R800m soccer stadium to be built in Limpopo

The Polokwane Municipality in Limpopo has decided to build a new R800m World Cup 2010 stadium, ending months of uncertainties over the future of Peter Mokaba Stadium.

The project, whose funding model is unclear at this stage, will be known Peter Mokaba Complex. The future of Peter Mokaba has been a subject of speculation for months. The Polokwane Municipality says it had three options, firstly to demolish the current Peter Mokaba and built a new one on its existing site, secondly to upgrade it, or thirdly build a new stadium adjacent to it. The municipality chose option three.

The municipality says demolition would have cost the city an extra R39m, on top of the stadium budget. These are the costs of demolition and property buyout alone. Funding for the stadium is not clear at this stage. The city says its consultants are still busy with a business plan.

Stadium to be used even after 2010
Thabo Makunyane, the Polokwane Mayor said: “While they're putting together a business plan, national treasury will then make a commitment that they're going to fund up to this much. It is only then that we'll see what we do to make up for the difference”.

The city says the stadium design will ensure it is not a white elephant after 2010. It's a multi purpose facility catering for other sporting codes, and will therefore be full use, and maintain itself. Construction will begin in January next year and finish by end of 2008.

Unfortunately, I couldn't find any renderings, as it's only been announced yesterday. But, keep your eyes open guys, should be coming along soon. Anyway, all this means there will be TWO stadiums, right next to each other. The old one mainly focused on athletics and school sports, and the new one obviously for soccer and rugby.

will the old one not require some upkeep over time too? how big is the old one at present? Good to hear things are moving...altho slowly...it is scary to think that most stadiums havent sorted out funding and feasibility issues

two stadiums right next to each other...that sounds familiar.

moving on...

will the old one not require some upkeep over time too? how big is the old one at present? Good to hear things are moving...altho slowly...it is scary to think that most stadiums havent sorted out funding and feasibility issues

You don't have to worry about the old one. It's completely self-sufficient. It's mainly an athletics track (the fastest in the country I believe... many world records have been run there) and it's constantly used by schools and smaller clubs as a venue for soccer, rugby, athletics and even cricket. It seats about 20000, so it's not that big. Either way, I think building a second stadium is actually better. Because if they DID demolish the old one, the city would have lost its athletics capability, which is something we're quite proud of.

Wld the existing stadium be the only one in Polokwane? if that is the case then i wldnt get rid of it for u wld be without anything for 3 years or so. also if it does have the best track in the country thats important to keep as a training centre. Also good to know its used regularily. Will the new stadium have a track? cos i wld hope it doesnt if u have the good track next door.

Wld the existing stadium be the only one in Polokwane? if that is the case then i wldnt get rid of it for u wld be without anything for 3 years or so. also if it does have the best track in the country thats important to keep as a training centre. Also good to know its used regularily. Will the new stadium have a track? cos i wld hope it doesnt if u have the good track next door.

At the moment there is only one stadium in the city. So, I assume that was their reasoning as well, because without that stadium, one would have 3 PSL clubs without a home ground, no proper athletics track in the province, and no arena for big meetings and the like. It's constantly used, so without it, the city would lose a lot of business and interest.

The new one won't have a track from what I found out so far. Pointless, with a very good track right across the road... :) So, it will cater for soccer and rugby mainly, and include other sporting facilities (indoor stuff I assume). The new stadium will just add to an already well developed sporting hub in the city, which includes facilities for a LOT of sports already. It can only get better.

"Indoor Stuff" how do u mean? You not building a stadium with a closing roof... R800m is still alot of money

I dont mean indoor as in a closed roof, rather like smaller sports under the stands etc. Like squash, gymnastics etc. It will NOT have a closed roof, but with a pricetag of R800 million, it must have some extra facilities.

should have like a small complex to it, with squash courts etc.

should have like a small complex to it, with squash courts etc.

Exactly. The area in its current state contains facilities for athletics, netball, tennis, cricket, rugby, soccer, golf, wrestling, quite a few martial arts, and numerous other small sports. So, with the new facilities, it should be quite something.

http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionlisten/suedafrika/peter_mokaba_stadium/100.jpg

^^ Nice rendering, thi will be great for Pietersburg.

^^ sorry, Polokwane. :)

I thought FIFA required more shaded seats?..............just asking

That is NOT the render for the new stadium. It's an old design, based on just upgrading the original stadium.

There are currently no renders for the new stadium, still in the design phase. They only start construction in January. But, just so you all know, that is not it.

Correction: I actually just found the render, and some more detailed information.

http://www.dropshots.com/photos/129481/20060817/082054.jpg

Sorry, couldn't find a clearer image, but I hope it looks ok.
Anyway:

- 45000 seats total
- 5000 VIP seats
- Media facilities for 1675 media representatives
- 600 seats for members of printed media
- 200 TV camera points
- 150 seats for radio & TV observers(commentary I suppose)
- 20 VIP boxes
- Reception area for VIPs of 800m2
- Offices and parking for players and officials
- Bus stations all around

Contract will be awarded before end of November. Building starts in January, and should be done end of 2008. There will also be various infrastructure developments around the stadium and the rest of the city, specifically transport.

Stadium cost: R797.5 Million

I thought FIFA required more shaded seats?..............just asking

I hate unshaded seats...

Well, as you can see, that's not a problem with the Peter Mokaba anymore... :) So what do you guys think of it?

Correction: I actually just found the render, and some more detailed information.

http://www.dropshots.com/photos/129481/20060817/082054.jpg

Sorry, couldn't find a clearer image, but I hope it looks ok.
Anyway:

- 45000 seats total
- 5000 VIP seats
- Media facilities for 1675 media representatives
- 600 seats for members of printed media
- 200 TV camera points
- 150 seats for radio & TV observers(commentary I suppose)
- 20 VIP boxes
- Reception area for VIPs of 800m2
- Offices and parking for players and officials
- Bus stations all around

Contract will be awarded before end of November. Building starts in January, and should be done end of 2008. There will also be various infrastructure developments around the stadium and the rest of the city, specifically transport.

Stadium cost: R797.5 Million

this is an excellent scoop...welldone..and thanks..

^^ I think it's a world class stadium. :cheers1: That first rendering sucked.

this is an excellent scoop...welldone..and thanks..

A pleasure. I'm quite surprised by the design actually. ;) Looks MUCH better than what I expected. So far, my 3rd favourite design of all the new stadia. Only Senza and Soccer City are better in my opinion...

This stadium is going to be a wonderful addition to Polokwane, that's for certain.

Looks great!! Those stands might however challenge Absa stadium in durbs for being the steepest around! lol.

Other than that it looks really awesome and much improved than the ones we saw before. and i agree that it is prob the third best design. So is it just CT that we havent seen now? and obviously the minor upgrades for Bloem, Loftus and Ellis park?

where did u manage to find the design?

WWWWOOOOWWWW!!!Thanks Rib, the world's gonna be suprised in 2010. Please do not forget to update us about the transport and accomodation related issue. Is the railway station close to the stadium? If not are they going to build one and how's then Polokwane's railway?

Considering the steepness, it does look quite steep.. ;) Don't know how it will be when it's done though, so hopefully a bit more slanted.

I found the design on a local newspaper's website. Very small newspaper, but they get most of the scoops on local development in Polokwane. I have no idea who designed it, but as soon as I know, I'll try to get a higher res version.

Accomodation is definitely being worked on here. There are lots of smaller scale lodges and B&B being built. Not really a market for massive hotels. I believe there is still a 250 room hotel planned, but I have no concrete details on that. Transport wise, most of the transport to the stadium will be done via road. The station isn't very close to the stadium, although that might be part of the transport upgrade. Polokwane isn't as big as Joburg or Durban obviously, so transport to the stadium will not be as big a problem as in the bigger cities. I'll keep you guys posted.

So what is happening here? rib? i read today that the mayor agreed R1bn on this stadium without asking the city...made the decsion on his own!! they all thought the existing stadium was being upgraded....

Hey everyone... Sorry, been quite busy lately, so I can't really write a lot here.

Anyway, dysan, that what you heard about the mayor making the decision on his own is just some guy in local government blowing smoke. And besides, it doesn't really matter, because the city certainly prefers retaining the old stadium. Creating a useful sports precinct is much more attractive than destroying one of the top athletics venues in the country!

I also found out, the stadium design isn't as steep as the rendering suggests. It somehow got stretched along the way.. :) There is a huge billboard when you enter the city which has the new rendering on it, and it seems much more 'normal'. The tender is being awarded in the coming weeks, early November sometime. Construction will start in January.

On other construction fronts, don't really know that much considering that I am living in Pretoria most of the time... I DO know that construction on phase 2 of the Savannah Centre started. They have closed some of the shops at the one entrance, and it seems like the new closed pay-parking area is being built there. They have already done quite a lot of piling, and a lot of pillars have gone up in the last week. The new 20000 squares of shopping space will probably be started by the end of the month.

There are also apparantly two new eco-estates being constructed, called 'The Willows' and 'Fairview'. These were announced in the past month and are being sold right now.

As soon as exams finish I will do some real digging and update you guys properly. :) End of November, ok? ;)

GOOD LUCK ON THE EXAMS MATE

Thanks man. I hope it goes well! :D

Thanks man. I hope it goes well! :D

hope u dont have to write four exams in four days...oh wait thats just F@#$@$# UCT

hope u dont have to write four exams in four days...oh wait thats just F@#$@$# UCT

:) Not just UCT... Luckily they moved some times around, otherwise I would have had to write 5 in 3 days! Now I've got 4 in 4... Which is a bit better I suppose...

current peter mokaba stadium??
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All the best Rib.

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All the best Rib.

Thanks Pule.. :)

Mo, only the last photo is of the Peter Mokaba stadium. From the parking lot, where you can see the offices and so...

