lol by making comments about the city they are from. I found this horrificly shocking when first using these forums. It was like walking into a school playground. Because no one from Leeds uses the city talk threads, Leeds folk become an easy target to 'gang up' on. Make one objective comment about a building in Bham for example (in a thread that invites comments), or make a reasoned coherent point about why liverpool's population is in decline ( in a thread that invites discussion about about population), and the voulchers lash on to you with a tone of bricks.. childishly attacking the city where you're from, even tho, visiting the regional threads you will find people from those cities themselves (bham, liverpool) themselves raising exactly the same points. And then, when those obsessive forumers start attacking Leeds to "get back", the best thing to do is to counter their comments by disprooving what they say by bringing factual information to the table. The problem with this is, if it shows leeds in a positive light, other forums see this as "constantly bigging up leeds". Now this is how it is, and ive learnt to accept that it will never change on these forums. Geeky forums like these will always be monopolised by these types of people, whose mentality and logic fall apart in the real world. :ohno:

No doubt, this will be seen as yet another 'attack' and will be followed by leeds football remarks, and other stupid remarks, from the regular trouble causers on here.

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You should leave off slagging other cities needlessly, or bigging up Leeds in such a shallow way.. it detracts from any good points you may actually raise?

When have I ever slagged off another city needlessly or bigged up Leeds? I was accused of pretending to be from Leeds the other day!

I have responded to criticism of Leeds with dignified and measured responses.

Apart from maybe Leeds No.1, I don't think anyone on here can be accused of bigging up Leeds. Me and Wiggley are the other 2 more prominent Leeds posters and we're pretty critical of our city

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UK's worst city centre in terms of overall quality of building stock? Or do these pictures just show the worst of the city?

Those Leeds pictures have totally destroyed what was becoming a set of pictures of great skylines. :|

Those Leeds pictures have totally destroyed what was becoming a set of pictures of great skylines. :|

Surely you jest?

Great skylines?

great skylines? No UK cities have great skylines... apart from london imo. lol

You still shouldn't have posted them Wiggley.

All those people from the international forums who come to look in awe at the pictures of Birmingham, Glasgow etc, will probably never return now

probably.

well if thats the case then they're not really worth considering :yes:

You still shouldn't have posted them Wiggley.

All those people from the international forums who come to look in awe at the pictures of Birmingham, Glasgow etc, will probably never return now

lol. theres nowt wrong with them pics, they're just city centre density.. they dont look any diferent from owt else ive seen :)

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Thats a great one Sim :yes:

I may stick it as my desktop background, its been a while since I had a Brummie one.

Its not one of mine, but im sure they would'nt mind.

Thats a great one Sim :yes:

I may stick it as my desktop background, its been a while since I had a Brummie one.

you're not stil using those leeds skyline photos i sent u as ur background are ya. wot are ya like eh

Well I may have, in the past. But for the last few months it has been the 'Pool, those Scousers just keep whacking them out.

thats just rude

Well they have to be the right size, around 20 inches :yes:

which photo are u on about?

The one of Leeds (I presume) in article 2683 - covered in mist.

which photo are u on about?

The one of Leeds (I presume) in article 2683 - covered in mist.

The one of Leeds (I presume) in article 2683 - covered in mist.

thats sheffield.

thats sheffield.

No wonder it's good. ;)

Oh, just read back. He said it was awful! Ah well. :lol:

Oh, just read back. He said it was awful! Ah well. :lol:

lol ignore it. he was just being bitchy, because he wanted to "hurt" leeds. lol rise above it

Why are there 2 "Best Future Skyline" threads now?

Cheers Ultraviolet!!

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i do wish centre city was taller (and cleaner while im at it)

Maybe but no need when it will have 3 120m+ towers right bang behind it and another opposite ;)

still needs a clean though :yes:

I wish it wasn't so... brown. I think it would look cool in blue or if all of the tower was glazed but not the podium. Its lighting scheme is pretty impressive though. Its a shame BT's were not switched on for that picture ^^

i love the brown-black colour of the windows :happy: it makes a change from all the pale blues and silvers etc. you get now.

Not having seen all the UK skylines It would be wrong for me to say definite but, of those I have seen I would have to say it is the Birmingham skyline. The fact that Birmingham is not a waterfront location makes it even more impressive, in my opinion.

CCT has already been cleaned

What i like about the birmingham skyline, is the sheer variety of architecture. not too much glass, boxes, spires etc but a good mix of old and new along with differences in design which imo makes it impressive. I have also been to another regional city of Manchester and again i was very impressed. it seems in all regional cities atm there is great change and improvements in design and quality. Long may it continue.

by Kebabman01 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sefik_akkurt/) on flickr:-

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:cheers:

Thats a great picture. Liverpool looks so good at the moment.

I've long thought Liverpool has the most convincing skyline in the UK - that pic confirms it

Yep.

I think we've found a winner!

:cheers:

I've reserved my vote up until now and finally voted for Liverpool.

Without a doubt, for me that is the best skyline in the Uk (inc London). Amazing location and beautiful buildings. Also illustrates the point that having taller buildings does not a better skyline make.

