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waqar

June 24th, 2005, 12:25 AM

Mercedes cars will be produced in Pakistan! :eek:

DUBAI - Coastal Group of UAE and Daimler Chrysler of Germany have plans to invest around $3 billion in hydel power generation and automobile sector to produce Mercedes Benz cars and trucks in Pakistan. This would be the ever biggest foreign investment in the history of Pakistan.

As many as $2 billion will be invested in hydel power generation to overcome power shortage in Pakistan while approximately $1 billion will be poured in automobile sector of the country to set up a production plant for Mercedes Benz cars and trucks, sources revealed it to Khaleej Times yesterday.
In this connection, a six member delegation of M/s Daimler Chrysler of Germany and Coastal Group of UAE yesterday held a meeting with Pakistani Minister of State for Privatisation & Investment Umar Ahmad Ghuman in Islamabad and discussed the business opportunities.
The business group which discussed the business plans comprises chairman Coastal Group of UAE Yusuf Najibi, senior vice-president Daimler Chrysler Peter Grosch, SVP Daimler Chrysler Martin Daum, SVP ZF Friedrichshafen AG Dr. Thomas Hegel, Head of ZF Friedrichshafen Hans P. Transmission, Chairman & CEO FFG Flensburg AG Norbert Erichsen. Other senior officials of BoI also attended the meeting.
As per details, the group will produce trucks for defence forces during the first phase and set up a production line for two new economical models of Mercedes Benz cars in addition to constructing the tallest high-rise “international commercial city” for offices and show rooms for MNCs. However, in the second phase, they will start manufacturing commercial trucks.
According to the sources, the group was persuaded to come to Pakistan by the Pakistan Minister of State for Privatisation & Investment Umar Ahmad Ghuman who held series of formal and informal discussions with the top management of the group.
Assuring full cooperation on behalf of Government of Pakistan as well as the Board of Investment (BoI), the minister pointed out that the presence of more than 600 foreign companies in Pakistan, out of which 300 are MNCs and the return on equity which ranges from 30 per cent to 40 per cent that proves that Pakistan is a place where business environment is conducive.
He further informed the group that no foreign company in Pakistan has gone back because of losses.
"Pakistan is a gateway to Central Asian Republics and offer tremendous opportunities to make it a hub for export," he maintained.
"With the gradual improvement of law and order situation in Afghanistan, lucrative opportunities of export will be available to foreign investors to reach the European markets. The investment policy of Pakistan is liberal as compare to any country of the region," the minister concluded.

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:eek2: AUDI is coming to Pakistan
Well its official, now as Porsche has announcd they will be coming to Pakistan, it seems that AUDI has also officially decided to enter the country. They recently just lauched in India, and timing i suppose suggested to enter Pakistan now too. The offical agent for Pakistan is company based in Karachi, and they are now setting up their shop. I know they are hiring so maybe something one should look into. AUDI is part of VW, so i guess VW is next with these guys!

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Initially they will start with the following models:

A4 1.8T
A4 2.0
A6 2.4
A6 3.2 FSI
A8 3.2 FSI
A8 4.2 FSI quattro

I think after that they will go further into the:

A3 1.6 -1.8T range
RS4 4.2 V10 450bhp
RS6 4.2 V10 550bhp
Etc

The question will be the price, but I am sure they will do the same as in India,to be lower than MB and BMW

UnitedPakistan

June 24th, 2005, 05:02 AM

Everyone is coming to Pakistan lol i wish

Rkhan

June 24th, 2005, 06:47 AM

waqar

June 24th, 2005, 12:21 PM

This is amazing. I wonder if Audi is going to put a production plant as well or is it just selling audi cars in Pakistan? because..Mercedes is setting up a plant in pakistan. But porsche will only sell their cars in pakistan.

Does anyone know if BMW is putting a plant in pakistan? or are they just selling hteir cars under Deewan group?

KARACHI: Dewan Motors (Pvt) Ltd (DMPL), which began importing various models of BMW cars from Munich, Germany earlier this month and will formally launch in a few days time plans to begin local assembly of BMWs after 2006, a company source has said.

“At present we are importing all the models of BMW cars and are also providing all servicing facilities, including spare parts,” the source said. The launching will take place simultaneously in Karachi, Lahore and Islamabad.

He said that although the cars have not been officially launched yet, a demand for them has been seen in Karachi, Lahore and Islamabad.

“We are taking orders for all the latest models from the customers, and a number of vehicles have already been booked,” said the official. However, he refused to give the exact number of the vehicles booked so far.

He also said that the company is hiring well-experienced staff to look after the BMW vehicles in Pakistan, but refused to give the exact investment figure. An advertisement in the weekend newspapers from the group called for applications for ten positions.

Earlier, Redco group imported BMW cars till 1999, but after that there was no legal importer of BMW in the country.

The Dewan group entered the automobile area in December 1998. “Based on the experienced gained by managing assembling, marketing, selling and after-sales support of automobiles operations, the management of Dewan group set out to capture the luxurious BMW car segments, said the source.

According to unofficial figures, at present 600 to 700 BMW vehicles are plying on the country’s roads, as the vehicle is one of the expensive cars in the world.

“The main objective of the Dewan group is to bring all the latest models of BMW including 5-series, 7-series and others,” said the company official. “The group is also importing whole diagnostic equipments and software to diagnose the on-board problems on computers in the vehicles and other servicing facilities including fixing and others.”

Dewan Motors will open two showrooms for BMW in Karachi and Lahore, while it already has a showroom in Islamabad, the source said. He added that no dealer of any showroom would be involved in the selling of these vehicles in the country, as the country has decided to market the vehicles itself.

According to him, the prices of the different BMW models would range between Rs 4 million and Rs 15 million. “Of course the Pakistani people have the purchasing power to buy such luxury cars, and there is a demand of such vehicles here,” he said.

He said the company’s main focus is on the BMW models, adding that according to the survey done by the company, the demand of MINI is very low. “Some 20 to 30 year old MINI vehicles are plying on the roads of the country, but the people are not interested in importing new models of this vehicle,” he said. However, he added that the company would still import the latest models of MINI to market them here.

According to BMW, electrical and electronic systems are the key driving force behind some 90 percent of all the BMW groups’ innovations, and these technologies represent something of a “digital revolution” within the automotive industry and vehicle development.

x5 allready in Pakistan .. I have seen them in Lahore my self when I whent for holidays last year ..

X5 BMW
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Rkhan

June 25th, 2005, 04:50 AM

So assembly after 2006 eh! Thats nice.

pakboy

July 12th, 2005, 02:43 PM

UAE company to setup Mercedes plant

Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz has said that a UAE company will make investment to set up a Mercedes trucks assembly plant in Pakistan. He said this while briefing newsmen in the plane, about his meetings with the German Corporates in Frankfurt, after leaving for Berlin from Frankfurt. The meetings were organised by the Deutsche Bank.

The Prime Minister said that representatives of German company Daimler Chrysler (Mercedes-Benz) has told him that they are in contact with a UAE company, and soon the local partners in Pakistan, Daimler Chrysler and the UAE company would start work on the feasibility of the project.

Shaukat said that Pakistan is investing more in order to develop the infrastructure, which is the main engine for economic growth. The investors are realising that with improved infrastructure there would be more freight movement. Thus trucking lines would be established and that is why Mercedes is planning to establish a truck assembly plant in Pakistan with investment from UAE company.

The Prime Minister said that he had asked the Deutsche Bank to increase its capital in Pakistan to expand its operations, to which, he said, Juregen Fitschen, member, executive committee of the Bank, agreed.

He said that he had also met with the representatives of MTU Engineering and discussed co-operation in defence and security equipment and other engineering sectors.

He said he also met Helmet Schopf, President of Raytheon, the company involved in engineering, air engines, turbines and energy generators, for establishing working relations with Pakistan, specially in the fields of 'Alternative Energy' producing mechanism, in which Germany is the leader.

He said that he also met Dr Bernd from GTZ, the German government arm that provides technical assistance for vocational training and technical skills development.

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sher-e-lahore

August 10th, 2005, 01:48 AM

New vehicle - Alaf - alternative to rickshaw
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KARACHI, July 28: Sindh Governor Dr Ishratul Ibad Khan has described the locally manufactured four-wheeler ‘Alaf’ as the best alternative to rickshaw and appreciated its designing and model.

Because of its low price and being more secure than rickshaw and safe from creating pollution, this vehicle was described as useful for the city.

A presentation about this green-colour vehicle, built with Chinese technology, was given by the chief executive of the Transmission Motor Company, Fasih Hussain Agha.

On the occasion, Provincial Industries Minister Adil Siddiqi, Minister for Environment and Alternative Energy Noman Saigal, DIG for Traffic Falak Khurshid, and Secretary for Transport Nasar Hayat were also present.

The governor was informed that TMC Alaf Green Can was in fact an alternative to rickshaw manufactured with 200cc single cylinder water cool (4 stroke) engine. It can operate on CNG and petrol and having a seating capacity for four, including driver.

It is front engine and rear wheel drive with protection level higher than auto rickshaw.

It was stated that with the steel body and roll gauge, the vehicle was quite strong.

It does not create noise during start of engine and running and can cover 25km in a litre. It does not emit carbon mono oxide and, therefore, causes no pollution.

Noman Saigal and the DIG traffic appreciated the vehicle while Governor Ishratul Ibad Khan described it secure and useful for people and assured all possible cooperation of the government.

This vehicle will have its assembly plant in Karachi and has approval from the Engineering Development Board. It has been proposed to operate this vehicle initially only in Karachi at a fare of Rs6 per km.

Its dealership process is going on and its price has been proposed at Rs150,000 without any tax with delivery in 90 days.—APP

The Introduction of CNG as Alternative Fuel
for Two-stroke Vehicles
Autorickshaw Demonstration Project
in Pakistan
Speaking Notes
WAHEED KHAN
International Program Manager
Department of Environment
Government of Canada
Ottawa, Canada K1A 0H3
Waheed.Khan@ec.gc.ca
Asian Development Bank
Regional Workshop
Reduction of Emissions from 2-3 Wheelers
September 5-7, 2001, Hanoi, Vietnam
Check Against Delivery
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Ladies & Gentlemen
It is a great pleasure for me to share with you our findings and
experience about two-stroke vehicles, particularly autorickshaws. I would
like to commend our host, the Asian Development Bank and its partners,
including the World Bank, the US Asia Environment Partnership and the
Ministry of Transportation Vietnam Register who took the initiative to bring
us together at this regional forum.
We all share a common interest in a healthier environment, and are
working together on how best to achieve that goal. Transportation is the
backbone of any modern economy. Revolving wheel is the universal sign
of economic progress. Let’s join hands to keep the wheels of progress
moving on the right path; the healthier path. I will use the accompanying
PowerPoint presentation.
•What is the problem?
The three-wheel auto-rickshaws are abundantly available in South
Asia. They are powered by two-stroke engines and lubricating oil is directly
mixed with gasoline while filling the fuel tank. Bajaj in India and Vespa in
Pakistan are perhaps the largest producers of these particular vehicles in
South Asia although many others have joined in the recent years. The
vehicle is particularly suited to the narrow and crowded city streets in large
population centres due to its light-weight and excellent maneuverability.
Most repairs and routine maintenance are carried out by the operators
themselves thanks to its simple design.
The major disadvantage of the 2-stroke engine is its high level of
emissions, especially particulate matter resulting from un-burnt lubricant
and gasoline. Scavenging losses occur when the engine is drawing in the
air/fuel mix while also exhausting the combustion gases from the previous
combustion event. A portion of the incoming fuel-oil mixture is exhausted
with the combustion gases in raw form. These emissions in turn clog the
muffler very quickly, causing the rickshaws to experience power loss and
engine heat-up. The operators respond in two ways: 1) they increase the
amount of lubricant used, up to 12% compared with 2% recommended by
the manufacturers. To reduce their increased lubricating costs, they resort
to using sub-standard lubricating oil. This response feeds the problem
instead of solving it; 2) they remove the muffler and replace it with a locally

manufactured model which has hardly noise reduction partitions. It causes
a tremendous amount of noise pollution.
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•What are the alternatives?
Like vehicular pollution generated by cars, the long term solution lies
in improved, efficient and cleaner engines which would replace the existing
technology. Traffic management, stricter monitoring regimes and increase
in the role of public transportation are natural solutions. An effective
Inspection & Maintenance (I&M) program should be part of any solution.
The case of two-stroke vehicles, however, is somewhat different than
other vehicles. They are used mostly by poor people for whom finding
affordable transportation is an overwhelming priority. Rickshaws are used
as taxis and their clientele is primarily from lower income groups. The
numbers of vehicles are staggering, running into millions. There useful life
is quite long, running into as much as 30 years. That means vehicles sold
during the past five years could be around for another 25 years. While
phasing out these vehicles is certainly desirable, the process will take a
long time unless drastic actions are taken, either by buying out the owners
(which will require huge sums of money), or banning the vehicles (which
will cause considerable hardship to the poor owners and operators).
Therefore, a short-term or interim solution such as the use of cleaner
alternative fuels including Compressed Natural Gas (CNG) and Liquefied
Natural Gas (LPG) is highly desirable.
•How are we helping?
Canada is involved in demonstration projects in Bangladesh, Egypt,
India and Pakistan. Environment Canada is working with a Canadian
company, Yugo-Tech Inc. to optimize and demonstrate a technology to
convert two-stroke rickshaws and motorcycles to operate on Compressed
natural gas (CNG) and Liquefied Petroleum Gas (LPG) depending upon
local availability of the fuel. These efforts are partly funded by Canada’s
Technology Early Action Measures fund (TEAM) and the Canadian
International Development Agency (CIDA). Public awareness, training and
institutional capacity development for monitoring and controlling vehicular
emissions and creating enabling environment for rewarding cleaner options
constitute integral part of these demonstration projects.
•Is the solution technically viable?
We have converted 60 rickshaws in Pakistan since November 2000
which are being monitored by the local EPA staff for technical and
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environmental performance. The owner-operators of these rickshaws were
selected from a group of volunteers who had the option to have their CNG
kits removed at no cost to them. Some did opt out because CNG refueling
stations are still not as widely available as gasoline filling stations.
However, the kits were reinstalled in rickshaws which were on the short-list.
Users have got the hang of the technology and initial fears of starting
trouble, engine heat up and power loss have been overcome. As before,
the rickshaws are by and large maintained by the owner-operators
themselves.
It is commonly assumed that CNG reduces a vehicle’s power.
Although this is a common observation in retrofitted cars also, it should not
necessarily be the case. CNG is a more powerful fuel than gasoline. Its
octane number is 130 compared with 87 for normal grade gasoline. We
were surprised to learn that a local rickshaw owner, who had a family
owned repair shop in Lahore, increased the compression ratio of his
rickshaw to match the more powerful CNG. When we checked its
compression power, it was more than five horsepower, slightly more than a
brand new gasoline operated rickshaw!
•Is it economically viable & socially desirable?
In Pakistan, an average rickshaw operating two shifts of eight hours
each consumes 10 litres of gasoline in one day costing Rs. 330. To travel
the same distance, the same rickshaw consumes two cylinders of CNG,
costing no more than Rs. 150. That is a saving of Rs. 180 per day in fuel
costs.
An average rickshaw consumes one litre of lubricating oil per day.
To save money, low quality cheaper lubricant is used which still costs the
operator Rs. 45. A CNG operated rickshaw needs one-quarter lubricating
oil. If the rickshaw uses high quality T-2 oil meant for two-stroke engines, it
costs Rs. 25 per day, saving the operator another Rs. 20 per day. In terms
of operating costs, an average rickshaw reduces its fuel plus lubricating
costs by 53% from Rs. 375 to Rs. 175.
After allowing for the cost of ownership of the rickshaw or its daily
rental of Rs. 100 per day, we found that the operator’s net daily income
increased by 100 % from Rs. 200 to Rs. 400. Please note that the
amounts we are talking about are very small in absolute terms, highlighting
the financial vulnerability of the rickshaw operators, which must be taken
into consideration while considering options to address the environmental
issue.
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We have been closely interacting with the volunteer rickshaw owners
and here is one example: These three brothers (shown in the slide) own
one rickshaw which they operate in three shifts. The family, including their
respective wives and children and their father who is blind, are dependant
on this rickshaw. Their fourth brother is unemployed and looks around for
odd jobs every day. For them, this project is the most effective poverty
alleviation project. This is the first environmental initiative in which the
participants can gain financially rather than face punitive action. They are
asking for loan for another rickshaw, operated on CNG!
Pakistan is dependent on imported fuel since domestic production is
far less than its requirements. On the other hand, natural gas is locally
produced and is abundantly available to meet the needs of the
transportation sector. As a result, the national and provincial governments
in Pakistan are fully supporting the initiative and we are enjoying
tremendous cooperation.
•Is it environment-friendly?
CNG (and LPG) are well known cleaner alternative fuels, and I do
not need to quote specific emission numbers. The emissions of total
hydrocarbons (THC) are not only reduced but the ratio of its more toxic
components such as Volatile Organic Compounds and smog precursors is
also significantly reduced. In countries where leaded gasoline is still being
used, CNG automatically eliminates lead from emissions. As I have
mentioned before, the rickshaws operating on the roads generate a lot
more emissions than a well tuned two-stroke engine should, because the
problem feeds on itself, exacerbating the adverse environmental
repercussions.
Due to controlled mixing of lubricating oil in the gas (CNG), the
emission of particulate matter, which is receiving increased attention due to
its adverse health impact, is drastically reduced. A recent study of air
quality in Pakistan found that the concentration of particulate matter in the
air in Lahore was 895 micrograms per cubic meter, 8 times higher than the
WHO standard of 120. Interestingly enough, one of the major obstacles
we had to overcome initially was the lack of tailpipe smoke. We had to
reassure the rickshaw operators that the CNG converted rickshaws were
generating power without generating visible smoke! Tailpipe smoke was
seen as an indicator that the rickshaw was healthy!!
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CNG drastically reduces the emission of harmful and toxic
substances such as carbon monoxide; another air quality study funded by
the World Bank found that urban air pollution was causing US $369 million
to Pakistan’s economy.
•What is needed now?
Ladies and gentlemen, we need to move forward to integrate our
environmental agenda with our poverty alleviation agenda, and our equity
agenda. While we have put together funding mechanisms which allows
major industries to access funds for innovation, upgradation and
modernization to clean up, the owners of autorickshaws have no access to
institutional credit, such as microfinance. They are dependent upon noninstitutional
sources of credit with extremely high interest rates.
Commercial banks would not lend them money. The reasons are not
difficult to find; they are on ADB’s webpage! I reproduce them for you:
About 90% of the 180 million poor households in the region still lack
access to institutional financial services. Most formal financial
institutions deny the poor financial services because of
• perceived high risks
• high costs involved in small transactions
• the poor's inability to provide marketable collateral for loans
I urge you, our host the ADB in particular, to include rickshaw
conversion costs eligible for the microfinance programs in Asia, supported
by ADB and other development finance institutions.
Thank you all.

sher-e-lahore

August 10th, 2005, 01:59 AM

Auto Rickshaw is a cultural heritage. Its not a thing of India, Pakistan, Thailand or other places. It's global. Some call it three-wheeler, some as pedicab, some as auto-rickshaw and pakistanis like me call it awami sawari !

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An auto rickshaw (auto or rickshaw in popular parlance) is a vehicle for hire that is one of the chief modes of transport in India, Pakistan, Nepal, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka and is popular in many other countries. It is a motorized version of the traditional rickshaw, a small two- or three-wheeled cart pulled by a person, and the velotaxi. The auto rickshaw is also related to its Thai cousin, the tuk-tuk and the becak (Bajaj) in Indonesia.

In India and Pakistan, Rickshaw is part of our culture. Millions of people travel in it throughout the year. Rickshaw has its own fun and humour associated with it. In Karachi, one of the worlds most populated cities, Rickshaw is an active means of public transport. People, specially those from pakistani or indian origin and born outside the country, or the foreign visitors find Rickshaw particularly amusing and amazing. We, the indians and pakistanis have a class and culture of our own. So we find humour in things which could be weird to outsiders. Like Rickshaw itself is associated with a lots of humours. They are well decorated, so much that sometimes you have to appreciate the artist behind all those paintings and craftsmanship. The hanging pieces of metallic artwork, the one thousand mirrors inside (which generally the drivers use to have a really "good" glimpse of particularly female passengers), the hoardings, slogans, poetry, phrases and banners at the back of the Rickshaw. Infact those hoardings and banners have sparked people from time to time to quote them down; there are examples of things that can be seen at the back of rickshaw and even a rickshaw blog can be found, dedicated to the paintings and slogans at the back of Rickshaw.