The other photo is not familiar. Definitely not Peter Mokaba. Where did you find these?

Thanks Pule.. :)

Mo, only the last photo is of the Peter Mokaba stadium. From the parking lot, where you can see the offices and so...

The other photo is not familiar. Definitely not Peter Mokaba. Where did you find these?

i searched far and wide...im familiar with quite a few stadia locally and internationally but i had no clue about the peter mokaba stadium..will try and find some more pics

i searched far and wide...im familiar with quite a few stadia locally and internationally but i had no clue about the peter mokaba stadium..will try and find some more pics

Could you perhaps link to some of these sites, if possible? There aren't a lot of sites online with photos of anything related to Polokwane, so it could be quite interesting...

For everyone, I will go take pictures of the current stadium and the area around it in the coming weeks, so that you can all be a little more familiar with it. Hopefully I find out something interesting in the process...

yeh my exams start next week too! good luck one and all...and welcome back FINALLY rib!

yeh my exams start next week too! good luck one and all...and welcome back FINALLY rib!

Good luck to you as well! :) And thanks! :D

Good luck to you as well! :) And thanks! :D

Since as everyone is in exam spirit :evil: - good luck everybody! I've got 3 to go - will finish in 12 days time!!! Yeeeeeha! :dance:

wow the staduim is pretty good looking better than some i've seen so far

wow the staduim is pretty good looking better than some i've seen so far

Just wish I could find a better render. :) Can't wait for construction to start! The contract should be awarded this week, so more information should be coming through soon.

what teams would use this stadium in non world cup years?

what teams would use this stadium in non world cup years?

Well, considering that Silver Stars moved to the Royal Bafokeng, I think Dynamos will be the major club. There is a lot of small clubs here as well, so it will be used, don't worry. It could even be used for rugby after, which means the Blue Bulls could use it as a second base(Polokwane is also part of the Blue Bulls franchise) and for international games. The current stadium gets used for concerts etc all the time, so I'm certainly not worried about the new stadium being used.

Thanks Pule.. :)

Mo, only the last photo is of the Peter Mokaba stadium. From the parking lot, where you can see the offices and so...

The other photo is not familiar. Definitely not Peter Mokaba. Where did you find these?

well either the other photo is peter mokaba or its a training venue within limpopo but its definitely one of the two

The artists' impression of Peter Mokaba Stadium (http://www.cup2010.info/stadiums/Polokwane/PeterMokaba.html)look great.

Mokaba's view on farmers: (http://www.southafrica.to/people/PoliticalParties/ANC/PeterMokaba/PeterMokaba.htm)
"Kill the Boer, Kill the farmer"

Mokaba's view on HIV/AIDS
"H.I.V.? It doesn't exist".

Mokaba's view on antiretrovirals
"Antiretrovirals, they're quite dangerous. They're poison actually. We cannot allow our people to take something so dangerous that it will actually exterminate them. However well meaning, the hazards of misplaced compassion could lead to genocide."

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The Peter Mokaba stadium is under constuction now. Drove past the site earlier (will take some photos tomorrow or so, not much to see yet). They are doing quite a lot of earthwork, levelling the site. I expect piling to begin very soon. They are moving in a lot of equipment and fencing of the site right now.

The road in front of the stadium has been closed, because it is being dramatically enlarged. They already dug out about a 200m strip. Don't know the details of the road, but it's going to be quite an upgrade.

Also, the design on the signboard next to the site is different to everything we have so far. Seems to be a mix between the two latest renders.

I will get pictures when I can. Looking good here!

Hey Rib, can you also pls give us updates of other construction related projects in Polokwane and surrounding areas. Which other areas have been chosen for training venue purposes.

I am not sure about training venues here... Unfortunately the authorities don't like to talk to the press here, so it's very hard to find out what's being planned etc. I believe that they will use a stadium in Seshego and/or Thoyandou, and probably the stadium in Polokwane right next door (the current Peter Mokaba stadium).

Other projects:

- The Savannah mall expansion is nearing the end of the first phase thereof. Not massive, just some added undercover parking and enlargement on the one side. I expect the second phase will be much more elaborate.
- New private hospital just down the road from Savannah is going well, don't know exactly how far along it is, but there's a lot of work going in there.
- Downtown, PriceWaterhouseCoopers just moved into their new offices. 3F, very nice design with a curved glass facade. Not massive, but it works well in this city. :)
- Next to PWC, a local law firm also recently moved into their new offices. Also 3F. Kinda boring building though... Don't think they had THAT much to spend.
- The High Court is already being used, although they are still busy with some exterior work. Should be done soon though.
- Next to the court, they are almost done with the structure and walls of a new hotel (I think, not certain. It's built into an old hotel, so it's a logical progression.) This building is about 6F if I remember correctly, haven't been there in a few days, and I usually don't have time to look.. ;)
- About two blocks down from the courts, there are two buildings currently under construction. One is a 4F office block, and next to it is an open area which has been dug out. Waiting for piling to start soon.
- Across the road from that, next to the town square and the Jack Botes Hall, they built some small 2F building. Very nice design though. No idea what it is, and I only noticed it last week...
- A few blocks from there, still downtown, two office blocks are being built right across from each other. Both seem to be in the region of 5F or so.
- Planned developments: Seems to be a 10F+ office block for downtown in the planning stages. Will tell more if I hear more.
- Also, in Devenish street, there's a 3000 - 4500m2 block in the planning stages. Should be max 4F.

On the other side of the city, there's a whole bunch of new estates being developed. Not going to list them all now, but some nice stuff there.

The Cycad Centre has been enlarged a bit, adding a few new shops and restaurants and some undercover parking. Very nice looking place.

I hope this isn't too much random info. I don't really have time to get details at the moment, studying for a test. :) But, I hope this helps. Suffice to say, Polokwane is definitely very busy with construction. Downtown there are about 5 or 6 cranes, and a few more are going to go up soon.

The Peter Mokaba stadium is under constuction now. Drove past the site earlier (will take some photos tomorrow or so, not much to see yet). They are doing quite a lot of earthwork, levelling the site. I expect piling to begin very soon. They are moving in a lot of equipment and fencing of the site right now.



The road in front of the stadium has been closed, because it is being dramatically enlarged. They already dug out about a 200m strip. Don't know the details of the road, but it's going to be quite an upgrade.

Also, the design on the signboard next to the site is different to everything we have so far. Seems to be a mix between the two latest renders.

I will get pictures when I can. Looking good here!

different design..thats weird.

Thanx bro, this is very informative. Im sure by 2010 Polokwane will be a city to talk about. Quite honestly I believe that even if they build 5 stories as long as its clean and offers entertainment and safety then I vote for it.

different design..thats weird.

Only slightly. Then again, it might just be a cleaner, newer render. I haven't properly compared the design to the one you posted yet, so I can't be sure. It just looks like there's a lot more glass and so.

But I'll go take a photo as soon as I can. Then we can look properly.

Only slightly. Then again, it might just be a cleaner, newer render. I haven't properly compared the design to the one you posted yet, so I can't be sure. It just looks like there's a lot more glass and so.

But I'll go take a photo as soon as I can. Then we can look properly.

it might be the design just before the final design which i think had more glass and aluminum around the facade

I am not sure about training venues here... Unfortunately the authorities don't like to talk to the press here, so it's very hard to find out what's being planned etc. I believe that they will use a stadium in Seshego and/or Thoyandou, and probably the stadium in Polokwane right next door (the current Peter Mokaba stadium).

Other projects:

- The Savannah mall expansion is nearing the end of the first phase thereof. Not massive, just some added undercover parking and enlargement on the one side. I expect the second phase will be much more elaborate.
- New private hospital just down the road from Savannah is going well, don't know exactly how far along it is, but there's a lot of work going in there.
- Downtown, PriceWaterhouseCoopers just moved into their new offices. 3F, very nice design with a curved glass facade. Not massive, but it works well in this city. :)
- Next to PWC, a local law firm also recently moved into their new offices. Also 3F. Kinda boring building though... Don't think they had THAT much to spend.
- The High Court is already being used, although they are still busy with some exterior work. Should be done soon though.
- Next to the court, they are almost done with the structure and walls of a new hotel (I think, not certain. It's built into an old hotel, so it's a logical progression.) This building is about 6F if I remember correctly, haven't been there in a few days, and I usually don't have time to look.. ;)
- About two blocks down from the courts, there are two buildings currently under construction. One is a 4F office block, and next to it is an open area which has been dug out. Waiting for piling to start soon.
- Across the road from that, next to the town square and the Jack Botes Hall, they built some small 2F building. Very nice design though. No idea what it is, and I only noticed it last week...
- A few blocks from there, still downtown, two office blocks are being built right across from each other. Both seem to be in the region of 5F or so.
- Planned developments: Seems to be a 10F+ office block for downtown in the planning stages. Will tell more if I hear more.
- Also, in Devenish street, there's a 3000 - 4500m2 block in the planning stages. Should be max 4F.

On the other side of the city, there's a whole bunch of new estates being developed. Not going to list them all now, but some nice stuff there.

The Cycad Centre has been enlarged a bit, adding a few new shops and restaurants and some undercover parking. Very nice looking place.

I hope this isn't too much random info. I don't really have time to get details at the moment, studying for a test. :) But, I hope this helps. Suffice to say, Polokwane is definitely very busy with construction. Downtown there are about 5 or 6 cranes, and a few more are going to go up soon.