Ah Liverpool, she makes me wet.

I must say the Liver building is mesmerizing in that picture, look like some sort of temple . i was walking in town today and looked up and seen the Liverbirds looming over and realised how lucky i was for my city to have such buildings, they are beautiful.

This poll is now 18 odd months old, shall we start another?

Over the hills and far away.

Birmingham - Lickey - Worcester/Malvern

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Not a lot happening in those pics for me Im afraid :(

This poll is now 18 odd months old, shall we start another?

Definitely :yes:

I can see at least two couples having sex.

:lol:

Bugger! Wrong thread!

Re: That Liverpool skyline shot from Flikr.

I luv that angle, with the skyline silloutted against an orange sky, particularly with the Anglican Cathedral still dominant through the mist in the background. These sort of images of Liverpool just makes me think how impressive the place would have been at the height of its imperial powers, teaming with a relatively huge popualtion, traders from all over the world, the Mersey full of shipping. Miles and miles of working docks, the overhead railway etc etc!

I am awating ECHO Arena get light up fully in the night ,(at the moment half of building light up) and cranes moved away from city than I'll have a go full extension of Liverpool Skyline again but this tme evening shot...
15 months ago Liverpool skyline was like this(Day time) http://www.kebabman.tv/liverpoolskyline.jpg

not really a proper skyline pic of Leeds per se, but its a diferent perspective

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not really a proper skyline pic of Leeds per se, but its a diferent perspective

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2300/2084815684_00e5b3a52e_o.jpg

nice shot, lookslike it's taken from whitehall riverside.

Check this link for an AMAZING pic of Cardiffs skyline, really worth the wait to download the pic! (a very large version of this)

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/2146206707_0d5863e43b_o.jpg

http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2146206707&size=o

Shame the photographer missed off the little bit to the right of the pic with Celestia towers, and also the sports village development to the left of the pic

Now that's a waterfront setting. Fantastic - and such potential!

brilliant pic that cardiff

I am awating ECHO Arena get light up fully in the night ,(at the moment half of building light up) and cranes moved away from city than I'll have a go full extension of Liverpool Skyline again but this tme evening shot...
15 months ago Liverpool skyline was like this(Day time) http://www.kebabman.tv/liverpoolskyline.jpg

superb panorama that kebabman :cheers:

I can't wait for your next one :)

wow cardiff. A few skyscrapers, and that would easily give liverpool's waterfront settinga run for its money :P

Well if bay pointe gets underway next year, and its good quality then i think it will give most British cities a run for their money. But each citys skyline has its merits, its just down to personal taste (and some common factors).

Wow. Looking great there cardiff!

Great pic of Cardiff :okay:

Taken from one of the University of Birmingham buildings...

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(not by me).

From Joe Dunkley on Flickr:

Not the best shotm the 100m Eastside Plaza is still under construction in this one (thats the one by the spinnaker tower and slightly in the distance) and it doesnt include Portsmouths main city centre core but it shows how one tower can change a skyline.

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Ohhh, I love Spinnaker, it soo doesn't look like something you'd expect to be built in the UK though.

Apart from the one UC, does Pompey have any others planned?

we do have anothwer 86m under construction, there is also a rumour floating around to some more falling just short of 100m. I know were getting a new hotel which should be around 60-70m right in the CC. The Fratton Park area redevelopment is due a remasterplanning too, i think thats where the rumoured 80-90m jobs are gonna end up.

Another big one is the councils plans for a key site on the Beach. Theres an old 1980s swimming complex that isnt earning much money these days, the council (i know this for fact) wish to rebuild the complex with a tower. The tower is supposed to be around 30 floors. Now at resi, your looking at 90-100m again.

Also theres a (though totally unsourced) rumour of Beetham wanting a slice of the Portsmouth cake.

Portsmouth is the most densly populated city in the country, so i suppose we can get away with building 100m resis in a city with (excluding the metro area) under 200k.

Spinnaker is my favourite regional tower :yes: beats alot of the London towers too. i think pompeys setting is better then cardiff and has the potential to be better then liverpools. also it has the southern climate going for it, which may help.

Potential means absolutely nothing,I can't see it personally bearing in mind that everywhere will have further projects in the pipeline.

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^^ well tbh i hear the word potential for most cities

Portsmouth DOES have a few more 100m proposals, all residential bar one hotel as far as i am aware. Its just nothing gets announced. Since the completion of the Spinnaker Tower (which itself was greatly opposed) the city has become Skyscraper Friendly. It may be small, but its still no1 on the UK Density League. Density leads to hi rises.

Edit: That hotel is rumoured for up to 30 stories, thats around the 100m mark definatly. Depending on how much the design is dumbded down, hight decreases etc etc

is portmouth really a dense urban city, or does it statistically show as a high population density simply due to tightly drawn in boundaries, and a very high proportion of terraced houses as opposed to suburban semis?

Well in that case we have the potential and the schemes in the pipeline to better that pic I've just posted.

