China Mobile Ltd., the world's largest cellular operator by market value, had a 23-per-cent gain in second-quarter profit after adding a record number of subscribers. Profit rose to 15.8 billion yuan ($2.2-billion) from 12.8 billion yuan a year earlier. Sales increased to 82.1 billion yuan from 59.6 billion yuan. China Mobile, which overtook Vodafone as the world's largest mobile carrier last month, added a record 13.1 million customers in the period. 941 (Hong Kong) fell 65 cents Hong Kong (9.4 cents) to $51.70. Bloomberg

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20060818.RTICKERB18-5/TPStory/?query=China

the second is china unicom!

China overtakes the UK in economic size now a chinese company over takes the uk's vodaphone as largest mobile phone operator, what next?

China overtakes the UK in economic size now a chinese company over takes the uk's vodaphone as largest mobile phone operator, what next?
As long as China's 12% annual GDP growth rate keeps going, there are lots of goals that China can achieve:
-the largest number of Internet/DSL/Cable users
-the longest highway,railway and metro
-the largest airports
-most skyscrapers
-most automobiles

-the largest number of Internet/DSL/Cable users
-the longest highway,railway and metro
-the largest airports
-most skyscrapers
-most automobiles

1 - The largest number of Internet users is irrelevent because that's not a fair statistic. OF COURSE that China will be #1, 1 human being out of 6 lives in China. The REAL STATISTIC would be the % of population that HAS ACCESS to INTERNET. In this one, China would still suck, far behind West's nations for half a century, at the very least.

2 - The largest airport? Don't think so. Not even by number of passengers (USA), and not even by size (Dubai).

3 - Most skyscrapers. Well, like someone said in another thread, commies aren't hard to build...

4 - Most automobiles... again, same as #1. IRRELEVENT. Look for % of Chinese ppl that HAS a car, or the ratio of car/inhab.

1 - The largest number of Internet users is irrelevent because that's not a fair statistic. OF COURSE that China will be #1, 1 human being out of 6 lives in China. The REAL STATISTIC would be the % of population that HAS ACCESS to INTERNET. In this one, China would still suck, far behind West's nations for half a century, at the very least.



What is the % of population that HAS ACCESS to INTERNET in West nations half a century ago (in 1956)?

CHINAInternet far behind USA FOR 5 YEARS!!(NOT ONLY THE number )
2number of passengers (MUST CHINA)size (OF COUSE IN CHINA)

3CHINA TODAY WAS THE Most skyscrapers

2004年，民航行业完成运输总周转量230亿吨公里、旅客运输量1.2亿人、货邮运输量273万吨、通用航空作业7.7万小时。截止2004年底，我国定期航班航线达到1200条，其中国内航线（包括香港、澳门航线） 975条，国际航线225条，境内民航定期航班通航机场133个(不含香港、澳门)，形成了以北京、上海、广州机场为中心，以省会、旅游城市机场为枢纽，其它城市机场为支干，联结国内127个城市，联结38个国 家80个城市的航空运输网络。民航机队规模不断扩大，截止至2004年底，中国民航拥有运输飞机754架，其中大中型飞机680架，均为世界上最先进的飞机。2004年中国民航运输总周转量达到230亿吨公里（不包 括香港、澳门特别行政区以及台湾省），在国际民航组织188个缔约国中名列第3位。

shadyunltd you are SB!!
Global Top 500
Updated Daily

1. Yahoo!
www.yahoo.com - Site info


2. Microsoft Network (MSN)
www.msn.com - Site info


3. Google
www.google.com - Site info


4. Baidu.com --------------------------------------CHINA
www.baidu.com - Site info


5. 腾讯网(http://www.qq.com) -------------------------CHINA
www.qq.com - Site info


6. Myspace
www.myspace.com - Site info


7. 新浪新闻中心 -------------------------------CHINA
www.sina.com.cn - Site info


8. Yahoo!カテゴリ
www.yahoo.co.jp - Site info


9. 网易 ---------------------------------------------CHINA
www.163.com - Site info


10. EBay
www.ebay.com - Site info

11. 搜狐 ----------------------------------------------------------CHINA
资源导航为主要业务的门户网站，经营综合性业务，社区，无线等增值服务。
www.sohu.com - Site info


12 雅虎中国 ----------------------------------------------CHINA
网页、MP3、新闻方面内容的搜索引擎。
www.yahoo.com.cn - Site info

What is the % of population that HAS ACCESS to INTERNET in West nations half a century ago (in 1956)?