What is your view regarding transport to and from the stadium...and accommodation? I have always liked the idea of a tent village lol..similar to tent camps they use during cycling events

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Nice video:

http://www.polokwane.org.za/about_loc_munic/polokwane_intro.wmv

Alleged funding crisis]

Total cost estimated QS =R 864 659 644

Received tender price = R 1 245 236 999

Funding from National Government
R 696 776 897.00

OC TT cost estimated submitted to DG 2010 R 812 000 000.00

Est. shortfall

Estimated shortfall before process re-engineering R 576 299 520.00
Estimated shortfall after process re-engineering R 476 299 520.00
Tender closed 14/12/2006 received 3 tenders out of 5
Negotiation took place on 16/01/2007 with bidders to reduce cost
Final prices to be received on 23/01/2007.
Only be in a position to have the final shortfall on the 26/01/2006


Re-engineering

Omit aluminum facade and replace with hand-railing
Downgrading of some specifications
Reducing number of lifts
Change in seating specifications
Requested contractors to re-look at tender amounts and offering potential savings and alternatives to reduce tender price
Reducing the number of electronic equipment
Alternative construction guarantees in order to reduce price
Possible saving by extending the contract period

Training Venues

Seshego Stadium
Mankweng

Polokwane stakes its 2010 claim
Published: 25 Oct 05 - 0:00
With the final allocation of 2010 World Cup match venues yet to be finalised, local government leaders here are confident that the city will be one of the candidate venues to receive the nod of approval from the International Football Federation (FIFA).

During a flying visit to the province this week, a FIFA delegation inspected the city's general sporting infrastructure, transport systems, accommodation establishments and local government facilities.

The delegation was accompanied by Executive Mayor Thabo Makunyane and a team of local officials.

The FIFA team visited the sporting complex at the University of Limpopo, as well as stadiums in Seshego, Thohoyandou, and Giyani, before ending their inspection tour at Polokwane's 45 000 seater Peter Mokaba Stadium - punted as a major World Cup match venue.

Local officials told the visiting delegation that the venues outside Polokwane could be well utilised as good practice facilities prior to matches in the city.

'Limpopo has three teams in the country's Premier Soccer League, and five others in the first division, so interest in soccer in our city is at a high level" the mayor pointed out.

The fact that Limpopo had common boundaries with the Kruger National Park and three African countries, and that Polokwane's status as the so-called "Gateway to Africa" facilitated easy travel for fans wishing to visit neighbouring states, were raised as further plus factors. The FIFA delegation received a brochure setting out Polokwane's hotels and guest houses, which collectively would be able to offer 14 700 beds to 2010 fans and officials.

The publication has also drawn attention to the fact that Polokwane hosts six major car hire companies, and also operates 292 busses and 1190 minibus

What is your view regarding transport to and from the stadium...and accommodation? I have always liked the idea of a tent village lol..similar to tent camps they use during cycling events

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Transport shouldnt be a problem. The city isn't even nearly as busy as Joburg or the other major cities. I suppose that the main transport would be busses and taxi to and from the stadiums. The main rail station is a few km's from the stadium, and I don't think they will extend it to the stadium.

The province has a massive fleet of busses available, so supply won't be a problem. And they often have to transport many people around. As an example, I can just mention this easter weekend. Every year, this weekend, there is a massive church gathering at Moria, just outside the city. This gathering is attended by 10 million people every year, and keeps on growing. I'm not kidding or stretching that number. 10 million people. (The Zion Christian church is the biggest christian church in Africa) So, transport shouldn't be a problem.

As for accommodation, the article you posted does put it in perspective. There are numerous new guest houses being built, and a few hotels are being enlarged/upgraded. The market isn't really big enough to warrant any new major hotels, so guest houses are the accommodation of choice in Polokwane. And there are some VERY good places here.

I don't know about a tent village.. :) Could work, but I doubt it would be necessary.

Some good articles there mo. :) Thanks man.

I reckon Polokwane will get a HI Express, cos it seems they need hotel rooms. How is the stadium coming along?

Hi guys... It's been a while I know. :) But I've been busy with exams and the like, so I have an excuse. Anyway, I got onto the site of the Peter Mokaba stadium today! So, I took a few photos. As you can see, work is progressing. They aren't working a 6 day shift at the moment, seeing as only a few guys were on site today. The stadium is built on rock, so no piling was needed. Most of the deep foundations seem to be done, except on the main roof pillars (4 massive columns on the corners). There are 4 cranes lying on site, should be assembled in the next few days. I THINK they will need 6 in the end, but not sure.

Also, there's another site just to the side of the actual stadium where foundations have also been poured. I have no idea what it is, but it's there. :)

Anyway, hope you guys enjoy. I was quite surprised at the progress made already. At this rate, they'll be done way ahead of schedule...

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I can't see them Rib.

Hi guys... It's been a while I know. :) But I've been busy with exams and the like, so I have an excuse. Anyway, I got onto the site of the Peter Mokaba stadium today! So, I took a few photos. As you can see, work is progressing. They aren't working a 6 day shift at the moment, seeing as only a few guys were on site today. The stadium is built on rock, so no piling was needed. Most of the deep foundations seem to be done, except on the main roof pillars (4 massive columns on the corners). There are 4 cranes lying on site, should be assembled in the next few days. I THINK they will need 6 in the end, but not sure.

Also, there's another site just to the side of the actual stadium where foundations have also been poured. I have no idea what it is, but it's there. :)

Anyway, hope you guys enjoy. I was quite surprised at the progress made already. At this rate, they'll be done way ahead of schedule...

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lovely images rib, keep them coming.

Good pics homie....sepp blatter gonna visit all the sites for the new stadiums?

Good pics homie....sepp blatter gonna visit all the sites for the new stadiums?

I suppose he will eventually.. :) People tend to ignore Polokwane though. Kinda irritating, but I guess if it's not CT, Jhb or Durbs it's not worth looking at. ;)

i'm sure when things reach a more advanced state, then all the smaller regions will get visits. i'm thinking there will be alot of visits and tours on the go around the FIFA conference and prelim draw in Durban in November. By then alot more work would have been done on the other stadia, for work is only becoming more visible and pacey now.

Rib, which image would you like me to add to the blog?
Please PM me your name so that i can credit you for the images.

Hi Guys! Great page this. This is my first post. Drove past the Peter Mokaba stadium site today. Their busy assembling 3 cranes on the North side of the stadium should be done by the weekend. looks like their will be between 6 and 8 cranes. currently there 2 other cranes lying on site. my guess they will be up by next week.

welcome! photos please :) thanks for the update

Welcome Gryphon. We hope to get more pictures and construction news of Polokwane and the surroundings from you.

Hi guys! no chance to take photos yet. Will do as soon as I have time. Just a quick update. first 3 cranes almost completed, a forth are rising on the south side of the site. the 2nd cement mixing plant has been completed and was producing cement today. They also started poring columns on the east side of the stadium(main stand side). Earth works are still in progress on the south west side of the site.

I dont know if you know this but there are some roadworks around the staduim, upgrading some of the existing roads. These are progessing well.

Hello guys, how are you? I am from Guadalajara, Mexico and my wife and I are planning to go to Southafrica for the WC2010 so i am visiting the threads. Its seems that you guys are ahead of the plans. The stadium will look really great and i hope it will be a marvelous event.
Do you know when its the stadium supposed to be finished? is there any renders of it?
thanks in advance and good luck with the preparations. :D

The Peter Mokaba Stadium is scheduled to be finished by Feb 2009.

Some other info regarding 2010 world cup, the Lebowagomo stadium (about 20 km from the Peter mokaba Stadium will be upgraded to a 25 000 seater stadium. Building on this project should start by end of this year. This venue will be used as a training venue, along with the new Seshego stadium.

The Lebowagomo stadium is currently home to 7 local sides.

The Peter Mokaba Stadium is scheduled to be finished by Feb 2009.

Some other info regarding 2010 world cup, the Lebowagomo stadium (about 20 km from the Peter mokaba Stadium will be upgraded to a 25 000 seater stadium. Building on this project should start by end of this year. This venue will be used as a training venue, along with the new Seshego stadium.

The Lebowagomo stadium is currently home to 7 local sides.

Well, if the stadium is finished by feb 2009, you still have lots of time for preparing the surrounding area as well as other areas, like transport for example.
greetings

Well, if the stadium is finished by feb 2009, you still have lots of time for preparing the surrounding area as well as other areas, like transport for example.
greetings

Transport upgrades on the area leading towards the stadium is currently underway. So this should be ready by then.

Transport upgrades on the area leading towards the stadium is currently underway. So this should be ready by then.

Do you know what the upgrades are? will there be any official transport or something like that?

If there are no maps of Polokwane on the Internet, then where can I see the specific location on Google Maps? Polokwane is in low-resolution.

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Hi everyone!
Some info about the Peter Mokaba Stadium.

Engineering news
Published: 22 Jun 07 - 0:00

Critical milestones have been reached and construction is running according to the construction schedule at the Peter Mokaba sports complex, in Polokwane, which is one of the venues that will host matches during the 2010soccer World Cup.

Once completed, the new 45 000 permanent-seat facility will be the main venue in Limpopo province for major sports, political and musical entertainment events for decades to come. The Africon consortium design evokes a bushveld theme with four powerful ‘baobab’ structural elements at the corners of the stadium to support the roof canopy. Inside each ‘baobab’, a lift shaft and two spiral ramps provide the primary vertical routes to and from the stands.

In addition to the four identical ‘baobab’ structures, the lower tiers of all the stands as well as the upper tiers are virtually identical. The stands consist of reinforced concrete frames spaced at an average distance of 7,5 m around the perimeter. These frames have raked concrete beams on the seating side to support the precast concrete seating elements.

Essential services have been put in place at the stadium.

The services include primary power generation for critical loads such as the sports field lighting, back-up power generation, security, fire and telecommunications systems, together with outdoor action replay screens, satellite and microwave communication systems and copper- wire and fibre-optic networks. Reliability has to be entrenched through the provision of double redundant power supply to the stadium and various double redundant telecommunication uplinks with the outside world.

