I say those who do not know how to combat terrorism. All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing.

I think that the main issue is that there will always be terrorism in some shape or form and you cant lump it all together and pretend to have a single answer, so yes you need to have people who can adapt and strategically out think the each bud of terrorism

Obviously to myself terrorists probably present a greater threat.

Maybe we should all stop poking our noses in other peoples business and become very insular.

Terrorism is everywhere from the kid that bullies another to someone being mugged.

We need to start concentrating on these terrorists.

^^Yep, starting with the Israelis. Won't happen though, will it?

It is definitely those in power who do not know how to combat terrorism. Some people actually think that by being passive they can combat terrorism. It is hard to grasp that after the WWII trauma, people will keep confusing ideology for rhetoric.

Those who think they can combat terrorism.

The U.S. tries to combat terrorism, yet is criticized. The left screams when we torch some training camp.

^^ Oh, for God´s sake! Try to be honest! If not with others then at least with yourself!

The U.S. tries to combat terrorism, yet is criticized. The left screams when we torch some training camp.

aha.
And where? In Iraq? arent we forgetting something here?
Maybe the fact that we all have been lied to about wmds?
Maybe that Iraq wasnt a hotbed for terrorism before the invasion but is now?

Everyone blames America for everything. If nobody did anything about public transport being blown up, offices etc. Then people would complain, simple as.

America tries to resolve it, and people criticise them. Ok ok for you Suomi, is it Finland what is getting terrorised? No. I doubt your government would just shrug off a terrorist attack like it never happened. Seriously.

^^ No, we would immediately mobilize the whole Finnish army and conquer Sweden because they did it, and when the world finds out they didn´t we just say it was a mistake.

What people doesn´t get is that the situation isn´t getting any better. Tell me, What has America achieved?

Terrorists but the people in power have made it alot worse.

aha.
And where? In Iraq? arent we forgetting something here?
Maybe the fact that we all have been lied to about wmds?
Maybe that Iraq wasnt a hotbed for terrorism before the invasion but is now?

maybe, because we are fighting all the terrorists in Iraq it seems. Sort of a flytrap to lure them all in and deal with us in Iraq, rather than in the U.S. Again, why do you care so much about the WMDs? Why do you ignore the faults of Saddam Hussein? Would it have been better to allow Saddam to stay in power? And personally, I think a civil war in Iraq could possibly be better than allowing a dictator to rule with an iron fist. Good things have come from civil war.

What people doesn´t get is that the situation isn´t getting any better. Tell me, What has America achieved?

What would have been acheived it we hadnt done anything. I remind you that the U.S was attacked on September 11, 2001...not September 11, 2004.

Terrorists, because without them those in power wouldn't need to combat terrorism. I'd rather have people in power attempting to combat terrorism that no one trying at all.

Terrorists, because without them those in power wouldn't need to combat terrorism. I'd rather have people in power attempting to combat terrorism that no one trying at all.

It's not a question of what would happen without them. Obiously terrorists are always going to exist- but I personally believe that those in charge who sit idly by or pretend they know how to combat terrorists when really they don't are the bigger threat to our security. A lot can be prevented by taking the correct steps (this latest incident for example).

aha.
And where? In Iraq? arent we forgetting something here?
Maybe the fact that we all have been lied to about wmds?
Maybe that Iraq wasnt a hotbed for terrorism before the invasion but is now?

All it did was bring together those who hate us and wanted to carry out attacks anyway.

maybe, because we are fighting all the terrorists in Iraq it seems.

Needless to say that Iraq had nothing to do with international terrorism.
But well done: Now after the invasion the whole country is full of them and the americans which they hate are also present right at their doorstep.
How convenient.
Dont you realize that this is a unsolvable violent circle??

All it did was bring together those who hate us and wanted to carry out attacks anyway.

No it also created most of the terrorists in the first place.
People who wouldnt have given a shit about the UK or the US prior to the invasion are now involved in fighting them.
Is that so hard to see?
and you cant get rid of them because for everyone thats killed three others pick up a rifle.

Needless to say that Iraq had nothing to do with international terrorism.
But well done: Now after the invasion the whole country is full of them and the americans which they hate are also present right at their doorstep.
How convenient.
Dont you realize that this is a unsolvable violent circle??

I do realize that but no one is telling me how we should stop people from wanting to blow up planes carrying innocent civilians...probally going on vacations, visiting family, or doing business?

What people doesn´t get is that the situation isn´t getting any better. Tell me, What has America achieved?


Nothing. They ruined the best chance for Europe and the rest of the world to be directed on the whims of the proletariat and social and economic utopia based on a command economy, collectivization, and one party rule. Damn bastards!!!!! They took away the best of what was to come, I shall never forgive them.

And don't even get me started to their brutal oppression based on the slightest objection to Islamic Sharia based theocracies which have shown an unending propriety for womens, religous minority, gay, and other universal human rights.

these people are not giving Iraq enough time. A country doesnt suddenly change overnight. Civil War may be looming..but most nations of the world have had civil war in one way or the other. Like I said, positive change is more possible with a civil war than with a dictator ruling with an iron fist--his sons and their sons carrying on in the same brutal legacy.

No it also created most of the terrorists in the first place.
People who wouldnt have given a shit about the UK or the US prior to the invasion are now involved in fighting them.
Is that so hard to see?
and you cant get rid of them because for everyone thats killed three others pick up a rifle.

Like I said, you don't go from a moderate indifferent-to-America-and-the-UK Muslim to Jihadist-suicide-bomber. They supported Saddam. They hated us. They supported the terrorists. They were "terrorists" anyway insomuchas they were ready and willing to fight prior to the war in Iraq. You're a fool if you actually believe these were good people turned bad by a so-called "unjust" war.

The more of these people we kill the better.

Like I said, you don't go from a moderate indifferent-to-America-and-the-UK Muslim to Jihadist-suicide-bomber. They supported Saddam. They hated us. They supported the terrorists. They were "terrorists" anyway insomuchas they were ready and willing to fight prior to the war in Iraq. You're a fool if you actually believe these were good people turned bad by a so-called "unjust" war.

The more of these people we kill the better.

How many people were killed prior to 2003 in Iraq in sectarian conflicts?
How many americans died prior to 2003 in Iraq?
How many wmds have been found in Iraq?
What does Iraq had to do with international terrorism prior to 2003 and how has that changed?

Answer these questions first before we get into any serious argument here.