Portsmouths best asset compared to any other cities is that the port is always busy, with ferries of all sizes ans shapes going out every few minutes, navy ships, yachts and other pleasure craft. Gunwarf quay is one of the nicest new developments because it make use of this - nothing like eating dinner or having a drink when an 8 storey ferry all lit up goes by! I think high density is due to alot of terraced housing and the fact the city is restricted to the island it is on and the restriction of a souther Portsmouth - Southampton mega conurbation. The major downside to most of Portsmouth harbour is the tide reveals mudflats around most of the island.

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heres why its dense

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There is also a large group of Tower Blocks quite tightly packed together just to the left of that pic, making up Landport. And the Beach (also of to the left) also plays host to numerous hi rises.

lmao a hugely disproportionate amount of tiny terraced housing, coupled with tight city boundaries. just as i thought.

Its actually a lot of high density 4+ storey apartments. As illustrated in this pic thanks to Marcus H on Flickr.

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wow great looking skatepark

It may be small, but its still no1 on the UK Density League. Density leads to hi rises.

but as said before, portsmouth appears on paper to be high density because of its very tightly drawn in boundaries, and disrpoportionately high terraced housing within those boundaries. Portsmouth town centre isnt dense in anyway, and looks no diferent to any other similarly sized town centre, therefore the asertion that portsmouth is the densest place in the UK, and therefore this will lead to high rises, is not actually true, sorry.

It's much understood on SSC that boundaries do not reflect the true extent of a city. Ignoring boundaries and instead looking at portsmouth's official urban area, according to the ONS, the portsmouth urban area is not denser than the london urban area, and is infact less dense even than the neighbouring brighton urban area.

^^Have you ever been to Portsmouth wiggely, or are you basing all of these assumptions on a couple of photo's off of a web forum? :dunno:

Or from a train that spent about 5 minutes in the place.

And he calls me a troll???
Portsmouth is far more densely populated than Leeds because it's really a slim peninsula between Portsmouth Harbour and Langstone Harbour and not a semi-rural city / area that apparently has far away Harrogate as one of its suburbs!!

I notice how the term 'troll' is only thrown about when Wiggley is involved.....

And he calls me a troll???
Portsmouth is far more densely populated than Leeds because it's really a slim peninsula between Portsmouth Harbour and Langstone Harbour and not a semi-rural city / area that apparently has far away Harrogate as one of its suburbs!!

Actually its even worse than that, its an Island with only 3 roads onto it. And one railway.

Here are some poor quality pics i took 2 years ago of Portsmouth.

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A lot has happened since these were taken, mainly 5-10 storey apartment crap, and Eastside Plaza (29fl) and Admirality (22fl)

Posted by Smileyface...

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Cheers CityGent!

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Great shot from Alpha Tower

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This one posted by T-man is my current fave. Is that from Edgbaston?

From the university apparently. So yeah.

Yeh it's taken from the top of Muirhead Tower - currently being refurbed.

Thanks guys:)

A dusk shot and a night shot showing different aspects of Liverpool's growing (and sometimes 'glowing') skyline..


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Photo by Wallyworld

i found this one on flickr, by RichardLowkes (http://www.flickr.com/photos/richardlowkes/), whilst looking for something else. I liked it so much i thought i'd throw it in here :D

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rubberly! :happy:

Great shots there. All of them.

Feltip took this and I think it gives a great indication of the current construction in Birmingham and how closely tucked in they are together and the desntiy the city is still developing.



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wow, its so dence. This area is going to be huge soon.

Couple from Brum

From Brum 2003
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From Feltip
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Couple from Brum

From Brum 2003
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From Feltip
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love the sunset

some shots of Liverpool from Bidston Hill I found on flickr,
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2235/2136400408_178f657a4e_b.jpg

an older shot, during construction of Unity
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an even older one by the looks of it, can't spot Beetham Tower
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some shots of Liverpool from Bidston Hill I found on flickr,
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2235/2136400408_178f657a4e_b.jpg

That's brilliant - quite stunning! :)

Density's there, height's there - Liverpool's skyline is maturing into a beaut.

Looks miles inland too!

Looks miles inland too!

its looking across from Bidston Hill (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&q=bidston+hill&ie=UTF8&ll=53.404927,-3.011112&spn=0.068259,0.160675&t=k&z=13&iwloc=addr&om=1) on the wirral, the foreground is taken up by Birkenhead & Wallasey Docks (Wirral Waters in the future hopefully!). North Birkenhead is to the right in the foreground, and south wallasey to the left

That Liverpool pic is great, bloody so dence.

How much is the Radio city tower crying out for a big ass spire though. Great pic.

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Courtesy of http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0d/Central_Birmingham_Skyline.jpg

Surely one of the best views I've seen of Birmingham. Love the skyline!

Subliving.

^^That was taken by ultraviolet on these forums. I convinced him to upload it to Wikipedia. It's a great shot indeed! And slap bang in the middle will be V Building! :happy:

Yeah, that is one for the books. I cant wait for V to be in this shot.