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Hope they not getting rid of half the roof?!!!

nope..thats just a sectional view

Hi guys. Got some new photos of the stadium. Not the best ones, but they show as much as you'll get to see without going on site. :) There are 5 cranes up, and 2 more waiting to be assembled. They have started with pillars already, as can be seen. Hope this is useful. ;) Mo, you can copy these straight into the blog.

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thanks soooo much Rib

MY favourite SA stadium!!!!!!!!!

Just wish they can make it look more baobaby

MY favourite SA stadium!!!!!!!!!

Just wish they can make it look more baobaby

Well, from what I've found out, the corner pillars were inspired by the baobab, so I'm sure there will be some connection to the tree... ;) I'd like to see it as well, LOVE this stadium!

the new render makes it look great!

they should have tons of baobab trees surrounding the stadium during 2010

they should have tons of baobab trees surrounding the stadium during 2010

My friend, THAT is impossible.. :) Baobab trees take hundreds of years to grow, and they are incredibly expensive to transport. Maybe 1 or 2, if you're lucky.. "tons", will cost you millions. Sucks, because it would look really impressive. But I can't see it happening...

My friend, THAT is impossible.. :) Baobab trees take hundreds of years to grow, and they are incredibly expensive to transport. Maybe 1 or 2, if you're lucky.. "tons", will cost you millions. Sucks, because it would look really impressive. But I can't see it happening...

really good fake ones would work just as well.

They can always make fake ones :crazy:

MY favourite SA stadium!!!!!!!!!

Just wish they can make it look more baobaby

My favourite stadium too. And its in my province too. :banana:

My favourite stadium too. And its in my province too. :banana:

My favourite as well.. :D Obviously. ;) I think a lot of people are secretly in love with this stadium, but they're too afraid to say it. :P

Btw, if they can make fake baobabs that look go, they should do it. I would love a whole lane of them there. Don't think they have the money for it though...

well maybe the area around the stadium should use paving or landscaping to represent a baobab from an aerial view or perhaps lighting etc

Rib and other Pokwane guys, can we get updates please and not only for the stadium but for every other property, transport and infrastructure related projects.

someone confirm, but the stadium seems to be having only a roof on one side now and not all 4. This is according to the stadium render in the 2010 pull out section of today's Sunday Times. and it made the stadium look real odd and not nearly as nice. however if they need to cut costs then i totally support it as they dont really need such an elaborate roof...anyone got more info?

someone confirm, but the stadium seems to be having only a roof on one side now and not all 4. This is according to the stadium render in the 2010 pull out section of today's Sunday Times. and it made the stadium look real odd and not nearly as nice. however if they need to cut costs then i totally support it as they dont really need such an elaborate roof...anyone got more info?

I saw that also Mike. I guess that's the plan but I still thinks its still nice as the overall design seem not to be comromised.

It could just be an old design.. Btw the Bafokeng render is horrible in that pullout

I saw that also Mike. I guess that's the plan but I still thinks its still nice as the overall design seem not to be comromised.

I haven't heard of any scaling down of the design. I don't believe the roof is elaborate at all. The image in the newspaper is probably the design used in the bid book and another case of pathetic journalism.

[b]Stadium scores in safety test

Khangale Makhado
22 August 2007

Construction at the new Peter Mokaba Stadium in Limpopo, one of the venues to host the 2010 Fifa World Cup matches, complies with safety and health standards.

This was announced by inspectors from the Department of Labour who made an unannounced visit to the site yesterday. The visit was part of a two-week inspection campaign in the construction sector throughout the province.

Department spokesman Joe Maila said their assessment found that the stadium complied with the provisions of health and safety.

“Among other things, they have trained health and safety representatives working at the site,” Maila said.

“We have also found that their lifting equipment is properly mounted and serviced. There are visible signs to indicate where the danger areas are.”

But Maila complained about a sub-contractor who did not provide workers with protective clothing at the site.

He said the workers had been ordered to stop working until they were provided with protective clothing.

The Department of Labour intends to visit 90 sites. The focus of the inspections would be on provision of protective equipment, appointment and functioning of safety representatives and committees, maintenance of cranes, the availability of on-site risk assessment plans and proper erection of scaffolding.

“The aim of the visits is to determine the level of compliance in the construction sector with the objective of fostering a safe and healthy working environment at workplaces,” said Maila.

It could just be an old design.. Btw the Bafokeng render is horrible in that pullout

Why do you say that? There are no renders of the stadium as its an existing venue, except for the touch-ups used in the bid book.

The render in the pullout shows the roof being replaced with 5-6 stands that sort of just sit on top of the other stands.. Have you seen it?

I haven't heard of any scaling down of the design. I don't believe the roof is elaborate at all. The image in the newspaper is probably the design used in the bid book and another case of pathetic journalism.

its definately the exact same new design, except it only has the roof on one stand not all 4. IMO i think that is a good option for that will probably save a good R75-R100m if not more

The render in the pullout shows the roof being replaced with 5-6 stands that sort of just sit on top of the other stands.. Have you seen it?

ya the royal bokokeng render in the paper is hideous. looks very US style of open stadia

its definately the exact same new design, except it only has the roof on one stand not all 4. IMO i think that is a good option for that will probably save a good R75-R100m if not more

1. I do not think the roof is elaborate. Costs have been cut where possible and the funds for the roof and stadium are available.
2. I don't think we should be calling a roof on this stadium elaborate, when we are spending large amount of money on the stadia in Cape Town and Durban, none of them have private operators secured and the Sharks/WP moving into these stadia has not been secured either. A roof on this stadium is minor in comparison to other world cup stadia and I do not think the stadium will be scaled down any further than what has already taken place.

The roof is a basic and functional design and its certainly included in the budget.

^^ yes but on this, a secondary stadium that has never needed a roof before is it a total requirement? i get what you are saying, but in SA roofs arent totally needed

^^ yes but on this, a secondary stadium that has never needed a roof before is it a total requirement? i get what you are saying, but in SA roofs arent totally needed

Of course not a total requirement but
1. This is the world cup we are talking about
2. The funds are available and not spending on the roof won't result in extra spending elsewhere.
3. Why should Soccer City, Green Point, Durban, PE get a roof, esp since these stadia already cost quite a bit more.

Same situation in Cape Town, the R1.93 billion national government could only be used for the Green Point, they could either use it or lose out on the funding.

^^ yes but gov has limited funding to the smaller stadia. Bloemfontein is still way short of its funding requirements and hence no work can even come close to starting. i wouldnt be surprised if this stadium faced the same situation

^^ yes but gov has limited funding to the smaller stadia. Bloemfontein is still way short of its funding requirements and hence no work can even come close to starting. i wouldnt be surprised if this stadium faced the same situation

Yes and they have cut down where necessary and are within budget.

How is bloemfontein way short? The 23 million is covered by the city and is in no way a train smash, there biggest problem at the moment is finding a contractor and timing the stadium construction so that its not complete too early or too late.

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The new stadium will be built adjacent to the old stadium

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lets hope they keep the roof

lets hope they keep the roof

I think they will, the render I saw in the Sunday times was probably to provide a peek into the stadium. The cost cutting process was a minor process which resulted in a better looking stadium facade. Cutting out 3/4 of the roof is simply out of the question when gvt has given you R700 million to spend.

I think this stadium kicks Leipzig's World Cup stadiums behind.

Yes and they have cut down where necessary and are within budget.

How is bloemfontein way short? The 23 million is covered by the city and is in no way a train smash, there biggest problem at the moment is finding a contractor and timing the stadium construction so that its not complete too early or too late.

i would like to know where the bloem info comes from cos i have yet to see a report stating that they have fully secured all the additional funding that the gov would not provide. alot of the time i believe people are making budget cuts from elsewhere to make a glorious stadium, when a good stadium would do. This is more important for the smaller venues and it will be hard to move me from this view.

i would like to know where the bloem info comes from cos i have yet to see a report stating that they have fully secured all the additional funding that the gov would not provide. alot of the time i believe people are making budget cuts from elsewhere to make a glorious stadium, when a good stadium would do. This is more important for the smaller venues and it will be hard to move me from this view.

I have seen reports. The shortfall is just over R20 million which the city has said it would cover. The stadium cost has remained the same and the government allocation hasn't changed either.

Bloem received : R219,066,285

Vodacom Park
Stadium:179,438,072
Services: 24,628,213
Overlay: 15,000,000
Total: 219,066,285

"The total cost of the upgrade is R241 million. The city received R221 million from national government for the upgrade and the remaining R20 million will be from the city’s coffers."

Project Name New Peter Mokaba Sporting Complex
Project Category Stadium Infrastructure
Spatial location of Project Polokwane
Project Timing Start Date: Mar 2007 End Date: June 2009 Duration: 22 months
Project Description Construction of the 45 000 seat capacity stadium build on vacant land adjacent to the existing
Peter Mokaba stadium. The stadium will also be used for rugby matches in legacy mode.
Project Value R 870.6million

will they demolish the old stadium?

Materials

Steel – structural and rebar (tons) 10,900
Cement (8 x 50kg bag in a cub mt) (tons) 23,000
Clay Bricks (sq mt) 46,326
Timber (cub mt) 25
Glass (sq mt) 1,700
Ceramic ware – tiles (sq mt) 9,346
Plastic Pipes (all diameters incl.) (m) 17,399
Roof sheet steel (sq mt) 38,360
Aggregate – Stone Mix (tons) 64,000
Ready-mix Concrete (cu mt) 12,900
Bitumen (tons) 1,200

Cranes
Cranes (unspecified categories) (units) 12

What's the progress?

I went to the virgin active next to this site about three weeks ago while in polokwane. cranes everywhere - and seem to be progressing nicely.

Cool,

Are there othe developments going on there. Ha s the city started its preperations for 2010?

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Why is there no info or updates for this venue?

