Colmore circus tower (?)
Colmore Gate. It has been declared (by the Brum forumers) that this building is the one that deserves to be taller.

Mclaren
Wow, one of the few who do like that!

With a few pinnacle towers brum could be impressive on a european scale, escpecially with having the advantage of a ridge through the city centre.

The council support highrises that are built on the ridge and emphasise its existence. This is one of the challenges for pinnacle as it is off the ridge.

http://static.flickr.com/55/148411936_2d8d4e18fb_o.jpg

Really digging this angle :)

There's a slight elegance about the Mancunian skyline dont you think?...

Brum's is just bum check brutal in places...

There's a slight elegance about the Mancunian skyline dont you think?...

Brum's is just bum check brutal in places...


elegance? I can see only 1 tall which is an old elegant looking building there, I dont see modern Architecture type block buildings as elegance?
Looks more like lego land :lol:

I do see some modern buildings as elegant. Manchester's skyline is certainly not elegant. There are very few cities that could be described as having an elegant skyline; a few elegant buildings doesnt mean the skyline is elegant. If it did, most cities would have 'elegant' skylines.

But aren't most of the Mcr towers in that skyline shot Brutal (whether modern or 60's)? The CJC is, Beetham could be, there are a few sixties ones, a couple of sloping towers and the lovely Town Hall. The rest are midrises.

(And that's not a dig - just a comment)

That huge slab of grey of the CJC did look very impossing the last time I went to Manchester, just the right shade of silvery/grey but it was a loverly sunny day, on a grey downcast day I dunno?

There's a slight elegance about the Mancunian skyline dont you think?...

:rofl: That has made my day.

That has made my day

What? Cant make your own? Sad erebussy.

elegance? I can see only 1 tall which is an old elegant looking building there, I dont see modern Architecture type block buildings as elegance?
Looks more like lego land

Who are you again? :dunno:
Ah yes... Long winded and completely pointless :)

Beetham looks superb on there. CJC. It's all fresh! Manchester is fresh! Brum is not...

I mean goodness me :ohno:
That shot of brum looks dated already! Half those legoblocks have had drunks tiddle on em', I swear. Just knock them all down and do yourself a favour. Selfridges is a goregeous building, complete gem! A charming walk around when you pay a visit too, shame its plonked in the center of a shanty town.

There's a slight elegance about the Mancunian skyline dont you think?...

Brum's is just bum check brutal in places...

You're having a laugh aren't you??!! Manchester's is such a confused, middle of the road, dilapidated skyline ...... but it does fit in with most other Northern cities!

Beetham looks superb on there. CJC. It's all fresh! Manchester is fresh! Brum is not...

I mean goodness me :ohno:
That shot of brum looks dated already! Half those legoblocks have had drunks tiddle on em', I swear. Just knock them all down and do yourself a favour. Selfridges is a goregeous building, complete gem! A charming walk around when you pay a visit too, shame its plonked in the center of a shanty town.

Beetham looks boring - as usual. CJC looks fresh... from the 60s and Manchester is having a whale of a time making the mistake Bimringham made 40 years ago.

Manchester needs alot of help itself. City Tower looks about as aethetically pleasing as Roly Poly magazine as for CIS, sure you've had a makeover and it has all the new state of the art stuff put on it but everyone knows what's under neath that and it certainly isnt pretty.

At least this shanty town has twice as more residents than Manchester. Oh and I have never known a building in a shanty town to sell for £150 mil before it has even had its frame completed...

Who are you again? :dunno:

Your definatley in bell end mode there you cheeky twat! :bash:

you dont seem to know s**t, so stop talking bollocks about your legoskyline :lol:

What? Cant make your own? Sad erebussy.



Who are you again? :dunno:
Ah yes... Long winded and completely pointless :)

Beetham looks superb on there. CJC. It's all fresh! Manchester is fresh! Brum is not...

I mean goodness me :ohno:
That shot of brum looks dated already! Half those legoblocks have had drunks tiddle on em', I swear. Just knock them all down and do yourself a favour. Selfridges is a goregeous building, complete gem! A charming walk around when you pay a visit too, shame its plonked in the center of a shanty town.

You have to the most ballbusting moron.

Look at it from any other angle from where the inudstrial warehouses and tower blocks arent it still destroys Manchester hands down.

http://static.flickr.com/60/209953806_61dcb8aff7_o.jpg

It seems your using the frontage in that last picture as an excuse to ignore the fact that Brum's skyline is quite clearly the best, most dense and shaped skyline in the UK outside the capital.

^^Who took that? Nice to see the clock tower getting in that shot too. Once again, look how green it is.

as for CIS, sure you've had a makeover and it has all the new state of the art stuff put on it but everyone knows what's under neath that and it certainly isnt pretty.


Wow, you chat some shit.

If only you could be honest enough and say the same about some of your forumers. :ohno:

If only you could be honest enough and say the same about some of your forumers. :ohno:

I don't own any forumers. I look in a thread and see someone implying that CIS is a poor building because of what's underneath it's reclad, and I point out that this is indeed bullshit. I don't have any obligation to go through and read every post and point out where mancs have said shit, I'm sure theres plenty.

:lol:

FLD is taking on "the North", Manc-Guy actually said something vaguely nice about Brum, and I want to rechristen Brum "Bimringham" (thanks Erebus!)

For the record - p-v panels are a waste of money (never pay back).

Interesting fact from our forums: the Brum skyline is 2 miles across from Hagley Road Commercial District to the Pinnacle/end of proposed Curzon Park :cool:

Wow, you chat some shit.

I say that because half the Mancs on here start going on that CIS is the best thing to happen to Manchester since sliced bread.

2 miles is quite a skyline. :)

But you pull up on one quote from a brummie? did you have an obligation to reply in a foul way to Erebus? :ohno:

:lol:

FLD is taking on "the North", Manc-Guy actually said something vaguely nice about Brum, and I want to rechristen Brum "Bimringham" (thanks Erebus!)


:ohno: You won't believe how many times I spell it like that, my spellchecker usually sorts it but this time I forgot. I sincerely apologise!

But you pull up on one quote from a brummie? did you have an obligation to reply in a foul way to Erebus? :ohno:

Obviously not, I just felt like it.

I don't understand how anyone can think that CIS tower looks nice.

I hate it but I didnt want to say it because I knew that I would probably get slated by people from Birmingham as well and especially after seeing Downtown Mark and Elizabeth Kinoke on the city bashing thread, I tried to avoid it.

CIS is big and ugly (not sure whether that is better than being small and ugly), although the new work on it is a vast improvement. I guess p-v panels are useful after all :)

Who are you again?

Your definatley in bell end mode there you cheeky twat!

you dont seem to know s**t, so stop talking bollocks about your legoskyline

...obviously the guy has a few screws loose :hammer:

I can forgive him...

You have to the most ballbusting moron.

Beleive me you, I am only this way when I've had enough... :tyty:

as for CIS, sure you've had a makeover and it has all the new state of the art stuff put on it but everyone knows what's under neath that and it certainly isnt pretty.

...when are we ever going to see that again silly? Poor premise for an argument. Could say the same for rotunda, BT and we all know how that BT attempt turned out (bar the brummies who like it...)

:applause:

I don't understand how anyone can think that CIS tower looks nice.


