Here are photos of some of my favorite smaller cities, I found on the web, that seems "quiet" (you never hear anything about them) that I think have nice skylines and downtowns for its size...


City of Tyler (Texas)
Pop. 87,687
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/cfx68/Temp/tyler.jpg

City of Evansville (Indiana)
Pop. 110,708
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/cfx68/Temp/evansville.jpg

City of Spartanburg (South Carolina)
Pop. 39,673
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/cfx68/Temp/spartanburg.jpg

City of Saganaw (Michigan)
Pop. 59,235
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/cfx68/Temp/Saginaw.jpg

City of Peoria (Illinois)
Pop. 112,936
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/cfx68/Temp/peoria.jpg

City of Rochester (Minnesota)
Pop. 92,507
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/cfx68/Temp/rochester.jpg

City of Cedar Rapids (Iowa)
Pop. 122,542
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/cfx68/Temp/cedarrapids.jpg

City of Canton (Ohio)
Pop. 79,255
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/cfx68/Temp/canton.jpg

City of Covington (Kentucky)
Pop. 42,687
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/cfx68/Temp/covington.jpg

City of Lake Charles (Louisiana)
Pop. 70,735
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/cfx68/Temp/lakecharles.jpg


*Population Source: US Census Bureau

My city of Wilmington gets overlooked by everyone because we're a stone's throw from Philly.

Our skyline (city population of around 72,000; metro population of around 635,000):

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/4256/dscf4885rj4.jpg

Wilmington might actually be a little too big for what you're looking for.



That Rochester, MN picture is good. That might be the most impressive of the skylines from that group in my opinion.

Some more that seem similar to what you're looking for:

Asheville, NC (72,231)
http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/8357/asheville2lu6.jpg

Billing, MT (98,721)
http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/2002/billings1ll5.jpg

Binghamton, NY (45,492)
http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/7866/binghamton1ao6.jpg

Juneau, AK (30,987)
http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/7850/juneau3pt5.jpg

Portland, ME (63,889)
http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/7576/portlandme4iq9.jpg

Savannah, GA (128,453)
http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/3568/savannah3ye6.jpg

Youngstown, OH (82,837)
http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/4456/youngstown1ke5.jpg

wow, I really like it, something quiet for my taste but still very :runaway: to know!
I think this should move to cityscape and skyline forum!
Love to see more, maybe I will put some from Illinois later! :)

BTW, Peoria, IL possibily is the best skyline outside Chicagoland in state of Illinois! :cheers:

Outside "Chicagoland", yes peoria is the best in Illinois. But I would still rate Evanston and Oakbrook as the 2 and 3 skylines in Illinois behind downtown Chicago.

Wow cloudrays68, did you take that picture of Spartanburg? Where from? I tried to get the Marriott in the pano I took, but that was kinda hard to do from my vantage point.

http://www.MyOnlineImages.com/Members/antical79/images/panorama.jpg


I would also add

Roanoke VA (92,631)

http://www.hollins.edu/admissions/ugradadm/international/images/Roanoke.jpg

http://www.consultwebs.com/ncphotos/images/roanoke/cityscape_roanoke_sm_600.jpg


Macon GA (94,316)

http://www.ni-po.ne.jp/~nobu/MaconOutline/downtown.jpg

http://www.emporis.com/files/transfer/sixwm/2004/07/283461.jpg

Thanks everyone for your response! :okay:
xzmattzx, those are great additions to this thread.
Wilmington is awsome! (low-key, quiet, discrete, etc.) That city is THE perfect example of what I meant! Binghamton and Rochester (MN) is too.

I would love to see Oakbrook. I never seen their skyline.

Wow cloudrays68, did you take that picture of Spartanburg? Where from?

I searched for that on the web. I was surprised!

I would like to see that same Binghamton picture in the fall.

The Billings picture is awesome too, because of the scenery.

Nice skylines

awesome pictures, keep em' coming

Portland, ME, has some impressive density. I'd love to see some street-level shots of its downtown area.

Yeah, portland is my favorite of those pictured. Juneau is nice too

I like the shot of Binghamton...I really like that city.

Juneau wins!! Alaska is just the best state ever!

Juneau wins!! Alaska is just the best state ever!

In terms of natural beauty, I can't think of a state that tops Alaska.

Fayetteville, Arkansas
population: 66,655

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/Duckwings/img0154s1cu.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/Duckwings/img56386qr.jpg

I'm just patiently waiting for Bartlesville, Oklahoma to be posted. I know it will in any minute.

I really like Juneau and Portland, ME, very impressive small cities!!
Fayetteville looks great too, and I know a really hot person who lives there :D

Galveston
pop. 60,000

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/8418/xhgpp9.jpg

Beaumont,TX
pop. 113,866

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/2531/wecvy9.jpg

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/8084/crockettst393fx8.jpg

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/167/beaumont385ze7.jpg

Nice small skylines.

I wanna see Erie PA and Albany NY

I'm just patiently waiting for Bartlesville, Oklahoma to be posted. I know it will in any minute.

I've always been very impressed with Bartlesville's skyline. That city is in the middle of nowhere, far away from any Interstate, and has no real metro area, yet has a nice skyline. Phillips 66 must pump a lot of money into that area.

Bartlesville (34,734) (county population: 49,149)
http://www.mcanawrealtors.com/uploads/53.jpg

Frankfort, Kentucky
Population: 27,741
Square miles: 14.73
Population per square mile: 1,883.24


http://geneburch.com/gallery/d/1773-5/09---Downtown-in-Fog.jpg

http://geneburch.com/gallery/d/794-2/2002_Calendar07.jpg

Thats sweet, its not even Buffalo yet they have Buffalo in their skyline shot...what bullshit.

Outside "Chicagoland", yes peoria is the best in Illinois. But I would still rate Evanston and Oakbrook as the 2 and 3 skylines in Illinois behind downtown Chicago.

Well, I would say Evanston,IL definitely has better skyline then Peoria that is why I said outside "chicagoland"! Anyway, another one from Evanston please show us your majestic skyline outside of Chicago please!:)

BTW, here is Oakbrook,IL skyline from air in 1996 so don't take it so serious cause it has somewhat better skyline now!
http://tigger.uic.edu/depts/ahaa/imagebase/maclean/aerials1/74.JPEG

Well, I also like to show my hometown Naperville,IL skyline during 1996 which is mostly laying out along I-88 and its skyline has change ALOT during 2000, so don't get foot by these empy land just yet! :cheers:
http://tigger.uic.edu/depts/ahaa/imagebase/maclean/aerials1/25.JPEG
http://tigger.uic.edu/depts/ahaa/imagebase/maclean/aerials1/60.JPEG

Oh, Schaumburg,IL also have nice skyline too!
http://tigger.uic.edu/depts/ahaa/imagebase/maclean/aerials1/78.JPEG

Itasca,IL skyline not bad looking little cluster!
http://tigger.uic.edu/depts/ahaa/imagebase/maclean/aerials1/79.JPEG

Aurora,IL skyline!
http://tigger.uic.edu/depts/ahaa/imagebase/maclean/aerials5/023.JPEG
All these were taken in 1996!

I've always been very impressed with Bartlesville's skyline. That city is in the middle of nowhere, far away from any Interstate, and has no real metro area, yet has a nice skyline. Phillips 66 must pump a lot of money into that area.

Bartlesville (34,734) (county population: 49,149)
http://www.mcanawrealtors.com/uploads/53.jpg
Looks like the US answer to Yellowknife...

Here are some Portland, Maine pics from the web...these are NOT mine!

http://images.encarta.msn.com/xrefmedia/sharemed/targets/images/pho/t041/T041074A.jpg

Old Port

http://www.victorianterrace.com/images/downtown.jpg http://www.goodspeedupdate.com/wp/ppp-old-port.JPG http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/Globe_Photo/2005/12/09/1134145542_8726.jpg http://www.rtoddking.com/images/maine2004/04080338.jpg http://images.dpchallenge.com/images_challenge/21/2736.jpg http://www.hoffmanphotography.com/galleryLandscapes/images/oldPort4.jpg

Wintah
http://hobbitwerk.brinkster.net/images/portme/portme5.jpg

Congress Street is the traditional main street of Portland, although a lot of commerce is done more toward the Old Port these days
http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/Third_Party_Photo/2005/09/06/1126041714_0951-1.jpg http://www.goodspeedupdate.com/wp/ppp-monument-sq.JPG

City Hall
http://www.usm.maine.edu/~lsavage/UrbanGeographyProjects/Streetscapes%20Web/buildings_files/IMAGE004.GIF

I see your quaint New England town, and raise you another one.