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POLOKWANE’S NEW STADIUM

Gearing for 2010 – designing for posterity

While fulfilling the requirements for the 2010 FIFA™ World Cup, the new 45 000 permanent-seat facility is designed to be the main venue in the Limpopo Province for major sports, political and musical entertainment events for decades to come. The innovative Africon consortium design evokes a bushveld theme with four powerful ‘baobab’ structural elements at the corners of the stadium to support the roof canopy. Inside each ‘baobab’, a lift shaft and two spiral ramps provide the primary vertical routes to and from the stands.

The design is also noteworthy for its versatile simplicity: using a modular concept to achieve repetition of structural elements, construction time and cost have been saved. In addition to the four identical ‘baobab’ structures, the lower tiers of all the stands as well as the upper tiers are virtually identical. The stands consist of reinforced concrete frames spaced at an average distance of 7,5m around the perimeter. These frames have raked concrete beams on the seating side to support the precast concrete seating elements. The same modular principle is evident in the roof structure. This has made it possible to proceed, without having to wait for full project funding, with the construction of the 8 300m² roof over the western stand in accordance with FIFA requirements. As additional funds become available, the design has made provision for the other stands to be easily roofed over.

The most sophisticated design work and intensive planning is going into providing the electrical and electronic engineering services for the stadium. The 2010 FIFA™ World Cup will be the premier global media event and the challenge is not only to provide appropriate services but to predict the trends in technology that should be accommodated. Africon refers to this as providing the correct Electro-Technical Ecology to ensure the successful staging and broadcasting of the 2010 soccer matches, while ensuring sensible ‘legacy’ employment of those services beyond 2010. The services embrace a multitude of facets including primary power generation for critical loads such as the sport field lighting, back-up power generation, security, fire and telecommunications systems, together with outdoor action-replay screens, satellite and microwave communication systems, copper wire and fibre-optic networks. Reliability has to be entrenched through the provision of double-redundant power supply to the stadium and various double-redundant telecommunication uplinks with the outside world.

Equipped with over 9 800 light fittings, in addition to its arsenal of other electronic equipment and 420km of wiring and cabling, the stadium will use enough power to run a small town. However, the most interesting exercise is predicting the future and creating a real legacy stadium that is efficient and effective after the World Cup trophy has been won! A typical example of a legacy requirement is the necessity to design the playing field lighting to meet the needs of High Definition television.

Translating the complexities of a modern, world-class sports stadium into a well-engineered and managed reality is a challenging task. Well up to the challenge, Africon’s experienced professional team and their consortium associates are ensuring that the Peter Mokaba Stadium project is on track to be handed over as a proud asset for the people of Limpopo in June 2009.

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despite its simplicity and only one quarter of the seats being covered by a roof, i really like this stadium

These are small and blurred but they are the first pics from inside the peter mokaba stadium construction site for almost a year so i though id post them.

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there are also small pics from bloemfontein that you can add from the fifa website.

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Today's Sunday Times.

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great supplement

Where'd you get the paper from Pule?

Where'd you get the paper from Pule?

Sunday Times.

Polokwane on track for June 2009


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It's amazing the progress all our stadia are making.

Gearing up for 2010 plumbing works at the Peter Mokaba Stadium in Polokwane
By Staff Reporter
Apr 4, 2008, 19:57

External:

The main contract started around March 2007, with clearing and bulk earthworks getting started during the month. Site establishment started in April, with the main offices being completed by mid May.

Due to the design, the foundations for the basement on the western side had to be blasted into the rock. Due to the large amount of rock on the whole site, all services in the ground is in rock. Most of the trenches had to be blasted in order to get to invert level.

According to Tjaart Janse van Rensburg of WBHO, the storm water installation was the first work to be done by the plumbing team.

“We started with the 600ø spigot and socket pipe in the communal trench that had been blasted in the basement area. Rocla Polokwane supplied all storm water pipes. This was high priority, because the main contractor required this area to start bases and foundations. Africon designed the storm water reticulation,” Janse van Rensburg said.

“Once we set out, it became clear that due to the nature of the rock over-blasting had taken place, resulting in over-excavation. This meant that in order to install the pipe at the correct invert level, we had to build up a platform in order to create the bedding for the pipe.”

Once the pipe was installed, we had to backfill using the same material as was excavated from the blasted trench. This caused for slow progress, because the soil had to be cleared of all rocks bigger than 50mm ø. Once the backfilling had been completed, the platform for the sewer had to build. Keeping the junction boxes and sewer manholes separate, turned to be quite a headache, because the trench has turns, and both services followed the same line.”

Whilst the drainage team had been busy in the basement area, another team started with external storm water. This pipeline was located much deeper than the basement line. Once again, due the rocky trench bed, the plumbing team had to build platforms to get to level.

Luckily, they started at the end of May 2007, so they did not have rain during the winter time, which helped a lot with production. As the internal (basement) services were being completed, work started on the 1430m long sewer line. The design specified a 200ø class 200 kPa, heavy structured wall sewer pipe. The pipe was supplied by Incledons in Polokwane. This type of pipe was specified due to the rocky nature of the area and the fact that the sewer system ran underneath the Stadium. Africon designed the Sewer system.

The sewer system posed its own set of challenges. Being almost five meter deep in some areas called for caution and a high level of safety for the people inside and outside the trench. Bedding had to be carefully sifted to obtain material good enough for the bedding. After laying the pipe, the soil had to be sifted again for the blanket layer over the drain.

“One advantage of the heavy duty under ground pipe is that the pipe stays fairly straight, making it very easy to get it into line. Pre-cast concrete manhole rings were used for manholes. These were supplied by Rocla Polokwane.

“The sewer followed the road all the way into town, were we connected to the council’s 600ø sewer system. Working in public areas is always very risky, because damage to property and safety of persons are always a possibility and priority. Proper signage and barricades were installed and maintained at all times while working next to the roads. Getting to the council’s sewer called for two roads to be crossed. One at the entrance to the local Golf course, and the other at the local Bowling club. Two entrances you do not want to close in Polokwane!”

The solution was to install the pipe up to the road, close the trench, and make a temporary access, then cross the road. Due to the long distance of the drain, the fall was 1:200. This made for a very “flat” installation. This results in the drain flowing very slowly and almost a third of the pipe full. The connection into the council’s system was in a road. Luckily it was a two lane road, and one lane could be closed.

Bulk water supply to the stadium comes from two different supplies. The first line of 200ø is taken from the town’s ring main that runs adjacent to the site. This ring is the secondary supply and has working pressure of four bar. The second supply line of 300ø comes from the main supply to Polokwane, which is a 600ø steel line with pressure up to 15 bar. This will be the dominant supply to the stadium. The two pipes are connected and each pipe has its own Flap type Non Return Valve. Which ever pipe has the most pressure will supply the stadium.

The playing field has its own storm water drainage system. It consists of a 300ø and 375ø concrete pipe line on both east and west sides of the pitch. There will then be a subsoil system in a chevron / “herring bone” pattern. This is a 160ø perforated pipe, wrapped in 19mm stone and Bidim. This will only be installed at the end of September 2008. Currently there are too many construction activities in progress on the pitch, such as cranes, rakers, storage, etc.

Internal:

The internal plumbing is unique in the sense that no-one involved in the project has not done a stadium before. It means that the contractors are heavily involved in design and resolving design issues. The drainage design is done by Prism Architects. The water reticulation is designed by Kyle and Associates.

FIFA requirements are strictly adhered to as far as the amount of ablutions and sanitary units are concerned.

The main internal water supply is Grooved GMS pipe from Robor. Sizes are 150ø and 100ø. There are ablution blocks on all levels of the stadium. The highest being the TV Gantry level. This is approximately 25m from ground level. In order to supply adequate pressure, the system will be supplied at seven bar pressure on the ground floor. The incoming line will be reduced from 15 bar to 7.5 bar. The ring main is almost complete on the ground floor and basement level. From here risers go up to the upper levels.

The Conventional Fire protection is also 150ø GMS Grooved pipe from Robor. It was decided to use the Klambon system due the high production rate and labor saving installation. Threading and screwing in a 150øGMS pipe at six meter off the ground is a challenging task labour intensive, due to the design of the stadium, which is more or less oval in shape. This doesn’t allow for straight runs of pipe. With the grooved pipe system, the movement on the couplings, allowed a very efficient pipe run which follows the curve of the building. This wouldn’t have worked as well with the thread and screwed pipe system, according to Janse van Rensburg.

“Domestic water supply copper class 460/0. A lot of other options were looked at, but the tried and tested option was chosen for exactly that reason.

“To specify a Sanitary Schedule was also a lot of work. Being a stadium, it was required to have sanitaryware that is both durable and desirable. Items had to be found that work well, present well and are cost effective. Of course vandalism is a major issue when specifying sanitaryware. Ultimately, there is no such thing as vandal proof, but only vandal resistant up to a point. Above all, cost is the determining factor in the final specification. Trusted sanitaryware and brassware were once again specified. Cobra Flushmasters and metering taps. Vaal sanitaryware for the WC’s, urinals and WHB’s.”

“The total quantities are still to be confirmed, but it will definitely be more 600 toilets, 380 basins and 350 urinals. Keeping in mind that it is not just a pan. It is a pan, the pan connector, the flushmaster, the flush pipe, the seat. And then one needs to get water to the pan and remove the waste away from it. When one think about it like that, it becomes clear that this is a major plumbing contract on a scale not all too familiar too the local plumbing scene. It is truly a challenge and a great feeling to be part of this project.

that roof is nice, they should have put another one on the other side :(

that roof is nice, they should have put another one on the other side :(

costs.

You and your freaking costs Mo!

LOL, his right though, I mean how are the councilor's gonna benifit anyway? They have to put some money in their back pocket ;)

Our Polokwane forumers have disappeard, Mo if you can please get us updates on this one.

full updates on the weekend.

