NAME: THE TORCH
LOCATION: DUBAI MARINA
FLOORS: 84
HEIGHT: 345m
USE: RES
CONSTRUCTION START: 2006
CONSTRUCTION END: 2008


New render by NEB:-------------------------Old render by K&A

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Model:

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The Torch, also referred to as the Marina Torch and Dubai Torch, is being built as one of the many freehold residential towers located at the Dubai Marina, which is opposite to the Jumeirah Lake Towers and next to the American University of Dubai. It is located on the same side of the marina as the Dubai Marina Towers and just two buildings away.

The ~345 meter (1,132 feet) high building will have a total built up area of 111,832 square meters (1.2 million square feet) and be elevated by 3 basements and a 4-storey podium block. The Torch tower will have 74 storeys and contain 658 apartment units.

The three basements and four podium levels of the Torch tower will provide car parking for 536 vehicles, while floors 5 and 6 will contain recreational amenities including a swimming pool, health club, gymnasium, cafeteria, aerobic rooms and sit-out cover seal terraces.

Expected Completion Date - In 2008
Real Estate Developer - Dubai Select Property
Location - Dubai Marina, Dubai, United Arab Emirates

Updates by Imre 04.08.2006

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It is a really good tower, however I hope it won't be a standalone, because it's the type of tower that needs a forest of smaller buildings around it, to really showcase its worth
Many tall thin towers are like this, even the great Chrysler building, if you put it in the middle of Nebraska, will look out of place.

Now, for the battle of old vs new, I prefer the new version of the tower

^^ it will definitely not stand alone.. it's a part of the "tallest block in the world" in Dubai Marina.. here's a render made for what the block will look like in a couple of years (the torch is hiding in the back)... keep in mind this is not it.. there are at least 3 towers not announced for this block that are not included in this render

http://i2.tinypic.com/orpchy.jpg

It is a really good tower, however I hope it won't be a standalone, because it's the type of tower that needs a forest of smaller buildings around it, to really showcase its worth
Many tall thin towers are like this, even the great Chrysler building, if you put it in the middle of Nebraska, will look out of place.

Now, for the battle of old vs new, I prefer the new version of the tower

You know what BIG BLOCK is??:D:D

Towers around it are 207 to 420+ meters, more than 10 monsters!!

Oh noo, I liked the old design so much, this new one is soo standart for dubai .....

ive seen adds for this in local sydney paper. units for 300K. love all dubais super talls.
thanks for updates

the first city in which will be more than 2 300m+ towers next to each other.

^^ NO, it is the first city where a 412m tower isn't advertising sea views despite being just 100 meters from the sea shore.


... all this becouse just in front, is another 400+ m tower. :lol:

NAME: THE TORCH
LOCATION: DUBAI MARINA
FLOORS: 84
HEIGHT: 345m
USE: RES
CONSTRUCTION START: 2006
CONSTRUCTION END: 2008


New render by NEB:-------------------------Old render by K&A

http://i2.tinypic.com/1zoeo0w.jpg



I like the older desig, looks much more futuristic.

^^ NO, it is the first city where a 412m tower isn't advertising sea views despite being just 100 meters from the sea shore.


... all this becouse just in front, is another 400+ m tower. :lol:


yeah :)

The older design had the Yokohama's tallest going on.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/06/Yokohama_MinatoMirai21.jpg

I like the older desig, looks much more futuristic.

The old one looks like a gigantic missile or something, haha, I like the newer one I think, looks a little more classy.

i Also think that the old render was much better

The newer design looks like a much simpler (re: cheaper) design to build. I'm starting to see this in many of the redesigns of these taller towers in Dubai. I think they're redesigning the towers to simplify them and make them cheaper to build, perhaps to boost profits or to adjust for rising construction costs.

Cheaper in Dubai???

I think they're redesigning the towers to simplify them and make them cheaper to build, perhaps to boost profits or to adjust for rising construction costs.

Definetly true. there is no doubt about this.

18/08/2006

The Torch

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the hole is much bigger than on august 4th

not much to see there unfortunately... good thing is we'll get to see most of these supertalls rise together next summer

The older design had the Yokohama's tallest going on.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/06/Yokohama_MinatoMirai21.jpg

I was thinking exactally the same, i just couldnt remember the name of this tower.

