Hey everyone!!!

I would want to post some pictures of Guadalajara's infraestructure, like avenues, streets, boulevards and freeways to keep on topic.

Guadalajara is the second largest city of Mexico, it has 6 million people in the metropolitan area, so it is a really big city. The city has some particular facts:
-It is the most Mexican city of Mexico, home to some Mexican traditions such as Mariachi and Tequila.
-It has the greatest community of retired Americans outside the USA.
-It has some of the most beautiful boulevards and streets in Mexico, full of trees.

Sorry for the spam, but they're very good.


Vallarta Avenue

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Mariano Otero Avenue

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Nodo Vial Cubos

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Glorieta Minerva

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Galerías

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Light train

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It looks really nice. how is it the most Mexican?

Nice....but it looks more North American than Mexican. This shot in particular could be anywhere in Southern California:

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Nice....but it looks more North American than Mexican. This shot in particular could be anywhere in Southern California:


I disagree, the pavement, the paint used and the large amounts of yellow dividers can make the location very obvious.

^^ I agree.

The infastructure looks great! Nice and clean. Amazing.

-koolkid

The avenues look great and very green!
If you think is not the most Mexican city, just look at its historic downtown.

But there aren't any pictures of the historic core, so how would we see that?

ive always looked at mexico as a 3rd world country, but after seeing these photos it looks so clean,green, and beautiful

ive always looked at mexico as a 3rd world country, but after seeing these photos it looks so clean,green, and beautiful

Have you ever been to Mexico besides TJ?

ive always looked at mexico as a 3rd world country, but after seeing these photos it looks so clean,green, and beautiful

Third world?

I don't consider Mexico to be third world. True, many parts are poor, but there are also a lot of middle class/rich people there and many of the towns and cities are nice (good mix of old/preserved and modern). Many of the pictures I've seen on here show that many parts of Mexico are as developed as anywhere else. I also read somewhere that the city of Monterrey in Mexico has one of the highest GDP's in Latin America.

Well, I'm mexican and I understand that you think Mexico is very poor and not develop. Cause there are lots of prejudice about Mexico.
Certanly is the not richest or best country of the world, but is a country that is under development. And it has a lot to offer and there are some nice develop areas in Mexico.

Guadalajara doesn't have 6 million people on its greater area. I think it has something like 4 or 4.1 million.

Guadalajara looks great in those pictures. I agree, it's very clean and green. I hope to visit Mexico soon.

Guadalaja is considered as the most mexican city cuz is the cradle of Mariachi, Tequila and mexican traditional music.

Third world?

I don't consider Mexico to be third world. True, many parts are poor, but there are also a lot of middle class/rich people there and many of the towns and cities are nice (good mix of old/preserved and modern). Many of the pictures I've seen on here show that many parts of Mexico are as developed as anywhere else. I also read somewhere that the city of Monterrey in Mexico has one of the highest GDP's in Latin America.

It doesnt matter what you consider, statistically, mexico is 3rd world. Yes, there are 1st world parts, but parts dont make an entire country.

Is Mexico one of the most developed 3rd world countries? Yes, but that doesnt change the clasification.

And no, Ive never been to Tijuana. But Ive been to DF, Cuernavaca, Acapulco, Cancun and Puebla. Im not talking by experience, Im talking based on fact.

WANCH have you ever gone to mexico?

What the hell? Those are the cleanest looking streets I've ever seen.

yay! :P

We need to get pictures of the car tunnels and the subway in here ;)

Nice pics... Mexico is beautiful and have great potencial!