Here is some foreigner sitting in a rickshaw who decided to capture himself in all those glaring mirrors:

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There are basically two major types of auto-rickshaws seen on the streets of major cities like Bombay, Karachi, Delhi, Lahore, among others. In India, mostly they use that black and yellow painted old styled rickshaw, which is also available in parts of Karachi. I personally prefer to call that as "maryal" rickshaw. because the colors of it are so depressing and gives the rickshaw a really old 1940's look. If you are in a rush, you'ld never want to get yourself seated in one of those things. It could refuse to climb a bridge (as infact it did for me once in Karachi) and could take more than hours to reach your destination. So i preferred to use the modern "blue" colored new rickshaws whenever i needed one. The old black rickshaw is like this:

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To most people in Karachi and Lahore who prefer to take public transport, Rickshaw seems to be the ride of choice. As some say it even beats the new air-conditioned buses because of fresh air and the ability to enter narrow streets. The fun starts when you sit in and the driver pulls the "danda" at his left bottom side, to start the Rickshaw. It makes a grinding tak-tak-tak noise similar to what concorde would make before a take-off. And best part, like some Rickshaw drivers have it written under their seat "Pilot Seat" so they can make that thing literally "fly" if you just pay them 10 to 15 Rs. extra. They can go to a super-sonic speed believe me ! you have to make sure you are holding the "hanging heart" from the side railing firmly, or a sharp turn can throw you out of the Rickshaw. And not to mention those bumps you get on your head when everytime it hits a road bump, your head makes it even by hitting the rod on the top of your head. In Lahore, most people call it "Chaand Gari" or "Ching-Chee" which is originally from China "Quing Qui" (pronounced ching-chee), these are now adopted in Lahore's workshop and basically any Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki can be modified. Most of the Rickshaw are from the Italian company Vespa. The Vespa Gallery shows one of the original designs.

Rickshaw does not necessarily have to be sober. Some parts, specially in Lahore or faisalabad etc. you can find really decorated Rickshaws like some photographer captured below

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If you are into technical stuff, then it might interest you that a Mississauga based Canadian Company Yugo-Tech has developed a gaseous fuel injection system for the two stroke engine, and is working with Pakistani government to help reduce toxic emissions from the Auto Rickshaw. If you want to build you own LEGO Rickshaw, this might help. There is a Rickshaw Forum where you can discuss things about Rickshaw. If you are an engineer, you can even find some plans / blueprints / designs for a indian rickshaw (plan1, plan2, plan3, plan4). Hell, you can even play your own Rickshaw game online.

There could be so many things said about Rickshaw. The excitement, the fun, the humour, the ride, the mirrors. Infact, its not even a thing of India, Pakistan or South Asia. Like I said its global. You can find Rickshaw in Sweden, Germany, UK, Columbia, USA and even a Canadian selling Rickshaw and spare wheels on ebay. Here you see some Germans in a modified three wheeler Rickshaw:

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Well, it doesnt end here. You can find stamps of countries appreciating the man-driven cycle Rickshaws and auto rickshaws. You can even find street signs about Rickshaws !

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But here is the best part.. you can even get married in an Auto Rickshaw ! Like the UK firm which rents Rickshaw says,

Starcarhire wrote:
Arrive in true exotic style in your very own Tuk Tuk or Auto Rickshaw. Feel the breeze and experience the freedom of riding this fantastic vehicle which enjoys legendary status throughout Asia. Top speed 40 mph with room for 2/3 in the back.

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Some things never fail to amuse me ..

huit

August 10th, 2005, 10:48 AM

I see absolutely no difference between Alaf and the conventional rickshaws seen on Pak roads...

dost_4u

August 10th, 2005, 10:21 PM

any photo of alif

sher-e-lahore

August 10th, 2005, 11:22 PM

Please update on any Pics on Alif thank you guys Iam trying to get pics but no luck yet anyone can please post them here thank you.

August 11th, 2005, 07:27 AM

Thats not the 'Alaf' in the pictures posted in this thread, its just a regular Rickshaw.

I cant find pictures myself, there should have been a picture issued by the Newspapers in regards to the news earlier, but I guess not.

dost_4u

August 14th, 2005, 11:12 PM

Did anyone have read any thing more about ALAF or seen picture. I really want to see that, a replacement for those ugly rikshaws.

Sultan

August 21st, 2005, 03:47 AM

Renault short-lists 8 vendors in Pakistan

ISLAMABAD (August 21 2005): French auto giant Renault has short-listed around eight vendors in Pakistan for buying locally produced parts for its upcoming assembling facility in Pakistan.

Sources in the Industries and Production Ministry confirmed that the company has selected eight to ten vendors for procurement of its locally manufactured parts. We are expecting Renault to roll out their first locally assembled vehicle by January 2007, they added.

They maintained that the French automakers already working indirectly with a Pakistani auto assembler Gandhara-Nissan, as Nissan is wholly owned subsidiary of Renault at global level.

An auto industry consultant while talking to APP said that Renault and other new companies should be allowed to start local assembling with at least 60 percent localisation. He said that with 12 percent assembling, cost addition of only tyres, seats, some of the plastic parts and disposal inputs may take the localise ratio to 40 percent. Should the assembling be allowed with 40 percent indigenisation, the local auto engineering industry would have the least benefit from it, he added.

He was of the view that currently the maximum localisation level in any model of car in Pakistan is around 72 percent, while a local brand, which is yet to roll over on road, is claiming 77 percent localisation. In this way, 60 percent localisation requirement for Renault and other new companies would be a fair deal, he added.

Copyright Associated Press of Pakistan, 2005

gucci_london

August 21st, 2005, 10:58 PM

SURE

Intoxication

August 22nd, 2005, 12:39 AM

SURE

Do i sense jealousy from a spoilt little 3G Brit Indian.

Rkhan

August 22nd, 2005, 05:15 AM

^ please we dont want none of tat.
Peace!

Gumnaam

August 22nd, 2005, 03:29 PM

^^ sure we don't want but it seems some always want it from the other side all the time.

Sultan

August 25th, 2005, 04:00 PM

Porsche to Start Selling Cars in Pakistan

.c The Associated Press

STUTTGART, Germany (AP) - German luxury sportscar maker Porsche will next year start selling cars in Pakistan, the company said in a statement Wednesday.

Starting in the first quarter of 2006, Porsche will open a showroom in Lahore, with an eye toward soon expanding into Islamabad and Karachi.

The company said it has signed contracts with Pakistani importer Autotechnik Pvt. Ltd.

Porsche has expended its international presence from 40 to some 90 countries over the past 10 years.

Sultan

August 25th, 2005, 04:00 PM

Porsche to expand presence in Pakistan

LAHORE: George Wills, Regional Operations Manager of Porsche, said on Wednesday that Porsche Middle East & Africa had decided to expand its presence into the highly anticipated Pakistani market.

Addressing a media briefing at a local hotel, he said a Porsche Centre would be opened by the mid of 2006 and its local partner, Autotechnik Pvt (Ltd), would start operations in Lahore in accordance with Porsche’s strict corporate guidelines and would incorporate sales and after sales services.

The long-term objective would focus on opening further centres in Islamabad and Karachi, he added. staff report

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http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?p...5-8-2005_pg5_14 (http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_25-8-2005_pg5_14)

Sultan

August 25th, 2005, 04:01 PM

Porsche to land in Pakistan

RECORDER REPORT

LAHORE (August 25 2005): Deesch Papke Porsche Middle East & Africa Managing Director in a ceremony here on Wednesday has announced more regional growth of the company by expanding its presence into highly anticipated Pakistani market through appointing its importer, Autotechnik Pvt Ltd'.

Papke confident of Pakistani market averred that 'Porsche', the world renowned car would enter local market in November, current year. He said the company that has its car plying in 17 markets was in the regional expansion campaign and its entry into Pakistani market was in sequence of that, he added.

He averred that to be in Pakistan was a long time objective of the company. The Managing Director announced that 'Porsche customers would get a solid 'support in spares and service around the year.

He said Áutotechnik Pvt Ltd represented by three Pakistani entrepreneurs Abu Zar Bokhari (Chairman), Attique Ahmed (CEO) and Faisal Farooq Director would commence operations with the first Porsche's Centre Lahore during first quarter 2006. The company's centres would be established at Karachi and Islamabad by next year, he added.

Abuzar Bokhari Chairman speaking on the occasion said that first batch of Porsche 's would reach the country within weeks. He said quarter of sales of the car has already been booked for year 2006 here. He said the car that has 50-year legacy is currently enjoying the success of its latest and youngest sports car generations, the Boxter and 911 Carrera series, which were received with outstanding response from customers worldwide. In addition, the Cayenne is still enjoying strong demand in the region, a trend that is expected to continue in Pakistani market, he added.

Talking about 'Ceyenne', Abuzar said it was a true sports car. "It is nimble and safe and is a perfect car for local road conditions and climate", he added.

The Porsche's function besides other audience was attended by a large number of journalists that were entertained to a movie of Porsche model exhibiting its excellence on the road on the occasion.

Copyright Business Recorder, 2005

Sultan

August 25th, 2005, 04:02 PM

From the official Porsche website...

http://www3.me.porsche.com/english/pme/dea...stan/lahore.htm (http://www3.me.porsche.com/english/pme/dealer/pakistan/lahore.htm)

Sultan

August 25th, 2005, 04:03 PM

Porsche Pakistan Website

http://www.porschecentre.com.pk

zees

August 25th, 2005, 04:45 PM

Porsche is very expansive

Tagga

August 25th, 2005, 08:49 PM

^I think they will introduce only the Boxter series (it will cost no more than 3m so it will be a good idea to introduce it here) and the Cayenne (if its cheaper than the other SUV's in Pakistan).

Sania

August 26th, 2005, 09:10 AM

porsche is going to introduce their first car in november this year at Lahore.the director of company said that they will also introduce world class sports cars in pakistan and pakistani people will wonder to see their modern cars.

pakpak93

August 27th, 2005, 01:24 PM

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Dubai. Porsche Middle East & Africa is delighted to announce more regional growth by expanding its presence into the highly anticipated Pakistani market through appointing its importer, “Autotechnik Pvt. Ltd.” Represented by three Pakistani entrepreneurs, Abuzar Bokhari (Chairman), Attique Ahmed (CEO) and Faisal Farooq (Director Finance), Autotechnik will start operations with the first Porsche Centre in Lahore (Autotechnik Pvt. Ltd. Trading as Porsche Centre Lahore) according to Porsche’s strict corporate identity guidelines, and will incorporate sales and after sales services. The long-term objective will focus on opening further centres in Islamabad and Karachi.

Commenting on Porsche’s venture into the Pakistani market, Deesch Papke, Managing Director of Porsche Middle East & Africa, said: “Appointing our importer in Pakistan holds special significance, as it extends our presence into an untapped potential market, where Porsche is bound to prosper. Partnering with a resourceful company such as “Autotechnik”, which has the creative mindset to ensure the success of Porsche in the market, is of paramount importance. When the first shipment of Porsche cars arrives in November, sports car aficionados will be treated to a true blend of Power and Passion never before witnessed in Pakistan.”

Abuzar Bokhari, Chairman of Porsche Centre Lahore Autotechnik Pvt. Ltd., stressed the significance of the upcoming challenge: “Autotechnik is proud to be selected by Porsche to lead its operations in this key market for Porsche. Our unique business culture of excellence and perfectionism matches that of Porsche, a combination that will help us exploit all of our resources to surpass even the most ambitious goals we have.”

“The opening of our first Porsche Centre is only months away, so the recruitment drive is well under way and a number of key positions have already been filled. In the mean time, new employees are attending Porsche technical and administration training; furthermore, all necessary specialist equipment orders have been placed while online support is already in progress.”

Bokhari further added that political stability and prudent economic management had led Pakistan to become one of the fastest growing economies in Asia. “Porsche’s presence in Pakistan testifies to the potential this market holds."

Porsche is currently enjoying the success of its latest and youngest sports car generations, the Boxster and 911 Carrera series, which were received with outstanding response from customers worldwide. In addition, the Cayenne is still enjoying strong demand in the region, a trend that is expected to continue in the Pakistani Market.

“The Cayenne is a true sports car. It is nimble and safe. It is a perfect car for Pakistani road conditions and climate - superbly suited to the Pakistani lifestyle. Most importantly, it offers sound and solid German engineering and reliability, like all our models.” Papke also added.

On the horizon, there is the introduction of the new all-wheel-drive model variants of the 911 Carrera, from October onwards to markets worldwide, which will further enhance the attractiveness of the 911 series. Of particular importance is the introduction of the all new mid-engined coupé Cayman S, which will be launched at the end of November. The addition of this model variant coupled with the ground-breaking scheduled introduction of the all-new Panamera four-door sports coupé in 2009, will enhance the breadth and depth of Porsche’s model range and power it confidently into the future.

Currently several prime locations are being assessed for the construction of Porsche Centre Lahore, and the opening date is scheduled to take place in the first quarter of 2006.

“We are confident that Porsche along with our partner “Autotechnik Pvt. Ltd.” will set the benchmark for the premium car segment in Pakistan.” Papke ended.

swerveut

August 27th, 2005, 06:59 PM

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This picture looks hot :guns1:

pakpak93

August 27th, 2005, 09:06 PM

Porsche importer, Autotechnik (Pvt) Limited, chairman Abuzar Bokhari said some 40 units would be imported during the first year. The first shipment is expected to land in Pakistan in November. He said as many as 11 Porsche cars had already been "sold".

link:http://au.news.yahoo.com/050826/3/vo5z.html

Sultan

August 27th, 2005, 09:59 PM

The Lahore Fort, and the Porsche logo look very good !

UnitedPakistan

September 9th, 2005, 08:45 PM

Why would u want the ricksha's gone?

They are part of our heritage and our culture we cant efface our culture it would be just plain wrong.

huit

September 9th, 2005, 10:54 PM

^ an ugly and noisy part of our culture... I would love to see them off the road aswell! This is one more area where Isloo scores over the rest of Pak cities.

sher-e-lahore

September 10th, 2005, 11:27 PM

Bulletproof Cars for VVIPs

THE government has decided to purchase a fleet of 30 high-priced bulletproof Mercedes Benz cars for selected federal ministers and other dignitaries, which will cost to the national ex-chequer more than Rs 3 billion.

It is believed that Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz has allowed the purchase of the Bullet Proof Cars and has sanctioned the amount. The Finance Ministry has also given its endorsement, which would be over and above of the budget allocation for 2004-05.

The top quality luxurious bulletproof Mercedes cars would cost Rs.100 million and would be imported from Germany which will include the remote control bomb jammer devices, so as to prevent the ministers and other dignitaries against any possible terrorist acts.

It is strange to note that there is no protection made for securing the lives of ordinary people in the country, whereas people’s representatives sitting on the treasury benches are enjoying all the facilities and would also be provided with bulletproof Mercedes Benz cars in order to secure their lives.

The government’s first job is to secure the masses and not the ministers and other dignitaries, who get their salaries from the treasury, when ordinary people pay their taxes. People elect their representatives during the national elections and thereafter these representatives become ministers. The ministers are also from the general masses. Therefore government should not differentiate between the lives of ordinary people and the ministers. Both are human beings and deserve protection.

How can a poor country like Pakistan afford to buy the expensive bulletproof Mercedes Benz cars for the self-protection of the ministers and other dignitaries when ordinary people are killed in the day light in various terrorist acts, which are taking place in the country every now and then?

President of Pakistan is requested to intervene in this matter and cancel the deal of importing bulletproof Mercedes Benz cars. The same amount should be spent on the public welfare projects in the country which are lying pending since ages.

The ministers and other dignitaries who are scared of their lives should devise a foolproof security plan by guiding the security agencies, so that an ordinary citizen of Pakistan as well as its ministers should be protected from further terrorist’s acts.●

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The transparent armor offers excellent protection against various ballistic threats and physical attack depending upon configuration. It meets or exceeds all U.L. 752 and N.I.J.0108.01 requirements to ensure the highest level of quality and performance. This product can be curved or flat and has many potential applications without the loss of optical clarity.

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Ballistic steel and nylon as well as run flat tire inserts are used to complete the total armoring of each vehicle.

Run Flat Tire Inserts
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Radiator Protection
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Battery Protection
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Fuel Tank Protection
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Feet Per Sec Grain
II* 9mm FMJ
.357 Mag SP
.38 Super Auto FMJ
1120
1450
1280
124
240
130

III .44 Mag SWC
.30 Carbine
12 Gauge Slug
1475
1990
1575
240
110
7/8 oz.

IV .30 Cal SP
7.62 x 51 NATO
5.56(.223) FMJ
7.62 x 39 FMJ
30.06 SP
2794
2700
2920
2550
2410
180
147
55
123
220

V* 5.56 (.223) AP
7.62 x 51 NATO AP
30.06 AP
7.62 x 39 AP
2920
2700
2410
2550
55
147
220
123

Abbreviations:
FMJ = Full Metal (copper) Jacket
SWC = Semi-wad Cutter, Gas Checked
SP = Soft (lead) Point
NATO = FMJ with Lead Core
AP = Armor Piercing (FMJ with Special Core)

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huit

September 11th, 2005, 08:24 AM

If they go on with the order then I hope these bastard VVIPs die in these bullet-proof cars!

swerveut

September 11th, 2005, 08:30 AM

I think it is a good thing because some government officers who are actually working good and on principle, they keep on receiving death threats from mafia lords and feudals and other buisnesses who are profiteering off of not abiding by the law. This might assure them some security, but now, they should lessen the number of police mobiles and cars that accompany every official.

sher-e-lahore

September 11th, 2005, 12:55 PM

Yeh I agree with you swerveut .. there are good ppls allways bad and good everywhere man ..

huit

September 17th, 2005, 08:17 PM

Alif cab car gets export orders

KARACHI: The manufacturer of Alif cab car, the Transmission Motor Company (TMC), has secured export orders from Bangladesh, Sudan, Egypt and Madagaskar.

According to a press release on Friday, chief executive officer TMC, Fasih H Agha, speaking at the Autoparts Exhibition (PAPS) 2005, said the TMC had appointed distributors in these four countries while Chile and Qatar have also placed export orders for Alif cars.

He said the company, a subsidiary of the Transmission Engineering Industries Ltd (TEIL), had a production capacity of 5000 cars per annum, which could be doubled, if needed. TEIL was also exporting gears and axils to a very high demanding and high performance parts market of USA, he added. “We have technical collaboration with a Chinese firm, which is providing 33 percent of components, while we are locally manufacturing 67 percent of them,” Mr Agha said. He said the green cab scheme had received a good response from rickshaw-owners and they were placing orders. He said Alif with the 200 cc engine was much cheaper than a rickshaw and environment-friendly too. staff report

Source: http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_17-9-2005_pg5_12

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Somebody try to get its picture... Why would a country like Qatar want such a horrible thing (if it looks similar to Rickshaws that is)

September 17th, 2005, 09:48 PM

^ It is quite ugly, I saw the picture in the newspaper a few days back.

UnitedPakistan

September 17th, 2005, 10:08 PM

I still think the riksha is part of our culture. The people who do not live in Pakistan know this for a fact as soon as they see a Pakistani riksha at display at high density Pakistani towns.

dost_4u

September 18th, 2005, 11:06 PM

:gaah: :gaah: :gaah: :gaah: :gaah:
But I cant find the Pic of ALAF.................................

sher-e-lahore

September 19th, 2005, 12:21 AM

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ISLAMABAD The Central Board of Revenue (CBR) has made mandatory the installation of 'vehicle identification number' (VIN) chip in the newly manufactured cars to ensure proper GST collection.

The CBR on Wednesday issued 'Special Procedure for collection and payment of sales tax on vehicles' through SRO 951(I)/2005 in consultation with cars manufacturers and National Database and Registration Authority (Nadra).

VIN chip is an identification device to be supplied by Nadra. The CBR will not permit 'input tax adjustment' in case vehicle is without VIN chip.

Sources told Business Recorder that the Board-in-Council has asked the sales tax department to devise a new procedure to ensure sales tax registration of all car dealers and importers.

The CBR has also issued new sales tax return-cum-payment challan for vehicles' dealers; monthly statement for the assemblers/importers of vehicles and delivery advice-cum-invoice.

Under the new procedure, unregistered manufacturers, importers and dealers of vehicles will have to obtain sales tax registration from the collector. Every manufacturer or importer of vehicles will have to declare to the collector full particulars of his dealers, and the collector shall ensure that no dealer of vehicles in his jurisdiction remains unregistered.

Elaborating the booking procedure, sources said that no vehicle shall be booked by the concerned manufacturer or importer through a dealer unless the particulars of such dealer and the concerned buyer are clearly mentioned in the relevant booking documents.