Great looking forward to it

Progress: Peter Mokaba Stadium 46,000 seats

Overall, the project is not progressing well
Status:

- 29 days behind initial completion date
- Contractual completion date is 15 May 2009
- Projected completion date 30 June 2009

Delays:
- Late award of subcontracts
- Inadequate allocation of resources
- Poor management of project by city

Budget:

Overruns: Major risk

Project still ON TRACKto be completed by the LOC/FIFA completion date

http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/81836379.jpg?v=1&c=MS_GINS&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1934B869679A269F9CCCE03965513D5EB5CE30A760B0D811297
http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/81836374.jpg?v=1&c=MS_GINS&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1934B869679A269F9CC3D18FE3786727200E30A760B0D811297
http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/81836375.jpg?v=1&c=MS_GINS&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1934B869679A269F9CCF31F52B7FCDABE95E30A760B0D811297
http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/81836377.jpg?v=1&c=MS_GINS&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1934B869679A269F9CC02E59ED4B6FC5259E30A760B0D811297

another cool stadium this

Unfortunately been some labour problems on this stadium.

wouldnt mind some photos...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3105/2655181625_7583dff1f8_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3163/2655817512_2e652af6dc_b.jpg

They have a website!!! Better than some other host cities
http://www.polokwane.gov.za/2010/

http://www.polokwane.gov.za/2010/projects/project2.gif

http://www.polokwane.gov.za/2010/projects/proj10_1.gif

Training Venues:

Seshego Stadium

http://www.polokwane.gov.za/2010/projects/proj4_4.gif

Peter Mokaba

http://www.polokwane.gov.za/2010/projects/proj4_5.gif
http://www.polokwane.gov.za/2010/projects/proj4_1.gif
http://www.polokwane.gov.za/2010/projects/proj4_2.gif

Here is another MTN webcam
http://ota.mtn.co.za/webcam/0141_PeterMokabeStadium.jpg

Add this one too :)

Webcams of all the new stadia!!!!

Here is another MTN webcam
http://ota.mtn.co.za/webcam/0141_PeterMokabeStadium.jpg

looks like its in the middle of nowhere.

Hey guys!

Sorry for being pretty much dead for the last few months... I've been incredibly busy with studying, and then I lost my internet connection as well, so that sucked.. :(

Anyway, enough excuses, I should be able to post more often now. :) Just to update on this stadium; I was in Polokwane a week ago, and it's looking really good. I didn't get to take pictures, was only there for a day, but I'll do that the next time I'm there.

The webcam shot doesn't really do it justice. It's actually quite an imposing structure! It sucks that they're only doing half the roof now, but it's still going to look good.

Oh, and about it looking like it's in the middle of nowhere.. :) It's just because it's literally on the edge of the city, and the photo was taken from the city-side. It's just being built on a big open plot next to the old stadium, which creates that illusion of 'nothing' around it. When it's all done, it will look much better. ;)

Anyway, that's all I can give you guys right now concerning the stadium. Will definitely get photos the next time I'm there!

looks like its in the middle of nowhere.

I think for many people (and me), this is what is good about Africa

http://www.africon.com/FileUploads/Images/peter%20mokaba%20sports%20stadium%20pic%2021.jpg
http://www.africon.com/FileUploads/Images/peter%20mokaba%20sports%20stadium%20pic%201.jpg

July 6

http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/81836377.jpg?v=1&c=MS_GINS&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1934B869679A269F9CC02E59ED4B6FC5259E30A760B0D811297
http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/81836375.jpg?v=1&c=MS_GINS&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1934B869679A269F9CCF31F52B7FCDABE95E30A760B0D811297
http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/81836374.jpg?v=1&c=MS_GINS&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1934B869679A269F9CC3D18FE3786727200E30A760B0D811297

Found an intersting pic of the stadium, didn't realise it was so close to the airport - great news for logistics!

http://www.avcom.co.za/phpBB3/download/file.php?id=41527&mode=view
c/o: http://www.avcom.co.za/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=38353

Looking good!

She's rising!!

Good find! :) I really like this stadium. It's going to look awesome when it's done!

That's not Polokwane International Airport though, just to put it right. :) There is a smaller airport on that side of the city, with mostly private charter planes. The big airport is about 15min drive from the stadium.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3060/2924206106_b077378c06_b.jpg

wow another great find big Mo.........keep it up dawg

nice one

is there much around it? how is the hotel/accomodation issue going here?

2010 stadium funds dry up

08 October 2008
Alex Matlala

ALMOST THERE: Journalists inspect progress at the new Peter Mokaba 2010 complex on Monday. PHOTO: ELIJAR MUSHIANA

The completion of the Peter Mokaba 2010 Soccer World Cup Sports Complex in Limpopo could be derailed because its R1,3billion budget has been exhausted.

This was announced yesterday by Polokwane executive mayor Thabo Makunyane at a media briefing.

Makunyane said the design of the stadium was 99 percent complete but that the construction was only 51 percent done.

The spending on the budget stood at 62 percent.

“The construction of the stadium was budgeted at R1,3 billion, which is almost exhausted,” Makunyane said. “The remaining 49 percent of the stadium will need an extra R251 million.”

He said the municipality, with the Local Organising Committee, had approached the Treasury and would also approach the Development Bank of Southern Africa for funding.

Construction started in March last year and was supposed to have been completed by March this year.

“But because of rains and labour-related problems work was hampered and the completion period extended,” Makunyane said.

“If we get the funds in time the entire complex will be finished before the Fifa June 2009 deadline,” he promised.

Makunyane said that as host city Polokwane would within a few weeks experience a series of changes on the roads leading to the CBD and stadium.

He said most of the roads in the city would be revamped to cope with the volume of transport anticipated during the games.

“We have a budget of R143million from the national Department of Transport for the improvement of roads infrastructure around the city and the stadium,” Makunyane said.

He said several streets that would undergo major upgrades.

WOW. from just looking at the webcam pics you forget how big the stadiums are. Nice one.

Fifa visit

Looks like the Roof elements have started to arrive.....

http://www.fifa.com/mm/photo/tournament/destination/91/08/55/910855%5ffull-lnd.jpg

http://www.backpagepix.co.za/live/imgadmin/getimage.php?id=13238&type=c
http://www.backpagepix.co.za/live/imgadmin/getimage.php?id=13237&type=c
http://www.backpagepix.co.za/live/imgadmin/getimage.php?id=13240&type=c
http://www.backpagepix.co.za/live/imgadmin/getimage.php?id=13244&type=c
http://www.backpagepix.co.za/live/imgadmin/getimage.php?id=13241&type=c
http://www.backpagepix.co.za/live/imgadmin/getimage.php?id=13250&type=c

2010 stadium funds dry up

08 October 2008
Alex Matlala

ALMOST THERE: Journalists inspect progress at the new Peter Mokaba 2010 complex on Monday. PHOTO: ELIJAR MUSHIANA

The completion of the Peter Mokaba 2010 Soccer World Cup Sports Complex in Limpopo could be derailed because its R1,3billion budget has been exhausted.

This was announced yesterday by Polokwane executive mayor Thabo Makunyane at a media briefing.

Makunyane said the design of the stadium was 99 percent complete but that the construction was only 51 percent done.

The spending on the budget stood at 62 percent.

“The construction of the stadium was budgeted at R1,3 billion, which is almost exhausted,” Makunyane said. “The remaining 49 percent of the stadium will need an extra R251 million.”

He said the municipality, with the Local Organising Committee, had approached the Treasury and would also approach the Development Bank of Southern Africa for funding.

Construction started in March last year and was supposed to have been completed by March this year.

“But because of rains and labour-related problems work was hampered and the completion period extended,” Makunyane said.

“If we get the funds in time the entire complex will be finished before the Fifa June 2009 deadline,” he promised.

Makunyane said that as host city Polokwane would within a few weeks experience a series of changes on the roads leading to the CBD and stadium.

He said most of the roads in the city would be revamped to cope with the volume of transport anticipated during the games.

“We have a budget of R143million from the national Department of Transport for the improvement of roads infrastructure around the city and the stadium,” Makunyane said.

He said several streets that would undergo major upgrades.


This is worrying...surely plans were made before letting the money all go????

This is worrying...surely plans were made before letting the money all go????

Cape Town will take the lead again and make it public that costs at all venues have risen and gvt will need to plug shortfalls. I'm sure it will be sorted out. Zille recently notified the transport minister about this but he said its all "ok".

Cape Town will take the lead again and make it public that costs at all venues have risen and gvt will need to plug shortfalls. I'm sure it will be sorted out. Zille recently notified the transport minister about this but he said its all "ok".

As I was saying.....


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R1.4bn more for 2010 stadiums
Oct 21 2008 14:44

Cape Town - National government has set aside an extra R1.4 billion this financial year to cover the burgeoning cost of the country's 2010 Soccer World Cup stadiums.

The allocation was made in the adjustment budget tabled on Tuesday.

In addition, R600m has been allocated for high-speed internet access between the stadiums and Telkom's national network.

The medium-term budget policy statement tabled by Finance Minister Trevor Manuel said preparations for the tournament remained "on course", though costs had escalated beyond the initial budget.

"Government will provide funding to accommodate part of the cost overruns, with municipalities sharing this burden," it said.

Support would also be provided for the migration to digital television to meet international broadcasting requirements.

It said host cities would also benefit from an extra three-year R835m allocation for public transport infrastructure.

- Sapa

Yeah the transport thing is a big worry in pe. I think we had something like 600 million towards the new BRT but now that money isnt being payed out.

When will be opening this stadium?