This pic does it for me. I first saw it on Marketing Birmingham calendar. I presume its taken for them. Shows how green Edgbaston is looking towards city. It's a good few years old; I hope it gets updated.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Feltip/CityfromEdgbaston.jpg

you'd think that was right on the city centres doorstep :happy: :(

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Courtesy of http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0d/Central_Birmingham_Skyline.jpg


I love the view walking down there on match days. (You can just make out St.Andrews on the left of the picture)

lol, I wonder what that random bloke was thinking.

lol, I wonder what that random bloke was thinking.

"must.... hold..... belly.... in....."

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Quality picture. It looks so dense.

More Smileyface goodness :happy:


I was over Dudley way yesterday and managed to get a few shots from near the top of Turners Hill.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v173/Robdann/Birmingham%209/TowerBlocks12thJan200872.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v173/Robdann/Birmingham%209/TowerBlocks12thJan200879.jpg

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A few pics from Flickr:

by "The Wallasey Clicker"
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2035/2188255286_6d1bdb7498.jpg

by "petecarr"
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2255/2184505309_118b2c8a3c_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2165/2183080840_c23f06d623_o.jpg
(Port of Liverpool Building getting a scrub)

by "Maddie Digital"
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2098/1526288622_ad2257fdb3.jpg

by "ap4a"
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2266/2173272908_21db4bf64f.jpg

Best Present Skyline. What do we win? :D

That first photo is beautiful. Well composed as well. There seems to be some sort of distinct style of architecture to Liverpool nowadays.

good photos TelfordBoy, love the second to last pic



great post twiz, that first one is a corker!

A few pics from Flickr:

by "The Wallasey Clicker"
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2035/2188255286_6d1bdb7498.jpg

by "petecarr"
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2255/2184505309_118b2c8a3c_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2165/2183080840_c23f06d623_o.jpg
(Port of Liverpool Building getting a scrub)

by "Maddie Digital"
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2098/1526288622_ad2257fdb3.jpg

by "ap4a"
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2266/2173272908_21db4bf64f.jpg

Best Present Skyline. What do we win? :D

by "ap4a"
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2266/2173272908_21db4bf64f.jpg

Best Present Skyline. What do we win? :D


Beautiful!!

some more off that wallasey clicker bloke on flickr!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2207/2187460587_5ac346e210_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2049/2188249078_8a21785c4a.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2164/2187461199_75956a3421.jpg

Those Liverpool photos are awesome - so atmospheric too!

Birmingham's skyline, as seen from Dudley
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j129/van_heckler/ssss-1.jpg

That ^^ really is great, I keep going back to look at it.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v173/Robdann/ssss-1.jpg

and just a tiny part of it!

5 ways matches Croydon but it still needs Edgbaston Galleries, Auchinleck etc to give it a boost.

Dunno about Croydon, but its easily better than Leeds



















:jk:

Leeds is on par with cities such as Coventry, Wolverhampton and Preston when it comes to skylines.

Leeds is on par with cities such as Coventry, Wolverhampton and Preston when it comes to skylines.

Is that better or worse than looking like Nairobi?

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/images/headers/15.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j129/van_heckler/ssss-1.jpg

;)


(Actually, have we done this joke before? :dunno:)

Yeah I know. Can't even tell the difference.

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j129/van_heckler/Untitled-1copy-2.jpg
Coventry

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2121/1605141758_48d57be2f1.jpg?v=0
Leeds

:happy: Of course we've done it before, its a running joke. Sort of.

Leeds is on par with cities such as Coventry, Wolverhampton and Preston when it comes to skylines.

Last time I went to Wolves, it had two small mid-rise towers (Mander House and one of the uni buildings) in it's CBD, plus a scattering of tower blocks outside of the ringroad. Coventry is bigger and more built-up and harbours 12 x 180ft to 225 ft (16 to 20 storey) towers in the CBD alone, plus a large number of tower blocks. Wolves is a city but it's centre feel like a town and is very compact (and is a lot nicer than most people believe) whereas Coventry looks and feels like a major city, even though it is also fairly compact and contained by a massive ringroad system.

Im going to say Portsmouth. And im not joking.

.....

mooob'd

A couple of Birmingham from today.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2191/2223538560_2940cf2dde_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2218/2223538826_14e50d5703_b.jpg

Im going to say Portsmouth. And im not joking.

You're not biased.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/94/246239472_a74fd5f927_b.jpg

You're not biased.

I dont think it is Bias. I genuinely believe Portsmouth has a great Skyline Composition. Aided by the fact Portsmouth is a flat island, tall buildings really stick out. Eastside Plaza and the Spinnaker Tower compliment eachother really well, the tower blocks dont look too bad, Admirality Quarter Tower looks great with the aforementioned, even Portsmouths older office blocks (60s, 70s) dont look bad at all, in fact, the 15 story 1973 Zurich Headquarters still looks great today. All the concrete Uni buildings are being painted white, and look as good as new, the cranes from the dockyard further add to the composition when looking from the north, as do the Ships.

I respect your right to an opinion, and 'best skyline' is purely a matter of individual taste but, you're wrong.

Ever seen it? ;)

Got taller buildings than most cities its size.

I would agre that it probably has the prettiest skyline due to the spinnaker tower and east side plaza, but i dont think it has the best due to lack of cohesion amongst the towers, which despite the flatnes of the island dont stand out that much. Also the quality of towers such as in somerstown arnt great and arnt that many.