Since the reclad? Rocks...

http://www.solarcentury.com/var/cache/texttoimage/imageobject/a/e/d/aedc38bbc16d85a8cbd150b1a51311a7/completed_cis_tower_imagelarge-stamp.jpg

Smart as fook! Kicks the stuffing out of any tall brum has. Sorry...

Erm. Apart from those reflective windows (I have sommat against refleective windows, possibly cause they look shite), and that daft lift shaft that sticks out too far at the top, and i'm not keen on the black bit's of cladding, but they might look alright if it wern't for the reflective windows.

Since the reclad? Rocks...



Smart as fook! Kicks the stuffing out of any tall brum has. Sorry...

Erm:
No it doesn't rock, and,
No it doesn't kick the stuffing out of any tall brum has.

Erm. Apart from those reflective windows (I have sommat against refleective windows, possibly cause they look shite), and that daft lift shaft that sticks out too far at the top, and i'm not keen on the black bit's of cladding, but they might look alright if it wern't for the reflective windows.

Erm:
No it doesn't rock, and,
No it doesn't kick the stuffing out of any tall brum has.


Now theres a thought provoking post. Try harder...

I never used to like CIS. The service tower was the worst bit.

Since the reclad, the service tower is the best bit.

The rest looks a bit, well, pants.

It (like many others in cities around the country) is a dull design.

Beetham is a great improvement :yes:

I say that because half the Mancs on here start going on that CIS is the best thing to happen to Manchester since sliced bread.


Your all going on like its still ugly with a concrete shaft! It looks good, get over it!!!

Now theres a thought provoking post. Try harder...

Are any post's on this forum very though provoking? :runaway:

http://static.flickr.com/60/209953806_61dcb8aff7_o.jpg

Yeah nice that is. Looks like the bottom of my paint palette. A murky mess...

It still is ugly. The shaft is still a shaft that holds no architectural merit to it whatsoever. Windows are tacky and cheap. The only good thing that tower is for is jumping off it because of the terrible and missed opportunity they had and producing a true spectacle and something that might even rival something in Birmingham.

Yeah nice that is. Looks like the bottom of my paint palette. A murky mess...

Thats why 1 million people live in it...

Are any post's on this forum very though provoking?

Well yes, there are. Have a gander...

A murky mess...

This is what exactly makes great cities. Thanks :)

Thats why 1 million people live in it...


What in my paint palette?

something that might even rival something in Birmingham.


Right okay, do your best to prove it doestnt already. HCT is the only one, and you know it. I like the back of HCT co-incidentally...

A murky mess...

This is what exactly makes great cities. Thanks


what ever makes you happy love...

Mancheaters. Lets not beat around the bush. You guys are superbly scrumptulecent and above all other humans on this earth. We respect your dosey ideas, God damn plain noisy music and your amazing ability to laugh at your self :sleepy:

Please ... let us all take a bow for the future leaders of our world. Manc Guy :master: :master: :master:

^^ :lol:

Right okay, do your best to prove it doestnt already. HCT is the only one, and you know it. I like the back of HCT co-incidentally...

Alpha Tower is certainly better. Its shape is a hell of a lot more original than CIS and from a distance does not look dark, dull or gloomy. Hyatt, reflective glass - yikes! Product of its own time then but it still works. The different colours form a nice geometric pattern which has made it iconic in some form to people from Birmingham... I also like the back of HCT. When Rotundas done that'll be just as good. Metropolitan House on the Hagley Road has reflective windows again, but they suit the colour of the building and dont look tacky or like they've been ripped off the back of Dave the tiler's van from down the road. And to think Met House built at the same time as CCT - it looks modern still!

What in my paint palette?



Right okay, do your best to prove it doestnt already. HCT is the only one, and you know it. I like the back of HCT co-incidentally...

Hyatt might not be as tall, but it's damn nice, and The council tower (not sure what it's called, the one infront of hyatt). They're both nicer than CIS. +HCT, I think that make's 3?

Your all going on like its still ugly with a concrete shaft! It looks good, get over it!!!

It doesn't in any way look good. The Art's tower in Sheffield look better. (A LOT better).

Alpha Tower. That's what it's called.

Sorry, bit of a rampage tonight. Been building up you see...

If youv'e been here long as i have, you'd understand, the brum lot were/are just as bad back in the day, the newer batch of young puppies dont seem any different. Stood on the fence to long I have. It's war from here on im afraid. But we all like a bit of banter dont we, forums are dead without it....

Dont like. Dont care. Im off to get rat arsed. In a bit...

:tyty:

Sorry, before i jet.

It doesn't in any way look good. The Art's tower in Sheffield look better. (A LOT better).


:hahaha:

Regarding CIS tower ,the solar panels look very sharp and crystaline in the flesh and the tower looks great at night bathed in blue floodlights. I have always been a little indifferent to this tower but I am getting to like it the more I see it, it is still a decent height even by todays standards being only 4m shorter than HCT and slightly taller than Bridgwater in Leeds. Are there any listed towers in Brum ?It certainly outclasses all of Brums towers apart from HCT but that is a matter of opinion.

Some smart snaps of Leeds
http://static.flickr.com/113/289626930_0122b127bc_b.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/110/289554876_f0128ffed2_b.jpg

Are there any listed towers in Brum ?

The Rotunda is.

To be fair, Leeds does look quite dense on the second photo but not too keen on the buildings. BP looks like some sort of guardian.

Sorry, bit of a rampage tonight. Been building up you see...

If youv'e been here long as i have, you'd understand, the brum lot were/are just as bad back in the day, the newer batch of young puppies dont seem any different. Stood on the fence to long I have. It's war from here on im afraid. But we all like a bit of banter dont we, forums are dead without it....

Dont like. Dont care. Im off to get rat arsed. In a bit...

:tyty:

I am beginning to warm to you now Mr Guy :banana:

Sorry, bit of a rampage tonight. Been building up you see...

If youv'e been here long as i have, you'd understand, the brum lot were/are just as bad back in the day, the newer batch of young puppies dont seem any different. Stood on the fence to long I have. It's war from here on im afraid. But we all like a bit of banter dont we, forums are dead without it....

Dont like. Dont care. Im off to get rat arsed. In a bit...

:tyty:

Lol. Have fun.

errr... it should have had 4 smilies. One for each beef!

:master: <-bio :master: <- Slim :master: <-Busboy :master: <-SteelCityBoy

That skyline shot of Brum sums us up really - a bit of grime, a bit of green, a bit of an edge, a bit of steel, a bit of ingenuity, a bit of brashness, a bit of a jumble, a bit of a jungle, and of course a bit of modesty. That's why we love it - we know we're a mess but a loveable old rogue of a mess that doesn't want or need London's luvvie praise like Manchester always receives.

Seriously, it's like lining 5 lumps of dog shit up and asking which is best? They're all fucking awful.

doesn't want or need London's luvvie praise like Manchester always receives.

It's a conspiracy I tells ya. Like the National Stadium. Like the motor show. Like the closing of Rover. Like the underinvested airport. JK

Erm:
No it doesn't rock, and,
No it doesn't kick the stuffing out of any tall brum has.

No it's not pretty, but as far as 60s towers go CIS is a very high standard. It's certainly not ugly and it beats anything Birmingham has from this period.

Seriously, it's like lining 5 lumps of dog shit up and asking which is best? They're all fucking awful.

You don't see white ones anymore :?

It's a conspiracy I tells ya. Like the National Stadium. Like the motor show. Like the closing of Rover. Like the underinvested airport. JK

Raaaaah!!!!!:bleep:

There is a conspiracy!!!