Each manufacturer or an importer who sells any vehicle through a dealer shall issue sales tax invoice in the name of the dealer mentioning full particulars of such dealer, and the dealer shall issue sales tax invoice in the name of the consumer. Provided that nothing shall bar any manufacturer or importer to issue consolidated sales tax invoice in the name of his dealer for more than one vehicle.

Where a manufacturer or an importer sells a vehicle directly to a consumer, sales tax invoice shall be issued in the name of the consumer.

In case where the vehicle is invoiced directly to customer through a dealer, the dealer shall issue a delivery advice-cum-invoice and hand over the same to the buyer at the time of delivery of the vehicle along with the invoice issued by the manufacturer or importer to the customer.

In case of old, used and second-hand vehicles sold by a dealer, whether after purchase or on behalf of any person from the public, the dealer shall issue a sales tax invoice taking 10 percent of the sale price of the vehicle plus the amount of commission, if any, as 'assessable value' and charge net sales tax accordingly.

Provided that where any old, used or second-hand vehicle is brought to any authority for transfer of the registration without the involvement of any dealer, sales tax at the aforesaid rate taking 10 percent of the declared purchase price as assessable value, shall be deposited by the transferee in the nearest branch of National Bank of Pakistan under the relevant head of account and proof of such payment shall be produced to the said authority before the transfer of registration is allowed.

Provided further that the said authority shall intimate the collector of sales tax of the jurisdiction figures of all such tax payments relating to a month by tenth of the succeeding month.

Where a manufacturer, an importer or a dealer is also engaged in the business of selling auto parts and auto repair including auto-wash, sales tax invoice shall also include auto-parts, spare parts and other taxable goods supplied or used in the course of such sales, repairs or washing. Provided that no sales tax shall be payable on the amount charged exclusively for the service rendered for repair or washing.

Highlighting the declaration of commissions, each manufacturer or importer would declare to the collector the rates of commission payable to his dealers in case of each category, make and model of vehicle and changes as and when made in these rates shall also be communicated to the collector within seven days.

Nothing shall prohibit the collector to ascertain or verify the accuracy of the declared rates or amounts of commissions and other information supplied under any of the provisions of this chapter.

The manufacturers, importers and dealers, shall be entitled to input tax adjustment in respect of tax-paid vehicles in terms of sections 7 and 8 of the Sales Tax Act.

The dealer shall not be entitled to any input tax adjustment or refund on any used, old and second-hand vehicle sold after purchase from any person or on behalf of any other person. No input tax adjustment shall be admissible in respect of a vehicle supplied by a manufacturer of vehicles without affixing VIN chip.

In case of vehicles which are imported for further sale or purchased on payment of sales tax for further sale, sales tax shall be paid after availing input tax adjustment on the basis of relevant goods declaration or as the case may be, sales tax invoice.

Provided that in case of imported vehicles which have been cleared on payment of duty and taxes in US dollar or in equivalent amount of Pak rupee under SRO 577(I)/2005, the adjustment shall be admissible only to the extent of sales tax calculated on the goods declaration as reduced by the apportionment of the amount so paid as if it were the total assessed duties and taxes payable on such vehicle.

Provided further that the dealer through whom the vehicle imported in terms of the said notification is first sold shall be deemed to be the importer of such vehicle for the purpose of availing input tax adjustment and payment of net output tax on the supply thereof.

Clarifying the determination of tax liability, the procedure has specified that the manufacturer or importer of vehicles shall pay sales tax due on the supply of their vehicles as per relevant law.

A dealer shall not be required to pay sales tax on such amounts of commission on which tax has been paid by the manufacturer or importer on whose behalf vehicles is sold by such dealer provided that in case any amount is received over and above such commission, the obligation to pay tax shall be of the dealer.

In case of old, used or second-hand vehicles sold whether after purchase or on behalf of other persons other than manufacturer or importer whose dealer he is, the dealer shall be responsible to pay tax on the basis of invoices.

In case of vehicles exchanged without involvement of any cash payment between the dealers exclusively for subsequent sale at their respective ends, tax shall be paid only at the time of their actual sale to the public.

Where a vehicle owned by any person from the public is sold through a dealer in exchange of other vehicle, tax shall be paid on both vehicles as if these have been sold without any such exchange.

As per rules, each manufacturer, importer and dealer shall deposit sales tax by 15th of the following month on a return-cum-challan.

No vehicle purchased through a dealer shall be registered by the authority competent to register vehicles under any law, rules or regulation unless the dealer's original sales tax invoice or as the case may be, original dealer's delivery advice-cum-invoice along with the invoice of the manufacturer or importer is produced to become a part of the official record of the vehicle with such authority.

Provided that vehicle which has been privately imported by any person from the public in his own name shall be registered on the basis of original import documents as per procedure already in vogue under the relevant law.

For filing of sales tax returns by the car industry, the CBR has specified that each manufacturer or, as the case may be, importer shall file monthly sales tax return-cum-challan in the manner prescribed under CHAPTER II of the Sales Tax Rules, 2005. Each dealer shall file in triplicate the monthly return-cum-challan by 15th of each month in the form set out at Annex II and make payment of sale tax accordingly.

Each manufacturer or, as the case may be, importer of vehicles shall furnish to the collector a dealer-wise consolidated statement by 20th of each month in the laid down form.

The manufacturers and importers shall also furnish a monthly consolidated statement to the collector indicating the number and value of vehicles, if any, sold directly to the consumers and the amount of sales tax paid on such vehicles.

The manufacturers, importers and dealers would keep proper record of all purchases, sales and tax invoices including import documents. Where requested by the collector, the registration authority shall furnish all information about the vehicles on which sales tax has been paid.

The audit of a manufacturer, importer or dealer of vehicles shall generally be a composite audit for all taxes administered by the Board and conducted preferably on annual basis.

sher-e-lahore

September 19th, 2005, 01:05 AM

GUY'S YOU KNOW WHAT I HAVE FOUND PIC'S OF ALIF BEEN LOOKING FOR REALLY HARD !!! FINALY GOT THEM FOR YOU GUY'S :eek2: I BEEN READYING YOUR FEEDBACK MUCH AS YOU I REALLY WANTED TO SEE THE PICS'S TO OF ALIF HERE YOU GO !!! GUY'S ALIF!!!!
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I PERSONALY THINK IT'S MUCH BETTER THEN NORMAL RIKSHA MAN I HATE RIKSHA IN LAHORE OR ELES WHERE IN PAKISTAN DAM TOO MUCH DUWA TOO MUCH SHOOR MAN I WISH THE ALL GO AWAY MAN LOOK AT ALIF LOOKS GREAT CAN'T WAIT TELL SEE THEM ON PAKISTANI ROAD'S HMMM ALIF
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FOR MORE INFOR GO TO ALIF OFFICEL WEBSITE:http://www.transmission-eng.com/tmc.html

UnitedPakistan

September 19th, 2005, 01:25 AM

its crap stick to the shit we have

sher-e-lahore

September 19th, 2005, 02:26 AM

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GUY'S VOTE NOW IF YOU THINK ALIF IS BETTER THEN OLD SMELLY RIKSHA OR YOU THINK OLD SMELLY RIKSHA IS BETTER THEN ALIF VOYE NOW :lurker:

MY VOTE FOR NEW ALIF !!!

THE REASON IS IT'S MUCH BETTER THEN 3 WHEEL RIKSHA NOT VERY SAFE PLUS TO MUCH SMOKE MESS UP YOUR HEALTH ONE MORE POINT GIVES ME A HEADECH BY IT SOUND !!!!! IAM SURE IT DOS TO MANY OTHER PPLS TOO .. :down:

swerveut

September 19th, 2005, 02:31 AM

Looks like a golf cart. Definitely an improvement over those nasty putters we have plowing the streets.

My vote is for Alaf.

UnitedPakistan

September 19th, 2005, 02:39 AM

No way!!

The Alaf is ugly

The Riksha is beautiful with its great coloring and its so unique with its coloring.

oogabooga

September 19th, 2005, 02:27 PM

Id have to Agree with UP and Sher. While the Alif is unbeleivably ugly, the Rickshaw is very noise and a major pollutant plowing on Pakistan's Roads. I think they can decorate the Alif like the Rickshaws but I would prefer it in a more sober appearance. :sleepy:

sher-e-lahore

September 19th, 2005, 08:29 PM

I'am sure Alif is going to be the winner hopefully... I hate Riksha so much can't tell you guys man it sux smelly so much noise pollutant man it sux big time ... When they going to put new Alif on the raod's of Pakistan dos anyone knows ? I got feeling New Alif going to be in Islamabad too they won't allow Riksha there but I'am sure they would onces Alif is out ...

huit

September 19th, 2005, 09:25 PM

Alif kinda resembles the "Sporty" we once had here in Pakistan. Though both are pretty ugly... but I'd prefer Alif over the noisy polluting ricksha.

btw, why is Qatar interested in importing it?? It doesn't look worth the price tag...

sher-e-lahore

September 21st, 2005, 12:01 PM

any more updates on this cool Alif ? c'on guy's vote witch one you think it's cool Alif or old Crap Riksha ?

UnitedPakistan

September 21st, 2005, 01:26 PM

LOL

Old is not crap

UnitedPakistan

September 21st, 2005, 01:26 PM

LOL

Old is not crap old is gold

cayenne

September 21st, 2005, 09:53 PM

I love the artwork on buses and other public transport vehicles in Pakistan.Someone should compile a book of all the photographs, if they haven't done it already!

sher-e-lahore

September 24th, 2005, 08:55 PM

Local assembling of Chevrolet 1000cc by Dec

KARACHI: Nexus Automotive announced on Friday that it would begin locally assembling Chevrolet 1000 cc products in Pakistan in early December.

“The company is targeting assembly of 4,000 mini-cars in its first full year of production,” said Muhammad Razaq, chairman and chief executive officer of Nexus Automotive on Friday. He said production would gradually be ramped up to 8,000 vehicles per annum by 2010 in line with market demand.

The $15 million program was expected to create approximately 450 jobs in manufacturing, administration, distribution and sales, he added. The locally built mini-car, which has been available in Pakistan since 2003 as an import, would go on sale by the end of the year at Nexus Automotive’s nationwide network of 10 dealers.

He said in addition to the locally supplied components, 1000 cc car would be assembled in Karachi from subsystems supplied by the Korean unit, GM Daewoo Auto and Technology (GM Daewoo). GM Daewoo is overseeing the installation of machinery, instituting advanced manufacturing processes, monitoring startup of production and carrying out training of local personnel at its facilities in Korea. Nexus Automotive is a1000 cc car importer and progressive manufacturer of GM products in Pakistan. It imports Chevrolet vehicles and markets them nationally through its franchised dealer network. In addition to the 1000 cc car, Nexus Automotive also offers the Chevrolet Optra sedan. staff report

ADAM MOTOR COMPANY greatest invention "REVO" car has arrived in Lahore.
This car attracted lot of viewers , when it entered our lively city.

Its efficent fuel consumption, durable body and ravishing looks makes it a "Value for Money".

I am Pleased to inform all our valuable customers that they can view this car on 9th September 2005 at ADAM WALTON MOTRORS LAHORE.

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sher-e-lahore

October 2nd, 2005, 06:44 PM

1 lak car soon to be launched on pakistan

http://www.pakwheels.com/images/forums/2005/10/2/2_2M6_PakWheels(com).jpg

any updates on this car ?

sher-e-lahore

October 2nd, 2005, 06:46 PM

can use this as taxi looks better then Alaf plus point is it's cheaper then Alif...

I guess this is new Alif if so ..

sher-e-lahore

October 2nd, 2005, 06:53 PM

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Our unit also provides the facility of remote engine blocking in case of emergency like snatching, kidnapping, harassment, or tempering. You can easily do it by sending an SMS through your authorized mobile phone to the tracking unit. The engine can only be un-blocked through authorized mobile phone or from control centre.

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zees

October 2nd, 2005, 08:23 PM

is this advertisement??

Tagga

October 2nd, 2005, 10:34 PM

Actually there is no competetion b/w Alaf and rickshaw, Rickshaw costs around 120,000 which is much less than Alaf.

I prefer the PAKHERO rickshaw (it looks just like the normal rickshaw but its a bit longer, has a low floor, has coil spring shock absorbers in the back, runs on CNG, its 4-Stroke i.e. no smoke no noise and it costs just 120,000) in 2008 2-stroke rickshaws will be banned in Lahore, Rawalpindi and Faisalabad.

huit

October 2nd, 2005, 11:38 PM

1 lak car soon to be launched on pakistan

http://www.pakwheels.com/images/forums/2005/10/2/2_2M6_PakWheels(com).jpg

any updates on this car ?

Now that's a better looking car - would love to see this replace those noisy rickshaws. Infact, with petrol prices at staggering 57 Rupees a litre - this could do quite well considering it will have a <= 500cc engine.

hassandada

October 3rd, 2005, 04:56 AM

Vehicle Tracking Service in Pakistan is 3 or 4 years old our tum ko ab pata chala

sher-e-lahore

October 3rd, 2005, 07:33 PM

Yes I call this a New Rekshaw of Pakistan ... I hope they have them as Rekshow

sher-e-lahore

October 3rd, 2005, 11:14 PM

Vehicle Tracking Service in Pakistan is 3 or 4 years old our tum ko ab pata chala

Nope I knew it befor you did my friend... this is just to make ppls aware Pakistan has got something for them theifs out there in Pakistan . :devil:

sher-e-lahore

October 3rd, 2005, 11:28 PM

more pics of this wanna be Rekshew of Pakistan...

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It's allready made his way in Sir Lanka

hassandada

October 4th, 2005, 12:48 AM

Nope I knew it befor you did my friend... this is just to make ppls aware Pakistan has got something for them theifs out there in Pakistan . :devil:
sub ko pata hai yaar

Tagga

October 4th, 2005, 01:51 AM

^This car can never have a price of 1 Lacs, this is an old car manufactured by MICRO of SriLanka and it has an 796cc engine an Automatic transmission.

pakboy

October 4th, 2005, 05:08 PM

Tagga

October 4th, 2005, 09:03 PM

thank god something is being done about that cr@P (rickshaw) that has completly f**ked up the streets of pakistan, even thought alif doesnt look good, its 999999 times better then rickshaw and would be as noisy and pollutant as it.

It cannot be used as a rickshaw, it 50K more expensive than a normal Rickshaw (4-Stroke + CNG rickshaw costs 120K) and that is alot for the person who wants to run a Rickshaw, I still think that the pakhero 4-stroke will be the next rickshaw (In Lahore it already is, 2-stroke rickshaws are not registered in Lahore anymore and pakhero is the only 4 stroke rickshaw available, the first 100 4-stroke rickshaws were handed over to their owners last Sunday).

dost_4u

October 5th, 2005, 02:13 PM

can someone upload pic of pakhero..............

how is it different from Alif and normal Rikshaw

cntower

October 5th, 2005, 03:10 PM

Don't really care how it looks; just make sure it's noise free and CNG that's all that matters. And maybe making all the rickshaws yellow would be nice...you can easily spot them.

sher-e-lahore

October 5th, 2005, 11:12 PM

can someone upload pic of pakhero..............
3- Seater Auto Rickshaw

how is it different from Alif and normal Rikshaw

here is update on Pakhero my friend hope thats enough info ...

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3- Seater Auto Rickshaw
(PH 333-175cc)

In Pakistan, people commonly use 3 - Seater rickshaw for travelling. To fulfil this demand of people, PAK HERO introduced 3- Seater auto rickshaw (PH 333). This rickshaw has the competitive edge of comfortable seats, durable and long life engine. Parts used in rickshaw are according to international requirement. This rickshaw can travel 24 Kms in one litre petrol.

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3 - Seater Auto Rickshaw
(Tezgam)

(PH 335-175CC)

To make auto rickshaws affordable to all those who wish to buy, PAK HERO introduced another auto rickshaw named “Tezgam” This rickshaw is one of the quality products of PAK HERO. Company uses the latest technology to minimize costs and optimize the quality. This auto rickshaw is cost effective and is low priced as compared to PAK HERO Auto Rickshaw (PH:333-175cc), But its quality is also high and meets all the requirements that any good rickshaw must process.

5-Seater Auto Rickshaw
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PAK HERO Loader:
PAK Hero loader is especially designed to carry the goods from one place to the other. It can carry the consumer goods like, drinks, bottles, eggs, cigarettes, newspapers etc. and light machinery. Usually, large vans and trucks are used for this purpose, which at times cannot approach a shop or a house located in a narrow street. Hiring labourers to carry the goods to a destination can be quite expensive. Thus, to deal with this situation, PAK HERO introduced PAK HERO Loader for transportation of goods which is very economical & convenient.
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PAK Hero Carry

PAK Hero carry is used for dual purpose:

1. Seats can be fixed in it and may be used as a public transport.

2. Secondly it can be used as a means of carrying goods from one place to the other. This was a newly introduced concept and it proved a major break through for PAK HERO Industries.

A GOOD NEWS

We are pleased to announce that the government has approved our plans to launch our new creation, Six Seater Auto Rickshaw. Below is given the approval letter issued to us. Very soon these rickshaws shall be running on the roads throughout Pakistan.

OFFICE OF THE CHAIRMAN,

PUNJAB PROVINCIAL TRANSPORT AUTHORITY,

34 - FARID KOT HOUSE SCHEME, LAHORE.

Subject: Permission Regarding Six Seater Auto Rickshaw As PSV MEMORANDUM.

Consequent upon the recommendations of the Engineering Development Board, Islamabad, the Chairman, Punjab Provincial Transport Authority, Lahore has been pleased to accord approval to the introduction of four seater excluding driver of Motor Cab Rickshaw Model Pak Hero - PK - 333 & PG - 335 as Public Service Vehicle, subject to the following conditions in addition to the
terms and conditions already given in this behalf:

1. Motor Cab Rickshaw shall be equipped with a detachable double Buffle Plates Silencer of the specifications as provided in Rule 155(3) OF MV Rules, 1969.

2. Exemption for seating capacity of Rule 2(e) and rule 182(4) is being carried out which shall be issued separately by Government for making seating arrangement in the above said Auto Rickshaw.

In Pakistan, motor Vehicles are not available in sufficient quantity to fulfil the transportation needs. PAK Hero decided to cope with the situation and brought into the market 5-seater auto rickshaw having capacity to carry more passengers. This is a drastic step towards excellent success, because Govt. has approved its manufacturing. Now people in with the driving profession can earn more by buying 5-seater rickshaw. Safety element is assured by joining the long chassis.

PAK HERO auto rickshaw is wholly manufactured and assembled in Pakistan with the consultancy of the foreign experts. PAK HERO rickshaw is manufactured according to the international standards.

PAK HERO auto rickshaw has the following competitive advantages over its competitors.

1- Less Consumption of Petrol

2- Best Pickup

3- Varied Colours

4- Less smoke releasing

5- Easy to drive

6- Control on noise

After successfully launching the auto rickshaw in market PAK HERO introduced diversified range of auto rickshaws to satisfy the Customer’s varied needs.

(1) 3- Seater Auto Rickshaw: (PH 333-175cc)

(2) 3-Seater auto rickshaw (Tezgam) (PH 335-175CC)

(3) 5-Seater auto rickshaw

(4) PAK Hero Carry

(5) PAK Hero Loader

Although PAK HERO has entered into automobile market only a few years ago, even then it has snatched the major market share from its competitors. PAK Hero is now considered to be one of the major automobile industries because it has built a good reputation in quality and performance. PAK HERO manufactures its products in accordance with customer needs. Its product range includes

PAK HERO is a private limited company. Its factory is located at 10 km Raiwind Road, Lahore. Some of the important industrial units of Pakistan lie in this region, being declared as “Industrial Zone”. Factory of PAK HERO is spread over four and a half acres of land . The other unit of “PAK HERO is its warehouse and lies adjacent to the factory.

Factory has a capacity to produce 12,000 auto rickshaws, 45,000 motor cycles and 5,000 scooters per annum.

Basically, factory is divided into eight individual units, Detailed information about each unit are stated below.

http://www.pakhero.com/images/fdntngu.jpg Denting Unit:

PAK HERO prepares the body of all its products within the factory and denting unit has a key role in manufacturing the bodies of PAK HERO products. High technology based machinery is used for this purpose.

http://www.pakhero.com/images/fasmgll.jpg Body Fabrication Unit:

Die making unit manufactures all the dies used in Die Casting unit. In die making unit, dies of different sizes and shapes are produced according to requirement.

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All the parts of automobiles manufactured in different departments are brought in this unit. These parts are assembled and shaped into a finished product.