Ever seen it? ;)

Got taller buildings than most cities its size.

:lol: Yes! In lots of Photos! You have of course been to every town and city in the UK?

No I have not but I am familiar with the Skylines of Britian. And Portsmouths IS a fantastic, unique, recognisable skyline.

Yep, we're all familiar with the Skylines of Britian, and most of us would agree the best of them all is not Portsmouth. No offence but no way is Spinnaker Tower and few 'nice' 60's blocks better than cities with the real qualities of a great skyline, good architecture (Manchester, good density (Leeds), good 'clustering' Liverpool and most of the above all lumped together (Brum).

well you can add best looking spinaker tower (pompy) to the list :)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2413/2222952145_44a7f7c339_b.jpg

thought that was Cardiff for a second! :nuts:

Is that because you're "special"? :poke:

no because i thought it looked like cardiff. (that lake looks like the bay area)

I'm guessing that's a new photo cos it looks like the tower blocks by the reservoir on the left have started to be demolished. :cry:

Well i think its obvious by the amount of council blocks that its not cardiff, and also the fact that the topography is completely different, there are no building around that resevoire (as there is in the bay) oh adn the lack of mountains... oh and dock buildings.... oh and the stadium.

i just said it looked like it in that pic, no need to get pissy :dunno:

I was going to say. Chill out Cardiff. You should be priveliged Helium thought it was your city.

quite, no harm was meant it was a compliment really :cry:

I wasnt really 'freaked out' by his coments. I was being sarcastic raather than naty, sorry if you took offence, and sorry if you take offence by this but its not really a compliment.

not a compliment?

Cardiff is the tips compared to this!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2413/2222952145_44a7f7c339_b.jpg

not a compliment?

Cardiff is the tips compared to this!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2413/2222952145_44a7f7c339_b.jpg

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg51/DaiB_photo/DSC00087.jpg


Fight! Fight!

god they do look alike. altho i'd say that the cardiff pic wins easily.. much nicer in that pic.

Explanation? Cant see anything which gives it a better photogenic posture from that angle. Maybe its the house in the foreground!

I agree, TBH they both look pretty similar from that distance. :dunno: The foreground of the Birmingham one looks nicer though. :yes:

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the birmingham one from much further away? I'd like to see ones from the same difference so the scale and densities of the two skylines are on show.

Couldn't tell you about Cardiff, but I can tell you about the Birmingham one. This would have been taken from Egghill Lane Frankley Beeches - a famous viewing point across Bartley Reservoir. From there to Alpha Tower at pretty much the centre of the image is a distance of 6.17 miles.

http://i32.tinypic.com/2ll10n8.jpg

1 mile to the bridge.
1.3 miles to the large white building.
2.5 miles to the Millennium Stadium.

Please, please... we are comparing two completely different things people!

To paraphrase Father Ted "These buildings are small, Dougall... but these are far away"

My opinion is that the Cardiff view is better from an urban point of view in that the city interacts with the water and has a relationship with it - but since Cardiff is on the coast and therefore closer to the camera, whilst the Birmingham shot is a long-distance view of the city with a lake in the foreground, this should hardly be surprising...

Helium - methinks you should be more careful with your throwaway comments in the future!!

Please, please... we are comparing two completely different things people!

To paraphrase Father Ted "These buildings are small, Dougall... but these are far away"

My opinion is that the Cardiff view is better from an urban point of view in that the city interacts with the water and has a relationship with it - but since Cardiff is on the coast and therefore closer to the camera, whilst the Birmingham shot is a long-distance view of the city with a lake in the foreground, this should hardly be surprising...

Helium - methinks you should be more careful with your throwaway comments in the future!!

nah!

The reason i dont think its a compliment was because of some reasons already stated. While i think Birmingham has a great skyline, this pic doesnt show it off to its best advantage, and a reservoire with a couple of council blocks around it and a few sailing boats isnt quite the same as the diversity you find in the bay. I agree the forground in the picture isnt too inspiring, but this is because this area was built for poorer families, who dont forget would have been looking over mud flats alot of the time and an industrial area. The nicest parts of this area (know as Penarth) are actually really beautiful semi detached and detached 3-4 storey victorian houses which lookout over the Bristol channel instead. This however is not the worst part of Penarth with further north consisting of an empty council lowrise block awaiting demolition and construction of luxury flats - but the locals dont like this idea, as they dont like bay pointe or the renovation of the promonade which as a result has made it die slowly as the elderly population dies. The whole area is full of NIMBYS! well nearly the whoile area.