I don't understand your point here, sorry.

Hzkiller? What are you trying to show me? Did you read my post?

I don't understand your point here, sorry.

Hzkiller? What are you trying to show me? Did you read my post?

You don't understand me? You said "The REAL STATISTIC would be the % of population that HAS ACCESS to INTERNET. In this one, China would still suck, far behind West's nations for half a century, at the very least.". So I guess there is at least about 10% internet connections in western countries half a century ago. Is that your message that you want to convey to us?

1 - The largest number of Internet users is irrelevent because that's not a fair statistic. OF COURSE that China will be #1, 1 human being out of 6 lives in China. The REAL STATISTIC would be the % of population that HAS ACCESS to INTERNET. In this one, China would still suck, far behind West's nations for half a century, at the very least.
I don't care about %, the number makes more sense.

2 - The largest airport? Don't think so. Not even by number of passengers (USA), and not even by size (Dubai).
The new Beijing airport will be the world's largest airport.
Please check it out in Google.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=beijing+airport+world%27s+largest
In face, the 2nd stage of Guangzhou and Shanghai airports are also u/c

3 - Most skyscrapers. Well, like someone said in another thread, commies aren't hard to build...
Well, it still sounds like a gold

4 - Most automobiles... again, same as #1. IRRELEVENT. Look for % of Chinese ppl that HAS a car, or the ratio of car/inhab.
Well, maybe we can compare the % of ppl in China's cities.

6 out of the global top 12 websites are in China.
Actually, on China's websites I saw that some threads about the imporant news or events, like shenzhou 7 spacecraft, have more than 10 million comments and replies, incrediable :runaway:

shadyunltd you are SB!!
Global Top 500
Updated Daily

1. Yahoo!
www.yahoo.com - Site info


2. Microsoft Network (MSN)
www.msn.com - Site info


3. Google
www.google.com - Site info


4. Baidu.com --------------------------------------CHINA
www.baidu.com - Site info


5. 腾讯网(http://www.qq.com) -------------------------CHINA
www.qq.com - Site info


6. Myspace
www.myspace.com - Site info


7. 新浪新闻中心 -------------------------------CHINA
www.sina.com.cn - Site info


8. Yahoo!カテゴリ
www.yahoo.co.jp - Site info


9. 网易 ---------------------------------------------CHINA
www.163.com - Site info


10. EBay
www.ebay.com - Site info

11. 搜狐 ----------------------------------------------------------CHINA
资源导航为主要业务的门户网站，经营综合性业务，社区，无线等增值服务。
www.sohu.com - Site info


12 雅虎中国 ----------------------------------------------CHINA
网页、MP3、新闻方面内容的搜索引擎。
www.yahoo.com.cn - Site info

I don't care about %, the number makes more sense.

Huh? Why wouldn't you? That's way more important than just the number...

Huh? Why wouldn't you? That's way more important than just the number...

Thank you for using a little bit of logic.

1 - About Beijing Airport, I only found one link, old (2004) and not really credible. Even on Wikipedia, they only say : Terminal 3 (of BA) [...] would become arguably the largest single airport terminal building with 900,000 sq. meters in total floor area.

That's not airport.

2 - If you don't care about %, then China would probably be the country with the most deaths, the most smokers, the most cases of suicides, the most infant mortality (not by %, but by absolute number), the most murders, the most person that are illiterate, etc. I could go on and on and on.

You don't make sense.

^ You hate China or you hate people from Montreal?

then China would probably be the country with the most deaths.the most cases of suicides, the most infant mortality (not by %, but by absolute number), the most murders, the most person that are illiterate





none of them from china, you are really out of this century...
you'd better Hide in your village for a life...

When it comes to absolute growth, plain old numbers are important. How strong your economy is relative to another at face value is all dependent upon how many people in China are connected to the internet, not the percent. Doesn't matter the percent, if 1 million people have internet access in China and .5 million in Finland, well, Finland can be considered the more advanced country because a higher percent has such anemities, but the Chinese providers still have greater share of the market.