Gas Welding Unit:

Besides manufacturing the chassis this unit plays an important role in preparing the body of Rickshaw. Welding unit joins the body with chassis. Machinery used in this unit is imported from abroad.
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Die Casting Unit:
A Hundreds types of parts of complex nature are used in PAK HERO products. These parts are produced within the factory in Die Casting unit according to the standardized quality. The importance of machinery used in die casting unit is admitted all over the Pakistan.
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Machinning Unit:
It is the most important unit in automobile industry. Majority of the diecasted parts are machined to bring them into exact and standard size as per technical specifications.

http://www.pakhero.com/images/fengtsu.jpg Engine Assembling Unit:

Engine assembling unit has same role in factory as engine in the vehicle. Engines of all products of PAK HERO are assembled in this unit. Some of its parts are prepared in factory in die casting unit and some are imported from abroad. After assembling the engine it is sent to engine testing unit where its performance is checked.

http://www.pakhero.com/images/fengntu.jpg Engine Testing Unit:

In this unit engines manufactured are observed keenly. Engine is run at a specific speed for a particular time period and if it satisfies the predetermined standards, it is sent to the assembling line unit.

Fitting Assembly Line:

When all the parts have been brought into fitting condition then these are brought to assembly conveyor line where all the determined parts are fitted together to form a shape of an automobile product, whether it is a motocycle or an auto rickshaw.

Final Inspection & Quality Control:

When an automobile has been manufactured and assembled then it is brought to quality control and final inspection units where the quality checkups are carried on, on the latest testing and inspection instruments to maintain the quality of PakHero automobile products.

Paint Shop Unit:

When body is manufactured & fabricated completely it is sent into paint shop unit where automobiles are painted in different colours. High quality paints are used which are not affected by change of season, sunlight and rain.
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for more info go on: www.pakhero.com

Tagga

October 6th, 2005, 09:26 AM

^Thats the old Pakhero, the new one is all green and has quite a few cosmetic changes.

dost_4u

October 6th, 2005, 10:04 AM

Thanx Sher-e-lahore............ :wave: :wave: :wave:

Weldone Pak Hero

sher-e-lahore

October 6th, 2005, 06:24 PM

Thanx Sher-e-lahore............ :wave: :wave: :wave:

Weldone Pak Hero

you welcome anytime..

to be honest I don#t like this Rekshaw I like the new on much better duno about the green one your talking about never heard of it if you have then make some updates on it thanks///

Tagga

October 6th, 2005, 08:04 PM

^The green CNG rickshaws are very very rare (there are 17000 rickshaws in Lahore and the green one's are just 100).

It still looks alot like the old Rickshaw but its very quiet (sounds no more than a CD-70) it emits no smoke (Actually its super clean because its 4-stroke and runs on CNG), it is also bigger on the inside and has Coil spring shock absorbers in the back (thank God, now you can take a ride in a rickshaw without the fear of breaking your skull or hip bone).

According to a research, if all the buses in Lahore are converted to CNG and rickshaws to 4-stroke, pollution in Lahore will decrease by 60%.

sher-e-lahore

October 7th, 2005, 08:01 PM

The two-stroke solution
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The roar of a chainsaw engine can shatter the silence of a peaceful day at the cottage, but in Karachi and Lahore, Pakistan, thousands of these two-stroke engines operate at once—powering the main mode of transportation known as the auto-rickshaw.

Kaleidoscopic paint jobs make it difficult to miss the huge fleet of auto rickshaws that operate as taxi cabs in Pakistan's cities. Unfortunately, the tiny vehicles are a major source of both air and noise pollution.

The most accessible and least expensive form of transportation in many major cities in Asia, the three-wheeled auto-rickshaw—combined with motorcycles and other vehicles that operate on two-stroke engines—has become a major environmental problem. Two-stroke engines operate in a similar manner to the four-stroke versions found in most automobiles; however, fuel is not burned as completely or as efficiently. The result is a noisy engine that emits high volumes of carbon dioxide and other pollutants.

Add the still-prevalent use of leaded fuel in Pakistan and the result is a pollution problem so great that one province in Pakistan has stopped issuing new permits for auto-rickshaws. Treating this now as an environmental priority, the Government of Pakistan has made a commitment to establish natural gas fueling centres in all major cities in the hopes of promoting the cleaner-burning fuel as an alternative to leaded gasoline.

For three years, researchers at Environment Canada's Environmental Technology Centre have been working with Yugo-Tech, a Mississauga-based company, to develop a technology that will allow two-stroke engines to run on cleaner-burning compressed natural gas instead of regular leaded gas. Already successfully tested at the Centre's labs, this technology will now be field tested in Lahore, Karachi and Quetta—a smoke-filled city in Pakistan once known for its clean air.

The demonstration project, which is funded under Canada's Climate Change Action Fund, will involve converting 35 auto-rickshaws, creating conversion and emission test centres in Quetta, and providing training and education for rickshaw drivers on the importance of using cleaner fuel. Raja Group in Pakistan, a manufacturer of the auto-rickshaw, will collaborate in converting the engines.

Over the two years it is scheduled to run, the demonstration project will result in a reduction of 76.5 tonnes of carbon dioxide, a greenhouse gas that contributes to climate change. Based on estimates that the typical rickshaw driver logs 200 kilometres a day, 360 days a year, converting all new and in-use vehicles in Pakistan to compressed natural gas would reduce annual carbon dioxide emissions by 21 per cent, or 370,000 tonnes. In addition, the conversion would greatly reduce emissions of lead, benzene and other pollutants that affect the health and environment of city dwellers.

This demonstration project is intended to prove the viability of this Canadian-made technology and simplify its transfer to other Asian countries—making it possible for people in these countries to breathe easier, and contributing to global efforts to minimize the human impact on climate change.

sher-e-lahore

October 7th, 2005, 08:02 PM

Pakistan: Environmental Issues

Introduction
Ineffective natural resource management over many years and continuing high population growth each have had a negative impact on Pakistan's environment. Agricultural runoff exacerbated by ongoing deforestation and industrial runoff have polluted water supplies, factory and vehicle emissions have degraded air quality in the urban centers. Similar to other developing countries, Pakistan has focused on achieving self-sufficiency in food production, meeting energy demands, slowing population growth, and increasing economic growth rather than on curtailing pollution or other environmental hazards. As a result, "green" concerns have not been the government's top priority.

Yet, as Pakistan's cities suffer from the effects of air pollution and unplanned development has caused degradation, environmental issues have become more salient. Safeguarding public health, as well as preserving Pakistan's natural wonders, has made environmental protection increasingly important. In an attempt to redress the previous inattention to the nation's mounting environmental problems, in 1992 the government issued its National Conservation Strategy Report (NCSR).

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Building on the Pakistan Environmental Protection Ordinance of 1983, the NCSR stipulated three goals for the country's environmental protection efforts: (1) conservation of natural resources; (2) promotion of sustainable development; and (3) improvement of efficiency in the use and management of resources. Fourteen program areas were targeted for priority implementation, including energy efficiency improvements, renewable resource development/deployment, pollution prevention/reduction, urban waste management, institutional support of common resources, and integration of population and environmental programs.

In addition, in 1993 Pakistan instituted National Environmental Quality Standards (NEQS) on municipal and liquid industrial effluents and industrial gaseous emissions, motor vehicle exhaust, and noise. This attempt to legislate environmental protection has fallen short as regulations have not been enforced strongly. In addition, enforcement does not imply effectiveness, and even if regulations were strictly enforced, many industries would be unable to comply. For instance when new environmental regulations were implemented in 1996, only 3% of industries were able to pass the test for compliance. National attention towards environmental issues has increased recently because, under provisions of a World Trade Organization (WTO) agreement, Pakistan will have difficulty after 2005 exporting products from industries without adequate environmental safeguards.

Following early successes in Pakistan's implementing its National Conservation Strategy, progress has stalled due to institutional failure on the part of the government policies and practices. In addition to policy ineffectiveness and corruption, Pakistan has not funded environmental protection efforts adequately. A January 2000 report released by the Ministry of Environment showed that Pakistan currently spends about $17 million per year on pollution-related cleanup; however, $84 million is needed to correct the country's environmental problems, and $1.8 billion per year in losses from environmental damage.

A lack of funding is evident in Pakistan's environmental protection efforts. The former government of Nawaz Sharif cited lack of funds as the reason for delay in establishing the Pakistan Environment Protection Council, an environmental protection watchdog group that the government had agreed to set up several years ago (but only recently established). However, the SDPI has estimated that the government allocates just 0.04% of the total public sector development program budget on the environment, and 70% of the funds for environment are loans from foreign lenders. The SDPI has estimated the staggering cost of environmental neglect in Pakistan as between 3%-5% of GDP, projected to reach 4%-8% by 2010.

The World Bank conducted a pilot project in the province of Balochistan in the late 1990s. The program was designed both to strengthen Balochistan's environmental protection institutions so they are better able to undertake their responsibilities and empower local communities to involve them in the design and implementation of natural resources' development and management. The project also worked to improve provincial natural resources use policies so that natural resources are used in an efficient and sustainable manner, publicize environmental issues, and implement to high priority operations and pilot programs to rehabilitate and develop damaged natural resources. The World Bank's pilot program was designed according to the objectives and strategies of the National Conservation Strategy. Although the World Bank's pilot program was partially successful, there have been no attempts to use the ideals of the program as a national model for protecting Pakistan's environment and managing its natural resources.

Oil and Gas Exploration in Kirthar National Park
Although Pakistan has the laws and regulations in place, its ability and commitment to protecting its environment has been questioned. Pakistan has tried to maintain the balance between developing its economy and preserving its natural wonders, but nevertheless, controversy erupted over former Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif's government's decision to allow oil and gas exploration in Kirthar National Park. The 1,192-square-mile park, which is about 90 miles northeast of Karachi, is the country's oldest national wildlife park, home to several rare or threatened species, including the Sindh Ibex, Urial sheep, and the chinkara gazelle.

The controversy first began in July 1997 when the Sharif government opened the park to prospectors, inviting British Premier Oil to search for an estimated 3 trillion cubic feet of gas believed trapped in the porous rock. Resistance from environmentalists kept the project dormant, and the Sind Wildlife Department turned down earlier requests by Premier's consultant to conduct an environmental impact assessment.

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In May 1999, the regional Sind government and environmental groups, including the World Wildlife Fund, reached an agreement by which a committee was formed to conduct an independent assessment of the park, with a view toward looking into the ecological and management concerns at Kirthar. In August 1999, while inviting tenders for parties interested in carrying out the environmental impact assessment, Pakistan's Ministry of Petroleum and Natural Resources went ahead and gave Premier Oil Exploration, Lasmo Oil, and Shell Exploration a license to explore for oil and natural gas.

Exploration is taking place in the Dumbar Block, which forms 95% of the area of the park. The Sustainable Development Policy Institute (SDPI), the country's leading environmental group, has stated that any mining or exploration in the park is illegal according to the provisions of the Sind Wildlife Ordinance (Amendment) Act of 1993, and that it would violate the country's international commitments to protect biodiversity made under the Convention on Biological Diversity. In 2000, environmental groups, including Friends of the Earth International sued Premier Oil to stop oil exploration. In October 2001, Pakistani courts dismissed the legal challenges because the country's environmental laws were changed while the case was being heard, making such exploration in a National Park legal. The issue is not yet resolved, however, as environmental groups are seeking to appeal to Pakistan's Supreme Court in Islamabad.

Air Pollution
The level of air pollution in Pakistan's two largest cities, Karachi and Lahore, is estimated to be 20 times higher than World Health Organization standards, and continuing to rise. Islamabad, the capital, is perpetually smothered by a thick cloud of smog that hides views of the Margalla Hills that tower over the city's tree-lined streets.

As industry has expanded, factories have emitted more and more toxic effluents into the air. Also, as in other developing countries, the number of vehicles in Pakistan has swelled in recent years--from 680,000 in 1980 to 5 million in 2003. The 1992 National Conservation Strategy Report claims that the average Pakistani vehicle emits 25 times as much carbon dioxide as the average U.S. vehicle, as well as 20 times as many hydrocarbons and more than 3.5 times as many nitrous oxides in grams per kilometer.

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Cars are the leading source of air pollution that adversely affects Pakistan's economy and population. Economic damages from urban air pollution are estimated at about $370 million, with 6.4 million people hospitalized annually for air-pollution-related illnesses. A recent advertisement placed by the government in a newspaper warned, "Take care of your tune-ups before the poison in the air takes care of you."

Many Pakistani environmentalists say that poor fuel quality is also to blame for the country's serious air pollution problems. Fuel consumption rose by 188% in Pakistan from 1980 to 1998, and gasoline continues to contain high levels of lead and sulfur. Unleaded gasoline was introduced in 2001, but many vehicles in Pakistan's major cities still use leaded gasoline. Various grades of gasoline sold contain about 350 mg/liter of lead--in comparison, leaded gasoline in other countries usually contains no more than 150 mg/liter. Dr. Asif Qayyum Qureshi, a research fellow at SDPI, claimed that the problem of air pollution largely could be solved if the government were to tighten its lax fuel quality standards.

The government's 1995 Clean Fuel Initiative was largely ineffective, and now authorities are looking at the possibility of using alternative fuels for vehicles. As of 2001, 200,000 cars were fitted to use compressed natural gas (CNG) which pollutes less than gasoline. The government has also set up 150 CNG fueling stations around the country, and is looking into converting diesel vehicles to CNG as well. Pakistan has investigated converting rickshaws to CNG through a pilot project with the Canadian International Development Agency (CIDA). Preliminary results suggest that converting rickshaws to CNG would bring considerable cost-savings for rickshaw owners and environmental benefits throughout Pakistan. Unfortunately, outside funding would be required to expand the program as the capital investment to convert rickshaws to CNG is beyond the reach of most rickshaw owners.

Energy Consumption
Pakistan's energy consumption has nearly tripled in the last 20 years, from 0.6 quadrillion Btu in 1980 to 1.9 quads in 2001. Still, Pakistan accounts for less than 0.5% of total world energy consumption.

In terms of per capita energy consumption, Pakistan's level of 12.9 million Btu in 2001 was higher than Bangladesh's (3.7 million Btu), but virtually on par with India's (12.6 million). In comparison, China's per capita energy consumption in 2001 was 30.9 million Btu, Iran's was 80.3 million Btu, and Russia's was 195.3 million Btu, while U.S. per capita consumption was 341.8 million Btu.

Carbon and Energy-Related Emissions
Pakistan's energy-related carbon emissions in 2001 totaled 29.2 million metric tons, nearly triple the 1980 level of 9.3 million metric tons. Yet, Pakistan accounts for only 0.4% of the world's carbon emissions, and its emissions are relatively low compared to its neighbors in the region. Iran's emissions, for instance, have climbed from 33.1 million metric tons of carbon in 1980 to 90.1 million metric tons in 2001, while India's carbon emissions have jumped from 82.2 million metric tons in 1980 to 251.3 million metric tons in 2001.

Because Pakistan, along with other developing countries, has argued that it needs to be free of emission ceilings in order to develop its economy, the country has not taken on any emission reduction commitments under the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change, nor is Pakistan a signatory to the Kyoto Protocol.http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/images/pakistan-carbon2.gif
http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/images/pakistan-carbon-percap2.gif Pakistan's per capita carbon emissions in 2001 were 0.2 metric tons per person. In comparison, Bangladesh emitted 0.1 metric tons of carbon per person, while India's level was 0.25 metric tons per capita. China's per capita carbon emissions level in 2001 was 0.65, Iran's level was 1.4, and the U.S. value was 5.5 metric tons per person.

Most of Pakistan's carbon dioxide emissions were from oil (54.6%) while emissions from natural gas were 38.1% and emissions from coal (7.2%) accounted for the rest.

Energy and Carbon Intensity
Pakistan's energy intensity--energy generated per dollar spent--is high due to the inefficiencies of the state-run power sector in generating electricity and transmitting it across the national grid. Poor quality infrastructure, as well as power theft, means that Pakistan does not generate the amount of electricity it needs to, necessitating rotating blackouts in some areas. Although it is difficult to measure theft along transmission lines (as opposed to line loss), it is likely that theft is a significant contributor to Pakistan's 30% overall electricity loss rate.

In 2001 Pakistan's energy intensity stood at 33,600 Btu/$2001--more than triple the United States' energy intensity of 9,600 Btu/$2001. In comparison to its neighbors, Pakistan's level of energy intensity was significantly higher than Bangladesh's 2001 energy intensity of 11,300 Btu/$2001 but significantly lower than Iran's energy intensity (67,000 Btu/$2001). Pakistan and India (26,200 Btu/$2001) have similar energy intensities, both of which are lower than China's (34,200 Btu/$2001).

Pakistan's lack of coal reserves has kept the country's carbon intensity down, but the level is still high. Carbon emissions from vehicles are the main reason behind Pakistan's 2001 carbon intensity of 0.52 metric tons of carbon/thousand $2001. The comparable U.S. level of carbon intensity was 0.15. Although Iran (0.1.16) and China (0.72) were significantly higher than Pakistan's 2001 carbon intensity level, Pakistan's level is about the same as its neighbor India (0.51). Only Bangladesh (0.18) was lower than Pakistan in terms of carbon intensity in the south Asian region.
Renewable Energy
Renewable energy consumed in Pakistan in 1997 totaled 1,132 trillion Btu, a 1% increase from 1996. Hydroelectric power is an important domestic energy source, generating 28% of all electricity in the country, and a number of new sites are being developed. Although the mountainous north gives Pakistan much hydroelectric potential, difficulty of access and the high cost of transmission to the populous south make development of this potential a distant prospect. Nevertheless, the Pakistani government has started working on feasibility studies for the construction of more dams, with feasibility reports of at least five small dams expected to be completed by the end of 2000.

Indeed, some development of renewable energy sources has been undertaken precisely because of the population's difficulty of access. In order to provide electricity to rural areas that would otherwise not have electricity in the foreseeable future (because they are either too remote and/or too expensive to connect to the national grid), Pakistan is turning to solar power. Pakistan has worked with WorldWater, an American company, to install solar-powered water pumps that can help address the water needs of people in rural areas without electricity.

The government hopes that, by harnessing solar power for energy in rural areas, it will reduce villages' reliance on firewood. Pakistan is still shifting to modern energy sources, with firewood, dung, and bagasse (the woody residue left over from crushed sugarcane) making up one-third of all energy consumed in Pakistan as recently as 1988. Although Pakistan is an ideal physical environment for solar energy, many past projects have failed because systems needed maintenance after expert personnel had left. Studies are underway on how future solar projects can be sustained at a local level by Pakistani villages.

Pakistan currently has two nuclear power plants, one near Karachi and the other at Chashma. The Karachi facility, which was built in 1965 with Canadian assistance, has demonstrated a poor operating record, which--in addition to concerns in the international community about Pakistan's possible use of nuclear material for weapons--has contributed to the lack of further development of the country's nuclear power sector. The Chashma Nuclear Power Plant was built with Chinese assistance and inaugurated in 2001. Pakistan is placing more emphasis on nuclear power to meet future energy needs and has begun talks with China over the development of a second facility at Chashma.

Pakistan in the 21st Century
The Pakistani government's current focus is on economic development and poverty allieviation. Like many developing countries, Pakistan has limited resources for addressing its environmental problems. Pakistan's previous environmental record is poor, and the country has not yet been able to back up its commitment to environmental protection with action. New developments in the World Trade Organization (WTO), however, stipulate that members can face higher tariff barriers for their exports in 2005 if certain basic environmental criteria are not met. Discussions are ongoing in Pakistani government and industry circles to meet the necessary requirements. It is clear that Pakistan will need to place greater emphasis on environmental protection in order to stem the country's environmental degradation and safeguard citizens' health.

sher-e-lahore

October 7th, 2005, 08:11 PM

Lahore — Special squads constituted by the Punjab Government will start action against pollution and noise generating vehicles in big cities, from August One.

The cities include Lahore, Rawalpindi, Faisalabad, Gujranwala and Multan. This was disclosed by Secretary Transport Punjab, Agha Nadim at a briefing to newsmen here on Friday. The briefing was followed by a tour of various parts of the city to observe the working of anti-pollution squads, in the ongoing traffic awareness campaign.

He said the awareness campaign has been underway since June last to educate and guide drivers to improve the condition of their vehicles, latest by the 31st of the current month, to avoid penalties. Those who break the rules thereafter will be dealt according to law, he added.

Auto and motorcycle rickshaws contribute over 70 percent to the noise and air pollution in the urban environment, which leads to multiple health and mental disorders in humans as well as other creatures, he said.The government has launched a Green Fund to provide CNG fitted 4-stroke rickshaws on interest free financing, he said, adding that any man with a rickshaw driving licence and a computerized national identity card may apply for the environment-friendly rickshaw under the Green Fund.