And for comparison to the Birmingham picture

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/sanstiss/Graphic1.jpg

^ Hmm... Surely you should be measuring from the city centre though with that. That was the case with the Birmingham map.

aherm...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v627/cristy_bunt/Misc/cardiff.jpg

No as with the birmingham one i measured from the snapshot spot along the line of sight

Fraid I think the Birmingham one was measuring from where the photo was taken to the city centre. :dunno:

no you havent cardiff, you've just made the yellow line up :lol:

the red line is from where the pic was taken ;)

Yes my yellow line and the red line start at the same place so i havent made anything up!, the difference is mine is a comparison of the same distance show to the city center of birmingham (look at the distance on the birmingham line! 6.17 miles from the point the photograph was taken) and i think you can tell the difference seeing as the stadium is on the western edge of the city center. What you want to prove from this i dont know? that the photographer took the picture closer to the city center (well obvious), that Birmingham with a population of nearly 2 million is bigger than Cardiff with a population of 320,000, that Cardiff is more likely to look urban because the city envelopes the bay??? Or are you just looking for a photograph of Cardiff from the same distance? Because that wouldnt be a good comparison for Cardiff.

oh right... oops n stuff :shifty:

some pics of liverpool from flickr, dunno who the blokes are in the first shot, nice skyline tho :)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2187/1507095765_2c2a5ca705_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/39/84833140_81da59e7f2_b.jpg

The Mersey's so vast.

was that pic with those men, taken on that art deco thing in Birkenhead?

The Mersey's so vast.

was that pic with those men, taken on that art deco thing in Birkenhead?

yeah I think so, certainly looks like it

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/90/213965199_3aa1454ada.jpg?v=1155482333http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1085/963582729_aa8849d0ff.jpg

:drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:








(i seem to be :drool:ing alot lately :shifty:)

love the first pic, really shows a cohesive skyline of great buildings

Yeh first pictures great! :)

Just a few small ones from brum!

http://www.**************************/php-cgi/gallery2/d/16992-2/24CH0807+021b.jpg

http://www.**************************/php-cgi/gallery2/d/16976-2/24CH0807+002.jpg

http://www.**************************/php-cgi/gallery2/d/16970-2/04CH0907+135.jpg

http://www.**************************/php-cgi/gallery2/d/16974-2/04CH0907+144.jpg

http://www.**************************/php-cgi/gallery2/d/16710-2/24CH0807+022.jpg

The Mersey's so vast.

was that pic with those men, taken on that art deco thing in Birkenhead?

They're adrenaline junkies.

well they went to Birkenhead, so obviously ;)

well they went to Birkenhead, so obviously ;)

eh ya cheeky git, im from birkenhead :bleep:

Couldn't take the 24/7 adrenaline rush and had to move over the water?

^^they still get round horse and cart on that side :yes:

eh ya cheeky git, im from birkenhead :bleep:

and it shows :ohno:
































;)

im Sure Sloyne'll appear in a min

Couldn't take the 24/7 adrenaline rush and had to move over the water?

I think he was implying it's only visitors who experience the adrenaline rush, i'm exiled in the darkest corner of merseyside atm, where they talk funny and play rugby league.

I think he was implying it's only visitors who experience the adrenaline rush, i'm exiled in the darkest corner of merseyside atm, where they talk funny and play rugby league.

brookside? :pet:

brookside? :pet:

:lol: more likely to see this fella around my way than jimmy corkhill

http://www.dvdpowerhouse.co.uk/images/dvd/products1/c4dvd10024.jpg

^^when i see that unseen and uncut bit i immediately think of...

actually i'd better not say :shifty:

^^when i see that unseen and uncut bit i immediately think of...

actually i'd better not say :shifty:

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

I think he was implying it's only visitors who experience the adrenaline rush, i'm exiled in the darkest corner of merseyside atm, where they talk funny and play rugby league.

dont try diss rugby league!

brookside? :pet:

Nope, thats where I live, although its called The Ghetto by those in the know :yes:

Anyway, best Previous skyline anyone? Birmingham 1989:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o114/fruityandnutty/super%20prix/sp89-1.jpg

Anyway, best Previous skyline anyone? Birmingham 1989:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o114/fruityandnutty/super%20prix/sp89-1.jpg

Aah Broad Street, Five Ways and Belgrade Middleway. Better than Leeds ;). Only kidding!

Cool. So that's how Brum looked when I was born? Looks like Sao Paulo or something. Luckily the decent buildings have stayed.

You say you're only kidding Erebus, but you're not really are you? ;)

The fact that so much shit has gone yet so much beautiful shit sis going up just makes me wet my pants like a chimp on ribena!

Cool. So that's how Brum looked when I was born? Looks like Sao Paulo

:rofl:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/6/8735301_01d270e24b_b.jpg

:rofl:



:llama:

Would you stop following me around the forum? It's creepy.

this pic was taken about 8 years ago when i wasnt even into skylines or buildings, and was just takin a random pic of about a quarter of leeds skyline. it actually looks quite good. i'll have to try and work out where it was taken and take the same pic now.

http://plum.flirble.org/~dan/scottinleeds/leeds-scenery.jpg

I honestly think Portsmouths is better than Leeds', and no that is not an attack at Wiggly or any other Leeds forumer. I just think its more attractive with more too it. Wharf Cranes can do a lot for a skyline. And when you look at the Skyline from Portchester Castle, there is usually a carrier in and the spinnaker looks like it is on the flight deck :D

Edit: Ill take some decent pics soon.

this pic was taken about 8 years ago when i wasnt even into skylines or buildings, and was just takin a random pic of about a quarter of leeds skyline. it actually looks quite good. i'll have to try and work out where it was taken and take the same pic now.


looks better than it does now?