National Stadium AND the fucking Millennium Project, both of which London has fucked up big style. And they are already floundering on the Olympics and that is 5 1/2 years away!!

The motor show they can keep (fewer people through the door = greater success according to the SMMT - go figure).

The airport is our own fault, and Rover, well. Glad it's gone really - it is like watching your favourite pet (Rover?) get really ill. They had the chance to save it but the government stuck their oar in a got Phoenix instead of Alchemy to run it (although I am sure govt intentions were good).

Anyway, Longbridge is coming on leaps and bounds now :)

No it's not pretty, but as far as 60s towers go CIS is a very high standard. It's certainly not ugly and it beats anything Birmingham has from this period.

CIS is about as pretty as Janet Street Porter.

An institution, yes (and I would be vociferously defending it if it were in Brum) but good, no.

The service tower is awful. That's what ruins it IMO and Sheffield's Arts Tower is better because it is a bit more graceful and slender.

How old is the CIS? Because if it is 60's then I would say Rotunda would beat it, but then I would wouldn't I? :tongue2:

CIS is about as pretty as Janet Street Porter.



I'd fuck her in her younger days, however, i'm not that fussy!!!

CIS is about as pretty as Janet Street Porter.

An institution, yes (and I would be vociferously defending it if it were in Brum) but good, no.

The service tower is awful. That's what ruins it IMO and Sheffield's Arts Tower is better because it is a bit more graceful and slender.

How old is the CIS? Because if it is 60's then I would say Rotunda would beat it, but then I would wouldn't I? :tongue2:

CIS completed in 1962.
Sheffield Arts tower is about as bland as a building can be.
I hope the Rotundas reclad turns out as good as the CIS - it looks great imo, especially in the sun.

CIS completed in 1962.
Sheffield Arts tower is about as bland as a building can be.
I hope the Rotundas reclad turns out as good as the CIS - it looks great imo, especially in the sun.

The Rotunda will be cock on when it's finished!

I'd fuck her in her younger days, however, i'm not that fussy!!!

:rofl:

No it's not pretty, but as far as 60s towers go CIS is a very high standard. It's certainly not ugly and it beats anything Birmingham has from this period.

Except Alpha Tower.

Oh yeah - Alpha AND Rotunda.

Any more?

Well done - you've found 2 buildings from the period.
Now find me a nice one.

(I'm judging Rotunda from before the reclad. I'm reserving judgment on the update until its finished)

Hey - you are judging CIS AFTER the reclad compared to Rotunda BEFORE?

Is that fair?

Alpha defecates all over CIS for looks (I am too polite to say shit.... :doh: )

Might not be fair, but the Rotunda isnt finished so what can i do other than wait and see.

But as for Alpha I beg to differ.

But for what its worth the CIS before reclad was better than the Rotunda.

But for what its worth the CIS before reclad was better than the Rotunda.

That was worth nothing mate.

For what its worth, I'm not your mate.

You are my mate though (through pitty)
I may not be yours, but you're certainly mine. :)

For what its worth, I think its a good thing Van that Major"semi-retard"Mystery is'nt your mate.

You are my mate though (through pitty)
I may not be yours, but you're certainly mine. :)

Ok.
But its spelt 'pity'.

Thanks for correcting me 'mate'

CIS

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/118CISTower_pic40.jpg

Alpha

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/154AlphaTower_pic1.jpg

What are you guys smoking. Can i have some please...

your delusional.

Maybe when CIS was a concrete shaft, maybe.

Alpha's a stunner.

:banana:

Thanks for correcting me 'mate'


Not bad for a semi retard hey.

Alpha's a stunner.


:nuts:

Have you ever wondered why Alpha has stayed so white? Ill give you a hint. Male skyscraper fans hormones ;)

I think its a little unfair that you are comparing that photo od CIS with that photo of Alpha. Its sunny in the CIS 1 for a start and everyone knows that everything looks better in the sun.
The photo of CIS doesn't show its surroundings while the one of Alpha makes it look like its surrounded by nothing but council blocks I think that may well be the worst possible angle to see it from.
Finally the fact that CIS needed a reclad before anyone had a nice word to say about it must tell you something, whereas Alpha hasn't even had a scrub or new coat of paint and people still look at it.
Plus Alpha has an interesting shape while CIS is like some soviet monolith.

I should say that I quite like CIS.

But what about the office bit of CIS - it looks shabby now compared to the lift shaft.

Alpha could do with a scrub and encasing the communications cluster, but otherwise she be damn fine :)

I think its a little unfair that you are comparing that photo od CIS with that photo of Alpha. Its sunny in the CIS 1 for a start and everyone knows that everything looks better in the sun.
The photo of CIS doesn't show its surroundings while the one of Alpha makes it look like its surrounded by nothing but council blocks I think that may well be the worst possible angle to see it from.
Finally the fact that CIS needed a reclad before anyone had a nice word to say about it must tell you something, whereas Alpha hasn't even had a scrub or new coat of paint and people still look at it.
Plus Alpha has an interesting shape while CIS is like some soviet monolith.

Lets make it more fair.

Here is an image of CIS with no sun and showing its surroundings.
http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/nov2004/20041109_cis.jpg

And one of Alpha in the sun without the council blocks.
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photos/18/52/185206_9a89718a.jpg

If you have better pics of Alpha post them up.

Alpha's rank...

Alpha rocks.

If you have better pics of Alpha post them up.

I would say 2 of these photos by Shel are better...

http://www.linearb.net/180/172.jpg

http://www.linearb.net/180/179.jpg

http://www.linearb.net/180/180.jpg

The middle one is really good we should compare that to the one of CIS up close.

The middle one is really good we should compare that to the one of CIS up close.

This maybe. Cant get much closer because of the offices at the base.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/robinsonworld/HPIM0935.jpg

This may be too close!
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a251/pookey1967/cis2304closeup.jpg

CIS tower has a much better quality finish than alpha tower close up.Alpha tower looks dirty close up and that gold coloured edging on the windows need replacing.

Check these two out

http://www.flickr.com/photos/fotofacade/286910779/

http://static.flickr.com/68/229373843_87b2b29811.jpg?v=0

There's no comparison between the flimsy fucking Alpha Building and the CIS Tower. Where's my LMAO T-Shirt, I need to put it on.

I simply cant believe your comparing a newly refirbished building (CIS) with one which hasn't been touched for decades (Alpha). Hardly a fair comparison.

CIS looks good imo. So does alpha. Such an interesting shape and so prominant on the skyline.

I'm glad someone has the sense to realize...

Sorry I had to.

I had to see someone say 'alpha towers better'. I just wanted the laugh. Sorry I go for the buzz everytime. Its just me...

Alpha Tower was completed 11 years after CIS. There may be a change in design styles. I'll always stick to good old Alpha. She's a beaut, especially considering the stuff being built in the 60s and 70s were al boxes. This one has a bit of originality to it.

Oh and KITR, the second photo does nothing for CIS. In fact, its done the complete opposite of what you intended it to do.

I'm glad someone has the sense to realize...

Sorry I had to.

I had to see someone say 'alpha towers better'. I just wanted the laugh. Sorry I go for the buzz everytime. Its just me...

I'm still laughing at the comment saying Sheffield Arts tower was better.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/robinsonworld/HPIM0935.jpg

It's a really nice looking tower now. Look at it, shes damm goregeous.