The prices of these rickshaws range between Rs 95,000 to Rs 126,000, and drivers will need to pay an initial deposit of Rs 30,000 while the remaining amount may be paid in easy instalments.

Responding to a question, the transport secretary said that a ban has already been imposed on plying buses over eight years in big cities, while wagons that are over 10 years old will not be allowed to ply on city roads after June next, he added.—APP

sher-e-lahore

October 7th, 2005, 08:15 PM

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The congested streets of Lahore - two-stroke vehicles are the worst polluters

Pakistan's Punjab province - the nation's most populous - has announced measures to tackle air pollution, but some activists doubt they will have any impact, citing the tardy progress of previous steps to improve the environment. Already among the highest in the world, air pollution levels in Pakistan's largest cities, many of which are in Punjab, continue to climb, raising serious health concerns.

The Economic Survey of Pakistan 2004 pinpoints vehicle and industrial emissions as the main air pollutant. "The average compounded growth of vehicles in Pakistan is about 12 percent a year, and over the last two decades the total number of motor vehicles on the road has jumped from 0.8 million to almost 5 million," the annual report said.

It explained that motorcycles and rickshaws, due to their two-stroke engines, are the most inefficient in burning fuel and contribute most to emissions. Rickshaws have more than doubled in number, while motorcycles and scooters have increased seven-fold over the past 20 years.

The Punjab government says two-stroke vehicles will be illegal in the province after 31 December this year. The Punjab environment secretary, Riaz Bashir, told IRIN that the use of vehicles with two-stroke engines had been banned in many countries around the world. "Vehicle-based environmental pollution has already reached alarming levels and further delay in bringing it under control could have disastrous effects," he warned.

According to a World Bank report, air pollution causes 168,000 premature deaths annually in Pakistan. "Urban air pollution causes average annual damages in the range of US $369 million to the Pakistani exchequer," it said.

A study carried out by the Ministry of Environment says about 16.28 million people (40 percent of the total urban population) of Pakistan are at a health risk due to air pollution because the province does not comply with World Health Organization (WHO) ambient air quality standards.

The Environment Protection Department (EPD) is trying to soften the blow by the provision of loans to owners of two-stroke vehicles to replace their engines with natural gas burning units after the ban. It says the ban will help cut pollution in big cities such as Lahore, Faisalabad, Rawalpindi and Multan. Such a ban exists in the federal capital, Islamabad, and has gone some way to improving air quality there.

But previous EPD campaigns have achieved little, activists say. In 1998, the EPD drive against vehicles emitting smoke and creating noise only succeeded in imposing fines on the owners of 150,000 two-stroke vehicles and impounding 400 by the time it ended in 2001.

In last year's campaign against smoke-emitting vehicles, the environment department's mobile squads fined more than 8,000 private and 500 government vehicles in the cities of Faisalabad, Gujranwala, Multan and Rawalpindi.

Head of the mobile squads, Nasimur Rahman, told IRIN they launched the campaign on the directions of the Supreme Court, which acted in May last year to try to reduce environmental degradation in Pakistan, especially in the Punjab.

But the EPD lacks resources, including trained staff and scientific instruments to measure emission levels. According to a survey recently conducted by the department, more than 70 percent of the public and private vehicles in Lahore are emitting excessive smoke and noise.

Punjab Transport Minister Rana Shamshad Ahmad Khan told the Punjab Assembly that the government intended to buy new equipment to test vehicles.

But some people laugh the whole campaign off. "The government has not succeeded in even enforcing its ban on smoking in public offices and places," Irshad Hussain, a broadcaster and environmental activist, told IRIN. "The major problem is lack of will," he said.

The problem appears to run even deeper. There is no viable plan for the phasing out of about 200,000 vehicles (according to EPD figures) running on two-stroke engines in the province. The minister says the two-stroke-engine vehicles will be sent to smaller cities.

Worst hit will be drivers of ubiquitous three-wheeler scooters or auto-rickshaws which will be made obsolete by the ban.

"It is easy to order a ban but the government should have arranged loans for us so that we can buy new vehicles. After all we were providing a service to the public," Akram, an auto rickshaw driver, told IRIN. He has been driving a rickety, smoky vehicle for five years. A new vehicle would cost nearly US $2,500 dollars, a sum he could never afford.

Hiring a vehicle will cost him two dollars a day and there are days when he can barely scrape up three dollars. He fears that owners of three-wheelers which comply with the new regulations will raise the daily rent.

Long-suffering commuters will also have to pay more. "The drivers who buy new four-stroke rickshaws will charge more," Shazia Ali told IRIN. She commutes to and from her office by rickshaw. "Travelling by rickshaw was already too costly," she said.

"The trouble is they are looking for quick fix solutions when what is needed is a comprehensive technology plan including traffic management and pollution control," Irshad Hussain said.

Aryan

November 6th, 2005, 09:43 PM

Check it out....

http://www.adammotor.com

They've improved the design, it looks a lot more professional now. They've made it much easier to navigate, and its not an embarrassment anymore.

They've also renamed their 4x4 to Boltoro, a much better name. It also looks like its been redesigned a little.

It looks like they do listen to us after all....

asfar001

November 7th, 2005, 04:46 AM

its an excellent site man...they have done a good job on it. its like any other good website of car companies. good job

sher-e-lahore

November 7th, 2005, 07:04 PM

Pollution-free rickshaw made
HARIPUR,Local auto- mechanic Jehangir claims to have successfully converted the old-fashioned tri-wheeler into country’s first environment-friendly auto-rickshaw.

He has offered his services for serial conversions if he is supported by government agencies concerned.

During a visit to Jehangir Azam’s workshop on the invitation of Rural Development Project (RDP) and Human Development Organization (HDO) two Haripur-based civil society organizations (CSOs) striving to introduce a modified design of environment-friendly machine, it was observed that the auto-rickshaw introduced by Mr Azam is smokeless, noiseless and its sound frequency is within the permissible limits under the National Environmental Quality Standards.

“I couldn’t sleep for several nights because of ear piercing noise of rickshaws when for the first time my family relocated to existing apartment on top of the workshop,” he said, adding that since then he had tried various options to make the existing design as human and environment-friendly.

Undeterred by numerous impediments, Azam continued his struggle for devising a mechanism that people got rid of smoke and noise pollution. “One morning of December 2003 my eight month-long effort came true when the first-ever converted machine came on road,” he said.

Explaining his mechanism, he said that he buys 500cc imported engine from the junk shop for Rs 3,000 to 3,500 and fixes it into the body of ordinary rickshaw with little alteration.

Kabaris, he said import these discarded small engines from Japan and sell them to mechanics in parts as it cannot be used in pick-ups owing to its smaller size.

Azam said that a full fledge tri-wheeler with new four-stroke engine, an imported CNG kit, new wiring and steel body costs Rs 110,000 while just alteration of engine, change of wiring needs Rs 60,000. He said that an ordinary rickshaw is available for Rs 80,000 to 100,000 which is a constant source of trouble for general public.

“Supporting his claim he said that the machine introduced by him has a four-stroke 500cc engine against 165cc two-stroke engine in ordinary machine, which causes harm to the eco system.

Sultan

November 8th, 2005, 05:16 AM

Looks professional now. : )

Asad Abbas Syed

November 8th, 2005, 09:37 AM

Just now I made a phone call to Adam motors dealer in Rawalpindi who astonished by telling that the subject car hasn't been launched in their showroom and expected to grace their showroom in not less than month and a half time. Web site is claiming something different from the reality. I wonder if they can't lauch their product parallel nation wide what could be the plight of buyers in getting smooth access to the spare parts later on. God Bless

Gumnaam

November 8th, 2005, 03:39 PM

Looks professional now. : )
Still many dead links! : (

Naqvi

November 10th, 2005, 02:58 AM

I do believe that Adam Motors can lead the way in providing affordable quality cars with high standards. The Auto Industry is emerging, and those who don't profit too much on behalf of greed will greatly be rewarded.

A company's respect and integrity are important in the emerging world of Globalization. Integrity is the key to success. Many AutoMakers here in the United States invest a lot of money in research institutions and there are many schools named after these AutoMakers.

This is the step that these current automakers should make. Our Automakers need to learn how to lead the International Standard rather than follow it.

New cars must be made with Navigation Systems, and we need to invest greater in CNG, and other clean energy systems. We need to start working on the Flying Cars Concept and try to make it a reality faster. It was predicted back in the 1940s that we would have cars that would float by 2005, This generation of grown ups have failed to make that mission, and we have to do a lot of catching up in terms of inventions for human service, rather than IPods for great music, but the reality is, IPods make money.

However, there are great inventors out there, and we must work on researching the concept of flying cars, so it can be a reality sooner than later. So later on, we don't have to depend on Helicopters for rescue missions.

UnitedPakistan

November 10th, 2005, 07:41 AM

^

Chisti Zia invented Invisialign

Red aRRow

November 12th, 2005, 02:29 AM

I think the Vespa rickshaws should be gradually replaced and then later completely banned. They're such an eyesore.

UnitedPakistan

November 12th, 2005, 03:09 AM

^ How are they a eyesore?

Its part of our culture believe it or not.

I am talking about the paintings on the Ricksha

huit

November 12th, 2005, 07:24 AM

^ One should let go off some part of the culture with time... These rickshaws are not only eye-sore, they're even ear-sore! They might seem nice when you only visit Pakistan for few days in a year - but ask those that have to put up with their noise, ugliness and their idiotic drivers everyday! Not having to drive amongst Rickshaws is one thing I envy about Islamabad!

sher-e-lahore

November 12th, 2005, 11:30 AM

huit

November 12th, 2005, 08:31 PM

Red aRRow

November 12th, 2005, 08:58 PM

^ How are they a eyesore?

Its part of our culture believe it or not.

I am talking about the paintings on the Ricksha

Well the fact that they produce above 100 dB of noise is an 'ear-sore'. I mean its not like I don't enjoy riding in them once in a while...however as huit said we gotta move forward and gradually bring in modern and more efficient (less polluting) means of transportation.

UnitedPakistan

November 12th, 2005, 10:32 PM

Horse-Carts (Tongas) too were part of our culture and not long ago Lahore was littered with them... Then the government gradually reduced them to a level where you don't see them plying the roads everyday. This was an extremely good move... and I'm glad I don't have to drive amongst them anymore! Next target should be to get rid of these fugly rickshaws - perhaps replacing them with that car from Sri Lanka someone posted somewhere here is the best option!
That really wasnt any cultural value to them. :)

I am not saying dont make improvements to the riksha yes make the riksha's emissions cleaner but also keep in mind that banning the Riksha would make many people lose their jobs as they cant afford cars or any other vehicles.

UnitedPakistan

November 12th, 2005, 10:34 PM

I come to Pakistan every summer and i just do not want my country to lose part of its culture. Simple as that...You can fix the engine and everything and make improvements but keep the riksha.

huit

November 13th, 2005, 09:56 AM

sher-e-lahore

November 13th, 2005, 10:29 AM

Well that's your opinion, but if I had my way I would get rid of them 'gradually'... have you ever driven a car yourself on Lahore's roads? I'd be surprised if you don't find them extremely rash - its like driving amongst 'moving mines'!

Dam tell me about it when ever I vist Pakistan Lahore allways drive DAM there are nightmare no break LIGHT'S !!! :bash: can't even see when they going to stop or pull out bloody riksha's man your 100% right dam minds there are !!! oh yeh and allso I posted them pics Sir Lanka them little car's .... hmmm I can see where you coming out from United Pakistan yeh but if we can offer them new boy's on the street can help them out I mean the gov can it would work out for everyone trust me :)

November 14th, 2005, 11:58 PM

And I believe its Zia Chishti

Aryan

November 16th, 2005, 03:57 PM

Dude...flying cars do exist. Haven't you seen back to the future?

sher-e-lahore

November 16th, 2005, 08:29 PM

New Rickshaw
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Old Rickshaw
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Intoxication

November 16th, 2005, 11:40 PM

Will this new Rickshaw make less noise than the old ones?

UnitedPakistan

November 17th, 2005, 12:11 AM

They will definetly not be cheaper so it is likely this new plan will not form.

Dallas1

November 17th, 2005, 08:47 AM

I hope these "New Rickshaws" get Pakistan fast. Sick n tired of these ugly noisy rickshaws

Dallas1

November 17th, 2005, 08:52 AM

does any one know how invented these goddam two-stroke rickshaws??

swerveut

November 17th, 2005, 09:14 AM

That piece of history would be complicated cause rickshaws are spread around from Pakistan to malaysia and thailand

huit

November 20th, 2005, 12:50 AM

New Rickshaw
http://lahore.metblogs.com/archives/Rickshaw1.jpg

Have a closer look at this picture! This ain't Pakistan. Infact, its India! The brand of the ricksha is TVS, which is an Indian company.

UnitedPakistan

November 20th, 2005, 03:05 AM

Indeed! And it wouldnt work in India either because it wont be cost effiecient!

Red aRRow

November 21st, 2005, 06:44 PM

sher-e-lahore

November 23rd, 2005, 07:49 PM

First-ever automobile policy on the anvil
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ISLAMABAD: The government will start negotiations with the automobile industry on a new automobile policy after the appointment of a new chairman of the Engineering Development Board, a senior government official told the Daily Times on Tuesday.

“The work on first-ever automobile policy has not actually been started. The EDB will hold the first meeting with the auto industry after the appointment of a new EDB chairman,” said the official.

According to him, there is likelihood that the present Chairman of the Board of Investment (BoI), Waseem Haqqie, could be appointed the new head of the EDB. He said his name had been proposed for the slot. No official at the BoI was available to tell anything about the appointment of Mr Haqqie as new chairman of the EDB.

The official said that the local auto industry was seriously concerned over the permission of import of used cars under gift, baggage and transfer of residence schemes. However, at the same time, according to the official, the government has assured that it will encourage the expansion of local automobile industry.

He said the EDB was expected to hold talks with the Pakistan Automobile Manufacturers Association (PAMA), the representative body of the industry either later this month or early next month as some of the important work on different policies regarding the industry had been delayed due to last month’s earthquake.

The major constraint in the policy was that automobile industry was opposing the government’s policy of bringing the sector into the tax regime, as the automobile manufacturers were demanding different slabs of duties and taxes for different industrial firms, the official said. The auto sector was seeking a kind of protection from the government, the official added.

The government was all for protecting the local auto industry, but it also wanted the industry to prepare itself for competition under the WTO regime. The official said, adding the WTO had not extended Pakistan’s deletion programme under which the auto sector was required to become more and more dependent on indigenous parts.

Under the liberalized WTO regime, the government cannot continue to depend on the deletion programme. At one time, the government had approached the WTO for continuation of the deletion programme, however the government did not pursue the case with the WTO.

The official said the policy would be devised in such a way that could encourage the auto sector in its expansion plan. The car manufacturers had already chalked out a plan to invest Rs 52 billion a year to expand their production to bridge the gap between demand and supply. The policy would ensure that the expansion plan was pursued vigorously by the car manufacturers, the official added.

sher-e-lahore

December 3rd, 2005, 02:01 AM

Toyota Motor Corporation The new Belta
Toyota The New Belta Car Looks nice ...

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Featuring one of the smallest minimum turning radiuses and one of the best fuel efficiency performances in its class, the new Belta also boasts a comfortable and roomy cabin and a large cargo space. In addition, the Belta possesses the supple and stable driving feel that only a sedan can provide, as well as a wide range of advanced equipment and class-leading safety and environmental performance. With a sophisticated feel that enables drivers to enjoy the fun and satisfaction of driving, the new Belta, Toyota's smallest sedan, is further characterized by beautiful styling and the ability to meet the needs of a broad range of customers, including those who prefer compact hatchbacks and similarly sized vehicles.

Monthly sales targets 3,000 units

Dealer launch Soon....

sher-e-lahore

December 3rd, 2005, 02:07 AM

Allso All-new Suzuki SX4: the new sport X-Over

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Powertrain and Transmission
Advanced powerplant and drivetrain technologies enable fun, dynamic performance in any environment. There is a choice of three engines: 1,490cc 73kW/99hp and 1,586cc 79kW/107hp petrol units and 1,910cc 88kW/120hp diesel unit. The diesel engine is equipped with a particulate filter.

Of note, the Suzuki SX4 is the only car in the class that features the combination of diesel, 6MT and 4x4. This combination delivers class-leading performance. A flat torque curve guarantees powerful acceleration and smooth performance.

A new six-speed manual transmission – available with the diesel engine only – brings out the full potential of the engine and provides maximum driving pleasure.

Rigid body / Safety
The SX4 allows drivers to enjoy an active driving experience. The rigid body ensures crisp handling to meet European demands. The Suzuki SX4 also offers high levels of torsional and bending rigidity. High-rigidity suspension mounts augment the body’s rigidity to draw out the suspension’s full potential.

Active, or preventative, safety features begin with the vehicle’s design. The commanding driving position provides a wide field of vision for the driver. ABS with electronic brake-force distribution (EBD) is standard on all models. An electronic stability program is available on selected models.

SX4
Dimensions (mm)
(Overall length) 4100/4140 (Overall width) 1730/1755 (Overall height) 1565 - 1620

Engine
- 1.5L 73kW(99hp)/5,600rpm 133Nm/4,100rpm
- 1.6L VVT 79kW(107hp)/5,600rpm 145Nm/4,000rpm
- 1.9L DDiS 88kW(120hp)/3,500rpm 280Nm/2,000rpm

sher-e-lahore

December 3rd, 2005, 02:09 AM

100 new models of cars introduced in 16 months

KARACHI: Pakistan has few multinational auto manufacturers and assemblers such as world-renowned brands Suzuki, Toyota and Honda, but the approval by the ministry of finance to import reconditioned cars in the budget 2004-05 after about a decade has put a new life in the business of small car dealers.

The private sector importers had so far introduced more than new 90 models of small and new cars, including Hilux, four-wheelers, double cabin and others vehicles, which not only attracted big investors to this business but also a big number of customers who want to get a quality and strong car without paying a single penny of own money.

The listed companies, however, were not behind the private sector and have taken full advantage of the government’s approval to import new models of their company’s brand. Pak Suzuki Coomany, the leading auto manufacturer of Pakistan for the past 25 years because of its dynamic sale of Mehran 800cc and Cultus 1000cc and Margala, has imported Complete Build Unit (CBU) of Liana (1600cc Car), Jimny (Jeep 1300cc Five Door), Grand Vitra (EL-7) (2700cc Five Door Jeep), APV Van (1500cc).

Indus Motor has introduced popular brands of Toyota. During the past 16 months, the company has imported Camry 2400cc, Altis 1800cc, Land Cruiser, Parado, RAV and different models of Hilux pickup. Similarly, the Honda Atlas car has presented new models of Honda Accord cars, and Dewan Farooq group is importing Sonata, Coupe and Terraca.

The permission by the government on import of reconditioned cars could halt further investment by multinational auto companies in Pakistan.

According to a source, “over 80 percent investment plans of the listed companies have cooled down since July to till date.” Only 10 percent investment has been made in the auto business, and 10 percent is in the pipeline, the source claimed.

The automobile industry has chalked out a plan of Rs 80 billion investments in Pakistan’s auto industry, but the government’s decision for the enhancement of depreciation cost on used vehicles compelled the auto industry to review their policies.

The Benazir Bhutto government banned the import of reconditioned cars on January 24, 1994 to protect the local industry, especially Toyota and Honda, as both the companies had set up their plants in 1994-05. Since then, the dealers were unable to import used or reconditioned cars because of heavy customs duties. During the past 10 years (1994-2004) the demand for vehicles went up, but the companies did not expand their production in keeping with the rising demand.

“The demand and supply gap with regard to cars had touched 125,000-150,000 vehicles in 2004-05,” said a government official. “The authorized dealers of these companies were charging higher own-money on the booking of cars from a customer,” he added.

He said the federal government has taken this decision only to ease the demand and supply gap and this gap would be overcome in the next two or three years.

In the first five months of the current fiscal year, “the private car dealers had imported 9,600 used or reconditioned cars from Japan,” said H M Shahzad, chairman of the All Pakistan Motor Dealers Association (APMDA). Till Nov 26, almost 8,000 used or recondition cars have been imported, and another shipment of 1,600 vehicles is to be anchored on Nov 28, he added.

The finance division has collected a revenue of Rs 2.95 billion from this import of vehicles under the Gift, Transfer of Residence and Personal Baggage Schemes. This amount is up 400 percent in July-November 2005 period, dealers claimed.