Flickr Pic from the M67!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2066/2242503548_dd1a69f904_o.jpg

PORTSMOUTH

from Skinnyde on Flickr
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/106/297970431_ff4aade04b_b.jpg

pre Admirality Quarter Tower by Auntie P on Flickr

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/207/489030255_39b9d0d5d0_b.jpg

from Alex Hopkins on Flickr, ok not a skyline shot but look at the cranes and ship masts.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1224/527548243_524e8e3354_b.jpg

Admirality Quarter still has a few floors to go in this from beefym1 on Flickr
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1346/1016697171_7e0d9395fe_b.jpg

The islands of Portsmouth from Traumahawk on Flickr
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2241/1587383451_a613a5f646_b.jpg

Old Portsmouth Skyline from Jainbow on Flickr
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1415/1407994605_6caf353456_b.jpg

From andrew boatswain on flickr
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1223/616292395_7ef14f35cc_b.jpg

I need to take a Proper Skyline Pic.

well, the potential is there :yes: (and's already being realised)

I honestly think Portsmouths is better than Leeds', and no that is not an attack at Wiggly or any other Leeds forumer. I just think its more attractive with more too it.



by that token, you would find portsmouth's skyline better than say manchester's too for example.

i'm sure portsmouths skyline is pretty, in much the same way that york has a pretty skyline. but its not the same as a dense city skyline of talls. I guess they come under two wholly diferent tables.

looks better than it does now?

i mean the photo looks good. Not necesarily the skyline. I think all uk cities' skylines look quite horrific and non existent when compared to international cities.. even international cities a quarter of the size of uk cities. :ohno:

You say you're only kidding Erebus, but you're not really are you? ;)

Sshh, I understand Wiggley has returned ;).

i mean the photo looks good. Not necesarily the skyline. I think all uk cities' skylines look quite horrific and non existent when compared to international cities.. even international cities a quarter of the size of uk cities. :ohno:

dunno, i dont mind london's, Liverpool's and Birmingham's which are all coming along quite nicely in their own unique ways imho. Manchester's will get there too eventually.


;)

dunno, i dont mind london's, Liverpool's and Birmingham's which are all coming along quite nicely in their own unique ways imho. Manchester's will get there too eventually.


;)

What's brought on the bitchy trolling comments again? You had become slightly normal for a bit. My picture i posted clearly made you very emotive. It's usually a good sign that its a good pic. Perhaps thats why liverpool's population is still in decline - shitty bitchy attitudes of people like you ;) lol

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2261/2132126914_f1e402fe27_b.jpg

^^

It's better then Leeds.

^^

It's better then Leeds.

*yawn* do you ever stop trolling. grow up, and get a face lift (ive seen ur pic), then find a gf.. or a small animal or something to vent your fustrations out on.

:cheers:

*yawn* do you ever stop trolling. grow up, and get a face lift (ive seen ur pic), then find a gf.. or a small animal or something to vent your fustrations out on.

:cheers:

:llama:

Can you explain why i am a llama?

Is it because I objected to yet another one of VanHecklers unprovoked trolling comments. Damn, I had the *sheer audacity* to respond and make a rebuttal. Therefore i must be a llama.

Why dont you fuck of, and stop spoiling threads. Both of you.

Can you explain why i am a llama?

Is it because I objected to yet another one of VanHecklers unprovoked trolling comments. Damn, I had the *sheer audacity* to respond and make a rebuttal. Therefore i must be a llama.

Why dont you fuck of, and stop spoiling threads. Both of you.

:llama:

:llama:

:llama:

:llama:

:llama:

:llama:

That would really suit you as an avatar! :yes:

That would really suit you as an avatar! :yes:

:llama:

fuxake, its like machu picchu in here with all these :llama:

:lol:

:llama:

:llama:

You've said that in your last three posts. They have consisted of nothing but :llama:. :no:

You've said that in your last three posts. They have consisted of nothing but :llama:. :no:

:llama:

Four posts. Now fuck off and let this thread revert back to the purpose for which it was originally intended - discussing the best present skyline, which obviously isn't Leeds by the looks of the poll results! :|

Four posts. Now fuck off and let this thread revert back to the purpose for which it was originally intended - discussing the best present skyline, which obviously isn't Leeds by the looks of the poll results! :|

:llama:

Oh god stop being childish, now as erbuss said lets get back on topic, oh let me guess you will respond to this as LLama! Thats original.

errrm hello? I never strayed OFF topic, ive merely responded to each and every attack from the brummy trolls (vanheckler, stehpen robinson, erebuss555) who *yet again* have launched into their ususal unprovoked childish attacks.

So, i wont let them spoil *another* thread. Any comments from them that are off topic, stemming from their childish attack will rebutted with the llama sign. :)

errrm hello? I never strayed OFF topic, untill the brummy trolls (vanheckler, stehpen robinson, erebuss555) launched their ususal unprovoked childish attacks.

So, i wont let them spoil *another* thread. Any comments from them that are off topic, stemming from their childish attack will rebutted with the llama sign. :)

What have I supposed attack have I done for you to start that pointless tirade?