Manchester, NH (pop 107,006)

http://www.hatfieldart.com/WEBSITE_PHOTOS/HG001_CITYHALL_PLAZA_WEB.GIF

http://www.segwayfest.com/images/manchester_skyline.jpg
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http://k47.pbase.com/u2/abh/upload/466939.pano345MoreCurves33.jpg

All photos borrowed from the internet

Fantastic thread! Portland is a very refreshing surprise! I love going on road trips to new areas, and stumbling across these smaller cities with over-achieving skylines.

wow thos Portland Maine pics are very nice! Reminded me alot like parts of Boston

This thread is awesome. Portland, Maine is the best city in my opinion. I stayed in a hotel there back in 2003.

There was a very bad fire in Portland in the 1800s, I believe; which is why there's so much brick there today.
The Old Port section wasn't much to look at in the early 1980s, but slowly places began opening up (restaurants and things like that) and now it's a major tourist area---they have a problem with some rowdy behavior at closing time, although, I suppose that's much, much better than having a dead downtown where there's no rowdy behavior because there's no one to get rowdy in the first place. :)

The city's downtown section is on a peninsula- off the south side is the wide Fore River which is emptying into Casco Bay and is very deep- huge Oil tankers come through there. Off the north side is Back Cove, which is fairly small. On either end of the peninsula are neighborhoods known as the Eastern Prom and Western Prom (short for promenade). They're sort of high up in relation to the water below.
Here's a pic from the air looking at the Eastern Prom. You can see the downtown core behind the neighborhood. The picture was taken above Casco Bay...the Fore river/Harbor is on the left, Back Cove is on the right.

http://www.eaarts.com/CityPortland/EasternProm12x36.jpg

Longfellow Square, in honor of Portland native poet Henry Wadsworth Longfellow

http://www.anderkoo.com/uploads/233/488/a2005-10-02.jpg

^ Thanks for posting those 2 pics.

I could get drunk in Portland...and thats sayin alot!!! :scouserd:

Looks like the US answer to Yellowknife...


What's wrong with Yellowknife? Nice little Canadian city!

http://members.tripod.com/~higharc/YellowPortNLights/5highrisesinyellowknifec.jpg

http://images.43things.com/place/00/01/fc/130103lr.jpg

http://www.stats.gov.nt.ca/Infrastructure/Pics/YK.JPG

What's wrong with Yellowknife? Nice little Canadian city!


I think he's referring to it as a very small town in the middle of nowhere with an impressive skyline for such a small place, like Bartlesville. It should be taken as a compliment.

OK my bad. I happen to love the small cities posted so far. I might have to dig up some more.

Distan pano of Schaumburg, Illinois skyline.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c389/Hecago/108674.jpg

La Crosse.
http://lacrossewisconsin.com/images/IslandGirl_Radisson.jpg

Appleton
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g96/JayMack2k4/0065F002b.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g96/JayMack2k4/Appleton27s20Skyline2020040.jpg
http://groups.msn.com/isapi/fetch.dll?action=MyPhotos_GetPubPhoto&PhotoID=nIwAAAKkKSpZ1FmNKN4QijWzA1ic7BQdXnTRV0ZuVrxH8kYgHPRVqARqDDlv7sraFcto6y2DVSUc


Racine
http://www.downtownracine.com/images/marina.jpg
designed by frank lloyd wright in racine, the johnson wax tower
http://www.peterbeers.net/interests/flw_rt/Wisconsin/johnson_wax/JohnsonWax_Research_Tower.JPG

neenah, wisconsin..population 24k
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g96/JayMack2k4/cfiles71.jpg

nice small town american skylines(Y)

Springfield Illinois (112,000). Couldn't find any good pictures of the overall skyline. I believe the State Capitol (405 feet) and Hilton Hotel (352 feet) are the tallest builtings in Illinois outside of the Chicago area.

http://www.gscc.org/Marketplace/Marketplacefiles/downtown.jpg

http://www.painetworks.com/photos/ib/ib0861.JPG

ChicagoSkyline: Those aerials are incredible! I always wondered if Schaumburg had a skyline, and you answered my question. NICE!! I never heard of Itasca, thats a nice one too! Thanks for sharing those extremely rare views of those areas.

WOW!!! :shocked: Y'all made this thread take off like a supersonic jet!
Thanks for all the great photos of these rare-to-see places!
Keep diggin' them up! LOL I'll keep diggin myself! :)

Man, I am really enjoying this thread.

Another city I've lived near: El Paso!

http://www.ttuhsc.edu/elpaso/SOM/Neuropsychiatry/img/DSCN1233.JPG

Actually I'm a bit dissaponted with EL Paso. What is the population 600 000+? Can't tell from the pick but it isn't very impressive.

Here is Bellevue, WA (112,000).

Courtesy USAPatriot for this excellent photo.
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/4541/ajmbellevueparksky1rh7.jpg
Currently, Bellevue is in a building boom right now. In the center of the picture, you will expect these two twin towers as tall as the Westin hotel on the left to rise by 2008. Here is a picture:
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/3097/bellevuetowers2qi.jpg
Left of the hotel, out of the frame is an office tower currently under construction (the Westin being in the back right):
http://www.ssaacoustics.com/lincoln_square_1.jpg

http://www.equinox3d.com/flying/IMG_0839.JPG
Here's Redwood Shores, a neighborhood of Redwood City, on the San Francisco Peninsula, with Oracle headquarters in the background.

So I guess we're including suburban skylines now?

Okay, it's not 'quiet' but it IS small...

Atlantic City, New Jersey:

http://www.atlantic-city-casino.com/atlantic-city-casinos-hotels-2.jpg

You could put the Naples/Marco Island Florida area on there too. The metro population for the area is under 300,000 yet it has 126 highrises, mostly in rows of condo towers:

http://www.airphotona.com/database/stock/images/06152.jpg

http://naples.condocompany.com/Marco-Island/Belize-Cape-Marco/images/Belize-aerial.jpg

http://dfrealty.com/webphotos/fullsize/aerial.jpg

http://www.owenresidential.com/images/PS_Enclave_Aerial_detail.jpg

http://www.roorda.com/images/photos/76PSL_434_View.jpg

http://www.roorda.com/images/photos/76PSL_434_Aerial.jpg

I like seems European

What's wrong with Yellowknife? Nice little Canadian city!
I think he's referring to it as a very small town in the middle of nowhere with an impressive skyline for such a small place, like Bartlesville. It should be taken as a compliment.
Yup. that's exactly what I meant. While Bartlesville seems to be a bit better in terms of height and density (in that picture anyways), it also has about twice the population.

Simply put, both are cities you'll never find just looking at a map. Yellowknife maybe by virtue of being a capital and the only major populated place for probably hundreds of miles. but both well off the "beaten path".

So I guess we're including suburban skylines now?

yes, for as long as the suburban city is under 500,000 in population!:)

Hamilton (Ohio) - A nice "hidden jewel" just north of Cincinnati, in Butler County

Pop. 60,763
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/cfx68/Temp/hamilton02.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/cfx68/Temp/hamilton01.jpg

Battle Creek (Michigan)
Pop. 53,827

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/cfx68/Temp/battlecreek01.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/cfx68/Temp/battlecreek02.jpg

^ Those Battle Creek pictures are great. I didn't know they had a skyline.

^^You'd be surprised at how many cities over 50,000 have skylines.

^^You'd be surprised at how many cities over 50,000 have skylines.

NaptownBoy, So true!

I took a vacation to Sarasota a few years ago. I had never been there before. I was pleasantly surprised to see this skyline when I got there...


Sarasota (Florida)
Pop. 53,259

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/cfx68/Temp/sarasotapano.jpg

Huntsville, Alabama

http://www.polarissensor.com/pic02-2.jpg

http://www.huntsvillealabamausa.com/pics/h_home.jpg

http://community.iexplore.com/photos/journal_photos/TKPQ_016.JPG

http://www.sellersphoto.com/images/pagemaster/sm_IMG_1842.jpg

That Rochester, MN picture is good. That might be the most impressive of the skylines from that group in my opinion.



Yeah, I always thought Rochester, Minnesota was really unusual for such a small city (less than 90,000). And it's not even a suburb of anyplace else. It has 8 buildings over 200 feet tall and two that are over 300 feet. And it's certainly a "quiet" city! I've heard it has strict noise ordinances because of the Mayo Clinic.

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/5919/rochestermn02rl2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/8945/rochestermn03rr2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I will add my teeny tiny hometown: Wausau, WI population ~39K
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v480/choyak/DSCN1106.jpg

not to forget wausau's new 241 ft high rise

whoa..wait up...damn the last time I was in Naples...a good 12 years ago..there seemed to be no high rises..damn

Midland, Texas www.stanns.us/midland.htm

As of the 2006 U.S. Census estimate, the city had a total population of 100,346. The Midland–Odessa metropolitan area, however, had a population of 246,710.