By the way, I just pulled these numbers out of the air, so don't look into them.

google_abcd你最好先做调查在来说，无根据数据以及不讲逻辑的断言对主题没有任何好的影响。
辩论要以理服人，否则就别说。 你这里的发言显然是输了。还有不要动不动就争辩，这是自杯的表现，要平心静气的以理服人。

When it comes to absolute growth, plain old numbers are important. How strong your economy is relative to another at face value is all dependent upon how many people in China are connected to the internet, not the percent. Doesn't matter the percent, if 1 million people have internet access in China and .5 million in Finland, well, Finland can be considered the more advanced country because a higher percent has such anemities, but the Chinese providers still have greater share of the market.

By the way, I just pulled these numbers out of the air, so don't look into them.

Yes fine. Ofcourse looking at a percentage terms is great for looking at standard of living. The west, undeniably is far better. But this post was started by quoting that China Mobile is a far larger mobile operator than Voda, it is NOW the worlds largest. This here is the fact! Chinese companies are expanding on a global scale, Chinese companies are growing and reaching global proportions by market value. Chinese Lenovo computers for example is a brand that will stay, amongst other chinese brands that global companies are ranked with, china mobile is a prime example.

So what if in a percentage term China is low on standard of living? The rate of growth is phenomenal! record breaking! Its already overtaken the Philippines, Indonesia, Peru, Serbia, Jamaica in GDP(PPP)/per capita and these countries have been industrializing for awhile. At the rate China is growing its reminiscent of the NIC Asian Tigers of Tiawan, Singapore and Korea and so on. What took Europe and the West 200 Years of industrialization, parts of Asia have taken and will take mere decades.

So thumbs up to China!

I never argue with someone who doesn't know how to use google yet

Keyword:beijing airport world's largest
Results 1 - 30 of about 653,000 Chinese (Simplified) and Chinese (Traditional) and English pages for beijing world's largest airport . (0.41 seconds)
http://www.google.ca/search?num=30&hl=en&newwindow=1&q=beijing+airport++world%27s+largest+&btnG=Search&meta=lr%3Dlang_zh-CN%7Clang_zh-TW%7Clang_en

Thank you for using a little bit of logic.

1 - About Beijing Airport, I only found one link, old (2004) and not really credible. Even on Wikipedia, they only say : Terminal 3 (of BA) [...] would become arguably the largest single airport terminal building with 900,000 sq. meters in total floor area.

That's not airport.



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Posts: 127 google_abcd你最好先做调查在来说，无根据数据以及不讲逻辑的断言对主题没有任何好的影响。
辩论要以理服人，否则就别说。 你这里的发言显然是输了。还有不要动不动就争辩，这是自杯的表现，要平心静气的以理服人。

Hahaha!!! guys u are really funny. yes, percentage certainly is important when we examine the levels/rate of development and it implies that we should keep going on the way of development (and maybe there will never be a stop) . On the other hand, absolute numbers do matter. one number represents one ppl/family benefits from the development. As a whole, it indicates the scale of accumulation of capital, knowledge, resources, etc., which sometimes means POWER/threat (or competitive competence) when two entities (companies, countries) compete as a whole.

Whatever...

I agree that the absolute number is sometimes relevant, but when comparing to other (smaller) countries that can't compete in absolute numbers, it's logical to use percentages (as they are unbiased).




none of them from china, you are really out of this century...
you'd better Hide in your village for a life...

Financial Way, WTF are you telling me?

Firstly, there are 6.5 billions of humans. 1.3 BILLION (20%) ARE LIVING IN CHINA. That means 1 human out of 5 is living in China.

Secondly, the infant mortality rate is 23 deaths per thousand (2.3%). That means a little bit over 30 million children die each year. That's over 10% of USA's population. I doubt that a lot of country can beat this, perhaps India. Indonesia would need a huge infant mortality rate to beat this.

9.1% of the population (over 15) of the PRC is ILLITERATE. That means around 95 million CHINESE are illiterate, AROUND 30% OF USA'S POPULATION. Only India can compete with this. Indonesia would need a hell of a illiteracy rate to beat this.


I don't want to be rude, but even though GDP is really important, I think that GDP/capita is even more for the only reason that it shows how every individual is "worth". Even if EU has a slightly (arguable) GDP that the USA, its GDP/capita is significantly lower, which means the overall population of EU is poorer (although using GDP to measure poverty is quite innaccurate - more of an example).

