View Full Version : The Israeli flag or the Jewish flag
sickboy August 7th, 2006, 11:36 PM Hi all,
I am new here, and I was hoping some of you would like to give me your thoughts about a disagreement I am having with someone.
I overheard someone refer to the Israeli Flag as a Jewish Flag and I corrected him. He asserts that because the flag was created before Israel was recognized that the flag is a symbol of Judaism and it is not incorrect to call it a Jewish Flag.
However I feel that the flag was created as a symbol of Zionism, (re: Israel) and rather than representing just Judaism or Jewish people it specifically represents the land of Israel, and always did.
Thoughts?
yours,
adam
ZOHAR August 8th, 2006, 12:09 AM i think Israeli flag
TheCat August 8th, 2006, 01:35 AM Of course it is the Israeli flag. It is completely irrelevant when it was conceived,
because it was designed specifically for the new Jewish state, i.e. Israel.
Jews do not have a "flag". However, the Israeli flag does contain a Jewish
symbol, namely the Star of David.
Kappa21 August 8th, 2006, 06:26 AM throughout history....the start of david was used to represent alot of aspects of the jewish religion and people affiliated to judaism....
if you go to places in Germany and such, synoguges, built in the 1300's have start of david on them..
6900 August 11th, 2006, 04:18 PM The New Flag of Israel
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/3054/untitled1tk5.jpg
Ben Hur August 11th, 2006, 05:15 PM The New Flag of Israel
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/3054/untitled1tk5.jpg
no we are not !!!!!!
Bikes August 11th, 2006, 05:38 PM The New Flag of Israel
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/3054/untitled1tk5.jpg
And you are banned i guess.
Krazy August 11th, 2006, 05:48 PM And you are banned i guess.
You are right
Herzeleid August 11th, 2006, 08:15 PM so many people talked crap about source and makkabi about oppening several accounts and now they are doing the same just to talk crap about israel =S
urbane August 11th, 2006, 08:24 PM Well yes, but Krazy deserves praise for acting promptly on this particular matter. Job well done !
Krazy August 11th, 2006, 08:45 PM I dont visit the Israeli forums often. So if nutjobs like these pop up again, PM me or RoM and let us know so we can take care of things.
Kurdistani August 11th, 2006, 11:50 PM The New Flag of Israel
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/3054/untitled1tk5.jpg
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/3908/untitled1tk5newul1.jpg
Gilgamesh August 11th, 2006, 11:52 PM http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/3908/untitled1tk5newul1.jpg
:lol:
Kappa21 August 12th, 2006, 12:38 AM People..lets respect other flags ok :)
Thanks for all your input..
Krazy..your the best :D
ZOHAR August 12th, 2006, 08:23 AM http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/3908/untitled1tk5newul1.jpg
:rofl:
sargon August 12th, 2006, 08:56 AM What does the two blue lines represent?
Herzeleid August 12th, 2006, 09:00 AM they represent the lines of the tallit!!!!
http://www.religionfacts.com/judaism/images/objects/tallit-hanger-sm.jpg
israeli flag is just beautiful!!!!! :)
Kappa21 August 12th, 2006, 05:50 PM What does the two blue lines represent?
its hard to say...
I think it means unity and devine of the jewish people..
Conspiracy therorist say its the line that will unite the Sinai all the way to the tigris river in Iraq...as they call it the proposed jewish state.....
Or something like that.....i think it ment tigris and eurphrates or something....long story behind that :)
ZOHAR August 12th, 2006, 05:51 PM Herzelaid is right
sargon August 12th, 2006, 06:15 PM its hard to say...
I think it means unity and devine of the jewish people..
Conspiracy therorist say its the line that will unite the Sinai all the way to the tigris river in Iraq...as they call it the proposed jewish state.....
Or something like that.....i think it ment tigris and eurphrates or something....long story behind that :)
This is what we really know about i.e The limits of greater Israel Nile & Tigris so it is not?? :) :)
AntonAmeneiro August 12th, 2006, 06:35 PM It's no doubt the Israeli flag, which btw I love :) I hope I'll be able to find one around here to buy and place it in my room, hehe.