I see from the webcam that the roof is progressing nicely. shweet :D

The National Route (N1) is the link between South Africa and the rest of Africa, and forms an essential link to stimulate economic growth in sub-Saharan Africa, as well as local economic development in the metropolitan area of Polokwane. SANRAL has a 30-year strategy whereby continuous upgrading of the N1 Great North toll road is
taking place. SANRAL recently upgraded sections between Makhado and Musina, and is currently upgrading the section between Beit Bridge and Musina. Furthermore, planning for a ring road at Musina is far advanced,
leaving the section of the N1 at Polokwane as the only section that is not free flowing on the N1 north. As a result, Polokwane experiences a mixbetween local and through traffic in their CBD, resulting in pedestrian
conflict, as well as damage to the local road pavements. Taking through traffic out of the CBD, will have a positive effect on the road-user safety, ambience and nature of the CBD. The proposal includes the construction of interchanges at cross roads such as the Burgersfort (R37), Tzaneen (R71), and R81 roads, which will also improve the accessibility to Moria.



The scope of work for the eastern ring road includes:

New section of the N1-27 between the P43-1 interchange
and the N1-28X interchange

This 6km section of road is a ‘Greenfield’s’ section and is the last remaining
section of road that is to be constructed to complete the eastern ring road. The full road reserve width for this section has been acquired.

The construction of the N1-28 interchange

This interchange is to be constructed in order to give preference to traffic travelling from the south, on the new N1-27, towards the north of the country. Traffic from the north of the country travelling to the south on the N1-27 bypass will also receive preference in the design. Traffic flow towards the Polokwane CBD will, however, remain possible.

The construction of the Road 22 overpass

The existing alignment of Road 22 is to be changed, and a road-overroad bridge is to be constructed. The construction of the railway line road-over-road-rail bridge This road-over-rail-bridge is to be constructed with a residential access road to the south of the railway line to provide access to new residential developments on either side of the N1-27.

The construction of the P43-1 interchange

The construction of the interchange will improve capacity and safety at the P43-1/N1-27 interchange. The construction of an overpass between the P17-1 and
P43-1 interchanges (road-over-road)This overpass is to be constructed to link current residential and commercial
developments that are currently taking place next to the N1-27. The construction of the N1-27 between Road P17-1 and Road P43-1 The existing road has been constructed on the alignment of a future service road. This alignment cannot be used and will be replaced with a new section of road on the correct alignment of the N1-27.

The construction of the P17-1 interchange

The construction of this diamond interchange will improve capacity and safety at the P17-1/N1-27 intersection.

The construction of the stadium interchange

The construction of this combination diamond interchange will improve capacity and safety at the intersection to the soccer stadium.

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/PeterMokabaRoad.jpg

Polokwane is a well-planned city. the n1 runs through the cbd. the airport is located north of the cbd and the stadium south of it. driving on the n1 before you enter the city, there is an off-ramp at 1) maropa casino, that takes you to the stadium, but before that you find the 2) road to the open-air museum on ur right then 3) the golf course on your left and 4) game reserve on your right. after that u find the stadium on your left and civil airfield on your right. the road takes you east before going north (all this already exists) from there you cross the freeway that goes to moria and kruger park, this is where the big 5) new mall is to be located from there it goes further north meeting the international airport/old saaf base just to the west of the intersection. God bless the ring-road!

Polokwane is a well-planned city. the n1 runs through the cbd. the airport is located north of the cbd and the stadium south of it. driving on the n1 before you enter the city, there is an off-ramp at 1) maropa casino, that takes you to the stadium, but before that you find the 2) road to the open-air museum on ur right then 3) the golf course on your left and 4) game reserve on your right. after that u find the stadium on your left and civil airfield on your right. the road takes you east before going north (all this already exists) from there you cross the freeway that goes to moria and kruger park, this is where the big 5) new mall is to be located from there it goes further north meeting the international airport/old saaf base just to the west of the intersection. God bless the ring-road!
pics please. thanks for the description! nice to know from somebody who lives there.

Haven't been there since last december. but l grew up there. Wish l could get pics Mo.

Mo, I finish exams at the end of November, after which I'll be in Polokwane for most of December. I'll definitely go drive around and take some photos, I really owe you guys a proper update. :)

Thank Rib :) as i will update Mose M Stadium in durban where it not far from my home.

Hi, this is my first post at SA forums.
I found some pics of the stadium (set-2008): http://www.wbho.co.za/item.php?i_id=226#

*Excuse my English still faulty...

Thanks man....always happy to see international involvement

Thanks Ranma, & welcome to the SA forums :D

scheduled flights from Polokwane only go to Jhb right?

Guys just a quick question. I know the roof is covering only the grandstand - can be seen on the webcam. Same case in Rustenburg, but does that match up to FIFA requirements? Just been thinking now, isnt there a requirement put down by FIFA that says more seats must be under cover

I'm pretty sad to see that they're only going with the one roof:cry:

Guys just a quick question. I know the roof is covering only the grandstand - can be seen on the webcam. Same case in Rustenburg, but does that match up to FIFA requirements? Just been thinking now, isnt there a requirement put down by FIFA that says more seats must be under cover

FIFA requires the west stand to be under cover. I need to check if thats an official rule or unwritten rule.

FIFA requires the west stand to be under cover. I need to check if thats an official rule or unwritten rule.

FIFA requires the VVIP, VIP, media and substitute players to be under cover.

FIFA requires the VVIP, VIP, media and substitute players to be under cover.

cool.thanks. which are located in the west stand.

Another webcam on the blink!

pics!! now!!

FIFA requires the west stand to be under cover. I need to check if thats an official rule or unwritten rule.

5.2. The Stadium shall provide seats for every spectator implementing the requisite safety standards. Each spectator shall be allotted an individual, numbered seat with a backrest at least 30 cm high. All the seats should preferably be under cover.

5.3. The Tribune d’Honneur and the work positions for the Media must be under cover. The first row for spectators shall, in principle, be 2.5 m above pitch level.

But i guess that specification isnt as strict in sa esp at polokwane in winter as polokwane is dry in winter

But i guess that specification isnt as strict in sa esp at polokwane in winter as polokwane is dry in winter

we dont get special treatment with FIFA requirements.

we dont get special treatment with FIFA requirements.

I'm then particularly surprised FIFA allowed two of our stadia which only cover about 1/4 of the spectators.

I'm then particularly surprised FIFA allowed two of our stadia which only cover about 1/4 of the spectators.

read the requirements again.

Yeah i know it says preferably, just i would have thought for a major tournament like the world cup, fifa would have made sure all things, including preferably, met the requirements. Just seems strange to me that two world cup hosting stadiums have only the grand stand covered.

Yeah i know it says preferably, just i would have thought for a major tournament like the world cup, fifa would have made sure all things, including preferably, met the requirements. Just seems strange to me that two world cup hosting stadiums have only the grand stand covered.

preferable is not a requirement. preferably applies where weather is a major issue e.g. cape town. the requirement is to cover media areas etc. and that requirement is met at all stadia, since we only have budgets to meet those requirements at those stadia. mokaba had a full roof but due to the budget had to settle for the fifa requirement of a roof over the western stand.

they can still add the other roofs at a later stage. were these requirements updated recently. i just keep thinking of the club stade velodrome in marseille. this stadium will have very similiar roof covering when finished.
http://marseille13.canalblog.com/images/t-velodrome_nuit.JPG
http://www.cedric.venigo.fr/wordpress_podrugby/wp-content/themes/default/images/stade-velodrome.jpg

As far as I understand only the Durban roof covers all seats.
Cape Town's roof cuts short on the main stands. PE has around 14 rows uncovered all the way round and Mbombela 4 rows or 4% of seats.
On the long stands the Soccer City roof cantilevers about 50%.
I am a little fuzzy on the roofs for the confed cup stadiums.
Those last few meters cost way more than the first and as we are seeing from the cost overuns the roofs cost lots and lots of money. But they are also central in completing the design.

yes, i thought that most of our stadiums left seats uncovered. most stadiums in the world do.

As far as I understand only the Durban roof covers all seats.
Cape Town's roof cuts short on the main stands. PE has around 14 rows uncovered all the way round and Mbombela 4 rows or 4% of seats.
On the long stands the Soccer City roof cantilevers about 50%.
I am a little fuzzy on the roofs for the confed cup stadiums.
Those last few meters cost way more than the first and as we are seeing from the cost overuns the roofs cost lots and lots of money. But they are also central in completing the design.

In Bloem, the roof covers upper tier of both grand stand and rest of the stadium.
Rustenburg just the upper tier of the grand stand
Loftus about 50% of the upper tier, i.e. new roof and the entire upper tier of the grand stand
Ellis Park, portions of each upper tier, about 50%

Due to the design revision and shape of Cape Town's roof, a fraction of the first few rows at the east and west stand only don't have direct cover. The entire roof itself is a major bargain at R430 million.

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/Image0168-1.jpg
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/Image0169-1.jpg

yes, i thought that most of our stadiums left seats uncovered. most stadiums in the world do.

Soccer City, I heard was always only going to have a partial roof to provide sunlight to the pitch. The same for Bloem.
There is a balance between covering up the stadium and leaving a portion open to allow sunlight, an additional benefit is that you save money. Tad could obviously provide more insight.

But we are seeing with stadia is the trend to provide a transparent portion of the areas that require sunlight for the field. We see this being incorporated more and more into stadia design these days. The basic point would be why pay extra for another few rows to be covered by glass when one could save costs and hassles of shadows by leaving it open.