Isn't that a Seat Cordoba? I didn't know they exported to North America - cool :)
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^^ Yea Seat cars are popular in Mexico

People, people...stop with all the stereotypes and ignorance you want facts then here it is straight from the United Nations. The UN classifies its members under High Human Development, Medium Human Development, and Low Human Development. In that case it also states that a third world country falls under Low Human Development, a first world country under High Human Develpment and the nations between third and first would be Medium Human Devlopment.
Here is a map of the low, medium, and high developing nations. Gray is unavailable, red is low, yellow is medium and green is high.
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Also used to determine the type of nation is life expentacy, knowledge, and descent living.
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0.950 and higher
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lower than 0.300
N/A Sorry for no colors indicating which one is which, but green is high and dark red is low. The point is that the UN classifes its member, Mexico under High Human Development, it is green color, and a 0.814 (Which is High)

My source can be found from a report of last year by the United Nations Develpment Programme Right Here (http://hdr.undp.org/)
Now can we have more photos of Mexico please. And yes that is Mexico you are seeing. :runaway:

You are right Chicago Fan Mexico is very underrated in this forum. Almost every people think Mexico is like Hollywood movies show it.

Much of Mexico is completely developed and middle class. I was there 3 years ago and I loved it.....great country.

This pic is to show the development of Guadalajara in recent years.

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Guadalajara looks great!

Excellent.

grat city

beautiful city

I was in GDL a couple of years ago and I wasn't impressed with their development. I personally do not like to use "third world" as a term for developement but it's pretty much the same around Mx. The city lacks density and most buildings are low rise. Nice, clean, well planned areas are very few and limited to small clusters of well-to-do-families. The vast majority of the city is just another urban jungle. I rather think of GDL as a nice colonial town with nicely preserved old buildings and narrow cobble-stone streets. That's what I think of GDL !!!

Well, your opinion is very respectful, but in this last year the city's tallest have change a couple of times and more and more highrises are announce for the city. The best ones are twin towers of 155 mts, one tower of 170 mts, the Guggenheim Museun
180 meters, an office tower of 60 floors and 336 meter Torrena Entertainment Tower.
So I think is changing little by little.
Some renders.
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The Guggenheim.
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Torrena
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Wow the second rendering from the top is really cool with the twin towers. Looks like residential??

Right they are residential.

Have to go there, go Mexico!

/Mats

hey do you know which other cities are beautiful and with clean streets Merida Cancuin and the southern part of mexico i love part of acapulco and mexico city

I've been to Guadalajara and I really liked it, espically the historic old town, like the cathedral, and palace where the declaration of independence from Spain was signed. It has that wonderful murial on the ceiling of the stairwell about the revolution.

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beautiful pic's!!!
did you take them??
that's my hometown, but i live in the u.s...
thanks! for the memories:)

Very clean city, much cleaner than Mexico City.

Some pics. The city is full of trees.

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Amazing pics, the streets are very clean and full of trees!

i love its streets and avenues

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Some pics. The city is full of trees.

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loved

More pictures of Guadalajara




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Some small streets in the historic downtown


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Well, its really funny seeing what you think of México, specially Guadalajara is so beautiful, it has a lot of malls and great things to do.
The most beautiful girls are from here, so if you wan´t to have some real fun and find some nice chiks come to Guadalajara.
Sorry for the English its just that I don´t know a lot of English. You can visit the thread of Guadalajara if you want to see some great photos of the historic downtown.

Well, its really funny seeing what you think of México, specially Guadalajara is so beautiful, it has a lot of malls and great things to do.
The most beautiful girls are from here, so if you wan´t to have some real fun and find some nice chiks come to Guadalajara.
Sorry for the English its just that I don´t know a lot of English. You can visit the thread of Guadalajara if you want to see some great photos of the historic downtown.

Mexicans and their obcession with malls! Honestly, Mexico has so much better things to offer tourists than malls...malls that we can find in the U.S. of American and European brands that we can find here or that Europeans can find in Europe, and probably for less, since American clothes are not imported in the U.S. and European clothes aren't imported in Europe.

And are you selling your Guadalajara girls? It almost sounds like that. Is their a redlight district with some displayed inside windows?

BTW, your English is very good, so don't worry about that. :)

well, definately there was a mistake in the title of this thread...