Alpha. The thing I do like about it, is the correlation of the windows. Short spacing between each, rather large glazing. Need's a reclad, but then, so does 99% of the built infastructure in Birmingham city center :lol:

Would a reclad be possible? Would be rather tedious would it not? But then look at Rotunda.

I'm still laughing at the comment saying Sheffield Arts tower was better.

He's a kid. I gotta' forgive him...

^^It would be the council paying for it cus they have a lot of their offices in there. New Street does not need a reclad - it needs a fucking reconstruction. Snow Hill, looks OK for the moment and I have no problem with Snow Hill.

Rotunda is going to be a gorgeous lady when shes done. We have found the windows have a slight hint of green in them. Third tier of windows and cladding should be going up now.

Any pictures? Hopefully nothing to green, nothing too Beetham. I remember seeing visualtions of the reclad. Looked very smart, completley different image.

Would a reclad be possible? Would be rather tedious would it not? But then look at Rotunda.

Just re-glazing would be enough. Wait till its Big brother is built then see what happens.

Not many buildings left now that really need a re-clad in brum. Most are done or being done as we speak.

Any pictures? Hopefully nothing to green, nothing too Beetham. I remember seeing visualtions of the reclad. Looked very smart, completley different image.

Well I cant tell the colour but Bio is the one who spotted it I believe. I cant be bothered to post pictures. Just check out the Rotunda thread on the Brum forums.

Oh and KITR, the second photo does nothing for CIS. In fact, its done the complete opposite of what you intended it to do.

What do you think i intended it to do?

Well I dont think I need to explain when I see where you are from...

I'm still laughing at the comment saying Sheffield Arts tower was better.

Check these two out

http://www.flickr.com/photos/fotofacade/286910779/

http://static.flickr.com/68/229373843_87b2b29811.jpg?v=0

Put non-reflective windows in it in that photo, and it basically would be the Art's Tower.

And no-matter how hard you try, your not gonna manage to convert the people who think it looks crap into liking it.

@Manc Guy, where did you get the idea that i'm a kid from?

@Manc Guy, where did you get the idea that i'm a kid from?
If you're not, you should take it as a compliment. Thats what they tell me in Asda when i'm being id'd when buying beer. :cheers:

^^ I get it all the time. I have to carry my passport round with me all the time.

Me too, but i don't even look that young and whats really crazy is that if i'm waring jeans and t-shirt I deffo get asked, If i'm wearing a shirt and tie i'll probs get asked but if I'm wearing my Environment Agency name badge I never ever get asked its amazing the difference a small rectangle of plastic with a corporate logo on can make.
But getting back on topic, Birmingham has the best present skyline.

@Manc Guy, where did you get the idea that i'm a kid from?


Reading a post of yours, is like reading a page from a childrens toy book :|

Sorry. Thats where i got it from.

And no-matter how hard you try, your not gonna manage to convert the people who think it looks crap into liking it.


I think your arguing for the sake of arguing now.

Convert people? What? Necromonger aswell as Mancunian now!? Just call me Jesus baby! I'm mearly pointing out that to dislike the building since it's reclad is either silly past prejudice filtering into common sense, or, Brum folk realising it shits on everything they have, so decide to pull the chain one of ours :D

Shefield's, tower, isn't even in discussion, it's not a Shefield thread. I bet half the forumers reading this line of conversation went and looked it up, like its something we had to know about :doh:

Oh thy great and wondrous piece of architectural beauty City Tower!
http://k43.pbase.com/u26/ihor/large/31701522.PC.jpg

Everybody make sure you run your opinion past Manc Guy before expressing it.

I prefer the maths tower too. I don't think either tower is famous, but the sheffield one is surely the more famous of the two?

Reading a post of yours, is like reading a page from a childrens toy book :|

Sorry. Thats where i got it from.



I think your arguing for the sake of arguing now.

Convert people? What? Necromonger aswell as Mancunian now!? Just call me Jesus baby! I'm mearly pointing out that to dislike the building since it's reclad is either silly past prejudice filtering into common sense, or, Brum folk realising it shits on everything they have, so decide to pull the chain one of ours :D

Shefield's, tower, isn't even in discussion, it's not a Shefield thread. I bet half the forumers reading this line of conversation went and looked it up, like its something we had to know about :doh:

A children's toy book? What?

Man, your spelling and grammar are awful. I wouldn't go around saying other's posts read like "children's toy books" when you can't master the comma.

Oh thy great and wondrous piece of architectural beauty City Tower!


It's rank...

Everybody make sure you run your opinion past Manc Guy before expressing it.


I could easily say same about you.

I could easily say same about you.

:lol:
Not that easily, eh?

Well, i'm 18, so I probably do rank as a kid in your eye's.

It's rank...


Erm, I obviously have very conflicting views with you if you think that City tower's rank and CIS isn't.

I think City Tower is the nicer building by far. :lol:

It's rank...


And the refurb isn't doing wonders is it?

Here's the worst...

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j129/van_heckler/ARNDALE.gif

Give me a Sentinal over that lump of elephant dung any day of the week.

Eew. Where's that?

That's in "The Republic" don't you know. :lol:

Subliving.

Shame the IRA didn't park in the Arndale tower in 1996.

^^Lol. I think that's' what he meant :-P

It's in Manchester isn't it?

That's in "The Republic" don't you know.

And what's "The Republic"?

And what's "The Republic"?

Some fucking stupid nickname for Manchester that United fans came up with apparently.

Damn right that is stupid. Pretty much sums up the Man U supporters :). Only kidding.

And what's "The Republic"?

Oh is that what it means i assumed that it meant ROI. What a stupid nickname for a city that is the puppet of London
:naughty:

Damn right that is stupid. Pretty much sums up the Man U supporters :). Only kidding.

SimonTheSoundMan supports the filth that is Manchester United.

Oh is that what it means i assumed that it meant ROI. What a stupid nickname for a city that is the puppet of London
:naughty:
It's just a stupid nickname per se. 'Puppet of London'. I'll take that as a compliment.

Take it as ya like man, I cant really comment on the city of Manchester cos i've not been there, its just the way things look from down here in the WM sometimes.

http://www.rit.edu/~aac9486/imm/media/rachelstevens.jpg
Woah!

That stuff about Manc being a London puppet is just a bit wierd and shhhiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiittttttttteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer. Its obvious that Manchester is a direct competition to LDN by nicking all its stuff. If it makes an effort over the next decade, Birmingham could possibly become a threat to Nottingham, but other than that its not looking too good.

Uhh? Did you say Manchester is in competition with London? Not even close, and never will be, neither will Birmingham, Liverpool, Leeds or Glasgow. London is like #1 city on earth, don't kid yourself you nob.

Purlease Notts isn't a patch on Brum although it is v. pretty I'd say Nottingham is more of a rival to Sheffield than Brum, I mean lets face it if u were to rank British cities then Brum and Manc would be the seond tier, far from London and far from Leeds and Glasgow which would be the best of the rest.

Uhh? Did you say Manchester is in competition with London? Not even close, and never will be, neither will Birmingham, Liverpool, Leeds or Glasgow. London is like #1 city on earth, don't kid yourself you nob.
Hmmm?? :|
Maybe Manc isnt at the same level as London, but its certainly moved up a level in terms of competition on a broader scale. While other provincial cities are still trying to compete with each other, Manchester is circling around London taking the goodies. London is hardly handing them over. Do you think 'London' is happy to lose government departments, international recognition, and a large chunk of the BBC? No ;)

I thought so yes, but now you've set me straight eh? So Manchester told the BBC to move from London to Manchester rather than it being the London based BBC's idea? News to me.