Mr Shahzad said: “The revenue department is likely to collect around Rs 8 billion to Rs 10 billion in the current fiscal year. This revenue can further go up if the government allows private parties the direct import of used or reconditioned cars.” He said the dealers have to buy a gift paper, whose cost is Rs 1,00,000.

The private sector is importing around 700 models, but there is a huge demand for 90 to 100 models of different vehicles, he said.

“Customers demand Toyota Corolla, Toyota Primo, Toyota Aliens, Toyota Mark-II, Grand-D, Toyota Platz, Toyota Vitz, Daihatsu, Honda Accord CL-7, CL-9 Land Cruiser, Toyota Parado (2700-3400), Chevrolet, Toyota Double cabin Vigo, Toyota Hilex Pickup or Van and Mercedes E-200, C-200” a dealer said.

“The new models are being fetched from Japan after an huge investment by dealers,” Mr Shahzad said. “Customers do not have to wait to get a car after his full payment,” he added.

The local auto manufacturers and assemblers produced over 47,171 units of local brands in the country, up 26 percent compared with the last four months (July-October) of 2004.

sher-e-lahore

December 3rd, 2005, 02:11 AM

Automobile Special: Pakistan is third largest user of CNG
KARACHI: Pakistan has become the third largest user of Compressed Natural Gas (CNG) due to consistency in government’s policies to convert petrol and diesel vehicles into gas.

“Every year in Pakistan, some 55,000 vehicles are being converted to CNG from petrol and diesel,” Malik Khuda Bakhsh, chairman, CNG Dealers Association said. “More than 650,000 vehicles have so far converted to CNG,” he added. He said Pakistan is the third-largest user of CNG vehicles after behind Argentina and Brazil.

He said the country could save Rs 260 million foreign exchange annually if the government to provide more incentives to this sector such as loans and price reduction on imported CNG kit.

“The price of a CNG kit is around Rs 27,000 to Rs 30,000,” said a dealer, who converts petrol or diesel vehicles to CNG. The CNG kit prices went up to Rs 30,000 after rising petrol price to Rs 57 last month, he said.

Mr Bakhsh said, the Sui Southern Gas Company (SSGC) is now giving 8 per square inch (PSI) pressure to the gas stations in Karachi. On the contrary, the Sui Northern Gas Pipelines Limited (SNGPL) is supplying gas with a pressure of 15 psi in Punjab and NWFP. “SSGC has assured the association that the gas pressure would be enhanced to 15 PSI soon,” he added.

Sohail Ali Khan, a CNG car dealer said around 35 percent of customers of the used cars preferred to convert their vehicles on CNG. Mostly they belonged to lower middle class segment and wanted to fulfill their desire of having four-wheel conveyance.

An expert on energy sector when contacted said the CNG stations have been set up in the residential areas. Obviously any CNG station in the residential area would get supply from the same gas pipeline having domestic level pressure. There are some filling stations that are constructed on high ground level where cars have to stand in a steep position. The stations of PSO at Water Pump, F B Area were one such example.

There was a strong need to have more CNG stations and increase in CNG points at the existing petrol pumps of PSO, Shell, Caltex who have allocated only two points.

Secondly, the big marketing companies like PSO, Shell, Caltex could afford to have more compressors so that the long queue issue is solved at the earliest, a CNG car owner said. He said CNG the close relative of LNG and as a natural gas has the same basic characteristics.

Red aRRow

December 3rd, 2005, 04:52 PM

Uhhh are you sure they are launching these two cars in Pakistan?? any links?

asfar001

December 3rd, 2005, 08:44 PM

yea ...are these cars being lauched in pakistan or what

Red aRRow

December 3rd, 2005, 09:42 PM

yea ...are these cars being lauched in pakistan or what

I think sher-e-Lahore is BSing. Belta is meant for domestic market i.e. Japan only and was launched in November.

UnitedPakistan

December 3rd, 2005, 09:51 PM

Its being launched in Pakistan so stop ranting everyone.

sher-e-lahore

December 3rd, 2005, 10:45 PM

I think sher-e-Lahore is BSing. Belta is meant for domestic market i.e. Japan only and was launched in November.

My friend your wrong the way Pakistan's auto market is going you won't belive it growing so well the growth rate is going high and high .... it will be lunching in Pakistan soon .. just take it easy and don't make commits like this thank u ..

unitedPakistan is right I agree with you bro..

swerveut

December 3rd, 2005, 11:06 PM

The Belta looks like the Toyota Echo here in the West. Are these the same cars?

Red aRRow

December 3rd, 2005, 11:08 PM

swerveut I think the Echo is known as 'Platz' in Japan and is a different model altogether. The Belta is based on the Yaris/Vitz platform.

Oh and there is nothing on www.toyota-indus.com about it. This is a model just meant for Japan as of now...the headline of this topic is misleading as it is not being released in Pakistan for now.

Official News Release (http://www.toyota.co.jp/en/news/05/1128.html)

UnitedPakistan

December 4th, 2005, 12:28 AM

These pictures were posted on Pakwheels.com. They know a hell of a lot more about whats happening in the Pakistani Automobile market.

swerveut

December 4th, 2005, 01:08 AM

Why dont people quote the source of whatever they post on here is beyond my knowledge. Then it sparks off useless debates about who is right or wrong.

pakboy

December 4th, 2005, 02:25 AM

wat are the prices for them in pk

UnitedPakistan

December 4th, 2005, 02:27 AM

Why dont people quote the source of whatever they post on here is beyond my knowledge. Then it sparks off useless debates about who is right or wrong.
If you look closely the pictures have been watermarked by the site. BTW I think we should impose a rule where a source is required.

Gumnaam

December 6th, 2005, 10:29 AM

Well, I have seen an advertisement for launching Toyota Belta in Pakistan in an english newspaper "The News", don't know about that Suzuki X-Over though..

Red aRRow

December 6th, 2005, 11:33 AM

Well, I have seen an advertisement for launching Toyota Belta in Pakistan in an english newspaper "The News", don't know about that Suzuki X-Over though..
Wow coool...can you please scan it for us?

sher-e-lahore

December 11th, 2005, 01:25 AM

UK's taxis to be manufactured by Pak company..
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Prime Transport Limited (PTL), Karachi, plans to manufacture 6000 purpose-built taxis annually that would have UK technology installed. The plan was unveiled and presented to Sindh Governor Dr Ishrat-ul-Ibad by PTL Chief Executive Muhammad Dawood Khan at the Governor House on Wednesday.

Dawood Khan explained the salient features of the project and requested the governor to help his company in acquiring 450 acres of land to start the proposed venture without delay.

The PTL CEO informed the Governor that out of the 6000 taxis, 3000 would be used in the country while the remaining 3000 would be exported. The cost of the project would be about $200 million and would employ at least 2500 workforce of various skills and trades. It is expected that a parallel ancillary and vendor industry would complement this novel project.

It may be recalled that the Board of Revenue has earmarked 17000 acres of land at Dhabeji that would ensure a convenient movement of goods to and from Dhabeji Industrial Area. PTL has already submitted expression of interest to install its manufacturing unit at this site as it realises that the area is ideal for such a venture.

Khan said that the taxi service would be satellite-controlled, which would be provided with call centres for controlling dispatch of vehicles accompanied by a technical and operational staff. A residential colony is also on the anvil to house the workforce and avoid commuting from long distances. A new power generation plant and water supply facility would be erected before the project is commissioned.

Dr Ibad listened to the proposal with interest and promised the PTL CEO that he (Governor) would visit Dhabeji to personally see the area that is destined to be an industrial city.

The governor asked Khalid Mahmood Soomro, Member Board of Revenue Land Utilisation, to expedite the process of land allotment to facilitate the prospective investors, industrialists and businessmen start their business ventures. He firmly believed that the new industrial city would be a great success.

Others present at the meeting were PTL Director Mahreen D Khan, company Secretary Nasim Ahmed, Co-ordinator Ismat Abbas, Chief Minister's Investment Cell's Chairman Muslim Abbasi, Additional Secretary, LTI&C Department Kaleem Makki and acting Director General of Board of Investment, Karachi,

That would be great becouse we have great taxi's called black cabs enough spaces for 5 ppls ect ...

asfar001

December 11th, 2005, 10:09 AM

shouldnt this be in the automobile industry thread

Red aRRow

January 12th, 2006, 11:25 AM

January 11, 2006 08:00 AM US Eastern Timezone
Argentina, Brazil, Pakistan and Italy Account for 78% of the Worlds CNG Vehicle Market
DUBLIN, Ireland--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Jan. 11, 2006--Research and Markets (http://www.researchandmarkets.com/reports/c30592) has announced the addition of Extended Expert View: CNG in Europe - Current Trends and Future Prospects to their offering.

The environmental and economic advantages of Compressed Natural Gas (CNG) are well documented. However, utilisation of CNG as a road fuel in Europe remains very modest with only limited penetration into the European car parc. This report examines the existing penetration of CNG as a road fuel in Europe and highlights its future prospects.

Scope

-- Insight into the current level of CNG penetration in Europe

-- Analysis of the structural and market based factors impacting CNG use

-- Broadly based insight into the dynamics within Europe's leading CNG markets and an overview of the factors that have promoted growth in these markets

-- Insight into how rising gasoline prices have increased the viability of CNG

Highlights

Globally, CNG consumption is heavily concentrated into a small number of markets. Collectively Argentina, Brazil, Pakistan and Italy account for 78% of the worlds CNG powered vehicles.

In Europe, other than in Italy, CNG use remains very minimal. France, Germany, Italy, Ireland and Sweden are the main European CNG markets outside of Italy though even here rates of penetration into the overall car parc are minimal and represent only a fraction of the global CNG market.

Europe has, or can easily put in place, the factors required to support greater utilisation of CNG. Thus, given sufficient political willingness, the wider spread use of CNG as a road fuel in Europe can be achieved with relative ease.

Reasons to Purchase

-- Assess the likely future direction of the European CNG market

-- Highlight which individual markets are currently leading CNG use in Europe and why

-- Gain an understanding of how structural factors impact on the future development of the European CNG market

Topics Covered

CHAPTER 1

CNG use in Europe is currently very limited, though could be significantly increased with relatively little effort.

CHAPTER 2 INTRODUCTION

CNG technology has a number of cost and environmental advantages which are contributing to its continued growth globally.

CHAPTER 3 MARKET CONTEXT

There are five main factors driving CNG penetration and impacting its future growth in individual markets.

Around 78% of the world's 4.7 million NGVs are located in four countries.

The penetration of NGVs into the wider Car Parc elsewhere in Europe outside of Italy is minimal.

Outside of Italy, five markets account for around 14% of European NGVs, though numbers vary widely.

CHAPTER 4 MARKET TRENDS

The relatively well developed nature of the Italian CNG market has been driven by proactive Government initiatives.

The recent growth in the popularity of CNG in Germany has been driven by a Governmental and industry protocol developed in 2001.

Strong tax incentives and support from motor manufacturers have catalysed French CNG use. CNG use in Sweden and Ireland is surprisingly high given the limited penetration of gas into the wider energy mix.

Natural gas plays a sufficiently strong role in the European energy mix to prevent supply availability being a barrier to wider CNG use.

Rising petrol prices have increased the attractiveness of CNG in Europe's leading.

CNG markets

CHAPTER 5 CONCLUSIONS

The advantages of CNG are clear and as such the onus must now be on governments to further develop its use in Europe.

Related reports and contact details

LIST OF FIGURES

For more information visit http://www.researchandmarkets.com/reports/c30592

SOURCE (http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20060111005032&newsLang=en)

sher-e-lahore

March 8th, 2006, 08:51 PM

guy's guess what Alif is out now :eek2: :runaway: and it's allready in the showrooms now ... I was thinking has been some time nothing on Alif no update nothing at all from you guy's ..... oh well at least we got something better then stupid smoky Rikshaw :)

Retail prices
TMC Alif Car: 172,500
TMC Bay delivery van: 189,750
TMC Bay pickup: 166,750
Add Rs. 19,000 for CNG kit

Specs:
Length: 2900 mm
Width: 1360
Height: 1590
Wheel base: 1880

Engine: Single cylinder four stroke
196.9 cc

Alif car - pictures taken at showroom
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UnitedPakistan

March 8th, 2006, 09:25 PM

No one will buy it...You cant expect these to replace rishsha's seriously!

adil

March 9th, 2006, 01:08 AM

sher-e-lahore

March 9th, 2006, 02:47 AM

^ Why are the rickshaws so hard for u to let go of. The rickshaw's shape and three wheels are not what make them cultural icons, its the wonderful decoarations on them. I'm sure these things can be docorated like the rickshaws. Besides the four wheel, a proper body, and cleaner engine are good reasons why they will be successful.

I think they will sell.

yeh bro I agree with you on this one ... one more thing when ever I vist Pakistan Lahore I allways drive there to be honest yaar the Rickshaws dont even have back break lights don't even know when they about to STOP when ur behinde them allways pul out from anywhere beside all this the main point is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much smoke oh my god it can kill you thats what i would say i allways end up coughing when ever Ricksaws go pass me :sleepy:

this one looks so much better ... but i can see unitedPakistan bro's point of view but c'om on yaar u know we can make this one look like the old one if thats what u wanna see ?

swerveut

March 9th, 2006, 03:50 AM

I think the price will be the biggest put-off. You can buy an older model of a small car in that price! and I dont really think Rickshaw owners who can only afford raggedy old vehicles would be able to make that big of an investment - only to get it snatched at gunpoint later.

huit

March 9th, 2006, 08:47 PM

I personally think this is hideous... I'd rather buy a 1985 Suzuki FX than this!!!
It looks as if a BMW car did all the bad deeds one could think of... and it was then incarnated as a hideous pig in it's next life! ;)

ABBASIA

March 10th, 2006, 06:49 AM

Left-hand drive cars exported

KARACHI, March 9: Transmission Motor Company has exported two first left-hand drive vehicles to Qatar. The keys of two of its vehicle variants, Alif Cars and Bay Pickup Truck, were handed over to Jassim M. Sharshani for onward delivery to Ahmad Bin Sultan Al Assiri of Qatar.

The manufacturer of these vehicles is fully geared to meet the needs of left- and right-hand drive vehicles to cater to the local as well as export market. This diversification capability will enable the company to tap the export market and earn valuable foreign exchange for the country.

The trial export orders are expected to result in more orders from the emirate of Qatar, as the company has significant orders from Africa and South America, says a press release.

http://www.dawn.com/2006/03/10/ebr20.htm

Tumhara Bap

March 10th, 2006, 08:58 AM

^ How are they a eyesore?

Its part of our culture believe it or not.

I am talking about the paintings on the Ricksha

part of our culture ? sure they are now part of our culture, but were not part of culture in the 1950's.

This new Alif is very nice. They are relatively cheap, beautiful, enviornment friendly, no noise.

Alif will also become part of our culture.

sher-e-lahore

March 10th, 2006, 03:17 PM

Alif is going to make Pakistan friendly enviorment it can help many ppls who are suffering right not from many chest problams ....

sher-e-lahore

March 10th, 2006, 03:19 PM

Little attention was paid to pollution and environmental issues in Pakistan until the early 1990s. Related concerns, such as sanitation and potable water, received earlier scrutiny. In 1987 only about 6 percent of rural residents and 51 percent of urban residents had access to sanitary facilities; in 1990 a total of 97.6 million Pakistanis, or approximately 80 percent of the population, had no access to flush toilets. Greater success has been achieved in bringing potable water within reach of the people; nearly half the population enjoyed such access by 1990. However, researchers at the Pakistan Medical Research Council, recognizing that a large proportion of diseases in Pakistan are caused by the consumption of polluted water, have been questioning the "safe" classification in use in the 1990s. Even the 38 percent of the population that receives its water through pipelines runs the risk of consuming seriously contaminated water, although the problem varies by area. In Punjab, for example, as much as 90 percent of drinking water comes from groundwater, as compared with only 9 percent in Sindh.

The central government's Perspective Plan (1988-2003) and previous five-year plans do not mention sustainable development strategies. Further, there have been no overarching policies focused on sustainable development and conservation. The state has focused on achieving selfsufficiency in food production, meeting energy demands, and containing the high rate of population growth, not on curtailing pollution or other environmental hazards.

In 1992 Pakistan's National Conservation Strategy Report attempted to redress the previous inattention to the nation's mounting environmental problem. Drawing on the expertise of more than 3,000 people from a wide array of political affiliations, the government produced a document outlining the current state of environmental health, its sustainable goals, and viable program options for the future.

Of special concern to environmentalists is the diminishing forest cover in watershed regions of the northern highlands, which has only recently come under close scrutiny. Forest areas have been thoughtlessly denuded. Deforestation, which occurred at an annual rate of 0.4 percent in 1989-90, has contributed directly to the severity of the flooding problem faced by the nation in the early 1990s.

As industry has expanded, factories have emitted more and more toxic effluents into the air and water. The number of textile and food processing mills in rural Punjab has grown greatly since the mid-1970s, resulting in pollution of its rivers and irrigation canals. Groundwater quality throughout the country has also suffered from rapidly increasing use of pesticides and fertilizers aimed at promoting more intensive cropping and facilitating self-sufficiency in food production.

The National Conservation Strategy Report has documented how solid and liquid excreta are the major source of water pollution in the country and the cause of widespread waterborne diseases. Because only just over half of urban residents have access to sanitation, the remaining urban excreta are deposited on roadsides, into waterways, or incorporated into solid waste. Additionally, only three major sewage treatment plants exist in the country; two of them operate intermittently. Much of the untreated sewage goes into irrigation systems, where the wastewater is reused, and into streams and rivers, which become sewage carriers at low-flow periods. Consequently, the vegetables grown from such wastewater have serious bacteriological contamination. Gastroenteritis, widely considered in medical circles to be the leading cause of death in Pakistan, is transmitted through waterborne pollutants.

Low-lying land is generally used for solid waste disposal, without the benefit of sanitary landfill methods. The National Conservation Strategy has raised concerns about industrial toxic wastes also being dumped in municipal disposal areas without any record of their location, quantity, or toxic composition. Another important issue is the contamination of shallow groundwater near urban industries that discharge wastes directly into the ground.

Water in Karachi is so contaminated that almost all residents boil it before consuming it. Because sewerage and water lines have been laid side by side in most parts of the city, leakage is the main cause of contamination. High levels of lead also have been found in water in Islamabad and Rawalpindi.

Air pollution has also become a major problem in most cities. There are no controls on vehicular emissions, which account for 90 percent of pollutants. The National Conservation Strategy Report claims that the average Pakistani vehicle emits twenty-five times as much carbon monoxide, twenty times as many hydrocarbons, and more than three and one-half times as much nitrous oxide in grams per kilometer as the average vehicle in the United States.

Another major source of pollution, not mentioned in the National Conservation Strategy Report, is noise. The hyperurbanization experienced by Pakistan since the 1960s has resulted in loose controls for heavy equipment operation in densely populated areas, as well as in crowded streets filled with buses, trucks, automobiles, and motorcycles, which often honk at each other and at the horse-drawn tongas (used for transporting people) and the horse-drawn rehras (used for transporting goods).

sher-e-lahore

March 10th, 2006, 03:26 PM

Fight pollution in Pakistan

Did you ever notice the layer of smog, dust and smoke that hangs above Karachi? Or the smell of gasoline that permeates the air? The level of air pollution in Pakistan's two largest cities, Karachi and Lahore, is estimated to be 20 times higher than World Health Organization standards. Islamabad, the capital, is perpetually smothered by a thick cloud of
Smog that hides views of the Margalla Hills that tower over the city's tree-lined streets.

Yes, pollution is alive and well in Pakistan. Whether it's from rickshaws, factories or other sources, Pakistanis are regularly breathing in pollution.

Sadly, few know about its disastrous effects on their and their children's health. At the least, pollution causes coughing, sore throat and nasal discharge. At the worst it leads to asthma, tumors, lung damage and death.

You can start the fight against pollution by working to educate Pakistanis about pollution: its description, causes and effects, and what they can do about it.

Begin by studying the material available in America about pollution. The internet is the best place to start. There are numerous environmental organizations in the US and abroad that have excellent websites about ecology and pollution. Check out what information they have available about pollution. Look for articles that explain pollution in a straightforward manner.

Do the same thing with organizations not on the web. Find out if they have free pamphlets or booklets about pollution and its effects on health, as well as what citizens can do about it.

Once you've gathered all of the material that you feel will help Pakistanis abroad deal with pollution, get the permission of the publishers or writers to get the literature translated into Urdu. This should not be a problem, but it is still important to check if the work is copyrighted.