Bottom line : % and absolute numbers are important, but you gotta be fair sometimes and them properly.

When talking about population (especially infant mortality, deaths, illiteracy, poverty rate,....), it's more relevant to be using %, even more for China, because it would probably stand last or at the bottom in some of the categories.

Whatever...

I agree that the absolute number is sometimes relevant, but when comparing to other (smaller) countries that can't compete in absolute numbers, it's logical to use percentages (as they are unbiased).




Financial Way, WTF are you telling me?

Firstly, there are 6.5 billions of humans. 1.3 BILLION (20%) ARE LIVING IN CHINA. That means 1 human out of 5 is living in China.

Secondly, the infant mortality rate is 23 deaths per thousand (2.3%). That means a little bit over 30 million children die each year. That's over 10% of USA's population. I doubt that a lot of country can beat this, perhaps India. Indonesia would need a huge infant mortality rate to beat this.

9.1% of the population (over 15) of the PRC is ILLITERATE. That means around 95 million CHINESE are illiterate, AROUND 30% OF USA'S POPULATION. Only India can compete with this. Indonesia would need a hell of a illiteracy rate to beat this.


I don't want to be rude, but even though GDP is really important, I think that GDP/capita is even more for the only reason that it shows how every individual is "worth". Even if EU has a slightly (arguable) GDP that the USA, its GDP/capita is significantly lower, which means the overall population of EU is poorer (although using GDP to measure poverty is quite innaccurate - more of an example).

Bottom line : % and absolute numbers are important, but you gotta be fair sometimes and them properly.

When talking about population (especially infant mortality, deaths, illiteracy, poverty rate,....), it's more relevant to be using %, even more for China, because it would probably stand last or at the bottom in some of the categories.

What can I say about you? You have no logic at all, also you need to review your elementary mathematics.

The infant mortality rate is for number of deaths per thousand births. China's total births is not more than 20 million per year. How can there be 30 million Children deaths per year? Pighead, please answer me!!!!

Whatever...

I agree that the absolute number is sometimes relevant, but when comparing to other (smaller) countries that can't compete in absolute numbers, it's logical to use percentages (as they are unbiased).




Financial Way, WTF are you telling me?

Firstly, there are 6.5 billions of humans. 1.3 BILLION (20%) ARE LIVING IN CHINA. That means 1 human out of 5 is living in China.

Secondly, the infant mortality rate is 23 deaths per thousand (2.3%). That means a little bit over 30 million children die each year. That's over 10% of USA's population. I doubt that a lot of country can beat this, perhaps India. Indonesia would need a huge infant mortality rate to beat this.

9.1% of the population (over 15) of the PRC is ILLITERATE. That means around 95 million CHINESE are illiterate, AROUND 30% OF USA'S POPULATION. Only India can compete with this. Indonesia would need a hell of a illiteracy rate to beat this.


I don't want to be rude, but even though GDP is really important, I think that GDP/capita is even more for the only reason that it shows how every individual is "worth". Even if EU has a slightly (arguable) GDP that the USA, its GDP/capita is significantly lower, which means the overall population of EU is poorer (although using GDP to measure poverty is quite innaccurate - more of an example).

Bottom line : % and absolute numbers are important, but you gotta be fair sometimes and them properly.

When talking about population (especially infant mortality, deaths, illiteracy, poverty rate,....), it's more relevant to be using %, even more for China, because it would probably stand last or at the bottom in some of the categories.

We are talking about Chinese mobile. What do you have bring unrelated topic to it? Also from the tone of your message, you came here looking for a fight!
The original thread is not stating that China already reached 1st world class standard of living, but that China is growing at very fast rate and the scale of the growth in absolute number has not precedent so far.

Are U trolling? Did a Chinese beat the crap out of you when you were a kid? Are you sick?

Whatever...

I agree that the absolute number is sometimes relevant, but when comparing to other (smaller) countries that can't compete in absolute numbers, it's logical to use percentages (as they are unbiased).




Financial Way, WTF are you telling me?

Firstly, there are 6.5 billions of humans. 1.3 BILLION (20%) ARE LIVING IN CHINA. That means 1 human out of 5 is living in China.