Exhibit 1: Allianz Arena

I don't like Allianz Arena period, but the roof is even worse. Its as if somebody forgot to complete the last corner! uhm eew!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d7/Allianz_Arena%2C_aerial_view.jpg/702px-Allianz_Arena%2C_aerial_view.jpg
http://www.lenzing.com/images/units_plastics/stadium_economics_120.jpg

Exhibit 2: Dombass Arena

If you look at Dombass Arena, they actually create a unsymmetrical roof, that is slanted towards the sunlight, with the inner glass section larger at the one end. Again, one could cut the cost of the extra design feature, and materials and just not have an overbearing roof.

http://stadiony.net/projects/shakhtar_stadium/shakhtar_stadium04.jpg
http://stadiony.net/projects/shakhtar_stadium/shakhtar_stadium07.jpg

Exhibit 3: Wroclaw Stadium

Similar to Dombass, except a flat roof with a glass membrane larger in certain areas to improve sunlight to the pitch.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/gesah/DSCF0618.jpg
http://www.prw.pl/img/attachments/500_1227115153.jpg

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/StadiumPrecinct.png

Hey guys,

I arrived in Polokwane two days ago, only got round to taking some stadium photos today. It's become quite an imposing structure! Not in the same way as Greenpoint or Soccer City of course, but it's still pretty damn big. ;) Anyway, I promised to upload some photos, so here they are.

There weren't a lot of people on site today, but they were definitely busy. Still quite a bit of precast seating to go up, main stand is almost done though, as you can see.

Mo, how recent is that plan of the stadium you posted today? I really hope they still build the complete roof, but it's near impossible to find any information about this.

http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq104/HannoSteyn/1.jpg

http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq104/HannoSteyn/2.jpg

http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq104/HannoSteyn/3.jpg

http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq104/HannoSteyn/4.jpg

http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq104/HannoSteyn/5.jpg

http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq104/HannoSteyn/6.jpg

http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq104/HannoSteyn/7.jpg

well done...

^^ Thanks a million for the pix!!! :cheers: Probably one of the best updates we've had for this stadium in absolute AGES.

Rib - thanks for the great pictures. The connection of truss ends to fan elements have an interesting double bearing, presumably for thermal movement. Close-ups would be good.

On the roof FIFA is easy except for the non-negotiables of V/VIP Media and substitutes. In truth a stadium roof has more to do with bragging rights and less about functionality. During a Cape storm the rain not very many seats will remain dry. Except for a total roof most of those seated on the east stand will not be shaded from the afternoon sun whilst even a small roof on west will put all those seats in the shade. The roof is a poor controller of the elements but a big part of the feel of the stadium. The roof keeps in the energy of the crowd and amplifies the noise. The inner roof edge must stay low. As the roof opening gets higher you get less sun on the pitch, reduced weather protection and more sun on seats - a triple whammy.

Sunlight to the grass is less of an issue in SA. The north end of the Newlands pitch gets zero direct sun in winter and yet it always looks good because it is overseeded with winter grass. Lack of Ventilation to the grass is a big issue in any large stadium and is typically managed by large movable fans. Lights to grow grass have been very succesfull in the UK and even with their big elec. bill.

FIFA is actually quite relaxed on very many aspects of the stadiums but on the core elements they are non-negotiable and none more so than the broadcast signal. The pitch lighting must be 2000lux which is halfway to full sunlight. The lights will be on during day games to reduce those irritating pitch shadows. Each stadium must have doubled generators that each can maintain most of the pitch lighting on its own and the backup for these is the national grid. This was the same for WC2006 and not because of Escom. The generators must be left running for many hours before any game. WC2010 will consume about R8mill of diesel. They also were insistent on the seating nos. and this was 40,000 for the group games.

Rib - thanks for the great pictures. The connection of truss ends to fan elements have an interesting double bearing, presumably for thermal movement. Close-ups would be good.

On the roof FIFA is easy except for the non-negotiables of V/VIP Media and substitutes. In truth a stadium roof has more to do with bragging rights and less about functionality. During a Cape storm the rain not very many seats will remain dry. Except for a total roof most of those seated on the east stand will not be shaded from the afternoon sun whilst even a small roof on west will put all those seats in the shade. The roof is a poor controller of the elements but a big part of the feel of the stadium. The roof keeps in the energy of the crowd and amplifies the noise. The inner roof edge must stay low. As the roof opening gets higher you get less sun on the pitch, reduced weather protection and more sun on seats - a triple whammy.

Sunlight to the grass is less of an issue in SA. The north end of the Newlands pitch gets zero direct sun in winter and yet it always looks good because it is overseeded with winter grass. Lack of Ventilation to the grass is a big issue in any large stadium and is typically managed by large movable fans. Lights to grow grass have been very succesfull in the UK and even with their big elec. bill.

FIFA is actually quite relaxed on very many aspects of the stadiums but on the core elements they are non-negotiable and none more so than the broadcast signal. The pitch lighting must be 2000lux which is halfway to full sunlight. The lights will be on during day games to reduce those irritating pitch shadows. Each stadium must have doubled generators that each can maintain most of the pitch lighting on its own and the backup for these is the national grid. This was the same for WC2006 and not because of Escom. The generators must be left running for many hours before any game. WC2010 will consume about R8mill of diesel. They also were insistent on the seating nos. and this was 40,000 for the group games.

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I noticed the truss ends as well. Unfortunately I don't have a bigger zoom lens, so I couldn't get proper close-ups.

Seeing as we haven't really found proper confirmation about the final roof design for this stadium, I'm still hoping that they got extra funding and decided to do the complete set. The support pillars opposite the main stand aren't complete yet (as can be seen in the 6th photo), so maybe they'll surprise us. :) Here's to hope anyway.. ;)

During a Cape storm the rain not very many seats will remain dry. Except for a total roof most of those seated on the east stand will not be shaded from the afternoon sun whilst even a small roof on west will put all those seats in the shade. The roof is a poor controller of the elements but a big part of the feel of the stadium. The roof keeps in the energy of the crowd and amplifies the noise. The inner roof edge must stay low. As the roof opening gets higher you get less sun on the pitch, reduced weather protection and more sun on seats - a triple whammy.


sounds like Green Point to me...:)
our own SSC expert!! thanks

Rib. thanks a million. its beautiful and huge!
The roof is final, only the western stand will be covered. The remainder of the roof can be completed if funds are available post 2010.

:) I owed you guys, have been unable to update for too long, so...

I noticed the truss ends as well. Unfortunately I don't have a bigger zoom lens, so I couldn't get proper close-ups.

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I will ask the structural steel contractor about further detail on the truss end support bearings and perhaps some pictures. The same company doing the Mbombela roof is involved on Polokwane.

They are having trouble finding money for the west stand roof let alone the rest.

The Y support columns to the upper tier rakers beams have come out nicely.

Mo you are too hard on Allianz Arena.

Its roof is a marvel. The plastic bubbles are indiviidualy pumped with dried air. When its snows a helicopter is called in to blow it off before it becomes too heavy or freezes. When it rains/ hail the pressure is upped.
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The ceiling is fitted with tapered curtains.
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The lights in the bubbles can switched between white red and blue to animated many variations which is very cool. But there is just one problem. Because it is right on the freeway the traffic authorities have banned the lightshows because they usually cause accidents. So its only one colour at a time but even that is spectacluar at night.
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uM last time i checked this wasn't about allianz and its merits. that ship sailed four years ago boys ;-)

Mo you are too hard on Allianz Arena.


if i was 5 years old, id prob be impressed by a stadium that could change colour. its a big toilet bowl in a concrete parking lot.

The design is basic but served the purpose Mo, the obvious WOW factor of the stadium had to be the facade and IMO its blody stunning. First time I think such facade had been used, with the aircushion system. Also the retractable blinds allow extra lighting angles for the pitch growth, kinda the same way Wembly's side roof's open and close.

As for Peter M, his looking great, thanks for the stunning pic's Rib.

sounds like Green Point to me...:)
our own SSC expert!! thanks

Rib. thanks a million. its beautiful and huge!
The roof is final, only the western stand will be covered. The remainder of the roof can be completed if funds are available post 2010.

so u saying the stadium wont look like the renders.....thought the whole stadium will be covered as per the renders.

so u saying the stadium wont look like the renders.....thought the whole stadium will be covered as per the renders.

the renders for the last year have shown only the western stand covered.

if i was 5 years old, id prob be impressed by a stadium that could change colour. its a big toilet bowl in a concrete parking lot.

:hilarious

the renders for the last year have shown only the western stand covered.

http://www.afl-uk.com/files/projects/large/01_MainImage.jpg
http://www.afl-uk.com/files/projects/large/pm001.jpg
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will the uncovered stands also have a glass facade? in those renders it shows big banners covering them.

i that that was an old render.?

nevermind, responded to the wrong pics on the wrong page:nuts:

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Those plates are about 100mm thick!!!
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What I thought was a double bearing were these 2 flanged connector plates.
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great pix tad...man the stadium would look real good with all the room covered...but its all good

These are a bit old.
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very nice

Nice Tad, would like to see the latest from the arial like that. Thanks man

I still dig this stadium, cool design

Would have loved the roof all around, Polokwane is hot. But yeah, i still like it. its unique.

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I read an IOL article that says the new Peter Mokaba Complex will be unveiled in Bafana Chile game

I read an IOL article that says the new Peter Mokaba Complex will be unveiled in Bafana Chile game

Well they're dizzy... the chile game is being played in the old Peter Mokaba stadium right next to the one being built.

thats what i thought. And besides its only gonna be completed in about june so makes no sense

thats what i thought. And besides its only gonna be completed in about june so makes no sense

Lukus, i think this guy must have no clue about our stadiums, he must have heared the name Peiter Mokaba and thought Ok thats the one they are building.

Just got a bit excited thats all, when he said they're unveiling it. Thought he knew something we didn't

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I grew up here and haven't been on this site since the foundations were dug :'( I think it is great that the stadium won't have a roof all around. polokwane has the best weather in SA in my humble opinion, but for real, that's what l miss most about this place.

Thanks to MTN for getting the webcam going again.

Seat colours in a wavy dune effect.
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Seat example
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Thought the seats were yellow

Awesome colours! Mo will the wavy dune effect be similar to the Liepzig 2006 WC stadium?

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