Of course Guadalajara has great historic arquitecture, and this city it´s the home of Tequila and Mariachi, but the photos in this thread are mostly from the modern or new parts of the city...it´s not showing historic arquitecture...

that´s why the title it´s confusing.

^^This forum isnt about architecture. Its about infastructure. Nice shots, though, the infastructure looks great.

Mexico Gdl, your english suck...
:jk:

Guadalajara is my favorite city, because of its downtown and modern zones (Puerta de Hierro)

That's the part Hollywood movies don't want to show you.

I have to go and ride my horse! Bye! :horse:

^^This forum isnt about architecture. Its about infastructure. Nice shots, though, the infastructure looks great.

Mexico Gdl, your english suck...
:jk:

JAJAJAJAJA GRACIAS POR TU APOYO KOOLKID, SEGURAMENTE TU INGLES ES PERFECTO.
EN CUANTO A LO OTRO JAMAS MI INTENCIÓN FUE VENDER A LAS MEXICANAS.

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[QUOTE=Alejandro_MEX;10186105]Some pics. The city is full of trees.

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Es hermosa la ciudad, felicidades por las fotografías

This photos are very nice they show the great infraestructure in Guadalajara.

Oh my Godness, what a coincidence!!!!!. Somebody took me a picture driving my Lamborghini. jajajaja

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great pictures !!

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Nice pic. Guadalajara is developing really fast!

well here are more pictures of the streets and avenues I found, hope you like them


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Nice pics the street look very neat and tidy

I had the privilege of visitin Guadalajara during the solar eclipse. I went there because Hawaii was sold out and Guad seemed a cheap alternative. I was very impressed by what a beautiful and charming city it is. The photos on this thread really don't do it justice. The most beautiful parts are the central core and the craftman village of Tlaquepaque. (I hope I came close to spelling that right.) Guad also has the most extensive Mexican market I have ever seen, much bigger than the ones in Mexico city. Guad is definitely worth a visit.

By the way, we had a great view of the eclipse, the folks who went to Hawaii had cloud cover and most of them missed it. And they certainly didn't have the folklorico musicians playing while the sun disappeared behind the moon.

I'm glad you like our city of Guadalajara and speciallly Tlaquepaque.

Peugeot 206 is popular in Mexico ?
Renault Megane
and Renault Clio symbol too ?

I see a lot of them in those pics

Mexico the only country in North America with french cars

^^Mexico gets European cars, back when i lived in texas i saw quite a few Citroens and Renaults with mexico plates.

I had the privilege of visitin Guadalajara during the solar eclipse. I went there because Hawaii was sold out and Guad seemed a cheap alternative. I was very impressed by what a beautiful and charming city it is. The photos on this thread really don't do it justice. The most beautiful parts are the central core and the craftman village of Tlaquepaque. (I hope I came close to spelling that right.) Guad also has the most extensive Mexican market I have ever seen, much bigger than the ones in Mexico city. Guad is definitely worth a visit.

By the way, we had a great view of the eclipse, the folks who went to Hawaii had cloud cover and most of them missed it. And they certainly didn't have the folklorico musicians playing while the sun disappeared behind the moon.


:cheers: thanks for your comments, yeah in Tlaquepaque there are many interesting things, like blown glass.

Peugeot 206 is popular in Mexico ?
Renault Megane
and Renault Clio symbol too ?

I see a lot of them in those pics

Mexico the only country in North America with french cars


yes, they´re quite popular.

Peugeot 206 is popular in Mexico ?
Renault Megane
and Renault Clio symbol too ?

I see a lot of them in those pics

Mexico the only country in North America with french cars


I like the Peugeto 306

:cheers: thanks for your comments, yeah in Tlaquepaque there are many interesting things, like blown glass.

Actually in Mexico Citroen is not avalaible. Renault and Peugeot are very popular.

Actually in Mexico Citroen is not avalaible. Renault and Peugeot are very popular.


There are no citroens ??? mmm i didn´t knew that

:applause: :okay:

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ok next !!!

and yes... there are many Renaults in Mexico

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nice pics vincent Guadalajara streets are pretty nice!