PS. Stephen isn't Brummie!

try reading up. you just cant help yourself can you. I've not attacked, you or brum. Yet you insist on entering this thread and making a dig at leeds. This dig went ignored in hope you will go away), but then you make a 2nd dig, a personal attack at me, even tho i had still not attacked you or brum. This personal dig at me by you was responded with by a llama sign (rather than a personal attack back), to which you make further personal attacks where you have the sheer cheek to tell *me* to get back on topic. lmao

Just stop spoiling threads. Ignoring you trolls doesnt work, you just get more vociferous untill someone bites.

try reading up. you just cant help yourself can you. I've not attacked, you or brum. Yet you insist on entering this thread and making a dig at leeds. This dig went ignored in hope you will go away), but then you make a 2nd dig, a personal attack at me, even tho i had still not attacked you or brum. This personal dig at me by you was responded with by a llama sign (rather than a personal attack back), to which you make further personal attacks where you have the sheer cheek to tell *me* to get back on topic. lmao

Just stop spoiling threads. Ignoring you trolls doesnt work, you just get more vociferous untill someone bites.

I have not personally attacked you anywhere?! What are you reading there in Wiggleyworld!? Is it something like a dig on Leeds is a personal attack on you? If so, then grow up.

ur first dig on leeds was comparing its skyline to wolverhampton or somewhere, which was said as a joke at first, but made concrete with this bit here

You then proceed with this

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=18236571#post18236571

and it all that time u were never attacked by me, nor was birmingham.

Just give it a rest.

ur first dig on leeds was comparing its skyline to wolverhampton or somewhere, which was said as a joke at first, but made concrete with this bit

Which too was a joke. I didn't want you to start waving that table around again!

You then proceed with this

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=18236571#post18236571

and it all that time u were never attacked by me, nor was birmingham.

Just give it a rest.

No, you'd just pissed me off and I had had enough of you posting that fucking smiley four times in a row. I can accept it a couple of times but when you hit three and four, it gets tiresome and I had enough.

That faux London / Leeds twat is such a fucking fanny.

What's brought on the bitchy trolling comments again? You had become slightly normal for a bit. My picture i posted clearly made you very emotive. It's usually a good sign that its a good pic. Perhaps thats why liverpool's population is still in decline - shitty bitchy attitudes of people like you ;) lol

i wasn't trolling, t'was said in jest, hence the wink. Alas, it seems I have opened a can of wiggley worms. Sorry dude, I wasn't being nasty.

It also seems you've remembered the old Klingon proverb, "Revenge is a dish best served cold, with a side order of cutting population based statistics"

:tongue2:

Wayhey! It's the SSC llama farm. Let's race em!

Wayhey! It's the SSC llama farm. Let's race em! Wiggleyweeds is an expert on Llamas, Vicunas and Alpacas seeing as they are all wool providing animals and he hails from the wool, albeit sheeps wool, capital of the world.:lol:

By Adman posted in the Liverpool forum..

http://www.liverpolitan.co.uk/febwf2.jpg

The Anglican is the real 4th grace in that photo.

by that token, you would find portsmouth's skyline better than say manchester's too for example.

i'm sure portsmouths skyline is pretty, in much the same way that york has a pretty skyline. but its not the same as a dense city skyline of talls. I guess they come under two wholly diferent tables.

Actually manchester is one of 3 skylines i would put before Portsmouth (excluding London)

For me it goes Birmingham, Liverpool, Manchester, Portsmouth.

And I dont get the density thing, Portsmouth is has the highest population density in the country. its just a sea of 5-6 story buildings in the city centre.

I honestly dont think Leeds skyline is impressive at all for a city its size, however once Lumiere and hopefully Criterion which are FANTASTIC designs are finally built Leeds will look awesome.

Actually manchester is one of 3 skylines i would put before Portsmouth (excluding London)

For me it goes Birmingham, Liverpool, Manchester, Portsmouth.

And I dont get the density thing, Portsmouth is has the highest population density in the country. its just a sea of 5-6 story buildings in the city centre.


:rofl:

What are you laughing at wiggely? :dunno:

Seems like a perfectly reasonable post to me.

the Spinnaker tower really makes the skyline :yes:

The spinnaker tower really IS the skyline, also add a vibrant harbour and the new east side plaza then you have something which is hard to beat. Add 2 or 3 towers more and then i think it will be the best (as long as they dont make the spinnaker tower look dumpy and are well placed). It doesnt take a sea of highrises to form a 'beautiful' skyline, and I really wouldnt swap the spinnaker tower for all the towers in Leeds - but this is not to say that i think all Leeds towers are awful, but that i rate the spinaker tower highly.

Liverpool definitely has the most rounded and distinctive skyline of all the major cities outside London.

It isnt the tallest or most dense, but it has real character and effortlessly mixes grand old imperial buildings with modern talls. You get the feeling with other cities that they are continually waiting for their next big development that will set off their skyline. You dont feel that with Liverpool. It has its character and style already and future development should just add to and improve that, instead of having to provide an X Factor.