Even though I actually love the designs of Dubai towers (this one is great too!), I still think Dubai will have nor a skyline nor become a metropolitan city. To me, ALL these towers are 'standalone' because even though they are accompanied by more enormous towers in the same street, there is no 'base' to make it look real. Where is the street level action? Where are the 50-120m towers around it? Why do they ONLY seem to build tall? Of course I haven't been there so I'm only judging from pictures. I don't care if Dubai builds another 600 skyscrapers - as long as they don't try to form a coherent city it's not interesting to me.

Hm ... Ok...

^ Wow, what a contribution!

I guess you didn't get my point. The Torth for example is a GREAT design, but in Dubai it's just that - there is no context. So the same design in Dubai would get a 7 from me, while if it was placed in for example New York it would get a 8.5

^^ I guess that's one of the side effects of building everything at once. You have no clue what'll be built next door so context is a much harder thing to do. BTW, there are a whole load of smaller buildings going up aswell, they just don't make it to the world forums ;)
Even business bay which contains super-highrises like the burj al alam still consists mostly of 30-storey towers.

I like the oldest :D

^^ I guess that's one of the side effects of building everything at once. You have no clue what'll be built next door so context is a much harder thing to do. BTW, there are a whole load of smaller buildings going up aswell, they just don't make it to the world forums ;)
Even business bay which contains super-highrises like the burj al alam still consists mostly of 30-storey towers.

Mostly 30 storeys isn't midrise or 'context' to me... I'm talking more about the 5-30 storey buildings that form the ground level in most cities.

I'm just saying that if you put Chrysler, ESB, Petronas and Taipei 101 next to each other the effect would be SO different from reality!

^^ I think your right, I'm missing low and midrise around them too.

Well, I suppose that because of megaprojects like the marina, the skyline will be in patches with clusters of tall towers here and there. The centre of the city looks a lot different though, more like this:

http://static.flickr.com/51/130687813_60fd6dc55e_o.jpg

Anyway, we'll have to see how all these new areas turn out.

which city is it?

the same city that this tower's getting built in

Well, I suppose that because of megaprojects like the marina, the skyline will be in patches with clusters of tall towers here and there. The centre of the city looks a lot different though, more like this:

http://static.flickr.com/51/130687813_60fd6dc55e_o.jpg

Anyway, we'll have to see how all these new areas turn out.

OMG this is dubai, i cant believe it. :eek2: :eek2:
Looks like some north african city.

^ Wow, what a contribution!

I guess you didn't get my point. The Torth for example is a GREAT design, but in Dubai it's just that - there is no context. So the same design in Dubai would get a 7 from me, while if it was placed in for example New York it would get a 8.5

No, I understood you completely.

You want to see street level pictures of The Torch aerea?

(50 - 100 meters from the tower itself):


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All pictures were taken by me personally, on a weekend (January 6th, 2006)

Thanks for setting the records straight! This looks like a wonderful place to be.

NICE RENDERS

84 FLOORS IN 385 MTRS? HMMM......
SHOULD THE HEIGHT HAVE BEEN SMWHR AROUND 475M???

Altin those are some amazing pics of dubai i've ever seen, looks very tourist friendly and clean as always lol.

Yes it's clean, but I also think it's very loud because construction work!!

Piling starts in end of september.

Finally :master:

The city is starting to look very nice at street level.

84 FLOORS IN 385 MTRS? HMMM......
SHOULD THE HEIGHT HAVE BEEN SMWHR AROUND 475M???
if it had normal residential floors that would make it 3m each floor x 84=252m. but looks like Dubai use mostly 4m floor heights for residential which is equal to office tower floors, thus 84x 4m=336m etc.
the torch has a architectural feature and spire which is equakl to 12 resi floors or 35m.
So maybe floor heights are 3.7m? 84x 3.7m= 310m (roof) + 35m arc feature/spire = 345m

http://i2.tinypic.com/1zoeo0w.jpg

^^ Which one is it?

left one is new design.

^^ Thanks!! Is it the perspective of the rendering or is the old design really broader at the base?

Here is the high res render:

http://www.stottgroup.co.uk/media/images/Torch-430x900.jpg

Wuauw it lokks really nice the proyect, Dubai really ROCKS :rock:

^^this skyscraper is very good,so slim
GO UP DUBAI! :D

The new design looks much better.

Here is the high res render:

http://www.stottgroup.co.uk/media/images/Torch-430x900.jpg

Nice render.

25.08.2006 By Imre

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Again 25.08.2006 By Imre

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good progress

Yep they have dug wholes into the ground.