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/9717/skylineee1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midland,_Texas

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/4431/midlandpanoramaqt4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Waco, Texas http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco%2C_Texas

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/5966/wacocityyi6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Lincoln, NE http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln,_Nebraska

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/1015/lincolnneskylineem2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Johnstown, PA www.city-data.com/picfilesv/picv2171.php

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/6096/vfiles2171we3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Fort Wayne, indiana www.visitfortwayne.com/fwprofile_relocation.html

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/2268/skyline20horizontaltu2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

South Bend, Indiana www.angelfire.com/nd2/ndfan/

http://img416.imageshack.us/img416/8152/sbcitycv8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Sioux City

http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/54/sssbackfwn8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Thats actually impressive ^^^^^^

Johnstown, Rochester, MN, and Portland, ME, look pretty cool!

Those Chicago suburbs look horrible! I guess when you have endless farmland to ruin you can build surface parking for your office buildings. I like a lot of things about Chicago but jesus, how about garages? Anyway, I thought this wasn't about suburbs.

Speaking of suburbs, Bellevue is going beserk as someone showed. It's got about 12 highrises now, and another 10 underway, including three more in the 410-450' range. But it's a suburban downtown, not a "small city". Bellevue is the #2 or #3 office center for a metro of 3,700,000.

i would say some of these cities look better than the pic, no one really has high qaulity pics of smaller size cities.

This seems like an appropriate thread to put my town in.


http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/skywade80/p4.jpg


http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/skywade80/p3.jpg


http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/skywade80/p2.jpg


http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/skywade80/p1.jpg

sioux falls, sd. my hometown.
http://img480.imageshack.us/img480/4866/albumpicpo4.th.jpg (http://img480.imageshack.us/my.php?image=albumpicpo4.jpg)

Atlantic City, New Jersey
Population: 41,000

http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/b6a9b7d63b.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)

Stamford, Connecticut -- 120,000

Click to enlarge thumbnail:

http://images6.theimagehosting.com/Stamford.f35.th.jpg (http://server6.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=Stamford.f35.jpg)

I've stayed at the Westin in stamford.

Bangor, Maine

http://img470.imageshack.us/img470/4992/bangor1ud4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Wikipedia

http://img470.imageshack.us/img470/8809/bangormainedowntownqj2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Columbia, SC

www.dresslerphoto.com/colaskymoon.html
http://img330.imageshack.us/img330/6494/columbia20skyline20with20moon2ld5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

www.answers.com/topic/columbia-south-carolina
http://img330.imageshack.us/img330/1985/375pxcongareeskylineiq0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://www.pbase.com/ronsc/skyline
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/7753/56482267niteshota80filtersmallhr6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img325.imageshack.us/img325/4285/42654155colaskylinefogmornsmall1ki9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Lubbock, Texas (Everybodys at the mall!) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lubbock,_Texas

http://img325.imageshack.us/img325/6223/downtownlubbockfromi2720050910ah4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Amarillo, TX

http://img325.imageshack.us/img325/9178/skyline01uf1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

betterdaysarecoming.com/.../set4/set-4.html
http://img325.imageshack.us/img325/9323/amarillozz9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Mobile, alabama

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/3/3f/Mobile2.jpg
http://img325.imageshack.us/img325/2631/mobile2uf6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

wikipedia
http://img325.imageshack.us/img325/4175/mobileskylinesg2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/whwofford/221425360/
http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/1173/221425360d8843cfc4dkk9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Montgomery, Al

www.city-data.com/picfilesv/picv6709.php
http://img346.imageshack.us/img346/1301/vfiles6709wu2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/8643/montgomeryalskylinezg2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Mansfield (Ohio)
Pop. 50,688
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/cfx68/Temp/Mansfield.jpg


Lafayette (Indiana)
Pop. 61,229
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/cfx68/Temp/lafayette.jpg


Wilkes-Barre (Pennsylvania)
Pop. 41,630
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/cfx68/Temp/wilkes-barre.jpg


Oxnard (California)
Pop. 180,872
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/cfx68/Temp/oxnard.jpg

not to forget wausau's new 241 ft high rise
Yeah my pix was from like 2005 winter!!!
Here is the progress of the tower:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v480/choyak/Wausautower.jpg
Courtesy of Oxblue!!
We have this way on the west side of town!!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v480/choyak/DSCN1415.jpg

Hehe the flag one in the background is my avatar until the new tower is completed

Reading (Pennsylvania)
Pop. 80,305

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/cfx68/Miscellaneous/readingpa2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/cfx68/Miscellaneous/readingpa1.jpg

Reading does have a nice skyline.

I wouldn't call a lot of these cities "quiet small cities," including Huntsville, Lincoln, Columbia, and Mobile. Even if the city populations are somewhat small, the urbanized area/metro populations indicate that they are solid midsized cities. If the urbanized area population is under 150K-200K, I'd consider it a small city. Otherwise, I wouldn't.

Bridgeport (Connecticut)
Pop. 139,664
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/cfx68/Temp/bridgeport.jpg


Jackson (Michigan)
Pop. 35,152
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/cfx68/Temp/jacksonmichigan.jpg


Iowa City (Iowa)
Pop. 63,807
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/cfx68/Temp/iowacity.jpg

Duluth, MN - Pop. 86,900

http://www.city-data.com/cpicv/vfiles7802.jpg

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/4089/05883ak7.jpg

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/7166/skylinemm8.jpg

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/5676/radissonduluth003qy6.jpg

I choose Duluth, MN, Portland, ME, Sioux City, IA, and Bartlesville, OK... But all of these cities were quite surprising.

vid

Those photos of Duluth is great.
Duluth is impressive.

Duluth is impressive. One of my favourite cities in America. I'm honoured to have my city share the lake with it. :)

If you haven't been there, it's one of the ten places in America you just have to experience. The main city itself is like nothing else in the country. Definately one of the best kepts secrets of the midwest. :)

Duluth is one of the great gems of America. There are many others as well (so don't get your panties in a bunch!). But Duluth is one of the under-rated cities in the Midwest. Props to them and props to all the other great Midwestern cities of the Great Lakes like Sheboygan!

Meridian (Mississippi) Pop. 39,559
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/cfx68/Temp/meridian02.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/cfx68/Temp/meridian01.jpg


Ann Arbor (Michigan) Pop. 114,498
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/cfx68/Temp/annarbor02.jpg


Muskegon (Michigan) Pop. 39,825
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/cfx68/Temp/muskegon.jpg


Waterloo (Iowa) Pop. 67,054
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/cfx68/Temp/waterloo.jpg


Augusta (Georgia) Pop. 193,316
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/cfx68/Temp/augusta.jpg


Hammond (Indiana) Pop. 80,547
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/cfx68/Temp/hammond.jpg


Champaign (Illinois) Pop. 71,958
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/cfx68/Temp/champaign.jpg


Elmira (New York) Pop. 30,336
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/cfx68/Temp/elmira.jpg

Stamford, Connecticut
Population: 120,000

http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/0e0e61f1ef.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)

New Brunswick, NJ pop 48,573

http://pic15.picturetrail.com/VOL630/3395992/7387241/141982471.jpg

Morristown, NJ pop 18,544

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/eb/HeadquartersPlaza.jpg

Hot Springs, Arkansas
Population: 35,750

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/Duckwings/ufiles137.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/Duckwings/105_0580.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/Duckwings/vfiles11094.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/Duckwings/hotsprings-town.jpg

These are nice photos, certainly different to what we are used to seeing. Its amazing how many cities in America have skylines, even one's with populations lower than 100,000. In Australia you wont see any skylines at all for that. To see any sort of skyline with any building 3 or 4 stories, you need to have cities that have populations of 250-300,000 plus. I wish our cities in Australia had more 'heart" like they do in the USA...

Does australia have rediculous sprawl like the US does?

Here's the Crystal City (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_City%2C_Virginia) neighborhood of Arlington County, Virginia. It is adjacent to the Pentagon and the Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport, one of Arlington's Urban Villages-live, work, shop, play...no car required™
The county has 200,000 people and this is one of about three high-rise areas in the county I'm aware of.Characterized as one of many "urban villages" by Arlington County, Crystal City is almost exclusively populated by high rise apartment buildings, corporate offices, hotels, and numerous shops and restaurants. There is also an extensive network of underground shopping areas and connecting corridors beneath Crystal City.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9c/Crystal_city_satellite_image.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/Crystalcity.jpg/800px-Crystalcity.jpg

These are just from its Wikipedia entry.