I thought so yes, but now you've set me straight eh? So Manchester told the BBC to move from London to Manchester rather than it being the London based BBC's idea? News to me.
Its called marketing. Something that Manchester is very good at and something that Brum seems to be incredibly poor at. Manchester makes itself the best city in the UK outside London. Manchester tells businesses (like the BBC) that Manchester is a good place to do business. Companies like the BBC (convinced by Manchester's marketing) decide that Manchester is as good place to do business and save money and moving there would be more beneficial than keeping departments in London or moving them to another UK city (like Birmingham)

Come one people, isn't it about time we all woke up and realised, Manchester is by far better than London. I mean, damn! It now has a Yo Shushi! That means that it's poaching business from as far away as Japan! My oh my, if it can take business away from that wonderful metropolis that is Tokyo, what's stopping this small provincial city in the northern part of the United Kingdom from taking over the world?

Come on guys, do you not think you're deluding yourselves a little here?

Subliving.

This maybe. Cant get much closer because of the offices at the base.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/robinsonworld/HPIM0935.jpg

I took that photo, and I still say Alpha tower is nicer.

it's a bit hard to tell from the photos but they way the building flexes is nice, the supports beams at the base are well kwel too.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/robinsonworld/HPIM0232.jpg

And besides if you take away that concreate lift shaft from CIS it's no taller than Alpha, (and if you're including concreate shafts than the BT tower is taller than both) but Alpha is a lot wider. That's the only way to judge towerbocks (almost put skyscrapers there, then stopped myself, as lets face it they're hardy the Empire State building are they?) is height then, if that's about the same, the width!

Feel the width, baby! Alpha is better!!

Here, here Stephen! Alpha Tower is one of the best examples of 60's/70's high rise architecture in Britain, if not THE best!

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/154AlphaTower_pic2.jpg

A graceful beauty!

Its called marketing. Something that Manchester is very good at and something that Brum seems to be incredibly poor at. Manchester makes itself the best city in the UK outside London. Manchester tells businesses (like the BBC) that Manchester is a good place to do business. Companies like the BBC (convinced by Manchester's marketing) decide that Manchester is as good place to do business and save money and moving there would be more beneficial than keeping departments in London or moving them to another UK city (like Birmingham)

The BBC isn't a company. It is a state-owned public corporation, whose financing is controlled by the UK Government and every decision made about the corportation happens in a political context.

The BBC out of London project is a political one, not a natural business venture. It was conceived as a mechanism to give the BBC leverage in its negotiations over licence fee rates and the its upcoming charter renewal (i.e., when the BBC pleads with the Government to be allowed to exist for another ten years).

The notion of relocating some BBC functions out of London and to Manchester is hardly a vote of confidence in Manchester's super-amazing-super-brilliance, as you Accy, you bizarrely Preston-domiciled Manchester zealot, typically and stupidly assume it to be, but rather has been proposed by the BBC in order for them to strengthen the case they hope to make that their state corporation benefits the nation as a whole. In other words, in their charter renewal bid, they have been making the case that if they continue to receive a good settlement from the Government and uniquely continue to be funded by an involuntary tax from almost every household in the country they are willing to gift some God-forsaken northern outpost with more jobs.

Indicative of the superficiality of the whole idea is the lazy way in which, if this ever relocation occurs (which is unlikely in any big way), Manchester will be gifted it with no competition having been allowed between rival cities and no careful business case made or due dilligence carried about. Manchester was simply automatically chosen because conveniently it is in the horrid deprived north (and therefore it is politically advantageous to be seen to be assisting the area) and already had the largest concentration of BBC facilities in the north of England, these being the result of previous London-made state planning decisions that have nothing to do with business sense or marketing any more than the latest relocation plan does.

"Allow us to continue to tax the nation and we'll help out that horrid Manchester shithole" is the basic message that Mark Thompson communicating to the Government, and if we don't get a big enough settlement we'll scrap the whole inefficient, unpopular idea. This reflects the ignorant attitudes of the London establishment of course, but it is the case that is being made. In truth, it makes much more "business sense" for the corporation to keep focussed around its headquarters in London, where all their large-scale facilities are and most of everyone who they need to interview from one day to the next.

Thompson has already threatened to scrub the whole preposterous notion if the next licence fee settlement isn't large enough. Why, pray tell, young Accy would be BBC be only willing to relocate to Manchester if they are paid more of a ransom to do so, if the move made good business sense and saved money as you weirdly asserted?

Just wait until after Charter Renewal at the end of this year and the Manchester relocation project is taken into a out of the way room and quietly strangled.

I took that photo, and I still say Alpha tower is nicer.


Okey Doke...

Oh is that what it means i assumed that it meant ROI. What a stupid nickname for a city that is the puppet of London


Oh for fucks sake. I've never even heard 'Manchester' called "The Republic". Stop being pendantic. It's hardly common lingo up here I can promise you! Anything to slag us off! London? Whats the capital to do with anything of that?!

Not that easily, eh?

...youv'e already gone and done it for me missy :ohno:

Well, i'm 18, so I probably do rank as a kid in your eye's.


Im 20. So yer ;)

And the refurb isn't doing wonders is it?


Nope. But honestly, it doesn't look like ones started on it yet :lol:

Alpha Tower is an excellent well detailed structure. I also happen to prefer concrete structures over steel structures because of the solidity and expression of their form. The base of the Alpha tower is awesome. However, as a functional building and internal finishing, CIS is better.

Some people don't seem to grasp that the concrete shaft of the CIS is actually the core of the building - an exoskeleton if you will. All of the stairwells, Service risers, lift shafts and plant is housed in this structure to give clear open plan floorplates within the office element, thus maximising the space. I'd be very surprised if Alpha had a greater net useable floorspace than CIS, which apparantly houses 2000 staff.

Alpha Tower is an excellent well detailed structure. I also happen to prefer concrete structures over steel structures because of the solidity and expression of their form. The base of the Alpha tower is awesome. However, as a functional building and internal finishing, CIS is better.

Some people don't seem to grasp that the concrete shaft of the CIS is actually the core of the building - an exoskeleton if you will. All of the stairwells, Service risers, lift shafts and plant is housed in this structure to give clear open plan floorplates within the office element, thus maximising the space. I'd be very surprised if Alpha had a greater net useable floorspace than CIS, which apparantly houses 2000 staff.

I've been in Alpha Tower, & you're right, the floor area is not that big, & the ceilings are quite low too. It is a great looking building for an old lady though!

I've been in Alpha Tower, & you're right, the floor area is not that big, & the ceilings are quite low too. It is a great looking building for an old lady though!

Totally agree. Lovely building and my favorite ever since my first visit to brum (to compete in the national schools indoor athletics champs in the NIA back in 1996 - those were the days!)

Accy - I don't know where you get the idea that Mcr is competing with London. EVERYWHERE in this country is second to London.

"The BBC" is not moving from London to Mcr - a couple of departments are. Many other government departments and agencies are moving out to the regions too.