03/09/2006

The Torch

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when will it rising?

no real progress.

when will it rising?

half year:)

cool. hey imre did you take some photos of the Index?

The bore holes look tiny...

cool. hey imre did you take some photos of the Index?

not now.. next time I will take..

I'm already strained :)

Man, this building is gorgeous.

when will it rising?


Piling start is announced to start end of september. Hope so!!

15/09/2006

The Torch

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nice updates

23/09/2006

The Torch

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Not much progress.

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What is this? :?

What is this? :?

Burkha Clad Construction equipment :cheers:

Burkha Clad Construction equipment :cheers:

And it's top secret?

a crane?

06/10/2006

The Torch

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EXCELLENT!!!

Piling completed, now they have to do some shallow excavation to revele the pile caps, brake them (the concrete part) and start working on the Raft Foundation. :cheers:

just waiting for DCE to arrive.

great, it'll rising in the near future :)

EXCELLENT!!!

Piling completed, now they have to do some shallow excavation to revele the pile caps, brake them (the concrete part) and start working on the Raft Foundation. :cheers:

Why do they break the piles?

I know nothing about construction techniques, a few explanations would be appreciated !

^^ They don't break the piles, they break their top, to reveal the metalic sceleton inside.

Have you ever connected two electric or telephone wires together? Same thing.

Not that I know much about construction techniques, but after taking some thousands of construction updates pictures, you get to learn something :)

13/10/2006

The Torch

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27/10/2006

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very excited about this block... pretty much the same progress on this one as princess tower next to it... shud be exciting to watch these two rise together

Very nice. The value of the dock spaces is probably exploding as we speak.

looking good!

^^ They don't break the piles, they break their top, to reveal the metalic sceleton inside.

Your explanation is very well illustrated by the latest pics :)

^^ They don't break the piles, they break their top, to reveal the metalic sceleton inside.

Have you ever connected two electric or telephone wires together? Same thing.

Not that I know much about construction techniques, but after taking some thousands of construction updates pictures, you get to learn something :)


What's the purpose of the exposed skeleton? LoL sorry i dont' know much either with regards to construction.

:eek::eek2::eek: WOW another excellent building in Dubai Marina, this building represents it's own name The Torch.

What's the purpose of the exposed skeleton? LoL sorry i dont' know much either with regards to construction.

Well, over the piles will be erected the concrete pillars that make the structure of the building. Since pillars have a metalic sceleton inside, they first erct that one (for every floor height) and then pour the concrete to complete the pillar. The metalic sceleton of the pillar to be erected overhead, must ber welded together with the sceleton of the pillar or pile below, so the top part of the metal sceleton must be left exposed in order to allow for the welding.This is repeated during the entire construction proces.

Just check any construction update picture and you'll notice that there are always metal bars sticking up

http://i15.tinypic.com/4cib5mw.jpg

:eek:

Well, over the piles will be erected the concrete pillars that make the structure of the building. Since pillars have a metalic sceleton inside, they first erct that one (for every floor height) and then pour the concrete to complete the pillar. The metalic sceleton of the pillar to be erected overhead, must ber welded together with the sceleton of the pillar or pile below, so the top part of the metal sceleton must be left exposed in order to allow for the welding.This is repeated during the entire construction proces.

Just check any construction update picture and you'll notice that there are always metal bars sticking up

OHH K Thanks a lot altind!

what a deep hole!

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What is this? :?

This is a very interesting pic that is not so often taken. This also leads me to think that often pilling and basements are often considered as out of the construction process by several members here. But imagine that the guys dig hole sometimes down to 80 mtrs below ground level so that the tower is stable and don't collapse.

Thanks you guys for taking pictures from this stage of construction...

Anyway, the pictures here shows a test run on the piles where they try to rip the pilling collumn off the ground to validate ground stability and columns strenght as well. THey seem to use hydraulic jacks and huge beams to split the loads on several ground areas.

We also saw on The BD thread at the very beginning of the construction that they did build a huge pile of rocks to test soil stability under weight constraint...

:cheers1:

Krys

y did they cover tht thing ... ?? it wadnt even in the rainy season ..

^^ May have been to protect intellectual property. The construction industry is very cutthroat. I guess its a little like when auto companies cover their cars during road testing.

^^ The direct sunlight will influence the reading of the very sensitive equipment (the heat effect). Something like the thermometer measures the temperature only on shadow.