These two pics not by me.
http://www.prayyakima.net/images/downtown.jpg
http://www.plu.edu/~rogersln/img/yakima-wa.jpg
Yakima, WA.
80,891. (fast growing town and new plans to redo downtown.)
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Rest pics below by me.
http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/5107/ajmeverett2ef6.jpghttp://img76.imageshack.us/img76/9272/ajmeverettskyline5ns0.jpg
Everett, WA.
100,000 (Just hit the one hundred thousand mark. Also plans of new zoning and allowing 300 foot towers into downtown.)
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http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/9445/ajmbellevueskyline2hw6.jpghttp://img115.imageshack.us/img115/5573/ajmbellevueskyline1sl5.jpg
Bellevue, WA. (Now 117,000, so it's getting bigger. Hard to not call it a suburb of Seattle, but now it's it's own city apart from Seattle. Huge condo and skyscraper boom in this city.)
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First pic in Vancouver set not by me. Other is.
http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/9739/ajmvancouverwasssym8.jpghttp://img173.imageshack.us/img173/3641/ajmvancouverwa2lw7.jpg
Vancouver, WA.
155,000 (One of the fastest growing towns in WA state. Certainly in time, new towers will emerge.)

If you want to see more of the cities I have captured from all across the northwest click this image below of a Everett, WA. building.
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/7309/ajmevfed2hj8.th.jpg (http://usaspatriot.proboards38.com/index.cgi?board=places&action=display&thread=1150520076&page=1)

Everett's and Bellevue's downtowns are part of the Seattle metro. Not separate cities. Vancouver, WA, is part of greater Portland. Yakima on the other hand is its own metro.

In this whole thread, I don't see the relevance of municipal populations. Downtowns are driven by metros, with little regard to arbitrary lines within metros.

There is no relevance of population. City or metro. It is a thread of smaller lesser known cities. Whether the above mentioned cities are part of a larger metro or not. They still have skylines. That is the point of the thread.

There is no relevance of population. City or metro. It is a thread of smaller lesser known cities. Whether the above mentioned cities are part of a larger metro or not. They still have skylines. That is the point of the thread.

Thanks. ;)

No problem, sometimes I wonder about people.

I guess I misunderstood "small cities" to be about size. My confusion was made worse by the fact that people keep listing populations.

Don't worry, I wonder about you too!

I guess Shreveport could fit
http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/5682/vfiles562953b89e0kv2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Why not Little rock Arkansas
http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/7789/lrskyline001l53d191bwy5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Tysons Corner, Va - "Downtown Fairfax County" 18,540
http://beyonddc.com/images/photos/va/tysons/skyline01-best.jpg
http://beyonddc.com/images/photos/va/tysons/central03-aerial.jpg
http://beyonddc.com/images/photos/va/tysons/galleriamall06.jpg
http://beyonddc.com/images/photos/va/tysons/firstunion04.jpg

The quintessential edge city, Tysons Corner is the largest suburban business district not just in the Washington area, but in the entire United States. Its 35 million square feet of office space (including nearby Dunn Loring) make it bigger than all but a handful of the country?s biggest downtowns. With two opulent shopping malls it's also the largest and best retail district on the East Coast after Midtown Manhattan.

None of these pics are mine they are just 'borrowed' from the internet:

Evansville Indiana:
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k40/toddguy/cityEvansvilleskyline.jpg


Wichita Falls Texas:
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k40/toddguy/citywfsSkyline2.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k40/toddguy/citywfsdowntn.jpg


Springfield Missouri:
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k40/toddguy/citysprmiss.jpg

Eugene Oregon:
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k40/toddguy/cityDowntownEugene.jpg

Kalamazoo Michigan:
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k40/toddguy/citykala.jpg

Fairbanks Alaska:
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k40/toddguy/cityfairbanks.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k40/toddguy/cityfairbanks05.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k40/toddguy/cityfairdowntown.jpg

Missoula Montana:
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k40/toddguy/cityMissoula6.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k40/toddguy/cityMissoula_Downtown_9012-0329_2-4.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k40/toddguy/citymissoula.gif

Clayton, Missouri

http://www.pbase.com/image/22038416.jpg

^^ not mine btw

Tysons Corner, Va - "Downtown Fairfax County" 18,540
http://beyonddc.com/images/photos/va/tysons/skyline01-best.jpg
http://beyonddc.com/images/photos/va/tysons/central03-aerial.jpg
http://beyonddc.com/images/photos/va/tysons/galleriamall06.jpg
http://beyonddc.com/images/photos/va/tysons/firstunion04.jpg
Tysons Corner truely is a glorified office park whose mall culture make it more of a suburb than a real city. Unlike Chevy Chase, Bethesda, Alexandria and Washington, it has virtually no walkable downtown areas, just malls.
Perhaps we need a seperate thread on suburban skylines for other cities, like Tysons, which are not the principle cities in their respective metro areas.

I love that picture of Kalamazoo above, very nice indeed!

I'm surprised my hometown of Greenville, SC was passed over! :wave: 2000 census population was at 56,000, but that has increased since. Today, Greenville County is the most populated in the state, with over 400,000 people. The city is the largest in a renoinal metro area with over 1 million people. While this is all true, Greenville is still a young and emerging city with exciting developments happening always.

BTW, George Clooney will be shooting a new film here early next year.:)

If you would like to see many more great photos of Greenville, click here (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=375823).

Skyline from Paris Mountain (Photo taken by RestedTraveler, edited by myself with his permission):

Current:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y100/Skyliner25/Skyline_ParisMtn_01c_NoAdde.jpg

With three of the planned new towers added (not the actual designs, just a reference):
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y100/Skyliner25/Skyline_ParisMtn_01c_AddedT.jpg

A few of the planned towers:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y100/Skyliner25/PeacockHotelSpa.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/UPspartan/GSA%20Index/images%20resized/PinnacleRE.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y100/Skyliner25/Camperdown.png

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y100/Skyliner25/RiverPlaceOfficeUP.jpg

Random photos from downtown:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y100/Skyliner25/DowntownNight_04.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y100/Skyliner25/DowntownNight_05.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y100/Skyliner25/Skyline_02.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y100/Skyliner25/MainStreet_13.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y100/Skyliner25/GreenvilleSkyline2-1.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y100/Skyliner25/Downtown_20.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y100/Skyliner25/NorthMain.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y100/Skyliner25/DowntownNight_02.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y100/Skyliner25/DowntownNight_01.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y100/Skyliner25/DowntownNight_03a.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y100/Skyliner25/RiverPlaceNight_01.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y100/Skyliner25/McBeeStation_01-1.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y100/Skyliner25/FallForGreenville2006_01.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y100/Skyliner25/USACycling_07b.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y100/Skyliner25/TheBookendsPhase1_01.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y100/Skyliner25/FallForGreenville2006_03.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y100/Skyliner25/MainStreet_28b.jpg

Are those fan palms?

You mean the one in this photo (http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y100/Skyliner25/NorthMain.jpg)? That is a Palmetto, the state tree. We don't have too many of those in the Upstate, being so close to the mountains.

Sorry. I'm still not buying the idea that suburban skylines are "small quiet cities with their own skylines." To me, that negates the original purpose of this thread, which is to highlight cities that have been often overlooked because they are smaller towns, away from the limelight of larger cities.

Most major suburbs in this country have their own skylines. So what? And those cities wouldn't exist if it weren't for the "parent city." What I'd like to continue to see are the smaller cities that no one really pays attention to.

Thanks to Little Rock, Greeneville, Eugene, Kalamazoo, Missoula, et. al.

No thanks to Tysons Corners, Crystal City, Bellevue, et. al.

Sorry. I'm still not buying the idea that suburban skylines are "small quiet cities with their own skylines." To me, that negates the original purpose of this thread, which is to highlight cities that have been often overlooked because they are smaller towns, away from the limelight of larger cities.

Most major suburbs in this country have their own skylines. So what? And those cities wouldn't exist if it weren't for the "parent city." What I'd like to continue to see are the smaller cities that no one really pays attention to.

Thanks to Little Rock, Greeneville, Eugene, Kalamazoo, Missoula, et. al.

No thanks to Tysons Corners, Crystal City, Bellevue, et. al.

I agree.

Springfield, MA - the largest of the country's many Springfields - has a population of 156,00 and a metro of over 600,000. Downtown Springfield and Downtown Hartford, CT are only 22 miles apart.

http://www.oconnells.com/upload/Monarch_Tower_and_Marriott/Monarch_Place_web.jpg

http://p.vtourist.com/2334644-Memorial_Bridge_downtown_Springfield-Springfield.jpg

all photos from the internet


San Angelo Texas:

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k40/toddguy/citySan-Angelo_23.jpg

Rockford Illinois:

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k40/toddguy/cityrockDowntown20riverfront.jpg

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k40/toddguy/cityrockdf.jpg

Sioux City Iowa:

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k40/toddguy/citysioux-city2.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k40/toddguy/citysiouxskyline20from20nebraska207.jpg

Ogden Utah:

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k40/toddguy/cityogden-ut.jpg

Fort Collins Colorado:

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k40/toddguy/cityfcLongs_Peak_Fort_Collins_small.jpg


Bismarck North Dakota:

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k40/toddguy/citybisvfiles600.jpg

Casper Wyoming:

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k40/toddguy/citycaopsper.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k40/toddguy/citycasper21571811.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k40/toddguy/citycaspervfiles14134.jpg

Laughlin Nevada:

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k40/toddguy/citylautghe.jpg

Thanks Todd, for that first pic of Sioux City. Exactly the vie from the place my sis just built up there! Oh and that second pic of Bismark is actually Omaha, which clearly does not qualify. Other cities mentioned in this thread that don't qualify:

Naples
Bellevue
Laughlin
Springfield
Little Rock
Tyson's Corner
Clayton
Every other suburb or medium-sized town that's been thrown at us


Talking about TRUE small towns here. Here are some in the Sooner State...