Secondly, the infant mortality rate is 23 deaths per thousand (2.3%). That means a little bit over 30 million children die each year. That's over 10% of USA's population. I doubt that a lot of country can beat this, perhaps India. Indonesia would need a huge infant mortality rate to beat this.

9.1% of the population (over 15) of the PRC is ILLITERATE. That means around 95 million CHINESE are illiterate, AROUND 30% OF USA'S POPULATION. Only India can compete with this. Indonesia would need a hell of a illiteracy rate to beat this.


I don't want to be rude, but even though GDP is really important, I think that GDP/capita is even more for the only reason that it shows how every individual is "worth". Even if EU has a slightly (arguable) GDP that the USA, its GDP/capita is significantly lower, which means the overall population of EU is poorer (although using GDP to measure poverty is quite innaccurate - more of an example).

Bottom line : % and absolute numbers are important, but you gotta be fair sometimes and them properly.

When talking about population (especially infant mortality, deaths, illiteracy, poverty rate,....), it's more relevant to be using %, even more for China, because it would probably stand last or at the bottom in some of the categories.

u r absolutely a loser :weirdo:

Secondly, the infant mortality rate is 23 deaths per thousand (2.3%). That means a little bit over 30 million children die each year.

All 1.3 BILLION Chinese are children? :rofl:

the infant mortality rate is 24.18/1000人 （2005年统计）
平均寿命： 72.27岁
男性： 70.65岁
女性： 74.09 岁 （2005年统计）

识字率： 定义为15周岁以上（15岁以下占中国人口22%）的人可以读写，其中

总人口：90.9%
男性：95.1%
女性：86.5%（2002年统计）

Whatever...

I agree that the absolute number is sometimes relevant, but when comparing to other (smaller) countries that can't compete in absolute numbers, it's logical to use percentages (as they are unbiased).




Financial Way, WTF are you telling me?

Firstly, there are 6.5 billions of humans. 1.3 BILLION (20%) ARE LIVING IN CHINA. That means 1 human out of 5 is living in China.

Secondly, the infant mortality rate is 23 deaths per thousand (2.3%). That means a little bit over 30 million children die each year. That's over 10% of USA's population. I doubt that a lot of country can beat this, perhaps India. Indonesia would need a huge infant mortality rate to beat this.

9.1% of the population (over 15) of the PRC is ILLITERATE. That means around 95 million CHINESE are illiterate, AROUND 30% OF USA'S POPULATION. Only India can compete with this. Indonesia would need a hell of a illiteracy rate to beat this.


I don't want to be rude, but even though GDP is really important, I think that GDP/capita is even more for the only reason that it shows how every individual is "worth". Even if EU has a slightly (arguable) GDP that the USA, its GDP/capita is significantly lower, which means the overall population of EU is poorer (although using GDP to measure poverty is quite innaccurate - more of an example).

Bottom line : % and absolute numbers are important, but you gotta be fair sometimes and them properly.

When talking about population (especially infant mortality, deaths, illiteracy, poverty rate,....), it's more relevant to be using %, even more for China, because it would probably stand last or at the bottom in some of the categories.
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dont get yourself into trouble

At least people in China can buy cool phones and use them. This is not a happy time for American PDA Phone users.

Sprint and Verizon are both Nazis. Neither one supports R-UIM cards (the CDMA equivalent of SIM cards). Sprint won't allow the use of any phone not purchased from them, eliminating entire swaths of cool Asian CDMA 1xRTT PalmOS & Linux-based phones (About a year ago, I wanted a Qool QDA700 in the worst way. All of Sprint's current Palm phones utterly suck... slippery plastic that should be a criminal offense to use on a cell phone, awful thumb boards instead of Graffiti, and the cancellation of the Samsung i550 -- aka i539 in China). Verizon is unofficially indifferent, but nobody has ever gotten EVDO to work with a foreign phone... not even one from Sprint's Canadian division, Telus. And Verizon's Internet TOS are so screwed you'd have to be insane to sign a 2-year contract with them (pretty much anything besides websurfing can officially get you terminated, including Remote Desktop, VNC, IPsec, and even NNTP).

T-Mobile allows foreign phones and uses GSM, but uses a different standard for high-speed data than anywhere else in the world, so imported phones are stuck with 19.2k internet (my roommate was furious when he found out that his $599 imported JasJar can only use slow GPRS data). Cingular uses UMTS, but uses 850MHz for everything (in the ten or eleven cities where UMTS even exists, that is), once again leaving customers stranded with yet another phone configuration that exists only in the US (but worse, because Cingular customers can't even use 1900MHz phones in most places).