This is a very interesting pic that is not so often taken. This also leads me to think that often pilling and basements are often considered as out of the construction process by several members here. But imagine that the guys dig hole sometimes down to 80 mtrs below ground level so that the tower is stable and don't collapse.

Thanks you guys for taking pictures from this stage of construction...

Anyway, the pictures here shows a test run on the piles where they try to rip the pilling collumn off the ground to validate ground stability and columns strenght as well. THey seem to use hydraulic jacks and huge beams to split the loads on several ground areas.

We also saw on The BD thread at the very beginning of the construction that they did build a huge pile of rocks to test soil stability under weight constraint...

:cheers1:

Krys

i think it is for keeping from high temperature and humidity

^^ The direct sunlight will influence the reading of the very sensitive equipment (the heat effect). Something like the thermometer measures the temperature only on shadow.

I agree AltinD but the sheets themselves would trap an enormous amount of heat which I think would also influence the reading. It may simply be for protection from the sun as you said.

The Torch

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Piling almost complete.
Look at pic 4, a though job for those guys. Working a whole day with a jack-hammer. The first pic gives an impression of the size of this hole, look at the size of the workers.

Looks like 23 marina and the torch will rise above groundlevel at about the same time

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it seems that there will be a huge core, no?

wonderfull pictures! I enjoyed watching them :cheers:
the core will be pretty big indeed

it seems that there will be a huge core, no?

The core will be a normal one, for such scraper and it is as big as the hole in the middle of the site that goes deeper then the rest. THe base of the tower is huge though.

great update

Thank you to both yourself and mackie1964 for the pics Stephan23 :D

This is a great looking tower. For the record, I like the new design better. With a name like The Torch, I would think the top would be all lit up. Is this the case?

Yes, there will be a huge LED display on top in the shape of a torch / flame

any update please???

Today by imre!!

ok thank you

27/01/2007

The Torch

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This one should rise first :)

^ I Disagree, I think 23 Marina and MAG 218 are slightly ahead. But most of the buildings on the tallest block should start rising in the next 6 or so months. It's going to be amazing watching so many supertalls rise together.

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^^ very nice pic's

not long and it'll start to rise

02/02/2007

The Torch

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There gonna be 3 or 4 tower in the Marina area all starting to rise within 3 to 4 months of each other by the looks of things.

Should make for some good pics. Cheers Imre

wow....!!! its look great !!!

16/02/2006

The Torch

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23/02/2007

The Torch

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05.03.2007 By scoot68

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nice pics

how much deep ?
16m ?

Wow, that's a deep pit. Nice pictures everyone!

Wow, is that the hole fot the main core ??? Its huge !!! great pics...

09/March/2007

The Torch

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^^ construction site looks very neat!! good progress!

will start to rise soon together with 23 Marina and MAG 218 Tower :)

That's a shitload of rebars

Yea I like the look of that site. It does seem very clean and organized.

Judging from the piling caps, this is going to be on par with the Rose in terms of thinness.

Update:



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Some renders by me:

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That's a shitload of rebars

Agreed, thats insane amounts of rebar!

For some reason, I just wouldn't want to occupy a highrise names "The Torch".

Not exactly safe sounding, ya know?

why the hell, tiltle say completed??

lol @ title

close enough to completed I suppose :lol:

lol. Great title.
But yea, go foundation!!! Go!

http://i12.tinypic.com/3z7sae1

Alright it seems to be getting out of control down there.

that is unreal. a 345 meter super tower and its view of the ocean is blocked off by a wall of even taller buildings. wow

Holy sh*t. I've never seen so much rebar. And it's only 345 meters! That's a baby compared to some of the stuff going up nowadays. They must have built it on pretty weak ground to warrant that kind of...rebar "sheeting."

Anyone else of the opinion, they may as well have poured liquid metal in there and saved the trouble of making it look like grandmas cross stitch? :P

^^ The rebar is reinforcement for the concrete that will be poured in there, yes a 3 metter thick reinforced conrete slab.

The reason for that is not exactly becouse of the weak ground (the deep inserted piles take care of that) but the excess ground water on site. The water will put pressure from beneath and try to push up the entire structure, therefore they have to build a very heavy foundation slab to counter the force.

That's gonna be one big-ass concrete pour.

i would like to see Burj dubai foundations at this stage! Lol i love such amount of rebars!

@ AltinD: I see, I guess being on the coastline makes the watertable pretty close to the surface.

^^ Yes and the soil is sand which multiplys the problem even on sites not so close to the sea shore.