Bartlesville, OK (35,000 people):

http://www.mcanawrealtors.com/uploads/53.jpg

http://community.iexplore.com/photos/journal_photos/Bartlesville-Skyline-in-the.jpg

http://www.cmgworldwide.com/historic/flw/images/photos/price.jpg
Frank Lloyd Wright's only skyscraper, the famous Price Tower

http://www.rsu.edu/bville/images/bville.jpg

http://www.paynecountyline.com/images/images2005/bvilleclear.jpg

http://www.okwu.edu/okwu/images/BartlesvilleWesleyan.jpg
Oklahoma Wesleyan University

Bartlesville actually has a booming economy. It's about 50 miles north of the Tulsa metro's edge, and it draws from the lovely Tulsa area with its 950,000 people. They add thousands of jobs there every year, and there are currently thousands of homes under construction in Bartlesville. Not because it's becoming a suburb, far from it. It's small town appeal is so universal, that Conoco-Philipps workers in Houston are desperate to switch over and leave Houston for Bartlesville. That, and with Tulsa's growing economy, there are some who don't mind a long rural commute to live in a utopian community like Bartlesville.

Muskogee:

http://www.filehive.com/files/1124/1muskogee.JPG
View from the River City Mall, an outdoor shopping mall in the heart of downtown.

http://www.filehive.com/files/1124/muskogee2.JPG

http://www.filehive.com/files/1124/1muskogee3.JPG

Muskogee is about the same size as Bartlesville, and it about the same distance from Tulsa in the opposite direction. This skyline was built with oil money, shipping money, cotton money, and banking money. Muskogee used to be a lot more prominent in the Old South days...

Perhaps you've heard the song, "Okie from Muskogee"?

Lawton:

http://www.filehive.com/files/1124/Lawton.JPG

An army town of about 95,000 that is home of the US Army's primary school (Fort Sill, home of Geronimo's tomb). It's also located on the edge of the amazingly beautiful Wichita Mountains, the world's oldest mountain range:

http://www.amerika-live.de/USA/Oklahoma/oklahoma1.jpg

http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ok/comanche/postcards/lklaw.jpg

http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ok/comanche/postcards/medblf.jpg

http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ok/comanche/postcards/fsadbl.jpg

http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ok/comanche/postcards/bevbus.jpg
(This is before some were destroyed for some really ugly high-rises)

Enid, OK (50,000 people in far NW part of the state)

http://www.enidbuzz.com/photos/downtown.jpg

http://www.enidbuzz.com/photos/downtown03.jpg
http://www.enidbuzz.com/photos/enid01.jpg
http://www.enidbuzz.com/photos/conventionhall.jpg
http://www.enidbuzz.com/photos/enidhigh03.jpg
http://www.enidbuzz.com/photos/govsprings04.jpg
http://www.enidbuzz.com/photos/mansion.jpg

Enid was built from oil money and nothing else. Later came a small air force base on the high plain.

Of course, there are a lot more great small towns hidden around Oklahoma's rolling landscape, but hey, that's the ones with skylines.

^^^Oops! removed the incorrect pic. I think Laughlin kind of qualifies..it is small, in the middle of nowhere, and does have a skyline. Given it is a resort and all, but it really is not a suburb of anything. (but if going by quiet small towns then I guess it would not qualify). Just like other resort areas like South Padre Island, Myrtle Beach, etc. are not really quiet small towns either, even if they have a number of highrises.

That Bartlesville skyline has to be the best for any town under 50,000 population.

Roanoke, VA

http://www.reis.com/images/article_images/insights_08052003_figure3.gif

http://www.hollins.edu/admissions/ugradadm/international/images/Roanoke.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d75/weill/DSCF5216.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d75/weill/DSCF7308.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d75/weill/DSCF7318.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d75/weill/fromnorth.jpg

Roanoke, Virginia. 300,000 people...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ef/Roanoke%2C_Virginia_at_night.jpg/800px-Roanoke%2C_Virginia_at_night.jpg

City lights look neat from the top of the Mill Mountain Star...

NaptownBoy, So true!

I took a vacation to Sarasota a few years ago. I had never been there before. I was pleasantly
surprised to see this skyline when I got there...


Sarasota (Florida)
Pop. 53,259

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/cfx68/Temp/sarasotapano.jpg
Yes, I think that Sarasota pretty much rules all US skylines within cities under 100k in pop.
It's downtown skyline is quite large, and then it has a significant quantity of midrises and
highrises out on the keys, like most any Florida city.




Here is a pano of downtown from almost exactly 4 years ago, meaning that the picture
misses all but the first couple of buildings that went up in the recent downtown building boom.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/8sarasota_panoramic_large.jpg

And a newer one taken from about a 90 degree angle to the one I took...
As these pictures hopefully show, DT Sarasota's skyline is not just a row
of condos along the waterfront. It is actually comprised of several clusters
of buildings which have merged into one skyline in recent years.
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f345/MK275/100_3060.jpg
Photo taken by: I-275westcoastfl

I couldn't find any picture of downtown Bradenton florida but for under 50K it has one impessive skyline. If anyone has pictures please post em.

Tropical "paradise", Mr. Jasonhouse. I think you missed the thread...

Or is it me? Are we looking for smallbergs in general, or more specifically highly nondescript towns with otherwise surprising skylines?

Why are there so many small towns with skylines in Oklahoma? Is there any city/town there over 50,000 population that does not have at least one 10-15 floor + building??? (gotta love that Price Tower in Bartlesville)

Umm, well as for as nondescript towns go, not necessarily. Depends on what the town was built around. If it grew up around a university, and not business, then chances are, not many mid-rises or any high-rises. those college towns would be Tahlequah, Durant, Ada, Stillwater, Claremore, Alva, Weatherford...

Agriculture, oil, river travel, and transportation are all big businesses.

frank loyd wright has a skyscraper/high rise in racine called the johnson wax tower. frank is from wisconsin too!

i wish to see more wisconsin cities getting vertical. Wausau and Green Bay have finally stepped up to the occasion. And racine has another highrise along the lake going up and also a 15story i think from oshkosh. how can oshkosh have a tower?! with all the big ole' air show!

Frank Lloyd Wright normally did not design high-rises. I believe he has two, with the Price Tower being the more famous, and one of his more famous buildings in general.

It's a shame that a lot of his homes have been demolished or foreclosed on in recent years.

Tropical "paradise", Mr. Jasonhouse. I think you missed the thread...

Or is it me? Are we looking for smallbergs in general, or more specifically highly nondescript towns with otherwise surprising skylines?
I'm not aware of that thread...


I thought the scale of Sarasota's skyline would be quite surprising... I live 60 miles away, and it shocked the hell out of me when I first saw it a few years ago, after not having seen it for like a decade.

I didn't notice these two in the thread yet (though I may have missed them), anyway, here's Harrisburg, PA (pop~56,000)

http://northstargallery.com/aerialphotography/aerial003web.jpg

And Scranton, PA (pop~72,000)

http://www.carlabraham.com/ScrantonPA6.jpg

Got both off the net (North Star Gallery and Carl Abraham)

If you really want to push the population/height divide, look at Ocean City, MD.

Ok, so it's a resort town, so it doesn't really count. 7,000 or so permanent residents to the hundreds of thousands in the summer.

http://www.ocean-citysales.com/images/properties/photo_Skyline%20&%20Golf.jpg

http://gallery.atbeach.com/pht/1/bay_highrise_view_1025x785_b.jpg

http://www.oceancityrealestate.org/images/ocean-header.jpg

http://www.oceancityrealestate.org/images-buildings/oc-9400-building-300.jpg

http://www.oceancityrealestate.org/images-buildings/carousel2.jpg

Gotta reply to an earlier post:

Yes, Duluth, Minnesota has GOT to be the best small city (and large one, for that matter) in the US. Surprisingly, alot to do, and just one of the most beautiful cities in the world! From the city proper, everyone has a breathtaking view, as it is built on a mountain slope. About a mile wide up the slope, and about 30 miles long, it's "bigger" looking than it is. For cheap thirills, at night I used to drive across to Superior, turn around, then drive back, and marvel at the city lights just sprawling as far as you could see! COLD as hell, I left in July, where it was 73 degrees downtown, and still unmelted icebergs in Lake Superior!