Only yesterday Sir Michael Lyons warned Birmingham to get out of the mindset of competing with London and to work with London instead. But whilst we have the highly centralised system we do, Birmingham or Manchester will NEVER be seen as an alternative to London. Companies that can't afford London might settle in Mcr or Brum, but the rest of the time it will be the "non-London" office that we get.

Totally agree. Lovely building and my favorite ever since my first visit to brum (to compete in the national schools indoor athletics champs in the NIA back in 1996 - those were the days!)

We have a sports star among us? What were your fortes?

Nope. I'm a beer drinking curry partaking bloke like anyone else but probably less fit. I used to be pretty good at the triple jump when I was at school though and represented Staffs at it.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/robinsonworld/fashion.jpg

(try the link, if you care! http://www.discogs.com/image/R-150-140872-1078355053.jpg It's coming up for me)

And if you squint you can just make out the building in the back?

Has the CIS appeared on the art work of any second division new Romantic single artwork? eh? eh? :poke:

^^ :redx:

...youv'e already gone and done it for me missy :ohno:

Wow. You're really stupid.

Original :|

i know we're not allowed to show any more waterfront panoramas, but this one taken today by The Mersey Orange needs to be seen. :)

http://img487.imageshack.us/img487/5650/liverpool91106xv6.jpg

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Just saying...

It does no harm showing your Best present skyline from one of your best angles -providing you have a 'best angle' to show it from!

http://img487.imageshack.us/img487/5650/liverpool91106xv6.jpg

Off subject ramble alert:

Looking at that picture, why do English Hertage insist on in keeping red brick for the frontage, when it comes to the old buildings there's not much red brick at all, the Albert Dock and the warehouse on the left maybe brick but it's not red, at least not the same shade as the new stuff they've put up.

About the only old stuff that's red brick is the old White Star Liner building and Everton Water tower!

They're a shower of deluded cunts. That's why.

Don't care how many waterfront shots there are, it's still a fantastic shot!! Now that the credit's out the way, time for me to tell the Scousers to fuck off after the footy last night and hope they lose to Wycombe in the QF!

That sandcastle building really has to go. Everytime I see a skyline shot with it in, my feelings for it worsen and my urge to just tear through my computer screen increases.

time for me to tell the Scousers to fuck off after the footy last night

What have you got against Everton? :? If you're referring to the R/S, they only have about 27 actual supporters in the city. The club was set up as a tourist attraction in the 1960's, when Cowboy Bill Shankly parked his circus on Anfield Road. Their 'loyal' fanbase come from places like Dubai, Ireland and Clarky.

:cheers:

Nope. I'm a beer drinking curry partaking bloke like anyone else but probably less fit. I used to be pretty good at the triple jump when I was at school though and represented Staffs at it.

:bow:

What have you got against Everton? :? If you're referring to the R/S, they only have about 27 actual supporters in the city. The club was set up as a tourist attraction in the 1960's, when Cowboy Bill Shankly parked his circus on Anfield Road. Their 'loyal' fanbase come from places like Dubai, Ireland and Clarky.

:cheers:

My all time favourite chant, which the Villa directed at my beloved Blues, involved circuses.

we look alright even on a gloomy day in Brum :)

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q225/downtownmark/bham2003.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q225/downtownmark/bham2002.jpg

Thats wide and dense, no cities in the UK can say that about their city centre. Excluding London of course.

Liverpool
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/7375/liverpoolpanoif1.jpg

Because of the relatively low buildings, the taller ones like the 130metre ones really stand out. In the Birmingham image you'll be hard pressed to find HCT which is just below 130 metres.

note the image above is coorect as of now only the tallest structure in the main cluster is 8 stories away from that height so that image is really a april 07 one

Liverpool
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/7375/liverpoolpanoif1.jpg

That is a great picture of Liverpool, can you get a sharper image of it?

I went to manchester tonight for the first time in ages. I have to admit, it is looking fantastic. Beetham looks huge, far bigger then brum's. But the skyline is definatly too spaced out, and a bit underwehlming on the approch to the city.

Couple of things me and the group i was with thought to be a bit arrogant.
Why is there signs everywhere stating "THIS IS MANCHESTER",
And why do the dj's/news presenters on key 103 say the word 'Manchester' every 20 seconds?? It seems the population of the city is seriously obssessed with the word.

All in all, the place is definatly a massive improvement on the city i visited many times in the 90's. The re-generation is great. But its not quite as impressive as Birmingham, then again we did start our regenation 10years earlier.

In a strange way, im kinda proud to see the place looking good. After all its an english city, its only a good thing that all cities across the country are booming!

P.S
Its a great city! but it ain't:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/djguinness/imm36f.jpg

Isn't it an advertising campaign. This is Manchester is a silly thing to say in Manchester though. People would just go 'err duh what else would it be'

[QUOTE=ROYAL BLUE;10469379]
And why do the dj's/news presenters on key 103 say the word 'Manchester' every 20 seconds

I have noticed that too they were singing "Manchester we love this city" the other day bit sad really.

:lol:

I don't think it's sad to be happy in your environment. People are sick of mancs banging on about their city but they do it because they have never known it so good.

I don't think it's sad to be happy in your environment. People are sick of mancs banging on about their city but they do it because they have never known it so good.

I know what you mean Jerv, bask in the limelight while you can, I say!

Yes you filthy mancs. Embrace your polished turd!











:jk:

I have noticed that too they were singing "Manchester we love this city" the other day bit sad really.

Look whos talking... :|
Radio City (and Magic 1548) bang on about Liverpool all the time. Even the hourly jingle has the word Liverpool in it about 9 times! Not to mention the Li-Li-Li-Li-Liverpool spectacular at the end... The World in One City? Welcome to the 'Capital'?

Pfffffffffffffffffft :tongue:

I don't listen to commercial radio for those very reasons.

Oh, and the shit songs and even worse adverts.

:lol:

I went to manchester tonight for the first time in ages. I have to admit, it is looking fantastic. Beetham looks huge, far bigger then brum's. But the skyline is definatly too spaced out, and a bit underwehlming on the approch to the city.

Couple of things me and the group i was with thought to be a bit arrogant.
Why is there signs everywhere stating "THIS IS MANCHESTER",
And why do the dj's/news presenters on key 103 say the word 'Manchester' every 20 seconds?? It seems the population of the city is seriously obssessed with the word.

All in all, the place is definatly a massive improvement on the city i visited many times in the 90's. The re-generation is great. But its not quite as impressive as Birmingham, then again we did start our regenation 10years earlier.

In a strange way, im kinda proud to see the place looking good. After all its an english city, its only a good thing that all cities across the country are booming!

P.S
Its a great city! but it ain't:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/djguinness/imm36f.jpg

There is only one sign I know of that says 'This is Manchester' its on the roundabout at the Hulme, Salford, Manc city centre boundery.The rest of the signs on the entrances of the city just say 'City of Manchester'

I don't listen to commercial radio for those very reasons.

Oh, and the shit songs and even worse adverts.

:lol:

BRMB is the pits. After every single song, they inform you you are listening to "Birmingham's BRMB".

I still wonder what BRMB stands for. BRMB smells anyway! I'm a Galaxy fan really and the only time they say Birmingham is when they say "We're performing at The Works today in Birminum!" And thats hardly a "durr" moment.

But before we descend into a match over which has the most cocky and overconfident and arrogant radio stations (*COUGH* Manchester *COUGH* (had that cold for a while)), I think I should make the following statement:











































No other UK city (excluding of course) comes close to even being Birmingham's skyline! :yes:

Let the games begin!