13/April/2007

The Torch

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/5915/photo071wj7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/9865/photo072gd8.th.jpg (http://img224.imageshack.us/my.php?image=photo072gd8.jpg)http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/92/photo073ff1.th.jpg (http://img245.imageshack.us/my.php?image=photo073ff1.jpg)http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/179/photo074gn7.th.jpg (http://img149.imageshack.us/my.php?image=photo074gn7.jpg)http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/3424/photo075ts5.th.jpg (http://img149.imageshack.us/my.php?image=photo075ts5.jpg)http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/7082/photo076gu3.th.jpg (http://img157.imageshack.us/my.php?image=photo076gu3.jpg)http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/2367/photo077kh5.th.jpg (http://img245.imageshack.us/my.php?image=photo077kh5.jpg)
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/2778/photo088kp6.th.jpg (http://img149.imageshack.us/my.php?image=photo088kp6.jpg)http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/9815/photo089kc5.th.jpg (http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=photo089kc5.jpg)http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/5589/photo090cz9.th.jpg (http://img157.imageshack.us/my.php?image=photo090cz9.jpg)

:lol: :lol: Think there still is room for concrete down there?
lol, amazing amount of rebars, thanks for update.

I still cant beleive the amount of rebar being used....

walaoooo...... its a hell lotsa rebar used ......

26/04/2007

The Torch

7 concrete pums already at the site , more pics tomorrow

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/9383/imresolt52ou1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/8587/imresolt53gw4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

pics from Scoot68

http://i17.tinypic.com/405scia.jpg
http://i13.tinypic.com/35jbark.jpg
http://i13.tinypic.com/2myrmkh.jpg

hahaha, they look like giant spiders! Very cool pics!!

26.04.07

http://i11.tinypic.com/2z4fl1l.jpg

http://i11.tinypic.com/4c8c2zp.jpg

http://i15.tinypic.com/3zqv2xe.jpg

http://i16.tinypic.com/2nswcpd.jpg

:cheers:

Amaizing. Ready for the big pour ...

nice pictures...:) ..the tower starts to grow...:cheers:

The pour has started! Many thanks to scoot68 for the photo:

http://i15.tinypic.com/30xa17b.jpg

I guess we should all thank scoot68 for that shot. That's really interesting. I wonder how long this big pour took.

wow, thank you syedaouf!

I don't think this has been posted here already..

Hi All,

Concrete pour for the raft is scheduled for this weekend. In theory the biggest concrete pour to take place in Dubai to date - 11,900m3.


http://i19.tinypic.com/2n7qsjt.jpg
http://i18.tinypic.com/490h536.jpg
http://i14.tinypic.com/479dw6g.jpg

What....the hell....attack of the machines. They are pouring fast huh? Ive never seen more than....one of those things at a construction site ever.

WOW, what a compilation ! Look like "the centinels" are destroying the "Nabuchodonosor"...........

i dont think i ever seen so many concrete pump trucks at 1 site like this befor

27/April/2007

The Torch

I spent almost 2 hours there , amazing and very well organised job with 11 pumps:)

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/9013/imresolt064bm0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/8377/imresolt057oc5.th.jpg (http://img84.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt057oc5.jpg)http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/2408/imresolt058um7.th.jpg (http://img156.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt058um7.jpg)http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/2208/imresolt059cy4.th.jpg (http://img300.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt059cy4.jpg)http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/8100/imresolt060fq1.th.jpg (http://img84.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt060fq1.jpg)http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/3193/imresolt061sp0.th.jpg (http://img84.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt061sp0.jpg)http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/3794/imresolt062wa4.th.jpg (http://img156.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt062wa4.jpg)http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/6117/imresolt063cb5.th.jpg (http://img300.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt063cb5.jpg)

The Torch PART2

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/4619/imresolt065eb2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/7934/imresolt066an5.th.jpg (http://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt066an5.jpg)http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/576/imresolt067rf5.th.jpg (http://img84.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt067rf5.jpg)http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/859/imresolt068uy2.th.jpg (http://img84.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt068uy2.jpg)
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/8206/imresolt069aj3.th.jpg (http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt069aj3.jpg)http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/4149/imresolt072fc0.th.jpg (http://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt072fc0.jpg)http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/2189/imresolt073lg0.th.jpg (http://img84.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt073lg0.jpg)http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/4610/imresolt074hm9.th.jpg (http://img224.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt074hm9.jpg)

Imre you've made my day, again! :)
great to see the pouring of this beautifull tower