Your thinking of June, all of the lakes ice has broken up by July. Although I haven't been there in summer, West Bay is pretty big so it could have some remnants in it, but I doubt it lasts until July. That latests we see lake ice is early June, and even then it isn't much. :P

Roanoke, Virginia. 300,000 people...

City lights look neat from the top of the Mill Mountain Star...

City population is under 100,000

and yes, they do!

Not the best pics, but that's because they're mine :nuts:

Easton, PA

http://suprfile.com/src/1/1ainz8h/easpa15.jpg


Pottsville, PA

http://suprfile.com/src/1/19lqsei/potpa24.jpg


Danville, VA

http://suprfile.com/src/1/j8x4ob/danv03.jpg


Fairmont, WV

http://suprfile.com/src/1/dnqs36/fmwv13.jpg

:)

Your thinking of June, all of the lakes ice has broken up by July. Although I haven't been there in summer, West Bay is pretty big so it could have some remnants in it, but I doubt it lasts until July. That latests we see lake ice is early June, and even then it isn't much. :P

Sheesh! I live in Minneapolis and yet THAT^ gives me the shivers! I've plunged into Lake Superior in July and nearly got hypothermia. But it's true, Duluth is beautiful! And the lake is much more like an inland sea.

Superior is warmest around this time of year. It's so big, it takes forever to warm up and cool down.

It's at a nice and toasty 44°F! :D

Anybody have some pics of Clayton, Mo.? It's a town of about 18,000.
It would defenitely qualify.

No, it wouldn't, for obvious reasons. It's in the middle of Saint Louis. Nondescript? Clayton? I think not.

^Exactly.

Here's a couple of more pics (from the net) of cities around 60,000.

Lynchburg, VA

http://www.region2000.org/edc/images/lynchburg.jpg


Charleston, WV

http://www.wvlightning.com/asp/largesize/wv-82803c.jpg

:)

Harrisburg looks great, really impressive for its size. Looks dense too.

I'd consider Harrisburg, Charleston is pushing it a little... Harrisburg IS impressive, I'm just not floored by Charleston the times I've been in town. Don't get me wrong, GREAT city.

Lynchburg... never been, looks impressive for however big it must be. Wasn't there a GI from there that they rescued in Iraq a few years?

SRG, you may have you own opinion, but this thread is for the posting of any overlooked skylines in smallish/smaller cities. Are you going to sit here and judge every city that everyone posts? Shouldn't you be leaving that to the original poster to decide?

Anyway,

Some of Michigan have already been posted, but many were poor. Some may be repeats, but I'll post better versions.

Lansing, MI - City Pop: 119,000, Urban Area Pop: 300,000, Metro Pop: 455,000 (all my photos except the last)

http://home.comcast.net/~lmontg/wsb/media/1413483/site1022.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/14/92068839_d5efa2fdf2_b.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/118/300368239_88e6042594_o.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/106/300368238_472269afbc_o.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/110/300368236_2c5e6a064c_b.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/86/234727153_684430acf8_b.jpg
Clayton Busbey - http://www.flickr.com/photos/claytonbusbey/

Jackson, MI - City: 36,316, Metro: 163,629

http://static.flickr.com/75/214532956_4854d6a152_o.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/77/214532961_33cb1f8363_o.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/92/214532949_506bcef861_o.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/91/214549335_c9bfe68486_o.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/91/214549334_1fe0c35b69_o.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/49/218183638_52df2be0fc_b.jpg
ifmuth - http://www.flickr.com/photos/70205638@N00/

Kalamazoo, MI - City: 77,145, Urban Area: 187,961, Metro: 319,348

http://static.flickr.com/73/172274150_89fb97c19b_b.jpg
Paladin27 - http://www.flickr.com/photos/paladin27/

http://static.flickr.com/44/150336756_30b5739fef_b.jpg
Paladin27 - http://www.flickr.com/photos/paladin27/

Ann Arbor, MI - City: 114,024, Urban Area: 283,904, Metro: 341,847

http://static.flickr.com/92/259800413_1e875bc13f_b.jpg
cmu chem prof - http://www.flickr.com/photos/63447395@N00/

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5e/Annarborskyline.JPG/800px-Annarborskyline.JPG
Gsgeorge - http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=25769318&size=l

http://static.flickr.com/22/25769318_335b4b945a_b.jpg
gsgeorge - http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=25769318&size=l

http://static.flickr.com/50/131157700_6a79e4ec3f_b.jpg
ifmuth - http://www.flickr.com/photos/70205638@N00/

http://static.flickr.com/14/94369782_3a9116ff67_b.jpg
Patrick Austin - http://www.flickr.com/photos/paanta/

http://static.flickr.com/91/234347646_ac249deade_b.jpg
DA2Brian - http://www.flickr.com/photos/67873381@N00/

Royal Oak, MI - City: 60,062, Metro (Detroit): 4,488,335

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/ea/Downtown_Royal_Oak.jpg/800px-Downtown_Royal_Oak.jpg
stanthejeep - November 4, 2006

Lmichigan: Thanks for those extremely rare photos of Jackson, Michigan

Downtown Jackson is really impressive looking for a city under 40,000.
That is a TRUE example of a small "quiet" city, with an awesome skyline.
That skyline put cities over 100,000 to shame, like: Evansville and South Bend, Indiana

Those photos of Ann Arbor is also rare. Very dense, ubran and compact looking. I like how that city looks on the map too. (it has it's own little highway "loop" around it)

Well, you must not forget that many of these city's skylines were built when they were considerably larger with Jackson being one of them. BTW, Lansing also has a beltway around it.

SRG, you may have you own opinion, but this thread is for the posting of any overlooked skylines in smallish/smaller cities. Are you going to sit here and judge every city that everyone posts? Shouldn't you be leaving that to the original poster to decide?


So are you going to sit here and argue with me for having an opinion?

Instead why don't you take a side or shut up? I'm sure somehow you could word a post that would prove just how nondescript and surprising Clayton, Missouri's skyline is.

I mean heck, Clayton... Sandy Springs... Bellevue... what's the differance? Just satelite skylines on the peripheral of major urban centers, before you get to the bulk of the suburbs.

People posting up Naples and Bellevue really doesn't bode well for your thought of enlightening the board on nice skylines in the middle of nowhere in Michigan, either. That's what this thread is for.

And I have no idea what you just said about the original poster in this thread being the only one with the right to judge...

:nuts:

Davenport, Iowa
http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v335/Dodger6501/Downtown%20Davenport/downdav1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/Dodger6500/blog/Skybridge89-05.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/Dodger6500/blog/realdowntown.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v335/Dodger6501/Downtown%20Davenport/maindav.jpg

^Looking good. There's some nice density.

Nice Davenport pictures!

This was one of the most enjoyable threads I've ever read on this site!

Selfishly, it made me envy some of these small-mid sized cities with apparently nice, compact, dense urban cores. Why? Because my city (Green Bay) is really just part of a chain of cities (Fox Cities) that are pretty much continuously low-density urban or suburban along the Fox River in Wisconsin.

The population of the Fox Cities all together is approaching 3/4 million, but its all stretched and sprawled along a narrow corridor about 50 miles long but only 5-8 miles wide. There are a few nice urban centers but no skylines to speak of. There are a few vibrant places around here, but most of the time Green Bay, at least, is characterized as "sleepy" or some other adjective of the same effect. We're only starting to rediscover our downtowns, well behind most of the country. Don't get me wrong, though: I love living here, overall it's great, especially with families. We do have some nice big-city amenities. The only thing we're lacking, in my opinion, is a cool downtown.

Davenport surprised me, as does most of Iowa Cities. Looks nice

Does anyone have shots of the Bentonville AR area? I've heard it's got tons of new development recently due to Walmart suppliers building centers there to be close to the Walmart headquarters?
That might all be low rise though...

Oxnard (California)
Pop. 180,872
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/cfx68/Temp/oxnard.jpg

i was going to suggest this, but those are really the only two buildings over 4 or 5 stories, except for that buildings across the 101 on the north side by the river

Neighboring Ventura has a much more dense downtown area (it's squeezed in between hills, ocean, and river) but it doesn't have any buildings that are at all tall.

Other cities mentioned in this thread that don't qualify:

Naples
Bellevue
Laughlin
Springfield
Little Rock
Tyson's Corner
Clayton
Every other suburb or medium-sized town that's been thrown at us

Springfield MA should count, unless you are saying it's too big in population - it's not a suburb of any other city, and it's not that well known, I don't think.