Kappa21 August 12th, 2006, 06:37 PM It's no doubt the Israeli flag, which btw I love :) I hope I'll be able to find one around here to buy and place it in my room, hehe.
I had a spanish car in the world cup:D
Kappa21 August 12th, 2006, 06:38 PM This is what we really know about i.e The limits of greater Israel Nile & Tigris so it is not?? :) :)
well no...
cause they did it and tried to impose it...
just like the protocols of zion book.....
Audiomuse August 12th, 2006, 07:50 PM Israeli Flag for me. Kurdistani--That was hilarious! "At least we speak English" ----LOL :)!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AntonAmeneiro August 12th, 2006, 08:05 PM I had a spanish car in the world cup:D
A SEAT? :) Which one?
Kappa21 August 13th, 2006, 12:10 AM A SEAT? :) Which one?
I ment a spanish FLAG on my CAR...
i dont like inferior european cars...
we are North Americans..We demand the best...
not something small that breaks down along the road :D
heheh seat..i was thinking about that car this week ;)
AntonAmeneiro August 13th, 2006, 02:41 AM I don't like American cars... as most of Europeans, hehe :)
I'm not a big fan of Seat anyway, but they do have some cars that are very popular, like Seat León:
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/2433/01np9.jpg
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/1313/pic01ks2.jpg
Kappa21 August 13th, 2006, 02:51 AM ^^ its a nice car to be honest with you..
I see them only when i go to Israel...
In Canada/USA we dont have Opel, Renault, Citreon, Seat, Dhaitsu, Skoda and the list just goes bigger...
Anton Maiden...nothing like 320 Horse Power of pure American Steele is what you need :D
http://www.motorcities.com/media/image/640/05HS8054216803A/2006-Ford-Mustang-Eleanor-Body-Kit-Gone-in-60-Seconds-or-Less!-A-640.jpeg
G-d Bless America :)
Herzeleid August 13th, 2006, 02:57 AM jeeeeeesus christ kappa, what a beauty!!!!!!! i want one of those :) maybe for hanukka!!!! :D:D
AntonAmeneiro August 13th, 2006, 03:07 AM Hahaha, American cars are so ugly... I mean, look at that, it's completely tasteless :) besides, why do you need all that horse power if your speed limits are even lower than ours? :D Doesn't make sense to me... but hey man, if you like that car, I respect it!
Btw, Dahiatsu is not European but Asian :)
Kappa21 August 13th, 2006, 03:57 AM jeeeeeesus christ kappa, what a beauty!!!!!!! i want one of those :) maybe for hanukka!!!! :D:D
YEA WHY NOT!!
YOUR LITTLE PAL HUGO CHAVEZ IS MAKING IT HARD FOR POEPLE TO OWN REAL AMERICAN CLASS CARS :mad:
my japanese is fuel effecient, cause i cannot pay 1.20 per litre and you pay like 20 cents a litre :mad:
theives!!!!! :mad:
Kappa21 August 13th, 2006, 03:58 AM Hahaha, American cars are so ugly... I mean, look at that, it's completely tasteless :) besides, why do you need all that horse power if your speed limits are even lower than ours? :D Doesn't make sense to me... but hey man, if you like that car, I respect it!
Btw, Dahiatsu is not European but Asian :)
Its the beast from the EAST (michigan) :)
when you have control of a V6, 320 HP, dual exhaust, twin cam baby :)
you will understand :)
but i like ur small cars...
very nice sometimes.....
i just like control :)
AntonAmeneiro August 13th, 2006, 03:58 AM Here's the old Kappa back with all his anger, hehehe :)
Kappa21 August 13th, 2006, 04:34 AM Here's the old Kappa back with all his anger, hehehe :)
Anger is beauty...
Anger is art...
Anger is the only way for peace and calm!!!!!!!!! :cucumber: :tongue: :bleep:
Like they said..
you cant get humus without smashing chick pease!!!!!! :bash:
DIE YOU CHICK PEASE!!!!! NO PEACE WITH CHICK PEASE :D
AntonAmeneiro August 13th, 2006, 02:46 PM Someone call a mod?