The Torch PART3

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/1466/imresolt071tg4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/5029/imresolt070cu2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/9083/imresolt076kp1.th.jpg (http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt076kp1.jpg)http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/9213/imresolt080we7.th.jpg (http://img84.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt080we7.jpg)http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/4567/imresolt081se3.th.jpg (http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt081se3.jpg)http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/439/imresolt082zt3.th.jpg (http://img224.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt082zt3.jpg)
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/9430/imresolt083db9.th.jpg (http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt083db9.jpg)http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/3237/imresolt084se4.th.jpg (http://img224.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt084se4.jpg)

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/2040/imresolt085lm3.th.jpg (http://img84.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt085lm3.jpg)

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/9671/imresolt086nk4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

^^Everyones happy to see you Imre! :P

OMG!! I just realised theres 10 concrete pumps!!! :eek:

thank you imre, impressive pics!

So....is Imre in the pics? if so who? :D

of course he is ..we just have to keep a sharp eye on the pictures...he is there somewhere ...:) ..but i don't know wich one..is him...

Guys, Imre is not in any of those picture.

He has shown himself (not clearly) only in a couple of pictures he posted last December. ;)

Every construction site has that amount of pumps at an the initial fill, its cus it needs to be done at once, as fast as possible. You should have seen it for rose rotana. such a small area, with about 15 pumps crammed in! I LOVE DUBAI

The new design looks good:cool:

9th May 07

http://i12.tinypic.com/6extel2.jpg

slowly it's going to be interesting

Yes, before too long it will start to take it's form... :cheers:

Close Up: 16-May-2007

http://i10.tinypic.com/66yp24h.jpg

^^THAT IS SO COOL!!!

its a bigger site and footprint that Princess tower whcih is taller

18/May/2007

The Torch

The dream:

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/7189/imresolt176ni2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

and the reality:

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/4919/imresolt169pd2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/4782/imresolt170wt5.th.jpg (http://img243.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt170wt5.jpg)http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/2787/imresolt171pf6.th.jpg (http://img243.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt171pf6.jpg)http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/7351/imresolt172vp0.th.jpg (http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt172vp0.jpg)http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/9173/imresolt173em8.th.jpg (http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt173em8.jpg)
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/2923/imresolt174mj6.th.jpg (http://img243.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt174mj6.jpg)http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/3785/imresolt175eq1.th.jpg (http://img243.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt175eq1.jpg)http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/2307/imresolt177xk3.th.jpg (http://img243.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt177xk3.jpg)http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/3076/imresolt178hs4.th.jpg (http://img243.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt178hs4.jpg)

Thanks Imre for posting this!!

23/May/2007

Marina Pinnacle , The Torch and unknown Emaar site from Time Place

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/8848/imresolt082qw1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/9866/imresolt113og5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

These deserve to be shown here also. Wonderfull renders from malec and Dubai Addiction showing the Torch in context.

http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/1703/marinav69vk8.jpg

http://img466.imageshack.us/img466/8233/marinav610ij2.jpg

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/2440/marinav611vr3.jpg

Holy shit!!! The marina will be amazing when done Cheers Malec and Steve for posting

I think this month we can see some news or photos .........

^^ Many new photos are available on this tower's thread on the UAE forum.

i prefer old design too.. new one looks generic

^^ You're actually right.

Nice models

WoW! It's gonna look tall and dense when everything is completed in the marina!

Hi Everyone,

I am new to this forum but have spent the last few days reading through it from the start.

I am considering making an investment into the Torch and would be gratefull of any advice offered. There are obviously some very inteligent experienced investors in here !!

As i have never been in a building as tall as the Torch could anyone let me have some info on how the lift logistics work in a building of this hight, i.e;

How long does it take to go from ground to penthouse?

Is it straight up an down in one lift or is there a change half way up?

What speed are these lifts capable of?

Thanks,

^^ Welcome to the SSC forums buddy!! Have a good time here :D :D

15/June/2007

The Torch

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/3315/imresolt115jt3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/6628/imresolt116sp0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/5234/imresolt117bq7.th.jpg (http://img101.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt117bq7.jpg)http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/2747/imresolt118ha7.th.jpg (http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt118ha7.jpg)http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/4651/imresolt119tq9.th.jpg (http://img101.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt119tq9.jpg)http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/6505/imresolt120bn6.th.jpg (http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt120bn6.jpg)

Haha ... the formwork perimeter is red colour.