Big Red Midlands Bus of course.

I *think* it stands for British Radio Midland Broadcasting, but I'm not so certain...

I think its big red mouldy bellends, but I'm not so certain.











:lol: :banned: :ohno:

I *think* it stands for British Radio Midland Broadcasting, but I'm not so certain...

Thats what i was told, many, many moons ago.

On key 103 - the news reader said:
This is the news in Manchester (wait for it) Live from Manchester!
We just found it funny.

There were signs every where, and stupid billboards in the shape of the letter M which just looked tacky. Oh and the signs still say commenwelth games 2002. erm time to remove them maybe??

I'm glad you had a good time watching sweaty beasts donning spandex, grapple each other inside an inclosed ring. Sounds a rite lawf...

Forget all that Manc propaganda. You were impressed though ey? ey? were werent ya? ;)

I'm glad you had a good time watching sweaty beasts donning spandex, grapple each other inside an inclosed ring. Sounds a rite lawf...

Forget all that Manc propaganda. You were impressed though ey? ey? were werent ya? ;)

I was yeah! Read my post futher up the page.

Just for the record i aint a fan of WWE, my mate had a spare ticket.

Thats what i was told, many, many moons ago.

On key 103 - the news reader said:
This is the news in Manchester (wait for it) Live from Manchester!
We just found it funny.

There were signs every where, and stupid billboards in the shape of the letter M which just looked tacky. Oh and the signs still say commenwelth games 2002. erm time to remove them maybe??

Even BBC radio are at it with this jingle the begining of their news bulletins....(dramatic music) This is Manchester...BBC radio MANCHESTER you'll love where were coming from........ I can understand it from the likes of 'dumbing down' commercial radio but not local BBC radio.

XFM is the only Mancunian radio station worth listening to in my opinion.
And it's still a bit shit!

Try 96.2 The Revolution (www.revolutiononline.co.uk), based in Oldham, you can pick it up all over Gtr Manchester!

Home to Mani (Stone Roses/Primal Scream), Mike Joyce (The Smiths), Martin Coogan (Mock Turtles & Brother of Steve!), Brendan Coogan (Martin & Steve's Bro!), Cottee (Proud Mary/South Night Club), Phil Beckett (Hacienda DJ/South Night Club), Jeff Hordley (AKA Cain Dingle [Emmerdale]/South Night Club)

And i work there too!

Real Music, Real people, it's what XFM wish it could be!

(BTW Clint Boon (Inspiral Carpets), jumped ship to XFM from the Rev and lost his freedom!!)

Oh yeah, back to skylines, you get a great view of Manc up in Chadderton nearby!

Yeah, my friend in Eccles has told me about 96.2 The Revolution.
I'll try and remember to find it while i'm having a sing-along in the shower!

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ yawn!

XFM is ok, but seems to be the same songs on over and over again (Chasing Cars, owt by Kasabian.)

Perhaps they just play their newly released CD over and over.

Wasn't this meant to be the 'Best Present Skyline thread'? And you guys are comparing radio stations.

Well then. I think Hallam FM's quite good if your in Sheffield. Otherwise you could listen to Galaxy, if you like RnB 'n' that, and Radio Sheffield's just a bit of a joke really.

Now Skylines?

Croydon as posted in the manc forum

http://www.dcresource.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5471&stc=1&d=1127827140

Thanks Jerv :)

^^Wow. Looking good.

Those curvy pylon things remind me of Aston University :). Cheers Jerv.

Wow, Croydon's looking good!

All this talk about local radio stations reminds me of a thread I started many moons ago when I went on a Martin G style rant about how useless they were :)
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=288443&highlight=local+radio

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Can i just say that the skyline from Everton brow is in my opinion just as impressive as the waterfront skyline, pisses me off this waterfront crap

You cannot deny however that Liverpool's skyline is formed to look good from the water, hence the shitty back of Beetham or the lack of clocks at the rear tower on the Liver Building.

Mong.

The clocks are put where they are most visible. One on the rear tower overlooking the city, and the rest providing time for everyone else.

There a 3 on the Waterside tower, I was pretty sure there was one on the back one, despite working in a building overlooking it for 6 months I wasn't quite sure, but now you confirmed it, Bunnyman is right, Accura is inaccura.

But about the back of Beetham (1), err...

Mong.

The clocks are put where they are most visible. One on the rear tower overlooking the city, and the rest providing time for everyone else.

Not very useful for people driving up and down the Strand! Face it, the back was a half-hearted effort compared to the front!

They're perfect for people driving up and down the Strand you muppet. If they were on the rear tower, you could only see them from far away due to the gradient. With the clocks being on the river side, the clocks can be seen from much closer to the RLB. Once you're underneath it, the clocks can't be seen at all.

Besides, I don't know what chicken wagon you get carted around in, but most modern vehicles have clocks on the inside as well. :)

I know for a fact that your car doesnt have a clock in it... and no, I'm not in the mood for a constructive argument :D

I'll take a photo of the clock in my car for you tomorrow Thomas, you gimp. :cheers:

I have to say, even I can back that one up. The clocks are in the perfect place for The Strand.

I know it's not a "skyline" per se, but I love the view of Manchester from Werneth Low. The view is nothing short of spectacular.

Croydon as posted in the manc forum

http://www.dcresource.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5471&stc=1&d=1127827140

thats a great shot & to be honest one of the only few that iv'e been impressed by the Manc skyline, In this picture is a clear difference of Manchester & Bristol, Bristol still have goal nets in the goal posts but up our ways more north you never get goal nets left in the posts no chance?

How tired is pretending to mistake one skyline for another? VERY IMO!

Croyden is looking good though...

Yeah, since when has Croydon been in Manchester.

I think DTM just naturally assumed Manchester after quickly noticing "Manc forum" and not seeing Croydon. :)

thats a great shot & to be honest one of the only few that iv'e been impressed by the Manc skyline, In this picture is a clear difference of Manchester & Bristol, Bristol still have goal nets in the goal posts but up our ways more north you never get goal nets left in the posts no chance?


Who's side is this guy on?!

Yea i really thought that pic was Manchester Erebus, who's side am i on? thats an easy answer the side of truth, I think its stupid to deceive oneself, I applaud the good things in brum and the things im dissapointed about i comment about too, It doesnt hurt me to say up there is great or down there & it please's me if i can boast of my hometown too of course. I like to take it all the best things from any city including my own, that way i enjoy life more & get more out of it, I'd be misisng out if i only allowed myself to enjoy here alone, But my heart is in Japan because i lived there before & it was often magical feels like a second home now and the people were really warm & friendly & also my other half is Japanese so there you go...enough of my babbling on.

here's a chance to boast of my brum the best city skyline by far at the moment :nocrook:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q225/downtownmark/Kenilworthcastle022.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q225/downtownmark/Kenilworthcastle021.jpg

Downtown Los angelas? No downtown Birmingham baby
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q225/downtownmark/Kenilworthcastle023.jpg

Brum is the most dense i call, you can count in the backdrop enough talls & other buildings from this shot
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q225/downtownmark/Kenilworthcastle027.jpg
Boththese towers are cool too theolder one has a retro look too.
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q225/downtownmark/Kenilworthcastle032.jpg