Nice pics, but I think you should put more photos about the different proyects in Guadalajara. Like Torrena, Andares or gugggenheim. :banana:

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I love those avenues with a line of trees on both sides.
They really valorize the streets.

Do you have any pics of the lightrail network or commuter trains?

pongan fotos de varios de los mejores proyectos para k aki nuestros amigos vean k GDL tmb tiene muchos proyectos muy grandes !

esque este thread no es para poner proyectos de edificios...

es de "INFRAESTRUCTURA DE TRANSPORTE" ... osea calles, avenidas ,etc, etc

Guadalajara is my favourite city on Earth. I lived there for a year. There's a huge contrast between old and new there.

Guadalajara´s rail system from UrbanRail.net :

http://www.urbanrail.net/am/guad/guadalajara-map.gif

I´m pretty sure there´s expansion planned or UC but don´t take my word for it

Some photos of Guadalajara´s Avenues and Streets



Avenida Lopez Mateos, por ahi pasa un tunel vehicular

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El Pre-Tren

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Avenida Mexico, a la altura del Iceland

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Avenida Mexico

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Justo Sierra... es una de las calles paralelas a Avenida Vallarta.

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Avenida Vallarta

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Avenida Enrique Diaz de Leon

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Avenida Chapultepec

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Vallarta

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Guadalajara seems to be a beautiful city..

I love Guadalajara...and those streets full of trees..


cheers.

beautiful city

Very nice pictures. Thanks for share. I been in Guadalajara about ten years ago. Looks very prosperous and I find a lot of similarities with Guatemala City. The doble tree lines, the buildings ,the green of the trees, the fountains, and a similar population. Looks like twins. Congratulations.

thank you for your comments !

jajaj que risa Vega, a nadie le interesa este thread, y lo tienes que revivir con comentarios, como que excelente thread....jajaja QUE PATETICO ERES.

:| Hasta aca vino el envidioso y ardido, pobre wey

Bueno de todos modos yo no hize este thread pero al menos tiene mas de 5,500 visitas eso es lo bueno :)

Why are they using bikes in the streets of the city. Is there a special day for the use of the bike?
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I´ll put more photos

Ok and now some small and narrow streets at the city


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I'm not sure of Guadajarara being the most Mexican City in Mexico. No doubt is very clean and well keep but I'm leaning towards Mexico City as the ultimate representation of what Mexico is... My two cents*

I'm not sure of Guadajarara being the most Mexican City in Mexico. No doubt is very clean and well keep but I'm leaning towards Mexico City as the ultimate representation of what Mexico is... My two cents*

I'd disagree, much in the same way that I'd disagree that New York City is the most American city of the US. The DF's size and megacity status overwhelms many of the cultural aspects unique to Mexico which are preserved in Guadalajara. Mexico isn't that dirty as a nation, and most towns are as clean and well-kept as Guadalajara.

Well, Guadalajara is called one of the most mexican cities because its the home of Tequila, Mariachi and other things like that.

in this thread, all the photos are not from historic places... that´s why it doesn´t look so Mexican.

but here are some photos of colonial architecture of the city


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I'd disagree, much in the same way that I'd disagree that New York City is the most American city of the US. The DF's size and megacity status overwhelms many of the cultural aspects unique to Mexico which are preserved in Guadalajara. Mexico isn't that dirty as a nation, and most towns are as clean and well-kept as Guadalajara.


Point taken: Unfortunately I continue to disagree for the simple fact that I've been to Guadalajara and Mexico City. Guadalajara, don't get me wrong it's nice and all but there's no "Wow" factor there. Mexico City, the minute you exit the airport you see the hussle of the city. Street vendors world reknown monuments everywhere and the Wow factor...

Might not be as clean as Guadalajara but it offers other alternatives that keep you intrigue.