So far we have seen them only in white (BRM, GROCON) or yellow (DOKA), and this will make for an very interesting and colorfull sight when the tower will be rising up in the air especially considering also the not so distant 23Marina using the same scheme.

29/June/2007

The Torch

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/1300/imresolt080pa1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/4362/imresolt081ih7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/4946/imresolt082gx3.th.jpg (http://img263.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt082gx3.jpg)http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/9247/imresolt083se4.th.jpg (http://img263.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt083se4.jpg)http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/9517/imresolt084vf7.th.jpg (http://img340.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt084vf7.jpg)http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/7479/imresolt085dr1.th.jpg (http://img263.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt085dr1.jpg)http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/4430/imresolt086ga9.th.jpg (http://img340.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt086ga9.jpg)

Almost at ground level :)

wow massive and taller building simultaneously construct...
so 5 years from now... DUBAI ... will be the City of Skyscraper....

City of supertalls will do more justice...

Hi Everyone,

I am new to this forum but have spent the last few days reading through it from the start.

I am considering making an investment into the Torch and would be gratefull of any advice offered. There are obviously some very inteligent experienced investors in here !!

As i have never been in a building as tall as the Torch could anyone let me have some info on how the lift logistics work in a building of this hight, i.e;

How long does it take to go from ground to penthouse?

Is it straight up an down in one lift or is there a change half way up?

What speed are these lifts capable of?

Thanks,


you should check out the " pros section"
since this thread is construction;gets updated a lot and your post will soon be hidden among hundreds of pictures and posts.

^^ He already got the answers to all of his questions on The Torch thread on the UAE forum.

06/July/2007

The Torch , the core reached the street level

http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/373/imresolt097dc2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/903/imresolt098od7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/51/imresolt099ik4.th.jpg (http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt099ik4.jpg)http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/2929/imresolt100oh7.th.jpg (http://img340.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt100oh7.jpg)http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/4785/imresolt101es1.th.jpg (http://img184.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt101es1.jpg)http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/4149/imresolt102zj4.th.jpg (http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt102zj4.jpg)http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/1863/imresolt103oo5.th.jpg (http://img184.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt103oo5.jpg)

woow another great update .. :)

It will be nice to see how The Torch and 23 Marina will progress. Both are at the same stage, are being build by the same contractor using the same building technique and the roof heights are not that much different ... and just a few hundreds meters distant.

amid this dubai boom. i wonder if all the units are taken up? any data on the statisitic of occupation in office and residential units?

Hmmmm nice to see this building rising from its pit. :D

Thanks Imre for letting us seeing this :D :D

Here :cheers:

ok days remaining:793

may be less.
may be more.

^^ Wow...Dubai would definitely beat the existing cities of skyscrapers in the near future! Or...has it already done that? watchatink?

amid this dubai boom. i wonder if all the units are taken up? any data on the statisitic of occupation in office and residential units?

Yup..I wonder that too..Also, are all these investments initiated by private investors?

15 July 2007

http://i8.tinypic.com/6go7rxw.jpg

20/July/2007

The Torch

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/3299/imresolt138kp7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/1286/imresolt139nn2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/4286/imresolt140cl1.th.jpg (http://img183.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt140cl1.jpg)http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/5062/imresolt141op9.th.jpg (http://img183.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt141op9.jpg)http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/4647/imresolt142sp4.th.jpg (http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt142sp4.jpg)http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/648/imresolt143ju4.th.jpg (http://img507.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt143ju4.jpg)http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/7609/imresolt145za7.th.jpg (http://img183.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt145za7.jpg)

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/9901/imresolt153yx4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

17/Aug/2007

The Torch

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/9107/imresolt064di2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/7577/imresolt100os4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/2816/imresolt101tp5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/2200/imresolt102ks7.th.jpg (http://img250.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt102ks7.jpg)http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/386/imresolt103ai3.th.jpg (http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt103ai3.jpg)http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/7518/imresolt111ja1.th.jpg (http://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt111ja1.jpg)

17/Aug/2007

The Torch

http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/7577/imresolt100os4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/2816/imresolt101tp5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/2200/imresolt102ks7.th.jpg (http://img250.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt102ks7.jpg)http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/386/imresolt103ai3.th.jpg (http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt103ai3.jpg)http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/7518/imresolt111ja1.th.jpg (http://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt111ja1.jpg)

it's rising like 23 marina!:lol:

24/Aug/2007

The Torch

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/7383/imresolt037wj1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/9428/imresolt038fw9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/7326/imresolt039gc0.th.jpg (http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt039gc0.jpg)http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/9445/imresolt040xd4.th.jpg (http://img209.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt040xd4.jpg)http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/104/imresolt046xx1.th.jpg (http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt046xx1.jpg)

Rising fast and not even 4 months after they poured the foundation raft. Man thats fast:)

getting taller!!