Yea i really thought that pic was Manchester Erebus, who's side am i on? thats an easy answer the side of truth, I think its stupid to deceive oneself, I applaud the good things in brum and the things im dissapointed about i comment about too, It doesnt hurt me to say up there is great or down there & it please's me if i can boast of my hometown too of course. I like to take it all the best things from any city including my own, that way i enjoy life more & get more out of it, I'd be misisng out if i only allowed myself to enjoy here alone, But my heart is in Japan because i lived there before & it was often magical feels like a second home now and the people were really warm & friendly & also my other half is Japanese so there you go...enough of my babbling on.

here's a chance to boast of my brum the best city skyline by far at the moment :nocrook:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q225/downtownmark/Kenilworthcastle022.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q225/downtownmark/Kenilworthcastle021.jpg

Downtown Los angelas? No downtown Birmingham baby
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q225/downtownmark/Kenilworthcastle023.jpg

Brum is the most dense i call, you can count in the backdrop enough talls & other buildings from this shot
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q225/downtownmark/Kenilworthcastle027.jpg
Boththese towers are cool too theolder one has a retro look too.
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q225/downtownmark/Kenilworthcastle032.jpg

Nice pictures there! But why are they called Kenilworth Castle :)?

The Digbeth one is cool. It is amazing to think that so much of what you see in the foreground and midground (if that is a word) will be demolished. You can just see the Rotundas new windows peeping through too.

But I dont think you should have got the Blues football ground in there :no:

damn how can you see the words Kenilworth castle???? thats spooked me out , I cant see that from here? please tell ;) I went Kenilworth castle the day before and just didnt chnage the name of the pics going into my computer ooops!

Oh & the BCFC bit was on purpose :) that day wolves scored a late one and it all went off outside, Police everyhwere it was a real buzz, The local derbys are making a buzz in the city, and because of there trouble i got a shot with the Heli so come on Zulu army lol!

But anyway back on topic Brum kills it for the best current skyline? Is that why its all gone quiet in here? thats also spooky.

When I quoted them, the picture's address had Kenilworth Castle in the name :). Dont worry, I'm no psychic.

But that certainly is a new angle of the skyline.

cool great im glad to bring something to the forum especially for our own birmingham thread, my pictures definalty do more than my babbling:lol:
But look Erebus is this a sign of victory nobody form another city has argued the present skyline since these shots? this silence is almost a call for a Victory cry im sure? :) am i deluding myself? :P

Great shots DTM! Liverpool is rightly up there in the polls but should be 2nd - thank the Mancs who in their twistedness vote for LPL lol!!!

Those bitter bastards hate us more than they hate you! After all, there's more to hate...

Those bitter bastards hate us more than they hate you! After all, there's more to hate...


Dont tar everyone with the same brush Bunnyboiler :)

I forgot to add the :lol: smilie, Highriser. Apologies, my dear Sir.

Those bitter bastards hate us more than they hate you! After all, there's more to hate...

What do you mean? Birmingham's skyline is 2 miles long...

I forgot to add the :lol: smilie, Highriser. Apologies, my dear Sir.

I'll forgive you young sir ,, this bitter bastard does have a sense of humour:lol:

I dont like all this Manchester vs Liverpool stuff because near enough every manc i've met was nice and i got on with them, doesnt matter if your black or white or scouse or manc to me

I dont like all this Manchester vs Liverpool stuff because near enough every manc i've met was nice and i got on with them, doesnt matter if your black or white or scouse or manc to me

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Brums, you have to reassure yourself by presuming that any Manc who voted for Liverpool did so out of spite for Birmingham? I mean, what are we voting on here, phallic skylines or quality? I certainly didn't vote Liverpool rather than Birmingham in some twisted moment of Midlands hatred, but because I have an opinion.

Since when has the Manc Stereotype you lot love to throw around seen us love Scouseland more than Brumnation anyway? Puhlease! :D

The brummies musnt have heard about the injection babies born in Manchester get to hate Liverpool, and vice versa.. :D

30 miles apart doesnt see a big change of people, only problem is mancunians have that daft accent. :|

What happens to people from Warrington? :?

They marry their sisters.

:rofl:

Im born and bred manc and i love scousers cos they are my nxt door neigbours. No, realy im from up north and we are the friendliest ppl in th UK. Why would we dislike each other. I hate it when ppl use the manc vs liverpool stereotypical hatred thingy.

"30 miles apart doesnt see a big change of people, only problem is mancunians have that daft accent."

You mean most Mancunians have a BBC accent and don't sound like they're talking like they have throatfull of phlegm and a mouthfull of chip butty? :cool:
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^^You sound like a cunt.

Not that this is an accent thread, plus I was joking, but I was reffering to the janice from corronation street accent, using 'eh' rather than 'y' (nobodeh (nobody)), 'oh' replacing 'er' (manchestoh(manchester)) etc. You dont hear it much on the bbc, you usually hear a very watered down version - unless corrie has been movied from ITV? :D

But erm, yeh - so best skyline eh? sounds like a better topic..

Well the NatWest Tower in Brum is coming down... :cry:

Well the NatWest Tower in Brum is coming down... :cry:

Interesting segway, Erebus!!!!

Not that this is an accent thread, plus I was joking, but I was reffering to the janice from corronation street accent, using 'eh' rather than 'y' (nobodeh (nobody)), 'oh' replacing 'er' (manchestoh(manchester)) etc. You dont hear it much on the bbc, you usually hear a very watered down version - unless corrie has been movied from ITV? :D

But erm, yeh - so best skyline eh? sounds like a better topic..

That's an invented accent. Manchester is the new Liverpool, populated it seems by people who love being patronized by the London media, even going so far as to change their accents into something the London media view of what a Manchester accent should be. The Scousers did it all through the 80's before getting their old accent back and Mancunians are doing it now.

Listen to Peter Hook talk. That's what a Manchester accent sounded like before the media took over.

Isn't the typical Mancunian accent demonstrated by Stuart McConey of Radio 2? Which really, if he pronounced his own name in a Mancunian accent, wouldn't it be "McCorrney"??

I wouldn't know. I don't listen to radio.

I just hate what the Manchester accent is turning into, the north's very own version of estuary English and just as shit.

Don't get too worried about it, remember this Isaac, I'm originally from Birmingham, and the media alsways uses the worst possible Birmingham accent they possibly can .... which usually sounds more like a Dudley accent rather than a Birmingham accent.

Plus, in TV adverts when pigs are given human voice overs, 9 times out of ten it is a Brummie accent they use!!

That all stems from "Pipkins"

http://www.jedisparadise.co.uk/childrenstv/Pipkins/Pipkins_1976/Pipkins15.jpg

http://www.jedisparadise.co.uk/childrenstv/Pipkins/Pipkins_1976/Pipkins15.jpg

"..... oim a pig an oim 'ungry"!!

Did Hartley the Hare have a Brummie accent also? Pipkins was a Brum production weren't it?

Yes, it was made in Birmingham .... we seem to be good at kids TV, Rosie & Jim, Teletubbies, Brum, etc, all made here ...... our versions of Coronation Street!!! Don't think Hartley had a Birmingham accent. (Blimey, you must all be as old as me to remember the Pipkins!!!!!!! It's time ........ tick, tick, tick, ... to go!)

Fiddlesticks! Well I was rather young. One of my pre-school favourites. The gritty inner-city locations seems rather exotic to a boy from Formby - why are those boys brown, mummy?

Still, you can't be young and remember Pipkins nowadays.