Well, Guadalajara is called one of the most mexican cities because its the home of Tequila, Mariachi and other things like that.

in this thread, all the photos are not from historic places... that´s why it doesn´t look so Mexican.

but here are some photos of colonial architecture of the city


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Excellent Pix... but honestly you find those exact pix in every city and town across Mexico.

Still not convinced*

Pistolero dude, great pics and all but try keeping it about infrastructure or else im pretty sure this thread will get closed.

Well I didn´t create this thread, so if they close it I don´t mind

Point taken: Unfortunately I continue to disagree for the simple fact that I've been to Guadalajara and Mexico City. Guadalajara, don't get me wrong it's nice and all but there's no "Wow" factor there. Mexico City, the minute you exit the airport you see the hussle of the city. Street vendors world reknown monuments everywhere and the Wow factor...

Might not be as clean as Guadalajara but it offers other alternatives that keep you intrigue.

Isn't it funny that I disagree with you for the same reason? :) I'd say a lot of that wow factor is simply there being 25 million in one place, moreso than the monuments and all.

Well, Guadalajara is called one of the most mexican cities because its the home of Tequila, Mariachi and other things like that.

in this thread, all the photos are not from historic places... that´s why it doesn´t look so Mexican.

but here are some photos of colonial architecture of the city


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This pic show a very close simility with old town from spanish cities

Well, Mexico in every city and town has culture and beautiful colonial arquitecture, you can see that the very old traditions are still conserved.
In the U.S, they may have the best infrastructure in the world but the only things you can see in a city landscape is: WAL-MART, Mc´Donalds, Burger King, and that´s not culture. You don´t have our kindness and our culture.

Well, Mexico in every city and town has culture and beautiful colonial arquitecture, you can see that the very old traditions are still conserved.
In the U.S, they may have the best infrastructure in the world but the only things you can see in a city landscape is: WAL-MART, Mc´Donalds, Burger King, and that´s not culture. You don´t have our kindness and our culture.

Well, you have to consider how new most settlements in the United States are. Many towns back east still have a colonial square that demonstrates old architecture, just in an English style as opposed to Spanish. Since Protestant churches tended to be austere and modest, there are no great cathedrals until the mid 1800s when the new immigration brought many more Catholics.

Then you get to the middle of the country, most of which was not settled until about 150 years ago, and usually consisted of temporary wood buildings at the time. Most permanent structures were not built until the early 1900s, and many of those still exist today.

Beautiful pictures! Mexico is seriously underrated. I think many Americans hold biased opinions of Mexico because most illegal Mexican immigrants are from poorer backgrounds, and reside in poorer areas in American cities. Middle-class Mexicans visit the United States legally, and many in fact do.

Beautiful pictures! Mexico is seriously underrated. I think many Americans hold biased opinions of Mexico because most illegal Mexican immigrants are from poorer backgrounds, and reside in poorer areas in American cities. Middle-class Mexicans visit the United States legally, and many in fact do.

I agree ,many ¨Americans¨ do hold biased and dogmatic opinions of Mexico,and is only human since they judge us by taking in to fact the Illegal immigrants wich are poor and not educated and also Hollywood contributes greatly to this mith,i can only recall very ofensive movies in my opinion like DELTA FARCE,or Once upon a time in Mexico wich shows a country wich only exist in the minds of ignorant people.

They should maybe check out the facts about Mexico and not miths.

Well, you have to consider how new most settlements in the United States are. Many towns back east still have a colonial square that demonstrates old architecture, just in an English style as opposed to Spanish. Since Protestant churches tended to be austere and modest, there are no great cathedrals until the mid 1800s when the new immigration brought many more Catholics.

Then you get to the middle of the country, most of which was not settled until about 150 years ago, and usually consisted of temporary wood buildings at the time. Most permanent structures were not built until the early 1900s, and many of those still exist today.

Well, depending on the part of USA, because many States (Texas,California, Arizona,New Mexico,Florida,Nevada,....) belonged to Spain and were strongly catholic

I will bring you more photos in a few days, it´s just that i´m injured and I can hardly write.