Redalinho August 13th, 2006, 03:41 PM http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d4/Flag_of_Israel.svg/440px-Flag_of_Israel.svg.png
The flag of the State of Israel is intended to portray a Star of David on a tallit, the traditional Jewish prayer shawl.
The Israelites used an indigo colored dye called tekhelet; this dye is now believed to have been made from the snail murex trunculus. This dye was very important in both Jewish and non-Jewish cultures of this time, and was used by royalty and the upper class in dyeing their clothing, sheets, curtains, etc. (The dye from a related snail can be processed to form Tyrian purple called argaman.)
In the Torah, the Israelites are commanded to dye one of the threads of their tallit (prayer shawl) with tekhelet; when they look at this dye they will think of the blue sky, and of the God above them in Heaven. Tekhelet corresponds to the color of the divine revelation (Midrash Numbers Rabbah xv.). Sometime near the end of the Talmudic era (500-600 CE) the industry that produced this dye collapsed. It became more rare; over time the Jewish community lost the tradition of which species of shellfish produced this dye. Since Jews were then unable to fulfil this commandment, they have since left their tzitzit (tallit strings) white. However, in remembrance of the commandment to use the tekhelet dye, it became common for Jews to have blue or purple stripes on their tallit
While this flag emphasizes Jewish religious symbols, Theodor Herzl wanted the flag to have more universal symbols: 7 golden stars symbolizing the 7-hour working quota of the enlightened state-to-be, which would have advanced socialist legislations.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Israel
Seal of Solomon
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=384222
everythingisone August 13th, 2006, 03:46 PM i'm sorry, is that a flag ?
no offence, but if you call that piece of trash FLAG, then you should see my underwear.
:jk:
Let us know when you are old enough to stop wearing diapers.
Saigoneseguy November 11th, 2006, 08:27 AM Hahaha, American cars are so ugly... I mean, look at that, it's completely tasteless :) besides, why do you need all that horse power if your speed limits are even lower than ours? :D Doesn't make sense to me... but hey man, if you like that car, I respect it!
Btw, Dahiatsu is not European but Asian :)
No! they are not. they are full of charm. ...when u hit the road with one, you become a racer, become a skydiver or something else out of your routine self. They are made to convey dreams. Most european cars are just funny looking, mundane vehicles that makes you want to take the bus instead of driving. :)
jimjohn January 29th, 2007, 07:25 AM On this subject, the Israeli national anthem is splendid, I adore it
ZOHAR January 29th, 2007, 09:11 PM ^^yeah,it is,thanx;)
Hebrewtext February 6th, 2007, 12:40 AM On this subject, the Israeli national anthem is splendid, I adore it
Hatikvah - the national anthem
http://tali-bg.jerusalem.muni.il/friends/hatikva.html
shayan February 23rd, 2007, 03:09 PM meh,,, i dislike the israeli flag for the same reason i hate the current Iranian flag..
Urban Legend March 22nd, 2007, 11:22 PM It Israeli flag as a flag of a jewish state.
this flag is not represent arabs or non jews
TalB March 23rd, 2007, 02:36 AM I never understood this thread either. Just b/c there is a Star of David on the flag of Israel, does not mean that it's a Jewish theocracy. Turkey is a secular nation yet it still shows the crescent and star, symbols of Islam, on its flag. Also, Englands flag has the St Andrews Cross, but it's not a theocracy either. Therefore, religous symbols mean nothing on a flag.
ZOHAR March 23rd, 2007, 03:26 PM also Sweden,Denmark and almost half of the countries...
Giladist March 23rd, 2007, 11:27 PM ^^ and Finland, Norway, Switzerland, Greece... Theocracies?! ahahha :lol:
ZOHAR March 24th, 2007, 12:13 AM meh,,, i dislike the israeli flag for the same reason i hate the current Iranian flag..
and the reason is?
Urban Legend March 25th, 2007, 12:30 AM but don't forget that Israel is a jewish state
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