It's just fundamentally wrong. American CDMA phones (mostly) work fine in China, because Chinese networks could care less whose name is printed on the phone. If you've got the MSL code, a credit card, and a phone that's physically capable of working on their network, they're more than happy to activate it. It's just messed-up American companies, determined to cripple any phone feature that might interfere with their "value-added fees" (like Verizon and Sprint's endless efforts to cripple/disable Bluetooth DUN and built-in WiFi capabilities... Verizon going to the extreme of configuring its Treos out of the box so they can't receive incoming calls when connected to a WiFi network).

Sigh... the phone I'd be using right now if Sprint weren't hardware nazis:
http://www.pocketfactory.com/images/stories/Qool_QDA-700_3_L.jpg

Whatever...

I agree that the absolute number is sometimes relevant, but when comparing to other (smaller) countries that can't compete in absolute numbers, it's logical to use percentages (as they are unbiased).




Financial Way, WTF are you telling me?

Firstly, there are 6.5 billions of humans. 1.3 BILLION (20%) ARE LIVING IN CHINA. That means 1 human out of 5 is living in China.

Secondly, the infant mortality rate is 23 deaths per thousand (2.3%). That means a little bit over 30 million children die each year. That's over 10% of USA's population. I doubt that a lot of country can beat this, perhaps India. Indonesia would need a huge infant mortality rate to beat this.

9.1% of the population (over 15) of the PRC is ILLITERATE. That means around 95 million CHINESE are illiterate, AROUND 30% OF USA'S POPULATION. Only India can compete with this. Indonesia would need a hell of a illiteracy rate to beat this.


I don't want to be rude, but even though GDP is really important, I think that GDP/capita is even more for the only reason that it shows how every individual is "worth". Even if EU has a slightly (arguable) GDP that the USA, its GDP/capita is significantly lower, which means the overall population of EU is poorer (although using GDP to measure poverty is quite innaccurate - more of an example).

Bottom line : % and absolute numbers are important, but you gotta be fair sometimes and them properly.

When talking about population (especially infant mortality, deaths, illiteracy, poverty rate,....), it's more relevant to be using %, even more for China, because it would probably stand last or at the bottom in some of the categories.


There are plenties of countries that beat the shit out of US in terms of gdp per capita. But are they better than US in any way?

So has China Mobile replaced Vodafone as the world's top mobile-phone services provier in terms of...(what)? :?

Firstly, there are 6.5 billions of humans. 1.3 BILLION (20%) ARE LIVING IN CHINA. That means 1 human out of 5 is living in China.

This is the only thing that makes sense in your post.


Secondly, the infant mortality rate is 23 deaths per thousand (2.3%). That means a little bit over 30 million children die each year. That's over 10% of USA's population. I doubt that a lot of country can beat this, perhaps India. Indonesia would need a huge infant mortality rate to beat this.

This would be true if the 1.3 billion Chinese were all infants, the 2006 estimate of PRC birthrate is 13.25 births per 1000 people, so the actually number of infant mortality is: 2.3% * 1.3 billion * 13.25/1000 = 0.396 million. You see how stupid you are now?


9.1% of the population (over 15) of the PRC is ILLITERATE. That means around 95 million CHINESE are illiterate, AROUND 30% OF USA'S POPULATION. Only India can compete with this. Indonesia would need a hell of a illiteracy rate to beat this.


Again, this would be true if every single one of the 1.3 billion Chinese was over 15. according to the 2006 estimate of PRC demographics, 79.1% of the Chinese population are over 15 years, so the total number of illterate Chinese is:
79.1% * 1.3 billion * 9.1% = 93 million, it is a lot of people, but consider the entire size of the country and the number of years of complusory education, it's not that surprising.

i am sure that guy knows some words, based on what we count from his comments, should be more than 200+ (my 5 years old son level :-). so congrats, he might be able to qualify as "literate" when he grows to 15 (comparably). :-)

But, his math fails unfortunately. the multiplation is about Grade 3 level. Did he claim he really has graduted from elementary school?

sorry, i forget to mention. i refer "that guy" in my previous post to shadyunltd :-)