Good God what happened to you ? Why are you injured? Hope your are well.

Good God what happened to you ? Why are you injured? Hope your are well.


yes i´m fine thanks, just had a surgery in the left hand, but the right hand is much better right now.

ok i´ll put more photos in a few minutes

next page ¡¡

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ive always looked at mexico as a 3rd world country, but after seeing these photos it looks so clean,green, and beautiful

Mexico's big cities are very developed... sure there're places that look like 3rd world but you also have the upscale part of Mexico.

ive always looked at mexico as a 3rd world country, but after seeing these photos it looks so clean,green, and beautiful

Same here. The only two cities I've been to in Mexico are Matamoros and Nuevo Laredo. I felt very unsafe while visiting those cities. I'd like to see the better part of Mexico for myself sometime.

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well... what to say... very nice pictures of centre... but i can't help me... i'm curious... does guadalajara have ghettos? where are the poor people live, could someone photograph that point of city... i'm not convinced that there ain't any... :)

well... what to say... very nice pictures of centre... but i can't help me... i'm curious... does guadalajara have ghettos? where are the poor people live, could someone photograph that point of city... i'm not convinced that there ain't any... :)


well of course there are "ghettos" or poor zones at the "outskirts" (I don´t know if that word is correct) like in any other city ...

We never said there weren´t any

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ive always looked at mexico as a 3rd world country, but after seeing these photos it looks so clean,green, and beautiful


Well, this is thanks in part to Hollywood. There are thousands of movies taking place in the Fifth Avenue and the Mexican slums, and never of Masaryk Avenue (in Mexico City) and the slums in New Orleans. They tend to show the best parts of the U.S., but you have never seen a beautiful Mexican place (not even a beach) in a Hollywood blockbuster.

If Hollywood were in Guadalajara, a movie like this could be done.

A rich Mexican family...
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... living the "Mexican Dream" in the modern Guadalajara...
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...One of the young members of their family went to the US looking for fun, and he was kidnapped while walking in a typical American neighborgood in Washington D.C...
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...by a typical American.
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THIS IS WHAT I FEEL WHEN I WATCH MOVIES LIKE MAN ON FIRE.

The real problem in Mexico is the distribution of wealth. We can find here places poorer than Central Africa and the richest people on earth (ask Carlos Slim).

Alejandro MEX don´t exaggerate, there are no places in Mexico poorer than Central Africa.

By the way, don´t care what people think about Mexico.

Alejandro MEX don´t exaggerate, there are no places in Mexico poorer than Central Africa.

By the way, don´t care what people think about Mexico.

Certainly there are. Not in the cities, but in the rural areas. I don't care what people think about me, but I do care what people think about my country.

Alejandro MEX don´t exaggerate, there are no places in Mexico poorer than Central Africa.

By the way, don´t care what people think about Mexico.

Certainly there are. Not in the cities, but in the rural areas. I don't care what people think about me, but I do care what people think about my country.

Wow! Guadalajara looks really clean and green. Loved that city. :)

one of the most affluent areas in the metropolitan area of Guadalajara
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one of the most affluent areas in the metropolitan area of Guadalajara
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Great photos.

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That reminds me a good news (http://pedalepiaui.blogspot.com/2010/12/mas-bicis-para-cambiar-la-cara-de-la.html) from Mexico these days.

yes people, Mexico is not unpaved roads with donkeys and families wearing sombreros trying to jump to USA

Well, this is thanks in part to Hollywood. There are thousands of movies taking place in the Fifth Avenue and the Mexican slums, and never of Masaryk Avenue (in Mexico City) and the slums in New Orleans. They tend to show the best parts of the U.S., but you have never seen a beautiful Mexican place (not even a beach) in a Hollywood blockbuster.

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A proud citizen of Mexico wants to promote his country. It's not as bad as some say. It's a conspiracy, they hide the truth !! those americans smear Mexico with lies !!