Are you discounting Laughlin NV because most of its workforce lives in Bullhead City, AZ? Or because it's a tourist destination, not a city built by oil, mining, port traffic, trade, insurance, banking, etc. (any "real" source of money)

edit: yes, as Lmichigan said below, Laughlin is almost 100 miles away from Las Vegas - it's definitely not a suburb of that city, if it is a suburb at all.

I think he personally dismissed Laughlin because he believes it to be a suburb of Las Vegas (which it is not). Regardless, it shouldn't matter to any of us.

Here is the "Buckeye State" version of Springfield, near Dayton


Springfield (Ohio)
Pop. 64,483


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/cfx68/Miscellaneous/springfield-ohio.jpg

http://urbanohio.com/SWOhio/Springfield/Downtown/skyline1.JPG

this thread shows one of the things I love most about the US , so many choices of Nice sized places to live .

Allentown, PA

http://www.city-data.com/cpicc/cfiles10430.jpg

Erie, PA

http://www.mrfs.net/trips/2000/Erie/Reunion/erie_downtown.jpg

From my Skyline Archive of all 50 states. Here are some in Washignton State people don't think of.
Washington

http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/2306/ajmbellevuecg1.jpg
Bellevue.
1990: 95,214
2006: 117,100
http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/6505/ajmbellinghampp6.jpg
Bellingham.
1990: 52,179
2006: 73,043
http://img475.imageshack.us/img475/1397/ajmcentralareavr6.jpg
Central Area. (Seperate skyline from Seattle)
1990: Estimate of 24,000
2006: 26,000
http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/6729/ajmeverettbt2.jpg
Everett.
1990: 70,937
2006: 101,100
http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/5204/ajmolympiazb5.jpg
Olympia.
1990: 33,729
2006: 43,982
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/1615/ajmspokanehv3.jpg
Spokane.
1990: 177,165
2006: 201,600
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/884/ajmtacomavs9.jpg
Tacoma.
1990: 176,670
2006: 203,204
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/6037/ajmuniversitydistrictuc9.jpg
University District. (Seperate skyline from Seattle)
1990: 35,000
2006: 39,250
http://img332.imageshack.us/img332/8149/ajmvancouverzw3.jpg
Vancouver.
1990: 62,065
2006: 156,599
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/4283/ajmyakimaai1.jpg
Yakima.
1990: 58,427
2006: 81,710

Zanesville (Ohio)
Pop. 25,277

http://www.wclt.com/news/photos/ACF8A48.jpg




Monroe (Louisiana)
Pop. 52,163

http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/722/downtown6co.jpg

Here's some pics of Lynchburg, VA (pop ~ 70,000)

http://suprfile.com/src/1/jazzke/LYVA02.jpg

http://suprfile.com/src/1/jbzbhl/LYVA16.jpg

http://suprfile.com/src/1/jbxfph/LYVA15.jpg

http://suprfile.com/src/1/jb7azc/LYVA05.jpg

http://suprfile.com/src/1/jb45mc/LYVA04.jpg

:)

Would it be fair to say that the Lynchburg skyline is set up along one street? It looks like it may sit in a tiny valley.

^ It actually has about 4 main streets running parallel to the river which runs next to downtown. The CBD climbs up a rather steep hill from the river. Kind of gives the city a different look. Here's an elevator between one of the main streets to the next near the top of the hill:

http://suprfile.com/src/1/jbu2v0/LYVA14.jpg


Thought I'd throw another small town skyline into the fray. Here's a so-so pic of Bluefield, WV (pop~ 12,000)

http://suprfile.com/src/1/djjmhi/bluwv12.jpg

:)

Lmichigan, you're relentless badgering is getting tiresome in almost every thread I enter. I enter one I haven't been in for a long time, and to my surprise, you've been badgering me there without me even knowing it. Seriously, what's the deal?

I am aware that Laughlin is not a suburb, and I never said it was. But it is not a QUIET city. I took this thread very literally in being about QUIET cities with neat skylines. I'm not sure how many people are in the Davenport metro, but the Quad Cities are a lot more populous than most people like the believe. Allentown has a lot more people in its metro than people would imagine, too.

There is a difference between "Cities with skylines you've never seen before, that would blow you away" and "QUIET cities with an interesting skyline".

Plain as day. In my mind, Bellevue is just another Seattle skyline, and Clayton is just an extension of the St. Louis skyline, and Laughlin, NV is a tourist city, anything BUT a QUIET and nondescript city. Get it, Lmichigan?


Bluefield looks nice. Only 12,000 good folks? Not half bad... and Lynchburg, VA qualifies in my mind barring some outrageous MSA statistics I haven't seen yet.

Here's Joplin, MO pop 45,000.....found these on the internet

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/9062/joplin3md9.th.jpg (http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=joplin3md9.jpg)

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/2994/joplin3me6.th.jpg (http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=joplin3me6.jpg)

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/1086/joplin1vv6.th.jpg (http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=joplin1vv6.jpg)

hope the picks show up

Hey, thanks for the pics. Don't think I've ever seen Joplin before.

Bluefield looks nice. Only 12,000 good folks? Not half bad... and Lynchburg, VA qualifies in my mind barring some outrageous MSA statistics I haven't seen yet.

Bluefield - At its peak it was over 20,000, and that is when most of the downtown was built. But that was many years ago, and there's a lot of empty bldgs downtown now. I can post some more pics if you like.

Lynchburg - I think the population has slipped to about 66,000 by now, and the metro is about 200,000. kind of isloated for an east coast city. Closest big city is Richmond at over 100 miles.

Another Lynchburg pic:

http://www.vdh.virginia.gov/ppova/picts/Lynchburg%20skyline.JPG
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/2211/lynchburg20skylinehy0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Ketchikan, AK population 8,044 (2004)

www.cgd.ucar.edu/~stevens/alaska2002/index.html
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/5110/ketchikanaf0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Wikipedia, 2002
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/1162/downtownketchikanalaskafi0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Those last two, while nice and interesting to see, hardly count as skylines in the conventional sense of the word don't you think?

^^

The town has a few much larger buildings outside of the main area.

City-Data.com

http://www.city-data.com/cpicc/cfiles6423.jpg

Then there's Whittier, AK, which is actually nothing BUT skyline. Everyone in town lives in the one large apartment building.

http://thebeav.topcities.com/Alaska/whittier.jpg

lol that SRG is defensive i like that lansing pics nice same wit duluth not far from my area. ah ha.

Fargo, ND (2006 during the annual spring flooding of the red river)
City of Fargo: 99,208
City of Moorhead: 38,346
City of West Fargo: 24,184
Urban Area Population: 168,015
http://xs221.xs.to/xs221/07462/DTFargoMinorFlood2006.jpg

All credit goes to SmileyBoy over at Skyscraper Pages.
(Re-hosted so as not to use up his bandwidth)

here's my hometown of South Bend (Pop. 107,789)
(not mine)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Downtown_South_Bend_Indiana_02.jpg/800px-Downtown_South_Bend_Indiana_02.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/glennccc@sbcglobal.net/xsbend01.jpg
http://www.realst8.com/blog/wp-content/themes/Cutline%201.1/images/header_1.jpg

Anderson, Indiana
population 59,000. 30 miles from downtown Indianapolis. The downtown is located along the White River and the City is home to Anderson University, the International Church of God is headquartered there, and Hoosier Park (racino).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/cwilson758/Anderson/Skyline.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/cwilson758/Anderson/TowerApts3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/cwilson758/Anderson/ONB.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/cwilson758/Anderson/UMC.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/cwilson758/Anderson/TownCenter1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/cwilson758/Anderson/Paramount.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/cwilson758/Anderson/CCC.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/cwilson758/Anderson/ABC.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/cwilson758/Anderson/CityHall.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/cwilson758/Anderson/Skyline2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/cwilson758/Anderson/Skyline1.jpg

Des Moines, Iowa

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/Candrson/skyline20ne.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/Candrson/july04desmoinesskylineindianolaave.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/Candrson/30.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/Candrson/1.jpg

Iowa City

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/Candrson/IowaCityMay06074.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/Candrson/IowaCityMay06068.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/Candrson/IowaCityMay06089.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/Candrson/IowaCityMay06062.jpg

Cedar Rapids, Iowa

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/Candrson/me%202/cr.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/Candrson/me%202/cr1.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/Candrson/me%202/cr2.jpg


Dubuque, Iowa

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/Candrson/me%202/dub.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/Candrson/me%202/dub1.jpg

Fort Dodge, Iowa

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/Candrson/me%202/fd.jpg

Davenport, Iowa

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/Candrson/me%202/dav.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/Candrson/me%202/dav1.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/Candrson/me%202/dav2.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/Candrson/me%202/dav3.jpg

Sorry, but Des Moines is not a "quiet small city."

right, just running the Iowa bracket. There are plenty of other cities with a metro of 500,000 that have been posted.