Get the articles translated into Urdu. If you have some funds, get a professional translator or translators to do it. Make sure to give them a deadline so that they finish the job quickly and you can get the material printed.

Printing requires some funding. If the burden is too much for you, then collect donations from family, friends and Pakistani-American businesses to cover the costs. Make sure you send a thank you note along with a complimentary copy of the pamphlets to them to show that their money was used properly.

Now it's time to send the material to Pakistan. Distribute it amongst family and friends. Also, give it to a couple of newspapers in Pakistan so that they can publish it for the benefit of their audience.

Also on your next trip to Pakistan, find out how the issue of pollution and environmental issues in general are discussed in elementary and junior high schools in your city. Talk to both students and teachers. Show them examples of how ecology and environmentalism are taught in America, such as through textbooks, films and class projects. When you go back to America, make a point of translating this kind of information as well and send it to interested teachers in Pakistan.

Another way you can help is by developing articles for visitors to Pakistan. The subject: how a visitor to the country can keep him or herself healthy and safe from the effects of pollution while visiting.

Developing a website about pollution in Pakistan is also a wonderful way to educate others about this topic. In addition, because it will reach Pakistanis all around the world, it may inspire others to do something to fight pollution in Pakistan as well. Your site should include your translated pamphlets, information about what people can do about pollution in Pakistan and statistics. Also, add links to sites that discuss the topic.

Finally, try to target industries in Pakistan who you think are the number one polluters in Pakistan. Start a campaign in Pakistan's newspapers and on your website of making them responsible for it, exposing them and encouraging them to adopt certain measures. By the same token appreciate those industries that do try to adopt practices to avoid pollution.

sher-e-lahore

March 11th, 2006, 03:52 PM

More update on Alif

THE VEHICLES

ALIF CAR
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The car is an ideal entry-level vehicle. Now for the same price, you can graduate from a motorcycle to a car and enjoy the comfort and safety of a four-wheeler.

Economically priced to suit the pocket of the price conscious, its low running cost makes its usage extremely economical. Go for the CNG option and you not only prove your Green credentials but also make tremendous savings on fuel costs. Available in 5 eye-pleasing colours with the colour green reserved for its usage as Green Cab (this restriction is only for vehicles being registered in Pakistan).

The car is an excellent choice as a commercial vehicle as a replacement of the existing three wheelers, and its Green Cab option can be fitted with a digital taxi fare meter on the customer's request.

BAY PICKUP
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Bay Pickup is a multi-purpose vehicle that can easily accommodate 300 kg* of multifarious goods. Its 10.44 sq. ft. bed made of strong steel can carry a variety of loads.

It is especially ideal for plying in the rural areas where a mixture of load has to be carried by the farmers to and from their markets. All this can be done in an economical and safe manner on the Bay Pickup. It allows for mobility of personnel as well as transportation of goods like poultry, feed, fertilizer and produce. The CNG option brings in additional savings in the running cost.

BAY DELIVER VAN
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A compact sturdy vehicle, the Bay delivery Van offers excellent opportunity to courier companies and distribution agencies whose core business is the movement of perishables and FMCGs (Fast Moving Consumer Goods). Food delivery outlets will also find the Bay Delivery Van an ideal vehicle to cater to their business needs.

The ability to maneuver easily through the narrow, winding and congested areas like wholesale markets and inner city areas allows for easy freight of goods to and from their destinations. Ease of branding on its body makes it a very visible identity in motion, bringing your services to your customer's doorstep. The CNG option brings in additional savings in the running cost.

THE BENEFITS - ALIF CAR

Offered as an entry-level vehicle, this most economical passenger car comes with a price tag that is unbeatable by anyone else in the market. Alongside economy, it also offers features of paramount importance… safety and environment-friendly operations. Seat belts are a standard feature in all Alif cars, while the low emission levels, plus the CNG option makes it an environment-friendly car. The strong steel body-on chassis and roll over bar protection contribute to its safety.

These vehicles have the capacity to seat 4 passengers including the driver. They are driven by a single cylinder four-stroke low noise water-cooled engine, which gives 25 km to a liter.

The vehicle is being offered as an ideal alternative to the currently plying three wheelers (Rickshaws), most of which are due to be phased out as they are running on 2 stroke engines. The CNG fitted Green cab is an excellent commercial vehicle that gives a good return on investment.

THE FEATURES - ALIF CAR

Dimensions

Length (mm) 2900
Width (mm) 1360
Height (mm) 1590
WheelBase (mm) 1880
Ground Clearance (mm) 170

Body / Chasis

Reinforced Ladder Type Steel
Chassis Steel Body w/High
Strength Pipe Frame

Power Train

Engine - Single Cylinder Four
Stroke Water Cooled
Piston Displacement (cc) - 196.9
Bore & Stroke (mm) -
63.5 x 62.2
Maximum Out Put (KW@RPM) -
10.92@7500
Maximum Torque (N.m9RPM) -
16.14@6000
Transmission Type - 4 Speed
sequential with auxiliary reverse
Assy
Drive - Rear Wheel through
propeller shaft
Clutch - Wet type, 7 plates
Fuel - Gasoline/CNG*

Wheel & Suspension

Tyre Size - 4.50-12
Suspension front - Mc Pherson
Strut with Coil Spring
Rear - Leaf Spring with Shock
Absorber
Brakes

Brake Type - 4 Wheel Hydraulic,
Drum Type
Parking Brake - Mechanical Type

Steering System

Steering Type - Re-circulating
Ball Type
Turning Radius (m) - 3.9

Electrical System

Battery - 12 Volts
Ignition System - CDI
Self Starter - Electrical Motor
Type

Fuel Consumption

Fuel Consumption - 25 Km / Liter

Capacity

Seating - 2 Persons
Cargo Capacity - 1.03 cu. ft.
Fuel Tank (Liters) - 8
Engine Oil (Liters) - 1.0
Auxiliary Reverse Assy Oil (Liters)
- 0.1
Differential Oil (Liters) - 0.5
Maximum Load (Kg) - 300
Curb Weight (Kg) - 450
*Gas Cylinder (Liters) - 25
(Water Capacity)

THE DEALERS

TMC has already set up its 3S facilities and will be constantly expanding its network nationwide. With 67% indigenization already achieved, the availability of spares is a non-issue. The Company firmly believes in providing full back up support to the customers of its vehicles.

It has already charted out strategic regions from where the vehicles and their back up services will be made available to its customers. They will have a complete stock of spares and a service division to promptly attend to any technical or mechanical problems. This dealership network will provide for easy access to the customers for all their vehicle related needs.

Karachi

TMC Razi Motors Karachi 2 S Facility
18-C, Mereweather Road,
Shahrah-e-Faisal, Karachi
Phone: 021-5651651-2
Fax: 021-5661698
E-mail: tmcrazimotors@gmail.com

TMC Imtiaz Motors 2 S Facility
Rafi Heights Shop No.1-452/4,
Business Recorder Road, Garden East Karachi
Phones :021-4219774
Cell: 0300-2780764
E-mail: imish900@hotmail.com

TMC Frere Motors 3 S Facility
G-2, Jilani Mansion, A-M-18, Akber Road,
Off: Frere Road , Karachi
Phone: 021-2745987. 2745810
Cell : 0300 2945051

TMC New Jamil Automobiles (Generator & Spare Parts)
Shop No. 65 Al-Noor Chamber,
Preedy Street Plaza Square, Karachi
Phone: 021-2727086
Fax: 021-2721142
Lahore

TMC Punjab Motor Lahore 3 S Facility
28-Mozang Road Lahore
Phone: 042-6305101
Cell: 0300-8449726
Rawalpindi

TMC Usman Motors 3 S Facility
P – 752/ 2, Saidpur Road
Banni Chowk
Rawalpindi
Cell: 0333-5604730
E-mail: mansense@gmail.com

Multan

TMC Punjab Motor Multan 3 S Facility
227-Sher Shah Road
Near Dera Adda
Multan
Phone: 061-4547515
Cell: 0321-6325253
E-mail: tmcpunjabmotors@yahoo.com

Mirpur Khas

TMC Razi Motors Mirpurkhas 3 S Facility
Shop No: 1 & 2,Plot No 6
Mirpurkhas Road, Saad Town
Mirpur Khas
Cell : 0333 -2968245

sher-e-lahore

March 11th, 2006, 03:56 PM

sher-e-lahore

March 11th, 2006, 04:07 PM

If you wanna make your own Alif your way color ect please vist offical Alif web site http://www.tmcpk.com/van.asp#top

BAY DELIVER VAN

Now you don't need a lot of money to get yourself a set of wheels….. TMC presents 3 highly affordable, fuel-efficient environment friendly and safe vehicles. The passenger car allows you to save money, while the commercial variants, Bay Pick up and Delivery Van allows you to make money! Easy to use and easy to maintain, the environment-friendly CNG option in these vehicles bring in additional savings.

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BAY PICKUP

Now you don't need a lot of money to get yourself a set of wheels….. TMC presents 3 highly affordable, fuel-efficient environment friendly and safe vehicles. The passenger car allows you to save money, while the commercial variants, Bay Pick up and Delivery Van allows you to make money! Easy to use and easy to maintain, the environment-friendly CNG option in these vehicles bring in additional savings.

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ALIF CAR

Now you don't need a lot of money to get yourself a set of wheels….. TMC presents 3 highly affordable, fuel-efficient environment friendly and safe vehicles. The passenger car allows you to save money, while the commercial variants, Bay Pick up and Delivery Van allows you to make money! Easy to use and easy to maintain, the environment-friendly CNG option in these vehicles bring in additional savings.

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CAN SEE SO MUCH MORE JUST GO ON TO THE WEBSITE http://www.tmcpk.com/pickup.asp#top

UnitedPakistan

March 11th, 2006, 04:52 PM

Why couldnt they make the front sleek if they were going to charge that much?

March 11th, 2006, 08:38 PM

All of them look like real small miniature cars, now im wondering .. its 200 C.C and WITH Cng, how can that Bay pickup possibly endure the weight of, say a Mid-Size Refrigerator? 200 C.C!

sher-e-lahore

March 11th, 2006, 11:20 PM

All of them look like real small miniature cars, now im wondering .. its 200 C.C and WITH Cng, how can that Bay pickup possibly endure the weight of, say a Mid-Size Refrigerator? 200 C.C!

Capacity

Seating - 2 Persons
Cargo Capacity - 1.03 cu. ft.
Fuel Tank (Liters) - 8
Engine Oil (Liters) - 1.0
Auxiliary Reverse Assy Oil (Liters)
- 0.1
Differential Oil (Liters) - 0.5
Maximum Load (Kg) - 300
Curb Weight (Kg) - 450
*Gas Cylinder (Liters) - 25
(Water Capacity)

for more info go on the web site http://www.tmcpk.com/ one click away

sher-e-lahore

May 30th, 2006, 12:40 AM

anyone seen Alif on the road yet any pics ?

PakiDoperz

May 30th, 2006, 07:44 AM

nah not a single alif.. revo is gettin in... i see atleast 4-5 revo every day

_BPS_

May 30th, 2006, 08:29 AM

I don't care what comes in next, as long as those old rikshaws are gone. God-damn, i hate the sound it makes when accelerating - sounds like its going 70km/h when really its going no faster then 40km/h.

by the way, these newer models look 10x better then the current rikshaws.

Scribbller

May 30th, 2006, 08:44 AM

X-entric

May 30th, 2006, 02:53 PM

I agree with you guys, we dont want no more rickshaws!
and the other day I was reading this news item that government of Punjab is producing some hideous , very VERY ugly CNG fitted rickshwas to replace existing ones.It cant get worse than this.

huit

May 30th, 2006, 04:30 PM

^ no actually, the news CNG 4-stroke one's look exactly the same as the older ones - infact, they look relatively better painted in all green with beige/khaki top. They make absolutely no noise and don't produce any pollution! I've seen tens of them on the roads. Infact, the older ones aren't allowed to ply on Mall Road now but the new ones can. This Alif is as fugly as the older one's in my opinion...

X-entric

May 31st, 2006, 12:23 AM

Huit, I jsut cant imagine a rickshaw with no noise :)
does it sound like scooter? or motor cycle?
will it last? :dunno:

sher-e-lahore

May 31st, 2006, 12:47 AM

‘Govt will pay new rickshaws’ mark-up’

* Pay Rs 28,000 and get a four-stroke rickshaw, CM tells rickshaw drivers
* Promises release of innocent rickshaw drivers
* Says no two-stroke rickshaws in big cities after 2007

LAHORE: Rickshaw drivers could get a CNG rickshaw for a Rs 28,000 down payment and the Punjab government would spend Rs 1 billion to pay the mark-up for CNG rickshaw loans, said Punjab Chief Minister Chaudhry Pervaiz Elahi.

Talking to an All Punjab Rickshaw and Taxi Drivers Association (APRTDA) delegation on Monday, he said CNG rickshaws would increase drivers’ income besides control environmental pollution and nobody would be deprived of their livelihood.

Elahi said that under the Green Punjab Programme to control environmental pollution, only four stroke CNG rickshaws would be allowed in Lahore after 2007 and public transport would gradually be converted to CNG. He said two-stroke rickshaws would be banned in five major cities of the province.

He said that unlike the Indian Supreme Court’s immediate ban on two-stroke rickshaws and buses, the Punjab government had given sufficient time to convert rickshaws and buses to CNG. The chief minister said the innocent rickshaw drivers among those arrested on May 4 would be released.

The delegation consisted of APRTDA Chairman Asghar Khan Mohmand, APRTDA President Chaudhry Muhammad Arshad, APRTDA Secretary General Syed Wali Shah, Latif Khan, Faqir Muhammad, Haji Taj Muhammad Khan, Gul Zaman Khan, Rana Muhammad Younus and Malik Muhammad Siddique.
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2006%5C05%5C16%5Cstory_16-5-2006_pg13_2

sher-e-lahore

May 31st, 2006, 12:59 AM

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From the Karachi Photo Blog
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Rickshaw does not necessarily have to be sober. Some parts, specially in Lahore or faisalabad etc. you can find really decorated Rickshaws like some photographer captured below:

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Rickshaws to go green with India’s helpPublished: Sunday, 19 June, 2005, 11:42 AM Doha Time

KARACHI: Pakistan is planning to introduce low noise, low emission environment friendly four-stroke CNG powered rickshaws initially in the country’s largest city Karachi and later on across Pakistan.

“In the first phase, about 3,000 CNG rickshaws will be introduced in city,” Adviser to Chief Minister on Environment and Alternate Energy, Noman Saigol said after meeting a delegation of India’s Tempo Bajaj Group.

The three-member delegation, led by Mohit Khosla and Ahmed Shabir, expressed interest in introducing CNG rickshaws and buses in Karachi and discussed various options in this regard. Tempo Bajaj Group is operating CNG rickshaws and buses in Delhi.

Dr Iqbal Saeed Khan, Director Environment Protection Agency (EPA) Sindh was also present on the occasion. “We would not impose total ban on existing rickshaws, but would give incentives to the owners including provision of new four-stroke CNG rickshaws on easy instalments. Indian group will provide us technical and financial support to some extent,” the adviser said.

“About 75% of air pollution is contributed by transport and our department is working on strategies to reduce it. For this, we are also having negotiations with local companies to bring environment friendly CNG rickshaws and buses in the city,” he said. -Internews

sher-e-lahore

May 31st, 2006, 01:14 AM

The Sitara City Cart

The First Pakistani Four Wheeler 200cc Four Stroke Engine

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The first Pakistani city cart for everyone! An affordable four wheeled vehicle, the Sitara City Cart is built rugged and strong for harsh local road conditions. Keeping safety in mind, seatbelts in the front and rear have been provided, with a roll bar and firm handle cars strategically placed. Soft padding all over adds to safety and comfort. Excellent fuel economy, depending on driving conditions, get upto 25km/liter.

Contact Information

Habib Maritime Pvt. Ltd. (Motorcar Division)
2nd Floor, UBL Building, I.I. Chundrigar Road,
Karachi, Pakistan.

Tel: 92-21-241-1887
Fax: 92-21-241-4581
Email: Sitara@HabibMotorcars.com

http://habibmotorcars.com/main.html

UnitedPakistan

May 31st, 2006, 01:20 AM

An insult to Pakistan...

pakboy

May 31st, 2006, 01:44 AM

where can you actully find these, i never seen any in lahore.

swerveut

May 31st, 2006, 07:27 AM

The designing is very classical and it might be a good option for families too poor to get a car. But it looks like a flimsy design with a top speed of just 60 km/h.
Would it really be road safe? It seems just like a souped up version of a golf cart.

Hope

May 31st, 2006, 07:40 AM

A beginning...hopefully it will evolve over the time

huit

May 31st, 2006, 10:54 AM

Huit, I jsut cant imagine a rickshaw with no noise :)
does it sound like scooter? or motor cycle?
will it last? :dunno:

yeah, it's noise-less... sounds more like a scooter than a motorcycle. Anyhow, it's a good replacement for the current noisy ones.

May 31st, 2006, 12:44 PM

More like an advanced version of the Flintstones vehicle !

May 31st, 2006, 12:45 PM

^ That's good, the current ones are a menace!

UnitedPakistan

May 31st, 2006, 01:24 PM

Well we can now look at Adam Motors and say ohh this is Pakistani made.

pakimuslim

May 31st, 2006, 01:35 PM

I really don't think these alifsss are going to be successful, Because they are expensive a lot more than the "RICKSHAW"(costs less than even a lac). and we need cheap ones because a poor rickshaw driver cannot afford a Rs.1,72,000 alif..
I think gov. must take steps to replace 2 stroke rickshaws with 4-stroke CNG rickshaws because this 4-stroke is cheap,less noisy,less polluting etc.

pakimuslim

May 31st, 2006, 01:48 PM

sher-e-lahore

May 31st, 2006, 02:31 PM

c'on guy's it's not that bad give it a break ....

I mean you can drive this car about ofcouse not long distence but city car its cool I mean look at this car we call it city car in UK here are few pics of it ...

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Speed through the city with ease in a smart fortwo coupé: And because it's only 2.5 m long, driving is just as much fun as parking. Although it's ultra-compact, the smart fortwo coupé offers you lots of space, comfort and safety.
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huit

May 31st, 2006, 04:48 PM

^ This is available in Pakistan, although the price is a wee bit too much for such a small car. It costs 1.3 million rupees here.

huit

May 31st, 2006, 04:49 PM

^ Rickshaws cost more than 100,000 Rupees... the price is somewhere around Rs. 150,000 to 175,000.

swerveut

May 31st, 2006, 06:29 PM

I accept these are better than rickshaws but cannot replace rickshaws. These rickshaws are a depiction of our culture and we must not replace our culture. However, these rickshaws can be made better by makin'em noiseless and environment friendlyetc (not changing basic stucure and tradition of rickshaws).

Bullshi+. What really defines our culture? is it clunky smokey noisy unsafe rickshaws? If that is a yes, I dont want to be a part of our culture. Changing for the better is always good. Culture is never constant. What is culture at one moment in time, is not culture in the next period. Whoever doesnt move ahead gets stuck back in the old ages and gets left behind in the evolution of life.

Also, I think that the decoration style that public transport has in our country is more a part of our culture than is the vehicle itself. Rickshaws, trucks, wagons, minibuses etc. are all decorated a certain way which makes them look like they are a part of our "culture". I dont see any reason why these newer and more efficient vehicles could not be made a part of this "culture" by decorating them in similar fashions.

sher-e-lahore

May 31st, 2006, 08:28 PM

Pakistan Hits One-Million Natural Gas Vehicle Mark

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Pakistan Hits One-Million Natural Gas Vehicle Mark
13 May 2006

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According to statistics from the Hydrocarbon Development Institute of Pakistan (HDIP), the country now has more than one million natural gas vehicles on the road.

Pakistan is now one of three countries in the world with more than one million NGVs in their fleets, behind Brazil with 1,117,885 and Argentina with 1,459,236, according to statistics from the International Association of Natural Gas Vehicles.

The country has been making an all-out push on switching over to CNG as a fuel and thus reduce oil imports. (Earlier post.)

Vehicle conversions to CNG are clipping along at the rate of more than 40,000 per month, according to the Hydrocarbon Development Institute. The country now has 930 CNG stations operational with another 200 under construction.

According to the US Energy Information Administration, Pakistan currently is producing about 64,000 barrels per day of its own oil, while in 2005 it consumed an estimated 351,400 barrels per day.

By contrast, Pakistan has an estimated 26.83 trillion cubic feet (Tcf) of proven natural gas reserves, and is essentially self-sufficient for the moment with that fuel. The country has estimated reserves of 26.83 trillion cubic feet (Tcf), and produced and consumed 0.84 Tcf in 2003.