But if so, why are so many mexicans trying to cross the border into the USA ?

Why don't you see americans trying to sneak in to Mexico ??

Because salaries in the US are higher, standard of living higher, life expectancy higher. Mexico is poorer, allthough some mexicans are rich.

A proud citizen of Mexico wants to promote his country. It's not as bad as some say. It's a conspiracy, they hide the truth !! those americans smear Mexico with lies !!

But if so, why are so many mexicans trying to cross the border into the USA ?

Why don't you see americans trying to sneak in to Mexico ??

Because salaries in the US are higher, standard of living higher, life expectancy higher. Mexico is poorer, allthough some mexicans are rich.

If you study and work hard in this country, you don't have the necessity to cross the border, the majority of the people searching for jobs in USA are no educated , they want fast money, right now theres a lot of mexicans coming back for the economy situation,

If you study and work hard in this country, you don't have the necessity to cross the border, the majority of the people searching for jobs in USA are no educated , they want fast money, right now theres a lot of mexicans coming back for the economy situation,

True. But from how I see it, the majority of those crossing the border to The United States are lower class Mexicans from bordering provinces especially those from Baja California or from Chihuahua.

But they can also find the same opportunity in large Mexican cities say Guadalajara or Mexico City. The fact Mexico City is an economic centre for Latin America and the country itself is an economic powerhouse.

And middle and upper-class Mexicans will still travel to the US, in a tourist visa and going there for vacation and leisure, not for work.

A proud citizen of Mexico wants to promote his country. It's not as bad as some say. It's a conspiracy, they hide the truth !! those americans smear Mexico with lies !!



But if so, why are so many mexicans trying to cross the border into the USA ?

Why don't you see americans trying to sneak in to Mexico ??

Because salaries in the US are higher, standard of living higher, life expectancy higher. Mexico is poorer, allthough some mexicans are rich.

We have the same situation with The Philippines where it is mostly perceived as a poor country through foreign media and that there are millions of Filipinos going abroad for better opportunities. But the reality is, The Philippines is a middle-income, newly industrialized country.

We cannot deny the fact, The United States is much more progressive than Mexico or even Canada. But like I said earlier, those crossing the border are from the provinces bordering the US.

The real problem in Mexico is the distribution of wealth. We can find here places poorer than Central Africa and the richest people on earth (ask Carlos Slim).[/B]

Income inequality in Mexico is almost the same as with the United States.

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A proud citizen of Mexico wants to promote his country. It's not as bad as some say. It's a conspiracy, they hide the truth !! those americans smear Mexico with lies !!



But if so, why are so many mexicans trying to cross the border into the USA ?

Why don't you see americans trying to sneak in to Mexico ??Because salaries in the US are higher, standard of living higher, life expectancy higher. Mexico is poorer, allthough some mexicans are rich.

There are. remember there are 2 Millions of American expats living in Mexico and some of them are ilegal

I've never met a well off Mexican who has any desire to pack up and move to the USA, the ones who go are very poor and are looking for a way to make more money.

Most would much rather live in Mexico is money wasn't an issue

I've never met a well off Mexican who has any desire to pack up and move to the USA, the ones who go are very poor and are looking for a way to make more money.

Most would much rather live in Mexico is money wasn't an issue

There are a few well off Mexicans that are moving to places such as Miami, Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, McAllen, and El Paso but that is mostly because of either safety concerns or they are just buying a second home.

New York Times: For Rich Mexicans, Parallel Lives in U.S. (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/16/realestate/16nati.html)

New York Times: Mexican Wealth Gives Texas City A New Vitality (http://www.nytimes.com/2003/06/14/business/mexican-wealth-gives-texas-city-a-new-vitality.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm)

Houston Chronicle: The Woodlands is a hot spot for rich Mexicans (http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/The-Woodlands-is-[B]a-hot-spot-for-rich-Mexicans-1796496.php)

Very beautiful city! ¡Una ciudad muy bella!