Figured if we were sticking in inner suburbs of Chicago and St. Louis that obviously aren't "quiet small cities", i'd just post the whole Iowa situation.

those iowa towns look awesome. not what i would have expected, except for des moines ive been through there

whoa, thought this was a new thread, threw me for a loop

http://imageshack.us/f/158/view203428rs.jpg/

http://imageshack.us/f/158/view203428rs.jpg


New around here? :lol:

Nice photos....thanks, just passing by.:)

Youngstown OH
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f363/IrishCon/Youngstown006.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f363/IrishCon/Youngstown038.jpg


Gatlinburg TN
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f363/IrishCon/SmokeyMountainsNewYears2010013.jpg

I like this thread...good stuff!

Peoria Il
http://www.startillinoisbusiness.com/wp-content/uploads/peoria-skyline-night-flickr-wizard298.jpg

I really like all these secluded hillside towns

Eureka Springs, Arkansas
pop: 2,073

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/Duckwings/Eurekaandsuch_220.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/Duckwings/eur-spr-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/Duckwings/5624088053_8b1fc1d819.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/Duckwings/800px-Eurekaandsuch_291.jpg

Home to the famous Crescent Hotel, one of the most haunted hotels in America.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/Duckwings/EurekaSpringsCrescentHotelSign-500.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/Duckwings/crescent-closeup.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/Duckwings/74321_50_b.jpg

Also, home to the beautiful and famous Thorncrown Chapel and one of the largest Jesus statues in the world.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/Duckwings/167648_l.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/Duckwings/800px-09-02-06-ThorncrownChapel1.jpg

Christ of the Ozarks
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/Duckwings/ozarks-jesus.jpg

Springfield, MO
http://i50.tinypic.com/5y7wgl.jpg
http://i45.tinypic.com/34eooxt.jpg
http://i47.tinypic.com/2aifu6b.jpg

Christ of the Ozarks
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/Duckwings/ozarks-jesus.jpg

Hah, oh my god. All this statue needs is a couple of bolts poking out of its head, and it's Franken-Jesus!

^^ it's quite ugly. I don't know why the Arkansas Tourism Board likes to tout this hideous thing when NW Arkansas has soooooo much more to offer

Saginaw MI

http://media.mlive.com/saginawnews/photo/-c28b44090697bf7c.JPG
http://3on3hoops.com/blog/tag/gus-macker-3-on-3-basketball/

What a cool thread! I've had a good time perusing through the pages.....some awesome little towns out there. Some could even give the big boys a run for their money lol.

One that SUPER impressed me was Harrisburg, PA...I know, I know, it's the capitol of a large state. However, with a population of 49,000, I still find this quite impressive for rural Pennsylvania. I remember going across the interstate bridge and looking down to my right and seeing Harrisburg. Totally blew me away!

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2367/2199117894_8fe559181d_b.jpg
http://farm1.staticflickr.com/25/62033689_118a1b6568_z.jpg?zz=1
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3083/2297464019_041fc21633_b.jpg

Saginaw MI

http://media.mlive.com/saginawnews/photo/-c28b44090697bf7c.JPG
http://3on3hoops.com/blog/tag/gus-macker-3-on-3-basketball/

This is one sad, sad town. I have a friend from a small place near here called Zilwaukee, and Saginaw has seen better days. It even was worse than Flint.

What a cool thread! I've had a good time perusing through the pages.....some awesome little towns out there. Some could even give the big boys a run for their money lol.

One that SUPER impressed me was Harrisburg, PA...I know, I know, it's the capitol of a large state. However, with a population of 49,000, I still find this quite impressive for rural Pennsylvania. I remember going across the interstate bridge and looking down to my right and seeing Harrisburg. Totally blew me away!



Have you ever been to downtown Harrisburg? That is even more impressive than going by on a freeway. The density and character downtown was awesome! The capital is spectacular. Harrisburg has a lot to offer, as do other south central Pennsylvania cities.

Have you ever been to downtown Harrisburg? That is even more impressive than going by on a freeway. The density and character downtown was awesome! The capital is spectacular. Harrisburg has a lot to offer, as do other south central Pennsylvania cities.

I wouldn't mind making the drive to chill there for a bit. Plus the drive through central/western Pennsylvania is well worth it. Bucolic views all along the way, little traffic...reminds me of home in Southwest Virginia.

This is one sad, sad town. I have a friend from a small place near here called Zilwaukee, and Saginaw has seen better days. It even was worse than Flint.

Saginaw isn't that bad. There are plenty of economically depressed towns across the U.S. that are just as bad, and plenty that are worse. The good thing about Saginaw is that it seems to be doing a better job of keeping its crime under control.

For example, in 2010 Saginaw saw just 4 murders. That year, the murder rate in Saginaw was lower than most of Michigan's other older industrial cities:

Flint: 53 murders (51.7 per 100,000)
Detroit: 310 murders (43.4 per 100,000)
Jackson: 5 murders (14.9 per 100,000)
Kalamazoo: 9 murders (12.1 per 100,000)
Battle Creek: 5 murders (9.6 per 100,000)
Lansing: 10 murders (8.7 per 100,000)
Saginaw: 4 murders (7.8 per 100,000)
Grand Rapids: 9 murders (4.8 per 100,000)

Compared to major cities that aren't generally known for murders:
Cincinnati: 68 murders (22.9 per 100,000)
Atlanta: 93 murders (22.1 per 100,000)
Pittsburgh: 55 murders (18.0 per 100,000)
Miami: 68 murders (17.0 per 100,000)
Milwaukee: 94 murders (15.8 per 100,000)
Boston: 73 murders (11.8 per 100,000)
Minneapolis: 37 murders (9.7 per 100,000)
San Francisco: 48 murders (6.0 per 100,000)
Austin: 38 murders (4.8 per 100,000)
Denver: 22 murders (3.7 per 100,000)
Seattle: 19 murders (3.1 per 100,000)

While 2010 was abnormally low, the last few years haven't been as bad as they were in years past.

Also, the unemployment rate in the region is lower than might be expected. The average unemployment rate for the last 6 months is 8.8%, compared to 8.5% for the U.S. during the same period.

Another one of Roanoke! 97,000
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Saginaw isn't that bad. There are plenty of economically depressed towns across the U.S. that are just as bad, and plenty that are worse. The good thing about Saginaw is that it seems to be doing a better job of keeping its crime under control.

For example, in 2010 Saginaw saw just 4 murders. That year, the murder rate in Saginaw was lower than most of Michigan's other older industrial cities:

Flint: 53 murders (51.7 per 100,000)
Detroit: 310 murders (43.4 per 100,000)
Jackson: 5 murders (14.9 per 100,000)
Kalamazoo: 9 murders (12.1 per 100,000)
Battle Creek: 5 murders (9.6 per 100,000)
Lansing: 10 murders (8.7 per 100,000)
Saginaw: 4 murders (7.8 per 100,000)
Grand Rapids: 9 murders (4.8 per 100,000)

Compared to major cities that aren't generally known for murders:
Cincinnati: 68 murders (22.9 per 100,000)
Atlanta: 93 murders (22.1 per 100,000)
Pittsburgh: 55 murders (18.0 per 100,000)
Miami: 68 murders (17.0 per 100,000)
Milwaukee: 94 murders (15.8 per 100,000)
Boston: 73 murders (11.8 per 100,000)
Minneapolis: 37 murders (9.7 per 100,000)
San Francisco: 48 murders (6.0 per 100,000)
Austin: 38 murders (4.8 per 100,000)
Denver: 22 murders (3.7 per 100,000)
Seattle: 19 murders (3.1 per 100,000)

While 2010 was abnormally low, the last few years haven't been as bad as they were in years past.

Also, the unemployment rate in the region is lower than might be expected. The average unemployment rate for the last 6 months is 8.8%, compared to 8.5% for the U.S. during the same period.

Ok, I never once mentioned murders. Flint is a wreck in that instance though. I was just getting at how economically depressed Saginaw and the whole "thumb" is. Saginaw clearly has lost a lot downtown, and I was amazed by that when I was there. 4 murders or not, it is still depressing to look at and economically. St. Louis and New Orleans are known for murders, but they have some very attractive areas. Flint is known for murders, but I found a few pockets of something worth while downtown. I really don't follow unemployment rates, especially when everything has been dropping like crazy because people are losing unemployment benefits, labor forces are shrinking, etc which cause the unemployment rate to go down. Nevada, for instance, has watched its unemployment rate go down rapidly recently, but it is in bad shape, and it's labor force is declining. Discouraged workers just giving up and other factors will cause unemployment rates to decline. That is a story for another thread.

I wouldn't mind making the drive to chill there for a bit. Plus the drive through central/western Pennsylvania is well worth it. Bucolic views all along the way, little traffic...reminds me of home in Southwest Virginia.

I-77 in Virginia provides some of the best interstate views IMO. Seriously though, Harrisburg is worth a trip in itself.