31/Aug/2007

The Torch

http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/4376/imresolt023nr3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img459.imageshack.us/img459/5089/imresolt041wy8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/1409/imresolt043rk3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img459.imageshack.us/img459/9118/imresolt044ng8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

rising like 23 marina!:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

07/Sept/2007

The Torch

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/6351/imresolt279co2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/5331/imresolt051eu5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/1640/imresolt052jv7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/7450/imresolt066pd4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

14/September/2007

The Torch

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/8624/imresolt111xx3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/5566/imresolt112wu9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/7196/imresolt113ty9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

man thats fast:nuts:

Picking up speed! Great! :D

21/Sept/2007

The Torch

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/9766/imresolt063vn2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/7271/imresolt064ud7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/9686/imresolt066dz5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/7862/imresolt067nx8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/6964/imresolt069ws8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

This one is fast...! Hope they keep it up!

Thanks for sharing pics. Its all a great constructoin show going on !

15/Oct/2007

The Torch

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/2862/imresolt30ak4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/2425/imresolt31qj7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/713/imresolt32fi2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Are the thinner structure just the core or are the lower floors a podium?

^^ Yes AND Yes.

You can spot the central core on the center-left part of the picture:

http://i22.tinypic.com/apjoe8.jpg

24/October/2007

The Torch

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/2946/imresolt039bd3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/5508/imresolt041xn0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1995/imresolt042os5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/5275/imresolt043nx9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/6446/imresolt044ia3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

what's going on at the 3rd pic? the concrete in the background doesn't look very good

yes, you can see the quality there:)

that looks like a big mistake in the construction ^^. it looks there's no conrete only damaged steel. don't forget that is the core which has to give the stability to the tower

Yea, I spotted it too...

For a tower of its stature and the engineering discipline needed to built a tower of its proportions, that pic has made me very worried...

It appears the formwork has been raised without addressing this. If this is so, can you imagine what other errors could already have been made which will compound the situation in the near future?

I am no structural engineer, but shouldnt that rebar be vertical rather than layered diagonally?

shiit its the first thing that i notced too. very worrying. i dont understand how the newer concrete layer seems to float above the diagonal rebar.

So now we have all of the armchair engineers worrying about an apparently massive problem that the experts haven't seen at all. Now I'm no architect or builder or engineer but isn't it fairly possible that they'll be putting horizontal rebar through there and pouring a floor slab and filling it in with concrete at that time especially since all of the columns appear to have that gap at the same level? The floor slabs have to connect to the core somehow, they can't just butt up against it. I'll tell you what is NOT likely, and that's that they "messed up" and "haven't noticed".

Yes Hollie, I am hoping someone with expertise will clear this up. Im worried but I know better than to jump to conclusions. The fact is that is not the only thing that looks 'odd'. The state of the concrete itself looks very disorderly and I would love to hear from someone who knows if this is all normal or if it is shoddy. :)

^^ After posting the above, I found someone else confirming that this is exactly the case in the UAE thread. Nothing to worry about :)

Nothing to worry. This is the way they purposely do. Those are the column starter bars that ll b eventually exposed out to link to the slab rebar. If there is no starter bar, how would u hold the slab from the core, rite?

Dubai is the capital city these days in highrise construction. Some of the new skyscrapers are beautiful and a few are not ... but this is a nice one in my view. It's sleek and it soars.

Since nearly all this new construction is for apartment homes I am wondering if there are so many people who can to live in these buildings? Lets face it, these are not cheap places, and these buildings are for affluent (that means RICH) apartment seekers. For example, here in North America they usually don't even start building a highrise apartment tower until a certain number - like one third or one half or even more - of the apartments are sold (usually at a discounted pre-construction price). Is this true for Dubai? If not the investors may be taking a HUGE risk if the buildings are half empty at the time they are completed.

02/Nov/2007

The Torch

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09/November/2007

The Torch

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Tallest block in the world! I LOVE it! Go Dubai and the UAE!

i don't know.....i don't really like it.

stunning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

23/November/2007

The Torch

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doesn't seem to be rising