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Check out price for natural gas at San Jose airport...

Posted by: Joe | May 13, 2006 6:11:51 PM

How long does it take to fuel the "typical" CNG car?

Posted by: Tripp | May 13, 2006 6:25:14 PM

...and yet the US spends billion on gasoline with no near term and long term solution in sight!!!

FS

Posted by: Fred | May 13, 2006 10:25:53 PM

Coal, Corn, and CNG!

Seriously, yes, we are having supply problems because the world is sucking on the SAME hose( oil supplies).
But,
What if .....traders can no longer ship energy to the highest bidder?
What if .....the USA had energy resources that could not be easily exported, to say, China or India?( I know we don't presently do this)
WHAT would happen is the price of energy would stablize or actually DECREASE in the USA!
Unless the aluminium battery is realized, the ONLY energy source that cannot be exported is ELECTRICITY!
If Congress and the Adminstration focued on DIRECT electric energy production(wind, solar, tidal),
We will have Peace, Power and Price, to our advantage.

Let the rest of the world fight over the remaining drops from the oil hose.

Posted by: Tonychilling | May 14, 2006 2:51:24 AM

Tripp -

a properly designed CNG system can be filled up to 200 bar pressure in about the time it would take to fill up a gasoline tank. Some designs take much longer, though.

However, range is currently still limited to ~200 miles in a passenger car. There are research efforts underway to increase range by raising pump pressures to 300 bar while maintaining the required margin of structural safety of the tanks (composite materials will be used).

Posted by: Rafael Seidl | May 14, 2006 4:45:45 AM

Michigan imports about 25% of its electricity from Canada. Decades ago Bucky Fuller showed us how a global electrical grid could be established with a very high capacity 50 mile link across the Bering Sea. A global grid could distibute solar and wind power from wherever it is generated to wherever it is needed 24/7/365.

Posted by: tom deplume | May 14, 2006 7:12:32 AM

I certainly would like to see more of a discussion in this country about CNG as an alternative fuel. Everyone seems to be talking about ethanol and hydrogen, but I think CNG should be in there as well. We have large amounts of it and the distribution system is already in place, which is a lot more than you can say about ethanol and hydrogen.

Posted by: Mark_H | May 14, 2006 7:22:34 AM

I own a CNG business in the UK that supplies trucks. The storage vessels are rated at 300 bar, with a 250bar settled pressure. Range is 450 miles, engines 380 bhp, dedicated CNG. All vehicles love to run on CNG, only a matter of time before the UK catches up wiuth Germany which has built 700 CNG stations in the last 3 years....why convert natural gas to hydrogen when you can just burn it directly in the engine!! Low pollution, low CO2, low noise.....no issues at all!

Posted by: John Baldwin | May 14, 2006 8:31:15 AM

The only problem with NG in the UK is that last year we came damn close to running out.

In the event of a shortage it would be industry that is asked to switch off first. If households are asked to switch off then it is possible that pensioners could suffer hypothermia etc.

I'm not sure that running vehicles en masse on the same stuff that we currently use for space heating & cooking is a particularly smart idea.

We (the UK) are now a net gas importer. Wouldn't it be better to stick to what gas most efficient at (ie. space heating & cooking) and leave oil for what it is best at (ie. easily stored liquid vehicle fuel)?

Andy

Posted by: andy | May 14, 2006 8:43:00 AM

NG is awfully hard to transport. In developed countries construction of new pipelines is next to impossible. Compression and liquefaction takes sizable part of its energy. For US driver, who inflate their tires only when he will notice sparks from the rim scratching asphalt, 300 bar NG tank is a ticking bomb. One explosion will be enough for US lawyers to bankrupt whole NG industry. Yes, NG buses are the cleanest vehicles possible, and NG is great for refuse trucks and lorries too, thought due to high maintenance cost NG buses are no less expensive to run then clean diesel (at least in NY, where diesel fuel is not artificially overpriced)

Note, however, that NG is a source for synthesis of methanol, ethanol, butanol, synthetic gasoline and diesel, MTBE, DME, etc. It is possible to convert NG to liquid at remote wellhead and transport it as liquid. Huge gas-to-liquid plants begin operation in Bahrain and China. I believe it is the best technology we have at hand.

Posted by: Andrey | May 14, 2006 12:55:15 PM

Tom Deplume
I say again:
the ONLY energy source that cannot be exported is ELECTRICITY.

Im not against regional sharing of resources with border neighbors because there is no way to stop it--a technical/economic reality.
If there is a "BUCK" to be made, someone will find a way of doing it.
Anyone can dream of of a world wide grid, but the losses would be too great. I understand that the longest line is about 1,000 miles, which should isolate the lower 48 states from "market greed".
We need to have LOWER energy costs than the world and not accept the pricing fiat of corporations.

Posted by: TonyChilling | May 14, 2006 2:34:27 PM

If Pakistan has 26.83 TcF of proven reserves, and pumps 0.84 TcF per year, then it will deplete its proven reserves in about 32 years. That's not a long time.

0.84 TcF, as of the year 2003, does not account for the rapid growth in demand that an en masse switchover of automobiles from gasoline to CNG will produce, nor does it account for the continuing growth in demand that a growing population and growing economy will produce.

On the other hand, 26.83 TcF accounts for only the proven and feasibly recoverable reserves at the moment. That number could grow with further prospecting and technological developments. But I wonder what its natural upper limit really is.

I am not confident that CNG is anything more than a middle-term stopgap for a country like Pakistan.

Posted by: NBK-Boston | May 14, 2006 11:34:24 PM

Nice to see some vibrant discussion on CNG!

Andrey - Re: "NG is awfully hard to transport." Not correct. We've got vast pipeline networks spanning hundreds of thousands (millions?) of miles throughout the world. It is in fact easier (and safer) to transport than gasoline, diesel or propane.

Re: "In developed countries construction of new pipelines is next to impossible." I'm not sure what this statement is based on as pipelines are laid in developed countries on a daily basis. Given that CNG stations can utilise existing pipelines anyway, it is effectively an argument in favor of using natural gas vehicles (NGVs). The advent of home refuelling for CNG makes it even more favourable as it reduces the need for service stations on the street corners of our towns and cities.

Re: "For US driver, who inflate their tires only when he will notice sparks from the rim scratching asphalt, 300 bar NG tank is a ticking bomb." Again, not correct. Natural gas vehicles are inherently safer than traditional fuels. You can find a brief summary of safety issues on a site that I manage on behalf of the IANGV - http://www.iangv.org/content/view/25/43/. I would argue you would be more at risk in a gasoline car with sparks flying from the rims than a natural gas vehicle.

Re: "NG buses are no less expensive to run then clean diesel" - The times they are a changing! Refer to the Tiax report mentioned here http://www.greencarcongress.com/natural_gas/index.html (July 26 listing) or here http://www.ngvglobal.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&lang=en&id=220&Itemid=2.

Re converting the natural gas to a liquid - on a life cycle basis this would take even more energy than it does to compress or liquefy gas.

NBK Boston - Comments on the reserves of natural gas in Pakistan are valid and apply in other parts of the world also, but trends are emerging for the production of natural gas as biomethane from waste and agricultural sources - making it virtually limitless almost anywhere in the world. See Mike's recent item on it here http://www.greencarcongress.com/2006/04/biomethane_focu.html

Posted by: Brett Jarman | May 15, 2006 1:02:59 AM

Andrey - Re: "NG is awfully hard to transport." Not correct. We've got vast pipeline networks spanning hundreds of thousands (millions?) of miles throughout the world. It is in fact easier (and safer) to transport than gasoline, diesel or propane.
Brett,
Go educate yourself, before you make these senseless statements. I suggest you start with thermodynamics. Basically, it comes down to this: the lower the density of a fluid, the more energy-intensive it is to transport. Hence it always requires more energy to move a ton of gas than a ton of liquid. So it requires more energy to transport gas, i.e. it is more expensive.

It should be obvious that a gas transportation system is a lot more complicated that a liquid transportation system. Hint: you can open a liquid system and look inside, with no real loss of the fluid. Try that with a gaseous system!

As for safety, see the previous point. If your system springs a leak, the escaping gas has the potential to burn as fast as it escapes. For a liquid to burn, it must first evaporate. While some fluids evaporate rapidly (gasoline) others do not (diesel, crude, etc.)

Bottom line: It is always harder and less safe to transport fuel gas compared to liquid fuel.

Posted by: An Engineer | May 15, 2006 11:11:56 AM

The range problem of CNG vehicles can be addressed by optimizing the fuel-efficiency of the vehicle in the form of gas-electric hybrid, and the addition of 20% of hydrogen into the methane (Hythane) thus the potential to improve fuel economy up to 40% by supporting ultra-lean combustion. For example, the rumored 2008 Prius with 94mpg fuel efficiency will require a CNG tank no larger than the size of current gasoline tank in order to have the same range as a comparable non-hybrid gasoline vehicle.
CNG can be produced cheaply and efficiently from gasification of all types of inedible waste biomass, in comparison to much more expensive, complex and slow process of cellulosic ethanol production. Thus, CNG can be considered also as a potentially renewable fuel. If this resource is very efficiently used, along with mixed-in hydrogen produced from renewable sources such as solar and wind energy, we can clearly and cleanly move away from fossil fuels that are polluting and causing global warming.

Posted by: Roger Pham | May 17, 2006 4:26:03 PM

Along with Pakistan's milestone, World has 5 million + CNG powered vehicles.

As for the short range, current CNG powered vehicles have a cylinder with only 200 bar capacity, 400 bar is technically proven and if this is implemented, vehicles will have 400 mile range which is good enough.

The best bet is the bi-fueled vehicles with a 20-30 mile CNG range pretty much like the proposed plugin hybrids.

It will sell fast whether the place has CNG supply or not.

Posted by: Max Reid | May 18, 2006 7:32:26 PM

Andrey
Senseless it may be but despite the laws of thermodynamics, natural gas is transported by pipelines to millions of homes and businesses throughout the world at acceptable cost - both in dollar terms and in terms of safety.

I can't think of an 'easier' transport system than one that delivers the fuel to its point of use.

Posted by: Brett Jarman | May 23, 2006 6:36:09 AM

CNG can be produced cheaply and efficiently from gasification of all types of inedible waste biomass, in comparison to much more expensive, complex and slow process of cellulosic ethanol production. Thus, CNG can be considered also as a potentially renewable fuel. If this resource is very efficiently used, along with mixed-in hydrogen produced from renewable sources such as solar and wind energy, we can clearly and cleanly move away from fossil fuels that are polluting and causing global warming.
Roger, can't say I am beside myself when it comes to cellulosic ethanol, except that it is a huge step forward from the politically-favored, but idiotic corn ethanol.

That said, I still think a liquid fuel is the way to go. So I would take the syngas from your biomass gasification step and convert it to liquid fuel, via Fischer-Tropsch. Some important advantages:
1. Fuel chemically identical to existing fuels: Can be blended at any convenient ratio, and scaled up as it matures. No need to build a "hydrogen highway".
2. After blending it can be pumped in existing pipelines, unlike E85 or eben E10.
3. No issue with gelling, unlike biodiesel in Minnesota this winter.
4. No need to change anything in your car. In fact, you won't even notice the difference!

Seems like a no-brainer to me: produce fuels identical to the existing supplies, except we switch from crude to local supply. And this way you can pace it to any convenient rate.

Posted by: An Engineer | May 23, 2006 5:11:31 PM

UnitedPakistan

May 31st, 2006, 09:59 PM

May 31st, 2006, 10:10 PM

^ Good find, but that should be in the Automobile thread, not the Sitara City Cart thread !

Gumnaam

May 31st, 2006, 10:28 PM

Not too bad, much better than a bike and it's just a beginning, hopefully it will evolve into something better over time..

Bullshi+. What really defines our culture? is it clunky smokey noisy unsafe rickshaws? If that is a yes, I dont want to be a part of our culture. Changing for the better is always good. Culture is never constant. What is culture at one moment in time, is not culture in the next period. Whoever doesnt move ahead gets stuck back in the old ages and gets left behind in the evolution of life.

Also, I think that the decoration style that public transport has in our country is more a part of our culture than is the vehicle itself. Rickshaws, trucks, wagons, minibuses etc. are all decorated a certain way which makes them look like they are a part of our "culture". I dont see any reason why these newer and more efficient vehicles could not be made a part of this "culture" by decorating them in similar fashions.
Very well said!

swerveut

May 31st, 2006, 10:34 PM

Sher-e-Lahore, can you please also name your source?

Gumnaam

May 31st, 2006, 10:43 PM

Just get of rickshaws, they are a menace on the roads. 90 percent of road accidents in Lahore and Karachi are caused by these pesky, noisy, good for nothing rickshaws. Replace them with alif or bay, A or B, C or D I dont care just replace them.
Main cause of accidents in big cities are mini buses and vans, we need to get rid of these along with rickshaws, what we need now is a Mass Transit System in our big cities especially in Karachi and Lahore (and that too along with proper buses and taxis!)..

X-entric

May 31st, 2006, 11:44 PM

yes, I agree with you GumNaam, They started getting rid of the famous Lahori 'wagons' but somehow they just couldnt get rid of them completely.They are probably equally a menace as a rickshaw

sher-e-lahore

June 1st, 2006, 12:41 AM

yeh dam van's drivers don't talk about them reckless driver's !!!!!!! I was driving in Lahore so many times Allah saved me coz of them idioits Van drivers so many times they nearly crashed in to my car :( but thanks to Allah who saved me ....

well the bus drivers are safe i mean the gov bus drivers are rickshaws damit no breaks at the back can stop when ever they feel like or turn ect trust me i drive when i vist Pakistan its not safe at all !!!!!!!!

sher-e-lahore

June 1st, 2006, 12:44 AM

Pakistan-CNG
Pakistan has decided to introduce compressed natural gas (CNG) buses, which would cut down annually US dlrs 700 million from diesel import bill.

Petroleum and Natural Resources Minister Amanullah Khan Jadoon said this while addressing a public meeting the other day in North West Frontier Province.

He said that the government was encouraging investors to promote CNG sector at a pace aimed at providing cheap and environment-friendly fuel to the masses.

In CNG use, the minister revealed Pakistan ranked No. 1 in Asia and third in the world.

Last year, the government asked the ministries and attached departments to get CNG kit fitted in officials' cars.

sher-e-lahore

June 1st, 2006, 01:16 AM

Pakistan Bus this treath is only for any update on Buses in Pakistan any news to to with buses in Pakistan I was feeling that there is no threath about buses in Pakistan so here we go :) leave your feedback please thanks ...

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A painted scene from the back of a private bus in Karachi Pakistan. Buses, trucks and rickshaws are commonly painted.check out the dentists in the back... taken with my Palm Zire 71
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Pakistan is known for its artistically painted and decorated traffic vehicles, whether they are small autorickshaws, goods-hauling trucks, or buses used for public transportation. The magnficent art, couple with faces peering from windows, always provides a wonderful frame for photos begging to be taken.
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This picture is taken just after a stop in Gilgit.
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on the back of a bus
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bus stop
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This is the northend of Karachi's busiest road, I.I. Chundrigarh Road, where you will find highrise headoffice buildings of all major banks and private & public sectors offices.
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safer bus I think ..
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sher-e-lahore

June 1st, 2006, 01:21 AM

Bus station"Daewoo" in Abbortabd
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A new company has started assembling Korean buses at a local plant and it plans to roll out 500 buses during 2006. Afzal Motors Private Ltd entered into a technical assistance agreement (TAA) with Daewoo Bus Corporation, Korea, last year and the foundation stone of the plant at National Highway was laid on April 2005. The project cost is estimated at Rs500 million.

The local company has started the assembly of bus chasis from November 20, 2005 with initial deletion of 48 per cent, approved by the Engineering Development Board (EDB), while it plans to assemble the bus body from March 31, 2006, a senior executive in Afzal Motors told Dawn on Friday.

In a competitive market dominated by Japanese players for the last 20 years, the company plans to clinch 25 per cent market share initially, while competing with Japanese and some Chinese bus assemblers.

Figures compiled by Pakistan Automotive Manufacturers Association (PAMA) reveal that the local bus production in Pakistan went up by 27 per cent in 2004-2005 to 1,762 units from 1,380 units in 2003-2004. Hinopak Motors virtually enjoy the monopoly in bus segment, while Nissan, Dong Feng, Master and Isuzu have very negligible market share. However, production of Nissan buses has been suspended from July 2005, according to PAMA figures.

The executive said that the company aimed to produce 1,200 buses in 2007. The plant has directly created jobs for 450 people. The company also plans to assemble truck from June 2006.

He, however, said that the assembly plant has the capacity to produce 2400 buses and trucks on a single shift basis. It will also produce world class bus chassis and bus bodies for the domestic and export market.

The Daewoo Buses will be equipped with Euro-I, Euro-II diesel and dedicated CNG engines. The mass production of the front and rear engine buses has now started.

He said that the imported Daewoo buses were already plying on the Lahore-Islamabad Motorway and also in some parts of the southern Punjab.

A team of Korean engineers recently visited Pakistan to facilitate the assembly of buses and train Pakistani technical team on the job.

Daewoo Bus Corporation, Korea, has plans to export buses assembled at the plant in Pakistan to the Middle East and SAARC countries, he added.

check out this link for bus services http://www.sammi.com.pk/

sher-e-lahore

June 1st, 2006, 01:24 AM

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Daewoo City Bus

very safe drivers for city bus not like the other buses coz i have seen them on the road they drive safe enough ..

This is a relatively cheap and easy way to get around the city if you don't have enough to spend on taxis and chauffeur driven cars. In the cities the buses are run by the government as well as many private companies. The Daewoo Bus Company runs many of the inner city buses with latest state of the art buses that make very little pollution.

From 2000, the government has banned old, excessively polluting, poorly run buses from cities, to deal with the pollution levels that have become a problem in many cities in Pakistan.

The buses are given numbers according to which routes they are travelling or if in doubt there is usually a ticket person who you can ask for directions and fares. The buses do start to run late during the early morning and evening when traffic in the cities becomes very chaotic as many communters try to get to or from work.

There is a very very good you may say excellent South Korean 'Daewoo Bus Service' from Islamabad & Rawalpindi, Faisalabad, Multan, Sargodha, to Lahore Daily many times. Connecting all these cities together. Their prices are above average because they provide very good service alongwith hospitality & reliability which every traveller wants. But it is better tobook in advence because they are few of the only transport service in pakistan which offer telephone booking as well.

There is a very very good you may say excellent South Korean 'Daewoo Bus Service' from Islamabad & Rawalpindi, Faisalabad, Multan, Sargodha, to Lahore Daily many times. Connecting all these cities together. Their prices are above average because they provide very good service alongwith hospitality & reliability which every traveller wants. But it is better tobook in advence because they are few of the only transport service in pakistan which offer telephone booking as well.

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Daewoo Bus Terminal - LAHORE
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LAHORE: After getting good financial results, Daewoo Pakistan Express Bus Service has decided to extend its transport service to some other routes of the province during the next month.

While talking to Business Recorder here on Wednesday, Daewoo officials said that at present Daewoo, with its 60 buses fleet (40 on inter-city and 20 on intra-city routes) is getting good public response as well as good financial results with an occupancy rate of nearly 100 percent.

At present, Daewoo is operating its buses on three inter-city routes, including Lahore-Rawalpindi, Lahore-Sargodha and Sargodha-Rawalpindi.'

"We have planned to start our bus service on Lahore-Faisalabad route also, and after the completion of Faisalabad terminal we will start our service from the city to Rawalpindi and Sargodha. The service is likely to be started in February next year," they added.

To a question, Daewoo officials said that the previous plan of Daewoo to start its service on 'Lahore-Mansehra' route is on the hold for now.

They said that Daewoo would operate around 700 buses in the near future, and out of these 500 will run in the Punjab metropolis while 100 each will operate in Multan and Rawalpindi.

"Later, our services will be extended to the other major cities of Punjab," they added.

Out of these 700 buses, 300 will be brought to Pakistan on complete built unit (cbu) basis from Korea while the rest will be assembled in Pakistan.

Amjad Bhatti, a senior official in the marketing section of Daewoo, said that the shipment of 50 new Daewoo luxury buses is in final stage, and added that these buses will operate on various routes in Lahore starting the middle of next month.

He said that the new luxury bus service recently introduced in Lahore by Daewoo is getting excellent response and people are demanding more such buses for the city.

To a question, he said that at present no proposal of changing the Daewoo bus fares is under consideration. He said that the company had already started its cargo service and planned to expand it further.

To another question, Daewoo officials said that the change of government has not affected the Daewoo business in Pakistan. "We are not facing any difficulty in our routine work," they added.